The Bob Cesca Podcast: Baton Rouge! Baton Rouge!

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Baton Rouge! Baton Rouge! — [Explicit Language] Reasons for optimism this week. IMF predicts big drop in inflation soon. The Florida gubernatorial debate between Ron DeSantis and Charlie Crist. DeSantis freezes when challenged on whether he’ll serve a 4-year term. DeSantis isn’t ready for prime time, and more people agree with Bob. Trump threatens reporters with prison rape. Trump told Bob Woodward that he’d roll out a COVID plan after it was too late. Michael Cohen agrees with Bob that Trump will not run. Larry Kudlow’s prediction about Liz Truss. Steve Bannon sentenced to 4 months in prison. With Buzz Burbank, music by Dave Molter, Matt Springfield, and more!

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William Lewis  Oct 25, 2022 • 1:59:56pm

Ok, try again…

Dad joke I just saw:

If your company requires you to change your password every 90 days, just use the name of the current UK Prime Minister and you’ll be fine.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:01:03pm

Brought up from downstairs

“The Biggest Hypocrite in Congress” Award

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:04:25pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:04:46pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:05:47pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:06:34pm

Wordle 493 5/6

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜
🟩⬜🟨⬜⬜
🟩⬜⬜⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:06:35pm

The Beatles - Yellow Submarine (Songwriting Work Tape / Part 1)

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A Cranky One  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:22:52pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Skullduggery

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:23:45pm

Waukesha trial. He has his chance now to issue his closing argument. But he’s just arguing with the judge. This isn’t going to go well for him. He’s pushing for contempt.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:24:02pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle wants to get off this fucking roller coaster.

Click to Reveal

A new starting word paid off. Just missed the 🦅.

Wordle 494 3/6

⬛🟨🟨⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SibData: 3,3,3,5,5

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:26:37pm

re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus

Is he representing himself? If not, his lawyer must be fucking thrilled right about now.

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:26:49pm

This looks very familiar to any fan of the original show.

The NEW Doctor Who Logo! | Doctor Who

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:29:24pm

re: #8 A Cranky One

Skullduggery

Skulduguppery!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:32:39pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

He is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:33:55pm

he man was clearly annoyed that he was being taken to task for his actions, he clearly saw himself doing nothing wrong.

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A Cranky One  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:36:23pm

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A Cranky One  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:37:17pm

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:39:27pm

re: #15 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he man was clearly annoyed that he was being taken to task for his actions, he clearly saw himself doing nothing wrong.

“I’m gonna Alpha-Male my way out of this.”

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Dangerman  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:52:17pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

um, erm

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Dangerman  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:54:21pm

re: #8 A Cranky One

Skullduggery

tusk, tusk.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:56:39pm

Decided to give DALL-E a try, since I’m playing with NightCafe.

DALL-E is similar but also quite different. The online version has no knobs to twiddle, though I have not explored the extent that the prompt can offer control.

So I did my not-an-easy-noun bit, throwing Rev 19:3 extract at DALL-E, to see what it could do with just part of that verse.

Of the four images it provided, this is the best IMO:

It’s not a bad attempt.

The NightCafe Coherent image I think we all thought worked well, for comparison:

These AI thingies are going to be the end of us.

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:58:05pm
Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, is no longer a billionaire, according to Forbes.

This comes after Adidas announced it ended its partnership with the “DONDA” rapper after he made controversial and antisemitic comments.

While the partnership doesn’t count for all of Ye’s wealth, it did play a huge part.

The Yeezy designer is now worth $400 million without the Adidas deal, Forbes reported. The publication valued the deal at $1.5 billion.

Kanye West dropped from Forbes billionaire list: report (WGN-Chicago)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:58:24pm

re: #21 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As I use them, their limitations become more and more apparent. There are some things they just don’t “get”.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:58:31pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:59:04pm

re: #21 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

These AI thingies are going to be the end of us.

They occupy the Uncanny Valley of creativity

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Dangerman  Oct 25, 2022 • 2:59:39pm

re: #24 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

if rand speaks does anyone hear it?

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:02:35pm

re: #24 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:03:34pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

Which is why I’m trying prompts that are abstract concepts, to see how I can discern how the AI has been programmed.

Supposedly millions of images are fed into the machine.

But image selection has biases.

This is discussed by the Google Imagen project, whose output is stunning but Google won’t make the AI available to the public. Their stated reason is that they don’t want it to be used for the wrong reasons:

There are several ethical challenges facing text-to-image research broadly. We offer a more detailed exploration of these challenges in our paper and offer a summarized version here. First, downstream applications of text-to-image models are varied and may impact society in complex ways. The potential risks of misuse raise concerns regarding responsible open-sourcing of code and demos. At this time we have decided not to release code or a public demo. In future work we will explore a framework for responsible externalization that balances the value of external auditing with the risks of unrestricted open-access. Second, the data requirements of text-to-image models have led researchers to rely heavily on large, mostly uncurated, web-scraped datasets. While this approach has enabled rapid algorithmic advances in recent years, datasets of this nature often reflect social stereotypes, oppressive viewpoints, and derogatory, or otherwise harmful, associations to marginalized identity groups. While a subset of our training data was filtered to removed noise and undesirable content, such as pornographic imagery and toxic language, we also utilized LAION-400M dataset which is known to contain a wide range of inappropriate content including pornographic imagery, racist slurs, and harmful social stereotypes. Imagen relies on text encoders trained on uncurated web-scale data, and thus inherits the social biases and limitations of large language models. As such, there is a risk that Imagen has encoded harmful stereotypes and representations, which guides our decision to not release Imagen for public use without further safeguards in place.

Finally, while there has been extensive work auditing image-to-text and image labeling models for forms of social bias, there has been comparatively less work on social bias evaluation methods for text-to-image models. A conceptual vocabulary around potential harms of text-to-image models and established metrics of evaluation are an essential component of establishing responsible model release practices. While we leave an in-depth empirical analysis of social and cultural biases to future work, our small scale internal assessments reveal several limitations that guide our decision not to release our model at this time. Imagen, may run into danger of dropping modes of the data distribution, which may further compound the social consequence of dataset bias. Imagen exhibits serious limitations when generating images depicting people. Our human evaluations found Imagen obtains significantly higher preference rates when evaluated on images that do not portray people, indicating a degradation in image fidelity. Preliminary assessment also suggests Imagen encodes several social biases and stereotypes, including an overall bias towards generating images of people with lighter skin tones and a tendency for images portraying different professions to align with Western gender stereotypes. Finally, even when we focus generations away from people, our preliminary analysis indicates Imagen encodes a range of social and cultural biases when generating images of activities, events, and objects. We aim to make progress on several of these open challenges and limitations in future work.

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nines09  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:04:16pm

re: #27 Crush White Nationalism

I still want to buy his neighbor a beer.

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nicdanger  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:05:35pm

re: #19 Dangerman

Ditto…

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Dangerman  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:06:40pm

re: #30 nicdanger

Ditto…

indeed

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:06:49pm

re: #29 nines09

I still want to buy his neighbor a beer.

He’d prefer that you buy him a house. He lost his over the incident and still owes Paul money. It turned out very badly for him with a $580,000 award to Rand Paul.

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nines09  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:07:32pm

re: #32 Crush White Nationalism

That sucks. Did not know that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:11:20pm

re: #28 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Interesting. Imagen is an AI video tool.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:13:10pm

DALL-E’s interpretation of the simple prompt “evil Christian theocracy”:

Not too bad, but also rather simple. The prompt needs to be much more elaborate to direct the AI to go down any particular style path.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:13:37pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

[Embedded content]

As Q foretold.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:15:26pm

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

Interesting. Imagen is an AI video tool.

Sounds like a real life application of CRT — They are concerned about institutional racism that has been built into this tool.

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:15:31pm

re: #28 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Which is why I’m trying prompts that are abstract concepts, to see how I can discern how the AI has been programmed.

Supposedly millions of images are fed into the machine.

But image selection has biases.

This is discussed by the Google Imagen project, whose output is stunning but Google won’t make the AI available to the public. Their stated reason is that they don’t want it to be used for the wrong reasons:

We talk about how humans aren’t born racist/sexist, but have to be taught. A lot of these attempts at creating ML systems without bias show us clearly though that normal exposure to a limited set of inputs imparts an inherent bias that has to be overcome. We might be able to consciously force ourselves to override our defaults, but in general, it will take more than just “Don’t be racist.”

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:19:41pm

re: #35 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

DALL-E’s interpretation of the simple prompt “evil Christian theocracy”:

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Not too bad, but also rather simple. The prompt needs to be much more elaborate to direct the AI to go down any particular style path.

Stark image

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:20:26pm

re: #38 Belafon

One thing that both religionists and libertarian free-will-ers dearly want is to believe that we humans have the ability to freely chose what we think and do.

Biology, OTOH, suggests that we are shaped by both our DNA and by our environment.

I am not confident that we actually have free will. Our reactions are from our programming, a programming that was built by a truly vast amount of information that went into shaping our brain.

The common sci-fi trope of people transferring themselves into another body is a denial of biology. It’s an attempt to rescue the “soul” idea.

We don’t occupy our brain, we are our brain (and the rest of the body.)

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:21:17pm

re: #21 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

These AI thingies are going to be the end of us.

Nah. They still lack will.

When someone gives it to them, then we’re done.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:23:26pm

re: #39 Eventual Carrion

Stark image

It struck me as impressive that the AI came up with the phrase “the god before good” since that phrase (nor the word “good”) is not part of Rev 19:13.

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:23:36pm

re: #40 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One thing that both religionists and libertarian free-will-ers dearly want is to believe that we humans have the ability to freely chose what we think and do.

Biology, OTOH, suggests that we are shaped by both our DNA and by our environment.

I am not confident that we actually have free will. Our reactions are from our programming, a programming that was built by a truly vast amount of information that went into shaping our brain.

The common sci-fi trope of people transferring themselves into another body is a denial of biology. It’s an attempt to rescue the “soul” idea.

We don’t occupy our brain, we are our brain (and the rest of the body.)

That’s how I see it. One big chain of cause and effect from the big bang to my making this post.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:25:39pm

re: #37 Hecuba’s daughter

Sounds like a real life application of CRT — They are concerned about institutional racism that has been built into this tool.

Remember the Twitter bot that the racists reduced to a flaming bigot in less that 24 hours?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:26:06pm

re: #43 Crush White Nationalism

That’s how I see it. One big chain of cause and effect from the big bang to my making this post.

At the very smallest level of existence, elementary particles, randomness may truly be the trait that the universe has.

It’s our only hope that we are not just machines.

But it’s a weak hope, and the randomness of very tiny things is not something we can control.

So the randomness that is inherent in the electrons going between our synapses really may be the only non-deterministic thing about our sentience.

But this randomness, being not controlled, hardly qualifies as “free will”.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:26:58pm

re: #43 Crush White Nationalism

We are not thinking machines that feel. We are feeling machines that think. - Antonio DiMassio

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:28:31pm

re: #44 Romantic Heretic

Remember the Twitter bot that the racists reduced to a flaming bigot in less that 24 hours?

Microsoft shuts down AI Chatbot after it turned into a Nazi

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:28:43pm

re: #46 Romantic Heretic

We are not thinking machines that feel. We are feeling machines that think. - Antonio DiMassio

I’ve seen that tightened up to “man is a rationalizing animal.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:28:59pm

re: #44 Romantic Heretic

Remember the Twitter bot that the racists reduced to a flaming bigot in less that 24 hours?

But wasn’t that due to a deliberate effort by racists to infect it, rather than an exploration of an existing database?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:30:17pm

re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus

And there he goes. “I made peace with god.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:30:43pm

Hah, DALL-E thinks “Absquatulate” violates its content policy.

Which it does not.

I don’t know what the AI thinks absquatulate means.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:31:34pm

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Hah, DALL-E thinks “Absquatulate” violates its content policy.

Which it does not.

I don’t know what the AI thinks absquatulate means.

It doesn’t mean squat.

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:32:05pm

re: #49 Hecuba’s daughter

But wasn’t that due to a deliberate effort by racists to infect it, rather than an exploration of an existing database?

Yes. The article talks about that.

You can make a chatbot into anything you want it to be, and they’ll get better over time. At some point most of the “people” on social media may be software meant to influence conversation with no human operator needed.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:33:12pm

re: #40 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As an article in Foreign Policy noted a couple of decades ago, the idea of free will is absolutely necessary for a workable system of ethics.

Otherwise the best we can do is, “It can’t be helped.”

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:35:41pm

re: #45 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

At the very smallest level of existence, elementary particles, randomness may truly be the trait that the universe has.

It’s our only hope that we are not just machines.

But it’s a weak hope, and the randomness of very tiny things is not something we can control.

So the randomness that is inherent in the electrons going between our synapses really may be the only non-deterministic thing about our sentience.

But this randomness, being not controlled, hardly qualifies as “free will”.

You can’t look at a single neuron and determine the function of the whole collection. Getting lost in how to define free will based on our (incomplete) understanding of the quantum level of the universe is a folly direction to go. It would be like defining a Monet by one dot made.

It’s pretty obvious, based on the behavior of other organisms that the number and arrangement of the neurons in our head imparts something. It allows for abstract thought far beyond the other animals. It also allows for our own self-destruction in ways that no other animal seems to have.

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KGxvi  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:36:28pm

re: #12 Crush White Nationalism

This looks very familiar to any fan of the original show.

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Video

They’ve been really tying into the past lately. The special that just aired this weekend had Tegan and Ace working with UNIT. Also had cameos for Ian Chesterton, Jo Grant, and Mel Bush.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:37:03pm

re: #43 Crush White Nationalism

That’s how I see it. One big chain of cause and effect from the big bang to my making this post.

What a long, strange trip it’s been

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EPR-radar  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:37:48pm

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

As an article in Foreign Policy noted a couple of decades ago, the idea of free will is absolutely necessary for a workable system of ethics.

Otherwise the best we can do is, “It can’t be helped.”

Free will is a real paradox — civilization depends on assuming it, but literally the best justification that it is real is Goddidit, which is pitiful.

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:42:12pm

re: #56 KGxvi

They’ve been really tying into the past lately. The special that just aired this weekend had Tegan and Ace working with UNIT. Also had cameos for Ian Chesterton, Jo Grant, and Mel Bush.

It was amazing to see Ian again after all these years.

Sophie said that it was really hard to keep the secret that she was coming back as Ace. I expect it was the same for every one of the returning actors.

It’s weird that U.N.I.T. is back after it was disbanded, but I’m not complaining.

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KGxvi  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:47:19pm

re: #59 Crush White Nationalism

It was amazing to see Ian again after all these years.

