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Another Virulent Outbreak of Bush Derangement Syndrome

Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 4:51:59 pm PDT

A banner headline for a Rick Perlstein article in The Village Voice hits a depraved new low even for them, strikingly similar to the blood libel propaganda directed at Israel by Arab countries. (Hat tip: william.)

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1 fat.elvis  10/20/04 2:53:04 pm reply quote

OT

{sigh}
[Link: www.electoral-vote.com...]
W...T...F?

2 Lizard by the Bay  10/20/04 2:54:16 pm reply quote

I would have to say that civility has finally, once and for all, left the political left.

Except of course that happened a year ago thanks to Dean. Now it's just a contest to see who can be more depraved.

3 the poetess  10/20/04 2:54:44 pm reply quote

No surprises from the VV
They are all ole lefties.

4 Gordon  10/20/04 2:54:45 pm reply quote

I don't like Bush very much, but this is ridiculous.

5 reason  10/20/04 2:55:08 pm reply quote

Nice painting of BushHitler!

/

6 Lizard by the Bay  10/20/04 2:55:49 pm reply quote

#1

That map is crap. Florida went HEAVY for Jeb in 2002. No WAY they're going for sKerry in 2004.

7 cdbdbcme  10/20/04 2:56:06 pm reply quote

that is absolutely disgusting

8 Howling Cat  10/20/04 2:56:30 pm reply quote

He can bite my neck any time.

9 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  10/20/04 2:58:49 pm reply quote

The Voice is an unspeakable hate-rag, with the most vicious propaganda out there.

Go, Georgie, Go!

"He who does not punish evil commands it to be done."
--Leonardo da Vinci

10 Catttt  10/20/04 2:59:12 pm reply quote

Well, as a huge Jean-Claude fan (one Frenchman I'd love to be friends with), the vamp thing just doesn't have the impact on me the VV obviously wanted.

11 fat.elvis  10/20/04 2:59:15 pm reply quote

#6

I agree. Florida has to be in the bag. And Ohio's looking good. I think RealClearPolitics' stuff is way more reliable.

If Kerry wins, my fundamental gut feeling about America will be shattered.

12 Techie  10/20/04 2:59:38 pm reply quote

#1

That website changes their tune about every other day.

I give it slim to none in terms of credit.

13 channeling the shah  10/20/04 3:00:39 pm reply quote

hey, at least it's merely the symbol of america's freedom who's neck he's biting, not little babies like i guessed they would've depicted. the depth of their bizzare, irrational hatred for bushitler knows no bottom......

btw, #1, whole lotta liberties taking on that electoral college count, looks like something drawn up by a pol sci professor at yale -- as public enemy would counsel "don't believe the hype." check out realclearpolitics.com, there isn't one poll on the whole site that mirrors these results, quite the opposite, actually.

channeling the shah

14 steve  10/20/04 3:01:31 pm reply quote

#1 fat.elvis electrol-vote is a democratic site. Need any more be said.
Bush sucking on a statue that was made in France. Interesting to say the least but it looks more like someone at The Village Voice forgot to take their medication for a few days.

15 joe_surfs35  10/20/04 3:01:52 pm reply quote

*ROTFLMAO*

And these are the people who just finished posting about Kerry's "coup d'etat" plans!

16 mbruce  10/20/04 3:02:08 pm reply quote

Has it goten as ugly as it's going to get?I doubt it.These people are pitiful,actively cherring for a communist takeover of the USA,and they will go even further I fear into the abyss that they want us all to fall into.We must not let these rat-ass LLL fiends drag us down.

17 vtsurgeon  10/20/04 3:02:11 pm reply quote

Can anyone possibly, possibly take this seriously? Even the looniest of the lunar flying mice must look at this, and find it a bit trop.

Vermont de la Frontera

18 Jagster  10/20/04 3:03:07 pm reply quote

#6 Lizard by the Bay

Agree with you about W winnning Florida. Go Bush!

19 TotallySirius  10/20/04 3:03:10 pm reply quote

Now that article was a rambling piece of drivel
Just another example of the desperation of the radical left.

