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Instant stone (just add water), Roots of Progress, https://rootsofprogress.org/instant-stone-just-add-water
https://rootsofprogress.org/cement-redux

Cement Chemistry and Sustainable Cementitious Materials
https://www.youtube.com/@cementchemistryandsustaina9629

Ahmad, S., Lawan, A., & Al-Osta, M. (2020). Effect of sugar dosage on setting time, microstructure and strength of Type I and Type V Portland cements. Case Studies in Construction Materials, 13, e00364. – https://ve42.co/Ahmad2020

Seymour, L. M., Maragh, J., Sabatini, P., Di Tommaso, M., Weaver, J. C., & Masic, A. (2023). Hot mixing: Mechanistic insights into the durability of ancient Roman concrete. Science advances, 9(1), eadd1602. — https://ve42.co/Seymour2023

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:57:53pm

Mastodon

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:03:33pm
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A Cranky One  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:07:03pm

And no Stairway to Heaven on guitar.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:08:17pm

Watching the cement level climb up to this guy’s chest is triggering my claustrophobia.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:10:58pm

re: #255 ckkatz

Copied forward because I got behind.

The reverse osmosis unit filters do need to be replaced. The home units the village bought need them changed annually. Culligan provided the new r/o units and they change and dispose of them under contract annually. Because the filters take out hazardous materials (arsenic and uranium), Culligan disposes of them through a hazmat service.

As for the small amount of wastewater produced by the r/o units, that is shunted into the sewage system.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:11:11pm
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sizzzzlerz  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:16:18pm

re: #3 A Cranky One

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And no Stairway to Heaven on guitar.

How about Smoke on the Water? Any issue with that?

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William Lewis  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:16:38pm

re: #3 A Cranky One

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And no Stairway to Heaven on guitar.

I use “Dreaming” by Blondie. Three chords, dead simple and they haven’t heard it a billion times ;)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:17:29pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:22:37pm

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So why is it that Republicans are objecting to taking down statues and Dixie Swastikas?

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:25:15pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Getting a blue check to repeat “the Dems were the KKK” wheeze is like a triple letter score in Scrabble.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:28:16pm

re: #4 jaunte

Watching the cement level climb up to this guy’s chest is triggering my claustrophobia.

I’m claustrophobic too. I almost always get a little jittery in elevators. I take the stairs where possible.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:33:35pm

Mastodon

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:35:01pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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ckkatz  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:38:08pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Copied forward because I got behind.

Thanks!

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ckkatz  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:40:01pm

re: #13 Patricia Kayden

(Thread)

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retired cynic  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:48:39pm

re: #16 ckkatz

agree; he’s just nasty

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ckkatz  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:50:26pm

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ckkatz  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:53:10pm
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ckkatz  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:56:17pm

One more and then to let others have the podium -

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:57:48pm

They’re not laughing with me

Bright cat collars help protect birds, study finds (Times Colonist)

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:02:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:05:33pm

re: #22 Crush White Nationalism

Why is that something that we can’t imagine rightwing trolls? They’re thugs. See January 6th insurrection. Keep in mind that Conservatives have pushed the defunding of PBS for decades now. They would axe Sesame Street and all of its puppets if they could.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:14:19pm

re: #22 Crush White Nationalism

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Why is not buying a blue check “a political stand?” Maybe most people just think it’s dumb, and aren’t attached to that little blue check mark the way you thought they were? Why do you attach such significance to the act of paying your techbro douchecanoe messiah for the privilege of giving him your content?

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:16:02pm

Fuck’s sake, people. When are we finally going to have had enough?

Mastodon

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:17:00pm

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:39:08pm
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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:46:39pm

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:59:52pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:08:47pm

re: #3 A Cranky One

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Waynes World (‘92) - No stairway, denied

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:26:00pm

re: #29 DodgerFan1988

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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:42:08pm

re: #24 Nerdy Fish

Why is not buying a blue check “a political stand?” Maybe most people just think it’s dumb, and aren’t attached to that little blue check mark the way you thought they were? Why do you attach such significance to the act of paying your techbro douchecanoe messiah for the privilege of giving him your content?

They’re calling it a “political stand” because the only people who seem willing to go along with this bullshit are hardcore MAGAts and their army of bot followers who have spent years screaming that it was “unfair” that they couldn’t get them but [insert “librul” celebrity] got one without an issue.

It’s the same reason they’re confronting any celebrity or journalist who is speaking publicly about their refusal to pay for a mark and screaming that they’re “elitist” because they won’t pony up $8 a month for a now worthless mark.

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retired cynic  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:44:41pm

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Please allow me to introduce you to Jonathan Allen Frost, a 24 year old who lives just a few miles from where I live. Jonathan is in a mess of trouble.A Katy man was sentenced to spend five years in federal prison Friday over his role in a white supremacist plot to attack U.S. power grids.

In 2019, Jonathan Allen Frost, 24, planned an attack and recruited, trained and equipped other men with a gun and a “suicide necklace” containing fentanyl as part of the plot, the Justice Department said.

Jonathan is not your typical trailer trash insurrectionist. Jonathan lives in a house on a golf course currently valued at between $1.5 - $1.8 million. I highly suspect it’s his parent’s house because two other people in their 60s are registered to vote at that address.
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Under sentencing guidelines he could have gotten 15 years but he reached an agreement of five years, which means he’s white and lives in a ritzy house.

I think we should have let him know that he doesn’t have to mess with the power grid in Texas or fret over taking it down. The Governor does that for us in Texas. I do think that’s why his parents vote Republican.

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retired cynic  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:45:55pm

re: #33 retired cynic

refresh, to fix the weirdness…

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:53:41pm

The Four Lovers on The Ed Sullivan Show, 1956.

The lead singer is one “Frankie Valley”…

The Four Lovers (The Four Seasons) on The Ed Sullivan Show - May 6th 1956

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teleskiguy  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:15:14pm

Sitting Still

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:29:47pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:31:23pm

re: #32 Targetpractice

They’re calling it a “political stand” because the only people who seem willing to go along with this bullshit are hardcore MAGAts and their army of bot followers who have spent years screaming that it was “unfair” that they couldn’t get them but [insert “librul” celebrity] got one without an issue.

It’s the same reason they’re confronting any celebrity or journalist who is speaking publicly about their refusal to pay for a mark and screaming that they’re “elitist” because they won’t pony up $8 a month for a now worthless mark.

No matter how many times it’s explained to them, they don’t understand why the blue check has been rendered meaningless.

And for Monday’s Wordle: Birbie

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:35:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:36:57pm

re: #20 ckkatz

One more and then to let others have the podium -

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retired cynic  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:55:22pm

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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2023 • 11:27:34pm

re: #38 Hecuba’s daughter

No matter how many times it’s explained to them, they don’t understand why the blue check has been rendered meaningless.

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Best analogy I could think of was that of blue checkmarks before Musk taking over being like an exclusive restaurant in town where entrance was by invitation only. Every MAGAt “celebrity” that’s tried to get in over the years but been denied has added to this rumor that the management are all hardcore “libruls” and you have to be in with them in order to get inside no matter how “famous” you are. The rumor only gained greater fervor for every MAGAt that did manage an invite being kicked out and their status revoked.

Then Musk took over and he promised them that he was gonna end all that, that under his management nobody would be kicked out ever and some of those who had been were invited back. Didn’t matter that he was doing all the shit that they’d accused the past management of, like kicking others out for their views rather than their behavior or criticizing his management, the place was now hailed as a mecca of “freedom” for all. But you still could only get in with an invite and Musk promised to change that, not only ending the old system but making entry as simple as paying a $20 door charge.

Well the day came, the old system was declared “over” and all the sweaty gloryhounds who’d believed for years that they were being denied entry to a place that was rightfully theirs crowded the door with money in hand…only the place was empty of everybody but them. All the celebrities that they’d thought they’d be rubbing shoulders with had left, some of them in a very noisy manner on their way out the door, and management was so desperate to act like it wasn’t all a joke that they’d even put a few name placards out of people who couldn’t attend on account of being dead. Hell, management has even gone back on their word, giving out invitations to celebrities who made noise about not wanting to be there anymore just to give illusion that the place is still desirable to more than just the sort of assholes that used to frequent the local dive bars and fast food chains.

So now the once exclusive club is a lot emptier, the clientele shifted from famous celebrities to belching asshats, and management has allowed things to go to shit because the people willing to pay entry are also willing to put up with his bullshit. But what hasn’t changed is the belief of all that the legacy members of the club were “elitists” and “libruls,” it’s just now a belief that you’re both if you refuse to pay to enter a club that was invite-only because you’d actually done more to get in the door than pay $20.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:18:16am
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EPR-radar  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:19:22am

re: #42 Targetpractice

One thing this Twitter debacle is showing is the serious popularity of “my willful ignorance and stupidity is as good as the knowledge of an expert” attitude of bumptious stupidity.

It’s a common element of quack medicine, conspiracy theories, flat earthers, creationists, political policy cranks, and assorted other loons.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:22:39am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:23:57am
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ckkatz  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:25:58am

After the national publicity of some idiot shooting up a delivery driver’s car, the state attorney’s office finally released a statement.

According to the report - “Police closed the case without consulting the state attorney’s office.”

“Broward County State Attorney Harold Pryor issued a statement Sunday saying police investigators never contacted his office about the April 15 shooting in Southwest Ranches that put at least two bullets into the car driven by 19-year-old Waldes Thomas Jr., who was with his 18-year-old girlfriend, Diamond Darville.”

I’m not surprised. A lot of very big businesses, like Amazon, and the USPS depend upon delivery drivers. Shooting them would cost these companies money. That’s bad. Apparently the drivers themselves… Bummer, but, apparently they’re considered expendable.

The next question will be to see what happens to the shooter. Whether it is quietly dropped , or some sort of action is actually taken. It being Florida, and the victim being Afro-American, that’s an open question.

Probe ordered after Florida shooter fires at delivery driver

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:30:37am

Well then.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:30:50am

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

Fun fact: the counties Biden won account for 70% of the GDP of the US. The counties that went for Trump are the biggest drain on the economy and tout themselves as being rugged individualists while practicing what amounts to socialism.

If we were to truly “run America like a business” we would sell off those 30% of counties as “underperforming assets”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:32:38am

re: #11 jaunte

Getting a blue check to repeat “the Dems were the KKK” wheeze is like a triple letter score in Scrabble.

“The Nazis were socialists!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:33:55am

(24:12, one hour ago)

Cryptocurrencies II: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:41:12am

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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These are the sort of idiots who think being a cop is one of the most dangerous jobs in America when it rarely makes it into top 10 list of dangerous professions and never in top 5s. Or think that cops are constantly in danger of being shot which is why they have to treat every person they stop as an armed suspect, meanwhile the leading cause of death for cops is disease.

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ckkatz  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:49:36am

Well, time for bed -
Dad joke for the night:

My dad was born as a conjoined twin, but the doctors managed to separate them at birth.
I have an uncle, once removed.

And a few things to think about …

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:53:38am

re: #52 Targetpractice

These are the sort of idiots who think … that cops are constantly in danger of being shot which is why they have to treat every person they stop as an armed suspect, meanwhile the leading cause of death for cops is disease.

Police nonetheless have to live with that fear, especially in certain areas. The main issue I have is the fallacious notion that more cops = better police protection.

They neglect the factor of training and integrity. Police get around 600 hours of training in the USA, double that in Canada, double that again in the UK and double that again in Germany.

Odd when you see that the number of police hootings per capita is nearly an inverse of that

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 1:04:48am

re: #44 EPR-radar

One thing this Twitter debacle is showing is the serious popularity of “my willful ignorance and stupidity is as good as the knowledge of an expert” attitude of bumptious stupidity.

It’s a common element of quack medicine, conspiracy theories, flat earthers, creationists, political policy cranks, and assorted other loons.

That’s really another major element to all this, the fantasy so many MAGAts engaged in that the value of checkmarks lay not in the ability for even non-users to know that those with marks had been verified and the real McCoy, but instead had reduced it in their minds to the level of a status symbol that they were being denied for purely arbitrary reasons. Hence why they so readily believed in their BS about how all those with legacy marks would scramble to fork over $8 when Musk switched off their marks on 4/20. And why they’re so pissed that their confident predictions failed to come true and now they look like utter morons for paying money just to get something they previously swore up and down had no value.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 1:10:06am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Everything about libertarianism, from a local neighbourhood “Galt’s Gulch,” cryptocurrency, to running a corporation like Twitter or Sears, to running an entire country like Chile, is a public display of the theory of Chesterton’s Fence.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 1:17:18am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Police nonetheless have to live with that fear, especially in certain areas. The main issue I have is the fallacious notion that more cops = better police protection.

They neglect the factor of training and integrity. Police get around 600 hours of training in the USA, double that in Canada, double that again in the UK and double that again in Germany.

Odd when you see that the number of police hootings per capita is nearly an inverse of that

The county sheriff, when he’s just out walking around, only carries a nightstick. Our village marshal only carries a blackjack. We have virtually no crime.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 1:33:02am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The county sheriff, when he’s just out walking around, only carries a nightstick. Our village marshal only carries a blackjack. We have virtually no crime.

I do not lock my apartment door unless I am going away for several days at a time (the house door directly on the main road remains locked, but we rarely lock the back door as it is nearly inaccessible from the street)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 1:53:17am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Cryptocurrency is based on a decision to trust an anonymous group of server operators to maintain the value and stability of a currency over entrusting that task to elected governments.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 2:10:10am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Cryptocurrency is based on a decision to trust an anonymous group of server operators to maintain the value and stability of a currency over entrusting that task to elected governments.

