Moonchild: “The List (Acoustic)”

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Max Bryk - clarinet, rhodes, whistle

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:04:01pm

The fox kits living under my porch. Picture taken through my screened kitchen window.
And, yes, that extension cord is unplugged.

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BigPapa  May 24, 2023 • 9:13:30pm

They needs boops.

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:21:02pm

re: #2 BigPapa

They needs boops.

I so wish.

But in this crazy world, I concluded that it was better that they remain wary of humans. So I have neither worked to make them friendly nor to harass them away.

I have not yet mowed the back lawn.Nor have I used my back porch. I plan to start doing both at some point in July when the kits are older, more grown, hunting, and their den pretty much abandoned.

And while I have wanted to feed them. I have determined to avoid it if at all possible.

It’s definitely a bummer, but, I think for their best future.

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:21:46pm
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Dr Lizardo  May 24, 2023 • 9:22:19pm

Looks like some Russian servicemen are starting to fret about an upcoming Ukrainian offensive:

Like Prigozhin, “Murz” here foresees that the Russian armed forces currently operating in Ukraine will most likely be unable to withstand a Ukrainian offensive, and be forced to fall back to pre-invasion (2022) borders.

The ideal outcome for a Ukrainian offensive would in fact be to push the Russians out of the Donetsk Basin, sever the land bridge to the Crimean Peninsula, then find a way to take out the Kerch Bridge - or at least render it wholly unusable to rail and road traffic - then just lay siege to the Russian forces trapped there.

And yes, that’s an “ideal outcome”, which is, as always, contingent on the fortunes of war.

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:23:48pm
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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:25:42pm
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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:27:44pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 24, 2023 • 9:29:17pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 24, 2023 • 9:30:31pm

Left hanging on the last thread.

The United States remains in a heightened threat environment. Lone offenders and small groups motivated by a range of ideological beliefs and personal grievances continue to pose a persistent and lethal threat to the Homeland. Both domestic violent extremists (DVEs) and those associated with foreign terrorist organizations continue to attempt to motivate supporters to conduct attacks in the Homeland, including through violent extremist messaging and online calls for violence. In the coming months, factors that could mobilize individuals to commit violence include their perceptions of the 2024 general election cycle and legislative or judicial decisions pertaining to sociopolitical issues. Likely targets of potential violence include US critical infrastructure, faith-based institutions, individuals or events associated with the LGBTQIA+ community, schools, racial and ethnic minorities, and government facilities and personnel, including law enforcement.

(more)

Summary of Terrorism-Related Threat to the United States (Department of Homeland Security, today)

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:32:10pm

Sunglasses - Threat or Menace!

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:34:00pm
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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:40:54pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 24, 2023 • 9:42:43pm

re: #12 ckkatz

And now, thanks to Gates’ vaccine, we all who took shots have nano-Gretas flowing through our veins.

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:48:01pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

And now, thanks to Gates’ vaccine, we all who took shots have nano-Gretas flowing through our veins.

What if Greta had been named Nannette?
Inquiring minds need to know if we would then have nano-nanettes? :)

10^18 minations examination
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10^12 bulls terabull
10^9 lows gigalow
10^6 phones megaphone
2*10^3 mockingbirds 2 kilomockingbird
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10^-9 nannettes nanonannette
10^-12 boos picoboo
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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 9:52:23pm

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Barefoot Grin  May 24, 2023 • 9:55:09pm

re: #15 ckkatz

What if Greta had been named Nannette?
Inquiring minds need to know if we would then have nano-nanettes? :)

10^18 minations examination
10^15 coats petacoat
10^12 bulls terabull
10^9 lows gigalow
10^6 phones megaphone
2*10^3 mockingbirds 2 kilomockingbird
10^2 withit hectowithit
10 cards decacards
10^-1 mate decimate
10^-2 mentals centimental
10^-3 cents millicent
10^-6 scope microscope
10^-9 nannettes nanonannette
10^-12 boos picoboo
10^-15 fatales femtofatale
10^-18 boys attoboy

The off-broadway but actually on Broadway but too small to see show “No No Nano-Nanette” escaped critics’ attention.

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mmmirele  May 24, 2023 • 9:56:18pm

I was making some toast to eat for dinner when I suddenly felt two pairs of eyes on me and realized that I was the current entertainment on Cat TV. That was a weird feeling!

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 10:00:34pm

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jaunte  May 24, 2023 • 10:01:48pm

Mastodon

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Belafon  May 24, 2023 • 10:12:23pm

re: #16 ckkatz

The thing is, if you bury it deep enough, all we have to do is seal the door.

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Dr Lizardo  May 24, 2023 • 10:15:21pm

re: #19 ckkatz

McCarthy would be unlikely to survive a compromise. The MAGAts have him by the cojones - IIRC, all it takes is one of them to challenge his position and he’s in deep shit. He’d need to reach out to House Democrats in order to survive, and if he does that, he’ll quickly find himself primaried from the right.

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jaunte  May 24, 2023 • 10:17:09pm

Volt Typhoon targets US critical infrastructure with living-off-the-land techniques
By Microsoft Threat Intelligence
May 24, 2023

Microsoft has uncovered stealthy and targeted malicious activity focused on post-compromise credential access and network system discovery aimed at critical infrastructure organizations in the United States. The attack is carried out by Volt Typhoon, a state-sponsored actor based in China that typically focuses on espionage and information gathering. Microsoft assesses with moderate confidence that this Volt Typhoon campaign is pursuing development of capabilities that could disrupt critical communications infrastructure between the United States and Asia region during future crises.
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microsoft.com

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Dr Lizardo  May 24, 2023 • 10:20:43pm

re: #19 ckkatz

Someone floated this and actually, it’s not that bad of an idea…

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Captain Ron  May 24, 2023 • 10:24:58pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2023 • 10:29:20pm

re: #24 Dr Lizardo

Someone floated this and actually, it’s not that bad of an idea…

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I’m not a particular fan of freezing spending at current levels given our aging population and the large part of the budget allocated to Social Security and Medicare, though it may be better than other options given the GOP refusal to increase taxes on anyone who is wealthy.

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2023 • 10:32:10pm

re: #5 Dr Lizardo

Looks like some Russian servicemen are starting to fret about an upcoming Ukrainian offensive:

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Like Prigozhin, “Murz” here foresees that the Russian armed forces currently operating in Ukraine will most likely be unable to withstand a Ukrainian offensive, and be forced to fall back to pre-invasion (2022) borders.

The ideal outcome for a Ukrainian offensive would in fact be to push the Russians out of the Donetsk Basin, sever the land bridge to the Crimean Peninsula, then find a way to take out the Kerch Bridge - or at least render it wholly unusable to rail and road traffic - then just lay siege to the Russian forces trapped there.

And yes, that’s an “ideal outcome”, which is, as always, contingent on the fortunes of war.

Personally, I believe that Russia’s generals would consider themselves blessed by whatever deity looks over their nation if they only lose that much territory to Ukraine before the winter. The reality is they simply have nothing left in the cupboard, at least 1/3 or greater of the raw conscripts called up during the “partial mobilization” having already been planted like so many sunflower seeds in the past six months alone. Wagner’s a poor shell of its usual self and the only reason they remain is because the Defense Ministry keeps threatening Prigozhin with charges of treason if he withdraws what few shambling corpses he has left. And the reality that most of the viable portions of the Soviet stockpile that we were told would fuel the war until the factories could get brought up to speed have instead been sold off by corrupt Army officials to line their own coffers has left the Army shipping the few decaying wrecks they can get running from the warehouses to the front lines.

tl;dr: Russia be fucked.

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Dr Lizardo  May 24, 2023 • 10:32:34pm

re: #26 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m not a particular fan of freezing spending at current levels given our aging population and the large part of the budget allocated to Social Security and Medicare. though it may be better than other options given the GOP refusal to increase taxes on anyone who is wealthy.

Yeah, same here. But given the current situation, it might be a necessary, albeit unpleasant, compromise.

Then, the Democrats need to go all-out on taking back the House, keep (and expand) their Senate majority and win the White House next year.

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2023 • 10:35:47pm

re: #28 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, same here. But given the current situation, it might be a necessary, albeit unpleasant, compromise.

Then, the Democrats need to go all-out on taking back the House, keep (and expand) their Senate majority and win the White House next year.

“In other words, it’s a huge shit sandwich, and we’re all gonna have to take a bite.”

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Dr Lizardo  May 24, 2023 • 10:39:05pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

“In other words, it’s a huge shit sandwich, and we’re all gonna have to take a bite.”

That’s a problem we’re facing here in Czech Republic. To their credit, the current government has pretty much said this outright, and so far at least, they’ve been able to withstand the shrieking of the populist left and the extremist right (and in the Czech political spectrum, those are all too often the same thing, the “red/brown” demographic).

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 10:43:33pm

re: #21 Belafon

The thing is, if you bury it deep enough, all we have to do is seal the door.

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 10:49:42pm

re: #18 mmmirele

I was making some toast to eat for dinner when I suddenly felt two pairs of eyes on me and realized that I was the current entertainment on Cat TV. That was a weird feeling!

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ckkatz  May 24, 2023 • 10:57:03pm

Another play on the Ikea meme. This time with a Swedish IFV being sent to Ukraine.

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Dr Lizardo  May 24, 2023 • 11:09:46pm

A very interesting discovery in the South China Sea…

Two ancient shipwrecks, probably dating back to the middle of the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), have been found at a depth of 1,500 meters in the South China Sea, the National Cultural Heritage Administration announced on Sunday in the coastal city of Sanya, Hainan province.

A scientific research team from the Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Deep-sea Science and Engineering discovered the shipwrecks on a continental slope in October. It was the first time that China had found such an expansive ancient shipwreck site so deep under the sea.

The shipwrecks have been named by researchers as “Northwest Continental Slope No 1 and No 2 Shipwrecks in the South China Sea”.

ecns.cn

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BeenHereAwhile  May 24, 2023 • 11:17:28pm

re: #3 ckkatz

I so wish.

But in this crazy world, I concluded that it was better that they remain wary of humans. So I have neither worked to make them friendly nor to harass them away.

I have not yet mowed the back lawn.Nor have I used my back porch. I plan to start doing both at some point in July when the kits are older, more grown, hunting, and their den pretty much abandoned.

And while I have wanted to feed them. I have determined to avoid it if at all possible.

It’s definitely a bummer, but, I think for their best future.

Your wood rat population will take a dive.

Anything you do - other than not interacting with them in any way - will eff them up.

Should they become unwary of humans, and don’t flee all human contact, someone will shoot them for acting like a rabid animal.

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sagehen  May 24, 2023 • 11:17:37pm

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

A very interesting discovery in the South China Sea…

ecns.cn

this was a Doctor Who episode. It did not end well.

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sagehen  May 24, 2023 • 11:19:49pm

DeSantis faith in Musk for campaign launch results in humiliation; Trump gleeful

DeSantis faith in Musk for campaign launch results in humiliation; Trump gleeful

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2023 • 12:10:49am

re: #33 ckkatz

Another play on the Ikea meme. This time with a Swedish IFV being sent to Ukraine.

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That’s really the war in a nutshell: Both countries started this war with basically what they had on-hand and what they could scrounge up on a moment’s notice, but ever since then Ukraine has received a steady supply of support and aid from the West while Russia is left begging its few remaining “allies” for whatever aid they can spare.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 1:23:34am

Looks like Prighozin is keeping his word. Wagner mercs have begun their withdrawal from Bahkmut, with the Russian Army to replace them.

I look at this way…if Bakhmut is retaken in a Ukrainian offensive, then Prighozin can lay the blame directly at the feet of Shoigu and Gerasimov. He can say, “It cost Wagner tens of thousands of lives to capture Bakhmut, and these incompetents have pissed it all away” or something to that effect.

jpost.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2023 • 1:42:58am

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The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face (2006 Remaster)




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No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 1:48:15am

re: #3 ckkatz

I so wish.

But in this crazy world, I concluded that it was better that they remain wary of humans. So I have neither worked to make them friendly nor to harass them away.

I have not yet mowed the back lawn.Nor have I used my back porch. I plan to start doing both at some point in July when the kits are older, more grown, hunting, and their den pretty much abandoned.

And while I have wanted to feed them. I have determined to avoid it if at all possible.

It’s definitely a bummer, but, I think for their best future.

Very wise; let wild animals be wild, even if they are adorable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 1:51:40am

Did Musk intentionally sabotage DeSantis or was it just because he fired too many critical employees?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2023 • 2:08:41am

In local lottery news: had all 6 PowerBall numbers but on different lines, pairing up only two of them.

Winning $4 is nice, winning $190M would have been much nicer.

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2023 • 2:15:51am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did Musk intentionally sabotage DeSantis or was it just because he fired too many critical employees?

Six of one, half a dozen of the other perhaps.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 2:32:08am

re: #19 ckkatz

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McCarthy is committing an act of extortion, but and reporting that means taking a side. being objective

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 2:40:06am

I mean, I’m sure the Russians could patch up some old Polikarpov I-16 if they really needed to…

Russia has called off a showcase biennial air show amid reports of security concerns and military equipment shortages arising from the 15-month war in Ukraine, state news agencies reported Wednesday.

Russia’s International Air and Space Salon (MAKS) has been used by the authorities to display Russia’s achievements in high-end technology since it was inaugurated in 1993.

MAKS XVI, which had been scheduled for July 25-30, has been “postponed,” news agency Interfax reported, citing an unidentified source close the organizers.

Five aviation industry sources who spoke with the Kommersant business daily cited security concerns as the reason for the cancelation.

Instead, the event could either be held next year or switch its format to a “conference” instead of air show, according to Interfax.

themoscowtimes.com

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 2:40:32am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did Musk intentionally sabotage DeSantis or was it just because he fired too many critical employees?

He’s not smart enough to have done this on purpose

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 2:40:57am

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 2:42:39am
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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 2:51:02am

re: #49 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 2:51:05am

re: #8 ckkatz

Yeah. Nothing ‘defies the laws of physics’ — if some weird is happening, it’s because ‘we’ need to refine or thoughts. This is just bullshit.

I need to rerereiterate my desire for a new timeline.

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2023 • 2:53:25am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

Looks like Prighozin is keeping his word. Wagner mercs have begun their withdrawal from Bahkmut, with the Russian Army to replace them.

I look at this way…if Bakhmut is retaken in a Ukrainian offensive, then Prighozin can lay the blame directly at the feet of Shoigu and Gerasimov. He can say, “It cost Wagner tens of thousands of lives to capture Bakhmut, and these incompetents have pissed it all away” or something to that effect.

jpost.com

There’s not much point to keeping them in Bakhmut any longer, they were really acting more as shock troops than anything else. The fight there was effectively a propaganda stunt anyway, there was no value in taking or holding the city other than to say that it could be done. If it falls now, Putin can put the blame on Shoigu and/or Gerasimov, much like I assume he intends to blame the rest of this shitshow of an invasion on them.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 2:55:12am

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The word homeland still make me cringe 20 years after the shrub administration brought it into use. All I hear is Das Faterland.

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2023 • 3:00:45am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

I mean, I’m sure the Russians could patch up some old Polikarpov I-16 if they really needed to…

themoscowtimes.com

Nah, they canceled the show because all their “high-technology achievements” were done with Western imports. Kinda hard to explain to folks that the reason the Su-57 that’s supposedly in active service can’t fly is because the avionics require processors out of a German toaster oven.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 3:03:47am

re: #11 ckkatz

Sunglasses - Threat or Menace!

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hidden because I don’t want to dox myself to randos. As is well documented here at LGF, I work at the FDA in food. My name is splashed across many scientific and policy documents. Vitamins (both) D2 and D3 are an area that I have a shit-ton of knowledge. The twit you linked just makes me seethe.

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2023 • 3:07:47am

Every doctor note since my hospitalization in Dec: “Monitor your sodium intake and keep to a low-sodium diet to avoid fluid retention.”

My doc after getting my blood test results back yesterday: “Your sodium levels are low, I think it might be due to the meds you’re on.”

