Oh lord, that poor dog. What kind of inhuman animals would do such thing?!

Please, someone, call the ASPCA!!!

I love these photoshopped images. Nothing beats laughing at those crazy, evil faces changed into puppy dogs, the Three Stooges, and Elvis - or in Arafat's case, a fish!

yo qiero taco hell?

There is an al Aksa M B chief in Jenin that I know is high on Israel's Apache target list. I think his last name is Zubeidi.

#4 csva

yo qiero taco hell?

ROTFLMAO!

Lysander

OT but interesting:

Good news about the Fence.

Jordan's worried - and if what they are worried about comes to pass, that would be a good thing.

OT: If you were participating in the gay-marriage tiff that flared up on the Bush Responds thread yesterday, I've just answered several of the posts. (Scroll down to the bottom.)

Yo quiero Intifada.

..best looking paleo I've ever seen.

Lavender, such a pretty color for a shroud.

Shouldn't the ruff be light green?

Such a cute widdle tewwowist.

On topic: As a young child, I had a dog named Coffee and my sister and I used to subject her to dress-up games. (Actually, Coffee didn't care, at least up to a point -- attention is attention!)

As an adult, from time to time when I was drunk I would use a towel to transform my dog Poochy into a crime-fighting superhero or, sometimes, a beautiful bride. (While singing "Here comes zee briiide" in a Peter Lorre voice -- a shiny new penny for anyone who gets the cinematic reference.)

Then I would hold his front paws and show him how to Charleston, and when he got tired of that (in about three seconds), I'd wrestle him to the ground and SCRATCH HIS BI-I-I-G TUMMY. Man, I love dogs.

(There is, of course, a big difference between playing dress-up with a dog when you're drunk, and making the poor creature go around in a sissy outfit ALL THE TIME so the world can see how pwecious he is...)

Throbert McGee, LOL!

OT from the top stories sidebar, but it's one of those fun threads so I don't feel bad. This is so fuckin' creepy.

#17 evariste

Creepy is right. Sounds like the cops are being very carefully to get a case before they charge him.

#5 Joel

There is an al Aksa M B chief in Jenin that I know is high on Israel's Apache target list. I think his last name is Zubeidi.

And is that his portrait?

What a dog!

As the Israelis kill terrorist leader after terrorist leader, the terrorists leaders are younger and younger. Eventually the terrorists run out of humans (sort of) to lead them, and start to appoint cute animals...

I feel sorry for the donkeys... :-(

OK, dog stories. I'm down with that...

I was raised with Bouviers. Sunday, our first, was an awesome watchdog/protector. Very sweet & affectionate, but a VICIOUS BITCH if she percieved a threat.

Out walking her one day, a peal of thunder broke out above us. The VICIOUS BITCH took off for home, leaving a trail of droppings behind her. We found her cowering under my dad's desk in the basement.

The VB was no match for Mother Nature. Mother Nature scared the sh*t right out of her.

That bitch is a ho.

Also, I think she's wearing Woody's sunglasses from Natural Born Killers

#21 zorkmidden

I feel sorry for the donkeys... :-(

Do you know something the rest of us don't know about the current 'spiritual leader' of Hamas?

Oh dear. Are we going to see a picture of a donkey swarm :-(

Pigs Flying Alert!!!

Al-Reuters headline:

"Islamists involved in Uzbek suicide bombings"'

[Link: www.reuters.co.uk...]

Man, Sir Elton has not aged well.

RC neo-Jew

LOL! I just want them to leave the donkeys alone. That's all.

Poor burritos...

Once the terrorists run out of cute animals to lead them, they will have to appoint uncute animals. They already have a replacement for Arafat ready for when he dies. Nobody will notice the difference, of course.

Safe Haven for Donkeys rescues donkeys abused by Arabs in Israel. Check out some of the pictures, the donkeys are adorable!

RC neo-Jew, ROFL!!!

Throbert - Arsenic and Old Lace?

evariste, that is so adorable! :-)

I ♥ donkeys

OT:

Dont know if some Canadians or even Americans have yet seen this interview on Fox News with Bill O'Reilly and Michael Moore?

If not, definetely worth the download time to see it (8 mins or so for 1 & 2 part )...but it shows Michael Moore as very scattered and unsure of his facts, yet Bill O'Reilly comes across very well with his facts in order.

I personally have only seen past soundbytes of Moore but this interview confirms him as the idiot I always assumed him to be...

Bill O'Reilly Vs Michael Moore

#17 Evariste

Him and Petersen are peas in a pod. What's truly horrifying about these cases is that murder is the leading cause of death of pregnant women. That's fucking freaky...

#9 Throbert: I read the WHOLE thread!
Go see what you think of my comment. :-)

RC Neo Jew

The combination of the security fence and active Israeli counter terror measures (assisted by superb on the ground intelligence of spies, informers, double agents, etc.) is allowing Israel to win its war.

#29 evariste

Many non-western cultures are shockingly cruel to animals. For example, Chinese believe that brutal slaughtering practices make meat better tasting. And one of their favorite meats is from St. Bernard dogs.

Interestingly, the ASPCA was founded in 1866.

Wait till the Palestinian terrorists are reduced to appointing one of these as leader of a 'wing' of Fatah - and the IAF carries out a pinpoint assassination by firing this at it.

#29 evariste

I rode a donkey (and also a camel), when I was visiting a bedoin camp tourist attraction in Israel. I felt so bad for the donkeys, because they really can't weigh much more than myself, and they are forced to carry big humans around.

#38

You mean the Paleo's haven't appointed one of those already?

#38 RC neo-Jew, ROFL!!!

#36 Joel

Yes, I agree.

(assisted by superb on the ground intelligence of spies, informers, double agents, etc.)

I wonder whether that's why they allow the mass demonstrations of masked, gun-firing members of Hamas, etc, without harming them? Perhaps they are not all what they appear to be.

OT -

Everyone's writing off California as a sure win for Kerry but look at this map of Arnold's win last fall:

[Link: vote2003.ss.ca.gov...]

Outside of The Axis of Horseshit that is San Francisco and Hollywood, Arnold and the Republicans did very well. Yes, I know, Arnold is different from Bush but I can dream, can't I?

#43

Bush could win California if he would enforce immigration law, e.g. have the Border Patrol resume the interior sweeps which were wildly popular among southern California Americans for the couple weeks they lasted.

The last R to be Gov was Pete Wilson after he endorsed Prop 187, which would have ended taxpayer subsidies to illegal aliens. Illegal immigration costs the state at least $5 billion annually, a major reason for the overwhelming red ink. (Arnold just borrowed $27 billion to keep the state afloat for a lttle longer.)

#32 zorkmidden, I &heart; donkeys too, they're such sweet and gentle animals. They're actually quite smart, too, from what I understand-far smarter than most horses and about as smart as dogs. Great guard animals too, they'll kick the crap out of a coyote. Somehow I think that's a more dignified role than the toil of being an abused beast of burden that they suffer.
#34 cincysux-

What's truly horrifying about these cases is that murder is the leading cause of death of pregnant women.

OMG. What?! What's going on here. I never heard that, that's a shocking datum.
#37 Brenda-

For example, Chinese believe that brutal slaughtering practices make meat better tasting.

Well, that just about takes the cake. How sickening.
You trace the founding of the ASPCA to the 19th century (I've researched this and the RSPCA is even older, by almost a half century if I'm not mistaken), but a greater degree of kindness to animals than any other culture espouses has been in the Western canon for far longer than that, thanks to the Jewish conception of God. People snicker at religion (see the Kerry thread) but Judaism and Christianity introduced some real changes in the world; the sense of individual responsibility and the personal responsibility for salvation are what I cite the most when challenged to prove a real contribution to the Western canon of philosophy. You can literally see a turning point where the idea of the individual human and his responsibility appeared on the world's stage. The sixth Noahide law of

Ever Min HaChay: prohibiting removing and eating a limb from a live animal.

is something I now realize was also a new thing in the world when it was promulgated. It's hard to see from thousands of years later what, exactly, made the Jewish tribes different from all the other tribes that wandered around the area, but those are some worldchanging ideas they had. I think the Christian doctrine of Grace is equally an immense idea. Christians are guaranteed entry to heaven for accepting Jesus' sacrifice, so they do good works on earth as a thanks for the grace of God. Contrast that with muslims, whose Qur'an is full of threats of eternal damnation and Allah's anger. Speaking of Islam, one of the reasons muslims are so cruel to mules, donkeys and horses is the story in the Qur'an that has them carrying the firewood for a pyre to burn Abraham alive on. Salamanders are also hated because one blew on the fire. They've been hating lizards for a long time! :-)

evariste,

They've been hating lizards for a long time! :-)

LOL, that explains everything. :-)

Yes, everiste, some guys just lose it when they get a woman pregnant... Seems like it would be easier to just desert her or something.

No shit, eh pbird? What the f*&% is these guys' problem? I'm assuming that most of these women are getting killed by the guy who impregnated them, which is probably not a bad assumption. I don't understand how getting murdered could become the leading cause of death for pregnant women.
I wonder how this compares with historically. Is it that prenatal care has gotten so good in this country that a once minor cause of death for pregnant women is now almost the biggest one, not because there's more of it, but because it's about the one thing left that medicine can't work on? I hope that's the case, because I'm seriously disturbed if this is some kind of rising trend.

You know, I'd always imagined a more -- I don't know, vicious looking -- dog of war.

#48 evariste

Maybe it is that terrible thing the left hates so much: responsibility.

Here we go, ha, its the male version of abortion. Abortion is good, right?

#37 Brenda

Other than wanting to nuke us, they eat dogs. The first one I'm used to, the second one crosses the line.

#49 CCR 7/31/2004 04:31PM PST

You know, I'd always imagined a more -- I don't know, vicious looking -- dog of war.

Three-headed Cerberus. Hee hee.

Zorkala!!!

Welcome back!!! Whatja bring us, a T shirt that says 'My friend went to Greece and all she brought me is this LGF T shirt' printed in English???

NY Nana, LOL!!!

Sorry, no t-shirts, I'm waiting for when Charles orders the v-necks.

;-)

#55 zorkmidden

Sorry, no t-shirts, I'm waiting for when Charles orders the v-necks.

I'm waiting for the golf shirts!

#48 evariste

I don't understand how getting murdered could become the leading cause of death for pregnant women.