Driven by the fear of hyperinflation of the currency. They can use the few historic examples (Continental dollars, Confederate dollars, Zimbabwe dollars - this seems like a dollar problem - Hungarian Pengó, &c) to say “see, fiat currencies are bad! Buy gold, silver, cryptocurrency!”

Gold, silver, and cryptocurrency are also fiat currencies. They only have value because we confer value on them. At least gold and silver have uses in industry and art; cryptocurrency is literally digital 1s and 0s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 2:17:15am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Driven by the fear of hyperinflation of the currency. They can use the few historic examples (Continental dollars, Confederate dollars, Zimbabwe dollars - this seems like a dollar problem - Hungarian Pengó, &c) to say “see, fiat currencies are bad! Buy gold, silver, cryptocurrency!”

Gold, silver, and cryptocurrency are also fiat currencies. They only have value because we confer value on them. At least gold and silver have uses in industry and art; cryptocurrency is literally digital 1s and 0s.

Gold and Silver also have the advantage of relative rarity, density, malleability and durability.

And don’t forget the collapse of the Soviet/Russian Ruble in 1992-93. But again, there were political and economic reasons for these collapses that could just as well apply to to any cryptocurrency.

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TarHellion  Apr 24, 2023 • 2:34:52am

A workmanlike par to open the week. Enjoyed the minor-league game to celebrate my friend’s birthday. Just good to see MrsTarH wanting to get out and about. After learning she had, in fact, had some mini-strokes, the medication she has been prescribed definitely is helping. Happy Monday!

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ericblair  Apr 24, 2023 • 2:39:17am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gold and Silver also have the advantage of relative rarity, density, malleability and durability.

And don’t forget the collapse of the Soviet/Russian Ruble in 1992-93. But again, there were political and economic reasons for these collapses that could just as well apply to to any cryptocurrency.

With gold and silver, you can use a touchstone to (sort of) make sure you’re not getting ripped off as well, which is a big thing.

But all of them are inherently deflationary in a growing economy. Bitcoin was designed with a firm upper limit of bitcoins, which would shrink over time through losses that couldn’t be recovered. Mining is limited as well, and the supply of gold-backed money would be limited not by need but by whatever a few companies managed to dig out of the ground this year in Canada, Russia, South Africa, and Australia.

Deflation sounds great to goldbugs and such, but it just locks up the entire monetary system. There’s less than zero incentive to spend or invest if your currency just gets more valuable if you sit on it doing nothing. So of course bitcoin failed as a currency: that’s what everyone is doing with it, and it therefore has no purpose except to be traded to a bigger idiot who will end up holding the bag when nobody cares about it anymore.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 2:45:00am
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steve_davis  Apr 24, 2023 • 2:45:38am

re: #21 Crush White Nationalism

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Bright cat collars help protect birds, study finds (Times Colonist)

And inspires the cats to write stuff like The Shrew of Malta….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 2:53:07am

…and the glut of gold from the Americas made Spain incredibly rich in the 16th century but led to its eventual decline as its own industry languished, leaving it with very little to rely on once the flow of gold started to diminish (or was disrupted by English pirates)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 2:54:00am

There’s an App for That (Juanita Jean’s, the World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon)

TL;DR, an enterprising software engineer has come up with a way to grift from conservatives with an app which warns you when a company has “gone woke.” You can sign up for free, by handing over your personal information like telephone and E-mail. They can then sell the information to Republican candidates or SuperPACs.

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ericblair  Apr 24, 2023 • 3:08:57am

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…and the glut of gold from the Americas made Spain incredibly rich in the 16th century but led to its eventual decline as its own industry languished, leaving it with very little to rely on once the flow of gold started to diminish (or was disrupted by English pirates)

Yep, and they got to learn that inflation isn’t just for fiat currencies.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 3:09:20am

Dollars? Gold? Crypto? Bah, I’ll base my economy around bottlecaps backed by water. I’ll be rich!

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ericblair  Apr 24, 2023 • 3:18:26am

re: #69 Targetpractice

Dollars? Gold? Crypto? Bah, I’ll base my economy around bottlecaps backed by water. I’ll be rich!

Nuka Cola!
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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 3:33:45am

Think one of my favorite bits of trivia about Fallout: New Vegas is how there’s three different standards for barter by the time the Courier arrives on the scene.

The NCR had gold dollars as their currency until just before the game when the Brotherhood bombed their gold depository and rendered it all radioactive, forcing them to adopt a fiat currency of paper dollars that are (in theory) backed by the nation’s brahmin herds. It’s not truly worthless, but it is the least valuable of the three in circulation.

Then there’s Caesar’s Legions with their silver and gold coins, which are more valuable than NCR dollars largely because the only ways to get them (at least in-game) are either to work for the Legion, kill Legion soldiers, or find small amounts when scavenging. Plus they have a secondary use as material for making coin shot rounds.

And then there’s the currency in the middle, the trusty bottlecaps that have returned to their place in the economy because they’re backed by water which isn’t all controlled by either side but finding clean sources of it still requires equipment set-ups that are hard to build and maintain. Caps are basically the base currency, with the value of dollars and coins translating as how many caps they’re worth at one time or another.

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Nojay UK  Apr 24, 2023 • 3:42:32am

re: #71 Targetpractice

Monetary systems for online games are a pain for the system administrators to deal with — inflation is one major hassle. They print money, just like governments do (You’ve killed the dragon! Here’s 50,000 gold!) but that devalues existing holdings by other players. There’s also the problem of game currency being bought and sold in the real world for real (fiat) money as part of the pay-to-play strategy.

A friend of mine wrote a book that kicked off with a “heist” at an online game company. The poor police officer who turned up to the Secret Underground Bunker (used for proofing against cyber-attacks) where the company kept their servers didn’t understand that this “Monopoly money” was worth anything at all but then when it was explained to her that the real-world exchange value of the stolen intangible assets was in the millions that changed things.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:08:58am

Definitely an exercise for a tired brain this morning.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:11:24am

re: #72 Nojay UK

I almost feel that game companies that utilize in-game currencies (so virtually all of them, these days) should employ an economist to keep track of the state of their in-game economy and sign off on the appropriate adjustments. I, as a developer, wouldn’t want to represent myself as an expert in how to balance a monetary system.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:11:47am

The Russian Ruble was actually two (or even three) currencies all with the same name and nominal value.

First, the cash Rubles that people had in their pay packets and bank accounts. These could only be spent on goods and services available in state stores, agencies or state-approved markets. They were not convertible.

Then there were the non-currency rubles: these were used by state-owned companies for bookkeeping purposes to keep track of transactions with other state-owned firms. These could not be converted into cash rubles except to a limited extent (an amount necessary to cover daily expenses)

Neither of these Rubles could be converted into foreign currency without a license from the government to convert a specific amount when travelling abroad (on official business) or when purchasing foreign goods (with approval of the Ministry in charge)

So when the USSR collapsed, all those goofy non-currency Rubles got dumped in together with the existing cash Rubles with no restrictions on exchange, and the value went from one Ruble costing $1.35 (official exchange rate) to one dollar costing over 700 Rubles over the course of a few years (at which point they knocked off two zeroes and reset it to 7 Rubles per dollar. It is currently at 81 Rubles per dollar, but only because it is no longer freely convertible)

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ericblair  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:13:30am

So this could get interesting. I wonder if Erdogan seriously miscalculated, or this poll is misleading, or (at least Erdogan thinks) the fix is in.

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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:36:23am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Cryptocurrency is based on a decision to trust an anonymous group of server operators to maintain the value and stability of a currency over entrusting that task to elected governments.

Not a crypto advocate for use in first world countries. I will just add that aside from Bitcoin, every crypto can be inflated infinitively at the behast of a small group of people. Bitcoin, at least, seems impervious to such wims.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:38:28am

re: #77 JC1

Not a crypto advocate for use in first world countries. I will just add that aside from Bitcoin, every crypto can be inflated infinitively at the behast of a small group of people. Bitcoin, at least, seems impervious to such wims.

Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme, designed to benefit the early adopters at the expense of people who are late to the game. While you’re correct in that its design makes it resistant to manipulation, it’s just as much a scam as the other cryptocurrencies. It wasn’t until after Bitcoin was out in the world that the techbros realized they could simplify their scams by making unstable coins that they could mint at will and rubes would buy just to be “hip.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:38:39am

re: #77 JC1

Not a crypto advocate for use in first world countries. I will just add that aside from Bitcoin, every crypto can be inflated infinitively at the behast of a small group of people. Bitcoin, at least, seems impervious to such wims.

Not for countries with a freely, fairly elected and representative government that is.

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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:41:04am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Russian Ruble was actually two (or even three) currencies all with the same name and nominal value.

First, the cash Rubles that people had in their pay packets and bank accounts. These could only be spent on goods and services available in state stores, agencies or state-approved markets. They were not convertible.

Then there were the non-currency rubles: these were used by state-owned companies for bookkeeping purposes to keep track of transactions with other state-owned firms. These could not be converted into cash rubles except to a limited extent (an amount necessary to cover daily expenses)

Neither of these Rubles could be converted into foreign currency without a license from the government to convert a specific amount when travelling abroad (on official business) or when purchasing foreign goods (with approval of the Ministry in charge)

So when the USSR collapsed, all those goofy non-currency Rubles got dumped in together with the existing cash Rubles with no restrictions on exchange, and the value went from one Ruble costing $1.35 (official exchange rate) to one dollar costing over 700 Rubles over the course of a few years (at which point they knocked off two zeroes and reset it to 7 Rubles per dollar. It is currently at 81 Rubles per dollar, but only because it is no longer freely convertible)

Even before the dilution of the Soviet Union, the black market ruble/USD exchange rate was very different from the official rate. As was the case with the currencies of other Warsaw Pact countries.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:47:04am

I heard a story about ho Van Cliburn won a Soviet-era classical piano competition and received his prize of 10,000 which he was not allowed to take out of the country (all Soviets citizens were forbidden to do so as well without a license)

So he donated the sum to the Russian Orthodox church

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Teukka  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:47:27am

☣️ Infection tracing and emergency vaccinations at major Swedish hospital due to Measles -
expressen.se🇸🇪
Thanks a fucking lot, anti-vaxxers!

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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:49:34am

re: #78 Nerdy Fish

Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme, designed to benefit the early adopters at the expense of people who are late to the game. While you’re correct in that its design makes it resistant to manipulation, it’s just as much a scam as the other cryptocurrencies. It wasn’t until after Bitcoin was out in the world that the techbros realized they could simplify their scams by making unstable coins that they could mint at will and rubes would buy just to be “hip.”

Not a Ponzi in the classical Ponzi sense. It’s something else. I think that it will likely crash and burn. It can be useful as a medium of exchange in places that don’t have a robust banking system, or for sending money to places not serviced by PayPal and such. In a Ponzi scheme, the people on top get paid from deposits/investments made by people who come in later, not from returns of the business. That’s not what’s happening with Bitcoin. It’s more analogous to a stock that doesn’t pay dividends or to land ownership. Unless you consider those Ponzi schemes. Unlike an IPO/ICO, Bitcoin didn’t have a pre-mint.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 4:53:44am

re: #83 JC1

Not in the strict sense, but in the generic sense of a system that is designed to benefit the guy(s) at the top at the expense of the people who come behind. I think I read somewhere that like >50% of Bitcoin are held by a very small number of people, all original investors/miners. The way Bitcoin is structured makes it more difficult to generate new coins as time goes on (the anti-inflationary/anti-manipulation measure you mentioned), which means that the early adopters have mined most of the Bitcoin that will ever exist.

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Teukka  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:00:48am

Update on the ear-piercing arrest…

Am I too cynical if I assume someone thought that males getting their ears pierced in those part is considered gay or feminine?

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:02:02am

re: #85 Teukka

Update on the ear-piercing arrest…

Am I too cynical if I assume someone thought that males getting their ears pierced in those part is considered gay or feminine?

No. It’s still a common assumption in this part of the country, so depending on where the arrest took place, that’s quite possible.

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:02:32am

Mastodon

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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:04:42am

re: #84 Nerdy Fish

Not in the strict sense, but in the generic sense of a system that is designed to benefit the guy(s) at the top at the expense of the people who come behind. I think I read somewhere that like >50% of Bitcoin are held by a very small number of people, all original investors/miners. The way Bitcoin is structured makes it more difficult to generate new coins as time goes on (the anti-inflationary/anti-manipulation measure you mentioned), which means that the early adopters have mined most of the Bitcoin that will ever exist.

Well, the original million or so Bitcoin that Satoshi mined, haven’t been touched in over a decade. The guy is either dead or superhumanly disciplined. Bitcoin was open from the beginning. A buddy sent me a copy of the white paper back in the 2008 timeframe. I remember the slashdot.com article when it hit 1 dollar. There was nothing preventing anyone with a computer from mining Bitcoin. In the early days, you didn’t even need a GPU, nevermind custom ASICs. I’ve never gotten into it, and I don’t have any FOMO or regrets about it. I always thought that the use cases in the first world were convoluted aside from edge cases. I certainly don’t think that it’s a good use of electricity or computing power.
The concentration of ownership is no different than the concentration of ownership of many corporations, etc. The reality is that many of those who invested early sold at 5x or 10x. I certainly would have done so had I bothered to throw any money at it. It required a religious conviction to hold/hodl from the early days to now. And just like any other religion, it doesn’t make sense to me. But unlike other crypto, Bitcoin doesn’t have any high priests as such.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:04:45am

re: #87 Thanos

I suspect that American gun activists will also be gluing their AR-15s to their hands if Congress ever passes any bans or restrictions on them.