The joys of modern medicine.//////

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 3:18:56am

re: #26 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m not a particular fan of freezing spending at current levels given our aging population and the large part of the budget allocated to Social Security and Medicare, though it may be better than other options given the GOP refusal to increase taxes on anyone who is wealthy.

Freezing spending comes at the cost of crippling agencies that keep our food supply safe. Both FDA and USDA are working with a massively withered staff and we cannot keep up without money. If you want to return to the early 20th century, cripple our ability to continue to have a safe / unadulterated food supply by cutting off necessary budget increases. Chop off noses to spite our face mentality.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 3:27:10am

re: #49 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

I am still trying to grasp the stupid. As Anymouse has pointed out, flat earthers started as jokes; but had it really become a thing that people believe?

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 3:28:15am

re: #54 Targetpractice

Nah, they canceled the show because all their “high-technology achievements” were done with Western imports. Kinda hard to explain to folks that the reason the Su-57 that’s supposedly in active service can’t fly is because the avionics require processors out of a German toaster oven.

Like I said, they can dust off one these babies…

…and sell it as their new “retro design” model. Completely foolproof to electronic warfare measures, too. Kinda like how there’s a movement back to feature phones with some of Generation Z.

The Russians can market it as a “feature plane” 😄

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 3:39:42am

re: #56 Targetpractice

Every doctor note since my hospitalization in Dec: “Monitor your sodium intake and keep to a low-sodium diet to avoid fluid retention.”

My doc after getting my blood test results back yesterday: “Your sodium levels are low, I think it might be due to the meds you’re on.”

The joys of modern medicine.//////

An interesting point — no, it is because the Instute of Medicine (IOM) had issued blanket guidance on sodium intake that has been picked up by the FDA and made policy. IOM’s idea is that we can intake a minimum of sodium and be ok. There is failed science in that sodium affects people with intrinsic sensativites, but that should not be a blanket statement to state that people shouldn’t consume salt.

I see this policy decision going the same way ‘don’t eat fat’ went. 1600mg of sodium (what IOM wants) is the minimal intake for nerve conduction. It is short sighted.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 25, 2023 • 3:46:59am

Milky Chance - Living In A Haze (Official Video)

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Teukka  May 25, 2023 • 3:47:53am
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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 3:48:43am

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2023 • 3:50:08am

re: #59 Dr Lizardo

Like I said, they can dust off one these babies…

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…and sell it as their new “retro design” model. Completely foolproof to electronic warfare measures, too. Kinda like how there’s a movement back to feature phones with some of Generation Z.

The Russians can market it as a “feature plane” 😄

They can market it alongside their new T-34 model. Marvel at its all-mechanical set-up! No electronic controls whatsoever! The latest in modern technology!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 3:51:45am

re: #49 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

“Jesus and Guns” TV?

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 3:54:05am

So, now that my mental exercises for the morning are over, what fresh hell awaits?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 4:03:44am

re: #58 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

I am still trying to grasp the stupid. As Anymouse has pointed out, flat earthers started as jokes; but had it really become a thing that people believe?

Yes.

My wife’s engineering group from DEC used to meet at a bar and one of their things was to put up plausible-sounding theories for a flat earth as a joke. They discontinued that when people started showing up thinking it was serious.

Both the Bible and Qur’an describe a flat earth. Flat earthers tend to be fundamentalists (but not always).

Couple that with people misinterpreting rules-of-thumb (the curvature of Earth is eight inches per mile squared, which is calculated on a parabola because the maths is easier than a circle) by claiming the drop is due to elevation change and not curvature, or a superior mirage (a favourite is showing the City of Chicago skyline from Benton Harbor, Michigan, ignoring the height distortion of the buildings when such inversions occur and ignoring shorter buildings don’t show up in those mirages when they should on a flat earth).

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Shropshire Slasher  May 25, 2023 • 4:13:16am

A mother’s love.

Brian Laundrie’s mother’s chilling “burn after reading” note in which she promised to bring her son a shovel and garbage bags to get rid of a body was finally made public on Wednesday.

“If you’re in jail I will bake a cake and put a file in it. If you need to dispose of a body. I will show up with a shovel and garbage bags,” Roberta Laundrie wrote in the letter to her son Brian, who confessed to killing his girlfriend Gabby Petito before taking his own life in 2021.

“I just want you to remember I will always love you and I know you will always love me. You are my boy. Nothing can make me stop loving you, nothing can or ever will divide us no matter what we do, or where we go or what we say - we will always love each other,” she wrote in the note.

“If you fly to the moon, I will be watching the skies for your re-entry,” she continued. “If you say you hate my guts, I’ll get new guts. Remember that love is a verb not a noun. It’s not a thing it’s not words. It is actions. Watch people’s actions to know if they love you - not their words.”

nypost.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 4:21:18am

More on flat earthers: In the modern day people believe that people in ancient civilisations or the Middle Ages thought the earth was flat (that is false: sailors and such knew the earth was round and ancient Greeks had calculated the approximate diameter of Earth).

In the XIX Century, English writer Samuel Bedford used a rail-straight canal six miles long to disprove the curvature of Earth, with an experiment called the Bedford Level Experiment in 1838. He wrote in his pamphlet Zetetic Astronomy in 1849 (the Zetetic Society was the first organised flat-earth group):

If the earth is a globe, and is 25,000 English statute miles in circumference, the surface of all standing water must have a certain degree of convexity—every part must be an arc of a circle. From the summit of any such arc there will exist a curvature or declination of 8 inches in the first statute mile. In the second mile the fall will be 32 inches; in the third mile, 72 inches, or 6 feet, …

The experiment involved him standing in a canal with a telescope just above the water, while a rowboat with a fixed flagstaff slowly rowed away. In the rule-of-thumb that the Earth drops away eight inches per mile squared, the flagstaff should have disappeared shortly, but it did not. That was his proof Earth was flat, as the mast should have been eleven feet below the horizon after six miles.

That experiment was debunked some years later in 1870 over a bet with a qualified surveyor, who argued Bedford failed to take atmospheric refraction into account.

He debunked the Bedford experiment by putting a horizontal sight line across the canal to negate the visual effect of refraction.

The referee awarded the surveyor the wager, Bedford accused him of cheating, and was eventually jailed for attempting to murder him when he wouldn’t give him the wager back.

Flat earthers in England continued to try to debunk the debunk without success.

The problem with flat earthers is that like other fundamentalists, when you provide the evidence showing their position is erroneous, they double down with more conspiratorial bullshyte. You cannot talk the flat earther out of the position they talked themselves into. Moreover, like any other religious apologetics, they keep bringing up points refuted a thousand times (failed experiments or thought experiments).

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Shropshire Slasher  May 25, 2023 • 4:23:03am

Kevin Monahan, the individual who gunned down an innocent lady in his driveway, had two additional charges brought against him, however his “Murder two” charge is being downgraded from intentional murder to reckless murder. Sorry I couldn’t find an article, only a video news story.
news10.com

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TarHellion  May 25, 2023 • 4:29:05am

re: #63 Nerdy Fish

Ran into some difficulty. So it goes…

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 4:32:59am

Oath Keepers Founder to Be Sentenced for Seditious Conspiracy in Jan. 6 Attack
Stewart Rhodes’s crimes in the Capitol attack warrant 25 years in prison, prosecutors say

Rhodes’s sentencing hearing, at a federal courthouse just blocks from the Capitol, comes six months after a jury found him and another Oath Keepers member, Kelly Meggs, guilty of seditious conspiracy, the gravest charge the Justice Department has levied in the more than 1,000 prosecutions stemming from the Jan. 6 attack.

Ahead of Thursday’s hearing, federal prosecutors recommended that Rhodes receive a 25-year prison term that, if ordered, would be the stiffest punishment to date in a conviction connected to the Capitol assault.

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No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 4:34:22am

re: #72 Thanos

Oath Keepers Founder to Be Sentenced for Seditious Conspiracy in Jan. 6 Attack
Stewart Rhodes’s crimes in the Capitol attack warrant 25 years in prison, prosecutors say

I hope he gets at least 15-20. That should keep him in prison for most of the rest of his life, assuming a GOP President doesn’t pardon him.

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 4:35:54am

re: #73 No Malarkey!

I hope he gets at least 15-20. That should keep him in prison for most of the rest of his life, assuming a GOP President doesn’t pardon him.

Hush! ….

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 4:37:38am

Cops: Billy Joel Song Was Arson Soundtrack
“We Didn’t Start the Fire” was blaring at torched building

As detailed in a probable cause statement, Duluth Police Department officers were dispatched to the duplex around 4 AM following a 911 call. When first responders arrived, “they saw the upstairs apartment in flames with ‘We Didn’t Start the Fire’ blaring from the upstairs apartment.”

Carlson, who purchased the building in 2005, lives upstairs and rents out the downstairs space in the property, which was built in 1901.

The downstairs tenant told cops that he was awoken by the sounds of Carlson “smashing glass and breaking things” inside the upstairs unit. A neighbor reported seeing Carlson “wearing a helmet and smashing his own windows” around 3:30 AM. The witness added that he saw Carlson “under his truck with gas cans, going in and out of the house” before seeing “a flash like a fireball come from the upstairs apartment.”

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No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 4:39:42am

In a pleasant surprise, a Republican on a Louisiana Committee killed a bill banning gender affirming care for minors because he believes in the patient-doctor relationship to make medical decisions.

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 4:44:47am

Ron DeSantis Is All In—on Creating an American Autocracy
His plan to outflank Trump would scale up the calculated system of repression he designed in Florida.
PEMA LEVY — Mother Jones

“Our government is a government of laws, not a government of men,” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis declared last August, standing at a podium in Tampa with a phalanx of armed officers behind him. “That means that we govern ourselves based on a constitutional system.” The occasion was a triumphant press conference announcing his suspension of Andrew Warren, an elected county prosecutor who, DeSantis alleged, had put himself above the law after the Supreme Court rolled back abortion rights by signing a pledge not to prosecute related cases. That evening, DeSantis appeared on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show to squeeze every ounce of publicity out of the affair. “There’s a lot of line prosecutors in that office that are very happy that this was done,” DeSantis boasted. “We took it seriously, we did a thorough review, and we pulled the trigger today.”

DeSantis, in his telling, had removed a tyrant to benefit the less powerful. But what happened is a stark example of the opposite: an autocratic governor overturning the will of the people to punish his enemies for political gain. It was DeSantis who had placed himself above the law.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 4:45:20am

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 4:51:10am

re: #78 teleskiguy

Millions of Americans want to destroy human beings, especially their fellow Americans who are not cis white Christians. Millions. And it bears out in daily mass shootings.

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 4:51:23am

The Human Brain Shows a Weird Preference For Sounds From The Left

According to the brain scans of 13 adults, positive human sounds, like laughter, trigger stronger neural activity in the brain’s auditory system when they are heard from the left-hand side, suggesting the human auditory cortex is specially tuned to the direction of sounds that make us happy.

Just why there’s a preference at all isn’t clear - the experiments focused only on changes in activity in the auditory cortex. How such a change translates into someone’s perception of those sounds is unknown and would need to be tested in future research.

Sounds plausible, but … I heard that from my left side.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 4:51:53am

recapping

tfg - still indicted 30+ times, still adjudicated a sexual perv
santos - still indicted
carlson - still fired
limbaugh - still dead
desantis - still not president
musk - still incompetent

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 4:52:01am

re: #70 Shropshire Slasher

Moran weighs in on the new charges:

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 4:52:48am

I never carried a weapon on me daily, until this year.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 4:53:30am

re: #77 Thanos

An autocrat did not recognize prosecutoral discression. The law is not a hammer. Unless you’re an autocrat.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 4:54:01am

re: #58 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

I am still trying to grasp the stupid. As Anymouse has pointed out, flat earthers started as jokes; but had it really become a thing that people believe?

it’s been going on a long time
CSICOP / The Skeptical Inquirer have been fighting it since the 70’s / 80’s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 4:54:34am

re: #53 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

The word homeland still make me cringe 20 years after the shrub administration brought it into use. All I hear is Das Faterland.

Das Old Fartenland

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 4:54:38am

re: #70 Shropshire Slasher

Can’t tell if you’re broadcasting if this is good news or bad news for the murderer. Troll.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 4:55:32am

re: #58 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

I am still trying to grasp the stupid. As Anymouse has pointed out, flat earthers started as jokes; but had it really become a thing that people believe?

It is hard to tell when people are so post-deconstructively ironic that they are in fact serious.

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 4:55:50am

re: #79 teleskiguy

Millions of Americans want to destroy human beings, especially their fellow Americans who are not cis white Christians. Millions. And it bears out in daily mass shootings.

We’ve been breeding a culture of casual violence for decades. When I say, “casual violence,” I mean that violence is being pushed as an acceptable resolution to everyday problems. Your woman’s cheating on you with another man? Beat him up or shoot him. Homeless guy giving you a little too much guff when you’re walking downtown? Beat him up or shoot him. Some asshole cuts you off and nearly causes a wreck on the highway? Chase him down and beat him up or shoot him. That one asshole from Texas who said, “It’s 2023, you can’t just go knocking on doors [or you’re liable to get shot]” gave away the store. Americans are being conditioned to exercise violence at the drop of a hat.

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 4:56:07am

re: #84 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

An autocrat did not recognize prosecutoral discression. The law is not a hammer. Unless you’re an autocrat.

…and then all of your enemies have heads shaped like nails.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 4:56:29am

re: #62 Teukka

An 11-year-old Mississippi boy who was shot by a police officer after he called 911 for help is recovering after being released from the hospital, according to his family.

If there ever was a case for “Defund the police”.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 4:57:02am

The current Supreme Court, will it merge the 2nd Amendment with the 1st?

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 4:57:33am

Violence is free speech in MAGA America.

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 4:58:11am

re: #92 teleskiguy

The current Supreme Court, will it merge the 2nd Amendment with the 1st?

No, because the 2nd Amendment takes precedence over the 1st. The individual, unlimited right to keep and bear arms is the most important thing in our Constitution. After all, you’ve heard them all say before, without the 2nd Amendment, we wouldn’t have any of the others.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 4:59:40am

re: #94 Nerdy Fish

Shooting people is freeze peach. Choking homeless people to death on the subway? Just protecting freedumb.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 25, 2023 • 5:00:09am

re: #93 teleskiguy

Violence is free speech in MAGA America.

If you are a white privileged male.

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 5:00:22am

Richard Barnett, who put his feet on Nancy Pelosi’s desk, is sentenced to over 4 years

WASHINGTON — An Arkansas man who propped his feet on a desk in then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office in a widely circulated photo from the U.S. Capitol riot was sentenced Wednesday to more than four years in prison.

Richard “Bigo” Barnett became one of the faces of the Jan. 6 riot by supporters of then-President Donald Trump, and U.S. District Judge Christopher Cooper said in announcing that sentence that Barnett seemed at times to enjoy the notoriety.

“All the folks who follow ‘Bigo’ need to know the actions of Jan. 6 cannot be repeated without some serious repercussions,” Cooper said, alluding to the media attention and social media following Barnett attracted after the riot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 5:01:05am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The problem with flat earthers is that like other fundamentalists, when you provide the evidence showing their position is erroneous, they double down with more conspiratorial bullshyte. You cannot talk the flat earther out of the position they talked themselves into. Moreover, like any other religious apologetics, they keep bringing up points refuted a thousand times (failed experiments or thought experiments).

This is their way of letting you know that they get to determine reality. Sociopathic gaslighting on a truly “global” scale.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 5:01:48am

The fact that Daniel Penny has a $2 million defense fund makes me want to buy an AR-15 to destroy human beings.

I’ll never do that. Still, we humans fucking suck.

Yes, I am in a mood this morning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 5:02:42am

re: #78 teleskiguy

The AR-15 was designed to destroy human beings who threaten our Freedoms. If you own one, you got it on the intent or desire to destroy human beings who would try to take away our God-Given Rights. End of story.

/

Fixed it fer y’all

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 5:04:00am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You’re an ex-pat. You have no idea. You think you’re joking. I don’t see it as a joke. I fucking live in fear in public places now.

