Another prong, in Islamo-fascism's multi-pronged attack. Win, subjugate all others, whatever it takes!

Islamic civilization

Say what?

I don't know if any model except Turkey's can be made to work: freedom to create political parties at will of any ideology, with a relentlessly secularized military that is willing to step in when the people elect an Islamic government yet again. I don't even think the Turkish model is viable in the long run. But it's the only one that seems to work as far as bringing democracy to muslims goes.

Egypt. Let's see... they have pyramids and Muslims there, right?

Next.

“Islamic civilization is our reference,” he added. “How is that not new?”

It would be a nice change.

They are crawdads fighting in a bucket. Its fun to watch.

Seems like good news to me....?

Here's a good laugh.

""I'm Tom Brokaw..."
"I'm Dan Rather..."
"And I'm Peter Jennings, and we're..."
"...reporting for duty, Sen. Kerry!"

Posted by: McGehee at October 2, 2004 11:59

[Link: wizbangblog.com...]

Um, Islamic civilization is an old idea. It's been tried many times, and it's not civilized.

The Muslim Brotherhood is so dangerous that it is banned in Egypt, not a mainly Protestant nation. Recently a CIA analyst claimed that the Muslim Brotherhood is a moderate Muslim group we can work with. Reconcile.

Oh yeah, these are the same CIA analysts who thought funding the Islamists in Afghanistan would be a good way to fight the Soviets. I think there should be college courses on covert ops blow back.

OT now since it will prolly be the last thread of the night (and my last chance this weekend)

The SoCal LGF meet-up will be Sunday, October 17 @ 2pm. Any and all So Cal lizards who are interested in getting together should check out the survey at the LGFSoCal Yahoo Group to indicate preference of location.

As of now, it looks like Yankee Doodle's at the 3^rd Street Promenade is in the lead, 4 votes to 2 with Burger Continental in Pasadena coming in second. I've not yet voted.

Keep hitting the tip jar to see if we can lure our illustrious host from his lair.

#4 theheat

Egypt. Let's see... they have pyramids and Muslims there, right?

Yeah, and Muslims that murder tourists that visit the pyramids.

hey tharwat--how about a party based on worship of the god amun-ra with horus and isis as inspirational leaders or is that too jahilliya for you huh huh

I think that must be a typo for Thawrat. I've never heard of the Arabic name Tharwat.

There's jihad and then there's civil jihad, but only the time is right for jihad.

the only good thing you could say about nasser is that he hung sayid qutb

I hope Egypt's Judges have some Balls.

Yeah, and Muslims that murder tourists that visit the pyramids

Not to be confused with the ones that murder tourists looking at mummies AND pyramids.

What has this culture given to the world since the fall of Ramses?

Hello? Anyone?

Good morning from Israel, everyone. :-)

This is OT, but the Jerusalem Post is reporting that Israel will call for the resignation of UNRWA commissioner general Peter Hansen, after unmanned aerial surveillance caught Palestinian terrorists loading what looks like a Kassam rocket onto a UN ambulance.

www.jpost/com.servlet/Satellite?pagename=Jpost/JPA rticle/ShowFull&cid=1096611627649

Hansen's response is that the IDF is always picking on him.

#14 evariste,

Isn't Tawrat the Arabic name for the Torah?

Oh, and here's the correct (I hope) link to the JP article I mentioned above:

www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPA rticle/ShowFull&cid=1096611627649

Happy Sukkot to everyone, BTW. It's 7:30 AM here and it's already hot. Pretty soon the family will be waking up and filing in from the Sukka.

I really was expecting the latest report on the Cycle of Violence today. We were left alone to play for entirely too long.

OT
In case anyone missed it on the previous thread, which was petering out before I got photoshoppin':

#28 jonturner
I think that football should be photoshopped green.

Your wish is my command: An admittedly somewhat amateurish effort: Kerry and his own personal little green football. But I think I really matched the colors of Charles' logo pretty good.

OT
anyone see SNL tonight they ripped on kerry pretty good, then followed up with a swiftboats parody commercial it was real funny.

oh and drink em if you got em

OT yet again:

This is totally pathetic:
Bishop Tutu to act in an Off-Broadway anti-Guantanamo play.

Archbishop Desmond Tutu is to appear in a New York off-Broadway play highly critical of the US handling of detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

He will take part in two productions of "Guantanamo - honour-bound to defend freedom", over the weekend.

