The Wooten Brothers: SWEAT

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Starring Victor Wooten, Joseph “Hands of Soul” Wooten, Roy “Futureman” Wooten, and Regi “Teacha” Wooten

SWEAT
Where we running, y’all?
We running to the sun!
Mornin’ run…
Get up!
Here we go!

It’s 6 A.M.
Monday morning
No time for sleeping
No time for yawning

There’s no day off
And no vacation
Just hard work, dedication,
And perspiration
(You know it’s time to)

SWEAT! (I need to)
SWEAT! (I got to)
SWEAT!
‘Cause every time I sweat
I’m hot as I can get
(Listen)

They say the early bird
Catches the worm
Sometimes you win, and
Sometimes you learn

There’s nothing wrong with striving
To be the best
Hard work and dedication
Put to the test
(Every single night I got to)

SWEAT! (I need to)
SWEAT! (I got to)
SWEAT!
‘Cause every time I sweat
I’m hot as I can get
(Brother, Regi…)

(Teacha!)

SWEAT in the mornin’
Sweating in the night
SWEAT in the evenin’
Make everything alright
Sweating when I’m running
Never gonna stop
‘Cause keep working
“Til I reach the top
(I got to…)

Sweat is Funky
I’m not bon’ lie
But sweat will sting you
When it get’s in your eyes
Sweat is water
Sweat is salt
If you can’t feel the groove
It’s not my fault!
Got to

SWEAT in the mornin’
Sweating in the night
SWEAT in the evenin’
Make everything alright
I’m sweating when I’m lovin’
When I’m with you
‘Cause everything I do
Been workin’ for you
(I need to…)

(I got to) WORK!

(I want to) DANCE!

(I have to) JAM!

Every single night I got to
SWEAT!

Director: Leah Ruth
Director of Photography: Taylor Zorzi
Art Director: Lauren Driskell
1st AC: Harrison Reed

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145 comments
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William Lewis  Sep 30, 2023 • 12:45:37pm

Sigh. Needed some eggs and bread. Went to Kwik Trip. Came home. There’s a car in my alley. I pulled in and was waiting for it to move. It did. BACKWARDS. I hit the horn. She hit me. Now a 2000 Chevy Silverado with a brush guard is a sturdy beast, I didn’t even notice the impact but her little Ford’s rear lift door got munged. She gets out says she looked but didn’t see me (how?) gets back in her car and starts pulling ahead, I pull into my spot and figure I’m going to need to talk to cops but nope, she’s zooming off. Oh kay… my truck isn’t even scratched, she can fight with her insurance without a police report.

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BigPapa  Sep 30, 2023 • 12:49:37pm

Reptile was a good flick. Benicio Del Toro classic.

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Teukka  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:12:51pm
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:14:23pm

re: #3 Teukka

I remember that all too well. A very sad day for NASA.

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William Lewis  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:19:31pm

re: #3 Teukka

This weeks Plainly Difficult: [Embedded content]

I was visiting a friend from High School in Tokyo and was listening to the launch on Armed Forces Network Radio. I sat there crying and blew through a bottle of duty free Johnny Walker Red that night.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:26:22pm
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lizardofid  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:31:33pm

re: #5 William Lewis

I was visiting a friend from High School in Tokyo and was listening to the launch on Armed Forces Network Radio. I sat there crying and blew through a bottle of duty free Johnny Walker Red that night.

I was on a job in Marion NC. I had gone up to the old hardware store in the downtown, and was at the counter paying for a chisel and a handful of screws. There was about a 13” black and white tv behind the counter, and I watched it all in slightly confused silence, with 4 or 5 people I didn’t know. Surreal.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:31:48pm

re: #5 William Lewis

I was visiting a friend from High School in Tokyo and was listening to the launch on Armed Forces Network Radio. I sat there crying and blew through a bottle of duty free Johnny Walker Red that night.

I had just come back to the dorm from class and saw it happening on the TV in someone’s room. We drank heavily that night, too.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:31:53pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:34:17pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

The Abyss.

That was real.

The rat demonstration scene in The Abyss was unsimulated and used real-life oxygenated breathing fluid. Ed Harris, however, was tasked with pretending to breathe in his water-filled helmet. This was especially challenging during underwater shots, of which there were many.

filmschoolrejects.com

I was watching the Abyss in a movie theater and not really getting the movie (good acting & SF special effects were very well done) until the scene in which the white rat breathed oxygenated Fluorinert. That scene was an epiphany and hooked me into the movie until the last scene.

As a SF buff, the rat scene made me believe, and was well worth the price of admission.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:34:28pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:35:08pm

where’s my tiny violin?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:39:46pm

re: #12 Backwoods Sleuth

where’s my tiny violin?

[Embedded content]

Oh Cernovich…don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time…

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:44:39pm

‘An evil smile’: Trump supporter charged with attempted murder

A Trump supporter who shot an activist at a prayer vigil in Española yesterday has been charged with attempted murder and aggravated assault, according to court documents.

Video shows Ryan Martinez, 23, was chased out of the prayer vigil at the site of a proposed statue of racist war criminal Juan de Oñate. After escaping over a short wall, Martinez turned around and drew a pistol, firing one shot before fleeing the scene.

