Hey, why not just declare victory now, while they're at it?

OT - VERY funny anti-Kerry ad here.

What if Dubya locks the doors at the White HOuse?

Naming the national security team he wants before the Nov2 would insure Bush election.

OT but wow

El Rushbo read this entire Wash Post ad, taken out at the sole expense ($104k) of the author, on his show today. It says it all.

[Link: www.whatiam.net...]

Powerful and poignant.

#4 BingoBunny

No, he's going to declare victory on election night and then name his national "security" team.

This is absolutely incredible. I mean, incredible to:

1) Have this treasonous plan in place;
2) Announce it.

WTF has happened to this country?!

Gore had more credibility then than Kerry does now.

Why NOT just do it? It's not like Kerry has any scruples to offend, and he'll probably prevent a wave of suicides occuring among liberals if he isn't elected.

I guess he thinks that gun control laws have stripped us bare, eh? Let's just see how many people take it sitting down when he tries to take the White House after blatantly losing.

A centrist Democrat has turned on Kerry for trying to turn the U.S. electoral system "into a Banana Republic"

Read Stephen Green at VodkaPundit

It sounds like sKerry is threatening to overthrow our government if the election results do not suit him.

Let's get ready to rumblllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, Civil War Part Deux coming to a city/state/county near you.

Gore Part Deux, but WORSE

The worst part is, I'm beginning to think he is going to win. I am deeply disturbed and frightened to think about a world where John F'n Kerry is the most powerful man.

Johnny Cash tribute to George W Bush
When The Man Comes Around

via Tim Blair
[Link: timblair.spleenville.com...]

#9 Lady Redhawk

That's exactly what he's planning.

Fuck the Constitution, fuck basic fairness and decency. I wanna be President.

Gore prematurely conceded the 2000 race to George W. Bush (search), then had to retract his concession after aides said Florida wasn't lost. He never declared victory, an omission Kerry's advisers — many of whom worked for Gore — now believe created a sense of inevitability in voters' minds about Bush's presidency.

I thought that reality mattered more than what the candidates may say after the polls close...

#10

In the blue corner we have....

And in the red corner we have...

This is outrageous. I agree with #9 Lady Redhawk. sKerry is preparing a coup. I hope the Republicans will keep their cool under this assault and the American public will understand what's going on and elect Bush in a landslide.

#3

Well, the Clintons DID take all the furniture when they moved...

And the W keys in the white house computers (although I just couldn't help but laugh at that one).

I was told that Ford's people littered AF One with peanuts for Carter...

Yeesh, maybe he should just go ahead and hire Bagdad Bob as his spokesliar. What a jerk.

#15 Ann

Gore the asshole conceded! The asshole conceded!! The asshole conceded!!!

His concession wasn't "premature". What was premature was the news channels calling Florida for Gore before the polls had even closed there.

When Thom brought this up on the other thread I thought my head would explode. (Last election my friends were calling me daily with recommendations for new and better cardiologists, and offering me rides to the hospital.)

Forget both candidates and their myriad of lawyers - what the hell is this election going to do to the people of this country?

I was so looking forward to November 3 when I could again start talking to my friends and family who are voting for Kerry. I miss them so.

[SIGH.]

#12

the problem with Kerry is he won't be the most powerful man. he may not make top 10..and the USA will suffer for decades to overcome his abuse just as we did to over come Carter.

#20

Gore probably has done something else prematurely...

This is crazy.

Gore prematurely conceded the 2000 race to George W. Bush (search), then had to retract his concession after aides said Florida wasn't lost. He never declared victory, an omission Kerry's advisers — many of whom worked for Gore — now believe created a sense of inevitability in voters' minds about Bush's presidency.

The voter's mind? How did public opinion matter after election day? Gore lost because he conceded (before he didn't concede) and Bush won because he acted like he won and started planning his transition? Horse-hockey. They didn't win or lose based on any public image they presented.

Amid the tumult of the 2000 recount, Bush sought to make his presidency appear as a matter of time by leaking word of his national security team and bringing news cameras into his transition meetings.