Pure evil selfishness combined with enough hubris to think you'll get away with it. I don't get it myself. Divorce is no-fault and not much of a stigma in most places. Murder, OTOH...

#56 reaganite

I'm waiting for the golf shirts!

Yes! Please Charles, that way I could wear it to work on Fridays.

Throbert - Arsenic and Old Lace?

Nope, it was actually an homage to Woody Allen's What's Up Tiger Lily? -- which, of course, did not star Peter Lorre, but did feature an over-dubbed Japanese mobster officiating at the "wedding" of a chicken and a cobra:

Mobster 1: [gesturing at caged cobra] Eet's zee snake's wez-zink day. He's gez-zink marr-eed to a CHEEE-ken. [tossing live chicken into cage] "HERE COMEZZZ DE BRAAAH-EEED..."

Mobster 2: [turning away in sudden nausea] *Sob!* I always cry at weddings!

(Damn, it's hard to figure out to "spell" a Peter Lorre accent...)

[Engineer]

#56 reaganite

I'm waiting for the golf shirts!

Yes! Please Charles, that way I could wear it to work on Fridays.

LOL!!

Charles, you will need to up your t-shirt inventory. So many lizards, so many styles!

Am I correct in assuming that we're drinking here?

(I can't believe I'm saying the word "assume" around reaganite, but I have a margarita tempting me at the moment.)

#57 Beagle-

Divorce is no-fault and not much of a stigma in most places.

You know, I wonder how many of these murders are of married pregnant women and how many of them are of unmarried pregnant women. It's a horrible crime either way but I'm curious whether being married to a woman that bears you a child makes you less likely to kill her, or more likely to, according to statistics. I would wager that more than likely a preponderance of these cases are of married pregnant women.

#55 Zork

Oh, well...but having you back is better than a T shirt, so we win!

Hmmm, next the v-necks, perhaps, followed by a line of bicycling caps, cups...and an autographed book yet to be written, all done in Charles' free time? :)

I claim The Kugel Koncession™.

#60 zorkmidden
I got a nice USSS golf shirt in Boston, unfortunately, it says "Democratic National Convention" on it. I really hate to throw it in my rag barrel. Anyone know an easy way to remove embroidered letters?

I'm still trying to catch up on back orders ... hopefully soon!

#61 zorkmidden

Am I correct in assuming that we're drinking here?

If you have to ask, you must drink!

reaganite-apparently a suture cutter is the way to go.

ShiksaGrrrl

Are you in Canada or Britain?

I ask for the fact that you mentioned O 'Reilly vs. moore and I didn't think, that's what I get for thinking..:), that Fox News was available in either Country.

I did not watch O' Reilly (don't watch him to often anyway, don't care for his style) BUT most of the LGF family didn't think O'Reilly did that well vs the 'Fat Pig' masquerading as a human.

And Really all, what is with these bedouins and their pictures...pictures of handpuppets, Elvis, dogs. I mean is this some sort of pagan ritualistic ceremony?

#57 Reaganite

I forgot the golf shirts!

Throbert McGee - #59

I'm bummed. I could have really used that penny. :-(

I think I'll go out and rent Arsenic and Old Lace tonight. It has one of my all-time favorite lines from (the REAL) Peter Lorre:

"It's dark in here. Where am I? Oh. Here I am."

#67 evariste

reaganite-apparently a suture cutter is the way to go.

LOL, LGF should be called "Ask LGF". Someone always has an answer!

I woke up still drunk, stumbled to meet someone for beers and food, and have been drinking since.

NY Nana

I claim The Kugel Koncession™.

LOL!! We'll all be there, I'm sure. :-)

#64 reaganite

LOL, you must really-really love that shirt.

Charles, it would be so cool if you get v-necks! :-)

T-shirts are a guy thing... :-(

#69 NY Nana

I forgot the golf shirts!

How could you? :-Þ
#73 zorkmidden

LOL, you must really-really love that shirt.

It's a really nice shirt other than the DNC part.

#71 reaganite, LOL!

LOL, LGF should be called "Ask LGF". Someone always has an answer!

Serendipity, I was thinking about that a couple days ago. One of my favorite sites is Ask Metafilter, it's not as stupid and political as Metafilter itself (which I've long since stopped reading) and the questions people ask and the answers they get are fascinating. People have asked things I've wondered about since I was a little kid and had them answered. It's pretty interesting. Ask Metafilter. I would like it if there was an Ask LGF too. Ours would be cooler.

littleoldlady

"It's dark in here. Where am I? Oh. Here I am."

LOL!!

Oh, that's classic. I'll have to drink twice now.

reaganite, don't forget to wish colt a happy birthday.

evariste, that's a cool link. :-)

I liked this question:

"If sneezing with my eyes open is impossible, why can I do it?"

Let's take a poll:

How many LGFers can sneeze with their eyes open?

(I'm wondering if it's a lizard thing.)

reaganite

I'm waiting for the golf shirts!

Actually the Nike, (registered trademark, gotta do that in this litigious society, especially with edwards running) "Tiger Look", with the 'Turtle/Mock Turtle' is in. T's no absolutely correct...well exception, the little wooden things placed in the ground, on top of which a dimpled ball is placed before being struck with a fercious slice.

By your words, 'golf shirts', I take it you are a "purist", next you'll want knickers and wooden clubs...LOL.

#78 Elcid

By your words, 'golf shirts', I take it you are a "purist", next you'll want knickers and wooden clubs...LOL.

*Ahem* Bite your tongue! My preferred golf attire is shorts, a T-shirt, and my golf sandals. Some courses make me dress up! Now if I have to wear a collared shirt, shouldn't I make a statement?

No shit, eh pbird? What the f*&% is these guys' problem?

This paragraph from the story stuck in my mind:

Mark Hacking's family has described him as a kind, loving husband who may have felt driven to lie by perceived family pressures: He has an older brother who is a doctor, and another who is an electrical engineer.

"Perceived." Hmmm. I am reminded of the case of Andrea Yates, the woman who drowned her five children. While Andrea Yates alone was guilty of the murder, I never saw any way for her husband, Rusty Yates, to avoid some degree of moral culpability for his negligence.

Because what came through to me very clearly in the stories about that case was the picture of a religious fanatic who found it easier to downplay his wife's obvious mental health issues than to admit that, just maybe, the Good Lord would "give her more children than she could handle." (Apart from the fact that the couple still wasn't using birth control after Andrea's severe post-partum depression in one of her early pregnancies -- gosh, I wonder whose idea that was? -- Rusty also insisted that Andrea homeschool all five children.)

Of course, its possible that Hacking had an exemplary upbringing and that his problems developed only in adulthood. But considering how incredibly elaborate his lies were, I'm wondering whether the roots of this go way, way back in his life and family history.

Also, note the first sentence that I quoted:

Mark Hacking's family has described him as a kind, loving husband

Okay, so his family was in regular enough contact to know that he was a "kind, loving husband" but apparently had no idea that he had constructed this bizarre web of lies about his education?

Something smells wrong here. Again, not excusing Mark Hacking, but I wonder if there was serious long-term negligence on his family's part that helped make this (presumed) murder possible. Are some Mormons reluctant (compared with members of other faiths) to acknowledge mental illness as a medical problem rather than a spiritual one?

A very appropriate pic indeed! This dog could easily be Suah Arapisha's dog that she can afford with the money these would be Jooos killers, can't earn now. It got harder to pull off a suicide terror act with the 'wall' and the surgical killing of their leaders (also the ones that negotiate money on their behalf with Arafish).

The little shoes..the little SHOES..So cute..lolol

vickie (Hi Leah! :-)

I was laughing about the little shoes too, lol, and what about the Elton John glasses? lol

reaganite

*Ahem* Bite your tongue! My preferred golf attire is shorts, a T-shirt, and my golf sandals. Some courses make me dress up! Now if I have to wear a collared shirt, shouldn't I make a statement?

Right on golf buddy...yes you are allowed the "statement"...free country..well at least for a few more months...;).

I'm of the same attire family, "shorts", etc..damn shame that we 'have to' wear uncomfortable clothing, to shoot in the 70's-80's...if it gets any colder, I don't go out...old bad joke...:(.

Oh as to the golf shirt of the not so loyal opposition, get some duct tape, and with a large black marker, print...'I'm with the Marine(s) that stared kerry down, while trying to eat their lunch'.

Ok so it will take more than one strip of duct tape...lol.

Throbert, you make some excellent points about others' contributory negligence (and I know you know that ultimately the responsibility rests with the actor and not with the audience, so we won't get into that unnecessarily). I think you're hitting on something very important: the role of denial of reality in causing people to feel that their way out is to commit a horrific crime. Rusty Yates denying the reality of his wife's inability to cope; Mark Hacking's family (and we don't know anything of the whole story really, he might have been a very consummate liar and fooled anyone, who knows?) may have been denying the reality of the signs they missed, the incongruities they glossed over in the interest of harmony. But of course even more so, Mark hacking himself denying the reality that he wasn't cut out for med school or wasn't interested in the field at all.
I wonder how much less horror there would be in the world if people would just accept painful realities rather than trying to deny them. Maybe that should be part of everyone's basic primary school education: that reality is primary and perception is secondary, with vivid examples given. It's an extremely basic insight and yet somehow it seems to elude a surprisingly large number of people.
You're entirely right to want to look at how anyone could get this screwed up; I only hope the Hackings are doing so too. But they may, of course, be entirely blameless: evil does exist and some people choose to become its representatives on earth in one way or another. For instance, I'm pretty ell convinced that Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris weren't turned into the monsters they are by their family lives or anything else. They were just evil. Hannah Arendt's research and writing and the Stanford Prison Experiment vividly bring home just how commonplace and banal evil really is.

Throbert, also I meant to address this

Are some Mormons reluctant (compared with members of other faiths) to acknowledge mental illness as a medical problem rather than a spiritual one?

by insightfully pointing out that I have no idea whatsoever :-)

#84 Elcid

Oh as to the golf shirt of the not so loyal opposition, get some duct tape, and with a large black marker, print...'I'm with the Marine(s) that stared kerry down, while trying to eat their lunch'.

My young team mate at the DNC was confronted by Jesse Jackson and shook his hand. I told him I was taking him to kangaroo court when we got back to the home station. He replied "what would you have done"? I told him I would have refused to shake that rat fuck's hand.

Everiste: I think the FIRST thing that hit me as difference between the two groups of people, Pals and Jews, when I was in Israel, was the treatment of animals. One group, Jews, cared for and loved their Animals. (crazy about Animals like lots of us are).and the other group ?..ABUSERS of Animals.

