The Bob Cesca Podcast: Washing Money Like a Kenmore

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Washing Money Like A Kenmore — NSFW; It’s another Bob Cesca Show Roundtable to discuss the Michael Cohen testimony in the House Oversight Committee; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here today; Jody Hamilton from the Stephanie Miller Show is here, too, and of course the great David ‘TRex’ Ferguson of the TRex Report podcast joins us for our first ever four way show coming to you from Washington, DC, Georgia, Florida and Los Angeles.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2019 • 2:54:44pm

The fucking lot of ‘em….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2019 • 2:55:36pm

I don’t know who the hell Gary Abernathy is but he has some bullshit op-ed in the WaPo right now titled “Why a higher wall will lower crime”.

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2019 • 2:57:50pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2019 • 2:58:18pm
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TedStriker  Feb 28, 2019 • 2:59:03pm

re: #3 jaunte

Sen. Marsha Blackburn has taken the CPAC stage. This is what these have been like for the past 20 minutes or so. pic.twitter.com

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) February 28, 2019

My Senator…

*faceplants into desk*

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2019 • 2:59:51pm

re: #5 TedStriker

The audience has faded away into drink venues.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:00:35pm

re: #3 jaunte

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So…empty?

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:02:04pm

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re lining up for a mile outside! The Fire Marshal won’t let anyone else in!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:02:17pm

re: #6 jaunte

The audience has faded away into drink venues.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:03:41pm

re: #8 jaunte

They’re lining up for a mile outside! The Fire Marshal won’t let anyone else in!!!

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Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:04:40pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:06:39pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Gary Abernathy is publisher and editor of Ohio’s Hillsboro Times-Gazette, a newspaper that endorsed Trump for President. He is a Republican who supports party over all and was an effort by the Washington Post to include the views of Trump supporters in their columns. You know because major newspapers must hire columnists and publish their views no matter how dishonest or racist they may be.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:08:55pm

re: #3 jaunte

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I wonder how many more CPACs there will be?

Damn I hope that crap is dying out.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:09:13pm
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Citizen K  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:09:41pm

Late to this, but…

Here’s the problem: It isn’t clever…but it’s effective. It’s effective because the media has been conditioned to report every single goddamn motherfucking utterance by a GOPer at face value and give it immediate credence. So when these assholes try to pull the reverse racism card…it’s treated as the most valid and crucial of concerns even when the initial, well-founded accusation of racism to begin with was pooh-poohed to fuck and back.

So the point isn’t to be clever: it’s to work. And it does, because that’s where the fuck we are in this country.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:10:41pm

re: #14 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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He won’t resign.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:12:00pm

re: #12 Hecuba’s daughter

Gary Abernathy is publisher and editor of Ohio’s Hillsboro Times-Gazette, a newspaper that endorsed Trump for President. He is a Republican who supports party over all and was an effort by the Washington Post to include the views of Trump supporters in their columns. You know because major newspapers must hire columnists and publish their views no matter how dishonest or racist they may be.

Southern Ohio Appalachia country. Prime Trump territory.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:12:41pm

re: #14 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Is there ANYONE who thinks Jared will actually resign over this? Or that the GOP will do anything other than bitch about secret information being made public?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:12:57pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:15:44pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Franklygoddamn
@goddamnedfrank
Am busy imagining the extremely calm reactions from conservatives if we learned that President Hillary Clinton had ordered her chief of staff to give her corrupt son-in-law a top secret clearance over the strenuous objections of career White House security professionals & the CIA

5:11 PM - Feb 28, 2019]

How would she have time? The GOP would have impeached her during her first month in office and would have refused to confirm any nominations she made to any office.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:15:46pm

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

The fucking lot of ‘em….

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:21:10pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

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Hillary would’ve have been allowed to have Marc and Chelsea in the administration let alone get Marc a ckearence. Yet another example of the right’s bullshit standards. And Chelsea unlike Princess Ivanka knows a thing or two about politics:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:22:30pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know who the hell Gary Abernathy is but he has some bullshit op-ed in the WaPo right now titled “Why a higher wall will lower crime”.