The shot hit 42-year-old Jacob Johns (Hopi and Akimel O’odham), according to an affidavit for an arrest warrant for Martinez. A Gofundme page for Johns’ medical bills shared by organizers of the prayer vigil said Johns “dedicated his life to Indigenous and climate justice [and] is a skilled muralist and speaker, and specializes in non-violent, peaceful ‘artivism.’”

Martinez is the third Trump supporter in New Mexico to be charged with a politically-motivated shooting in as many years, following a 2020 shooting at an Oñate statue in Albuquerque (charges related to the shooting were dropped in that case) and a series of shootings at Democrat officials’ homes allegedly carried out by failed Republican candidate Solomon Peña.

Threats against Democrats in New Mexico, some encouraged by Republican elected officials, have proliferated in recent weeks following governor Michelle Lujan Grisham’s controversial emergency order banning public carrying of firearms in Bernalillo County.

The affidavit describes the shooting and subsequent arrest and interview of Martinez. According to a witness interviewed by New Mexico State Police, Martinez and a group of protesters in support of the statue arrived at the prayer vigil Thursday morning and began agitating the peaceful prayer group.

Martinez, wearing a Make America Great Again hat, was “walking around and trying to provoke negative reactions with various people,” according to the witness. The witness told state police she “noticed something out of the ordinary about Ryan” and had children present at the vigil congregate around a shrine that had been set up outside the county building where the statue’s installation was planned.

According to the witness, Martinez tried to reach the area where the children were gathered, but a group of peacekeepers blocked his way. After hopping the small wall surrounding the plaza, Martinez shot Johns and then pointed his gun at the witness, the affidavit says. The witness said Martinez “had an evil smile.”

Another witness interviewed by state police said Martinez and other men in MAGA hats were “walking around and acting as if they wanted to start something,” according to the affidavit. That witness said Martinez was “making racist comments to children” prior to the shooting.

Martinez fled the scene in a white Tesla and was pursued by an attendee of the prayer vigil before police pulled him over, according to the affidavit. He was taken to the Española Police Department interview room, where he was questioned by state police.

rawstory.com

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:46:39pm

re: #12 Backwoods Sleuth

where’s my tiny violin?

@Cernovich

When we lose in 2024, I’ll be hunted down and murdered by the regime.”

That’s a really weird fantasy to have - even more so - if you’re looking for some justification to pre-engage in a terroristic act.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:51:57pm

re: #12 Backwoods Sleuth

where’s my tiny violin?

He’s projecting from what he knows usually happens to traitors and terrorists.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:52:17pm

Here is George Clooney response after Trump accused him of being a “Hollywood elite.”

“Here’s the thing: I grew up in Kentucky. I sold insurance door-to-door. I sold ladies’ shoes. I worked at an all-night liquor store. I would buy suits that were too big and too long and cut the bottom of the pants off to make ties so I’d have a tie to go on job interviews. I grew up understanding what it was like to not have health insurance for eight years.

So this idea that I’m somehow the “Hollywood elite” and this guy who takes a shit in a gold toilet is somehow the man of the people is laughable.

People in Hollywood, for the most part, are people from the Midwest who moved to Hollywood to have a career. So this idea of “coastal elites” living in a bubble is ridiculous. Who lives in a bigger bubble?

He lives in a gold tower and has twelve people in his company. He doesn’t run a corporation of hundreds of thousands of people he employs and takes care of. He ran a company of twelve people!

When you direct a film you have seven different unions all wanting different things, you have to find consensus with all of them, and you have to get them moving in the same direction.

He’s never had to do any of that kind of stuff. I just look at it and I laugh when I see him say “Hollywood elite.” Hollywood elite? I don’t have a star on Hollywood Boulevard, Donald Trump has a star on Hollywood Boulevard! Fuck you!”

- George Clooney

actor, philanthropist, humanitarian & activist

I’ve known George and his family for a long time (my father worked with Rosemary and George’s dad, Nick). Auntie Rosemary was a star, but she was always and will remain the girl next door. His dad was a well-known journalist in the region and was our US Rep for one term. Nick and Nina still live down the road a ways.
The Clooneys are just regular people; something tfg will never be.

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mmmirele  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:52:27pm

Don’t think this has gotten reported:

Japan government plans to seek court order to dissolve Unification Church

The Japanese government plans to seek a court order to disband the Unification Church, a government source said Saturday, a move that comes after a months-long probe into the religious group over allegations of soliciting financially ruinous donations from members and other questionable practices.

Scrutiny of the group intensified after former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was fatally shot during an election campaign speech last year over his perceived links to the entity, an incident which also brought to light its connections with many ruling party lawmakers.

According to the source, the Cultural Affairs Agency is currently considering convening a meeting of an advisory body on religious institutions — possibly on Oct. 12 — to report its plan, and then asking the Tokyo District Court to issue an order to dissolve the group, the source said.

The agency has judged through documents submitted from the Unification Church and statements of victims who were pressured into making massive donations that the group’s practices amounted to violations of the Religious Corporations Act, according to the source.

The law allows Japanese courts to order the dissolution of a religious group that has committed an act which is “clearly found to harm public welfare substantially.”

If dissolved, the Unification Church, founded in South Korea in 1954 and formally known as the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification, would lose its status as a religious corporation in Japan and be deprived of tax benefits, although it could still operate as an entity.

So far, only two religious organizations have received a dissolution order from a Japanese court because of legal violations. One was the AUM Shinrikyo cult, which carried out the deadly 1995 sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway system.