20 Sentinel Talos  10/20/04 3:03:49 pm reply quote

That's the funny thing about Kerry and his fan base. No matter what low they stoop to, you just know they can stoop even lower.

21 SoDamnInsane  10/20/04 3:04:01 pm reply quote

I actually enjoy watching the left's slide into complete derangement. It's a good thing that I enjoy it, too, since I live in San Francisco.

22 Sam I Am  10/20/04 3:04:08 pm reply quote

I'm not surprised...Kerry and the Democrats are running scared.

Get ready folks, the worst is yet to come...

23 Max Darkside  10/20/04 3:04:18 pm reply quote
blood libel propaganda

ummm, I thought it was kind of humorous.

#1 fat.elvis

Electoral-Vote has lost my confidence and here's why:

1) In the beginning, projection maps were solidly Bush
2) then he took them off his site, claiming they had too much noise, but yet they were consistent and the projections were based on a 90 day moving average and by doing so, did wonders to negate the noise he was complaining about.
3) then he changed the projections to based on 30 day moving averages, which immediately tipped them to Kerry
4) then he changed them AGAIN to the current scheme which is substantially based on gross assumptions (voters have already decided, undecideds will break 2:1 for Kerry, Nader and All_Others will get 1% each, etc.)

Anything reasonable went out the window.

24 steve  10/20/04 3:04:53 pm reply quote

Check out the AOL Straw Poll
[Link: electionguide04.com...]

25 Crusader  10/20/04 3:05:05 pm reply quote

#15 joe:

Have you enjoyed your stay here?

If there's anyone you'd like to jot off a short note to, *now* might be a good time to do so. I have a feeling you might not have the opportunity to do so if you save it for another day.

26 militarybrat  10/20/04 3:05:28 pm reply quote

Oh, thats...lovely. Umm, right up there with SHIT SCULPTURES. And crucifixes swimming in the pee of a dehydrated idiot. And performance art involving inspecting someone's vagina while they are onstage.

When I took my public relations stuff and worked PR for some political campaigns they crammed it down our throat EVERY DAY that you do not show depraved crap like that - even if you fee that strongly about something it turns off people you want to come to your side.

27 Desso Studios  10/20/04 3:05:58 pm reply quote

OT

Check it out:

UN-Happy Valentines Day 2005

28 It's Miss Donna V. to you  10/20/04 3:06:22 pm reply quote

I have never seen an election in my lifetime the other side deserved to lose more than this one.

BTW: I was up at 4 this morning and slept very badly last night, so I dozed off on the sofa about an hour and a half ago. I dreamt that Bush lost and the dream was so vivid that when I woke I thought for a few seconds that it was the morning of the 3rd and Kerry was president. I was relieved to realize that that was not the case.

I don't believe in the ""dreams are omens" crap, because I'm prone to dreaming about horrifying things that never occur (like being chased by someone with a gun, which is a recurring motif). So I don't see any special portent here.

However, if I start dreaming I'm being chased by Kerry with a gun, I may start to lose it. The only reassuring thing about such a dream would be that he would probably be crawling on his belly, the same way he hunts deer, so I'd have a pretty good chance of escape!

29 Max Darkside  10/20/04 3:06:29 pm reply quote

correction:

90 day moving average

I meant to say 90 day regression line, but my point is unchanged and is still valid

30 piglet  10/20/04 3:07:11 pm reply quote

Good thing Bush isn't Jewish, or this would be a blood libel and hate speech. :-( :-)

31 Lyana  10/20/04 3:07:19 pm reply quote

Lovely. Yet another addition to the gallery of unhinged, fear-mongering propaganda.

