Yes, he really did.
Trump: “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.” https://t.co/8OLSxoRbzD
— Eli Stokols (@EliStokols) September 26, 2019
The LA Times has now published an audio recording of Trump making this not-very-veiled threat.
I want this piece of shit to not just be thrown from office, but to suffer for the rest of his life.
Typed up before this thread opened:
re: #200 Mescalero09
So. Where’s the translator that translated the meeting between Trump and Putin whose notes were shredded?
If I was him I’d be in a foreign embassy pleading asylum as I record everything I know.
First, I thought that was a woman. Second, no one knows whether that person was even still alive before this. And considering they were translating a meeting between mob bosses, I might bet against it.
I have no idea what they held over that person’s head to get them to even consider translating that train wreck, nor why that person didn’t run to request asylum the second they were free from Secret Service eyes.
Many Senate Republicans said today that they haven’t read the whistleblower complaint yet. Others said the complaint doesn’t change things and raises “more questions than answers.”Here’s what they told reporters about the complaint:
Oklahoma Sen. James Lankford and North Dakota Sen. John Hoeven each said they were in appropriations mark-ups and hadn’t yet read the full complaint.
Indiana Sen. Mike Braun said he hadn’t read it either, adding that he didn’t know about the allegations to “lock down” information at the White House. Braun went on to say that he didn’t feel the complaint would change Republican’s views of impeachment, and said the Democrats had made a mistake starting an impeachment inquiry before knowing more about the complaint.
Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander said he has not read it the complaint. “I’m waiting for the intelligence committee to finish its work.”
Ohio Sen. Rob Portman said he said he’s been “running around” all day and hasn’t read it and would not comment.
Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton said “no comment” twice and boarded a senators-only elevator when asked if he was concerned the White House was locking down information.
Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said “I’ll have a better idea of how credible he is later this afternoon” when asked if he is concerned about the strong allegations from a credible whistleblower.
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, a Republican from Florida, told reporters he has read the whistleblower’s complaint, and says he has “more questions than answers.”
So in short, they’re a bunch of spineless fecks
Meanwhile, the corruption continues unabated. https://t.co/Zvc6KT0CKK
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
From downstairs, didn’t want this to get lost in the shuffle
re: #218 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
This is a buddy/mentor of the soldier/terrorist arrested at Ft Riley earlier this week
Former U.S. Soldier Who Fought With Ukrainian Far-Right Militia Wanted For U.S. Murder https://t.co/3FykGnPUXi
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) September 26, 2019
Trump has a signed agreement with Abe to work on a trade agreement with Japan. I’m guessing he needed his ego stroked.
Congrats to @POTUS and @AbeShinzo on signing an agreement on early achievements to strengthen 🇺🇸 🇯🇵 trade relations. We look forward to further negotiations with Japan for a comprehensive agreement. pic.twitter.com/62rRH0Gj9l
— ジョセフ・M・ヤング 駐日米国臨時代理大使 (@USAmbJapan) September 26, 2019
The President’s suggestion that those involved in the whisteblower complaint should be dealt with as “we used to do” for “spies and treason” is a reprehensible invitation to violence against witnesses in our investigation.
All Americans must denounce such witness intimidation. https://t.co/cTQQXdbGsa— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) September 26, 2019
re: #4 electrotek
So in short, they’re a bunch of spineless fecks
Took me 5 min to read
No not fully evaluate. But get a sense
Trump is losing it. It’s all slipping away from him at last, and he knows it. He’s almost guaranteed to take some kind of action now that will make things much worse. Hang on to your hats.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
re: #7 Dread Pirate
Trump has a signed agreement with Abe to work on a trade agreement with Japan. I’m guessing he needed his ego stroked.
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“You know, these animals in the press,” Trump went on. “They’re animals, some of the worst human beings you’ll ever meet.” @EliStokols has the goods.
https://t.co/fRNOicHFdn— Adam Wren (@adamwren) September 26, 2019
A person who spoke with Trump in last 24 hours says he sounded “more distracted,” less focused than usual, not appreciating the potential legal peril for his administration. Trump was bragging about his fundraising and treating the Ukraine investigation as a “pain in the ass.”
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) September 26, 2019
Trump doesn’t say the whistle blower was wrong.
He doesn’t say the whistle blower made it up.
He’s pissed that the whistle blower was able to get the information to make his complaint.
He’s confirming that the information was correct, it was just never supposed to get out.— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) September 26, 2019
Trunp doesn’t say that he didn’t do it.
Trump says the people who caught him should he executed.— Jesse Ferguson (@JesseFFerguson) September 26, 2019
re: #14 makeitstop
A person who spoke with Trump in last 24 hours says he sounded “more distracted,” less focused than usual, not appreciating the potential legal peril for his administration. Trump was bragging about his fundraising and treating the Ukraine investigation as a “pain in the ass.”
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) September 26, 2019
I’m ok with all that
We all know what happens now.
President Art-of-the-Deal is about to step up and shut down the government. https://t.co/66jB8NyLoy— Ed Bott (@edbott) September 26, 2019
Chairman Schiff: We’ll be working through the recess.
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) September 26, 2019
I’d go further.
Hearings every day, and have staff lawyers doing the key questioning. It’s too important to leave up to individual members who might not be skilled at the follow up questions.
re: #19 lawhawk
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Hearings every day, and have staff lawyers doing the key questioning. It’s too important to leave up to individual members who might not be skilled at the follow up questions.
Yupp
Make it look professional
Republicans are now trying to say they were ready to make a gun control deal but then these mean Democrats started this impeachment stuff, and I’m wondering exactly how stupid they think we are.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
re: #21 Charles Johnson
Answer: Pretty fucking stupid.
Now Donnie is a small town Sheriff in a crooked county and he wants to meet us all on a dark deserted highway.
It’s the GOP American Dream.
re: #24 Mescalero09
Now Donnie is a small town Sheriff in a crooked county and he wants to meet us all on a dark deserted highway.
It’s the GOP American Dream.
With the cool wind in his hair?
//
re: #18 jaunte
I believe Congress is funded no matter what the president tries.
Wait, seriously???
Shit show https://t.co/MjRxOc0Ctv
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) September 26, 2019
re: #26 Belafon
He’ll vandalize whatever he can get his hands on.
re: #26 Belafon
I believe Congress is funded no matter what the president tries.
And the House and Senate both still get paid during a shutdown anyway. Donnie ain’t gonna be able to put the brakes on this train.
Wow. Tide is shifting *very* quickly. 22% of Republicans strongly support impeachment, 10% of Republicans somewhat support impeachment. Only 49% of Republicans oppose impeachment.https://t.co/FuLcXkaQxg pic.twitter.com/iGQ6NYBhbm
— Zach Wahls (@ZachWahls) September 26, 2019
Donald Trump has engaged in behavior that subverts our democratic values and jeopardizes our elections. His reckless decision to call a foreign power for the purpose of getting dirt on a political opponent is unprecedented, unpresidential and a betrayal of the Constitution. https://t.co/8AMtfKoUYL
— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) September 26, 2019
Does she know what she’s doing or not?
Yep, she does.
re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg
And stay at a hotel you could never leave?
Trump runs the Hotel California….
re: #12 DangerMan
Just another count in the impeachment. Witness intimidation
Yep. This is why he needs to be impeached. He’s powerful and dangerous. No self control and no sense of boundaries on how a leader should speak in public.
re: #30 Charles Johnson
“Everyone off the sinking ship, quickly!”
re: #30 Charles Johnson
100% of Republicans do not know their party died and rotted out.
re: #32 lawhawk
I still get a kick that Trump’s dump hotel in Las Vegas is in the shitty part of town, and that the state won’t give him a gambling license because of his past.
A Senate trial could bring out information that reaches far beyond the tawdry Ukraine shake-down. I would not be surprised at all to see GOPers right down to the local level start urging Trump to resign.
re: #4 electrotek
So in short, they’re a bunch of spineless fecks
Disqus commenter
“the sheer number of GOP senators and high ranking officials that claim to have not yet read the 9 page whistleblower complaint is staggering. Of course they are lying but it shows how toxic the allegations are and they don’t quite know how to respond to them in defense of Trump. Good luck, this is what happens when you lie down with dogs”
Donny is retweeting all of his personal twitter accoun rantings on the official POTUS account.
Not this one though, he deleted this rant
While we all cherish the PressSecBot, the real thing is always better pic.twitter.com/17oFrUVGyy
— 𝘞𝘉 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) September 26, 2019
re: #30 Charles Johnson
Topline - majority of the nation supports impeachment (strongly/somewhat). That’s huge.
