Tiny minority =99.9%

Bring it, mother fucker...ummmm, can I say mother fucker?

it's not really that specific, tho.. so don't take it personally...

Only good terroist, is a very dead, rotting in the sun, dirt licking, terroist.

New bumper sticker...
"Islam - it's to die for."

Ever notice that the guys that say this crap NEVER seem to go fight and die themselves?

Flippin' cowards.

Come closer to Allah through the blood of infidels

See? It's a hideous death cult driven by human sacrifice.

6 stanlef

Ever notice that the guys that say this crap NEVER seem to go fight and die themselves?

True, that's why we are bringing the fight to them, and must, must continue to do so.

Well, dying for ones religon is always the right thing to do, as long as its Abu Hugsassa

"Ask the infidel imam"

Q. In keeping with the tenents of Ramadan, may we only conduct jihad operations after sunset and before sunrise?
A. Inshallah, absolutely in honor of Mohamed's (PBUH) special month.
P.S. Unless you are attacking Jews, then it's OK in the daytime
P.P.S. Or Christians, in which it can be done in the daytime also
P.P.P.S. Daytime attacks against the filthy polythesits are fine too
P.P.P.P.S. How could I forget -- let the bullets fly during the day against those Shia apostates as well!

/too close to the truth

My grandparents, my parents and even I have paid taxes to build the best, strongest deterent against our worst enemy attacking us. They're called I.C.B.M.s and have multiple independent re-entry vehicles (aka several nukes). Well we've come to terms with Moscow, & we haven't tested any of these relics for a while, how about picking a random major city in the midle east and see if our theories about the life cycle phase of the weapon is correct. After all, it's our money they are spending, we have a right to know it was well spent.

Somewhat OT, from Iraq the Model:

Iraqi imams try "get out the vote" strategy for the upcoming elections...

Today, Ahmed Al Safi, a senior aide of Ayatollah Sistani announced (link in Arabic) that “Those who don’t participate in the elections will end up in hell” and he added in his speech “we must bear the responsibility and we must all participate in the elections because it’s a patriotic duty and not doing so is like treason”

(emphasis added)

Shhh, Ahmed! Don't give Kerry any ideas!

10 song_and_dance_man

North Korea, Iran, China, Palestinian Authority, Malaysia, Spain, France, Germany, Vietnam;

Ahhh yes, the coalition of the 'u.n. bribed and u.n. coerced'.

Well, if they want to spill infidel blood in Iraq, they're going to have to deal with these guys. Who says we're alone in Iraq?

and to smite the perverts and the obstinate...”

They want Allah to smite themselves?

It's akmost Halloween and I was wondering: What do the Muslims dress up as? Infidels? Wouldn't that be great? They would off eachother. Maybe some will dress up as C4 and blow themselves to mussibits for realism. Allah chunks.

I wait for justice (not unless your a muslim or a leftist wako /
communtist democrat)

I wait for peace (muslims start more wars as they now believe they
can obliterate all of us)

I wait for kindness (muslims only give us hate)

I wait for life (all we see from muslims is death)

I wait for purity (all we see from islam is filth)

I wait for women to be treated right
(All is see from muslims is to rape their captives before decapitating them)

I wait for children to be allowed to live in peace
(all we see from islam are children being raped, molested then blown up)

I wait for the hostages to be released
(all we see from islam are headless corpses)

I wait for some sign of hope that islam can live with the rest of us without killing everyone who isnt a muslim
(all i see in the muslims are kill them all)

I waitr to see some humanity from muslims
(all i see is muslims screeching god is great as they rape and murder)

I Dont want to see any more as i have seen enough of

Rapists Mohammed
Child molesters Mohammed
Mass Murderes Mohammed
Terrorists Mohammed
Liers Mohammed
Cheaters Mohammed
Scoundrels Mohammed
Drug dealers Mohammed
Tax cheats Mohammed
Slavery Mohammed
Racism Mohammed

Gee go figure Mohammed the child molester's name shows up a lot
statistics show if after 75% of the time you keep seeing a persons name showing uip
Its a good chance he actually is doing these things

Now about islam

IM TIRED.

Im am TIRED of Waiting for this VILE FILTH CALLED ISLAM TO BE REFORMED.

I am tired of hearing about a child raping monster called mohammed
and how wonderful this molesting bastard was.

I am tired of waiting wondering if my kids are next to be raped and
murderd by ISLAMIC RAPISTS.

I am tired of hearing in the media how we have to be kind to these scum.

I am now getting ready to make these bastards pay
They can all go to hell as far as i am concerned.

I say for each hostage we take out an entire city of no less than
250000 people.

ISLAM should be outlawed for the filth it is.
mohammeds body needs to be dug up and fed to the dogs.

We need to blow up medina, mecca and anyplace where mohammed has ever been too.

Chas,

Lets's coalesce on election night. We'll be pop-ing the champaign ...one way or the other!

But be prepared for 2000 all over again. Why can't dead people just rest in peace?

A

For the love of Pete, are these guys PURPOSELY trying to paint their own religion as the religion of blood lust? Spill the blood of infidels and Joooos!! Bloooood!

Yeah, THAT helps the rest of the world to see them as just another ho hum religion. They hurt their religion, and either don't see it, or don't care.

in wounded Palestine, which the most wicked of all humans have been flooding with iniquity for more than 50 years, without there being anyone to stop them,

Sons of pigs and monkeys, g*damnint! Sons of pigs and monkeys!

/Cartman

This isn't a religion, it's a mental illness. A people so obsessed with dying they don't know how to live.

# 21 L

"don't care"

I'm going with that one ...
:-(

Hmmmm, and the most important election of our generation has toc ome bang in the midddle of the holy month, eh? Somehow, I'm never one to believe in coincidences and if God (the real one, that is) intended it this way, chances are something's afoot....something big...

I slam Islam.

18 KWH

It's akmost Halloween and I was wondering...........

Ummmm, could be 'cause I heard a lot of those islama's do Pump' Kin.

Mecca is the only battle site I can recognize here. Must have very few to commemorate. Also may be running
low on virginians, or was that virgins. Am gettin old, and non-compos.

We ask Allah to turn this Ramadan into a month of glory, victory, and might, to hoist high in [this month] the banner of religion, to strengthen Islam and the Muslims, to humiliate polytheism and polytheists, to wave the banner of monotheism, to firmly plant the banner of Jihad, and to smite the perverts and the obstinate...”

Hod on a minute there, Abduli. I was OK with everything until that part about smiting perverts.

I wait for justice (not unless your a muslim or a leftist wako /
communtist democrat)

I wait for peace (muslims start more wars as they now believe they
can obliterate all of us)

I wait for kindness (muslims only give us hate)

I wait for life (all we see from muslims is death)

I wait for purity (all we see from islam is filth)

I wait for women to be treated right
(All is see from muslims is to rape their captives before decapitating them)

I wait for children to be allowed to live in peace
(all we see from islam are children being raped, molested then blown up)

I wait for the hostages to be released
(all we see from islam are headless corpses)

I wait for some sign of hope that islam can live with the rest of us without killing everyone who isnt a muslim
(all i see in the muslims are kill them all)

I waitr to see some humanity from muslims
(all i see is muslims screeching god is great as they rape and murder)

I Dont want to see any more as i have seen enough of

Rapists Mohammed
Child molesters Mohammed
Mass Murderes Mohammed
Terrorists Mohammed
Liers Mohammed
Cheaters Mohammed
Scoundrels Mohammed
Drug dealers Mohammed
Tax cheats Mohammed
Slavery Mohammed
Racism Mohammed

Gee go figure Mohammed the child molester's name shows up a lot
statistics show if after 75% of the time you keep seeing a persons name showing uip
Its a good chance he actually is doing these things

Now about islam

IM TIRED.

Im am TIRED of Waiting for this VILE FILTH CALLED ISLAM TO BE REFORMED.

I am tired of hearing about a child raping monster called mohammed
and how wonderful this molesting bastard was.

I am tired of waiting wondering if my kids are next to be raped and
murderd by ISLAMIC RAPISTS.

I am tired of hearing in the media how we have to be kind to these scum.

I am now getting ready to make these bastards pay
They can all go to hell as far as i am concerned.

I say for each hostage we take out an entire city of no less than
250000 people.

ISLAM should be outlawed for the filth it is.
mohammeds body needs to be dug up and fed to the dogs.

We need to blow up medina, mecca and anyplace where mohammed has ever been too.

*sniff*

I smell Ayatrollah.

It's been 20+ years ago when I was in college, and well, college was a trip to say the least, but I remember, faintly, those brain cells took a lot of abuse back then, reading this wild new book that had spent a lot of time being translated from arabic to english. It was called the koran. I don't remember much about it today other than this guy named Mohammed got into a fight with some other guy and Mohammed "bit off his manhood"...

Doesn't this make Mohammed a cockbite? And what are those who follow this?

jimgoism:

That was somewhat OTT the first time you posted it.

I've now seen it three times, and since you are credited with a total of four posts since you registered this morning, I'm assuming the fourth one is the same cut-and-paste.

Go drink a nice class of Ovaltine and calm down.

Yeah, jimgojism somewhere else.

#24 Buckaroo,

Sadly, I think you're right. They call for themselves to die in the name of Allah.. wait, only their 'followers' to die It's a death cult.. yet I wish beyond hope that some, like Alaa at messopotamian, will win the day, and carry the broader message of hope.. and LIFE.

Gah! It's like when I read on LGF the other day, about how the Iranians want to send monitors here, cuz they're "the best example of a democracy".. to paraphrase. They're nuckin futz!

Slightly OT (or maybe not)--I heard on CBC radio this evening (no link, sorry) that the Vancouver imam is being investigated by the Hate Crimes Unit.

Also, apparently--again, no links yet--the Vancouver Muslim community came out and condemned what he said. I didn't hear any "buts." They may have said "but" but it certainly wasn't quoted.

I think Rudwan Khalil Abubaker did us a big favour by getting killed in Chechnya, since that was almost certainly what led to the investigation of the mosque and the imam.

#29 jimgoism

We need to blow up medina, mecca and anyplace where mohammed has ever been too.

According to recent versions of history I'm hearing, that covers an awful lot of territory, including Fargo, North Dakota.

You may want to reconsider.

I say for each hostage we take out an entire city of no less than
250000 people.

Would you settle for 100,000?

Im am TIRED of Waiting for this VILE FILTH CALLED ISLAM TO BE REFORMED.

Try a good multi-vite. GNC mega-men, for example.

I am now getting ready to make these bastards pay

Try a good neuroleptic.

Go out to [fight] Jihad for the sake of Allah!

Why would they have to go anywhere for an "internal struggle?"

...your valiant brothers took action and attacked a hotel...