Not entirely OT
Found this via a link at The Voloka Conspiracy. Here's one part that struck me as interesting:

Extreme conservatives were much less likely to report being mad at someone every day in the last week--7.3% to 24.2% for extreme liberals. Extreme conservatives were also less likely to report being fearful in the last week--32.5% to 56.3% for extreme liberals. In other words, a staggering one-quarter of extreme liberals report being mad at someone EVERY DAY and most extreme liberals report being fearful at least once a week.
32 Jheka  10/20/04 3:07:22 pm reply quote

#1 fat.elvis:

Assumption #2 is the sticking point. If you really believe that undecided voters will split 2 to 1 for Kerry then yeah, that might be right. I wouldn't make that assumption in this election cycle, though. I think that Bush will carry Florida comfortably, thanks in part to the reverse coattails of Mel Martinez, who is in a close race for the Senate vs. Betty Castor and will get the conservative Latino vote out for Bush. Based on that map, if Bush takes Florida and either Ohio OR Pennsylvania OR New Jersey OR Michigan OR Wisconsin combined with either Iowa, New Mexico or Oregon, Bush wins.

Relax. 13 days is a long time and there will be bombshells dropping before its all over. Remember the drunk driving bombshell onthe eve of the 2000 election? It wouldn't have been close but for that. I'm sure that there will be surprises this time around as well.

33 LarryW2LJ  10/20/04 3:07:27 pm reply quote

The next thing that the LLL is going to say is that Bush piloted the planes on 9/11 and the guy in office is a clone.

Can these idiots get a life?

34 Beagle  10/20/04 3:07:44 pm reply quote

I have already made peace with a legally elected President Kerry. If it happens, it happens. But the Democrats are giving me no reason to think they honor law, stability, and electoral democracy as much as I do.

If the powers that be think somehow the United States is inherently above the instability which has marked human history, they are wrong. If they bring us that instability, after their AFL-CIO goons have been dispatched, they will rue the day they gave up on the founding principles of this nation.

35 Lawrence Schmerel  10/20/04 3:08:34 pm reply quote

George looks very handsome in that painting. It is flattering. IMHO.

36 Cornholio  10/20/04 3:08:55 pm reply quote

Vampires Rock!

(I bet we can convince the LLL to start dousing themselves in garlic.)

37 Dar ul Harbarian  10/20/04 3:09:06 pm reply quote

So much for the stiffling of dissent and clamping down on freedom of speech.

38 paul in Va  10/20/04 3:09:39 pm reply quote

Mmmm...Lady Liberty...

/Homer Simpson

And next time, France, why not make a statue that doesn't turn green, you cheap bastards.

39 foreign devil  10/20/04 3:09:51 pm reply quote

Whoever the illustrator is, he has made Bush's eyes too compassionate for the business of biting into the flesh of Lady Liberty. Look at the eyes and even the mouth (not the teeth part). The artist probably used a photograph of Bush and Bush has very compassionate eyes and mouth. Not viscious which he should have in order to make them agree with what he's supposed to be doing.

40 SwampWoman  10/20/04 3:10:26 pm reply quote

The news around the smaller counties in Florida is how many people are switching from Democrat to Republican in order to vote in the city and county elections. Used to be you had to be registered Dem to vote in the primaries. Now often there are only Republicans running. There's a good reason for that. Democrats are rarely being elected.

41 Jheka  10/20/04 3:10:50 pm reply quote

#30 Piglet:

I was discussing religion with a Muslim Pakistani cab driver the other day. He was shocked to learn that America had never had a Jewish President and even more surprised to discover that Dick Cheney isn't Jewish. No, I'm not kidding.

42 jrdroll  10/20/04 3:11:01 pm reply quote

#30 piglet

Good thing Bush isn't Jewish, or this would be a blood libel and hate speech.


Well BusHitler is controlled by the jewish neo-con cabal don't ya know.

43 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  10/20/04 3:14:16 pm reply quote

#13 channeling the shah

Yeah, there's a picture pasted on a mailbox a few miles my house (in San Francisco) that shows Sharon eating babies.

Ironically its right across the streed from a sign declaring the neighborhood to be "A hate free zone" But the small print says that we don't tolerate descrimination against Muslims, but doesn't say a word about discrimination against Jews - despite the sign it's next to.

44 Dr. Sanity  10/20/04 3:14:31 pm reply quote

This picture demonstrates a classic psychological defense mechanism called PROJECTION. Those who would "suck democracy dry" are the ones whose brains came up with that thoroughly disgusting picture. The complete lack of self-awareness and insight into their own behavior is truly incredible. They prefer to destroy this country rather than contemplate the possibility of losing the election.

