An intifada in the US of A? H-m-m-m, perhaps we can begin by leveling UC Berkeley Lecturer Hatem Bazian's house. Just a thought.

Hatem Bazian--he's, what? An Irish-American Presbyterian? Just checking.

Begin deportation hearings-now.

The time to invoke Article III Section III of the Constitution of the United States of America is long overdue. Time to line up a few traitors against a wall.

It's time to build a wall around Berkley, complete with humiliating checkpoints.

D-Berg: What, and separate these people from their olive trees????

I would pray that they start something like that here. It would be totally enjoyable to watch (and participate) in the result. That insect Hatem Bazian should be deported.

I'm sure there are more than just a few cops out there who would cherish the thought of taking said radicals out right where they stand. All they need is the reason to do so....while the rest of the populace looked the other way....

Ladies and gentleman, this is the new "progressive" movement.

Fitting name, Hate'm. I guess Jihad was taken.

Dr. Hatem Bazian, a native Palestinian with a Ph.D. in Islamic Studies from U.C. Berkeley, and currently a lecturer in Near Eastern Studies and Ethnic Studies Departments at the same university.

[Link: www.hatembazian.com...]

Were he a conservative advocating this kind of dangerous rot, he'd be in jail now and in the chair by Wednesday.

Beat me to it [Engineer]. Hatem Bazian can be reached for comment at:

hats@igc.org or

510-642-7792; office number, public domain.

IIRC, this fits under the Sedition Act. I think its time to dust that off the books.

Since I'm not much of a writer, I was wondering if one of my lizard brethren could write a sample letter about Prof Baziam that I could copy and send to Gov. Arnold, the Board of Regents of the University of California, and the Chancellor of UC Berkeley.

It's bad enough that this kind of human scum gets to call for war in this country, and it's even worse knowing that my tax dollars go to pay his salary. As far as I'm concerned, when he asked for intifada he forfeited his right to teach at a State institution.

LLL battle cry, "Help, Help, I'm being repressed. Come and see the violence inherent in the system."

I'd like to see these asshats try something. They can cry 1st amendment all they want, I'll keep the 2nd in my back pocket.

"UC Berkeley Lecturer Hatem Bazian calls for an intifada in the United States"

Is another Civil War coming? It sure looks like it to me. This one will be much shorter, since the leftist assholes are unarmed, and idiots (nothing meant by that to the honourable men and women in the American South).

They have been "begging for it" for quite a while now. During a war, your men should put people like the Berkeley "professors" in custody for a few years.

High IQ does not equal common sense. Stalin had a high IQ.

Is incitement to violence falls under freedom of speech laws?

Model4, you are correct. This will never make the News Networks, including Fox. What a Mad, Mad world we live in...

These yammering halfwits are shooting themselves in the foot, abdomen, heart, head, etc. I say keep giving them ammo.

Hey Charles:

Speaking of "peace activists," check out Cox & Forkum's latest.

-dg

"How come we don’t have an intifada in this country?"

Guys, I think he just means peaceful, inner intifada.

Hatem Bazian's violent rhetoric is totally against what the overwhelming majority of peaceful Muslims believe.

I'm sure all the Muslim leaders in the country are going to denounce Bazian - okay, maybe not all Muslim leaders. But I'm sure AT LEAST ONE SINGLE MUSLIM LEADER is going to denounce Bazian.

Any time now.

How about a leader of a Muslim student group? I'm sure almost all of them disagree with this kind of thing. I'm sure JUST ONE OF THEM is ready to speak out.

Anybody feel free to help me out here by posting some links. Remember, all we need is ONE SINGLE PERSON to speak out ...

Dr. Hatem Bazian, a native Palestinian

Not a native American or Mexican? Hmmm, wouldn't he be considered an occupier in these circumstances?

Intifada - A modern term for Islamic conquest through genocide and terrorist blackmail.

Bring it to the US? But of course! Come children, let us celebrate diversity in the ultimate bastion of American self-hate, UC Berkeley. It's a perfect match.