And I’m with you on making sure impeachment doesn’t just address Ukraine.
It has to go all the way back to the beginning with Russia, the obstruction, Mueller, emoluments, financial crimes, unindicted coconspirator of federal felonies with Cohen, etc. All of it.
There’s a narrative here: Trump is now and has always been a criminal who used the presidency to enrich himself and his cronies and to accumulate power by any means - including illegally. He sought out information from foreign powers, hoped to gain more information from foreign powers, and used US funds (or withholding same) to get what he wanted for his personal campaign and enrichment.
Every step of the way, he’s violated his oath, federal laws, and the US Constitution.
What’s worse is that the GOP has enabled him every step of the way, and none of them should be allowed off the hook. Pence is directly implicated and the House needs to look at impeaching him too (and prior to Trump in the order of conduct). All of Trumpworld has to go, but so too does the GOP that enabled him (and that’s what 2020 will help with). Impeachment addresses the immediate need to remove Trump from office.
How ‘bout both? He’s terrified, which has turned him into a cornered snake, which should be terrifying for anyone too close to him (like the whistleblower and their leak-source, both of whom he all-but-officially called in a hit on in New York).
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 26, 2019
My goodness imagine if we hadn’t taken the House.
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) September 26, 2019
“No new foreign deals will be made whatsoever during the duration of President Trump’s presidency.”
– Trump Org attorney Sherri Dillon, Jan. 11, 2017https://t.co/tBRzZUvy3T pic.twitter.com/sbpy1M1SF1— Zach Everson (@Z_Everson) September 26, 2019
re: #18 jaunte
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Question is will he do something as stupid as saying he’ll sign the spending bill as soon as impeachment is off the table…
re: #42 DangerMan
While lewandowski jump on
Lewandowski wants to join Trump’s impeachment team.
What exactly does he bring to the table, other than assaulting reporters or acting inappropriately? Because he’s not some expert on impeachment law or white collar crime (other than carrying out said crimes).
Trump needs people like Emmet Flood, and he wont find them, because he’s driven them off or wont listen to them. Trump always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room, even when it’s clear he’s dumber than a bag of hammers. He thinks he’s smarter than his lawyers (which in the case of Rudy might actually be true at this point), but Rudy isn’t alone on Trump’s legal team.
For starters, everyone in Trumpworld needs lawyers - and their lawyers need lawyers.
And then everyone involved needs to bone up on how to say the following:
“On counsel’s advice, I invoke my right under the Fifth Amendment not to answer, on the grounds I may incriminate myself.”
Because at this point, everything they’re saying is incriminating themselves in not just the crime, but the subsequent coverups.
Yes! The fact witnesses are the way to present the case. Given Republicans’ concern about the second-hand nature of the complaint, they will most certainly cooperate entirely with this effort. 😉 https://t.co/ekgwEugFIQ
— Elizabeth de la Vega (@Delavegalaw) September 26, 2019
re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg
“Everyone off the sinking ship, quickly!”
“Rats first, then women and children!”
OK, so we have unstable grifters like Wohl offering money to whoever outs the whistleblower (yeah, good luck collecting from him), but lets say that someone outs the whistleblower, and one of the insane right wing deplorables murders him?
Amazing that in this day and age, I have to be concerned that this could happen. Trumps mind is like a ball made out of rubber bands, and the bands are starting to snap. They need to sequester him if they want him to survive the week.
re: #49 lawhawk
Lewandowski wants to join Trump’s impeachment team.
What exactly does he bring to the table, other than assaulting reporters or acting inappropriately? Because he’s not some expert on impeachment law or white collar crime (other than carrying out said crimes).
Trump needs people like Emmet Flood, and he wont find them, because he’s driven them off or wont listen to them. Trump always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room, even when it’s clear he’s dumber than a bag of hammers. He thinks he’s smarter than his lawyers (which in the case of Rudy might actually be true at this point), but Rudy isn’t alone on Trump’s legal team.
For starters, everyone in Trumpworld needs lawyers - and their lawyers need lawyers.
And then everyone involved needs to bone up on how to say the following:
Because at this point, everything they’re saying is incriminating themselves in not just the crime, but the subsequent coverups.
Retroactive executive privilege
And it won’t work
This sort of confirms Warren’s whole worldview, doesn’t? Big Finance, given the choice between treason and a wealth tax, chooses treason https://t.co/hcnGcpY4vq
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) September 26, 2019
re: #21 Charles Johnson
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Aside from the obvious bullshit—the concept that they won’t enact unrelated legislation designed to keep people safe because of impeachment is really something.
re: #55 Mike Lamb
Aside from the obvious bullshit—the concept that they won’t enact unrelated legislation designed to keep people safe because of impeachment is really something.
“Look what you made me do!”
The GOP has destroyed itself. The rot started in the 50s when the depraved Hunt clan picked up McCarthy’s fallen torch and started using their oil money to promote their vision of conservatism. It picked up with Nixon’s southern strategy and reached maturity with the Reagan campaign’s cynical decision to incorporate and promote the religious right. Trump’s election was their final bid for absolute power and they have subordinated every other consideration to it, going so far as to collude with enemy powers and superstitious nut-cases.
It has failed, and they go down with him, all of them.
re: #58 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Graham in 1999 - impeach to cleanse the WH.
Graham after Trump declared he was running:
If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed…….and we will deserve it.
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) May 3, 2016
There’s a tweet for everything?
Interesting that Trump hasn’t denied any of it. I can also see a coming “defense.” “I was just joking about holding up the money! Everyone knows only Congress can appropriate funds! C’mon!!!…..”
re: #30 Charles Johnson
The GOP is slowly but surely becoming cognizant that Trump is an albatross around their neck and if they don’t do something about that fact, he’s going to take them down with him.
re: #52 Egregious Philbin
OK, so we have unstable grifters like Wohl offering money to whoever outs the whistleblower (yeah, good luck collecting from him), but lets say that someone outs the whistleblower, and one of the insane right wing deplorables murders him?
Amazing that in this day and age, I have to be concerned that this could happen. Trumps mind is like a ball made out of rubber bands, and the bands are starting to snap. They need to sequester him if they want him to survive the week.
I expect them to have a press conference shortly in which they announce that Mueller is the whistleblower.
re: #60 Ace Rothstein
Interesting that Trump hasn’t denied any of it. I can also see a coming “defense.” “I was just joking about holding up the money! Everyone knows only Congress can appropriate funds! C’mon!!!…..”
Roberts: We just granted you the authority to move money any way you want.
Whoa. This was from two days ago. I wonder what the numbers will look like two days from now. https://t.co/v99ooDA4EW
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) September 26, 2019
Hoo boy…
Whistle-Blower Is a C.I.A. Officer Who Was Detailed to the White House https://t.co/52HpYNecHe
— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) September 26, 2019
re: #61 Dr Lizardo
Every mob boss wears out his welcome eventually.
re: #36 Ace Rothstein
I still get a kick that Trump’s dump hotel in Las Vegas is in the shitty part of town, and that the state won’t give him a gambling license because of his past.
I’d imagine that “past” you’re referring to is his Mob connections. The Gaming Commission is keenly sensitive to that.
re: #67 Dr Lizardo
That and the all the money laundering fines he had to pay.
re: #70 Ace Rothstein
That and the all the money laundering fines he had to pay.
Trump never pays the vig…. and that’ll be the thing that ends his stint as crime boss.
Not for nothing, but now that the White House knows it was a CIA analyst specializing in Ukraine, won’t that make him (or her) a whole shitload easier to identify?
re: #66 Ace Rothstein
To be clear, I am not comparing Trump to a mob boss. Tony Soprano was clever, cunning, and smart. Same with Michael Corleone. But this clown makes Fredo Corleone look like Aristotle.
re: #66 Ace Rothstein
Every mob boss wears out his welcome eventually.
Even the smart ones, like Paul Castellano.
On a side note, I’m really hoping they deal with the Castellano hit and Gotti’s takeover of the Gambino Family in this final season of The Deuce. The Gambinos pretty much controlled the porn industry in NYC at that time through their associate Robert DiBernardo, and he’s already been name-dropped in this season’s second episode.
re: #37 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
A Senate trial could bring out information that reaches far beyond the tawdry Ukraine shake-down. I would not be surprised at all to see GOPers right down to the local level start urging Trump to resign.
McConnell won’t allow that to happen.
NYT: Trump is threatening to put people to death over this whistleblower.
Also NYT: Here’s the whistleblower’s home address and a list of places he likes to eat alone.— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) September 26, 2019
re: #75 Skip Intro
McConnell won’t allow that to happen.
