The Bob Cesca Podcast: Silly Sunday

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Silly Sunday — Big announcement about the December After Party episodes. Buzz poisoned all of his Thanksgiving guests. Americans spent billions on Black Friday despite the allegedly bad economy. We debate how best to convince voters about the success of the Biden economy and what to expect if the Republicans win. Trump threatened to try and repeal the ACA again. ABC News reports that Mike Pence considered not attending the January 6 voter certification. Pence is gigantic wimp. Trump retcons his Biden/Obama gaffes. What Trump really thinks of evangelicals. Bad news for Derek Chauvin and Elon Musk. With Buzz Burbank, music by Heather Lynne Horton, Keturah Allgood, and more!

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A Cranky One  Nov 28, 2023 • 1:41:48pm

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A Cranky One  Nov 28, 2023 • 1:47:52pm

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2023 • 1:50:29pm

re: #2 A Cranky One

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…and…

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2023 • 1:52:55pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Pizzagate is a perfect example of a conspiracy theory that is impervious to facts, reality, or even simple fucking common sense. It’s a nightmarish eruption from the degraded, perverse right wing id, and debunking cannot stop it.

Like Birtherism, Pizzagate never went away. It’s been circulating in the right wing sewers of the internet for years.

Donald Trump, the conman president, used the Birther conspiracy theory to build his political support, long after most of the media had proclaimed it defunct.

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Captain Magic  Nov 28, 2023 • 1:53:46pm

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2023 • 1:53:46pm

re: #101 Patricia Kayden

I believe my dog is suffering from that mystery virus. She’s on antibiotics but still has a rattling cough. Huge sigh.

Bummer, Patricia: hope pupper is OK….

Very weird, though: that list of states reporting the canine respiratory issue is (literally) all over the map. One would think it might be more geographically-centered.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2023 • 1:55:19pm

re: #6 Jay C

Bummer, Patricia: hope pupper is OK….

Very weird, though: that list of states reporting the canine respiratory issue is (literally) all over the map. One would think it might be more geographically-centered.

Snowbirds

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2023 • 1:56:49pm

re: #107 Dangerman

there’s a word for this situation
it’s one of my favorite two words
and it’s not spatchcock
it’s zugzwang

Oooh, I found a new favorite word myself!

But yeah, we know the GQP are not self-aware enough to realize that Lowell has boxed them in. Come Dec 13th, they’ll call a presser to announce that Hunter has “refused” to comply with the subpoena and now they have “no choice” but to hold a contempt vote, leading to lurid fantasies by Faux and MAGAts alike about Hunter being drug in by the Sergeant-at-Arms and jailed until he agrees to sit for the deposition.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2023 • 1:58:03pm

re: #5 Captain Magic

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2023 • 1:59:59pm

re: #3 Dangerman

…and not to blow dry your hair in the shower
…and not to stand your ladder in shit
…and not to take the drug if you’re allergic to it
…and…

The sort of people who returned cans of salmon during a salmonella outbreak.

The sort of people for whom the Phone Company was also listed in the Yellow Pages under “Fone Company: see Phone Company”

The sort of people who thought a 1/3 pounder contained less meat than a 1/4 pounder…

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Backwoods Sleuth  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:00:51pm

re: #6 Jay C

Bummer, Patricia: hope pupper is OK….

Very weird, though: that list of states reporting the canine respiratory issue is (literally) all over the map. One would think it might be more geographically-centered.

I remember when parvo first appeared, it started to spread via dog shows in the mid-70s in the US, Australia and Europe.

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A Cranky One  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:02:51pm
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Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:11:12pm

re: #5 Captain Magic

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Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:12:15pm

re: #6 Jay C

Bummer, Patricia: hope pupper is OK….

Very weird, though: that list of states reporting the canine respiratory issue is (literally) all over the map. One would think it might be more geographically-centered.

What brand of dog food are they eating?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:13:19pm

re: #14 Vicious Babushka

What brand of dog food are they eating?

Were those dogs vaccinated against Canine Covid?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:13:33pm

@PatriciaKayden I just got this in email. FYI

dogfoodadvisor.com

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:27:52pm

Tamara Sytch’s wikipedia page is already up to date:

Tamara Lynn Sytch (born December 7, 1972), commonly known by her ring name Sunny, is an American convicted felon, former professional wrestling manager, …Tamara Lynn S

en.wikipedia.org

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:28:41pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:30:20pm

re: #16 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Thanks. Neither of the vets I’ve visited mentioned a kennel cough vaccination. Going to ask about that tomorrow.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:33:13pm

Ah Wonkette once again has a way with words!

Mike Pence Testimony To Jack Smith Is The Stupidest Damned Hallmark Christmas Movie Ever

He needs you to know he was a very good boy.

wonkette.com

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:45:57pm

Tempted to reply… :D

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:49:20pm

NOWHERE IS SAFE WHEN THIS OCTOPUS IS AROUND

Extraordinary Octopus Takes To Land | 4K UHD | The Hunt | BBC Earth

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2023 • 2:52:19pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

NOWHERE IS SAFE WHEN THIS OCTOPUS IS AROUND

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Video

Snektopus.

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Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:02:02pm

I am just gonna drop this here as a PSA.

Mastodon

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:08:26pm

Mastodon

From there:

Nevertheless, the underlying mechanisms remain unclear.

In the present study, researchers examined the effectiveness of coffee against SARS-CoV-2. They used a SARS-CoV-2 pseudovirus assay to assess the effects of coffee on viral entry in a human embryonic kidney cell line (293T) expressing angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2). Ground coffee (6 mg/ml) showed a dose-dependent reduction in viral entry. Next, they tested the effects of several commercial instant coffee products.

Instant coffee products (1 mg/ml) consistently inhibited the entry of wild-type SARS-CoV-2 and variants (Alpha, Delta, and Omicron). Next, the team evaluated how additives in coffee, such as cream, low fat, milk, and sugar, affect its potency. This showed that additives had no impact on the inhibitory effects of coffee. The researchers performed an enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) and observed that ground and instant coffee interrupted spike-ACE2 interactions.

There’s magic in coffee. Doesn’t show up in their assays.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:30:55pm
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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:33:23pm

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

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He looked less nuts when he could still manage to remove his teenager facial hair. He probably was less nuts then.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:34:03pm

re: #20 Joe Bacon ✅

Ah Wonkette once again has a way with words!

Mike Pence Testimony To Jack Smith Is The Stupidest Damned Hallmark Christmas Movie Ever

He needs you to know he was a very good boy.

wonkette.com

Self-serving bilge is what it is. Mike knew the plan, he knew what Trump intended to do, and I don’t buy for a second that some patriotic talk from his son gave him a sudden attack of conscience. All that really changed was the realization that if he suddenly bowed out of officiating the EC certification, a lot of uncomfortable questions would be asked that he had no innocent answers for.

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:34:24pm

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

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Wait? Isn’t that woman on the left Epstein’s Procurer?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:38:00pm

re: #17 Belafon

Wrestling fans are notorious for making exhaustive entries on Wikipedia. Even the most marginal of wrestlers can get multi-page bios.

It’s an interesting phenomenon. Fans of other genres don’t tend to do that. Some sports fans do.

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piratedan  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:41:29pm

re: #29 austin_blue

yup, got it in one…. :-)

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Captain Ron  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:45:44pm
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jaunte  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:54:34pm

@faineg.bsky.social

This painting of a slug by 18th century Japanese painter Nagasawa Rosetsu is my very favorite thing today

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:56:52pm

re: #33 jaunte

Creative slug.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2023 • 3:57:43pm

re: #34 PhillyPretzel ✅

It looks like a map of my daily chores.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:06:36pm

I don’t like the sound of any of these outlets. They want me to watch ads. Fubo might be ad-free, but I have no use for a sports streaming service.

Discontinued will be available on several platforms, including Fubo, Amazon Freevee, LG Channels, Plex, Sling Freestream, Tubi, VIDAA, VIZIO Watchfree+, and Xumo Play.

DISCONTINUED | Official Trailer

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:08:18pm

re: #33 jaunte

@faineg.bsky.social

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Of, for, and by a slug.

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:08:34pm

I think Bibi’s propaganda machine has fucked up by accentuating the 10-month old baby, Kfir Bibas. That poor child, his brother, mother, and father are now symbols. They have become icons, which insures that Hamas will probably hold on to that child as a human shield until the bitter end, and reminding the World that the IDF, on Bibi’s orders, has, so far, killed around 6,800 children under the age of 18, or 400 for each year since birth, crushed, mutilated, burned, or blown to pieces. That’s 400 Kfir’s for each year from 0 to 17.

They are dead and will never be returned be to their families alive. These are not Hamas numbers. These are now UN numbers.

Fuck Bibi. And fuck everyone in his radical right-wing government who have supported this thirty year-old ongoing disaster.

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EPR-radar  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:14:00pm

re: #38 austin_blue

I think Bibi’s propaganda machine has fucked up by accentuating the 10-month old baby, Kfir Bibas. That poor child, his brother, mother, and father are now symbols. They have become icons, which insures that Hamas will probably hold on to that child as a human shield until the bitter end, and reminding the World that the IDF, on Bibi’s orders, has, so far, killed around 6,800 children under the age of 18, or 400 for each year since birth, crushed, mutilated, burned, or blown to pieces. That’s 400 Kfir’s for each year from 0 to 17.

They are dead and will never be returned be to their families alive. These are not Hamas numbers. These are now UN numbers.

Fuck Bibi. And fuck everyone in his radical right-wing government who have supported this thirty year-old ongoing disaster.

Why are you assuming this is a fuckup by Bibi, instead of it proceeding exactly as he wants? To be bluntly cynical, the only use the baby has for Bibi’s propaganda is it if remains a hostage.

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:15:42pm

re: #32 Captain Ron

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He seems nice.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:17:06pm

Dolly Parton’s album, Rock Star, has topped the country, rock, and alternative charts. She did it so that, being entered in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, she would have something rock related.

rollingstone.com

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:18:54pm

re: #41 Belafon

Way to go Dolly.

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:20:39pm

re: #39 EPR-radar

Why are you assuming this is a fuckup by Bibi, instead of it proceeding exactly as he wants? To be bluntly cynical, the only use the baby has for Bibi’s propaganda is it if remains a hostage.

Because I really want to believe that religious people are honestly misguided and not that murderously cynical.

If I am wrong, we are, world-wide, in very deep shit.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:23:39pm

re: #38 austin_blue

I think Bibi’s propaganda machine has fucked up by accentuating the 10-month old baby, Kfir Bibas. That poor child, his brother, mother, and father are now symbols. They have become icons, which insures that Hamas will probably hold on to that child as a human shield until the bitter end, and reminding the World that the IDF, on Bibi’s orders, has, so far, killed around 6,800 children under the age of 18, or 400 for each year since birth, crushed, mutilated, burned, or blown to pieces. That’s 400 Kfir’s for each year from 0 to 17.

They are dead and will never be returned be to their families alive. These are not Hamas numbers. These are now UN numbers.

Fuck Bibi. And fuck everyone in his radical right-wing government who have supported this thirty year-old ongoing disaster.

as I’ve seen it, the big mistake was portraying that baby as being held hostage all by himself, which I saw all over the place for many days. But the first mention I saw of him included the huge fact that it was his entire family taken hostage together.

But that didn’t pull heart strings as much as implying he was being held hostage all by himself and letting people’s imaginations run wild as to what happened to his family.

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:25:53pm

re: #44 Backwoods Sleuth

as I’ve seen it, the big mistake was portraying that baby as being held hostage all by himself, which I saw all over the place for many days. But the first mention I saw of him included the huge fact that it was his entire family taken hostage together.

But that didn’t pull heart strings as much as implying he was being held hostage all by himself and letting people’s imaginations run wild as to what happened to his family.

Agreed, hence the “propaganda machine” bit. It is, and it has been pushed by Bibi’s junta.

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EPR-radar  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:30:05pm

re: #44 Backwoods Sleuth

as I’ve seen it, the big mistake was portraying that baby as being held hostage all by himself, which I saw all over the place for many days. But the first mention I saw of him included the huge fact that it was his entire family taken hostage together.

But that didn’t pull heart strings as much as implying he was being held hostage all by himself and letting people’s imaginations run wild as to what happened to his family.

Again, why is this a mistake? It looks like mission accomplished to me, given the notorious effectiveness of first impressions vs later corrections.

