The GOP Has Killed the 1/6 Commission, So Let’s Be Clear on What It Means

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As expected, Mitch McConnell and the Senate Republican minority have used the filibuster to shut down a “bipartisan” commission to investigate the January 6 insurrection at the US Capitol.

We need to grasp what this really means: they are deliberately leaving open the option to take over the government by force if they lose an election. And they’re not leaving it there; they are also enacting laws across the country to restrict voting rights in ways that will let them bypass the will of American voters.

Many people don’t seem to understand how serious this is — and I’d include many Democratic politicians in that. The Republican Party is very systematically and deliberately arranging things to create permanent Republican dominion over the US government — legally if they can, by force if necessary. If the Democratic Party doesn’t wake up and start fighting back much more strongly, the days of representative democracy in the US will be over.

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gocart mozart  May 28, 2021 • 11:10:15am
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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 11:11:46am

Joe (eta manchin) here’s what you could have said, which I shamelessly stole

“My thinking has evolved in filibuster reform. While there are advantages to this system, and the power it gives to the minority party to make change, when it comes to a point that deciding to investigate a terrorist attack on US soil becomes a strictly partisan issue, it is time to reconsider and reform the filibuster. I will be working with Chuck Schumer and the rest of the Democratic conference to discuss the Senate rules, and how we can preserve the filibuster while not allowing it to be used to provide aid and comfort to domestic terrorists.”

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 28, 2021 • 11:12:34am

re: #1 gocart mozart

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  May 28, 2021 • 11:14:56am

re: #2 Dangerman

Joe here’s what you could have said, which I shamelessly stole

“My thinking has evolved in filibuster reform. While there are advantages to this system, and the power it gives to the minority party to make change, when it comes to a point that deciding to investigate a terrorist attack on US soil becomes a strictly partisan issue, it is time to reconsider and reform the filibuster. I will be working with Chuck Schumer and the rest of the Democratic conference to discuss the Senate rules, and how we can preserve the filibuster while not allowing it to be used to provide aid and comfort to domestic terrorists.”

Shorter Manchin statement:

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Belafon  May 28, 2021 • 11:15:20am

re: #2 Dangerman

“Choosing to put politics and political elections above the health of our Democracy is unconscionable.” Hey Joe, I think you should have a talk to Senator Manchin about why he continues to do this under the rues of “maintaining the filibuster.”

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gocart mozart  May 28, 2021 • 11:16:19am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2021 • 11:22:58am

Sinema didn’t even bother to show up for the fucking vote. Don’t pin this all on Manchin.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 11:23:22am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 11:28:23am

re: #294 Dangerman

Most of America doesn’t get to choose for themselves to take a day for a “personal matter”

Especially when something as consequential as this is coming and you know it

From the previous thread:

re: #301 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When we lived in Oklahoma, our neighbour worked the night shift at Wal*Mart. Her father lived with her but was dying. She also had a six year-old daughter.

Her father died in the middle of the night, and her daughter came over to our house to ask to call her mother (they did not have a telephone).

I called Wal*Mart, which refused to let her off work (that had to be approved by the Bentonville, Ark. office). I called them. They refused as well.

The local Wal*Mart manager also said he would not pass the message about her dead father until the end of her shift, in the morning.

I called the police on her daughter’s behalf and relayed the story. Wal*Mart fired her and banned me from their store (since the police showed up to interview the manager).

I have never set foot in a Wal*Mart again. I will not give that heartless company a single dime.

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steve_davis  May 28, 2021 • 11:28:38am

re: #2 Dangerman

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Joe (eta manchin) here’s what you could have said, which I shamelessly stole

“My thinking has evolved in filibuster reform. While there are advantages to this system, and the power it gives to the minority party to make change, when it comes to a point that deciding to investigate a terrorist attack on US soil becomes a strictly partisan issue, it is time to reconsider and reform the filibuster. I will be working with Chuck Schumer and the rest of the Democratic conference to discuss the Senate rules, and how we can preserve the filibuster while not allowing it to be used to provide aid and comfort to domestic terrorists.”

gonna be optimistic and guess that’s coming. this particular vote wasn’t crucial. Democrats in the House will now form a committee of their own to examine January 6th, and they will have subpoena power. The next thing will be the infrastructure bill. If that gets filibustered, Manchin will make another of these videos saying, “sorry my republican colleagues couldn’t work with us. We’ll do this through reconciliation now.” That will be the shot across the bow for republicans when it comes to voting rights. Filibuster that and Joe will say, “filibuster is dead, unless you want to talk from here until kingdom come.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2021 • 11:29:34am

Most of America doesn’t get to choose for themselves to take a day for a “personal matter”

It’s really hard for an elected official to lose their job outside of an election cycle. So they can get away with all kinds of shit you and I could not.

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ipsos  May 28, 2021 • 11:30:40am

re: #10 steve_davis

But in addition to Manchin, you also need Sinema, and who knows what the hell is going through HER brain right now, since she seems to off in space somewhere.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 11:31:15am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Sinema didn’t even bother to show up for the fucking vote. Don’t pin this all on Manchin.

She gets equal scorn.

My Republican senator had more concern for getting to the bottom of this than she did.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 11:32:56am
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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 11:34:50am

re: #10 steve_davis

gonna be optimistic and guess that’s coming. this particular vote wasn’t crucial. Democrats in the House will now form a committee of their own to examine January 6th, and they will have subpoena power. The next thing will be the infrastructure bill. If that gets filibustered, Manchin will make another of these videos saying, “sorry my republican colleagues couldn’t work with us. We’ll do this through reconciliation now.” That will be the shot across the bow for republicans when it comes to voting rights. Filibuster that and Joe will say, “filibuster is dead, unless you want to talk from here until kingdom come.”

Totally plausible

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Dr Lizardo  May 28, 2021 • 11:36:34am

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I agree. Go big or go home. Fuck the GOP.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 11:37:35am

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Definitely axe the “concessions”
if rs don’t vote for them they are not concessions.

They are “when are you going to stop punching yourself in the face”?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 11:39:31am

re: #17 Dangerman

Definitely axe the “concessions”
if rs don’t vote for them they are not concessions.

They are “when are you going to stop punching yourself in the face”?

See also the ACA

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 11:42:11am
WASHINGTON (SBG) — A 77-year-old Florida woman faces a felony battery charge after police say she threw a burger at a Burger King employee before calling her several racial slurs.

Judith Ann Black “was not satisfied with a Whopper sandwich she had ordered” and yelled at an employee at a Burger King restaurant in Wildwood, Fla., according to a police report.

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PD: Angry over tomato thickness, woman hurls racial slurs, burger at Burger King employee (WEAR-TV, Pensacola)

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Charles Johnson  May 28, 2021 • 11:42:38am

As if to make my point for me.

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Florida Panhandler  May 28, 2021 • 11:45:33am

Today’s Republican blockade against justice signals what is to come. No matter what the actual election outcome is, Republican controlled states will send their own future electors and nullify those votes won by Democratic candidates. This is a foregone conclusion. The coup against America is in progress.