Fuck you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 5:04:25am

re: #89 Nerdy Fish

We’ve been breeding a culture of casual violence for decades. When I say, “casual violence,” I mean that violence is being pushed as an acceptable resolution to everyday problems.

In an ideal NRA world, we would make brandishing or even firing a gun a form of protected free speech, basically combining the 1st and 2nd Amendments into one Patriotic Superamendment.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 5:05:02am

bbl

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 5:05:19am

re: #99 teleskiguy

The fact that Daniel Penny has a $2 million defense fund makes me want to buy an AR-15 to destroy human beings.

I’ll never do that. Still, we humans fucking suck.

Yes, I am in a mood this morning.

I don’t think anyone can blame you; I certainly don’t. I’m so fed up with this me-only culture that the right wing has been building up. “It’s all about me and what I want, nobody else matters.” You can see it in the “parental choice” book-banning bills; they want to enable each individual parent to get their way (or at least, the “right kind” of parents). It’s the exact antithesis of what Jesus would want - He called for us to be selfless, humble, generous, and kind - but the followers of White American Jesus are desperate to exercise their power while they still have it, and try to bring about their supposed Christian utopia by force.

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 5:06:05am

re: #99 teleskiguy

The fact that Daniel Penny has a $2 million defense fund makes me want to buy an AR-15 to destroy human beings.

I’ll never do that. Still, we humans fucking suck.

Yes, I am in a mood this morning.

We couldn’t f’in tell friend… have some coffee, it’s Thursday, we have a downhill coast from here into the weekend.

The Small Faces - Itchykoo Park (1967)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 5:11:25am

Today in old US Army military training films, the iconic TF35-4176 (1970. 13:45)

Military Etiquette for Women in Service | US Army Training Film | 1970

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Belafon  May 25, 2023 • 5:15:51am

re: #80 Thanos

The Human Brain Shows a Weird Preference For Sounds From The Left

Sounds plausible, but … I heard that from my left side.

Interesting. I’m not entirely surprised. Our brains aren’t symmetrical. We don’t have exactly the same functions on each side. And so I suspect the part of the brain that handles sounds from the left is is closer to the emotional processing part of the brain.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 25, 2023 • 5:16:00am

re: #87 teleskiguy

Can’t tell if you’re broadcasting if this is good news or bad news for the murderer. Troll.

I am sorry that a close friend of yours passed away recently. I am concerned for your well being, and I hope that you reach out and ask for help. Help will be given if asked.

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No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 5:16:59am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

An 11-year-old Mississippi boy who was shot by a police officer after he called 911 for help is recovering after being released from the hospital, according to his family.

If there ever was a case for “Defund the police”.

Speaking of which, the 95 year old woman tased by police because she was holding a steak knife has died of her injuries.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 5:17:27am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did Musk intentionally sabotage DeSantis or was it just because he fired too many critical employees?

Yes.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 25, 2023 • 5:21:25am
Many people go through short periods of time where they feel sad or not like their usual selves. Sometimes, these mood changes begin and end when the seasons change. People may start to feel “down” when the days get shorter in the fall and winter (also called “winter blues”) and begin to feel better in the spring, with longer daylight hours.

In some cases, these mood changes are more serious and can affect how a person feels, thinks, and handles daily activities. If you have noticed significant changes in your mood and behavior whenever the seasons change, you may be suffering from seasonal affective disorder (SAD), a type of depression.

In most cases, SAD symptoms start in the late fall or early winter and go away during the spring and summer; this is known as winter-pattern SAD or winter depression. Some people may experience depressive episodes during the spring and summer months; this is called summer-pattern SAD or summer depression and is less common.

nimh.nih.gov.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 5:21:45am

re: #109 No Malarkey!

Speaking of which, the 95 year old woman tased by police because she was holding a steak knife has died of her injuries.

Holding a steak knife while in her walker

all they had to do was take away her walking aid.

Defuck the police

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darthstar  May 25, 2023 • 5:22:32am

Tasty birdie.

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 5:23:20am

New from Jungle

Jungle - Dominoes (Official Video)

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 5:23:29am

Morning All…..

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 5:23:36am

Yeah one of the Usual Suspects…

Out-of-state megadonor bankrolling Ohio measure to limit voter power

rawstory.com

An out-of-state billionaire is bankrolling a deeply unpopular measure to limit the power of Ohio voters to decide on issues such as abortion, cannabis legalization and police accountability.

The proposed constitutional amendment faced bipartisan opposition as soon as it was introduced in January, but Wisconsin-based GOP megadonor Richard Uihlein has funneled $1.1 million through the recently formed Save Our Constitution PAC to run ads favoring the bill and funded smaller efforts to get it passed, reported The Intercept.

“It’s hard to come up with a better example of one individual — who, by the way, is of course not from Ohio and has no connection whatsoever to Ohio — using nothing but raw financial power to interrupt democracy,” said Eli Szenes-Strauss, political director at Public Wise. “It’s a broader project of enforcing political power for the hard-right-end of the Republican party.”

Ohio voters could decide on several ballot measures in November on abortion rights, legal weed and qualified immunity for police officers, but Uihlein and extremist Republicans are backing a separate measure in an August special election that would amend the state constitution to raise the threshold for citizen-led constitutional amendments from a simple majority to a 60-percent supermajority.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 5:26:20am

re: #115 Dave In Austin

Morning All…..

“They are the Ladies Auxiliary of the Proud Boys.”

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 5:31:17am

I’m certain that my fellow lizards will join me in declaring this article bogus ///

No, you don’t have a reptilian brain inside your brain
The myth of the reptilian brain is tenacious - but wrong.

The concept of a reptilian brain is part of the myth of the triune brain, a theory that was conceived by the doctor Paul D. MacLean in the 1960s.
Carl Sagan popularized this way of thinking in his book The Dragons of Eden, published in 1977.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 5:33:10am

And it’s Thursday????? And we’re off on a new adventure!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 5:34:42am

re: #115 Dave In Austin

Morning All…..

Regrettably the site is up. (momsforliberty dot org)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 25, 2023 • 5:35:15am

re: #59 Dr Lizardo

Like I said, they can dust off one these babies…

[Embedded content]

…and sell it as their new “retro design” model. Completely foolproof to electronic warfare measures, too. Kinda like how there’s a movement back to feature phones with some of Generation Z.

The Russians can market it as a “feature plane” 😄

Polikarpov I-16. This used a licensed foreign engine, the American Wright Cyclone.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 5:37:07am
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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 5:37:17am

re: #108 Shropshire Slasher

Seriously, fuck off. You show up here every morning posting stupid shit from the NYPost and Daily Mail looking to get a rise out of the board, now you feign compassion.

The next time you feel like being nice to me, don’t. It’s wholly out of character.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 5:37:49am

OK, really this time…

bbl

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gocart mozart  May 25, 2023 • 5:39:29am
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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 5:40:15am

Yeah Wisconsin Republicans. Let 14 year olds work in bars.

What could go wrong?

Wisconsin GOP slammed for ‘potentially disastrous’ plan to let 14-year-olds work in bars

apnews.com

Republicans in Wisconsin think they’ve come up with a plan to solve a shortage of workers in their state — and it involves letting children as young as 14 serve alcohol in bars.

Wisconsin Republicans are pushing for a plan that would establish the lowest age limit in the country for children to be able to legally work in bars.

And the Wisconsin GOP isn’t the only state Republican Party looking at loosening child labor laws, as the AP notes that the GOP-led Ohio legislature “is on track to pass a bill allowing students ages 14 and 15 to work until 9 p.m. during the school year with their parents’ permission,” a time that is “later than federal law allows, so a companion measure asks the U.S. Congress to amend its own laws.”

Added to this, Republican-led states such as Arkansas and Iowa have also removed child labor restrictions with the aim of making it easier for employers to hire teen workers who are more likely to accept lower pay than adult workers.

All part of Christopher Rufo’s plan to shut down public schools.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 5:42:10am

re: #119 Dave In Austin

And it’s Thursday????? And we’re off on a new adventure!

There is a whole lot of Christian Oppression Olympics competitors in that thread.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 25, 2023 • 5:42:32am

re: #123 teleskiguy

Seriously, fuck off. You show up here every morning posting stupid shit from the NYPost and Daily Mail looking to get a rise out of the board, now you feign compassion.

The next time you feel like being nice to me, don’t. It’s wholly out of character.

We both look at the world differently, and I appreciate your viewpoint.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 5:46:17am

The troll keeps dragging me back in.

re: #128 Shropshire Slasher

We both look at the world differently, and I appreciate your viewpoint.

I DON’T appreciate your viewpoint. You’re one of those “the cruelty is the point” dudes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 5:48:30am

Today the Unicameral is to take up confirming the new Gov. Pillen political appointee as Chief Medical Officer, who would be the person to determine under the anti-trans hate law which hormones will be legal to prescribe in the state.

The filibuster continues, today to block his confirmation. The prescription of hormones has not changed in the state as that continues under evidence-based medical rules until a new medical officer is appointed.

Protests will also continue at the capital.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 5:50:05am

re: #111 Shropshire Slasher

This, coming from you, I see as nothing other than mockery.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 5:52:21am

re: #99 teleskiguy

The fact that Daniel Penny has a $2 million defense fund makes me want to buy an AR-15 to destroy human beings.

I’ll never do that. Still, we humans fucking suck.

Yes, I am in a mood this morning.

I’ve been in a mood since Monday. I feel your anger. I have a few friends who view it differently. My wife listens. My best friend since 7th grade asks what is going on and how do I help. One of my toxicologists who is often on my review team sends me positive thoughts. My other bff girl friend sends me anger.

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2023 • 5:55:31am

re: #81 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

recapping

tfg - still indicted 30+ times, still adjudicated a sexual perv
santos - still indicted
carlson - still fired
limbaugh - still dead
desantis - still not president
musk - still incompetent

Franco - Still dead

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 5:55:32am

re: #126 Joe Bacon ✅

I think we’ve all ranted about this — child labor is retutning. We are a regressive nation.

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 5:56:48am

MMMMMmmmmm … tasty

Hermanos Gutiérrez - “Thunderbird” [Official Music Video]

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Shropshire Slasher  May 25, 2023 • 6:07:36am

re: #131 teleskiguy

This, coming from you, I see as nothing other than mockery.

I am sorry Charlie. I don’t mean it in that way. I will stop.

Take care.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 6:07:49am

Of course she chimed in…

Candace Owens: ‘You’re gay or you’re a pervert’ if you shop at Target over trans-inclusive wear

alternet.org

The Daily Wire host Candace Owens used a portion of her show Wednesday to spew anti-trans rhetoric in response to the conservative-led backlash Target is currently facing for selling transgender-inclusive items.

Media Matters for America shared a clip of the right-wing pundit’s rant, which began with Owens saying, “Just in case you think that conservatives are wrong or are joking when we say this stuff is satanic, Target actually hired a satanic designer. I’m not kidding. This designer identifies as a Satanist.”

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dat_said  May 25, 2023 • 6:09:20am

re: #126 Joe Bacon ✅

Yeah Wisconsin Republicans. Let 14 year olds work in bars.

What could go wrong?

Wisconsin GOP slammed for ‘potentially disastrous’ plan to let 14-year-olds work in bars

[…]

I used to deliver ice and occasionally some meals to the hotel bar from the hotel restaurant when I was 16. Awkward enough dealing with crude comments from drunk Texan oilmen at that age but I frequently saw my female high school classmates in the bar. More than once had the early Monday morning conversation “Don’t tell my dad”.

As for easing child labor laws as a means to handle a worker shortage, I’m not that will be as effective as the proposer’s dream. Bismarck ND can’t even find enough teenagers and college students to be lifeguards at $12 to $14 an hour for their three public pools.

So, an ineffective solution that will heavily impact most those who are vulnerable and easily exploited (perhaps that’s the whole point).

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 25, 2023 • 6:16:12am

From 2020:

SLEAZY JET Boozy woman, 20, begged men for ‘mile-high club’ sex before biting crew in four-hour rampage on Eithad flight

Demi Burton caused chaos as she flew back to the UK from Abu Dhabi after drinking too much red wine.

Demi Burton was jailed for six months after she admitted being drunk on an aircraft and five charges of assault

The 20-year-old shouted “you may as well just land the plane now then” after being refused any more alcohol on the Etihad flight.
A court heard it then took six crew members and passengers to restrain her as she tried to head butt and kick them, and she was arrested when the plane landed in Manchester.

Prosecuting Miss Claire Brocklebank, said: “It appears she was drunk before getting on the flight and she started making a number of inappropriate sexual comments to a number of male passengers on the flight.

Apparently nobody took her up on it.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 6:16:55am

re: #77 Thanos

Ron DeSantis Is All In—on Creating an American Autocracy
His plan to outflank Trump would scale up the calculated system of repression he designed in Florida.
PEMA LEVY — Mother Jones

“Our government is a government of laws, not a government of men,” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis declared last August”

Who makes the laws?

Isn’t it “men”?

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 6:17:11am

re: #141 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Apparently nobody took her up on it.

Gee, I can’t imagine why.

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Thanos  May 25, 2023 • 6:18:17am

re: #142 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

“Our government is a government of laws, not a government of men,” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis declared last August”

Who makes the laws?

Isn’t it “men”?

yes, and even Women too!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 6:18:51am

re: #131 teleskiguy

This, coming from you, I see as nothing other than mockery.

Don’t engage. Shrophire is a bothsiderism troll. His opinions are shit.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 6:21:44am

re: #145 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

He needed to hear this and I hope he fucking thinks about it.

re: #129 teleskiguy

I DON’T appreciate your viewpoint. You’re one of those “the cruelty is the point” dudes.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 6:23:52am

re: #101 teleskiguy

You’re an ex-pat. You have no idea. You think you’re joking. I don’t see it as a joke. I fucking live in fear in public places now.

Fuck you.

Objectively, the US is still very safe.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 6:26:14am

re: #147 JC1

I see people open carrying everyday. It’s different, of course, out here in rural Colorado. Still, I don’t feel safe. There’s too many guns.

149
jeffreyw  May 25, 2023 • 6:27:16am

A Hot Dog is a Sammich

Good morning!

150
Belafon  May 25, 2023 • 6:27:37am

Today is my youngest son’s last day of high school.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 6:30:28am

re: #146 teleskiguy

He needed to hear this and I hope he fucking thinks about it.

Yeah, but ne will not. He is more dense than a neutron star.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 6:31:28am

re: #148 teleskiguy

I see people open carrying everyday. It’s different, of course, out here in rural Colorado. Still, I don’t feel safe. There’s too many guns.

Out here I occasionally see people open-carrying in the Nebraska Panhandle, but only hunters. Some ranchers and farmers openly carry varmint guns.

We don’t have dipshytes here who parade around with guns terrorising people though. Those kinds of protests work better in cities rather than areas with less than two people per square mile.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 6:33:35am

re: #118 Thanos

I’m certain that my fellow lizards will join me in declaring this article bogus ///

No, you don’t have a reptilian brain inside your brain
The myth of the reptilian brain is tenacious - but wrong.

Not sure how the study the article cites (cell types in different parts of the brain) has any relevance on this. Should be looking at larger structures in the brain. An analogues study would claim that genes haven’t been evolutionarily preserved because the same base pairs exist throughout the genome.

Not saying that the article is wrong, just that the study they mention doesn’t support what they’re saying.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 6:34:43am

There were dozens of arrests this winter on Vail Mountain on charges of brandishing a gun. I’ve never seen that before.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 6:35:14am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More in that thread:

Actually that is a treaty, and adopted unanimously after being submitted to Congress by President Washington. As a treaty which has never been repealed, it is actually a law binding on all the states.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 6:42:54am

re: #148 teleskiguy

I see people open carrying everyday. It’s different, of course, out here in rural Colorado. Still, I don’t feel safe. There’s too many guns.

I agree that things would be better with far fewer guns around. I just mean that if you look at the per capita statistics for violent crimes, the US today is a very safe country.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 6:43:38am

Feds want 25 years…not enough…should be more…

talkingpointsmemo.com

Federal prosecutors argued in a sentencing memorandum earlier this month that Judge Mehta should go further than sentencing recommendations require and order the Oath Keepers leader to spent 25 years behind bars.