I watched with first alarm and then outright DISCUST as the Arab Israeli Citizens beat the HELL out of little teeny donkeys..all piled up with G-d knows how much stuff. (all carried something that looked like broomsticks..long thing without the broom on the end of it..and smacked the animals for any reason) ***I couldnt STAND IT. I was making nasty faces at these people till our Tour Guide had to tell me to STOP cause it wasnt "safe" for me to do that.

WHY do these people do this? I KNOW people need these Animals for work, I understand that they are not Pets,..but you dont have to MISTREAT animals just cause you need them.

It makes me REALLY ANGRY... REALLY REALLY REALLY ANGRY..(make these words..ten feet tall) to see the Pals treatment of animals. (why isnt PETA saying anything about this..THEY KNOW)

YES..I know we can talk about differences in treatment of PEOPLE as well and that is very important...But ya know...everyone knows that these animals can do nothing at all for themselves..WE have to speak FOR them. WE have to rescue them.

Hiya Zork: Where you been? How you been doin?
Those shoes..so cute...lolol

DAMN I hate people who mistreat animals..I just cant stand it. Go figure it was the treatment of animals that I noticed first in Israel. Jews, like so many others, loving treatment of ALL Animals wether they are pets or working animals. Pals? G-d beating the hell out of little teeny cute donkeys.. It was so upsetting when I came across it. Ive NEVER forgotton it.

Speaking of Islam, one of the reasons muslims are so cruel to mules, donkeys and horses is the story in the Qur'an that has them carrying the firewood for a pyre to burn Abraham alive on.

Whereas Christianity had St. Francis of Assisi -- but remember, Islam is one of the Great Monotheistic Religions.

(Out of curiosity, did anyone need to Google on Frankie The Sissy to understand why I brought him up? Saints are mainly a Catholic thing, but in my experience, St. Francis' fame seems to transcend denominational boundaries.)

LOLOL...Zork..The glasses..too funnee. I keyed on the shoes and missed the glasses at first look. Now I see em.

For removing offensive embroidery, a seam ripper is the correct tool. Zips that crap right off.

Speaking of embroidery... for LGF clothing, I'm imagining a swell ball cap, two tone, with the hat part a cool grey to match the banner with the logo stitched on, plus a faded blue bill.

Vickie (Leah)

Go figure it was the treatment of animals that I noticed first in Israel

You would have been so mad in Greece. There are stray dogs all over the place, people buy a cute puppy and when they realize it's too much work to have a doberman in an apartment they let it loose in the street.

There is no SPCA in Greece, there was, but it closed down for lack of funds. Before important visits or events the government rounds up the strays and euthanasizes them.

The whole thing breaks my heart.

But I noticed how street-savvy city strays are. They wait for the light to change before they cross a street, and they know to cross where there's a light. I guess they probably go where they see people congregate, but I thought it was very smart.

reaganite

My young team mate at the DNC was confronted by Jesse Jackson and shook his hand. I told him I was taking him to kangaroo court when we got back to the home station. He replied "what would you have done"? I told him I would have refused to shake that rat fuck's hand.

I will pray that this "young team mate" does not come down with the jesse disease, you know race baiting, speaking with a lisp* and jerking ones neck around in his shirt.

One hopes that he/she did wash, 'thine hands' with a strong antispectic soap, soon thereafter.

* asterisk explained

Should anyone posting on LGF, speak with a Lisp I meant no umbrage. For jesse yes all others excepted.

zorkmidden,

euthanasizes = euthanizes

Some words are just too big for you, dear.

#92 Brenda
I actually have one, it didn't work!

#94 Elcid
This is the same team mate that the BPD came over to break it up when he made the comment to me that "Israel should abide by it's word". I about ripped his head off. He avoided talking to me for the rest of the shift.

#88 and 89 Leah, Arabs and muslims are unremittingly cruel to animals. It makes me very sad-at least humans have an amount of volition that they can speak out, or move away, or something. Animals can be controlled so much easier and can't speak for themselves, it's like their tongues are cut out and they have to endure all this torture without being able to speak a word in their own defense. If there was any justice in the world...
I just can't stand it either, it breaks my heart.
#93 zorkmidden-

Before important visits or events the government rounds up the strays and euthanasizes them.

the most horrible thing is that the Greeks gas the poor doggies to death. Can you imagine? How utterly heartless. Cradle of civilization they may be, but they're waaay behind the rest of us now.

My young team mate at the DNC was confronted by Jesse Jackson and shook his hand. I told him I was taking him to kangaroo court when we got back to the home station. He replied "what would you have done"? I told him I would have refused to shake that rat fuck's hand.

I dont know Reaganite, being civil and friendly isn't a bad thing, it's not like Jesse is Arafish!

There is no SPCA in Greece, there was, but it closed down for lack of funds.

That's such a huge indictment of modern-day Greeks and their society. In the US somehow we manage to have an SPCA that covers nearly every municipality in this spread-out country, all funded primarily by private donations from animal lovers.
What is their problem? I think a lot less of Greeks now, knowing that. Although I already had a pretty low opinion of their ingrateful anti-Americanism since WWII ended. Also, fuck them, and fuck their hairy-titted-, man-hands-having-, no-moustache-waxing-women.

#98 Jakester

I dont know Reaganite, being civil and friendly isn't a bad thing, it's not like Jesse is Arafish!

No, he's no Arafish, but I hardly call him friend, nor would I call him anyone I care to call friend. I would have refused and I would have told him why.

#97 evariste

Cradle of civilization they may be, but they're waaay behind the rest of us now.

I've been discovering that with every one of my trips there, unfortunately. :-(

To hell with that. I would not shake Jackson's hand; I remember a dead Jewish baby in Harlem. I'm with reaganite. There is no reason to maintain pleasant social fictions with such a person as Jesse Jackson. He belongs in jail, or hanged.

Mark Hacking's family (and we don't know anything of the whole story really, he might have been a very consummate liar and fooled anyone, who knows?) may have been denying the reality of the signs they missed

Just to make it absolutely clear (not to evariste, but to everyone else), I had no intention of starting false rumors about Mark Hacking's family. I just wanted to throw out an angle for people to consider as the story develops.

And again, the reason for asking "did he have a screwed up childhood?" is not to excuse him, but to help prevent the development of future Mark Hackings.

(What an unfortunate surname, by the way, in view of the detail about that old mattress whose condition would not be commented on by police...)

evariste,

fuck their hairy-titted-, man-hands-having-, no-moustache-waxing-women

LOL!!!

Oh, wait a minute... HEY!!!

;-)

#102 evariste

He belongs in jail, or hanged.

I don't know if I'd go that far, but he is scum. No way would I pretend to be civil to him.

Throbert-I need to Google St Francis of Assisi but I didn't, preferring to let you explain why you mentioned him. Was he a champion of kindness to animals? I'm definitely familiar with his name, but not any of his life details or anything like that. I don't know why he's such a saint or whatever.
And the thing about the surname made me laugh, as grim as it is.

reaganite

"Israel should abide by it's word".

Israel is, Sharon said we will attack all terror acts, pre and after they occur.

"I about ripped his head off."

You could have, but good you maintained composure, as you are trained and gentlemanly, anyway (I know, up to a point, as I am..:).

"He avoided talking to me for the rest of the shift."

Wonderful that he did, elsewise, the (I know, up to a point, as I am..:), would have no doubt been breached.

NY Nana

Have you been feeding the cats in New York again?

zorkmidden, LOL! :-) Present company excluded, naturally ;-)

#107 Elcid
We pick on each other mercilessly. Him and I dogged each other all week. He knew he crossed the lineand shut up. My problem with him is he doesn't know why.

evariste, LOL! It's all good. ;-)

All the cool kids are in this thread. *rubs belly contentedly, gets up for another beer*

Horrible to hear this about the Greeks..What happened to THEM?.These are THA GREEKS..Greece and all that means in History. More I hear about this Country and its people and its behavior NOW..more I dislike them.

While Im at it. I want Israel to STOP doing that business with letting big guys ride on little teeny donkys-- just for fun. We can figure out OTHER things to do for fun rather than that. They dont need to be doing that AT ALL. NO good reason for it. Big Men are to heavy for those sweet little animals.

More I hear about this Country and its people and its behavior NOW..more I dislike them.

Yeah, I dislike them too. And I'm one of them.

:-(

Anti-americanism and anti-semitism are flourishing in Greece at the moment. Worse than I've ever seen it before.

I didn't just have a bigel moment while I was there, I had a bigel month.

Arabs and muslims are unremittingly cruel to animals.

Hmmm. Vegetarians are fond of quoting Gandhi's remark that "the greatness of a civilization can be measured by the way its animals are treated."

I always took this to be a Hindu's self-congratulatory slam against the beef-eating British, and my response to Mr Gandhi, assuming he said anything of the kind, would be "the greatness of a civilization might be more meaningfully measured by whether it perpetuates practices like caste discrimination and suttee."

But now that you mention it, I wonder if he was knocking Indian Muslims, in which case, good on him.

Reganite..and Everiste...I think that Jesse Jackson is OVER now..but he did SUCH DAMAGE. My G-d...did he.

Now we have the next one..Sharpton. Standing there on the Protest Line in Harlem..urging the murder of Jews (he said others..or whites..in fact they were Jews or most of em) cause they dared to have a store in Harlem and wanted to??expand. (If I remember correctly, that was one of the issues)

WE know that there were others whose businesses might have been affected by the expansion..but to URGE THE BURNING OF THE PEOPLE TO DEATH to get what you wanted? Too much..and he was an HONORED GUEST at the Convention?

I dont know people..I dont recognize that behavior as decent American behavior..Sharpton OR the people that let him speak at the Convention OR the people that clapped wildly for him. Geeze...

Evariste,
I heard that Arabs call their donkeys Jews as they beat them!

Reaganite

I hope that this article Delegates, here's your T-shirt, what's your hurry? will make my forgetting up to you!

I hope we have a better class of T shirts for you in NY!

#81 Hawaiian cocoNUT

Number 1:suha would be walking a French poodle..she lives in Paris, spending all his stolen money, and perhaps not a poodle, for they are beautiful dogs, and she looks like this on a good day!

Number2: would you wish it on any dog to have suha as it's owner? I doubt she would walk it anyway. Can you imagine what the alleged daughter must look like?