Would McConnell have a choice though? If the HoR votes to impeach, it goes to the Senate for trial, with Roberts serving as the trial judge. I don’t recall anything in the Constitution that says such a trial is left to the discretion of the Senate Majority Leader.
re: #77 Dr Lizardo
Would McConnell have a choice though? If the HoR votes to impeach, it goes to the Senate for trial, with Roberts serving as the trial judge. I don’t recall anything in the Constitution that says such a trial is left to the discretion of the Senate Majority Leader.
Apparently the Chief Justice presides, and rules, but rules can be overridden by a majority of the Senate. The question is, by the time this hits the Senate, will Trump already be fucked and the GOP anxious to rid themselves of this turbulent priest mob boss?
re: #77 Dr Lizardo
Would McConnell have a choice though? If the HoR votes to impeach, it goes to the Senate for trial, with Roberts serving as the trial judge. I don’t recall anything in the Constitution that says such a trial is left to the discretion of the Senate Majority Leader.
There is a great deal of political calculation taking place right now.
If Trump is gone before May, maybe someone can step into his place and take the GOP nomination.
Mitt?
Ted Cruz?
Marco Rubio?
Rand Paul?
There are a whole bunch of GOP senators who are carefully putting their fingers into the wind, and who may start to try to quietly build a consensus to pick up the 18 votes they will need to put Trump in jail for the rest of his life.
Checking in on Rush. Schiff flopped today; Biden is corrupt and dirty; Democrats know they flopped; CIA whistle blower is deep state (told you!).
NYT is getting a raft of shit for publishing that whistleblower story.
As they should.
Unfu…. nope. Totally fucking believable. Trump is scared, cornered, and desperate, so he’s tweeting this nonstop bulkshit.
You’re a pathetic cornered crook who’s watching his world burn down because everything you do is for your self-enrichment and power and you ignore the rule of law, your oath, and the Constitution.#ImpeachmentIsHere
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 26, 2019
re: #79 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)
I can think of five now. Concerned Collins, Gardner, Sasse, Murkowski, and Romney.
re: #79 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)
Tusli Gabbard… because she’s showing herself to be more GOPer than anyone you mentioned these days…. /
re: #79 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)
There is a great deal of political calculation taking place right now.
If Trump is gone before May, maybe someone can step into his place and take the GOP nomination.
Mitt?
Ted Cruz?
Marco Rubio?
Rand Paul?There are a whole bunch of GOP senators who are carefully putting their fingers into the wind, and who may start to try to quietly build a consensus to pick up the 18 votes they will need to put Trump in jail for the rest of his life.
How many of them will want to be the nominee for a party where part of them are screaming “Our president was couped out of office” especially if said person voted to remove him?
re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White
re: #79 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)
Yeah, if the HJC can build an airtight case against Trump, one that’s incredibly damaging and pretty much assures not only his loss come 2020, but an electoral fiasco for the GOP as well, they may conclude it’s time for him to go under the bus.
Now, if Trump can be removed before May of next year, then IMO, it’s gonna be Mitt Romney who will move into the role of some kind of caretaker President. Most likely, Pence will step aside at some point, especially if he’s implicated in all this happy horseshit as well (and that’s looking increasingly possible). Why Mitt? Because he’s an also-ran who’d previously received the GOP presidential nod.
re: #73 Ace Rothstein
To be clear, I am not comparing Trump to a mob boss. Tony Soprano was clever, cunning, and smart. Same with Michael Corleone. But this clown makes Fredo Corleone look like Aristotle.
Vincente Gigante was crazy like a fox. Castellano, Gotti, and the rest were clever and spent years honing their practice of avoiding prosecutions by having enough distance between themselves and their cronies who carried out the crimes (plus the enforced silence around everything they did).
Trump is not disciplined, nor is anyone around him disciplined to do anything competently.
The part I’m worried about is that when Trump holes up in some major government building (probably not the WH; it doesn’t fortify well) either next year or the January after, he’s likely to get a percentage of the military to come along even though at that point it’ll technically be him calling for a coup against his successor. He just made damn clear that he expects personal loyalty over the rule of law yet again.
If that percentage, due to the number of Southern Conservatives in the enlisted ranks in-particular, is too great, I’m not likely to see the other side of the ensuing war due to my dependence upon levothyroxine, and I worry about which side the rest of you might see win.
re: #87 lawhawk
Vincente Gigante was crazy like a fox. Castellano, Gotti, and the rest were clever and spent years honing their practice of avoiding prosecutions by having enough distance between themselves and their cronies who carried out the crimes (plus the enforced silence around everything they did).
Trump is not disciplined, nor is anyone around him disciplined to do anything competently.
Trump does have the entire US Justice Dept and Republican Party covering his butt. Those guys never had anything even close to that. Unless he drops dead Trump isn’t going anywhere.
It’s just more of the same whacked-out guilty-as-hell bullshit, but what is up with the apostrophe after “Liddle”? https://t.co/GIopY6ecR1
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
Why isn’t the New York Times affording the whistleblower the same protection they give to THEIR OWN anonymous sources?
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
re: #89 Skip Intro
Trump does have the entire US Justice Dept and Republican Party covering his butt. Those guys never had anything even close to that. Unless he drops dead Trump isn’t going anywhere.
That 22% of Republicans calling for impeachment makes me think that might change.
Man, Rudy is all jumped up…
More from the Republican Department of Everything Is Going Great https://t.co/eaca08QeqI
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) September 26, 2019
re: #89 Skip Intro
Trump does have the entire US Justice Dept and Republican Party covering his butt. Those guys never had anything even close to that. Unless he drops dead Trump isn’t going anywhere.
Yeah but how many in the GOP and DOJ are REALLY going to be willing to stand in front of the firing squad for Trump?
re: #83 Ace Rothstein
Gardner has to know his only hope at this point is to keep his MAGAt voters, though, because he already angered the “centre” of the Colorado electorate between August ‘16 and November ‘18, and it doesn’t look like any amount of pandering could get them to elect him, particularly if Hick wins the opposing nomination. For that reason, he may try to keep the ship from sinking, desperately, instead; hoping that somehow the voter-suppression measures that the state voted in the last time Rs had both portions of the statehouse will work better than they did last fall.
re: #82 lawhawk
Unfu…. nope. Totally fucking believable. Trump is scared, cornered, and desperate, so he’s tweeting this nonstop bulkshit.
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— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) September 26, 2019
re: #91 Charles Johnson
Like, say, the “senior administration official with direct knowledge of the President’s thinking” that everyone knows is Trump himself?
re: #48 Mike Lamb
Question is will he do something as stupid as saying he’ll sign the spending bill as soon as impeachment is off the table…
I wouldn’t put it past him. Only problem good thing about him doing it, is it would make him look even worse/more guilty in the eyes of the American people.
It’s meltdowns all the way down! https://t.co/tu6QKEc6fs
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
re: #93 makeitstop
Man, Rudy is all jumped up…
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And it’s fucking glorious.
How long will it be before Trump demands that Schiff, Pelosi, members of the press, or any of the 2020 Democratic Presidential candidates be arrested for some imagined sedition/treason offense, since they are bringing his criminal activities? I get the feeling it (or something far more sinister) will occur before the beginning of next year.
Short thread.
This decision by the Fifth Circuit in Doe v. @deray McKesson is nothing less than an assault and battery on the First Amendment. Holding “organizers” potentially liable for random un-directed acts by demonstrators is deliberately intended to chill speech. https://t.co/87tLOVwbZ3
— Darren Kaplan (@DarrenKaplan) April 27, 2019
re: #93 makeitstop
Man, Rudy is all jumped up…
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LOU DOBBS last night:“The mood in that White House couldn’t be more high energy. … and I want you to know the joint is hopping. At every level on every floor, this White House is energized, there is sunshine beaming throughout the place and on almost every face.” pic.twitter.com/YNFAwyoD2G
— JM Rieger (@RiegerReport) September 13, 2019
I think “Mr. 9/11”, “America’s Mayor” is pining for the Good Old Days when he wasn’t a national joke.
Rudy Giuliani unleashes in a new phone call with @elainaplott: “These morons—when this is over, I will be the hero.” https://t.co/twWoJoZIZB
— The Atlantic (@TheAtlantic) September 26, 2019
re: #86 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, if the HJC can build an airtight case against Trump, one that’s incredibly damaging and pretty much assures not only his loss come 2020, but an electoral fiasco for the GOP as well, they may conclude it’s time for him to go under the bus.