Prosecutors described Rhodes has having “talents for manipulation” and “vast public influence” derived from his position as leader of the Oath Keepers.

He sought, prosecutors said, to “impose [the Oath Keepers’] preferred result on a U.S. presidential election.”

“This conduct created a grave risk to our democratic system of government
and must be met with swift and severe punishment,” prosecutors said.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 6:44:00am

re: #156 JC1

Objectively, yes. We are not Mogadishu or Port-au-Prince.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 25, 2023 • 6:48:24am

re: #123 teleskiguy

Seriously, fuck off. You show up here every morning posting stupid shit from the NYPost and Daily Mail looking to get a rise out of the board, now you feign compassion.

The next time you feel like being nice to me, don’t. It’s wholly out of character.

are you saying he’s a concern troll?

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A Cranky One  May 25, 2023 • 6:49:43am

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 6:52:33am

re: #158 teleskiguy

Objectively, yes. We are not Mogadishu or Port-au-Prince.

Or the US of the 1980s, 1990s, and early 2000s.
Violent crime rate is about half of what it was in the early 1990s (and this holds true if you break it down further and look at murder, aggregated assault, and rapes individually). What’s changed is the news coverage based on ‘if it bleeds it leads’, so people don’t feel safer.

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darthstar  May 25, 2023 • 6:53:30am

re: #154 teleskiguy

There were dozens of arrests this winter on Vail Mountain on charges of brandishing a gun. I’ve never seen that before.

Who the hell skis with a gun?

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 6:53:53am

re: #162 darthstar

Who the hell skis with a gun?

INORITE?!?

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 6:54:09am

re: #162 darthstar

Who the hell skis with a gun?

Scandinavians do.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 6:55:03am

Biathlon. Or mountain security. The only folks that should have guns on skis.

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ericblair  May 25, 2023 • 6:55:42am

re: #161 JC1

Or the US of the 1980s, 1990s, and early 2000s.
Violent crime rate is about half of what it was in the early 1990s (and this holds true if you break it down further and look at murder, aggregated assault, and rapes individually). What’s changed is the news coverage based on ‘if it bleeds it leads’, so people don’t feel safer.

The US is a reasonably safe country, although with large regional variations, but has a domestic terrorism problem.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 25, 2023 • 6:59:08am

re: #71 TarHellion

Ran into some difficulty. So it goes…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 7:02:02am

re: #156 JC1

I agree that things would be better with far fewer guns around. I just mean that if you look at the per capita statistics for violent crimes, the US today is a very safe country.

The discussion was firearms though, not violent crime.

On the issue of firearms, the USA is by far the worst in the OECD for firearms-related deaths and it’s not even close.

Results: US homicide rates were 7.0 times higher than other high-income countries, driven by a gun homicide rate that was 25.2 times higher. For 15-24 year olds, the gun homicide rate in the US was 49.0 times higher. Firearm-related suicide rates were 8.0 times higher in the US but our overall suicide rates were average. Unintentional firearm deaths were 6.2 times higher in the US.

The overall firearm death rate in the US from all causes was 10.0 times higher. Ninety percent of women, 91% of children aged 0-14, 92% of youth aged 15-24, and 82% of all people killed by firearms were from the US.

Conclusion: The US has an enormous firearm problem compared to other high-income countries with much higher rates of homicide and firearm-related suicide. Compared to 2003 estimates, the US firearm death rate remains unchanged while firearm death rates in other countries fell. Thus, the already high relative rates of firearm homicide, firearm suicide and unintentional firearm death in the US compared to the other high-income countries rose between 2003 and 2010

(more)

Violent Death Rates: The United States Compared to other High-Income OECD Countries, 2010 (University of San Francisco School of Nursing, March 2016, opens PDF)

More recent data shows that hasn’t improved. In fact it’s gotten worse.

The level of gun violence in the United States is completely outsized compared to what’s seen in other wealthy countries. In fact, the rate of gun violence in the U.S. is higher than in many low-income countries.

Those are the findings of the latest version of an annual report on gun violence from the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, which tracks lives lost in every country, in every year, by every possible cause of death.

(more)

Deaths From Gun Violence: How The U.S. Compares With The Rest Of The World (NPR, November 9, 2018)

All of that only counts deaths from firearms (including suicide). It doesn’t count injuries, permanent disability, psychological damage, &c.

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Dr. Matt  May 25, 2023 • 7:04:44am

re: #6 ckkatz

James Hetfield, @Metallica band leader, visited wounded Ukrainian defenders who are being treated in the US.

I hope MAGA boycotts Metallica now.

170
Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 7:06:22am

Time for a train trip through Shikoku, Japan:

Japan’s Underrated and Spectacular Train Trip in Shikoku

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 7:07:40am

re: #6 ckkatz

In Vail, Colorado, right down the road from me. James Hetfield bought a house on Forest Road (slopeside) a few years ago. I’ve seen him in the grocery store a couple of times. I threw him a rock on hand \m/ once and he smiled and winked at me

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 7:09:47am

My state senator Steve Erdman remains a moran.

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Dr. Matt  May 25, 2023 • 7:11:07am

When a band announces a world tour

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 7:11:25am

re: #162 darthstar

Who the hell skis with a gun?

I did when I was Stationed in Fairbanks. 2 winters in a row. 👍🏻👍🏻

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 7:12:04am

re: #156 JC1

I agree that things would be better with far fewer guns around. I just mean that if you look at the per capita statistics for violent crimes, the US today is a very safe country.

Pretty sure that is bullshit. Show stats.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 7:13:39am

re: #169 Dr. Matt

I hope MAGA boycotts Metallica now.

Metallica has always questioned power and militarism.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2023 • 7:15:02am

re: #176 lawhawk

Metallica has always questioned power and militarism.

Except the power of copyright.

Metallica Napster Bad

178
Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 7:15:12am

Its a sucky situation and we’re stuck with it

There is unfortunately no point in discussing resigning

They rammed two scotus justices through. They will not agree to a mere committee replacement

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 7:15:48am

re: #176 lawhawk

Metallica has always questioned power and militarism.

Most rockers and punk question…everything

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Dr. Matt  May 25, 2023 • 7:19:44am

re: #179 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Most rockers and punk question…everything

Ted Nugent brags about his ability to bang underage girls.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2023 • 7:20:08am

re: #179 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Most rockers and punk question…everything

A lot of rockers are fascists eager to fall in line. I hear about it from a friend who’s in a couple of bands.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 7:20:18am

re: #173 Dr. Matt

Sort of depends; AC/DC, Iron Maiden and Ghost have all toured South America, as they have a lot of fans there. And they play quite a few concerts in the EU.

Africa? Yeah, that pretty much gets ignored outright. And a good chunk of Asia, too, with maybe the exception of Japan.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2023 • 7:21:17am

re: #180 Dr. Matt

Ted Nugent brags about his ability to bang underage girls.

Question the age of consent, and the concept of consent itself.
/

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A Cranky One  May 25, 2023 • 7:23:17am

185
Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 7:23:55am

re: #156 JC1

I agree that things would be better with far fewer guns around. I just mean that if you look at the per capita statistics for violent crimes, the US today is a very safe country.

The problem with statements like this is compared to what?
- other countries? Of similar size, population and form of government (strong states and a fed). There aren’t really too many comps.
- how this country “ought to be” if people were sane and laws were reasonable

Imo the latter is the goal
in that vein we are hardly safe or as safe as we could be.
We are out of control and heading in the wrong direction.

We very often don’t even hold people responsible for their own actions.
Ie when the demonstrate they have lost control of their weapon(s)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 7:24:34am

re: #175 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Pretty sure that is bullshit. Show stats.

Crime rates in general are difficult to compare, as different countries use different reporting criteria and classify crimes differently.

The OECD compares the crime rates (and other unsafe things like road accidents) between its own countries.

oecd-ilibrary.org

For homicide, by far the worst are Mexico and Colombia (more than 20x the OECD average), but the USA is 3x the OECD average (all forms of homicide, not just firearms).

Road accident deaths have fallen across the OECD, but the USA remains the highest per capita. The only other close nation is Chile.

Much of the chart is how safe people feel in their countries, which is different than how safe they are in their countries.

oecd-ilibrary.org (OECD Safety, “How’s Life? 2020”)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 7:24:58am

So, Bob Dylan was awarded a Nobel for his music. Where is Knopfler’s?

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 7:27:29am

More gutting of the regulatory state.

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 7:27:55am

re: #188 teleskiguy

More gutting of the regulatory state.

God damn it. I really hate this timeline.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 7:29:42am

Incoming snark.

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Dr. Matt  May 25, 2023 • 7:30:32am

They are saying the quiet parts out loud again:

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sizzzzlerz  May 25, 2023 • 7:31:05am

re: #1 ckkatz

The fox kits living under my porch. Picture taken through my screened kitchen window.
And, yes, that extension cord is unplugged.

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You kits, get offa my lawn!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 7:31:44am

re: #188 teleskiguy

More gutting of the regulatory state.

Hey great, our farmers and ranchers can dump waste into the dry creeks here. They only occasionally connect to the North Platte River. All that waste would only get to the river when it rains. Since the level of the river (except in flood) is also the level of the Ogallala Aquifer, I’m sure that won’t hurt our water supply.

For that matter, the North Platte River is not navigable except by small boats.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 7:32:28am

re: #189 Nerdy Fish

God damn it. I really hate this timeline.

Rererererereiterate. This timeline bites ass.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 7:32:45am

Whisky
Tango
Foxtrot.

Texas kids given new book where Winnie-the-Pooh teaches them to survive school shootings

Kids in Dallas, Texas were sent home from school with an unusual item in their backpacks, reported The Guardian:

a book that features Winnie-the-Pooh explaining how to survive school shootings.

theguardian.com

Parents and teachers in the Dallas area have expressed alarm and concern that the Stay Safe book, produced by a law enforcement consulting firm in Houston, has been sent home in the backpacks of children in pre-kindergarten and elementary classes

The book features the honey-loving bear created by AA Milne and illustrator EH Shepard instructing kids about how to react to a mass shooting. It is not an official production, Winnie-the-Pooh has been in the public domain since 1 January 2022.

The subtitle to the Stay Safe book is: “If there is danger, let Winnie-the-Pooh and his Crew show you what to do: Run Hide Fight.”

Run, hide, fight are the tactics advised by the FBI “should the unthinkable occur”.

Inside pages of the book, featuring other characters from the Hundred Acre Wood, tell kids: “If it is safe to get away, we should RUN like Rabbit instead of stay … If danger is near, do not fear, HIDE like Pooh does until the police appear.”

The NRA needs to be shut down.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 7:34:19am

Heh.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 25, 2023 • 7:35:22am

Bird-pollinated:

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dat_said  May 25, 2023 • 7:36:15am

re: #191 Dr. Matt

They are saying the quiet parts out loud again:

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I had to occasionally contribute to the writing of patient manuals. I had enough difficulty writing at what was considered an 8th grade reading level. I would have hurt myself trying to describe atrial fibrillation at what is considered a 3rd grade reading level.

My dad had a 6th grade education. He had no trouble understanding atrial fibrillation and would have been insulted if someone spoke to him at a 3rd grade level.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 7:37:41am

re: #175 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Pretty sure that is bullshit. Show stats.

Pretty sure you’re clueless.
statista.com

Violent crime rate is down ~50% from the 1990s. If today is bad than the 1990s must have been Mad Max like with double today’s rates.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 7:38:58am

In extremely local news, the plumbing company was here yesterday to perform the beginning of Summer maintenance checks on our new air conditioner.

Now, the furnace is running.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 7:39:17am

re: #185 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

The problem with statements like this is compared to what?
- other countries? Of similar size, population and form of government (strong states and a fed). There aren’t really too many comps.
- how this country “ought to be” if people were sane and laws were reasonable

Imo the latter is the goal
in that vein we are hardly safe or as safe as we could be.
We are out of control and heading in the wrong direction.

We very often don’t even hold people responsible for their own actions.
Ie when the demonstrate they have lost control of their weapon(s)

Compared to the US 30, 25, 20, 15, and 10 years ago.
Not sure if other comparisons are more valid.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 7:40:00am

re: #196 teleskiguy

But yeah, DeSantis melted the Twitter servers…

That says as much about Twitter’s failures under Musk as DeSantis’ poor judgment to align with Musk and his fascist fanbois.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 7:40:14am

re: #199 JC1

Pretty sure you’re clueless.
statista.com

Violent crime rate is down ~50% from the 1990s. If today is bad than the 1990s must have been Mad Max like with double today’s rates.

The violent crime rate is down across the world, except in areas of civil unrest or war.

There are many thoughts on why that is, but the one most often floated was the removal of tetraethyl lead from gasoline across the world.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 7:42:15am

re: #199 JC1

Pretty sure you’re clueless.
statista.com

Violent crime rate is down ~50% from the 1990s. If today is bad than the 1990s must have been Mad Max like with double today’s rates.

Pretty sure you’re not actually responding to the question. Misdirection is a bad take.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 7:43:22am

re: #203 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The violent crime rate is down across the world, except in areas of civil unrest or war.

There are many thoughts on why that is, but the one most often floated was the removal of tetraethyl lead from gasoline across the world.

All I’m saying is that the idea that we’re getting less safe or that the US today is more dangerous than it was 20 years ago is an issue of perception, not reality.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 7:43:34am

re: #203 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah, lead was / is a bad thing

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2023 • 7:45:38am

The sound of children screaming has been removed.

One year ago.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 7:45:47am

re: #193 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On top of that, it is not unusual for the big south bend of the Platte River to be completely dry in late Summer. Does that mean there isn’t a continuous connexion between the upper Platte/North Platte/South Platte River drainage areas? If that’s the case, is it okay to drain pollutants into the Missouri River as long as it comes from the non-contiguous portion of the upper Platte River?

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No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 7:46:52am

Rhodes sentencing hearing is being live tweeted, and it’s not going well for Rhodes, who is facing up to 25 years.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 7:46:53am

re: #204 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Pretty sure you’re not actually responding to the question. Misdirection is a bad take.

How am I not? If violent crime is down ~ 50% from 30 years ago, and down significantly from 20 and 15 and 10 years ago, how is it incorrect to say that the US is objectively safe unless you claim that the 1990s were like Deadwood in the 1870s?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 7:48:04am

re: #205 JC1

Ok. You think you’re smart because you made a lot of money. But you are failing to answer the question, is the US safer than other countries?

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Unabogie  May 25, 2023 • 7:49:59am

re: #162 darthstar

Who the hell skis with a gun?

Uh, hello???

James Bond???

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Eventual Carrion  May 25, 2023 • 7:50:01am

re: #26 Hecuba’s daughter

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 7:51:03am

See B.S. goes all in on the Hunter Biden IRS “Whistleblower”

thedailybeast.com

A whistleblower from inside the Internal Revenue Service gave his first public interview Wednesday—alleging that the agency mishandled an ongoing probe into the finances of President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden. Gary Shapley, who has been an agent at the IRS for more than 14 years, told the CBS Evening News that he felt “duty bound” to speak up after witnessing alleged political pressure applied by the DOJ and other federal agencies. “There were multiple steps that were slow-walked—were just completely not done—at the direction of the Department of Justice,” he said. “When I took control of this particular investigation, I immediately saw deviations from the normal process. It was way outside the norm of what I’ve experienced in the past.”

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 7:52:37am

re: #211 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Ok. You think you’re smart because you made a lot of money. But you are failing to answer the question, is the US safer than other countries?

The question wasn’t about safer than other countries (it’s safer than some, not safer than others). The question was about objectively safe. If the US today is MUCH safer than it was 30 or 20 or 10 or 40, or pick a number of years ago, then I submit that it is safe. It’s certainly not getting worse, as is the implication is all the crime wave fear mongering.

I have no f*cking idea why you think my financial success or lack thereof, or my intelligence or lack thereof has anything to do with this. The data is the data.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 7:56:03am

re: #212 Unabogie

Uh, hello???