He will play Lord Justice Stein, a judge who questions the legal justification of the detention regime.

Once a leading campaigner against apartheid, Archbishop Tutu is a vocal critic of the Guantanamo system.

Now he is taking the unusual step of agreeing to take part in a play which portrays the plight of the British nationals being held without trial along with hundreds of others suspected of being linked with terror organisations including al-Qaeda.

After each performance, Archbishop Tutu will participate in a question and answer session with the audience.

The play, which has drawn warm reviews from New York critics, is a damning indictment of the Bush administration's policies.

(Keep in mind that Tutu is a famous anti-Semite from way back.)

SURPRISE! BBC, Guardian and AFP win War reporters' Prizes in FWANCE!

BBC, Guardian and AFP Journalists Win War Reporters' Prizes in France.

The Bayeaux-Calvados prize for war reporters, in its 11th edition, offers $9,425 to the winners. They are picked by a jury of international journalists.

al-Hayat

#19 merav

This is OT, but the Jerusalem Post is reporting that Israel will call for the resignation of UNRWA commissioner general Peter Hansen, after unmanned aerial surveillance caught Palestinian terrorists loading what looks like a Kassam rocket onto a UN ambulance.

Do you actually think that the UN will care?

Minority...sure...I believe that. These guys are coming right back out into the open...won't be long before we start seeing the stuff from '56 happening in the open again.

Going for a record number of OT postings in a row:

I was the first to post that the Italian hostages recently freed in Iraq were part of an elaborate hoax. A couple people believed me, but most were skeptical of my claims. Well, as the days roll on, it looks more and more that I was right:

Italians starting to get angry at released hostages, as suspicions grow

Italy split over hostages' views
By Irene Peroni
BBC News Online

After three weeks of complete silence followed by death claims on two separate Arabic web sites, few in Italy dared hope the two abducted aid workers would resurface from their captivity unharmed and smiling.

But nobody had predicted that after all the candlelit vigils, silent marches and displays of national unity before their release, the women would stir up such a political storm right after their return home.

On their first day of freedom, instead of thanking Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi for securing their release Simona Pari and Simona Torretta urged the government to withdraw its troops from Iraq.

There are reports that a $1m ransom was paid for their release, although the government has officially denied this.

From the very start, the former hostages said they wished to carry on their aid work in Baghdad and expressed gratitude to the Arab countries, Iraq's freedom fighters and the Muslim world for working towards their liberation.

They said they once had a knife held to their throat, and had lived in constant fear of being killed "until the moment we stepped on the airplane".

But despite their ordeal, they insisted their perception of Iraq as an occupied country struggling for freedom remained unchanged.

"Guerrilla warfare is legitimate, but I am against the kidnapping of civilians," Simona Torretta, who speaks Arabic and was already based in Iraq before Saddam Hussain was ousted, told Italian daily Corriere della Sera.

"You have to distinguish between terrorism and resistance - I said it before and I repeat it today," she added.

Ms Torretta went on to describe Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's administration as "a puppet government in the hands of the Americans".

'Fanaticism'

For more than 20 days, papers of all political colours portrayed the two volunteers as national examples of selflessness and compassion.

But after speaking their minds, the "daisies of peace", as they had been dubbed, became the object of fierce criticism by some politicians and part of the press.

They were described as cold, patronizing and "ungrateful" towards the government, and were rebuked for failing to mention the other victims of kidnapping.

The front page of the right-wing daily newspaper Libero carried the headline "The lies of the Simonas".

Giuliano Ferrara, editor of daily Il Foglio and long-time ally of Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, suggested the women should return the sum paid by the government for their release by collecting it from among Italy's "valiant pacifists".

The president of the north-eastern Veneto region, Giancarlo Galan, said he was "astonished and offended" by the "fanaticism" of the two.

Northern League MP Alessandro Ce meanwhile wondered how they were really feeling. "It is still unclear whether they were comfortable in captivity or were indeed happy to have been freed," he said.

...
The kaftans worn by the two women were a present from the abductors.

Charles, everyone:

This is OT, but I must give you this link to The Galvin Opinion. Thomas Galvin documents 21 (count'em) lies that John Kerry said during the debate of Thursday evening. This needs to be spread like widfire, guys, so I beg you please to go there.

Here it is.