Yeah, they'll write songs and make movies about the wild bunch valiant enough to hit a hotel. "Are you a martyr?" "Not yet, but I did blow up a Holiday Inn Express last night."

This month of Jihad has come with all its blessings and with the double reward...

Is that like double coupon day at Albertsons?

...what else could arouse him...the perverts and the obstinate...”

He's aroused by obstinate perverts. Well, there ya go.

TIME has Bush ahead by 5. If you believe Islam is a threat get out the vote. If you are Jewish, PLEAD your relatives to vote for Bush or not vote for Kerry. Kerry has burned his roots and will turn on his ancestors. There is nothing wrong about being the product of a mixed marriage. But to be ashamed of your ancestry is disgraceful and frankly (in the word of queen Tereza) unamerican.

And having a name that is an oh-so-clever variant of "jingoism" is almost as obvious as calling yourself "Astute Observer" or "MumblemumbleTruth"...

Go back to KOS.

in wounded Palestine, which the most wicked of all humans have been flooding with iniquity for more than 50 years, without there being anyone to stop them,

This vile thing called a "religion" has to be stopped.

I can't wait until this election is over, its tearing me apart.

When it's done, this fucking cult will be about my main focus, along with the damn US borders, and can we do something about streamlining US elections, PLEASE???

Lawsuits before the election has even started.

Its all Fucking Bullshit.

“We pray for the Jihad fighters in Fallujah and in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, the Arabian Peninsula ... in wounded Palestine, which the most wicked of all humans have been flooding with iniquity for more than 50 years, without there being anyone to stop them, and in Egypt, in whose borders your valiant brothers took action and attacked a hotel in which Jews were gathered and killed dozens of them as an offering to Allah before Ramadan. We ask of Allah that he not deny them [their] reward for this colossal feat.

Colossal is right. Give it a try, you cowards. We'll "smite" you in a New York minute.

I'm convinced these sick bastards do a ton of drugs.

A little history lesson:

The attack on Constantinople, if it had been carried out by Western European Christians against a Muslim city, would be considered outright imperialism. And rightly so, for that is what it was …

Several thousand of the survivors had taken refuge in the cathedral: nobles, servants, ordinary citizens, their wives and children, priests and nuns. They locked the huge doors, prayed and waited. Mahomet [the sultan at the time] had given the troops free quarter. They raped, of course, the nuns being the first victims, and slaughtered. At least four thousand were killed before Mahomet stopped the massacre at noon. He ordered a muezzin to climb into the pulpit of St. Sophia and dedicate the building to Allah. It has remained a mosque ever since. Fifty thousand of the inhabitants, more than half the population, were rounded up and taken away as slaves. For months afterwards, slaves were the cheapest commodity in the markets of Turkey. Mahomet asked that the body of the dead emperor be brought to him. Some Turkish soldiers found it in a pile of corpses and recognized Constantine by the golden eagles embroidered on his boots. The Sultan ordered his head to be cut off and placed between the horses legs under the equestrian bronze statue of the emperor Justinian. The head was later embalmed and sent around the chief cities of the Ottoman empire for the delectation of the citizens.

Next, Mahomet ordered the Grand Duke Notaras, who had survived, to be brought before him, asked him for the names and addresses of all the leading nobles, officials, and citizens, which Notaras gave him. He had them all arrested and decapitated. He sadistically bought from their owners high-ranking prisoners who had been enslaved, for the pleasure of having them beheaded in front of him.

pp. 254-5 and pp. 256-257, from Jihad by Paul Fregosi

Come closer to Allah through the blood of infidels

"But... but... Christianity is full of gory imagery, too! Didn't Jesus say 'This is the cup of My Blood; drink it in memory of Me'? Who are we to point fingers at Islam?!?"

/Ecumenism run amok

the virgins of paradise are already decked out in anticipation of their grooms

Even though they know it will be an awkward and extremely brief encounter.

in whose borders your valiant brothers took action and attacked a hotel in which Jews were gathered and killed dozens of them as an offering to Allah before Ramadan.

Well, Mr. Arab, you did get away with that one, for now.

Believe me, you do not want to be around when we finally do go apeshit (we are the sons of monekys, after all) all over your crusty butts.

adds a new meaning to "blood drive"

#42 song and dance man

Ovaltine Rocks!

And it's good for you, too.

Why must Muslims believe in genies?

Allah is all-powerful; Allah is all-knowing. And, if there is only one God, then why do Muslims believe in Genies?

Why must Muslims believe in Genies? Ali Dashti explains why all Muslims must believe in Genies:

“Genies resemble humans but are normally invisible. There are male genies (jenni) and female genies (jenniya), malevolent genies, and benevolent genies or fairies. On rare occasions a genie is seen by a human, and it is even possible for a fairy princess to fall in love with a man or for a male genie to love a woman. …

No commentator or theologian, however, has denied the existence of genies, because they are mentioned in more than ten Qur’anic passages and are explicitly stated, in verse 14 of sura 55 (or-Rahman), to have been created by God out of smokeless fire. Moreover sura 72, which is known as the Surat ol-Jenn, states in its first two verses that a company of genies listened (to the Qur’an being recited) and said, “We have heard a wonderful Qur’an. It guides to righteousness, so we have believed in it and will never ascribe any partner to our Lord.”

The ancient Arabs, like other primitive peoples, believed in the existence of good and evil spirits, and the more readily because of the harshness and solitude of their desert environment. There is a report that when an Arab dismounted to spend the night in an uninhabited waste, he would be so frightened that he would utter supplications to the king of the fairies to shelter him and to the king of the genies to prevent impudent genies from molesting him. Verse 6 of sura 72 warns that taking shelter with genies only makes them more impudent.

While it is easy to understand why illusions and irrational ideas are so common among primitive peoples and lower classes of advanced nations, it is surprising to find them in a book deemed to be God’s word and in the preaching of a man who challenged his own people’s superstitions and sought to reform their customs and morals.”

pp. 159-160, 23 Years: A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad, by Ali Dashti, (Mazda Publishers, 1994)

#40 Sojourner

I'm with ya on that, especially the election thing.
I work in a tech industry and am well aware of the capabilities of modern technology....would someone please explain to me how the massive fraud that is now underway could be allowed to happen?
Photo ID? no prob
Motor-voter laws? BIG prob
Thumbprints? not sure about that one
"provisional ballot"? problem with that.
if you don't even know where to vote, then go down to the local Mickey D's and get a Monopoly playing card...you probably will think it's a F'n BALLOT!
heh, just scratch off the candidate you prefer, sir, or ma'am!

#23 Paul

I say we help them accomplish their goal with the fewest casualties possible. Where did we put those neutron bombs, anyway?

You know, the ones that leave the buildings standing, but the people falling, and have a tactically smaller field, but with massively effective penetration?Sounds like a good trick-or-Ramadan-Treat for the islamofacists.

If they're so damned intent on dying, they don't they all just have a liberal democrat love-fest party, all gather in a stadium filled with explosives, hold hands, and do the world a huge favor by lighting the fuse, and propelling themselves to hell where they belong. It would be a great contribution to humanity.
The rest of us will then try and get along without missing them too much, to be sure.

#44 Throbert

I'm too lazy.. what in THE hell does Ecumenism mean?

"wipe out humiliation and disgrace from among your Muslim nation!"

Jihadi gibberish must be getting to me. Humiliation and disgrace? You got it, bub: [cue fantasy sequence] A lightning raid on the Grand Mosque. Snatch the Black Stone, take it away to a foundry; smelt, melt, and cast into the shape of a pig. Mount the Black Pig on a lunar rover and rocket the infernal thing to the moon where a video camera continuously beams back to earth live images of the Islamic Pig driving around the goddam moon on the back of an infidel robot.

Calm down folks! This guy is a *MODERATE* Arab........Isn't he?

OT

I can't believe what I just saw on Scarborough Country. Larry O'Donnell just went completely frickin gonzo on John O'Neill. Called him a liar 400 times. I wanted to b*tch slap him

Charles:

I'm not sure that with all the new people coming here recently they do not understand that you are using sarcasm in the "tiny minority" of the "peaceful religion," however they soon will.

Please don't cuss me out here but, may i humbly and meekly interject that I have met some very down to earth and kind muslim people? Alot of what we see on TV is cultural not religious.

As a Catholic, I know how it feels to have a minority group in your religion give some people cause to consider you an excuser of pedophiles, for instance.

Take a look at this document, That We May Know Each Other: United Church - Muslim Relations Today, from the United Church of Canada.

[Link: www.united-church.ca...]

This document reveals that the United Church of Canada is the first mainstream Christian church that is in danger of being “captured” by Islamist ideologues in cahoots with “multi-culti” cultural relativists.

In this astounding and troubling document, the United Church of Canada (henceforth described as the UCC) outlines as follows:

1. “Christians and Muslims worship the same God ….” (p. 5);
2. Despite the historical record and Islamic textual evidence to the contrary, offensive, violent Jihad to advance the Islamic religion is taken as having no ideological basis in Islam: “The lesser jihad is the defence of Islam, or of a Muslim country or community against aggression. It may be a jihad of the pen or of the tongue. If it involves conflict, it is strictly regulated, and can only be defensive.” (p. 17);
3. Despite massive evidence to the contrary, the Shari’ah is presented as not having anything to do with the significant human rights violations that occur all across the Muslim world today: “Issues of human rights violations associated with Shari’ah in the press are often simply a failure to distinguish Shari’ah from issues of local custom.” (p. 22);
4. “We also believe it is a possible, though major, step forward in Muslim-Christian relationships for Christians to acknowledge Muhammad as a prophet of God.” (p.32);
5. Despite the fact that Muslims will never acknowledge nor pay any attention whatsoever to the prophetic message of the Bible as it has been “… corrupted on earth by Jewish and Christian scribes …” (p. 26), the UCC church proposes that their membership “… invite the possibility within the Christian community of a recognition of the Qur’an as an inspired word from God ….” (p.33).

The above points are only a few of many in what is a troubling demonstration of the effect that corrosive cultural relativism is having on the ideological positions of Western institutions. In effect, what the UCC is proposing is that, by validating that Muslims and Christians worship the same God, validating Muhammad as a legitimate prophet and validating the Qur’an is the word of God (despite the huge, self-evident ideological differences between Christianity and Islam), they will become the first Christian-Islamic sect in history. They are proposing to create this monstrous ideological hybrid and discard over 2000 years of Christian heritage in a pathetic and self-abasing attempt to bring about reconciliation between Islam and Christianity.

The propaganda value of this UCC validation for Islamists will be immense. They will be able to encourage conversions amongst Christians by pointing to the UCC as having validated and endorsed their religion while not having to discontinue their own exclusivist and supersessionist theological position. They will have a whitewashed and sanitized version of their religion and history accepted as true by a Western Christian sect and can in turn use this acceptance as a propaganda tool. As George Orwell said: “Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.” The UCC gains absolutely nothing by taking this course of action.