More at the link: english.kyodonews.net

I’m thinking that if Kyodo News is reporting it, it’s likely going to happen. And it’s truly remarkable that the assassin of Abe Shinzo actually got something he wanted out of his act.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:52:40pm

re: #3 Teukka

I was going through a service school at NAS Cecil Field in Jacksonville.

The school let out to watch the launch from Cape Canaveral. All of standing outside watching were stunned and silent when large cloud appeared and the booster rockets went off in separate directions, because we knew what had happened without a television announcer telling us.

The Navy school was cancelled right after that for the day and the next, and we went home.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:53:57pm

re: #12 Backwoods Sleuth

where’s my tiny violin?

[Embedded content]

Does CNN still employ this hack?

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:55:27pm

re: #5 William Lewis

I was visiting a friend from High School in Tokyo and was listening to the launch on Armed Forces Network Radio. I sat there crying and blew through a bottle of duty free Johnny Walker Red that night.

It was morning in CA, and I had just gotten up when I heard “Challenger exploded at takeoff” or something like it. Turned on the TV.

I don’t drink, but it was not a good day.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 30, 2023 • 1:58:20pm

re: #3 Teukka

On an unrelated note, the YouTuber notes he wasn’t born yet when this happened.

I refuse to feel old about this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:02:50pm

I was 4 years old at the time of the Challenger disaster and have no memory of it.

I do vividly remember Columbia though.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:04:11pm

pro-lifers in disarray…

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:05:41pm

re: #3 Teukka

This weeks Plainly Difficult: [Embedded content]

I was driving thru a parking garage in downtown Miami when the news came over the radio. Upset, I immediately started singing, “Ground Control To Major Tom.”

Subsequently read the after action reporting (the Miami Herald did some really good reporting on the dialogue between engineers (No Go) and NASA admin (Go) prior to the launch).

Consensus:

Good PR was deemed more important than risk assessment of launching the most complicated assembly of machinery ever devised by mankind under conditions outside design parameters.

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lizardofid  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:10:53pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

I was 4 years old at the time of the Challenger disaster and have no memory of it.

I do vividly remember Columbia though.

i was closer for that one. I was in the house east of Dallas when the dog started howling outside, and then we heard the sonic booms. The debris field was started 100 miles or so further east.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:11:53pm

re: #24 Backwoods Sleuth

Gov. Mike DeWine and the Catholic Church are openly calling to impose their religion on the entire state regarding abortion.

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BigPapa  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:12:23pm

re: #12 Backwoods Sleuth

where’s my tiny violin?

[Embedded content]

Cernovich is eliciting the broken arrow pretext of fascists: ‘they’ are going to come for me and do the most evil thing. Therefore, anything I do is justification, no matter how evil.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:13:26pm

Do it House Republicans, Please Do it!

rawstory.com

GOPers ready to give impeachment lead to Jim Jordan after failed James Comer hearing

Republicans are ready to take away the impeachment inquiry from Rep. James Comer (R-KY) and hand it over to Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) after the first hearing flopped.

GOP lawmakers, including Reps. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) and Matt Gaetz (R-FL), are complaining that Comer’s witnesses testified that they hadn’t seen any evidence that President Joe Biden had committed any crimes, and they’re confused why the Kentucky Republican invited outside experts instead of fact witnesses, reported Politico Playbook.

“I wasn’t thrilled with the witnesses,” Boebert said, but added that she thinks the Oversight Committee will improve.

However, some Republicans believe Jordan is more experienced and that the Judiciary Committee he leads was the more natural home for impeachment inquiries.

“People are just not happy,” said senior GOP aide. “[Jordan has] been tested on this stuff.”

Comer’s critics worried that he set the bar too high for impeaching Biden by suggesting they must prove the president personally benefitted from his family’s foreign business, saying that evidence might not actually exist, and Republicans have been pressing him to lower the threshold to show that he engaged in “abuse of power” by taking no action to stop his family from trading on his name.

“People’s perception is that Comer doesn’t really take counsel,” said a second senior GOP aide, according to the report.

Republicans have also questioned his media strategy, saying Comer had been feeding conservative media instead of making his case to a skeptical public through mainstream media appearances.

“The conservative press will write whatever you want them to write — why would you go there first?” said the second GOP aide. “Mainstream media reporting gives credibility to the narrative.”

rawstory.com

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BigPapa  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:15:36pm

I moved on from Reptile to The Informer with Joel Kinnaman, another great actor. The Reptile was good but it rested largely on Del Toro. The Informer is a much more complete and intense movie, with Kinnaman having as much gravitas as Del Toro.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:18:37pm

Definitely a real flamingo.

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silverdolphin  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:19:52pm

How each member voted on House stopgap bill to avoid shutdown WaPo Gift Link

Has a complete breakdonw of the numbers. 209 D and 126 R voted for. 1 D and 90 R voted against. 7 present but did not vote.

Pelosi appears not to have been present as she has norecirded vote. This only passed becasue of Dems. It is missing the $6 billion in aid for Ukraine in the Senate bill. But does have disaster aid.

First, $6 billion is a rounding error that I would not be surprised to see the Pentagon at least loan Ukraine. But this does demonstrate a real split in the GOP and I expect the chaos that will occur is one reason Jeffries eventually asked the Dems to pass the bill. The Freedom Caucus is in a corner now - if they do not remove the Speaker they show they have no power. But the Speaker could make a deal with the Dems and maybe keep his job with their support (“As Speaker of the House, I have decided to bring a vote on the impeachment inquiry to the floor to decide if we should proceed further.” We know how that owuld turn out.)