Thank you.

zombie #28

I've been thinking along the same lines as you. Also I am remembering a report of Bigley, and how he was acting before the kidnapping. He had been warned of the potential and said he wasn't worried. He is reported to have been going around very openly and without concern of the danger.
It won't surprise me at all to find out the two women and Bigley are all faux victims. Why would the terrorists kill the two Americans so quickly but hold onto Bigley showing him off like a prized captured animal?
I think you take the two women to the bank as to being fronts helping the terrorists to collect more funds for weapons. Reminds me of the japanese who did the same thing earlier this year.

The National Weather Service has issued a warning for
yet another catastrophic hurricane following on the
heels of Charley, Frances, Ivan and Jeanne.

The path of this hurricane zigs and zags, and is therefore highly unpredictable.

Experts predict that this one will cause the most
damage to the United States that we have experienced
in four years.

They are naming this one Hurricane Kerry.

Be advised, the only way for citizens to protect
themselves is by being behind a Bush.

Does the Egyptian legislative body have more sense in their heads than Western organisations?

Perhaps they know the enemy better than the Politically Correctoids here.

Yes, Evariste, you got that right.

#3

I don't know if any model except Turkey's can be made to work: freedom to create political parties at will of any ideology, with a relentlessly secularized military that is willing to step in when the people elect an Islamic government yet again. I don't even think the Turkish model is viable in the long run. But it's the only one that seems to work as far as bringing democracy to muslims goes.

This model breaks down the moment Turkey enters the weak Politically Correct Socialist European Union.

That is why I am pissed every time when someone proposes Turkish membership.

#30 applesweet 

zombie #28
I've been thinking along the same lines as you. Also I am remembering a report of Bigley, and how he was acting before the kidnapping. He had been warned of the potential and said he wasn't worried. He is reported to have been going around very openly and without concern of the danger.
It won't surprise me at all to find out the two women and Bigley are all faux victims. Why would the terrorists kill the two Americans so quickly but hold onto Bigley showing him off like a prized captured animal?

I couldn't say about Bigley. He looks much more like a legitimate hostage to me. Though, of course, I could have my mind changed if any evidence turned up. Until then, I'll consider him an authentic victim.

I think you take the two women to the bank as to being fronts helping the terrorists to collect more funds for weapons. Reminds me of the japanese who did the same thing earlier this year.

Oh dear! You must have never seen my original posts on this topic:
my first post (and search for "zombie" on that page for subsequent comments). My second post (again search for "zombie" for additional comments).

Pay attention to this startling fact: The leader of the fake Japanese hostages was IN the house of one of the Italian hostages at the moment their released was announced. Here is a picture of her hugging Annamaria Torretta, mother of hostage Simona Torretta.

I regard this as a major international scandal, and no one seems to be talking about it but me. I can't figure out why.

The hoax worked.

OT - a Massachusetts paper is endorsing kerry.... anyone want to bet this story gets burried by the main stream press? Bueller?

Bigley is an Iraqi sympathizer, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that he set up the two Americans who were beheaded. Check out these two articles:

Pretty damning, wouldn't you say?

And another one.

In addition, some funny things have been cropping up on Islamic websites, that have turned out to be true, including the reports about the two Italian former hostages. These same sites have been claiming all along that deals are being struck for Bigley, and that he is free to roam about his 'kidnapper's ' home.

For one thing, the British appear to be
negotiating with the terrorists. The rumour is that Sheikh Omar Mahmoud Abou Omar (Abou Katada) who has been held in the Palmarsh prison in the UK for two years, will be released for Bigley.

Today, the Guardian had this to say.

let me try that again....

OT - a Massachusetts paper is endorsing GWB.... anyone want to bet this story gets burried by the main stream press? Bueller?

zombie

The two Simonas are recieving some blistering opinions from the Italian press, particularly for recent remarks they've made in suport of their "captors." (The link was on Freerepublic, which is scheduled to be down tonight.) One of the papers quoted was Il Foglio. There were some choice words, including statement to the effect of the $1M being "wasted" on them, etc.

I agree with you about the two of them. Rather than hostages, these two seem to have been willing participants in a scheme to defraud the Italian govenment and promote Islamicism and/or Baathism.

The far left is truly made up of the liars and the duped.

#34 zombie

There is another thing that may not mean much, but it raises a flag.
The four Italian hostages with Fabrizio Quattrocchi amongst them all knew "two Simonas" and vice-versa. Unfortunately, I've lost a track of an interesting post somewhere which indicated that these four passed through Simonas' office at some point before their kidnapping.