Berkeleyites, expose your bellies for a special exercise in Islamic cultural awareness. A sword-welding practitioner of the Religion of Peace™ will be with you shortly.

Hate 'ems page

At present, the only option for those who endeavor to drench themselves in the vastness of traditional sources of Islamic thought and practice, is to travel abroad in search of one of the few remaining, least contaminated oases of knowledge that still exist.

Wonder where that might be.

"I want his humilated and degraded" ass out of my country.

I have a friend in Oz who really would love to see all the nazimuslims expelled from Israel, where they do not belong.

Why do we not move in this direction here? There are cells of potential terrorists everywhere.

I realize that this will never happen here or in Israel, or in any of the countries they are polluting, as they take prisoners in Iraq, the Phillipines, all over the world. They murder, mutilate and call for jihad everywhere. Now it is realistically impossible to rid ourselves of the plague of islam. However, the damned PC LLL/s should wake up. Do they ever read a newspaper, watch the news anywhere but the NY & LA Times? CNN, and the major networks? The BBC? The Independent and the Guardian, UK? Channel 4, also in the UK? The CBC, the Toronto Star?

The RoP is not our friend, and never will be. We must demand that the tight restrictions on their travel, the close scrutiny of their passports, etc., must not only continue, but be toughened ten-fold.

A late friend in London, whose late father was from Austria, and had never applied for UK citizenship, was, along with his mother, interred in a center on the Isle of Wight, I believe, when WWII broke out, as he was considered an enemy alien, as was his mother. My friend's Anglo/Jewish mother wrote to Queen Elizabeth (the late Queen Mother) personally, explaining that they were Orthodox Jews, and had been lax in not taking citizenship. It was straightened out, and on the part of my late friend's family, there was no anger or bitterness, only embarrasment at having been so lax.

How many nazimuslims are here either illegally, or abusing their visas and/or passports? How many of you live in a community where they are not among you?

CAIR and the ACLU be damned. Our very lives depend on it.

Charles

I knew you were going to highlight that particular speech. I listened to it when zombie posted all his work in the other thread, and I thought, "The balls on this POS." But then I realized, I WANT them to start some shit. We need another civil war, this time to root out the Leftist traitors, jihadis, and neo-Nazis who have all made common cause with each other---due to their shared Jew-hatred---which has inevitably led them to anti-Americanism, because American values are in essence Jewish values.

I WANT all the traitors to out themselves---go ahead and start your fucking intifada (uprising). It will serve better than 9-11 to rouse the populace from their navel-gazing torpor when jihadis start exploding in Jewel-Osco and Albertson's, and their Leftist and neo-Nazi sympathizers cheer them on.

After Easter celebrations today, I'm listenening to a bit of Marley. "Stir It Up" does not have to apply to communism. Peace is in the air. Canada will come through. Do not lose your reslove, our Amerivan cousins.

I am getting to the point where I want these leftist pieces of sh*t to stop talking, and get to more action. This BS goes far beyond dissent. Bring on the intifada in America, I think it will be swell to thin your ranks you fuc*wits.

I am not a lawyer but will blow smoke out my ass on the internet.

Just let him rant and take notes. What he said is probably not specific enough for any sort of conviction. I hope the FBI keeps files on this guy like they would have in the 1950's.

Those were the days.
"Mister, we could use a man like J. Edgar Hoover again."

who is Hatem Bazian?

*spit*

[Link: amercult.berkeley.edu...]

[Link: www.mcgilldaily.com...]

*spit*

Assuming that a minor miracle occurred tomorrow morning, and the leaders of the U.S., Canada, Australia, the U.K., etc., collectively woke up and realized that the presence of people like Dr. Hatem was incompatible with a free, open, pluralistic society -- then what?

How would you go about removing these people, not to mention the naturalized citizens who subscribe to these beliefs, from your country? Where would you send them? And who would decide who was to be deported and who stayed?