If it plays out this way, the Freedom Caucus and Trump are now isolated with reducing power. And the Main Street/ Wall Street Republicans begin to work more and more with Third way Democrats to lead the way to a new political party. (I can dream ;-)

It is up to the Senate now. I expect they will pass it. They could also add an amendment for the Ukraine money, sending to to a conference committee to hassle the differing versions out.

But I expect they will pass it and send to Biden. If not, it will only cause more chaos for the GOP (who are the only ones who could shut it down), which is good.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:22:19pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:23:52pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:25:38pm
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silverdolphin  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:28:02pm

Last blooms of the year. Not a great year for reblooms. I think I need to fertilize more. But a great year anyway. Now onto transplanting those that need it into bigger pots.

Carnivals and Cotton Candy
Playmate of the Month
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silverdolphin  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:29:41pm

You know that Trump, who expected the shutdown to delay his Federal trials, has to be covering the walls in ketchup.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:33:09pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon ✅

“The conservative press will write whatever you want them to write — why would you go there first?” said the second GOP aide. “Mainstream media reporting gives credibility to the narrative.”

So it’s only Fake News when it doesn’t convey your lies? Got it.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:34:31pm

re: #12 Backwoods Sleuth

where’s my tiny violin?

[Embedded content]

It also occurred to me that if a chud like Cernovich actually believed any of this, he would immediately shit himself, rat out his fellow saboteurs and traitors, and start prostrating himself in the direction of Delaware 6 times a day while singing the praises of Uncle Joe Biden.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:38:04pm

JFC

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:38:11pm

re: #36 silverdolphin

Last blooms of the year. Not a great year for reblooms. I think I need to fertilize more. But a great year anyway. Now onto transplanting those that need it into bigger pots.

[Embedded content]

I thought I saw some really short (4 to 6 inch), light purple day lilies, until I asked someone who had them in her yard. Autumn Crocuses. Since then, I’ve seen some that look more like crocuses (smaller flower, same color), now I see all shapes and sizes. All the same color. It is not an autumn color. Or was not.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:39:00pm
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:39:10pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Love your avatar. Is that a Silver Versailles?

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:41:10pm

re: #40 Backwoods Sleuth

Which “Wannabe dictator is he talking about, WSJ?” Milley doesn’t mention a name.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:42:00pm

re: #42 Backwoods Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I love how Summer smacked those Republican assholes down!

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Dangerman  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:42:02pm

re: #37 silverdolphin

You know that Trump, who expected the shutdown to delay his Federal trials, has to be covering the walls in ketchup.

I would have preferred the shutdown.
And then his reaction when he found out it wouldn’t delay anything. ;-)

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:42:11pm
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jeffreyw  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:45:29pm
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Dangerman  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:45:33pm

re: #12 Backwoods Sleuth

where’s my tiny violin?

[Embedded content]

Dude, no one in “the regime” even knows who you are

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:46:57pm

At least that capybara did something constructive unlike the Republicans in the House!

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BigPapa  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:49:03pm

re: #30 BigPapa

I moved on from Reptile to The Informer with Joel Kinnaman, another great actor. The Reptile was good but it rested largely on Del Toro. The Informer is a much more complete and intense movie, with Kinnaman having as much gravitas as Del Toro.

The Informer is a fantastic movie through and through. Best on Netflix in a while.

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darthstar  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:58:21pm

Okay - Internet set up at the new house.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 2:58:51pm

re: #52 darthstar

That is good to hear. :)

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BigPapa  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:01:02pm

re: #52 darthstar

Okay - Internet set up at the new house.

Coo l! H ow f as t

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sizzzzlerz  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:02:40pm

re: #25 BeenHereAwhile

I was driving thru a parking garage in downtown Miami when the news came over the radio. Upset, I immediately started singing, “Ground Control To Major Tom.”

Subsequently read the after action reporting (the Miami Herald did some really good reporting on the dialogue between engineers (No Go) and NASA admin (Go) prior to the launch).

Consensus:

Good PR was deemed more important than risk assessment of launching the most complicated assembly of machinery ever devised by mankind under conditions outside design parameters.

The decision to launch given the strong opposition by the Thiokol engineers is one of the most bone-headed decisions ever. It truly was one made for political reasons (President Ronny Raygun was pushing NASA hard to launch because he wanted to mention it in his state of the union address) at the cost of good engineering and plain, old common sense. NASA and Thiokol were pussies in the face of the pressure and 7 people died a horrible death as a result incuding Christa McAuliffe (who, frankly, should never have been there at all).

One of the more disgusting affairs this country has produced among many.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:05:10pm

re: #43 PhillyPretzel ✅

Love your avatar. Is that a Silver Versailles?

Thanks! Silver Shadow Series 1 (1968)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:05:58pm

First polls after the “debate” shows Trump with a jump upwards, pretty much everyone else deflating.

And the betting odds for Trump winning the nomination jumped up too.

The shoe that needs to drop has to come from a judge’s foot.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:07:10pm

from capybara farts and then lookie I found!

Youtube Video

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BigPapa  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:09:29pm

re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The shoe that needs to drop has to come from a judge’s foot.