I'll look for it.

Did not find it, but something close to it from a href="[Link: www.italysoft.com...] target="_blank">Corriere della Sera

The first of these might seem a simple coincidence:all the Italians abducted in Iraq have had something to do with the humanitarian organisation “Un Ponte Per...” (A Bridge For...).
When Fabrizio Quattrocchi and the other three security guards working with him disappeared in April, the person who raised the alarm by contacting the coalition command was Valeria Castellani.

Thirty-year-old Castellani arrived in Baghdad in September 2003. For a month and a half, she worked for “Un Ponte Per... ,”then decided to go freelance. With her friend Paolo Simeone, who had previously worked for Intersos, another NGO, Castellani became active in security through groups and companies that offer among other things personal escorts and security guard services.Some of her clients were American and British.

Castellani and Simeone recruited first Fabrizio Quattrocchi, then the other three guards who fell into the hands of the “Green Brigades of Mohammed.” Journalist Enzo Baldoni, snatched on 20 August while he was returning from Najaf with a Red Cross convoy and killed six days later, knew the two Simonas well.According to Diario, the paper he wrote for, Baldoni gave his money to them for safekeeping before leaving with the humanitarian mission.He is also said to have met Ghareeb, the driver killed in the terrorist ambush, through the two women.

PIMF Corriere della Sera

Italian hostages....fake? Bigley......fake? The Japs...fake?

Why isn't this being jumped on by the US media????

Wait...I forgot. Sorry. US media.

Maybe the "intimidating" bloggers will have to bring it to the forefront...again.

# 37
Dang Botoxboy, glad you got it right. Here in New England to get a dhimmie endorsement is like falling off the wagon - not hard and certainly not news. This is. I for one wish I subscribed to a newspaper that didn't have its collective head up its ass. The Providence Journal (Rhode Islands answer to the NYT) is obviously dhimmie slanted and bashes the Republican Governor Carcieri every chance it gets.

I am canceling my subscription to this rag and will give the money to Bush to fight the scourge of New England (and the world) skerry. It is not much but, gotta do what a mans gotta do.

How about you all? You doing your part? Don't pontificate, don't bloviate, don't just hope for things to turn out ok - do something - take decisive action. This is something that the dhimmies are doing in droves. Their moonbat swarms are combing the country getting out the vote - don't matter if you are dead and cold they will get that vote too. They will stop at nothing and if skerry wins it will be due to illegal vote fraud - the likes of which this country has never seen and I pray to God never does again.

Slightly OT - Natalie Mains, the moonbat bitch of the Dixie Chimps (sic) is at it again. She says we need a "regime change" and is pulling out all the stops. She said that her group took a lot of flak the last time she opened her fat mouth and they paid for expressing their collective opinion. Get it right dimwit, your music sucks and you suck. Your twangy "music" is repulsive and you are too. I used to tolerate you and your ilk but, my tolerance has been bypassed and this is going straight to my defense system. I want to see your career affected but, that is highly unlikely. You espouse a philosophy (she wouldn't understand this) that is anethma to everything I hold dear. I love my babies and my darling wife and will do all I can to protect them and keep them safe and the most important thing is to keep the country I love safe. This means we
MUST ELECT GW BUSH to guide the defense of this great land. I don't want my family's safety subjugated to the EU or anybody else.

So Natalie and Bruce and REM and all the other dimbulbs pushing for "change" keep in mind that if we are attacked again, your appeasment attitude will be the cause of it - not the kick them in the balls way Bush wants to go. I am all for killing every one of those murdering scum and the faster the better. Pull out all the stops and kill em before they start killing us. These people don't want to hear about negotiating or "feelgood" policy - they only want to KILL everyone of us - including you dhimmie - you will die just as quickly as all of the rest of us - needless to say you will die wondering why they would kill people that are trying to help them.

Oh well Natalie, thems the breaks. Wake up and smell the coffee, my wife liked your "music" and has tried to get me to for years. Even she has grown tired of your bitching and leftist attitude. For that to happen you had to really piss somebody off. She loves country music (I don't know why) and she used to like yours - that has changed and as long as you espouse this crap will continue to do so. We cannot afford nor do we have a platform such as you to spread the word to the masses like you can from the stage so we have to do things the hard way - a little at a time.

OT

Moonbat goes on hunger strike to persuade Nader to drop out of election.

Ah, California!