Oh yeah, and one last plug: If you were ever a "Randroid" in your misspent youth -- if you remember Atlas Shrugged and/or The Fountainhead with fondness even though, looking back, they were literary soap operas and their author was an overbearing harpy -- and especially if you are Jewish as well, read this excerpted essay by National Review columnist Florence King. Money quotes:

Ayn Rand's whole schtick was a gargantuan displacement of her never-admitted fear of anti-Semitism.
[...]
Despite their overwhelming Gentileness, Randian heroes come off as metaphors for Jews because they are beset by irrational forces that try to bar them from the professions and use their virtues against them to bring about their destruction.

I just re-read this piece by King for the first time in years, and I'm dying to discuss it!

#57 tigerwoman:
As have I.

The trouble is, they have to stand up to these bloodthirsty bastards and prove that the terrorists and their supporters are a "tiny minority" because as long as they don't stand up to them they give tacit approval to the barbarians.

And soon they will be tarred with the same brush.

Reform of Islam, if any, has to come from within. We can support it, but those "down-to-earth and kind Muslim people" have to be the ones to do the heavy lifting. If they don't, then they go down with the ship (to mix metaphors, sorry).

# 57 t

OK, here's the deal -- y'all rose up and started to bypass the colelction plate and/or leave the pews and (finally!) Rome is taking baby steps to stem a big problem.

These folks aren't leaving the mosques!!

As it has been said here - D. Pipes estimates that ~15% of the world's Muslims are actually full-bore Islamists. However, until such time as the other 85% speak the hell up they are part of the frickin' problem!!!!

#49
These slime are fanasists of the first order. Genies? These creeps believe in this virgin thing after death. Does this belief make ANY theological or epistemological sense. The Western mind can't even wrap itself around the triteness of the thought or even the female counterpart. I mean, what do you say the next week? "Well, now that I screwed my brains out and the virgins are all used-up except for that slow-witted one with the big brown eyes, I think I'll go play in the sand"? When I was in school taking Oriental religion, Islam was thought to be as theologically sophisticated as the Hindu rat cult. The females in the class were openly dismissive. It was presumed that sophistication would arrive. Alas the lowest literacy rate in the world has assured the survival of the 10th Century theology.

Night all.. just finished downloading Stolen Honor... dial-up donchya know.. time for some edgumacatin.

#57 Tigerwoman

Cultural not religious, eh?

Please find below examples of Sunni Sharia law from the Shafi'i school of Islamic law. There are three other major schools of Sunni Islamic law, the Hanafi, Maliki and Hanbali. About 75 percent of the legal pronouncements of the above-mentioned schools are identical. A Sunni Muslim can choose to follow any one of the schools. They do differ in some major aspects however. For instance, the Shafi'i school mandates female circumcision (The Shafi'i school could be chosen to be followed by a Sunni Muslim anywhere; it is followed by a majority of Muslims in Egypt).

The below-mentioned examples have been excerpted from the Umdat al-Salik (the Reliance of the Traveller)which is a classic manual of Islamic law; a representative of the famous Islamic University of al-Azhar has certified that the "... translation [of the Umdat al-Salik] corresponds to the Arabic original and conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni Community (Ahl al-Sunna was al-Jama'a)." (p. xx, The Reliance of the Traveller, Beltsville Maryland: Amana Publications, 1994)

I post these examples only to introduce non-Muslims to the objective facts regarding Islamic law; if any Muslim reading this finds it troubling to have their own legal system publicly revealed then I suggest that they ask themselves why they find it troubling.

The complete legal clauses and references for the Sharia law examples below, together with an explanatory article, are available at the following web address:

[Link: boston.indymedia.org...]

1. Offensive, military jihad against non-Muslims is a communal, religious obligation;
2. A person who is ignorant about Islamic legal opinion must follow the legal opinion of a scholar;
3. The penalty for a Muslim apostate (someone who no longer believes in or no longer follows the tenets of Islam) is death;
4. When slaughtering animals for food, a knife must be used to cut the windpipe and gullet;
5. A woman is only eligible to receive half the inheritance of a man;
6. Marriage may be forced on virgins by their father or father’s father;
7. A non-Arab man may not marry an Arab woman;
8. A woman must seek permission from her husband to leave the house;
9. A Muslim man cannot marry a woman who is a Zoroastrian, an idol worshipper, an apostate from Islam or a woman with one parent who is Jewish or Christian, with the other being Zoroastrian; a Muslim woman cannot marry anyone but a Muslim;
10. A free Muslim man may marry up to four women;
11. Retaliation is obligatory in most cases when someone is deliberately murdered except when a Muslim kills a non-Muslim, a Jew or a Christian kills a Muslim apostate or a father or mother kill their offspring;
12. Non-Muslim subjects (Ahl al-Dhimma) of a Muslim state are subject to a series of discriminatory laws – “dhimmitude”;
13. The penalty for fornication or sodomy is being stoned to death;
14. The penalty for an initial theft is amputation of the right hand. Subsequent thefts are penalized by further amputations of feet and hand;
15. A non-Muslim cannot testify against a Muslim in court; a person who is “without respectability” cannot give legal testimony; a woman’s legal testimony is only given half the legal weight of a man’s (and is only acceptable in cases involving property); to legally prove fornication or sodomy requires 4 male witnesses who actually saw the act;
16. The establishment and continuation of the Islamic Caliphate (by force, if necessary) is a communal obligation;
17. Sodomites and Lesbians must be killed;
18. Laughing too much is forbidden;
19. Musical instruments are unlawful;
20. Creating pictures of animate life is forbidden;
21. Female circumcision, which includes the excision of the clitoris, is obligatory;
22. Slavery is permitted;
23. People may be bribed to convert to Islam;
24. Beating a rebellious wife is permissible; and,
25. Lying is permissible in a time of war (or jihad).

in whose borders your valiant brothers took action and attacked a hotel in which Jews were gathered and killed dozens of them as an offering to Allah before Ramadan

He forgot to mention all the "Muslim Brothers" they killed in that attack.

What Buckaroo said.

#65 Parker in US:
Well, I'm sure he considers them as martyrs as well. And we can be sure they'll be added to the "number of Palestinians killed in the intifada" that the press loves to quote.

So it's a win-win for him.

If there are so called "moderate Muslims" where are they and why aren't they speaking out against this intentional creation of hell on earth?

#57 Tigerwoman

As regards pedophilia -

According to the ahadith, Aisha was 6 when Muhammad married her when he was just over 50 years old. Muhammad consummated his marriage with her at the age of 9. For that reason, the legal age of marriage in Iran is 9. The Ayatollah Khomeini, himself, at 28 years of age, married a 10 year old. She became pregnant at 11, but then had a miscarriage.

pp. 47-48, Islam Unveiled, by Robert Spencer

[Link: www.amazon.co......]

#49

Do the female genies wear invisible bhurkas and walk behind the male genies?

Do you suppose the male genies are allowed to beat the female genies with invisible sticks?

What would happen if I Dream Of Genie reruns were shown on Al Jazeera?

Is the Genie brand of garage door opener sold in Muslim countries and, if so, is it venerated?

If a genie takes part in an internal struggle, is that genie jihad?

Some clutch real rifles, others wooden cut-outs.

One could consider that progress in the media.

Forgot one: Is a tiny invisible hat a genie beanie?

Okay, that's it. Gotta board my plane now. Night, all.

OT

“UPDATE: Meanwhile, Daniel Drezner comes out for Kerry. "Like Laura McKenna, I'm not at all happy about my choice. . . . But in the end, I can't vote for a president who doesn't believe that what he believes might, just might, be wrong."

[Link: instapundit.com...]

------------------------------------------------

Just sent this email to InstaPundit, on revelation the daniel drezner, cast his lot with kerry.

For me, this is no “update”, I deleted Drezner when he started his fall of the ‘get it’ wagon, just about the time, Sullivan did.

His statement, might be more coherent if it was stated thusly. “But in the end, I can't vote for a Senator who doesn't believe that what he believes might, just might, be wrong."

Sincerely,

All that's riding on your vote drezner, is your life and that of your families...what the hell, huh?

Menawhile the waspy d'himmis in the Prebysterian Church have been going into rapture over their hizballah pals. Wonder if they bother to read that?

Irregardless how many people post vairous scriptures, there is only 1 common denominator. Look back at christian history to the dark ages. The only educated people were directly involved with the church, this is where the muslim world finds itself today, 800 years later. Sure there are well meaning individuals from that community that get an education in the developed world. But what have they to? If they stay where they are educated, then they worry about their family as you would your own. The solution is not easy but one of the basics from our bill of rights that we obtained from the Magne Charta which probably has further roots. Simply speaking if you want to be let in through the doors of the UN, (of course the UN needs to fix it's own by getting rid of Koffi without waiting until 2006, show some responsibility as an organization instead of a parasite depending on U.S. dollars for it's livelyhood)your country and its religious high & mighty must agree upon one basic idea, SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

Islam is like one big happy Manson family.

#52 Lydia

Ecumenism:

a movement in the Christian Church aiming at unity between different denominations on basic issues

Microsoft Word's new Research Tool works great!

Okay...Uncle.

I was just trying to give some balance to jingojism, or whatever, way back.

Mentat...no offense but, I sent most of your post to, how do you say, scrollover country. I am sure what you have to say is fascinating but could you shorten it a bit? I really would like to read the crux of what you are getting at.

Slightly OT:

Isn’t ramadan that time of the year were they go bat-shit and stamped a couple of hundred people to death in mecca?
It seems like they try for a new record every year.

song_and_dance_man, I'm so sorry I couldn't make it to the get together. Definitely next time :-)

# 80 M P

That would be the hajj, which occurs several months prior to Ramadan ...

#55

Larry O'Donnell just went completely frickin gonzo on John O'Neill. Called him a liar 400 times. I wanted to b*tch slap him

I think he was saying liar about 400 times a minute. O'Donnell completely lost it.

Too bad Ayn Rand is not still with us. I can just imagine her withering diatribes against the "Musclemen".

#67 cba

You are right, but I always find it intresting that these "Muslim Terrorist" never talk about how "Muslims" they kill in these attacks. If more Muslims knew or least thought about it I would think maybe it might snap them into the reality that driving a bomb into a building and just killing anyone in it is wrong.

#86

I think that they believe they are doing their fellow muslims a favor by sending them on to those virgins. Seriously.

#53,

ROFLMAO!

Where do I contribute?

#83 Buckaroo

Thanks for the information.
But was a record broken?