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:42:30pm

re: #46 EPR-radar

Again, why is this a mistake? It looks like mission accomplished to me, given the notorious effectiveness of first impressions vs later corrections.

They oversold it. They jumped the shark. First impressions are rather ephemeral.

Now, understand, I get what you are saying. The great unwashed will believe the spin until they are forced to face the truth.

With certain MAGAts excepted, however, nobody wants to believe, after the fact, that they LOVED the taste of that shit sandwich.

On an international level, no one will ever believe a single word that passes Bibi’s lips when they are moving, ever again.

He’s a dead PM walking.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:46:44pm

re: #47 austin_blue

They oversold it. They jumped the shark. First impressions are rather ephemeral.

Now, understand, I get what you are saying. The great unwashed will believe the spin until they are forced to face the truth.

With certain MAGAts excepted, however, nobody wants to believe, after the fact, that they LOVED the taste of that shit sandwich.

On an international level, no one will ever believe a single word that passes Bibi lips when they are moving, ever again.

He’s a dead PM walking.

And they also neglected the fact that many of us saw the first reports that the entire family was taken hostage.
Later massive reports and repostings of only the baby did the job they hoped.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:48:23pm

re: #47 austin_blue

They oversold it. They jumped the shark. First impressions are rather ephemeral.

Now, understand, I get what you are saying. The great unwashed will believe the spin until they are forced to face the truth.

With certain MAGAts excepted, however, nobody wants to believe, after the fact, that they LOVED the taste of that shit sandwich.

On an international level, no one will ever believe a single word that passes Bibi’s lips when they are moving, ever again.

He’s a dead PM walking.

A really good Josh Marshall editor post yesterday.

But in a very real way that’s not what’s actually happening over there. This is a permutation of that conflict happening within the US, both literally and figuratively. It’s an argument among spectators. Certainly some people on both sides have personal connections to the conflict or ideological ones. But it’s still mostly an argument among spectators. And I certainly include myself in that as much as anyone else.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:50:29pm

re: #48 Backwoods Sleuth

And they also neglected the fact that many of us saw the first reports that the entire family was taken hostage.
Later massive reports and repostings of only the baby did the job they hoped.

and this is just horrible because it shouldn’t matter if it was just the baby or his entire family.

None of this shit should have happened in the first place and scoring political points off of any of it is wretched.

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2023 • 4:50:47pm

re: #43 austin_blue

Because I really want to believe that religious people are honestly misguided and not that murderously cynical.

If I am wrong, we are, world-wide, in very deep shit.

Netanyahu is not religious, never has been. He uses the religious factions for his own political ambitions, but he doesn’t even keep kosher or observe the Sabbath.

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:00:36pm

re: #48 Backwoods Sleuth

And they also neglected the fact that many of us saw the first reports that the entire family was taken hostage.
Later massive reports and repostings of only the baby did the job they hoped.

Exactly! Hence the bullshit spin:

“Oh, it’s a poor stolen baby!”

(Ignore the fact that we have blown around 400 babies under a year old into tiny bits, in God’s mercy, I want you to concentrate on This Child! Concentrate!)

It’s a mugs game.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:04:11pm

Mastodon

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:04:48pm

re: #51 sagehen

Netanyahu is not religious, never has been. He uses the religious factions for his own political ambitions, but he doesn’t even keep kosher or observe the Sabbath.

Of course he isn’t. He’s a fraud.

The best of the Netanyahu family died at Entebbe. Bibi has been playing catch-up ever since. He’ll never do it. He will always be a failure as a soldier and a patriot.

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:11:40pm
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BlueSpotinAL ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:16:19pm

Invading the Gaza Strip will not destroy Hamas. What needs to be done is keep the focus on the fact that Hamas discredited themselves (and ALL other groups which have similar core beliefs that includes eliminating Jews in any sense whatsoever). Hamas saw an opportunity to commit murder, torture, rape and kidnapping - they did not change their minds on Oct 7, 2023.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:28:38pm

Arthur Pam, Mark Hamill’s character from the Fall of the House of Usher, is Pint Size Rudy grown up (Bob’s Burgers).

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:28:52pm

Right now there are plenty of right wing Xtians cheering that the National Christmas Tree was knocked over and they’re stupid enough to believe that’s The Big G sending a message for Trump.

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:30:02pm

I finished Gen V…as soon as I saw Homelander I knew it wouldn’t end well for the kids.

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:32:34pm

re: #54 austin_blue

Of course he isn’t. He’s a fraud.

The best of the Netanyahu family died at Entebbe. Bibi has been playing catch-up ever since. He’ll never do it. He will always be a failure as a soldier and a patriot.

Oops, Context:

On 27 June 1976, Air France Flight 139, an Airbus A300B4-203, registration F-BVGG (c/n 019), departed from Tel Aviv, Israel, carrying 246 mainly Jewish and Israeli passengers and a crew of 12.[24][25] The plane flew to Athens, Greece, where it picked up an additional 58 passengers, including four hijackers.[26][nb 1] It departed for Paris at 12:30 pm. Just after takeoff, the flight was hijacked by two Palestinians from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - External Operations (PFLP-EO), and by two Germans, Wilfried Böse and Brigitte Kuhlmann, from the German Revolutionary Cells. The hijackers diverted the flight to Benghazi, Libya.[27] There it was held on the ground for seven hours for refuelling. During that time the hijackers released British-born Israeli citizen Patricia Martell, who pretended to have a miscarriage.[19][28] The plane left Benghazi and at 3:15 pm on the 28th, more than 24 hours after the flight’s original departure, it arrived at Entebbe Airport in Uganda.[27]

Hostage rescue

The Israelis left their vehicles and ran towards the terminal. The hostages were in the main hall of the airport building, directly adjacent to the runway. Entering the terminal, the commandos shouted through a megaphone, “Stay down! Stay down! We are Israeli soldiers,” in both Hebrew and English. Jean-Jacques Maimoni, a 19-year-old French immigrant to Israel, stood up and was killed when Muki Betser and another soldier mistook him for a hijacker and fired at him.[27] Another hostage, Pasco Cohen, 52, was also fatally wounded by gunfire from the commandos.[72] In addition, a third hostage, 56-year-old Ida Borochovitch, a Russian Jew who had emigrated to Israel, was killed by a hijacker in the crossfire.[73]

According to hostage Ilan Hartuv, Wilfried Böse was the only hijacker who, after the operation began, entered the hall housing the hostages. At first he pointed his Kalashnikov rifle at hostages, but “immediately came to his senses” and ordered them to find shelter in the restroom, before being killed by the commandos. According to Hartuv, Böse fired only at Israeli soldiers and not at hostages.[8]

At one point, an Israeli commando called out in Hebrew, “Where are the rest of them?” referring to the hijackers.[74] The hostages pointed to a connecting door of the airport’s main hall, into which the commandos threw several hand grenades. They then entered the room and shot dead the three remaining hijackers, ending the assault.[26] Meanwhile, the other three C-130 Hercules aeroplanes had landed and unloaded armoured personnel carriers to provide defence during the anticipated hour of refuelling. The Israelis then destroyed Ugandan MiG fighter planes to prevent them from pursuing, and conducted a sweep of the airfield to gather intelligence.[26]

After the raid, the Israeli assault team returned to their aircraft and began loading the hostages. Ugandan soldiers shot at them in the process. The Israeli commandos returned fire, inflicting casualties on the Ugandans. During this brief but intense firefight, Ugandan soldiers fired from the airport control tower. At least five commandos were wounded, and the Israeli unit commander Yonatan Netanyahu was killed.

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:37:20pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:42:45pm

So when will George Santos show up on Dancing With The Stars?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:48:48pm

Kyle Rittenhouse Is a Sniveling Crybaby Without His Gun

He picked a fight with me on Twitter over an innocuous post, then acted is if being told to “f**k off” was political warfare.

Kyle Rittenhouse acted like a real tough guy when he was strolling the streets of Kenosha, Wisconsin in August 2020 with a semi-automatic rifle in his hands. Back then, he was a 17-year-old who (in his telling) was just protecting businesses from protestors at the shooty end of the barrel of an AR-15.

But when confronted with an expletive on a social media platform, suddenly he’s a poor widdle boy who shrinks from a mean, mean lady that uses scary words that start with the letter F.

Believe me when I tell you that the last thing I want to be writing about right now is Kyle fucking Rittenhouse. I wish I didn’t know his name. I wish none of us knew his name.

I wish he was just some anonymous, gun-fetishizing 20-year-old high school dropout. Alas, that was not our collective good fortune. Instead, we got Kyle, the self-styled “good guy with a gun,” who was hailed a “hero” by the Right after he shot three men, two of them fatally, on that dark Wisconsin night.

And he is anything but content living a life of anonymity, which I (rather unexpectedly) experienced first-hand.

Last Saturday, finally home after a long drive from visiting relatives over Thanksgiving weekend, I poured myself a big glass of wine, let out a deep sigh, kicked my feet up, and opened up the X app (which I still call “Twitter”).

Instantly, I noticed my notifications were blowing up on something I had posted days before—which was my own spin on a trend where users described something about themselves and then stated that we were voting Biden/Harris in 2024.

Not particularly unusual for me. Not especially divisive.

And yet, there it was, at the top of the replies, like an eight-year-old teasing a classmate he secretly thinks is pretty—a one-word reply to my tweet.

“Gross,” tweeted Kyle Rittenhouse.

But why? I don’t post about him anymore. So why out of the blue would this punk jump on my tweet about Biden with such petulant, adolescent nonsense?

And then it hit me, he’d been trending for days. Days earlier, he announced he was releasing a book, his “story of survival, resilience, and justice.” I’ve got almost a million followers, and for the most part, they’re not likely his target audience.

I don’t know it for sure, but my guess: He was trying to piggyback on my engagement.

Trolls do this shit all the time, as do fading culture war figures that are no longer front page news nor regular Fox News guests.

thedailybeast.com

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:51:41pm

Someone should have told Melania it was a celebration for a children’s daycare opening so she would have remembered to dress in black like everyone else.

Mastodon

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:57:14pm

Pope Francis Punishes Cardinal Raymond Burke, One of His Most Outspoken Critics

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving asshole.

Pope Francis has taken away a subsidized Vatican apartment and salary from Cardinal Raymond Burke, a prominent critic who has frequently criticized the reform-minded pope’s policies, two sources told the Associated Press. Francis reportedly met with church leaders last week to inform them of his decision, explaining that Burke fostered “disunity” in the church and was using his privileges to undermine the institution. Burke had not been alerted to his disciplining on Tuesday morning, according to his secretary. AP reported that Burke, who is considered by many to be the head of Francis’ conservative opposition, argued against an October assembly to talk about making the Catholic Church more inclusive toward LGBTQ+ followers and granting women and non-priests more opportunities. In 2014, Francis fired Burke from the Congregation of Bishops, which the cardinal said was due to his decision to talk “too much about abortion” and about “marriage as between one man and one woman.”

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 5:58:38pm

By the way, have I been “anti-semitic” in these posts today?

I’ve always thought it was a tough argument when discussing Israel and the Jews and the Palestinians (aka Phoenicians, back in the day [way back in the day]).

Both groups, really, were Semites. The Jews left the Levant to go to Egypt. That didn’t work out very well, so they became Red Sea pedestrians to return (eventually!) to the Levant where they fought the Phoenicians for Judea and Sumeria, and established a Jewish Kingdom.

They didn’t keep it very long, and ended up forcibly being sent to Babylonia (how many Jews were there at that point? 20,000? How does a group of people survive intact during a 1,000 mile displacement, on foot?)

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:08:41pm

Flickr

I’m adding a new perspective to my action photos - POV. I’ve been thinking about this for a while and finally pulled the trigger on a new GoPro camera. This photo is from my first real session with the camera - following my friend Phil on a trail above Devil’s Slide in Pacifica, California. Tomorrow I’ll give it a shot on my skis. There’s a bit of a learning curve, figuring out the best camera position and settings. But I’m pretty pleased with this photo for a start. The quality might not match what I get from my full-frame mirrorless camera but the dynamic POV perspective more than makes up for the quality compromise.

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Dizzy  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:22:30pm

re: #66 austin_blue

By the way, have I been “anti-semitic” in these posts today?