Words spoken by someone ignorant of immigration and crime who thinks he has “common sense solutions.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:23:07pm

Nope, you’ll have to drag Jared kicking and screaming out of the White House if you want to get rid of him.

As long as Trump is President, Kushner and Ivanka are bulletproof.

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gwangung  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:24:03pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Words spoken by someone ignorant of immigration and crime who thinks he has “common sense solutions.”

“Common sense” solutions always have GIGO problems.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:24:10pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Words spoken by someone ignorant of immigration and crime who thinks he has “common sense solutions.”

His argument was basically: “White people in the midwest recognize they came from immigrant families so they have nothing against illegal immigration.”

Sure, unless the people immigrating are “Those people”.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:25:37pm

re: #25 gwangung

“Common sense” solutions always have GIGO problems.

Yeah I always roll my eyes when someone insists it’s just “common sense.” Whether it’s the wall or bathroom laws.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:26:45pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

His argument was basically: “White people in the midwest recognize they came from immigrant families so they have nothing against illegal immigration.”

Sure, unless the people immigrating are “Those people”.

I don’t believe that for a second honestly because so many white people have forgotten their immigrant roots. They do when they freak out over Spanish being spoken in businesses. A wall is just an awful awful idea

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gwangung  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:27:11pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

His argument was basically: “White people in the midwest recognize they came from immigrant families so they have nothing against illegal immigration.”

Sure, unless the people immigrating are “Those people”.

Folks need to be up front and honest. The whole concept of “illegal immigration” began because the white US didn’t want non-whites in this country. Period.

And the twits haven’t bothered to changed their arguments (or even the wording) in 160 years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:27:19pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

Hillary would’ve have been allowed to have Marc and Chelsea in the administration let alone get Marc a ckearence. Yet another example of the right’s bullshit standards. And Chelsea unlike Princess Ivanka knows a thing or two about politics:

Honest to god, I once saw someone post:

2016-2024: DJT
2024-2032: Don Jr.
2032-2040: Ivanka
2040-2048: Barron

They were SERIOUS. They saw it as a GOOD THING.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:27:21pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

Nope, you’ll have to drag Jared kicking and screaming out of the White House if you want to get rid of him.

As long as Trump is President, Kushner and Ivanka are bulletproof.

Yeah they ain’t going anywhere unless they’re arrested.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:28:31pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Yeah they ain’t going anywhere unlesstil they’re arrested.

Fixeded

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:28:59pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

Honest to god, I once saw someone post:

They were SERIOUS. They saw it as a GOOD THING.

Why not just make the US a fucking monarchy if you really think that’s a good idea. But uh Eric gets skipped in this scenario huh. And no way would Don let Don Jr who thinks is an idiot replace him, he’d have the apple of his eye do it, the product of his incestuous fantasies, Ivanka.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:29:10pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

Fixeded

We can only hope.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:29:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:32:58pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I really want to see them in jail. They’re both criminals. Of all the Trumps though, Ivanka disgusts me the most because she tries to sell herself as a humane and more kind version of herself when she’s just as nasty and vindictive as Daddy, her asshole husband, and her piece of shit younger brothers Don Jr and Eric.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:39:14pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

Honest to god, I once saw someone post:

They were SERIOUS. They saw it as a GOOD THING.

Was this a real person or a Russian bot? Even my RW brother who loves Trump doesn’t see any of his family as successors to his regime.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:41:53pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

Honest to god, I once saw someone post:

They were SERIOUS. They saw it as a GOOD THING.

But remember how bad the Clinton dynasty of a husband and wife would have been.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:42:07pm

re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White

Is there ANYONE who thinks Jared will actually resign over this? Or that the GOP will do anything other than bitch about secret information being made public?

I am going with a Trumpian: “it’s too late now, he already has seen everything so why kick him out, he’s doing great work saving the world.”

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:46:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:48:00pm

re: #40 Belafon

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Oliver North should be afraid of Hispanic women after the shit he did in his career. The fact that scumbag is still a hero in right wing circles over 30 years later is really telling.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:49:54pm

And just to verify what they think of her:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 3:59:43pm

re: #37 Hecuba’s daughter

Was this a real person or a Russian bot? Even my RW brother who loves Trump doesn’t see any of his family as successors to his regime.