Now, if Trump can be removed before May of next year, then IMO, it’s gonna be Mitt Romney who will move into the role of some kind of caretaker President. Most likely, Pence will step aside at some point, especially if he’s implicated in all this happy horseshit as well (and that’s looking increasingly possible). Why Mitt? Because he’s an also-ran who’d previously received the GOP presidential nod.
Good point. It’s getting WAY ahead of things to think about, but assuming that Mike Pence somehow lands in the Oval Office, he’s going to have to think about nominating a VP (one who will get the nod from both House and Senate) - and off the top of my head, ol’ Willard might certainly fit the bill….
re: #103 MsJ
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Well, shit.
There’s that case with chilling effect everyone’s been expecting since whenever they faced that a Trump election was inevitable.
It will take decades to get back to even the UK’s freedom-of-speech standards, let alone the pre-fascist US’s.
Is Rudy vindictive enough to turn on the lot of them?
Could be.
You know, when I see the HJC as shorthand for Judiciary, I can’t help but read it initially as HRC… because Hillary knew and had already identified Trump for who he was, what he’d do, and how the GOP would support and enable him every step of the way.
She made the case.
++BREAKING++
Boris Johnson’s sister believes the Prime Minister may be losing control of his behavior because he’s coming “under intense pressure from the people who have invested billions in shorting the £ & British economy for a no deal Brexit”.
Incredible. Staggering.— Nick🇬🇧🇪🇺 (@nicktolhurst) September 26, 2019
re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White
I think “Mr. 9/11”, “America’s Mayor” is pining for the Good Old Days when he wasn’t a national joke.
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Shouldn’t it be more like: “These heroes - when this is over I will be the moron!”
re: #109 makeitstop
Is Rudy vindictive enough to turn on the lot of them?
Could be.
Would he go to jail for Trump? Hope for a pardon, like Manafort didn’t get?
re: #109 makeitstop
Is Rudy vindictive enough to turn on the lot of them?
Could be.
If not vindictive enough then certainly incompetent enough.
Call me old fashioned but I want the tags on the toes on the slabs before I call this investigation- impeachment- trial a success.
re: #111 retired cynic
There’s a lot of that going around.
— Hart Williams (@hartemus) September 26, 2019
re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg
Yeah but how many in the GOP and DOJ are REALLY going to be willing to stand in front of the firing squad for Trump?
That assumes there will be a “firing squad”. Nothing is normal now, so things that would normally happen are all out the window.
As this fellow circulates personal attacks on a candidates child, remember he’s paid by @NBC and @MSNBC https://t.co/38kbq1UnsI
— Michael Barbaro (@mikiebarb) September 26, 2019
Astonishing for the NYT to essentially out the whistle blower in a story that doesn’t advance what we already knew on the same day the President threatened retribution.
— Ben Rhodes (@brhodes) September 26, 2019
Everybody: I really hope we get more reporting on the allegations in the whistle blower complaint.@nytimes: Republicans we call “swing” voters hate impeachment.
Everybody: Not what we asked.@nytimes: We’re going to out the whistle blower.
Everybody: THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) September 26, 2019
re: #102 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
How long will it be before Trump demands that Schiff, Pelosi, members of the press, or any of the 2020 Democratic Presidential candidates be arrested for some imagined sedition/treason offense, since they are bringing his criminal activities? I get the feeling it (or something far more sinister) will occur before the beginning of next year.
He’s been yelling “lock her up” for the last three years. How has that worked out for him?
re: #92 Belafon
That 22% of Republicans calling for impeachment makes me think that might change.
The wording of the question as always is important. If the president did this, should he be impeached. Don’t underestimate the ability of those same people to ignore the reality before them and say there is no evidence that happened.
re: #104 b.d.
last week
LOU DOBBS last night:
“The mood in that White House couldn’t be more high energy. … and I want you to know the joint is hopping. At every level on every floor, this White House is energized, there is sunshine beaming throughout the place and on almost every face.” pic.twitter.com/YNFAwyoD2G— JM Rieger (@RiegerReport) September 13, 2019
“Ja, the counter-attacks I have ordered will break through the Soviet encirclement and we will roll them all the way back to Moscow!”
If trump gets away with this it’ll be because of Rupert Murdoch’s Fox “News.” https://t.co/v0U3CSDYYa
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) September 26, 2019
re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White
Would he go to jail for Trump? Hope for a pardon, like Manafort didn’t get?
Can he be stupid enough to think that’s even a hope? Even Trump was perceptive enough to understand that he couldn’t safely pardon Manafort without something claiming he’d never actually committed any crimes; it was the original reason, before “poison the Biden well even more thoroughly than the Clinton one”, that Trump was calling on Ukrainians.
There would be no such false information that Trump could have apparently-credible third parties produce making it look like Rudy was railroaded and it might even get a R or two to vote for conviction in the Senate.
re: #115 Mescalero09
Call me old fashioned but I want the tags on the toes on the slabs before I call this investigation- impeachment- trial a success.
We just got the House to start an impeachment investigation. That’s a big step. Now you have to get through the process to see if Trump will be impeached. And then there’s the Senate.
This is what I’m worried about on our side. People have been saying that just starting the process is important because it will get information out to the voters (and it looks likes it’s having an effect if you look at how many Republican voters are also calling for impeachment). That will help. But we have to take each step as a victory. We may not make it to conviction, and it will be very hard with the GOP siding with Trump. Don’t move the goal.
re: #103 MsJ
This is an attempt to shut down anti-police brutality demonstrations. Blocking a bridge Durant make one culpable for acts of violence. Ridiculous decision.
More facts the right-wing media bubble will ignore. https://t.co/GOondyOcWP
— Colin Kahl (@ColinKahl) September 26, 2019
Britain 2019:
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This is where we’re going. https://t.co/ynrB0PRt62— Nick🇬🇧🇪🇺 (@nicktolhurst) September 26, 2019
Apostrophe error, but pretty good otherwise.
Rudy Giuliani is the Jakob Wohl of G. Gordon Liddy’s. pic.twitter.com/4oSkma6Z9q
— Cat Angel (@karlathome) September 26, 2019
Related to the brief discussion two days ago(?) concerning the 3 suicides in a week of sailors from the USS George H.W. Bush
sobering: what more can be done to reach out to these young men and women who are serving our country? https://t.co/5btlp9poDH
— Judy Woodruff (@JudyWoodruff) September 26, 2019
re: #35 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
With no air wing aboard the crew is around 3,500. Six months into it’s two year dry-dock period I would expect the crew to be significantly less than that. The US suicide rate for males is ~21 per 100,000, annually.
So, 3 per 3,500 in a year would be a serious statistical anomaly. In a week it’s a crisis
re: #36 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
I calculated using only males. While the crew is coed, the male-female ratio is drastically below that in the civilian population
This is a very bad rationale. https://t.co/hihPDpkEU0
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
re: #130 Patricia Kayden
This is an attempt to shut down anti-police brutality demonstrations. Blocking a bridge Durant make one culpable for acts of violence. Ridiculous decision.
I hope to see it shot down at a higher level. Or maybe when they figure out that it can apply to political rallies (DT) and the far right, and many many more assemblies, even this Senate will do something about it.
re: #135 Charles Johnson
Dean isn’t a very good editor in chief, and his poor judgment shines through every page and awful decision being made at the Times.
re: #129 Belafon
I’m moving nothing. I’ll let my chickens hatch before I count them.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
The Bennett tweet refers to the NYT article that is working very hard at outing the whistleblower
Reminder that the President of the United States just suggested this person should executed https://t.co/mJngtKAY5O
— Brendan Nyhan (@BrendanNyhan) September 26, 2019
The federal witness tampering statute expressly applies to a proceeding before Congress. https://t.co/nU5iXlyBMS
— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) September 26, 2019
LOL that we’re gonna learn the name of the whistleblower in like 40 minutes probably but that the NYT deep-state “I Am Part of the Resistance” Op-Ed writer is still anonymous. https://t.co/HYZo3Wcyp3
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 26, 2019
Riddle me this: NYT attempts to out a whistleblower protected by law while regularly granting anonymity to Trump Administration officials who have repeatedly used the paper to mislead the public. pic.twitter.com/inALoPGqpx
— Eric Schultz (@EricSchultz) September 26, 2019
re: #111 retired cynic
Sorry. I see that was posted here mid last thread. I’m falling behind!
“”I will be the hero,” Giuliani told me. …“Anything I did should be praised.” Giuliani unleashed a rant about the Bidens, Hillary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, Barack Obama, the media, and the “deep state.”” https://t.co/Fg2LgwNjjg
— Kevin Baron (@DefenseBaron) September 26, 2019
Kind of lost in the shuffle was news that US GDP grew by only 2% in the recently reported quarter.