People, this is really OT, but I thought this could be some useful information about Kurian. Kurian is an Indian (hindu) last name, and only that. I have found a ton of people from India with that last name. Something tells me little Philip is not a black man from Mississippi, but a confused Indian black-wanna-be. This could be the truth about that POS.

Wait, it took a whole month to pen down the satanic verses?

"Paradise has already flung open its gates".
Earlier this year, Rantissi: "The gates of Hell have been opened."

Paradise = Hell.
QED

Plenty room for more, devil worshippers. Hoist them high, indeed.

2004, what a year.

Yassin, Rantissi. Lovely plumage! Afghan election. Bin Laden pining for Tora Bora. Landslide victory Bush. Arafat deathwatch. Liberation of Iran.

Well, we can hope for a bang instead of a whisper, can't we?

#86 Parker in US
Any Muslim killed in the attacks gets the 72 virgins also. Problem solved. Can you believe something this bizarre is part of world politics now?

Please don't cuss me out here but, may i humbly and meekly interject that I have met some very down to earth and kind muslim people? Alot of what we see on TV is cultural not religious.

Tigerwoman: If anyone cusses you out, let me know and I will roundhouse-kick some sense into their skulls -- because your point is perfectly reasonable. I've also known some down-to-earth and kind Muslims, and in fact I'm related to a few of them by conversion and marriage. However, over the past few years, many of us have come to the conclusion that Bush was wrong when he said that the terrorists have "perverted" Islam. On the contrary, it is the down-to-earth, kind-hearted Muslims who have "perverted" the true message of Islam -- and more power to these "perverts"!

That is to say, Islam as a religion and an ideology is mostly evil in its basic precepts: it prescribes an inferior status for women; it absolutely rejects the right of religious freedom for non-Muslims; it rejects democratic law; it encourages conversion by the sword.

HOWEVER, a great many Muslims follow an extremely watered-down version of Islam -- one might say they are "Muslims In Name Only." They could be very loosely compared to Catholics who use the Pill and only attend Mass on Christmas and Easter.

Exactly what proportion of the worldwide "Islamic brotherhood" -- the ummah -- falls into this MINO category is an open question. Obviously, most of us here hope that the number of MINO Muslims is very large, but the relative silence from the Muslim-American community has caused that hope to falter a little. Still, be assured that there are many LGFers who would happily embrace the liberalized MINOs as neighbors and fellow Westerners, should they ever come out of their closets.

#29 jimgoism

I agree, an atomic bomb on mecca would send a wonderful message to the muslims. Let them feel the Heat and Wrath of the infidels.

May Islam burn in hell forever.

#86 tigerwoman

Your right!

Like someone said earlier "These people have got to be high on drugs"

Maybe all we got to do is Nancy Regan over there and she can start a "Just say No" campaign

LOL

#53 Victor. OK I'm with you on the iron pig(of course we could make it a bank and force them to save until they grew up). But what the hell, let's get Rutan to send the stone to the moon so the Arabs can recover it when the learn to build a space craft.

tigerwoman

condensed version of mentat:

pediofecal individuals who routinely abuse, woman, children, non-muslims, and believe in amputation and death for convicted criminals.

Thanks so much, Parker in the US.

I'm still in the middle of Stolen Honor, and getting more and more pissed by the minute. I've never felt such hatred towards somebody till now.

#93 Throbert...

Thanks. The Muslims I know are definitely MINO's or close to.

Why not fry the asteroid chunk with a big frickin' laser beam? They aren't supposed to worship their old idols any more anyway. Allah must be ticked.

Anyone who has come in contact with this guy [Sa’ud Bin Hamoud Al-Utaybiis], I'd recommend getting a rabies shot ASAP.

#93 Throbert McGee

Good Post, very informative.

So the Islam practiced by Terrorist and the Taliban is "True Islam"?

hepcat

i'm thinking shot, not for me however, and not rabies....

"O Muslims: Truly, jihad is the pillar of the deen and its uppermost part. Muslims cannot have any international standing without it since it is the method Allah has obliged for the propagation of Islam, to preserve the Islamic State and protect its citizens."

Read the complete propaganda at:
[Link: www.hizb-ut-tahrir.org...]

There are approx. 1.3 billion Muslims worldwide. Let's say 1 billion for easy math. Let's say half are male: 500 million. Let's say only half of them are ages 16-60: 250 million. Let's say only half of them are fighting fit: 125 million. Let's say only 2 percent of them are oriented towards Jihad: that's 2,500,000 terrorists worldwide. And what if the ones who support Jihad are more than 2 percent?

Posted earlier

kerry picks up another key foreign endorsement:

Link

Special congratulations from the Ansar al-Sunnah Army to the Tawhid wal-Jihad Movement, on the occasion of its addition to the list of terrorists.....

Our congratulations should not be a surprise to anyone who understands the true nature of our Islamic religion, which is based on verses from the noble Quran and the words of the noble prophet. We are optimistic that this recent declaration by the evil Bush government [adding Zarqawi's Tawhid and Jihad group to the list of terrorist organizations] will only bring us joy and happiness....

Praise be to Allah, it increased the joy in our hearts that John Kerry, the presidential candidate criticized the Bush governmentfor taking so long in making this declaration. The one who may be president of America [John Kerry] is already struck with terror by our brothers from the Tawheed wal-Jihad Movement [Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's group]. The repeated attacks that have targetted the evil Bush are now echoing on Kerry, even though he is not yet a president. This is what Allah means when he commands us to 'terrorize your enemy and the enemy of Allah."

There is no other major religion on earth that so eagerly embraces death -- of its own adherents and of "infidels."

Islam was indeed "spread by the sword" and today, "Islam has bloody borders" (Prof. Samuel Huntington). This is no accident. Read an unexpurgated Koran.

It is not a religion of love; quite the opposite. It is quite horrifying to the Western mind -- at least those who understand it.

~LS

53 Victor

Islamic Pig!

I like that. I like that choice of words, Islamic Pig. It has a nice snort.

#53 Victor

Best Post of the Day. I Love it.

#98 Lydia

Your very welcome

OT But relavent to your post my 10 year son is getting into the election at school. So I sat him down and showed him that video tonight, after he watched it I asked him "Do you think that guy should be President" he said "No he should be where those POW's were". What a smart kid I have!!

Holbrooke on O'Reilly discussing what Kerry will do if elected:

"He'd put more pressure on Israel."

zulu, did you see 49?

LOL, what a coinkidink!

;)

Can we kill them yet?

s & d man

you just made me laugh for the first time in days....i have been on a expedition into the bizarre for the last week. Actually read 'most' of the koran (new of parts and many quotes before) and the history of jihad...

then tonite i watched 'stolen honor'.....

been very depressed feeling the need of a 'brain shower'.......and then you go and do this:

It's called the Mash
It was the Mecca Mash
The Mecca Mash
It was a Muslim smash
The Mecca Mash
It caught on in a flash
The Mecca Mash
It's called the Mecca Mash

all i'm seeing is these 'rock hounds' circling 7 times stepping all over each other......laughing to the point of tears.

Thanks

BTW, earlier tonight (I suspect it will be repeated) History Channel had a documentary about Nazi guerilla warfare, especially the "Werewolves".

They used tactics identical to current "insurgents" in Iraq. Road side bombs, sniper attacks. In German towns that had been occupied by the US, the US would try to set up a German occupation government of people who hadn't been in the Nazi party. Werewolf assasination squads would assasinate these officials.

In a Bavarian coal mining town that was suspected of not having been loyal to Hitler, Werewolf and SS squads arrived just hours before the town was to be occupied by the Allies, and took dozens of the men out to be executed by firing squad and hanging.

After Germany fell, the guerillas continued to plant bombs, shoot at troops, and even bombed civilian targets to target German collaborators.

In the American sector, captured guerillas were tried by military courts and quickly executed by firing squad.

In the British sector, death was by beheading using what appeared to be a guillotine like device.

No mention of what the French did, although they did mention French troops were fond of raping German woman.

In the Russian sector, every attack that resulted in a Russian casualty would be answered ten or even a hundred fold, with local men rounded up and shot.

They also mentioned (makes me think of al Jazeera) that occupation forces kept news of guerilla success out of the local papers and radio, so as not to give encouragement to them.

I think there is a lesson in there, somewhere.

I'm no expert, but my understanding was that Aisha (Mohammad's young bride) became eligible for consummation of her marriage when she had her first menses (which occurred at age 9). In Iran today, based on what I've read, the age when one may be married is 15 for boys (used to be 21) and 13 for girls (used to be 18).

There is no age of consent, because that implies you can have sex if you want to. You can't do that in Iran. Sex outside of marriage is illegal. Heck, kissing and holding hands is illegal outside of marriage. What fun (sarcasm).

The more I read about Islam, the more confused I get.

#110 Parker

You're darn tootin! Hell, my first thought was exactly the same thing. I just finished it up... Fonda/Kerry.. TRAITORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And all the other anti-war fucks. God, I hate hippies.

Your son is a good man.

I already posted this, but I just fell in love with this photo and wanted to make people saw it. I found it on strategy page. It's entitled Iraqi SWAT Team. Mind you, these guys count as infidels to the sick and twisted minds of the jihadists.

75 Jakester

I am a member of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, which has nothing to do with the divestment campaign of the Presbyterian Church USA, (referred to as the PCUSA).

Please note that while the media may make sweeping statements referring to "Presbyterians", it is only the PCUSA (and now I see the American Presbyterian Church) taking part in the divestment.

My affiliation's website is [Link: www.opc.org,...] and this page, [Link: www.opc.org...] shows the other Presbyteries with which we have relationships.

While I can't expect better from the media, I hope that a fellow LGFer will learn this and go forward in a more accurate manner.

F'ing media.

LGFers please get your facts straight.

#68 On the Mark

"moderate Muslims." I have studied enough of the Koran to know that as long as the Koran exists, there is no such thing as moderate muslims.

#93 Throbert McGee

Good Post, very informative.

So the Islam practiced by Terrorist and the Taliban is "True Islam"?

Yes, in a nutshell. But don't take my word for it -- start by reading the testimonies from ex-Muslims at these sites:

Faithfreedom.org

Secular Islam

As the name "Secular Islam" suggests, the people who run these sites do feel some cultural attachment to their Muslim heritage, but flatly and utterly reject Islam as a religion. (Some have embraced other religions such as Christianity; others identify as "agnostic," "humanist," "non-religious," etc.)

Also, when you go to the "Secular Islam" link above, you will encounter the name "Ibn Warraq" -- the pseudonym of an American immigrant who has become one of the leading figures in the "ex-Muslim" movement. He writes under a pseudonym to avoid harassment and death threats, but his writings are readily available at large bookstores and libraries, or through Amazon.