Could have been a real person reposting something from a bot.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:00:34pm

Do you know what really scares me? With the Democratic field being so crowded, it is actually possible that Bernie can scoop up the nomination the same way Trump scooped up the GOP nom in 2016, just because of name recognition. I hope that doesn’t happen, but if it does then Putin will own both major party candidates and probably also the Greens and Libertarians.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:01:24pm

Welp, if everything goes according to plan, on April 12th Michele will become my legal name. Once that happens, then the real “fun” begins.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:06:31pm

re: #44 The Vicious Babushka

Do you know what really scares me? With the Democratic field being so crowded, it is actually possible that Bernie can scoop up the nomination the same way Trump scooped up the GOP nom in 2016, just because of name recognition. I hope that doesn’t happen, but if it does then Putin will own both major party candidates and probably also the Greens and Libertarians.

The one difference between us and the GOP is that our delegates are rewarded proportionality, not winner take all.

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Man, DangerMan  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:07:54pm

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

The fucking lot of ‘em….

NEW: Trump ordered Kelly to grant Kushner a top-secret clearance last year, overruling concerns flagged by intel officials and Don McGahn. While Trump has the right legally, raises big concerns. Huge scoop by @maggieNYT @nytmike @anniekarni @adamgoldmanNYT

the important point about this story is not that the president overruled the more experienced and better informed intel officials

like he was saying something like “it’s ok, i know him, i vouch for him”

it’s that he was saying “i dont care what you found”

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William Lewis  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:07:58pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

Nope, you’ll have to drag Jared kicking and screaming out of the White House if you want to get rid of him.

As long as Trump is President, Kushner and Ivanka are bulletproof.

New York State courts indictments will penetrate that kevlar… ;)

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William Lewis  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:11:23pm

re: #45 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Welp, if everything goes according to plan, on April 12th Michele will become my legal name. Once that happens, then the real “fun” begins.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:16:23pm

re: #6 jaunte

The audience has faded away into drink venues.

And seeking out the, erm, local talent.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:17:57pm
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:19:36pm

re: #51 Patricia Kayden

That is one very sweet bunny.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:23:19pm

re: #49 William Lewis

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:25:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:33:33pm

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:33:45pm

The birds:

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:40:34pm
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:41:48pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

He is starting to look a little worn out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:43:13pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:45:50pm

re: #56 Belafon

The birds:

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I’ve seen that movie. Next thing you know, Suzanne Pleshette gets her eyes plucked out.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:46:58pm

re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White

That happened in “The Omen,” too. Freaked me out when I was six.

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Man, DangerMan  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:48:06pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

After 7.5 hours behind closed doors today, Michael Cohen will return to the House Intel Committee on March 6 because there’s “more to discuss.”

remember yesterday when i think AOC asked cohen who else the committee should be talking to?

House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings (D-MD) said that the panel will seek to interview several of the people that Michael Cohen mentioned during his six-hour testimony, including President Trump’s children Don Jr. and Ivanka, as well as Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, Axios reports.

(though they arent actually ‘children’ any more)
they’re adults who likely broke one or many laws

via politicalwire.com

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:48:30pm

re: #45 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Welp, if everything goes according to plan, on April 12th Michele will become my legal name. Once that happens, then the real “fun” begins.

I hope all goes well for you.

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:49:50pm

re: #45 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Welp, if everything goes according to plan, on April 12th Michele will become my legal name. Once that happens, then the real “fun” begins.

‘Bubblehead III’ ?

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Citizen K  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:50:00pm

The anniversary of Trayvon Martin’s death was a couple days ago. And as far beyond as using it as a learning moment as possible, it seems like even more people have decided that he was some superthug monster that deserved it than even then, and that his very existence was one of criminality. Zimmerman may not be a hero anymore, but they still treat Trayvon Martin as the most deserved self-defense ever.