Sad trombone.
Chris Cuomo just said something about irony and all I can think of is that it’s like Ukraine on your wedding day
— Adam Rothman (@arothmanhistory) September 26, 2019
re: #145 austin_blue
Kind of lost in the shuffle was news that US GDP grew by only 2% in the recently reported quarter.
Sad trombone.
Growth the likes of which the world has never seen!
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NEW: Former Trump official confirms that WH started placing Trump call transcripts into NSC’s codeword system—effectively concealing them—sometime after Mexico, Australia transcript leaks in 2017. Experts say doing that poses whole host of natsec risks. https://t.co/WpcngAUS1K
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) September 26, 2019
EDIT: Isn’t the Australian leak the one that started off this whole investigation business?
re: #139 Charles Johnson
Take off the second O and it works…
I have just signed an Executive Order banning whistles.
— Donald J. Drumpf (@RealDonalDrumpf) September 26, 2019
It’s not spoken with a genteel Southern drawl.
— Aditya Sood (@adityasood) September 26, 2019
Those ‘spy’ comments - there’s audio.
🚨 We’ve just posted the AUDIO of these Trump comments about the whistleblower in this story >> https://t.co/NBeoCuXKgT
— Eli Stokols (@EliStokols) September 26, 2019
Was Bolton on board when all this shit was going down? Boy. Wouldn’t that be something.
Joseph Maguire, former Navy SEAL, career Navy man from a family full of them, and now the Director of National Intelligence, found his previous life and career in tiny chunks all around his feet. https://t.co/Crb7T1iVCt
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) September 26, 2019
“…Maguire never had a chance. Shortly before the hearing, the committee released both the official complaint filed by the mysterious whistleblower regarding the administration*’s attempt to blackjack the embattled government of Ukraine into helping ratfck the president* a second term. These two documents so fundamentally demolished the threadbare remnants of the administration*’s shabby alibis as to be self-evident. Maguire’s choices were either to ignore the obvious criminality that he knows about as well as anyone in government outside of the administration*, or to play dumb and couch his responses in various forms of privilege, not all of which actually exist. To nobody’s surprise, Maguire did both.”
Giuliani Evasive On Whether He Has Security Clearance - https://t.co/TKWWcI09uf pic.twitter.com/x6WvTGUlFs
— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) September 26, 2019
Life comes at you fast:
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 26, 2019
re: #86 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, if the HJC can build an airtight case against Trump, one that’s incredibly damaging and pretty much assures not only his loss come 2020, but an electoral fiasco for the GOP as well, they may conclude it’s time for him to go under the bus.
Now, if Trump can be removed before May of next year, then IMO, it’s gonna be Mitt Romney who will move into the role of some kind of caretaker President. Most likely, Pence will step aside at some point, especially if he’s implicated in all this happy horseshit as well (and that’s looking increasingly possible). Why Mitt? Because he’s an also-ran who’d previously received the GOP presidential nod.
then why not mccain?
natural born
over 35
resident 14 years
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The LA Times obtained an audio recording of Trump threatening to execute the whistleblower.https://t.co/ugAcUthPZL
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
re: #160 Charles Johnson
Doesn’t even dawn on him that had he not done anything wrong/illegal, there’d be no whistleblower.
re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White
Would he go to jail for Trump? Hope for a pardon, like Manafort didn’t get?
manafort
- remember him?
- some of the story is that this whole scheme was to create a plausible pardon scenario
- the dim light at the end of paulie’s tunnel just went out
re: #159 DangerMan
then why not mccain?
natural born
over 35
resident 14 years
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Is this good news for John McCain?
The New York Times should be doing some soul-searching about how they missed a once-in-a-generation scoop because they were so obsessed with both-sides-ism.
Instead, they’re trying to out the whistle-blower. https://t.co/ABBEWJzvhS— Matt O’Brien (@ObsoleteDogma) September 26, 2019
re: #120 Skip Intro
From @SenTomCotton this AM: “There is a young women in her 20s in Arkansas who has filed a paternity suit in Arkansas state court against Hunter Biden. And he is dodging process, and has done so for months.
yeah, “dodging process” by actually, you know, responding in court asking for a dismissal
re: #125 danarchy
The wording of the question as always is important. If the president did this, should he be impeached. Don’t underestimate the ability of those same people to ignore the reality before them and say there is no evidence that happened.
when enough R’s start saying, yes he did this….
re: #164 jaunte
to me it kind of initiates the question if Vogel is on multiple payrolls, both the NYT and one of Putin’s dark money outlets as a creator of stories that suit their narrative. In fact it wouldn’t shock me if there were more than just Vogel’s name on that payroll ledger.
re: #86 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, if the HJC can build an airtight case against Trump, one that’s incredibly damaging and pretty much assures not only his loss come 2020, but an electoral fiasco for the GOP as well, they may conclude it’s time for him to go under the bus.
Now, if Trump can be removed before May of next year, then IMO, it’s gonna be Mitt Romney who will move into the role of some kind of caretaker President. Most likely, Pence will step aside at some point, especially if he’s implicated in all this happy horseshit as well (and that’s looking increasingly possible). Why Mitt? Because he’s an also-ran who’d previously received the GOP presidential nod.
Couple of ways this could play out:
1. Senate Republicans go to Pence and say, “we won’t vote to convict you but you’re not running in 2020.” Trump gets removed, Pence is the lamest of ducks, almost everyone that ran in 2016 runs again. Republicans avoid a President Pelosi scenario.
2. This plays out like Watergate, Pence resigns, Trump is forced to nominate a caretaker sort who promises not to run in 2020 should Trump be removed from office. Trump is removed from office, caretaker is the lamest of ducks, almost everyone that ran in 2016 runs again.
3. Both Trump and Pence are impeached and removed. Pelosi serves out the term as a caretaker - and a fairly lame duck because McConnell refuses to confirm any of her judicial nominations - almost everyone that ran in 2016 runs again.
re: #168 KGxvi
well… that envisions a scenario where McConnell doesn’t come under scrutiny for all of the “cooperation” he and the GOP did to coordinate with the Trump campaign and the Russians, knowing full well that he’s guilty as fuck based on all of his actions post the disclosure that the Russians were fucking about in our elections via multiple avenues, targeted social media campaigns, actual vote tampering and voter suppression and well as illegal campaign financing.
Now, a legit question could be will McConnel weather the downfall of Trump, especially since no one in the Trump Crime Family can apparently keep quiet about all of the illegal shit that they do, plus his wife is in Trump’s cabinet and who knows what kind of illicit footsie has been taking place there. I will say this, Mitchy’s spouse is a damn sight more circumspect in her dealings than folks like Ross, Mnuchin and DeVos, but I suspect she’s just as dirty because … well have we found anyone in the Trump administration who isn’t sleazy, stupid or corrupt (or various flavors of all three?)
Just sayin….
re: #161 GlutenFreeJesus
Doesn’t even dawn on him that had he not done anything wrong/illegal, there’d be no whistleblower.
Obama did nothing wrong, and there were all sorts of investigations.
re: #164 jaunte
Considering there’s a reporter at the NYT that was telling Trump to get out of the way so they could oncover stuff on Biden in Ukraine, I’m not the least bit surprised at their current actions.
re: #165 DangerMan
yeah, “dodging process” by actually, you know, responding in court asking for a dismissal
And even if Hunter Biden had a whole Farkle Family* of Arkansas bastards lined up at the courthouse, what difference does that make wrt to his work/lack-of-it in Ukraine?
Or is this just the usual GOP smear crapola.”?
*era-specific reference. No explanation provided. 😉
re: #168 KGxvi
Couple of ways this could play out:
1. Senate Republicans go to Pence and say, “we won’t vote to convict you but you’re not running in 2020.” Trump gets removed, Pence is the lamest of ducks, almost everyone that ran in 2016 runs again. Republicans avoid a President Pelosi scenario.
2. This plays out like Watergate, Pence resigns, Trump is forced to nominate a caretaker sort who promises not to run in 2020 should Trump be removed from office. Trump is removed from office, caretaker is the lamest of ducks, almost everyone that ran in 2016 runs again.
3. Both Trump and Pence are impeached and removed. Pelosi serves out the term as a caretaker - and a fairly lame duck because McConnell refuses to confirm any of her judicial nominations - almost everyone that ran in 2016 runs again.
president pelosi isnt happening.