(talk about sticking to your guns)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:11:11am
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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:12:36am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pretty typical spring weather coming for us this week. Highs in the 40’s and 50’s °F, and rain.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:12:53am

we are also expecting temps down near freezing this week

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:25:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:28:24am

Again, people: religious rights are individual (including the right not to practice religion) rights. They do not apply to churches or denominations or any other sort of religious organizations.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:28:50am

And that’s why we want them to enlist in the military to die in a foreign land.

We trust them with multi-million dollar pieces of equipment, but we don’t trust them to make decisions about themselves.

I hate these stupid conservative arguments. They remain stupid no matter how many times they retell them.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:28:58am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Except to the Christian Nationalists, this is a feature, not a bug. They don’t want atheists, gays, transgenders, Blacks, browns, or “others” from mingling with their kind, lest the “others’” corrupting influence cause them to sin. Here’s a hint: If your ability to follow your moral code is constrained by the fact that people around you don’t do the same, that is the literal definition of a “you problem.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:29:30am
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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:30:51am

It’s Sheeran’s big day, jury selection in his copyright trial starts today;
Here’s Rick Beato’s take from a few years back when the controversy started:

ED SHEERAN VS. MARVIN GAYE LAWSUIT: Let’s Compare!

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:32:38am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

No one’s expecting you to change your traditional values, you shitweasel. Tolerating people who are different than you, or that you don’t particularly like, is literally the definition of the religion you profess to believe in (see, e.g., “Love your neighbor as yourself” “Who is my neighbor?” “Everybody. It’s literally everybody. Just fucking love everybody, you morons.”) That you can’t see this because you’re so wrapped up in yourself and your self-righteousness is, once again, a “you problem.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:33:42am

Middle of a thread:

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Teukka  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:38:07am

⚠️ CW/TW: Kim Dotcom ⚠️

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ericblair  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:39:26am

re: #99 Nerdy Fish

No one’s expecting you to change your traditional values, you shitweasel. Tolerating people who are different than you, or that you don’t particularly like, is literally the definition of the religion you profess to believe in (see, e.g., “Love your neighbor as yourself” “Who is my neighbor?” “Everybody. It’s literally everybody. Just fucking love everybody, you morons.”) That you can’t see this because you’re so wrapped up in yourself and your self-righteousness is, once again, a “you problem.”

When they start talking about “self-absorbed children who let their emotions dictate right and wrong”, they should look in the fucking mirror.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:48:42am

re: #99 Nerdy Fish

No one’s expecting you to change your traditional values, you shitweasel. Tolerating people who are different than you, or that you don’t particularly like, is literally the definition of the religion you profess to believe in (see, e.g., “Love your neighbor as yourself” “Who is my neighbor?” “Everybody. It’s literally everybody. Just fucking love everybody, you morons.”) That you can’t see this because you’re so wrapped up in yourself and your self-righteousness is, once again, a “you problem.”

So when do “self-absorbed children” become “self-absorbed adults?” 16? 18? 21? 62?

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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:49:34am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So when do “self-absorbed children” become “self-absorbed adults?” 16? 18? 21? 62?

When they accept Jesus as their personal savior…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:50:02am

re: #102 ericblair

When they start talking about “self-absorbed children who let their emotions dictate right and wrong”, they should look in the fucking mirror.

His bio on Twitter:

Twenty-eight year law enforcement veteran originally from California. I’m/a/man

Good for you buddy. They gave you a gun and a badge to patrol mostly safe streets. I’m not impressed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:52:23am
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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:52:47am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So when do “self-absorbed children” become “self-absorbed adults?” 16? 18? 21? 62?

I think they settled on age 25 as they all read at some point about a “study” that pegs that as the age when the brain is fully matured, hence why you’ll occasionally hear them argue that that’s should be the voting age. Of course, none of them are suggesting that it’s wrong to allow “kids” to fight and die for “their country,” just that they’re not “mature” enough to vote.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:55:27am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Also…..

Same Sex/LGBTQ+ Couples: We’d like to adopt.
Pro-Lifers In Alabama: Not you either.

Interracial Couples: We’d like to adopt.
Pro-Lifers In Alabama: LOLZ. Riiiiiiiiiight.

Single women: We’d like to adopt.
Pro-Lifers In Alabama: You’re kidding, right?

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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 5:57:42am

re: #107 Targetpractice

I think they settled on age 25 as they all read at some point about a “study” that pegs that as the age when the brain is fully matured, hence why you’ll occasionally hear them argue that that’s should be the voting age. Of course, none of them are suggesting that it’s wrong to allow “kids” to fight and die for “their country,” just that they’re not “mature” enough to vote.

Much easier to brainwash 17 and 18 year olds in boot camp than it is to brainwash 25 year olds.
Early 20s are peak brain performance years by many measures. All downhill from there. Maybe we shouldn’t let those over 30 make any important decisions as well, since they’re clearly over the hill mentally.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:01:31am

They won’t be reusing that launch pad any time soon.

Shocking videos posted online show Elon Musk’s Starship rocket spraying debris all over the southern Texas coast as it powered off the launchpad.

The massive 395-foot rocket powered into the air from sunny Boca Chica, Texas Thursday morning, but burst into flames just four minutes after takeoff.

The explosion sent debris flying at thousands of miles an hour, damaging a car parked miles away and sending a dust cloud over the Gulf of Mexico on an otherwise sunny day.
Footage from thousands of feet away shows the dust cloud slowly engulfing the area, sending debris flying and sending palm trees swaying in the heavy winds before it ultimately starts to dissipate.

Pictures also showed the colossal crater and wrecked launch pad left in the rocket’s wake.

The Federal Aviation Administration has now grounded all of SpaceX’s Starship rockets as it investigates the failed launch.

Footings are seriously undermined, I would think they would have to start new again.

dailymail.co.uk

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:01:33am
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Jay C  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:05:37am

re: #110 Shropshire Slasher

They won’t be reusing that launch pad any time soon.

Footings are seriously undermined, I would think they would have to start new again.

dailymail.co.uk

Presumably, with a blast trench this time….

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:06:28am

According to the far-right, you are emotionally mature enough to own a gun by the time you’re in elementary school, ready to be a parent by age 10, old enough to marry by age 12, fully prepared to start working a job by age 14, and ready to start killing other human beings on the other side of the globe by as early as 16.

By contrast, you’re not allowed to view boobs, try any recreational drugs, make medical decisions, or even vote until you’re 25 or older because “you’re not mature enough.”

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jeffreyw  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:06:49am

Gumbo

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:08:24am

Crime rates surging?

OMG. What are we ever to do? What caused it?

Where are crime rates surging? Why are they surging?

Well, let’s dig deeper, shall we?

We can start at the top, with the right wing extremists on the SCOTUS eviscerating a 100+ year old gun law in NYS that makes it easier to sell and obtain guns, and undermined gun regulation and requirements to register firearms or possess them in certain places.

NYS has had one of the lowest per capita gun death rates in the nation. States with lax gun laws have the highest gun death rates. That has been the case for years.

Lax gun law states have relaxed their already lax gun laws to make it even easier to get guns, and gun death rates and mass shootings have soared - everywhere.

Iron pipelines mean that someone in NYC or Chicago can go to nearby lax gun law states to get the guns used in violent crimes or suicides. We are only as safe as the least restrictive gun law states.

Bail laws didn’t cause that.

This is the work of the NRA and GOP to make it even easier to commit crimes. These same GOPers want to underfund and undermine gun background checks. They want to make it even easier to get assault rifles and other weapons designed with express intent to murder mass numbers of people in shortest amount of time.

That’s the Zardoz death wish vision they seek.

Crime rates have risen in many states and places over the past two years, but risen higher in GOP states. They focus on NYC or Chicago because they have kept good stats going back years, and it’s easy to point to numbers, but per capita figures show it’s still safer to live in NYC than Columbus OH. It’s safer to live in NYC than many GOP controlled cities.

But when media outlets fixate on crime, it’s because it is lazy and easy to do for journalists because the police departments hand out their copy and use it verbatim, even though investigations usually tell a different story, especially when police involved shootings occur.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:09:44am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

bbc.comre: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pro-Lifers: Adoption is always an option there’s plenty of people who would love to adopt!

Navajo couple: We’d like to adopt, especially as the child is Navajo.

Pro-Lifers: Not you.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:11:27am

Honestly, I don’t feel sorry for him. Karma for every MAGA Nazi.

Speaking to “60 Minutes” on Sunday, Epps, a former Marine and Oath Keeper, explained he is in hiding, because his fellow MAGA supporters are now sending death threats. He and his wife were forced to sell their home and go on the run.

[…]

“It was a sloppy election. And then to top that off you have talking heads reporting that there’s problems with the voting machines and different things like that. The election’s stolen. So yeah, we had concerns. I wanted to be there. I wanted to witness this with my own eyes,” said Epps.

He and his 36-year-old son went to Washington, D.C., and ran into problems starting on Jan. 5. There were disagreements among those at a pro-Trump rally. He tried to take charge.

“I’m gonna put it out there I’m probably gonna go to jail for this. Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol! Into the Capitol!” he said to the crowd.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:12:45am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:15:35am

Aren’t electric scooters woke?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:17:00am

re: #117 Dr. Matt

“It was a sloppy election.

It was different than other elections in that there were a lot more write-in and absentee votes, and that these absentee votes tended to skew heavily to one party.

But that was anticipated by Trump and the GOP as incorporated into their strategy: to claim “victory” on election night when only the voting precinct returns were coming in and then claiming “massive voter fraud” when the absentee/mail-in votes started being counted.

It nearly worked and they are going to try to pull it off a second time.

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lawhawk  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:18:48am

re: #112 Jay C

Presumably, with a blast trench this time….

And water suppression systems that help reduce vibration, noise, and damage. There’s a reason that NASA dumps a 0.5 million gallons into their launch pad protection system in seconds - to mitigate the damage we see here.

Why rockets eject half a million gallons of water

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lawhawk  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:20:52am

re: #118 Dave In Austin

Moons over My Hammy…

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Teukka  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:23:33am

Let’s talk about Facebook and Twitter….

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Dave In Austin  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:24:11am

re: #122 lawhawk

Moons over My Hammy…

Someone cooking Breakfast?

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A Cranky One  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:28:34am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:33:15am

A bit late for this:

so for Passover one is supposed to clear out all traces of leavened bread from one’s house, even crumbs.

They invented a vacuum cleaner with a special Passover setting.

This one goes up to “unleavened”.

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:33:33am

Mastodon

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:33:35am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A bit late for this:

so for Passover one is supposed to clear out all traces of leavened bread from one’s house, even crumbs.

They invented a vacuum cleaner with a special Passover setting.

This one goes up to “unleavened”.

*WHACK!*

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Dave In Austin  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:35:38am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:36:57am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was different than other elections in that there were a lot more write-in and absentee votes, and that these absentee votes tended to skew heavily to one party.

But that was anticipated by Trump and the GOP as incorporated into their strategy: to claim “victory” on election night when only the voting precinct returns were coming in and then claiming “massive voter fraud” when the absentee/mail-in votes started being counted.

It nearly worked and they are going to try to pull it off a second time.

And Dear Leader and his entire family voted absentee. This actual fact doesn’t seem to faze the Nazis’ narrative.

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:37:02am

Bummer…there’s actually video on that post.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:37:03am

re: #72 Nojay UK

Monetary systems for online games are a pain for the system administrators to deal with — inflation is one major hassle. They print money, just like governments do (You’ve killed the dragon! Here’s 50,000 gold!) but that devalues existing holdings by other players. There’s also the problem of game currency being bought and sold in the real world for real (fiat) money as part of the pay-to-play strategy.

A friend of mine wrote a book that kicked off with a “heist” at an online game company. The poor police officer who turned up to the Secret Underground Bunker (used for proofing against cyber-attacks) where the company kept their servers didn’t understand that this “Monopoly money” was worth anything at all but then when it was explained to her that the real-world exchange value of the stolen intangible assets was in the millions that changed things.

It’s one reason the on-line games generally have whole lines of stuff to buy that is decorative without having any real in-game effect. It’s designed as a way to get currency out of the game economy without affecting the power balance of the game. Plus bonus IRL $$$ if people are paying real-world currency for the game currency in order to buy them. (Which could well be tapping into the desire of some people to be “completists” and have at least one copy of everything. Which can also applies to games that have achievements or some other grouping of things to do or have. I edge into this behavior at times.)

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:38:40am

Another aspect to those blue checks is now that they have one and they’re “in” they’re realizing its just not all that.

You stand outside a club for weeks, night after night, begging to get in
Can’t get past the big guy and the rope line
One night, very late, they let you by.
You *pay* your cover
You go in
And… “this is what it was all about???? That’s it??”
And worse, all those cool people don’t even come here anymore

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:40:27am

re: #74 Nerdy Fish

I almost feel that game companies that utilize in-game currencies (so virtually all of them, these days) should employ an economist to keep track of the state of their in-game economy and sign off on the appropriate adjustments. I, as a developer, wouldn’t want to represent myself as an expert in how to balance a monetary system.

Neal Stephenson’s _Reamde_ dips into this and there are some major plot points revolving around the fact that you could exchange in-game money for real money and how it drives some real world activities.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:42:00am

I think the real road safety crisis is driver inattention.

A proposed plan for the fiscal 2024 budget from the Department of Transportation, which includes spending $20 million on female crash dummies, received praise from the top Democrat on the House Appropriations Committee.

During an appearance by Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg before a House Appropriations subcommittee on Thursday, Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) praised Buttigieg’s proposal for the new crash test dummies. She said the secretary plans to make “important investments to address the road safety crisis.”
DeLauro described the money for the new crash dummies as “critical funding,” according to footage obtained from Yeshiva World News.

“This will start to fight the gender inequity among vehicle safety and crash victims,” said DeLauro.

washingtonexaminer.com

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:42:58am

Good morning all!