That’s the key to white supremacy and the myth of inherent black criminality: It doesn’t matter that they win long as you lose. It doesn’t matter if the heroes stay heroes long as the villains continue to get treated as villains.

The backslide continues to feel like forever.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that it feels like half the people still feel like the greatest racism in the entire thing was Obama’s ‘if I had a son, he would have looked like Trayvon’ line. Just…fuck all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:50:19pm

re: #61 Ace Rothstein

That happened in “The Omen,” too. Freaked me out when I was six.

What? Suzanne Pleshette had her eyes plucked out in ANOTHER movie?
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piratedan  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:52:06pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

tbh, I get the feeling that the line from Star Wars back in 77 when Obi Wan mentions what Mos Eisley is like to Luke, is quite possibly the only apt description of the Trump Administration we’re ever going to need.

Mos Eisley

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:53:47pm

re: #67 piratedan

Yes. I feel the same. George Lucas has a way with words and pictures. :)

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:55:54pm

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

He is starting to look a little worn out.

Trying to come clean in front of the world and discussing how you helped a corrupt president can do that to you I would imagine. Yikes.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:56:39pm
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:58:19pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

I hope all goes well for you.

Thanks.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Feb 28, 2019 • 4:59:02pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

‘Bubblehead III’ ?

Nah. The nick will remain the same.

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piratedan  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:00:56pm

re: #70 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

yeah, please don’t elaborate on who had actual questions of import and who was just verbally masturbating in front of the nation, because who would be served by information like that?

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Skip Intro  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:02:25pm

re: #67 piratedan

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:03:16pm

re: #70 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:04:04pm

The mention of Kim’s armored train the other day reminded me of Strelinikov’s train from Dr. Zhivago:

Il treno di Strelnikov - Strelnikov’s train - Il Dottor Zivago

I might, just might, consent to be dictator if, and only if, I could have my own armored train. It would have to be drawn by a monstrous red steam locomotive fueled by confiscated MAGA caps and scrap lumber from demolished McMansions. Rollin’ coal, baby!

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:09:02pm

re: #48 William Lewis

New York State courts indictments will penetrate that kevlar… ;)

Be still my hardened heart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:09:11pm

I googled it…Oriental Shorthair

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:09:42pm

1) Jared needed to submit an SF 86 to get clearance.
2) Jared omitted information on first submission (a felony).
3) Jared resubmitted, again with omissions (additional felonies).
4) Jared should not have gotten clearance as per rules in place at time.
5) Trump overruled the decision (he has right, but again shows 25A rationale for removal, to say nothing of impeachment for high crimes and exposing nation to threats by undermining US natsec by giving someone who has no right to be anywhere near classified info top secret clearance).
6) Kelly and others wrote contemporaneous statements warning about this, but did nothing.
7) Kelly and those others violated their oaths of office by allowing/enabling Trump to circumvent the rules to put his family in these positions because it undermines natsec.
8) Trump doesn’t care about the rules, and always projects like IMAX when it comes to his actions. When he breaks the law, he claims others are doing it. When he complains about Hillary’s emails, he’s signaling that he’s doing it and more. When he complains about national security and the intel community, it’s because he’s ignoring national security and our intel community.

Trump shows an absolute disregard for opsec, natsec, and proper handling of classified info. Giving Jared (and Ivanka) clearance is proof.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:10:34pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

Beautiful kitty.

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Man, DangerMan  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:10:59pm

re: #70 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

GUYS, the nyt found the #BothSides angle to Cohen hearing;

r’s and d’s both asked questions:

dems questions eliciting information
r’s about cohen’s being a liar and a felon

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:11:21pm

re: #76 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Only if I’ve got Julie Christie to come home to…

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KGxvi  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:12:44pm

re: #40 Belafon

I wonder if she has to claim rent free living in their heads as income for tax purposes? Like if an employer includes living accommodations?

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:13:35pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Another one I’ve been encountering recently is “If you were honest.”

Because, apparently, only dishonest people can disagree with wingnuts.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:13:40pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I googled it…Oriental Shorthair

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:14:15pm

re: #83 KGxvi

I wonder if she has to claim rent free living in their heads as income for tax purposes? Like if an employer includes living accommodations?