I hope from multiple judge’s feet. Repeatedly. And again, and again.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:09:53pm


Mask off.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:10:59pm

re: #49 Dangerman

Dude, no one in “the regime” even knows who you are

or even cares…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:11:29pm

re: #28 BigPapa

Cernovich is eliciting the broken arrow pretext of fascists: ‘they’ are going to come for me and do the most evil thing. Therefore, anything I do is justification, no matter how evil.

If the GOP loses big in 2024 (and that should be the case unless things suddenly turn around in their favor) there will be violence and even bloodshed.

I hate to sound all pessimistic about it but there are too many weapons and too many crazies and zealots, and there are too many people who should know better egging them all on.

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:11:33pm

I went to a yard sale farther from home than usual, mostly because I wanted to see the neighborhood. They sold me a Bridgestone MB 6 for $5. I could not even pause to think how far I had to walk two bikes home before handing her my money. I managed not to think about it until I got home. 2.8 miles. Felt like 5. I think. I haven’t walked 5 miles lately. But I rode a bike 2.8, and walked 2.8 with 2 bikes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:12:34pm

re: #60 DodgerFan1988

I don’t think Rufo had a mask to begin with.

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sagehen  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:12:42pm

re: #52 darthstar

Okay - Internet set up at the new house.

and we’re your first stop!! awww.

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BigPapa  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:14:33pm

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the GOP loses big in 2024 (and that should be the case unless things suddenly turn around in their favor) there will be violence.

I hate to sound all pessimistic about it but there are too many weapons and too many crazies and zealots, and there are too many people who should no better egging them all on.

I don’t think it’s a pessimistic outlook. More pragmatic. I expect more violence and prison either way. My best hope is the bad people do most of the bleeding and prison.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:15:15pm

re: #40 Backwoods Sleuth

Trump: Let’s execute Gen. Milley

Milley: Beware of the ‘wannabe dictator’

WSJ edit page: It’s “dispiriting to hear Gen. Milley’s remarks about a former President.”

“I didn’t do it and stop talking about my mother!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:16:46pm

re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

First polls after the “debate” shows Trump with a jump upwards, pretty much everyone else deflating.

And the betting odds for Trump winning the nomination jumped up too.

The shoe that needs to drop has to come from a judge’s foot.

Who would bet against Trump winning the nomination unless he dies?

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:18:29pm

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the GOP loses big in 2024 (and that should be the case unless things suddenly turn around in their favor) there will be violence.

I hate to sound all pessimistic about it but there are too many weapons and too many crazies and zealots, and there are too many people who should no better egging them all on.

Any time I start thinking those kinds of thoughts, and they don’t occur often because I am an optimist, I think about all the groups that have had to deal with violence to eat out tiny victories and put myself in perspective. I don’t allow the possibility that it might occur cloud over the need for change to happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:19:47pm

re: #69 Belafon

Any time I start thinking those kinds of thoughts, and they don’t occur often because I am an optimist, I think about all the groups that have had to deal with violence to eat out tiny victories and put myself in perspective. I don’t allow the possibility that it might occur cloud over the need for change to happen.

Whenever we mention the potential for such violence we get shouted down by the very people mostly likely to perpetrate it.

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:23:32pm

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whenever we mention the potential for such violence we get shouted down by the very people mostly likely to perpetrate it.

It seems to go against your nature to look at the bright side. Or comment on it.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:25:40pm

re: #36 silverdolphin

Last blooms of the year. Not a great year for reblooms. I think I need to fertilize more. But a great year anyway. Now onto transplanting those that need it into bigger pots.

[Embedded content]

Do you think that many of your varieties would thrive in Southeast Michigan?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:26:07pm

re: #44 Belafon

Which “Wannabe dictator is he talking about, WSJ?” Milley doesn’t mention a name.

Kind of like when Hillary Clinton in the primary said she believed one candidate was working with the Russians, and Tulsi Gabbard squealed (thereby outing herself).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:26:21pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

It seems to go against your nature to look at the bright side. Or comment on it.

How many mass shootings do we have in a “normal” week in America without calls for political violence blring fro all the Right Wing news sites and channels?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:26:50pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:26:53pm

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the GOP loses big in 2024 (and that should be the case unless things suddenly turn around in their favor) there will be violence and even bloodshed.

I hate to sound all pessimistic about it but there are too many weapons and too many crazies and zealots, and there are too many people who should know better egging them all on.

It’s only a pessimistic scenario if the right wing nut jobs win when they go violent. If they lose, every dead right wing nut job will be a step toward recovery.

I’m well aware that’s an absolutely brutal sentiment, but US politics is what it is, and the US right has already chosen violence and terrorism as a core part of its strategy.

Let them come.

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CleverToad  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:28:01pm

re: #36 silverdolphin

Last blooms of the year. Not a great year for reblooms. I think I need to fertilize more. But a great year anyway. Now onto transplanting those that need it into bigger pots.

[Embedded content]

Have been enjoying your lily garden so much at second hand, silverdolphin! Thank you for shared beauty.

Appreciate all the flowers and furry faces posted here at LGF, they’re bright spots in my day

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:29:22pm

re: #76 EPR-radar

It’s only a pessimistic scenario if the right wing nut jobs win when they go violent. If they lose, every dead right wing nut job will be a step toward recovery.