The only questions remaining are how will the country respond to this authoritative takeover in 2025? Peaceful protests are already threatened by states passing laws authorizing violent actions against protestors by letting right wing murderers drive through crowds with impunity and shoot those they consider “a threat.” Will the country have enough consolidation to commit to effective general strikes? Will consumer strikes and boycotts be enough to make powerful corporations demand Republican accountability? If Putin’s Russia serves as the example desired by Trump and his Republican sock puppet party, the answer is we are fucked as a democracy. We were teetering on falling from a Flawed Democracy status to a Hybrid Regime. If these terrible events do play out we will quickly fall from Hybrid Regime to a full-blown Dictatorship.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 11:47:54am

That didn’t take long. (1:00)

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 28, 2021 • 11:48:19am

Why would Republicans vote against investigating the ANTIFA insurrection? Just wondering aloud for the Qultists who want us to think that’s what they really believe.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 11:51:41am

re: #23 GlutenFreeJesus

Why would Republicans vote against investigating the ANTIFA insurrection? Just wondering aloud for the Qultists who want us to think that’s what they really believe.

X dimensional chess, where x is…I forget

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 11:54:38am

re: #24 Dangerman

X dimensional chess, where x is…I forget

Up their arses.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 11:59:08am

We are witnessing the birth of a new Christian denomination.

God
@thegoodgodabove
*
33m
The Qanon Cult now has 30 million believers in the USA, as many as several major religions, and they are hellbent on violence.

If you’re not afraid, you should be.

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Charles Johnson  May 28, 2021 • 11:59:43am
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KingKenrod  May 28, 2021 • 12:01:03pm

I suppose Schumer and McConnell had an agreement on the absences. But if 4 more GOPers had voted for the commission, Sinema and Murray’s absence could have led to one of the most humiliating defeats in Democratic party history. I suppose Schumer would hold the vote open until someone returned - but then the GOP could just switch their votes to no. Either way, a PR disaster.

STOP trusting Mitch to do the right thing. And if this is a real crisis, start acting like it. Excused absences aren’t allowed!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 28, 2021 • 12:01:25pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Because they are liars? They know it was their supporters who attacked the Capitol and their only regret was that the insurrectionists did not succeed.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 28, 2021 • 12:04:36pm

re: #23 GlutenFreeJesus

Why would Republicans vote against investigating the ANTIFA insurrection? Just wondering aloud for the Qultists who want us to think that’s what they really believe.

Qanon works in mysterious ways.

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Charles Johnson  May 28, 2021 • 12:05:30pm

JFC!

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  May 28, 2021 • 12:06:38pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

GOP Senators are secret members of the Deep-State Antifa Baby Peddlers:

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dharmamark  May 28, 2021 • 12:07:19pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Nice of the asshole to quote a song lyrics about MLK…

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gocart mozart  May 28, 2021 • 12:07:20pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 12:07:52pm

“Mitch McConnell asked Senate Republicans to do him a ‘personal favor’ and vote against the January 6th Commission. In doing so, Mitch McConnell asked them to be complicit in his undermining of the truth of January 6th. In bowing to McConnell’s personal favor request, Republican Senators surrendered to the January 6th mob assault.

“Leader McConnell and Senate Republicans’ denial of the truth of the January 6th insurrection brings shame to the Senate. Republicans’ cowardice in rejecting the truth of that dark day makes our Capitol and our country less safe.

“As Gladys Sicknick, the mother of fallen U.S. Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick, said this week, the refusal to have a January 6th Commission was a ‘slap in the faces of all the officers who did their jobs that day.’

“Democrats worked across the aisle, agreeing to everything that Republicans asked for. We did this in the interest of achieving a bipartisan Commission. In not taking yes for an answer, Republicans clearly put their election concerns above the security of the Congress and country.

“Honoring our responsibility to the Congress in which we serve and the Country which we love, Democrats will proceed to find the truth.”

speaker.gov

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 28, 2021 • 12:09:55pm

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 12:11:23pm

re: #34 gocart mozart

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Yep, just before the choir begins singing “Onward, Christian Soldiers” as the handmaids bow their heads.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 12:11:28pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

JFC!

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Belafon  May 28, 2021 • 12:12:20pm

re: #36 sagehen

Is that Noah Wylie (?sp) in the suit?

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danarchy  May 28, 2021 • 12:14:57pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

See also the ACA

Those concessions were made to get the blue dog dems on board. A couple of republicans would have just been a nice bonus so they could call it bipartisan.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 28, 2021 • 12:16:07pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

JFC!

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piratedan  May 28, 2021 • 12:16:16pm

re: #40 Belafon

I believe so, yes… and yes, I’ll be watching THAT show.

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Dave In Austin  May 28, 2021 • 12:17:45pm
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gwangung  May 28, 2021 • 12:17:53pm

re: #40 Belafon

Is that Noah Wylie (?sp) in the suit?

Yup.

And we ALL wish these folks existed in real life.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 12:20:47pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

JFC!

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just like benedict arnold; she was a patriot until the moment she decided not to be any more

just like every gun owner is “responsible” until the first moment, all of a sudden, they arent

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Eventual Carrion  May 28, 2021 • 12:20:53pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

JFC!

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They just can’t help trying to take MLK’s legacy in vain.

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 12:21:10pm

Perhaps somebody should tweet Gosar this picture:

And ask him if that fellow’s pride also remains intact.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 12:21:15pm

Republican state senator John Cavanaugh now buying merch from Democratic state senators for their reëlection campaigns.

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JOE 🥓  May 28, 2021 • 12:21:46pm
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sagehen  May 28, 2021 • 12:23:01pm

re: #40 Belafon

Is that Noah Wylie (?sp) in the suit?

Indeed it is.

Timothy Hutton didn’t want to be in it.

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sagehen  May 28, 2021 • 12:25:50pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

Perhaps somebody should tweet Gosar this picture:

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And ask him if that fellow’s pride also remains intact.

Is that Lee Harvey Oswald?

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 12:28:20pm

re: #52 sagehen

Is that Lee Harvey Oswald?

That is indeed Oswald.

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 12:28:34pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

JFC!

Gosar is a full blown, out and proud fascist. Some of the others are adopting fascism only because they are deeply corrupt and as a last resort, kind of like Denethor if he had gotten the ring. That’s Mitch McConnell.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 12:30:28pm

Firefox just ate itself on my computer. I’m trying a reinstall.

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 12:32:10pm

Gosar should be reminded that participating in an attempted coup was a violation of the very oath that Babbitt and every other soldier (serving or retired) who participated in that disgraceful action. Her actions brought disgrace to that uniform and to her service.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 12:33:00pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Done. It didn’t help.

Firefox does everything except connect to a Website (or a local page like About:Robots)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 28, 2021 • 12:34:46pm
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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 12:36:36pm

re: #58 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I’m sure the state has no problem agreeing to his terms.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 12:38:36pm

Long read at Juanita Jean’s. The lede:

Understanding hate and where it comes from is paramount. In each case there is of perceived progress, a backlash occurred in polite society. In the 1970s that was a backlash against the sexual and political freedom people were seeking. Women were seeking more rights and the children were experimenting with mind altering drugs. The hatred of this from many was understandable.

