Hey, why not just declare victory now, while they're at it?

OT - VERY funny anti-Kerry ad here.

What if Dubya locks the doors at the White HOuse?

Naming the national security team he wants before the Nov2 would insure Bush election.

OT but wow

El Rushbo read this entire Wash Post ad, taken out at the sole expense ($104k) of the author, on his show today. It says it all.

[Link: www.whatiam.net...]

Powerful and poignant.

#4 BingoBunny

No, he's going to declare victory on election night and then name his national "security" team.

This is absolutely incredible. I mean, incredible to:

1) Have this treasonous plan in place;
2) Announce it.

WTF has happened to this country?!

Gore had more credibility then than Kerry does now.

Why NOT just do it? It's not like Kerry has any scruples to offend, and he'll probably prevent a wave of suicides occuring among liberals if he isn't elected.

I guess he thinks that gun control laws have stripped us bare, eh? Let's just see how many people take it sitting down when he tries to take the White House after blatantly losing.

A centrist Democrat has turned on Kerry for trying to turn the U.S. electoral system "into a Banana Republic"

Read Stephen Green at VodkaPundit

It sounds like sKerry is threatening to overthrow our government if the election results do not suit him.

Let's get ready to rumblllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, Civil War Part Deux coming to a city/state/county near you.

Gore Part Deux, but WORSE

The worst part is, I'm beginning to think he is going to win. I am deeply disturbed and frightened to think about a world where John F'n Kerry is the most powerful man.

Johnny Cash tribute to George W Bush
When The Man Comes Around

via Tim Blair
[Link: timblair.spleenville.com...]

#9 Lady Redhawk

That's exactly what he's planning.

Fuck the Constitution, fuck basic fairness and decency. I wanna be President.

Gore prematurely conceded the 2000 race to George W. Bush (search), then had to retract his concession after aides said Florida wasn't lost. He never declared victory, an omission Kerry's advisers — many of whom worked for Gore — now believe created a sense of inevitability in voters' minds about Bush's presidency.

I thought that reality mattered more than what the candidates may say after the polls close...

#10

In the blue corner we have....

And in the red corner we have...

This is outrageous. I agree with #9 Lady Redhawk. sKerry is preparing a coup. I hope the Republicans will keep their cool under this assault and the American public will understand what's going on and elect Bush in a landslide.

#3

Well, the Clintons DID take all the furniture when they moved...

And the W keys in the white house computers (although I just couldn't help but laugh at that one).

I was told that Ford's people littered AF One with peanuts for Carter...

Yeesh, maybe he should just go ahead and hire Bagdad Bob as his spokesliar. What a jerk.

#15 Ann

Gore the asshole conceded! The asshole conceded!! The asshole conceded!!!

His concession wasn't "premature". What was premature was the news channels calling Florida for Gore before the polls had even closed there.

When Thom brought this up on the other thread I thought my head would explode. (Last election my friends were calling me daily with recommendations for new and better cardiologists, and offering me rides to the hospital.)

Forget both candidates and their myriad of lawyers - what the hell is this election going to do to the people of this country?

I was so looking forward to November 3 when I could again start talking to my friends and family who are voting for Kerry. I miss them so.

[SIGH.]

#12

the problem with Kerry is he won't be the most powerful man. he may not make top 10..and the USA will suffer for decades to overcome his abuse just as we did to over come Carter.

#20

Gore probably has done something else prematurely...

This is crazy.

Gore prematurely conceded the 2000 race to George W. Bush (search), then had to retract his concession after aides said Florida wasn't lost. He never declared victory, an omission Kerry's advisers — many of whom worked for Gore — now believe created a sense of inevitability in voters' minds about Bush's presidency.

The voter's mind? How did public opinion matter after election day? Gore lost because he conceded (before he didn't concede) and Bush won because he acted like he won and started planning his transition? Horse-hockey. They didn't win or lose based on any public image they presented.

Amid the tumult of the 2000 recount, Bush sought to make his presidency appear as a matter of time by leaking word of his national security team and bringing news cameras into his transition meetings.

Yeah, he was just doing that to APPEAR like the winner. He wasn't being practical or anything. So nice the way they can assign a motivation to any action to make the most benign action good or bad.

This is nothing less than a declaration by the Democrat Party that on November 3, 2004 they are are going to begin an asymmetrical civil war (lawsuits instead of bullets).
He would nuance it but that's what it is. John Kerry will not be denied his birthright.

Well, at least we finally found out what that plan John is always talking about is:

-Iraq: Declare victory, no matter what happens
-The economy: Ditto
-Social Security: Ditto
-North Korea: Ditto
-Iran: Ditto
-Syria: Ditto
-The 2004 election: Ditto

It does have the advantage of being universally applicable.............

#13 jd

great multi media spot. see the thread Charles ran on Monday the 18th at 6:37pm. Lot's of feedback.

Why not skip the middlemen and expense, and just have the courts decide who will be President in 2008?

Slightly OT: The Boston Herald is coming out for Bush/Cheney:

"Bush and Cheney Merit Four More Years"
by the Editorial Staff of the Boston Herald

"We started this new millennium celebrating the heroism of the ``Greatest Generation,'' remember? The ideal of America as the world's liberator, its selfless men and women leaving homes and families to fight for freedom on distant shores still a point of pride but a remnant of history. America's wars were being fought on the front lines of a global economy. Technology meant the world was growing smaller. America's place in the world? Smaller still.

"The attacks of Sept. 11 changed all that, but they didn't change the character of this country. Rather, that day we were reminded of who we are and what our nation must be in the world.

"And a president narrowly elected on a platform of reinvigorating a smaller yet compassionate government, averse to ``nation-building,'' immediately adapted to this fundamental re-ordering of priorities. And George W. Bush has never looked back.

"Nor can we as a nation. While we prospered at home in the last decade of the 20th century, we too often ignored and even emboldened enemies abroad. Never again.

"Because we responded to the horror of Sept. 11 with resolve not remorse, with courage not timidity, we have no doubt that history will record this era as the dawning of a new ``greatest'' generation of Americans - led by a good man who became a remarkable president.

"With all of that in mind, the Boston Herald proudly endorses George W. Bush and Dick Cheney for re-election.

"And while we are in the unusual position of doing so in the face of the candidacy of a native son, our choice was not a close call...."

There's more...read it all.

[Link: news.bostonherald.com...]

#20 Thom

His concession wasn't "premature". What was premature was the news channels calling Florida for Gore before the polls had even closed there.

Exactly! This is ridiculous.

#28 clarice

A duel would involve fewer people.

Lets start a pool: WHat time will Kerry say Bush conceded?

I say 9:32 PM EST.

I think Kerry's strategy is to claim victory before all the illegal votes come out.

If it isn't close they can't cheat.

As we come down to the wire, the best way to express our convictions is to close the browser, turn off the computer, put on our walking shoes, and GET OUT THE VOTE.

If you want to elect Bush, volunteer for the final 72 hours campaign. (Which actually starts the minute you volunteer, and continues till the end of the election; if you are a lawyer and can help with post-election disputes, we need you after the election also.)

Your help is needed even if you are not in a swing state. The campaign will pay for you to go to swing states during the last crucial 3 days and encourage registered voters to get to the polls. If you can't leave town, you can staff phone banks.

Bush by 300 plus electoral votes.. and the MSM running arround telling us who kerry will have in his cabinet when the court cases are settled in a few years.. i would laught my self silly..

Typical Commie. Declare victory, fake the result, then shoot whoever disagrees.

These are interesting times.

The good thing is he is trying it BEFORE he has had the chance to disarm America. I agree with the Civil War comment (which alludes to Bush's Dred Scott, he's not as dumb as they think). WE are on the brink. If Bush wins and we have lawyers contesting a win all over the place a civil uprising might just be in order.

Le coup d'etat a la Kerry? In that case it's going to be
time to bring back le guillotine pour tu, Monseur Kerry.

#33 Yehudit

Even if it isn't close, they are going to try to cheat. They are already to claim disenfranchisement.

Interesting at what % points will sKerry concede? If it's 5 or 10 do they still plan to do their actions? If so, than they have a problem.

#38

all ready PIMF

I voted already. It was easy. I recommend it.

Six so-called "SWAT teams" of lawyers and political operatives will be situated around the country with fueled-up jets awaiting Kerry's orders to speed to a battleground state. The teams have been told to be ready to fly on the evening of the election to begin mounting legal and political fights. No team will be more than an hour from a battleground.

Oh for Pete's Sake.

He is such a schmuck! I think he will lose big and it will not matter in the long run except to make him look bad and that it a good thing.

Fritz's Thoughts

#39...

No... that's the interesting part... their action is not based on stats or facts... it is based on alleged voter fraud, etc. regardless of the actual results.

This is a whole new tack (excuse the windsurfing pun) they are taking from what Gore did.

#16 cdbdbcme

Red Corner.
Blue Corner.

#27 docDoblU

Thanks Charles post so often I sometimes miss things.

[Link: varifrank.com...]