I’m not sure what the point of your post is. I’ve never read you as being anti-semitic, but there’s an old quote: “If you have to ask…”

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:22:31pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

I love it, even if it sets off my fear of heights just a bit.

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:29:41pm

re: #68 Dizzy

I’m not sure what the point of your post is. I’ve never read you as being anti-semitic, but there’s an old quote: “If you have to ask…”

I really wasn’t asking, I was just stating facts.

Some folks think stating facts make you “Anti- XXX”.

It’s all performative bulkshit.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:32:42pm

re: #65 Joe Bacon ✅

In prior centuries - for dissing the Pope - Cardinal Burke might have found himself demoted to Abbot of the monastery on top of Mt. Aconcagua; (assuming he wasn’t slated as the main roast at an auto-da-fe): losing his Vatican digs (unlikely to be very “monastic”) is getting away cheap…

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:34:26pm

re: #54 austin_blue

Of course he isn’t. He’s a fraud.

The best of the Netanyahu family died at Entebbe. Bibi has been playing catch-up ever since. He’ll never do it. He will always be a failure as a soldier and a patriot.

To succeed he’d have to risk his own precious hide. Which is not going to do under any circumstances.

He’d join Hamas if he thought it would let him keep or expand his power.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:35:48pm

re: #54 austin_blue

Of course he isn’t. He’s a fraud.

The best of the Netanyahu family died at Entebbe. Bibi has been playing catch-up ever since. He’ll never do it. He will always be a failure as a soldier and a patriot.

Bibi is a terrible person doing untold damage to Israel. As I’ve said repeatedly, I’ve hated him for almost 30 years. I did attend a Chicago event many years ago where he was the featured speaker: he is very knowledgeable and eloquent. He is a failure as a leader and as a person, but why you do call him a failure as a soldier? When he enlisted in the IDF 50+ years ago, he served with distinction and was wounded multiple times. His failures now are as a leader, not as a soldier. He’s a moral coward, but has never displayed physical cowardice.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:38:03pm

re: #64 darthstar

Someone should have told Melania it was a celebration for a children’s daycare opening so she would have remembered to dress in black like everyone else.

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At my alma mater. It was the site of our convocation and where I saw talks by Kurt Vonnegut and (shamefully) Jim Belushi. I briefly met Jimmy one day as he was going into a nearby lecture hall to prepare for his first talk under an agreement with the school and the new Carter Center a few miles away in Atlanta. (this is technically Decatur)

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:42:53pm

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:56:46pm

Well, it appears I should get my anti-semitic ass to bed.

Night all, sweet scaly dreams

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 28, 2023 • 6:59:17pm

re: #76 austin_blue

Would you guys STOP with this. Anyone who was here knows who you’re calling out with this. This bickering over a stupid fucking war that has shitty people on both sides isn’t doing anybody any favors. Sweet mother of Christ.

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TedStriker  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:05:43pm

re: #77 Nerdy Fish

Agreed.

It doesn’t help and comes off as spiteful nose-rubbing.

Everyone already knows what they said, I just got tired of the matter last night after saying my piece to the parties concerned and let it be, because we’re all (presumably) adults.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:06:58pm

Mom heard this story when she was dating him.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:08:21pm

Link

That the press seems to thrill at the prospect of a Playoff Bowl between Haley (9.8 percent in the latest Real Clear Politics polling average) and DeSantis (13.7 percent), when first-placer Donald Trump (61.6 percent) seems destined to face Joe Biden in the championship game, is not to paint reporters with hinky-dinkness, only to suggest it.”

So close to forcefully and clearly saying what mattered then they couldn’t do it

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:10:41pm

re: #80 Dangerman

Link

So close to forcefully and clearly saying what mattered then they couldn’t do it

It’s not that they couldn’t do it.

They WOULDN’T do it.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:15:47pm

They will say ANYTHING…

GOPer accuses Hunter Biden of ‘blocking’ Comer’s investigation by offering to testify

rawstory.com

Rep. Ben Cline (R-VA) accused Hunter Biden of “blocking” Rep. James Comer’s (R-KY) impeachment investigation by offering to testify in public.

During an interview on Newsmax, Cline suggested that the offer was a plot to stall the probe.

“Well, this committee is trying to get the facts, get to the bottom of the corruption that was going on in the Biden family between Hunter Biden and the rest of the family and exactly follow the money to where it leads, and they’re preparing a report to give to the Judiciary Committee,” Kline explained. “The Democrats are stalling. They’ve essentially sent the message to Hunter Biden that we will protect you if it’s in public and for show.”

And that liar uttered that with a straight face…

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:20:02pm

HBO has this show about Charles Blow’s book The Devil You Know, where he argues that blacks should move back to southern states if they really want to change things. His example is Vermont. In the 70s, Richard Pollak wrote an article in Playboy that argued that if the young wanted to make a change, they should move to Vermont and take it over. And they did in large numbers and changed the politics of the state. Blow is arguing that blacks should move to the south and do it there across the whole region.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:25:49pm

re: #70 austin_blue

I really wasn’t asking, I was just stating facts.

Some folks think stating facts make you “Anti- XXX”.

It’s all performative bulkshit.

Against my better judgment I’ll jump in to say I appreciate the support but I can defend myself, and have.

The whole Holocaust Inversion argument as it’s being presented is actually very interesting though, in that usually conflating Israel with “the Jews” in general is itself an antisemitic trope, deployed by racists intent on implying dual loyalty, etc. It’s what Trump does when he accuses American Jewish Democrats of being disloyal to Israel when they voted against him. Except apparently it’s also totally okay in certain circumstances to make that same lazy conflation in reverse if the goal is to metaphysically convert any fact based criticism of Israel’s government, its policies and specific inconvenient historical realities into an attack on Jews in general.

Curious how that works.

Furthermore it’s also okay to conflate clearly stated and articulated accusations of apartheid into absolutely unstated claims of genocide, because who doesn’t love a good emotional straw man when the actual argument being made is rooted in the observable reality on the ground and is impossible to deny.

And since the entire point of the Inversion accusation seems in making certain discussions completely off limits due to historical suffering I can’t help but think of Art Spiegelman’s comment when asked about Israel’s policies, “suffering doesn’t make people good, it just makes them suffer.”

For what it’s worth the statement applies equally to Palestinians, if for no other reason than they’re people too. And Hamas absolutely are monsters, so suffering clearly hasn’t elevated their thinking in any way. The entire idea that one group can claim a monopoly on righteousness is a huge part of the problem.

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:26:02pm

re: #81 Joe Bacon ✅

It’s not that they couldn’t do it.

They WOULDN’T do it.

Yup. That’s the meta

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Dangerman  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:27:37pm

re: #82 Joe Bacon ✅

They will say ANYTHING…

GOPer accuses Hunter Biden of ‘blocking’ Comer’s investigation by offering to testify

rawstory.com

Rep. Ben Cline (R-VA) accused Hunter Biden of “blocking” Rep. James Comer’s (R-KY) impeachment investigation by offering to testify in public.

During an interview on Newsmax, Cline suggested that the offer was a plot to stall the probe.

“Well, this committee is trying to get the facts, get to the bottom of the corruption that was going on in the Biden family between Hunter Biden and the rest of the family and exactly follow the money to where it leads, and they’re preparing a report to give to the Judiciary Committee,” Kline explained. “The Democrats are stalling. They’ve essentially sent the message to Hunter Biden that we will protect you if it’s in public and for show.”

And that liar uttered that with a straight face…

How is “yes I will testify for all to hear and on the date you picked” stalling?

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JC1  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:31:44pm

re: #66 austin_blue

By the way, have I been “anti-semitic” in these posts today?

I’ve always thought it was a tough argument when discussing Israel and the Jews and the Palestinians (aka Phoenicians, back in the day [way back in the day]).

Both groups, really, were Semites. The Jews left the Levant to go to Egypt. That didn’t work out very well, so they became Red Sea pedestrians to return (eventually!) to the Levant where they fought the Phoenicians for Judea and Sumeria, and established a Jewish Kingdom.

They didn’t keep it very long, and ended up forcibly being sent to Babylonia (how many Jews were there at that point? 20,000? How does a group of people survive intact during a 1,000 mile displacement, on foot?)

Is there any non-biblical evidence for the whole Egypt thing?

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:38:42pm

Boosted yesterday, booked LV hotel for Thurs-Sat. Yeah, a little close for the vax to be useful, but I did just have the virus 3 1/2 months ago so I’ve got some of that immunity on my side.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:39:46pm

On the lighter side I bought a new old camera, a Voightländer Bessa II, probably the most compact 6x9cm camera ever made.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:45:43pm

re: #87 JC1

Is there any non-biblical evidence for the whole Egypt thing?

To the best of my knowledge, so far, no archeological evidence has been found to support the “40 years in the wilderness” Exodus narrative. Archeologists have been poking around the Sinai Peninsula for decades.

There’s the Hyksos hypothesis, which gets brought up from time to time; The Hyksos are believed to be a group of Semitic peoples with a Levantine origin that gradually settled in the Nile Delta around the end of the Twelfth Dynasty onwards and who may have seceded from unstable Egyptian control at some point during the Thirteenth Dynasty. The Hyksos themselves formed the Fifteenth Dynasty, and they coexisted with the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Dynasties, and were finally expelled from Egypt during the reign of Ahmose I (around 1550 BCE).

It’s been suggested that the Exodus story is a historical memory of that expulsion - if indeed the Israelites and the Hyksos were one and the same.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:51:58pm

re: #89 goddamnedfrank

On the lighter side I bought a new old camera, a Voightländer Bessa II, probably the most compact 6x9cm camera ever made.

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They’re nice, but I’ve always preferred Zeiss because they are more sturdily built and (IMO and all that) the rangefinders work better. The Color-Heliar is usually a better lens than the Tessar on most Super-Ikonta to most people but I’ve always been a sucker for the way the Tessar renders so for me that’s a toss up. I’ll look forward to seeing what you get from it 👍

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A Cranky One  Nov 28, 2023 • 7:56:03pm

I’m a retired engineer.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Nov 28, 2023 • 8:07:53pm

re: #87 JC1

Is there any non-biblical evidence for the whole Egypt thing?

It’s been a long time since I worked at this…

There is evidence for semitic peoples in Egypt, and some for small groups of semitic slaves escaping, but nothing really unequivocal.

Also the subject is so fraught that any (modern) source has to be examined with great caution for bias, for or against the idea that it was historic — and I don’t have the time or the inclination, so I’ll say no more.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2023 • 8:37:54pm

Finished striping. These will go on each side of the entrance to my house:

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2023 • 8:45:08pm

re: #86 Dangerman

How is “yes I will testify for all to hear and on the date you picked” stalling?

Because it’s not really about stalling, it’s about the bit at the end:

“They’ve essentially sent the message to Hunter Biden that we will protect you if it’s in public and for show.”

A deposition under the modern GQP is not a serious affair meant to ask questions of a sensitive or dangerous nature, it’s a backroom circle jerk intended to produce a series of “leaks” totally devoid of context in order to further the narrative. You can be sure that if they can get Hunter to sit down for one, you won’t see the transcript before the elections next November.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 8:52:16pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

We know that if the RepubliKKKlans get their way with Hunter in private they will edit tapes to make it look like he’s lying and FAUX will gladly show them endlessly.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2023 • 8:57:48pm

I wish I could ski all the time.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:00:57pm

Don’t know if this will show up but it is stupid enough that I have to try..

facebook.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:02:30pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

Because it’s not really about stalling, it’s about the bit at the end:

A deposition under the modern GQP is not a serious affair meant to ask questions of a sensitive or dangerous nature, it’s a backroom circle jerk intended to produce a series of “leaks” totally devoid of context in order to further the narrative. You can be sure that if they can get Hunter to sit down for one, you won’t see the transcript before the elections next November.

Yep. If Hunter sticks to his proposal, the GOP will never agree to the deposition.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:04:17pm

Skiing is the MOST fun, y’all. I’m sad the vast majority y’all will never know the pure joy of skiing/snowboarding.

I don’t know. Maybe I’ve been doing it for so long (most of my life!) …

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:12:30pm

The real reason the GQP don’t want to hold a public hearing is every one they’ve held so far on this subject has led to total embarrassment. It’s why Comer has simply stopped showing up to them and you don’t see them broadcast live much anymore. They don’t have the facts, they don’t have the evidence, and they certainly don’t have a modicum of support in the Dem ranks for their dog and pony show.