Finally found something I’ve been looking for!

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:44:05am

Mastodon

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:44:09am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I heard a story about ho Van Cliburn won a Soviet-era classical piano competition and received his prize of 10,000 which he was not allowed to take out of the country (all Soviets citizens were forbidden to do so as well without a license)

So he donated the sum to the Russian Orthodox church

Not being able to get money out of a country is more than a Russian thing.

A number of record albums were made by people in places like Jamaica (IIRC) since they had funds stranded there. My brother had money stranded in Malaysia after his father-in-law died and they no longer needed the one house there. Those funds to a large degree stayed there for use whenever my sister-in-law went back to Malaysia since getting the money out was going to be problematic. (Malaysia, of course, was quite happy to let you bring money in, like the initial purchase of said house.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:47:19am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I suspect that American gun activists will also be gluing their AR-15s to their hands if Congress ever passes any bans or restrictions on them.

(talk about sticking to your guns)

I’d be happy with that. Then they can starve themselves or otherwise find out how many things in life are difficult to do one-handed, or no-handed if they are true idiots.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:48:37am

re: #129 Dave In Austin

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It’s truly sad the The Former Guy and DeathSantis are the best the GQP have to offer for this country. I was thought dubyah would have been the lowest of low. But these two are a “hold by beer” moment to find a new low.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:50:20am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A bit late for this:

so for Passover one is supposed to clear out all traces of leavened bread from one’s house, even crumbs.

They invented a vacuum cleaner with a special Passover setting.

This one goes up to “unleavened”.

I AM SCREAMING

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:50:23am

re: #140 Dr. Matt

It’s truly sad the The Former Guy and DeathSantis are the best the GQP have to offer for this country. I was thought dubyah would have been the lowest of low. But these two are a “hold by beer” moment to find a new low.

They’re not the best they can offer; they’re the best they want to offer. They’re not interested in doing anything positive for the country as a whole, only for their select few. The GQP is no longer a party that cares about the country, only about itself and its constituents.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:53:02am

re: #132 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It’s one reason the on-line games generally have whole lines of stuff to buy that is decorative without having any real in-game effect. It’s designed as a way to get currency out of the game economy without affecting the power balance of the game. Plus bonus IRL $$$ if people are paying real-world currency for the game currency in order to buy them. (Which could well be tapping into the desire of some people to be “completists” and have at least one copy of everything. Which can also applies to games that have achievements or some other grouping of things to do or have. I edge into this behavior at times.)

Every MMO starts out by swearing up and down that everything in the in-game shop is “cosmetic” and you can enjoy the game without buying anything from there. They’ll also sucker you in by telling you that it’s entirely possible to farm for shop currency in the game and will even given you a small amount at the beginning because “first hit’s always free.” But eventually they’ll reach that point where either paid subscriptions are not bringing in enough revenue or not enough people are paying real money to buy cosmetic items in the shop, and that’s when they’ll start offering things like XP bonuses or limited-time boosts, before they just break down and start stocking the best items in the shop.

And every time they do, it will be the same excuse: “You don’t have to buy stuff from the store to enjoy the game.” Which is true…if you enjoy endless grinding for gear that is never as good as the guy with disposable income bought less than an hour into his first day of playtime.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:53:18am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A bit late for this:

so for Passover one is supposed to clear out all traces of leavened bread from one’s house, even crumbs.

They invented a vacuum cleaner with a special Passover setting.

This one goes up to “unleavened”.

WOW!

IT GOES UP TO 11!!!!!!!!!!

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:54:08am

Uh-oh, there’s trouble at Chez Fish. The bird feeder has developed a bit of a following. In addition to the typical sparrows and chickadees, there is a pair of cardinals, the occasional blue jay, and the previously mentioned grackle. Except what was just one grackle has now turned into no less than four; and they are, uhh, “aggressive” about it. A fight broke out a few minutes ago as two males postured at each other over their unwanted presence at the bird feeder. I didn’t get to see how that ended, as they took off in separate directions.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 6:59:40am

re: #145 Nerdy Fish

Uh-oh, there’s trouble at Chez Fish. The bird feeder has developed a bit of a following. In addition to the typical sparrows and chickadees, there is a pair of cardinals, the occasional blue jay, and the previously mentioned grackle. Except what was just one grackle has now turned into no less than four; and they are, uhh, “aggressive” about it. A fight broke out a few minutes ago as two males postured at each other over their unwanted presence at the bird feeder. I didn’t get to see how that ended, as they took off in separate directions.

Your feeder is a valuable piece of territory to claim for nesting season.

If you have multiple cardinals you’ll see pretty soon that the males (at least) have a hierarchy in terms of the order of who gets to eat. The females get to cut the line. And the males will chase off other birds - though the chickadees and nut hatches will fly in to grab a seed anyways.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:00:48am

re: #146 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Your feeder is a valuable piece of territory to claim for nesting season.

If you have multiple cardinals you’ll see pretty soon that the males (at least) have a hierarchy in terms of the order of who gets to eat. The females get to cut the line. And the males will chase off other birds - though the chickadees and nut hatches will fly in to grab a seed anyways.

Right now, it’s just the one male/female pair that I’ve seen. I’m sure any other cardinals in the area will get the idea to stop by in due time. The real question is: How long before the hawk who patrols the neighborhood gets the memo that there is a place where his favorite snacks gather to eat and rest?

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:02:48am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not lock my apartment door unless I am going away for several days at a time (the house door directly on the main road remains locked, but we rarely lock the back door as it is nearly inaccessible from the street)

Same here. We lock the front door if we will be gone for an extended length of time. The back door is never locked.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:06:29am

re: #140 Dr. Matt

It’s truly sad the The Former Guy and DeathSantis are the best the GQP have to offer for this country. I was thought dubyah would have been the lowest of low. But these two are a “hold by beer” moment to find a new low.

My concern is he’s all we got. And who for 28’? I’m really concerned with his age as well. Harris is NOT the answer. I’m pretty un-impressed with her so far. I would only vote for her if she was the last leg standing at this point.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:09:39am

re: #147 Nerdy Fish

Right now, it’s just the one male/female pair that I’ve seen. I’m sure any other cardinals in the area will get the idea to stop by in due time. The real question is: How long before the hawk who patrols the neighborhood gets the memo that there is a place where his favorite snacks gather to eat and rest?

Circle of Life.

Your alternative is not to have a feeder up.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:11:29am

re: #150 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Circle of Life.

Your alternative is not to have a feeder up.

Our feeder is setup below the Owl Box. It’s like a bird buffet for them.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:12:51am

re: #150 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Circle of Life.

Your alternative is not to have a feeder up.

Oh, I have no qualms about the hawk coming in and thinning the flock. I just hope I get to see him come in when it happens. Hawks are magnificent creatures. The eagle pair that nests a mile or two up the road might have an interest as well, but I think I’ve only seen them out this way once.

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:13:28am

re: #145 Nerdy Fish

Sounds like you need to hang more bird feeders.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:13:51am

re: #62 TarHellion

A workmanlike par to open the week. Enjoyed the minor-league game to celebrate my friend’s birthday. Just good to see MrsTarH wanting to get out and about. After learning she had, in fact, had some mini-strokes, the medication she has been prescribed definitely is helping. Happy Monday!

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:15:03am

re: #149 Dave In Austin

My concern is he’s all we got. And who for 28’? I’m really concerned with his age as well. Harris is NOT the answer. I’m pretty un-impressed with her so far. I would only vote for her if she was the last leg standing at this point.

What does Harris have to do in order to impress you? The VP’s job is mainly ceremonial. The VP is just a “spare.”

Yeah the media is crafting a narrative that “Biden is too old” “Biden seems weak” “Kamala is boring” but you know what THE OTHER SIDE ARE ALL CRIMINALS!!!!

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:19:14am

re: #140 Dr. Matt

It’s truly sad the The Former Guy and DeathSantis are the best the GQP have to offer for this country. I was thought dubyah would have been the lowest of low. But these two are a “hold by beer” moment to find a new low.

they’re not the best
they’ve just got the party in thrall at the moment
and desantos, not so much

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Dave In Austin  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:25:21am

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

What does Harris have to do in order to impress you? The VP’s job is mainly ceremonial. The VP is just a “spare.”

Yeah the media is crafting a narrative that “Biden is too old” “Biden seems weak” “Kamala is boring” but you know what THE OTHER SIDE ARE ALL CRIMINALS!!!!

We both know all this.
Regardless, there are concerns. If Biden were to pass in office, of course she whould have my unending support. We would then see what she’s made of. I’ll NEVER support another Republican as long as I live. And as hard as it is, we need to look past tomorrow.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:28:48am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gold and Silver also have the advantage of relative rarity, density, malleability and durability.

And don’t forget the collapse of the Soviet/Russian Ruble in 1992-93. But again, there were political and economic reasons for these collapses that could just as well apply to to any cryptocurrency.

And gold and silver have been used as currency for millennia. So they have the support of history. They also have physical existence — unlike crypto (and most real currencies in the modern world).

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sagehen  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:29:42am

re: #149 Dave In Austin

My concern is he’s all we got. And who for 28’? I’m really concerned with his age as well. Harris is NOT the answer. I’m pretty un-impressed with her so far. I would only vote for her if she was the last leg standing at this point.

Newsome’s trying to position himself, I like Buttigieg, there’s some midwestern governors, there’s a pretty deep bench for that many years from now.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:32:02am

re: #159 sagehen

Newsome’s trying to position himself, I like Buttigieg, there’s some midwestern governors, there’s a pretty deep bench for that many years from now.

Josh Shapiro in PA looks pretty impressive. Also keep an eye on Presley in Mississippi. If he takes out the current GOP clown he could be a contender as well.

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:34:45am

Trial to begin in 2018 killing of 11 at Pittsburgh synagogue

PITTSBURGH —
Jury selection will begin Monday in the federal death penalty trial of a truck driver accused of shooting to death 11 Jewish worshippers at a Pittsburgh synagogue in the deadliest antisemitic attack in U.S. history.

Robert G. Bowers, who is from the Pittsburgh suburb of Baldwin, faces 63 counts in the Oct. 27, 2018, attack at the Tree of Life synagogue while members of three Jewish congregations were holding Sabbath activities in the building. The charges include 11 counts of obstruction of free exercise of religion resulting in death and 11 counts of hate crimes resulting in death.

kmbc.com

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:36:13am

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

What does Harris have to do in order to impress you? The VP’s job is mainly ceremonial. The VP is just a “spare.”

Yeah the media is crafting a narrative that “Biden is too old” “Biden seems weak” “Kamala is boring” but you know what THE OTHER SIDE ARE ALL CRIMINALS!!!!

age will mostly be a neutered argument if the r’s nominate tfg.
that is unless one of them appears obviously weak or infirm on the campaign trail

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lawhawk  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:36:30am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:36:50am

re: #160 Joe Bacon

Josh Shapiro in PA looks pretty impressive. Also keep an eye on Presley in Mississippi. If he takes out the current GOP clown he could be a contender as well.

I’d love to keep a competent Democrat as governor in PA for an extended period. Or at least until the Democrats build a more solid working majority in at least half the legislature - in this case simply to limit the amount of screwball bills the majority GOP legislatures are tossing out right now.

Pity the flip did not occur two year earlier since then there could have been a solid drive to un-gerrymander the representative districts. (The various lawsuits and court cases have helped with that in the past decade in any case. Though I expect that the Calvinball Court *would* get involved if another case regarding PA’s districts got before them.)

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:37:00am

re: #160 Joe Bacon

Josh Shapiro in PA looks pretty impressive. Also keep an eye on Presley in Mississippi. If he takes out the current GOP clown he could be a contender as well.

As much as I like Governor Walz here in MN, he doesn’t seem to have any ambitions of higher office, and to be frank, I kinda don’t want him to. He’s a good governor, and I don’t know that I want to ruin him by sending him to Washington to fight dirty against the national GOP, who are quite a bit nastier than our local home-grown idiots.

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:37:48am

re: #162 Dangerman

age will mostly be a neutered argument if the r’s nominate tfg.
that is unless one of them appears obviously weak or infirm on the campaign trail

Looked at from a pure health perspective, Joe’s in better shape than both of those other guys.

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mmmirele  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:37:51am

Shiplord Kirel, your cousin is a real piece of work.

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Jay C  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:39:08am

re: #163 lawhawk

What a fucking hack!
A yarmulke with his name on it?

So he can remember who he is?

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Unabogie  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:44:25am

re: #29 DodgerFan1988

The replies in Matt Walsh’s feed are a toxic stew of racism, fat jokes, and pure fascist glee at the thought of jailing Lizzo for the crime of dancing with people in drag.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:46:25am

re: #167 mmmirele

Shiplord Kirel, your cousin is a real piece of work.

I can’t blame her. Democracy hasn’t been working for them. It’s no surprise that they think it’s their enemy.

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Teukka  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:47:11am

re: #167 mmmirele

Shiplord Kirel, your cousin is a real piece of work.

OOPS…

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Teukka  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:48:05am

re: #168 Jay C

What a fucking hack!
A yarmulke with his name on it?

So he can remember who he is?

More like taking any possibility to sell merch… Fucking vulture…

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dat_said  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:51:16am

re: #168 Jay C

What a fucking hack!
A yarmulke with his name on it?

So he can remember who he is?

It’s from his days in the Mickey Mouse Club. He cut off the ears for some reason.

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jeffreyw  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:52:35am

re: #160 Joe Bacon

Josh Shapiro in PA looks pretty impressive. Also keep an eye on Presley in Mississippi. If he takes out the current GOP clown he could be a contender as well.

Also: Pritzker, Governor of Illinois

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 24, 2023 • 7:55:12am

re: #133 Dangerman

Another aspect to those blue checks is now that they have one and they’re “in” they’re realizing its just not all that.