#108 [Engineer]

Sheees, I can't trust you with a secret! I should have told Reaganite instead.

Zorkala

I will make one special request for you!

#116 vickie
When Sharpton walked through I did my damnedest to fart at him. Damn the man, if they hadn't ordered us not to drink I could have done it!

All joking aside, I really did try.

NY Nana

I will make one special request for you!

All your leftovers are belong to me!

Btw, the pug is hysterical, LOL

Zork: You wonder what the hell is UP with these "excellent" Civilizations like Greece..They schmutz up their NOTABLE accomplishments ..(E Gad.. they are THE GREEKS..what else to say except that) by letting themselves wallow in Antisemetism. Shame really.

Look what they did..and now look what they are now...I wonder what do they need Jew Hating for? Arent they above that? Arent they too talented and too busy being GREEK (Most of Western Civilization comes from the BRAINS and HEARTS of these people..TREMENDOUS Accomplishment) to be indulging in this Crap?

#118 NY Nana
LOL, thank you!

I hope we have a better class of T shirts for you in NY!

The DNC contracted 80% of the hotels in Boston. The USSS asked for some of them. The DNC said "here's 100 rooms", the USSS said "we need 800". The DNC said "tough shit".

The RNC took us into account when they made the contract. Enough said.

#119 reaganite, ROFL!!

Oh, oops :-) me on Jesse Jackson:

He belongs in jail, or hanged.

reaganite:

I don't know if I'd go that far, but he is scum. No way would I pretend to be civil to him.

Leah:

..Sharpton. Standing there on the Protest Line in Harlem..urging the murder of Jews (he said others..or whites..in fact they were Jews or most of em) cause they dared to have a store in Harlem and wanted to??expand. (If I remember correctly, that was one of the issues)

Ooh. That's right. I'm so embarrassed. I was thinking of Sharpton who's guilty for the death of that Jewish baby and the burnings of those Harlem stores. Jackson is the one that extorts money from corporations. Sharpton's who I think belongs in jail or hanged, reaganite :-) I'm an idjit. Jackson deserves a few asskickings and for his extortion money to be taken away from him but that's about it. Thanks for helping me remember I'm a dumbass, Leah :-) Heh heh heh.
I too can't believe they had Sharpton speak at the convention like a legitimate human being. I thought Carter was pretty bad too but Sharpton just takes the cake as far as inappropriateness goes.
Throbert-

Vegetarians are fond of quoting Gandhi's remark that "the greatness of a civilization can be measured by the way its animals are treated."

Huh! I used to be vegan and I never heard that, although I agree with the sentiment. One of my pie in the sky ideas is that my onetime obsession and sometime pleasure still, Animal Cop shows, be broadcast on Arab tv networks to show them that it's possible to treat animals differently and maybe by comparison make them realize they're acting like savages. Who knows how effective that would be, my guess is not very, but I still want to try it.
Jakester,

I heard that Arabs call their donkeys Jews as they beat them!

LOL!

Leah,

Arent they too talented and too busy being GREEK

They also spent 500 years in dhimmitude as part of the Ottoman empire. Greeks identify themselves more with Turks and Arabs than with Western Europeans. The music is very eastern, the food, the coffee, the way of life, everything is more eastern than western.

Plato is dead. Long live Arafat!

reaganite

"he doesn't know why."

Ain't that a pisser, some never get the "why".

one can't have who, where, how, what and when, without the why.

reaganite,

All joking aside, I really did try.

LMAO!

Reganite: I didnt know you were UP THERE. Kinda hard duty... I went to ONE..Convention. Democratic Convention in Atlantic City..After Jack was killed and Lyndon was Nominated.

One of these days Ill have to tell you..OFF THE BOARD (dont wanna give away secrets. lolol)..how we wangled our way UPSTAIRS when we only had passes for the Downstairs. (we couldnt see anything down on the main floor..so we decided to try to get upstairs..and we did...lolol)

G-d must not be able to do it now tho...Times have surely changed.

No joke, I really did try to foul the atmosphere. My own little protest...

#116 Vickie, I feel as long as we let Sharpton and other racial extortioners go free, without any consequences things will never improve. When pc does die in this country, a lot of people are gonna be in shock.

We need to tell anyone who'll listen the truth about AA, set asides and other government giveaways, we've got judges that help criminals, teachers too with less knowledge than kids in the classrooms, and Maxine Waters in congress.

I bet that bitch can't spell her state's name.

Pc may get alot more Americans killed before common sense is the rule of discourse in our country.

#128 vickie

I didnt know you were UP THERE.

I jinxed myself, I said on Thursday of last week that I made it through a week without going on the road. Silly me, I ended up in Boston.

reaganite, LOL!

No joke, I really did try to foul the atmosphere. My own little protest...

You do realize the more you say stuff like "all joking aside" and "no joke" the funnier this seems :-)

#115 Throbert

My favorite Gandhi quote was when the Mahatma famously responded to a question about what he thought about western civilization by saying "I think it would be a good thing."

That was pretty brash talk from a man whose country has given us the words "suttee" (bride burning) and "purdah" (lifelong house arrest for women).

Interestingly, the Brits banned suttee early in the 1800s. So much for the evils of colonialism.

reaganite, #129

I think the Geneva Convention addresses the use of inflammable gas as a protest.

British colonialism rules OK

I talked with a Russian emigre from St. Petersburg last week and we had a good laugh about the Paleo's conceit "Jeningrad", as if that was comparable to the Siege of Leningrad where 1 million civilians and 2 million soldiers died over 900 days. We both had a good laugh. The rest of the guests, in typical American fashion. were so ignorant of history and geography they couldn't follow any of it without lengthy exegis.

#132 evariste

You do realize the more you say stuff like "all joking aside" and "no joke" the funnier this seems :-)

Asshole! :-Þ. Funny thing is, we always try to be as rude as possible without being rude to these asshats. Make sense?

#134 Paul

I think the Geneva Convention addresses the use of inflammable gas as a protest.

Bah! That only applies in war!

Jakester, #136

The rest of the guests, in typical American fashion, were so ignorant of history and georgraphy..."

Please, you're sounding like Michael Moore.

Funny thing is, we always try to be as rude as possible without being rude to these asshats. Make sense?

More than you know :-) I used to work in the restaurant industry and I know exactly what you're saying ;-) When you're in a position of service to someone that doesn't deserve it much, it's easy to start figuring out ways to have fun at their expense :-)

OK, beer and lack of sleep are finally catching up to me, I can barely keep my eyes open. I'm off, possibly for just a few hours, but more than likely I won't wake up again until tomorrow afternoon. Later yawl :-)

Cin: DO NOT get me started on Maxine Waters. Ohmagawd--I canNOT stand that woman. She hates us..and I hate her.

Do you all know what happened when good ole Maxine heard Joe Lieberman was going to be nominated for Veep the last time around? She was ON the FLOOR...screaming her discusting antismemtic head off..cause the Dem. Party DARED to nominate a JOOO for Veep and not an African American. And NO BODY...said anything about what SHE said. THE BIGOTED BASTARD!!!

DO NOT..ever get me started on her. Thats just ONE little story. The stories about her and what she said during the OJ thing...Just unbelievable remarks..Hates America..HATES whites like Crazy... UGHHH

Remind me of more stories about Maxine... all you Calif People...

evariste,

I used to work in the restaurant industry and I know exactly what you're saying ;-)

I read "Kitchen Confidential" and that shook me up, but you're scaring me, lol.

That's the best one yet! Still LOL

#139 evariste
The funny thing is, they have no idea how much power we have. I have routine access all the way to the top. I also have access to blocking theirs. Outside of around 100 people in this nation if I cry "bullshit" people don't get inside. I love it when they make me prove the point.

zorkmidden-Oh God, I haven't read Kitchen Confidential but if you're scared about creeps doing stuff to your food, I never ever did that. But people do do that, sadly. I personally think there should be huge jail time for that kind of offense, I don't think messing with someone's food is right. But not many people really do in my experience. I was more talking about making people idiots without them realizing it, setting up elaborate pranks, that kind of thing. We only ever did it to really stuck up or pretentious people.

Paul, that same level of ignorance will prolly cause us to lose the war on Islamicism. The # of Michael Moores >> # of Victor D. Hansens! Amongst fellow americans, I feel free making those honest and negative remarks. It would be different if I went to Europe and did the same. Plainly speaking, our country's historical ignorance is shocking and that makes it easy for the demagogues to take over the discussion. It wouldn't hurt if people spent less time reading MTV celebs' biographies and more good history and political books!

Reganite: Do you get to go to NY then? Are you gonna work that Convention as well? I imagine that they are gonna need a TON of people in NY. Lets face it..the Arabs think of NY as JEW YORK..and would love to cause trouble there at any time..for any reason..Especially if they can hurt..1. Bush..and 2. New York. It would be their wet dream .. a one/two punch.

Have you done any Innaugurals?

evariste, LOL, I wasn't really worried, I always tip well and don't demand much. :-)

My first job in the States was as a busperson. They fired me after a week.

zorkmidden-I had to check that out on Amazon.

Most diners believe that their sublime sliver of seared foie gras, topped with an ethereal buckwheat blini and a drizzle of piquant huckleberry sauce, was created by a culinary artist of the highest order, a sensitive, highly refined executive chef. The truth is more brutal. More likely, writes Anthony Bourdain in Kitchen Confidential, that elegant three-star concoction is the collaborative effort of a team of "wacked-out moral degenerates, dope fiends, refugees, a thuggish assortment of drunks, sneak thieves, sluts, and psychopaths," in all likelihood pierced or tattooed and incapable of uttering a sentence without an expletive or a foreign phrase.

LOL! Describes every kitchen I've ever dealt with. Those people are nuts. I still have friends from my restaurant days though, and foodies and restaurant employees are some of the most passionate and wonderful and weird people you'll ever meet. I just found that line in the review hilarious. I added the book to my wishlist :-)

She also said the rioters were justified and actually encouraged them to burn down L.A.

I thought they'd be arresting her for treason, yet she still is making a mockery out of congress, just by her presence.

I think she was trapped in the mountains, not born but like a demon just popped into existence

My first job in the States was as a busperson. They fired me after a week.

LOL :-)

I wasn't really worried, I always tip well and don't demand much.

I always seemed to remember people talking about fucking with other people's food like it's their right to or something. I find that to be the most offensive and disgusting thing anyone can do.

evariste, it's a very good book, LOL, and he's a good writer.