Even after Jan 6th, we are afraid to discuss the potential for RW terror and violence. And yet our press plays it down as it is fixated on “balance” - as if any Leftist has ever tried to storm the Capitol to overturn the results of a (free and fair) election.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:35:14pm

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even after Jan 6th, we are afraid to discuss the potential for RW terror and violence. And yet our press plays it down as it is fixated on “balance” - as if any Leftist has ever tried to storm the Capitol to overturn the results of a (free and fair) election.

The Press: “BLM Riots, The Knockout Game, Smash & Grab Lootings.”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:35:52pm

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #76 EPR-radar

There’s no need for speculation about the disproportionate CV19 deaths in Red-voting counties. The RW nutjobs have signed up for self-imposed biowar fatalities.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:38:44pm

Wait for the end…

A now-deceased Republican donor was reportedly involved in a fraudulent scheme to trade Taylor Swift tickets for sex acts and nude photos before he died.

Kent Stermon, who was found dead in December 2022 after purportedly committing suicide, had been facing charges of false imprisonment and solicitation for prostitution, according to News4JAX. He killed himself before he could be charged in the case.

The outlet reported that it “started with a series of social media messages and telephone calls between an unidentified young woman and Stermon in which Stermon claimed that he could get tickets and VIP access for her to a Taylor Swift’s ‘Eras’ tour concert in Tampa.”

“Investigators said Stermon set up a fake email account and pretended to be a backstage security staffer who was a gatekeeper for VIP access to the concert. Stermon, pretending to be the staffer, then coerced the woman, who he knew, into sending provocative photos of herself and answering a series of personal questions, according to the SAO,” News4JAX reported on Saturday. “While this was going on, Stermon was also talking to the young woman through his personal cell phone. He later told the woman to buy the concert tickets and said he would reimburse her, the investigation found, and then told her to come by his office to get the money for the tickets.”

When the woman showed up at Stermon’s office, he would not let her leave the room until she showed him her breasts, according to the woman.

“The woman said she eventually told her father what happened and he confronted Stermon before the two reported the incident to police on Nov. 29,” the outlet wrote. “Because investigators found Stermon used a fake Yahoo account to contact the woman, he also faced potential charges of unlawful use of a two-way communication device.”

Stermon is also identified in the news report as a “long-time friend to Gov. Ron DeSantis.”

news4jax.com

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:42:32pm

re: #77 CleverToad

Have been enjoying your lily garden so much at second hand, silverdolphin! Thank you for shared beauty.

Appreciate all the flowers and furry faces posted here at LGF, they’re bright spots in my day

Hi there.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:44:59pm

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even after Jan 6th, we are afraid to discuss the potential for RW terror and violence. And yet our press plays it down as it is fixated on “balance” - as if any Leftist has ever tried to storm the Capitol to overturn the results of a (free and fair) election.

“We” who? We talk about it here, and I know others are talking about it.

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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:45:38pm

re: #81 Joe Bacon ✅

I.e., a Republican Party Reptile doing Republican Party Reptile things.

A just god looking for one good person in the ranks of GOP state and Federal leadership as an excuse not to smite all of them would have a hard time finding one.

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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:46:28pm

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even after Jan 6th, we are afraid to discuss the potential for RW terror and violence. And yet our press plays it down as it is fixated on “balance” - as if any Leftist has ever tried to storm the Capitol to overturn the results of a (free and fair) election.

The press plays it down because they are almost entirely under enemy control.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:50:53pm

re: #3 Teukka

Assorted engineers: There’s a problem with launching in cold weather.

NASA management: We have to launch! Otherwise we’ll look incompetent and our funding will be cut.

(Shuttle explodes seconds into launch)

Assorted engineers: (Gives NASA management that look)

NASA management: Why didn’t you warn us?! This is all your fault!

Yeah, not what happened but I’m sure a lot of people worked really, really hard to avoid responsibility for this disaster.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:54:47pm

re: #81 Joe Bacon ✅

Even Republicans like (to use) Taylor Swift.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 30, 2023 • 3:57:57pm

re: #83 Belafon

“We” who? We talk about it here, and I know others are talking about it.

should have been more clear: our media and even our politicians have been afraid to discuss the potential of RW violence

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:00:58pm
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Romantic Heretic  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:02:42pm

re: #28 BigPapa

Cernovich is eliciting the broken arrow pretext of fascists: ‘they’ are going to come for me and do the most evil thing. Therefore, anything I do is justification, no matter how evil.

Yeah. Too many people follow a belief system not to become better people but so they can be dicks to other human beings.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:05:13pm

re: #84 EPR-radar

I.e., a Republican Party Reptile doing Republican Party Reptile things.

A just god looking for one good person in the ranks of GOP state and Federal leadership as an excuse not to smite all of them would have a hard time finding one.

Not according to thousands of right wing Xtian Pulpit Pimps all over the country who preach that Trump is Gawd’s Anointed King.

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:05:49pm

re: #90 Romantic Heretic

Yeah. Too many people follow a belief system not to become better people but so they can be dicks to other human beings.

We call it ‘privilege’. They call it ‘inherent superiority’.

