Breaking: President Obama Vetoes Keystone XL Bill - Update: Right Wing Freakout Well Under Way

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Carrying through on his promise, the President has vetoed the Keystone XL bill. The right wing will now go nuts, as usual.

UPDATE at 2/24/15 1:15:45 pm by Charles Johnson

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1 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 24, 2015 1:08:31pm

Final proof of how much he hates America.

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2 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 24, 2015 1:10:05pm
3 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 24, 2015 1:10:31pm
4 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 24, 2015 1:10:42pm

From Downstairs:

Only 34 real jobs. Except for the “clean up” jobs I suppose.

Thank you, Mr. President, for doing what is right.

5 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:11:54pm

My President is a good man. Good man, I say.

Thank you, sir!

6 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 1:13:26pm

re: #2 The Mother Of All Pies

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So, we SHOULDN’T let anyone vote?

7 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 1:13:34pm

Here we go.

8 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 24, 2015 1:14:24pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

So, we SHOULDN’T let anyone vote Democratic

9 jaunte  Feb 24, 2015 1:14:25pm

TUBULAR TYRANNY!!

10 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 24, 2015 1:14:26pm
11 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 1:15:10pm
12 b_sharp  Feb 24, 2015 1:15:50pm

As a Canadian I’m sad that Obama took steps that will reduce the amount of money flowing into my province from China, but as a human and a grandfather worried about how my grandkids will do on land affected by CC, I’m quite happy the US president is obviously more in tune with science than my own numbnut PM Harper is.

13 Kragar  Feb 24, 2015 1:16:20pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

14 Kragar  Feb 24, 2015 1:17:33pm
15 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:19:10pm

Aaaand, the US economy is going straight to hell in a hand basket. Heh.

US stocks close higher on Yellen testimony; S&P, Dow set new marks - @CNBC
read more on cnbc.com

16 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 1:19:14pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Here we go.

hurr hurr public opinion should dictate every vote except for gunz control.

Also, I don’t think most Americans give a sht about the pipeline.

17 lawhawk  Feb 24, 2015 1:19:23pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Most Americans are ambivalent about the pipeline. They either oppose or don’t know. And yeah, I know that proponents could turn around and claim the same numbers show overwhelming support or indifference, but the indifference is key.

Once people know what this is about, their support drops.

The project doesn’t create more than a handful of permanent jobs. It doesn’t stimulate the US economy (the oil flows already via other pipelines and via rail, and the refineries are already taking in this tar sands oil). But the pipeline isn’t likely to be built while oil prices are at $60, when a breakeven is far higher. Energy companies are slowing down investments in infrastructure, including new wells and pipelines because oil prices simply don’t support them.

So, it’s not like this pipeline is being built starting tomorrow had Obama signed it into law. And it’s not going to affect oil prices either.

But it would stimulate the pockets of energy companies that have interests in Canadian tar sands. To be sure, there’d be a handful of temp jobs created while the pipeline is built, but those are transitory and move as the pipeline gets built segment by segment.

The people living along the path will have to deal with whatever pipeline failures come next - as they invariably do.

18 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 1:20:22pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Here we go.

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It’s funny. Whenever a Judge rules a popular GOP bill or ballot initiative unconstitutional, they cry “Defying the Will-O’-The-People!!”

When a judge rules a popular Dem bill or ballot initiative unconstitutional, they cry, “We’re a Republic, not a Democracy!!”

19 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 1:20:39pm

re: #10 The Mother Of All Pies

Troubled heart is very troubled.

20 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:20:48pm

No school tomorrow, I’ll bet…

Going north, is it?

21 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 1:21:32pm

re: #10 The Mother Of All Pies

They don’t have the votes to override the veto - it’s going to stand.

22 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 1:22:08pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Exactly. Obama should have to look every mother who needs healthcare coverage for her…wait, what?

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23 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2015 1:22:58pm

re: #20 Justanotherhuman

No school tomorrow, I’ll bet…

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Going north, is it?

Last time the kids were in school here in my eastern Kentucky county was February 13.