I'm not really a foodie, but I have friends who are and they drag me to good restaurants against my will.

I do enjoy it though. :-)

reaganite,

The funny thing is, they have no idea how much power we have. I have routine access all the way to the top. I also have access to blocking theirs. Outside of around 100 people in this nation if I cry "bullshit" people don't get inside. I love it when they make me prove the point.

that was why I was especially amused at the part of your story the other day from the DNC where you were talking about the guy trying to watch you search his stuff, and then he tried to defy you when you ordered him across the street-funny! People don't really seem to realize what's going on or who's in control a lot of the time, which makes for comical situations :-)

Cin: WHY wasnt that WOMAN arrested for inciting to MURDER and RIOT and whatever? I couldnt BELIEVE the things she was saying then. It was so BAD. Why dont people finally SAY something about her and people like McKinney?

These people are going TOO FAR. WAAAY too far. Waay over the toop. America isnt perfect but NOT like THEY depict America. Not even CLOSE.

evariste,

I always seemed to remember people talking about fucking with other people's food like it's their right to or something. I find that to be the most offensive and disgusting thing anyone can do

I don't even want to think about that. LOL. But I'm familiar with restaurants in Greece, and the Greeks are crazy people so I wouldn't put anything past them.

#147 vickie

Do you get to go to NY then?

Most likely. My leave ends the week before and my boss wants me on the road (he hates that the shop follows me, not him).

Have you done any Innaugurals?

Weird thing is after all these years I've missed them all! I hope to get to W's un January before I retire.

#153 evariste

People don't really seem to realize what's going on or who's in control a lot of the time, which makes for comical situations :-)

It always cracks me up when "important" people think they have a say in matters. When I'm working unless you are the person I am assigned to, you don't mean shit!

When I'm working unless you are the person I am assigned to, you don't mean shit!

That reminds me of that woman,

but I'm in Congress!

LOL!

Hi guys, I'm here for my weekly grovelling to direct some traffic over to IsraPundit. This week I ask (and answer) the question: Why Do They Hate Us? (And Why Should We Care?)

Thanks in advance for checking it out. Also: It's been pre-approved by jinnderella!

Maxine Waters, Jeese Jackson and Al Sharpton are beautiful, powerful, articulate African Americans, a stirring example of the race!
/Afrocentrism off

#158 evariste

That reminds me of that woman,

I really enjoyed that one! :-Þ

#146, Jakester

Explanation accepted and, unfortunately, I have to agree with it. A country that accepts a charlatan like Michael Moore into the marketplace of politcal ideas is in serious trouble.

158 evariste

but I'm in Congress!

Wasn't that Cynthia "It's the J-E-W-S" McKinney who used to keep her limo idling outside her house which was just a block away from her DC office?

Reaganite

I just got my RNC assignment and I'll be working the Garden. Hope to catch up with you.

patrickafir

Also: It's been pre-approved by jinnderella!

"It's been pre-approved by my ball sack" would have been a far more enticing blurb than that.

R: Try to work one Innaug. It is fun. (the whole day) and then you might have to work the Balls..They are fun to go to for the first 5 minutes...and then they are THE MOST BORING thing you ever were at in your ENTIRE LIFE...lolol..Ive been to 4.. and a half..I crashed Carters Ball...I ended up at the NAACP Ball..and got my hands on a Presidential Seal..and got caught with it..and a Secret Service Guy (or whatever he was) took it away from me..and put if UNDER HIS JACKET..to take home himself...the BASTARD...LOLOLOLOL Alls fair in "stealing the goodies" from the room. (the thing was over anyway) It was funnn that night.

I suspect there are gonna be a gillion of you guys up there in NY..or should be. Then of course everyone ELSE has to watch everyWHERE else...sheesh.

You are an Officer, right? Been to Andrews Buffet? Or been to Army Navy Club. I think you qualify for both...

#163 Nekama

I just got my RNC assignment and I'll be working the Garden. Hope to catch up with you.

If I go, we'll have to damage our livers!

Wow. So those office rumors that Sheik Yasssin has been reincanated as a cross dressing dog are true?

Woah!

#164 evariste

"It's been pre-approved by my ball sack" would have been a far more enticing blurb than that.

I'm afraid I don't follow your meaning, but I hope you'll go to read my op-ed piece. It's not really about me or jinnderella so much as it's about Israel, the United States, and Islamic terror.

#165 vickie

You are an Officer, right?

Why would you insult me that way?! ;-Þ
I never wanted to be an officer. With my family history it would have been easy. Then again I wouldn't have been able to do this job (which I love) if I was.

In an article in the Denver Post a couple years back, the local public health authorities recommended that people who ate out often should get hepatitis shots. That's because so many of the kitchen staff are illegal aliens who have never had a health screening and could easily pass hep along. Many are illiterate and aren't aware of basic cleanliness like hand washing.

So eating out at restaurants is not as inviting as it once was.

166 reaganite

If I go, we'll have to damage our livers!

The first drinking thread's on me!

Throbert-I need to Google St Francis of Assisi but I didn't, preferring to let you explain why you mentioned him. Was he a champion of kindness to animals?

Not necessarily in his lifetime, but as noted in the 1911 Catholic Encyclopedia:

the early legends have left us many an idyllic picture of how beasts and birds alike, susceptible to the charm of Francis's gentle ways, entered into loving companionship with him; how the hunted leveret sought to attract his notice; how the half-frozen bees crawled towards him in the winter to be fed; [...] and how his "little brethren the birds" listened so devoutly to his sermon by the roadside near Bevagna that Francis chided himself for not having thought of preaching to them before.

Suffice to say these legends were not based on eyewitness accounts, but emerged as "pious superstitions" as a way of underscoring to the laypeople what an extraordinarily mild-mannered and Christlike dude St. Francis was. In Catholic iconography, he is often shown with sparrows perched on his head, bunnies cradled in his arms, chipmunks frolicking at his feet, and so forth.

Apart from being the patron saint of animals on the basis of these legends, Francis is celebrated for having abandoned a wealthy and lustful adolescence to embrace a lifestyle of voluntary poverty and service to the poor.

He started the Franciscans, a Catholic religious order known for its coarse brown robes inspired by the founder's peasanty garb. Among Catholics, he is reknowned for doing The Bestest J.C. Impression Ever. (Except that the Church uses language like "the Sublime Perfection of Francis' Imitation of Christ," or somesuch.)

Finally, he is credited with authorship of a prayer that has been set to music as the well-known hymn "Make Me a Channel of Your Peace." (Which once showed up in a Buffy episode, in a version sung by that bald Irish chick...)

R: O...KAYYY...Sorry...NEVERMIND...No Andrews then..It is or was this unbelievable buffet out there. (forgot what day in the week) Thought you might qualify and didnt know about it. Thought if you qualified Id tell you about it. Same with Army Navy Club..and their Peach Melba.

reaganite, #169

I never wanted to be an officer.

Why be an officer and lose all your authority, respect, and miss the fun?

Vickie if you feel like it go read my posts 141 and 146 on the michael moore thread. You seem to be likeminded and killing pc is a must for us all.

#173 vickie
You know I was joking with you right?

#174 Paul

and miss the fun?

In my job there are no officers higher than LtC. An old friend of mine went to the reserves so he could make Major and stay in EOD. I'm glad I never went officer. I love my job too much.

"It's been pre-approved by my ball sack"

LOL!

Evariste, have you ever seen the Robert Preston movie version of The Music Man?

1st Woman: She advocates dirty books!
Prof. Harold Hill: Dirty books?
2nd Woman: Chaucer!
3rd Woman: Rabelais!
Mrs. Schinn: BAAALLL-zac!

I only bring it up because without even thinking, I read your comment in a Hermione Gingold voice.

(Yes, I've been drinking...)

OT and personal:

I hit a spyware laden site yesterday while trying to get lyrics for our band and wound up having to delete my profile on the PC to kill the self installers and popups. I stripped the registry pretty hard too. It's a wonder my PC even runs now. (regedit is dumb and deadly)

I lost all my contact info in mail as a result. Please mail me again so I can restore my LGF contacts. Thanks!

We now return to the regularly scheduled drinking thread ... *DRINK*

#177 Throbert

(Yes, I've been drinking.)

That's probably true for almost everybody on this thread.

177 Throbert

LOL!

(Yes, I've been drinking...)

WhoodAThunkIt?

#178 PostalWorker
Have you tried Hijackthis?

#163Nekama...That's Sheila Jackson Lee it's about a 200 yd trip too.

Our supposed leaders are really crappy people you wouldn't want to meet much less converse with. Most not all fit that description

182 Cincysux

That's Sheila Jackson Lee it's about a 200 yd trip too.

You're right. And it was her repugnant father's quote too, but since it's a drinking thread we play last and foose with the fax.

Cini: The Govnt is afraid of some groups..They are NEVER..repeat NEVER...going to stop Affirmative Action..Its in the "culture" now. Businesses have signed on to AA . Innoculation against lawsuits. Its endemic in all areas of our society. This will NOT stop. PLUS the Govnt has decided that AA helps introduce one group to the other. They are wedded to that concept now.

Furthermore..there are gonna be more specific groups that will get themselves signed onto these AA "programs". IF these groups, dont get what they want..they too will use VIOLENCE as a persuader.. Its as simple as that. And our Govnt and our big business cannot stand for that. So they just give in.

What happens when AA keeps going on and on? We get less and less quality..now AA going into MEDICINE and LAW and INVESTING...Its dangeous to America in that we arent using our BEST people and other countries..like perhaps CHINA ...are using their best people..Over time? what will be the result of this policy? America will lose its lead in area after area.

SHAMEFUL!!.

Postal Worker...My kid did that this spring she went to a song lyric site and basically destroyed her computer.

Pop ups kept her from browsing and my removal skills were lacking so now I've got a puter that has a fatal OE error on it and can't get it to load.

It's old but I have some info on it I'd like to have, but I refuse to spend a cent fixing it though.

Reganite: I thought you WAS (I dont know why I thought so) so I ws just telling you about the neat places here in DC that I know of for Officers. SO...if not...NOT..lololol

I worked as a salad and sandwich maker in a hotel restaurant once for a summer. I ended up doing more than making sandwiches and salads though - the chef and the cooks were prone to sudden disappearances - they would go out to the parking lot to do drugs - and the orders would start coming in for steaks and fish and whatnot, so the waitresses would stand there and tell me what to do (and I could barely boil water at the time.) The best I could do would be to frantically pretty up the plates and hope the customers had enough booze in them not to notice their "medium rare" steaks were cooked through and their fish was drier than hell.
( I did become very good at making food look impressive:-)

When the chef and the cooks were around, I saw them drop cuts of meat on the filthy floor many a time and toss it back on the grill. I never saw anybody spit on food or purposely put something disgusting in it.