45 Buckaroo  10/20/04 3:14:39 pm reply quote

# 41 J

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Wow, and we think our schools are bad!
:-)
:-)

46 TalkinKamel  10/20/04 3:15:35 pm reply quote

Talk about "projection". . .

47 Dar ul Harbarian  10/20/04 3:15:44 pm reply quote

#31

Interesting.

Who is the party of Fear and Loathing?

48 SwampWoman  10/20/04 3:15:47 pm reply quote

Anybody remember that ol' movie "Love at First Bite"? Maybe Rummy has a couple pointed incisors as well. Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

49 Lyana  10/20/04 3:15:49 pm reply quote

#20 Sentinel Talos

I just got this image of JFK and co. in a DNC limbo contest.

"How low can you go?"

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!

50 Occasional Reader  10/20/04 3:15:53 pm reply quote
strikingly similar to the blood libel propaganda directed at Israel by Arab countries.

Er, look, I think the message is dumb and the artwork is juvenile, but... blood libel? Come on. So is any representation of Dracula "strikingly similar" to the classic anti-Semitic blood libel? Let's keep our powder dry here, folks.

51 Buckaroo  10/20/04 3:16:34 pm reply quote

# 49 L

Is there such a thing as subterrean limbo?
:-)

52 efuseakay  10/20/04 3:17:12 pm reply quote

If you all think that stupid cartoon is bad, check this out:

[Link: www.vvaw.org...]

53 jimann  10/20/04 3:17:40 pm reply quote

OT:

Millions of dollars are being raised by both parties to pay the lawyers IF? the election is contested.

Are they kidding? The lawyers are all drooling to get their hands on the millions.

Of course the election will be contested and I feel certain it will be a zoo.

Jimmy Carter will be doing handstands trying to get the UN to supervise our elections.

He'll probably want the most Democratic country on the planet "IRAN???" to send supervisors.

The LLL is really showing their true colors this year... RED!

54 QueenEsther  10/20/04 3:17:51 pm reply quote

#28 Donna V. -
I had a recurring nightmare that woke me up 3 or so times and resumed where it left off five days BEFORE 9-11. I believe it was an omen - it had a visual message with 2 long/tall sets of pairs in it, and a note that said "I tried to warn you." I am not sh*tting you. I also had a bad/warning dream before the anthrax attacks.

13 days to go, but I've been sleeping like a baby lately.

55 thinkingmom  10/20/04 3:17:52 pm reply quote

It's just that the LLLs LOVE democracy so much, that they're forced to lie and cheat and use Nazi-level propaganda to convince voters to vote Kerry. You know, you've got to destroy democracy in order to save it...

56 ontevreden aubergine  10/20/04 3:18:25 pm reply quote

Now let me get this straight. This guys administration is responsible for over 1,000 American deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan and everyone's getting worked up over this rag's picture? You've got to be kidding. You're lucky Lady Liberty is not getting raped.

57 Chuck Pelto  10/20/04 3:19:55 pm reply quote

TO: Charles Johnson
RE: They ARE...

...working themselves up into a frenzy, aren't they.

I wonder what they will do when they lose? I suspect they'll go, literally, ballistic.

Especially if Kerry's campaign goes ahead with its plans to claim victory early on. I can hear the cries in the street, as the protests are already planned, "Bush stole the election!"

Regards,

Chuck(le)

58 joe_surfs35  10/20/04 3:20:03 pm reply quote

#25 Crusader

Is this your site?

59 golem akbar  10/20/04 3:20:35 pm reply quote

And I thought Bush was too dumb to do something like that. And where's the Star of David around the neck? The LLLs are sure feeling their cheerios when they say things like this. (oh wait, not Cheerios. Cheerios are Kosher)

60 ajackson  10/20/04 3:20:39 pm reply quote

It's called projection. Is it the Republicans or Democrats that are telling the disabled that they'll walk again if the right person gets elected? Who is making up stories about the draft to scare the youth vote? Who is making up stories about Social Security to scare the seniors? Who is telling the party faithful to complain to the press about intimidation even if it doesn't happen? Who is telling half his base that he's always been for the Iraq war, and the other half that he's always been against it? Who has teams of jets and lawyers standing by to litigate every single close contest and irreparably damage our electoral process? Who is handing out crack cocaine in order to get bogus voter registrations? Who is insulting our allies in order to score political points?