So what we instead get are these sad affairs where half their number ask questions that either go nowhere or get answers they didn’t expect, the other half spend their allotted time out in the bushes looking for snipes, and the Dems keep dropping receipt after receipt.

What Comer dreads more than anything is a replay of the Hillary questioning: A prolonged public spectacle that ends with no hits landed and Hunter leaving the room without a hair out of place while Jimmy stumbles out covered in flop sweat as he mumbles to the cameras about how Hunter didn’t cooperate and they’ve “still got questions.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:12:40pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

Skiing is the MOST fun, y’all. I’m sad the vast majority y’all will never know the pure joy of skiing/snowboarding.

I don’t know. Maybe I’ve been doing it for so long (most of my life!) …

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2 of my great nieces (age 16 and 13) are excellent skiers. They live in New York but are heading to Utah for a week during winter break. Their parents (my nephew and his wife) are not so skilled. My late husband loved to ski — you would never get me to try it out.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:17:15pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

….

What Comer dreads more than anything is a replay of the Hillary questioning: A prolonged public spectacle that ends with no hits landed and Hunter leaving the room without a hair out of place while Jimmy stumbles out covered in flop sweat as he mumbles to the cameras about how Hunter didn’t cooperate and they’ve “still got questions.”

The Hillary questioning was extremely successful; it inflicted enough damage on her reputation that Trump managed to get elected. All they want to to is brainwash the public into thinking that the Bidens are as corrupt as Trump so the voters won’t consider this as part of their decision-making when voting.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:22:30pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

Skiing is the MOST fun, y’all. I’m sad the vast majority y’all will never know the pure joy of skiing/snowboarding.

I don’t know. Maybe I’ve been doing it for so long (most of my life!) …

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< shudder > my knees ache just looking at that and remembering the injuries from Army skiing.

Standing with a camera in hand and managing to capture something like this?

That’s my pure joy that few ever really know.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:26:40pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

Skiing is the MOST fun, y’all. I’m sad the vast majority y’all will never know the pure joy of skiing/snowboarding.

I don’t know. Maybe I’ve been doing it for so long (most of my life!) …

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ABSOLUTELY AMEN!

I haven’t been on skis for 16 years: and dreadfully miss every winter’s day of it.

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mmmirele  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:36:23pm

re: #65 Joe Bacon ✅

Pope Francis Punishes Cardinal Raymond Burke, One of His Most Outspoken Critics

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving asshole.

Pope Francis has taken away a subsidized Vatican apartment and salary from Cardinal Raymond Burke, a prominent critic who has frequently criticized the reform-minded pope’s policies, two sources told the Associated Press. Francis reportedly met with church leaders last week to inform them of his decision, explaining that Burke fostered “disunity” in the church and was using his privileges to undermine the institution. Burke had not been alerted to his disciplining on Tuesday morning, according to his secretary. AP reported that Burke, who is considered by many to be the head of Francis’ conservative opposition, argued against an October assembly to talk about making the Catholic Church more inclusive toward LGBTQ+ followers and granting women and non-priests more opportunities. In 2014, Francis fired Burke from the Congregation of Bishops, which the cardinal said was due to his decision to talk “too much about abortion” and about “marriage as between one man and one woman.”

thedailybeast.com

What’s up with the Pope? Is he feeling threatened or something?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:41:48pm

OK, off to work. Back later.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:41:58pm

re: #106 mmmirele

What’s up with the Pope? Is he feeling threatened or something?

1. Possibly
2. The boss man has decided to inform people that he’s the boss man.

Part of the point of him was that he was closer to the people than a lot of the other popes had been.

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mmmirele  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:41:58pm

re: #98 William Lewis

Don’t know if this will show up but it is stupid enough that I have to try..

facebook.com

I didn’t expect to see Apocalypse Now reenacted over a fallow field in winter.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:42:52pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

I absolutely loved it when I was skiing; even though I was horrible at it, it was the closest I think you can come to flying without actually being airborne.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:44:34pm

re: #103 Hecuba’s daughter

The Hillary questioning was extremely successful; it inflicted enough damage on her reputation that Trump managed to get elected. All they want to to is brainwash the public into thinking that the Bidens are as corrupt as Trump so the voters won’t consider this as part of their decision-making when voting.

By the time of the marathon hearing in Oct ‘16, the damage had already largely been done. Remember that just a month prior, the media spent several days flipping out over Hillary’s “health scare” at the 9/11 memorial and even some of our fellow lizards felt the need to opine at length about how wrong she was for not giving the public a minute-by-minute summary of her health because it had allowed the GQP to continue to portray her as secretive and “frail.” The Buttery Males “investigation” had long since concluded and Comey’s 11th hour letter was still days away, while “BENGHAZI!!!” had been on the GQP’s lips for over 4 years at that point.

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silverdolphin  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:50:08pm

‘Scott Pilgrim Takes Off’ Is a Winning Remix With Surprises Up Its Sleeve

Saw the first episode and if you like the live action movie (I loved it) you will likely find this one as much fun. It does require the realization that this is a very different narrative. Very much as if the original writer made two very different drafts of the same story. In some ways it has a Rashoman-esque aspect.

And having the original actors from the movie do the voices, just highlights how famous so many of them have become. I’d love to see more seasons of this.

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Captain Ron  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:55:30pm
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silverdolphin  Nov 28, 2023 • 9:57:00pm

The Israeli Government turns Screws on Haaretz Newspaper to Cease Critical Coverage of War

Threatening to shut down a paper that is critical of the Netanyahu government. Sad to see in a democracy.

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silverdolphin  Nov 28, 2023 • 10:15:44pm

‘Hit job’: Trump says government should ‘come down hard’ on ‘illegal’ activity by MSNBC

Trump follows Netanyahu by going after media he sees as not paying storng enough fealty to him. MSNBC only does poliitcal activity. No mention of Fox. Not surprising.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2023 • 10:17:14pm

re: #113 Captain Ron

MSNBC doesn’t use the airwaves.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 28, 2023 • 10:31:32pm

‘Our eyes are open’: Mary Trump calls out ‘MAGA Mike Johnson’ for alleged Russian ties

rawstory.com

Mary Trump is convinced newly minted House Speaker Mike Johnson is compromised by Russia.

“Despite the fact that Mike Johnson now holds a place of enormous power in the American government, he remains an elusive character whose perverted notions of American democracy and religious fanaticism still aren’t completely understood,” she states on her Substack “The Good In Us.”

She cites a Newsweek piece that breaks down Mother Russia’s infiltration of U.S. politics by funneling money into a slate of MAGA-entrenched Congressmen.

It specifically looks at Texas-based American Ethane company which is on record for doling out “tens of thousands of dollars” to Louisiana Republican campaigns, including the new House Speaker whom she dubs: Mike “America is not a democracy, it’s a biblical republic” Johnson.

American Ethane, according to the story, in 2018 was fronted by an American named John Houghtaling. But 88% of the firm was “owned by three Russian nationals” — Konstantin Nikolaev, Mikhail Yuriev, and Andrey Kunatbaev.

She noted that Johnson collected at least three checks, for $6,100 apiece, from American Ethane.

Donald Trump’s niece writes that at least one of the three owners, Nikolaev, had “deep ties to Putin” and “even funded” Russian national Maria Butina, who after serving a 15-month stint in prison for acting as a Russian foreign agent, was deported back to Russia.

The company was subject to a minute $9,500 in civil penalties for donating to GOP candidates. The small amount was condemned by two FEC commissioners, Shana M. Broussard and Ellen L. Weintraub, according to Newsweek.

It appears Johnson’s campaign noted that the money was returned once “the situation first came out.”

Mary notes that it was only returned after going public, and that raises concerns about Johnson’s patriotism.

“But would Johnson have kept the money if his accepting the contribution hadn’t been exposed in the first place,” she asks.

She wonders what happens when the potentially Russian-tainted Johnson is supposed to make “one of the largest foreign policy decisions of the last decade: Will the United States continue funding Ukraine’s efforts against the illegal Russian invasion of their country?”

She questioned his dedication to protecting Ukraine and cited his voting record from 2022 that appeared to go against Ukraine’s best interest to defend their country against “Putin’s Russia.”

“Once again, we’re left wondering about a possible web of influence that raises unsettling questions about the allegiance of key figures within the center of our country’s government and many of the Republicans who are running it,” she writes. “One thing is certain: Our eyes are open. And we’re watching.”

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2023 • 10:57:06pm

re: #112 silverdolphin

‘Scott Pilgrim Takes Off’ Is a Winning Remix With Surprises Up Its Sleeve

Saw the first episode and if you like the live action movie (I loved it) you will likely find this one as much fun. It does require the realization that this is a very different narrative. Very much as if the original writer made two very different drafts of the same story. In some ways it has a Rashoman-esque aspect.

And having the original actors from the movie do the voices, just highlights how famous so many of them have become. I’d love to see more seasons of this.

You could think of the anime as a “fix fic,” with the author taking the opportunity to address the reality that Ramona hadn’t really gone through any character growth in either graphic novels or the live-action movie. Yeah, she ended up admitting that she’d been the cause of all of her breakups and several of her exes had legit beefs with her, but it only happened in the last chapters of the final novel and even then she told Scott that she had to keep moving and couldn’t guarantee that she wouldn’t just run away from him too. And that’s exactly what happened: They had a fight, she couldn’t deal with it, and their break-up caused Scott to become another “Evil Exe.” By taking him out of the equation, Older Scott actually forced her to not only face her faults, but actually gave (mostly) everybody a better ending by addressing their own happiness in the absence of a fight for her.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 28, 2023 • 11:46:00pm

Advice from a centenarian pianist:

World’s oldest recording pianist, Colette Maze, dies aged 109 | Classic FM



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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 28, 2023 • 11:46:32pm

re: #119 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Likely very few people have ever played the piano for a 100 years.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 29, 2023 • 12:02:06am

Goats are not known to be very bright:

A Goat with a Bucket Stuck on its Head


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Captain Ron  Nov 29, 2023 • 12:23:33am

I was just outside 15 minutes ago. My wife looks out the kitchen window and asks, “Is it raining out?” I said, “No, I was just out, it was clear and the moon was out.” Yep, it is raining. Well the breaks up the Groundhog Days we’ve had. It’s been 40 out when I get up in the morning, gets to 62.4 at 2:28 and by 2:30 it’s going down. It’s been like that over what seems like 2 weeks. I might ride in 62 weather if it was that at 10:30 AM but school traffic is hazardous in the afternoon.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2023 • 12:30:38am

Another Osprey went down. This thing was such a miserable fucking mistake.

A US military Osprey aircraft crashed off the coast of Japan’s Yakushima Island in southern Kagoshima prefecture on Wednesday, with eight people on board, according to a spokesperson from the Japan Coast Guard.

The Coast Guard received information about the crash around 2:47 p.m. local time (12:47 a.m. ET), said the spokesperson, adding the 10th Regional Coast Guard Headquarters has dispatched a patrol boat and aircraft to the crash area.

The spokesperson said that there is currently no information on whether there were any injuries.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 29, 2023 • 12:44:59am

Famed American businessman Charlie Munger died, and being somewhat famous his Wikipedia entry now has a disclaimer:

He was also, of course, a billionaire:

At the time of his death, Munger had an estimated net worth of $2.6 billion and was ranked as the 1182nd richest person in the world, according to Forbes.

Poor guy, only number 1182 on the list. What’s a billionaire to do anymore to break the top 500?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 1:04:03am

re: #61 gocart mozart

I don’t understand why democrats are worried about Joe Biden losing his bid for reelection. If he loses, then the election was rigged and Kamala Harris just refuses to certify the vote. If anyone complains, the President just calls in the military and declares martial law. Right?

Pre-emptive retaliation

Plus a left-wing pundit (preferably one with a criminal record) releases a film called 20,000 Jackasses that describes how they stole the votes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 1:05:50am

re: #70 austin_blue

Some folks think stating facts make you “Anti- XXX”.

and talking about race makes *you* the racist

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 1:11:12am

re: #92 A Cranky One

There is another subset, namely those who get so excited and enthused about their ideas that they seem perplexed that the rest of the world does not immediately share their enthusiasm and want to participate, and do not see the need to explain why their brain child is such a genius.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 29, 2023 • 1:18:04am

re: #115 silverdolphin

‘Hit job’: Trump says government should ‘come down hard’ on ‘illegal’ activity by MSNBC

Trump follows Netanyahu by going after media he sees as not paying storng enough fealty to him. MSNBC only does poliitcal activity. No mention of Fox. Not surprising.