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A Cranky One  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:08:20pm

🎶Bass-y shark doo doo doo doo bass-y shark🎵

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Captain Magic  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:13:44pm

re: #3 Teukka

Speaking of difficult, what the hell is going on in Sweden where they need to call in the military to deal with the gang violence? Or am I missing something?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:16:55pm

re: #94 Captain Magic

From the Reuters article I read, it sounds like the local police in Sweden really are more like peace officers and not the para-military forces that American police tend to be.

For example, the article mentions bombs. Something for which a typical large US city police force has prepared, but apparently not so in Europe.

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JC1  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:18:14pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

I was 4 years old at the time of the Challenger disaster and have no memory of it.

I do vividly remember Columbia though.

I remember the Challenger. I was 11. I think that it was a snow day in CT; no school.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:22:46pm
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CleverToad  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:27:58pm

re: #82 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Hi there.

[Embedded content]

Awww! Waves back

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:28:49pm

re: #86 Romantic Heretic

Assorted engineers: There’s a problem with launching in cold weather.

NASA management: We have to launch! Otherwise we’ll look incompetent and our funding will be cut.

(Shuttle explodes seconds into launch)

Assorted engineers: (Gives NASA management that look)

NASA management: Why didn’t you warn us?! This is all your fault!

Yeah, not what happened but I’m sure a lot of people worked really, really hard to avoid responsibility for this disaster.

According to the Miami Herald reporting, Thiokol booster engineers questioned the ability of the booster seals to function properly due to the overnight freezing temperatures and recommended postponing the launch until the seals reached a higher ambient temperature.

Due to turnaround time, this decision would have delayed the launch for a period past Reagan’s desired PR window.  . .

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:29:32pm
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JC1  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:29:50pm

re: #86 Romantic Heretic

Assorted engineers: There’s a problem with launching in cold weather.

NASA management: We have to launch! Otherwise we’ll look incompetent and our funding will be cut.

(Shuttle explodes seconds into launch)

Assorted engineers: (Gives NASA management that look)

NASA management: Why didn’t you warn us?! This is all your fault!

Yeah, not what happened but I’m sure a lot of people worked really, really hard to avoid responsibility for this disaster.

The leadup to the Challenger explosion was one of the case studies in my operations management class in grad school on the dangers of group think.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:29:51pm

re: #99 BeenHereAwhile

Just one of many fuck-ups Pruneface Reagan caused.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:32:14pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

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Suddenly they give a shit about “law and order.”

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Teukka  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:33:31pm

re: #103 Barefoot Grin

Suddenly they give a shit about “law and order.”

“Lawn order”…

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:34:01pm

re: #103 Barefoot Grin

Suddenly they give a shit about “law and order.”

Why do I have the feeling Greenwald would defend Paul Gosar if he did that?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:35:06pm

re: #105 Joe Bacon ✅

Why do I have the feeling Greenwald would defend Paul Gosar if he did that?

There is no doubt. Matthew Hale.

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sizzzzlerz  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:37:17pm

re: #103 Barefoot Grin

Suddenly they give a shit about “law and order.”

If the guy did what they said, he needs to be slapped down hard. But to highlight that as a means of delaying a legitimate governmental act while completely ignoring, if not denying, the actions of 1/6 is simply another act of supreme hypocrisy of which the GOQ is so accomplished.

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Unabogie  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:40:47pm

re: #82 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Hi there.

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That’s a face that’s seen some shit go DOWN.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:41:29pm

re: #81 Joe Bacon ✅

Another day, another Republican pervert.

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sizzzzlerz  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:41:54pm

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who would bet against Trump winning the nomination unless he dies?

I wouldn’t bet against that even if he does die. These people have extremely odd ideas regarding dead political figures.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:41:54pm

re: #107 sizzzzlerz

If the guy did what they said, he needs to be slapped down hard. But to highlight that as a means of delaying a legitimate governmental act while completely ignoring, if not denying, the actions of 1/6 is simply another act of supreme hypocrisy of which the GOQ is so accomplished.

I don’t doubt that he’ll face sanctions. He should. Also agree with the rest of your post.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:42:54pm

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who would bet against Trump winning the nomination unless he dies?

There are brainwashed people stupid enough to believe Trump would rise from the dead in 3 days…

113
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:44:19pm

Well, I just had an interesting discussion over at BlueSky with one of the lefties who blame the Democratic Party for everything; this was over the debt-ceiling limit. The claim is Democrats want the debt ceiling for (reasons).

After I corrected them on the makeup of the Senate at the start of 2021 (the Democrats did not control it) and the history of why the debt ceiling limits exist (and the fact every time the Democrats try to eliminate it, it’s blocked by the GOP), I got a block.

Fancy that.

114
Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:48:39pm

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, I just had an interesting discussion over at BlueSky with one of the lefties who blame the Democratic Party for everything; this was over the debt-ceiling limit. The claim is Democrats want the debt ceiling for (reasons).

After I corrected them on the makeup of the Senate at the start of 2021 (the Democrats did not control it) and the history of why the debt ceiling limits exist (and the fact every time the Democrats try to eliminate it, it’s blocked by the GOP), I got a block.

Fancy that.

Sounds like a someone in the LA DSA who now supports Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs RFK Jr or Cornholio West.

115
DodgerFan1988  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:49:40pm

re: #81 Joe Bacon ✅

“But it’s the transgenders who are grooming young people.”

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:51:21pm

re: #114 Joe Bacon ✅

Sounds like a someone in the LA DSA who now supports Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs RFK Jr or Cornholio West.