The people I really came to appreciate were the waitresses, who ran their tails off and were the ones who were suffered when people did notice the overcooked steaks and fish. I always distinguish between crappy food and crappy service when I'm leaving a tip, but a lot of people don't.

After that experience, I never wanted anything to do with restaurant work ever again. That kitchen was hotter than hell, everyone sweat like pigs, and I would walk out of there smelling like greasy meat,...,

#181 reaganite

Not yet, but I will now. It took 4 hours of scouring with regclean, spybot and regedit. I kept getting registry writes and IE was opening without my asking it to. I would like 5 minutes with anyone who writes this kind of code, just 5 minutes.

#185 cincysux

If I weren't a technician, I'd have had to reload. I may just go ahead and wipe it and rebuild. I do that about twice a year anyway just to keep the system fresh and clean.

I'm considering dumping IE and going to Opera or Crazy Browser.

#172 Throbert-ah, thanks for explaining :-) I'd actually heard that stuff and forgotten it but the point is well taken: one of the saintliest saints they got shows his saintliness by being sympatico with the birds and the bees. I agree, that's good evidence of the benign attitude that Christianity takes towards animal stewardship, especially in that it's Christlike for him to have friendly relations with the animal kingdom. Quite an apposite example. As for

"the Sublime Perfection of Francis' Imitation of Christ,"

LOL! I always loved these cumbersome linguistic constructs of the Catholic church. Something charming about them.
I've never heard this "make me a channel of your peace" but I'm intrigued. And I'm pretty sure the Franciscans make a central appearance in one of my favorite books, it might be The Name Of The Rose (which movie I'm about to rewatch for the first time in years later tonight if I can stay awake) or it might be Foucault's Pendulum. Either way I'm sure it was an Umberto Eco book. He is just fabulous. Have you ever read him? If not, well damn it, you must :-)

#177 Throbert-LOL! No, I've never seen that. It's on the list now :-) My education in musicals is woefully inadequate. I've only ever seen one, and that, only in movie form: My Fair Lady (aka George Bernard Shaw's Pygmalion). You know what's interesting? OK maybe not interesting but it's sort of a thing to well, ok. It's not interesting but it is what it is. I first heard of George Bernard Shaw when I lived in Jordan, and I read his name in Arabic. I came across several references to him during the years I lived there but it was transliterated as "George Bernarsho" and sometimes "George Bernardsho", so it took me a long time to realize that George Bernard Shaw was the same guy when I started running across his name in English.

OT, sort of.

Big, full moon rising through the trees in my back yard.
It may account for some of the postings to this thread.

I think it's a "blue moon".

PostalWorker, that sucks for you dude. cincysux, get in touch with me, I will fix you right up. I'll help you salvage whatever data you need to salvage off there. Shoot me mail.

188 Postalworker

I do that about twice a year anyway just to keep the system fresh and clean.

Have you used XP's Files and Settings Transfer Wizard to do this?

I reformatted mine recently, re-installed all the software, then ran the wizard and it still took at least a week till everything was working properly. A big pain in the hiney.

The machine does run a lot better after a good scrubbing though.

Windows sucks. Disable 3rd party cookies, disable activeX, prompt for 1st party cookies and install zonealarm!

#184 vickie, honestly, I think you're being too pessimistic. Affirmative action is doomed. This country gets more and more conservative (in the good sense of the word) every year and affirmative action was one of the last gasps of the hateful 60s generation. I honestly don't believe it will last much past the next ten years or so. The black middle class is growing hugely and has been growing at a crazy rate since the early 90s. They're not going to stop. Blacks and Hispanics have the highest entrepreneurship rates per capita.
The Democratic party is fucked if they think they can get away with continuing to try to keep blacks down and keep them voting a straight D ticket. As more of them get educated and affluent they're going to start realizing which side of the toast their butter is on.
Revolutionary times are coming in this country, my friends. I only wish I was born tomorrow instead of over 20 years ago. Either way I am hugely optimistic about the future of America. Things are only going to get better. I don't exactly think I'm going out on a limb here.

My team is just finishing up a domain migration of users from an NT4 domain to an AD domain. Then we take the domain native AD.

We used the old transfer script first and it was too clunky and had to be scripted just right. We started using the transfer wizard instead. It's pretty slick.

It's still painful to users because we have more security options and can effectivel jail someone or groups into the Windows Jail. ;)

They lose all custom features like being able to go to webshots and other places and getting the PC spywared up. Ironic eh?

Donna V., LOL! That sounds a lot like my own experience of that industry.
Go to Opera, PostalWorker. From what I understand CrazyBrowser is just IE with a fancy outfit on.

#185 cincysux

It's old but I have some info on it I'd like to have, but I refuse to spend a cent fixing it though.

Take the drive out and install it as a second drive in another computer. That way you can get anything you want off of it.

#184 Vickie...I think AA is going to be abolished within my lifetime 35 yrs or so.

When Bush gets reelected we'll get to pack the court with conservatives who'll follow the constitution.

I work with a loty of younger people and they have a better understanding of how things should be than the 60's hippie crowd.

They know what's bs and what's important.

I think having a black republican President would speed things mightily.

Declaring lardassness to be a disease is a joke, I can't even get Fries at McD's cause of pc.

Next irresponsibility will be declared a disease...

188 PostalWorker

I'm considering dumping IE and going to Opera or Crazy Browser.

Go get Firefox. I am using it now and I like it a lot.

#193 Nekama

It don't transfer all program settings. With 3rd party programs it's not a guarantee.

#200 [Engineer]

Go get Firefox. I am using it now and I like it a lot.

I tried it and deleted it. To each his own!

Agreed, Firefox is quite good. I'm a control and speed freak so Opera's the one for me but Firefox is also quite good.

I hate the FAST wizard myself. It never even comes close to transferring all my info, I always end up having to spend time figuring out what it missed.I long since stopped using it and said fuck it. My own personal hierarchy of personal info is in a folder on my desktop called 'personal environment'. I keep my email message store, my browser history and preferences, my text notes, my personal wiki, my software projects, my work for clients, my pictures, my music, my serial numbers, my ebooks, my drawings, my everything in that one folder, in a well organized hierarchy, and I redirect shell folders like My Music, My Documents and My Pictures to the appropriate subfolders in it with the cunning use of registry keys and TweakUI. Fuck the FAST wizard, it's fucked me over one too many times.

evariste: I loved the Lives of the Saints when I was a kid. They were like Grimm's fairy tales or 1001 Nights to me. I remember there was another saint (St. Humbert? - maybe Throbert remembers this guy) who was also a young drinkin', whoring aristocrat who went deer hunting (not on his belly and not with a shotgun) one day and saw a vision of a crucifix between a stag's horns. The guy's reaction was not "Damn, what did they put in my beer back at the tavern?" He changed his ways and led a godly life.

When I was a kid, I wondered why some people had all the luck - they got to see crucifixes between deer horns, carry the baby Jesus across the river (St. Christopher), and were paid visits by the BVM her own self - and all I got was sitting in a pew on Sundays listening to an old priest yak. I always figured I'd be a holier person if I had a little more incentive - like a vision or two.

Really, I do miss that aspect of the Catholic Church - saints and rosaries and holy cards - all the stuff that Protestants decry as "pagan" is exactly what I like about it. But the fun stuff is mainly gone - in terms of boring social uplift and progressivism, the Catholic Church (except on matters of sex) has become as dull as any mainline Protestant church.

Donna V, my confirmation name is Olaf he was a viking who was a warrior and supposedly killed like 500 dudes before he got religion.

Have you noticed a majority of kids raised as Catholic or went to Catholic schools reject Catholicism

I redirect the My Documents folder to another drive. I don't use the transfer wizard to do files. It's the Office settings and desktop etc that I transfer.

Donna V., #205

What's a good Catholic girl like you doing on a thread like this?

Goodonya P-dub :-)

#206 cincysux

You're right, I spent eight years at St Brigid's memorizing the Baltimore Catechism (1891 version) and the rest of my life rejecting it.

#164 evariste: Please, feel free to bash me as much as you like, but try to restrict the collateral damage. There was no need to be a jerk to patrickafir. I thought your argument was with me?

Have you noticed a majority of kids raised as Catholic or went to Catholic schools reject Catholicism

Well, a lot do. I don't know if it's a majority - there are still a helluva a lot of Catholics around.

I think "folk masses" did it for me. Three imitiation Peter, Paul and Mary types singing "Michael, Row the Boat Ashore" - that was the sort of thing the Church thought was hip and happenin' in the '70's. Painful - like watching your formerly dignified grandpa turn up in a leisure suit at a wedding reception saying "Groovy, man!" and dancing the Mashed Potato.

The last time I went to mass was for my nephew's confirmation more than 2 years ago. I was seriously underwelmed by my sister's "Protestant wannabe" suburban church. No kneelers, no crucifixes, no statues. It felt about as spiritual to me as sitting in a bowling alley.

202 reaganite

I tried it and deleted it. To each his own!

Well, I did have to play with it. There are a mess of plugin that will change the way it works. For example, I can switch tabs by just waving the mouse at them.

But as you say, to each his own. Which is what makes America great and socialism suck.

#213 [Engineer]

"But as you say, to each his own. Which is what makes America great and socialism suck."

And long may it live!!!

#177 Throbert-LOL! No, I've never seen that. It's on the list now :-)

But The Music Man is essential for a full appreciation of the "Monorail Episode" of The Simpsons! And Robert Preston is truly one of the all-time greats as Professor Harold Hill. AND a very very young Ron Howard is sooo cute, you aren't sure whether to hug him or smother him with a pillow. Plus, a ridiculously high percentage of the songs are infectious showstoppers. (The composer, Meredith Willson, wrote only one other musical -- The Unsinkable Molly Brown, which was mediocre. But boy, did he hit it out of the park with The Music Man.)

I would not hesitate to put it on the short list of "Musicals for People Who Aren't Into Musicals," along with Singin' In the Rain and... oh, I dunno, those are the only two choices I feel "safe" with.