This 'picture' shows two things:

1) One is a hollow vegetable that is going to be carved up around the end of October and forgotten on the side of the road by mid November.

2) The other is a Pumpkin.

LOL

This scares me more than a dirty bomb attack. A dirty bomb cannot take away our republic. The easiest solution is a clear decisive victory -- one that the 'me generation' can understand. That would also force the dems to run on a centrist platform next time, too.

By the way, Nixon actually beat Kennedy in 1960. He knew it was the corrupt machine in Chicago which threw Illinois, which threw the entire nation. But Nixon let Kennedy win for the good of the country rather than force a devisive and ugly recount. That is what I call a patriot.

I hope the Supreme Court discusses this ahead of time and has a plan.

OT - Is the UN Worth Dying For?

From yesterday's WaPo (link requires registration). Maybe somebody already posted about this. It's the lead topic on today's Best of the Web Today, and the money quote is:

Kerry's belief in working with allies runs so deep that he has maintained that the loss of American life can be better justified if it occurs in the course of a mission with international support. In 1994, discussing the possibility of U.S. troops being killed in Bosnia, he said, "If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no."

Shit, where do I get my UN flag?

#42 Ann

Oh for OUR sakes! This is what is planned!

"Right now, we have 10,000 lawyers out in the battleground states on Election Day, and that number is growing by the day," said Michael Whouley, a Kerry confidant who is running election operations at the Democratic National Committee.

45 Right Wing Conspirator

I noticed that also at most events shown on TV but today MSM co-conspirator network CNN had a picture of sKerry with some flags on their hompage. I guess they've finally realized the picture they have really been showing the American public.

#45 RWC

The pictures are a great description of the two corners.

#45 red corner blue corner is great.

Lincoln fought to preserve the Union & end slavery while Kerry's out to hijack it & impose djimmitude & totalitarianism.

Call me Madame Defarge--I'm sharpening my knitting needles & taking names for the coming revolution.

#44 lewisge

Actually, it was a cowboy term before it was a windsurfing term.

I wonder what Kerry's strategy is if the election is NOT in doubt i.e. Dubya winning in a crushing landslide. I predict carping about "stealing the election" even if that's the case.
Besides, national security team? What does he mean by that? Did he watch Team America: World Police and decided he needed one of those? That would be cool if that's the case. One can only hope ;).

Eric Holder said on Fox News Sunday:

"If every vote is allowed to be cast, and if every vote is counted, John Kerry will be president within a day of that election."

Who can spot the double meaning?

Is this hubris, stupidity, or both

#16 cdbdbcme

Red Corner.
Blue Corner.

OT

My (MD) Lieutenant governor, Michael Steele just went up against Rev. Al Sharpton on John Gibson's show on Fox, regarding the fact that polls show that the African-American support of President Bush has doubled in recent days. Doubled!

Al Sharpton's only defense - it's only doubled? It's still low. Ha!

Check Lt. Gov. Steele's page out. We are so lucky to have him, and Gov. Ehrlich, in office. After the snake (a Dem.) that was in office previously - well, there is just no comparison.

42 Ann

Just heard this on Fox also. Unbelievable. Well I was going to vote early but I think I'm gonna wait until election day. My precinct by stats shows the DEMS have a little bit more registerd but Ind almost have as much as both the other two.

My plan, pull out a old BDU shirt, bring VIDEO camera. Find a lawyer type and politely ask him who he/she is there for, than tell him/her that thay are a POS.

John Kerry vs. John Kerry on Legal Reform

#50 cdbdbcme
From your quote:

"Right now, we have 10,000 lawyers out in the battleground states on Election Day, and that number is growing by the day,"

Good. Maybe they won't have time to vote.

Because the race is so close, both sides have similar plans in places.

Both sides have a team of lawyers.

Both sides have accused the other of registration tampering.

....Kerry will be quick to declare victory on election night and begin defending it.

But, will it meet a global test? Such a nuisance.

Ummmmm, what the heck just happened there ?!?!?!

I meant to post a thank you to #51 #52 #53.

(running late.....see you all later)

#59 Catttt

Another Marylander. Welcome!

Steele demolished Sharpton. The Rev actually had the nerve to proclaim that Kerry was going to win with 90% of the vote.

And this idiot racist was a presidential candidate?!

So Kerry's going to mimic what Bush did in 2000, but now that's treason and tantamount to inciting civil war? Gets a little thick in here sometimes, doesn't it?

Kerry will be smart enough not to concede then unconcede. He will declare victory even if he loses and fight it through the courts.

As if the BC04 wouldn't do exactly the same thing. If you think any different, you're fooling yourself. The stakes are the same on both sides: HIGH. Just don't go to sleep tonight thinking that the Democrats are any different than the Republicans when it comes to this election. You people who are living in a world where the Republicans are lilly white and just there to be taken advantage of by rapacious Democrats need to wake up and join us in reality.

#49 Ward Cleaver

Kerry's belief in working with allies runs so deep that he has maintained that the loss of American life can be better justified if it occurs in the course of a mission with international support.

The reporter tries to soften the blow of Kerry's statement. Kerry did not say "can be better justified." He said using American troops without UN backing is "unequivocally" unjustified.

66 Thom

And this idiot racist was a presidential candidate?!

No, that idiot recist was a fake candidate. He was only up there because the real candidates did not have the courage to deny him the stage as he deserved.

If you weren't a troll, I would take the time to prove how wrong you are.

#63 hs

But only one side is prepared to grab power before the electoral college has voted. Only one side is laying the groundwork for lawsuits by telling their voters to whine about voter suppression even if there is none. And on and on and on.

The Republicans would be insane not to have lawyers ready to fight against this un-American, illegal dhimmicrat bullshit.

#67 joe_surfs35

What Bush did in 2000 was win.

joe_surf must be taking the same meds as Gore.

#67 joe_surfs35

Bush rightly claimed victory after Gore conceded.

Dumbass.

I think I hate these people. I really do. They are going to do everything they can to steal this election, and I am frightened.

OT, here's some interesting words from Ter-ay-zuh:

PITTSBURGH, Oct. 20 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Teresa Heinz Kerry released the following statement today:

"I had forgotten that Mrs. Bush had worked as a school teacher and librarian, and there couldn't be a more important job than teaching our children. As someone who has been both a full time mom and full time in workforce, I know we all have valuable experiences that shape who we are. I appreciate and honor Mrs. Bush's service to the country as First Lady, and am sincerely sorry I had not remembered her important work in the past."

She had FORGOTTEN? Even if she didn't know what the hell Laura Bush did, why would she issue a statement that illuminates her stupidity?

Here's a linkTer-ay-zuh on Laura

Thank you for posting this, Charles.

#17 Peter

It's not going to be a coup per se, but a legal blitz attempting two things:
Pre empt any actions against the fraudulent voting. (just because you're dead, doesn't mean your opinion shouldn't matter) and
Find out which rules need changing how so that anything close can be shoved firmly into the blue.

For some reason, they've gotten it into their heads that perception after the fact means more votes. This leads me to think that one of two things is in effect with the Kerry team. 1) they're the silliest bunch of sods of which I've ever heard, or 2) there's something entirely other behind this. No one could really be that stupid. Votes in are votes in, a changing tide of popular opinion might bring calls for another vote, but it won't happen.

But then my anti-conspiracy-theory cells kick in and I wonder...

maybe they really are that stupid.
I saw another write-up on pajamapundits

#71 Luigi

Exactly. These dhimmicrats are spineless turds.

#56 Sentinel Talos:

I wonder what Kerry's strategy is if the election is NOT in doubt

If they can't find any excuse to contest the election - and I'm sure they'll find something, even if it is a landslide - they will revert to the usual leftist line; the media manipulated the public into accepting the status quo, the American people are dumb sheeple, the growing disenfranchised underclass didn't vote because both candidates represent the rich, etc.

The socialist (crypto-fascist) left only believes in democracy as long as it suits their purposes. When public opinion starts to turn against them they turn to judicial means, street violence, media manipulation, alternative structures like the UN and EU, etc.

John Kerry is a clown.

Dude, the NY Times conceded that Bush won in the recounts after the election.

THE NEW YORK FUCKING TIMES

Mike Moore forgot to mention that in his piece of cinematic diarreah.

We're watching the Democratic party showing it's true agenda: power. It's not about America and what they think is best for it. It's about prying their cold dead fingers of the levers of our country. They think it's their right to govern. How about coming up with better ideas than the Republicans and winning by the rules? You used to know how to do that.

#73. Which came first. It doesn't matter anymore. Given what happened in 2000, the questionable state of the US viting system and the very tight nature of this race, both sides would prepare for the worst in case it happens.

Man, these people are completely mad! They want to destroy our Republic from within.

Not sure if this was posted here before .

Perhaps the article below has something to do with this link (humor) . ..
Note: you may need to click on the link more than once. (not compatible with netscape browsers)

[Link: www.wc3sear.ch...]