24 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 1:23:09pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Should the GOP have to look everyone in the eye whose healthcare they want to eliminate?

25 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:23:11pm

Suck it up, TransCanada…I mean, where are you going to put it?

TransCanada says it ‘remains fully committed to Keystone’ despite President Obama’s veto of legislation supporting project - @TransCanada
read more on keystone-xl.com

26 Kragar  Feb 24, 2015 1:23:46pm
27 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 1:23:47pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

Last time the kids were in school here in my eastern Kentucky county was February 13.

No shit? Wow. Snow that bad there?

28 Zamb  Feb 24, 2015 1:23:48pm

So any guesses as to the number of bills they will now attach this to?

29 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 24, 2015 1:24:08pm

re: #25 Justanotherhuman

Suck it up, TransCanada…I mean, where are you going to put it?

TransCanada says it ‘remains fully committed to Keystone’ despite President Obama’s veto of legislation supporting project - @TransCanada
read more on keystone-xl.com

Don’t they already have a pipeline to the port in Vancouver?

30 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:24:35pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

Last time the kids were in school here in my eastern Kentucky county was February 13.

At this rate, it may be March 13 before they return.

31 Kragar  Feb 24, 2015 1:25:37pm
32 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 24, 2015 1:25:52pm

To everything - fear, fear, fear
There is a season - fear, fear, fear.
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33 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:27:03pm

Oh, just. shut. up. You can’t do anything.

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, calls President Obama’s veto of Keystone bill ‘a national embarrassment,’ and ‘there are workers and unions who have spent years counting on the 42,000 jobs this project will support’; says this is not end of effort to get pipeline build - statement
end of alert

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Republican Governors Association ‘sorely disappointed by President Obama’s decision to veto the Keystone XL pipeline legislation,’ Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin says; calls project bipartisan and would create jobs
end of alert

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Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., says the Senate will attempt to override Obama’s veto of the KeystoneXL pipeline bill no later than March 3 - @frankthorpNBC
see original on twitter.com

34 Tigger2  Feb 24, 2015 1:29:10pm

re: #33 Justanotherhuman

Oh, just. shut. up. You can’t do anything.

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, calls President Obama’s veto of Keystone bill ‘a national embarrassment,’ and ‘there are workers and unions who have spent years counting on the 42,000 jobs this project will support’; says this is not end of effort to get pipeline build - statement
end of alert

43m
Republican Governors Association ‘sorely disappointed by President Obama’s decision to veto the Keystone XL pipeline legislation,’ Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin says; calls project bipartisan and would create jobs
end of alert

46m
Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., says the Senate will attempt to override Obama’s veto of the KeystoneXL pipeline bill no later than March 3 - @frankthorpNBC
see original on twitter.com

The Republican Party has turned into noting but a bunch of crybabies.

35 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2015 1:29:47pm

re: #27 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

No shit? Wow. Snow that bad there?

Yep, over a foot of snow, then rain and sleet a few days ago turned it all into an insanely dense icepack. Plus we’ve had sub-zero temps and windchills. Most of our roads are narrow, gravel or doubtful dirt, and many roads hug steep ravines without guardrails.
We just had our Level 2 road emergency lifted today.

ETA: My own road is still a complete piece of ice-covered crap. Even though I have a 4WD vehicle, I’m not going to attempt going anywhere for the foreseeable future..

36 b_sharp  Feb 24, 2015 1:29:53pm

re: #25 Justanotherhuman

Suck it up, TransCanada…I mean, where are you going to put it?

TransCanada says it ‘remains fully committed to Keystone’ despite President Obama’s veto of legislation supporting project - @TransCanada
read more on keystone-xl.com

They’re also trying to get one put in from AB through BC to the BC coast.

37 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 1:31:45pm

So I hear 50 year-old Monica Bellucci has been cast in the next Bond film….

Mmmmmm …Monica Bellucci…..
38 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:33:14pm

re: #37 Blind Frog Belly White

She’s very beautiful, and says she’ll be a Bond woman, not a Bond girl.

39 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 1:33:58pm

re: #38 Justanotherhuman

She’s very beautiful, and says she’ll be a Bond woman, not a Bond girl.

