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dat_said  Sep 27, 2023 • 10:52:58am

Merriam-Webster does new words.

I always thought TFW meant “too fucking weird” though. I’ll be spending the rest of the day trying to zhuzh up.

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2023 • 10:53:58am

Mastodon

Interesting result, because this had been up in the air (heh) for a while. I think this result was expected, and not some anti-gravity reaction, otherwise you could have gotten some really bizarre behavior.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2023 • 10:57:01am

‘They’re already putting this plan into action’: The chilling truth about Project 2025’s radical agenda
msnbc.com

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2023 • 10:57:10am

If/when the House GOP shuts down the government, remember that it is the extremist GOP that did this. They’re the ones defunding law enforcement and DHS and CBP.

Know who says this? Noted flaming progressive liberal Mitch McConnell (R-KY/Hellmouth)

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dat_said  Sep 27, 2023 • 10:57:40am

Business Insider: Linda Yaccarino was blindsided by Elon Musk’s tweet announcing he had found a new Twitter CEO, and had to leave a meeting to tell her boss she was joining Twitter

Although she had told Musk she’d take the job that morning, Yaccarino had little idea that Musk would make any sort of public announcement, the FT reported, adding that she not yet arranged her departure from NBC and had told Musk she needed several weeks to do so.

The then-chairman of global advertising then dashed out of rehearsals and speak to Comcast president Michael Cavanagh to explain the situation, according to unnamed sources cited by the Financial Times.

Musk - always doing the thoughtful thing

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:00:40am

re: #5 dat_said

Business Insider: Linda Yaccarino was blindsided by Elon Musk’s tweet announcing he had found a new Twitter CEO, and had to leave a meeting to tell her boss she was joining Twitter

Musk - always doing the thoughtful thing

The guy does manage to stay on brand, I’ll give him that.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:01:14am
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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:05:09am

re: #7 Backwoods Sleuth

I had one of those that was recalled, but it took MONTHS to replace it because the list of machines was so long.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:05:32am

Is there supposed to be a link attached to the image in the header?

When I click on it doesn’t connect to anywhere.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:09:16am

Iowa Was a Wind Energy Leader—Then Memes Slowed Its Clean Energy Transition
After years of growth, Iowa’s wind industry is facing local opposition fueled by misinformation.
by Molly Taft
distilled.earth

… some of the most significant changes at the local level in one of the country’s most wind-heavy states are happening free of any obvious or direct dark money influence. In Iowa, grassroots activists are using the power of social media to help organize to pass policies that will significantly slow the transition to clean energy.

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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:10:07am
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Dangerman  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:12:22am

re: #311 lawhawk

Blaming shrinkage is a longstanding way that companies distract and deflect from structural issues with corporate decisions that haven’t worked out, and key on media focus on crime.

basically a way of saying ” not my fault “
For the results
While conveniently ignoring whose job loss prevention is

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:13:41am
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lizardofid  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:14:45am

re: #2 ericblair

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Interesting result, because this had been up in the air (heh) for a while. I think this result was expected, and not some anti-gravity reaction, otherwise you could have gotten some really bizarre behavior.

But, to quote David Wooderson, “it would be a whole lot cooler if you did”.

//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:14:54am

re: #13 Backwoods Sleuth

It makes no sense to me why ANYONE would take a Republican at their word these days.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:19:19am

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

It makes no sense to me why ANYONE would take a Republican at their word these days.

Ah but those PRESSTITUTES treat the lies Republicans tell them as the Gospel Truth.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:21:56am

Mastodon

SWARTZ CREEK, Mich. (WNEM) - Five picketing United Auto Workers (UAW) members are recovering after being hit by a car around 4 p.m. Tuesday, Sept. 26.

“These people are just making a living and want a little bigger piece of the pie and this happens. It’s very disturbing,” UAW Region 1D Director Steve Dawes said.

The incident happened near the General Motors Flint Processing Center in Swartz Creek.

“Three people in either a dark blue or a black HHR or possibly PT Cruiser came out of the building, out 70 yards and was driving at a high rate of speed, hit their brake real quick and kept going,” Dawes said. “Ran over five people and sent two to the hospital and three with other injuries.”

Employees from the plant were trying to leave and picketers were blocking the driveway, according to Metro Police Chief Matt Bades. UAW leadership said that was not the case and believed the driver intentionally struck their members.

Bades added the driver fled the area and police are in the process of identifying the driver.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:23:12am

re: #17 Backwoods Sleuth

Nostalgia.

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dat_said  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:27:02am

From emptywheel.net:

Engoran went one by one, describing the properties that Tish James had demonstrated Trump Organization had overvalued:

  • Trump Tower Triplex: 200% inflation of the square footage of Trump’s own residence
  • Seven Springs Estate: value inflated by 400%
  • Trump Park Avenue: 64 to 700% inflation
  • 40 Wall Street: $200 million overvaluation
  • Mar-a-Lago: at least 2,300% overvaluation on Palm Beach’s assessment
  • Aberdeen: overvaluation by ÂŁ164,196
  • TNGC Briarcliff: 300% inflation
  • TTNGLA: 200% inflation
  • Looks like I should be able to get a home equity loan at favorable rates based on my $800,000 to $11,500,000 how-I’m-feeling-today estimated home value.

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    Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:27:37am

    re: #17 Backwoods Sleuth

    [Embedded content]

    The same shit that Pinkertons, scabs and strikebreakers did to Grandma, Great Grandpa and Grandpa Bacon during the CIO organizing drives in the 1930s. They were beaten, blacklisted, threatened and harassed because they dared follow John L Lewis to organize steel, electrical and auto workers into the USW, UE and UAW with a mighty assist from the United Mineworkers.

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    Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:27:51am

    re: #17 Backwoods Sleuth

    But this would be legal in Florida, right?

    Half /

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    Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:29:12am

    re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg

    But this would be legal in Florida, right?

    Half /

    Not only that. Right Wing Jesus would give his Heavenly Assent as well!