Here is a link to the current article on Diebold's e-voting earnings struggles

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

#86 SouthAmericanWay

All while claiming THEY are the VICTIMS.

WASHINGTON —Sen. John Kerry has a simple strategy if the presidential race is in doubt on Nov. 3, the day after the election: Do not repeat Al Gore’s mistakes.

How can he repeat Gore's mistakes when he's already far surpassed them?

Unlike the former vice president, who lost a recount fight and the 2000 election, Kerry will be quick to declare victory on election night and begin defending it.

Translation: He'll declare victory, no matter the result, then call anyone who says differently a liar and a thief. And, should the USSC call it in Bush's favor, call them biased and accuse them of "appointing" Bush a second time.

He also will be prepared to name a national security team before knowing whether he’s secured the presidency.

Great way to ruin the political careers of others: Name them to positions of power, only to have them be humiliated when they find out that the guy doing the naming lost the election.

"Right now, we have 10,000 lawyers out in the battleground states on Election Day...

That's a lot of lawyers. Sounds like the herd needs thinnin'.

I wonder--is that their plan for an aggressive North Korea, Syria, or China? Send in the lawyers? I mean, I'd be okay with that, as long as the second sortie flown carries real bombs.

Six so-called "SWAT teams" of lawyers and political operatives....

Okay, now I'm laughing my a** off. It does, however, have merit as the basis of a video game.

#85 hs

the very tight nature of this race

In yours and the MSM's dreams its a close race.

#85 hs

Yeah. And who's laying the groundwork for the worst to happen?

Stop trying to draw some sort of moral equivalency between the dhimmis and the Republicans. Such an equivalency simply does not exist.

Typical, one thing the LLLs learned long ago was how to manipulate something with an activist judge. They have no scruples so we can never expect anything less than moonbatyness out of them!

#63 hs:

That's BS. Same thing as equating the Swift Boat Vets with MoveOn.org etc. The Democrats are the ones promoting and exploiting the lie that Bush stole the 2000 election, deliberately sowing doubts about the basic fairness of the electoral system, tearing down American democracy in the process. In the words of Eric Holder: "If every vote is allowed to be cast, and if every vote is counted, John Kerry will be president within a day of that election." We might as well just call of the whole election and crown Kerry, if that's the measure of fairness, but that's the premise on which the Dems operate. You don't hear this kind of BS from Republicans.

#77
Her Majesty probably received a hasty call from an NEA political commissar:

"We know that Laura is a Repug and therefore a subversive and a class enemy while she worked as a teacher and librarian, but we can't very well deny that it was a REAL JOB!"

#89. For Christ's sake.

If the election is contested, both sides will start their search -- Kerry for his entire team and Bush for replacements if needed. Considering the short amount of time between election and swearing in, it's the smart thing for anybody in that position.

While Bush did not name his cabinet during the Florida voting controversy, he did look and start talking to people.

John "Global Test" Kerry seems to have learned something from most of the other governments represented at the UN. They take power by means of a coup. And the UN has always been Kerry's ideal in many ways.

If Kerry takes physical possession of the Oval Office during a moment when Pres. Bush is not in it, and announces appropriate appointments to head the CIA and the FBI and National Security Agency, he will in effect dare anybody to remove him after he proclaims himself president.

We will be much more global with Kerry's coup.

Re Mrs. Laura Bush and employment:

My late mother was a librarian and a teacher, and also a mother and wife. She worked, Mrs. Heinz-Kerry - she definitely worked - none of those occupations are 9 - 5 Mon - Fri, I assure you.

If Bush has a 10 vote or more EC lead and a 3%+ popular vote lead, John Kerry will look like a delusional street person not to concede. All you disaffected Democrats (or former Democrats) will be getting a lot more company if he does something that stupid

#98

Um, coups usually involve elements of the armed forces or state security apparatus. You worried about the National Park Service or something?

For some reason, they've gotten it into their heads that perception after the fact means more votes.

Those of you who are discussing this fail to miss the point, I think. No, public opinion will have little effect on the courts and legal processes which are sure to follow but they will have one effect: Create the impression (yet again) this this is yet another illegitimate presidency and possibly set the stage for an impeachment move in the next congress. Assuming the Republicans will retain control of the House one can assume that yet again virtually everything will be stuck in committee and fillibuster on the grounds that the legislative proposals of an illegitimate administration are themselves illegitimate. Expect moves to defund Iraq and the occupation, etc....

Should I scare up my link to all of my various posts on this subject? Is it worth it, or even necessary?

It seems to me that whenever I feel that the "left" has hit bottom, it find a new means of descending deeper into the abyss.

HA NC STILL A REP STRONGHOLD.

WRAL Poll: Bush Maintains Lead In N.C.
With less than two weeks to go until Election Day, nationwide polls show President George W. Bush and Sen. John Kerry in a dead heat. However in North Carolina, that is not the case. According to a recent WRAL poll, the president maintains a commanding lead.

Although many political analysts believe Kerry bested Bush in the debates, the latest WRAL poll shows his performance hardly moved North Carolina voters. The Bush/Cheney ticket holds a 51 percent to 43 percent lead over the Kerry/Edwards ticket with the challengers closing the gap by just 1 percent since last month's poll.

[Link: www.wral.com...]

I guess skerry doesn't even know what's down here. HAHAHA.

#101 joe_surfs35

WTF does "usually" have to do with anything?

Find a dictionary and read the definition of coup d'état.

"Usually" has nothing to do with it.

I doubt that the LLL has the guts to try a coup. They are a bunch of whining losers who know they are losers so they will try to bully us with lawyers. Typical LLL tripe that works on the local level. If they were to attempt a coup under favorable circumstances they might get away with it. These circumstances would be control of the military, civilian communications, and transportation. The LLL already has half of the com side. They own the MSM, but not the telephones or the Internet. They do not even begin to own the military and never will. Same with the Secret Service and the FBI, DEA, ATF and Homeland Defense. Transportation is the same story. As you can see, the LLL can never control all the elements needed for a successful coup. It would only get themselves killed or imprisoned, which would be a boon for the country in general. Just the thought of executing 10,000 lawyers for treason gives me chills.

I will have all of my weapons locked and loaded on Nov 3. I will be ready for action in the Second American Civil War beginning two weeks from today if Kerry and his thugs try to steal this election.

"Just the thought of executing 10,000 lawyers for treason gives me chills."

Gives me the warm fuzzies.

#97, hs. You still trying to learn to fly on that left wing?

As I posted on another thread.

The bloodless coup would be attempted through the courts.

A coup as defined by Meriam Webster is an overturn. Kerry will be trying to overturn the election results if he loses.

He'd best not even look like he plans something like that. He'll end up as isolated as Arafat. That's anarchy.

#106

Another lizardoid with homicidal fantasies...

Get help.

#45

'Xactly!

Coups, succession, civil war, fear, desperation – this is serious

I LOVE IT

Remember: A DIVIDED HOUSE IS SOON CONQUERED

Gosh, I'll bet they'll do a Mussolini style march on Washington while they're at it.

OT

Taliban riven by dissent

FUGITIVE Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar has had a serious falling-out with some of his lieutenants, who blame him for the rebels' failure to launch a major assault during landmark Afghan presidential elections, the US military said today.

#101 joe_surfs35
If Kerry goes the coup route, it will be more nuanced.

There's a group out here in the Bay Area that used to be called Defend Affirmative Action By Any Means Necessary. They were a one-issue advocacy group. But as their struggles to prop up institutionalized racism affirmative action fizzled, they started diversifying in their political interests. Soon it was "Stop the War By Any Means Necessary" and so on. Now, they have dropped the subject of their title entirely and they simply go by the name "By Any Means Necessary." BAMN basically stands for the concept of "the ends justify the means." BAMN is a concept that has spread throughout the Democratic establishment. BAMN is: lie, cheat and steal to take power. Kill, if "necessary." It's a very scary philosophical movement, and it's now become mainstream with this Kerry announcement.

10,000 plus bananas in tailpipes.... what a busy day it will be. ;-)

#4 BingoBunny

No, he's going to declare victory on election night and then name his national "security" team.

This all sounds totalitarian to me, I'm afraid to say.

He'll declare victory, name his "security team" ... and what will the "security team" do thereafter? Go out and terrorize people?

If he declares "victory," will he then attempt to challenge the president's authority on decision making?

Will he attempt to give orders to the U.S. military?

Is this going to be an attempt at a coup?

What?

I conceded before I didn't concede.

"Gosh, I'll bet they'll do a Mussolini style march on Washington while they're at it."

The blackshirt peacenik and trustafarian hordes have the right uniform at any rate.

By Any Means Necessary." BAMN basically stands for the concept of "the ends justify the means." BAMN is a concept that has spread throughout the Democratic establishment. BAMN is: lie, cheat and steal to take power. Kill, if "necessary." It's a very scary philosophical movement, and it's now become mainstream with this Kerry announcement.

They honestly forget the REP stronghold of the south hold all the cards when it comes to military power. kedwards seems to forget this and his John Boy Edwards isn't even carrying his own state.