3 / simultaneous isnt likely - by either side. it’ll be sequential. otherwise it will look like a dem coup. and the r’s would easily maneuver around it by timing / logistically.
2 is possible, though trump isnt forced to nominate. would be stupid though that might allow him to finish his term if the R’s wouldnt vote to convict because nancy
and it may be to the dems benefit to drag this…. just enough… that it’ll cripple anyone else running an effective campaign
- i think booting trump even with less than a year to go is good for the system
- i also think exposing everything, cutting his nuts off, then leaving him in the chair - cause there’s like 4 months left sends the same ‘rule of law ‘message.
Ken Vogel, reporter for the @nytimes, just blocked Liz Dye within two minutes of her tweeting this. @deanbaquet, could you please remind your reporters they are not supposed to block the Twitter ombudspeople? https://t.co/Z6dZoyCbEP
— Rebecca Schoenkopf, Wonkette Editrix, King Of You (@commiegirl1) September 26, 2019
Heck of personal week for me.
Yesterday I received a ludicrously expensive (for me at least) laptop from my brother, for my birthday.
It’s easily been something like four decades since he’s given me gift, let alone a birthday present.
And today, the apartment leasing office informed me I just won a free month’s rent.
I really need to see if my Powerball numbers hit last night.
Change the subject, turn the page…… (Bob Seger, right?)
Roger’s new campaign slogan… “Roger Williams for TX-25 I’M INVISIBLE! VOTE FOR ME!”
— 🦈And the Wind Cries “Impeach Him”🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) September 26, 2019
re: #176 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Heck of personal week for me.
Yesterday I received a ludicrously expensive (for me at least) laptop from my brother, for my birthday.
It’s easily been something like four decades since he’s given me gift, let alone a birthday present.
And today, the apartment leasing office informed me I just won a free month’s rent.I really need to see if my Powerball numbers hit last night.
Sorry, the two gifts and trump’s impeachment are your three winners for the week.
They are offering a bounty on a lawful WBer. This is disgusting. https://t.co/3PGAdGL53M
— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) September 26, 2019
re: #171 Belafon
Obama did nothing wrong, and there were all sorts of investigations.
which he was able to manage and govern at the same time
re: #173 Jay C
And even if Hunter Biden had a whole Farkle Family* of Arkansas bastards lined up at the courthouse, what difference does that make wrt to his work/lack-of-it in Ukraine?
Or is this just the usual GOP smear crapola.”?*era-specific reference. No explanation provided”. 😉
- usual crapola
- laugh-in
This is a #FreeRangeChicken before the hailstorm https://t.co/OdSIAWr1vx
— 🦈And the Wind Cries “Impeach Him”🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) September 26, 2019
There Goes the GOP narrative.
“Hunter Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of Burisma that took place two years before his arrival.” https://t.co/nAA873S8k6— Robin Osborne (@kyblueblood) September 26, 2019
He’s not joking, though. https://t.co/KAQkbPMMmh
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
re: #177 Dave In Austin
Change the subject, turn the page…… (Bob Seger, right?)
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re: #179 lawhawk
think the NYT is trying to collect?
They are offering a bounty on a lawful WBer. This is disgusting. https://t.co/3PGAdGL53M
— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) September 26, 2019
The @WSJ has confirmed @nytimes reporting that the whistleblower is a male CIA officer. w/ @wstrobel https://t.co/0uu9nfA2Gj
— Dustin Volz (@dnvolz) September 26, 2019
“…Once an individual has the intent to commit a solicitation, the act of solicitation is very easy to complete. All that is required is that the individual encourage or convince another in some way to commit a crime. This can take the form of a request, suggestion or encouragement to complete the crime. It can also involve commanding, forcing, or inducing the other person to commit the crime. As soon as any of these occurs, the crime of solicitation has been completed.”
justia.com
Ordinary folks may joke about executing someone they don’t like.
When a president of the United States does it, it’s no longer a joke.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
re: #184 Charles Johnson
as you say
he’s not joking
he’s fishing
He’s not joking, though. https://t.co/KAQkbPMMmh
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
re: #173 Jay C
And even if Hunter Biden had a whole Farkle Family* of Arkansas bastards lined up at the courthouse, what difference does that make wrt to his work/lack-of-it in Ukraine?
Or is this just the usual GOP smear crapola.”?*era-specific reference. No explanation provided”. 😉
There are whole Farkle towns in Texas as well as Farkle churches.
re: #190 DangerMan
as you say
he’s not jokinghe’s fishing
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This is a typical by the numbers Mafia style execution order. Nothing less.
No direct order, merely a suggestion of what would be appreciated if conducted by an underling or civilian looking for the Don’s approval and a reward of some sort.
Korn………
Jacob Wohl as Corn: A thread pic.twitter.com/oO1pblHEzw
— Devin Nunes Cocaine Cow (@EmmReef) April 21, 2019
I don’t speak for all Democrats but I, a registered Democrat, believe that Trump is rarely if ever fully nude and challenge the White House produce alleged “nude photos” if they even exist which they surely do not. https://t.co/ZNq9m5eD8i
— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) September 26, 2019
I’m almost to the point where I seriously want him on trial for his life.
re: #192 Florida Panhandler
This is a typical by the numbers Mafia style execution order. Nothing less.
No direct order, merely a suggestion of what would be appreciated if conducted by an underling or civilian looking for the Don’s approval and a reward of some sort.
The Nazis had enough trouble with their SA paramilitary wing that they eventually purged the SA in the night of the long knives.
The GOP has found an efficient way to update that model, by having stochastic terrorists take the place of SA goons. Orders can’t really be issued, but there’s no need to pay the thugs, and the deniability is priceless.
This seriously gets worse everyday. It was never funny. It could get down right bloody if he thinks his power will be taken.
re: #195 HappyWarrior
I’m almost to the point where I seriously want him on trial for his life.
im happy with total exposure, humiliation and confiscation
Justice Sotomayor threw—and I cannot stress this enough—a strike. https://t.co/Ff2QYnXU9l
— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) September 26, 2019
still mad about this every single day
“It was like applying for a job and getting 66 million letters of recommendation and losing to a corrupt human tornado.”
— Hillary Clinton, in an interview with CBS News, about the 2016 presidential election.
re: #195 HappyWarrior
I’m almost to the point where I seriously want him on trial for his life.
If Trump’s fate were in my hands, I would not have him killed. I would have every single secret and crime he has in his finances exposed. Then every Trump, Trump family, Trump Organization etc. asset would be confiscated.
Let the old bigot end his days dirt poor and raging at the fact he can no longer pay people to pretend to put up with him.
Remember all the hell Obama got when he joked about sending drones after guys chasing after his daughters?
re: #203 EPR-radar
If Trump’s fate were in my hands, I would not have him killed. I would have every single secret and crime he has in his finances exposed. Then every Trump, Trump family, Trump Organization etc. asset would be confiscated.
Let the old bigot end his days dirt poor and raging at the fact he can no longer pay people to pretend to put up with him.
True. I’d take that. It’s just. Goddamn. It will never end.
re: #204 b.d.
Remember all the hell Obama got when he joked about sending drones after guys chaing after his daughters?
I remember the scandal that was: Obama wearing a tan suit; not wearing a suit in the Oval Office, putting mustard on a hamburger; etc.
But with Trump, every day is a new and more obscene scandal of epic proportions.
re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I’m sure all the wingnuts are outraged but Sotomayor is both a baseball fan and the judge who ended the 1994 Strike. I question her baseball wisdom(she’s a Yankees fan and I kid since she’s literally from the Bronx.
Daniel Dale realizing he has to fact check whether Miss Ukraine ever won Miss Universe. #ImpeachTrump #TrumpImpeachment #trumppressconference pic.twitter.com/R2uERQEb3Z
— KFair Writes (@kfairwrites) September 25, 2019
When your hero 👇 blows up your notifications. 😳 #journalismmatters #FactCheck #TrumpPressConference https://t.co/fyGQu2qFJz
— KFair Writes (@kfairwrites) September 26, 2019
The easiest way to convince everyone you didn’t do it is to offer to kill the whistleblower.
— Kashana (@kashanacauley) September 26, 2019
re: #206 lawhawk
I remember the scandal that was: Obama wearing a tan suit; not wearing a suit in the Oval Office, putting mustard on a hamburger; etc.
But with Trump, every day is a new and more obscene scandal of epic proportions.
Fucking Hannity whined about his burger condiment choices. Hannity was more believable as a pig named Squealer at Manor Farm.
re: #203 EPR-radar
If Trump’s fate were in my hands, I would not have him killed. I would have every single secret and crime he has in his finances exposed. Then every Trump, Trump family, Trump Organization etc. asset would be confiscated.