#43 Bolivar

I hear ya on the ProJo, what a commie, liberal rag. My wife aggrivates me every Sunday by asking if i want to read the Prov. Sunday Journal. I read two or so headlines and the leftism reaches out and grabs you by the throat. No thanks...

The headline reads: Lawmakers Block Egyptian Islamic Party.

My dyslexia kicked in and I thought it said, "Islamic Egyptian Lawmakers Block Party"

Must be early...

Re: the hostage hoax

Captain Ed has been following the stories development with a couple of interesting pieces.

# 45 Sean II

I have not been able to read the paper on Sunday morning for months and it has been a chore to do so. I have not enjoyed it for a long time - if ever. I come from Michigan (that hotbed of LLLism) but my local county - Antrim was strongly Republican (as was my mother - dad was not political).

Living in liberal New England has been a real eye opener. They expect things handed to them on a silver platter around here and guess who pays for it? I do and you do too!!! In Rhode Island child care is a RIGHT and every child can get it and therefore the welfare rats (sorry I call them as I see them) come out of the woodwork. I almost feel sorry talking about these people this way but, dammit I really resent having to pay for them to pop out these little "love children". Get some rubbers, pull out, do something constructive folks! Popping out brats to go on the public dole is just wrong and I for one am tired of paying for other peoples pleasure. Let them pay themselves or they won't have it.

Now I don't advocate children starving but, to pay for play will never be right no matter how you slice it. This may be called "tough love" but, it is just common sense to me. We are so overloaded with welfare and illegals around here that I can only have the greatest of empathy for Kalifornia. They have it far worse than we do. Our "melting pot" is full of shit and it is high time we flushed it and got some clean water again. Nuff said?

OT: EU Fraud by parliment? Sack the internal auditor.

I have been reading the articles about my case and they all write about the suspension, but that is not the issue, the issue here is that "they don't want to change" and "the same people manage the funds", Ms Andreasen told the EUobserver.

I can only laugh out loud, but I live on a continent of sheep so the it doesn't disturb anyone.

#48 Bolivar

When my wife and I were in high school (East Providence) her next door neighbor was in junior high and had a baby. She dropped out and relied on welfare, as did her older sister, and when the baby grew to attend school at age six she had another and had no shame in telling my wife (Girlfriend at the time of course) that she did it so she could stay home and collect more welfare. You see, it was and is a common practice, due exactly to what you have stated about this nanny state. It is pathetic.

#51 Sean II

Same thing here. Welfare moms dropping their children off at daycare (government pays for it) so they can sit home and not have to deal with them. Included in that is the free lunch program, so they don't have to feed them either.

kids in the public schools get free lunch, and in many cases english lessons...while my child wasn't even being taught to read!

Single welfare mothers having more children and not getting married so that the government will help them buy a house.

I'm fed up with it. Got into an altercation with the last public school my daughter was in because I refused to fill out the free lunch form. They said I HAD to. I told them it's not the governments job to feed my child.

#52 Sarah D.

Welfare moms dropping their children off at daycare (government pays for it) so they can sit home and not have to deal with them.

It is not just them. If you work for a large company, they probably have the Child Care Tax Credit Program (not sure if that is the exact name). With this program, anybody, regardless of income, can take $5,000 TAX FREE out of their income to pay for child care. While not as bad as a outright grant, it is still a lot of taxpayer money being used to take care of kids. While intended for working mothers, the mother DOES NOT have to work to get this tax credit.

The only reason I know this exist is that, at my company, the sign up form is combined with the Tax Free Medical program which I used to pay medical bills when I had cancer.

Whoa! RI Lizards! Who knew?

By your presence here, I'm guessing you've figured this out, but just to be on the safe side: make sure you get the to the polls and vote yes on Question 1.

And tell your moonbat friends that it makes unions a branch of the government, k?

These welfare stories are terrible. I just had a little boy 8 weeks ago. My wife is going back to work next week and I already work.

Both of our mothers are going to take care of my little guy... no nanny, no daycare and for damn sure, no welfare.

It's a matter of self respect.

#53 [Engineer]

I've heard of that, but how does a mother who is not working get access to it?

Now I see these young female college students, who brag about the gov't paying for their housing, picking up the tab for daycare, full tuition paid....while I'm starving (well, not really....I haven't run out of money yet!) on a student load and can't sleep at night picturing compounded interest ticking, ticking, ticking.

Something is WRONG with this picture.