Now, who is it who will do anything to win?

61 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  10/20/04 3:20:49 pm reply quote

#1 ouch

[Link: www.electionprojection.com...]

neck and neck!!!

Bush 10 EV ahead, with 52 EV less than 2% for Bush

Only 17 of Kerry's projected wins are less than 2%.

62 Dr. Sanity  10/20/04 3:21:34 pm reply quote

#33 Larry...

Check out this painting. It left me speechless.

63 Investigations of a Dog  10/20/04 3:22:11 pm reply quote

OT (kinda)


Has anyone read Mark Steyn's letter of the week, from a Douglas A Amedeo of New York? To me, this perfectly illustrates how Kerry sees the little man (recalling his "I doubt anyone here earns $200,000" comment last week).

Kerry upsets congregation with his breath-taking arrogance

Yet, liberal or not, the parishioners of St. Mary's are apparently not too keen on Senator Kerry. Politics aside on this one. The animosity, an old parishioner explained to me, is due to the Senator's habit of relieving the old ushers of the collection basket and personally soliciting the offerings from the pews. Apparently the Senator does this whenever he attends.
64 mksmash  10/20/04 3:22:14 pm reply quote

#27 Desso Studios

LOL, but what happens when you click the picture. The traffic must have shut down the link.

mk

65 goldie3213  10/20/04 3:22:26 pm reply quote

OT
did anyone just watch Liz Cheney on O'Reilly

I thought she did outstanding. How hard it must of been to not stoop to the kerry level... because she sure had a lot of ammunition if she wanted to use it
Just goes to show the character of this administration and the lengths it will go to stay above board (no low blows)

66 Dar ul Harbarian  10/20/04 3:22:37 pm reply quote
Now let me get this straight. This guys administration is responsible for over 1,000 American deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan and everyone's getting worked up over this rag's picture? You've got to be kidding. You're lucky Lady Liberty is not getting raped.

How about "Only 1,000 American deaths"

For a campaign this large American casualties have been remarkably light by historical standards. Get a sense of perspective, troll.

67 SwampWoman  10/20/04 3:23:03 pm reply quote

#56

Woah! Lemme get this straight....American military casualties in 3 years of war are less than 7% of the amount of casualties that France lost in a couple weeks of hot weather. WOW!

68 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  10/20/04 3:23:41 pm reply quote

ontevreden aubergine it's too late for this (bullshit) I think I probably speak for the entire country when I say that we're burned out on arguements. That doesn't mean that we can't defend our position, only that after arguing for a couple of years YOU GET SO SICK OF IT.

I can't wait for this election to be over.

69 will_not_back_down  10/20/04 3:23:55 pm reply quote

Hmmmm. globalvote2004.org redirects but is owned by:

Domain ID:D104913741-LROR
Domain Name:GLOBALVOTE2004.ORG
Created On:21-Sep-2004 13:59:08 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Oct-2004 08:33:14 UTC
Expiration Date:21-Sep-2005 13:59:08 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Go Daddy Software, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-08175900
Registrant Name:nicolas roope
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street1:25 woodland drive
Registrant Street2:
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Registrant State/Province:Not Applicable
Registrant Postal Code:al40el
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Phone:+44.07775848138
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:nroope@yahoo.co.uk
Admin ID:GODA-28175900
Admin Name:nicolas roope
Admin Organization:
Admin Street1:25 woodland drive
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Admin City:st albans
Admin State/Province:Not Applicable
Admin Postal Code:al40el
Admin Country:GB
Admin Phone:+44.07775848138
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
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Admin Email:nroope@yahoo.co.uk
Tech ID:GODA-18175900
Tech Name:nicolas roope
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Tech Street1:25 woodland drive
Tech Street2:
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Tech Country:GB
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Name Server:NS1.THEBIGTRY.COM
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Nicolas Roope is anti-globalization conspirator:

The idea is to really make people think about how rich they are compared to the rest of the world," said Nicolas Roope, one of the site's creators. "In the West, we tend to obsess about celebrities and the super-rich. This is a really simple way to turn that on its head."