Yeah, he was just doing that to APPEAR like the winner. He wasn't being practical or anything. So nice the way they can assign a motivation to any action to make the most benign action good or bad.

This is nothing less than a declaration by the Democrat Party that on November 3, 2004 they are are going to begin an asymmetrical civil war (lawsuits instead of bullets).
He would nuance it but that's what it is. John Kerry will not be denied his birthright.

Well, at least we finally found out what that plan John is always talking about is:

-Iraq: Declare victory, no matter what happens
-The economy: Ditto
-Social Security: Ditto
-North Korea: Ditto
-Iran: Ditto
-Syria: Ditto
-The 2004 election: Ditto

It does have the advantage of being universally applicable.............

#13 jd

great multi media spot. see the thread Charles ran on Monday the 18th at 6:37pm. Lot's of feedback.

Why not skip the middlemen and expense, and just have the courts decide who will be President in 2008?

Slightly OT: The Boston Herald is coming out for Bush/Cheney:

"Bush and Cheney Merit Four More Years"
by the Editorial Staff of the Boston Herald

"We started this new millennium celebrating the heroism of the ``Greatest Generation,'' remember? The ideal of America as the world's liberator, its selfless men and women leaving homes and families to fight for freedom on distant shores still a point of pride but a remnant of history. America's wars were being fought on the front lines of a global economy. Technology meant the world was growing smaller. America's place in the world? Smaller still.

"The attacks of Sept. 11 changed all that, but they didn't change the character of this country. Rather, that day we were reminded of who we are and what our nation must be in the world.

"And a president narrowly elected on a platform of reinvigorating a smaller yet compassionate government, averse to ``nation-building,'' immediately adapted to this fundamental re-ordering of priorities. And George W. Bush has never looked back.

"Nor can we as a nation. While we prospered at home in the last decade of the 20th century, we too often ignored and even emboldened enemies abroad. Never again.

"Because we responded to the horror of Sept. 11 with resolve not remorse, with courage not timidity, we have no doubt that history will record this era as the dawning of a new ``greatest'' generation of Americans - led by a good man who became a remarkable president.

"With all of that in mind, the Boston Herald proudly endorses George W. Bush and Dick Cheney for re-election.

"And while we are in the unusual position of doing so in the face of the candidacy of a native son, our choice was not a close call...."

There's more...read it all.

[Link: news.bostonherald.com...]

#20 Thom

His concession wasn't "premature". What was premature was the news channels calling Florida for Gore before the polls had even closed there.

Exactly! This is ridiculous.

#28 clarice

A duel would involve fewer people.

Lets start a pool: WHat time will Kerry say Bush conceded?

I say 9:32 PM EST.

I think Kerry's strategy is to claim victory before all the illegal votes come out.

If it isn't close they can't cheat.

As we come down to the wire, the best way to express our convictions is to close the browser, turn off the computer, put on our walking shoes, and GET OUT THE VOTE.

If you want to elect Bush, volunteer for the final 72 hours campaign. (Which actually starts the minute you volunteer, and continues till the end of the election; if you are a lawyer and can help with post-election disputes, we need you after the election also.)

Your help is needed even if you are not in a swing state. The campaign will pay for you to go to swing states during the last crucial 3 days and encourage registered voters to get to the polls. If you can't leave town, you can staff phone banks.

Bush by 300 plus electoral votes.. and the MSM running arround telling us who kerry will have in his cabinet when the court cases are settled in a few years.. i would laught my self silly..

Typical Commie. Declare victory, fake the result, then shoot whoever disagrees.

These are interesting times.

The good thing is he is trying it BEFORE he has had the chance to disarm America. I agree with the Civil War comment (which alludes to Bush's Dred Scott, he's not as dumb as they think). WE are on the brink. If Bush wins and we have lawyers contesting a win all over the place a civil uprising might just be in order.

Le coup d'etat a la Kerry? In that case it's going to be
time to bring back le guillotine pour tu, Monseur Kerry.

#33 Yehudit

Even if it isn't close, they are going to try to cheat. They are already to claim disenfranchisement.

Interesting at what % points will sKerry concede? If it's 5 or 10 do they still plan to do their actions? If so, than they have a problem.