#118 zombie

Can you give us some detail on the role of "BAMN" in Kerry's post-election day planning?

My mom wasn't planning to vote this year but then she asked me if she could borrow my copy of UNFIT TO COMMAND.

I'll let you folk know how it turns out.

Kerry wants a more thoughtful way in inform Americans of the terrorist risk we face then color coding now used.

I suggest his system would look like this

1 Hide in your house till the UN arrives

2 make sure you have 2 voter cards for close elections.

3 buy french wine remember your not exporting jobs your importing Hope.

4 Travel to the mexican border towns and help someone with a ride back to NY or Minn.

5 study your Koran each night "I may have a test for you."

Just so you know born and raised in the North until 18 and now have infiltrated the South will all my other brothers/sisters from the North, just call it military veteran assimalation of the south.

HEY! Lawyers cannot decide elections. It has to be a judge! And what's stopping an activist judge from declaring a George Bush victory unconstitutional

They do it with everything else! LOOK OUT, DANGER AHEAD!

Major Kudos to THOM for stating the obvious:

Gore the asshole conceded! The asshole conceded!! The asshole conceded!!!

His concession wasn't "premature". What was premature was the news channels calling Florida for Gore before the polls had even closed there.

Oh great! The new MSM, Nickolodeon, just announced that the "kids" chose Kerry for president. I wonder how many actual "kids" did the voting! Then Linda Ellerby told the kids to remind their parents to vote.

What a slime bag operation!

#125 joe_surfs35

Can you respond to a counter-argument, or are you just trolling?

At any rate, zombie was making a point about the "by any means necessary" that has seized the left.

#126 The Other Les
I'll keep my fingers crossed. When your mom's finished with it, can my mom read it?

A bit of humor.

.....Even more amazing, Kerry is carrying a full 45 percent of the anti-Kerry votes. But that is something of a statistical fluke, as all the pollsters have agreed that there are no pro-Kerry voters in the country. This election is simply breaking along the line that divides the voters who don't like Kerry from those who really, really don't like him.

Even his wife and benefactor, Teresa Heinz-Kerry (or, Teresa Heinz, as she by law had to identify herself on her recently released tax returns), doesn't like him. Whenever he grabs her to give her a smooch in public, she twists out of his clutches (her bank accounts weren't so lucky). When she refers to her "husband," she is referring to the dead one (yes, I know, how can you tell them apart?).

Perhaps the strangest thing about this election campaign is that despite all the vulgarities, lies and probably criminal vote stealing going on, the Clintons are largely out of the picture. Apparently, American elections have developed to the point where they can be deeply corrupt without the assistance of the boy from Hope and his bride from Yale.

In what was surely merely a medical coincidence, his doctors announced that contrary to what they said shortly after the surgery, Bill's recovery is going a little slower than expected and he probably will not be able to hit the campaign trail on behalf of Kerry for a while longer, perhaps not until Nov. 3. Rumor has it that when they made the announcement, Hillary was seen smiling in the corner -- with a stethoscope in her teeth and a calendar for 2008 in her hands.

On the theatrical front, Sinclair Broadcasting is planning to show a few days before the election on all 60 of its stations an edited version of Mel Gibson's latest hit, now titled: "the Passion of the Bush," with a cameo appearance by John Kerry as Pontius Pilate and Michael Moore playing the part of the crowd. The Democratic National Committee officials aren't sure what to do, as they rather like the plot line -- up to a point. .....

Election madness

#130 shrewd-attitude

LOL. Just call me "Mr. MOTO".

In case the result of the election is in doubt -- and no matter what the result Kerry will declare that he won -- Kerry can always call for the United Nations to determine who the winner was. Isn't that part of what he implied when he called for a "global test" for US decisions and actions?

I live in Boston, & right now there are massive fireworks exploding on the harbor. Well, it could be to egg the Red Sox on, but more likely, Thereza & sKerry have invited their insider friends to a grand soiree in a fancy hotel to celebrate their upcoming victory....heck if Saddam can buy help in the UN, why not Kerry with his Ketchup heiress?

Joe's just a troll

#131
Linda Ellerbee? She's still working? Gee, I thought she had cashed in back in the 80s and retired to a converted Vermont barn with the rest of the Bolshevik hippies.

#132 Thom

What counterargument?

#117 EE

If Kerry goes the coup route, it will be more nuanced.

Le coup d'Etat pour Monsieur Kerry? C'est tres magnifique! Kerry the cheese eating Francophallic scumbag.

Now over to Havoc, native Chicagoan, well sort of,

#15 Ann, #20 Thom, #23 et al

Just remember who told Gore to call back, and Un-concede, and go to court ---

His campaign advisor, William M. Daley, Attorney, Brother of Richard Daley Jr. current mayor of Chicago, son of Ricard J. Daley Sr. six time mayor of Chicago, yeah that one, "Vote Early and often" Daley.

That taught the current Dem's everything they know about "getting out the vote".

They make "Rise up and walk Edwards" look like a piker, -- every election the Daleys raise the dead and get them to the polls.

At his death in 1976, the public's perception of Daley was the image painted by Mike Royko in Boss—corrupt, racist, cruel, brutish.

Boss: Richard J. Daley of Chicago
by Mike Royko

American Pharaoh : Mayor Richard J. Daley - His Battle for Chicago and the Nation

Richard J. Daley: Politics, Race, and the Governing of Chicago

Favorite Daley malaproprism:

"Gentlemen, get the thing straight, once and for all: the policeman isn't there to 'create' disorder; the policeman is there to 'preserve' disorder."

#125 joe_surfs35

#118 zombie
Can you give us some detail on the role of "BAMN" in Kerry's post-election day planning?

from BAMN's own site:

BAMN is a mass, democratic, integrated, national organization dedicated to building a new mass civil rights movement to defend affirmative action, integration, and the other gains of the civil rights movement of the 1960s and to advance the struggle for equality in American society by any means necessary.
...
BAMN is committed to making real the ideal of "government of the people, by the people, for the people." But democracy, too, must be a sham as long as the fundamental inequalities of poverty, racism, and sexism deform the relations of political power along with access to educational and economic opportunities. Here again, America can only become what it should be through a national policy of affirmative action.

Translation: We reject the concept of majority rule. Enforced affirmative action = the end of meritocracy in favor of Bolshevik-style favoritism.

There are no obvious direct organizational links to the Kerry campaign, but it's obvious he has adopted their world view.

#131 cdbdbcme

Red Kids Read, Blue Kids Watch Boob Tube

As if the conflicting polls of "registered voters," "likely voters" and "national adults" weren't confusing enough, now we have a pair of surveys of American children that show contradictory results:

Senator John Kerry has been declared the winner of Nickelodeon's "Kids' Vote" according to kids nationwide who exercised their voting power in the network's presidential poll held online Oct. 19. . . . In this year's vote, Sen. John Kerry received 57% of the vote, and President George W. Bush received 43%.

But Scholastic, a children's publishing company, gives victory to Bush:

In the 2004 Scholastic Election Poll, George W. Bush received 52 percent of the votes and the Democratic contender, John F. Kerry, received 47 percent. Rounding out the vote, 1 percent of students.

Apparently kids who read favor Bush, while those who watch TV prefer Kerry. Hmm, whose parents are more likely to vote?

#140 jrdroll

Um, what means "Francophallic?"

Heh heh..
I sometimes catch myself hoping it's as close as last time, just to really drive the conspiracy theorists up the wall.
Who knows? Maybe it would even knock them back into the real world, or something.

I wouldn’t call it a homicidal fantasy, just a possible and favorable outcome of a failed coup. The government would give them a fair trial and you know their comrades would defend them. With over a million of them, anything that decreases the lawyer population would be a positive influence for the country. And of course I do not condone killing anyone, even a lawyer…

LAURA BUSH VS. TERESA HEINZ-KERRY SMACKDOWN 2004: WINNER TAKE ALL ELECTORAL VOTES & THE WHITE HOUSE

Oh, this is all so distressing I had to pour myself a second drink. The Dems - when they can't get what they want through a popular majority or through a legislature - (think abortion, think bussing, think the end to affirmative reaction) always resort to the courts. And it makes such a sad and disheartening spectacle of our great democracy to see out elections going the same way. But it's inevitable for all the reasons stated here: kerry won't concede graceful defeat, and 10,000 lawyers will have to lawyer, just as 10,000 fish have to swim. God help our formerly majestic democracy.

#142 zombie

Kerry is a Bolshevik? Is that anything like "Francophallic?"

#139 joe_surfs35

In reply to your inane #67, I countered with #76. You did not reply.

In reply to your inane #101, I countered with #105. You did not reply.

In reply to your inane #125, I countered with #132 (2^nd sentence). You did not reply.

Are you inattentive, uncomprehending, or dishonest? There is no fourth possibility.

# 106 Loflyer

Just the thought of executing 10,000 lawyers for treason gives me chills.

As the old joke used to go, that would be a good start.