The site was created by Roope and several others from Poke, a London interactive media company.

Roope, 32, Poke's creative director, said the site was launched to coincide with this week's World Trade Organization summit in Cancun, Mexico, where, increasingly, poor countries are pitting themselves against rich. Key issues are cheap generic drugs for developing nations, an end to richer nations' huge farm subsidies, reshuffling of trade tariffs between rich and poor countries, and special economic concessions for developing nations.

The site uses figures from the World Bank's Development Research Group, which estimates that for the world's 6 billion people, average annual income is $5,000.


[Link: www.wired.com...]

So the ANTI-GLOBALISATION folks making effort to undermind the US election.

70 ontevreden aubergine  10/20/04 3:24:52 pm reply quote

#62 Dr. Sanity

Awesome. Sums it all up in one photo.

71 John Schneider  10/20/04 3:26:22 pm reply quote

#56 ontevreden aubergine

troll,

most folks here respect diverse opinions, but your comments are a bit over the top. Name the "liberties" which are being taken by the big, bad, Bush administration. The fact is, there haven't been any. Sure, it takes longer for you to get on your aircraft, but let's face it, you might be a little inconvenienced by the extra security, but no one ever said that you were going to be loaded onto a cattle car and shipped off to a death camp. Now if you would like to complain about civil liberties, I suggest you haul ass over to Iran and try protesting. You might get a nasty surprise.

72 SwampWoman  10/20/04 3:26:26 pm reply quote

#69 will_not

Yeppers. Because we all know that the world would be so much better off without US aid, contributions, etc.

73 ontevreden aubergine  10/20/04 3:26:29 pm reply quote

#67 Swampwoman

Last time I checked, the weather is not controlled by illegal corrupt governments. Yet.

74 will_not_back_down  10/20/04 3:26:54 pm reply quote

Follow up to really who Nicolas Roope is:

[Link: www.vi-r-us.com...]

75 Maine's Michael  10/20/04 3:27:42 pm reply quote

This is no way to run a zionist conspiracy.

We yids have to get our story straight. Are we left, or right? Communist, or fascist?

Count this footsoldier in the great conspiracy confused.

76 ontevreden aubergine  10/20/04 3:28:09 pm reply quote

#71

The Patriot Act.

'Nuff said.

77 SwampWoman  10/20/04 3:28:47 pm reply quote

Have y'all ever noticed that the people calling for "anti-globalization" are generally the ones that are not living in a subsistence economy and don't have to worry about whether their children will starve to death if the rains don't come this year?

Nope, they just like to keep all those little villagers living in quaint poverty all quaint and poverty stricken.

78 Lyana  10/20/04 3:29:35 pm reply quote

#51 Buckaroo

Hmmm.... Maybe an underwater limbo squad?

Oh great - now I've got some more REALLY unpleasant mental images to try to erase!

/madly scrubbing brain...

79 Occasional Reader  10/20/04 3:30:02 pm reply quote

#56:

This guys administration is responsible for over 1,000 American deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan

I have an even more shocking figure for you: the FDR administration was responsible for over 4,500 American deaths on the beaches of Normandy! Perhaps we should draw a cartoon of FDR leaping out of his wheelchair (due to a Native American blessing by John Kerry) and sodomizing the American Eagle!

You are one truly stupid human being.

80 justamomof4  10/20/04 3:30:51 pm reply quote

Here is a link to a list of polls and their results -
Bush is clearly winning in most - tied in Zogby, Pew and NBC/swj

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

81 Paul  10/20/04 3:30:58 pm reply quote

Remember, this is the Village Voice, a newspaper that thinks everyone living west of the Hudson River and east of San Francisco Bay is a hayseed or a nazi.

82 Dar ul Harbarian  10/20/04 3:31:05 pm reply quote

#76

Patriot Act?

Idiot.

83 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  10/20/04 3:31:59 pm reply quote

Kerry may be pulling this out in the clutch...

Ohhhh.