I should add that I am an ex-Catholic atheist and that my low opinion of Islam does not reflect a competing religious agenda -- like a lot of the regulars here, I've come to my negative views of Islam based on several years of reading the testimonies from former Muslims as well as from non-Muslims who had the misfortune to be born in Islamic lands. Then, too, the kill-the-Jews-and-Americans rhetoric that issues from mosques across the Middle East speaks for itself...

song&dance. I love it . Flesh it out and well trot the number out every October. I'm out of here.

WAY OT -

anyone using safari having trouble loading drudgereport?

song_and_dance_man

You SIR are a freaking HOOT!

You crack me up!

I think there is a lesson in there, somewhere.

Uh, that the french troops were cowardly rapists?

All 3 of them . . .

;)

#107 Lee Shore

And that is putting it in a nice way. You are so right.

# 123 Throbert

Dude you are one smart guy!

Very Elightening

Posted by Ex-Islamist:

Let me outline my reasons, point by point, on why I left Islam.

1) ISLAM WAS CREATED BY MAN

Muslim books and scholars want you to believe that this is a divine Religion brought down to the Earth by God himself. This is a lie. What actually happened is as follows:

1400 years ago, around 600 AD human beings on this planet had found ways to control their societies. For example, the white race had developed a set of rules founded in Christianity, that was used to lead their race down the right path. To teach their people to do good.

Similarly other races on this planet had used their own respective rules or religions to do the same. To teach right, to guide, to help their societies, to control the ones who were headed astray. At this time, in Arabia, there were Arabs. These were without a doubt the worst humans on the planet. They were totally and absolutely out of control. It was a disastrous environment.

So the scholars of the time in Arabia decided that they needed a very strict and harsh method of restraining these uncivilized Arab men.

That is when all their rules and regulations on how to live were laid down in a book (that we now call the Quran). If you look at these original rules of the religion of Islam: praying 5 times a day, fasting 40 days a year, no alcohol, etc, you can clearly see how strict it is. Yes, it is for a reason, to control the uncivilized Arabs.

But I certainly, here in the year 2003, living in the west in a civilized society, do not need to pray five times a day, in a language I do not understand (Arabic). I certainly do not (and won’t ever) starve myself 40 days out of the year to prove something that I already know about myself.

Muslims insist that Islam is a "way of life." Yes, but it is the "way of life" for a bunch of savage desert dwellers of the 7th century.

My dear Muslim friend, use your judgment and intelligence. Do not simply follow false beliefs blindly.

For good education on Islam Click Here

#125,

Looks like someone's editing the page, maybe?

When I checked, the code was a little screwy.

93 Throbert

I agree to a large extent with your post.

But the fact that "moderate" muslims don't speak out, as far I can see, is because it would be apostacy for them, and they would be eligible for the death penalty.

That's my understanding to date, and if its true...

Then WTF????

In my opinion, Islam is no RELIGION, its a cult, and any Infidel or Apostate is to be put to death.

FUCK that and them.

Muslims aren't speaking out for fear of DEATH.

No offense to you Throbert, your post was informative, I'm just going to the next step.

131 Song and dance man

You too! I hope we can have a "4 more years" meetup.

Otherwise, let's meet up and "strategerize" on what we can do to change some things if Herman Munster takes office.

Parker in US:
Please stop talking, you make an ass of yourself.

QM

#132 Sojourner

In my opinion, Islam is no RELIGION, its a cult

In my opinion, Islam is no RELIGION, its a cult

Its not even a cult its a set of rules to keep a bunch of crazy arabs in line.

[Link: www.faithfreedom.org...]

#130 -

i open it up on IE and it works fine.. but not on safari, any other ideas?

#134 QM

WTF is your problem I am just getting an education here?

Why do all suicide bombers look like characters from South Park ???

#138

LOL

To 121 Sojourner...

I would also like to add that our friend here is quite correct about the split in the Presbyterian ranks......there is the solid group in the Orthodox side and there is the liberal weenie morons on the other side...

Many many fine Presbyterians the world over.....but like any Christian denomination, there is always liberal morons giving us a bad name..

I dare say, I believe liberal 'christianity' is just about as evil as Orthodox Islam....they both deserve one another!!

By the way, if you're brand-new to LGF, one "old" thread that I would especially recommend is John Quincy Adams Knew Jihad. (Actually, the thread is from just a couple weeks ago, but that's like decades in "Internet time"...)

Even way back then, Muslims were causing trouble for America -- and Mr. Adams, whose own religious views were so extremely liberal that he'd be kicked out of some Christian congregations today, had some fairly rude things to say about "Mohammedans." If only today's liberals understood that sometimes, you have to draw a line, and anyone who crosses it gets punched in the nose...

The ignorance of these people is astounding.

I know in the past we've been the 'weak horse' and emboldened them, but..

Do they have ANY idea what they would be in for if we truly went to all out war, unleashing the power of the US military, ecomony and a pissed off citizenry? (I know the last parts a pipe dream, if 9/11 doesn't unite us for more than 2 weeks, nothing will).

Or, how about we just take the handcuffs off Israel, and tell them "Do what you gotta do."

Would temper there zeal to spill the blood of infidels, I bet..

Eclid,
Just read that "pump kin" thing LMAO

s & d man

see this:

My Post 115

Does the time of the hajj also occur the same time each Islamic year, such that it slowly changes the time of the year it arrives (time of year obviously based on more advanced calendars).

Every few decades, the hajj will be happening in July and August, and besides the ever present risk of being trampled to death, potential hajis are also dropping dead from various heat related causes?

I still think, to show our true sensitivity to Muslims, we should celebrate Ramadan every year in the US. But so as to make it work with the Julian or Gregorian or whatever calendar we're using (I always confuse the two) we'll let the Muslims start fasting right after the July 4th holiday, and every year we'll call the first Monday of August "Eid al Fitr Day". Neiman Marcus and Saks and Bloomingdales will have sales, people will enjoy an extra summertime three day weekend by going to the beach and working on their tans, maybe the previous years college football national championship contenders will battle in the first game of the season "Eid Pigskin Classic". Barbecues, beer, maybe a special night NASCAR race.

And the best part, it will make our Muslim population feel welcome and accepted by their American neighbors.

Paradise has already flung open its gates and the virgins of paradise are already decked out in anticipation of their grooms

Who could aspire to more; 2 dozen worn out semi-virginal vagina's. This IS assuming they are female virgins.

#53 Victor 10/22/2004 07:31PM PST

"wipe out humiliation and disgrace from among your Muslim nation!"

Jihadi gibberish must be getting to me. Humiliation and disgrace? You got it, bub: [cue fantasy sequence] A lightning raid on the Grand Mosque. Snatch the Black Stone, take it away to a foundry; smelt, melt, and cast into the shape of a pig. Mount the Black Pig on a lunar rover and rocket the infernal thing to the moon where a video camera continuously beams back to earth live images of the Islamic Pig driving around the goddam moon on the back of an infidel robot.

LOL. That's a keeper!

It might be cuter if you painted it pink. Islamic piggy!

Just for the sake of ecumencialism, I'll say that I fully support nailing together all 10 yards of segments of the true cross and making a giant inflatable Jesus big enough to cover the whole "true cross" and floating it down the macy's parade.

Parker in US:

Uhmmmm...okay sheetboy, but try this:
[Link: www.rezasafa.com...]

Reza Safa is a Purpose Driven former Shia. These people, muslims, aren't animals, Parker. They are devotees of a life hating sect.

Your language tells far more about you than what your profess. "Crazy Arab Men"? Wise up to yourself.

QM

ed

maybe we can build a small marble house with roof support of three timbers and cow chip attached with silver nails on the east corner.......

attacked a hotel in which Jews were gathered and killed dozens of them as an offering to Allah before Ramadan.

From a holiday of fasting, prayer, and inner reflection, to a holiday celebrated with human sacrafice and mayhem.

Parker:

It isn't their "race" that is the problem. It is the worship of a Deathloving cult that is the problem. A Cult of Personality.

Race is not the problem.

QM

It seems the plot of Islam to overthrow and enslave all infedels has gained benefit of a strong dry wind to stoke the coals.

I wonder what any of us can do to stop it? As my Israeli freind once told me "we can do nothing, just think there are 4,000,000 muslims in England alone."

Mulsims have the benifit of large numbers of childbirths and rapid rises in population within just one or two generations. Forget about infant mortality because most of them come to the west (EU) and take benefit from social medicine to grow up to be healthy and strong (multi lingual) jihadists.

Pointing out the ravings of lunatics such as the one one that blog scare me as well. I generally don't believe what I read on jenki blog sites, but the fact that someone took the time to dictate it is scary enough.

I can't help but wonder how much of this is typical middle eastern male machismo posturing and bulllying scare tactics Arab culture is known for? I generally don't accept the rantings of these lunatics, but I guess someone on this site will have oodles of information about why I need a bomb shelter.

#148 deadmaus
2 dozen worn out semi-virginal vagina's.

There's a lot more to it than that.

I just did a search, but of course I can't vouch for the validity of this page.

(not work safe description of Jihadi heaven)
[Link: www.flex.com...]

64

Yes, but all those obligations to kill, mutilate, and inflict hell on other creatures is merely an interpretation on your part. It all really just speaks of an internal obligation to write poetry, raise ducklings and study ballet.

The highly unfortunate pile of corpses all over Islam is simply a Jewish plot.

Joshua

From link

I heard Allah's Apostle (pbuh) as saying that the inmates of Paradise would eat and drink but would neither spit, nor pass water, nor void excrement, nor suffer catarrh. It was said: Then, what would happen with food? Thereupon he said: They would belch and sweat (and it would be over with their food), and their sweat would be that of musk and they would glorify and praise Allah as easily as you breathe."

OK, Allah can make it so people burp and sweat instead of pee and poop, and yet your breath won't smell like crap.

All well and good, but couldn't the creator of the universe go one step further so people didn't even produce bodily waste?

This reminds of a scene from the Mummy Returns when the bad guys are being chased by the creature, the imam says to his two remaining followers "You must sacrifice yourselves.....for me. You will be rewarded in heaven! (Runs off)"

I'm reading an interesting book about Israel's 1967 a$$-whooping of its "neighbors" at the moment. The narrative is just at the begining of Day 2, and while half of Egypt's army is being chased back to the Suez and 286 of Egypt's 420 aircraft are burning piles of trash on five destroyed airbases, Radio Cairo is proclaiming a great Arab victory, and that Egypt's incredible warriors were marching on Tel Aviv. Its not suprising that Arab leaders broadcast crap like this...reality is much harder to deal with. Early in 1967, after a number of crossborder raids by al-Fatah, backed by Syria, the IAF attacked Syrian positions on the Golan. The Syrian airforce arrived and the IAF chased them back to Damascus, routing the Syrians over their own capital. The government proclaimed a great victory, but its hard to deny being defeated in plain view of the civilians. The icing on the cake was that at least two of the downed Syrian MiGs were armed with wooden rockets, Assad didn't trust his own pilots with real missles. What a joke of a people. Thulycidies was right when he said that free citizens fight harder than conscripts or mercenaries.