Oh, yes. Oh, my, yes!

40 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 24, 2015 1:34:12pm

Heh. Would Obama be trolling the GOP if he made a statement saying that he opposed seizing private property in order to turn it over to a Canadian company to exploit as pipeline development?

41 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:35:39pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Reince has always had foot in mouth disease.

42 Iwouldprefernotto  Feb 24, 2015 1:35:40pm

re: #37 Blind Frog Belly White

So I hear 50 year-old Monica Bellucci has been cast in the next Bond film….

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I had to google image this. Glad I did. Research is important.

43 Varek Raith  Feb 24, 2015 1:35:59pm

Excellent.

44 Tigger2  Feb 24, 2015 1:36:26pm

re: #40 Feline Fearless Leader

Heh. Would Obama be trolling the GOP if he made a statement saying that he opposed seizing private property in order to turn it over to a Canadian company to exploit as pipeline development?

That should sure be part of his press conference as to why he vetoed the bill.

45 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2015 1:36:43pm

John Boehner is having a complete meltdown over the veto:

twitter.com

46 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:38:39pm

Wingnut meltdown starts in 1, 2, 3…even though it is in the UK, not far from a reality in this country and elsewhere.

House of Lords approves law allowing 3-parent babies to prevent inherited mitochondrial diseases - @Telegraph
read more on telegraph.co.uk

47 Tigger2  Feb 24, 2015 1:40:47pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Boehner is having a complete meltdown over the veto:

twitter.com

Good. lol

I enjoy seeing the Obstructionist Party getting their ass handed back to them lately.

48 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 1:40:54pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Boehner is having a complete meltdown over the veto:

twitter.com

Oh, Boo-Frakkin’-Hoo.

Cry Me A River

49 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:41:47pm

Former Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland to run for US Senate, state Democratic Party chairman says - @DispatchAlerts
read more on dispatch.com

Will challenge Rob Portman.

50 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 24, 2015 1:42:20pm

And John O’Orange got a month’s notice that this was going to happen.
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51 EPR-radar  Feb 24, 2015 1:43:08pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Boehner is having a complete meltdown over the veto:

twitter.com

I find that I can bear the misfortunes of a worthless leader of a worthless political party with great fortitude.

52 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:43:14pm

re: #48 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, Boo-Frakkin’-Hoo.

Cry Me A River

Tears of impotent rage…

53 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2015 1:45:04pm

I really hope these fuckers shut down DHS. The backlash will be harsh.

54 Dave In Austin  Feb 24, 2015 1:45:48pm

re: #52 Justanotherhuman

Tears of impotent rage…

I’ll take a double please!!

55 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 1:49:35pm

Apparently we’ve all be misinterpreting it all along. The Republicans pushing to establish Christianity as the national religion are just pushing back against secular theocracy.

No really, I’m still scratching my head on this one.

56 Iwouldprefernotto  Feb 24, 2015 1:49:42pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope these fuckers shut down DHS. The backlash will be harsh.

They are already backing down on the shutdown. They will have a few symbolic votes and then vote for a clean bill. The Democrats have a mini backbone,

57 teleskiguy  Feb 24, 2015 1:50:45pm

Gawd damm these United States conservatives are wholly divorced from reality.

We truly are witnessing Idiocracy IRL. The currency will look like this in 500 years.

58 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:51:13pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

Do people realize that DHS grants funds for local preparedness? That funding would be stopped, also. $354,644,123 was available in fiscal 2013.

fema.gov

59 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:52:34pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Gawd damm these United States conservatives are wholly divorced from reality.

We truly are witnessing Idiocracy IRL. The currency will look like this in 500 years.

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Naw, we’ll be back to hanging from trees…

60 Tigger2  Feb 24, 2015 1:52:34pm

re: #56 Iwouldprefernotto

They are already backing down on the shutdown. They will have a few symbolic votes and then vote for a clean bill. The Democrats have a mini backbone,

If the Democrats would grow a thick spine the Republicans would cave a lot more.

61 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:53:28pm

re: #60 Tigger2

Lessons can be learned today about spine from the guy in the WH.