I hope there aren't too many "nuisances" over the next four years.

84 Crusader  10/20/04 3:32:15 pm reply quote

"The Patriot Act.

'Nuff said.


*rolls eyes*

Good God, this gets old.

Allright, step right up and tell us all how YOU, PERSONALLY, have been affected by the Patriot Act.

Don't bother with hypotheticals, don't bother with "I-know-a-friend-who-knows-this-guy-who..." type of BULLSHIT stories.

Tell us EXACTLY how YOU have been affected by the Patriot Act.

85 DocDublU  10/20/04 3:32:16 pm reply quote

#1

Don't know where the F they came up with their numbers. AZ 51-49 is so wrong! It's more like 55-45. Would Kerry pull all his people, cancel a Martin Sheen speech in Scottsdale originaly scheduled for this Friday, and pull all TV ads if the score was within the margin for error. These numbers are bogus. Period.

86 ontevreden aubergine  10/20/04 3:32:50 pm reply quote

#79

Iraq=WWII???

I won't even touch that one.

And you, my friend, are one of God's special creatures.

87 Desso Studios  10/20/04 3:33:45 pm reply quote

#64 mk

It's supposed to take you to georgebush.com - it worked for me a while ago.

btw - glad you noticed the sarcasm.

;-))

88 John Schneider  10/20/04 3:33:48 pm reply quote

#76 ontevreden aubergine

The Patriot Act.
'Nuff said.

No, troll. Not by a long shot. Name the civil liberties that have been violated by the Patriot Act. Don't be a little bomb thrower. Cite some facts. Otherwise you are just a troll.

C'mon. I know you can try to name just one....

89 newsjunkie_ky  10/20/04 3:34:09 pm reply quote

#76 ontevreden aubergine
"#71 The Patriot Act. 'Nuff said."

LOL, you twit, you didn't anwer John Schneider.

b>what civil liberty did you lose due to the Patriot Act?

90 Lyana  10/20/04 3:34:15 pm reply quote

#77 Swamp Woman

Too true.

Most of the rest of the world is too worried about surviving; that kind of rhetoric is the result of pampered elites with too much time to think and not enough to do.

91 Perpetual Student  10/20/04 3:35:49 pm reply quote

#26 militarybrat

Oh, thats...lovely. Umm, right up there with SHIT SCULPTURES. And crucifixes swimming in the pee of a dehydrated idiot.


C'mon, man; it's not as though this was created by an N.E.A. grant. I actually laughed out loud upon seeing the illustration. 'Course, I was primarily laughing at the kind of people who buy into this (how can you not laugh at a V.V. reader?), but the content is just plain silly as well.

92 ontevreden aubergine  10/20/04 3:36:18 pm reply quote

Why is it that this blog always degenerates into name calling, Charles? I thought this was one of them there "inteel-i-gent" blogs.

93 John Schneider  10/20/04 3:37:38 pm reply quote

#92 ontevreden aubergine

Why is it that this blog always degenerates into name calling, Charles? I thought this was one of them there "inteel-i-gent" blogs.

We are. And then you show up.

Gonna answer or whine?

94 Occasional Reader  10/20/04 3:37:38 pm reply quote

#86:

Iraq=WWII???

Why, no, child, there are differences. But they'd be tough to explain to someone whose mental capacity wrestles with the concept of the President being principally "responsible" for US combat deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq (if only Bush had instead walked OBL and Saddam through several choruses of kumbaya, there'd have been NO deaths, any thinking person knows that), and who thinks a juvenile agitprop painting of Bush and Cheney piloting an airplane full of dollars into the WTC is "really cool".

95 Crusader  10/20/04 3:38:05 pm reply quote

"Why is it that this blog always degenerates into name calling, Charles? I thought this was one of them there "inteel-i-gent" blogs.

Excuse me, but you've been asked by at least a half-dozen of us to explain EXACTLY how you've PERSONALLY been impacted by the Patriot act.

You can give an honest answer, or you can avoid the question and thus EARN your designation as a TROLL and an asshole.