#38

all ready PIMF

I voted already. It was easy. I recommend it.

Six so-called "SWAT teams" of lawyers and political operatives will be situated around the country with fueled-up jets awaiting Kerry's orders to speed to a battleground state. The teams have been told to be ready to fly on the evening of the election to begin mounting legal and political fights. No team will be more than an hour from a battleground.

Oh for Pete's Sake.

He is such a schmuck! I think he will lose big and it will not matter in the long run except to make him look bad and that it a good thing.

Fritz's Thoughts

#39...

No... that's the interesting part... their action is not based on stats or facts... it is based on alleged voter fraud, etc. regardless of the actual results.

This is a whole new tack (excuse the windsurfing pun) they are taking from what Gore did.

#16 cdbdbcme

Red Corner.
Blue Corner.

#27 docDoblU

Thanks Charles post so often I sometimes miss things.

[Link: varifrank.com...]

This 'picture' shows two things:

1) One is a hollow vegetable that is going to be carved up around the end of October and forgotten on the side of the road by mid November.

2) The other is a Pumpkin.

LOL

This scares me more than a dirty bomb attack. A dirty bomb cannot take away our republic. The easiest solution is a clear decisive victory -- one that the 'me generation' can understand. That would also force the dems to run on a centrist platform next time, too.

By the way, Nixon actually beat Kennedy in 1960. He knew it was the corrupt machine in Chicago which threw Illinois, which threw the entire nation. But Nixon let Kennedy win for the good of the country rather than force a devisive and ugly recount. That is what I call a patriot.

I hope the Supreme Court discusses this ahead of time and has a plan.

OT - Is the UN Worth Dying For?

From yesterday's WaPo (link requires registration). Maybe somebody already posted about this. It's the lead topic on today's Best of the Web Today, and the money quote is:

Kerry's belief in working with allies runs so deep that he has maintained that the loss of American life can be better justified if it occurs in the course of a mission with international support. In 1994, discussing the possibility of U.S. troops being killed in Bosnia, he said, "If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no."

Shit, where do I get my UN flag?

#42 Ann

Oh for OUR sakes! This is what is planned!

"Right now, we have 10,000 lawyers out in the battleground states on Election Day, and that number is growing by the day," said Michael Whouley, a Kerry confidant who is running election operations at the Democratic National Committee.

45 Right Wing Conspirator

I noticed that also at most events shown on TV but today MSM co-conspirator network CNN had a picture of sKerry with some flags on their hompage. I guess they've finally realized the picture they have really been showing the American public.

#45 RWC

The pictures are a great description of the two corners.

#45 red corner blue corner is great.

Lincoln fought to preserve the Union & end slavery while Kerry's out to hijack it & impose djimmitude & totalitarianism.

Call me Madame Defarge--I'm sharpening my knitting needles & taking names for the coming revolution.

#44 lewisge

Actually, it was a cowboy term before it was a windsurfing term.

I wonder what Kerry's strategy is if the election is NOT in doubt i.e. Dubya winning in a crushing landslide. I predict carping about "stealing the election" even if that's the case.
Besides, national security team? What does he mean by that? Did he watch Team America: World Police and decided he needed one of those? That would be cool if that's the case. One can only hope ;).

Eric Holder said on Fox News Sunday:

"If every vote is allowed to be cast, and if every vote is counted, John Kerry will be president within a day of that election."

Who can spot the double meaning?

Is this hubris, stupidity, or both

#16 cdbdbcme

Red Corner.
Blue Corner.

OT

My (MD) Lieutenant governor, Michael Steele just went up against Rev. Al Sharpton on John Gibson's show on Fox, regarding the fact that polls show that the African-American support of President Bush has doubled in recent days. Doubled!

Al Sharpton's only defense - it's only doubled? It's still low. Ha!

Check Lt. Gov. Steele's page out. We are so lucky to have him, and Gov. Ehrlich, in office. After the snake (a Dem.) that was in office previously - well, there is just no comparison.