Moreover, how would you do it in a cilivized way, that did not undermine democracy, civil rights, etc?

If there is another 9-11 style attack, or worse, these questions will take on new importance. Now's the time to start thinking about answers.

Canuck,

Stir it up
Li'l darlin' stir it up

Lovin' it.

They're so cute when they get cranky.

Feels squishy doesn't it?

The blood of soldiers and civilians killed in Iraq on your war-cheerleading hands.

Now you're advocating "taking out" the "insects" that have a different opinion?

The LGF poll (Late German Fascists)was a great idea. Thanks for proving them right.

Bring.It.On.

You guys do know you are being egged on into a frenzie.

Tasty, I think that you have a good point there.

Hatem Bazian's violent rhetoric is totally against what the overwhelming majority of peaceful Muslims believe.

No sale. And one Muslim leader wil not convince me. It will take massive rallies by literally hundreds of thousands of Muslims here in the US and in Eurostan as well as repeated statements by a preponderance of local Muslim leaders before I am convinced Muslims by their very nature do not mean to harm to myself and my family.

Muslims worldwide have been perpetuating war since 1979. It is too late for words and for press releases.

Peaceful Muslim is an oxymoron.

I bet CAIR would like to buy your product though.

ROPMA

Hey, Shystee

Since when is calling for an infitada in the US just a differing opinion?

Check this out at Belmont Club: Sadr's disinformation campaign.

The circumstances fueling the account by Lee Gordon of the London Telegraph has so many eerie similarities to the New York Times John Burns piece on the Golden Mosque that they fairly jump out. A team from a writer or newspaper respected by conservatives is captured on the road. The journalists are taken to a picturesque location where they are first greeted with hostility, then granted surprising liberty. A sense of shared danger bonds them with their captors. Scenes are provided to lend color. Due to a surprising coincidence, the captured journalists stumble on information every Western intelligence agency wants to know. The preparations to defend the Golden Mosque, the fate of the missing German counterterrorism agents. Then, as quickly as they were captured, they are released. Not for them is the long and slow incarceration of Terry Waite, but a hearty goodbye, encumbered only by the promise that they will tell the world the truth, on their word as Americans or Englishmen.

Then he compares the news stories paragraph by paragraph. This is a scoop.

OT

But the RoP condems attacking holy places, right?

#34

Our guys are out there, in growing numbers. Wish I could be, but I'm too old. Canada will be back on side soon. The Liberal government will be ejected.

#42 I expect a similar tale from the Japanese kids.

#36, Word-twister:

Wow. A real life illustration of Cox & Forkum's new cartoon. It's amazing, really.

"Insect" was linked to "deport," not "take out." But thanks for playing. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

-dg

#36

GAZE

I am waiting for your answer, Shystee.

#14, right on the mark. I posted the text on another thread and it bears repeating here:

16 May, 1918
The U.S. Sedition Act

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United States, Statutes at Large, Washington, D.C., 1918, Vol. XL, pp 553 ff.
A portion of the amendment to Section 3 of the Espionage Act of June 15, 1917.
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SECTION 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall willfully make or convey false reports, or false statements, . . . or incite insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct . . . the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, or . . . shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States . . . or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall willfully . . . urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production . . . or advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated and whoever shall by word or act support or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both....

********************************************
They're not anti-war, they are just on the other side.

#36

"Now you're advocating "taking out" the "insects" that have a different opinion?"

Well, actually, no. We are advocating self-defense. The protestors have every right to their opinions, of course. When it comes to fomenting "intifada" (which would necessarily involve the deaths of many civilians) however, a line has been crossed.

In the US, you are permitted - nay, encouraged - to have whatever ideas you like. If you and some like-minded people can get representatives elected, you can even make a difference in the way the US (or at least your community in the US) is run.

You are not permitted to foment violent revolution. If you hate the US that much, you should move to a more congenial society. There are many, I am sure.

badanov:

No sale. And one Muslim leader wil not convince me. It will take massive rallies by literally hundreds of thousands of Muslims here in the US

No, no, no, let's not get utopian.