(more)

The New Culture Wars

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 28, 2021 • 12:40:37pm

re: #58 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Then he can go ahead and die in prison.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 28, 2021 • 12:40:50pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

I’m sure the state has no problem agreeing to his terms.

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I’m quite sure the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections would much rather put him on the street. Old prisoners are damned expensive

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Hecuba's daughter  May 28, 2021 • 12:43:06pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

JFC!

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Maybe she did perform a service for her nation. Could the shot that took her life have given some insurrectionists a pause, tempering the actions they took?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 12:50:00pm

Another restaurant in Lincoln, Nebraska taking the “worker shortage” claim in a different direction.

Sign in the window: Due to “virus hysteria, we are closed today.”

Another restaurant complaining that nobody wants to work for them is Wheatfields.

In addition to owner Ron Popp being a COVID-denier and religious extremist who puts anti-abortion messages right on his menus, he was also the subject of a class action lawsuit for wage theft in 2012 that was signed on to by 37 former Wheatfields employees. An employee noticed their paycheck was not adding up to their hours worked and started keeping track. From the KETV story linked above: “According to court documents, the allegations amount to “unlawful deductions” from wages, failure to pay the federal minimum wage, unlawful appropriation of tip money, and for taking pictures of a Wheatfields manager allegedly altering an employee’s work hours in the restaurant’s payroll system database.”

I can’t imagine why they are having trouble finding people to work for them. Can you?

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“Lazy” Workers Are Not the Problem (Seeing Red Nebraska)

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 12:53:18pm

re: #52 sagehen

Is that Lee Harvey Oswald?

the list of turncoat americans who meet the same criteria is actually quite long

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 12:54:54pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Another restaurant in Lincoln, Nebraska taking the “worker shortage” claim in a different direction.

Sign in the window: Due to “virus hysteria, we are closed today.”

(more)

“Lazy” Workers Are Not the Problem (Seeing Red Nebraska)

Companies that have a history of working environments that are just a step above sweatshops and screwing their employees on their pay are having trouble finding employees. I can’t imagine why that could be…

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 12:56:20pm

re: #58 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Good, let him die in prison.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 12:56:31pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Companies that have a history of working environments that are just a step above sweatshops and screwing their employees on their pay are having trouble finding employees. I can’t imagine why that could be…

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There are several stories in the article from restaurant and bar workers who note that due to deductions and other things, that $2.13 / hour paycheck frequently comes to $0, meaning the only pay they get is tips.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 12:58:08pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Another restaurant in Lincoln, Nebraska taking the “worker shortage” claim in a different direction.

Sign in the window: Due to “virus hysteria, we are closed today.”

(more)

“Lazy” Workers Are Not the Problem (Seeing Red Nebraska)

who’s ‘hysterical’?

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 1:10:48pm
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re: #72 The Pie Overlord!

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Belafon  May 28, 2021 • 1:11:52pm

re: #77 No Malarkey!

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If you have to use the word Trump in your sentence, you know it’s bad, Joe.

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 1:12:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 1:13:43pm

re: #77 No Malarkey!

Joe Manchin (D-Susan Collins)

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 1:15:40pm

Some enterprising fascist should write “The Ashli Babbitt Song” to the same tune as “The Horst Wessel Song”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2021 • 1:16:29pm

We’re never going to find out what really fucking happened on 1/6 are we?

Republicans will NOT co-operate with any Democratic investigation or inquiry.

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 1:17:26pm

re: #81 No Malarkey!

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The political fallout that the GQP wish to shield themselves from is the nation being told in big bold letters that the insurrection that they were totally supportive of when they thought it would work in their favor was composed of Trump supporters and instigated by Trump himself with their blessing.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 1:18:18pm

re: #81 No Malarkey!

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“…this is much more about raw politics than stealing elections…”

you’re loony if you think those are not the same thing and you can somehow separate them

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 1:18:25pm

re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg

We’re never going to find out what really fucking happened on 1/6 are we?

Republicans will NOT co-operate with any Democratic investigation or inquiry.

We’ll see. I saw a report that the DOJ is entering plea deals with the phalanx of Oathkeepers who assaulted the Capitol. They may know names of higher-ups in the insurrection.

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jaunte  May 28, 2021 • 1:19:41pm
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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 1:23:14pm

re: #86 Dangerman

“…this is much more about raw politics than stealing elections…”

you’re loony if you think those are not the same thing and you can somehow separate them

The “raw politics” is that the GQP are bound and determined to make sure that last November never happens again. That no matter how badly they lose the vote, they will still retain power by putting party bosses in all the relevant positions necessary to decide the winner. And putting the kibosh on this commission is all about ensuring that people have forgotten how close that effort came to succeeding come Nov 2022.

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Charles Johnson  May 28, 2021 • 1:23:58pm
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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 1:25:40pm
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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 1:25:56pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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Well, actually…

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 1:27:31pm

re: #91 No Malarkey!

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We spent four years hearing how much the party “hated” Trump and didn’t like doing his bidding, YET THEY KEPT DOING IT!

You know what you called Nazis who hated the regime yet served it because they feared for their lives? NAZIS!

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jaunte  May 28, 2021 • 1:27:34pm

Strip center retail trolling.
nashvilleguru.com

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jaunte  May 28, 2021 • 1:28:08pm

Smug dopes.

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Belafon  May 28, 2021 • 1:28:52pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

The “raw politics” is that the GQP are bound and determined to make sure that last November never happens again. That no matter how badly they lose the vote, they will still retain power by putting party bosses in all the relevant positions necessary to decide the winner. And putting the kibosh on this commission is all about ensuring that people have forgotten how close that effort came to succeeding come Nov 2022.

And we’ll just have to keep fighting.

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Belafon  May 28, 2021 • 1:29:34pm

re: #94 jaunte

Then wear your mask.

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jaunte  May 28, 2021 • 1:30:07pm

re: #97 Belafon

TIRUNNY!

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 1:30:44pm

re: #97 Belafon

Then wear your mask.

If they don’t want me to shed dangerous vaccine on them, they better wear masks and socially distance!

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Belafon  May 28, 2021 • 1:31:31pm

re: #91 No Malarkey!

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Cowardly Republicans aren’t contributing anything except making Liz Cheney at least look patriotic.

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Charles Johnson  May 28, 2021 • 1:31:34pm
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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  May 28, 2021 • 1:31:37pm

re: #94 jaunte

Strip center retail trolling.
nashvilleguru.com

I miss the days when people didn’t think it was cute to be an asshole

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 1:31:45pm

re: #94 jaunte

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Strip center retail trolling.
nashvilleguru.com

Nothing says white privilege like using the suffering of others as a fashion accessory.