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    Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:30:44am

    re: #19 dat_said

    From emptywheel.net:

    Looks like I should be able to get a home equity loan at favorable rates based on my $800,000 to $11,500,000 how-I’m-feeling-today estimated home value.

    “I got $18000 in my bank account, you don’t have to worry!”

    (I have only 18 bucks in my bank account)

    /

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    Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:31:41am

    Someone needs remedial headline writing:

    Trump to visit Macomb County in bid to win over union workers amid auto strike
    Former president to speak at non-unionized facility Wednesday

    clickondetroit.com

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    Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:32:44am

    When Tish James gets done with the Trumps they won’t even be able to get a mortgage on this…

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    PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:35:59am

    re: #25 Joe Bacon ✅

    I certainly hope so.

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    Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:37:24am

    re: #25 Joe Bacon ✅

    When Tish James gets done with the Trumps they won’t even be able to get a mortgage on this…

    [Embedded content]

    Sure they can. When the door is closed you can see the large gilded aluminum “TRUMP” sign.

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    dat_said  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:39:33am

    re: #25 Joe Bacon ✅

    When Tish James gets done with the Trumps they won’t even be able to get a mortgage on this…

    [Embedded content]

    My farm cousins (9 of them) had a two-seater version.

    They were thrilled when my uncle finally installed indoor plumbing around ‘71. They didn’t care that the toilet and shower were in the basement and that my uncle didn’t include interior walls around either one - “you kids can just yell before going down the stairs”.

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    Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:41:03am

    re: #13 Backwoods Sleuth

    [Embedded content]

    Meanwhile, in the world outside the Beltway, Qev just came out today and announced that he won’t bring the Senate CR that has (according to a test vote) a 77 vote bipartisan majority to a vote in the House. That he still intends to force the House to vote on the “Freedumb Caucus” bills that include a plethora of poison pills so then he can spend the next few weeks telling the press every day that if Biden would just comply with the ransom note then everybody would go back to work.

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    Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:51:00am

    See, in past shutdowns, Qev might be in a better (relatively speaking) position because the Senate would either be just as divided as the House or would be locked down by Senate Repubs refusing to entertain any bills other than ones that came from the loonies in the House. But not only is the Senate running, the Senate Repubs have broken with their House counterparts to acknowledge that a government shutdown is a bad idea and there needs to be a short-term CR at current funding levels until the asshats in the House dunk their heads and come around to abiding by the May agreement.

    Thus the Beltway find themselves in a dilemma: How do you “Both Sides” a looming shutdown when it’s not “Both Sides” but instead a small pack of asshats and the Speaker that is doing their bidding to save his own ass? The simple answer appears to be just pumping out the same BS that they’d publish in any other shutdown and hope nobody asks why the House can’t just pass the Senate bill to keep things running.

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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:51:52am

    jeebus

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    Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2023 • 11:56:16am

    Patagonia is like the Southern hemisphere’s version of Siberia.
    babka.social

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    Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:01:44pm

    re: #32 Vicious Babushka

    Patagonia is like the Southern hemisphere’s version of Siberia.

    Islam Channel fined £40,000 over ‘antisemitic’ conspiracy theory documentary

    I keep forgetting which Mastodon instances allow embeds and which don’t.

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    sagehen  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:02:58pm

    re: #32 Vicious Babushka

    Patagonia is like the Southern hemisphere’s version of Siberia.
    mastodon.social

    not at all.

    PBS and BBC nature programs do a lot of Patagonia episodes. It’s stunningly beautiful, varied topography, and awesome wildlife.

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    darthstar  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:03:48pm

    re: #17 Backwoods Sleuth

    Pre Trump rally festivities I suppose. He brings destruction wherever he goes.

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    Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:04:32pm

    re: #7 Backwoods Sleuth

    [Embedded content]

    But the companies will police themselves to protect us, right? No need for those annoying government regulations and inspections.

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    Jay C  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:04:36pm

    re: #25 Joe Bacon ✅

    When Tish James gets done with the Trumps they won’t even be able to get a mortgage on this…

    [Embedded content]

    They probably already have got it mortgaged: for $20 million….

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    PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:06:00pm

    re: #34 sagehen

    Eco-tourism is a growing area/industry. One can make a few dollars in that area.

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    ericblair  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:08:42pm

    re: #13 Backwoods Sleuth

    In May, they cut a deal on spending levels to keep the #GOP from pushing us into default, Republicans are now refusing to honor that deal and reporters rarely mention that key fact. And now they’re telling us that voters want the parties to cut a deal. Fuckinng Hell.

    You’ll note that this is the exact same shit the Russian shills spout about Ukraine. The Russians/GOP agreed to a deal, then broke it, then the BOFF SIDES bad faith chorus shoved it down the memory hole and demanded a new deal now starting where the compromise was in the last one. And over and over.

    Then when their own mountain of lies is about to collapse on top of their heads, the Very Serious People decide that it’s the good guys who have to give the bad guys a face-saving way out. No thanks. They took the easy way out every time and made a deal with the Devil for power, and we all told them that. Consequences are a bitch.

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    aatharuv  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:12:02pm

    re: #166 Teukka

    a04zMk02RG1DNC9jUWpMWkx6d25nc2xvdStmd2xKREYyZXA3SVBVN1p1ND06Og81rJC4x3Jaxizck0gWR1c=

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    aatharuv  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:14:00pm

    re: #25 Joe Bacon ✅

    ZW1UeDMzSVJMWWJVSlhzZmUxb1Uxem16QnZtOHBNOStUWWhZVjdiTFB6Y3pPNE5KWTRycjYxenptc3V5KzBodVdwek5BNW80UGJhNzVkSjJNWkl3ak9pQ2dHRFd1Y0R2QUFWeU5kdy9UVTFlQ3N2V1l6bG9FN29xMXhqU3o1MlB0eG9BZlNUcjVwNkpacUFnbFZPRFNOdWhVZnVFOW1sRnJublZLQzFMallZPTo6gPaZdJbfzNPRJCSWBsOtPA==

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    Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:15:54pm

    re: #33 Vicious Babushka

    It never stops…

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    FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:26:06pm

    re: #39 ericblair

    You’ll note that this is the exact same shit the Russian shills spout about Ukraine. The Russians/GOP agreed to a deal, then broke it, then the BOFF SIDES bad faith chorus shoved it down the memory hole and demanded a new deal now starting where the compromise was in the last one. And over and over.