62 Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2015 1:54:18pm

re: #54 Dave In Austin

I’ll take a double please!!

Comin’ right up:

63 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2015 1:55:04pm
64 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 24, 2015 1:55:21pm

re: #55 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Apparently we’ve all be misinterpreting it all along. The Republicans pushing to establish Christianity as the national religion are just pushing back against secular theocracy.

No really, I’m still scratching my head on this one.

Yeah, I’m confused, too. I thought it was pushing back against creeping Shariah…

65 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:56:52pm

Wow, talk about the press prejudicing a jury…

Both sides in Eddie Ray Routh ‘American Sniper’ trial close testimony; judge says closing arguments and deliberation begin today - @CBS11Joel
see original on twitter.com

66 teleskiguy  Feb 24, 2015 1:57:38pm

From Terry Gilliam’s Facebook page.

67 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 24, 2015 1:58:29pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Gawd damm these United States conservatives are wholly divorced from reality.

We truly are witnessing Idiocracy IRL. The currency will look like this in 500 years.

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With Ted Nugent on the bill I assume - sticking his tongue out and holding a gun.
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68 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 1:59:31pm

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yeah, I’m confused, too. I thought it was pushing back against creeping Shariah…

Have we ever had a non-Christian presidential candidate? I know we’ve never had a non-Christian president. But oh yeah, besides that, Christianity is terribly disadvantaged in presidential politics.

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69 jaunte  Feb 24, 2015 2:01:28pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Boehner is having a complete meltdown over the veto:

twitter.com

He;s getting some angry calls from money men.

70 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 2:02:16pm

re: #68 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Have we ever had a non-Christian presidential candidate? I know we’ve never had a non-Christian president. But oh yeah, besides that, Christianity is terribly disadvantaged in presidential politics.

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Apparently it is an unimportant question. It doesn’t matter that the majority of Republicans want to make Christianity the national religion, because it’s a silly issue and a single question on a poll 18 months out from the presidential election. We’re all worrying over nothing!

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71 Tigger2  Feb 24, 2015 2:02:21pm

OH NOOOs two of our churches in my town had to cancel their annual fish frys they said it was to cold to cook outside. I don’t know what they’re talking about it was only -16 this morning.////

72 Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2015 2:02:33pm

re: #69 jaunte

He;s getting some angry calls from money men.

“You promised us, John! You said this was a done deal!!!”

73 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 2:02:38pm

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yeah, I’m confused, too. I thought it was pushing back against creeping Shariah…

Creeping secular theocracy includes creeping Shariah, and all manner of liberalisms from atheists to mainline Protestants to cafeteria Catholics, the Juice, fifth columnist leftists in their coast enclaves, academics and people who read too many books.

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2015 2:03:41pm

re: #70 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Apparently it is an unimportant question. It doesn’t matter that the majority of Republicans want to make Christianity the national religion, because it’s a silly issue and a single question on a poll 18 months out from the presidential election. We’re all worrying over nothing!

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And HIPSTERS!!!11!!

75 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 2:05:24pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

And HIPSTERS!!!11!!

It’s just like hipsters being annoying to non-hipsters!

On the plus side, it’s useful when you can very clearly see how much weight to give comments.

76 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 24, 2015 2:06:03pm

secular theocracy

a religion whose central tenet is lack of religion

the only people allowed to members in it are those who refuse to join

77 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 2:06:13pm

East Coast, CA is looking for its winter. If you find it please feel free to send it back.

78 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 24, 2015 2:06:19pm

re: #70 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Apparently it is an unimportant question. It doesn’t matter that the majority of Republicans want to make Christianity the national religion, because it’s a silly issue and a single question on a poll 18 months out from the presidential election. We’re all worrying over nothing!

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I wish it did not represent a serious trend in a national party.

79 Kryptik  Feb 24, 2015 2:06:25pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

So, we SHOULDN’T let anyone vote?

God help me, I’ve seen and heard enough people, without a sense of irony or facetiousness, proclaim that we should require property ownership again for the right to vote that I’ve fully lost any hope of any improvement.