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steve_davis  May 28, 2021 • 1:35:17pm

A year after lockdown, I begin trying on business attire—not because I work in business, but because I would not be caught dead in a church service in jeans or shorts. (Actually I had to wear the stretchable jeans two weeks ago because I discovered that during the year of not having been worn, everything had shrunk two sizes. My 32 pants were now clearly a 30. My 15 shirts were obviously a 13. So long story short, the 16 shirts I ordered from Charles Thyrwhitt fit perfectly. The cheap-assed Amazon slacks, fitted for some fat guy who has a 34 waist, but is now living inside my 32 body, work fine. Had to go to Walmart and buy a 36 belt, just to be sure.

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Teddy's Person  May 28, 2021 • 1:35:54pm

Just some tourists in need of some heavy weapons.

Hours before Senate Republicans killed an independent commission to investigate the Jan. 6th siege, federal prosecutors disclosed communications about how Oath Keepers allegedly plotted to storm Washington, D.C. with guns by boat by way of the Potomac River.

Those discussions became public in a filing seeking to maintain the strict pretrial release conditions of Oath Keepers member Thomas Caldwell, whom prosecutors allege organized a group of militia members on “standby with guns in a hotel across the river.” In the brief, prosecutors also alleged that a message from the militia’s leader described a “worst case scenario” where former President Donald Trump “calls us up as part of the militia to to assist him inside DC.”

The alleged Oath Keepers plot to ferry heavy weapons across the Potomac River on a boat was previously reported by the New York Times in February, but prosecutors first made new evidence supporting that claim public on the day Trump’s Republican Party blocked independent scrutiny into the attack.

According to the government’s eight-page brief, the 65-year-old Caldwell allegedly answered Meggs’s call by asking a member of another militia group about procuring a boat for their so-called “quick reaction force,” or QRF. Law & Crime

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 1:38:26pm

“Being unvaccinated is just like being a Jew during the Holocaust!”

“So laws have been passed to rob you of your rights and freedoms?”

“Well no, but…”

“How about your businesses have been vandalized and then taken from you just as you finished rebuilding?”

“No, but…”

“Well, surely you’ve seen your fellow unvaccinated Americans drug into the streets and shot in the middle of the night, with all those who are vaccinated looking on in either mute horror or quiet approval?”

“Of course not!”

“So then how you are you just like the Jews during the Holocaust?”

“BECAUSE PEOPLE MAKE ME FEEL BAD FOR BEING A SELFISH ASSHOLE, WHICH IS MY RIGHT AS A WHITE AMERICAN!!!”

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Dopamine Fish  May 28, 2021 • 1:39:52pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

They would argue that first part, since of course they’re “forced” to wear a mask if they’re unvaccinated, which is clearly violating their rights and freedoms. And yes, we all know and understand differently, but that’s the alternate reality that they have constructed for themselves. So, yes, to them, the United States is indeed on the first steps down the road to treating the unvaccinated like they want to treat the Jews.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 28, 2021 • 1:41:21pm

This is not my granddaughter’s wedding party, or maybe it was since I didn’t go in the men’s section during last nights festivities.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 1:41:46pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

The “raw politics” is that the GQP are bound and determined to make sure that last November never happens again. That no matter how badly they lose the vote, they will still retain power by putting party bosses in all the relevant positions necessary to decide the winner. And putting the kibosh on this commission is all about ensuring that people have forgotten how close that effort came to succeeding come Nov 2022.

exactly
they will cheat but they will try to make it look like it’s the system working as it should - ‘all nice and legal’

if that’s not the rawest of raw politics, then I am Leslie Howard

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austin_blue  May 28, 2021 • 1:44:37pm

re: #40 Belafon

Is that Noah Wylie (?sp) in the suit?

Yup.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 1:46:08pm

re: #99 No Malarkey!

If they don’t want me to shed dangerous vaccine on them, they better wear masks and socially distance!

“SARS-CoV-2 is a very infectious virus. If you are not vaccinated and congregate in groups, you are going to get it. I suspect that almost everyone (or at least enough to get to herd immunity) [in the US] will either get vaccinated or they will get COVID in the next few months. I am hoping that the numbers drop significantly by the end of the summer.

So, what do we do now? First, recognize that the CDC guidelines are what they think they can talk us into, and not necessarily what is safe…”

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nines09  May 28, 2021 • 1:48:16pm

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 1:50:23pm
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Teddy's Person  May 28, 2021 • 1:53:57pm

re: #112 nines09

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 1:56:24pm

re: #113 No Malarkey!

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Yet none of us really believe for a second that if the GQP win back the Senate next year, they will agree with Manchin and allow the filibuster to remain unmolested.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 1:57:05pm

re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg

We’re never going to find out what really fucking happened on 1/6 are we?

Republicans will NOT co-operate with any Democratic investigation or inquiry.

As noted in #35 above, it appears that Nancy Pelosi is going to steam ahead in the US House.

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nines09  May 28, 2021 • 1:58:28pm

re: #114 Teddy’s Person

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Teddy's Person  May 28, 2021 • 2:01:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 2:02:22pm

re: #94 jaunte

Linked in the Twitter thread is the woman’s Facebook profile.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 2:03:29pm

re: #107 Dopamine Fish

They would argue that first part, since of course they’re “forced” to wear a mask if they’re unvaccinated, which is clearly violating their rights and freedoms. And yes, we all know and understand differently, but that’s the alternate reality that they have constructed for themselves. So, yes, to them, the United States is indeed on the first steps down the road to treating the unvaccinated like they want to treat the Jews.

except no one was forced
nonmaskers were not rounded up en masse
they were not locked up by the thousands
alternative accommodations were made almost everywhere for people who ‘chose’ not to mask to buy food and get other services

what they were was ‘inconvenienced’
for a time
because of a choice they made not to cooperate

so rather than protect themselves, their families and the rest of their fellow citizens, they all sat down in the mud and whined ‘i wont wear a mask because you’re not the boss of me’

and it is truly amazing that so many people try so hard to wear a mask wrong.
wow, you sure showed me and yeah you look less foolish with your nose out, or around your chin or hanging from one ear, or, or, or, than if you just grew the fuck up and wore it.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 28, 2021 • 2:03:50pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

After more than 20 years on the internet, my super-power is now sea lion detection.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 2:12:56pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 28, 2021 • 2:15:26pm

Well went up to the C-Store to grab some beer. Got a few nasty looks and muttered comments. Wonder what they saw that upset them?

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DesertDenizen  May 28, 2021 • 2:15:40pm

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The GOP hasn’t stood for anything other than power since at least the 90s. I’m in my 40s and I don’t recall them having an actual idea since at least the Clinton years.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 2:16:30pm

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Tom Nichols blocked this person for this post:

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William Lewis  May 28, 2021 • 2:16:58pm

re: #124 DesertDenizen

The GOP hasn’t stood for anything other than power since at least the 90s. I’m in my 40s and I don’t recall them having an actual idea since at least the Clinton years.

That’s not a bad thing: When they get ideas (Reagan, Contract Against America) things get worse fast.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 2:17:34pm

re: #124 DesertDenizen

The GOP hasn’t stood for anything other than power since at least the 90s. I’m in my 40s and I don’t recall them having an actual idea since at least the Clinton years.