Seriously I’ve never seen a freshman get this much fear before.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:15:25pm

re: #84 Romantic Heretic

Another one I’ve been encountering recently is “If you were honest.”

Because, apparently, only dishonest people can disagree with wingnuts.

Haven’t seen that one. But sounds right. They have a lot of stupid buzz phrases.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:16:35pm

They will always find a reason to cast stunning defeat as glorious victory. Saw this on my old archery/bowhunting forum today, regarding Trump’s failed summit:

Pulled a Reaganesqe move by not signing something just to get a deal.

Showed great sight of forethought and courage to say , no deal is better than a bad deal.

Stunning really.

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Interesting Times  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:16:38pm

I’ve been rather leery of a Joe Biden run, but this ratchets it up from “meh” to HELL TO THE NO:

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:16:52pm

re: #45 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

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KGxvi  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:17:56pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Seriously I’ve never seen a freshman get this much fear before.

Not in the House. In the Senate there was a sense of Hillary’s inevitable run in 2001, but they’d already had a decade of scaring themselves

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:20:14pm

re: #89 Interesting Times

I’ve been rather leery of a Joe Biden run, but this ratchets it up from “meh” to HELL TO THE NO:

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Yeah I’m sorry Mr. Vice President. I like and respect you but no Mike Pence is not that. If he was, he wouldn’t have used his position as Indiana’s governor to make life hell for LGBT people and women who wanted to get abortions. I know you came of age in an era when Republicans weren’t all raging assholes but Mike Pence is scum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:20:18pm

my surprise, etc…

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:20:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:20:48pm

re: #91 KGxvi

Not in the House. In the Senate there was a sense of Hillary’s inevitable run in 2001, but they’d already had a decade of scaring themselves

Even then but we had a pretty big event in 2001 that took up a lot of our attention that year too.

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piratedan  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:21:40pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

she has performed exceptionally well, apologized for her missteps, still looks like she’s willing to learn and take advice. Prepares well, still is working for her folks at home and apparently has few fucks to give for those that see her as a threat because of who THEY represent.

If you review her work in the Cohen questioning…

she’s on point…
verifies the local ties for her district with her line of questioning
gets Cohen to identify who has the receipts that he doesn’t have
brings up the idea of insurance fraud AND tax evasion
Doesn’t feel the need to burnish her own rep with covering ground already handled and then gives up the remainder of her time

all done in less than 5 minutes…

what’s not to admire or enjoy?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:21:58pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

my surprise, etc…

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I haven’t really had too many unplanned celeb encounters. I was in Dulles the same day that Papadopoulis was arrested though.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:22:48pm

re: #96 piratedan

she has performed exceptionally well, apologized for her missteps, still looks like she’s willing to learn and take advice. Prepares well, still is working for her folks at home and apparently has few fucks to give for those that see her as a threat because of who THEY represent.

If you review her work in the Cohen questioning…

she’s on point…
verifies the local ties for her district with her line of questioning
gets Cohen to identify who has the receipts that he doesn’t have
brings up the idea of insurance fraud AND tax evasion
Doesn’t feel the need to burnish her own rep with covering ground already handled and then gives up the remainder of her time

all done in less than 5 minutes…

what’s not to admire or enjoy?

Yeah I really admire her. Her detractors think she’s a stupid and naive kid but I think she’s really bright.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:25:02pm

re: #94 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Tom Davis isn’t terrible for a Republican but he’s still a Republican.

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EPR-radar  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:25:37pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m sorry Mr. Vice President. I like and respect you but no Mike Pence is not that. If he was, he wouldn’t have used his position as Indiana’s governor to make life hell for LGBT people and women who wanted to get abortions. I know you came of age in an era when Republicans weren’t all raging assholes but Mike Pence is scum.

Biden appears to not get the fundamental truth of US politics today, which is that the Republican party is a cesspit of Satan.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:27:17pm

re: #100 EPR-radar

Biden appears to not get the fundamental truth of US politics today, which is that the Republican party is a cesspit of Satan.