96 SwampWoman  10/20/04 3:38:15 pm reply quote

Uh oh, #92 is an Education Major! When called to produce facts, immediately tries to appeal to a "higher authority" because it is getting picked on.

97 PostalWorker  10/20/04 3:39:07 pm reply quote

#76 ontevreden aubergine

SHitty answer dude. Try explaining exactly what liberties you are missing instead of laying out some bullshit talking point. Hell, that isn't even a talking point and a goddamn parrot could have said, "Patriot Act, RAWK!"

It would have been as convincing.

98 newsjunkie_ky  10/20/04 3:39:20 pm reply quote

Re: the troll in #86

whatever this troll is, it has no brain. Poor thing, let it go....

It is typical of a LLL/troll can never answer a question or back up its claims. Poor, poor, pitiful thing.

99 Blackeyed Pierce  10/20/04 3:39:34 pm reply quote

#36

Don't do that. It may disturb their mating process.

100 Dr. Sanity  10/20/04 3:40:08 pm reply quote

Occasional Reader - As I said before..they are clueless and completely unable to see their own pathology.

101 It's Miss Donna V. to you  10/20/04 3:40:29 pm reply quote

Here's a link that provides loads o' fun for the political junkie:

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

(Registration required)

The map as it stands is a load (what do you expect from the LA Times?) They have VA, LA, and AZ as tossup states, which they are not. But since it's interactive, you can try out different possible scenarios. As Jheka said, Bush can lose PA and OH and still win as long as he wins FL, WI, and IA. (Of course, if he does lose both, I'll be sweating bullets nonetheless). Jonah Goldberg mentioned on NRO yesterday that when he gave all the states where Kerry is leading to Kerry and all the "leans Bush" states to Bush (excepting IA and PA, which the LA Times shows as tied), Dubya won.

102 TalkinKamel  10/20/04 3:40:42 pm reply quote

#93 John Schneider

It's gonna whine, just like every other thread it pops up on.

103 John Schneider  10/20/04 3:40:44 pm reply quote

#96 SwampWoman

Uh oh, #92 is an Education Major! When called to produce facts, immediately tries to appeal to a "higher authority" because it is getting picked on.

I weep for the children if it is truly an Education Major.

104 Rayra  10/20/04 3:40:55 pm reply quote
#58 joe_surfs35 10/20/2004 05:20PM PST
#25 Crusader

Is this your site?

No, and unlike you, he recognizes that being a jeering little piece of shit is not a long-term survival strategy here.

105 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  10/20/04 3:40:57 pm reply quote

#86 ontevreden aubergine

Funny thing is that Ali Salem (Egypt's famous, if lonely, peace and democracy activist, and playwright and author) said that since the Baath party was modeled on Germany's Nazi party, he does consider the (second) Iraq war the last battle of WWII.

He also said that he was in favor of the Iraq war. And he said he considered it part of the war on terror, not because Saddam was directly involved with Al Qa'eda (though he was clearly directly involved in Hamas and some other terrorist groups), but because, as a Bedoin saying goes "you beat the dog to scare the lions".

Or as Wrechard pointed out, Iraq is a foothold. In WWII, America attacked Tunisia first. There is a strategy to war, and if you ignore the need for strategy you'll certainly lose.

106 jrdroll  10/20/04 3:41:32 pm reply quote

#92 ontevreden aubergine

Why is it that this blog always degenerates into name calling, Charles? I thought this was one of them there "inteel-i-gent" blogs.

Because sometimes trolls respond by posting drivel such as the post that appears below and act like they have defended their position you francophallic scumbag:


#76 ontevreden aubergine 10/20/2004 05:28PM PST
#71

The Patriot Act.

'Nuff said.

107 Occasional Reader  10/20/04 3:41:43 pm reply quote

#98 newsjunkie_ky:

whatever this troll is, it has no brain.

Of course it doesn't. An "aubergine" is a vegetable.

'night all.

108 joel2  10/20/04 3:41:49 pm reply quote

Hey, it if it wasn't for that stooopid Revolutionary War, W would never have been able to get this far. Damn Revolution!

/jhimmi off.

109 Rayra  10/20/04 3:42:55 pm reply quote
#67 SwampWoman 10/20/2