Any other suggestions from the LGF cocktail lounge?

(Paint Your Wagon has a howlingly funny script by Paddy "Network" Chayefsky along with some very catchy tunes, and would be on the list, except that it's overlong and almost all of the singers totally suck buzzard cloacas, which is a liability in a big-budget musical.)

#215 Throbert-- You should put a warning label on Paint Your Wagon-- Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin really are horrible singers.

Wilson's last musical

His third (and apparently last) musical was an adaptation of the film Miracle On 34th Street, called Here's Love (1963).

His Symphony No. 1 In F Minor, A Symphony Of San Francisco, and Symphony No. 2 In E Minor, Missions Of California, were recorded in 1999 by William T. Stromberg conducting the Moscow State Symphony Orchestra.

Willson penned a number of very well-known songs, such as "Gary Indiana," "It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas," and even "Till There Was You," which was a hit for the Beatles in 1963. He also wrote the University of Iowa's fight song.

The cast recording of "The Music Man" won the very first Grammy award ever issued.

In general, it was recognized that Willson wrote surprisingly well-crafted, complex, and subtle music that classical music fans could appreciate, with intricate and sometimes startling counterpoint, well-crafted melody, and subtle orchestration, all while still appealing to mass audiences.

#214 mudmarine

Ok, your patriotic phrase calls for a *drink*

OK, how many of you out there are listening to Bomb Saddam or Die Terrorist Die?

Speak up! and DRINK

Paint Your Wagon actually ends? I've never stayed awake long enough, I guess.

It's almost as horribly acted & filmed as The Unsinkable Molly Brown, but because Debbie Reynolds and that Harve Presnell do such COMPLETELY HORRIBLE JOBS I have to say TUMB just barely tops PYW as Worst. Cowboy. Musical. Ever.

I d/l'ed all the films & have watched all the Grouchy Media stuff.

VERY NICE.

Now if Grouchy Media could just re-do Paint Your Wagon. That would be a movie worth watching. Woo hoo!

I was catching up with the papers, and trying to sneeze to see if my eyes stay opened, but no sneeze, and in it's place, I found this real eye opener! BILL 'N' HILL OUT OF LIP SYNCH AS THE PARTY'S ODD COUPLE

#120 zorkmidden

All your leftovers are belong to me!

Btw, the pug is hysterical, LOL

I swear I have never spit on them or done worse! Uh, what I have read here is a really great appetite suppressant! And we were going to take the 4 year old out to lunch today! Thanks to you and Donna V, the diner queen of Long Island will have to eat in the scullery! (Happy August 1, and happy birthday, Colt!)

The dog looks much cuter than tereeeza and hil, also!

Send me a forwarding address...

#122 Reaganite

Enough said...I am not surprised.

This article Big Apple Terror? Sources: Al Qaeda Plotting to Attack New York City Corporations is worrisome...

On a lighter side, the local Fox channel 5 showed a small segment..they used Hunts ketchup at the DNC! I was ROTFLMAO, while outraged delegates were kvetching, and seriously outraged. /I am so glad that is the worst problem we, as a nation, face. /

#178 Postal Worker

You've got spam email...or the other way 'round! :)

#216 Jinnderella

Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin really are horrible singers

You are too kind! Why weren't they lip-synched??? Oy! What if they were?

#220 steve miller

I thought it was a comedy. I laughed my ass off the first time I saw it at the drive in.

Well, a lot do. I don't know if it's a majority - there are still a helluva a lot of Catholics around.

That's right -- and sometimes Catholic kids end up MORE Catholic than their parents. That's certainly the case for my sister, who is really doctrinaire about doing what the Vatican says, including the rejection of birth control. (But in one of G-d's Little Jokes, she is infertile because of Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome -- doubly weird because that condition has a high association with obesity and diabetes, while my sister has a figure most women would envy.)

Speaking of my sister, she and her best friend have been training extensively to participate in a 60-mile DC Walk For Breast Cancer in August. (My sister was diagnosed with thyroid cancer a few years ago and has been in total remission after radiation treatment and a thyroidectomy; and her best friend's mom was a breast cancer victim.)

My sister has also struggled with fibromyalgia, and has recently had a flare-up after noticing substantial improvement in the early weeks of her walking regimen. So she would appreciate prayers from those who pray.

Getting back to lapsed Catholics (did I mention I'm drunk, thus the trouble staying on topic?), when I went to shul last week, someone observed over the kiddush lunch that Catholics seemed to be over-represented among Christian-to-Jewish converts. True? I dunno, and even if it's true, I dunno what the significance is. I'm just bringing it up as a talking point.

Paul: It's entirely appropriate for a Catholic girl to be on a drinking thread! Drunkeness - the one "sin" the Catholics never fussed too much about, probably because if you get drunk too much too often - well, that has a way of putting a serious damper on the sin of Lust.:-)

Did any of you other cradle Catholics learn this rather PC rhyme growing up? My brother told me it was what the Pope said on the balcony in Rome:

Dominius nabisco,
shredded wheat,
All you dagos get off the street!

oops, that obviously should be "un-PC rhyme?" Although the Italian kids I knew thought it was funny anyway.:-)

Donna V.,225

LOL!

There was a hymn called "Tantum Ergo" which we sixth graders used to sing as Tantum Ergo, My Lumbago."

#210 Paul 212Donna 224 Throbert
I was skeptical of the Church immediately, telling a 5 yr old if he sins he burns forever.

Well taking the priest at his word, I figured I was savable because I felt guilty about most of my sins, except beating on my sister.

It was fun to me. So I figured I had a fistful of tickets to enter hell.

It turned me into little insomniac with worry of eternal roasting. Since I felt no guilt I figured I was already dead meat.

Then I realised no one made the pope closer to god than me because other people chose him, after that I rejected organized religion forever.

Attending a Catholic HS ,reinforced my decision.

I thought it was a comedy. I laughed my ass off the first time I saw it at the drive in.

The thing is, the movie's storyline had almost NOTHING to do with the Broadway musical at all, and I think only a couple of the songs (such as "They Call the Wind Muh-RYE-uh") originated in the stage version. Basically, they took what could've been a really funny 70-minute comedy/Western about a Gold Rush town, then for some inexplicable reason stapled on the title, character names, and a couple of songs from a Broadway show, then compounded the mess by throwing in an extremely mixed bag of musical numbers (the preacher's "Here It Is" was pretty catchy, but "I Talk To the Trees" is what the FF button on VCRs was made for), and to top it off, hired a cast of non-singers.

Still, the script is hilarious, and a few of the songs are truly memorable.

One thing that just occurred to me: my parents taught me that the "N" word and the word k*ke were bad and I should not use them. But neither they nor anybody else I knew in my very Catholic neighborhood seemed to object to terms for Catholic ethnic groups that would be considered derogatory today. I remember a conversation I had with a kid in my class when I started a new school in the 6th grade.

KATIE: Your last name sounds like a Kraut name.

ME: No, I'm a Polack and a Bohunk.

KATIE: I'm a Mick and a Dago.

Jeez, if we didn't sound like little Archie Bunkers!

Did any of you other cradle Catholics learn this rather un-PC rhyme growing up? My brother told me it was what the Pope said on the balcony in Rome:

Dominius nabisco,
shredded wheat,
All you dagos get off the street!

Heh! I'll have to ask my Baltimore-bred, Polish Catholic mother about that one.

Or, we could just phone JP2 and ask him whether he really recites that line while he's on the balcony. The direct number for the Pope is, of course:

8-CUMSPIRI-2-2-0.

(Courtesy of my mom, again -- I came along after Vatican II.)

Throbert: the only musical I ever really liked besides "Fiddler on the Roof" and "My Fair Lady" and parts of "West Side Story" (I loved "A boy like that, who keeelled your brother/Forget that boy and find another") was "Caberet."

In fact (embarrassing drunken admission to follow) my 13 year old self practiced perching on a chair in the rec room singing "Mein Lieber Herr." If anybody had secretly filmed me, I would have to kill myself.

Throbert, jinndrella & steve miller,

Ah, come on people! Hearing Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin sing is one of the great moments in cinematic history!

Bwahahahaha!

Out the winder go the beans...

You guys..I think AA is here to stay in the form it is now or by another name. (lots of name changes happen..but the programs are the same) Its in the America psyche now..to look around a workplace or any gathering for any reason..and COUNT. How many ??? and then how many of ??? and then how many of ???. Some are included in this Ethnc Checkup and some arent.

Middle Class "Minorities" go "both ways" now. Course many are from the Higher Classes but that doesnt stop them from trying to get into school with AA programs (these schools are NOT stopping their AA programs..just not informing everyone what the #s are) AND then they take this nice goodie..and parlay it into their buinesses or professions.

I heard Al Gore say...MEDICAL SCHOOL SHOULD LOOK LIKE AMERICA...Im gonna translate this FREIGHTENING statement of Gores for all of you..just in case you dont know what CODE SPEAK this is. What he meant WAS: There are too little MINORITIES in Medical School NOW..We have to AA Medical
School..YIKES...Medical School? And AA? Ohmagawd! He just said this four years ago. I couldnt believe it. Then I heard someone else ..talk about NOT enough NEUROSURGEONS of COLOR in Hospitals. (I dont know about you all but..that sort of DID IT FOR ME..with AA..)

LOOK...I dont give a hoot in HELL what color you are ... Want to go to Med School? Then all you have to do is QUALIFY at the highest levels..just like ALWAYS..YES You have to PASS the written TEST even tho...your group does less well on written tests..OR under immense pressure..will there be a change..a dumming DOWN process for entrance in Medical School..like they did with College?...G-d!!!

I can see that Schools and Buinesses THINK that it is a good INSURANCE against LawSuits IF they have AA programs going. To be FOR AA NOW is to be a DECENT NON-BIGOTED PERSON. Sooo..That we all now seem to look around and ck if a venue is TOO WHITE..or without "Minorities" is an AMERICAN value to have. Its endemic with most Americans now and I think it will not change. Lesssen a bit but now go away. Just my opinion.

OY...Im so right SOME of the time..Hope Im wrong about this..Please let me be wrong about this..cause it is affecting us..WE arent the best anymore in alot of areas.

Everiste..you are 20 something hon?

Thom: I got Fibromyalgia too.. Got ANOTHER Diagnosis last week..What does you sister take for it? What works for her? Im hurting right now and need tosee what works..and ask for it..Never hurts to ASK.