Let the old bigot end his days dirt poor and raging at the fact he can no longer pay people to pretend to put up with him.
Trading Places had it right: “You know, it occurs to me that the best way to hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people.”
re: #174 DangerMan
president pelosi isnt happening.
3 / simultaneous isnt likely - by either side. it’ll be sequential. otherwise it will look like a dem coup. and the r’s would easily maneuver around it by timing / logistically.
2 is possible, though trump isnt forced to nominate. would be stupid though that might allow him to finish his term if the R’s wouldnt vote to convict because nancy
and it may be to the dems benefit to drag this…. just enough… that it’ll cripple anyone else running an effective campaign
- i think booting trump even with less than a year to go is good for the system
- i also think exposing everything, cutting his nuts off, then leaving him in the chair - cause there’s like 4 months left sends the same ‘rule of law ‘message.
Of my scenarios, I think Scenario 1 is the most likely. Also possible is that Pence runs and faces a primary challenge/contested convention a la Ford in 1976.
“Finally had the Ming vase delivered in mint condition after 9 months, but I’d rather have got it 24 hours after purchase in shards.” pic.twitter.com/CwcjG6Dfdp
— Danielle Blake🔶️ (@abradacabla) September 26, 2019
re: #211 Patricia Kayden
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He’s his one worst enemy. If you support his stupid agenda, you really should hate him since he impedes his agenda. But then again part of his agenda is just being a pathetic douche and that’s all the losers on the alt right want.
Team Trump doesn’t seem flustered at all.
I am an ethical-ass journalist so, no, I did not pretend to be Jim Baker to figure out where the hell this was going or wtf it was about. (Also I didn’t even know which Jim Baker he was referring to, tho he mentioned “Bush” at least once.)
— Asawin Suebsaeng (@swin24) September 26, 2019
In the darkest hours of the American Revolution, Thomas Paine wrote: “The times have found us” – and today they have found us again. We do not place ourselves in the greatness of our Founders – but we do place ourselves in the urgency we face in securing our democracy.
— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) September 26, 2019
re: #187 Dave In Austin
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So the idea here is to burn a CIA officer in retaliation for not kowtowing to (or in this case, whisteblowing) administration wrongdoing.
Then again, Donald Trump *did* pardon Scooter Libby when he was convicted of doing exactly the same thing.
re: #217 goddamnedfrank
I feel like that’s some sort of Deepthroat code
re: #219 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
So the idea here is to burn a CIA officer in retaliation for not kowtowing to (or in this case, whisteblowing) administration wrongdoing..
A Republican tradition, by now, isn’t it?
https://t.co/tKY3GsRURa pic.twitter.com/K4KhxF9TAx
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 26, 2019
re: #222 Charles Johnson
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So another bizarre stream of consciousness word salad diarrhea.
re: #214 KGxvi
Of my scenarios, I think Scenario 1 is the most likely. Also possible is that Pence runs and faces a primary challenge/contested convention a la Ford in 1976.
i know were just guessing here
- some of this depends on what comes out - is pence ‘dirty’ / how much
- some is how far the dems decide to go - just trump, plus pence, barr, trumps spawn, et al - my guess is there’s a lot of people involved in this
- some is gonna be gamesmanship and timing - it’s easier to see when there’s just the one case against the president as at the moment.
- some is hopefully gonna be the dems just investigating the hell out of it all so everything sees the light of day. slice the thing open like an autopsy. even if they dont have the time or inclination to ‘prosecute’ each one, they will have produced a lot.
This aligns with that YouGov poll that came out earlier.
Here is the NPR/PBS/Marist poll trend on impeachment.
April: 39% support, 53% oppose
Today: 49% support, 46% oppose— Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) September 26, 2019
Uh-oh….here we go….4:45pm surprise pool call to the Oval
— John Roberts (@johnrobertsFox) September 26, 2019
re: #226 Blind Frog Belly White
We’re not going anywhere yet. Trump’s gotta rant.
Remarkable
— Devin Nunes Cocaine Cow (@EmmReef) April 30, 2019
AM radio yakkers are overboard and flustered today. Rush ended his show saying he’s tired of it, needs to go relax and take a break.
(for the day, didn’t sound like anything more)
re: #224 DangerMan
i know were just guessing here
- some of this depends on what comes out - is pence ‘dirty’ / how much
- some is how far the dems decide to go - just trump, plus pence, barr, trumps spawn, et al - my guess is there’s a lot of people involved in this
- some is gonna be gamesmanship and timing - it’s easier to see when there’s just the one case against the president as at the moment.
- some is hopefully gonna be the dems just investigating the hell out of it all so everything sees the light of day. slice the thing open like an autopsy. even if they dont have the time or inclination to ‘prosecute’ each one, they will have produced a lot.
I don’t think they will necessarily go after Barr, and I don’t think Javanka are impeachable. But I fully expect that if/when Pence is sworn in (and that just made me shudder), all three of them are fired immediately after he says “so help me god.”
re: #229 BigPapa
AM radio yakkers are overboard and flustered today. Rush ended his show saying he’s tired of it, needs to go relax and take a break.
(for the day, didn’t sound like anything more)
New dealer?
re: #230 KGxvi
I don’t think they will necessarily go after Barr, and I don’t think Javanka are impeachable. But I fully expect that if/when Pence is sworn in (and that just made me shudder), all three of them are fired immediately after he says “so help me god.”
if it comes to ‘president pence’, yeah, likely
I am fucking disgusted.
The operative distinction at play between these two examples is access and adjacency to power. The New York Times has made it clear that the only thing they actually value in any given human being is that person’s corporate utility and continued ability to help generate “scoops.”
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) September 26, 2019
re: #228 Dave In Austin
sort of reminds me of the idea of genetic reincarnation from Gene Roddenberry’s Andromeda series and the Nietzscheans
re: #230 KGxvi
I don’t think they will necessarily go after Barr, and I don’t think Javanka are impeachable. But I fully expect that if/when Pence is sworn in (and that just made me shudder), all three of them are fired immediately after he says “so help me god.”
Given that the entirety of Trump’s approach to staffing is based on personal loyalty to him, and as a consequence the whole lot of them are incompetent leaky backstabbers, I’d expect a Night of the Long Knives.
re: #230 KGxvi
I don’t think they will necessarily go after Barr, and I don’t think Javanka are impeachable. But I fully expect that if/when Pence is sworn in (and that just made me shudder), all three of them are fired immediately after he says “so help me god.”
Javanka aren’t impeachable simply by virtue of the fact that they don’t hold Senate confirmed offices.
They may not go after Barr via impeachment simply because he’ll probably be gone by the time they get around to trying, but they can and should seek to have his license to practice law revoked. That seems like the easier route, given the ample evidence of his committing perjury and obstructing justice.
re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White
Given that the entirety of Trump’s approach to staffing is based on personal loyalty to him, and as a consequence the whole lot of them are incompetent leaky backstabbers, I’d expect a Night of the Long Knives.
How about the Halloween massacre?
re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White
Given that the entirety of Trump’s approach to staffing is based on personal loyalty to him, and as a consequence the whole lot of them are incompetent leaky backstabbers, I’d expect a Night of the Long Knives.
“all y’all: shoo”
Fascists never know when to stop with their smearing. Greta Thunberg could have just been “an annoying, preachy kid”, but now she’s a Deep State undercover operative/ISIS antifa plant whose parents sold her to pedophiles who use her to promote the (((NGO))) agenda
— Vaush (@VaushV) September 26, 2019
re: #239 DodgerFan1988
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Greta is who Ben Shapiro’s rag has been devoting their outages are. Ben should just admit it. He’s a Trumper.
re: #240 electrotek
Imagine if she wasn’t white.
If Greta Thunberg wasn’t white nobody’s be listening to her.
cf Little Miss Flint and the fact that Flint still doesn’t have drinkable water.
re: #244 goddamnedfrank
If Greta Thunberg wasn’t white nobody’s be listening to her.
cf Little Miss Flint and the fact that Flint still doesn’t have drinkable water.
If it was Ilhan Omar’s teenage daughter, it would be a different case.
re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White
If she wasn’t white, they’d just ignore her.
The good whites come from Norway. /////
re: #229 BigPapa
AM radio yakkers are overboard and flustered today. Rush ended his show saying he’s tired of it, needs to go relax and take a break.