#150 Thom

Just a troll. GAZE at him.

#149

FOAD GAZE.

Gee, Thom, I guess your posts just aren't very memorable. But keep trying.

#144 joe

Um, what means "Francophallic?"

well phallus means:

a symbol or representation of the penis

[Link: www.m-w.com...]

The wider the margin, the harder it will be for this JoKe to litigate his way into the White House. If he ever got into the White House, he'd do worse than steal the furniture, knick-knacks and "w"s off computer keyboards. He would do more damage than the 9/11 hijackers. They hijacked planes and slaughtered our citizens; skerry would hijack and slaughter our country.

I'm a pollworker on 2 Nov, and I understand CT is one of the few states to require ID to vote! Yes, I'll be checking to make sure every voter is a legitimate voter. (Alas, in a heavily Dummi-rat state, but I have hope for cross-party votes.)

As long as they are legitimate registered citizen voters, I can live with the genuine will of the electorate, but I cannot accept the sole will of a scurrilous traitor or fraudulent voting instigated by his henchmen.

Flush the Johns! Get this stench out of the US.

"President Kerry"

"President John Kerry"

"Ladies and Gentlemen, the President of the United States, John F. Kerry!"

"Honored dignitairies of the United Nations, President of the United States, John Kerry"

"President Kerry and Palestinian Leader Yasir Arafat met in the Rose Garden today to discuss...."

"President Kerry and North Korean President Kim Jong Il signed a landmark agreement today..."

"Attending the signing ceremony of the Kyoto II treaty, Presisdent Kerry said...."

"Commenting on the International Criminal Court indictments of former President George W. Bush, President Kerry indicated..."

"In light of Iran's latest nuclear test, President Kerry's failure to get UN approval for....."

Just get used to it. He is going to be President come hell or high water. If they don't win they will steal it.

#149 joe_surfs35
Kerry is a Bolshevik?

In many ways, yes: He is an elitist pretending to speak for the hoi polloi, while grabbing power and living in luxury himself. And, like the 1917-21 Bolsheviks, he is willing to tear his own country to shreds in order to seize and consolidate his own power. This threatened civil war is more reminiscent, to me, of the post-Revolution Russian Civil War, rather than the American Civil War.

i would have used the term francophile. It sounds better

Even when a recall demand may be legitimate, it hurts the country, so I would think that someone who cares about America would try to avoid it excet in only the most obvious of events,

BUT for Kerry to already be threateing this makes me sick to my stomach. Kerry is willing to drag our country through the mud and humiliate the country with even BOGUS claims?? Just MORE ammo for our enemies to claim that America's freedom isnt what we claim it to be.

Discusting, traitourous bastard

Liberal rule #1: The ends justifies the means.

Conservative rule #1 regarding Liberals: They will only accuse you of things they are willing to do themselves (and probably are doing).

Leadheads 1st prediction regarding the upcoming election: There will be more voting irregularities in Democrat controlled precincts than Republican controlled precincts (just like in 2000).

Leadhead's 2nd prediction regarding the upcoming election: It won't matter.

I picked up three Bush/Cheney yard signs from the County RNC headquarters this evening. I was going to wait until the rain stopped to pound them in, but they are up now.

The nice guy that handed them to me warned me not to be surprised if they are gone or ripped up soon. I asked him if he is getting alot of reports of this, and he said that he has never seen anything at this level before. All the way around.

Yard sign watch. Night One.

# 133 J

Some much needed levity for a thread that deals with a dark issue ...

{I've never seen Blankley **this** funny before!!!!}

#137 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Register trolls, not guns.

Sounds like a coup in the making.

sKerry just said on CNN that US troops "are the best trained and best led in the world." Well, duh. Who's C-in-C? Bush!

lol

#153 joe_surfs35

Well. If you can't spot (or ignore) replies to you, and then ask audaciously "what counter-arguments?" then there's no need to bother replying. You aren't here to debate anything, you just want to leave pee puddles on Charles' beautiful carpet.

#152 Mr Pol

I know. But I wanted to try shaming it into actually engaging in discussion. No luck.

Surprise, surprise, surprise!

</Gomer Pyle>

#162

I know i won't put up a sign. I'll get shot.

You know, surprisingly, I didn't have too many people ask questions when I was on the public range today in full battle rattle. One kid asked me if I was a local SWAT officer, though.

If Kerry wants to declare victory and lawyer it out with complete disregard for the actual election results, then so be it. I'm not going to be making giant puppet heads or throwing rocks.

I am young, single, and I have no children. I have few possesions other than my natural rights and my vote (which is now in doubt, since I still haven't received confirmation of my voter registration).

I will be surprised if this election doesn't turn into a mess of litigation.

New entry for the Anti-idiotarian Dictionary:

Francophallic adj. [Franco (L., "frog" or "weasel") + phallus L. male organ of generation): ardently desiring the insertion of the collective French penis into one's rectum.

#162 Ann

High-powered BB gun with salt-coated BBs at the ready?

BTW, one of JFK's (the real one) aide said years after the assassination, that he had always thought that Nixon had one reason for which the nation should thank him: the 1960 election had so many, sahll we say, irregularities, that had Nixon contestes it, he would likely have been president. he chose not to contest to spare the nation the trauma of a held up elctoral result. Guess nixon had more decencyt than his democrat descendants.

The original John F. Kerry coupe

Any electoral fiasco can be blamed on Clintonista Terry "The Weasel" McAuliffe. He's the guy that brought us the concept of the White House as a B&B for the highest bidder - renting out the Lincoln Bedroom. Yep. He's the guy who brought you military voter disenfranchisement in Florida (2000). Get ready. He's baaaaaaack!

#164 Belize042

Register trolls, not guns.

LOL!

#170

Oh yeah. That does sound better. lol

#125, #142 - sorta OT reply
Forgive me, but I prefer Bam to BAMN :)

Kerry is too liberal for America.

He is a Vietnam war criminal. If the "FAKE" purple heart-bandaid was on the other self-inflicted foot, the media would have had Special Reports for 4 years straight about the attrocities he'd committed.

The liberals are backing the wrong guy and they can't stand it! So they resort to stupid rhetorical questions!

Her's one? Do you have any naked pictures of your mom?

Get an argument that doesn't have "foreign policy" or "quagmire" in it for God's sake!

1) It is abundantly clear that Al Gore did horrific and irreparable harm to a political process that had been remarkably stable, peaceful, and effective.
2) That said, It's not going to come to civil war under any circumstances. If it plays out in the courts then it will play out in the courts. If the decision comes to the supreme court or a vote in the legislature (269) than so be it.

Both parties are prepared for it getting ugly. So be it.

Ideally there will be a completely unambiguous result on election night (in favor of Bush). Less than ideally there will be an unambiguous result on election night (in favor of Kerry). In either of these cases there will be bitching at the margins about fraud and disenfranchisement and such, but if the result is clear, then those will be matters for study by blue ribbon commisions and won't impact the result.

If Bush carries 2 of Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, then Kerry will have to concede. It will be ridiculous to contest the election if it requires overturning certified results in more than one state.

Time will tell, but I'm not gonna carry my .45 around with me election day or anything... It simply will not come to that.

My deepest fear is a series of small terror actions aimed at disrupting the election. Not because they will change the outcome, but because innocent people will die because the terrorists believe they can disrupt elections in the west now...

when W wins 49 states to 1 those lawyers wont be a litigatin much

dont those democrats remind you of kids that leave the playground with their ball if they dont get their way

#171 Thom

High-powered BB gun with salt-coated BBs at the ready?

Nope.
30-40 Krag!

OT: Kerry and outsourcing US national security

Kerry says American soldiers should die exclusively under the flag of the UN.

Kerry's belief in working with allies runs so deep that he has maintained that the loss of American life can be better justified if it occurs in the course of a mission with international support. In 1994, discussing the possibility of U.S. troops being killed in Bosnia, he said, "If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no."

By gumbo, this guy has a screw loose!

Jimmy Carter, Al Core, Hilary Clinton, Bill Clinton, the Chicago Daley's, Teddy Kennedy, Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, Michael Moore, Al Franken, Kerry, Edwards

It is time we get organized and divide up.

We need volunteers for the Carter/Chris Matthews Mission. Would prefer people who have worked with the delusional.

Volunteers for Gore, Michael Moore, Al Franken mission

Volunteers for the Clinton theater. All volunteers must have some experience with theater COMEDY/DRAMA

Volunteers for the Kennedy, Dan Rather assault. Now these two are very tricky all applicants must have some training with special forces.

You get the idea.

Bring plenty of soap and water and some type of disinfecting agent. Be sure to wash your hands often. Wear protective clothing because it really flies in this crowd. If you accidentally swallow anything induce vomiting. Ears should be plugged when nearing any of these people.