42 Ann

Just heard this on Fox also. Unbelievable. Well I was going to vote early but I think I'm gonna wait until election day. My precinct by stats shows the DEMS have a little bit more registerd but Ind almost have as much as both the other two.

My plan, pull out a old BDU shirt, bring VIDEO camera. Find a lawyer type and politely ask him who he/she is there for, than tell him/her that thay are a POS.

John Kerry vs. John Kerry on Legal Reform

#50 cdbdbcme
From your quote:

"Right now, we have 10,000 lawyers out in the battleground states on Election Day, and that number is growing by the day,"

Good. Maybe they won't have time to vote.

Because the race is so close, both sides have similar plans in places.

Both sides have a team of lawyers.

Both sides have accused the other of registration tampering.

....Kerry will be quick to declare victory on election night and begin defending it.

But, will it meet a global test? Such a nuisance.

Ummmmm, what the heck just happened there ?!?!?!

I meant to post a thank you to #51 #52 #53.

(running late.....see you all later)

#59 Catttt

Another Marylander. Welcome!

Steele demolished Sharpton. The Rev actually had the nerve to proclaim that Kerry was going to win with 90% of the vote.

And this idiot racist was a presidential candidate?!

So Kerry's going to mimic what Bush did in 2000, but now that's treason and tantamount to inciting civil war? Gets a little thick in here sometimes, doesn't it?

Kerry will be smart enough not to concede then unconcede. He will declare victory even if he loses and fight it through the courts.

As if the BC04 wouldn't do exactly the same thing. If you think any different, you're fooling yourself. The stakes are the same on both sides: HIGH. Just don't go to sleep tonight thinking that the Democrats are any different than the Republicans when it comes to this election. You people who are living in a world where the Republicans are lilly white and just there to be taken advantage of by rapacious Democrats need to wake up and join us in reality.

#49 Ward Cleaver

Kerry's belief in working with allies runs so deep that he has maintained that the loss of American life can be better justified if it occurs in the course of a mission with international support.

The reporter tries to soften the blow of Kerry's statement. Kerry did not say "can be better justified." He said using American troops without UN backing is "unequivocally" unjustified.

66 Thom

And this idiot racist was a presidential candidate?!

No, that idiot recist was a fake candidate. He was only up there because the real candidates did not have the courage to deny him the stage as he deserved.

If you weren't a troll, I would take the time to prove how wrong you are.

#63 hs

But only one side is prepared to grab power before the electoral college has voted. Only one side is laying the groundwork for lawsuits by telling their voters to whine about voter suppression even if there is none. And on and on and on.

The Republicans would be insane not to have lawyers ready to fight against this un-American, illegal dhimmicrat bullshit.

#67 joe_surfs35

What Bush did in 2000 was win.

joe_surf must be taking the same meds as Gore.

#67 joe_surfs35

Bush rightly claimed victory after Gore conceded.

Dumbass.

I think I hate these people. I really do. They are going to do everything they can to steal this election, and I am frightened.

OT, here's some interesting words from Ter-ay-zuh:

PITTSBURGH, Oct. 20 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Teresa Heinz Kerry released the following statement today:

"I had forgotten that Mrs. Bush had worked as a school teacher and librarian, and there couldn't be a more important job than teaching our children. As someone who has been both a full time mom and full time in workforce, I know we all have valuable experiences that shape who we are. I appreciate and honor Mrs. Bush's service to the country as First Lady, and am sincerely sorry I had not remembered her important work in the past."

She had FORGOTTEN? Even if she didn't know what the hell Laura Bush did, why would she issue a statement that illuminates her stupidity?

Here's a linkTer-ay-zuh on Laura

Thank you for posting this, Charles.

#17 Peter

It's not going to be a coup per se, but a legal blitz attempting two things:
Pre empt any actions against the fraudulent voting. (just because you're dead, doesn't mean your opinion shouldn't matter) and
Find out which rules need changing how so that anything close can be shoved firmly into the blue.

For some reason, they've gotten it into their heads that perception after the fact means more votes. This leads me to think that one of two things is in effect with the Kerry team. 1) they're the silliest bunch of sods of which I've ever heard, or 2) there's something entirely other behind this. No one could really be that stupid. Votes in are votes in, a changing tide of popular opinion might bring calls for another vote, but it won't happen.