I’m twenty years older and haven’t seen an idea from them other than tax cuts and grasping power before you were born then.

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Orange Impostor  May 28, 2021 • 2:18:03pm

What needs to be emphasized about today’s vote is that not only do Republicans not want to see the events of January 6 investigated, but are giving a green light to the next group of MAGAs, QAnons, Proud Boys, white nationalists, and other general fascist insurrectionists to stage another armed coup attempt on those they consider enemies of the party. A violent overthrow of democracy is not just acceptable, but is now the overtly stated goal.

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 2:19:32pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2021 • 2:21:12pm

re: #105 Teddy’s Person

Just some tourists in need of some heavy weapons.

QRF

Boy, they’re really hiding that well, aren’t they?

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DesertDenizen  May 28, 2021 • 2:21:39pm

re: #126 William Lewis

That’s not a bad thing: When they get ideas (Reagan, Contract Against America) things get worse fast.

I don’t consider those ideas. I mean something constructive that will benefit the majority of the citizens.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 2:23:06pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

See also the ACA

Clinton tried to get Republicans to support 1993 budget deal.
After several months, Ds had to go alone.

Obama tried to get Republicans to agree to ACA.
after months of delay, Ds had to enact it all with D-votes.

infrastructure will be this all over again, if they can corral the dem ‘rogues’

further as we’ve said, the R’s are not negotiating in good faith and everyone knows it

Biden proposes $2.2 trillion. R’s offer $150 billion.
Biden drops to $1.7t. R’s counter with $250 billion.
Both R ‘offers” included mostly existing spending or stealing it from covid relief or likely cutting the budget elsewhere (they just didnt get that far in the ‘negotiations’ yet)

and they STILL don’t have 10 R votes

R’s won concessions re the ACA and STILL no one voted for it

NOT THIS TIME!
GO BACK TO the $2.2T and i dont give a rat’s ass what the republican definition of ‘infrastructure’ is

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BeenHereAwhile  May 28, 2021 • 2:24:23pm

re: #123 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well went up to the C-Store to grab some beer. Got a few nasty looks and muttered comments. Wonder what they saw that upset them?
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If someone says something about being masked, tell them you’ve been tested for COVID and don’t want to possibly infect them.

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 2:24:51pm

Just got Kentucky’s Covid incidence map, and it’s showing huge improvement. Just one critical red colored county this week, and a bunch of green counties (less than 1 daily case per 100k residents).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 2:26:01pm

LOL

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jaunte  May 28, 2021 • 2:26:41pm

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Political conservatism has always been a euphemism for “might makes right.”

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Belafon  May 28, 2021 • 2:27:03pm

re: #134 No Malarkey!

Just got Kentucky’s Covid incidence map, and it’s showing huge improvement. Just one critical red colored county this week, and a bunch of green counties (less than 1 daily case per 100k residents).

I expect in conservative states like Texas and Kentucky (which I will be in Lexington next Friday, Saturday, and part of Sunday to see my oldest son), cases will go down mainly because of summer, and then they are going to get a lot worse for the unvaccinated in the fall and winter.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 2:27:37pm
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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 2:27:41pm

re: #129 No Malarkey!

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And before Trump, they were “afraid” of the TPers. And before that, they were “afraid” of Dubya supporters. The party is always “afraid,” but what it’s about losing power. They’ve seen “rising stars” cut down through primary challenges, only for their opponents to then lose because they lack that incumbent advantage that keeps the “politicians” in office.

McCarthy and McConnell aren’t afraid of Trump, they’re afraid that Trump will cost them seats next year. So they’re willing to give him a quick tug if it’ll keep his focus elsewhere.

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No Malarkey!  May 28, 2021 • 2:30:13pm

re: #137 Belafon

I expect in conservative states like Texas and Kentucky (which I will be in Lexington next Friday, Saturday, and part of Sunday to see my oldest son), cases will go down mainly because of summer, and then they are going to get a lot worse for the unvaccinated in the fall and winter.

With a Democratic Governor, we are doing better about getting vaccinated than more southern states. Counties in the Bluegrass region of Central Kentucky are about 60% vaccinated now.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  May 28, 2021 • 2:30:58pm

re: #134 No Malarkey!

Just got Kentucky’s Covid incidence map, and it’s showing huge improvement. Just one critical red colored county this week, and a bunch of green counties (less than 1 daily case per 100k residents).

From what I’ve been hearing the data is starting to show that the vaccines do stop transmission as well as infection. The concern that they wouldn’t seems to not be panning out thankfully. There seems to be data pointing to all of the big 4 vaccines working “well enough” against all known variants so far too.

This is probably the only reason that the Stupid-o-sphere isn’t getting us in deep shit now.

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 2:31:39pm

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL

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I look at Joe Manchin and the name “Sisyphus” comes immediately to mind.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 28, 2021 • 2:37:11pm

re: #142 Targetpractice

I look at Joe Manchin and the name “Sisyphus” comes immediately to mind.

Suspect some Democratic party members would rather he be chained to a rock and have an eagle feed on his liver.

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DesertDenizen  May 28, 2021 • 2:38:05pm

re: #143 BeenHereAwhile

Suspect some Democratic party members would rather he be chained to a rock and have an eagle feed on his liver.

Killing the filibuster would be a gift on par with fire.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  May 28, 2021 • 2:38:49pm

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I think Liz should be in charge of forfeited MAGA property disposal a few years down the road. Once those pickups are cleansed of Trump stickers, cow catchers and fake armor, they could be auctioned off to contractors in the new infrastructure projects.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 28, 2021 • 2:39:03pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

Yet none of us really believe for a second that if the GQP win back the Senate next year, they will agree with Manchin and allow the filibuster to remain unmolested.

Actually, I believe it. All they want to do is obstruct legislation, confirm judges, and pass tax cuts. Filibuster not needed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2021 • 2:41:25pm

re: #134 No Malarkey!

Just got Kentucky’s Covid incidence map, and it’s showing huge improvement. Just one critical red colored county this week, and a bunch of green counties (less than 1 daily case per 100k residents).

Mine is in the bottom five

sigh

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 2:41:41pm

The GOP is getting dragged.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  May 28, 2021 • 2:44:04pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Aside from the complete horseshit that is, I really wish they would stop referring to China as “Communist China”.

There’s nothing Communist about China anymore. This is like calling North Korea “Democratic Korea” because they have the word in the official name of the country.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 2:45:46pm

Suddenly the GOP will care about deficits again.

To be clear, economists said this would happen because of the pandemic anyway. The only difference is where the money goes (GOP donors, or everyone else).

Interestingly, Pres. Biden is taking aim on repealing the Hyde Amendment.

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nines09  May 28, 2021 • 2:46:16pm

re: #123 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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William Lewis  May 28, 2021 • 2:46:26pm

re: #131 DesertDenizen

I don’t consider those ideas. I mean something constructive that will benefit the majority of the citizens.