I'm looking for ONE PROMINENT MUSLIM who will denounce Hatem Bazian's call for war against the United States. Failing that, how about ONE NOT-SO-PROMINENT MUSLIM?

Trolls, go ye forth and find one. JUST ONE.

Shyster, "insects" who mention that? Try reading the Law of the Land. Treason is clearly defined and your leftists pals are traitors. I would never insult an praying mantis by comparing it to the likes of you.

Shystee...your gonadal atrophy shouldn't keep you away from the keyboard.

When you crawl out of your hole please explain how

"it’s about time that we have an intifada in this country that change[s] fundamentally the political dynamics in here."

is a simple difference of opinion rather than an incitment to revolution.

Please use specific examples to illustrate your point.

The Islamists "picked this fight" (not Islam itself). Now they are going to get it. Troops are mounting everywhere, and the enemy cannot prevail. Give up the fight, hard-core Islamists, before it is too late.

Let's build libraries, and educate our children instead.

Atrios is now joining in on LGF bashing....

"Little Green Footballs or Late German Fascists? Take the quiz!

-Atrios 9:03 PM"

No, no, no, let's not get utopian.

Actually, I was thinking of getting medieval.

But now I understand.

A really sick and evil group of people. They want to see American blood spilled, these "peace activists." their faces are so very punchable.

#36 Shystee :

hey Shit-see. Did it never occur to you that "different opinion" that incites uprisings and wars on the US is illegal and treasonous? Of course you didn't, you braindead appeasing idiot. Just egg them on, and when THEY kill YOU, it'll be fine (for me, that is).

Can anyone perhaps show Hatem's little diatribe to some intelligence agency JUST IN CASE they didn't see it already? I mean, hopefully whoever sifts through this data already noticed this, but if not, alerting them would be a very good deed.

"They can cry 1st amendment all they want, I'll keep the 2nd in my back pocket. "

"Time to line up a few traitors against a wall."

"perhaps we can begin by leveling UC Berkeley Lecturer Hatem Bazian's house."

"I'm sure there are more than just a few cops out there who would cherish the thought of taking said radicals out right where they stand"

Just a small sample of quotes on this thread. This person has committed no crime yet you advocate he be silenced by assassination. Or is yours just boisterous trash talking? Ha ha ha. Violent repression of free speech is not fucking funny.

And about those blood stains on your hands....

How come we don’t have an intifada in this country? Because it seem[s] to me, that we are comfortable in where we are

So let's destroy this place where everyone is relaxed and comfortable so that we can be as miserable as the palestinians.

/sarcasm off

"Bring it on." First, they will have to find some children to hide behind.

More and more of these bottom-feeders are showing up in the US. I have no doubt, come December of this year, that they'll go into a full-bore frothing and seething fit. I won't be surprised if, after November 2nd, there's not at least two or three incidents of violence connected to either Islamists or LLLs.

By playing on the US fear that victory is impossible to achieve, that, as Sadr said, Iraq will become "another Vietnam," Hizbullah will seek to convince enough Americans that staying is pointless to force George W. Bush out of office and force a retreat of US forces from Iraq. This would be achieved to greatest effect if a sense of chaos and futility can be conveyed to the American people watching the violence on their television screens.

To combat this effort, it is vital for the administration not to lose control of the tone of the public debate either in Iraq or in the US. The decision to close Sadr's newspaper was of crucial importance for this reason. As Sadr's militia is publishing its announcements on Hizbullah's Al-Manar satellite network, arresting Al-Manar reporters and blocking the station from Iraqi television would also be a vital move.

Hizbullah's Iraqi campaign

First, they will have to find some children to hide behind.

Women will also do.

They are after all progressives.

Seditious libel and treason are capital crimes fool.

#59

"Violent repression of free speech is not fucking funny."