James Bond???

Finnish snipers?

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 7:58:52am

This Chinese poster for the upcoming Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse is a damn work of art:

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A Cranky One  May 25, 2023 • 7:59:04am

re: #216 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Finnish snipers?

I don’t see any. Oh wait…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 8:00:08am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 8:00:26am

re: #210 JC1

How am I not? If violent crime is down ~ 50% from 30 years ago, and down significantly from 20 and 15 and 10 years ago, how is it incorrect to say that the US is objectively safe unless you claim that the 1990s were like Deadwood in the 1870s?

Because you are not remotely discussing the differences in US vs.every other countries crime / death rates. It does not matter if US crime is diminishing, and no one with a clue questions that statistic. Which was the point. The fact that you don’t understand the question is shocking.

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darthstar  May 25, 2023 • 8:04:12am

re: #219 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Therein lies the problem. The state government caters to a small group of extremists and religious bigots and almost nobody pays attention to it…hell, even a freshman senator isn’t paying enough attention to know what bills they’re passing.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2023 • 8:07:29am

re: #56 Targetpractice

Every doctor note since my hospitalization in Dec: “Monitor your sodium intake and keep to a low-sodium diet to avoid fluid retention.”

My doc after getting my blood test results back yesterday: “Your sodium levels are low, I think it might be due to the meds you’re on.”

The joys of modern medicine.//////

A few years ago, my doctor said my B12 levels were dangerously low so she put me on an OTC supplement. A year later, the lab results said they were dangerously high! Let’s say, the supplement was lowered.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 8:12:11am

Looks like some wacko is holed up in a hotel in Nagano Prefecture, Japan after killing three:

Three people have been killed in a stabbing and shooting attack in central Japan, local media say.

A man in camouflage is said to have stabbed a woman and then used a hunting rifle in the city of Nakano, Nagano prefecture. Two policemen were also killed, and another person was injured.

The alleged attacker is holed inside a building, Japanese media report.

bbc.com

A bit more here: mainichi.jp

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dat_said  May 25, 2023 • 8:12:42am

Having a discussion where people are not discussing the same thing is frustrating.

My mother-in-law over the weekend asked me if I had received my “big refund” check yet from the IRS. I replied with something like “I did really well with my tax planning this year and I only owed $26. Besides, I don’t like big rebates because it’s an interest free loan to the IRS.” Really thought that latter statement would appeal to her old-school R mentality. Instead, I got the “Really, dat, I thought you were smarter than that. Why wouldn’t you want the biggest refund check you can get?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 8:12:44am

Both Democrats and Republicans in the Unicameral think that the vindictive term-limit law passed to get rid of former Senator Ernie Chambers (I-North Omaha) has hurt the legislature. Several (including my own state senator) want to reverse the term-limit law.

In the meantime, what keeps the institutional knowledge of the legislature going is senators mentoring with former senators, and the legislative staff.

Former Gov. Ricketts vetoed a bill to increase pay for legislative staff, claiming the state couldn’t afford it. Gov. Pillen feels the same way.

The goal there is to cause legislative staff to leave for greener pastures. Staff members don’t make a whole lot of money as it is here. If you can force out those who are knowledgeable about how the state legislature is supposed to run, you can find lackeys who don’t need the money but who will do as they are told.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 8:15:39am

re: #222 Hecuba’s daughter

A few years ago, my doctor said my B12 levels were dangerously low so she put me on an OTC supplement. A year later, the lab results said they were dangerously high! Let’s say, the supplement was lowered.

Obviously your B12 breaker needed to be reset.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 8:16:14am

re: #225 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Both Democrats and Republicans in the Unicameral think that the vindictive term-limit law passed to get rid of former Senator Ernie Chambers (I-North Omaha) has hurt the legislature. Several (including my own state senator) want to reverse the term-limit law.

Here in California I remember when the Koch Brothers poured millions into the state to impose term limits for the State Legislature. Their commercials endlessly attacked then-Speaker Willie Brown and they played the race card for all its worth to pass those term limits.

Ever since then lobbyists are the ones calling the shots in Sacramento.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 8:18:08am

re: #225 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You know merikans think they want better. But that is so fúcked.

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 8:19:05am

re: #227 Joe Bacon ✅

I’m coming around to being in favor of age limits, not term limits. I know Senator Feinstein has had a long and distinguished career, but I think her career should end gracefully, not like this. However, long-term politicians know how the sausage is made, and help retain institutional memory. I almost wonder if, in places where term limits are instituted, the state houses should hire permanent long-term staffers, so that the rotating cast of congresscritters will always have experienced and capable staff to ensure the legislative machine keeps running smoothly.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2023 • 8:21:21am

Term limits and age limits are a difficult thing in our legislative thoughts.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 8:22:04am

re: #221 darthstar

Therein lies the problem. The state government caters to a small group of extremists and religious bigots and almost nobody pays attention to it…hell, even a freshman senator isn’t paying enough attention to know what bills they’re passing.

Not counting the extremist part, that’s a problem in a lot of states, where they can’t name their state senators or representatives, or even people like county commissioners or school board members. A whole lot of people don’t pay attention to what goes on in local politics, and that allows a minority who do outsized access to local politicians.

It’s really difficult to get voters to understand that the retail politics of local offices affect them far more than the bully pulpit of the President. Someone running for school board just doesn’t make the spectacular splash of someone running for President, unless they are a monumental screw-up.

When my mother was wrestling with Illinois to get the back pension benefits of my late step-father and was getting a runaround from the teacher’s office, I suggested she call either her city alderman, state representative, or state senator for help. She had no idea who those people were. I had to look them up for her (after which she called her state representative and he lit a fire under the pension folks to get her enrolled and the back pay).

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 8:22:54am

re: #230 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Term limits and age limits are a difficult thing in our legislative thoughts.

It was only recently that I was educated on the negatives of term limits. I don’t like the idea of professional politicians, and feel that it’s contributed somewhat to our current problem of Republican politicians acting independently from the will of their constituents. However, the solution to that problem is not to impose term limits, as that will just introduce a number of other problems that may be even more difficult to solve.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 8:26:55am

re: #228 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

You know merikans think they want better. But that is so fúcked.

When there was a state constitution referendum on the ballot to raise the pay of state senators (the constitution fixes pay to $1,000/month plus per diem for people outside of the Lincoln and Omaha areas), there was a massive out-of-state advert campaign to convince voters to turn the change down. (It would have raised senator pay by a lot then tied it to the state’s inflation rate.)

A lot of people have a bug up their arse about “career politicians.” They don’t apply the same logic to their “career physician” or “career auto mechanic.” It seems a lot of “I don’t know what those people do, and I don’t care, they just suck up my tax money.”

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dat_said  May 25, 2023 • 8:27:48am

Likely the first time the pickup ever went off road.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 8:28:23am

re: #199 JC1

Pretty sure you’re clueless.
statista.com

Violent crime rate is down ~50% from the 1990s. If today is bad than the 1990s must have been Mad Max like with double today’s rates.

re: #201 JC1

Compared to the US 30, 25, 20, 15, and 10 years ago.
Not sure if other comparisons are more valid.

yes crime and violent crime has decreased
yes. a lot.

what is also changing, indisputably (imo), is the nature of violent crime

both things can be true at the same time. - less crime, and less safe.

maybe less armed robbery, mugging, and like that

compared to way way way more chance of being randomly shot/killed/harassed

there was a time you maybe could stay out of certain places

no more. i could be road raged, swatted, doxxed, shot up while food shopping or out to dinner, drinking in a bar, also targeted in lots of ways that are out of my ability to stay small and anonymous. Shall we talk about the blithe acceptance of school shootings?

i wrote here about a week ago that it suddenly dawned on me that my backwater grocery store is not safe. no place is immune anymore. there was a time (such as when violent crime was 2x what it is now) that such a though would never have occured to anyone.

again, imo, it is now a perfectly acceptable and reasonable definition of ‘less safe’.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 8:28:49am

re: #232 Nerdy Fish

It was only recently that I was educated on the negatives of term limits. I don’t like the idea of professional politicians, and feel that it’s contributed somewhat to our current problem of Republican politicians acting independently from the will of their constituents. However, the solution to that problem is not to impose term limits, as that will just introduce a number of other problems that may be even more difficult to solve.

The vote is a term limit.

My idea has always been at the end of a political campaign, you have to get rid of the campaign war chest. Refund it to donors, donate it to charities which are legal to do, turn it over to the county, state, or national party, but you gotta start each campaign with zero dollars.

Mitch McConnell has a campaign war chest with the budget of a middlin’ sized nation.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 8:30:07am

After they force default what are the Republicans gonna push?

You guessed it folks!

GOP plans to unveil deficit-exploding tax cuts for the rich 2 weeks after debt limit deadline

With the U.S. careening toward a default crisis that they manufactured, House Republicans are reportedly crafting a major tax cut package that would overwhelmingly benefit the rich and corporations while blowing a multitrillion-dollar hole in the federal deficit.

The fresh push for tax cuts, according to Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), further shows that “this hostage crisis has never been about deficits for the GOP.”

“It has always been about wealth transfer—taking away food and healthcare from the poor and middle class to give away $3 trillion more in tax cuts to their rich friends,” Omar, the deputy chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, tweeted Tuesday.

Politico reported earlier this week that Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee hope to finish work on their emerging tax legislation by June 16, just over two weeks after the so-called “X-date”—the day on which the Treasury Department expects the federal government to run out of money to cover its obligations unless Congress raises the debt limit or President Joe Biden acts unilaterally.

Yeah a brand new $3 Trillion in Welfare For The Rich!

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 8:30:57am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My idea has always been at the end of a political campaign, you have to get rid of the campaign war chest. Refund it to donors, donate it to charities which are legal to do, turn it over to the county, state, or national party, but you gotta start each campaign with zero dollars.

Mitch McConnell has a campaign war chest with the budget of a middlin’ sized nation.

I like that idea. Part of the problem with modern politics is how much money it takes just to get your foot in the door. While grass-roots candidates would still struggle to campaign against the big money-generating machines, starting everybody off on the literal ground floor would at least provide a fighting chance.

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Belafon  May 25, 2023 • 8:34:20am

re: #232 Nerdy Fish

It was only recently that I was educated on the negatives of term limits. I don’t like the idea of professional politicians, and feel that it’s contributed somewhat to our current problem of Republican politicians acting independently from the will of their constituents. However, the solution to that problem is not to impose term limits, as that will just introduce a number of other problems that may be even more difficult to solve.

I would be ok with professional politicians:

Must have dual degrees in government and law.
Must be certified by a board.
Must have at least 5 years experience as a staff member of the body you want to run for or equivalent experience in a lower office.

But we don’t have that.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 8:35:03am

re: #237 Joe Bacon ✅

Looks more and more like Biden is gonna have to act unilaterally. Either the 14th or the old “trillion-dollar coin” idea.

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 8:35:29am

re: #239 Belafon

I would be ok with professional politicians:

Must have dual degrees in government and law.
Must be certified by a board.
Must have at least 5 years experience as a staff member of the body you want to run for or equivalent experience in a lower office.

But we don’t have that.

As Anymouse intimates, the real problem is that voters continue voting for politicians out of blind party loyalty, or name recognition, rather than out of any true sense of whether or not they’re doing the job they were elected to do, which is represent the people.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 8:36:47am

Hey if you are getting Social Security checks!

Asa Hutchison wants you to get off your ass and get back to work…even if you’re 80, 90, 100…

rawstory.com

GOP presidential candidate wants ‘million’ seniors on Social Security to go back to work

Republican presidential candidate Asa Hutchinson (AR) has a plan that could put up to a million Social Security recipients back to work.

Hutchinson explained the idea during a Thursday appearance on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal program.

“Those people who are aged 62 and want to take Social Security and retire, they shouldn’t be penalized by the government for working,” he said. “That could add a million people back into our workforce who want to work, and they could get their Social Security benefit, and they could work at the same time.”

“Those are kind of changes that, to me, make sense that will help our economy and help our budgeting,” the candidate concluded.

Nice to see Republicans want Grandma and Grandpa to get back in the workforce along with their grandkids…

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 8:37:25am

re: #224 dat_said

Having a discussion where people are not discussing the same thing is frustrating.

My mother-in-law over the weekend asked me if I had received my “big refund” check yet from the IRS. I replied with something like “I did really well with my tax planning this year and I only owed $26. Besides, I don’t like big rebates because it’s an interest free loan to the IRS.” Really thought that latter statement would appeal to her old-school R mentality. Instead, I got the “Really, dat, I thought you were smarter than that. Why wouldn’t you want the biggest refund check you can get?”

i have two clients…

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 8:38:44am

re: #229 Nerdy Fish

I’m coming around to being in favor of age limits, not term limits. I know Senator Feinstein has had a long and distinguished career, but I think her career should end gracefully, not like this. However, long-term politicians know how the sausage is made, and help retain institutional memory. I almost wonder if, in places where term limits are instituted, the state houses should hire permanent long-term staffers, so that the rotating cast of congresscritters will always have experienced and capable staff to ensure the legislative machine keeps running smoothly.

Feinstein is an issue mostly because the senate is so close and the committee she’s on is so important.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 8:38:45am

re: #238 Nerdy Fish

I like that idea. Part of the problem with modern politics is how much money it takes just to get your foot in the door. While grass-roots candidates would still struggle to campaign against the big money-generating machines, starting everybody off on the literal ground floor would at least provide a fighting chance.

For state offices we don’t see too much of campaign war chests due to the term-limits law in place now.

What really hurts our state legislature is the low pay. No one can live on $12,000 a year. (I saw a Twitter thread were people were following the fight over the anti-trans hate bill LB-574, and some senators were arguing they needed to get out so they could attend to their jobs. A lot of out-of-staters following the debate were wondering why state legislators would have outside jobs.)

Because the pay is so low, the only people who can be senators in this state are those with outside income (jobs or businesses), retirees, or millionaires who don’t need the money.

Since I have VA Disability Compensation, I can afford to take a shot at the legislature. A person who might make a really good senator but is waiting tables or working as a schoolteacher probably can’t. The low pay limits people who would otherwise be good candidates for office from even considering running because they can’t afford it.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 8:39:48am

re: #220 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Because you are not remotely discussing the differences in US vs.every other countries crime / death rates. It does not matter if US crime is diminishing, and no one with a clue questions that statistic. Which was the point. The fact that you don’t understand the question is shocking.

This all started with one of our posters saying that he now feels unsafe and that things are essentially going to hell in a handbasket. How is what you’re saying more relevant to that discussion than discussing the change over time in US crime statistics?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 8:41:21am

re: #239 Belafon

I would be ok with professional politicians:

Must have dual degrees in government and law.
Must be certified by a board.
Must have at least 5 years experience as a staff member of the body you want to run for or equivalent experience in a lower office.

But we don’t have that.

I’d be out of office.

No college.
(Not sure what board would certify a politician.)
No staff for village board members here (well, the village clerk but she has a lot of other stuff to do).

For federal offices, that would take a change to the Constitution.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 8:43:04am

re: #237 Joe Bacon ✅

GOP is all-in on the sabotage of the US govt and the effort to destroy Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid as well as impose “work” requirements to obtain benefits for a variety of programs, even though many people are of retirement age or have physical disabilities that prevent work to satisfy those requirements.

Why?

Because destroying these programs would inure benefit to billionaires? Well, that’s their “thinking”, because they’re pushing these disastrous policies that would further entrench TCJA tax scam provisions that added trillions to debt and the GOP thinks all of this is perfectly acceptable.

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 8:45:13am

It’s not looking too good for our boy Stewart Rhodes. The book is being accelerated in his direction.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 8:45:18am

re: #242 Joe Bacon ✅

Hey if you are getting Social Security checks!

Asa Hutchison wants you to get off your ass and get back to work…even if you’re 80, 90, 100…

rawstory.com

GOP presidential candidate wants ‘million’ seniors on Social Security to go back to work

Republican presidential candidate Asa Hutchinson (AR) has a plan that could put up to a million Social Security recipients back to work.