Oh, that ended in 1877

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 28, 2021 • 2:46:44pm

re: #143 BeenHereAwhile

Suspect some Democratic party members would rather he be chained to a rock and have an eagle feed on his liver.

That was Prometheus. Sisyphus had to push a rock uphill forever. Every time he got it to the top, it escaped him and fell to the bottom.

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Targetpractice  May 28, 2021 • 2:47:08pm

re: #149 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Aside from the complete horseshit that is, I really wish they would stop referring to China as “Communist China”.

There’s nothing Communist about China anymore. This is like calling North Korea “Democratic Korea” because they have the word in the official name of the country.

Archer - North Korea

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jaunte  May 28, 2021 • 2:47:29pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This would be the China that a lot of Adelson and Walton money came from?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2021 • 2:47:30pm

re: #153 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

That was Prometheus. Sisyphus had to push a rock uphill forever. Every time he got it to the top, it escaped him and fell to the bottom.

Kind of like Lucy and the football, huh?

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 2:49:19pm

re: #145 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I think Liz should be in charge of forfeited MAGA property disposal a few years down the road. Once those pickups are cleansed of Trump stickers, cow catchers and fake armor*, they could be auctioned off to contractors in the new infrastructure projects.

* and converted to electric

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 28, 2021 • 2:50:00pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

Kind of like Lucy and the football, huh?

Except that Sisyphus knew that this was never going to change.

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 2:51:31pm

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Suddenly the GOP will care about deficits again.

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To be clear, economists said this would happen because of the pandemic anyway. The only difference is where the money goes* (GOP donors, or everyone else).

Interestingly, Pres. Biden is taking aim on repealing the Hyde Amendment.

*and who doles it out

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 2:53:12pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

Kind of like Lucy and the football, huh?

schulz was a philosopher

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 2:55:00pm

re: #158 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Except that Sisyphus knew that this was never going to change.

Kind of like Kevin Kruse.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 28, 2021 • 2:55:04pm

re: #155 jaunte

Twenty years ago China had very few supercomputers compared to us. Now they have over twice as many and lead the Top 500.

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William Lewis  May 28, 2021 • 2:56:10pm

re: #160 Dangerman

schulz was a philosopher

True enough though where Sisyphus is concerned, I prefer Camus…
“One must imagine Sisyphus happy. “

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EPR-radar  May 28, 2021 • 2:56:38pm

re: #131 DesertDenizen

I don’t consider those ideas. I mean something constructive that will benefit the majority of the citizens.

Republicans haven’t had an idea like that since the days of Teddy Roosevelt.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 2:57:03pm
166
DesertDenizen  May 28, 2021 • 2:57:41pm

Regarding the filibuster, I understand Manchin, even if I believe he is misguided and hope that McConnell has finally overplayed his hand. But what I don’t understand is Sinema. I voted for her, but she has been nothing like what she was portrayed, be either side. I can’t for the life of me figure out her motivation or thought processes on muchnof anything.

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EPR-radar  May 28, 2021 • 2:58:55pm

re: #146 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Actually, I believe it. All they want to do is obstruct legislation, confirm judges, and pass tax cuts. Filibuster not needed.

If Republicans end the filibuster, then any GOP Congress would spend all its time repealing Social Security, Medicare etc., and the few remaining Republicans capable of rational thought don’t want to do that before the GOP dictatorship is in place.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 28, 2021 • 2:59:04pm

re: #166 DesertDenizen

Regarding the filibuster, I understand Manchin, even if I believe he is misguided and hope that McConnell has finally overplayed his hand. But what I don’t understand is Sinema. I voted for her, but she has been nothing like what she was portrayed, be either side. I can’t for the life of me figure out her motivation or thought processes on muchnof anything.

Making a performance of voting down the minimum wage increase was just sickening.

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DesertDenizen  May 28, 2021 • 2:59:05pm

re: #163 William Lewis

True enough though where Sisyphus is concerned, I prefer Camus…
“One must imagine Sisyphus happy. “

I struggle to see how Sisyphus is happy despite wading through Camus. I think his hell is indeed hell.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 28, 2021 • 2:59:52pm

re: #149 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Aside from the complete horseshit that is, I really wish they would stop referring to China as “Communist China”.

There’s nothing Communist about China anymore. This is like calling North Korea “Democratic Korea” because they have the word in the official name of the country.

We’ve been calling people “Communist” and destroying their lives, and their countries, for about 75 years.

It’s disgusting, but it’s a pretty good tactic given the larger culture.

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DesertDenizen  May 28, 2021 • 3:00:24pm

re: #168 The Pie Overlord!

Making a performance of voting down the minimum wage increase was just sickening.

That’s a prime example. She comes across as a performance artist, but I can’t see what she’s trying to portray. It isn’t even nihilism. It’s completely devoid of pattern.

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Mike Lamb  May 28, 2021 • 3:02:08pm

re: #166 DesertDenizen

Regarding the filibuster, I understand Manchin, even if I believe he is misguided and hope that McConnell has finally overplayed his hand. But what I don’t understand is Sinema. I voted for her, but she has been nothing like what she was portrayed, be either side. I can’t for the life of me figure out her motivation or thought processes on muchnof anything.

I was her constituent when she was elected to the House of Reps. Moved away before she became senator. She’s really disappointing.

The Senate is inherently anti-democratic. Then you layer in the filibuster, which just pushes the anti-democratic nature of the Senate to 11. It’s insane.

(Sure, the argument is it can help the majority of the country put the brakes on tyranny of the minority if the GOP are in control, but it is never used that way in any appreciable fashion).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 3:02:18pm

Anti-Democratic Conservatism Isn’t New (The Bulwark)

Conservatives’ theoretical arguments against democracy have long provided ammunition for opponents of reform.

The lede:

“Now let me say that I, for one, would not willingly die for ‘democracy.’” So wrote William F. Buckley, the patron saint of American conservatism, in 1959. “Democracy is nothing more than a procedural device aimed at institutionalizing political liberty,” he continued. “It has no program. It cannot say to its supporters: do thus, and ye shall arrive at the promised land.” Buckley’s skepticism toward democracy manifested throughout his career, from his earliest writings to his last years as a political commentator.

The conservative political movement Buckley championed shared his ambivalence about democracy. The refrain “the United States is a republic, not a democracy” is part of this tradition. A few scholars have tried, following the example of the conservative political philosopher Martin Diamond, to popularize the term “democratic republic” for the American system—one in which the people participate and elect their representatives, who ultimately make decisions—but the term never really caught on outside of conservative circles, maybe because it is too confusing, or maybe because “democratic republic” perversely sounds too much like the name of a dictatorship, like the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea or the old German Democratic Republic.

A comprehensive history of the attitudes of American conservatives toward democracy would excavate source material at least as far back as the Founding and the American response to the French Revolution. But for present purposes, focusing on just the twentieth century and after, it is clear that there is a strong undercurrent of anti-democratic thought in American conservatism. And when the politics have been convenient, many conservatives have used their critiques of democracy to justify authoritarian regimes or deny citizens the vote on racial grounds in the United States and abroad. Which is to say that the democracy-denying beliefs and actions of today’s conservative Republican party—rejecting the results of the 2020 presidential election and seeking to manipulate voting laws nationwide in a cynical assault on the democratic process—have plentiful precedent in conservative history.