People just want “the right kind of people” voting rather than trying to inform the electorate.

80 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 2:08:06pm

re: #2 The Mother Of All Pies

VOTING IS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!!111

81 D_Red  Feb 24, 2015 2:08:32pm

I was only a kid at the time, but I always remember Ronald Reagan staring deep into my eyes whenever he blatantly denied my will.

82 Lidane  Feb 24, 2015 2:08:51pm

I still want someone to explain to me how building a pipeline across the United States to ship oil from Canada to the rest of the world benefits Americans.

The construction jobs would be temporary. The environmental damage permanent. And we get no direct benefit from any of that oil. WTF.

83 teleskiguy  Feb 24, 2015 2:09:45pm

This made me nearly spit all over my computer monitor.

84 djcelts  Feb 24, 2015 2:10:24pm

I thought the repubs told us that the government doesn’t create jobs…….. only private industry does that, right? So which is it?

85 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 24, 2015 2:10:35pm
86 Skip Intro  Feb 24, 2015 2:11:41pm

re: #82 Lidane

I still want someone to explain to me how building a pipeline across the United States to ship oil from Canada to the rest of the world benefits Americans.

The construction jobs would be temporary. The environmental damage permanent. And we get no direct benefit from any of that oil. WTF.

It benefits two Americans, which in turn benefits all the politicians they own..

87 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 2:13:34pm

Obviously, Canada is taking the veto out on Chris Brown…

R&B singer Chris Brown says he’s been denied entry into Canada; was scheduled to perform in Montreal and Toronto - @CP24
read more on cp24.com

88 ramex  Feb 24, 2015 2:14:58pm

Unions? Boehner mentions unions in a tweet, and pretends as if the GOP gives a shit about them? He better get Scott Walker on the horn and let him know about the GOP’s sudden position change on that subject.

89 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 2:15:20pm

Live video: Hillary Clinton delivers remarks at 1st ever ‘Lead On Watermark Silicon Valley Conference for Women’; following her remarks, she’ll sit for questions in exchange with Kara Swisher - @NBCNews

nbcnews.com

90 wrenchwench  Feb 24, 2015 2:15:23pm

re: #77 klys (maker of Silmarils)

East Coast, CA is looking for its winter. If you find it please feel free to send it back.

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We’re having snow. We had days in the 60s and 70s Fahrenheit over the past couple of weeks. I’m skipping my walk today.

91 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 2:15:35pm

re: #87 Justanotherhuman

I’m sure his criminal record has nothing to do with that.

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92 Jenner7  Feb 24, 2015 2:16:48pm
93 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 2:16:51pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

We’re having snow. We had days in the 60s and 70s Fahrenheit over the past couple of weeks. I’m skipping my walk today.

Yeah, there was apparently some kind of winter storm something that went through south yesterday.

Not here.

Blue blue sky and 66. Again.

(Apparently we should get rain on Friday though.)

94 Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2015 2:18:23pm

re: #89 Justanotherhuman

Live video: Hillary Clinton delivers remarks at 1st ever ‘Lead On Watermark Silicon Valley Conference for Women’; following her remarks, she’ll sit for questions in exchange with Kara Swisher - @NBCNews

nbcnews.com

I wonder what position Ms. Clinton will take on the Keystone pipeline if it’s still a pressing issue next year.

95 Skip Intro  Feb 24, 2015 2:18:40pm

re: #93 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, there was apparently some kind of winter storm something that went through south yesterday.

Not here.

Blue blue sky and 66. Again.

(Apparently we should get rain on Friday though.)

We had our big storm on Sunday. It rained for 30 seconds for a total of .02 inches.

96 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 24, 2015 2:20:10pm

i wonder where the previous programmer keeps all the whitespaces he saved

97 thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2015 2:21:36pm

Evening Lizardim.

98 Skip Intro  Feb 24, 2015 2:22:54pm

Teflon Man walks again.

The Department of Justice is expected to announce this afternoon that no federal charges will be filed against George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Florida youth Trayvon Martin, a Justice official said.

And that’s exactly what they did.