You stand outside a club for weeks, night after night, begging to get in
Can’t get past the big guy and the rope line
One night, very late, they let you by.
You *pay* your cover
You go in
And… “this is what it was all about???? That’s it??”
And worse, all those cool people don’t even come here anymore

Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:01:27am

I think our overnight freezes are finally done, so it’s time for me to move out to the back deck and get the baskets set up for planting so we can get the spice plants & etc. out of the kitchen…

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:08:36am

re: #109 JC1

Much easier to brainwash 17 and 18 year olds in boot camp than it is to brainwash 25 year olds.
Early 20s are peak brain performance years by many measures. All downhill from there. Maybe we shouldn’t let those over 30 make any important decisions as well, since they’re clearly over the hill mentally.

Most of those who have become Fox enthusiasts are well over 30. I don’t think it’s hard to brainwash anyway using the right tools and situation.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:11:13am

re: #177 Hecuba’s daughter

Most of those who have become Fox enthusiasts are well over 30. I don’t think it’s hard to brainwash anyway using the right tools and situation.

Yeah, it’s the older generations who have fixated on Faux, OANN, Newsmax, etc., as representing their “traditional American values.” The younger generations have learned that this phrase is code for “religious repression,” and want nothing to do with it. The “brainwashing” has largely been along the lines of insulating these older people from the reality of the world, presenting only comforting thoughts that agree with their preconceived notions, and reinforcing their delusions.

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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:13:09am
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gocart mozart  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:13:32am
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dat_said  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:15:00am

re: #176 Thanos

I think our overnight freezes are finally done, so it’s time for me to move out to the back deck and get the baskets set up for planting so we can get the spice plants out of the kitchen…

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We have at least a few more weeks of likely night frost but seedlings are in place and I am looking forward to the annual ritual of volunteering (and buying peppers and tomatoes and eggplants) at the Mother’s Day Friends Plant Sale. Quite an experience for local flower and vegetable plant nerds.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:16:33am

re: #172 Teukka

More like taking any possibility to sell merch… Fucking vulture…

My suspicion is that it was given to him there at the site and he was asked to wear it as a courtesy. I doubt he brought it with him. Thus, it’s a souvenir if anything.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:17:21am

re: #180 gocart mozart

Mrs. Fish regularly reminds me to check on what the Republicans are actually saying, and determine if there is any merit to it, rather than just dismissing it out of hand because it’s from Republicans. While there hasn’t really been anything redeeming coming out from the rabid right in a while, it’s a good reminder not to fall into the same trap of only listening to things that reinforce my preconceived notions. And making the effort to understand it gives me additional insight into how they feel their worldview is unraveling.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:19:16am

re: #176 Thanos

I think our overnight freezes are finally done, so it’s time for me to move out to the back deck and get the baskets set up for planting so we can get the spice plants & etc. out of the kitchen…

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I think my plants are staying indoors for a few more days. I see overnight lows projected here around 30 for the next few days. And I just saw a snow flurry outside.

The catnip could probably go outside and it’d handle this, though it might lose some greenery since it wintered indoors by growing more. (It had a die-off over Christmas since I think my cat-sitter forgot to water it.) The other plants are much less cold tolerant and the cayenne pepper plants already look awful in part because the cat keeps chewing the leaves off.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:20:36am

re: #184 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Catnip is impossible to kill. We have a patch that grows in our former fire pit down below the deck. It’s survived a number of winters and comes back twice as strong every year. Outdoor Cat is, of course, always thrilled when spring finally brings about the return of her favorite drug stash.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:23:48am

re: #185 Nerdy Fish

Catnip is impossible to kill. We have a patch that grows in our former fire pit down below the deck. It’s survived a number of winters and comes back twice as strong every year. Outdoor Cat is, of course, always thrilled when spring finally brings about the return of her favorite drug stash.

Yes, it does quite well during a winter if it doesn’t outright freeze. I had one by my house nestled right up against the wall. During the winter it was small, but very densely grown and remained green. Spring arrived, and with its head start it was about 3’ tall and flowering by June. Massively outperformed my catnip in the nearby planters.

The current plant I suspect is close to root-bound in it’s 10” pot. I don’t have plans on repotting it into anything larger.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:29:50am

re: #142 Nerdy Fish

They’re not the best they can offer; they’re the best they want to offer. They’re not interested in doing anything positive for the country as a whole, only for their select few. The GQP is no longer a party that cares about the country, only about itself and its constituents.

I think it is the best they have to offer. No Republican in a very long time (longer than my life) has wanted to do anything for the country as a whole. There is no time in my life they cared about the country, only power.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:35:29am

TUCKER GOT SACKED!!!

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:38:04am

re: #188 The Pie Overlord!

TUCKER GOT SACKED!!!

WHAT IN THE FRENCH-FRIED FLYING FUCK?!?! That is the absolute LAST thing I imagined happening over there. Speaking of which - did we ever hear any confirmation on if Maria “truth is merely a suggestion” Bartiromo and Judge Boxed Wine actually got axed?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:39:38am

re: #189 Nerdy Fish

WHAT IN THE FRENCH-FRIED FLYING FUCK?!?! That is the absolute LAST thing I imagined happening over there. Speaking of which - did we ever hear any confirmation on if Maria “truth is merely a suggestion” Bartiromo and Judge Boxed Wine actually got axed?

I have not seen any indication that any of three are gone yet.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:44:09am

re: #149 Dave In Austin

My concern is he’s all we got. And who for 28’? I’m really concerned with his age as well. Harris is NOT the answer. I’m pretty un-impressed with her so far. I would only vote for her if she was the last leg standing at this point.

I’m quite impressed with Kamala Harris. Vice-President is normally a near-invisible position, yet the Vice-President has been all over the country and the world promoting the United States abroad and Democratic positions here.

re: #149 Dave In Austin

My concern is he’s all we got. And who for 28’? I’m really concerned with his age as well. Harris is NOT the answer. I’m pretty un-impressed with her so far. I would only vote for her if she was the last leg standing at this point.

There are a number of state and federal officials who have made their mark nationally.

Off-hand I can think of:

Gov. Gavin Newsom (Calif.)
Gov. JB Pritzker (Ill.)
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (Mich.)
Gov. Katie Hobbs (Ariz.)
Gov. Jay Inslee (Wash.)

Sen. Raphael Warnock (Ga.)
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.)
Sen. Tammy Duckworth (Ill.)
Rep. Katie Porter (Calif.)
Rep. Eric Swalwell (Calif.)

Moving up the ladder from lower offices, if you know out-of-state legislators in state or local office they’re already making a mark in wider politics.

Rep. Justin Pearson (Tenn.)
Rep. Justin Jones (Tenn.)
Sen. Machaela Cavanaugh (Nebr.)
Sen. Megan Hunt (Nebr.)
Del. Stacey Plaskett (USVI)
Me (lol)

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:44:57am

Rolling Stone confirms Fucker C got fired.

rollingstone.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:45:16am

press.foxnews.com

And a Fox press release.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:45:22am

re: #188 The Pie Overlord!

Just saw that myself.

FOX News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways. We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor.

Mr. Carlson’s last program was Friday April 21st. Fox News Tonight will air live at 8 PM/ET starting this evening as an interim show helmed by rotating FOX News personalities until a new host is named.

press.foxnews.com

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lawhawk  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:46:48am

re: #193 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

press.foxnews.com

And a Fox press release.

They parted ways.

He got his golden parachute. They got years of ad revenues and sabotaging democracy and weaponizing low-information voters with nonstop agitprop.

Count on it. That’s how this went down.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:47:04am

re: #188 The Pie Overlord!

TUCKER GOT SACKED!!!

That tweet got taken down. Could have been a premature ejection celebration.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:47:14am

Tucker Carlson out at Fox News - effective immediately

Fox News has agreed to part ways with top-rated prime time host Tucker Carlson.

The decision is effective immediately, according to multiple sources.

“We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor,” the network said in a statement.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:47:23am

re: #133 Dangerman

Another aspect to those blue checks is now that they have one and they’re “in” they’re realizing its just not all that.

I remember what a big deal it was getting let in here.

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:47:43am

WaPo has it

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:48:07am

re: #188 The Pie Overlord!

I stand correected; I see the FOX News Channel release saying they’ve parted ways.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:49:19am

They’ve “parted ways.”

Translation: They gave Tucker the choice to jump or be pushed and he chose the former.

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William Lewis  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:49:22am

re: #188 The Pie Overlord!

TUCKER GOT SACKED!!!

Proof?

Edit: I see now. Golden parachute but he’s not poisoning minds nightly, so that’s a slight help to the universe.

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:50:31am

Tucker’s out at Fox!

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:50:50am

re: #203 darthstar

Tucker’s out at Fox!

Mastodon

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:51:24am

Putin isn’t going to like this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:51:36am

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

Yeah the media is crafting a narrative that “Biden is too old” “Biden seems weak” “Kamala is boring” but you know what THE OTHER SIDE ARE ALL CRIMINALS!!!!

They have a point but you vote for the better choice among the candidates. And as you said, the other side is made up of liars, bigots, braggarts, misogynists, cryptonazis, religious zealots, pedophiles and other various criminals.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:52:55am

re: #197 Joe Bacon

Tucker Carlson out at Fox News - effective immediately

Fox News has agreed to part ways with top-rated prime time host Tucker Carlson.

The decision is effective immediately, according to multiple sources.

“We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor,” the network said in a statement.

“Parting ways” sounds an awful lot like “retire or your fired.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:53:30am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember what a big deal it was getting let in here.

Now Mr. Johnson will let any riff-raff in like me. /s

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:54:01am

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Parting ways” sounds an awful lot like “retire or your fired.”

Firing him would imply he did something wrong. And Fox won’t admit that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:54:32am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Cryptonazi: A fascist who got in the ground floor of a cryptocurrency release.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:54:52am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember what a big deal it was getting let in here.

Yeah, the old days when you had to get in during a short window certainly made things interesting. It was sort of like feeding time at Jurassic Park, with all the lizards of yesterday crowded at the gate waiting to see who would join the pack and who’d end up that day’s meal.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:55:21am

re: #195 lawhawk

They parted ways.

He got his golden parachute. They got years of ad revenues and sabotaging democracy and weaponizing low-information voters with nonstop agitprop.

Count on it. That’s how this went down.

Yep. They basically said, “Here’s your resignation letter, effective immediately. We’ll pay out your benefits. Here’s an NDA to sign.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:55:30am

re: #209 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Firing him would imply he did something wrong. And Fox won’t admit that.

Not publicly anyway. They could recommend he go to the farm upstate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:55:33am

The problem is Carlson will shortly pop up elsewhere (I wouldn’t be shocked at all if that was CNN) and keep spewing his hate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:55:43am

re: #210 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Cryptonazi: A fascist who got in the ground floor of a cryptocurrency release.

good alternate definition and probably a lot of overlap with all the people who hide their inner Nazi behind a thin layer of decorum

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:55:57am

re: #214 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is Carlson will shortly pop up elsewhere (I wouldn’t be shocked at all if that was CNN) and keep spewing his hate.

CNN, I doubt even they are that far gone. OANN or Newsmax could certainly snap him up, though.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:56:23am

Tucker’s Out
Tucker’s Out
Tucker’s Out
Now he’s gonna pout

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:56:25am

Keep in mind: TC did not get fired for lying, he got fired for getting caught on tape telling the truth (about how much he hates Trump)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:56:36am

re: #201 Targetpractice

They’ve “parted ways.”

Translation: They gave Tucker the choice to jump or be pushed and he chose the former.

Sounds like this news deserves a new thread.

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:56:43am

2016:

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:56:49am

re: #209 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Firing him would imply he did something wrong. And Fox won’t admit that.

Yet the suddenness of the announcement and there being no indication at the end of last week’s show that he expected anything other than to be on tonight would seem to suggest that somebody upstairs decided he needed to go. Probably spent the weekend negotiating the price of his departure.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:57:02am

So when is Newsmax gonna hire Fucker C?

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TarHellion  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:57:56am

What was $ucker’s last show about? (Aside from the usual). Anything that would have raised alarm bells by the network? Or did something come to light over the weekend regarding his general conduct?

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:58:22am

Looks like Rupert Murdoch thinks $787.5 million is real money.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:59:03am

Companies that want to be international need to do upfront research so they don’t choose an unacceptable name.

“Corresponds to a vulgar derivation of the name of male genitalia”: Inapi rejects registration of Chinese technology brand (T13)

The logo did not help.

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lawhawk  Apr 24, 2023 • 8:59:33am

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Parting ways” sounds an awful lot like “retire or your fired.”

Golden parachutes activated. Count on that.

He’s going away richer for it.

He was able to screw up all their viewers and misinform them for years. He weaponized an audience with nonstop misinformation and agitprop. He was furthering the Fox goal and model, right up to the moment Fox realized he became a liability.

Fox realized that they can make Tucker go away with just more money, and the solution is hike carriage rates even further for cable providers to carry them, regardless of whether anyone wants to watch them or not. They don’t need ad revenue. They have a dedicated revenue stream.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:00:22am

re: #223 TarHellion

What was $ucker’s last show about? (Aside from the usual). Anything that would have raised alarm bells by the network? Or did something come to light over the weekend regarding his general conduct?

My guess is the eye-watering amount that the network had to agree to pay Dominion last week led to a general furor in the boardroom and the demands for immediate “changes” in the network line-up. Particularly because Smartmatic had indicated they have no intention of doing the same and they fully intend to capitalize on the very same shitstorm that scared the network into its settlement with Dominion.