(more)

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BeenHereAwhile  May 28, 2021 • 3:04:16pm

re: #169 DesertDenizen

I struggle to see how Sisyphus is happy despite wading through Camus. I think his hell is indeed hell.

Beats being chained to a rock and an eagle eating your liver.

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EPR-radar  May 28, 2021 • 3:05:06pm

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Of course conservatism is in conflict with democracy. Conservatism is all about defining an in-group (who rule) and an out-group (who are ruled).

That’s intrinsically anti-democratic.

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DesertDenizen  May 28, 2021 • 3:06:35pm

re: #172 Mike Lamb

I was her constituent when she was elected to the House of Reps. Moved away before she became senator. She’s really disappointing.

The Senate is inherently anti-democratic. Then you layer in the filibuster, which just pushes the anti-democratic nature of the Senate to 11. It’s insane.

(Sure, the argument is it can help the majority of the country put the brakes on tyranny of the minority if the GOP are in control, but it is never used that way in any appreciable fashion).

But what is she trying to accomplish? That’s what I don’t get. She’s Chaotic Neutral veering into Chaotic Stupid. Manic Pixie Dream Girl isn’t a governing philosophy.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 28, 2021 • 3:07:22pm

The list of people who’ve been to space and prison has to be very short.

James Halsell Jr: Former astronaut pleads guilty to killing two young sisters in car crash (Sky News)

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DesertDenizen  May 28, 2021 • 3:08:06pm

re: #174 BeenHereAwhile

Beats being chained to a rock and an eagle eating your liver.

True. But at least we got something from Prometheus whereas Sisyphus was punished for hubris.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 3:10:39pm

re: #175 EPR-radar

Of course conservatism is in conflict with democracy. Conservatism is all about defining an in-group (who rule) and an out-group (who are ruled).

That’s intrinsically anti-democratic.

Further down:

Likewise, the conservative thinker and historian Russell Kirk, citing Edmund Burke, asserted “Majority rule is no more a natural right than is equality.” Intelligent democrats, Kirk wrote, justify democracy “not in a natural law of equality, but in expediency.”

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BeenHereAwhile  May 28, 2021 • 3:12:24pm

re: #178 DesertDenizen

True. But at least we got something from Prometheus whereas Sisyphus was punished for hubris.

//

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  May 28, 2021 • 3:13:23pm

re: #177 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The list of people who’ve been to space and prison has to be very short.

James Halsell Jr: Former astronaut pleads guilty to killing two young sisters in car crash (Sky News)

I thought maybe Nowak did some time but can’t find evidence she did.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 3:16:39pm

re: #181 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I thought maybe Nowak did some time but can’t find evidence she did.

She was given a year’s probation and fifty hours of community service.

cnn.com

She also was required to write an apology letter, because forced apologies are always the most sincere.

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A Three Hour Tour  May 28, 2021 • 3:17:17pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From the previous thread:

For some reason, Anymouse’s take of Wal-Mart’s mistreatment of his friend and it’s refusal to let her take time off work to mourn refuses to be quoted.

According to my brother who put in eight years at Walmart, by the time our father died in 2015, Walmart’s policy was that employees were entitled to three days of bereavement leave. He says that *if* his managers had to get special permission from Bentonville to let him off work to fly from New Mexico to Virginia for the funeral and back - in fact, he took a fourth day off to get back - he was never told about it and no one gave him any shit about it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 3:19:54pm

re: #183 A Three Hour Tour

For some reason, Anymouse’s take of Wal-Mart’s mistreatment of his friend and it’s refusal to let her take time off work to mourn refuses to be quoted.

According to my brother who put in eight years at Walmart, by the time our father died in 2015, Walmart’s policy was that employees were entitled to three days of bereavement leave. He says that *if* his managers had to get special permission from Bentonville to let him off work to fly from New Mexico to Virginia for the funeral and back - in fact, he took a fourth day off to get back - he was never told about it and no one gave him any shit about it.

For her that was back in 2009 or so.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 3:20:57pm

Thread, eight tweets on the use of the filibuster.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 28, 2021 • 3:29:19pm

I’m off for a nap. I’ll see y’all later.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 28, 2021 • 3:29:19pm

So… anyone have any tips on living in a fascist theocracy? ‘Cause I’m pretty sure that’s what’s coming. If anyone wants to talk me off the ledge, I’m here for that as well.

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gwangung  May 28, 2021 • 3:29:55pm

re: #187 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

So… anyone have any tips on living in a fascist theocracy? ‘Cause I’m pretty sure that’s what’s coming. If anyone wants to talk me off the ledge, I’m here for that as well.

No, we’re going to be living in a civil war zone.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  May 28, 2021 • 3:34:14pm

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She was given a year’s probation and fifty hours of community service.

cnn.com

She also was required to write an apology letter, because forced apologies are always the most sincere.

She’s definitely on a short list of people who went to Annapolis, the Naval Postgraduate School, crewed electronic warfare aircraft, became astronauts, went into space and then destroyed their lives in one ridiculously stupid incident and are now unemployable.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  May 28, 2021 • 3:43:31pm

Huh? I wonder if this has anything to do with the cow worshippers on that list of hell-bound heathens I posted earlier?

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William Lewis  May 28, 2021 • 3:48:27pm

re: #187 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

So… anyone have any tips on living in a fascist theocracy? ‘Cause I’m pretty sure that’s what’s coming. If anyone wants to talk me off the ledge, I’m here for that as well.

Buy a rifle and a handgun in common calibers, practice. Let the Goobers at the range think you’re one of them.

Get an old boy scout hand book and get practiced on your field craft. The Ranger Handbook tc3-21-76 is also of great value in these circumstances.

Learn how a cell based organization works.

Learn how to use TOR (the onion router) for secure communications. Keep it on an encrypted USB stick.

Remember they think that only they have guns and only they will fight. The thought that in 1860 too.

192
Broad With Sass  May 28, 2021 • 3:53:34pm

re: #36 sagehen

I can’t wait…just finished a Leverage binge on IMDB

193
A Three Hour Tour  May 28, 2021 • 3:59:11pm

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

For her that was back in 2009 or so.

My brother started at Walmart in late May, 2011. He has since read your account. He says:

“Bentonville didn’t have to approve anything. The whole time I worked there, there was an automated 1-800 associate information line that you could call into to, among other things, report absences. With bereavement being one of the reasons on the menu. Bereavement was considered an excused absence. You could have so many unexcused absences in a rolling 6 month period (I can’t remember the exact number) before termination entered the picture.”

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Florida Panhandler  May 28, 2021 • 4:00:05pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

During the next violent coup against Congress in a few years, numerous Republican Congress members will actively and quite openly lead terrorists right to where Democratic Congress members are hiding, with the help of complicit individual police and Secret Service providing safe passage.