Orban to a T.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 1:21:51am

re: #128 Barefoot Grin

Orban to a T.

Erdogan is such a great guy. He was mixing them up sarcastically.

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silverdolphin  Nov 29, 2023 • 1:40:51am

re: #118 Targetpractice

You could think of the anime as a “fix fic,” with the author taking the opportunity to address the reality that Ramona hadn’t really gone through any character growth in either graphic novels or the live-action movie. Yeah, she ended up admitting that she’d been the cause of all of her breakups and several of her exes had legit beefs with her, but it only happened in the last chapters of the final novel and even then she told Scott that she had to keep moving and couldn’t guarantee that she wouldn’t just run away from him too. And that’s exactly what happened: They had a fight, she couldn’t deal with it, and their break-up caused Scott to become another “Evil Exe.” By taking him out of the equation, Older Scott actually forced her to not only face her faults, but actually gave (mostly) everybody a better ending by addressing their own happiness in the absence of a fight for her.

Yes. In the movie, Scott is a dick to everyone but eventually learns self-respect and owns up to his faults. Glad to hear that Ramona may have a similar arc. She had moments in the movie. Sounds lke they expand in the anime.

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Nojay UK  Nov 29, 2023 • 1:55:45am

re: #93 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

The Exodus story doesn’t make sense geographically — according to the Old Testament stories the Israelites spent forty years “wandering in the wilderness” to cover a distance of about 200 miles from the Red Sea area of Egypt to Canaan, the Promised Land. That’s not very quick. The “wilderness” between the two areas has been continuously populated for thousands of years with lots of small towns and villages that were substantial enough to leave traces of stone and mud-brick construction for the archaeological record, so it’s pretty much impossible that they never encountered other people in that forty years of travel.

My own guess is that the Israelites were actually a few familial tribes of itinerant bandits who raided the local villages for “manna” i.e. stored food, livestock and any nubile young women left over after their raiding. Eventually they settled down in one of the better parts of the area, “a land flowing with milk and honey”, and started rewriting their history and genealogy to make their ancestors look better.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 29, 2023 • 2:06:50am

re: #131 Nojay UK

We must remember that what we call the “OT” and what to Jews are simply their “Scriptures” mostly originate from the returning elite Judahites, coming back from the center of the neo-Babylonian empire.

Also some writings are from their descendants, right down to the book of Daniel being quite late (at least in part.)

So the scribes/priests writing in the 6th and 5th centuries BCE were proposing ancestral stories which they place almost a millennium before their own time.

Oral traditions likely informed the writings, but oral traditions not only change but can be selected based on intended political ends.

The Levant has been occupied since modern humans left Africa.

The reality that is uncomfortable for everyone is that a piece of ground can be occupied by a great many human groups over tens of thousands of years.

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Nojay UK  Nov 29, 2023 • 2:24:54am

re: #132 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Oral traditions likely informed the writings, but oral traditions not only change but can be selected based on intended political ends.

Not just oral traditions. Look at the creation myth of the American Republic to see how reality and the heavily-edited history differ despite all of the Founding Fathers being literate diarists, correspondents and polemicists. We have the dated receipts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 2:27:56am

re: #133 Nojay UK

The Pilgrims came here to seek Religious Freedom: namely the Freedom to impose their religion on society.

The Texans fought for their rights, including the right to keep slaves

The Confederacy fought not only for the right to own slaves but to expand slavery into the newly acquired territories

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 29, 2023 • 2:28:56am

Long ago, in the ancient days, the first Page I did here was about one of the famous quacks in the American Christian cult, Mr. Art Robinson.

That was over 13 years ago (how time flies!), so imagine my surprise when I came across Robinson’s name again.

Setting the table:

Physicist John Clauser was one of the winners for the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics. He has worked in experimental tests of quantum mechanics.

It turns out that after he won that prize he started to make outlandish assertions about climate change. RealClimate reports:

Before we get into the details of what is going here, let’s look at some of the stranger claims about climate science he has made…

RealClimate then lists specious claims that Clauser made. Some of his claims are just untrue.

That he used the Epoch Times to lay out his assertions should have raised a red flag.

So what could lead an otherwise highly respected and awarded physicist to dive head first into science denial.

RealClimate gives part of the answer:

But it turns out that Art Robinson (of the Oregon Petition fame) was his college roommate many decades ago, and so perhaps we don’t need to look much deeper into where he gets his (mis)information.

Sigh… I have warned many times of scientists going emeritus.

Even those people who are highly educated and otherwise pretty sharp can, as they age, fall into quackery and be marks for conmen.

I suspect Clauser had long held some strange ideas, but the important thing about science publication is that the publication process keeps in check one from going over the edge.

The RealClimate article goes into refutation of Clauser’s claims, if anyone wants to dive into the details.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 2:33:56am

re: #135 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sigh… I have warned many times of scientists going emeritus.

Ben Carson the Egyptologist and Biblical Scholar…

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2023 • 3:08:51am

re: #113 Captain Ron

Can you imagine what would happen if President Biden said something remotely similar about Fox Noise? Trump is a fascist. Like other right wingers, he’s only about free speech when it comes from his side.

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2023 • 3:16:08am

re: #137 Patricia Kayden

Can you imagine what would happen if President Biden said something remotely similar about Fox Noise? Trump is a fascist. Like other right wingers, he’s only about free speech when it comes from his side.

I still remember the far-right losing their shit every time Obama or a member of the press dept pointing out that Faux was just a propaganda outlet.

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Dangerman  Nov 29, 2023 • 3:28:05am

re: #100 teleskiguy

Skiing is the MOST fun, y’all. I’m sad the vast majority y’all will never know the pure joy of skiing/snowboarding.

I don’t know. Maybe I’ve been doing it for so long (most of my life!) …

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It is wonderful that you know your bliss. I’m thrilled every snow season to see you so rapt and engrossed. Just so damned happy.

I feel what you feel with 40+ years of open road motorcycling.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 3:36:47am

re: #138 Targetpractice

I still remember the far-right losing their shit every time Obama or a member of the press dept pointing out that Faux was just a propaganda outlet.

And DJT is suing people for pointing out that his own propaganda outlet is losing money

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 3:52:20am

Morning lizardim from the relatively mild wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this pre-December morning?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 3:58:20am

CNN:

“A viral $16 McDonald’s meal won’t go away and that’s a problem for the Democrats”.

Because in the end, people vote for the party with the biggest patties for the least money.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 29, 2023 • 4:08:05am

Some snowy morning hump day drive time music.

The Church - Under The Milky Way

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 4:17:51am

I had a real hard time with this one.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 29, 2023 • 4:20:21am

Applesauce marketed to children recalled over lead levels after 52 averse events.

FDA, along with CDC and state and local partners, is investigating reports of elevated blood lead levels in individuals with reported exposure to Apple Cinnamon Fruit Puree pouches manufactured in Ecuador and sold under WanaBana, Weis, and Schnucks brands.

As of November 22, 2023, there have been 52 reports of adverse events potentially linked to recalled product submitted to FDA. To date, confirmed complainants are less than 1 to 4 years of age. FDA is continuing to evaluate incoming adverse event reports.

FDA is aware that recalled WanaBana Apple Cinnamon Puree is still on the shelves at several Dollar Tree stores in multiple states. FDA is working with the firm to ensure an effective recall. This product should not be available for sale and consumers should not purchase or consume this product as it is potentially contaminated with lead, which can be harmful to health, particularly for children.

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As reported in a safety alert issued by FDA on October 28, 2023, the FDA, along with the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services (NCDHHS) and the North Carolina Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services (NCDA&CS) are investigating reports of four children with elevated blood lead levels, indicating potential acute lead toxicity. The NCDHHS investigation identified WanaBana Apple Cinnamon Fruit Puree pouches as a potential shared source of exposure. As part of their investigation, NCDHHS analyzed multiple lots of WanaBana Apple Cinnamon Fruit Puree, detecting extremely high concentrations of lead. The FDA has reviewed and supports NCDHHS’s analytical findings and determined that levels of lead found in the analyzed pouches could result in acute lead toxicity.

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FDA, along with CDC and state and local partners, is investigating reports of elevated blood lead levels in individuals with reported exposure to Apple Cinnamon Fruit Puree pouches manufactured in Ecuador and sold under WanaBana, Weis, and Schnucks brands.

fda.gov

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BigPapa  Nov 29, 2023 • 4:34:51am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does the wingnut boo boos know most fast food meat has soy in it?

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2023 • 4:35:06am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

CNN:

“A viral $16 McDonald’s meal won’t go away and that’s a problem for the Democrats”.

Because in the end, people vote for the party with the biggest patties for the least money.

Yeah, how is it that people who spend less than 5 minutes on TikTok once in a blue moon know about this “viral” meme? It’s almost like people who have a vested interest in perpetuating this BS are telling those of us who knew nothing about that it’s a serious issue that we should be very worried about.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 4:42:08am

A bit of new wave memory…

Berlin - The Metro

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Dave In Austin  Nov 29, 2023 • 4:47:01am

Oklahoma…..

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 4:57:36am

re: #144 Nerdy Fish

I had a real hard time with this one.

Took me a while, too.
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Randall Gross  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:07:14am

bsky.app

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:10:10am

re: #151 Thanos

And a lot of those guys when told someone is tired or sick their response is “take a pill” and do not really care about anyone except themselves.

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Dangerman  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:11:19am

re: #148 William Lewis

I hope there was some interesting stuff in the box

Are you having fun with your new toys?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:20:34am

re: #98 William Lewis

Don’t know if this will show up but it is stupid enough that I have to try..

facebook.com

How is that NOT a gross violation of some FFA ATF/FAA regulation?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:22:14am

re: #151 Thanos

Why don’t Trump dudes concentrate on getting Conservative women? There are loads of them out here even in blue states. My Dog Walker has a Trump sticker on her truck and is single. I have White women co-workers who are conservatives.

It’s odd to me that anyone is trying to get liberal/progressive women to date men who obviously don’t share their values. Sexist much?

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:24:56am

re: #154 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

How is that NOT a gross violation of some FFA/FAA regulation?

I suspect the Federal Aviation Authority may have words with him once they see this…Future Farmers of America probably not so much. :-)

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:32:19am

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:34:04am

It is ok to be not ok. Get through today, tomorrow is another day. Beautiful family.

Serena Williams has all the love she needs at home.

The retired tennis pro got some comforting cuddles from her 3-month-old baby daughter, Adira River, Tuesday after revealing she was having a rough day.

She showed off the sweet moment on X, formerly Twitter, with a precious photo of her little one snuggled up to her chest in a blue polka-dot blanket.

“This makes me so happy,” she captioned the pic.

Just a few hours before sharing the picture, Williams, 42, got vulnerable on the social media platform about her mental health.

“I am not ok today. And that’s ok to not be ok. No one is ok every single day. If you are not ok today I’m with you,” she wrote.

“There’s always tomorrow 😘 Love you.”

pagesix.com

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:35:10am

re: #155 Patricia Kayden

Why don’t Trump dudes concentrate on getting Conservative women? There are loads of them out here even in blue states. My Dog Walker has a Trump sticker on her truck and is single. I have White women co-workers who are conservatives.

It’s odd to me that anyone is trying to get liberal/progressive women to date men who obviously don’t share their values. Sexist much?

Because it’s not about that. It’s about the ability of men to be able to tell women who they should and shouldn’t have sex with/marry. Conservative women are already handmaids.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:35:25am

In addition to the murder sentence, Alex Murdaugh received 27 years for stealing from clients.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:40:16am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Took a drastic step yesterday. Deleted Twitter from my phone. Not looking back. I still have my account there, and still have all those tweets floating out there, but I think I’ll be deleting it presently. It has outlived its usefulness.

The site is a hellscape and no longer provides the service of identifying breaking news items and delivering up top news items. Musk broke it. That was his intent, along with destroying all the value.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:43:08am

re: #156 darthstar

I suspect the Federal Aviation Authority may have words with him once they see this…Future Farmers of America probably not so much. :-)

OOPS! Corrected. I blame it on having had only one cup of coffee so far this morning. :-)

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:43:13am

re: #100 teleskiguy

Skiing is the MOST fun, y’all. I’m sad the vast majority y’all will never know the pure joy of skiing/snowboarding.