QM

I ment no disrespect for Arabs I was only quoting the post I linked to:

So the scholars of the time in Arabia decided that they needed a very strict and harsh method of restraining these uncivilized Arab men.

Sorry if I was offensive

No. 154: Bush referrs to Islam as the ROP to give a chance for Islamic non-fanatics to do something about their own fanatics. But, I think, it is not a pass good forever. I would like to see some internal reform happening in the Islamic world, but I don't yet. On bad days, which are most of them when I pay attention to the news, I just see more - words fail - extremely bad acts. And then I think we ought to nuke Mecca, that it would save lives in the long run to do it earlier than later. HELLO moderate Muslims? Do you tune in here? I don't think my mind is unique here in the West. Will you please get going on eliminating or at least imprisoning your fanatics? Because I feel that my family is threatened by your co-religionists, and I am more and more thinking pretty dark thoughts about the ultimate demise of your religion. Especially after the Massacre at that school in Beslan.

What's not clear to me at this point is whether women go to heaven in Islam...

I once read that some Muslims say it's unusual for a woman to make it into heaven... Does anyone have any info on that?

The perpetual virgins (horis) in heaven were never humans of course.

John Le Kerre's Terror Alert System:

Level 1: Ennui
Level 2: Comme ci, comme ça
Level 3: Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Level 4: Regardez!
Level 5: Zut alors!

140 Albertadude

Many many fine Presbyterians the world over.....but like any Christian denomination, there is always liberal morons giving us a bad name..

I dare say, I believe liberal 'christianity' is just about as evil as Orthodox Islam....they both deserve one another!!

And I certainly agree, but to say "Presbyterians" in GENERAL is just false.

It's a blanket LIE.

And DAMN the PCUSA and any other org claiming "presbyterinan" "RELATIONS", "divesting" from Israel.

I am not a Zionist, though I have nothing against "Zionists", I just don't happen to believe along that route.

Many Jews and Christians may be so, I don't begrudge them their view in that regard.

And I think that since Israel became a state (if that's the word) well, probably some mistakes have been made. I'm coming into the game about 50+ years late.

What I do know is that "Jews" migrated to the land of their forefathers and have made it into a place where people can come and live and earn a living and be prosporous and work and bless the place.

While the rest of the ME has done virtually nothing, save worship a god of "slay the infidel".

My history isn't that great, anyone who wants to educate me, please don't just respond here, send me an email, because this place is too much for me to absorb, at almost any time.

But I'll be damned if I just let some sleazy "oh the presbyterians" in general comment go by.

When I have the chance to see it, anyway.

rant off/

reason

It is the worst of all facist movements so far in history. An outward moderate face in western cultures, solid nation state support for it's institution, religious permission for hate/killing/suppression of non-conformers and believers, and a built in underground of murderous/secretive enforcers......all using the same playbook.

NOT GOOD

Must be stopped!

joshua

women do not have souls according Islam......they are lessor beings

167

should read non-believers

166 song_and_dance_man

One problem is that like the insane crack addict that fixated on my house and broke in a bunch of times, the Muslims are fixated on the US and Israel and the rest of the world doesn't want to stand up to defend us. It's humiliating - we defended the free world from Soviet invasion and the world has no wish to return the favor...

One fact that should be better known is that this fixation started a long time ago, maybe 70 years ago, when it looked the US and Israel were perfectly safe scapegoats. The US because it was so far away (so no real war was going to happen given the technology of the day) and Israel because they were apparently very small and very weak.

And of course both were very satisfying targets, the US because it was big and strong (but safely far away - little barking dog thinking you know) and Israel because of all of the antisemitic ranting and calls for genocide in some Hadiths and because of the prophet's own history of slaughtering Jews. When you commit genocide against Jews you walk in his footsteps.

Satan = Western Culture, America, israel

168 dustyroadguy

I don't think you're quite right...

But I am sure that there are Hadiths that make women slaves to men. Keep in mind that nearly a million Hadiths have been written - and that they are not all accepted as valid, and of course different groups accept different sets of Hadiths.

But I don't think even the worst version goes quite so far as saying women have no souls.

How many more of these lame threats must we listen to before we pave that hell hole know as Saudi Arabia?

I stopped believing in or practicing in any organized religion years ago.

All these different “religions” why can’t we all just get along.

Heard Michael savage rant on about this stuff tonight too, maybe he's stealing his ideas from LGF. Even the Nazis manged to present a more cogent and rational image than these savages, after all, the right people in Nazi Germany got a great standard of living and cradle to grave benefits. and they never openly boasted of murder and blood. What kind of people could be attracted to a cause that just causes everyone's death?

#141 Throbert McGee

Moslems have been causing trouble ever since they boiled out of the Arabian Peninsula and went on jihad in all directions -- well before AD 700. Mohammed died in 632.

711 The Berber Tariq ibn Ziyad, Moslem governor of Tangier, crosses into Spain at Jebel al-Tariq (Tariq's Mountain, now known to us as -- yes, Gibraltar)
712 Muhammad ibn al-Qasim conquers the Sind (in what is now Pakistan -- several thousand miles away from Spain)
714 Moslem armies cross the Pyrenees
732 Battle of Tours in the Loire Valley; Charles Martel (grandfather of Charlemagne) defeats the Moslem advance into France, capturing and killing their general, Ab-der Rahman.

Such a spread of empire was and is still unprecedented. It beggars the imagination to think what would have happened to Europe (and to my ancestors) if Rahman had won at Tours and proceeded to conquer the continent. Our world would be unrecognizable and much the worse.

~LS

joshua

maybe I was a bit overstated.....but not by much

The Family Part of The Islamic System*

this is written as a muslim 'apology' (classic meaning) calling for moderation....a little dense but readable.

If your curiosty is provoked

#174 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

Re the hadith - yeah. What I've read (and boy is this stuff confusing!) has all kinds of different stuff on women - a lot of it scary-bad. Mysogynists-R-Us.

The quran itself, if you remove the above, says something simple:"If any do deeds of righteousness be they male or female and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them. (The Quran, 4:124)"

....dirka dirka mohammid jihad dirka dirka blah blah blah blood blah blah kufr blah blah infidel blah blah allah blah blah mishrukim blah blah crusaders blah blah polytheiSts blah blah blah dirka prophet blah blah shirk blaH BLAH DIRKA DIRKA MOHAMMID JIHAD BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH....YEAAAARRRGGGHHH!!

cattt

the notion of outer garment of flesh ( male and female) same soul........

then some of the MOST oppressive, paternalistic, mysoginistic rantings which one could dream...

Yep, yep, dustyroadguy. And it's all over the fricking map. Trying to get a handle on it is like trying to nail Jello to the wall.

Einstein's theory of relativity was easier to understand. Much.

DIRKA DIRKA MOHAMMID JIHAD BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH....YEAAAARRRGGGHHH!!

Why do people keep quoting Gov. Dean? He's out of the race. :)

just lurking

Song-and-dance-man:

This hate goes way back. I'm not jewish so correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Arab a son of Abraham? And the argument of the arab is that they are rightful heirs to the land promised to Abraham. The birthright was sold, and they want it back. So now America has entered the fray. And so she should as a protector of freedom and guardian of liberty. Bondage is the future for those who acquiese to the muslim and his ROPMA.

You're close. Abraham had two sons - the older, Ishmael, by a slave woman, and Isaac by his wife Sarah. According to the Old Testament, After Isaac was born, Sarah insisted that Abraham get rid of Ishmael and his mother, so he sent them out into the desert.

Ishmael was the patriarch of the Bedouins, from whom came the Arabs.

So it's really brother against brother - one of the nastiest kinds of conflict.

FWIW......from memory as a kid in Church School

Abraham was married to Sarah and she was unable to conceive.....G-D had promised Abraham a son.

Sarah feeling guilty gave her maidservant Hagar an egyptian to Abraham to bear him a son.

Hagar gave birth to Ishmael

Later at age 90 Sarah conceived and gave birth to Isaac.

Ishmael was disinherited and hagar and he banished to wander in the desert......ergo 'father of arabs'

Isaac inherited Abrahams name and fortune and is the father of the Israel.

166

A few weeks back someone posted how he watched with his sons the North Tower fall on Sept, 11. He told his sons that this wouldn't be over until 40 million muslims were dead.

Rmeinds me of a Hamas-paleo car swarm or bodypart party. Drives my point home too. That is precisely the counter productive crap I hear from the Arabs.

We should focus on elimanting the importance of the Arab world, like by removing the importance of fossil fuel in our society.

167

All of the muslims in the world do not believe. Many muslims that have money dont behave this way. Only the poor depraved muslims act this way to cover the despair in their lives. similiar to Americans ghettos and religion is their crutch. Many rich or wealthy muslims i know drink do drugs party and are gay as well. We tend to accept this media image of muslims, just as many here are critical of the media stereotypes of jews.

I would be incredibly skeptical in my blanket statements about other religions, creeds, etc. if I was defensive about my own religion. I was impressed by how just a day ago an article deemed anti semitic from a duke student was landblasted by our readers.

How did we defend ourselves? By attacking the author's racial background. Hmmm, talk about fighting fire with fire. I wonder how one could be critical of such a text and then respond by reducing themselves to the same infatile level? Is this how we respond to a threat? Muslims attacked WTC and ALL of them need to rot in hell?

sihlus

you typed faster....sorry

'Men in paradise are more than in hell.' "(2 ) A weak hadith tells us: "Out of 99 women, one is in paradise and the rest are in hell."(3) Muhammad explains why by saying: "I have seen you being the majority in hell because you curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands

Here is a link to a book on women in islam this page is what I think your looking for.

Light of Life

In case you missed it, the absolutely disgraceful Lawrence O'Donell tirade video can be found right here.

reason

your post does not match your nic.....

see this:

My Post dustyroadguy

"Women are the least [in number] among the dwellers of paradise due to their inclination to passion, the passing enjoyments of life, and indifference to the afterlife; which is all caused by the deficiency of their intelligence and gullibility."

Boy O Boy this would certainly piss off your average American woman.

ploome

you are right......i should have included your point

#157 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

Good read, thanks for pointing that out. ;)

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74 ElCid

Why anyone would care who Drezner is voting for or why is beyond me. For grins I did check out his rationale and sure enough the logic behind his choice relies on the principle of 'what if' which to me is a logic and reality disconnect.