    Then when their own mountain of lies is about to collapse on top of their heads, the Very Serious People decide that it’s the good guys who have to give the bad guys a face-saving way out. No thanks. They took the easy way out every time and made a deal with the Devil for power, and we all told them that. Consequences are a bitch.

    The “party without agency” still has a lot of agency.

    If The Speaker won’t bring a passable CR to a vote because of reasons associated with the party extremists nothing prevents one of the non-extremists from pulling the trigger on a vote to remove McCarthy. McCarthy is part of the problem for the GOP since he is clearly now putting his grasp on the gavel ahead of the party itself. No one is going to buy the “Biden is to blame” BS.

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    Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:26:13pm

    re: #33 Vicious Babushka

    I keep forgetting which Mastodon instances allow embeds and which don’t.

    In Mastodon’s 3-dot menu, click “Embed.” If it comes up with a preview of the embedded post, it will work. If it shows an error or nothing, it won’t.

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    Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:28:27pm

    re: #25 Joe Bacon ✅

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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:29:38pm
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    darthstar  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:29:49pm

    re: #44 Charles Johnson

    In Mastodon’s 3-dot menu, click “Embed.” If it comes up with a preview of the embedded post, it will work. If it shows an error or nothing, it won’t.

    Embed gives me the angry lizard..copy link gives me this…

    Mastodon

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    ericblair  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:30:22pm

    re: #43 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

    The “party without agency” still has a lot of agency.

    If The Speaker won’t bring a passable CR to a vote because of reasons associated with the party extremists nothing prevents one of the non-extremists from pulling the trigger on a vote to remove McCarthy. McCarthy is part of the problem for the GOP since he is clearly now putting his grasp on the gavel ahead of the party itself. No one is going to buy the “Biden is to blame” BS.

    All of these assholes are waiting for someone else to save them. The crazies have always had power without responsibility and never been punished: they can’t even understand the concept of responsibility and don’t understand why someone isn’t magically fixing this for them like every other time in their coddled little lives.

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    The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:31:36pm

    re: #31 Backwoods Sleuth

    jeebus

    [Embedded content]

    Makes perfect sense if you accept that most of “wellness” and the conspiracies to connect to it are manifestations of hyperindividualism, and all word choices are bent by a base assumption that the world exists to confirm and buoy the self exclusively.

    “Peace” is therefore exclusively inner peace achieved through personal consumption…of ideas, of products, of places and people…because interconnection doesn’t exist and the suffering of others is theirs in the way a debt or a genetic condition is theirs.

    Naomi Wolf, like a lot of Paisley QAnon types, are essentially mystical neoliberals—there is no society and thus no collective path with which to heal or make whole the self, and suffering must be dealt with through personal initiative, entrepeneurially finding the killer app that makes the malaise go away. Every mystical tradition and cultural practice they consume they convert into the same ab-contextual slurry of personal enrichment…and as as direct result they experience very limited benefit. As a consequence they delve further into self-involvement and becoming fixated on notions of purity and orthorexic personal regimes which make them even more disconnected.

    Eventually they achieve a level of solipsism where the only thing that remains is conspiracy, the notion that their pursuit of self cannot fail on its own terms but must be derailed by Bad People…not systems, and especially not the perverse incentives inherent to “health” and “wellness” as commercial products internally driven by profit.

    Of course she’s just uninterested in the actuality of Belfast in the 70s, or even today: the place only exists to the extent it services her needs moment to moment.

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    Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:31:41pm

    re: #47 darthstar

    Embed gives me the angry lizard..copy link gives me this…

    [Embedded content]

    No, I didn’t mean you should use the Mastodon embed code. But clicking their Embed option will show a preview, and you can use that to know if it can be embedded here by posting the link.

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    Markm1960  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:34:17pm

    re: #45 Dave In Austin

    [Embedded content]

    New business Trump Dump. The Trump brand name on the door is worth millions, if not billions. I can see this out performing Trump University.

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    Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:35:30pm

    re: #33 Vicious Babushka

    [Embedded content]

    I keep forgetting which Mastodon instances allow embeds and which don’t.

    Just another stumbling block to Mastodon being what it could be.

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    Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:36:16pm

    re: #51 Markm1960

    New business Trump Dump. The Trump brand name on the door is worth millions, if not billions. I can see this out performing Trump University.

    The ad pitch - “Don’t just take a dump. Take a Trump.”

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    Nerdy Fish  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:36:43pm

    re: #51 Markm1960

    New business Trump Dump. The Trump brand name on the door is worth millions, if not billions. I can see this out performing Trump University.

    You saying this made me remember that the judge stated Trump assigned certain of his golf clubs a 15-30% increase in value based on the “goodwill” associated with the “Trump brand.” I’m no expert here, but I’m pretty sure that right now, that “goodwill” is so far in the, well, outhouse that he’d probably have been more accurate assessing a 15-30% DECREASE in value.

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    wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:38:21pm

    re: #31 Backwoods Sleuth

    jeebus

    [Embedded content]

    There’s a lot of Naomi Wolfe at Goodwill. I left it there.

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    Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:39:19pm

    re: #43 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

    The “party without agency” still has a lot of agency.

    If The Speaker won’t bring a passable CR to a vote because of reasons associated with the party extremists nothing prevents one of the non-extremists from pulling the trigger on a vote to remove McCarthy. McCarthy is part of the problem for the GOP since he is clearly now putting his grasp on the gavel ahead of the party itself. No one is going to buy the “Biden is to blame” BS.

    The Beltway remain infatuated with the fantasy they dreamed up of how Ron and Tip were really buddy-buddy behind closed doors and could hash out any political disagreements over some bourbon and cigars, that everything that went on in front of the cameras was purely for their party’s consumption. And it crops up every time there’s a divided government in the post-Newt era, the idea that if the Dem in the WH would just invite over the Repub leader(s) to the WH for drinks then they could have this whole mess worked out in an evening and achieve that long sought-after “bipartisan compromise.” And the follow-on argument is if the Dem won’t do that, then he’s at fault because he’s unwilling to “negotiate.”