It’s one of the most frustrating things about him to be honest.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:28:03pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

my surprise, etc…

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I saw Vince Vaughn at O’Hare. Three day stubble, looked very hungover, being shuttled on one of those golf carts things - folded all up, like his knees to his chin folded up - probably being taken to the Admiral’s Club.

He’s VERY tall… around 6’5”.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:28:59pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Yeah I really admire her. Her detractors think she’s a stupid and naive kid but I think she’s really bright.

Her detractors just need to watch some of yesterday’s Cohen hearing if they really want a demonstration for stupidity and naivety. The Republican side of the room had a lot of it. And some of those folks have served for a few terms. Dimbulbs all of ‘em.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:29:23pm

I mean I get it. Biden came of political maturity in the Cold War but it’s a different era. I don’t need him to call Pence an asshole but he’s not a good man and with respect Mr. Vice President, he never gave Obama that respect or even yourself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:29:40pm

the moron managed to find his way back…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:30:58pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

the moron managed to find his way back…

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Pass.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:31:51pm

re: #103 ObserverArt

Her detractors just need to watch some of yesterday’s Cohen hearing if they really want a demonstration for stupidity and naivety. The Republican side of the room had a lot of it. And some of those folks have served for a few terms. Dimbulbs all of ‘em.

They’re just clueless about her. She’s going to do well at this. I am glad we haven’t heard her “fan” crap on here in awhile.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:32:24pm

re: #103 ObserverArt

Her detractors just need to watch some of yesterday’s Cohen hearing if they really want a demonstration for stupidity and naivety. The Republican side of the room had a lot of it. And some of those folks have served for a few terms. Dimbulbs all of ‘em.

Alas. The Public is also GO TEAM GO.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:32:59pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Pass.

Hard. Fucking. Pass.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:33:32pm

re: #109 MsJ

Hard. Fucking. Pass.

I’d rather watch Peppa Pig.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:35:25pm

it’s a regular dictators parade this week

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:35:46pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

I’d rather watch Peppa Pig.

I’d rather comb my crotch.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:36:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:36:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:36:34pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s a regular dictators parade this week

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This is why we know you’re full of shit when you act like Maduro is the worst thing since ever. If you had any actual integrity, you’d call out this murderous scumbag too.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:37:03pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

I mean I get it. Biden came of political maturity in the Cold War but it’s a different era. I don’t need him to call Pence an asshole but he’s not a good man and with respect Mr. Vice President, he never gave Obama that respect or even yourself.

I don’t want Joe B. to run, said it many times.

By I would take him over Bernard any day.

Put him with a younger Dem and I’d take it over anything Berner.

Biden & Beto. The Killers Bees!

Again, if we had to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:37:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:38:44pm

re: #116 ObserverArt

I don’t want Joe B. to run, said it many times.

By I would take him over Bernard any day.

Put him with a younger Dem and I’d take it over anything Berner.

Biden & Beto. The Killers Bees!

Again, if we had to.

I’d take him over Bernie too. But I really think it’s not to be with him. I like him and I do hope he is consulted for advice by the next administration because he has a lifetime of knowledge and wisdom to impart but I think Biden should step aside. I don’t think that will be the case though.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:39:06pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They of course are correct.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:40:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:43:40pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:45:07pm

re: #116 ObserverArt

I don’t want Joe B. to run, said it many times.

By I would take him over Bernard any day.

Put him with a younger Dem and I’d take it over anything Berner.

Biden & Beto. The Killers Bees!

Again, if we had to.

Please No Bernie — No Tulsi. And as much as I like him, Buttigieg is too inexperienced and unknown for President and probably VP.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:45:44pm

CPAC bartender humor, y’all.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:46:35pm

Harris/O’Rourke I would be excited to vote for.

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EPR-radar  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:46:50pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hannity interviews Trump on Fox News because Trump’s testicles aren’t going to cozy themselves.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:47:35pm

re: #123 makeitstop

CPAC bartender humor, y’all.