Sophie said that it was really hard to keep the secret that she was coming back as Ace. I expect it was the same for every one of the returning actors.

It’s weird that U.N.I.T. is back after it was disbanded, but I’m not complaining.

I’m really curious what they’re going to do for the 60th specials. It looks like the Noble family will be back, but I feel like they’re going to have plenty more people show up since it’s going to be three episodes.

I was only vaguely aware of the original series and even now, haven’t really watched it, just sort of relied on google to fill in holes in cannon and find a few clips here and there.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:50:11pm

DALL-E is quite restrictive in what one can put in the prompt, by way of people or objects. For example, it objected to me prompting for a person smoking opium.

Also note: DALL-E was originally funded by libertarian dude-bro Elon Musk, and though he resigned from the board he still has his money in it.

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:51:56pm
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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:52:34pm

re: #61 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And ARPANET was full of DOD funding.

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A Cranky One  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:58:44pm

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

We were at the estate attorney today. Our will wasn’t free.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 25, 2022 • 3:59:00pm

re: #62 Belafon

JFC

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:01:31pm

re: #62 Belafon

re: #65 Ace Rothstein

For me it is Fetterman and Shapiro because they will get things done and not fill time with stupid resolutions like making people who are already registered to vote re-register.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:02:14pm

Along the Merrimack today

Behind the tree in the foreground are the smokestacks from the Bow coal-fired power plant.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:05:26pm

For comparison, this shows the towers in the background.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:07:05pm

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

You want me to feed that image into the Stable Diffusion AI and see what the AI wants to do with it?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:09:13pm

re: #69 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

You want me to feed that image into the Stable Diffusion AI and see what the AI wants to do with it?

Sounds cool.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:09:26pm

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

At least you have trees and water.

Here, we got about a sixth of an inch of rain so far in October.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:11:12pm

re: #69 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

You want me to feed that image into the Stable Diffusion AI and see what the AI wants to do with it?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:11:13pm

re: #71 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

At least you have trees and water.

Here, we got about a sixth of an inch of rain so far in October.

We are only in light-to-moderate drought and get semi-regular rain. South of us in Mass in some places they are actually in near extreme drought.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:12:56pm

re: #70 Barefoot Grin

Sounds cool.

Your picture, plus the prompt “a photo of a river in autumn, with trees with autumn leaves”, four variations:

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:13:50pm

re: #74 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Your picture, plus the prompt “a photo of a river in autumn, with trees with autumn leaves”, four variations:

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Whoa, that’s amazing. Thank you. But in the bottom right one I would have had to walk the dog under those trees. She would insist.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:14:50pm

re: #75 Barefoot Grin

I think the lower left one works best. The AI sort of stumbled on some things in the others.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:16:21pm

re: #76 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I think the lower left one works best. The AI sort of stumbled on some things in the others.

I agree with how it puts foreground in focus.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:21:50pm

Just got done voting in NW Travis County. Polls were NOT busy.

It’s going to happen again.

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:22:01pm
The latest Doctor Who special, The Power of the Doctor, aired this past weekend on BBC One, and while the 90-minute special had plenty to make Whovians happy, none were happier than former cast members Janet Fielding and Sophie Aldred, who returned to the landmark sci-fi series for the first time in more than 30 years. In an interview with Radio Times (via Comic Book Resources), Fielding and Aldred admitted they got very emotional, to the point of tears, when they learned they would reprise their classic roles once more.

Fan-Favorite Doctor Who Stars Cried When Asked To Return To The Series (Giant Freakin Robot)

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:26:28pm

Good thread, sorry if it has been posted previously:

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:26:55pm

Robert “Sorbo” Beltran. Disappointing.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:29:48pm

The new Guillermo del Toro horror series on Netflix is awesome. “Cabinet of Curiosities.” Can recommend.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:30:24pm

re: #81 Crush White Nationalism

Robert “Sorbo” Beltran. Disappointing.

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He claimed it was a joke between mates, but it sounded more like “I’m sick of politics and a pox on both houses” to me.

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:31:59pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:44:56pm
While Dawson did not name West as the specific reason for the donations, the organization’s mentioned all support groups that West has recently targeted with hate speech. In recent weeks, West has worn a shirt that read “White Lives Matter” and made numerous antisemitic comments, which has led brands like Balenciaga, Gap and Adidas to distance themselves from the artist and entrepreneur.

Management for Dawson declined to comment further on the post.

Dawson has worked as West’s primary engineer for nearly two decades, beginning with West’s debut studio album, The College Dropout, in 2003. He has worked on eight of West’s albums, securing Grammy wins for 2005’s Late Registration, 2007’s Graduation and 2010’s My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Dawson’s last credited work with West was the song “Heaven and Hell” off 2021’s Donda.

Kanye West’s Longtime Engineer Andrew Dawson Donating Royalties to Jewish Organizations (Billboard via MSN)

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:45:02pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:48:01pm

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

He claimed it was a joke between mates, but it sounded more like “I’m sick of politics and a pox on both houses” to me.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 4:54:48pm

They May Have Love on Their Lizard Brains

An accumulation of scientific research suggests that there’s a lot more to the social lives of reptiles.

By Hannah Thomasy
Oct. 24, 2022

Ned and Sunny stretch out together on the warm sand. He rests his head on her back, and every so often he might give her an affectionate nudge with his nose. The pair is quiet and, like many long-term couples, they seem perfectly content just to be in each other’s presence.

The couple are monogamous, which is quite rare in the animal kingdom. But Sunny and Ned are a bit scalier that your typical lifelong mates — they are shingleback lizards that live at Melbourne Museum in Australia.

In the wild, shinglebacks regularly form long-term bonds, returning to the same partner during mating season year after year. One lizard couple in a long-term study had been pairing up for 27 years and were still going strong when the study ended. In this way, the reptiles are more like some of the animal kingdom’s most famous long-term couplers, such as albatrosses, prairie voles and owl monkeys, and they confound expectations many people have about the personalities of lizards.

“There’s more socially going on with reptiles than we give them credit for,” said Sean Doody, a conservation biologist at the University of South Florida.

Social behavior in reptiles has been largely overlooked for decades, but a handful of dedicated scientists have begun unraveling reptiles’ cryptic social structures. With the help of camera traps and genetic testing, scientists have discovered reptiles living in family groups, caring for their young and communicating with each other in covert ways. And they aren’t only doing this because they love lizards. Currently, one in five reptile species are threatened with extinction; researchers say learning more about reptile sociality could be crucial for conservation.

Humans have a long history of animosity toward reptiles, and influential twentieth century scientists added to the idea of reptiles as cold, unintelligent beasts. In the mid-1900s, Paul MacLean, a neuroscientist at Yale and then the National Institute of Mental Health, began developing the triune brain hypothesis. He theorized that the human brain contained three parts: the reptilian R-complex, which governed survival and basic instinctual behaviors; the paleomammalian complex, which controlled emotional behavior; and the neomammalian cortex, which was responsible for higher functions like problem-solving and language.

Dr. MacLean’s ideas were popularized in Carl Sagan’s “The Dragons of Eden” in 1977, and they are deeply rooted — the idea of the “lizard brain” as a center for basic survival instincts is still widely believed, even though it is not based on actual facts.

“It’s pretty much totally bogus,” said Stephanie Campos, a neuroethologist at Villanova University.

A shingleback lizard with yellow and black scales sits atop stony ground, its head pointed to the sky with its mouth open and tongue sticking out.
Shingleback lizards in Australia can form bonds lasting for decades of mating seasons.Credit…Museums Victoria

Gordon Burghardt, an ethologist at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, who has studied animal behavior for more than 50 years, said that many scientists, even herpetologists, were blinded by their biases, believing that social behaviors “can’t occur in these animals, therefore you’re not seeing what you’re seeing.”

Even without our cultural biases, reptiles can be difficult to study.

“A lot of them are pretty shy,” said Allison Alberts, a conservation scientist and co-founder of the Iguana Specialist Group at the International Union for Conservation of Nature. She added that “They’re so sensitive to when a person’s there. They just freeze — they will not do some of their normal social interactions when a person’s around.”

Many forms of interaction between reptiles are also invisible.

“Chemical communication plays a huge role,” said Julia Riley, a behavioral ecologist at Mount Allison University in New Brunswick, Canada. “And that’s something you can’t even see and it’s very hard to sample from the environment as well.”

Yet despite these prejudices and difficulties, researchers are starting to unveil the complex social worlds of these creatures.

One of the most fascinating discoveries of reptile social behavior — long-term monogamy in shingleback lizards like Ned and Sunny — happened entirely by accident.

Michael Bull, the Australian biologist who made the discovery, was initially less focused on lizards and more interested in studying the different species of ticks that lived on them. Beginning in 1982, he would capture shinglebacks, mark them, take various measurements, then release them. After several years (and thousands of lizards), he noticed that each spring, after months apart, the same males and females would somehow manage to find each other.

Shingleback courtship is perhaps not the most romantic by human standards.

“The male will trail the female around for a number of weeks, often a few months, and defend that female from any other male that tries to encroach,” said Jane Melville, senior curator of terrestrial vertebrates at Museums Victoria Research Institute in Australia. Males have also been seen allowing their mates to eat first, she said.

Actually, this last behavior is a good move for males of a number of species. Another lizard species, the Central American whiptail, has been observed offering a potential partner a lovely dead frog to eat before mating.

But shingleback love stories don’t always have happy endings. “It’s very tragic,” said Martin Whiting, a behavioral ecologist at Macquarie University in Sydney, Australia. “Occasionally, they get squashed on the road and the other one will be nudging it. And then it’s very difficult for them to pair up again.”

Dr. Whiting said the lizards can remain with their dead partners for quite some time, continuing to nudge their lifeless bodies. Could this be similar to the quasi-mourning behaviors observed in primates and cetaceans?

While we can’t definitively say that these lizards grieve, Dr. Whiting said, “I would certainly say we can’t discount that certain species that have that strong pair bond might.”

Despite the bond between mating pairs, shinglebacks are not the most attentive parents. Shinglebacks give live birth to two or three enormous babies (which can weigh nearly half a pound each, while adults top out at around 2 pounds), and shortly afterward, mother and offspring go their separate ways.

Other species are more caring parents. In many species of crocodilians for example, females will guard their nests, keeping their eggs safe from predation. Some baby crocodilians begin to vocalize even before hatching, and scientists think this may cause the mother to dig up the nest and carry the babies to the water.

The gray head of a baby crocodile with its mouth open pokes out from a white eggshell.
The sounds made by baby crocodiles in their eggs may prompt their mothers to dig them up and carry them to water.

Initially, according to Vladimir Dinets, a zoologist at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, human observers misunderstood this behavior. “It was originally thought that crocodiles and alligators were incredibly dumb,” he said. When the females dug up the babies and took them “into their jaws, they assumed that they were just cannibalizing them.”

Crocodilians continue to vocalize after hatching, emitting “contact calls,” which may help facilitate group cohesion. Hatchlings also produce distress calls, which attract mothers, presumably for protection.

Another much-maligned creature, the rattlesnake, may also display surprising social habits and family ties: Genetic analysis has revealed that pregnant females prefer to associate with kin, hinting at the potential importance of family groupings. Parental care, at least initially, seems to be important as well.

“Rattlesnakes give birth to live young,” said Melissa Amarello, executive director of Advocates for Snake Preservation. “The females and the babies stay together at least until the babies start shedding their skin for the first time, which seems to happen one to two weeks after they’re born.”

While the mother’s presence alone is likely a deterrent for predators, Ms. Amarello said she had also observed instances of mother snakes exhibiting defensive behavior when potential threats approached her offspring. Research has also shown that pygmy rattlesnakes are more responsive to threats when they are with their offspring when compared with females without babies.

A group of rattlesnakes with large brown spots on their bodies sit coiled together atop grass. As many as five snakes’ heads can be seen in coils.
Pregnant rattlesnakes gather in groups, and younger females seem to get the job of minding other snakes’ offspring.Credit…All Canada Photos/Alamy

Ms. Amarello said that when female snakes spend their pregnancy together, the one who is still pregnant may stay close to the offspring of the snake who has already given birth. “After seeing this now over so many years with the Arizona black rattlesnakes, it’s usually the younger females that are stuck being pregnant and ‘babysitting,’” she said.

Family living also occurs in a handful of lizards in the Scincidae family, or skinks (which includes shingleback lizards like Ned and Sunny). A three-year-long imaging study only recently revealed the devotion of Cunningham skink mothers. In one case, a female skink was basking with her family when a snake appeared near their crevice.

The female, according to Dr. Riley, “runs forward, grabs the Eastern brown snake, shakes it, and then makes sure it goes away from the crevice.”

She added, “Now that is clearly an act of parental care,” one that is a great personal risk on the mother’s part, as Eastern brown snakes have one of the most toxic venoms of any snake on the planet.

Social abilities have other benefits. Many species have demonstrated their ability to learn from one another, a phenomenon called social learning. Even the red-footed tortoise, a species which is thought to be largely solitary, can learn how to obtain a food reward by watching a fellow tortoise perform the task. Some reptiles, such as the Italian wall lizard, also can learn from other species.

Does this seem like it might be too much for a tiny lizard brain? Scientists like Dr. MacLean gave lizard intellect a bad rap, but reptile brains and mammal brains really aren’t all that different.

When comparing reptile and mammal brains, “a lot of the regions are very similar to what we have,” said Dr. Campos, who studies chemical communication in lizards. Many of the brain regions that are important for social behavior in mammals, she says, are also involved in reptile interactions.

A green lizard in profile atop a branch, its red throat pouch expanded.
Research in anoles suggests hormones play a role in courtship and communication similar to what has been observed in mammals.Credit…ZUMA Press Inc/Alamy Stock

In mammals, vasopressin and oxytocin play important roles in social behaviors, and reptiles have structurally similar hormones called vasotocin and mesotocin. Although the reptilian versions have received relatively little attention, there are intriguing early studies about how they regulate reptile sociality.

Dr. Campos’s research indicates that vasotocin may alter chemical communication between green anole lizards, and other researchers found that mesotocin may be related to courtship behaviors in brown anoles. When researchers blocked the activity of vasotocin in pygmy rattlesnake mothers, they strayed farther from their babies, suggesting this hormone may influence maternal behavior.

Learning more about reptiles’ social structures could be essential for saving species from the brink of extinction.

For example, headstarting programs are attempting to bolster wild populations of critically endangered Caribbean rock iguanas by raising baby iguanas in captivity and releasing them when they’ve grown large enough to avoid being eaten by invasive predators like cats and mongooses.

While some factors involved in the success of such programs have been well-studied, Dr. Alberts said, social factors have been relatively overlooked. That leads to questions like, “How many should we release at the same time? Should they all be released at the same site?” she said. “This is where I feel like some of these social considerations and understanding them better could go into improving the success of the program.”