99 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 24, 2015 2:28:12pm

re: #98 Skip Intro

His PD buddies did a very good job destroying the evidence.

100 nines09  Feb 24, 2015 2:28:16pm

I hold the entire GOP in contempt for wishing this poison pipeline to run down the middle of our nation and possibly endanger dwindling water assets for millions of folks (citizens). For a few lousy bucks. No jobs. No cheaper prices. Nothing but a few lousy bucks. Thank YOU Mr. Obama. Fuck these dolts, and the Trans Canada can Trans Canada that pipeline on their own Trans Canadian soil. Shove off.

101 Jenner7  Feb 24, 2015 2:29:38pm
102 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 2:30:21pm

I think this would be a death sentence, too, unless he was put in protective custody.

Boston Bar Association asks Department of Justice to accept life sentence without parole for Tsarnaev instead of seeking death penalty. - @BostonJustice
see original on twitter.com

103 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2015 2:31:12pm

re: #100 nines09

I hold the entire GOP in contempt for wishing this poison pipeline to run down the middle of our nation and possibly endanger dwindling water assets for millions of folks (citizens). For a few lousy bucks. No jobs. No cheaper prices. Nothing but a few lousy bucks. Thank YOU Mr. Obama. Fuck these dolts, and the Trans Canada can Trans Canada that pipeline on their own Trans Canadian soil. Shove off.

And not to forget language in that bill allows a foreign company to take private property via eminent domain, and also specifically indemnifies the company from any future environmental damages while saddling the landowners with any cleanup costs.

The GOP really does think Americans are that stupid.

104 OhNoZombies!  Feb 24, 2015 2:31:22pm

re: #82 Lidane

I still want someone to explain to me how building a pipeline across the United States to ship oil from Canada to the rest of the world benefits Americans.

The construction jobs would be temporary. The environmental damage permanent. And we get no direct benefit from any of that oil. WTF.

Environmental clean up jobs.//

105 No Country For Old Haters  Feb 24, 2015 2:33:11pm
106 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 24, 2015 2:37:07pm
107 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 24, 2015 2:38:27pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

And not to forget language in that bill allows a foreign company to take private property via eminent domain, and also specifically indemnifies the company from any future environmental damages while saddling the landowners with any cleanup costs.

The GOP really does think Americans are that stupid.

Could you provide a link for that?

I have people I want to see that language. Changes i eminent domain are heads-up stuff amongst the other agricultural people around here.

108 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 2:39:36pm

re: #106 The Mother Of All Pies

Racist bastard says derpity, derpity, derp?

109 OhNoZombies!  Feb 24, 2015 2:40:49pm

re: #106 The Mother Of All Pies

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Hmmm. Feeding hungry Americans vs. killing people…
Not seeing the problem.

110 No Country For Old Haters  Feb 24, 2015 2:42:30pm

re: #109 OhNoZombies!

Hmmm. Feeding hungry Americans vs. killing people…
Not seeing the problem.

Feeding Americans, and unkilled brown people are both problems to too many right-wingers.

111 Sionainn  Feb 24, 2015 2:43:12pm

re: #101 Jenner7

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ROFLMAO! This guy is nuts.

112 nines09  Feb 24, 2015 2:46:10pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

And not to forget language in that bill allows a foreign company to take private property via eminent domain, and also specifically indemnifies the company from any future environmental damages while saddling the landowners with any cleanup costs.

The GOP really does think Americans are that stupid.

Well they know a percentage are. You can find them every day at the hate filled waterholes. But the GOP holds the common man in contempt. They are the lowest of the low.

113 ObserverArt  Feb 24, 2015 2:46:49pm

re: #68 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Have we ever had a non-Christian presidential candidate? I know we’ve never had a non-Christian president. But oh yeah, besides that, Christianity is terribly disadvantaged in presidential politics.

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So, Obama has fooled you too, eh?

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114 nines09  Feb 24, 2015 2:48:51pm

Linkre: #107 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

Here’s one that was shot down.

115 nines09  Feb 24, 2015 2:50:19pm

And another. Check the dates.