There’s a small but aggressive group at Bluesky who believe that the only obstacle to overcoming the fascists is to get rid of the Democratic party.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 30, 2023 • 4:53:55pm

re: #110 sizzzzlerz

I wouldn’t bet against that even if he does die. These people have extremely odd ideas regarding dead political figures.

The GOP elected a dead pimp in a Nevada primary.

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gwangung  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:02:29pm

re: #116 Barefoot Grin

There’s a small but aggressive group at Bluesky who believe that the only obstacle to overcoming the fascists is to get rid of the Democratic party.

Those idiots would get totally steam rollered by the conservatives (and let’s not even think about the really reactionary twits).

119
wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:03:17pm

I think this is his best-looking bike, but I hope he doesn’t ride it there.

Mastodon

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Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:03:50pm

It must be Sunday. The gang all Wordled before noon.

Positively pedestrian word after yesterday’s performance.

Wordle 834 4/6

⬜⬜🟨🟩🟨
⬜🟨🟩🟩⬜
🟨⬜🟩🟩🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SibData: 3,4,4,4,4

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:08:59pm

re: #118 gwangung

Those idiots would get totally steam rollered by the conservatives (and let’s not even think about the really reactionary twits).

And I guarantee you that if you got two of them in a room and asked then to come up with a plan, at most one of them would walk out.

122
Teukka  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:10:16pm

Say what you will about Thunderf00t in general, but his take on the Elongated one… The Myth of Elon Musk: Busted

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:15:44pm

Here is a Bluesky entry pass. In a couple of days, I’ll throw it into the scientists’ pool.

bsky-social-pfd7p-tbniy

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:32:37pm

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, I just had an interesting discussion over at BlueSky with one of the lefties who blame the Democratic Party for everything; this was over the debt-ceiling limit. The claim is Democrats want the debt ceiling for (reasons).

After I corrected them on the makeup of the Senate at the start of 2021 (the Democrats did not control it) and the history of why the debt ceiling limits exist (and the fact every time the Democrats try to eliminate it, it’s blocked by the GOP), I got a block.

Fancy that.

My favorite question to those folk predisposed to block:

I need a little guidance. Are you trying to be offensive or merely stupid?

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:34:34pm

re: #116 Barefoot Grin

There’s a small but aggressive group at Bluesky who believe that the only obstacle to overcoming the fascists is to get rid of the Democratic party.

AKA useful idiots.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:37:29pm

re: #116 Barefoot Grin

There’s a small but aggressive group at Bluesky who believe that the only obstacle to overcoming the fascists is to get rid of the Democratic party.

Because they think Democrats ARE the fascists.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:37:42pm

re: #125 BeenHereAwhile

AKA useful idiots.

Projection has become its own industry.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:43:20pm

re: #125 BeenHereAwhile

AKA useful idiots.

Or shit stirrers.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:52:55pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:57:05pm

re: #130 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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That’s good, because Congress will be much smarter in 45 days.

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Nerdy Fish  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:57:46pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

That’s good, because Congress will be much smarter in 45 days.

How? Is Margarine Tater-Greens getting expelled?///

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2023 • 5:59:04pm

re: #130 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

That’s the one that includes no Ukraine aid, right?

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Nerdy Fish  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:00:15pm

re: #133 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s the one that includes no Ukraine aid, right?

Correct.

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Captain Ron  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:02:39pm

re: #130 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

It passed and goes to The White House.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:04:03pm

re: #135 Captain Ron

Will Joe sign it tonight or tomorrow?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:04:41pm

Reprogramming Funds: Understanding the Appropriators’ Perspective

On paper, the appropriations process isn’t complicated; in actual practice, complications seem to increase each year. In the days of doing more with less, it is a highly competitive process. Appropriators are charged with divvying up a little over $1.0 trillion in scarce taxpayer dollars - and they take the job seriously. $1.0 trillion is a lot of money, but when you start splitting it among 12 subcommittees, it goes fast.

gai.georgetown.edu

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:04:46pm

re: #135 Captain Ron

It passed and goes to The White House.

Well, it would have been nice to do it without fucking over one of our allies, but yay I guess?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:07:14pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:10:06pm

I can breathe a sigh of relief that I don’t have to cash one of my Savings bonds or T-Bills.

BUT I’m pissed that the GOP stripped help for Ukraine out of this.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:13:29pm

We make money every time we get someone to fire an obsolescent weapon for us.

The current demil stockpile is estimated at almost 480,000 short tons of conventional ammunition and more than 300,000 missiles and missile components. At an approximate cost of 1,800 per ton to demil this stockpile with future additions or generations, the demil liability to DOD is almost 2 billion through the current budget and program years. At the current funding level, the stockpile, instead of getting smaller, continues to grow.

apps.dtic.mil

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:17:13pm

Oh No He Didn’t…Oh Yes He Did!

abc7.com

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:17:56pm

Been there. In a manner of speaking.

Mastodon

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jaunte  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:24:35pm

Mastodon

That wasn’t a fire alarm, it was a poison alarm.

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silverdolphin  Sep 30, 2023 • 6:44:26pm

re: #72 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Do you think that many of your varieties would thrive in Southeast Michigan?

They are very hardy. The easiest thoing to do is check the local Daylily club (there are ones in each region) to get an idea. The ones to look for are the dormant varieties. I thinkmost of these make it through almost any winter, especially with a little compost on top.


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