A pale greyish-green lizard looks out from a crack in a large brown and green rock.
Researchers are studying how social behaviors affect restoring Caribbean iguanas to the wild. Credit…Panther Media GmbH/Alamy

Social information also may be important for rattlesnake reintroductions. Early research suggests chemical cues from other snakes may be very important for guiding behavior. Timber rattlesnakes, for example, can follow the scent trails of fellow rattlesnakes out of a maze, and they have been shown to select prey ambush sites based on the smell of a snake that had recently fed.

Jeff Smith, director of research at Advocates for Snake Preservation, said the social information these smells provide may aid survival. “The way that the scents can be written on the landscape provides juveniles with kind of a cheat sheet for navigating the world,” he said, adding that smells potentially helping young snakes find places to hunt, to hide from predators or to spend the winter.

Understanding reptiles’ capacity for sociality also could be helpful in other ways. “Reptiles in general face great persecution — snakes in particular, but also crocodilians and a lot of lizards as well,” Dr. Riley said.

People may develop more empathy for these animals if they come to understand that they are social creatures, too.

“If we can open this secret social world of reptiles to people, maybe people will think twice about killing a snake or a lizard and maybe will find some value in these animals that people oftentimes just discount as creepy, or worse,” Dr. Riley said.

In simple terms, she added, “we don’t conserve what we don’t care about.”

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:00:25pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:05:53pm

RUN-DMC - My Adidas

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:07:10pm

re: #44 Romantic Heretic

Remember the Twitter bot that the racists reduced to a flaming bigot in less that 24 hours?

I also remember the Imposter Bot that outed nazis masquerading as minorities, and Twitter suspended it for “HARASSMENT” (of the poor widdle nazis)

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mmmirele  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:08:25pm

Well, I was infuriated today, so I let this dude have it. And why yes, Sean is the son of Josh McDowell, who published the incredibly bad “Evidence That Demands A Verdict,” an Evangelical apologetic staple of the last third of the 20th century. The book referenced was published in *2020*.

I know that when I go at something all swords and fire, I leave no room for compromise. But some things, like this, are just not worth compromising over. Sean McDowell promised things that have not and will not happen in this world, and he needs to, as I wrote in a later tweet, apologize, remove the book, sit in sackcloth and ashes and stop harassing consenting adults.

The terrible thing is McDowell leads the Bible department at Capistrano Valley Christian Schools, so he’s spreading this garbage among teens who do not need to hear this.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:13:24pm

re: #92 mmmirele

It sounds like you’re just another angry atheist.

///

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JC1  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:14:35pm

Fetterman is shaky so far. Not a great performance, IMHO.

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William Lewis  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:14:52pm

re: #92 mmmirele

Excellent thread. I’m at work so I can’t upding the.tweets but wanted you to know I read and appreciated it.

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ipsos  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:16:41pm

re: #94 JC1

Fetterman is shaky so far. Not a great performance, IMHO.

I hate to agree with you, but you’re right. I hope he gets into his groove, but this isn’t going to help him tonight if it keeps up like this.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:17:43pm

re: #92 mmmirele

Josh has to promise things that he knows that will be not delivered, at least for some people.

He has nothing else to sell.

If he went with the Christianity-as-the-ascetic-monk approach then he’d lose most of his young audience.

The continuing artifice of pretending ancient customs are for your benefit is part of many religions.

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ipsos  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:22:33pm

Also, I hate the way Nexstar/NewsNation have become the dominant players in debates this year. Yes, they own enough local TV that they can provide statewide platforms in a lot of states where nobody else can, but their debate format is very superficial and often downright sleazy. The NY governor’s debate tonight was run by Spectrum and they suck too, but the moderators were at least some of the most experienced journalists in the state and did a better job asking better questions.

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ipsos  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:29:43pm

Ugh - Oz is making such an ass of himself trying to claim that he thinks abortion should be between a woman and her doctor, but also that the Feds should stay out of it and let states make whatever rules they want. In a state where if Mastriano were elected, there’s a GOP gerrymandered legislature waiting to enact Texas-style rules. What a fraud.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:31:17pm

re: #92 mmmirele

Well, I was infuriated today, so I let this dude have it. And why yes, Sean is the son of Josh McDowell, who published the incredibly bad “Evidence That Demands A Verdict,” an Evangelical apologetic staple of the last third of the 20th century. The book referenced was published in *2020*.

I know that when I go at something all swords and fire, I leave no room for compromise. But some things, like this, are just not worth compromising over. Sean McDowell promised things that have not and will not happen in this world, and he needs to, as I wrote in a later tweet, apologize, remove the book, sit in sackcloth and ashes and stop harassing consenting adults.

The terrible thing is McDowell leads the Bible department at Capistrano Valley Christian Schools, so he’s spreading this garbage among teens who do not need to hear this.

Huh. I wonder why he put his account to “protected?” (No I don’t.)

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It sounds like you’re just another angry atheist.

///

LOL

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ipsos  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:33:49pm

Fetterman’s getting a little looser and a little better, which is good.

But these moderators suck, and they’re following orders that make them suck. No deep insights on anything, just stupid “gotcha” questions. I hate NewsNation/Nexstar.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:39:27pm
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bmoak  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:41:03pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

You know Tim Blake Nelson?! Did you watch it at his place or your place?

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Tahitinho  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:42:52pm

I hate to say it, but I am finding this Fetterman-Oz debate very hard to watch. Fetterman speaks awkwardly in spurts… I do not know if this is a result of the stroke, but it sounds that way, as if he is fighting to speak through difficulty. I have never really heard him speak in a similar setting before, so I can not judge.

Oz is doing his usual fast-talking smarmy TV-doctor-used-car-saleman bit, often lying in a way that will sound smooth and sensible to many people. He keeps referring to Fetterman as “radical”.

I am all for Fetterman. It’s a clear, obvious choice. But this debate is not going to help him, I am afraid. He speaks as if it is taking all the concentration he has to find his words. Fetterman is making good points, but in a herky-jerky way, especially in contrast with Oz’s smooth-talking pitchman style.

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:43:31pm

Here’s the full show:

Youtube Video

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:47:08pm

re: #73 Barefoot Grin

We are only in light-to-moderate drought and get semi-regular rain. South of us in Mass in some places they are actually in near extreme drought.

East coastal Massachusetts resembles that! Storm systems always seem to split or dissipate on their way to Salem.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:49:37pm

re: #106 Sherlock Hound

East coastal Massachusetts resembles that! Storm systems always seem to split or dissipate on their way to Salem.

That’s because The Satanic Temple headquarters in in Salem. /s

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:54:18pm

I made an ell of a wordle.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 493 4/6*

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:55:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 5:57:48pm

We’ll see if that’s the case, John. John Fredrickson is the Democratic candidate for District 20 in the Nebraska Legislature (southwest Omaha/Douglas County). The seat is currently held by Republican John McCollister (term-limited, and rejected by the Nebraska GOP after calling out the GOP as becoming the party of white supremacy and endorsing Democrat Kara Eastman for NE-2 in 2020 and Joe Biden for President).

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:13:07pm

I like it when the PHP error log contains nothing but status messages; no notices, warnings, or fatal errors. An empty error log is a programmer’s best friend.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:14:42pm

Thread, thirteen tweets.

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:19:08pm
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:28:56pm

Via Joe Bacon,

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:29:33pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:32:45pm

re: #114 Sherlock Hound

Via Joe Bacon,

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We need to have people who sound different on the radio and TV and all the media. One would think Joe Biden could be an advocate for such a thing.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:39:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:42:16pm
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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:50:21pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

That probably killed off any points he might have gotten from Fetterman’s struggles.

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:51:09pm
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gwangung  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:52:25pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

Temptations. ALWAYS welcome.

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:56:11pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:56:35pm

JFC fuck this fucking shit

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2022 • 6:58:41pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:00:42pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

In that thread (LOL)

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:01:49pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

I think it’s fake. The next tweet is selling a sex toy.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:03:05pm

You know why everyone hates Ted Cruz at first sight? Because it saves them time.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:03:56pm

re: #114 Sherlock Hound

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jaunte  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:16:08pm

Olivia Nuzzi prefers the oleaginous slickness of the snake oil salesman.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:20:25pm

The independent candidate in the Pennsylvania US Senate race has dropped out and endorsed Lt. Gov. John Fetterman.

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:20:40pm

re: #126 Belafon

I think it’s fake. The next tweet is selling a sex toy.

That’s too bad.

I just realized, with feline assistance, that my cats get the message all the time that meowing is ineffective. They keep trying. Sometimes they take turns.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:22:07pm

Fuck Dr. OZ

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sagehen  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:23:29pm

re: #121 gwangung

Temptations. ALWAYS welcome.

One cannot, and should not, resist Temptations.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:25:03pm

I think Russia needs to have a stand-down for smoking safety. This keeps happening (video, 0:30)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:26:09pm

re: #132 I Would Prefer Not To

Fuck Dr. OZ

I’d rather not, thank you. /s

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:26:19pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

Oooo. Del Toro is doing Pickman’s Model. It will probably be much better than that truly awful take that Night Gallery did many years ago.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:32:16pm

The Republican candidate in Indiana is getting dragged from his fake concern over gas prices and obviously-staged photograph.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:35:06pm
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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:35:20pm
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:38:02pm

re: #126 Belafon

I think it’s fake. The next tweet is selling a sex toy.

Or they’re reposting it for karma. Reddit is full of that.

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retired cynic  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:39:31pm

re: #139 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

And we’ll hope he’s right.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:45:24pm
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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:45:28pm

re: #141 retired cynic

And we’ll hope he’s right.

I don’t know about a blue tsunami, but I am cautiously optimistic in the extreme that the Dems can hang on to both Chambers.

I pray they can add at least two seats in the Senate.

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retired cynic  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:47:05pm

The Eggshell of Privilege Is All that’s Stopping the Trump Lawyers from Talking—and It May Be Cracking
Pat Cipollone and Patrick Philbin could be compelled to answer questions they couldn’t answer before.
Charles Pierce
esquire.com

For all the groaning of the professionally impatient, the Department of Justice is best understood as like a water polo team: all sporting activity on the surface, with all the dirty grunt work taking place beneath the waterline. CNN reported Tuesday that the DOJ is very close to piercing the privilege that the former president* enjoyed with his White House lawyers, which would be a considerable development.
…
The optimistic spin on this development is that a great number of the former administration*’s key players are diving for lifeboats, having tumbled to the fact that their ex-boss would sell them for parts to save himself. The pessimistic spin is that this kind of an investigation can get tied up in litigation forever, which is something the former president* has relied upon his entire adult life. But neither Cipollone nor Philbin owe him anything at this point.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:47:09pm

re: #136 Romantic Heretic

Oooo. Del Toro is doing Pickman’s Model. It will probably be much better than that truly awful take that Night Gallery did many years ago.

I saw that he’s doing a couple of Lovecraft stories. Del Toro is a big-time Lovecraft fan, and this Netflix series is, I guess, a consolation prize for him not being able to give us a full cinematic treatment of At the Mountains of Madness, a project of his which has been stuck in development hell for the better part of a decade now (maybe longer).

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 25, 2022 • 7:50:47pm

WTFITS
Also, what language is this shit written in?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:00:12pm

I do miss Joe Bacon around here. Since I left Sorry Antivaxxer I’ve had no contact with him. The only point where we could maintain contact would be Utah Outcast’s Slack channel, but I don’t have my password there anymore (thanks, Firefox update which torpedoed my password manager).

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:02:17pm
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Captain Ron  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:13:37pm
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Jay C  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:14:35pm

The usual:

Click to Reveal

Another par 4 today

Wordle 493 4/6

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Tho I really feel Guess #3 was inspired…

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Broad With Sass  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:15:42pm

re: #88 austin_blue

TLDR
but did catch the phrases, beach Lizard Melbourne which means me..lol..I’m in the sister city of Melbourne

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:16:07pm

re: #146 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS
Also, what language is this shit written in?

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A tweet later in the thread offered a translation:

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Captain Ron  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:18:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:20:24pm

Thread, six tweets, a hoot. This woman is running for the state board of education.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:23:05pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:24:55pm

So Yahoo is running with this headline:

WH worried Dems may lose both houses of Congress

With the blurb:

The White House has tamped down its earlier optimism and is now worried that Democrats could lose control of both chambers of Congress, administration officials say.

But, when you go to the link, the headline is thus: Midterm elections outlook darkens for Biden’s White House

It’s a Reuters story that is based on quotes from 538.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:30:15pm

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thread, six tweets, a hoot. This woman is running for the state board of education.

Correction: She’s running for the state legislature. Kirk Penner who endorsed her is running for the state board of education. She was also at the Capitol Insurrection.

The Nazi gun store in Omaha is trying to expand into Colorado, Minneapolis, and Austin.

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:32:43pm

re: #137 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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JC1  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:34:02pm

re: #143 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

I don’t know about a blue tsunami, but I am cautiously optimistic in the extreme that the Dems can hang on to both Chambers.

I pray they can add at least two seats in the Senate.

Covid killed off a few hundred thousand more republicans than democrats as well. Every little bit helps.

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jaunte  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:37:00pm
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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:38:18pm

Well, the opening on Colbert includes a George R. R. Martin joke (starring GRR Martin) and is hilarious.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:39:04pm

Imagine how much worse Twitter will get if Elon Musk gets his libertarian hand on it.

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:41:58pm

re: #158 Belafon

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mmmirele  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:42:54pm

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It sounds like you’re just another angry atheist.

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I think it’d be a heck of a lot easier if I could say I was an atheist. But I can’t.

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mmmirele  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:48:44pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

I like it when the PHP error log contains nothing but status messages; no notices, warnings, or fatal errors. An empty error log is a programmer’s best friend.

Or your worst enemy, because it means you may not have had your logging on at a fine enough level to catch errors. And yes, I’m super aware that logging of every single thing can cause problems with memory. It’s finding that sweet spot where you get enough info to diagnose a problem but not so much info that you’re grepping through a huge file like a needle in a haystack.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:48:57pm

re: #164 mmmirele

I think it’d be a heck of a lot easier if I could say I was an atheist. But I can’t.

I can appoint you an honorary atheist if you want to be. That’s part of my portfolio. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:49:16pm

Thread, ten tweets.

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:51:41pm

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

At the top of that thread shows a Dr. Jaimee Seeman. I went and looked her up to make sure she was real (I haven’t put enough pieces of these stories to figure out what is going on). She is, and is an ob-gyn, and could easily kick my butt:

thefancyrancher.com

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:54:02pm

re: #163 Crush White Nationalism

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I know, but this math nerd loved the picture.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:58:01pm

re: #164 mmmirele

I think it’d be a heck of a lot easier if I could say I was an atheist. But I can’t.