116 De Kolta Chair  Feb 24, 2015 2:50:44pm
Existent and proposed Canadian-U.S. oil pipelines, mostly existent.
117 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 24, 2015 2:51:24pm

Check your local listings tonight my friends. It’s Tuesday, and that means Fresh Off The Boat is on ABC tonight. We all deserve the sanity break.

118 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 2:53:05pm
119 ObserverArt  Feb 24, 2015 2:53:31pm

re: #82 Lidane

I still want someone to explain to me how building a pipeline across the United States to ship oil from Canada to the rest of the world benefits Americans.

The construction jobs would be temporary. The environmental damage permanent. And we get no direct benefit from any of that oil. WTF.

I just emailed Johnny Boehner letting him know I was glad the President vetoed Keystone. I also reminded him he is the worst Speaker of the House ever. I always remind him of that…based on poll numbers.

I figure my email address gets booted as spam…but the little effort it takes makes me feel better.

120 Skip Intro  Feb 24, 2015 2:53:35pm

re: #101 Jenner7

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How did ace journalist CharlesCJohnson manage to get scooped —- again?

121 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 24, 2015 2:54:14pm

re: #114 nines09

Link

Here’s one that was shot down.

Thanks

122 Decatur Deb  Feb 24, 2015 2:54:47pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, over a foot of snow, then rain and sleet a few days ago turned it all into an insanely dense icepack. Plus we’ve had sub-zero temps and windchills. Most of our roads are narrow, gravel or doubtful dirt, and many roads hug steep ravines without guardrails.
We just had our Level 2 road emergency lifted today.

ETA: My own road is still a complete piece of ice-covered crap. Even though I have a 4WD vehicle, I’m not going to attempt going anywhere for the foreseeable future..

“A 4WD lets you get stuck farther up the holler.”
—UK Archaeology Dept maxim

123 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 2:56:06pm

re: #107 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

In my experience, eminent domain that favors land owners is a joke on projects like this. Although the bill does mention local, state and federal laws regarding eminent domain, land owners not amenable to selling off their land would mean they would have to sue, and the mere fact that access to lands through which the pipeline would go should be accessible to it would more than likely constitute a “public good” argument. Winner: TransCanada; L.oser: land owners

124 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 2:56:58pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

“A 4WD lets you get stuck farther up the holler.”
—UK Archaeology Dept maxim

“4WD helps you go, but it doesn’t help you stop.” - A friend, as 4WDs zoomeded past us in a snowstorm on I-90 near Bozeman MT.

125 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 2:58:11pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

You are in a state of emergency…

Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley declares state of emergency in preparation for winter weather - statement
end of alert

126 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 24, 2015 2:59:08pm

re: #125 Justanotherhuman

You are in a state of emergency…

Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley declares state of emergency in preparation for winter weather - statement
end of alert

As long as a robot doesn’t suddenly appear and say, “You’re about to have an accident.”

127 De Kolta Chair  Feb 24, 2015 3:00:54pm
I READILY ADMIT THAT O’REILLY SAID THIS IN FEBRUARY 2013
128 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 3:02:24pm

re: #127 De Kolta Chair

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But, you know, Obama doesn’t love America as it is, only as what he wants it to be…..

129 Decatur Deb  Feb 24, 2015 3:03:31pm

re: #125 Justanotherhuman

You are in a state of emergency…

Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley declares state of emergency in preparation for winter weather - statement
end of alert

Did he discover the kids are building gay snowbrides?

130 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 3:05:19pm

Well, the UPS guy just made a delivery to my grandson. I asked him how the roads were and he said OK, but some of the side roads not so good.

Grandson said he’s driving a rental 2015 Mercury SUV for work and going to North Augusta. They’re not going to use those high profile Transit vans in this weather. It’ll be below freezing in this area and allegedly rain tomorrow.

131 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 3:07:42pm

And you thought you were having a bad day, cont.