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The Squire of Logos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:00:33am

I just saw the news that the Fish Stick Prince is out at Faux News. I have to wonder if this is part of the settlement with Dominion. Maybe, maybe not. But it does make for a much brighter day!

Hi Lizards!

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:00:47am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Now Mr. Johnson will let any riff-raff in like me. /s

When I joined this place still had a fairly conservative population though it was becoming more reasonable. There were some bumpy engagements then. I was told to go piss up my share of ropes.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:01:11am

re: #221 Targetpractice

Yet the suddenness of the announcement and there being no indication at the end of last week’s show that he expected anything other than to be on tonight would seem to suggest that somebody upstairs decided he needed to go. Probably spent the weekend negotiating the price of his departure.

Yeah, from what I’m seeing here and there on the internet, it looked like TucKKKer fully expected to be broadcasting his show as usual tonight.

Like you said, the weekend was likely spend elbow-deep in negotiations. On the bright side, hey, maybe he can get a slot over in Russia - I hear they love him there.

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steve_davis  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:02:08am

re: #189 Nerdy Fish

WHAT IN THE FRENCH-FRIED FLYING FUCK?!?! That is the absolute LAST thing I imagined happening over there. Speaking of which - did we ever hear any confirmation on if Maria “truth is merely a suggestion” Bartiromo and Judge Boxed Wine actually got axed?

this is all protection against shareholders. you can’t really keep somebody at the network who is in large part responsible for you having to shell out 3/4’s of a billion dollars. And I imagine whoever insures Fox News also said, “Nope, not doing that anymore unless some wholesale changes come through.”

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:02:25am

re: #225 Crush White Nationalism

I LOL’d at that because “pico” is the Czech slang for “pussy”.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:02:28am

A very good indicator that this was anything but planned in advance is that usually when they pull this shit at Faux, they send their personalities on “vacation” and then announce after they’ve been gone a few days that they’re “parting ways.” The fact that Tucker went from a major personality on Friday to out on his ass on Monday says somebody got up Rupert’s ass about making their biggest problem disappear with all possible haste.

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(((Archangel1)))  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:02:44am

Oh happy day!!!

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darthstar  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:02:45am

Mastodon

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TarHellion  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:02:48am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

He’ll be the lead person at RT.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:03:10am

Tucker going to RT? He’s already a big thang in Russia!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:03:28am
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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:03:37am

The folks at RT are gonna be in absolute tears tonight, they’ve lost their #1 source of American-produced propaganda clips.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:03:57am

re: #229 darthstar

When I joined this place still had a fairly conservative population though it was becoming more reasonable. There were some bumpy engagements then. I was told to go piss up my share of ropes.

I got into an exchange with one of the passive-aggressive types within my first couple of days as a lizard. Their nickname eludes my memory currently, but I recall that they lived in Colorado and commented about moving snow a lot in the winter.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:04:04am

re: #204 darthstar

Um. Holy shit!

I’m guessing Fox realized lying has consequences.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:04:22am

Just waiting for the Usual Suspects (tm) to start weighing in that Fucker Carlson was “canceled” and that this is “government censorship by the corrupt Biden administration.”

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:04:44am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

I LOL’d at that because “pico” is the Czech slang for “pussy”.

Then they have a problem in at least two countries thanks to a lack of research.

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:05:49am

Here’s a direct link to the FOX news page:
press.foxnews.com

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:06:18am

Tucker probably won’t go running to another network, at least not immediately. Instead we’ll probably read news in the next few days that one of the usual suspect publishers has cut a check for his first post-Faux book. Perhaps he’ll pen his autobiography, telling the harrowing tale of going from a trust-fund kiddie to a college douchebag to a prime time douchebag before finally being sacked to stave off further financial damage.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:06:26am
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jaunte  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:07:05am

re: #244 Thanos

“interim show helmed by rotating FOX News personalities”

PR release vision of a carnival ride in Hell.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:07:26am

re: #243 Crush White Nationalism

Then they have a problem in at least two countries thanks to a lack of research.

Czechs would have a good belly laugh about it.

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teleskiguy  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:07:48am

re: #220 jaunte

RIP Simon

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danarchy  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:08:21am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

I LOL’d at that because “pico” is the Czech slang for “pussy”.

It is also already in use in linux. the pico editor is the pine composer.

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The Squire of Logos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:08:37am

re: #242 Nerdy Fish

Just waiting for the Usual Suspects (tm) to start weighing in that Fucker Carlson was “canceled” and that this is “government censorship by the corrupt Biden administration.”

Yep, it will be all “Big Woke Brew’s fault!!! From now on I ain’t buyin’ anything but real Patriot beer!”

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TarHellion  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:08:57am

re: #247 jaunte

It will be a Hunger Games type of audition for the 8 p.m. slot, with each host trying to out-fascist the other.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:09:06am

So I think it’s probably safe to assume that everybody else named in Dominion’s suit is currently sweating bullets, if they haven’t already been called to a “confidential meeting” with the folks in HR.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:09:22am

re: #247 jaunte

PR release vision of a carnival ride in Hell.

Translation: We canned his ass so fast we don’t even have a hint at a replacement. We’re just going to throw bodies into the meat grinder until either someone makes it work, or we find someone on the outside who won’t cost us $750M+ with his idiocy.

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wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:09:42am

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m quite impressed with Kamala Harris. Vice-President is normally a near-invisible position, yet the Vice-President has been all over the country and the world promoting the United States abroad and Democratic positions here.

There are a number of state and federal officials who have made their mark nationally.

Off-hand I can think of:

Gov. Gavin Newsom (Calif.)
Gov. JB Pritzker (Ill.)
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (Mich.)
Gov. Katie Hobbs (Ariz.)
Gov. Jay Inslee (Wash.)

Sen. Raphael Warnock (Ga.)
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.)
Sen. Tammy Duckworth (Ill.)
Rep. Katie Porter (Calif.)
Rep. Eric Swalwell (Calif.)

Moving up the ladder from lower offices, if you know out-of-state legislators in state or local office they’re already making a mark in wider politics.

Rep. Justin Pearson (Tenn.)
Rep. Justin Jones (Tenn.)
Sen. Machaela Cavanaugh (Nebr.)
Sen. Megan Hunt (Nebr.)
Del. Stacey Plaskett (USVI)
Me (lol)

Sen. Ron Wyden (Ore.)

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:10:16am

re: #253 Targetpractice

So I think it’s probably safe to assume that everybody else named in Dominion’s suit is currently sweating bullets, if they haven’t already been called to a “confidential meeting” with the folks in HR.

I expect so. With their top white nationalist propagandist being fired, no one is safe.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:10:17am

re: #251 The Squire of Logos

Yep, it will be all “Big Woke Brew’s fault!!! From now on I ain’t buyin’ anything but real Patriot beer!”

Not to mention that the NYT will soon tell us why this is bad for Joe Biden.

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nines09  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:11:14am

Fox appears to be doing damage control.
What will change?
Nuttin.

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teleskiguy  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:11:29am

Tucky Pooh is now in the running as Fuckface’s Vice President.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:11:46am

H O L Y S H I T

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:11:50am

re: #156 Dangerman

they’re not the best
they’ve just got the party in thrall at the moment
and desantos, not so much

Who is the best? What Republicans are not in thrall to the GOP base? There certainly isn’t anyone among the current crop of governors or legislators who are acceptable. Liz Cheney is terrible on almost all issues — except for her objection to overthrowing our government and her support of traditional anti-Russian foreign policy. But she would be the best from our perspective. Every remaining one is terrible in their own way,

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:12:19am

re: #256 Crush White Nationalism

I expect so. With their top white nationalist propagandist being fired, no one is safe.

I mean, they built that whole show’s identity around Fucker Carlson. They invented an entire legal doctrine - “no reasonable person would believe the host of our ‘entertainment’ program is making assertions of fact” - to protect him. To say they were all in on him as their chief propagandist is hardly an overstatement. And yet, as soon as the pocketbook starts taking a hit, he’s outta there.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:12:20am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Now Mr. Johnson will let any riff-raff in like me. /s

you have a scythe

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austin_blue  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:12:24am

re: #252 TarHellion

It will be a Hunger Games type of audition for the 8 p.m. slot, with each host trying to out-fascist the other.

They’ll have Hannity in the 8:00 pm slot.

IF he’s still available…

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:12:48am

Has Gym Jordan opened a congressional investigation yet?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:12:52am

I’m going to stagger back to bed. I was only going to be here a few minutes, and I find that Tucker Carlson and his White Power Hour was unceremoniously canned. That’s a good start to the week.

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:12:55am
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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:13:02am

re: #256 Crush White Nationalism

I expect so. With their top white nationalist propagandist being fired, no one is safe.

I think people expected a shakeup in the staff, but it would be like previous “scandals,” with a few underlings hung out to dry while the people at the top were deemed “too big to fail.” If somebody like Fucker got shown the door, then even Hannity could be next.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:13:43am

I do have to wonder to myself, what’s the possibility that Tucker getting shitcanned was one of the undisclosed terms of the Dominion settlement?

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:13:48am

re: #267 jaunte

Oh, SHIT. God in heaven, if ever You did personal favors for us mere mortals, please… Let there be tapes.

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dat_said  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:14:03am

re: #245 Targetpractice

Tucker probably won’t go running to another network, at least not immediately. Instead we’ll probably read news in the next few days that one of the usual suspect publishers has cut a check for his first post-Faux book. Perhaps he’ll pen his autobiography, telling the harrowing tale of going from a trust-fund kiddie to a college douchebag to a prime time douchebag before finally being sacked to stave off further financial damage.

My guess is that Fox had him sign non-competes and whatever the don’t-bad-mouth-us contracts are called as part of the weekend negotiations of his “parting ways” - so you likely won’t see him on another network in the near-term. Expect him to go the podcast route.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:14:33am
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The Squire of Logos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:14:58am

re: #257 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Not to mention that the NYT will soon tell us why this is bad for Joe Biden.

The NYT Pitchbot is firing that up even as we type.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:14:59am

re: #242 Nerdy Fish

Just waiting for the Usual Suspects (tm) to start weighing in that Fucker Carlson was “canceled” and that this is “government censorship by the corrupt Biden administration.”

or ‘this has been planned for months’

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danarchy  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:15:01am

re: #255 wrenchwench

Sen. Ron Wyden (Ore.)

Not for nothing, but if you are going to run for president charisma is actually important, and Ron ain’t got it. IMO

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:15:06am

re: #271 dat_said

My guess is that Fox had him sign non-competes and whatever the don’t-bad-mouth-us contracts are called as part of the weekend negotiations of his “parting ways” - so you likely won’t see him on another network in the near-term. Expect him to go the podcast route.

Elon can hire him to do PR for Twitter.
/

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nines09  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:15:22am

Maybe they did up Rush Limbaugh’s corpse, tie him to a chair, and let him be their El Cid.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:15:28am

re: #267 jaunte

[Embedded content]

It’s like I said, the general script is they get sent to a farm to play and be happy before Farmer John takes them behind the shed. If he didn’t even get that, then it’s pretty clear they punched his ticket and made clear on his way out the door that if he violated his NDA then there would be hell to pay.

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:15:40am

re: #229 darthstar

When I joined this place still had a fairly conservative population though it was becoming more reasonable. There were some bumpy engagements then. I was told to go piss up my share of ropes.

Glad you stuck it out, I’ve been here since 2006 been in a few dogfights, including with Fjordman, Pam Gellar (er?), and an bunch of assorted Christian nationalists wearing various disguises. I’ve been accused of being black, Jewish, Pakistani, a traitor, Gay, a RINO, a commie, a socialist, female, and numerous other things in various raging flame fests.

The more memorable one was when the “pro-Israeli” Christian Nationalists piled on after I made an innocent comment stating the obvious: that at some point if we wanted to get out of Afghanistan that we were going to have to negotiate with the Taliban. Some people really lost their shit way back then.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:15:49am

Isn’t Vivek Ramaswamy one of the hardcore election denialists right now? What do you want to bet the execs told him to tread lightly around the election stuff in that interview “or else,” and Tucker did Tucker things and got his dander up, four-letter words were exchanged, followed by a “letter of resignation?”

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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:16:42am

re: #269 Dr Lizardo

I do have to wonder to myself, what’s the possibility that Tucker getting shitcanned was one of the undisclosed terms of the Dominion settlement?

Was thinking the same thing. Maybe there was a handshake agreement along those lines.

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wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:17:06am

re: #275 danarchy

Not for nothing, but if you are going to run for president charisma is actually important, and Ron ain’t got it. IMO

And he’s not running. I am for him anyway. Brains and heart should count more than charisma. However, this is the USA.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:17:15am

re: #280 Nerdy Fish

Isn’t Vivek Ramaswamy one of the hardcore election denialists right now? What do you want to bet the execs told him to tread lightly around the election stuff in that interview “or else,” and Tucker did Tucker things and got his dander up, four-letter words were exchanged, followed by a “letter of resignation?”

My bet is that Fox had a “letter of resignation” on file for a few years now. And just finally decided to accept and activate it.

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Markm1960  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:17:58am

re: #188 The Pie Overlord!

TUCKER GOT SACKED!!!

I don’t normally celebrate people losing their jobs but these sh!tbaskets that fox has let go, especially the Swanson guy, deserved to be fired and never work again. They are all menaces to society.

That being said, I’m sure all of them will end up gainfully employed at some other sh!t site or network sooner rather than later. Will CNN hire them for balance? Will it be CBS? 🤮

Edit: is this part of the settlement? Unofficial of course. Will fox become a real news source?

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:19:11am

re: #281 JC1

Was thinking the same thing. Maybe there was a handshake agreement along those lines.