I don’t know. Maybe I’ve been doing it for so long (most of my life!) …

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I haven’t skied in more than 30 years. I just loved the experience, but life got in the way and I haven’t been back, especially since the Mrs. isn’t a skier and the li’l man isn’t a fan of the cold. That latter bit might change, but I envy the ability to go out and ski and enjoy the solace and beauty of trying to carve the perfect line. Or just to stay on my skis all the way down to the end of the trail.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:43:15am

re: #161 lawhawk

I understand. I have closed down my account completely.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:50:17am

re: #164 PhillyPretzel ✅

I understand. I have closed down my account completely.

Yeah, I got out of there a while back, somewhere in the middle of Saint Elno’s replatforming of prominent Nazis. I don’t care if they take my username and do nefarious things with it; anyone who knows me knows where to find me for real.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:50:52am

I didn’t know Dennis Quaid played in a band. He is on GMA now.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:51:31am

re: #165 Nerdy Fish

True. The same with me. Folks who know me know where to find me.

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Dangerman  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:55:09am

re: #159 Nerdy Fish

Because it’s not about that. It’s about the ability of men to be able to tell women who they should and shouldn’t have sex with/marry. Conservative women are already handmaids.

paul newman in “absence of malice”

“Most of them are ugly”

(though in fairness he was talking about ‘liberated’ women)
it was 1981. scriptwriters were still young and innocent

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Randall Gross  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:01:09am

re: #155 Patricia Kayden

Why don’t Trump dudes concentrate on getting Conservative women? There are loads of them out here even in blue states. My Dog Walker has a Trump sticker on her truck and is single. I have White women co-workers who are conservatives.

It’s odd to me that anyone is trying to get liberal/progressive women to date men who obviously don’t share their values. Sexist much?

It’s like Jonestown, once you’ve drunk that Trump kool-aid there’s no coming back, so if someone has to change for the relationship to work, Ralph Kramden sez it’s you Alice.

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Oblongatis  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:01:36am

re: #109 mmmirele

It was not thought out, was very dangerous and only an idiot would think of doing it. But I have to say it was super cool and the aircraft didn’t blow up.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:01:42am

3rd Quarter GDP growth was revised upward to a 5.2% annual rate from an already impressive 4.9% initial report. Not bad, considering how terrible the economy is!

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:06:55am

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Randall Gross  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:08:01am

There’s a chance Jezebel gets resurrected by Paste Magazine
nytimes.com

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:08:05am

re: #172 Patricia Kayden

Joe is right.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:09:14am

re: #171 No Malarkey!

3rd Quarter GDP growth was revised upward to a 5.2% annual rate from an already impressive 4.9% initial report. Not bad, considering how terrible the economy is!

Economy grows at a higher rate than expected. Here’s why that’s bad news for Biden. /NYT

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:10:28am

re: #175 lawhawk

lol. That is exactly what they will say. The media is still trying to placate a bully.

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Randall Gross  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:14:38am

re: #175 lawhawk

Economy grows at a higher rate than expected. Here’s why that’s bad news for Biden. /NYT

I just skeeted pretty much the same thing, we are in resonance here in lizardom.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:15:20am

100 year old College of St. Rose in Albany NY on verge of being shut down due to financial difficulties and accreditation issues. The college has been in bad shape since before the pandemic because of declining admissions, and it’s only gotten worse since 2020. The school was warned by accreditors to get its house in order, but hasn’t been able to do so.

The college has well known nursing program and teaching program, but there’s no sign of a bailout forthcoming from local authorities, NYS, or even SUNY.

I can’t help but wonder if some of the financial problems were due to trying to buy additional properties near its campus, and it couldn’t sustain the carrying costs.

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Randall Gross  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:16:37am

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:17:14am

re: #176 PhillyPretzel ✅

lol. That is exactly what they will say. The media is still trying to placate a bully.

Trump used to crow when the economy grew at like 2% under Trump, and he claimed it was never better than under his corrupt and criminal control.

Yet, Biden has repeatedly exceeded 2%. Job growth under Biden is far higher than under Trump (even pre-pandemic numbers).

Trump wrecked the economy and Biden helped save it. Yet, media can’t help but try to prop up Trump while talking down Biden and claiming that a recession is around the corner.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:18:18am

Biden to take on Boebert after she attacked ‘garbage’ bill that brought ‘investments, jobs’ to Colorado

Joe is going to pay a visit to Klannie Oakley’s district.

Oh and Joe is going to visit that new wind tower factory in Pueblo tooting those “phony jobs” that Granny Crankyanker says don’t exist.

alternet.org

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:32:09am

re: #171 No Malarkey!

NYT: Why the uptick in the economy is horrible news for President Biden.

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A Cranky One  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:33:58am

How to use a dial telephone, 1954

instagram.com

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:35:45am

re: #183 A Cranky One

I can believe it. My late mom liked to tell the stories of the “party” lines and how she was able to get a “private” line in the mid ‘50’s.

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jeffreyw  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:40:06am

chicken noodle

Good morning!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:42:15am

An unregulated Louisiana group for Christian homeschoolers sells diplomas for $465

And you don’t need to take any classes at all thanks to the Louisiana legislature!

friendlyatheist.com

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:42:27am

re: #185 jeffreyw

That chicken soup looks good.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:43:14am

re: #185 jeffreyw

Oh that soup looks so good and it sure ain’t Campbell’s! 😉

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:44:08am

It would be hard to turn down one of these:

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:44:19am

Trump Era Tax Cuts Are Set To Expire — Here’s How Much More You’ll Pay

msn.com

When 2025 draws to a close, so will many of the sweeping Trump-era GOP tax breaks established by the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) of 2017. While the legislation made some tax cuts to corporate profit permanent, lowered individual tax rates will expire on Dec. 31, 2025, and will revert to pre-TCJA levels.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:45:33am
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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:47:16am

re: #185 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

An exchange I had with a former boss:

“Great minds think alike.”
“Yeah, so do ours.”

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No Malarkey!  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:49:41am

re: #184 PhillyPretzel ✅

I can believe it. My late mom liked to tell the stories of the “party” lines and how she was able to get a “private” line in the mid ‘50’s.

We still had a party line in the seventies.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:51:15am

re: #144 Nerdy Fish

I had a real hard time with this one.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:52:22am

re: #193 No Malarkey!

I can believe it. I still remember waiting in a Ma Bell storefront to get a touch-tone phone and the service to go with it. We had to wait most of the day since the store was jammed.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:55:47am

Took me much too long. In time, and guesses.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:58:22am

re: #157 Patricia Kayden

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reposted to bluesky.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:59:24am

re: #139 Dangerman

It is wonderful that you know your bliss. I’m thrilled every snow season to see you so rapt and engrossed. Just so damned happy.

I feel what you feel with 40+ years of open road motorcycling.

I love this series, for me I feel that way when I throw a golf disc 300’ down a tunnel in the woods through a landscape of trees that I planted and when I see others having fun there.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:59:57am

re: #190 Joe Bacon ✅

Trump Era Tax Cuts Are Set To Expire — Here’s How Much More You’ll Pay

msn.com

When 2025 draws to a close, so will many of the sweeping Trump-era GOP tax breaks established by the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) of 2017. While the legislation made some tax cuts to corporate profit permanent, lowered individual tax rates will expire on Dec. 31, 2025, and will revert to pre-TCJA levels.

Here’s why that’s Biden’s fault - NYT.

The TCJA was gamed by the GOP to be “revenue neutral” by reverting the middle class tax cuts after 12/31/2025, while keeping the business tax cuts and millionaire tax breaks in place. Throw in the uncertainty due to Moore v. United States being before the SCOTUS this session (addressing Section 965 taxation), and the TCJA’s trillion dollar debt add may explode exponentially because of the refunds that might be required to make taxpayers whole who paid that tax if SCOTUS invalidates the provision.

The middle class got fucked in the TCJA from day one, and the rate reversion is equivalent to a tax hike of 1-4%.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:00:05am

re: #146 BigPapa

Does the wingnut boo boos know most fast food meat has soy in it?

Cheap and easily accessible Fast Food is one of the Pillars of the Americasn Way of Life, which we all know the Biden Administration is out to undermine by making us eat overpriced artisanal insect burgers cooked by people with government -financed Master’s Degreees in Underwater Basketweaving at $28 per hour.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:03:08am

re: #168 Dangerman

paul newman in “absence of malice”

“Most of them are ugly”

(though in fairness he was talking about ‘liberated’ women)
it was 1981. scriptwriters were still young and innocent

Sounds like Matt Gaetz complaining about women who want abotion rights are too ugly to get pregnant in the first place.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:04:33am

re: #169 Thanos

It’s like Jonestown, once you’ve drunk that Trump kool-aid there’s no coming back, so if someone has to change for the relationship to work, Ralph Kramden sez it’s you Alice.

That is the other point: Conservative values are immutable, the woman has to adapt to them if she wants to land her an Alpha Trophy Male who will fix her up with a McMansion for her to tend to while he goes off on high-powered bsiness trips with his mistress(es)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:05:26am

re: #175 lawhawk

Economy grows at a higher rate than expected. Here’s why that’s bad news for Biden. /NYT

I didn’t say it this time!

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Randall Gross  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:06:30am

Welch calls for ceasefire

Welch Calls for Indefinite Ceasefire
WASHINGTON, D.C. — Senator Peter Welch (D-Vt.) today issued the following statement:

“The temporary ceasefire that began last Friday was the first glimmer of hope since Hamas savagely attacked Israel on October 7th, brutally massacring at least 1,200 Israelis, including women and children, and taking 240 hostages.

“The impact of the conflict in the Middle East has reverberated across the world, and we’ve seen the effects here at home in the form of Islamophobia and antisemitism. In Chicago, a six-year-old Muslim boy was murdered by his landlord. Antisemitism has spiked across college campuses. And this weekend in my home state of Vermont, three Palestinian-American students were senselessly shot by a stranger as they walked to a family gathering. This cycle of fear, intimidation, and violence must end.

“Israel had the right to counter-attack Hamas in Gaza. But Palestinians who had nothing to do with the crimes of October 7th have suffered grievously. The magnitude of the counter-attack has killed an estimated 14,800 Palestinians in Gaza, almost half women and children, and has injured tens of thousands more. The entire Palestinian population of Gaza is in the midst of a massive humanitarian catastrophe. Over 1.5 million people are homeless.

“So far, the ceasefire has been largely successful. Thanks to the active engagement of Qatar and Egypt, and the personal involvement of President Biden and the Netanyahu government, hostages have been released and the killing has stopped.

“But the ceasefire is scheduled to expire this week. That would be a grave mistake.

“I fully support Israel’s right to pursue those who ordered and carried out the attacks of October 7th. But Israel must not do so in a way that leads to massive civilian casualties and the large-scale destruction of civilian infrastructure in Gaza. This will only incite more enemies against Israel and the U.S.

“For this reason, the ceasefire must be extended indefinitely.

“The ceasefire must be extended first and foremost to stop the bombing and prevent further loss of civilian life. The United States cannot condone a resumption of the bombing when it causes death and injury to so many civilians.

“The ceasefire must be extended to ensure access to humanitarian relief to those who have been displaced, most of whom have no homes to return to. The Palestinian people, like all people, need access to clean water, food, medical care, and electricity.

“The ceasefire must be extended to continue negotiations to secure the release of the remaining hostages.

“And the ceasefire must be extended to begin a process for giving practical meaning to the two-state solution, which has been given lip service by U.S. Administrations and has been outright rejected by the Netanyahu government.

“Israel’s enemy is Hamas, not the Palestinian people.

“The United States must lead, in partnership with other nations and leaders that share this vision, a reinvigorated and sustained multinational effort to bring about a viable, independent State of Palestine alongside the State of Israel. It’s a goal the Netanyahu government has undermined and opposed.

“Throughout the years, the United States has provided tens of billions of dollars in aid to the Netanyahu government, in effect financing a government that consistently implements policies to make impossible a two-state solution that multiple U.S. Administrations, Republican and Democratic, have endorsed.

“The President has asked Congress to provide more than $14 billion for Israel to pursue its war plan against Hamas. The manner in which any such aid is provided must be debated. I will push for policies that ensure taxpayer dollars are only used in ways that comply with international humanitarian law.