Had Bush relied the assessment & arguments of any one of a half-dozen different plans and their possible scenario's, not only for the invasion strategy itself but also the aftermath; we'd either still be in the planning stages, with Saddam now immune and protected by the international community, or current hearing the screeching of quagmire, just one of a different color.

Kerry's been trotting out finger-pointing 'experts' from day one who must have, or had, crystal balls(probably in more ways than one ;-). They're all long on argument but short of substance and evidence...unless your going to rely upon their arguments as being correct, articles-of-faith, the argument Kerry's been using against Bush.

Drezner sums up the problem itself quite well but fails to take it to its logical conclusion,

a Kerry administration is likely to recognize, once the multilateral diplomacy fails, that it will actually have to come up with a viable alternative.

Yes, given infinite time and infinite resources, a nice choice if available but when is it ever?

As for the statement, I can't vote for a president who doesn't believe that what he believes might, just might, be wrong. Now we've ventured into mind-reading.... How about tossing chicken-lips for confirmation?

192 reason

I agree with everything you said. So how do you see us dealing with this problem in the long run? Should we all move to the ME and convert Muslims or what?

ploome hineni

Hey, he asked, I answered. You got a problem, take it up with Moses. He wrote the book.

parker

thats a very reasoned question......

#195 Jheka

Thanks for the link - been wanting to see this.

#194 Parker in US - Re that link - I've read that already. I've read books (remember paper?); I've read the doggone Quran. The hadith and the Quran are two different things. All these different authorities and their personal interpretations mean lots of scary-bad quotations, if you look for them. Some of these guys really REALLY hated women.

#192--reason in name only--its too late in the evening to go into the genesis of muslim violent and imperalistic behaviour as dictated in the kkkoran -the hadiths--and the fatwas of the four judicial schools--you display supreme ignorance if you equate this as solely tribal behavior or cultural mores and folkways--go read some suras--some hadiths with good isnad eg bhukari/muslim--some fucking history--prophet of doom--why i am not a muslim--the sword of islam and come back to play with the bigboys--just because you know some hard drinking rich muslim homos and they are kewl dudes is no excuse for not knowing 1400 years of death cult history--i'm sure there was some really really nice german nazis--highly educated-charming etc--why they probably had ironic smiles as they gassed your ass in the showers and stoked the crematoriums--study hard and come back later beeatch we'll talk then

cattt

So the quesstion was:

In Islam do women go to heaven?

OT:

LGF is mentioned in a New York Times article about reaction to the Sinclair wimp-out. Refers to poster 'mas.'

OT - watch the O'Donnell video (link in 195 above). It's unnnnnnnreal. I've never watched this show. Has this man gone nuts? Mr. O'Neill has the patience of a saint.

Parker, scroll up to 180. (Yawns)

And why does everyone keep dropping my fourth t? (pouts)

#22 Dar ul Harb 
Sons of pigs and monkeys, g*damnint! Sons of pigs and monkeys!

Let's see if it works better this time:

Islamic scientists discover new species: the pigmonkeyjew

#192 "reason"

Now *there's* a misnomer of a nic! You write:

"I was impressed by how just a day ago an article deemed anti semitic from a duke student was landblasted by our readers.

How did we defend ourselves? By attacking the author's racial background. Hmmm, talk about fighting fire with fire."

Bullshit. In fact, very few of the criticisms dwelt on Kurian's race, nearly all criticized the fact that his article was chock-full of antisemitic vitriol, complete with sarcastic references to Jewish religious customs like "they can take off their yarmulkes".

#38 But what is Kerry? At first he was Catholic, then he had Jewish ancestors, and now he has Muslim ancestors. How's that for a man for all religions?

Some of this has indeed been a little OT however, after travelling in the Middle East and living outside the USA for over seven years I can say that Islam and Muslim culture in general creates the most jingoistic and irrational people in the whole world. What a culture where truth doesn't matter for anything and all that matters is "honor". You ask how can there be honor without truth and I will tell you you think too much like a westerner. In Islamville if someone loses their honor because the truth was told, then the truth is the problem. Finally, how can any institution, religion, person, etc., be reformed anyway without truth?

#177 Jakester
Heard Michael savage rant on about this stuff tonight too, maybe he's stealing his ideas from LGF.

Actually, I know for a fact that he and/or his assistant reads LGF, and that he sometimes gets his ideas from here. I have an inside track on this -- believe me.

#58 But not the only so-called "CHristian"group trying to get into a big group hug with this "peace loving religion." Consider the PCUSA, and the Episcopilians divesting themselves from companies doing business with Israel but not from companies that do business with the Palestinians who are slaughtering the Israelis, and the gem from a member of the Presbyterian Church USA who said today that Muslims are so much easier to deal with than Jews. These "Christian" apostates are a big and growing problem.

Just saw Celsius 41.11. Great movie. Has anyone else seen it?

I wonder if the USSS's codename for Mrs. Kerry is BOOZER?

These are my beers

via the DRUNK report.

Hey zombie,

I thought of you when I read this this morning:

"She knows people in all walks of life," said Time magazine photographer Diana Walker, one of Mrs. Kerry's closest friends. "She knows where the brains are."
"What we're hungry for," said former Clinton administration official Ann Pincus, "is someone who's engaged."

Which I can't believe wasn't "unintentionally" edited for juxtaposition.

Song and Dance, you gave me the best laugh I have had in many weeks. Is this done to the "Monster Mash" tune?

#104 Who says only the Muslim men are terrorists?

LGF invades the NY Times!

Two LGF-related items in the NY Times right now:

My rebuttal to the NYT lame biased review of Celsius 41.11 (scroll down to the third reader review on the page, or search for "zombie")

LGF mentioned in an article about the Stolen Honor show on Sinclair (quotes a comment by lizardoid "mas")

Good going mas! And this is the first time I've been in the NY Times under my zombie identity.

#218--song/dance person--didn't realize that was a jab--thought you were shadow boxing--you'll get the humor of my dirka dirka post if you see "team america'--you new 'round heah homes?

#224 Geepers
Hey zombie,
... "She knows where the brains are."
"What we're hungry for,"...

LoL! Actually, I prefer a bit of Chianti and a side of fava beans with my brains.

OT: Interesting article about some of the tech used in Iraq.
[Link: www.technologyreview.com...]

209

Hmmm... you speak of tolerance towards the Nazi aggression, but what do you call the "Post War Economic Miracle?" I call it post up the economy of our enemy and they will have no "reason" to fight.

Hmmmm... The Iraq war. We can destabilise theocracy in the Middle East by providing an American style economy to them. Hmmm... In that process do we appease Muslims, I wonder. It IS a muslim country.

Your arguements are all moot. How do you in one breath support the Iraq War (which only "in theory" seeks to benefit a Muslim nation) and then hate all Muslims in the same breath? Why do we help a muslim nation that "only seeks to kill all infedels and bathe in their blood" and then further their plight by using the tax money an American child could benefit from to fund this other place to be like us? Why do we support a country like Saudi Arabia fuiscally, and then complain that one cant enter the country with an Israeli passport?

If we hate Muslims so bad and we know they are coming after us, why then do we support them to carry out their agendas?

217

I am sorry hershel you are ignorant to fact. I watched it unfold before my eyes. Many of the readers here attacked Mr. Kurian solely on the basis of his race, and compared the minority accomplishments of the jews to the minority accomplishments of the black Africans in this country. I have a comparasion, what about the accomplishments of Bugsy Seigel? Certianly we can carry an arguement for eons about the behaviours and misbehaviours of any given people. We can also debate the numbers and statistical amount of people who got racial, but the fact remains that it happened. How do you legitimize this behaviour by announcing that it was only a "small percentage" that did so? It was tragic that any of the people here who are supposed to be "a cut above" would stoop to that almost KKK level to get a point across. It demeaned any point we had.

As for tolerance, yes I aM NOT ignorant to Islam. As a matter of fact I understand it well. I am a victim of it. I will tell you all matter of factly that we soon become the mirror image of wht we hate unless we decide otherwise.

205 Parker in US

Hmmm. A mass conversion. Well, I dont know what you would call a preemptive invasion of a nation of 60,000,000 people but it smacks of some kind of conversion. And if you listen to these bloggers next stop for the USA is to Preemptively invade Iran and Syria. That might qualify as a mass conversion. Certianly we are not there to install religion, however if you want to increase fanaticism you can do no better than our behaviour now. I can just see some imam saying that thisd is a modern day crusade and we have empirically nade their point for them.

Yes, I know I am an uneducated, misinformed troll. I will remind you that I am Lebanese Armenian adopted by an Irish family here in America. I have suffered tragedy, but this right wing logic I read daily is smacking of facism to me. Be careful what you wish for.

I have watched Stolen Honor.

I see the day that will come Kerry will be put on the same level of dishonor as Custor. That he will be stripped of all merit and acknowledgement and remembered only in disgrace.

I want to know why this cretin was not prosecuted by our government for treason and sedition? Why wasn't Fonda, Hayden and McCarthy charged and prosecuted. They are still just as guilty now as the day they crossed that line.

We may be facing the real prospect of having a traitor as the President of this country.

Oh how by a miracle that a MIA would just appear about now! That would be the end of Kerry.

I vote we smite the islamofascist camel jockeys first. We need to make a big flat glassy-spot where the cities the terrorists were hiding used to stand (after warning the innocent locals first, of course). We'll use French plutonium and say a suicide bomber set it off when we tried to capture him and the bomb. The bomber will also be Iranian, just to earn it a third column in the grey lady.

All joking aside, I think it's time to get inside their heads.

zombie (#226),

LGF invades the NY Times!

Two LGF-related items in the NY Times right now:

Sweet!

reason--#238--ah--the lebanese thing--charming society--cute civil war--the reason fot the invasion was not to convert islamists--but to kill the fantasy of arab nationalists and jihadists that the slaves and purveyors of these sociopathies will not be permitted to act on them without taking a dirt nap--it didn't take long for quadaffai to become a non-middle eastern berber once he saw saddam in the spider hole--you will not fuck with the united states--you will die if you do-- we are not europe--we are in the jacksonian/sherman lincolnesque tradition of decisive battle and total war--you will be annihilated if you fuck with us --you can believe any shit you want but you act on it at your peril--don't tread on me arab/muslim boy--the flower of your manhood is either at our feet or at our throat--i prefer you sniff my toes achmed--take a deep breath--it may be your last

reason #230

You really should have brought along your own personal violin.
Do you really think you're the only unique poster with such a history?

No hanky for you!

#233 Geepers:

Links! Links, please!

234, 235

Ahhh. My point reduced to my plight. How immature of you all. Argue the points.

i only laid in my background because of someones stupid observation that I don't understand Islam. Riiighhht..

234 You sound especially aggressive and defensive over a debate. I will not stoop to that level to prove my point. Please, keep it on an adult level.