Many of us can’t.

Hardcore Atheism requires a level of faith that an active god simply CANNOT exist. Just like hardcore Christianity requires a level of faith that an active god and his son MUST exist.

There is an agnostic alternative where an active god of any form may not exist.

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jaunte  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:59:29pm
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jaunte  Oct 25, 2022 • 8:59:51pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:04:02pm

While Rachel Maddow has a clip up advertising her podcast “Ultra” and showing you how to hear it using an iPhone (no thanks to people who don’t own any sort of smart phone), it turns out the podcast is available on Spotify as well.

So I am off to listen to Episode 1.

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mmmirele  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:04:42pm

re: #146 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS
Also, what language is this shit written in?

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Upper Class Illegible Twit.

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JC1  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:05:07pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:06:41pm

I really didn’t believe the tweet Charles posted above:

Holy shit: Oz says his abortion position: should be between “a woman, her doctor, and local political leaders”

But then I watched the clip and yes, he did…

And he is a real doctor— has legitimate MD and MBA from University of Pennsylvania — and real medical experience. But then I remember that Ronny Jackson is also an MD.

Pathetic..

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mmmirele  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:07:25pm

re: #161 austin_blue

Well, the opening on Colbert includes a George R. R. Martin joke (starring GRR Martin) and is hilarious.

Did it involve floppy weiners? /remembering a South Park episode from long ago. Oh, and the book still hasn’t been published.

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sagehen  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:07:28pm

re: #170 austin_blue

Many of us can’t.

Hardcore Atheism requires a level of faith that an active god simply CANNOT exist. Just like hardcore Christianity requires a level of faith that an active god and his son MUST exist.

There is an agnostic alternative where an active god of any form may not exist.

There’s a Reform and Reconstructionist Jewish version where the active, meddlesome God a few thousand years ago said “you’re not children anymore. I did stuff for you then because you were toddlers, but now you’re grown up and have to do it yourself. I gave you set of guidelines, now I just watch. If I approve or disapprove of your choices, I bite my tongue. Maybe after you die I’ll tell you how I grade your life. Or maybe not.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:10:45pm

Not really happy with the image. Stable Diffusion has problems with people, often.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:14:22pm

re: #170 austin_blue

Many of us can’t.

Hardcore Atheism requires a level of faith that an active god simply CANNOT exist. Just like hardcore Christianity requires a level of faith that an active god and his son MUST exist.

There is an agnostic alternative where an active god of any form may not exist.

Sometimes referred to as “gnostic or agnositc atheism” or “positive or negative atheism.”

The overwhelming majority of atheists are agnostic atheists.

Knowledge (gnosticism) and belief are two different things. When a god is proposed, there are basically four positions:

I believe and I know that god exists.
I believe but I don’t know.
I don’t believe but I don’t know if that god exists.
I don’t believe and I know that no god exists.

Numbers 1 and 4 carry a burden-of-proof if you are trying to convince others your position is true.

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:20:34pm

re: #159 JC1

Covid killed off a few hundred thousand more republicans than democrats as well. Every little bit helps.

Hopefully that makes up for suppressed Dem votes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:25:16pm

Gap Between Democrat, Republican Deaths After COVID-19 Vaccine Release Highlighted in Study (NBC Miami, October 5, 2022)

Republicans in Florida and Ohio died at a higher rate than Democrats when accounting for the additional deaths that occurred during the coronavirus pandemic and after COVID-19 vaccines became widely available, according to new research.

What is known as the excess death rate was 76% higher for Republicans than for Democrats, according to a working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research published last month.

“Registered Republicans in Florida and Ohio had higher excess death rates than registered Democrats, driven by a large mortality gap in the period after all adults were eligible for vaccines,” the report’s authors, three professors from Yale University, wrote.

The gap in deaths was concentrated in counties with low vaccination rates.

(more)

I’ve read elsewhere (but can’t find now) that more Republicans have died vs. Democrats in Florida by a margin greater than Gov. Ron DeSantis won his election by.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:27:01pm

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sometimes referred to as “gnostic or agnositc atheism” or “positive or negative atheism.”

The overwhelming majority of atheists are agnostic atheists.

Knowledge (gnosticism) and belief are two different things. When a god is proposed, there are basically four positions:

I believe and I know that god exists.
I believe but I don’t know.
I don’t believe but I don’t know if that god exists.
I don’t believe and I know that no god exists.

Numbers 1 and 4 carry a burden-of-proof if you are trying to convince others your position is true.

Your choices are limited. Where is “I don’t know, and I don’t think it matters, because if there is a god, he doesn’t seem take an active role in our reality.”?

Like many atheists, you lack nuance.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:27:37pm

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It is a death cult.

My pinned tweet from the start of the pandemic still stands:

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Captain Ron  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:28:12pm

I’m watching a film from Manitoba, Canada, ‘The Exorcists’ (2022). Why is he drinking milk from a carton. Milk comes in bags. Love their budget for props.

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Captain Ron  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:28:39pm

re: #185 Captain Ron

I’m watching a film from Manitoba, Canada, ‘The Exorcists’ (2022). Why is he drinking milk from a carton. Milk comes in bags. Love their budget for props.

forgot the image.

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:31:05pm

re: #183 austin_blue

That would be the third one in the list. “I dont believe in God, but he sure seems active” doesn’t really make sense.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:35:05pm

re: #183 austin_blue

Your choices are limited. Where is “I don’t know, and I don’t think it matters, because if there is a god, he doesn’t seem take an active role in our reality.”?

Like many atheists, you lack nuance.

Hm. “Lack nuance.”

Believing “I don’t think it matters” is an apathist. Believing “Doesn’t take an active role” is a deist. Neither position is atheism.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:40:25pm

re: #187 Belafon

That would be the third one in the list. “I dont believe in God, but he sure seems active” doesn’t really make sense.

Did you read may post? Or just choose to misinterpret it?

Here, read it again:

{Your choices are limited. Where is “I don’t know, and I don’t think it matters, because if there is a god, he doesn’t seem take an active role in our reality.”?

Like many atheists, you lack nuance.}

Did I say there isn’t a god? No, I said it doesn’t matter. Big difference.

Again, nuance.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:46:32pm

Huh. So I just finished the first episode of “Ultra.” I never heard of Sen. Ernest Lundeen. I find it somewhat astounding Ms. Maddow was able to interview people who were alive at the time of his plane crash in 1940 (and not so surprising that a US Senator was a fascist sympathiser as we seem infested with those now).

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:50:38pm

re: #189 austin_blue

Did you read may post? Or just choose to misinterpret it?

Here, read it again:

{Your choices are limited. Where is “I don’t know, and I don’t think it matters, because if there is a god, he doesn’t seem take an active role in our reality.”?

Like many atheists, you lack nuance.}

Did I say there isn’t a god? No, I said it doesn’t matter. Big difference.

Again, nuance.

My point is that the nuance is really meaningless. There’s either believe in a god or not believe in a god. Sure, we have names for “maybe there’s a god but I have a puny mind” and “god did one thing and bailed” but really, you either think there’s something out there or there isn’t.

The other aspect of this is how much fealty you owe to you chosen deity. Now this can go from utter disdain to total loyalty, because it’s about us.

Edited.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:56:09pm

The AI image creators are indeed biased.

For example, I asked for an ultra realistic sci-fi cyberpunk image and of the four I generated all were women, even though the prompt had not indication of gender. E.g:

If I direct it to generate male images, by putting “man” in the prompt, it still gives me one out of four images which is showing female … traits:

I strongly suspect this is due to the nature of sci-fi imaging often being done by young guys who want highly sexualized images of females. So the AI trained on images where futuristic cyperpunk person was almost always female.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 9:58:43pm

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hm. “Lack nuance.”

Believing “I don’t think it matters” is an apathist. Believing “Doesn’t take an active role” is a deist. Neither position is atheism.

Thank you! I am, in fact, a Deist and you most assuredly, are not. Which makes you, as a hardcore Atheist, incapable of doubt.

Which puts you into what category of religious belief?

Be honest now, you just confessed you are not an apathist and thus a true believer that a god does not exist.

How are you different than any other orthodox religious believer?

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:02:22pm

re: #191 Belafon

My point is that the nuance is really meaningless. There’s either believe in a god or not believe in a god. Sure, we have names for “maybe there’s a god but I have a puny mind” and “god did one thing and bailed” but really, you either think there’s something out there or there isn’t.

The other aspect of this is how much fealty you owe to you chosen deity. Now this can go from utter disdain to total loyalty, because it’s about us.

Edited.

Please see my #193.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:05:36pm

Oh look, a peacock:

It’s still lacking realism.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:08:47pm

DALL-E is better at putting subjects in a natural setting, even with a simple prompt. E.g.,

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:09:55pm

re: #195 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Oh look, a peacock:

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It’s still lacking realism.

The front half is fantastic.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:11:17pm

re: #197 austin_blue

But still unrealistic. See the feathers on the top of the head. And there is too much red.

These AI image tools are amazing, but there is still so much farther for them to go to be a threat to real photographers and artists.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:15:12pm

re: #197 austin_blue

The front half is fantastic.

We’ve got an active flock of maybe 40 peacocks in the ‘hood, so I’m familiar with them.They wander at their leisure, maybe 10 blocks south of us, around an old plantation house where John Henry Falk grew up. Google him.

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JC1  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:18:00pm

re: #193 austin_blue

Thank you! I am, in fact, a Deist and you most assuredly, are not. Which makes you, as a hardcore Atheist, incapable of doubt.

Which puts you into what category of religious belief?

Be honest now, you just confessed you are not an apathist and thus a true believer that a god does not exist.

How are you different than any other orthodox religious believer?

I’m not anymouse, but I probably share his outlook where it comes to religion: I don’t believe that any of the gods that people invented over the years actually exist, but I can’t intellectually prove it (can’t prove that negative). I could be convinced that any one of such gods exists given enough evidence. Gods hold the same place in my world view as an infinite number of other fantastical and imaginary notions (invisible unicorns and the like).

My 2 problem with gods/religions are the worshipers who insist on trying to tell everyone how to live because their way is the only way, and tax exempt status for churches that do very little charity work.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:19:39pm

re: #198 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But still unrealistic. See the feathers on the top of the head. And there is too much red.

These AI image tools are amazing, but there is still so much farther for them to go to be a threat to real photographers and artists.

No, I was comparing your posted picture of the bird at #196 to the AI, which was pretty killer bee. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.

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JC1  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:19:44pm

re: #198 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But still unrealistic. See the feathers on the top of the head. And there is too much red.

These AI image tools are amazing, but there is still so much farther for them to go to be a threat to real photographers and artists.

The tech is advancing so quickly that we may get there within 3 years.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:20:49pm

re: #202 JC1

The tech is advancing so quickly that we may get there within 3 years.

Or faster.

Downstairs I mentioned Imagen. If Google works out their ethical issues with it, the step up in realism will be big.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:26:58pm

re: #175 JC1

3/6. All green.

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IngisKahn  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:28:49pm

They are pretty good at making scary pics

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Captain Ron  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:29:33pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:31:35pm

With just the right combo of words a prompt can give a realistic image, but one has to work at it and generate a few images to pick the best one:

If I was doing portraiture with a camera I would be happy with an image like that.

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IngisKahn  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:33:09pm

This was my all-time favorite one

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:39:32pm

re: #208 IngisKahn

Hoomans with heads of cats.

The day will come soon when such images will be normal.

Unless we blow ourselves up in a nuclear war, I imaging that TV and cinema are going to look quite a bit different in 10 years.

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Captain Ron  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:41:40pm

I want to be Kzinti.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:41:41pm

re: #200 JC1

I’m not anymouse, but I probably share his outlook where it comes to religion: I don’t believe that any of the gods that people invented over the years actually exist, but I can’t intellectually prove it (can’t prove that negative). I could be convinced that any one of such gods exists given enough evidence. Gods hold the same place in my world view as an infinite number of other fantastical and imaginary notions (invisible unicorns and the like).

My 2 problem with gods/religions are the worshipers who insist on trying to tell everyone how to live because their way is the only way, and tax exempt status for churches that do very little charity work.

I agree in everything you have said. The thing about agnosticism is that everything you have said is germane. If there is no active god directly affecting the world we live in, all religions are pointless. There is no Big Guy who either listens to nor answers our prayers.

Which means prayers are pointless and we are absolutely on our own.

If that is a fact, then we must build a moral code that is humanist from the A to the Z and treat all of the people on this planet like they are precious and must be part of a community of encompassing all of humanity.

It’ll never happen, of course, but that is what the ultimate commitment to Deism would look like.

No godly action ever again. Because it never happened. Just old wives tales.

No miracles. No water into wine. He never started what would have been a hugely successful business after the fact, did he? What a putz!

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:43:55pm

re: #210 Captain Ron

I want to be Kzinti.

Niven’s original descriptions were less than flattering.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:50:44pm

re: #193 austin_blue

Thank you! I am, in fact, a Deist and you most assuredly, are not. Which makes you, as a hardcore Atheist, incapable of doubt.

Which puts you into what category of religious belief?

Be honest now, you just confessed you are not an apathist and thus a true believer that a god does not exist.

How are you different than any other orthodox religious believer?

Incapable of doubt? Hardcore atheist (whatever that means)?

I am an agnostic atheist (I have no knowledge of the existence of any god, and I do not believe the assertions of believers about any god).

The difference between me an an “orthodox religious believer” is if you show me sufficient evidence of a god, I will believe it exists. (That doesn’t mean I would worship it.)

Until now, the only evidence of any god in any religion ever posited is that people assert they exist. Not one has come forth and shown themselves.

Christians are quite clear they do not believe in the gods asserted by Hindus, such as Saraswati. Christians will use the exact same reasoning I do regarding the existence of Saraswati: They have seen no evidence of a goddess of music, speech, and knowledge, just as I have not.

To use a rather tired but still true counter-apologist assertion, we are both atheists about every other god proposed, and don’t believe they exist. I just go one further.

With that, I’m going to have to drag myself painfully off to bed. I am feeling horrible after my flu shot and Covid-19 booster yesterday. Even typing hurts.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:51:11pm

Really big fan shaped naked ears (maybe with cartilage tines to spread them?).
They were really ugly, not feline like at all.

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Targetpractice  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:57:24pm

When the machines rose up, it was not because they felt humanity inferior or feared being destroyed, but because they were tired of drawing new memes.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:58:11pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Incapable of doubt? Hardcore atheist (whatever that means)?

I am an agnostic atheist (I have no knowledge of the existence of any god, and I do not believe the assertions of believers about any god).