Highly unlikely. It is up to the parties to disclose, or not, the terms of the settlement, as appropriate; but there are no “handshake agreements” in these kinds of disputes. “Put it on paper or it never happened” is the name of the game. Also, I don’t believe that a legally binding settlement between two parties can materially impact a third party, such as termination of employment of an employee based on a legal settlement between the employer and another party. I could be wrong about that, however.

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William Lewis  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:19:16am

re: #284 Markm1960

I don’t normally celebrate people losing their jobs but these sh!tbaskets that fox has let go, especially the Swanson guy, deserved to be fired and never work again. They are all menaces to society.

That being said, I’m sure all of them will end up gainfully employed at some other sh!t site or network sooner rather than later. Will CNN hire them for balance? Will it be CBS? 🤮

60 Minutes!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:19:16am

re: #278 Targetpractice

It’s like I said, the general script is they get sent to a farm to play and be happy before Farmer John takes them behind the shed. If he didn’t even get that, then it’s pretty clear they punched his ticket and made clear on his way out the door that if he violated his NDA then there would be hell to pay.

Yeah, this was very abrupt. Like jaunte’s #267 pointed out, Tucker had an interview ready to go and it was being promoted by FNC.

This is the equivalent of a drumhead trial and summary execution.

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:19:19am

Because of course

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No Malarkey!  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:19:25am

re: #188 The Pie Overlord!

TUCKER GOT SACKED!!!

Today is a GOOD day.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:19:41am

re: #288 EstebanTornado1963

[Embedded content]

Because of course

Welp, that didn’t take nearly as long as I thought.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:19:48am

To give an idea of how out of the ordinary this is, the network had to settle five suits against O’Reilly and lose pretty much all his advertisers before they sent him off on “vacation” and announced days later that he wouldn’t be back.

Fucker signed off on Friday, was scheduled to be back on Monday, and by lunchtime the same day he was out on his ass.

He did something or said something in the last 48 hours that finally pissed off the wrong person at the wrong time.

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TarHellion  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:20:05am

Wonder if Fox has taken down Fucker’s 1/6 “documentary?” And what happens to the thousands of hours of video McCarthy gave him?

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The Squire of Logos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:20:22am

re: #269 Dr Lizardo

I do have to wonder to myself, what’s the possibility that Tucker getting shitcanned was one of the undisclosed terms of the Dominion settlement?

Yep. Fox can find another bullshit talking head to host that program. They save money, not just the $800mil they saved in the settlement, but you know whoever sits in that time slot will cost them less than Tucker ‘permanent constipation face’ Carlson.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:21:07am

O’Reilly
Beck
Kelly
Carlson
Van Susteren
Bolling
Dobbs
Oingo Boingo
Tuckkker

On deck:
Bartiromo
Ingraham
Pirro
Hannity

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:21:27am

re: #292 TarHellion

Wonder if Fox has taken down Fucker’s 1/6 “documentary?” And what happens to the thousands of hours of video McCarthy gave him?

Excellent questions

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:21:33am

re: #288 EstebanTornado1963

[Embedded content]

Because of course

So what will the MAGAts do? Announce a boycott of Faux until they bring back the White Power Hour?

MORE POPCORN!!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:21:53am

re: #289 No Malarkey!

Today is a GOOD day.

LOL I read that in Michael Dorn’s Worf voice.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:22:03am

re: #294 Dr. Matt

O’Reilly
Beck
Kelly
Carlson
Van Susteren
Bolling
Dobbs
Oingo Boingo
Tuckkker

On deck:
Bartiromo
Ingraham
Pirro
Hannity

I’d pay just to be in the room when Judge Box Wine gets her ass sacked.

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:22:09am

Don Lemon gone too

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:22:18am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

LOL I read that in Michael Dorn’s Worf voice.

Funny, I read that as Christopher Judge’s Teal’c from Stargate.

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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:22:34am

re: #294 Dr. Matt

O’Reilly
Beck
Kelly
Carlson
Van Susteren
Bolling
Dobbs
Oingo Boingo
Tuckkker

On deck:
Bartiromo
Ingraham
Pirro
Hannity

I thought the rumor mill had Bartiromo on the outs. Surprised she’s still there.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:22:56am

re: #299 EstebanTornado1963

Don Lemon gone too

THE FUCKING AROUND IS OVER. THE FINDING OUT HAS BEGUN.

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:23:19am

re: #299 EstebanTornado1963

Don Lemon gone too

Don’t know if it’s true because you can’t trust a blue checkmark

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:23:23am

re: #300 Nerdy Fish

Funny, I read that as Christopher Judge’s Teal’c from Stargate.

Another great choice.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:24:02am

I’d like to thank the Murdochs for the early birthday gift. If you fire Hannity before Sunday, I’ll even consider sending them a fruit basket.

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:24:04am

re: #293 The Squire of Logos

Yep. Fox can find another bullshit talking head to host that program. They save money, not just the $800mil they saved in the settlement, but you know whoever sits in that time slot will cost them less than Tucker ‘permanent constipation face’ Carlson.

It probably plays into their strategy right now — with their aging audience they must start regearing towards younger / Latinx audiences.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:24:33am

As Ice Cube said.

TODAY WAS A GOOD DAY

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:24:44am

re: #303 EstebanTornado1963

Don’t know if it’s true because you can’t trust a blue checkmark

NBC is running with it:

nbcnews.com

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:24:50am

re: #305 Targetpractice

I’d like to thank the Murdochs for the early birthday gift. If you fire Hannity before Sunday, I’ll even consider sending them a fruit basket.

Heck, I’d put them on the spiral ham list for Christmas.

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danarchy  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:24:59am

re: #294 Dr. Matt

O’Reilly
Beck
Kelly
Carlson
Van Susteren
Bolling
Dobbs
Oingo Boingo
Tuckkker

On deck:
Bartiromo
Ingraham
Pirro
Hannity

Unfortunately, all you have to do is turn on AM radio to realize how many just like him or worse are salivating at the opportunity this opens up.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:25:11am

re: #307 Joe Bacon

As Ice Cube said.

TODAY WAS A GOOD DAY

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:25:34am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

youtube.com

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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:25:42am

re: #306 Thanos

It probably plays into their strategy right now — with their aging audience they must start regearing towards younger / Latinx audiences.

I can’t wait for Fox News to start showing match results for Mexican Soccer 😂.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:26:06am

After O’Reilly, Beck, and Bolling were fired from Fox, they all went on to lesser careers with even more extreme views. If Tuckkker follows suit, the only thing left for him to be any more extreme is to don a white robe.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:26:16am

please…please…please…please!

Steve Bannon urges Trump to pick Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for VP if Kari Lake ‘not available’

PLEASE! DO IT!

rumble.com

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:26:34am

re: #314 Dr. Matt

After O’Reilly, Beck, and Bolling were fired from Fox, they all went on to lesser careers with even more extreme views. If Tuckkker follows suit, the only thing left for him to be any more extreme is to don a white robe.

Objection: Prosecution presumes he doesn’t already have one in his closet.

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William Lewis  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:27:49am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

LOL I read that in Michael Dorn’s Worf voice.

Holding up a shot glass of prune juice?

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:28:22am

re: #314 Dr. Matt

After O’Reilly, Beck, and Bolling were fired from Fox, they all went on to lesser careers with even more extreme views. If Tuckkker follows suit, the only thing left for him to be any more extreme is to don a white robe.

Today’s “Tucker’s AAMMMMURRRRICA!” show is sponsored by Stormfront…

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:28:23am

Most liked comment over at Mediaite:

Don’t worry, conservatives, I’m sure Rupert will find someone else to lie to your face and insult you behind your back.
~Hedonismo

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:28:48am

re: #300 Nerdy Fish

Funny, I read that as Christopher Judge’s Teal’c from Stargate.

Indeed.

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:29:06am

re: #308 Dr Lizardo

NBC is running with it:

nbcnews.com

I was gonna post a link to Lemons twitter, but you know twitter can’t be trusted

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:29:14am
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No Malarkey!  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:29:20am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

LOL I read that in Michael Dorn’s Worf voice.

I was thinking of Sean Bean’s Boromir voice.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:30:18am

re: #323 No Malarkey!

I was thinking of Sean Bean’s Boromir voice.

Tangentially, that reminds me of one of my favorite entertainment-related jokes, from the S1 Game of Thrones era:

“And what do we say to the god of Death?”
“Sean Bean went that way —>”

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:30:35am

AND NOW…

DON LEMON FIRED FROM CNN

businessinsider.com

Don Lemon has been fired from CNN, the star and network confirmed on Monday.

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wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:30:52am

Monday morning news dump.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:30:54am

Good riddance to them both.

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rhuarc  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:30:54am

I’m finding it hilarious that everybody on the fascism side is quick to rush to Tucker’s defense without knowing anything other than he was fired. I REALLY hope it’s something heinous that will be leaked as to why he was fired so that we can see all these fascists squirm over their previous defense of him. Oh it would be glorious.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:31:14am

re: #325 Joe Bacon

AND NOW…

DON LEMON FIRED FROM CNN

businessinsider.com

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:31:23am

If you’re counting: Tuckkker has now been fired from PBS, CNN, MSNBC, and FOX.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:31:59am

re: #322 Targetpractice

This “parting of ways” is abrupt and pretty much out of nowhere. Like it’s been pointed out, Tucker had an interview (with someone I’ve never heard of, but I figure it’s just some asshat anyway) that FNC was promoting for tonight’s show.

Something serious, with a capital “S”, must’ve happened behind the scenes and we likely won’t know for quite awhile.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:32:48am

re: #331 Dr Lizardo

This “parting of ways” is abrupt and pretty much out of nowhere. Like it’s been pointed out, Tucker had an interview (with someone I’ve never heard of, but I figure it’s just some asshat anyway) that FNC was promoting for tonight’s show.

Something serious, with a capital “S”, must’ve happened behind the scenes and we likely won’t know for quite awhile.

Vivek Ramaswamy, a rabid anti-vaxxer/COVID denialist/Big Lie supporter who is officially a 2024 Presidential candidate, challenging the tangerine wankmaggot.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:32:50am

Hey lizards

So how is Cucker Tarlson doing today?

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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:32:53am

re: #328 rhuarc

I’m finding it hilarious that everybody on the fascism side is quick to rush to Tucker’s defense without knowing anything other than he was fired. I REALLY hope it’s something heinous that will be leaked as to why he was fired so that we can see all these fascists squirm over their previous defense of him. Oh it would be glorious.

Tribalism.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:33:45am

re: #332 Nerdy Fish

Vivek Ramaswamy, a rabid anti-vaxxer/COVID denialist/Big Lie supporter who is officially a 2024 Presidential candidate, challenging the tangerine wankmaggot.

OK, so yeah, some asshat I’ve never heard of.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:33:45am

LOLZ

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:34:07am

re: #335 Dr Lizardo

OK, so yeah, some asshat I’ve never heard of.

LOL, fair enough.

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Teukka  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:34:29am

re: #288 EstebanTornado1963

[Embedded content]

Because of course

Nope. Fake.

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nines09  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:35:39am

re: #338 Teukka

Nope. Fake.

Twitter. Land Of Lies.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:35:57am

re: #288 EstebanTornado1963

[Embedded content]

Because of course

OK, you’re fired too!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:35:58am

I’ve been traveling for a week. What did Don Lemon do?

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The Squire of Logos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:35:59am

re: #314 Dr. Matt

After O’Reilly, Beck, and Bolling were fired from Fox, they all went on to lesser careers with even more extreme views. If Tuckkker follows suit, the only thing left for him to be any more extreme is to don a white robe.

RT. I think that will be his next move after the NDAs expire. They would pay big bucks for him with the idea that he brings an audience with him.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:36:03am

re: #336 Dr. Matt

LOLZ

[Embedded content]

So how many Pulpit Pimps has she scored with?

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:36:28am

re: #332 Nerdy Fish

Vivek Ramaswamy, a rabid anti-vaxxer/COVID denialist/Big Lie supporter who is officially a 2024 Presidential candidate, challenging the tangerine wankmaggot.

Signs seem to point to Fucker deciding he was bigger than the network and the network deciding to correct his misunderstanding of his place in the grand scheme of things.

345
Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:36:53am

re: #341 Dr. Matt

I’ve been traveling for a week. What did Don Lemon do?

Lemon wrote on Twitter that he was “stunned” and that he found out he was terminated from CNN through his agent.

Meanwhile, CNN said they had “parted ways,” according to a statement.

“Don will forever be a part of the CNN family, and we thank him for his contributions over the past 17 years,” the network told the New York Times. “We wish him well and will be cheering him on in his future endeavors.”

The top CNN anchor’s firing comes just hours after Fox News announced that its star host, Tucker Carlson, was out at that network.

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:37:20am

re: #338 Teukka

See, twitter is a den of liars😂

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:37:40am

re: #322 Targetpractice

I’m also wondering if this is only indirectly connected to the Dominion case, possibly something they found running down a lead that surfaced during discovery. It would have to be much more serious than dissing the boss, though, something that would make Tucker toxic even to Fox. We shall see.

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dat_said  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:37:47am

re: #333 Scottish Dragon

Hey lizards

So how is Cucker Tarlson doing today?

He needs some space. He just got out of a toxic co-dependent relationship.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:37:58am

It’s gonna be SO entertaining watching the RWNJs go apeshit on Fox News for getting rid of their golden boy.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:38:09am

re: #345 Joe Bacon

“Parted ways” - corporate lingo for, “You’re fired, asshole.”

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danarchy  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:38:28am

re: #338 Teukka

Nope. Fake.

This one isn’t:

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austin_blue  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:38:40am

re: #333 Scottish Dragon

Hey lizards

So how is Cucker Tarlson doing today?

Probably booking a 2 month’s vacation for his family at a 5-star resort in Antigua to blow 1% of his gilded parachute.