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    Jay C  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:42:07pm

    re: #54 Nerdy Fish

    You saying this made me remember that the judge stated Trump assigned certain of his golf clubs a 15-30% increase in value based on the “goodwill” associated with the “Trump brand.” I’m no expert here, but I’m pretty sure that right now, that “goodwill” is so far in the, well, outhouse that he’d probably have been more accurate assessing a 15-30% DECREASE in value.

    Yeah, well I’m sure the “Trump brand” might spur sales of -something - to certain segments of the populace, but even the sum-total of all the red hats and gaudy flags aren’t going to even approach the values he’s assigned invented for his RE investments….

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    PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:42:17pm

    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    aatharuv  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:43:55pm

    re: #55 wrenchwench

    There’s a lot of Naomi Wolfe at Goodwill. I left it there.

    On a tangential note, I just learned the other day that I had been conflating Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein, from an interview with the latter on my local NPR affiliate, about her new book, “Doppelganger”.

    vox.com

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    wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:44:48pm

    I was the bike mechanic for a guy in New Mexico who did a lot of touring. (I had several customers like that, but this one…)

    He moved to Portland and wrote some books about his touring. I suspect a bit of fiction when I read about him fixing his flat tires. I used to do that for him. Last weekend, at 2 garage sales and one thrift store, I saw his first book.

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    Teukka  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:45:13pm

    re: #31 Backwoods Sleuth

    jeebus

    [Embedded content]

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    sagehen  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:46:11pm

    re: #54 Nerdy Fish

    You saying this made me remember that the judge stated Trump assigned certain of his golf clubs a 15-30% increase in value based on the “goodwill” associated with the “Trump brand.” I’m no expert here, but I’m pretty sure that right now, that “goodwill” is so far in the, well, outhouse that he’d probably have been more accurate assessing a 15-30% DECREASE in value.

    There’s a row of co-ops near me, on Riverside Drive, that used to be Trump-branded. The Trump organization had retained about 30% of the units in each building as rentals, that they’d have voting rights for at the co-op board. In 2017, the other owners in each building banded together in an overwhelming majority to vote to fire the Trump building management, change the names of the buildings and remove the big silver letters off the front.

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    Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:46:23pm

    re: #59 aatharuv

    On a tangential note, I just learned the other day that I had been conflating Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein, from an interview with the latter on my local NPR affiliate, about her new book, “Doppelganger”.

    vox.com

    I still have to double check whether it’s the sane one or the other weirdo.

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    jaunte  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:46:47pm

    re: #61 Teukka
    That would be all the hotels.

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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:47:20pm

    what’s more important than funding the government?
    this, apparently:

    /fixed

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    lawhawk  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:47:22pm

    re: #61 Teukka

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    The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:47:57pm

    re: #59 aatharuv

    On a tangential note, I just learned the other day that I had been conflating Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein, from an interview with the latter on my local NPR affiliate, about her new book, “Doppelganger”.

    vox.com

    Klein’s doing the rounds right now. She’s got a lot of very interesting things to say.

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    Markm1960  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:50:53pm

    re: #65 Backwoods Sleuth

    what’s more important than funding the government?
    this, apparently:

    tps://twitter.com

    I live in her district 🤮 and farmers here recognize that the traditional seasons, and thus the growing seasons, are all f’d up. A couple of years ago several friends didn’t finish harvesting till mid-December. That’s not normal.

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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:51:29pm

    re: #65 Backwoods Sleuth

    what’s more important than funding the government?
    this, apparently:

    [Embedded content]

    /fixed

    reload #65…fixed the link

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    Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:51:38pm

    Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

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    Jay C  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:52:02pm

    re: #56 Targetpractice

    The Beltway remain infatuated with the fantasy they dreamed up of how Ron and Tip were really buddy-buddy behind closed doors and could hash out any political disagreements over some bourbon and cigars, that everything that went on in front of the cameras was purely for their party’s consumption. And it crops up every time there’s a divided government in the post-Newt era, the idea that if the Dem in the WH would just invite over the Repub leader(s) to the WH for drinks then they could have this whole mess worked out in an evening and achieve that long sought-after “bipartisan compromise.” And the follow-on argument is if the Dem won’t do that, then he’s at fault because he’s unwilling to “negotiate.”

    And also, in the post-Newt era, “ bipartisan compromise” has come to mean “Democrats unilaterally agree to anything and everything Republicans demand”, and that any other desired outcome is seen as “partisan intransigence”, usually blamed on “woke radicals”, or whatever other boogeyman-of-the-week the GOP feels like flogging…

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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:52:52pm

    re: #68 Markm1960

    I live in her district 🤮 and farmers here recognize that the traditional seasons, and thus the growing seasons, are all f’d up. A couple of years ago several friends didn’t finish harvesting till mid-December. That’s not normal.

    I was a farmer and agriculture reporter for 19 years in Illinois.
    She is full of shit, and not the fertile kind.

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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:56:56pm
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    sagehen  Sep 27, 2023 • 12:57:18pm

    Hunters are also well aware of the reality of climate change; ducks and geese pass by at the wrong time, snowshoe hares aren’t where they used to be, deer have gotten skinnier…

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    BeenHereAwhile  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:05:17pm

    re: #54 Nerdy Fish

    You saying this made me remember that the judge stated Trump assigned certain of his golf clubs a 15-30% increase in value based on the “goodwill” associated with the “Trump brand.” I’m no expert here, but I’m pretty sure that right now, that “goodwill” is so far in the, well, outhouse that he’d probably have been more accurate assessing a 15-30% DECREASE in value.

    The value of Trump’s “goodwill” is gonna disappear like “goodwill” did in the savings and loan crisis of the 1980s.