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Hey, they know their present clientele.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:48:14pm

re: #123 makeitstop

CPAC bartender humor, y’all.

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Oh.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:49:03pm

re: #122 Hecuba’s daughter

Please No Bernie — No Tulsi. And as much as I like him, Buttigieg is too inexperienced and unknown for President and probably VP.

I see Buttigieg as a future cabinet member.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:49:48pm

re: #124 GlutenFreeJesus

Harris/O’Rourke I would be excited to vote for.

I’d like that ticket. I like the idea of pairing O’Rourke with Klobuchar or another popular Midwestern Democratic woman too.

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piratedan  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:50:08pm

re: #123 makeitstop

if you’re working for tips, you have to play to your audience, can’t blame them for trying to work the crowd to their benefit.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:50:20pm

re: #102 MsJ

I’ve seen a bunch of folks, from Jerry Seinfeld doing an AMEX commercial to Hugh Laurie while filming Stuart Little 2. The Mrs… however… has bumped into everyone from Jamie Foxx to Oprah to her topper: Beyonce and Blue Ivy in an elevator where she made funny faces with Blue Ivy (who was a mere baby at the time).

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:50:39pm

re: #124 GlutenFreeJesus

Harris/O’Rourke I would be excited to vote for.

Yes indeedy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:51:19pm

I like Booker too. He’s slowly been moving up my list.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:51:58pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

Enough to impeach Trump? I hope so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:52:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:52:32pm

re: #131 lawhawk

I’ve seen a bunch of folks, from Jerry Seinfeld doing an AMEX commercial to Hugh Laurie while filming Stuart Little 2. The Mrs… however… has bumped into everyone from Jamie Foxx to Oprah to her topper: Beyonce and Blue Ivy in an elevator where she made funny faces with Blue Ivy (who was a mere baby at the time).

Both of my brothers have met former NFL QB Joe Theismann on a couple occasions. The funny thing with my youngest brother is we had just watched a game that he broadcasted so he recongized his voice immediately. It was at a Jersey Mike’s.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:53:23pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

my surprise, etc…

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“What’s the most accurate celebrity sighting you’ve ever had? Mine’s a tie between Sam Rockwell with an armful of DVDs in Mondo Kim’s and Richard Kind looking haggard on the M15”

I haven’t seen many, and this may not qualify, but it was once when running on a relatively empty street in downtown Bloomington, IN and I saw Dave Attell on the opposite side of the intersection fire up a cigarette and start crossing in my direction; just before we passed he dropped his cigarette pack and I turned and said, “hey, you dropped your smokes” and he said “so I did” and picked them up and walked on smoking away.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:53:33pm

And I guess this is different but my cousin’s uncle in law has been a personal friend of David Gilmour’s for years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:54:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:54:36pm

re: #137 Barefoot Grin

“What’s the most accurate celebrity sighting you’ve ever had? Mine’s a tie between Sam Rockwell with an armful of DVDs in Mondo Kim’s and Richard Kind looking haggard on the M15”

I haven’t seen many, and this may not qualify, but it was once when running on a relatively empty street in downtown Bloomington, IN and I saw Dave Attell on the opposite side of the intersection fire up a cigarette and start crossing in my direction; just before we passed he dropped his cigarette pack and I turned and said, “hey, you dropped your smokes” and he said “so I did” and picked them up and walked on smoking away.

I liked his show when I was a kid. I was obviously way too young for barhopping but I liked how he went around to city to city mingling with people. Dave seems like a pretty down to earth guy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:55:16pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

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For a bunch of people who insist they’re wronged, they do a terrible job of convincing people who aren’t Republican hacks that they’re innocent.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:55:26pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

I liked his show when I was a kid. I was obviously way too young for barhopping but I liked how he went around to city to city mingling with people. Dave seems like a pretty down to earth guy.

Yeah, it was twilight. I’m sure he was just getting up and getting ready to do a stand up gig.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:56:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:56:17pm

re: #142 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, it was twilight. I’m sure he was just getting up and getting ready to do a stand up gig.

Wouldn’t doubt it.