But then my anti-conspiracy-theory cells kick in and I wonder...

maybe they really are that stupid.
I saw another write-up on pajamapundits

#71 Luigi

Exactly. These dhimmicrats are spineless turds.

#56 Sentinel Talos:

I wonder what Kerry's strategy is if the election is NOT in doubt

If they can't find any excuse to contest the election - and I'm sure they'll find something, even if it is a landslide - they will revert to the usual leftist line; the media manipulated the public into accepting the status quo, the American people are dumb sheeple, the growing disenfranchised underclass didn't vote because both candidates represent the rich, etc.

The socialist (crypto-fascist) left only believes in democracy as long as it suits their purposes. When public opinion starts to turn against them they turn to judicial means, street violence, media manipulation, alternative structures like the UN and EU, etc.

John Kerry is a clown.

Dude, the NY Times conceded that Bush won in the recounts after the election.

THE NEW YORK FUCKING TIMES

Mike Moore forgot to mention that in his piece of cinematic diarreah.

We're watching the Democratic party showing it's true agenda: power. It's not about America and what they think is best for it. It's about prying their cold dead fingers of the levers of our country. They think it's their right to govern. How about coming up with better ideas than the Republicans and winning by the rules? You used to know how to do that.

#73. Which came first. It doesn't matter anymore. Given what happened in 2000, the questionable state of the US viting system and the very tight nature of this race, both sides would prepare for the worst in case it happens.

Man, these people are completely mad! They want to destroy our Republic from within.

Not sure if this was posted here before .

Perhaps the article below has something to do with this link (humor) . ..
Note: you may need to click on the link more than once. (not compatible with netscape browsers)

[Link: www.wc3sear.ch...]

Here is a link to the current article on Diebold's e-voting earnings struggles

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

#86 SouthAmericanWay

All while claiming THEY are the VICTIMS.

WASHINGTON —Sen. John Kerry has a simple strategy if the presidential race is in doubt on Nov. 3, the day after the election: Do not repeat Al Gore’s mistakes.

How can he repeat Gore's mistakes when he's already far surpassed them?

Unlike the former vice president, who lost a recount fight and the 2000 election, Kerry will be quick to declare victory on election night and begin defending it.

Translation: He'll declare victory, no matter the result, then call anyone who says differently a liar and a thief. And, should the USSC call it in Bush's favor, call them biased and accuse them of "appointing" Bush a second time.

He also will be prepared to name a national security team before knowing whether he’s secured the presidency.

Great way to ruin the political careers of others: Name them to positions of power, only to have them be humiliated when they find out that the guy doing the naming lost the election.

"Right now, we have 10,000 lawyers out in the battleground states on Election Day...

That's a lot of lawyers. Sounds like the herd needs thinnin'.

I wonder--is that their plan for an aggressive North Korea, Syria, or China? Send in the lawyers? I mean, I'd be okay with that, as long as the second sortie flown carries real bombs.

Six so-called "SWAT teams" of lawyers and political operatives....

Okay, now I'm laughing my a** off. It does, however, have merit as the basis of a video game.

#85 hs

the very tight nature of this race

In yours and the MSM's dreams its a close race.

#85 hs

Yeah. And who's laying the groundwork for the worst to happen?

Stop trying to draw some sort of moral equivalency between the dhimmis and the Republicans. Such an equivalency simply does not exist.

Typical, one thing the LLLs learned long ago was how to manipulate something with an activist judge. They have no scruples so we can never expect anything less than moonbatyness out of them!

#63 hs:

That's BS. Same thing as equating the Swift Boat Vets with MoveOn.org etc. The Democrats are the ones promoting and exploiting the lie that Bush stole the 2000 election, deliberately sowing doubts about the basic fairness of the electoral system, tearing down American democracy in the process. In the words of Eric Holder: "If every vote is allowed to be cast, and if every vote is counted, John Kerry will be president within a day of that election." We might as well just call of the whole election and crown Kerry, if that's the measure of fairness, but that's the premise on which the Dems operate. You don't hear this kind of BS from Republicans.