Grand Canyon rescue underway for 20 NAU staff, students

Read more: kpho.com

132 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 3:07:54pm
133 De Kolta Chair  Feb 24, 2015 3:09:08pm

re: #68 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Have we ever had a non-Christian presidential candidate

There are some who would cite the gentleman on the right of this photo:

Pictured on the left: his boss.
134 wrenchwench  Feb 24, 2015 3:09:42pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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I was looking at that…

135 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 24, 2015 3:09:50pm

Stay classy, Ted

136 Chez Ko Pe  Feb 24, 2015 3:10:09pm

re: #26 Kragar

Golly, how does that play out in the who-doesn’t-love-what sweeps?

137 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 3:10:44pm
138 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2015 3:12:15pm

re: #107 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

Could you provide a link for that?

I have people I want to see that language. Changes i eminent domain are heads-up stuff amongst the other agricultural people around here.

Not off hand right now. I’ll have to see where I found the link to the bill where I found that language.
But you can google it for some website sources.

139 Decatur Deb  Feb 24, 2015 3:12:33pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

I’m just curious - were there still people who didn’t know Ron Paul is a rotten racist?

He delegated all his bad thoughts to Lyndon LaRouche.

140 Decatur Deb  Feb 24, 2015 3:16:15pm

To honor the Gov’s weather emergency, dog insists on his evening walk NOW. BBL

141 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 3:16:45pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

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He’s not a racist! He’s a racial realist!!

142 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 3:17:34pm

re: #139 Decatur Deb

Argh. Back in the day, a couple I knew from the peace movement joined that gang and that was 45 yrs ago. We never heard from them again.

143 ObserverArt  Feb 24, 2015 3:20:39pm

Heh, just saw this video elsewhere…thought some might find it fun.

…

144 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 3:22:34pm

Two grocery store trips today, as one does, to get this week’s groceries.

Managed to forget two items from the list.

I have no real desire to go do a third trip.

Guess it is something else for dinner tonight!

145 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 3:24:10pm

re: #144 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Two grocery store trips today, as one does, to get this week’s groceries.

Managed to forget two items from the list.

I have no real desire to go do a third trip.

Guess it is something else for dinner tonight!

“You bought Guacamole. Did you buy any chips?”

146 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 3:24:36pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

“You bought Guacamole. Did you buy any chips?”

…dammit.

(Not the chips, but didn’t get the pico de gallo…)

147 Skip Intro  Feb 24, 2015 3:24:59pm

Nevada Republican says cancer is a fungus you can flush out with salt water

Nevada state Assemblywoman (and future Fox News hire) Michele Fiore (R) plans to introduce a bill she said would provide more options for cancer patients — but actually relies on what medical experts call a myth, Think Progress reported.

“If you have cancer, which I believe is a fungus, and we can put a pic line into your body and we’re flushing with, say, salt water, sodium cardonate through that line and flushing out the fungus,” Fiore said on her radio show over the weekend. “These are some procedures that are not FDA-approved in America that are very inexpensive, cost-effective.”

rawstory.com

148 thedopefishlives  Feb 24, 2015 3:25:12pm

re: #146 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…dammit.

(Not the chips, but didn’t get the pico de gallo…)

Make that three items.

149 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 3:28:14pm

re: #148 thedopefishlives

Make that three items.

Instead of beef chorizo tacos with cabbage slaw tonight, it may be pasta with bacon, shredded brussels sprouts, and lemon zest.

With baked Parmesian zucchini sticks.

150 Ace-o-aces  Feb 24, 2015 3:32:12pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s not a racist! He’s a racial realist!!

That means he’s really racist.

151 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2015 3:32:49pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

“A 4WD lets you get stuck farther up the holler.”
—UK Archaeology Dept maxim

“or upside down in the crick…”
—UK Archaeology Dept corollary

152 Mike Lamb  Feb 24, 2015 3:36:48pm

Remember when the GOP was dismissing temp jobs back when the gov’t hired seasonal employees to complete the census? Those were good times.

153 makeitstop  Feb 24, 2015 3:43:25pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Boehner is having a complete meltdown over the veto:

twitter.com

Remember when Republicans repped themselves as Big Many Men?

Boehner’s one weepy sumbitch.

154 [deleted]  Feb 24, 2015 5:39:47pm

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