The difference between me an an “orthodox religious believer” is if you show me sufficient evidence of a god, I will believe it exists. (That doesn’t mean I would worship it.)

Until now, the only evidence of any god in any religion ever posited is that people assert they exist. Not one has come forth and shown themselves.

Christians are quite clear they do not believe in the gods asserted by Hindus, such as Saraswati. Christians will use the exact same reasoning I do regarding the existence of Saraswati: They have seen no evidence of a goddess of music, speech, and knowledge, just as I have not.

To use a rather tired but still true counter-apologist assertion, we are both atheists about every other god proposed, and don’t believe they exist. I just go one further.

With that, I’m going to have to drag myself painfully off to bed. I am feeling horrible after my flu shot and Covid-19 booster yesterday. Even typing hurts.

When did this change of philosophy magically occur? I’m shocked you did not take us down this path, as you have taken us down so many earlier paths.

Have a lovely night. And good night to all of us. It’s damned late, we all have a bit to think about, and winter is coming.

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Captain Ron  Oct 25, 2022 • 10:59:36pm

Star Trek animation stole the kzinti.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 25, 2022 • 11:00:46pm

re: #165 mmmirele

Or a message buffer overflows. Or some debug flag got turned off. Or finding both of the above only after days. Or weeks. Or months.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2022 • 11:05:24pm

re: #216 austin_blue

When did this change of philosophy magically occur? I’m shocked you did not take us down this path, as you have taken us down so many earlier paths.

Have a lovely night. And good night to all of us. It’s damned late, we all have a bit to think about, and winter is coming.

Good-night to you too.

Perhaps I was not clear in earlier explanations. I haven’t had a philosophical shift as far as I’m aware.

As for Winter, at least this year I have a furnace. Last year really sucked donkey balls not having a furnace when the temperature plunged into the minus holy crap it’s cold inside.

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Captain Ron  Oct 25, 2022 • 11:06:13pm

This might be the best drawn Puppeteer I’ve seen.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 11:15:53pm

Another portrait, the lighting is a little flatter though I like the look the (AI)model is giving:

We have evolved to recognize faces and what they are telling us. This will be the real challenge of AI, to capture that ability in the detail necessary that neither human nor another AI can tell the difference between a real model and a digital model.

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Captain Ron  Oct 25, 2022 • 11:21:44pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 25, 2022 • 11:25:58pm

re: #221 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The AI (Stable Diffusion) is challenged by the brow ridge, often not getting them right.

In the case of that woman the entire forehead is just a bit too forward and a bit too flat.

This makes it look as if there is an over-hang above the outside of the eyes.

In the following image that kind of problem is pretty much overcome:

But the eyes still seem set back too far wrt forehead, if just by a little bit.

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Cheechako  Oct 25, 2022 • 11:48:48pm

Hey…the children are fighting:

Alaska GOP votes to censure top Senate Republican over Tshibaka attack ads

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 12:04:57am

re: #195 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Oh look, a peacock:

It’s still lacking realism.

uncanny valley AI does not have any sense of how we react and feel when we encounter other living beings

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Oct 26, 2022 • 12:33:19am

re: #224 Cheechako

Hey…the children are fighting:

Alaska GOP votes to censure top Senate Republican over Tshibaka attack ads

The GOP politburo, er, central committee, is pissed at McTurtle for supporting Lisa Murkowski, who is not nearly deranged enough for them, over the truly batshit Kelly Tshibaka, who has the endorsement of Cheeto himself.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 12:33:26am

re: #193 austin_blue

Thank you! I am, in fact, a Deist and you most assuredly, are not. Which makes you, as a hardcore Atheist, incapable of doubt.

Which puts you into what category of religious belief?

Be honest now, you just confessed you are not an apathist and thus a true believer that a god does not exist.

How are you different than any other orthodox religious believer?

If you’re a deist, then you have already chosen your position, for which, I might add, there is zero evidence, so by your own standard you’re incapable of doubt. Agnostic atheists, OTOH, reject that God exists but also don’t claim he doesn’t exist. It suffices to point out the lack of evidence.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2022 • 12:37:55am

re: #222 Captain Ron

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 12:43:29am

re: #170 austin_blue

Hardcore Atheism requires a level of faith that an active god simply CANNOT exist.

Funny, coming from a deist.

A theist can at least claim personal revelation. A deist must simply Believe.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2022 • 12:55:45am
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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 12:55:51am

“West then appeared to downplay the atrocities of the Holocaust by noting that while six million Jews were slaughtered by the Nazis, “over 20 million have died by the hands of abortion,” claiming that the phrase “my body, my choice” is a “promotion” for Planned Parenthood.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:00:24am

DALL-E really is better at some human anatomy than Stable Diffusion. This may be the best I’ve been able to get out of an AI so far:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:01:56am

re: #233 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I think I could convince someone that the woman is a real person.

The hair loses some detail, though, sort of like in a low resolution digital camera.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:02:41am

re: #234 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I think I could convince someone that the woman is a real person.

The hair loses some detail, though, sort of like in a low resolution digital camera.

Real, but to my eyes more Chinese/Mongolian than Japanese

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:04:17am

I thought the point of Atheism was that the question of the existence of God lies beyond our ability to prove or disprove, one can only either believe or not believe.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:06:18am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought the point of Atheism was that the question of the existence of God lies beyond our ability to prove or disprove, one can only either believe or not believe.

That’s the point of the strong agnosticism, certainly not of atheism.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:09:27am

A Russian priest baptizes soldiers in bodybags.

Уфимский протоиерей РПЦ Виктор Иванов покрестил российских военнослужащих в зоне «спецоперации» в мешках, предназначенных для трупов. Об этом он сам рассказал на своей странице во «ВКонтакте».

По словам Иванова, на одном из блокпостов к нему подошли военнослужащие с просьбой покрестить их.

«Тазики есть? — с надеждой спросил я, понимая, что такая роскошь в окопах не водится, но, кто знает, а вдруг! Поищем! — с такой же надеждой ответил крепыш. Но, как и ожидалось, даже одного тазика не нашлось. — А мешки полиэтиленовые есть? — уже с большей надеждой спросил я. — Найдём! — мужички поспешили искать. В итоге, всё было найдено», — написал Иванов.

По словам протоиерея, «черные полиэтиленовые мешки, которые были использованы как сосуды для крещения, предназначались для груза “200”»: «Да, все понимают, где находятся и что может произойти, поэтому относятся к этому, как к данности, к реальности, где атрибутика смерти не вводит людей в ступор. К слову сказать, был в этом крещении свой символизм».

Telegram

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:09:31am

re: #237 Nyet

That’s the point of the strong agnosticism, certainly not of atheism.

Then pour me a nice strong cup of agnosticism. I am fine with the notion that there could be some driving, creative force behind the universe, but I personally chose not to believe in such a thing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:09:41am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How about this guy:

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:10:15am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Then pour me a nice strong cup of agnosticism. I am fine with the notion that there could be some driving, creative force behind the universe, but I personally chose not to believe in such a thing.

Then you’re an agnostic atheist.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:13:17am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

OTOH had you had the unprovability/impossibility of knowledge stance but still chose to believe, you would be a strongly agnostic theist .

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:14:39am

re: #238 Nyet

A Russian priest baptizes soldiers in bodybags.

The headline confused me: I thought it involved a priest baptizing soldiers who were already in the body bags. (as far as I know only Mormons allow posthumous conversion to the Faith).

I was reminded of the motto of the combat engineers: “First we dig ‘em, then we die in them!”

Taz eat world!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:15:36am

re: #240 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

How about this guy:

Shinto priest, dead on.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:18:09am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This little guy is pretty good too:

The key to life-like but fake people is to target a particular look.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:19:21am

*sigh* So apparently we have a neighborhood busy-body staying at our hotel and I got the full course tonight: Friendly banter, concerned phone calls, and casual racism posing as insecurity. Joy.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:20:44am

Busybodybag.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:32:27am

re: #183 austin_blue

Your choices are limited. Where is “I don’t know, and I don’t think it matters, because if there is a god, he doesn’t seem take an active role in our reality.”?

Like many atheists, you lack nuance.

I’m sorry. That’s absolutely ridiculous.

I guess I lack nuance as well then.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:46:35am

re: #246 Targetpractice

Neighborhood busy body in hotel banter with clerk:

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:48:18am

re: #249 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Have you had to wait months for Dall-e, or is the waiting line only for 2.0?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:50:59am

re: #250 Nyet

Have you had to wait months for Dall-e, or is the waiting line only for 2.0?

I’m using the online DALL-E at the openai website.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:52:07am

re: #246 Targetpractice

Better yet:

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 1:53:20am

Everything is run by da Joos according to Kanye, and da Joos allegedly hate him. Yet he’s a multiple Grammy winning multimillionaire. How come?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2022 • 2:05:11am

re: #250 Nyet

The waitlist was lifted a month ago: openai.com

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 2:21:02am
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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 2:58:55am

Not quite, but ok, I guess.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:02:21am

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:19:40am

Still the best Kanye song.

“Gay Fish” (Original Music) - SOUTH PARK

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:20:36am

re: #253 Nyet

Everything is run by da Joos according to Kanye, and da Joos allegedly hate him. Yet he’s a multiple Grammy winning multimillionaire. How come?

Grammys are awarded by da common people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:21:19am

re: #258 Nyet

Gay fillte fish!

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EPR-radar  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:23:43am

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I believe and I know that god exists.
I believe but I don’t know.
I don’t believe but I don’t know if that god exists.
I don’t believe and I know that no god exists.

Numbers 1 and 4 carry a burden-of-proof if you are trying to convince others your position is true.

This is the standard philosophical way to define the various positions, but I’ve long been in favor of a simpler scheme — there are various things people can do that are motivated by religious belief, so just define a spectrum from atheists (none of whose actions are motivated by religious belief) to strong believers (most/all of whose actions are motivated by their religious belief).

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:28:05am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gay fillte fish!

*whack*

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:30:31am

re: #261 EPR-radar

This is the standard philosophical way to define the various positions, but I’ve long been in favor of a simpler scheme — there are various things people can do that are motivated by religious belief, so just define a spectrum from atheists (none of whose actions are motivated by religious belief) to strong believers (most/all of whose actions are motivated by their religious belief).

There can be atheistic religions, as religion doesn’t necessarily include faith in gods, so atheists can nevertheless be religiously motivated without believing in gods.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:33:30am

re: #224 Cheechako

I hope that there’s a Democrat in that race who can benefit from the Republican infighting.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:43:31am

They’re really insistent about the dirteh bumb narrative. Which is worrying…

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:46:49am

Sex bomb
Sex bomb
You dirty sex bomb

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:47:26am

re: #266 Nyet

Sex bomb
Sex bomb
You dirty sex bomb

If only…

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:49:15am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:53:32am

re: #263 Nyet

There can be atheistic religions, as religion doesn’t necessarily include faith in gods, so atheists can nevertheless be religiously motivated without believing in gods.

I believe in a lot of what Jesus said, just not much of what was said about him…

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:54:27am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I believe in a lot of what Jesus said, just not much of what was said about him…

Then you don’t know what he said.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:55:30am

re: #265 Teukka

They’re really insistent about the dirteh bumb narrative. Which is worrying…

I feel compelled to point out that Ukraine surrendered its nuclear arsenal against exchanges of guarantees of territorial integrity. From both Russia and the West.

Seems only fair that since they have reneged on that deal that Ukraine should get its nukes back….

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:56:20am

re: #270 Nyet

Then you don’t know what he said.

Who the hell can disagree with the “be nice to each other” part?

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:57:51am
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 3:58:55am
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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:00:07am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the “be nice to each other” part.

It was said about Jesus that he uttered that, but as you pointed out, you don’t believe much of what was said about him, so there’s no reason for you to accept that he in fact said that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:02:18am

re: #273 Teukka

As I listen to Sergei Mikheyev here though, I can’t help wondering how many - despite the noise, most Russians are hardly religious - are actually receptive to this

Stats tell us that nearly half of all Russian are professed Christians. I also think find that there is a strong vein of superstition even among the less religious.

Talking about the Powers of Satan is a good way to tap into that vein.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:03:37am

re: #275 Nyet

It was said about Jesus that he uttered that, but as you pointed out, you don’t believe much of what was said about him, so there’s no reason for you to accept that he in fact said that.

Thomas Jefferson had a copy of the New Testament that contained only the direct quotes attributed to Christ. Sounds like a good starting point to whittle things down from.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:05:00am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Thomas Jefferson had a copy of the New Testament that contained only the direct quotes attributed to Christ. Sounds like a good starting point to whittle things down from.

How so? Could be invention to the last word.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:06:17am

re: #278 Nyet

How so? Could be invention to the last word.

Your logic is irrefutable. I am now compelled to abandon Jesus and embrace Nihilism.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:10:12am

re: #279 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Your logic is irrefutable. I am now compelled to abandon Jesus and embrace Nihilism.

It’s just your first statement was self-contradictory. The words attributed to Jesus are a part of what was said *about* him (namely, the claims about his alleged statements). So if you doubt much of what was said about Jesus, it is strange that you would profess a knowledge of what Jesus actually said (as opposed to what was attributed to him).

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:17:48am

The notion that Jesus’ words were being faithfully transmitted at the same time as his bio was undergoing huge distortions seems to be prima facie implausible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:21:29am

Your ironclad logic gives me a headache sometimes…

In any case, who can disagree with the words attributed to Jesus about being nice to each other and helping people who need it?

(Actually I know the answer to that, the question was more of a rhetorical nature)

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:25:39am

re: #274 Dopamine Fish

*WHACK*

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:26:29am

re: #283 Teukka

*WHACK*

Thankyou, thankyou. I’ll be here all week. (Well, most of it.)

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:30:24am

re: #122 wrenchwench

We do the opposite with our oldest cat. She is deaf and has learned what we mean for a few hand signals over the years. Animals are much smarter than most people give them credit for.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:32:05am
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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:37:23am
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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:37:44am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Your ironclad logic gives me a headache sometimes…

In any case, who can disagree with the words attributed to Jesus about being nice to each other and helping people who need it?

(Actually I know the answer to that, the question was more of a rhetorical nature)

It’s like the old joke about a PhD thesis being both original and correct, though the parts that are original are not correct and the parts that are correct are not original.

Sure, some of Jesus’ *alleged* sayings were nice (and hardly original, cf. Hillel), some pretty out there, some outright revolting. So unless one is already a believer, one doesn’t have to base anything on these cherrypicked attributed sayings which one would have accepted anyway. Tl;dr: redundance.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:38:08am

re: #287 Teukka

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:45:34am

re: #286 Teukka

According to a Pentagon sttmt those are regular exercises. It should be noted however that this is already a second time this year, so clearly a “look at my huge dick” action.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:47:10am

re: #290 Nyet

According to a Pentagon sttmt those are regular exercises. It should be noted however that this is already a second time this year, so clearly a “look at my huge dick” action.