#77
Her Majesty probably received a hasty call from an NEA political commissar:

"We know that Laura is a Repug and therefore a subversive and a class enemy while she worked as a teacher and librarian, but we can't very well deny that it was a REAL JOB!"

#89. For Christ's sake.

If the election is contested, both sides will start their search -- Kerry for his entire team and Bush for replacements if needed. Considering the short amount of time between election and swearing in, it's the smart thing for anybody in that position.

While Bush did not name his cabinet during the Florida voting controversy, he did look and start talking to people.

John "Global Test" Kerry seems to have learned something from most of the other governments represented at the UN. They take power by means of a coup. And the UN has always been Kerry's ideal in many ways.

If Kerry takes physical possession of the Oval Office during a moment when Pres. Bush is not in it, and announces appropriate appointments to head the CIA and the FBI and National Security Agency, he will in effect dare anybody to remove him after he proclaims himself president.

We will be much more global with Kerry's coup.

Re Mrs. Laura Bush and employment:

My late mother was a librarian and a teacher, and also a mother and wife. She worked, Mrs. Heinz-Kerry - she definitely worked - none of those occupations are 9 - 5 Mon - Fri, I assure you.

If Bush has a 10 vote or more EC lead and a 3%+ popular vote lead, John Kerry will look like a delusional street person not to concede. All you disaffected Democrats (or former Democrats) will be getting a lot more company if he does something that stupid

#98

Um, coups usually involve elements of the armed forces or state security apparatus. You worried about the National Park Service or something?

For some reason, they've gotten it into their heads that perception after the fact means more votes.

Those of you who are discussing this fail to miss the point, I think. No, public opinion will have little effect on the courts and legal processes which are sure to follow but they will have one effect: Create the impression (yet again) this this is yet another illegitimate presidency and possibly set the stage for an impeachment move in the next congress. Assuming the Republicans will retain control of the House one can assume that yet again virtually everything will be stuck in committee and fillibuster on the grounds that the legislative proposals of an illegitimate administration are themselves illegitimate. Expect moves to defund Iraq and the occupation, etc....

Should I scare up my link to all of my various posts on this subject? Is it worth it, or even necessary?

It seems to me that whenever I feel that the "left" has hit bottom, it find a new means of descending deeper into the abyss.

HA NC STILL A REP STRONGHOLD.

WRAL Poll: Bush Maintains Lead In N.C.
With less than two weeks to go until Election Day, nationwide polls show President George W. Bush and Sen. John Kerry in a dead heat. However in North Carolina, that is not the case. According to a recent WRAL poll, the president maintains a commanding lead.

Although many political analysts believe Kerry bested Bush in the debates, the latest WRAL poll shows his performance hardly moved North Carolina voters. The Bush/Cheney ticket holds a 51 percent to 43 percent lead over the Kerry/Edwards ticket with the challengers closing the gap by just 1 percent since last month's poll.

[Link: www.wral.com...]

I guess skerry doesn't even know what's down here. HAHAHA.

#101 joe_surfs35

WTF does "usually" have to do with anything?

Find a dictionary and read the definition of coup d'état.

"Usually" has nothing to do with it.

I doubt that the LLL has the guts to try a coup. They are a bunch of whining losers who know they are losers so they will try to bully us with lawyers. Typical LLL tripe that works on the local level. If they were to attempt a coup under favorable circumstances they might get away with it. These circumstances would be control of the military, civilian communications, and transportation. The LLL already has half of the com side. They own the MSM, but not the telephones or the Internet. They do not even begin to own the military and never will. Same with the Secret Service and the FBI, DEA, ATF and Homeland Defense. Transportation is the same story. As you can see, the LLL can never control all the elements needed for a successful coup. It would only get themselves killed or imprisoned, which would be a boon for the country in general. Just the thought of executing 10,000 lawyers for treason gives me chills.

I will have all of my weapons locked and loaded on Nov 3. I will be ready for action in the Second American Civil War beginning two weeks from today if Kerry and his thugs try to steal this election.