“President Biden has established his support for Israel as America’s close ally and has upheld its right to exist as a Jewish and democratic state. I have long joined in that support. I always will. But the Netanyahu government, President Biden, and the Congress must also actively support the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people. That means sparing innocent Palestinians in Israel’s pursuit of Hamas, the perpetrators of the October 7th massacre, and renewing energetic efforts to create two states, side by side, peaceful and secure.”

welch.senate.gov

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:07:17am

re: #191 Belafon

The East Colonnade — the famed site of Melania Trump’s blood red topiary trees — features large, cheerful depictions of holiday candies and confections dangling from the ceiling

Where did they hide Chairman Mao this year?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:14:45am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sounds like Matt Gaetz complaining about women who want abotion rights are too ugly to get pregnant in the first place.

Gaetz knows a woman’s beauty starts to fade as soon as she gets her highschool diploma.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:18:13am

re: #155 Patricia Kayden

Why don’t Trump dudes concentrate on getting Conservative women? There are loads of them out here even in blue states. My Dog Walker has a Trump sticker on her truck and is single. I have White women co-workers who are conservatives.

It’s odd to me that anyone is trying to get liberal/progressive women to date men who obviously don’t share their values. Sexist much?

Location. The incels of that editorial live in NY or especially Washington DC, where single conservative women aren’t easy to find. (I remember a story about their “problem” from around 2017, when a lot of conservative men moved to DC following the orange one, and found that the local women refused to date them.)

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HRH Stanley Sea  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:19:13am

Freak accident, abject poverty

SALEM, S.C. (FOX Carolina) - The Oconee County Coroner said an 83-year-old woman is dead after she fell about 48 feet down a well shaft that was under a more than 100-year-old home.

According to the coroner, the woman arrived at a house located on Park Avenue on Sunday to visit and assist her daughter move.

As she was walking in the kitchen at around 2 p.m., she stepped onto the weakened floor and fell through into a well shaft that was unknown to the family.

According to the Oconee County Sheriff’s Office, the family knew the floor was rotten. When the woman fell her daughter crawled under the house to try and locate her mother, but she could not find her, deputies said.

wmbfnews.com

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wrenchwench  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:31:19am

Wordle 893 3/6*

Click to Reveal

It’s a birbie, it’s a fishy, it’s Super Wordle!

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BeachDem  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:33:33am

re: #169 Thanos

It’s like Jonestown, once you’ve drunk that Trump kool-aid there’s no coming back, so if someone has to change for the relationship to work, Ralph Kramden sez it’s you Alice.

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And back in 2012, this bullshit ran in the NYT

Guns and the Decline of the Young Man

with “profound” insight like:

“The young men are in decline.” They were once our heroes, our young and shining fathers, our sweet brothers, our tireless athletes, our fearless warriors, the brains of our institutions, the makers of our wares, the movers of our world…

Excuse me while I barf.

For women, things are looking up… However, because resources are limited, gains for women and minorities necessarily equal losses for white males.

Ah, the old zero sum argument.

From the civil rights and feminist movements of the 1960s and onward, young
men - and young white men in particular - have increasingly been asked to yield what they’d believed was securely theirs.

Just because they believed it doesn’t make it true.

And, if you haven’t puked yet, this conclusion should do it.

For those of us who belong to a demographic that is doing increasingly better, a trained empathic reflex toward those we know to be losing for our gains could lead to a more deferential attitude on our part and could constitute an invitation for them to stay
with us.

archive.nytimes.com

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A Cranky One  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:34:52am

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:36:00am

re: #211 A Cranky One

So true.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:39:09am

re: #211 A Cranky One

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When I was out shopping on Monday and every store and restaurant I was in was playing Christmas music in some sense* I mentioned that the store shouldn’t be doing that before December at the very least. And every single clerk/cashier agreed with me.

* - Some are just doing the 50s-era classic ones. The bookstore was doing a somewhat eclectic mix that was a bit jazzier and at times which Christmas song it was doing was not initially clear.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:39:37am

If this crackpot was your Dad would you call him at all?

MAGA lawyer rails against ‘the devil and his minions’ after his kids stop calling him

Right-wing attorney L. Lin Wood lamented that another Thanksgiving had passed without a call from any of his children.

The Georgia lawyer was sanctioned for participating in a lawsuit challenging Donald Trump’s election loss in 2020, which he said was when he last heard from any of his four adult children.

“Tomorrow will mark the 4th Thanksgiving beginning in 2020 that I have not heard from any of my 4 children (from 3 different marriages),” Wood posted on his Telegram channel. “Tomorrow is also my youngest son Charlie’s 35th birthday. I have not heard from him on his birthday in 4 years beginning in 2020.”

Wood, who has become embroiled in bitter feuds with other election deniers and was listed as a prosecution witness in the Georgia racketeering case against Trump, took no responsibility for their estrangement and instead blamed external foes.

well it’s because they want nothing to do with such a whacko as you, Lin!

rawstory.com

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:39:53am

re: #211 A Cranky One

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Already cutting back on my favorite _CLASSICAL_ station because of that foul noise.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:40:04am

re: #210 BeachDem

have increasingly been asked to yield what they’d believed was securely theirs

Just because they had bad parents doesn’t make it our problem to deal with. Neither me nor my three sons believe that anything was promised to us.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:40:22am

You know. I never considered cottage cheese a cheese.

Click to Reveal

It just a curd to me.

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BeachDem  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:41:04am

re: #192 Nerdy Fish

An exchange I had with a former boss:

“Great minds think alike.”
“Yeah, so do ours.”

another favorite of mine—often wrong; never in doubt.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:45:00am

re: #213 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

When I was out shopping on Monday and every store and restaurant I was in was playing Christmas music in some sense* I mentioned that the store shouldn’t be doing that before December at the very least. And every single clerk/cashier agreed with me.

* - Some are just doing the 50s-era classic ones. The bookstore was doing a somewhat eclectic mix that was a bit jazzier and at times which Christmas song it was doing was not initially clear.

New York Rules—It’s Christmas season as soon as Santa’s sleigh crosses the reviewing stand for the Macy’s parade.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:46:22am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

New York Rules—It’s Christmas season as soon as Santa’s sleigh crosses the reviewing stand for the Macy’s parade.

That’s the rule at my house in Texas.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:46:29am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Costco rules: It’s Christmas season the moment Costco trots out the Christmas stuff at their stores.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:47:25am

re: #222 lawhawk

Then there are the year-round Christmas stores in Florida.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:48:04am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

New York Rules—It’s Christmas season as soon as Santa’s sleigh crosses the reviewing stand for the Macy’s parade.

I also commented at the bookstore how their decorations skipped right from Halloween to Christmas in early November. The clerk remarked that they missed harvest festival decorations.

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wrenchwench  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:48:24am

January, 1980.

me
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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:51:07am

re: #225 wrenchwench

January, 1980.

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Remember that photo when people claim that NYC has gone to shit. Subways are running in good shape (for most part). Graffiti is largely absent from subways, crime is down significantly, and the city’s economy is one of the biggest drivers of the US economy.

But GOP is stuck on the Escape from NY dystopic vision of NYC. They will never get past that moment in time.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:53:08am

This US Attorney’s Office statement is wild:

Earlier this year, an Indian government employee (“CC-1”), working together with others, including GUPTA, in India and elsewhere, directed a plot to assassinate on U.S. soil an attorney and political activist who is a U.S. citizen of Indian origin residing in New York City (the “Victim”).

GUPTA is an Indian national who resides in India, is an associate of CC-1, and has described his involvement in international narcotics and weapons trafficking in his communications with CC-1 and others. CC-1 is an Indian government agency employee who has variously described himself as a “Senior Field Officer” with responsibilities in “Security Management” and “Intelligence,” and who also has referenced previously serving in India’s Central Reserve Police Force and receiving “officer[] training” in “battle craft” and “weapons.” CC-1 directed the assassination plot from India.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:53:11am

re: #225 wrenchwench

The people ride in a hole in the ground.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:53:56am

re: #225 wrenchwench

January, 1980.

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I was 26 and driving a truck in or out of Denver….. Those were some days.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:56:50am

re: #225 wrenchwench

January 1980. I was looking forward to graduating high school and getting away from the craziness that was high school.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:59:27am

re: #226 lawhawk

Remember that photo when people claim that NYC has gone to shit. Subways are running in good shape (for most part). Graffiti is largely absent from subways, crime is down significantly, and the city’s economy is one of the biggest drivers of the US economy.

But GOP is stuck on the Escape from NY dystopic vision of NYC. They will never get past that moment in time.

Admitting NYC is running fairly smoothly and is not a hellhole is admitting that Democrats and minorities are capable of being good citizens and running a large city efficiently.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:59:48am

January 1980—I was working a short detail at Met Life’s processing center in Johnstown PA…staying at the Sheraton…training their team on processing Medicare Part A Hospital claims…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:03:23am

re: #225 wrenchwench

re: #226 lawhawk

One of the greatest photos taken in NYC, I believe sometime in the late 1970s…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:03:23am

Jan80—Half way through my tour with US Forces Korea. “Married with Four”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:07:27am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

New York Rules—It’s Christmas season as soon as Santa’s sleigh crosses the reviewing stand for the Macy’s parade.

Much the same in Germany: the season starts with the First Sunday in Advent (which comes late this year as Christmas Eve is Fourth Advent as it falls on a Sunday.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:08:18am

re: #223 Decatur Deb

Then there are the year-round Christmas stores in Florida.

That was started by Käthe Wolfarth in Rothenburg ob der Tauber in Germany, now she has affililates all over the country.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:09:19am

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

Willy Spiller, and that photo is from 1978.

I remember taking the bus or train with Catholic high school girls, and boy was I in trouble. /half

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:10:04am

re: #230 PhillyPretzel ✅

January 1980. I was looking forward to graduating high school and getting away from the craziness that was high school.

I was studying at Arizona State University in Tucson, living in a student slum and generally enjoying things.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:10:17am

re: #237 lawhawk

Willy Spiller, and that photo is from 1978.

I remember taking the bus or train with Catholic high school girls, and boy was I in trouble. /half

It’s a great photo. That could be an album cover.

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wrenchwench  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:11:47am

re: #239 Dr Lizardo

It’s a great photo. That could be an album cover.

I was sure it was a band I never heard of.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:13:36am

re: #225 wrenchwench

January, 1980.

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Summer 1979. She was 14, I was 16 and we’re dating again 😉

(Her momma’s still PO’d at me 😈)

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:13:50am

re: #227 goddamnedfrank

What the hell is going on in India? A government employee plotting to ASSASSINATE a political foe? This isn’t how democracies function.

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sagehen  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:15:21am

re: #225 wrenchwench

January, 1980.

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we’ve cleaned the subways since then.

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wrenchwench  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:17:44am

re: #243 sagehen

we’ve cleaned the subways since then.

So I’ve heard. I’d like to make it back for a day….

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:17:47am

January 1980: I wasn’t even an idea yet.

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A Cranky One  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:18:37am

re: #245 Nerdy Fish

Get off my lawn!

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wrenchwench  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:20:07am

I am headed west, on foot, for my re-orientation at my friendly northwest Kroger affiliate. See you in a few hours, when I am OKd to head east.

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:37:09am

re: #215 Joe Bacon ✅

If this crackpot was your Dad would you call him at all?

“Tomorrow will mark the 4th Thanksgiving beginning in 2020 that I have not heard from any of my 4 children (from 3 different marriages),” Wood posted on his Telegram channel. “Tomorrow is also my youngest son Charlie’s 35th birthday. I have not heard from him on his birthday in 4 years beginning in 2020.”

Old poker adage: if you look at the players at the table and can’t figure out who the sucker is, it’s you.

If all your adult children want nothing to do with you, the problem isn’t with them, it’s with you.

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dat_said  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:37:22am

I forget who here has a spouse dealing with severe migraines but just wanted to post an update on the pivotal trial of a new therapy (from a start-up I helped during their early days): prnewswire.com

They’ve had 7 patients so far in Australia get past the trial phase (multiple phases in the pivotal trial - assessment, temporary trial, permanent implant, ambulatory). I wish they could release a little more data, so I don’t know if 7 patients means 7 out of 7 are moving from trial to permanent or if it’s 7 out of 100 but, I assume, it’s closer to 7 out of 7 found some relief with the trial implant and are moving forward with the permanent implant.