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    Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:08:26pm

    It seems daily I run across some young leftie on Bluesky saying things like “if you believe in double-genocide you’re a holocaust denier and a nazi sympathizer.” I learned that “double-genocide” is the non-controversial fact that people in Ukraine suffered unspeakable horror from both the Nazis and the Soviets.

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    Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:09:14pm
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    Nerdy Fish  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:10:14pm

    re: #76 Barefoot Grin

    It seems daily I run across some young leftie on Bluesky saying things like “if you believe in double-genocide you’re a holocaust denier and a nazi sympathizer.” I learned that “double-genocide” is the non-controversial fact that people in Ukraine suffered unspeakable horror from both the Nazis and the Soviets.

    I’d never heard of the term, but after you explained it, it seems obvious on its face. Both the Nazis and the Soviets were among the dregs of humanity; Stalin probably had even more blood on his hands than Hitler did, Hitler was just a little bit less circumspect about it.

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    Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:10:30pm

    And then there are some servers that do support embedding but don’t include the code that sets the height of the embedded post.

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    wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:13:06pm

    re: #79 Charles Johnson

    And then there are some servers that do support embedding but don’t include the code that sets the height of the embedded post.

    But they work in the Master Spy. Extra mastery goin on in there?

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    PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:13:53pm

    re: #80 wrenchwench

    Thanks.

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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:15:59pm
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    Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:17:21pm

    re: #33 Vicious Babushka

    Islam Channel fined £40,000 over ‘antisemitic’ conspiracy theory documentary

    I keep forgetting which Mastodon instances allow embeds and which don’t.

    Somebody read a Michael Chabon novel and riffed on it

    The Yiddish Policemen’s Union

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    Nerdy Fish  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:17:55pm

    re: #82 Backwoods Sleuth

    [Embedded content]

    This is the downside of legal rulings. Judge Engoron was brilliant and issued an exhaustive (and scathing) takedown of all of Team Trump’s attempted defenses, but very few people will actually read it because they think it’s beyond them. And while there is legalese in there that us non-lawyers probably won’t get, judges have a way of putting the cookies on the lower shelf for us laypeople to get at.

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    Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:19:14pm

    re: #46 Backwoods Sleuth

    Biden: “You know, I agree with Mitch here. Why the House Republicans would want to defund Border Patrol is beyond me.”

    Rope ‘em and brand ‘em, Brandon!

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    Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:20:33pm

    re: #61 Teukka

    Do their husband’s balls swell up?

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    Vicious Babushka  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:26:19pm

    Another tankie being oh so gracious to vote Democratic. Do you want a trophy or should I kiss your shoes, Ms. Gollum?

    Mastodon

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    DodgerFan1988  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:26:37pm
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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:27:01pm
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    BeenHereAwhile  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:27:02pm

    re: #78 Nerdy Fish

    I’d never heard of the term, but after you explained it, it seems obvious on its face. Both the Nazis and the Soviets were among the dregs of humanity; Stalin probably had even more blood on his hands than Hitler did, Hitler was just a little bit less circumspect about it.

    To recap:

    The Holodomor was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from ~1931 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians. It was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1930-1933 which affected the major grain-producing areas of the Soviet Union.

    The Holocaust in Ukraine was the systematic mass murder of 850,000 - 1,600,00 Jews between 1941 and 1945 during German military occupation.

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    Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:28:56pm

    re: #76 Barefoot Grin

    It seems daily I run across some young leftie on Bluesky saying things like “if you believe in double-genocide you’re a holocaust denier and a nazi sympathizer.” I learned that “double-genocide” is the non-controversial fact that people in Ukraine suffered unspeakable horror from both the Nazis and the Soviets.

    Which is what I meant about the notion of foreigners joining the Waffen-SS is a highly nuanced issue. Those people chose one Evil over another. Because they had little else to choose from.

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    wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:31:30pm
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    Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:31:39pm

    re: #88 DodgerFan1988

    Is it me or is Trump completely incoherent in this clip?

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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:32:18pm

    re: #93 Charles Johnson

    Is it me or is Trump completely incoherent in this clip?

    he’s been like that a LOT lately

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    Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:33:10pm

    “alternate cohernecy”

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    Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:35:45pm

    re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

    Which is what I meant about the notion of foreigners joining the Waffen-SS is a highly nuanced issue. Those people chose one Evil over another. Because they had little else to choose from.

    There will be no explaining any of this. If I do I’m a communist-hating shitlib or lib-centrist. I just observe and move on. VB found one who will deign to vote D, but most I run across are just going to stand on the sidelines and laugh. Oh well. I don’t think they represent meaningful numbers, and I’ve heard that they were some of the first to sign up for the platform, so there’s also kind of a defensive posture against perceived outsiders.

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    EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:36:29pm

    re: #93 Charles Johnson

    Is it me or is Trump completely incoherent in this clip?

    He’s apparently so incoherent he stumbled his way into saying something true (when stripped of context): “I don’t know what’s going on.”

    But I’m sure as hell not going to listen to the actual clip.

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    BeenHereAwhile  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:37:27pm

    re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

    Which is what I meant about the notion of foreigners joining the Waffen-SS is a highly nuanced issue. Those people chose one Evil over another. Because they had little else to choose from.

    There’s blood on the hands of the Ukrainians who, after the holodomor, welcomed the Nazi invasion as means to free their country from Russian occupation.

    “Everything is illuminated” is a well done movie on the subject:

    imdb.com

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    Thanos  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:37:55pm
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    EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:39:37pm

    re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

    Which is what I meant about the notion of foreigners joining the Waffen-SS is a highly nuanced issue. Those people chose one Evil over another. Because they had little else to choose from.

    One of the major Nazi strategic blunders was to invade on the eastern front with maximum brutality.

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    Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:44:16pm

    Will Fani move to indict Gym Neighbors for Obstruction Of Justice?

    Jordan told Willis that she’s only reinforcing “the Committee’s concern that your prosecutorial conduct is geared more toward advancing a political cause and your own notoriety than toward promoting the fair and just administration of the law.”