Republicans involved with the coup will have prepared video presentations with demands and they will feel the majority of the country supports them.

House Democrats need to take no prisoners with an investigation and consider ALL Republicans as complicit. If this country is to go down into the abyss of dictatorship, at least do us a favor and go down swinging.

195
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 28, 2021 • 4:05:36pm

Yes, it’s dry out west and dry it will be:

Climate update and summer outlook - NWS San Diego



..

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 28, 2021 • 4:27:05pm

re: #169 DesertDenizen

I struggle to see how Sisyphus is happy despite wading through Camus. I think his hell is indeed hell.

It’s like having a very routine day job. You know you can do it, and since it’s completely mindless, your mind is free to do other things (not Camus’ reason probably, it’s been a very long time since I read him).

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Ace Rothstein  May 28, 2021 • 4:27:18pm

re: #77 No Malarkey!

It’s almost as if Manchin never saw it coming.
//

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Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 4:29:46pm

Arizona Republic: “The Arizona Senate, apparently not satisfied with one recount, is close to signing a deal for its second review of Maricopa County’s 2020 general election ballots.”

“The effort would expand the ongoing audit and is expected to use a new and largely untested technology.”

Meanwhile, a new HighGround poll finds Arizonans oppose the auditing of Maricopa County ballots from 2020, 55% to 40%.

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DesertDenizen  May 28, 2021 • 4:32:02pm

re: #196 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

It’s like having a very routine day job. You know you can do it, and since it’s completely mindless, your mind is free to do other things (not Camus’ reason probably, it’s been a very long time since I read him).

I’ve had those jobs. They were hell.

200
Ace Rothstein  May 28, 2021 • 4:33:48pm

re: #198 Dangerman

Paid for by the Arizona taxpayers. Enjoy.

201
Dangerman  May 28, 2021 • 4:34:12pm

narrowly tailored bill
easier to justify axing the filibuster maybe

So here’s an idea

stop fretting about HR-1, which is a wonderful political reform bill but doesn’t actually prevent an electoral coup by Republicans in any meaningful way.

Pass an update to the Electoral Count Act of 1877 that clearly states that (i) the House cannot reject electoral results from a state certified by applicable state law and (ii) no state legislature may overrule a determination by duly elected or appointed state and local election officials in any federal election.

That solves the immediate threat or a GOP Congress in 2024 refusing to certify Biden’s re-election or of statehouse Republicans overruling local boards of elections as part of the vote certification process in a state.

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DesertDenizen  May 28, 2021 • 4:36:24pm

re: #200 Ace Rothstein

Paid for by the Arizona taxpayers. Enjoy.

Fuck. Like Phoenix doesn’t already steal enough of our money in the rest of the state.

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Ace Rothstein  May 28, 2021 • 4:40:22pm

re: #202 DesertDenizen

I guarantee you these contracts for these “recounts” are more ironclad than a cell phone contract. The companies running them probably have so many stipulations and protections from having to return the money, it’s a goddamned license to steal.

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plansbandc  May 28, 2021 • 4:40:44pm

re: #187 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I need to be talked off the ledge too. At this point, I don’t feel it makes any difference if I vote in national elections or not.

205
Ace Rothstein  May 28, 2021 • 4:42:13pm

re: #204 plansbandc

All by design. Do not fall for that trap. Vote.

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Belafon  May 28, 2021 • 4:43:34pm

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Reading through the replies, and when someone said name a liberal conspiracy, people replied BlueAnon. I have never heard of that, so I told someone that it’s a right wing conspiracy.

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Barefoot Grin  May 28, 2021 • 4:43:44pm

re: #190 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Huh? I wonder if this has anything to do with the cow worshippers on that list of hell-bound heathens I posted earlier?

[Embedded content]

Gary Larson warned us about about mischievous cows long ago.

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plansbandc  May 28, 2021 • 4:45:45pm

re: #205 Ace Rothstein

The Dems do less than nothing.

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PrydonianRenegade  May 28, 2021 • 4:46:15pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

… I hate Walmart as much as anyone, but I have to call BS on this story.

Actually, I probably hate Walmart MORE than most people. I hate Walmart the way only an ex-employee can. I worked at a Walmart in New Mexico from May 2011 to February 2018.

In January 2015, my father died. I was actually at work when I received the news, in the Accounting Office—a position that doesn’t exist anymore, but at the time had perhaps the least built in redundancy in the store. My father lived back in Virginia, where I grew up. My middle brother, who still lived in Virginia, was the one who called the store, and apparently explained the situation to management before talking to me. Management pulled me out of the office, to give me privacy to take the call when I got to speak to my brother. Management immediately released me for the rest of the day, and raised no issues with my flying home to Virginia for the funeral.

While there were definitely excused and unexcused absences, at least during the period of time I worked there, all employees were entitled to three days of Bereavement Leave for the loss of an immediate family member, which was paid time off. In my case, it took me an extra day than I’d planned to return to work, for which I was *not* paid, but was given no pushback by management for taking.

Also, while there was certainly the option of calling the store directly, there was also an automated 1-800 Associate Information line that existed, among other things, for the purposes of calling in to report an absence, with Bereavement being one of the options.

I also have difficulty believing the police would go to the store for such a reason.

This story just doesn’t pass the smell test to me. And with all the *legitimate* reasons that exist to hate Walmart, it isn’t necessary to invent inflammatory imaginary reasons as well.

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Barefoot Grin  May 28, 2021 • 4:51:46pm

re: #208 plansbandc

The Dems do less than nothing.

They don’t seem to get that the field has shifted. If they are fearing their constituents, that’s a false fear—nearly everyone wants something done. Hell, in some ways the governor of WV is more forward thinking than Manchin now. If Manchin and Sinema’s instincts are right—they’ll inflame anti-change voters—then they’ll lose either way. They have to go all in.

Or, the Bernie bros are right and they are simply beholden to corporate interests.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 28, 2021 • 4:52:35pm

re: #187 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

So… anyone have any tips on living in a fascist theocracy? ‘Cause I’m pretty sure that’s what’s coming. If anyone wants to talk me off the ledge, I’m here for that as well.

Nah. No need for that, we’re done.

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plansbandc  May 28, 2021 • 4:56:36pm

re: #210 Barefoot Grin

I may be becoming a leftist. :(

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Belafon  May 28, 2021 • 5:11:47pm
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plansbandc  May 28, 2021 • 5:24:11pm

Using yellow stars to indicate being unvaxxed is the most disgusting thing I’ve seen R’s do. And that’s saying a lot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2021 • 5:26:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2021 • 5:28:32pm

moved to upstairs

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steve_davis  May 28, 2021 • 5:29:16pm

re: #213 Belafon

[Embedded content]

yeah, but imagine how much smaller that rock was 2500 years ago.

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austin_blue  May 28, 2021 • 5:38:28pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Can you explain to me why you would need to detect a Sea Lion? We’re hard to miss! Please explain?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2021 • 5:40:51pm

re: #209 PrydonianRenegade

welcome hatchling! And please excuse the mess here, but we are lizards after all.


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