You are right - it isn't. You will notice that not one of the protestors got so much as a bloody nose.

The rhetoric you find here isn't very different from the rhetoric in the protests. Why do you object to one but not the other?

Remember the message of Love from Our Lord (and for Muslims, I understand that you worship differently, you just cannot kill people any longer).

We also--all Western societies--know defense. The right thing will will be done in WWIII, as it was in WWII.

I have a niece and her boyfriend attending Berkeley, and we go through de-programming quite often. When they visit, I have a Middle East map handy and lots of food. I talk my head off, send them home with books, and hope for the best.

Speaking of books, a good read: "Still Life With Bombers: Israel in the Age of Terrorism" by David Horovitz (editor of Jerusalem Report).

#33 Midas Mulligan

Valid point. I fear we will be revisiting Korematsu v. United States before all is said and done.

Shystee,

Point of fact: The second amendment gives me the right to defend myself thru bearing arms, it in no way implies assassination of disenters. Gun Control laws are usually a hallmark of leftist thinking however.

to continue

Any condemnations about Saddams WMDs? You say they don't exist, ask the Kurds about them.

Any condemnations about Iraqi mass graves? The left was silent enough for years about them.

Any condemnations about suicide bombings in Israel? Or do the Palis have the right to slaughter women and children at will without reprisal?

How's the blood on your hands, you malignant troll?

#59:

Yawn.

GAZE

-dg

#59 shystee

The man was calling for violent revolution. What part of that do you not understand?

Violent repression of free speech is not fucking funny.

those clowns suscribe to arab fascism and communism - not free speech's greatest advocates, last I heard.

In the words of a future nobel peace prize winner:

Lyrics by David Robbins & Tim Robbins

Complain

Some people must have.

Some people have not.

But they’ll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain.

Some people will work.

Some simply will not.

But they’ll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain.

Like this: It’s society’s fault I don’t have a job.

It’s society’s fault I am a slob.

I have potential no one can see.

Give me welfare. Let me be me!

Hey, Bud, you’re livin’ in the Land of the Free.

No one’s gonna hand you opportunity!

Some people must have.

Some never will.

But they’ll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain.

I don’t have a house. I don’t have a car.

I spend all my money gettin’ drunk in a bar.

I wanna be rich. I don’t have a brain.

Just give me a handout while I complain.

Or this: I wanna stay in bed and watch TV.

Go out weekends in a limousine

And dance all night takin’ lots of drugs

And wake up when I wanna.

Hey, Bud, you’re livin’ in the Land of the Free.

No one’s gonna hand you opportunity!

Some people will learn.

Some never do.

But they’ll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain.

Yeah, they’ll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain.

[Link: runningblogcapitalist.blognz.com...]

"Violent repression of free speech is not fucking funny." Tell that to Salmon Rushdie

But the stern punishment of treason is sanctioned in the Constitution. Read it, punk.

Intifada means resistance, doesn't it?
I don't see anything in the quote that specifically advocates anything violent.

If you seriously believe this person is advocating violent overthrow of the government then they are committing a crime. Call 911, the FBI, whoever and take a break from jacking off to your violent fantasies.

"Hello, emergency"

"Um, I'd like to report.. a traitor..."

"Sir?"

Intifada means resistance, doesn't it?

no, in this case intifada means jihad

#76:

Show me a nonviolent intifada. Go ahead. I'll be waiting.

-dg

Hopefully these boneheads are being tracked by the FBI.

This person has committed no crime yet you advocate he be silenced by assassination.

Actually, many here are making the point that in fact a crime has been committed.

Question: If liberal, al-Qaedacrat filth take it to the streets, and let's face it--they're too stupid not to, who has to supply their toe tags?

Intifada means resistance, doesn't it?

Actually, it means uprising.

The funniest part is that if the very first people the islamo-fascists would execute are godless trotsyist-marxists. talk about stupid bed fellows.

but of course, their shared hatred of freedom, the west, and all things not fascist means the far left will continue to be pimped by the islamo-fascists.