FYI

Check out Kerry's Boys

[ International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda : History ]
UN compensates Rwandan former employee suspected of genocide


Imprimer

For three-and-a-half years Callixte Mbarushimana has managed to escape both Rwandan justice and the Arusha tribunal (ICTR). Now he is no the poorer for it. On 11 April 2001, the UN employee was arrested in Kosovo at Rwanda's request, on suspicion of participating in the 1994 genocide. Two months later, the Kosovo courts, operating under UN supervision, concluded that the case against him was weak. They refused the extradition request and freed him. New York then instructed the ICTR prosecutor to resume investigations, but the case was eventually dismissed for lack of evidence. The problem was, by then Mbarushima had lost his UN job. So he decided to lodge an official complaint. And according to the Sunday Times, the UN has just granted him compensation and interest amounting to 47,635 US dollars.
Imprimer

18 October 2004

#144 joe_surfs35

Um, what means "Francophallic?"

obviously, it means "French prick".

#138 Shiplord Kirel
#143 Sheepdogess

Sorry I hadn't responded I took my book reading child to an activity. Must explain why Scholastic gets so much of my money.

Yes Linda is now feeding trash to the kids.

Eric Holder: "If every vote is allowed to be cast, and if every vote is counted, John Kerry will be president within a day of that election."

"Let every vote count" = "commit massive voter fraud"

It means allow illegal aliens, non-citizens, the dead, dogs and assorted animals to vote, allow fraudulent votes, and count 'em all. The Dems seem to be behind the vast majority of fraudulent voter registrations I've seen so far, and behind voter fraud in past elections.

The Dhimms have got to go down. Took too many lessons from old Mayor Daley and from Tammany Hall.

#179 vtrtl

Shhh! Everyone was having such a good time talking about coups and Bolshies and Francophalluses and you had to go and ruin it. *sigh*

182 Eagle 10/20/2004 04:17PM PST
OT: Kerry and outsourcing US national security

The article is gone.Kerry says American soldiers should die exclusively under the flag of the UN.

#147

Good one !

#141 Addendum - slightly center of OT

Two of the things that made growing up in the Chicago suburbs a rare blessing --

Jack Brickhouse and Harry Carey.

Keith Hernandez' Book is finally back in print --Pure Baseball: Pitch by Pitch for the Advanced Fan

One of the 10 best books I have ever read.

Aren't the democrats, by the russian definition of the word, bolsheviks?

I'm just sayin'...

182 Eagle 10/20/2004 04:17PM PST

It is here now

#181 Ann

Well, that report should definitely have them crapping in their pants!

This is surreal, and nobody wants to face it; however, it's no time to go wobbly now. Sprint hard to the finish. Get everybody you know to vote (especially Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Wisconsin, New Jersey, etc.).

How could Joe Scarborough allow plastic-faced sKerry apologist Lawrence O'Donnell to guest host last night? I had to triple my blood pressure meds.

Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.

#160 Tats66 - you're right.

John Kerry: Once a Traitor, Always a Traitor

You have to remember that, unlike the last election, Bush is President and has the full power of the Federal government behind him for at least 60 days after the election.

What was premature was the news channels calling Florida for Gore before the polls had even closed there.

Same in Kentucky. Bush won Kentucky but how many voters stayed home.

How many voters in the west part of the country stayed home when Fla was called for Gore and Ohio was not called for hours although Bush had a large lead there?

The army of 10,000 lawyers are fighting for their very lives and they know it. If Bush wins, tort reform has a good chance of passing.

#118, #158 Zombie and Rayra

So with only 60 shopping days left -- I should be out shopping for that .50 caliber rifle as well as a couple of the 350 Ultra Mag Remington Model 7's ?

Civil war ? I thought in the South and New England they settled problems with traitors with a rope and a tree.

#118

Yeah, and I'd like to kick their asses "by any means necessary."

As always, knowing that other Lizards are within the sound of my keyboard is always comforting....

Remember when Mark MacGwyer and Sammy Sosa were battling for the Home Run championship years ago? Later, on television Ted Kennedy congratulated Mark MacGwyer and "Sammy Sooser"? didn't he read up on the names before he came out to try to be the every fan. Just like his cuddle-bunny Kerry with "Lambert" field.

Dude, go get another 1000 dollar haircut and a cuticle massage so next time you put on your f**king Carhartt, you can muss that hair-helmet and put fake dirt in your nails so as to appear to be the every man!

#162 Ann

The very nice young woman at our local Republican HQ jokingly suggested attaching electric wires to the yard sign. Kind of a like a moonbat zapper.
JWM

#181 Ann

Ann's power i like it

#178

Fake Purple Hearts, indeed! Check out how they're now being used: Slam Kerry

#198 Havoc

#118, #158 Zombie and Rayra
So with only 60 shopping days left -- I should be out shopping for that .50 caliber rifle as well as a couple of the 350 Ultra Mag Remington Model 7's ?

You should be out shopping for a Canon PowerShot G6 with 4X optical zoom and 7.1 megapixels.

And if Kerry can't coup by himself, there's always the Global Vote 2004 site where non-citizens can go to vote in the USA election to influence thru American media a tight election, according to their site. Out-flipping-rage-ous!

[Link: www.technicola.com...]

Mr. Havoc, it seems, waxes nostalgic for lynching.

I'm beginning to understand why this place has the reputation it does.

Bush's constitution trumps Kerry's lawyers every time.

Our wise forefathers foresaw this type of crap(pardon my paraphrase) "in case of shenanigans, congress shall select the president"

It is extremely unlikely that the election is going to be that close... The MSM is spinning it as a tie right now because otherwise what would they have to talk about. Also they can't imagine a US in which Bush wins the election by a significant margin... they are suffering from a failure of imagination.

It's probably not time to sell your house and pour everything into ammo and land in Idaho.

If the DUers come for you they probably won't have guns. If they do they certainly won't know how to use them. Well maybe Kos will remember which end the bullets come out of from his days in the Army... (bet that guy was a full on shithouse lawyer who greatly vexed his chain of command).

Well, last time they almost pulled it off because they had the MSM - we had Fox

Now? We have the blogs. LGF, FreeRepublic, Drudge, PowerLine. Think of it. Four years ago that asshole Rather would have gotten away with the forged memos because there was NO ONE to stop him. Fox was still considered a right-wing shill.

But now -- present forged documents at 5:00 p.m. - face the Lizard King at High Noon.

For those that missed it.

Wisconsin Prisoners Voting

J fn K (now you got me doing it) may be counting on Bush
pulling a 'Nixon' for the good of the country. We need to
make sure that doesn't happen. If the Supremes need to do it again, so be it. The last thing I want is for dead people, felons, morons, senile citizens, and functional iliterates deciding who should be Commander-in-Chief.
Without those folks, the Dems would be toast anyway.

Al

Kerry and what army? The military supports Bush 4:1.

LGF Alert! Alert! Dive immediately!

[Link: www.electoral-vote.com...]

And it's not hacked this time!

The question is: what strategies to the Republican lawyers and operatives have to prevent this result? Can the Supreme Court be counted on to throw the election their way again?

This would sure stop those sign stealers, but Its probably not Legal -damn.

[Link: www.zwire.com...]

BLACKSTONE -- Police are packing a new gun these days -- one that holds 180 rounds, fires as quickly as the user pulls the trigger and takes down suspects with a powdered form of pepper spray.
Essentially, it is a modified paintball gun. But unlike the ones used by weekend warriors on recreational outings in the woods, the versions used by police pack a lot more punch.

The projectiles move at 360 feet per second, said Patrolman Gregg Haynes. The gun can’t fire normal paintballs because the speed is too fast, he said.

But the gun’s punch is more than just a high-speed paintball. The "paintballs" can carry a powdered form of pepper spray, enabling officers to take down a suspect from up to 30 feet away.

Havoc,

An OT question for you. If I remember correctly, you're an Orinda resident. Is Laura Abrams up for re-election this year? Is there any way to stop the raving LLL wench if she is?

#162 Ann

Mine have stayed up now for over 2 weeks.

#162

I got my Bush Country sign on Monday. It looks good in my yard. I also have a 200 lb. Mastiff who will eat anyone who comes into the yard. So my sign is safe.

In my neighborhood a lot of the moonbats have put lights on there Skerry signs, so they can be seen at night. Of course it gets dark at like 630 these days.

#196 [Engineer]

You have to remember that, unlike the last election, Bush is President and has the full power of the Federal government behind him for at least 60 days after the election

On what basis?

#162 Ann

We put our signs out a couple of weeks ago and they are ALL still standing. Not only are they still standing, but many more neighborhood signs have shown up since and we'e have made some new friends. I've am seeing lawn signs being used in lieu of bumper stickers, proudly displayed in the back windows, in Washington State no less (many women drivers to boot). It's heatin up!

Go "W"!

#181 Ann
You must be a good shot if it's only a single shot.

215

This predictive map was made using the following assumptions.

- Voters who already have made a choice will stick to it
- The undecideds will break 2:1 for the challenger (Kerry)
.

Plus they are based on polls which the Dhimmis have been stuffing.

November 2nd is the only day that matters

If Kerry is hoping to transform the world's greatest democracy into just another state where control of the military determines who rules, so far so good. Orderly transfer of power is far more critical than which person has the office. But the Democrats have forgotten what preceded freedom and democracy.