#55 AG in Houston

It's a matter of self respect.

I have been blind in one eye since I was 6 years old. The only major thing it has prevented me from doing was joining the military. A social worker that I met at a party wanted me to sign up for disability because of it. She totally didn't understand when I got in her face and told her where to stick that idea.

It's a matter of self respect.

#55 AG in Houston

It's called responsibility, something that the liberals would like taken out of the personal vocabulary. The only time the word responsibility should be used is: when the US is responsible for the worlds ills, when the US should be responsible for feeding the world, when the government is responsible for safeguarding every nematode and mold spore....while bearing the responsibility of feeding and educating the children of lazy, irresponsible parents.

I'm sooooo fed up with this welfare mindset!

#56 Sarah D.

e heard of that, but how does a mother who is not working get access to it?

Her husband would take it out of his income.

Engineer

Exactly.

My example might not be very good though, we are in no position to accept welfare as my wife and I are both professionals, if you get my drift.

But I would still rather work 16 hour days, 7 days a week sittin with a chicken in a bread pan pickin out dough, and not take anything from the government.

I guess the values one is brought up with makes for future life decisions.

#59 [Engineer]

Ah, yes. Sorry, I was thinking in terms of single mothers!

:-)

#60 AG in Houston

I guess the values one is brought up with makes for future life decisions.

You got that right. Besides, I like trashing the LLL, which I couldn't do if I was on the take along with them.

I have a theory which goes along with this mindset. Here in Dallas, and I understand it is nationwide, the number of people running red lights has exploded in the last ten years. I blame this on parents and the school system which have taught people that they don't have to obey the rules if they don't like them; that other people's rights don't count.

This is funny in that it is the socialists teaching these things which are tearing apart the idea that we are all in this nation together and need to look out for the other person's rights.

Amir Taheri in the WSJ this morning on Islamic "exibition killing":

In the Arabia of the seventh century, where Islam was born, seizing hostages was practiced by rival tribes, and "exhibition killing" was a weapon of psychological war. The Prophet codified those practices, ending freelance kidnappings and head-chopping. One principle of the new code was that Muslims could not be held hostage by Muslims. Nor could Muslims be subjected to "exhibition killing." Such methods were to be used solely against non-Muslims, and then only in the context of armed conflict.

***

A survey of Muslim views over the past weeks shows overwhelming, though not unanimous, condemnation of the Beslan massacre. But in all cases the reasons given for the condemnation are political rather than religious. Muslim commentators assert that Russia, having supported "the Palestinian cause," did not deserve such treatment.

Sheik Yussuf al-Qaradawi, a Sunni Muslim scholar based in Qatar, was among the first to condemn the Beslan massacre. At the same time, however, he insists that a similar attack on Israeli schools would be justified because Israeli schoolchildren, if not killed, could grow up to become soldiers. (Sheik Qaradawi also justifies the killing of unborn Israelis because, if born, they could become soldiers.)

What Would Mohammed Do?

Exactly what his followers are doing today...

ROPMA.

"exhibition killing," PIMF.

OT

Remember that AIPAC spying accusation? Well guess what!

Malmø, Sweden: Woman stabbed to death, husband had eyes removed, their two children were present

[Link: www.aftonbladet.se...]

Woman stabbed to death, husband had eyes removed outside of a restaurant in central Malmø, their two children, 8 and 10 years old, were present. It is unclear whether they saw their parents get stabbed. A window was smashed, and two masked men were seen fleeing the scene.

[Link: www.washtimes.com...]

There's a new word circulating around in the old Europe, "Eurabia." The neologism describes with grim humor what some Europeans regard as the growing Islamic influence in countries like Sweden thanks to immigration and the high birthrate of the immigrant population.

There is no better answer than a look at Sweden today, a country slightly smaller than California with a population of some 9 million. Sweden has the second-largest percentage Muslim population in Western Europe. France has the highest Muslim population percentage — 7 percent.

Sweden today is a major center of Europe's anti-Semitism and especially the city of Malmo, commercial center of southern Sweden with 265,000 residents. An estimated 18,000 Jews live in all Sweden, 1,200 in Malmo. And into Malmo's Islamist enclave the police, it is reported, rarely dare enter.

[Link: w1.sydsvenskan.se...]

A list of stabbings in Malmø during the past 3 months.

I am appalled at the apathy this society is developing for rules. They exist to make things work smoothly and prevent harm, degradation of services and generally make the country a better place to live.