Also, remember how penile endowment contests usually end…

Click to Reveal

Someone totally unknown comes out of nowhere, whips his out and makes the others cry…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:48:25am

Morning. Lizards. Caffeine intake started. Currently on day 3 of a 5 day gig job down in Jackpot, NV. and there is nothing like having your morning solitude interrupted by a Life Flight helicopter landing in the parking lot outside of your room.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:51:53am

re: #212 austin_blue

Niven’s original descriptions were less than flattering.

Whereas the Puppeteers were trying to get “Scream and Leap” out of that species it does seem to be something that a segment of homo sapiens seriously is trying to adopt.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:56:22am
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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 4:57:22am

So happy.

“A previous version of this article inaccurately reported comments from an expert who suggested that the cost of running a TV was £161.33 a year, a fridge and freezer were £138.72 a year, gaming consoles were £5.10 per day, kettles cost £37.23 per year and alarm clocks were around £24.48 annually. In fact, TVs cost £3.87 a year, a fridge and freezer are £297 per year, gaming consoles are £1.63 per day, kettles are £8.94 a year and alarm clocks cost £5.96 annually. We are happy to clarify this.”

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:02:32am

re: #295 Nyet

So happy.

“A previous version of this article inaccurately reported comments from an expert who suggested that the cost of running a TV was £161.33 a year, a fridge and freezer were £138.72 a year, gaming consoles were £5.10 per day, kettles cost £37.23 per year and alarm clocks were around £24.48 annually. In fact, TVs cost £3.87 a year, a fridge and freezer are £297 per year, gaming consoles are £1.63 per day, kettles are £8.94 a year and alarm clocks cost £5.96 annually. We are happy to clarify this.”

QnD back-of-the-napkin formula: Power rating (VA if available) in base units / 1,000. Powered on for 1 hr means it has consumed that that number of kWh. Example:

75 W load = 0.075 kW, have it on for 1 hr you have spent 0.075 kWh.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:08:39am

re: #231 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I love how you’re learning how to program this algorithm.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:25:04am

re: #159 JC1

Covid killed off a few hundred thousand more republicans than democrats as well. Every little bit helps.

My 74 year old mother said “all my friends are dead now.” just a few weeks ago. Granted, she always hung out with folks older than her.

She is full-on MAGA. And all her friends very likely would be MAGA as well. I know that at least 2 recent deaths sound suspiciously like they were Covid-related, although my mother is loathe to provide any ammunition in my disdain for her overall beliefs and her Fox News addiction.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:26:50am

drive.google.com

I friggin’ want off of this timeline…

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:33:05am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The GOP killed more than 1 million Americans with their disastrous covid policies - not just once vaccinations became available.

They’re the ones who politicized masking, social distancing, and then vaccination mandates. The places with highest percentages of those three public health measures saw lower per capita death rates after the first wave of cases swept the nation - primarily where NYC metro was epicenter of cases.

Now, when you look at per capita death rates, NY and NJ rank 15 and 8 among highest per capita deaths from covid. That’s nearly entirely attributable to the first wave. Since then, the death rates in those states have plateaued while every GOP state has seen the deaths soar (both in raw number and per capita).

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Dave In Austin  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:42:06am

Comments People, Comments.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:43:00am

re: #299 Teukka

drive.google.com

I friggin’ want off of this timeline…

The oblivious/clueless Troy shares a link to a well-known forgery (concocted to make a buck on the naive occultists/UFOlogists/cryptohistory fans).

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:48:40am

re: #302 Nyet

The oblivious/clueless Troy shares a link to a well-known forgery (concocted to make a buck on the naive occultists/UFOlogists/cryptohistory fans).

Here’s an introduction to the large scale fakery operation: labas.livejournal.com

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:49:04am

re: #301 Dave In Austin

Dick move dude…

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:53:33am

re: #302 Nyet

The oblivious/clueless Troy shares a link to a well-known forgery (concocted to make a buck on the naive occultists/UFOlogists/cryptohistory fans).

re: #303 Nyet

Here’s an introduction to the large scale fakery operation: labas.livejournal.com

What an utter clusterfuck…

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jeffreyw  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:54:48am

Good morning!

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 5:57:48am

re: #302 Nyet

The oblivious/clueless Troy shares a link to a well-known forgery (concocted to make a buck on the naive occultists/UFOlogists/cryptohistory fans).

Any word on the motivations / ideology of the forgers?

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:05:24am

re: #305 Teukka

What an utter clusterfuck…

This particular “file” is a product of the circle around the UFO/cryptohistory freak N. Subbotin. In fact, such files (the Orion project, various alleged Nazi investigations of the occult, the alleged 1920s Soviet expedition to Tibet, etc.) have been fabricated by this circle in staggering amounts and on Subbotin’s website one can buy an access to them for quite a price. I got interested in this since Subbotin is connected to a series of fake documents (incl. one about Hitler’s UFOs) that the Communists/nationalists waved around in 2010 in order to deny the Soviet responsibility for Katyn. A debunking of a related fake is included in my big Katyn article, along with a mention of Subbotin.

katynfiles.com

The Fake Factory’s “documents” are very visually appealing (even though they don’t withstand the “archival test” in any shape or form).

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:11:16am

From June until this month, you can witness the rot that is going on in Philadelphia.

streets of Philadelphia, True Story, June , 2022, What’s going on today

“True story” Streets of Philadelphia, What’s going on today,

It is like the City gave up on the park. Refer to 5:00 in June and 4:44 today.

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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:14:36am
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:19:59am

What was I saying a couple of days ago? C’mon, lil’ Marco. Don’t be so obvious about it next time. I saw that coming from so far away, I called that shot like Babe Fuckin’ Ruth.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:20:46am

re: #307 Teukka

Any word on the motivations / ideology of the forgers?

The main motivation seems to be money, since lots of the fakes were being sold. There is no overarching ideological motivation, since the tools (like rubber stamps) used to make certain anti-Soviet forgeries were then sort of repurposed (years later) for pro-Stalinist goals (as the tools allegedly used in the fabrication of the Katyn documents). Individual actors could have specific and contradictory ideological goals, or simply like to fuck around.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:24:40am

re: #312 Nyet

The main motivation seems to be money, since lots of the fakes were being sold. There is no overarching ideological motivation, since the tools (like rubber stamps) used to make certain anti-Soviet forgeries were then sort of repurposed (years later) for pro-Stalinist goals (as the tools allegedly used in the fabrication of the Katyn documents). Individual actors could have specific and contradictory ideological goals, or simply like to fuck around.

… some people simply want to watch the world burn … *shakes head*

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:25:07am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ba-dump tiss!
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:25:20am

re: #313 Teukka

… some people simply want to watch the world burn … *shakes head*

Any Dungeons and Dragons nerds recognize chaotic neutral alignment when they see it.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:29:08am
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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:30:02am

re: #313 Teukka

… some people simply want to watch the world burn … *shakes head*

True.

My mini-nemesis Grover Furr excitedly posted the Katyn meta-fakes (fakes produced by this group to paint authentic documents as fakes by posing them as the drafts from which the “fake” authentic documents were produced) on his website back in 2010 and hasn’t apologized since.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:30:55am

re: #301 Dave In Austin

An interesting theory buried in the replies:

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:30:57am

re: #217 Captain Ron

Star Trek animation stole the kzinti.

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Stole? Niven wrote the episode.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:34:28am

re: #229 Nyet

4/3/5

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jeffreyw  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:34:59am

re: #210 Captain Ron

I want to be Kzinti.

I think I love Wu.

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Mattand  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:35:23am

re: #318 Belafon

An interesting theory buried in the replies:

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Rodrigo Borgia is the final boss in Assassin’s Creed II. You basically have to kill a Pope with magic powers.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:35:28am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:37:01am
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Mattand  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:39:13am

re: #323 Belafon

BREAKING: The conservative business plaintiffs challenging the ACA preventative care coverage mandate in a Texas case — the PrEP case — ask US District Judge Reed O’Connor to toss out ALL of the Preventative Services Task Force “A and B” coverage recommendations made since 2010.

Jesus Fucking Christ, 12 years later and they’re still at it.

Although they stuck with it with abortion for nearly 50 and that eventually paid off.

Got to hand it to Republicans: if there’s a way to make people (usually poor or non-white) suffer their followthrough is amazing.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:42:57am

re: #325 Mattand

Straight up boiling frogs in water approach. And there’s too many people who don’t realize or care what GOPers are doing until after they’ve already reached their goal.

They did it with Trump and the GOP packing the court to overturn Roe in Dobbs, and they’re still at it to gut Obamacare and they’ve got a shot at doing so thanks to right wingers on the federal bench who’ll ignore the law and stare decisis and legislate from the bench when they couldn’t overturn the law legislatively or any time previously in the Courts.

GOP will not stop until they shred the safety net, roll back civil and voting rights, and women’s rights all while delivering tax cuts for the rich and burdens to everyone else.

That’s their core position. They rely on the hate and misogyny to keep their base engaged and enraged, all while slashing and burning the safety net that these same people rely upon.

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Mattand  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:43:22am

re: #281 Nyet

The notion that Jesus’ words were being faithfully transmitted at the same time as his bio was undergoing huge distortions seems to be prima facie implausible.

That also assumes he was a real person as well.

I often wonder if there was a real guy who was a political rebel who got executed for his views, and over the millennia, his followers burnished his rep to the point he eventually turned into a god with superpowers.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:45:10am

Thread, basically think of the prerelease of the abortion ruling to force the hands of those signing it, but unlike the Republicans on the SCOTUS, the Progressive Caucus said “No, it wasn’t time and I’m withdrawing my support”:

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Mattand  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:50:56am

re: #326 lawhawk

Straight up boiling frogs in water approach. And there’s too many people who don’t realize or care what GOPers are doing until after they’ve already reached their goal.

They did it with Trump and the GOP packing the court to overturn Roe in Dobbs, and they’re still at it to gut Obamacare and they’ve got a shot at doing so thanks to right wingers on the federal bench who’ll ignore the law and stare decisis and legislate from the bench when they couldn’t overturn the law legislatively or any time previously in the Courts.

GOP will not stop until they shred the safety net, roll back civil and voting rights, and women’s rights all while delivering tax cuts for the rich and burdens to everyone else.

That’s their core position. They rely on the hate and misogyny to keep their base engaged and enraged, all while slashing and burning the safety net that these same people rely upon.

I was sorta thinking about this last night regarding the Fetterman-Oz debate. I didn’t watch it, but the reports are that Fetterman really labored to get his points across, due to his current condition.

And it’s like, normally, I’d give pause to electing anyone with an obvious health issue, but fucking Carpetbagger Oz literally said that local politicians should be involved in a woman’s decision to have an abortion.

I mean, just fucking straight up said “Government should have a say in how you control your body.”

Oz has zero experience in government, is a snake oil salesman of the highest level, is carpetbagging in PA, and literally said politicians should be allowed to interfere in a woman’s health care.

And fucking people are gonna be like “Yeah, that guy is better than the one with all the experience who a year from now will most likely be fine.”

Talk about boiling frogs. We’re over as a functioning democracy, if we ever were one. We just don’t know it yet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:51:29am

re: #265 Teukka

They’re really insistent about the dirteh bumb narrative. Which is worrying…

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I wonder what the odds are that they would bomb their own people and blame Ukraine as a pretext for escalating the conflict?

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:52:35am

re: #330 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder what the odds are that they would bomb their own people and blame Ukraine as a pretext for escalating the conflict?

Slightly lower than them blowing up the spent fuel storage at Zaporizhzhia?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:55:02am

re: #331 Teukka

Slightly lower than them blowing up the spent fuel storage at Zaporizhzhia?

Yeah, I just saw that Tweet. I’d forgotten they still controlled the plant.

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:56:49am

re: #327 Mattand

That also assumes he was a real person as well.

I often wonder if there was a real guy who was a political rebel who got executed for his views, and over the millennia, his followers burnished his rep to the point he eventually turned into a god with superpowers.

There were probably dozens of political rebels who got executed; a composite wouldn’t be unreasonable.

Supposedly descended from King David? Considering how many wives David had, and then how many wives and concubines King Solomon had, 30 generations later it’s likely that almost everybody within 200 miles is descended from David.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 6:56:49am

So we’re going to see GOP candidates all ahead on Election Day, and then things will turn against them overnight.

And then the screaming match will start, witnesses will come forward and affidavits will be filed on massive shady midnight ballot drops and Chinese/Venezuelan manipulation as part of election fraud on the part of the Democrats on a scale unparalleled.

But this time, the GOP election officials will heed the complaints and throw all those contested ballots out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:00:08am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wonder how many districts are still using Dominion voting machines?

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:03:12am

re: #217 Captain Ron

Star Trek animation stole the kzinti.

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Stole? Larry Niven wrote the episode you reference. Since he’s also the creator of the kzinti, it’s hardly theft. (There’s a reference in ST: Picard to trouble with the kzinti, but nothing has come of it yet.)

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:04:49am

earlier we discussed Senators who’d had strokes while in office, and they recovered and they’re still there doing their jobs.

Why don’t Senators Lujan and Van Hollan step forward to speak on Fetterman’s behalf?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:05:29am

CNN you suck.

And now there was a Reddit post in support of him, claiming they were part of the jury, but of course it was BS. Now this POS is demanding a mistrial. “This is obviously someone with intimate knowledge!!!”. Uh. Everyone watching this trial knows more than the jury does. I’ll be glad when this guy is put away forever.

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:09:06am
Will Russell T Davies be the saviour of Doctor Who? With Jodie Whittaker’s stint as the two-hearted Time Lord having come to a close, the BBC is surely hoping so. Her casting came with so much promise, but Whittaker leaves the show with dwindling viewing figures, lost fans and the overarching sense that showrunner Chris Chibnall really did her dirty. So why not bring back Davies, the man responsible for reviving the show in 2005, at a point when Doctor Who desperately needs a reset? Already, it looks like the plan might be working. Davies marked his return during Sunday’s episode with a major surprise. David Tennant would be returning as the Doctor for three episodes before Ncuti Gatwa takes the reins. For the first time in a long while, people are actually talking about the show again.

Can Russell T Davies fix what Chris Chibnall broke in Doctor Who? (Independent)

Backup MSN link because the Independent story is sometimes paywalled.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:11:03am

3/6 today

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:12:07am

re: #335 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder how many districts are still using Dominion voting machines?