I will not be ruled by Emperor Kerry.

I see Clinton is going to stand up with John Kerry in the next few days. I hope it actually cost Kerry votes.

Clinton did more damage to this Country than most people know. More information is coming out on how Clinton ignored intelligence reports on pending terrorist attacks.

As Clinton told a reporter not long ago, "The Truth will come out."

Yes indeed Billy Boy it sure will.

#215 Gordon

You can count on this - and if it doesn't happen I will renounce my party forever:

If Kerry wins fair and square, and in a landslide the like of which that site is predicting, on election night, Bush will graciously concede.

MSM folks tell it all.....
you can see in their faces, you can hear it in their voices. They hate bush but have NO enthusiasm for kerry. THEY will hold their noses and vote for the poodle and the shrill democraps will follow. There is NO heart present in their demeaner.

BUSH WILL WIN BIG........!

#31 cdbdbcme,

I'll volunteer. Who wants to be my Second?

GlobalVote 2004 "Where non-citizens get to vote"

www.technicola.com/globalvote2004/

Even if you are not a US citizen, the November 2 presidential election will have a huge impact on your life. The very idea of democracy requires that you should have a say in choosing who determines your destiny. This site therefore allows non-Americans to vote in the 2004 US presidential election.

GLOBALVOTE2004.ORG is totally neutral. You may vote for any candidate. Your vote will be kept secret. And you may only vote once.We will count the votes 48 hours before the election and submit the result to the US media. Just letting US citizens know how the world has voted could influence what looks like a tight race.

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#217 Lizard by the Bay; Havoc

I'm in Fairfield - if either of you can figure out a way for me to stop Ellen Tauscher, I'd be grateful - or has she moved to center now that they've re-districted her to encompass Travis AFB?

I saw a map of the U.S. that had Bush with 867 electoral votes. It was on [Link: www.imustmakeshitupbecausemyguysucks.com...]

#224 Kragar: You are of course correct, except for the "polls the Dhimmis have been stuffing," I don't think the electoral-vote guy uses polls like Charles LGF one for his analysis. The "undecideds break 2:1 for the challenger is based upon a mountain of past evidence, but that doesn't mean it will necessarily happen this time.

But I repeat my question: LGF'ers are alarmed that Kerry and the Dems might try to steal an election after they lost on election day. Does anyone see the alternative possibility? Would it be cheered on the LGF (small d) democrats?

#193 Thom

Well, that report should definitely have them crapping in their pants!

Me, too! It's the scariest gun that I have ever shot. Family heirloom.

#203 JWM

electric wires to the yard sign. Kind of a like a moonbat zapper.

I'll put up the Christmas lights early... great idea! -:)

#204 nimslight
Just one of many Estrofest Sistahs!

This is all silly season stuff- on November 3 I will be back to say OK we overreacted.

Bush is poised for a solid victory. Stay calm vote and speak your minds. the Republicans have teams ready to fight back. No one is stealing anything American is still America.

Kerry is weak and fading. Clinton is silent to support his wife's aspirations in in '08.

#208 joeblow

Mr. Havoc, it seems, waxes nostalgic for lynching.

I'm beginning to understand why this place has the reputation it does.

Nice Dowdification. Will you being doing your Krugman impersonation next?

#221

The new president doesn't take office until inauguration day.....in January

November 2, while everyone is partying to the mocking sounds of The Black Eyed Peas, "Let's get it started" every loser democrat will be crying, "Didn't you see the polls? Didn't you see the quagmire? Didn't you hear Dan Rather said that Kerry won?"

No I didn't see that, now can you throw me a beer and get off my lawn, thanks!

#220 JimInMpls

Gosh, maybe there will be an electrical malfunction. Well, who knows what might happen next...;)

OT -- Liberals Split on Israel

I don't know if anyone's posted this, but its important. Martin Peretz, editor-in-chief of the liberal bible The New Republic, takes Kerry to task for his flip-flopping on Israel, Palestine and Arafat. Kerry has no position. He just blows in the wind. Peretz is especially pissed off because of Kerry's ridiculous proposals to send people like Jimmy Carter back to negotiate a new 'roadmap to nowhere.'

Peretz quotes someone who researched and found that the Bush administration "has been far more involved than any previous administrations in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and has courageously presented the two sides with practical objectives and demands."

Kerry the Clueless

I think that if Bush wins by one vote, it will be Martin Peretz's.

#233

Funny, I was referring to the list of online polls (CNN, FOX, ABC, plus several dozen other sites) hosted as DU and a several other leftwing site, with instructions on how to set up bots to vote and the refresh rates of how often you can vote, just so they can push up Kerry's numbers.

#236 jrdroll

I'm enjoying the entertainment!

Gordon, your Votemeister is using the erroneous assumption that 2/3’s of the undecided will vote for Kerry. This is unsubstantiated by the very nature of the name of the group “undecided”. You might have better luck in 2008 though.

cnn is reporting bill(the meaning of is is)flinton is making an appearence with kerry in Philly tomorrow. I think they tommorrow, anyway if they are using him in Philly this late kerry has BIG troubles with his base....

Carolina Girl:

Are you really in Fairfield? Hubby's paperwork comes out of Travis. We have to go up there to outprocess in a while.

Pat Cadell, Dem pollster

undecideds break 2:1 for the challenger

states that is totally false. If still undecided at that late date, says Cadell, they stick with what they know.

#221 scotsilv

On what basis?

Because he is still president until the new president takes office in Jan. Until then, the new guy has no power at all.

#131

the Nick,Jr parents poll still has the President ahead 56% to 41%

Also, when I was lurking at aLLL blog, I noticed the call to go to Nick skew the count.

#206 Zombie

Considering some of the game YOU'VE bagged,

I think I'll stick to "old reliable" Remington Modell 700

Besides,

The scenery where I hunt is way better

than where You like to hunt, moonbat terrain

Actually, the undecideds break for challengers 2:1 in House Races, for the president its much more even. Plus, the MSM keeps telling us there are no undecideds. What the hell am I suppose to believe?

As the time draws near to Kerry being bounced-the-f**k outta here, the losers are on the war path.

I have a brother in Iraq . . .

I used to be a Republican . . .

I went to every college and majored in every subject . .

I'm smarter than you . . .

I support my troops, but i don't support their right to choose to VOLUNTEER to serve in a war THEY think is right . . .

I was for Afghanistan but . . .

Hey liberals, go get your unemployment check, give your parents half the money for letting you live with them, get your G.E.D., and then go out and get a job and try to be part of the American dream and not some anarchist, Fatguygut 911lbs wannabe! W 04!

if you are in Michigan and did not get your voter registration card in the mail go to this site to see if you are on the list.

I also look to see if my dead family members are on the voter list

[Link: 65.42.175.110...]

what is really scary about the future of the US as a true democratic constitutional Republic, if kerry wins, is that the Senate is almost in Demonrat hands now, with a slim Republican majority offset by closet Dems like Chafee, Snowe and Specter.

So kerry may well get to appoint a solid majority on the Supreme Court which will ensure that any election that does not copmply with the will of the Demonrat Socialists will be nullified.

At that point, I'd sincerely hope for a military coup to restore this nation to power. But the Demonrats have many top people at the Pentagon, so even that may not save us from a true Marxist state.

I'm convinced the true Democrat party is now essentially Marxist.

#69 andrewh

Your simple minded Trash will be burned on this site.

actually... Gordon... if on the evening of 3 November there is a close but clear Kerry victory I will be shocked and appalled if the president does not concede that night. I believe he loves his country more than he loves living in D.C.. I think Kerry will concede a close but clear victory too. I think McAuliffe and the dem power brokers want to be back in power. I think the republican power broker types do as well, but I think Bush has the stones to tell them "too bad, we'll get them next time, I'm not trashing the place."

If it really is too close to call, then thats what the damn courts are for. And either side would be stupid to not be ready for the possibility.

I will be here election night. Drop by.

The fact that so much light is being shed on the way elections are conducted is a VERY GOOD THING for the country (and not such a good thing for the democrats, who have in this century benefitted far more than republicans from the fact that no one was able to really pay attention to what went on on election day down in every ward...

#162

I posted on another thread a note from my mother whose Bush/Cheney sign was torn up and thrown in a ditch and the pole broken in half. My cousins in Indiana also had their sign destroyed and they are afraid to replace it. My mom and dad replaced theirs, and reported the incident to the police, and the local Republican party.

We had so many requests for signs at a rally a couple of weeks ago, we ran out of them in two hours and many people said their signs were repeatedly stolen.

I have had Bush/Cheney bumper stickers on my car for weeks and very large signs in my windows. No negative incidents, though I have been getting odd looks from some people. Just two days ago at the post office, I saw a van with Bush/Cheney slogans painted in huge letters in most of the windows. We gave each other the mutual thumbs up.