(for the day, didn’t sound like anything more)
Another bottle of Viagra and trip to the DR are in the works?
re: #229 BigPapa
AM radio yakkers are overboard and flustered today. Rush ended his show saying he’s tired of it, needs to go relax and take a break.
(for the day, didn’t sound like anything more)
I can’t wait for them to turn on Trump. It’s going to be amazing when the call goes out that he’s persona non grata
re: #247 Barefoot Grin
The good whites come from Norway. /////
Wait, does that make us a shithole country, since that is where Trump is from? //
re: #245 electrotek
If it was Ilhan Omar’s teenage daughter, it would be a different case.
I figure there’d be pics floating around purporting to be her flipping off the camera, taken from the FB or Instagram account of someone who looks vaguely like her. And since we’re talking a girl, there’d be nudes of someone who looks even less like her.
And the press corps was called back to the White House for…
A photo op with sheriffs to tell us how great the border is being policed! No questions. Just a statement.
— Brian J. Karem (@BrianKarem) September 26, 2019
re: #253 makeitstop
And the prss corps was called back to the White House for…
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What, no tearful resignation? Oh, well. A man can dream.
For US Senators these guys have an oddly low level of interest in following political news. https://t.co/F4cMHTX58v
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 26, 2019
re: #247 Barefoot Grin
The good whites come from Norway. /////
Greta instills great fear in our White Supremacist right wing. They cannot attack her race or ethnicity (their usual tactic) after all she represents more authentic “whiteness” being Nordic than many mouth breathers on the American right. They therefore have to try and concoct a bizarre conspiracy narrative and middle school level personal attacks that only appeals to really half of the Trump cult 35%.
re: #253 makeitstop
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this was just showing who’s got the power and who dances
re: #252 Blind Frog Belly White
I figure there’d be pics floating around purporting to be her flipping off the camera, taken from the FB or Instagram account of someone who looks vaguely like her. And since we’re talking a girl, there’d be nudes of someone who looks even less like her.
They’d also be asking *very serious* questions about whether she was the product of incest because they can’t let that conspiracy theory go either.
Now this is a fucking shift.
now Business Insider results on whether House should launch impeachment inquiry:
53% yes
33% no— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) September 26, 2019
re: #258 KGxvi
They’d also be asking *very serious* questions about whether she was the product of incest because they can’t let that conspiracy theory go either.
“Hey, I’m just asking questions!”
“I don’t care if Trump grabs me by the pussy or assaults my under-age daughter or mocks my disabled son. After all, my husband does the same thing.”
— Lord Piltdown (@jimreynolds54) September 26, 2019
re: #250 KGxvi
I can’t wait for them to turn on Trump. It’s going to be amazing when the call goes out that he’s persona non grata
Yeah he’s going to lose it.
re: #258 KGxvi
They’d also be asking *very serious* questions about whether she was the product of incest because they can’t let that conspiracy theory go either.
And given Omar’s religion, there’d be pics of FGM, claiming to be her daughter, too, because Moozlim.
re: #250 KGxvi
I can’t wait for them to turn on Trump. It’s going to be amazing when the call goes out that he’s persona non grata
The rats will abandon the sinking ship but they built it and we have to make sure they own it till the end of time.
benghazi!1!
— 🦈And the Wind Cries “Impeach Him”🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) September 26, 2019
re: #239 DodgerFan1988
Fascists never know when to stop with their smearing. Greta Thunberg could have just been “an annoying, preachy kid”, but now she’s a Deep State undercover operative/ISIS antifa plant whose parents sold her to pedophiles who use her to promote the (((NGO))) agenda
— Vaush (@VaushV) September 26, 2019
re: #261 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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They look like they are the real life Langmans from Parks and Recreation.
I know there aren’t many California Republicans left, but this should still make us all smile:
When Republicans likely to vote in the state’s March presidential primary are asked their opinions about having other Republican candidates challenge Trump in next year’s GOP primaries, 60% say this would be a bad thing, but 40% believe it would be a good thing.
At present, only 29% of likely California voters are inclined to vote for Trump, 67% are not. He’s at 36-37% in traditional Republican areas like Orange County, San Diego, the Inland Empire, and the Central Valley. Only 31% approval vs 69% disapproval (19-58 on strong approval/disapproval).
Given those numbers, don’t be surprised to see a couple California Republicans jump in on impeachment.
re: #266 Dave In Austin
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Well, as Asha Rangappa said, if what Trump did was perfectly kosher, then Biden’s efforts where cromulent as well.
re: #261 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Perhaps that’s true for the majority White women voters (52% voted for Trump in 2016) but not for the rest of us.
Anyhoo four years ago Barack Obama used a selfie stick in the White House pic.twitter.com/rV4kzrqlTe
— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) September 26, 2019
OUTRAGE!!!11!!!
I am counting the seconds to the inevitable chapter in this story when Trump tries to make Rudy the fall guy and Rudy turns on him and all hell breaks loose
— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) September 26, 2019
It’s going to be super fun when people in Secretary Pompeo’s office realize that neither Attorney-Client nor Executive Privilege apply to their communications with Rudy Giuliani, but that RICO statutes do.
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) September 26, 2019
re: #272 Patricia Kayden
Perhaps that’s true for the majority White women voters (52% voted for Trump in 2016) but not for the rest of us.
My husband is still a puddle of laughter on the kitchen floor
re: #261 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
- im not gonna argue if you want pass on all trump’s boorish behavior against women, minorities, and anyone not white
- even the mere constitutional violations like emoluments, obstruction etc
- and kids in cages
but if you’re ok with election rigging only because your side wins, then you’re just a traitor to the country you claim to be all ‘for’
Amy Kremer of Women For Trump claims that female voters don’t care about Trump’s behavior or tweets (“My husband says things I don’t agree with”) and predicts that even those who participated in the Women’s March will vote for him in 2020. https://t.co/C77Sw3Dch2 pic.twitter.com/urP90GhNwB
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 26, 2019
re: #275 goddamnedfrank
If you’re a lawyer who crimes you’re not a lawyer any more. Ghouliani quoted this AM saying he’s not a lawyer, he’s a hero. Say bye bye to Privilege!
(noted)
re: #279 BigPapa
If you’re a lawyer who crimes you’re not a lawyer any more. Ghouliani quoted this AM saying he’s not a lawyer, he’s a hero. Say bye bye to Privilege!
(noted)
Every state, and I believe the federal common law (yeah, I know it doesn’t exist except when it does) recognizes a crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege. Basically, no privilege if the communications are made it with the intent of committing or covering up a crime or fraud. I believe the federal courts have applied the same standards to executive privilege.
My letter to my Congressperson was effective.
Thank you for reaching out to me about your concerns regarding an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump. As your Representative, your voice is important to me.
I have now called for a formal impeachment inquiry now that it has been revealed that President Trump solicited a foreign government to spread false information about his political opponent…
Sincerely,
Gregory Meeks
GREGORY W. MEEKS
Member of Congress
re: #271 Mike Lamb
Well, as Asha Rangappa said, if what Trump did was perfectly kosher, then Biden’s efforts where cromulent as well.
except as we know, the facts are not nearly the same
re: #285 DangerMan
selfie stick - narcissist //
remember when they called Obama an inexperienced celebrity, know-nothing, narcissist?
And then nominated the text book example of that?
re: #286 KGxvi
remember when they called Obama an inexperienced celebrity, know-nothing, narcissist?
And then nominated the text book example of that?
Projection is their favorite past time.
re: #280 KGxvi
Every state, and I believe the federal common law (yeah, I know it doesn’t exist except when it does) recognizes a crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege. Basically, no privilege if the communications are made it with the intent of committing or covering up a crime or fraud. I believe the federal courts have applied the same standards to executive privilege.
but we werent intending to commit a crime
If you were representing Hillary, your “friends” would be accusing you of running an international child sex cannibal ring. https://t.co/W6GzKYtcpi
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) September 26, 2019
re: #288 DangerMan
but we werent intending to commit a crime
“Look, Mr. Judge, I’m going to tell it to ya straight: We were just going along, conducting normal attorney-client business, then BAM! Crime happened!”
re: #289 gocart mozart
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You weren’t acting as Trumos lawyer, you were acting as his co-conspirator, jackass.
re: #289 gocart mozart
hillary wouldn’t need you to represent her
If you were representing Hillary, your “friends” would be accusing you of running an international child sex cannibal ring. https://t.co/W6GzKYtcpi
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) September 26, 2019
Devin Nunes accusing Democrats of trying to obtain nude pictures of Trump pic.twitter.com/88rdS1RUgV
— The Resistance 🇺🇸 (@NightlyPolitics) September 26, 2019
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