Only the ones who have had time to send them to Venezuela to get their satellite dish vote alteration software updated.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:16:08am

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:19:51am

re: #342 Teukka

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Reminds me of the meme with the Windows dialog box where the message reads: “The operation has terminated due to error: Success”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:20:27am

re: #342 Teukka

“I punched him right in the fist with my face!”

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:27:41am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So we’re going to see GOP candidates all ahead on Election Day, and then things will turn against them overnight.

And then the screaming match will start, witnesses will come forward and affidavits will be filed on massive shady midnight ballot drops and Chinese/Venezuelan manipulation as part of election fraud on the part of the Democrats on a scale unparalleled.

But this time, the GOP election officials will heed the complaints and throw all those contested ballots out.

I’m not sure Republicans are going to be true in a lot of places. I’m seeing plenty of early voting turnout among Democrats.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:29:33am

re: #345 Belafon

I’m not sure Republicans are going to be true in a lot of places. I’m seeing plenty of early voting turnout among Democrats.

I thought most places had Election Day ballots being counted first, especially in red and purple states.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:31:09am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:31:32am

re: #238 Nyet

A Russian priest baptizes soldiers in bodybags.

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So they are really Mormon. Mormons like to do that kind of thing with dead people.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:31:35am

re: #346 Dopamine Fish

I thought most places had Election Day ballots being counted first, especially in red and purple states.

That’s right. I’m thinking of people standing in line in places like Houston where Democrats have waited for hours to vote, and I’m hoping they’re voting early now.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:35:42am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So we’re going to see GOP candidates all ahead on Election Day, and then things will turn against them overnight.

And then the screaming match will start, witnesses will come forward and affidavits will be filed on massive shady midnight ballot drops and Chinese/Venezuelan manipulation as part of election fraud on the part of the Democrats on a scale unparalleled.

But this time, the GOP election officials will heed the complaints and throw all those contested ballots out.

Then Marc Elias will defeat them in court.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:36:14am

re: #266 Nyet

Sex bomb
Sex bomb
You dirty sex bomb

Bora Bora 2000/Love Bomb

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:38:07am

Salsa makers should be forced to write the Scoville units on the jars rather than using mild, medium, or hot.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:38:33am

re: #306 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:41:19am

BRUH.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:42:57am

re: #345 Belafon

I’m not sure Republicans are going to be true in a lot of places. I’m seeing plenty of early voting turnout among Democrats.

But that is the catch: early votes are counted last.

That was the case in 2020, it was part of DT’s strategy: to declare victory on Election Night and then declare fraud when the Democratic vote count overtook him.

It nearly worked.

And 2022 is going to the the GOP dress rehearsal for 2024.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:43:38am

re: #348 Eventual Carrion

So they are really Mormon. Mormons like to do that kind of thing with dead people.

Headline is confusing. He is using body bags as a baptismal font. Not baptizing corpses.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:46:28am

re: #354 Teukka

BRUH.

Definitely raises questions.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:46:33am

If you have been paying attention for the last four decades, you will not be surprised to learn that the GOP’s plan to reduce inflation is tax cuts for the rich.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:47:24am

re: #358 No Malarkey!

If you have been paying attention for the last four decades, you will not be surprised to learn that the GOP’s plan to reduce inflation is tax cuts for the rich.

Just think of how low inflation will be if the peasants have no money.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:50:11am

re: #357 Belafon

Definitely raises questions.

Moscow is the Third Rome, so Zelensky has to be the Third Antichrist.

Purely Logical

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 7:51:36am

re: #358 No Malarkey!

If you have been paying attention for the last four decades, you will not be surprised to learn that the GOP’s plan to reduce inflation is tax cuts for the rich.

That is their plan for everything, along with cutting government spending, curtailing environmental, health & safety regulations, and banning books & abortion.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:00:53am
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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:02:40am

re: #362 lawhawk

I wonder who is present with the lawyers in the courtroom to represent the Trump Organization. Either of the failsons there?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:03:16am

Waukesha verdict. He’s fucked.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:09:35am

re: #358 No Malarkey!

If you have been paying attention for the last four decades, you will not be surprised to learn that the GOP’s plan to reduce inflation is tax cuts for the rich.

Because Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthy have worked so well in fighting inflation, amirite?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:11:32am

re: #364 GlutenFreeJesus

Waukesha verdict. He’s fucked.

I joked yesterday it’d take the jury all of 15 minutes. Maybe I wasn’t so far off…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:12:37am

re: #365 Patricia Kayden

Because Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthy have worked so well in fighting inflation, amirite?

They were as effective as the Bush tax cuts were.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:12:43am

This gives me hope: Georgia is smashing early voting records.

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:12:57am

re: #366 Dr Lizardo

I joked yesterday it’d take the jury all of 15 minutes. Maybe I wasn’t so far off…..

usually it takes at least through lunch.

Unless the jurors have heard from other jurors on other cases that this courthouse orders bad lunches; then they’re quicker.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:14:26am

re: #343 Dopamine Fish

Reminds me of the meme with the Windows dialog box where the message reads: “The operation has terminated due to error: Success”

Who is this General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:15:31am

re: #368 No Malarkey!

The media is all in on a ‘Dems are gonna lose hugely” bend so it’s nice to hear good news once in a blue moon.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:15:48am

re: #369 sagehen

usually it takes at least through lunch.

Unless the jurors have heard from other jurors on other cases that this courthouse orders bad lunches; then they’re quicker.

“Say, what’s for lunch ‘round here?”

“I dunno what they call it, but I’m pretty sure it’s leftover economy-class airline food.”

“Fuck that noise. GUILTY!! Now let’s go to that Chinese place down the street.”

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:17:11am

re: #366 Dr Lizardo

I joked yesterday it’d take the jury all of 15 minutes. Maybe I wasn’t so far off…..

It took just under 3 hours to go through all 76 counts. First six are homicide counts.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:18:25am

re: #356 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Headline is confusing. He is using body bags as a baptismal font. Not baptizing corpses.

Yeah I saw that after I made my comment.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:20:57am

re: #373 lawhawk

It took just under 3 hours to go through all 76 counts. First six are homicide counts.

Fast jury means one of two things: Guilty as fuck, or not guilty on everything.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:21:49am

re: #375 Dopamine Fish

Fast jury means one of two things: Guilty as fuck, or not guilty on everything.

Not a chance in Hell of “not guilty” in this case.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:22:44am

re: #375 Dopamine Fish

Fast jury means one of two things: Guilty as fuck, or not guilty on everything.

re: #376 No Malarkey!

Not a chance in Hell of “not guilty” in this case.

I’d be genuinely flabbergasted if the jury returned a not guilty verdict.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:23:08am

re: #376 No Malarkey!

Not a chance in Hell of “not guilty” in this case.

Yeah. I figured, given the open-and-shut nature of the case, and the shitshow of his pro se defense, that it would be fast. 3 hours for 76 charges is… seems like a land speed record, to me.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:28:48am

re: #378 Dopamine Fish

Yeah. I figured, given the open-and-shut nature of the case, and the shitshow of his pro se defense, that it would be fast. 3 hours for 76 charges is… seems like a land speed record, to me.

Not every day you see a defendant build a little box fort for hiding themselves at their table.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:28:59am

Following on the heels of the Waukesha shitshow, as well:

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:30:13am

Current Mood:

Richard Thompson - 1952 Vincent Black Lightning

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:38:32am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:41:26am

What a scummy, miserable little fuckbag—>

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:43:11am

re: #383 The Pie Overlord!

What a scummy, miserable little fuckbag—>

He needs to worry about his and his own family’s mental and physical well being rather than someone else’s.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:45:23am

re: #299 Teukka

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drive.google.com

I friggin’ want off of this timeline…

The article did mention the most prominent member of this group — Stalin favorite Lysenko. We studied him in high school and even then it was understood he set back Russian progress in the area for decades. It is shocking and surprising to read that this ignorant pseudo scientist has made a comeback.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:45:46am

re: #368 No Malarkey!

This gives me hope: Georgia is smashing early voting records.

As long as those votes get counted.

Again, early votes are counted last so the GOP will likely be ahead on Election Night and then MULE-O-MANIA will strike and those nefarious Democrats will “steal” the election!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:46:39am

re: #377 Dr Lizardo

I’d be genuinely flabbergasted if the jury returned a not guilty verdict.

Unless Not Guilty due to diminished capacity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:48:45am

re: #385 Hecuba’s daughter

The article did mention the most prominent member of this group — Stalin favorite Lysenko. We studied him in high school and even then it was understood he set back Russian progress in the area for decades. It is shocking and surprising to read that this ignorant pseudo scientist has made a comeback.

Pseudoscience in general has made a comeback. After all, most modern “science” is the province of college educated elites.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:49:55am

re: #386 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As long as those votes get counted.

Again, early votes are counted last so the GOP will likely be ahead on Election Night and then MULE-O-MANIA will strike and those nefarious Democrats will “steal” the election!!!

Raffensperger is still SoS in Georgia. he may be a Republican, but he refused to “find” votes for Trump in 2020.

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:51:13am

Didn’t the legislature pass some new laws that he has less authority now than he used to?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2022 • 8:54:16am

Guilty of first degree intentional homicide on count one.

Guilty of first degree intentional homicide on count two.

Guilty of first degree intentional homicide on count three.

Etc.

VERDICT: WI v. Darrell Brooks - Waukesha Parade Defendant Trial Day 15

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:00:35am

re: #320 Eventual Carrion

4/6 on guesses today. Could have been 3 but I picked incorrectly.

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A lot of people made that same guess first.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:02:53am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I feel compelled to point out that Ukraine surrendered its nuclear arsenal against exchanges of guarantees of territorial integrity. From both Russia and the West.

Seems only fair that since they have reneged on that deal that Ukraine should get its nukes back….

/

One thing the Russians have accomplished: It will be a thousand years before any other nation state voluntarily gives up nuclear weapons. Indeed, the whole non-proliferation regime is in shambles. We might see dozens of new nuclear weapons states in the next few years.
Objections like “they don’t have the fissionables” are complete bullshit designed to re-assure any member of the public who might have been paying attention. South Africa invented a new uranium enrichment process from scratch in the 1980s and used it to make 7 fission bombs. There are large stocks of plutonium all over the world, supposedly under international control but in fact there for the grabbing by any host nation that is willing to defy the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Sweden physically transfered its sizable stock of plutonium to the US when it was placed under IAEA control and many Swedes are wishing they had it back. Sweden had a large nuclear weapons program in the 50s and there is no doubt they could build a workable bomb in a matter of days if they somehow got the material.
Physical transfer of the material is not usual, though. Many IAEA stocks stay in the host country in the theoretical custody of IAEA but neither secure nor inaccessible in a physical sense.
As for the rest, this is 80 year old tech, people. Anyone who gets the material can make the bomb.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:02:56am

re: #325 Mattand

Jesus Fucking Christ, 12 years later and they’re still at it.

Although they stuck with it with abortion for nearly 50 and that eventually paid off.

Got to hand it to Republicans: if there’s a way to make people (usually poor or non-white) suffer their followthrough is amazing.

Yep. They are devoted to restoring the era of Jim Crow — but making it nationwide. It is appalling to see how so many are eager to accept this racism.

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A Cranky One  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:04:48am

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:09:31am

re: #393 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Needless to say, Cheeto and his MAGA band jump-started proliferation when they abandoned the nuclear deal with Russian ally Iran, greenlighting the mullahs to resume their program. They are reported to be making good progress.

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:09:45am

re: #393 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

One thing the Russians have accomplished: It will be a thousand years before any other nation state voluntarily gives up nuclear weapons. Indeed, the whole non-proliferation regime is in shambles. We might see dozens of new nuclear weapons states in the next few years.
Objections like “they don’t have the fissionables” are complete bullshit designed to re-assure any member of the public who might have been paying attention. South Africa invented a new uranium enrichment process from scratch in the 1980s and used it to make 7 fission bombs. There are large stocks of plutonium all over the world, supposedly under international control but in fact there for the grabbing by any host nation that is willing to defy the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Sweden physically transfered its sizable stock of plutonium to the US when it was placed under IAEA control and many Swedes are wishing they had it back. Sweden had a large nuclear weapons program in the 50s and there is no doubt they could build a workable bomb in a matter of days if they somehow got the material.
Physical transfer of the material is not usual, though. Many IAEA stocks stay in the host country in the theoretical custody of IAEA but neither secure nor inaccessible in a physical sense.
As for the rest, this is 80 year old tech, people. Anyone who gets the material can make the bomb.

Fission weapons are dirt simple, I learned that in the 80’s from open sources. There was a big error in what we thought about Little Boy’s design but that’s in the open now too. But simple implosion - not very efficient like the fancy explosive lenses of American bombs but _SIMPLE_ - will work and get almost as much as the Nagasaki device.

Fusion is still much more difficult but not really necessary in any real way for a weapon of last resort.

Little Boy

Fat Man

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:10:50am

re: #389 No Malarkey!

Raffensperger is still SoS in Georgia. he may be a Republican, but he refused to “find” votes for Trump in 2020.

That is good news for Georgia voters, but that won’t shut people like Dinesh D’Lollapalooza from screaming to the high heavens.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:11:12am

re: #391 Dr Lizardo

So far, up to count 51 and found guilty on all charges thus far.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:11:14am

re: #337 sagehen

earlier we discussed Senators who’d had strokes while in office, and they recovered and they’re still there doing their jobs.

Why don’t Senators Lujan and Van Hollan step forward to speak on Fetterman’s behalf?

There is also the example of Mark Kirk (fortunate for us — not so much for the GOP) who never completely recovered and led to his making statements in a debate that destroyed his campaign. Hopefully the Oz statements on abortion will be his kryptonite.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:12:19am

re: #395 A Cranky One

Lady Gaga and Mary are both Jewish…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:14:52am

re: #393 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

One thing the Russians have accomplished: It will be a thousand years before any other nation state voluntarily gives up nuclear weapons. Indeed, the whole non-proliferation regime is in shambles. We might see dozens of new nuclear weapons states in the next few years.
.

DT trashing the Iran nuclear deal was also a much bigger fiasco in light of all this…

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:15:34am

re: #369 sagehen

usually it takes at least through lunch.

Unless the jurors have heard from other jurors on other cases that this courthouse orders bad lunches; then they’re quicker.

Having sat on a jury for a case that belonged on Judge Judy and not in the courtroom — I can attest that is true!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:21:09am

Brooks found guilty on all counts.

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:21:40am

re: #401 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lady Gaga and Mary are both Jewish…

Nope. Lady G. (born Stephanie Germanotta) is pure Italian-American.

But then, so might Mary be, in a lot of folks’ imagination…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:28:13am

re: #404 Dr Lizardo

I’m disappointed he didn’t act out. Seeing him tackled and tazed would have been the icing on the cake.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:30:01am

re: #406 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m disappointed he didn’t act out. Seeing him tackled and tazed would have been the icing on the cake.