Hutchinson explained the idea during a Thursday appearance on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal program.

“Those people who are aged 62 and want to take Social Security and retire, they shouldn’t be penalized by the government for working,” he said. “That could add a million people back into our workforce who want to work, and they could get their Social Security benefit, and they could work at the same time.”

“Those are kind of changes that, to me, make sense that will help our economy and help our budgeting,” the candidate concluded.

Nice to see Republicans want Grandma and Grandpa to get back in the workforce along with their grandkids…

sounds like he’s saying don’t tax their SS benefits if they’re still working

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 8:46:49am

re: #250 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

sounds like he’s saying don’t tax their SS benefits if they’re still working

Oh Asshole Asa didn’t say that since it was St. Pruneface who signed the 1983 law that made Social Security benefits taxable income.

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piratedan  May 25, 2023 • 8:47:45am

re: #244 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

and lets be honest, in a true collegial environment, allowing her to retire and be replaced (because it’s fair) would be standard operating procedure but thanks to The Turtle and the ultra-partisan nature of our national politics its not gonna happen.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 25, 2023 • 8:49:35am

re: #97 Thanos

Richard Barnett, who put his feet on Nancy Pelosi’s desk, is sentenced to over 4 years

Not. Enough. 🤬🤬

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 8:52:33am

re: #246 JC1

This all started with one of our posters saying that he now feels unsafe and that things are essentially going to hell in a handbasket. How is what you’re saying more relevant to that discussion than discussing the change over time in US crime statistics?

crime rate does not necessarily correlate to people’s perception of safety and comfort

after reading my own reply above

re: #235 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

again, maybe it’s because of ‘who’ feels less safe
and where that crime used to be vs where it is now

because even if there’s less violence, it is spreading out to more places (ie the suburbs, schools, nightclubs, Wal-Mart) and - there’s that word again - potentially affecting more people. it’s more random and impersonal than it used to be.

how many more people feel their lives could be in jeopardy for stepping on someone’s lawn vs 40 years ago

and why

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 8:53:01am

Tim Scott: It’s ‘good news’ South Carolina passed 6 week abortion ban

Did we expect the 40 Year Old Virgin Candidate For President To Say Anything Else?

rawstory.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 8:53:05am

As for officeholders having college degrees and relevant experience:

Sens. Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley are both lawyers who were state attorneys-general. Gov. Ron DeSantis is a lawyer who was a Navy JAG.

On the other side, Sen. Raphael Warnock has a PhD from Union Theological Seminary and is the head pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church. He never held political office before being elected to the US Senate but was a political activist in trying to get support for the ACA.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 8:53:22am

re: #235 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

yes crime and violent crime has decreased
yes. a lot.

what is also changing, indisputably (imo), is the nature of violent crime

both things can be true at the same time. - less crime, and less safe.

maybe less armed robbery, mugging, and like that

compared to way way way more chance of being randomly shot/killed/harassed

there was a time you maybe could stay out of certain places

no more. i could be road raged, swatted, doxxed, shot up while food shopping or out to dinner, drinking in a bar, also targeted in lots of ways that are out of my ability to stay small and anonymous. Shall we talk about the blithe acceptance of school shootings?

i wrote here about a week ago that it suddenly dawned on me that my backwater grocery store is not safe. no place is immune anymore. there was a time (such as when violent crime was 2x what it is now) that such a though would never have occured to anyone.

again, imo, it is now a perfectly acceptable and reasonable definition of ‘less safe’.

Murder rate is also down. I’m not sure how less violent crime and less safe are compatible (unless you change the way crime is reported).

I guess the question is: were you naive to feel safe in a backwater grocery store 20 or 30 years ago, when it was more likely that something bad would happen, or are you just extra aware/paranoid now? Or a combination of both.
I get that the perception is that things are now more dangerous. I don’t know how that perception is justifiable overall.

There are areas of concern like school shootings. I don’t know how having frequent shooter drills affects kids, but I’d wager it’s not positive.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 8:54:49am

talkingpointsmemo.com

Mehta: Terrorism Applies To Rhodes’ Actions

Judge Mehta is speaking now, and has indicated that he agrees with all of the prosecutors’ motions for enhancements, including terrorism, reports say.

That will likely open Rhodes up to the higher end of what prosecutors want — 25 years behind bars.

Per reports from the courthouse, Mehta said that Rhodes attacked “an institution of American democracy at its most important moment, the transfer of power.” He also reportedly said that Rhodes “had no regret about what happened that day, and I don’t think he had any regret about his own people going in.”

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 8:55:13am

re: #240 Dr Lizardo

Looks more and more like Biden is gonna have to act unilaterally. Either the 14th or the old “trillion-dollar coin” idea.

He should. If he wasn’t committed to doing that if necessary, he should have pushed for a debt ceiling raise during the lame duck congress last year.

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🔧-wench  May 25, 2023 • 8:55:17am

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BeenHereAwhile  May 25, 2023 • 8:55:27am

re: #154 teleskiguy

There were dozens of arrests this winter on Vail Mountain on charges of brandishing a gun. I’ve never seen that before.

Winterland wantabees, some - if - not - all - from the big cities.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 8:56:50am

re: #258 Joe Bacon ✅

talkingpointsmemo.com

Mehta: Terrorism Applies To Rhodes’ Actions

Judge Mehta is speaking now, and has indicated that he agrees with all of the prosecutors’ motions for enhancements, including terrorism, reports say.

That will likely open Rhodes up to the higher end of what prosecutors want — 25 years behind bars.

Per reports from the courthouse, Mehta said that Rhodes attacked “an institution of American democracy at its most important moment, the transfer of power.” He also reportedly said that Rhodes “had no regret about what happened that day, and I don’t think he had any regret about his own people going in.”

Huh…that odd, distant sound I heard just now must’ve been Rhodes shitting himself.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 25, 2023 • 8:56:52am

re: #129 teleskiguy

The troll keeps dragging me back in.

I DON’T appreciate your viewpoint. You’re one of those “the cruelty is the point” dudes.

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

100 fucking percent.

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dat_said  May 25, 2023 • 8:57:01am

re: #243 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

i have two clients…

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 8:59:33am

re: #254 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Perception. Reality.

NYC subways carry more people than reside in several states in a single day.

Ridership is around 4 million a day. That’s more than live in 20 states, plus DC. It’s more than live in WY, VT, DC, AK, and ND combined. It’s NYC, so any crime there is amplified by a media that takes any crime there to be sign of the pending apocalypse. Mind you, that even within NYC, the subway/transit crime rate is lower than the overall crime rate for NYC, which itself is lower than most major metro areas in the US, and is lower than NYC crime from a decade or 2 decades ago. Homicide rates are a fraction of what they were. Rapes are reported more today, so that skews some results. Other kinds of crimes like larceny are also down significantly.

But when you think about crime in the US, where do you think crime occurs? Big cities, not rural locations where populations are more sparse. But the crime rates suggest that crime is far more dispersed and you’d be more likely to die from gun violence in the Dakotas than NYC or NYS overall.

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 9:00:13am

And the book has arrived squarely on Stewart Rhodes’s face:

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 9:05:41am

It’s 22-27 years for Elmer!

Let’s give him the sendoff he deserves!

10 Hours of The Price is Right Losing Horn

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 9:06:34am

re: #266 Nerdy Fish

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 9:06:46am

re: #253 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not. Enough. 🤬🤬

make him sit with his feet up for 4 years

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 9:06:54am

re: #265 lawhawk

Perception. Reality.

NYC subways carry more people than reside in several states in a single day.

Ridership is around 4 million a day. That’s more than live in 20 states, plus DC. It’s more than live in WY, VT, DC, AK, and ND combined. It’s NYC, so any crime there is amplified by a media that takes any crime there to be sign of the pending apocalypse. Mind you, that even within NYC, the subway/transit crime rate is lower than the overall crime rate for NYC, which itself is lower than most major metro areas in the US, and is lower than NYC crime from a decade or 2 decades ago. Homicide rates are a fraction of what they were. Rapes are reported more today, so that skews some results. Other kinds of crimes like larceny are also down significantly.

But when you think about crime in the US, where do you think crime occurs? Big cities, not rural locations where populations are more sparse. But the crime rates suggest that crime is far more dispersed and you’d be more likely to die from gun violence in the Dakotas than NYC or NYS overall.

I blame the news and human nature. Just like a picture of 1 sympathetic starving child is likely to raise more money than a statistic about how many millions of children go hungry each day, one amplified news story about the horror of the day will cause more fear than saying that crime rates are down could counteract. And those news stories are getting amplified every day. We’re a country of 300+ million people. We can have 1 in a million chance per year shitty stories on every day and not run out of material.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2023 • 9:06:55am

re: #267 Joe Bacon ✅

It’s 22-27 years for Elmer!

Let’s give him the sendoff he deserves!

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jeffreyw  May 25, 2023 • 9:07:54am

Did you know Bugs Bunny doesn’t use Dropbox, iCloud, or OneDrive?

…

The only way to send him a file is as a WhatsApp doc

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2023 • 9:10:11am

re: #272 jeffreyw

Did you know Bugs Bunny doesn’t use Dropbox, iCloud, or OneDrive?

…

The only way to send him a file is as a WhatsApp doc

Dr. Smith’s Pain

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 9:10:16am
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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 9:11:48am

Jesus Cheese……!

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gocart mozart  May 25, 2023 • 9:11:49am
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Dr. Matt  May 25, 2023 • 9:12:31am

re: #212 Unabogie

Uh, hello???

James Bond???

You win the internet for the day.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 9:14:10am

re: #274 Dave In Austin

See, yet again why I’d never make it as judge, because after having to listen to that truckload of horseshit, I’d be all like, “Therefore, defendant Rhodes, I hereby sentence you to be hanged by the neck until dead and may God have mercy on your soul.”

- only half-joking

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Dr. Matt  May 25, 2023 • 9:14:58am

re: #268 lawhawk

JUST IN: A federal judge has agreed to apply a terrorism enhancement in the sentencing of Oath Keepers’ leader Stewart Rhodes—the first time in more than 1,000 Jan. 6 criminal cases that the terrorism penalty provision has been approved.

Being found guilty as a terrorist, and will spend decades in prison, because you are stupid enough to believe and worship a wannabe dictator. lolz.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 9:16:10am

re: #279 Dr. Matt

Being found guilty as a terrorist, and will spend decades in prison, because you are stupid enough to believe and worship a wannabe dictator. lolz.

Now that’s truly OWNING THE LIBS!! ain’t it?

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🔧-wench  May 25, 2023 • 9:17:13am

Rate of firearm use in violence rises. CDC:

Overview

Firearm deaths continue to be a significant and growing public health problem in the United States. In 2020, 79% of all homicides and 53% of all suicides involved firearms. From 2019 to 2020, the firearm homicide rate increased about 35%, and the firearm suicide rate stayed high. The firearm homicide rate in 2020 was the highest recorded in over 25 years.

Bold added.

Suicides are also (usually) violence.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 25, 2023 • 9:17:43am

Took me 6 yesterday. 5 on all three days before that. Finally picked up a birb today.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 9:19:54am

re: #274 Dave In Austin

Stewart Rhodes really isn’t helping his case with his state about being a political prisoner.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 9:20:28am
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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 9:20:53am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Stewart Rhodes really isn’t helping his case with his state about being a political prisoner.

He “finds it offensive” that the police testified against him in his trial, claiming that it wasn’t the OafKeepers that were responsible for that:

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Dr. Matt  May 25, 2023 • 9:21:13am

re: #280 Dr Lizardo

Now that’s truly OWNING THE LIBS!! ain’t it?

And at least TFG made one-eyed terrorist feel good about this Whiteness….and he could say “Merry Christmas” again.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 25, 2023 • 9:22:13am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Stewart Rhodes really isn’t helping his case with his state about being a political prisoner.

He’s gonna talk himself into a 30 year sentence.

Keep talking, asshole! 👍👍

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2023 • 9:22:33am

re: #229 Nerdy Fish

I’m coming around to being in favor of age limits, not term limits. I know Senator Feinstein has had a long and distinguished career, but I think her career should end gracefully, not like this. However, long-term politicians know how the sausage is made, and help retain institutional memory. I almost wonder if, in places where term limits are instituted, the state houses should hire permanent long-term staffers, so that the rotating cast of congresscritters will always have experienced and capable staff to ensure the legislative machine keeps running smoothly.

Unfortunately, Feinstein cannot leave before her term is up because the Republicans will prevent any judicial nominees from being approved by the Judiciary Committee. She had to have retired in 2018 to have avoided this tragedy.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 9:23:05am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 9:23:42am

re: #275 Dave In Austin

Jesus Cheese……!

He sounds like he’s trying to paint himself as a martyr. If others see him that way that doesn’t bode well to tamp down conservative violence in the future.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 9:24:00am

re: #281 🔧-wench

Rate of firearm use in violence rises. CDC:

Bold added.

Suicides are also (usually) violence.

And it was down in 2021 from those numbers. Haven’t seen numbers for 2022 yet.

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sagehen  May 25, 2023 • 9:24:53am

re: #187 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

So, Bob Dylan was awarded a Nobel for his music. Where is Knopfler’s?

Kendrick Lamar won a Pulitzer.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 9:25:14am

re: #286 Dr. Matt

And at least TFG made one-eyed terrorist feel good about this Whiteness….and he could say Merry Christmas agaim.

That’s one I’ve never understood….Czech Republic is the second-most atheistic country in the EU, and yet people say “veselé Vánoce” during the Christmas season…even though pretty much no one here actually believes in it. For most Czechs, it’s just another pohádka (fairy tale).

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 9:25:34am

re: #257 JC1

Murder rate is also down. I’m not sure how less violent crime and less safe are compatible (unless you change the way crime is reported).

I guess the question is: were you naive to feel safe in a backwater grocery store 20 or 30 years ago, when it was more likely that something bad would happen, or are you just extra aware/paranoid now? Or a combination of both.
I get that the perception is that things are now more dangerous. I don’t know how that perception is justifiable overall.

There are areas of concern like school shootings. I don’t know how having frequent shooter drills affects kids, but I’d wager it’s not positive.

crime statistics are about what happened.
‘less safe’ is the likelihood that it could happen to me (perception or fact).
- there was a time you (almost) didnt have to consider an office shooting unless you worked for the USPS. Now, any rando client gets pissed, or someone takes offense to being let go and… that’s a definition of less safe.

‘backwater’ was a bit tongue in cheek. we’re 15 miles from ft. lauderdale. we’re small town-ish. but everything’s connected now. it could happen here, in a Publix supermarket or Michael’s Craft store. 30 years ago it was inconceivable. that’s a definition of less safe.

violent crime has become random nutter on random innocent. that’s the fear. That’s a definition of less safe.

i grew up on Long Island, working in very difficult neighborhoods of NYC at tough times of day. often we only traveled in pairs. Couldn’t hire women. fedex wouldnt even go there.

but if you stayed out of those places, back then it couldn’t be almost anyone, almost anywhere.

now it can. and that is a resonable definition of less safe.

that more people are potentially subject to a somewhat less amount of total but more extreme violence.

That’s awareness, that’s reality. Not paranoia.

Do i personally not do things now because of this ‘fear’?
No. I still do what i want.
Do I think about it? yes. Do I mark the exits, consider ‘what if’? you bet. situational awareness.

that we have come so far that we even have to have this discussion

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 9:25:45am

re: #288 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, Feinstein cannot leave before her term is up because the Republicans will prevent any judicial nominees from being approved by the Judiciary Committee. She had to have retired in 2018 to have avoided this tragedy.

Nonsense. Newsom would appoint a replacement.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 25, 2023 • 9:26:25am

re: #288 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, Feinstein cannot leave before her term is up because the Republicans will prevent any judicial nominees from being approved by the Judiciary Committee. She had to have retired in 2018 to have avoided this tragedy.

Can someone explain to me why she can’t be replaced on the committee if she retires. I don’t see why they can’t name someone and tell the republicans to fuck off. They don’t have an army. yet. Sooner of latter Democrats are going to have to do this anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 9:26:26am

re: #285 Nerdy Fish

He “finds it offensive” that the police testified against him in his trial, claiming that it wasn’t the OafKeepers that were responsible for that:

He’s busy throwing others in his organisation left and right under as many buses as he can find.