I cannot remember an election like this and I hold the Democratic party almost entirely responsible. It is not Republicans who are raiding party headquarters, it is Democrats. It is Democrats who are beating up people, breaking bones, and terrorizing senior citizens who are doing their civic duty.

All the Dhimmicrats have to say is apocryphal tales of voter suppression by Republicans and virtually no evidence, but Dhimmicrats are paying for votes in crack cocaine, for God's sake!

John Kerry is an evil bastard and I sincerely hope he loses big on election night. I cannot recall thinking a candidate for President was truly evil before, but this power mad thug certainly is.

It's too bad we can't just put Bush and Kerry up to a ball game to settle the matter. We all know who would win that one.

The Democrats' plans to steal this election is one big reason why I don't pay too much attention to the polls. Stolen votes don't show up in advance polling.

Advance polling on the eve of the 2000 election showed Bush up by 2% to 4%, and some pollsters privately speculated that Bush might win by 5% or more. But when the final vote was tallied Bush supposedly lost the popular vote.

And they've been at it longer and harder this time than they were in 2000. Every single state has multitudes of mysterious first time registrants registering Democrat. I think it's going to be ugly the night of November 2.

havoc

gets my vote, .308/185g hpbt, glass bed stock, 36X leopold, harris mini pod, flash down muzzle cover

#253 ed moran LGF weather czar

So kerry may well get to appoint a solid majority on the Supreme Court

You think Bush had trouble finding 60 votes in the Senate you ain't seen nothing yet.

#36 G.Galvan,

The Leftist Moonbats will riot, and the Right will have to meet them. Street-level warfare (i.e. shootings, fire-bombings and the like) would seem inevitable. It could well go beyond that.

John Fuckin' sKerry is willing to risk sparking a Civil War to win the Presidency.

Think about that for a minute. Even Jefferson Davis didn't try to declare himself President of the United States.

Blue States want to Secede, fine.

Fuck 'em.

Let 'em go. We keep the military and the Flag (they don't like the Flag much, anyway).

They want to try a coup de tat, well, I for one never signed the Geneva Convention. We can play street warfare. No problemo.

BTDT.

Like I said on the other thread, they want to play the Blue and the Grey Red, well, I can go there too.

sKerry needs to back down now.

Well, even the dogs are voting early.

#215 Nodrog

Nice try. Your link has had OH for Kerry for sometime, however, it seems to be based on some heavily partisan polls. Zogby had Kerry +1 in Ohio based on 700 likely voters, where as the local Columbus Dispatch had Bush +7 based on +2100 registered voters (state wide) as of 3 October. Don't care what your link or Zogby says, Ohio is going to be a red state. As the EU media is quoting Zogby, it will make GWB's victory even sweeter this side of the Atlantic.

Follow up to my last post. I just got this note from my mom on email:'

"Notice when I left, this afternoon, the Bush sign was down again, but it looked as if it had just slipped down the stake. It was still up-right. Since I was on my way to an appointment, thought I would fix it when I got back home. Got back home and noticed the sign looked different. Someone had not only nailed it back to the top, they had added a Goode for Congress (a Republican) sign to the bottom !! Ya just never know around here.
MA"

Sometimes, life is Goode!

engineer

you owe me a new laptop guy......

/laughter off-wiping up coffee spill

#256 armytramp

"It is Democrats who are beating up people, breaking bones, and terrorizing senior citizens who are doing their civic duty."

Um, can we perhaps have a few specifics? You know, like "where, when, what happened..."

Don't mean to be pesky. Just curious.

Dusty Road guy, I linked to it yesterday, anti-Bush groups have already succeeded in registering over 100% of the eligible voters in Philadelphia to vote.

If wonder what the actual numbers are that kerry still has to visit PA despite massive demonrat fraud.

BTW, I suspect a kerry administration might bring back the "Fairness Doctrine", any media station that boradcasts a show of a certain political orientation has to give equal time to the opposition.

So your standard talk radio station that broadcasts 2 hours of Beck, 3 hours of Limbaugh, 3 hours of Hannity and 3 hours of Savage would have to find 15 hours for "Air America" type broadcasting. I suspect "Savage" would be the first to go, no huge loss, but a kerry administration might also demand equal time slots, so perhaps Hannity is on at 11 pm or some other unreasonable hour, if not cancelled altogether to avoid putting on an unprofitable equal time liberal talk show.

Maybe the "Fairness Doctrine" will apply to the internet. Every hit LGF or National Review receives, it must redirect to Kos or Atrios if they are not receiving equal traffic.

Of course, the "Fairness Doctrine" won't apply to the MSM, because they are already fair and unbiased.

Except Fox, of course.

I think the understandable degree of Republican partisanship has caused many here to miss something important:
As we have documented here many times, the seriously radical left has been whipping itself up for a violent showdown for years, and it is going to happen regardless of who wins the election.

If Bush wins, the subculture we have come to know and loathe as "the moonbats" (mumia-cong conformists, blackshirt thugs, communists, and campus jihad sympathizers, among others) will take to the streets immediately.
If Kerry wins, the uprising will be delayed until next year, and may be all the worse for being based on dashed hope, irrational though that is.
For example, Kerry could easily enrage the moonbats by not running up a white flag in Iraq or Afghanistan, by not abandoning Israel to the Eurabian terrorist hordes, and by not turning Bush and others over to some kind of international kangaroo court of Islamo-Marxist media shills.
Their last hope will be gone, and the years of incitement and increasingly strident rhetoric will finally translate to action.

#255 vtrtl

I will be here election night. Drop by.

LOL. So will everyone else ...

Those four threads per debate night? Gonna be nothin' compared to election night.

#223 cdbdbcme

You must be a good shot if it's only a single shot.

30-40 Krags have five shot magazines. I entered NRA .22 range competitions as a teenager, but those days are long gone!
I'm glad that your signs weren't messed with... this neighborhood has a lot of friendly people, so it should be okay.

#265

Huntington, WV and Knoxville, TN are where GOP offices have been shot at. If you do not live in a cave you should know that AFL-CIO Kerry supporters have assaulted GOP offices all over the United States, including my home town. Most of the voter fraud (about 90%) has been by Democrats, including the case where they paid someone in crack to register voters.

ed

difficult to predict the fairness thing.....most of the corporate heads of media outlets payed only lip service to its demise because the economics worked in their favor at the time.....nobody was watching or listening to the 'otherside' programs and ratings were in the tank.

Just think it odd that clinton/kerry would go to philly...

BTW....cheney's daughter (not mary) the other on fox now

JRDroll

Assuming the Dems don't pick up a few seats. Remember, there are 3 Republican Senators who almost always vote Dhimmi when it counts, and 2 more (McCain and Hagel) who can't be trusted 100%

Of course, the other thing is, the MSM hasn't cared that the Dhimmi minority in the Senate has blocked votes on Bush's nominees, but they will surely scream if Republicans try to return the favor.

#228 Dust Road Guy

"MSM folks tell it all.....
you can see in their faces, you can hear it in their voices. They hate bush but have NO enthusiasm for kerry. THEY will hold their noses and vote for the poodle and the shrill democraps will follow. There is NO heart present in their demeaner.

BUSH WILL WIN BIG........! "

I don't know if the will pull the lever for Kerry. Dennis Prager was interviewing the editor of New Republic today, Marty Peretz. He announced the New republic was going to endorse *shudder* Kerry for prez. He "said" he was going to cast his vote for Kerry, but was not happy with him. Not a bit. He basically said, if Kerry wins the future Isreal is at risk. He didn't think Kerry would use the veto in the UNSC to protect Israel. He's a jew.

I think this guy is gonna pull the lever for Bush when he is in that "private place". It was really creepy. He seemed "very afraid".

Not only do I think Bush will win big, but I believe there will be many relieved folks in the MSM when he does. Just a feeling. Remember, they can't suppot Bush. Could you imagine if Katie Couric said tomorrow, "Ya know, Kerry's a nut and I'm voting for Bush".

back later.

Carolina Girl -

Start in Lafayette, Moraga, Orinda (the golden Triangle) for fund raisers

Then work Travis AFB and vicinity very thoroughly, for support

Neutralizer her in Concord and Martinez by promising to out pork Miller,

Then move on to Danville San Ramon and promise lower taxes,

Finish in Walnut Creek by promising Federal Funds for the Arts and the Schools.

Just remember Steve Martins advice "First get a million dollars, Got that ? O.K. then ...."

#269 Ann

Our neighbors are nice too. In fact, we have 5 Bush/Cheney signs on our street. It's not my neighbors I'm worried about though, but those driving through.

We have a great time going to the NRA range in Fairfax. Even got a .22 rifle with red dot sight for our girls to shoot so they can exercise their rights.

#181 Ann,

You should try an M-60 some time. They are a lot of fun. I burned a 100 round belt through one last time I went to Knob Creek. Low recoil, fairly accurate (it ain't designed to be used as a sniper rifle :-) , but I wish the load-out had had a tracer every fifth round or so.

After the first twenty-five rounds or so, you can't really see the target for the smoke :-)