235 It makes anything you have to say even more pathetic after a personal attack. I would not do that to you.

#236 foreign devil 

#233 Geepers:
Links! Links, please!

See my post #226 for both links.

#226 zombie:

My last post should have been to you. Do you have a couple of links for the NYT articles?

#238 zombie:

Thanks! Oh, brother! I think our posts crossed and I posted to you before your post to me about the links came through. Got it now, thanks!

#239 foreign devil --
I used my time-travel machine to answer your question before you posted it.

Answers to post #243

a. Yes
b. No

Questions for zombie:
a. Do you really have a time travel machine?
b. Was it a smart thing to reveal this fact to everyone?

zombie,

Stop referring to yourself in future tense, you're supposed to be the Living dead.

reason #237

Sorry bub, patronization will still get you no hanky.

#244 Geepers --
In order not to freak you out, I've decided to turn off the machine and answer your post in the normal time-sequence.

You see, being dead, I can move freely back and forth along the "arrow of time" temporal continuum. It's one of the few perks of not dwelling among the alive.

Plus, we've got a lot of nice raisins up here! I'd say about 72 or so per undead entity. Sometimes they're even gin-soaked, which helps my aching skeletal fingers.

245

Check my post, I never asked for one. I just pleaded for tolerance. You uber nazis preach nej. You sound no better than the European host countries you hate. I am sorry I was created, but here I am.

Your so tough where are you in the ME? Coward. You are blogging from somewhere safe.

Promo's for ABC radio (Australia )
Arab male voice "We hate America because it has not done enough to support democracy in the Middle East'-yes-
you read correctly.

For G-ds sake return George Bush and lets show them democracy- first clean out the rats nest in Falujah and sister cities

Well it was only a matter of time:

Bush to Repeal Voting Rights for Blacks, Women

Well that is some religion. Is it possible that islam is actually the religion of Lucifer?
What a bunch of sick primitive morons - please let's have a few thousand finished off for Ramadan say in Falujah and just south of Bagdad.

To think that these people believe all this shit - what kind of education do they get?

Zombie:

Good one! You were very measured and made good points! Good review and I gave you a "Yes". You've now got almost all the stars. We're proud of you for many reasons, zombie; this is just one more.

#251 foreign devil--
awww shucks...[blushes...]

#249 Geepers

ROFLOL!!

I wouldn't put it past them. Nice to have a laugh after seeing Lawrence O'Donnell go psychotic on John O'Neill tonight - just watched the late feed as I couldn't believe it the first time!

hector (#250),

To think that these people believe all this shit - what kind of education do they get?

Mostly they memorize the koran. Those that can read that is.

And just a quick look at the koran demonstrates how logic and islam are completely incompatible.

#192 reason

Many muslims that have money dont behave this way. Only the poor depraved muslims act this way to cover the despair in their lives. similiar to Americans ghettos and religion is their crutch. Many rich or wealthy muslims i know drink do drugs party and are gay as well. We tend to accept this media image of muslims, just as many here are critical of the media stereotypes of jews.

Frankly, this is not only a major cop out - but the repetition of a canard. The bulk of the leaders of the islamofacists aren't poor, aren't uneducated, and are't depraved. They are educated, upper middle class to priviledged, and see themselves as rulers of their caliphates and that their destiny is to establish a new greater Islam leadership that extends beyond the lands achieved in the 8th-12th centuries.

Religion isn't a crutch - it's a tool to use to find fodder to fulfill their goals just as the Nazi's used nationalism. In fact, islamofasicism is only Nasser's nationalism V2 - a hybrid of communism and islam to steal what isn't there, and to prop up an elite leadership.

You claim you are Lebanese - and a victim of Islam - so where is your outrage over the occupation and subjugation of your homeland by the Baathist dictator in Syria who plots with Iranian islamofasicst puppets in the south who revel in the death of Christians all in the name of power and Islam?

Are you one of the thousands who lost their backbone along with the ability to reason and deduce that nobody is owned something unless they take the time and effort to EARN it?

I can just see some imam saying that thisd is a modern day crusade and we have empirically nade their point for them.

Actually, on every Friday, there are dozens of islamofasicsts and tools that make this claim. They expect a crusade to fight their invasion - only the political correctness and neutering caused by the el cubos / socialists hides that fact.

They make their own point, every Friday, and with every innocent victim that they murder in the so-called name of Islam. We didn't ask for this fight - but after decades of attacks - we are now going to fight - and bring the fight to those leaders / states that oppose the basic rights of people and the basic freedoms. There are repercussions for actions.

#147 Reason

Talk to the Moslems about tolerance, eh?

#247, not #147.

Sorry.

floranista (#253),

See it here:

Lawrence O'Donnell's preferred debating technique, shouting Liar! Liar! Liar!

255

Intersting have anyone her said anything ever positive about Islam? 'I suppose it is worthy of nothing except hate and destruction.

I lost my parents to this but am willing to forget. I don't understand a people who cannot. Grow up. Move on. I don't take what I read here as complete fact, I use a degree of skepticism in formulating my opinion.

If I use your opinion I should be bombing every mosque in sight. Soley for the fact that their ambition is to convert us all to Islam. How convenient. Hasn't happened. Waiting for this apocolyptic day with trepedation.

Find some more proof this is fact and I will agee to you. this does not include stupid websites or random quotes from the Qur'an.

#268 Geepers

The Democrats are going to do anything to keep soldiers and veterans from voting. This every-vet-is-a-liar-but-Kerry strategy is not very well conceived.

#258 Geepers

Thanks for the photo link - yes, that is what he looked like - did you see it?

On the positive side I believe it earned the Swifties mucho $$$$$ tonight; I know many LGFers contributed.

I guess L.O. is not the master debator Francoise Kerry is!

#259 reason
You are beginning to sound anything but reasonable. I just got up from my nap. Maybe you should take yours.

Islam cannot be judged based on the actions of its followers, what they say, or the Koran, but you want proof. Any particular form of proof which would be acceptable, short of flaming letters in the sky?

262

Interesting you are all so stallwart against Islam, but enjoy gasoline, crude, and even Nike from their coutries.

I have visitied Indonesia with my Christian Gfriend. I know how Islamists behave. My point to you all is you have no recourse against them, and as a matter of fact all of our (western) moves help their plight.

I am sure someone here will paint me sympathetic to their plight and that is so perfectly wrong. I am so disgruntled I cannot explain. However, The spineless bitching rants I read here are useless and my blogs try to prove that point. I was in Jakarta for the Christmas bombings at my mates church and realised 90 percent of people are full of shit. Tallk the talk and miss the walk. Whre are all of you people that hate me?

How about the west celebrates Bush's re-election by killing a few thousand muslim cockroaches anywhere they are convenient targets.

I'd quite like to see a bit of napalm spread around the Temple Mount during ramadan.

debka is reporting that Arafat is really sick. I hate to get my hopes up only to have them dashed later. :-(

reason-lite #247

Aren't you a hoot. Calling me an uber nazi because I said you've earned no hanky.

You've done nothing but whine and seethe on this thread.
I don't know what you expected, but apparently you're not a happy camper over the response you've been getting.

Keep on, and some of the truly talented on this blog will give you a good turning over. Which is what you're used to anyway, flip flopping all over the place.
It doesn't matter where we are posting from, as far as walking the walk as well as talking the talk.
Some folks are just all mouth.

If everyone here is soooo strong go to an Islamic coutry and exert yourselves. I did.

I love the fact that I am the bad guy for doing this. In addition to losing my parents to Islamists, I have to take this shit.

Oh, I am sorry I need a violin. way to move the plight forward. What a way to make someone care not.

To 263.....

Friend.......you of all people, as an Armenian, know what Islam has done to your people.......the first genocide of last century in 1915......earlier masscres by Turks in 1885 or so.......

I must say, we do not hate muslims per se......we hate what drives Muslims.......and that is Islam.....surely you know the Quran and the hadiths and the general scheme of Islam?? And you are thus awarre of Muhammed's brutal teachings and doctrines and actions 1400 years ago???

I will never hate the people that blindly follow this ideology.........but I do loathe the blindness that has overcome them for 1400 years to behave so often in the most beastil manners!!!

Indeed, many brave Muslims are discovering this too by leaving Islam.......in Iran alone millions have left islam and millions more are indifferent to this Arab Imperialism!!

The Pen is very mighty in our battle against Islam...and sadly, when we have to use the sword.......then we have to.........

Thanks

266 sweetness

Go to sleep with no worries, and pleeeeeez stay out of it you are obviously postin here so fuck ooffff. Illl deal with you when you have dealt with losing your life, coward.

269

How dare yu? Do you wish that we all should die?

My point to you all is you have no recourse against them, and as a matter of fact all of our (western) moves help their plight.

That is the worst bit of "reasoning" I've ever read in my life. You advocate surrender as the only option to opposing jihad.

I think killing them is a better option. When they make more jihadis, we kill them also. And so on. This may take some time.

reason #269

As you are not the owner of this thread or this weblog, you're in no position to be telling anyone to sod off.
As to you losing your parents to islam, you are not the only poster on this blog to have lost someone this way. There are quite a few here as a matter of fact. And ain't none of them carrying around a violin either.

One other thing, you have no way of knowing factually if I am a coward or not. And as to dealing with me, you're not G-d either.

From the looks of the deterioration of your spelling and your grammer I would suggest that maybe you need to turn off your computer and get a nap.

And really! No hanky for you.

The noose tightens, Deal.....

Reading over at Debka, it looks as though arafat is in deep trouble. Whether he lives or not, it looks as though Al Qaeda is moving in on his territory. The reports of the bombings in the Sinai are suggesting they are same kind of remote car bombs used by Al Qaeda at the Kobar Towers, instead of suicide bombers.

www.debka.com

OT
Another WW2 diary has been revealed in Holland.

"The diary of a Jewish teenager girl on her three months in 1943 in a Nazi detention camp awaiting deportation has come to light in the Netherlands. Helga Deen describes the horrors of everyday life and watching children being sent to the death camps.

The diary ends with her own deportation to Sobibor where she died. The diary was kept with a lock of hair by her Dutch boyfriend until his death. War archivists say the discovery is unique"

Also via [Link: www.debka.com...]

#273 reason

The noose tightens, Deal.....

Fine, loose the Ohios. First target, Mecca. Second target, Medina. Third Target, Karachi. Fourth target, Teheran. Fifth Target, Damascus.

You think anyone here is scared of your precious jihadis? We're Americans, not prissy wankers.

OT

Local Bush/Cheney headquarters robbed

Demobanditos hit again

Now the Jerusalem Post says "just the flu"

Doctors to Check Arafat

Bummer.

275

Yup, my point exactly..