Great News! The Israeli Election results are in and Jewish Leadership Party has taken 73% of the vote!

You can tune in live to English broadcast directly from Israel...{They are waiting for the new Prime Minister's acceptance speech...}

Waayy late to the party…
#216 Jinnderella

Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin really are horrible singers

My mom LOVED that flick. She had the soundtrack on vinyl. I can still hear “I was boorrnn under a wanderin’ starr…” Lee Marvin. Not too abysmal, for what it was. OTOH, “…and they caalll the winnd Mariaahhh…” WTF was Eastwood thinking?!

# 234 Vickie. you're wrong. We've been slowing set asides and AA around the country, but the LLL are sneaky bastards always trying some new way to fuck up anything organized efficiently.

Blacks coming into the REpublican party will help, I think school vouchers will be the beginning of the end of this insanity.

I'm decent and support meritocracy, I despise AA hires and always give them a difficult time.

Black people probably aren't aware that most times I/we see blacks in authority I/we ALWAYS wonder if their competent and were hired based solely on skin pigmentation.

OT (natch):

Are any of you disrespectful displayers of no upbringing drinking tonight?

::wanders about looking for the drinking thread::

#239 Spiny Norman

Does 12 year old Dewars count?

Thor: I must be the only human being in the ENTIRE WORLD that loves "Paint Your Wagon"...I thougt it was beautiful. (photog.)and so what no one could actually sing...It was still good. Songs are great...I havent a clue why I like it and other people dont.

I think it wasnt only that they ALL werent singers..maybe the Threesome..bothered people..lolol

#240 brianstein,

But, of course! Cheers!

Throbert: the only musical I ever really liked besides "Fiddler on the Roof"

Oy gevalt*, how could I forget "Fiddler" for my short list of Musicals For People Not Into Musicals? What an incredibly fun, moving, and universally accessible soundtrack!

Reeling off a few more:

The Sound of Music is the only Rodgers and Hammerstein musical that I can watch without fast-forwarding. Oklahoma, South Pacific, et al. had their bright spots, but they really dragged. But between Robert Wise's energetic direction and Julie's angelic voice and the incredible cinematography and the insanely elaborate puppet show in the middle, you'd have to strap a booster rocket to your ankle in order to KICK FUCKING ASS like The Sound of Music does. Who cares if it's corny?

I really enjoyed Cabaret, too, as an album and as a movie. I mostly enjoyed its sibling Chicago, too.

The '80s revival of Anything Goes with Patti LuPone was a revelation for me in high school. Granted, half the songs are totally forgettable Cole Porter ("Easy to Love" was famously turned down by several male singers when the show originally ran), and LuPone is the only one with a real set of pipes, but you've got, in one show, "I Get A Kick," "You're the Top," "It's De-Lovely," "Blow, Gabriel, Blow," and the title number.

Oh, wait, how can I forget Mary Poppins? Another totally immortal performance by Julie Andrews, and arresting songs by the Sherman brothers. (Bedknobs and Broomsticks wasn't nearly as good a movie, but its score, also by the Shermans, was excellent.)

On the other hand, Steven Sondheim's works are entertaining ONCE, but they leave me with zero interest in repeat viewings. All look-at-my-wit cleverness, no heart.

Rent, likewise, left me entertained and moved and unable to recall any of its melodies two days later.

Finally, I heartily endorse Xanadu, but only with the right crowd of a certain age and preferably with a bong.

This photograph is racist and opresses Muslims. Everyone knows dogs are haraam. I certainly know of no instance of anyone depicting Ariel Sharon as a pig, which is also haraam in Islaam.

It is obvious that this is only being done to mock and opress the people of the glorious Ummah. Why do you do this to us? We might as well ask why the Jews shoot and bomb children who are just playing with stones in the street? What harm do 12-year olds do? Were it not for the illegitimate Zionist Entity, they could grow up to experience Islamic justice.

When an Islamic State cuts off a hand or a foot; that is justice. When an Islamic father kills his daughter for being "raped" by her brother, that, sadly is justice and the sharmuta deserved it. But the Jews have to go and spoil it by killing children.

Cin: BOY..I hope Im wrong..PA..LEEZE let me be wrong. (not enough Black Neuosurgeons in Hospitals...Geeze)

Ya know it is getting OVER THE TOP with the newest AA of thinking. [get this]Minorities DO NOT CHOOSE certain Medical Specialities by themselves so we have to AA them in those Specialties...

I say: Want to be a Neurosurgeon? Want to actually CHOOSE Neuosurgery? Then pick the damn specialty your OWN damn self already...WE dont have to INTRODUCE that Speciality in Medicine..to YOUR particular group.

Yes CIN..WE think weve slowed AA down..WE think we may stop it..YOU think Middle Class Reb..Minorities arent FOR AA..WRONG...WRONG...Some are..but SOME..want AA to go on or they will institute the weasily..MEND IT --DONT END IT... In MEDICAL and LAW SCHOOL...

Please let YOU be right and ME be wrong...Im not just saying that..I honestly wish Im wrong..but ..from what Im hearin...I dont know...

#244 Aisha...

Oh ya? Well check out the Israeli Election Results video in post #236 if you really need something to fret about!

;-)

Oy gevalt*

I meant to ask, in a footnote: How does one convey the spirit of "Holy shit!" in Hebrew or Yiddish? Or do Jews have to borrow from Gentile languages when they need a colorful profanity?

I forgot,.., I liked Jesus Christ, Superstar when I was a teen. I saw a unintentionally hilarious production of JC Superstar earlier this year, a church production. The guy who played JC had a great voice, but was bald, chubby and too old for the part. (When it comes to playing Our Lord, you do need a certain look. Only young, skinny guys with hair need apply.) When they stripped him of his robe for the 39 lashes, he was wearing friggin' gym shorts underneath. At that point, I had to run to the ladies' room to laugh hysterically.

I think what might kill musicals for a lot of people are the countless bad high school productions they have to sit through because the kid, or the neighbor's kid, are in them,...,

Throbert, you big sexy hunk of non-mahram man flesh, [Link: www.insultmonger.com...] has a whole heap of Hebrew and Arabic swear words in translitteration, with their English translations. Some of them are colourful to say the least.

May the peace of Allah Ta'ala be upon you.

Another killer of musicals for me: CATS. I'd rather get my teeth drilled than sit through that damn thing ever again.

Same goes for a production of "Three Penny Opera" I saw in DC starring Sting. It became painfully evident that Sting can only sing Police songs. The theatre started emptying out soon and by intermission, half of the audience was gone, including me and my date. Truly godawful.

#64 Reaganite

I got a nice USSS golf shirt in Boston, unfortunately, it says "Democratic National Convention" on it. I really hate to throw it in my rag barrel. Anyone know an easy way to remove embroidered letters?

Well, by the time I've finished reading all the posts everybody has gone to bed, but I think that nice shirt of yours is just BEGGIN' for a little additional embroidering. Just get a nice bright red embroidered circle with the red diagonal line through it embroidered over the DNC logo. Not sure what that symbol is called, but it seems to be the international "don't even think about doin' whatever is within' this symbol" symbol.

Lakhn zol er mit yashtherkes. He should laugh with lizards

LOL

#241 & Throbert

I am one who also loves Paint Your Wagon. Saw it when I was a kid, and have watched it every time it's been on tv since. C'mon! Check your brain at the door, but... How can you not like it when a group of low-down scaliwag reprobates undermine the whole town (literally) to get the gold?!? The horrible songs were just an added bonus!

But then again, I also like Goldiggers Of 1933.
Ginger Rogers singing 'We're In The Money' in pig-latin during a Busby Berkly dance number really gets my freak on.

Long time lurker, first time poster.

(working on a case of Red Stripe since 8pm, does that count as drinking?)

Ginger Rogers singing 'We're In The Money' in pig-latin during a Busby Berkly dance number really gets my freak on.

OMG!

I've got the MP3, and yes, it's mind-blowing.

Yeaaa..So nice to see Im not the ONLY one who likes "Paint"...And now that its 2AM+ .."We're In Tha Money" is running thru my head. Plus the various songs from Paint Your Wagon... SWELL...LOLOLOL

Leah, sure sweetheart, I'm 23. Why do you ask?

Throbert:

Finally, I heartily endorse Xanadu, but only with the right crowd of a certain age and preferably with a bong.

Not a problem.

What the hell?!?

Has the drinking thread moved on and I didn't keep up with it?!?

All i knows is that i'm on central time, and it's a summertime Saturday night here, and things are just now starting!

C'mon people, Let's go!!!

gimme somma tha 'ol witty repartee...

tha 'ol back-'n-forth...

tha PEPPER!!!

or i'm going on out to the clubs

tha 'ol back-'n-forth...

tha PEPPER!!!

or i'm going on out to the clubs

But it's almost 4 a.m. here on the East Coast and I'm sweepy! Time for me to cuddle up with my teddy rat and go nite-nite...

#133 Brenda

Interestingly, the Brits banned suttee early in the 1800s. So much for the evils of colonialism.

Thanks for that reminder - another useful missile to use in my little war of attrition on the Christian anti-Semite site, where the resident idiotarians are likely to trot out familiar cliches about Israel being some kind of 'colonialism', etc.

I've learned so much on LGF - all being put to some use. Even the trolls provided useful practice.

Typical - arriving too late for the party.

That's the trouble with living on the side of the world where it's time to sleep just as the party is starting :-(

Everyone's gone to bed, now. I bet even that little dog has put on a frilly nightie and some rollers in its hair and is curled up, asleep, in a giant four-poster bed with carvings of bones, biscuits and squeaky-toys all over it.

Ah, the thread was fun while it lasted. As is this link: [Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...] which is very much non-OT for a drinking thread.

#262 Ben B

From the Telegraph article:

drinking half a bottle of wine a day can make your brain work better, especially if you are a woman.

Off to get a glass...

Cheers!

#260 RC neoJew

Another instance of the Brits being a good influence in India was how reformer William Sleeman worked to stamp out the criminal gang/cult of Thugees in the 1830s. Thugees preyed upon travellers in remote areas, particular those persons who appeared wealthy. Thugs (origin of the word!) would befriend the travellers and then strangle them when the victims were put at ease. Thousands were killed and robbed yearly until Sleeman cracked down.

The History Channel had a fascinating briefo series of programs about crime in various cultures, where I learned about the Thugee cult. Incidentally the thug practitioners of the murders thought that the goddess Kali blessed the killings, so it was a good thing for them.