    “Congress in general, and this Committee in particular, have a strong legislative interest in ensuring that popularly elected local prosecutors do not misuse their law-enforcement authority to target federal officials for political reasons,” Jordan claimed. “We can only conclude from your hostile response to the Committee’s oversight that you are actively and aggressively engaged in such a scheme.”

    rawstory.com

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    Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:48:29pm

    So-called fake elector wants case thrown out after Michigan attorney general calls him ‘brainwashed’

    One of the so-called fake electors wants criminal charges thrown out over Michigan Attorney General Dane Nessel’s comments on the case.

    Nessel told a left-leaning group’s Sept. 18 virtual event that she believed the 16 Republicans had been “brainwashed” and “genuinely” believed Donald Trump had won Michigan’s presidential election, and an attorney for one of the fake electors filed a motion to dismiss the charges, reported the Associated Press.

    “They legit believe that,” Nessel told the group.

    Kevin Kijewski, an attorney for the defendant Clifford Frost, filed the motion to dismiss Tuesday, arguing that Nessel’s comments were an “explicit and clear admission” that the phony electors hadn’t intended to defraud anyone, and an attorney for co-defendant Mari-Ann Henry filed a similar motion Tuesday asking the court to “nullify the government’s entire case.”

    A third defendant’s attorney was evaluating whether to file a motion to dismiss, and the Republican assistant attorney general who Nessel defeated in 2018 said her remarks could play a key role in the case.

    “I don’t think there’s any argument that the action was there,” said Tom Leonard, a former Michigan assistant attorney general and the GOP nominee against Nessel. “The question is: What did these defendants intend to do when they showed up and signed those documents? Nessel, the state’s chief law enforcement officer who put that pen to paper charging these defendants, has now openly said that the intent was not there.”

    rawstory.com

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    wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:48:42pm
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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:48:53pm

    he is so much for the working man…

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    Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:49:52pm

    re: #100 EPR-radar

    One of the major Nazi strategic blunders was to invade on the eastern front with maximum brutality.

    German Dilomat Hans Herwarth writes that Hitler could have recruited up to ten divisions’ worth of soldiers from Ukraine, Belarus and other parts of the Western USSR, but that would have meant they would have expected some rewards upon victory, and all that land was already reserved as Lebensraum for Germans to settle

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    Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:50:47pm

    When the GOPers with any sort of survival instinct start to bail out, there’s going to be a pile of them crushed at the door.

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    Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:51:20pm

    “Damn you other grifters for messing with my grift!”

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    Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:51:20pm

    re: #104 Backwoods Sleuth

    Trump on the auto industry: “Let it go bankrupt”

    Which we could have done in the late 70’s but nobody was about to face the political and social consequences of letting the Invisible Hand of the unregulated Free Market work its wonders.

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    wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:51:59pm

    re: #106 Decatur Deb

    When the GOPers with any sort of survival instinct start to bail out, there’s going to be a pile of them crushed at the door.

    I hope nobody starts shooting.

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    KGxvi  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:53:00pm

    re: #87 Vicious Babushka

    Another tankie being oh so gracious to vote Democratic. Do you want a trophy or should I kiss your shoes, Ms. Gollum?

    [Embedded content]

    As someone who has voted Libertarian on more than one occasion, I can sympathize with those who are much further left than the Democratic mainstream. As I’ve said before, our system isn’t really built well to represent a nation of 340 million people spread across a continent.

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    wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:56:31pm
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    Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:57:01pm

    re: #110 KGxvi

    As someone who has voted Libertarian on more than one occasion, I can sympathize with those who are much further left than the Democratic mainstream. As I’ve said before, our system isn’t really built well to represent a nation of 340 million people spread across a continent.

    Yeah, the lack of viable third parties in American politics has always irked me.

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    Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:58:36pm

    re: #111 wrenchwench

    At time-and-a-half and double time on Sundays, that’s going to be some sweet overtime.

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    Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 1:58:45pm

    Just a reminder—my Great Grandpa Bacon passing out the Steel Labor Union Newspaper by the entrance of the J&L Steel Plant in Aliquippa PA

    Grandpa Bacon with fellow CIO organizers in front of their Aliquippa PA HQ and he’s the one in the dark hat.

    Both of them would be proud that Joe Biden walked on the picket line with striking workers!

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    A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:00:01pm

    re: #61 Teukka

    [Embedded content]

    She forgot to mention that they also get them when not seated next to vaccinated women or in hotels where they slept.

    (Just how do you know the person sitting next to you is vaccinated?)

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    KGxvi  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:00:16pm

    re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

    Yeah, the lack of viable third parties in American politics has always irked me.

    we really should have something like 6-8 parties, I think. But the electoral college and the artificial limit on the House (and state legislatures for that matter), make it nearly impossible.

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    Nerdy Fish  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:01:20pm

    re: #115 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

    She forgot to mention that they also get them when not seated next to vaccinated women or in hotels where they slept.

    (Just how do you know the person sitting next to you is vaccinated?)

    Well, in America, at least, it’s pretty easy. If they’re reading Mein Kampf, they’re not vaccinated.

    /

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    mmmirele  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:01:25pm

    re: #1 dat_said

    Merriam-Webster does new words.

    I always thought TFW meant “too fucking weird” though. I’ll be spending the rest of the day trying to zhuzh up.

    I’m actually surprised that “rotoscope” is a new word. I thought it had been around for years.

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    Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:01:28pm

    re: #115 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

    She forgot to mention that they also get them when not seated next to vaccinated women or in hotels where they slept.

    (Just how do you know the person sitting next to you is vaccinated?)

    Don’t sift the crazy.

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    darthstar  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:02:47pm

    So…no gag order yet?

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    Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:04:24pm

    hi

    We’re back from Cheyenne. The eye doc’s drops deepened and widened the blue ring around my iris, so my eyes are now more blue than brown.

    Other than that, my eyes are fine.

    The base exchange was dead today (too close to payday), so in and out to buy a new microwave.

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    PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:06:30pm

    re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

    I am happy to hear you got good news.

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    Joe Bacon ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:07:28pm

    re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

    Yeah, the lack of viable third parties in American politics has always irked me.