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wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:57:50pm

re: #131 lawhawk

I’ve seen a bunch of folks, from Jerry Seinfeld doing an AMEX commercial to Hugh Laurie while filming Stuart Little 2. The Mrs… however… has bumped into everyone from Jamie Foxx to Oprah to her topper: Beyonce and Blue Ivy in an elevator where she made funny faces with Blue Ivy (who was a mere baby at the time).

I walked into a book store in Zurich, Switzerland, and there was Andy Warhol. He was having a book signing. I couldn’t buy a book, so I didn’t get in line. A month later, I was told he would sign a dollar, or a $20, or what have you, but it was a little late.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:58:08pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Wayne’s World - We’re Not Worthy!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 5:59:58pm

re: #146 lawhawk

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My cousin’s husband is a sound engineer for Pink Floyd. Awesome, awesome guy. Very down to earth. Pink Floyd records in an old barge owned by Charlie Chaplin. My cousin’s husband rides his bike there every day. When I was in London a few years back, I got to check out the barge. Didn’t get to meet Dave unfortunately. Same cousin went to school with Patton Oswalt. My family members have cooler celeb connections than I do.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2019 • 6:02:08pm

The last time we went to see Bob Dylan, my wife ended up sitting next to Donald Fagen. The venue kept bringing his wife Libby drinks, and she kept trying to give them to my wife.

We didn’t bug him during the show, but when we were on the way out I shook his hand and told him I was a big fan. He thanked me.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2019 • 6:02:09pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

Both of my brothers have met former NFL QB Joe Theismann on a couple occasions. The funny thing with my youngest brother is we had just watched a game that he broadcasted so he recongized his voice immediately. It was at a Jersey Mike’s.

I was in a flight with Sammy Sosa. He was exiting first class while I was waiting to exit coach. He was within an arms reach.

He’s MASSIVE. I had no idea baseball players were that freaking big. Like football player big. Really tall and really thick. I’d put him at 6’3 or 4” and a good, solid 260 pounds.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 6:03:34pm

re: #149 MsJ

I was in a flight with Sammy Sosa. He was exiting first class while I was waiting to exit coach. He was within an arms reach.

He’s MASSIVE. I had no idea baseball players were that freaking big. Like football player big. Really tall and really thick. I’d put him at 6’3 or 4” and a good, solid 260 pounds.

Yeah he was built more like a football player. Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays,, those guys? They probably were smaller than I am. I’m about 6 even just under 210.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 6:04:09pm

Oh and I know we rag on the Eagles but my Dad did see them before they were famous in Aspen and had a beer with Henley.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2019 • 6:04:33pm

My best celeb sighting - I was at the Hard Rock in Manhattan one night, and I was trying to find the bathroom. I walked around a corner and literally walked into the middle of a conversation between BB King and Les Paul. I excused myself. Lester was cranky, BB was as gracious as could be.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2019 • 6:14:51pm

re: #149 MsJ

I was in a flight with Sammy Sosa. He was exiting first class while I was waiting to exit coach. He was within an arms reach.

He’s MASSIVE. I had no idea baseball players were that freaking big. Like football player big. Really tall and really thick. I’d put him at 6’3 or 4” and a good, solid 260 pounds.

Didn’t Sammy have issues with steroids? I don’t know if he was ever caught but there was a lot of conjecture. Could be why he appeared so thick.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 6:16:51pm

re: #153 ObserverArt

Didn’t Sammy have issues with steroids? I don’t know if he was ever caught but there was a lot of conjecture. Could be why he appeared so thick.

I don’t know if it was ever confirmed one way or the other but he was defintely suspected.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2019 • 6:18:11pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the kids I coached in house league basketball gets drafted by a MLB team this spring. I assume he’ll take his scholarship and go from there but he’s got baseball talent.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Feb 28, 2019 • 6:22:13pm

re: #90 Hecuba’s daughter

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gocart mozart  Feb 28, 2019 • 6:27:38pm
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BeachDem  Feb 28, 2019 • 8:11:02pm

re: #123 makeitstop

CPAC bartender humor, y’all.

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The Stephen Miller is perfect


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