Perhaps in the internal fighting to take over what remains of the Oath Keepers they will tear each other apart like the National Alliance did.

Needz moar shivs.

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Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 9:26:56am

re: #290 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He sounds like he’s trying to paint himself as a martyr. If others see him that way that doesn’t bode well to tamp down conservative violence in the future.

The jury is out of the equation now. This is sentencing, and the only person listening is the judge. The judge has already agreed to terrorism enhancements - actually, accepting all of the enhancements proposed by the DOJ. This is his last chance to avoid a VERY lengthy stay in Club Fed. And, to be blunt, he’s blowing it, trying to paint himself and the Oaf Keepers as an innocent peacekeeping organization pushing back on “Antifa violence” by escorting “innocent Trump supporters” to and from rallies. He’s smeared the Capitol Police, and said he finds being called white supremacists offensive, even boldly going down the “the KKK was a Democrat organization” road.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 9:28:17am

re: #295 JC1

Nonsense. Newsom would appoint a replacement.

Plus with the California Democratic Primary shaping up with multiple candidates, he could appoint a politician emeritus who has no plans to run for an election so as not to upset the primary.

Sort of like what Arizona did when the governor appointed John Kyl to fill the vacant seat of Sen. John McCain.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 25, 2023 • 9:28:29am

re: #278 Dr Lizardo

See, yet again why I’d never make it as judge, because after having to listen to that truckload of horseshit, I’d be all like, “Therefore, defendant Rhodes, I hereby sentence you to be hanged by the neck until dead and may God have mercy on your soul.”

- only half-joking

The judge’s alleged speech to notorious Repubican cannibal Alferd Packer:

Stand up yah voracious man-eatin’ sonofabitch and receive yir sintince. When yah came to Hinsdale County, there was siven Dimmycrats. But you, yah et five of ‘em, goddam yah. I sintince yah t’ be hanged by th’ neck ontil yer dead, dead, dead, as a warnin’ ag’in reducin’ th’ Dimmycratic populayshun of this county. Packer, you Republican cannibal, I would sintince ya ta hell but the statutes forbid it.

Alas, the quote is a fabrication but there are still almost no Democrats in Hinsdale County, Colorado.
(What amuses me about this story is the term “Republican cannibal” being used as though it refers to a whole class of people.)

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Dr. Matt  May 25, 2023 • 9:29:44am

re: #293 Dr Lizardo

That’s one I’ve never understood….Czech Republic is the second-most atheistic country in the EU, and yet people say “veselé Vánoce” during the Christmas season…even though pretty much no one here actually believes in it. For most Czechs, it’s just another pohádka (fairy tale).

The Right love playing the victim. By pretending they couldn’t say “Merry Christmas” fed their perpetual victimhood status.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 9:30:49am

re: #264 dat_said

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 9:31:23am

re: #294 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

crime statistics are about what happened.
‘less safe’ is the likelihood that it could happen to me (perception or fact).
- there was a time you (almost) didnt have to consider an office shooting unless you worked for the USPS. Now, any rando client gets pissed, or someone takes offense to being let go and… that’s a definition of less safe.

‘backwater’ was a bit tongue in cheek. we’re 15 miles from ft. lauderdale. we’re small town-ish. but everything’s connected now. it could happen here, in a Publix supermarket or Michael’s Craft store. 30 years ago it was inconceivable. that’s a definition of less safe.

violent crime has become random nutter on random innocent. that’s the fear. That’s a definition of less safe.

i grew up on Long Island, working in very difficult neighborhoods of NYC at tough times of day. often we only traveled in pairs. Couldn’t hire women. fedex wouldnt even go there.

but if you stayed out of those places, back then it couldn’t be almost anyone, almost anywhere.

now it can. and that is a resonable definition of less safe.

that more people are potentially subject to a somewhat less amount of total but more extreme violence.

That’s awareness, that’s reality. Not paranoia.

Do i personally not do things now because of this ‘fear’?
No. I still do what i want.
Do I think about it? yes. Do I mark the exits, consider ‘what if’? you bet. situational awareness.

that we have come so far that we even have to have this discussion

List of mass shootings from the 1990s: office buildings, restaurants, rural colleges, grocery stores, etc.
en.m.wikipedia.org

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BeenHereAwhile  May 25, 2023 • 9:34:20am

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 9:34:30am

re: #296 I Would Prefer Not To

Can someone explain to me why she can’t be replaced on the committee if she retires. I don’t see why they can’t name someone and tell the republicans to fuck off. They don’t have an army. yet. Sooner of latter Democrats are going to have to do this anyway.

According to the Senate rules committee members have to be approved by a majority of the Senate.

In practice, when the new Senate forms after an election, members of both parties negotiate who from each party is going to be in what committee and what the ratios are. Senate committees have ranks of importance and each party has its own rules about who serves on a committee.

Once that is agreed through negotiations, when the new Senate is sworn in, the first vote is on the new rules package and the second vote is to accept an omnibus bill with all the committee members accepted at once. The second bill is normally approved unanimously because the parties have already worked it out in advance. No one has ever filibustered the omnibus committee bill in history.

If a senator dies or resigns from the Senate, then the relevant party appoints a new senator to the committee, and that is presented to the full Senate as a bill.

If Sen. Feinstein resigns or dies, whoever is appointed to replace her would be put up to a vote by the full Senate. All it would take is one wingnut to launch a filibuster to prevent a Democrat from taking a seat on the committee.

Sen. Schumer might have the power to change the rules but would likely not have the votes (cough Sinema).

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 9:36:53am

Judge Mehta should exceed the recommended DOJ sentencing. Zero remorse. Zero self-awareness. Rhodes thinks trying to overthrow the government and interfere in the peaceful transition of power was constitutional conduct? Fuck him and the Trump horse he rode in on.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 9:39:33am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 9:41:19am

re: #306 lawhawk

Judge Mehta should exceed the recommended DOJ sentencing. Zero remorse. Zero self-awareness. Rhodes thinks trying to overthrow the government and interfere in the peaceful transition of power was constitutional conduct? Fuck him and the Trump horse he rode in on.

As I noted above, his statement to the judge was to paint himself as a martyr. That message is for other Oath Breakers and other potentially-violent wingnuts.

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🔧-wench  May 25, 2023 • 9:41:31am

re: #303 JC1

List of mass shootings from the 1990s: office buildings, restaurants, rural colleges, grocery stores, etc.
en.m.wikipedia.org

From there:

Only shootings that have Wikipedia articles of their own are included in this list.

It’s a limitation.

Also from there:

July 12, 1976 Fullerton, California 7 [died] 2 [injured] 9 [total] California State University, Fullerton, shooting: A custodian at the university killed seven people and wounded two others before fleeing the school. He was arrested.

That’s across the street from the high school I had graduated from a month earlier. I was living a mile away. Did I remember it today? No. Thanks for the reminder.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 9:43:17am

re: #303 JC1

List of mass shootings from the 1990s: office buildings, restaurants, rural colleges, grocery stores, etc.
en.m.wikipedia.org

23 ‘events’ on that list from the 1980’s (when my tenure in NYC ended)

this year we hit 23 on January 9th

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2023 • 9:43:51am

re: #241 Nerdy Fish

As Anymouse intimates, the real problem is that voters continue voting for politicians out of blind party loyalty, or name recognition, rather than out of any true sense of whether or not they’re doing the job they were elected to do, which is represent the people.

But too many voters will vote because of issues such as depriving women of choice or minorities of rights or allowing everyone to have guns and they ignore economic issues as less important than what their church tells them. Of course there are also those messages from RW media and ads from wealthy donors out to spread disinformation. As has been said, no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public (yes — I realize that’s not the original statement — but it’s one that many repeat)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 9:44:26am

Either a centrist or a sea lion weighing in: You decide.

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🔧-wench  May 25, 2023 • 9:45:46am

re: #311 Hecuba’s daughter

But too many voters will vote because of issues such as depriving women of choice or minorities of rights or allowing everyone to have guns and they ignore economic issues as less important than what their church tells them. Of course there are also those messages from RW media and ads from wealthy donors out to spread disinformation. As has been said, no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public (yes — I realize that’s not the original statement — but it’s one that many repeat)

Stochastic voting.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 9:46:43am

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

People who are fighting what they see as communism/socialism.

this is not a thing

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 9:52:56am

re: #241 Nerdy Fish

As Anymouse intimates, the real problem is that voters continue voting for politicians out of blind party loyalty, or name recognition, rather than out of any true sense of whether or not they’re doing the job they were elected to do, which is represent the people.

Numerous studies have also shown that when people who don’t pay attention to politics at all but do vote, there is a significant skew to vote for the first candidate on a list.

Several states have rules which scramble the candidates so no particular candidate gets the top position (for example, alphabetic order).

Other studies have been done where fictitious candidate’s positions are given but their party is not, and the voters will select candidates who’s positions most closely align with theirs.

There isn’t going to be a perfect system. For example, ranked-choice voting is sometimes suggested as a solution to first-past-the-post, where a minority of voters can select the winner. (Three candidates but 60% voted against the winner.)

The same issue exists with ranked-choice. If the person who voted for the sixth most-popular candidate, the one who won wasn’t that person’s choice. Unless either type of voting is an outright victory (51%+1), a candidate can get in with a minority.

The Westminster system of electing a party from which it will select a slate of candidates for office ameliorates that somewhat, but there could be real douchecanoes on the party list whilst overall you prefer that party (cough Boris Johnson).

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 9:52:57am
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2023 • 9:57:18am

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 9:57:22am
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 25, 2023 • 9:57:56am

re: #305 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

According to the Senate rules committee members have to be approved by a majority of the Senate.

In practice, when the new Senate forms after an election, members of both parties negotiate who from each party is going to be in what committee and what the ratios are. Senate committees have ranks of importance and each party has its own rules about who serves on a committee.

Once that is agreed through negotiations, when the new Senate is sworn in, the first vote is on the new rules package and the second vote is to accept an omnibus bill with all the committee members accepted at once. The second bill is normally approved unanimously because the parties have already worked it out in advance. No one has ever filibustered the omnibus committee bill in history.

If a senator dies or resigns from the Senate, then the relevant party appoints a new senator to the committee, and that is presented to the full Senate as a bill.

If Sen. Feinstein resigns or dies, whoever is appointed to replace her would be put up to a vote by the full Senate. All it would take is one wingnut to launch a filibuster to prevent a Democrat from taking a seat on the committee.

Sen. Schumer might have the power to change the rules but would likely not have the votes (cough Sinema).

Thanks. When do we get to tell Republicans to fuck off.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 9:59:19am
“It was, to borrow a Sports Illustrated phrase, a sign that the apocalypse is near. Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Minority Leader Hakeen Jeffries were all photographed wearing the so-called hybrid ‘sneaker shoes’ in a recent Oval Office meeting with President Biden.”

Link

to come to the white house like that
the oval office
meeting with the president

have they no sense of decorum?

//

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 9:59:26am

re: #310 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

23 ‘events’ on that list from the 1980’s (when my tenure in NYC ended)

this year we hit 23 on January 9th

Fair enough, though a bit of an apples and oranges comparison. Only shootings that have Wikipedia articles of their own are included in this list. Recent events are more likely to have wikipedia articles than events from the 80s.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 9:59:34am

Over/under on judge’s sentencing now stands at 23 years. I’d pick the over.

323
Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 9:59:59am
324
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 10:00:27am

re: #319 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks. When do we get to tell Republicans to fuck off.

Piglet_burn_it_down.gif

ifunny.co

325
Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 10:00:32am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

GOD DAMN IT.

326
lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 10:00:36am
327
Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 10:00:37am

re: #319 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks. When do we get to tell Republicans to fuck off.

when we get 62 senate seats
(+2 just in case)

328
JC1  May 25, 2023 • 10:01:16am

re: #316 Dr Lizardo

[Embedded content]

18 years!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 10:01:18am

re: #253 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Richard Barnett, who put his feet on Nancy Pelosi’s desk, is sentenced to over 4 years

Not. Enough. 🤬🤬

He did not vandalize, assault or threaten anyone. The sentence is not unreasonable.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 10:01:30am

re: #322 lawhawk

And I’d be wrong… again. Once again, judge fails to hand out a max sentence when one is clearly deserved. By the judge’s own logic, a max sentence was warranted. Nothing about Rhodes suggests 18 years is appropriate.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2023 • 10:02:00am

re: #246 JC1

This all started with one of our posters saying that he now feels unsafe and that things are essentially going to hell in a handbasket. How is what you’re saying more relevant to that discussion than discussing the change over time in US crime statistics?

There are major changes — the explosion of assault rifles and mass shootings. One can argue statistics but perception is what matters. School mass shootings did not happen 30 years ago. My sister was supposed to be at the Highland Park parade last July 4th and remains shaken that it was just by chance that she and her family avoided the terror of that day and that was in a supposedly safe community. The events of January 6 show that violence inspired by domestic extremism is lurking throughout our nation, though the Oklahoma City bombing certainly warned us of that. When a political party is led by nihilists and white supremacists and anti-environmentalists and a Supreme Court is dominated by judges that share those views, why should we feel safer?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 10:02:16am

re: #317 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

333
Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 10:02:16am

re: #330 lawhawk

And I’d be wrong… again. Once again, judge fails to hand out a max sentence when one is clearly deserved. By the judge’s own logic, a max sentence was warranted. Nothing about Rhodes suggests 18 years is appropriate.

Judge Mehta is also one who has not been shy about throwing the book at people, IIRC. I’m honestly baffled by this.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2023 • 10:02:23am

re: #325 Nerdy Fish

GOD DAMN IT.

He’ll be 75 when he gets out if he lives that long, assuming that a traitor is not our next President.

335
Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 10:02:45am

re: #330 lawhawk

And I’d be wrong… again. Once again, judge fails to hand out a max sentence when one is clearly deserved. By the judge’s own logic, a max sentence was warranted. Nothing about Rhodes suggests 18 years is appropriate.

Yeah. On the bright side, he’ll be around 75 when he gets out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 10:03:07am

re: #265 lawhawk

But when you think about crime in the US, where do you think crime occurs? Big cities, not rural locations where populations are more sparse. But the crime rates suggest that crime is far more dispersed and you’d be more likely to die from gun violence in the Dakotas than NYC or NYS overall.

Steve Martin brings that point up at the start of Only Murders in the Building: too many witnesses in the Big City.

337
austin_blue  May 25, 2023 • 10:04:15am

re: #330 lawhawk

And I’d be wrong… again. Once again, judge fails to hand out a max sentence when one is clearly deserved. By the judge’s own logic, a max sentence was warranted. Nothing about Rhodes suggests 18 years is appropriate.

Still, three nickels and three pennies is a good long sentence. He may very well die in the Greybar Motel.

Here’s hoping!

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 10:04:47am

re: #336 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Steve Martin brings that point up at the start of Only Murders in the Building: too many witnesses in the Big City.

Homicides in Czech Republic are pretty rare in big cities here. Small towns and villages…that’s where you need to go for the real depravity.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 10:04:54am

re: #320 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Link

to come to the white house like that
the oval office
meeting with the president

have they no sense of decorum?

//

Skechers Slip-ons. the ones Snoop is Selling…
They.Are.Straight.Up.Awesome!!!

340
Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 10:05:00am
341
lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 10:05:00am

re: #334 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Or paroled for “good behavior”.

342
Dr. Matt  May 25, 2023 • 10:05:34am

One-Eyed Oaf Kkkeeper gets 18 years. Good riddance, fucktard.

343
🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2023 • 10:06:31am

re: #340 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

It is a fantasy unless overseas manufacturing gets destroyed again to produce a boom here like after WWII.

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piratedan  May 25, 2023 • 10:06:45am

re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought that he had left Nancy a note on her desk with the implied threat that it was unfortunate that she was not there to meet him “this time”, while he was in her office with a taser…

to me, that should have bought him a ten stretch….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 10:07:19am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

Homicides in Czech Republic are pretty rare in big cities here. Small towns and villages…that’s where you need to go for the real depravity.

remember that “villain” and “village” are related words.