[Link: dictionary.reference.com...]

in·ti·fa·da also in·ti·fa·dah ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nt-fäd)
n.
An uprising among Palestinian Arabs of the Gaza Strip and West Bank, beginning in late 1987 and continuing sporadically into the early 1990s, in protest against continued Israeli occupation of these territories.

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There is no way this doesn't imply bloodshed.

Maybe we can all email Berkley's administration and demand that he be fired for his open treason.

#69 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier

Thanks.

This is what differentiates most of the people on this board from the Shystees of this world. We are looking for solutions, not just pouring gasoline on the flames of anarchy.

Unfortunately, solutions are difficult. Spouting stupidity like "Bush=Hitler," OTOH, is easy.

oh please oh please! let it happen! let the LLL start an intifada! That would be priceless. They would get wiped out in a day. LMAO!

#76 troll

(Is "shystee" some pun on "shyster," asshole?)

You're being disingenuous at best. The "intifadas" in Israel and in Iraq are both violent uprisings. Therefore, it is quite reasonable to presume Hatem was calling for violent resistance in the U.S.

If you defend Hatem's right to advocate this, then you must also defend any given LGFer's right to express violent disapproval. After all, it's only words, isn't it? Free speech!

Hypocrite.

This boy Hatem's letting his mouth write a bigger check than his body's prepared to cash methinks. Apparently they think you can make armour out of bullshit in Berkley.

It's kind of like our 'treason' system is on the fritz.

How much further can they go?

How come we don’t have an intifada in this country?

Take a deep breath, and then go look up the stats on gun ownership in this country. The answer should hit you pretty fast.

it’s about time that we have an intifada in this country that change[s] fundamentally the political dynamics in here.

It certainly would change the dynamics in this country, but probably not in the way you think it would. Remember when you all thought it would be a good thing if people started researching Islam? Didn't come to the conclusions you expected us too, did we?

you haven’t seen radicalism yet!

Oh son, please. For the sake of everything you love, I beg you - open a US history book. A real one, not that Berkeley crap. You need to understand exactly what you are trying to put in motion. You really do.

OK:

[Link: www.berkeley.edu...]

Now what's the email address of the guy that sending a ton of emails to will possibly get him to fire this stupid treasonous fuckface?

i hope in america this is a fringe lunatic minority?

here in Europe, unforanately, this is the face of the mainstream left

#76 shystee

Intifada means resistance, doesn't it? I don't see anything in the quote that specifically advocates anything violent.

Read the story again:

Well, we’ve been watching intifada in Palestine, we’ve been watching an uprising in Iraq, and the question is that what are we doing? How come we don’t have an intifada in this country?

And precisely what form does the Palestinian intifada take? Sit-ins? Protest marches? Pink Tanks? Funny, every scrap of news that comes out of the ME leads me to beleive that intifada might, just might have something to do with killing lots of innocent people.

It is Mr. Bazian who made that connection, not anyone posting here. Do deny that that connection was made is to be willfully ignorant.

#19 FH

Model4, you are correct. This will never make the News Networks, including Fox. What a Mad, Mad world we live in...

It doesn’t need to make the news networks. By tomorrow morning, Instapundit will have picked this up. Then Taranto will follow, then Mark Steyn, Jonah Goldberg and Lileks. By five tomorrow afternoon, this will be all over the web. Steyn, Goldberg and Lileks will have it in newspapers by the end of the week. Screw the networks, they’re selling yesterday’s news today.

Zombie, you are a National Treasure. Your efforts are not any less important to America’s survival than the efforts of America’s soldiers.

Hate M Bazian .com

The time is overdue to establish independent centers in North America for rigorous Islamic learning. In order to attain a fuller submission to Allah, we must recognize that Allah is present in every realm of knowledge, whether it be math, physics, fiqh, medicine, tafseer, engineering, or tajweed. We have been learning from those who desire only to remove Allah (S.W.T.) from knowledge. It is therefore a necessity for us to remove the cover that has been placed over Islamic knowledge. All of our knowledge ultimately has to be Islamic, but the prerequisite for a true Islamization of our knowledge is a firm grounding in the sciences of religion. It is the goal of al-Qalam to provide that grounding.