But NOOOOOOOOOO!!! all the liberals have to do is ignore the rules they don't approve of or key the paint of cars with stickers they don't approve of or just generally act like the assholes they deep down are.

I can only hope and pray that Bush takes some of these things to heart in the second term (yes there will be one) and really reforms things from top to bottom. There are too damn many libs around to do the job right however. We need to pitch the tax code. The APT is a good alternative and is relatively painless to the average taxpayer.
Review it here
APT Tax - Automated Payment Tax

The next thing is to reform - really reform welfare. I have no problem with helping people that REALLY need it but, the situation is still so fraught with corruption and waste that we are pissing in the wind against the firestorm. If you want help you have to earn it - really earn it. I have no problem with people picking up trash, cleaning streets, building parks and so forth to earn it. These things are currently done by grossly overpaid UNION members for the most part and this is a real waste IMHO. Cut off for popping out kids - feed em and give em care but no more. It is sad we have to go to these lengths but, it is out of hand and the illegals coming here and popping little bastards and then getting to stay because of it is wrong and MUST not be allowed.

I could go on for hours and use up Charles bandwidth but there are a lot of people that read this blog that agree with me and I really think there are a lot all over the country. Don't get me wrong folks, I am not a mean-hearted bastard. I am an old softie and I love kids and Mom and apple pie but, I am just sick and tired of paying for illegitimate kids who only are a burden on society. A little HONEST work never hurt anybody and it will enrich them in ways they cannot imagine. And as Lily Tomlins character would say "and that's the truth! pfffffttttt".

Palestinians: "The Israelis stole my land and my country, now they are even stealing our recipes,"

OT :

The AFP headlines this morning India's revolt-hit northeast reels after 53 killed in attacks make it sound like this latest attack is entirely by a communist group with no Islamist ties.

Now I have no way of knowing whether that's true or not, I do trust AFP to hide any Islamist ties, so I've spent a few seconds doing a Google search.

http://www.flonnet.com/fl2101/stories/200401160049 01000.htm, for instance is a story saying that the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) are training at "camps run by Islamist groups such as the Harkat-ul-Jihad Islami".

And http://www.indiareacts.com/archivedebates/nat2.asp ?recno=953&ctg=Defence is another article showing a link.

And http://www.mail-archive.com/assam@pikespeak.uccs.e du/msg07948.html is an interesting rant by some sort of religious Hindu fighter who says that Islamists are fighting for "Islamisation of South-East Asia".

If he's right, this isn't a war against the west at all, it's a two front war against the entire world...

That could be important

Oil(via glenn reynolds)

A quote from the rant:

The intelligence of Hindutva force of India
can see what is coming to them: the staggering force
of Pan-Islamism trying to take the last barrier to its
entry into Burma/Thailand. Assam is like a Afghanistan
for South-East Asia. Here, if Islam win, the next in
line is Burma and Thailand, where infidels Buddhist
(as AlQueda of Malaysian describes) are halting the
complete Islamisation of South-East Asia. Or for South
Asian Islamist, the fall of Assam will make the entire
encircling of India, complete. Think about an India
without Assam! Towards the Western border, is the
Pakistan, with 150 million Islamic Jihadis. Towards
its eastern border is the B'desh (with Assam as its
new entry), with 170 million of Islamic Jihadis! Thus,
in the titanic clash of HIndutva and Islam, if
Hindutva lose in Assam, then Hindutva loses everywehre
in India. And, in this clash, if Hindtuva win, and can
regenerate the old fighting spirit of Assamese
warrior, we can replicate what Lachit and Chilaray did
to Bengal's Nabab: continous attack of Islamic world
of Bengal. Rising of Togadia brand of Army in Assam is
the return of the warrior spirit of Assamese. But we
are not that stupid secular warrrior of Marxist ULFAs,
or cowardice AASU, who without the depth of spiritual
energy can do nothing in this new world. My dear
friend, it is the religion, stupid! The famous Bill
Clinton campaign, you remember? He said: it is the
economy, stupid! And, in South Asia today, it is the
religion, stupid! And, the return of the religious
passion is going to see some of the most violenct
events that history has encountered: the return of
violent Hindutva against an equally violent Islam.

UK Mosque linked with Beslan slaughter

68/bolivar

we are pissing in the wind against the firestorm

Nominated for "best mixed metaphor of the day".