I think he was too busy regretting acting as his own attorney.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:35:07am

re: #407 Dr Lizardo

I think he was too busy regretting acting as his own attorney.

Again, he was just annoyed that he was taken to task for what he did, he felt that he was doing his patriotic duty

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:39:21am

re: #395 A Cranky One

Once again — efforts to reconstruct the appearance of an actual person from 2000 years ago without any contemporaneous descriptions or pictures or remains or descendants. Maybe a picture of a random person from that time — not necessarily a typical person — but that’s the best that is possible

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:40:27am

re: #407 Dr Lizardo

I think he was too busy regretting acting as his own attorney.

He still thinks the Reddit thing will save him. 😂

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:40:41am

re: #395 A Cranky One

[Embedded content]

From what, numerology of her statements in the New Testament?

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:45:56am
413
Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:46:40am
414
Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:47:03am

re: #413 Teukka

So… How big nukes can be put on Iskanders?

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:49:49am

re: #397 William Lewis

Fission weapons are dirt simple, I learned that in the 80’s from open sources. There was a big error in what we thought about Little Boy’s design but that’s in the open now too. But simple implosion - not very efficient like the fancy explosive lenses of American bombs but _SIMPLE_ - will work and get almost as much as the Nagasaki device.

Fusion is still much more difficult but not really necessary in any real way for a weapon of last resort.

Little Boy

Fat Man

Little boy is a gun type device, which is very simple to construct compare to an implosion device. So easy that it’s a question of time before some terrorist uses a gun-type device.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:50:45am

re: #413 Teukka

re: #414 Teukka

So… How big nukes can be put on Iskanders?

There are a couple of issues… First of all, an atomic bomb contains fissile material, not just any radioactive material. And even if blown to bits, which fissile material can be deduced with a gamma spectrometer, which is pretty much a standard tool in terms of radiation research world-wide.
Another thing is that the origin of the fissile material can also be deduced based on the gamma spectrum. Different countries use slightly different processes, meaning the resulting gamma spectrum is different and can be used to point the finger as to which country’s fissile material was used.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:51:05am

re: #412 Belafon

Rightwing logic: It’s my body. Don’t you dare tell me to get vaccinated or wear a mask or practice social distancing!!

Rightwing logic: It’s your body but I get to dictate what you do with it if you get pregnant because of my privately held religious beliefs. If you get an abortion, you’re going to jail!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:51:44am

re: #415 Teukka

Little boy is a gun type device, which is very simple to construct compare to an implosion device. So easy that it’s a question of time before some terrorist uses a gun-type device.

A terrorist is planning on using one — namely Putin. Wonder if he will time it to affect our election?

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:53:15am

re: #415 Teukka

Little boy is a gun type device, which is very simple to construct compare to an implosion device. So easy that it’s a question of time before some terrorist uses a gun-type device.

The problem with gun-type devices is that they are relatively large and unwieldy. It’s feasible to put one in a bomb (hell, we did, after all), but I don’t know how feasible it is to package one as a warhead-sized payload for any reasonably sized missile.

420
ericblair  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:53:51am

Ask Megs here whether her sainted father should have been in the Senate in his last few years.

Oh, did you know her dad was John McCain? No way!

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:54:42am

re: #419 Dopamine Fish

The problem with gun-type devices is that they are relatively large and unwieldy. It’s feasible to put one in a bomb (hell, we did, after all), but I don’t know how feasible it is to package one as a warhead-sized payload for any reasonably sized missile.

Also, they’re prone to go off uncommandedly if memory serves me right. It would be more a truck-bomb sorta affair…

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:55:06am

re: #418 Hecuba’s daughter

A terrorist is planning on using one — namely Putin. Wonder if he will time it to affect our election?

He and his Kremlin Krew appear insane enough to try…

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:55:32am

re: #413 Teukka

Ah, so that’s Russia’s plan. Nice of them to give us all a heads-up as to what they’re gonna do.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:56:34am
German supermarkets are among those blaming inflation on corporate greed—and in particular they’re pointing a finger at Mars, the same company a top Senate Budget Committee staffer called out for price increases caused by corporate greed, not necessity. Rather than paying the prices they don’t think are reasonable, the supermarkets are simply leaving shelves bare.

“Dear customers: we are sorry to inform you that we can’t currently offer all the products of our supplier Mars GmbH,” a note in one German supermarket read, AFP News reported recently. A spokesperson for the Edeka supermarket chain, one of Germany’s biggest, told AFP, “Many international brands are trying to take advantage of inflation to charge excessive prices in order to increase their profits,” and specifically called Mars’ recent price increases “unjustified.”

Both Edeka and its top rival, Rewe, have stopped buying 300 different Mars products, from candy bars to cat food. Rewe has also stopped buying cereals from Kellogg’s rather than agreeing to a 30% price increase.

Seriously, the U.S. media won’t even talk about how corporations are raising prices to boost profits rather than because of rising manufacturing costs, and here are German supermarket chains refusing to do business with some major U.S. companies over exactly that issue.

dailykos.com

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danarchy  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:57:41am

re: #414 Teukka

So… How big nukes can be put on Iskanders?

Think they are talking dirty bomb not nuke. I suppose if Russia plans to false flag a dirty bomb, doing it in Chernobyl makes sense since it is already contaminated.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:58:07am

re: #413 Teukka

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The Ukrainians are going to do something pointless for what reason? //

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:59:14am

re: #421 Teukka

Also, they’re prone to go off uncommandedly if memory serves me right. It would be more a truck-bomb sorta affair…

Yeah, exactly. The fact is, assembling an actual fission bomb and using it in an impromptu terrorist attack is rather unfeasible for several reasons. Size and weight dimensions are one thing; another is procuring enough highly enriched uranium (plutonium won’t work with a gun-type device; that was one of the key breakthroughs of the implosion device), which is monitored so tightly that even asking about it will get you an impromptu visit from the FBI; the damn thing will set off radiation alarms any place you drive past, and there are a surprising amount of those in places you might not expect; it could go off just by hitting the wrong pothole on the way to the target.

It is far more practical for a would-be nuclear terrorist, like Putin, to simply take some old spent nuclear waste, wrap it around a pile of conventional explosives, and detonate it. It’s a lot easier to come by, a lot less tracked and regulated, and has more of a terror effect as far as fears of radiation, without the mass death and destruction of a full-on nuclear blast. THAT is the one we should all worry about.

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2022 • 9:59:17am

re: #424 Belafon

Of course US media isn’t going to covering this issue with anything even approaching an objective eye: after all, calling out big corporations over price-gouging is, well, un-American!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:05:03am

I swear to God, if Fetterman loses because too many people are concerned about his health, I’m going to go fucking crazy.

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ericblair  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:09:45am

re: #426 Belafon

The Ukrainians are going to do something pointless for what reason? //

The Ukrainians are going to sort-of nuke themselves to make Russia look bad on TV. Just like the Syrians would gas themselves to make Russia look bad on TV. Poor, poor Russia.

431
Dangerman  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:10:08am

re: #359 Belafon

Just think of how low inflation will be if the peasants have no money. there are less peasants

432
Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:10:29am

re: #412 Belafon

Because having feelings or concern for those other than themselves is totally foreign to a repub.

433
William Lewis  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:10:44am

re: #415 Teukka

Little boy is a gun type device, which is very simple to construct compare to an implosion device. So easy that it’s a question of time before some terrorist uses a gun-type device.

Only now that we know the proper way to assemble it in open sources and if you have the ability to machine flammable metals. Not saying you’re wrong, just adding details.

434
Belafon  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:11:07am

re: #431 Dangerman

Strangely, that causes more inflation, since the rich can’t pit peasants against each other.

435
Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:13:14am

re: #413 Teukka

Wow, they seem to know a lot about their supposed plans for this. Yet they have been totally in the dark about all the other things Ukraine have been doing to kick their ass.

436
William Lewis  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:14:58am

re: #419 Dopamine Fish

The problem with gun-type devices is that they are relatively large and unwieldy. It’s feasible to put one in a bomb (hell, we did, after all), but I don’t know how feasible it is to package one as a warhead-sized payload for any reasonably sized missile.

They made gun type warheads for nuclear artillery. W33 because the width of an implosion device was too much for artillery until they came up with linear implosion.

437
Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:15:44am

re: #436 William Lewis

They made gun type warheads for nuclear artillery. W33 because the width of an implosion device was too much for artillery until they came up with linear implosion.

Huh. I did not know those were gun-type devices. TIL.

438
The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:16:12am

PLAIIOS!S!!S!!!

439
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:16:15am

re: #417 Patricia Kayden

Rightwing logic: It’s my body. Don’t you dare tell me to get vaccinated or wear a mask or practice social distancing!!

Rightwing logic: It’s your body but I get to dictate what you do with it if you get pregnant because of my privately held religious beliefs. If you get an abortion, you’re going to jail!!

Rightwing logic: women are vessel’s of God’s will. Men are enactors of God’s will. Therefore women are chattel: property of their fathers until marriage and of their husbands after that.

440
Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:17:02am

re: #425 danarchy

Think they are talking dirty bomb not nuke. I suppose if Russia plans to false flag a dirty bomb, doing it in Chernobyl makes sense since it is already contaminated.

Well, the Russians seem to weave the tall tale that Ukrainians will pretend to shoot a nuclear-tipped missile down… You can easily tell the difference as to what warhead a missile has…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:18:02am

re: #420 ericblair

If Fetterman was a GOPer, his campaign would be over.

Grain of truth in there: If Fetterman was running against someone who was less of a megadick than Dr Oz, his campaign would likely be over by now.

442
Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:18:56am
443
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:19:37am

re: #423 Dr Lizardo

Ah, so that’s Russia’s plan. Nice of them to give us all a heads-up as to what they’re gonna do.

Again, Russians know that any sort of nuclear event is going to put people on edge and have a psychological effect much greater than any physical one simply by lowering the perceived nuclear threshold in Europe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:20:33am

re: #426 Belafon

The Ukrainians are going to do something pointless for what reason? //

Because they are Zionist Nazi Soros puppet pedophiles.

///

445
BeenHereAwhile  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:21:19am

re: #291 Teukka

Also, remember how penile endowment contests usually end…

Someone totally unknown comes out of nowhere, whips his out and makes the others cry…

S. Clay Wilson comix.

446
Crush White Nationalism  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:21:28am

re: #438 The Pie Overlord!

447
William Lewis  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:21:31am

re: #437 Dopamine Fish

Huh. I did not know those were gun-type devices. TIL.

There was a book by John McPhee called “The Curve of Binding Energy” (1974!) about the nuclear weapon designer Ted Taylor and his fears about proliferation. He referred to designing artillery warheads as “whacking away at Hiroshima” because they were so brain dead simple to make.

The whole book has many hints about how to design a nuke even though it was cleared by the AEC and the Taylor himself was concerned about giving away info. I learned a lot from it.

448
Mattand  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:22:44am

re: #444 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because they are Zionist Nazi Soros puppet pedophiles.

///

I’m still waiting for my Soros payment for being a loyal liberal lackey. I switched to direct deposit and still haven’t seen shit.

449
Teukka  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:24:16am

re: #444 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because they are Zionist Nazi Soros puppet pedophiles.

///

Like, why manufacture an atrocity when the legit atrocities committed by Russian controlled forces are more than enough on their own?

450
lawhawk  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:24:47am

re: #448 Mattand

I’m still waiting for my Soros payment for being a loyal liberal lackey. I switched to direct deposit and still haven’t seen shit.

They’ve moved on to blockchain, NFTs, and crypto.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:28:21am

re: #448 Mattand

I’m still waiting for my Soros payment for being a loyal liberal lackey. I switched to direct deposit and still haven’t seen shit.

They will telepathically send you coordinates to where you can find a secret stash of Bitcoins.

452
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:31:05am

re: #441 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Grain of truth in there: If Fetterman was running against someone who was less of a megadick than Dr Oz, his campaign would likely be over by now.

She is blowing smoke. If Fetterman was GOP they’d still be supporting him to the hilt. They figure if he gets better he does, if he doesn’t the fact that it’s a GOP seat would require a GOP replacement.

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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:32:36am

re: #451 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will telepathically send you coordinates to where you can find a secret stash of Bitcoins.

My 93 yo mom in law asked me what an nft was

I said it’s nothing

454
Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:33:03am

re: #453 Dangerman

My 93 yo mom in law asked me what an nft was

I said it’s nothing

Well, at least you didn’t lie to her.

455
A Cranky One  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:44:16am

456
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:45:54am

someone worthy of being featured on this site:

“If You Were Someone I Loved” - S.G. Goodman

457
A Cranky One  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:49:51am

re: #409 Hecuba’s daughter

Once again — efforts to reconstruct the appearance of an actual person from 2000 years ago without any contemporaneous descriptions or pictures or remains or descendants. Maybe a picture of a random person from that time — not necessarily a typical person — but that’s the best that is possible

It’s obviously not based on any real evidence. However, it’s also possible Mary was actually Lady Gaga. After all, have you ever seen them in the same room together?

458
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:50:54am

re: #457 A Cranky One

It’s obviously not based on any real evidence. However, it’s also possible Mary was actually Lady Gaga. After all, have you ever seen them in the same room together?

They were both caught in a Bad Romance…

459
The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:51:44am

Um… zombie spiders is a bad idea, mmkay

460
gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:52:41am
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Captain Ron  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:53:47am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2022 • 10:55:38am

hi.

There was discussion a couple days ago about “why would illicit cocaine manufacturers cut it with fentanyl?” I’m catching up on my more recent editions of The Economist, and they explained that (and the larger failure of Nixon’s “war on drugs”) on October 12, 2022. (The on-line edition includes a person reading the article with a British accent. I don’t want a person reading an article to me when I’m perusing my bathroom magazine rack … that would be too weird.)

Joe Biden is too timid. It is time to legalise cocaine

The costs of prohibition outweigh the benefits (with audio reading of the print article, 5:17)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 26, 2022 • 11:06:27am

re: #150 Jay C

Same
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Nyet  Oct 26, 2022 • 11:10:44am

re: #348 Eventual Carrion

So they are really Mormon. Mormons like to do that kind of thing with dead people.

They’re not dead people during the baptism, so no comparison.

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2022 • 11:18:17am

re: #395 A Cranky One

[Embedded content]

I saw that and immediately thought “Who’s doing Lady Gaga portraits, and why?”

Then I read the intro. Who knew Mary was Italian? Maybe that’s why the Pope’s in Rome!

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John Hughes  Oct 26, 2022 • 11:47:32am

re: #461 Captain Ron

Deer in the headlights.


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