This is an invasive procedure and not trivial but could be very life-changing for some if the theory translates into real-life improvement. Chronic migraine is defined as 15 headache days a month for at least three months. Try to imagine how debilitating it can be to have severe headaches half of your days where sunlight or noise or smells just takes you down likely resulting in nausea and vomiting and depression and anxiety - no way you can handle work or plan on taking care of the grandchildren.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:43:19am

re: #242 Patricia Kayden

What the hell is going on in India? A government employee plotting to ASSASSINATE a political foe? This isn’t how democracies function.

Theocratic ethno-nationalism, it’s on the rise everywhere and Modi’s government just stands out because they’re a bit ahead of the curve.

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Captain Ron  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:49:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:50:14am

re: #245 Nerdy Fish

January 1980: I wasn’t even an idea yet.

Neither was I (born late ‘81)

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Nojay UK  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:50:27am

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

I’m horrified! Is that an advert for the Demon Nicotine on the wall of the carriage?

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:50:41am

re: #251 Captain Ron

Good. I am happy to hear that.

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:53:59am

33 seconds on the mini x-word
blew the connections like a dog.
fishy little par in wordle

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:54:40am

re: #5 Captain Magic

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Captain Magic  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:55:46am

re: #216 William Lewis

I used to love listening to classical music, but I’m essentially deaf, requiring the use of a cochlear implant in order to hear anything.

That’s one of the reasons my mental health isn’t so good.

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BadgerB  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:57:58am

re: #215 Joe Bacon ✅

“Tomorrow will mark the 4th Thanksgiving beginning in 2020 that I have not heard from any of my 4 children (from 3 different marriages),” Wood posted on his Telegram channel. “Tomorrow is also my youngest son Charlie’s 35th birthday. I have not heard from him on his birthday in 4 years beginning in 2020.”
rawstory.com

I’m probably reading too much into the detail but who expects their child to call THEM on the child’s birthday? Isn’t he supposed to be calling his son to wish him a happy birthday?

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:58:44am

re: #184 PhillyPretzel ✅

I can believe it. My late mom liked to tell the stories of the “party” lines and how she was able to get a “private” line in the mid ‘50’s.

We still had a party line with the across the street neighbors until maybe ‘77 or ‘78. I was half way through high school by the time we finally got our own number. The old party line number is now the number of the guy across the street that shared our number’s business phone number.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:59:07am

re: #257 Captain Magic

I used to love listening to classical music, but I’m essentially deaf, requiring the use of a cochlear implant in order to hear anything.

That’s one of the reasons my mental health isn’t so good.

I would fear blindness like that. {{{{Captain Magic}}}}

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:03:20am

re: #248 sizzzzlerz

Old poker adage: if you look at the players at the table and can’t figure out who the sucker is, it’s you.

If all your adult children want nothing to do with you, the problem isn’t with them, it’s with you.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:05:22am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:07:30am

re: #262 PhillyPretzel ✅

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:10:09am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:10:34am

re: #259 Eventual Carrion

We still had a party line with the across the street neighbors until maybe ‘77 or ‘78. I was half way through high school by the time we finally got our own number. The old party line number is now the number of the guy across the street that shared our number’s business phone number.

I recall moving to Malibu in 1978, and having a party line shared with the other 3 “units”, and it was considered an antique anachronism even then. But back then, Malibu was still thought of as “the country”…

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gocart mozart  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:11:40am
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dat_said  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:12:02am

re: #248 sizzzzlerz

Old poker adage: if you look at the players at the table and can’t figure out who the sucker is, it’s you.

If all your adult children want nothing to do with you, the problem isn’t with them, it’s with you.

People do not like to admit the problem is them. It’s much easier delude yourself and blame {colleges, liberals, music, LQBTQ, taco trucks on every corner, Anti-fa, “that” girl, “those” people, …}

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Vicious Babushka  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:21:24am

Mastodon

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:21:33am

re: #144 Nerdy Fish

I had a real hard time with this one.

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So did I. Took forever!

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Wordle 893 3/6

⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜
⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜
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Group: 3,3,4,4

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:22:07am

re: #219 BeachDem

another favorite of mine—often wrong; never in doubt.

Long time caller, first time listener.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:22:17am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:23:44am

re: #271 Dave In Austin

That’s getting into Batshit territory.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:23:51am

re: #271 Dave In Austin

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Biden’s in charge of hostages and yet they try to paint him as weak and feeble minded?

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:23:52am

re: #271 Dave In Austin

That is the biggest load of &*?! I have heard in a long time.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:26:31am

re: #230 PhillyPretzel ✅

January 1980. I was looking forward to graduating high school and getting away from the craziness that was high school.

In January 1980 I was in Baytown Texas. My buddy and I had hitchhiked down and we were both working at a McDonalds and looking for better jobs.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:28:28am

January of 1980 I was in the fourth grade.

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Dangerman  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:30:49am

re: #186 Joe Bacon ✅

An unregulated Louisiana group for Christian homeschoolers sells diplomas for $465

And you don’t need to take any classes at all thanks to the Louisiana legislature!

friendlyatheist.com

those kids will eventually hate what their parents did to them

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:31:08am

re: #275 Eventual Carrion

In January 1980 I was in Baytown Texas. My buddy and I had hitchhiked down and we were both working at a McDonalds and looking for better jobs.

In January 1980 I boarded a DC 10 wearing a JC Penny suit and tie as a skinny 15 year old headed to the Fiji Islands for a year of foreign exchange. Upon landing I learned how tropical heat was different from the dry heat of home.

My host parents took my suit and said I was welcome to wear it for my return flight at the end of my year. I left it behind.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:36:09am

re: #276 Belafon

January of 1980 I was in the fourth grade.

January of 1980: living in a high rise across from the Lincoln Park farm in the zoo, with a great view of the lake, working in downtown Chicago, and dating an actuary my parents hated because he was even more introverted than me. It was 3 months before meeting the man who would become my husband.

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:36:55am

re: #272 Decatur Deb

That’s getting into Batshit territory.

Beyond batshit… it’s victim abuse.

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dat_said  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:40:00am

BBC News: US says it foiled alleged plot to assassinate Sikh activist in New York

Instead, the indictment says, he was introduced to an undercover law enforcement officer who said he would assassinate the target for $100,000 (£79,000).

When you post a job for “hitman” on Indeed, how many of the applicants will be FBI?

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:40:31am

re: #280 darthstar

Beyond batshit… it’s victim abuse.

MAGAts and those who support them are all sociopaths.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:41:57am

re: #281 dat_said

BBC News: US says it foiled alleged plot to assassinate Sikh activist in New York

When you post a job for “hitman” on Indeed, how many of the applicants will be FBI?

ALL OF THEM, KATIE!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:44:29am

re: #272 Decatur Deb

That’s getting into Batshit territory.

OK but what if Hunter Biden is like that character from Heroes who’d get really high and then make precognitive paintings of future events? Gotta admit that’d be a great plot twist.

CLICK HERE TO FIND HORNY HUNG WIZARDS IN YOUR AREA!

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:44:41am

re: #283 Nerdy Fish

ALL OF THEM, KATIE!

My all time favorite Sarah Palin quote.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:48:00am

re: #227 goddamnedfrank

Same thing happened up here in Canada not long ago.

The Indian response to Canada complaining about it was at first, “Liar!” and then, “Watcha gonna do about it.”

The Canadian response was, “We’re not,” and, “Not much,”

There isn’t much we could do but that didn’t stop our wingnuts from using the whole thing to bash Trudeau.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:51:05am

Duran Duran just dropped a new video.

Duran Duran - Black Moonlight (Official Music Video)

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:51:07am

What changed from last week to this?

Thanksgiving and the fact that everyone traveled and saw family and gas prices were down.

If you don’t think that matters, you’re not paying attention. We are more attuned to gas prices than most anything else, so if the gas prices drop, people think we’re doing better.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:51:54am

re: #242 Patricia Kayden

What the hell is going on in India? A government employee plotting to ASSASSINATE a political foe? This isn’t how democracies function.

India hasn’t been a democracy for a while now.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:53:21am

re: #265 Jay C

I recall moving to Malibu in 1978, and having a party line shared with the other 3 “units”, and it was considered an antique anachronism even then. But back then, Malibu was still thought of as “the country”…

We were in rural bumfuck Pennsylvania. The closest “big city” wasn’t even that huge (which happened to be where WrenchWench’s late husband grew up I believe). But we were 20 miles outside of that in the farm lands.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:53:34am

re: #288 lawhawk

Gas was 2.62 here yesterday.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:54:01am

re: #285 darthstar

My all time favorite Sarah Palin quote.

Not coincidentally, also probably the most intelligent thing she ever said.

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:55:23am

re: #291 Decatur Deb

Gas was 2.62 here yesterday.

I saw 4.99 and got a little hard.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:55:41am

re: #289 Romantic Heretic

India hasn’t been a democracy for a while now.

Or, y’know, maybe it is a democracy and there’s nothing intrinsic about a democracy that protects from tyranny of the majority.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:56:07am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

Duran Duran just dropped a new video.

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Video

Who are these old farts in their video?

(lolololololololololo … )

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:56:45am

re: #271 Dave In Austin

Holy shit! They’re not even pretending to pretend anymore.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:57:57am

re: #293 darthstar

I saw 4.99 and got a little hard.

? Artisanal hi-test in cut-glass bottles?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:58:55am

re: #295 William Lewis

LOL - yeah, it took me a second to realize that Rio was released 41 years ago.

They still sound good, though. Nice dance number.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:00:25am
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Romantic Heretic  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:02:03am

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

When a democracy gets to that point it will stop being a democracy. The majority will make sure all opposition to it is crushed.

Humans may talk about freedom and democracy, but they much prefer power and autocracy.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:05:06am

re: #298 Dr Lizardo

LOL - yeah, it took me a second to realize that Rio was released 41 years ago.

They still sound good, though. Nice dance number.

I was in Germany in the Army and my BFF sent me a letter (!) telling me about this new video “Hungry Like the Wolf”. That was wild. Then came “Save a Prayer” which I really loved even more but Rio blew all to pieces. Rio and Borderlands changed the way I looked a certain type of dance music…

But because I loved it and it’s less well remembered now…

Duran Duran - Save A Prayer (Official Music Video)

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:07:05am

re: #300 Romantic Heretic

When a democracy gets to that point it will stop being a democracy. The majority will make sure all opposition to it is crushed.

Humans may talk about freedom and democracy, but they much prefer power and autocracy.

Technically, doesn’t democracy just mean that governmental decisions reflect the will of the majority? Does it imply anything about the treatment of minorities in the population? Or about rights of the citizenry, other than voting on decisions for the nation?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:13:00am

re: #301 William Lewis

“Hold Back the Rain” is one of my fave cuts off Rio.

Hold Back the Rain (2009 Remaster)

Also, “The Chauffeur” (might be NSFW)

Click to Reveal

Duran Duran - The Chauffeur (Official Music Video)

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:13:51am

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:14:54am

Not my usual choice of subject, but I’d like to draw your attention to the gold-handled toilet brush.

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Randall Gross  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:16:38am

cyber.harvard.edu

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:17:44am

re: #303 Dr Lizardo

Put “The Chauffeur” behind a NSFW tag. I’d forgotten about that, it’s been so long since I saw the video.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:24:04am

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Captain Magic  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:36:07am

re: #303 Dr Lizardo

The cover album artist for “Rio” also did many Intel ads during that period using the similar theme of having women drawn for the ad.

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:36:40am

re: #259 Eventual Carrion

We still had a party line with the across the street neighbors until maybe ‘77 or ‘78. I was half way through high school by the time we finally got our own number. The old party line number is now the number of the guy across the street that shared our number’s business phone number.

Our party line experience was up to 1967, or so when we moved into a new house and got a private line. That was in the days where our phone number began with 2 letters (REx-xxxx and no area code was necessary.

Party lines to children was like catnip to a feline.

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Semper Fi  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:38:46am

re: #222 lawhawk

Costco rules: It’s Christmas season the moment Costco trots out the Christmas stuff at their stores.

That always happens during the last week of August.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Nov 29, 2023 • 11:01:07am

re: #305 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Where are you NOW??

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Nov 29, 2023 • 12:10:14pm

re: #312 HRH Stanley Sea

Where are you NOW??

I’m at home, but the photo is from Milan.


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