#76

Intifada means resistance. Correct. The examples Mr. Bazian used in his speech are not Gandhi's.

He used the Palestinian intifada, where suicide/homicide bombers do their damndest to kill as many civilians as possible. He used the uprising in Iraq, where a bunch of Syrian/Iranian/Iraqi/etc. terrorists and ex-Baathists are doing their best to kill as many of the Coalition forces as possible.

If one is to take his examples of intifada as what he desires to see in an intifada here, yes, he is advocating violent insurrection and revolution.

Do you really want to be around if/when his intifada begins?

By the way, I do not know if he is a citizen? If he is not, the penalties are much lighter - merely deportation.

#93 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier

That last sentence should be...

To deny that that connection was made is to be willfully ignorant.

PIMF.

As the great Ronald Reagan once regarding violent left-wing protesters (while governor of California during the late '60s), "If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with."

Also, what did he say after he finished "we haven't seen radicalism yet," anyone know?

I ask because it sucks to make a fool out of ourselves if the next sentence was "I advocate a peaceful intifada" or something like that. I mean, the chances are next to nothing, but it's technically possible.

Do you really want to be around if/when his intifada begins?

I not only want to be around, I want to be locked and loaded.

I'm now listening to Jim Morrison's "This Is The End".

I'm divided between inspirational music, and such apocalyptic pieces right now. I don't think the enemy truly knows what he is up against. There are Canadian destroyers out there tonight, and they basically take orders from CENTCOM right now.

Islamists, you had better start to dissipate the anger toward the US. Otherwise, Americans will "walk down the hall", against radical Islam. You will all be killed, in a "justified" genocide which has never been seen before.

The West wants to get on with more productive things than truck bombs.

#33 Midas Mulligan

Moreover, how would you do it in a cilivized way, that did not undermine democracy, civil rights, etc?

Basically, representatives in the House, after receiving massive public input, would begin introducing bills, modeled on the German laws prohibiting Nazism, declaring certain ideologies incompatible with our political system, values, way of life etc., and demanding that they be banned, and the Bill of Rights amended accordingly. The first several will be voted down. People will have to die first.

After several attacks, the bill would pass in the House and move to the Senate, where it would stall. A couple more attacks and it would pass overwhelmingly (the public would demand it). The sitting president would sign it into law immediately, because to veto it would launch a civil war. In the meantime lawsuits would be launched, but fat lot of good they would do. The law was passed through an entirely democratic process. The traitors at the ACLU would try their damndest, but in the face of 80+% public support for the guvmint's actions, they would ultimately fail.

How would you go about removing these people

Most of these people would remove themselves. Witness the exodus of many Muslims after 9-11 for Canada and other countries. They all complained about the "hostile climate". Those people have no idea what a real hostile climate is. Not far from where I live (about 15 miles) there's a mosque that a large number of people marched on in reaction to 9-11. The media reported and portrayed it as an out-pouring of bigotry. What they failed to tell the public was that Muslims in that neighborhood were openly celebrating on 9-11, cheering, honking horns, laughing------and the march was in response to that. Because there were no follow-up attacks in the days after 9-11, the offended people simmered down and dropped it. But just you watch what the average American will do in the face of a wave of suicide bombings at grocery stores, for example. This is why the average person who is unaware of the machinations of the State Dept. scratches his head in response to the Israeli lack of response to their jihadi problem.

It kind of makes you wonder, what the hell is the FBI doing? How far are they going to let this go? Do we have to have complete chaos before they act?

I know if I'm 15 over on the speed I have to pay. But then this shit, and all the rest, goes on and on an fucking on.

It really is subversively depressing. I'd like to see some justice.