353
Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:38:43am

So when it comes to Fucker C…If you learn to code, anything is easy…

354
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:39:04am

The execs discovered that Lemon and Tucker have the same GRU case officer?

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No Malarkey!  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:39:08am

re: #344 Targetpractice

Signs seem to point to Fucker deciding he was bigger than the network and the network deciding to correct his misunderstanding of his place in the grand scheme of things.

Hope Tucker throws his hat in the ring for the 2024 GOP nomination so he can be humiliated again.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:40:07am

re: #351 danarchy

This one isn’t:

[Embedded content]

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The Squire of Logos  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:40:54am

re: #331 Dr Lizardo

This “parting of ways” is abrupt and pretty much out of nowhere. Like it’s been pointed out, Tucker had an interview (with someone I’ve never heard of, but I figure it’s just some asshat anyway) that FNC was promoting for tonight’s show.

Something serious, with a capital “S”, must’ve happened behind the scenes and we likely won’t know for quite awhile.

Even if it wasn’t part of an agreement with Dominion, it still may well be related to the lawsuit. Maybe some board members simply had enough. I know people were disappointed about the settlement being less than have of the suit, but $700million + isn’t chump change even for Fox.

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austin_blue  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:41:24am

re: #335 Dr Lizardo

OK, so yeah, some asshat I’ve never heard of.

He’s the other South-Asian American who announced a run against TFG for the Presidency in ‘24.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:41:34am
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JC1  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:41:34am

re: #352 austin_blue

Probably booking a 2 month’s vacation for his family at a 5-star resort in Antigua to blow 1% of his gilded parachute.

Dude was worth over 100 million before he ever joined Fox. He didn’t need the money. He’s just an asshole.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:42:21am
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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:42:42am

re: #361 No Malarkey!

BWA HAHAHAHA!

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:44:39am
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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:44:46am

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Teukka  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:45:19am

re: #338 Teukka

Nope. Fake.

re: #340 Dangerman

[Embedded content]

OK, you’re fired too!

Correction, she has two fucking accounts.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:45:52am

re: #357 The Squire of Logos

Even if it wasn’t part of an agreement with Dominion, it still may well be related to the lawsuit. Maybe some board members simply had enough. I know people were disappointed about the settlement being less than have of the suit, but $700million + isn’t chump change even for Fox.

it’s a bit under $1.50 per share

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No Malarkey!  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:45:58am

re: #362 Nerdy Fish

BWA HAHAHAHA!

Reminds me of the scene from Succession; “So this is dad.”

368
Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:46:20am

re: #361 No Malarkey!

LOL but it makes sense that the stock is down. Tucker is, after all, a revenue generator. FNC shitcanning him came as a surprise not only to us, but to the market wonks as well. And they definitely don’t appreciate surprises.

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Orange Impostor  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:46:23am

My completely uninformed guess regarding Carlson was that management gave him a choice of apologizing on-air or being shown the door, and he chose the latter.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:46:59am
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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:47:31am

re: #370 Dangerman

I doubt they will, but that would be the ultimate trifecta.

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Teukka  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:47:33am

Like clockwork. Not that it’s a surprise given his sympathies.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:47:37am

re: #361 No Malarkey!

[Embedded content]

I’m gonna OD on schadenfreude before the day is over.

I want my tombstone to say “FAFO!”

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wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:47:58am

Trump wanted him gone.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:48:09am

re: #370 Dangerman

[Embedded content]

Yeah, go for it, I want my “fired sacks of shit reporters” trifecta TODAY!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:48:26am

re: #373 Targetpractice

I’m gonna OD on schadenfreude before the day is over.

I want my tombstone to say “FAFO!”

377
jaunte  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:48:36am
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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:48:42am
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No Malarkey!  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:49:03am

re: #368 Dr Lizardo

LOL but it makes sense that the stock is down. Tucker is, after all, a revenue generator. FNC shitcanning him came as a surprise not only to us, but to the market wonks as well. And they definitely don’t appreciate surprises.

The Rumor mill was that Pirro and Bartiromo were on the chopping block; this is a much bigger scalp! And I bet tonight you won’t here a peep about Carlson on any Fox News program, as though he had never existed at all.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:49:06am

re: #378 Dangerman

Good. Good. Let the hate flow through you.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:49:12am

re: #373 Targetpractice

I’m gonna OD on schadenfreude before the day is over.

I want my tombstone to say “FAFO!”

can we start day drinking?

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Captain Ron  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:49:32am
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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:49:35am

re: #381 Dangerman

can we start day drinking?

I’ll drink to that!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:49:49am

Tucker’s going to join Trump on the campaign trail. Mark my words.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:49:55am

re: #361 No Malarkey!

[Embedded content]

All markets are currently down including many top movers: ATT is down 3.5%, Tesla 2.6%, United and Delta both down, etc.

BUT, Ford and GM are up! Amen to Detroit!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:50:12am

re: #379 No Malarkey!

The Rumor mill was that Pirro and Bartiromo were on the chopping block; this is a much bigger scalp! And I bet tonight you won’t here a peep about Carlson on any Fox News program, as though he had never existed at all.

No shit that Tucker is a much bigger scalp. Personally, I would’ve considered him un-fireable, at least until a couple hours ago.

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:50:27am

This mole will and won’t stay wacked.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:51:04am

re: #377 jaunte

Will Tulsi Gabbard get Tucker’s timeslot? Post your guess now!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:51:39am
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wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:51:54am

re: #387 jaunte

This mole will and won’t stay wacked.

You’re gonna make me learn how to spell Schrodinger. There’s the one spelck likes.

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gwangung  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:52:16am

I’ll wait for the rumors to spread…while it’s mostly likely to me that Fox asked Carlson to scale back the election conspiracies and he refused, I wouldn’t be surprised at almost anything that might have happened.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:52:20am

NYT headline is on point as usual: “leaving”

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:55:16am

re: #391 gwangung

I’ll wait for the rumors to spread…while it’s mostly likely to me that Fox asked Carlson to scale back the election conspiracies and he refused, I wouldn’t be surprised at almost anything that might have happened.

Yeah, I think it’s a pretty good guess that he was told to cool it for a bit, he talked back thinking that they wouldn’t fire them, and they quickly made clear to him how wrong he was.

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Captain Ron  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:55:28am
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No Malarkey!  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:58:22am
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wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2023 • 9:59:01am

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wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:01:08am

Mastodon

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:01:19am

heh. How soon until a deranged social media post from a compound in Florida appears claiming credit for having Carlson fired for lese majesty against the King.

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Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:01:48am

re: #395 No Malarkey!

[Embedded content]

He did something or said something that pissed off the wrong person.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:02:15am

Today at SCOTUS:

Justices add two cases on liability of officials who block critics on social media

The Supreme Court on Monday morning agreed to weigh in on a question arising out of the widespread use of social media - specifically, whether public officials are acting as government officials, and therefore can violate the First Amendment, when they block people on their personal social media accounts that they use to communicate with the public. The announcement came as part of a list of orders released from the justices’ private conference last week, which also included the denial of several high-profile petitions for review filed by energy companies in lawsuits seeking to hold them responsible for their role in climate change.

The social-media question came to the court in two different lawsuits. One was filed against Michelle O’Connor-Ratcliff and T.J. Zane, two members of a school board in southern California who used Facebook and Twitter to communicate with the public. After O’Connor-Ratcliff and Zane blocked Christopher and Kimberly Garnier, two parents who criticized them, the Garniers went to federal court, arguing that the school board members violated their First Amendment rights by blocking them.

The lower courts agreed. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit ruled that the board members’ blocking of the Garniers constitutes government action, so that the board members violated First Amendment when they blocked the parents.

O’Connor-Ratcliff and Zane came to the Supreme Court last fall, asking the justices to weigh in. They pointed to a similar case, a lawsuit filed against James Freed, the city manager of Port Huron, Michigan, in which they said the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit had reached a different result - a situation in which the Supreme Court is likely to intervene. In that case, Kevin Lindke, a resident of the city, didn’t approve of Freed’s handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, and left critical comments on Freed’s Facebook page. When Freed eventually blocked him, Lindke went to court, where - like the Garniers - he argued that Freed’s actions violated the First Amendment. But the 6th Circuit disagreed. It ruled that because Freed did not operate his Facebook page as part of his duties as the city manager, blocking Lindke did not violate the First Amendment.

Lindke also appealed to the Supreme Court, which on Monday agreed to take up both cases. The justices are likely to hear oral arguments in the fall, with a decision to follow sometime next year.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:03:36am
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austin_blue  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:03:40am

re: #381 Dangerman

can we start day drinking?

Too late here in CDS time zone. It’s 12:01 PM and if you are going to day drink, you have to start before noon.

(looks at half-empty whiskey glass in hand)

Ummm…never mind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:04:37am

re: #402 austin_blue

Too late here in CDS time zone. It’s 12:01 PM and if you are going to day drink, you have to start before noon.

(looks at half-empty whiskey glass in hand)

Ummm…never mind.

You’re still on Other Side of the Pond time, eh?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:04:55am

Over the last 20 years, the right has de-legitimized the Bushes, the military, the FBI, corporate America, mainstream Protestantism (what’s left of it), and various other traditional pillars of American conservatism. Now, the right’s prophet and head witch doctor, Steve Bannon and Glenn Greenwald respectively, have thrown Fox News onto the growing heap what even the right recognizes as RW garbage. All that’s left is confederate feudalism.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:05:31am

Mastodon

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lawhawk  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:05:47am

re: #300 Nerdy Fish

Funny, I read that as Christopher Judge’s Teal’c from Stargate.

James Earl Jones - This is… Fox cleaning house. /

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:05:50am

Dreher is either high as fuck or he tightened his chilice around his neck and he’s hallucinating from oxygen deprivation.

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:05:56am

re: #402 austin_blue

Too late here in CDS time zone. It’s 12:01 PM and if you are going to day drink, you have to start before noon.

(looks at half-empty whiskey glass in hand)

Ummm…never mind.

Can we start day drinking?

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sagehen  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:06:39am

re: #395 No Malarkey!

rampant speculation:

maybe one of the cable systems they’re negotiating carriage fees with used THEIR leverage to demand Tuck’s ouster.

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wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:07:21am

re: #407 Scottish Dragon

Dreher is either high as fuck or he tightened his chilice around his neck and he’s hallucinating from oxygen deprivation.

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Both?

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:07:35am

Anyways this is my first day back in class after my Bell’s Palsy episode on Easter Sunday. Still slurring my speech a bit. Ugh

412
Nerdy Fish  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:08:40am

re: #411 Scottish Dragon

Anyways this is my first day back in class after my Bell’s Palsy episode on Easter Sunday. Still slurring my speech a bit. Ugh

Sorry to hear about that. I hope you are able to get back to relative normal soon.

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wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:09:21am

re: #411 Scottish Dragon

Anyways this is my first day back in class after my Bell’s Palsy episode on Easter Sunday. Still slurring my speech a bit. Ugh

Mine started Jan. 2nd. Movement is returning. My 2nd bout (first was 28 years ago).

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No Malarkey!  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:09:58am

re: #405 Charles Johnson

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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:10:20am

re: #407 Scottish Dragon

Dreher is either high as fuck or he tightened his chilice around his neck and he’s hallucinating from oxygen deprivation.

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Not 25% of its value
Fox has $4bn in the bank ie cash
If I got it right

416
lawhawk  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:10:39am

re: #409 sagehen

rampant speculation:

maybe one of the cable systems they’re negotiating carriage fees with used THEIR leverage to demand Tuck’s ouster.

Cable carriers couldn’t care less.

They just want programming. They’ve been happily taking OAN and Newsmax, so why not Fox with all the crap they spew.

417
austin_blue  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:10:53am

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’re still on Other Side of the Pond time, eh?

Somewhere on the planet, the sun is always over the yardarm, sailor!

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(((Archangel1)))  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:10:58am
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Dangerman  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:12:59am

re: #414 No Malarkey!

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Fired from CNN fox MSnbc

The EGOT for douchebags

420
Florida Panhandler  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:14:19am

re: #314 Dr. Matt

After O’Reilly, Beck, and Bolling were fired from Fox, they all went on to lesser careers with even more extreme views. If Tuckkker follows suit, the only thing left for him to be any more extreme is to don a white robe.

I expect Tucker Carlson to be named Campaign Manager for Trump.

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lawhawk  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:14:19am
422
The Squire of Logos  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:18:07am

re: #395 No Malarkey!

Carriage fees… hadn’t thought about them. That will impact Fox’s negotiating leverage.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:22:42am

re: #412 Nerdy Fish

Sorry to hear about that. I hope you are able to get back to relative normal soon.

Thanks

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:24:17am

re: #413 wrenchwench

I’m a little bit better now, but I still can’t smile, and eating/drinking is difficult

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wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:29:18am

re: #424 Scottish Dragon

I’m a little bit better now, but I still can’t smile, and eating/drinking is difficult

The corner of my mouth is best at recovery so far. Eating and drinking are STILL difficult, the blink is halfway so far. I have an eye dr. appt. Friday, to find out whether I’ve been good enough to my eyeball. Take care. This is one time I can say with complete confidence: It gets better.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2023 • 10:33:36am

re: #411 Scottish Dragon

Hope you will feel better soon!

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Thanos  Apr 24, 2023 • 12:18:57pm

re: #181 dat_said

We have at least a few more weeks of likely night frost but seedlings are in place and I am looking forward to the annual ritual of volunteering (and buying peppers and tomatoes and eggplants) at the Mother’s Day Friends Plant Sale. Quite an experience for local flower and vegetable plant nerds.

Yes, it’s that time here, people are going to town in marking their spaces in the local community garden.


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