    Once upon a time (around 100 years ago) there was a third party called the Socialist Party which actually elected mayors, city councilors, county commissioners, state legislators and congressmen. Their Presidential Candidates came close to getting a million votes nationwide in several elections.

    Then A. Mitchell Palmer and his protege J Edgar Hoover cracked down on them…

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    Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:11:36pm

    re: #122 PhillyPretzel ✅

    I am happy to hear you got good news.

    I got more good news. The eye doc also explained why my eyes are turning blue.

    This is an elder (ugh) condition called arcus senilis. In some older (ugh) people, fat deposits build up around the edge of the cornea. They appear blue. The eye drops in question make them stand out.

    The condition itself does not require treatment, it just looks weird.

    On the way home, we stopped at the optician in the county seat, where they extracted about $500 from my wife for a new pair of glasses.

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    Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:13:57pm

    PROGRAMMING NOTE: The image at the top of the article is a jpeg, not a video.

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    Thanos  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:14:25pm

    What happened to the video? I had saved this because I had yard work, now it doesn’t appear to be there…

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    PhillyPretzel ✅  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:15:56pm

    re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

    Read my #58 and you will understand what is going on with me.

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    wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:16:33pm

    re: #9 The Ghost of a Flea

    Is there supposed to be a link attached to the image in the header?

    When I click on it doesn’t connect to anywhere.

    As heard earlier, by me anyway…

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    Markm1960  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:16:35pm

    re: #74 sagehen

    Hunters are also well aware of the reality of climate change; ducks and geese pass by at the wrong time, snowshoe hares aren’t where they used to be, deer have gotten skinnier…

    We now have pelicans on the nearby lake. They stay year round because the lake does not freeze over anymore.

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    Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:19:58pm

    re: #7 Backwoods Sleuth

    Your medical system on capitalism.

    Profits to the bean-counters were far more important than piddlin’ compliance with FDA regulations for reporting.

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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:20:02pm
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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:24:14pm
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    Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:26:34pm

    re: #13 Backwoods Sleuth

    What’s the “budget compromise”? Do what Republicans say or the government (and millions of Americans) get it.

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    jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:34:24pm

    re: #34 sagehen

    not at all.

    PBS and BBC nature programs do a lot of Patagonia episodes. It’s stunningly beautiful, varied topography, and awesome wildlife.

    [Embedded content]

    And they make a superb line of outdoor wear.

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    sizzzzlerz  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:36:01pm

    re: #103 wrenchwench

    [Embedded content]

    How did that wagon not turn into dust while being buried for 4000 years?

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    Jay C  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:38:45pm

    re: #135 sizzzzlerz

    How did that wagon not turn into dust while being buried for 4000 years?

    (Very) extended warranty.

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    Florida Panhandler  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:39:04pm

    re: #102 Joe Bacon ✅

    So-called fake elector wants case thrown out after Michigan attorney general calls him ‘brainwashed’

    One of the so-called fake electors wants criminal charges thrown out over Michigan Attorney General Dane Nessel’s comments on the case.

    Nessel told a left-leaning group’s Sept. 18 virtual event that she believed the 16 Republicans had been “brainwashed” and “genuinely” believed Donald Trump had won Michigan’s presidential election, and an attorney for one of the fake electors filed a motion to dismiss the charges, reported the Associated Press.

    “They legit believe that,” Nessel told the group.

    Kevin Kijewski, an attorney for the defendant Clifford Frost, filed the motion to dismiss Tuesday, arguing that Nessel’s comments were an “explicit and clear admission” that the phony electors hadn’t intended to defraud anyone, and an attorney for co-defendant Mari-Ann Henry filed a similar motion Tuesday asking the court to “nullify the government’s entire case.”

    A third defendant’s attorney was evaluating whether to file a motion to dismiss, and the Republican assistant attorney general who Nessel defeated in 2018 said her remarks could play a key role in the case.

    “I don’t think there’s any argument that the action was there,” said Tom Leonard, a former Michigan assistant attorney general and the GOP nominee against Nessel. “The question is: What did these defendants intend to do when they showed up and signed those documents? Nessel, the state’s chief law enforcement officer who put that pen to paper charging these defendants, has now openly said that the intent was not there.”

    rawstory.com

    I legitimately believe that the Hope Diamond is mine to take. It is my legitimate property that has been stolen from me somehow. Now, off to claim my rightful property…

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    Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:40:46pm

    re: #132 Backwoods Sleuth

    Remember that when investors pool their resources to strengthen their bargaining position, that is a corporation and are praised as the very heart and soul of modern Capitalism.

    When employees pool their resources to improve their bargaining position and form a union, they are seen as socialist rabble-rousers who are seen as the very antithesis of Capitalism and destroyers of personal initiative.

    “Individual Freedom” in our modern definition means the right of individuals to bargain one-on-one with multi-billion-dollar corporations for terms of employment, insurance coverage or financial services.

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    darthstar  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:42:33pm

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    Teddy's Person  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:45:29pm

    re: #114 Joe Bacon ✅

    Grandpa Bacon gets all the updings!

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    Dangerman  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:48:33pm

    re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

    Remember that when investors pool their resources to strengthen their bargaining position, that is a corporation and are praised as the very heart and soul of modern Capitalism.

    When employees pool their resources to improve their bargaining position and form a union, they are seen as socialist rabble-rousers who are seen as the very antithesis of Capitalism and destroyers of personal initiative.

    “Individual Freedom” in our modern definition means the right of individuals to bargain one-on-one with multi-billion-dollar corporations for terms of employment, insurance coverage or financial services.

    +1

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    darthstar  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:49:21pm
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    BeenHereAwhile  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:49:30pm

    re: #100 EPR-radar

    One of the major Nazi strategic blunders was to invade on the eastern front with maximum brutality.

    The pro-soviet Ukrainians exploited German brutality into an insurgency complete with assassinations of German officers that disrupted cooperation between the anti-soviet Ukrainians and German occupation. It was ugly, but it’s what the Russians are very good at.

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    goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:50:50pm

    re: #2 ericblair

    [Embedded content]

    Interesting result, because this had been up in the air (heh) for a while. I think this result was expected, and not some anti-gravity reaction, otherwise you could have gotten some really bizarre behavior.