Islamic civilization

As Gandhi would say: It would be a good idea.

#54

As it is I my brother in law is a union leader for the local steel workers. He try's to drag me into political discussion but I won't bite because he is a Michael Moore fan and has no real knowledge of politics, only the rhetoric he gleans from Moore and his ilk. The funny thing is before he became a union rep he definitely leaned right, now he just tow's the party line because of his union affiliation.

#73 Dave Ray

But Dave. . .

Wasn't the Beslan atrocity all about heroic Chechens, fighting for national independence?

/Sarc.

talkinkamel:

that's what I was led to believe as well....does this mean......that.....the liberal press were......well.....LYING?

/barely hidden contempt for the BBC etc

#76 Sean II

but I won't bite because he is a Michael Moore fan

It could be worse.

Yup Engineer it could be worse. My Dad was in the National Maritime Union out of Ludington Michigan and worked on the C&O carferries there. He made a decent living and Mom didn't have to work. The Union however did very little for the members other than take their dues and excoriate them if they didn't tow the AFL/CIO line - that is do what the union says and don't complain and vote for Democrats because they are our "friends". The NMU was not firecely partisan as many are now (this was in the late 50's and thru early 70's) but it was still there. My Dad many times told me he wished the union would leave him alone - he was cowed and I totally resent it.

I hate partisanship in the workplace. If my boss told me who to vote for I would them to fuck themselves and then would have to look for another job. Fortunately for me that is not the case but, I have to watch it around work. They have those damn diversity rules and we might offend somebody if we spout politics or anything else worth talking about.

Oh well that is my cross to bear.

Sean II send me an email and perhaps we could get a RI nay even New England gathering of LGF fans together. Could be fun and we might get more than we expect ???

#69 Norwegian kafir
Sometimes real life is so strange that even the Onion would not write it for lack of believability. From your article in the Washington Times:

SAN VITO LO CAPO, Italy — An international couscous festival billed as a bridge-building event among "cooks for peace" degenerated into recriminations when Palestinian chefs accused their Israeli counterparts of using chicanery to obtain a prestigious prize.

"The Israelis stole my land and my country, now they are even stealing our recipes," Palestinian delegate Mohammed Kebal complained to reporters. "The hand of [the Israeli intelligence agency] Mossad is at work here. We will never take part in the contest again."

I had to read the first paragraph twice after the Mossad quote, and I still can't believe it. I know it's not April 1st unless I've been in a coma.

Regarding fake hostages, there are suspicions about the second Canadian hostage as well. And regarding Bigley, anytime someone like Arafat is involved, it becomes highly suspicious.

#66 Maine's Michael
Why doesn't the judeophobic David Szady just come out and make his charges publicly, instead of hiding behind anonymous leaks to the press? And his doing this just a few weeks before the presidential election, instead of waiting until he had some actual evidence, suggests that his agenda includes trying to get Bush out of office.
There may be some slight similarities between Szadygate and Rathergate-- a rush to smear Bush, weeks before the election, without any evidence (in CBS's case, using forged evidence; in Szady's case telling the press of evidence that really doesn't exist).

Maine's Michael and EE, see this too.

A U.S. congressman wants the Bush administration to probe the man investigating the premier pro-Israel lobby.

Rep. Robert Wexler (D-Fla.) asked President Bush on Wednesday to investigate David Szady. The FBI's assistant director for counterintelligence, Szady is leading the investigation of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and has led government agencies involved in targeting Jewish employees for probes in the past, according to a JTA investigation.

"Given the fact that no information has surfaced to substantiate the highly incriminating accusations against AIPAC, I am perplexed by the manner in which you and your administration have handled this case," Wexler said in a letter to the president. "As such, I urge you to take immediate action to ameliorate the unconscionable circumstances surrounding the investigation of AIPAC including _ but not limited to _ ending egregious press leaks from the administration and providing Congress with further information about this case."

Wexler said Bush should determine whether Szady has unfairly targeted Jews, and if so, remove him from the case and fire him.

A small suggestion to LGFrs

I'm not that content that we have adopted muslim nomenclature to describing ourselves. It is a tacit admission of accepting a dhimmi status even in a tangential way.

I think it would be appropriate that references to dar al harb, non-muslim world, kaffir world etc, be replaced by the more correct 'civilised world'.

I see no reason why we should adopt muslim terms, many of these are derogatory, to describe ourselves, despite the irony in their usage.