Just look at the Boberts, Pailns or the Duggar Clan

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 10:07:33am

re: #340 Dave In Austin

IIRC, real purchasing power reached it’s peak in the 1970s (either the Nixon or Ford administration), then stagnated a bit, then went downhill starting towards the mid-point of Reagan’s first term.

347
Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 10:08:51am

re: #346 Dr Lizardo

Oil Embargo. That was the start of it.

348
Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 25, 2023 • 10:08:52am

RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel told Fox News that the U.S. potentially defaulting on its debt “bodes very well for the Republican field.”

destroy the world economy, but it helps our election

dems should blast this everywhere

349
Eventual Carrion  May 25, 2023 • 10:09:06am

Bunny sleeping peacefully at the window, at least until Friddie comes back into the house. And look at her shedding her winter wool. I can comb her and sticky roll the sofa cover and within a day it is back to hair covered.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 10:09:33am

re: #333 Nerdy Fish

Judge Mehta is also one who has not been shy about throwing the book at people, IIRC. I’m honestly baffled by this.

Perhaps because he doesn’t consider the group white supremacists. He is also giving credit for alleged good work the Oaf Keepers have done in the past.

Seditious conspiracy carries a maximum sentence of twenty years. To get to twenty-five he would have to have other sentences served consecutively.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 10:11:28am

re: #350 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Stewart Rhodes is sentenced to almost 4 years more: 216 months

21.6 months for each piggie toe he rested on Nancy’s desk…

352
Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2023 • 10:12:30am

So have most of the major J6 assholes been sentenced now or are there more to come?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 10:12:30am
354
Nerdy Fish  May 25, 2023 • 10:12:57am

re: #350 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Perhaps because he doesn’t consider the group white supremacists. He is also giving credit for alleged good work the Oaf Keepers have done in the past.

Seditious conspiracy carries a maximum sentence of twenty years. To get to twenty-five he would have to have other sentences served consecutively.

So basically, the judge really did throw the book at him, it just doesn’t LOOK like it because there’s complications regarding consecutive vs. concurrent and supposed good behavior.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 10:14:32am

re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There’s an unsolved homicide in my neck of the woods, in a nearby small town called Proskovice. A 22-year-old woman was found dead on the side of the road in Proskovice back in 1995, not far from the house where she lived with her parents. She was last seen here in Ostrava, at a long-defunct rock music club.

No one knows how she got from Ostrava to Proskovice (not a huge distance, about eight kilometers) because she didn’t have a car - she got a ride to Ostrava from a friend, but how she got back to her hometown is unknown. She was strangled with a ligature, with no evidence of sexual assault.

The cops questioned everyone in Proskovice and a couple villages close by, but…bupkis. The cops are convinced that her killer is almost certainly someone from Proskovice, but there’s simply no evidence to arrest anyone in connection with her death.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 25, 2023 • 10:15:00am

re: #248 lawhawk

GOP is all-in on the sabotage of the US govt and the effort to destroy Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid as well as impose “work” requirements to obtain benefits for a variety of programs, even though many people are of retirement age or have physical disabilities that prevent work to satisfy those requirements.

Why?

Because destroying these programs would inure benefit to billionaires? Well, that’s their “thinking”, because they’re pushing these disastrous policies that would further entrench TCJA tax scam provisions that added trillions to debt and the GOP thinks all of this is perfectly acceptable.

Destroying the social safety net would be the GOP dream of defeating the New Deal come true. Take that FDR and all your socialist minions!
(half /)

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 10:15:12am

re: #354 Nerdy Fish

18 years is not 20 years (max for seditious conspiracy). Throwing the book would have been all 20 years as permitted by statute. This was less than a max sentence, even as it was a longer sentence than anything handed down previously (because this was the first of the seditious conspiracy sentencing cases to be heard).

But if this is a sign of things to come, expect that other seditious conspiracy cases to come in at or below this benchmark.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 10:15:45am

re: #352 Eclectic Cyborg

So have most of the major J6 assholes been sentenced now or are there more to come?

There’s a few in Congress yet. A couple of others such as John Eastman who were the friendly face of the conspiracy, along with Trump’s various lawyers who participated yet still walk free.

Then there’s that bit going on in Fulton County, Georgia.

All of these things have the appearance of coordination. (I’m not a lawyer but I read a lot of legal explanations.)

359
Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2023 • 10:16:41am

re: #295 JC1

Nonsense. Newsom would appoint a replacement.

He can but it is my understanding that because of arcane rules that person could not be seated on the Judiciary Committee without the approval of the GOP — and that’s not happening.

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steve_davis  May 25, 2023 • 10:16:59am

re: #229 Nerdy Fish

I’m coming around to being in favor of age limits, not term limits. I know Senator Feinstein has had a long and distinguished career, but I think her career should end gracefully, not like this. However, long-term politicians know how the sausage is made, and help retain institutional memory. I almost wonder if, in places where term limits are instituted, the state houses should hire permanent long-term staffers, so that the rotating cast of congresscritters will always have experienced and capable staff to ensure the legislative machine keeps running smoothly.

that would get you yes, prime minister, with a bunch of bureaucratic clogs ensuring that nothing ever actually manages to change.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 25, 2023 • 10:18:45am

re: #289 Dave In Austin

How many flies will be in attendance?

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No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 10:19:04am

re: #357 lawhawk

18 years is not 20 years (max for seditious conspiracy). Throwing the book would have been all 20 years as permitted by statute. This was less than a max sentence, even as it was a longer sentence than anything handed down previously (because this was the first of the seditious conspiracy sentencing cases to be heard).

But if this is a sign of things to come, expect that other seditious conspiracy cases to come in at or below this benchmark.

Rhodes will be in his seventies, if he lives that long, before he’s out, and that’s good enough for me. His only hope now is Trump being installed as President in 2025 and pardoning him.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 10:20:51am
364
No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 10:21:52am

re: #352 Eclectic Cyborg

So have most of the major J6 assholes been sentenced now or are there more to come?

The Proud Boys, including their former leader Tarrio, were only recently convicted, so they haven’t been sentenced yet, and a bunch of Rhodes’ accomplices are supposed to be sentenced today as well, I think.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2023 • 10:23:03am

re: #363 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

I hadn’t thought about Trump and his invisible dicks handjob thing in quite a while.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 10:23:04am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

There’s an unsolved homicide in my neck of the woods, in a nearby small town called Proskovice. …

Here the police are still puzzled by the mysterious disappearance of Granny Böppchen, who went missing under mysterious circumstances from the family house on the Rhine. Police even came and tore apart the walls of the house looking for clues.

Seems that her grandson (and heir) us a suspect.

But really, why hide her in the walls when you have a whole big river right across the road?

367
Teukka  May 25, 2023 • 10:23:55am
368
JC1  May 25, 2023 • 10:24:22am

re: #331 Hecuba’s daughter

There are major changes — the explosion of assault rifles and mass shootings. One can argue statistics but perception is what matters. School mass shootings did not happen 30 years ago. My sister was supposed to be at the Highland Park parade last July 4th and remains shaken that it was just by chance that she and her family avoided the terror of that day and that was in a supposedly safe community. The events of January 6 show that violence inspired by domestic extremism is lurking throughout our nation, though the Oklahoma City bombing certainly warned us of that. When a political party is led by nihilists and white supremacists and anti-environmentalists and a Supreme Court is dominated by judges that share those views, why should we feel safer?

en.m.wikipedia.org

We’re closing in on 30 years since Columbine.

The rate of school shootings has increased in recent decades to an unacceptable level. The easy availability of guns is the biggest culprit. The likelihood of being in a school shooting is still exceedingly small. We should do better and demand that our politicians do better.
The supreme court is filled with Federalist hacks.

You should feel optimistic and safe(r) because of the following reasons (among others).
1/6 foot soldiers are going away for years.
One of their leaders is going away for a decade+.
We have 2 blue senators in Georgia.
Election deniers/maga underperformed everywhere in 2022 outside of FL and NY. And NY was self inflicted.
Unemployment is at multi decade lows.
Minority unemployment is at all time lows.
We have magical gadgets in the palms of our hands that grant us access to all accumulated human knowledge and allow us to communicate with instantly with folks around the globe (as we’re doing now).
We have the technology to spin up effective vaccines against before unseen pathogens in less than a year; something that would have taken 5-10x longer a decade ago.
We’re moving towards electric vehicles at an accelerated rate, which will make a sizable dent in carbon emissions.
The younger generations are more inclusive and more engaged. Demographics is destiny.

As bad as things seem, they’ve been far worse before in the recent history of this country. Progress isn’t a straight line; it zigs zags a bit. It wasn’t that long ago that ‘don’t ask don’t tell’, marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman, and refer madness insanity were mainstream positions in the democratic party.

I could go on and on and on. Things aren’t perfect, they could always get better, but I see plenty to be optimistic about. And I chose to focus on that.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 10:25:35am

re: #358 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There’s also a few of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys who were convicted but not yet sentenced. Their cases followed Rhodes so we’ll see them in next few weeks/months.

370
gocart mozart  May 25, 2023 • 10:25:43am
371
JC1  May 25, 2023 • 10:26:22am

re: #343 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

It is a fantasy unless overseas manufacturing gets destroyed again to produce a boom here like after WWII.

Cold war with China (a non zero possibility) would do it.

372
Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 10:27:12am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One case out of Germany I stumbled upon that, to the best of my knowledge, remains unsolved, is that of Katrin Konert, who vanished on 1 January 2001 from Groß Gaddau.

int-missing.fandom.com

373
JC1  May 25, 2023 • 10:27:25am

re: #348 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel told Fox News that the U.S. potentially defaulting on its debt “bodes very well for the Republican field.”

destroy the world economy, but it helps our election

dems should blast this everywhere

Yeah, just like overturing RvW worked out so well for them.

374
No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 10:28:17am

re: #367 Teukka

DeSantis will need his Stormtroopers.

375
🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2023 • 10:28:45am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Here the police are still puzzled by the mysterious disappearance of Granny Böppchen, who went missing under mysterious circumstances from the family house on the Rhine. Police even came and tore apart the walls of the house looking for clues.

Seems that her grandson (and heir) us a suspect.

But really, why hide her in the walls when you have a whole big river right across the road?

That might be just to harass the suspect, hoping he’ll crack. No one likes to have their walls torn apart, and there’s no reason to do so unless a trained dog indicated a corpse in the area.

376
gocart mozart  May 25, 2023 • 10:29:00am
377
lawhawk  May 25, 2023 • 10:29:48am

re: #369 lawhawk

Tarrio and the other Proud Boys are expected to get sentenced in July.

378
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 10:29:56am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

There’s an unsolved homicide in my neck of the woods, in a nearby small town called Proskovice. A 22-year-old woman was found dead on the side of the road in Proskovice back in 1995, not far from the house where she lived with her parents. She was last seen here in Ostrava, at a long-defunct rock music club.

No one knows how she got from Ostrava to Proskovice (not a huge distance, about eight kilometers) because she didn’t have a car - she got a ride to Ostrava from a friend, but how she got back to her hometown is unknown. She was strangled with a ligature, with no evidence of sexual assault.

The cops questioned everyone in Proskovice and a couple villages close by, but…bupkis. The cops are convinced that her killer is almost certainly someone from Proskovice, but there’s simply no evidence to arrest anyone in connection with her death.

The only homicide in my neck of the woods recently was in 2012. In that year where the murder occurred (Angora, population 1), the murder rate in that community was 100%. The person who lived there wasn’t the victim. He was also convicted of arson and kidnapping.

It was a complicated case. The county prosecutor had to call in help from other prosecutors in the state because he’d never tried such a serious crime.

In short, a fellow had a girlfriend in the Angora area. He was also dealing drugs in the local area with a buddy who lived in Colorado.

The drug dealer and his buddy apparently had some dispute. He called his buddy up from Colorado to discuss it, and then kidnapped him from Bridgeport using his girlfriend’s VW bug, and took him to Angora, where he murdered him.

He then ripped out the passenger seat of the Bug, stuffed the body in a barrel, then drove the body to the North Platte River. He threw the barrel in the river near Bayard. He then drove the car back to Angora and set it on fire. As far as anyone knows, the girlfriend had no idea about the murder or the drug-dealing.

A rancher discovered the barrel washed up on his ranch, so he took a look inside. He called the Bayard Police, who called in the State Patrol. The case went cold after a few weeks as they could not find the suspect. The girlfriend had no idea where he went. A warrant was put out by the State Patrol and the Bayard Police to arrest him on charges of murder, kidnapping, and arson.

Months later, he was pulled over for speeding in Cheyenne. While running his name through their computers, the Cheyenne police officer came across the warrants and he was arrested there and returned to Nebraska to stand trial.

He disputed the charges, pleading innocence, but the evidence against him was damning. He was convicted on all three charges and will spend the rest of his life as a guest of the State Penitentiary.

The county prosecutor lost his next election because a HUGE wingnut ran for prosecutor. The election campaign was ugly. Both men are Republicans (and the former county prosecutor is our village attorney).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 25, 2023 • 10:30:23am

Remember: a lot of Republicans (and Libertarians and anti-Global Capitalists) see the collapse of the world financial system as inevitable, might as well get it over now, and on Biden’s watch, so he can take the blame for it.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2023 • 10:31:09am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And here’s a pretty good writeup on the case, in English, from Reddit’s Unresolved Mysteries subreddit.

reddit.com

It’s a weird case and might well remain one of those forever cold cases.

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JC1  May 25, 2023 • 10:31:57am

re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember: a lot of Republicans (and Libertarians and anti-Global Capitalists) see the collapse of the world financial system as inevitable, might as well get it over now, and on Biden’s watch, so he can take the blame for it.

The big donors will give them a massive kick in the ass once the markets sell off. They’ll fold.

382
Dave In Austin  May 25, 2023 • 10:32:00am
383
No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 10:32:08am

re: #370 gocart mozart

384
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 25, 2023 • 10:33:16am

re: #328 JC1

18 years!

Not. Enough.

385
No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 10:34:27am

re: #382 Dave In Austin

What rightwing racism?

386
🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2023 • 10:34:29am

re: #382 Dave In Austin

387
JC1  May 25, 2023 • 10:35:00am

re: #384 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not. Enough.

Agreed, but it’s not a slap on the wrist. And the guy wasn’t even in DC on 1/6 right?

388
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 25, 2023 • 10:35:47am

re: #341 lawhawk

Or paroled for “good behavior”.

Very unlikely.

I’m rooting for that. Add 10 more years.

389
No Malarkey!  May 25, 2023 • 10:35:54am

re: #387 JC1

Agreed, but it’s not a slap on the wrist. And the guy wasn’t even in DC on 1/6 right?

He was in DC. He just didn’t enter the Capitol with his troops.

390
🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2023 • 10:37:39am

re: #389 No Malarkey!

He was in DC. He just didn’t enter the Capitol with his troops.

Not as stupid as the people he manipulated, but still stupid enough to get himself locked up.

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sagehen  May 25, 2023 • 10:46:20am

re: #351 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

21.6 months for each piggie toe he rested on Nancy’s desk…

nah, that was the other guy.

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steve_davis  May 25, 2023 • 10:49:25am

re: #341 lawhawk

Or paroled for “good behavior”.

federal time. they don’t parole for ‘good behavior.” They don’t parole for anything.

393
sagehen  May 25, 2023 • 11:00:15am

re: #387 JC1

Agreed, but it’s not a slap on the wrist. And the guy wasn’t even in DC on 1/6 right?

that’s Tarrio; he was banned from DC because of an earlier case (tearing down a Black Lives Matter banner from a church and setting it on fire).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 25, 2023 • 11:03:56am

[moved by me]

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TedStriker  May 25, 2023 • 2:54:01pm

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

Homicides in Czech Republic are pretty rare in big cities here. Small towns and villages…that’s where you need to go for the real depravity.

Cabot Cove and Midsomer County are just ahead of the curve.

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