    The idea that anti-matter would react oppositely to gravity was frankly absurd. The only way this would have made any sense at all is if particles that are their own antiparticle, like photons, didn’t react to gravity at all as the two effects canceled out. Light wouldn’t bend around stars and black holes if this were true.

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    Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:51:02pm

    And let’s not forget about the Katyn massacree…

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    Backwoods Sleuth  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:53:45pm
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    EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:56:34pm

    re: #144 goddamnedfrank

    The idea that anti-matter would react oppositely to gravity was frankly absurd. The only way this would have made any sense at all is if particles that are their own antiparticle, like photons, didn’t react to gravity at all as the two effects canceled out. Light wouldn’t bend around stars and black holes if this were true.

    The explicit verification that antimatter falls down has its value, even if the result is completely as expected.

    After all, quantum mechanics itself is absurd, and it was forced on physicists by the absurd results that came up from various atomic physics experiments.

    Edited to add: the centennial of quantum mechanics is roughly 2025

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    Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:57:18pm

    Antimatter should create antigravity.

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    EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:57:54pm

    re: #146 Backwoods Sleuth

    Here’s a question for the stupidest of the Trump spawn — if the Florida pesthole is worth well more than $1 billion, why isn’t it being taxed with that value?

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    darthstar  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:58:32pm

    Judge Chutkan denies Trump’s request for her to recuse herself.

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    darthstar  Sep 27, 2023 • 2:59:06pm

    re: #149 EPR-radar

    Here’s a question for the stupidest of the Trump spawn — if the Florida pesthole is worth well more than $1 billion, why isn’t it being taxed with that value?

    Taxable value < 10 million.

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    EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2023 • 3:03:00pm

    re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

    Antimatter should create antigravity.

    Not really, according to current views. Anything that has mass (and/or energy) distorts spacetime in the way we call gravity. Antimatter has mass and/or energy just like matter does, so its role in creating gravity should be the same. That’s why the opposite result from this experiment would have been a BFD for physics.

    Edited to add: that last part about the experiment is sloppy — the experiment showed antimatter falls as expected in a gravitational field generated by normal matter. It is theory that tells us there is no reason to believe there’s a difference between gravity generated by normal matter and gravity generated by antimatter.

    A direct experimental test of gravity created by antimatter is impossible, and would be ludicrously dangerous if it were possible.

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    EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2023 • 3:03:55pm

    re: #150 darthstar

    Judge Chutkan denies Trump’s request for her to recuse herself.

    It’s a pity that the judge can’t include in her ruling an earnest desire to see Trump and his counsel disappear up their own rectums.

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    TedStriker  Sep 27, 2023 • 3:04:41pm

    re: #135 sizzzzlerz

    How did that wagon not turn into dust while being buried for 4000 years?

    re: #136 Jay C

    (Very) extended warranty.

    Ultimate barn find.

    155
    Nojay UK  Sep 27, 2023 • 3:07:01pm

    re: #152 EPR-radar

    The discovery/confirmation that gravity propagates at the speed of light was a big win for the experimenters a while back (the first primitive grav wave observatories correlating signals with, IIRC, regular electromagnetic observations of colliding black holes). Until then it was generally believed that gravity did in fact propagate at the speed of light but proving it was another matter.

    156
    Florida Panhandler  Sep 27, 2023 • 3:07:40pm

    re: #152 EPR-radar

    Not really, according to current views. Anything that has mass (and/or energy) distorts spacetime in the way we call gravity. Antimatter has mass and/or energy just like matter does, so its role in creating gravity should be the same. That’s why the opposite result from this experiment would have been a BFD for physics.

    Antimatter is subject to Einstein Relativistic Physics like any other matter. There is theoretical “Exotic Matter” that could potentially “fall up” a gravity well and among other things be the required fuel for an Alcubierre FTL Drive, but sadly no tests have to been successful in detecting any of this “Exotic Matter”

    157
    goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2023 • 3:07:55pm

    re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

    Antimatter should create antigravity.

    Assumes gravitons exist and also aren’t their own antiparticle. Otherwise the closest we’re going to get is dark energy accelerating expansion of the universe.

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    EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2023 • 3:09:38pm

    re: #157 goddamnedfrank

    It is funny that terms like dark matter and dark energy exist (for good reason) without us having the foggiest idea of what they are.

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    BeenHereAwhile  Sep 27, 2023 • 3:13:45pm

    re: #149 EPR-radar

    Here’s a question for the stupidest of the Trump spawn — if the Florida pesthole is worth well more than $1 billion, why isn’t it being taxed with that value?

    Someone within the Trump organization is telling spawn to STFU about publicly bragging what the Palm Beach property is worth.

    Palm Beach County’s tax assessor would love an excuse to increase the property tax on that 14 acres between Lake Worth and the Atlantic Ocean.

    And there are plenty of old money residents who would like nothing better than to see the Trumps forced to leave Palm Beach. I suspect the Trump family is PNG at the Everglades Club.

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    Romantic Heretic  Sep 27, 2023 • 3:21:39pm

    re: #46 Backwoods Sleuth

    They want to defund the Border Patrol to make the border crisis worse.

    Then they can win the election by blaming Biden for it.

    4D chess!

    161
    FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 27, 2023 • 4:36:56pm

    re: #56 Targetpractice

    The Beltway remain infatuated with the fantasy they dreamed up of how Ron and Tip were really buddy-buddy behind closed doors and could hash out any political disagreements over some bourbon and cigars, that everything that went on in front of the cameras was purely for their party’s consumption. And it crops up every time there’s a divided government in the post-Newt era, the idea that if the Dem in the WH would just invite over the Repub leader(s) to the WH for drinks then they could have this whole mess worked out in an evening and achieve that long sought-after “bipartisan compromise.” And the follow-on argument is if the Dem won’t do that, then he’s at fault because he’s unwilling to “negotiate.”

    Which, of course, flies in the face of the fact that the GOP has broken every deal they have negotiated with the Democrats in the past thirty years.


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