So many idiotarians to choose from and only one vote!

Ooh, Ooh! I got first! whoohoo! Go Skippy, Go Skippy!

Last year I pushed for George Soros to win, but this year I have to say that Dan Rather will have my vote.

Go Dan!

Well, geeze, judging from the previous thread I'd say somebody is trying to set up that worthless turd at the UN as IOTY!

What's next, we'll have to vote on Diebold machines?!

John Kerry oughtta be on the list. Dan Rather should win, mind you, but Kerry should get to run. And lose.

I didn't follow all the comments on the nomination thread, but John Kerry seems a noticable exclusion...

Per Fiskie tradition, I hope The Large One comes in second again...

Everyone who voted for John L. Kerry.?

I'm going for Dan Rather.

An embarrassment of riches, in a negative sorta way.

So many idiots, so few votes...

I nominate: Indy Media.

Quite a list you have going, Charles. Are you sure it isn't time to break the award into multiple categories? You could have best overall Fiskie, best supporting Fiskie, best NGO Fiskie, best newspaper Fiskie...

My vote goes to Michael Moore. I would have said Barbra Streisand, but she's suffere enough after realizing this year that she is a surplus to humankind.

My vote goes to Dan Rather.

The Democratic Underground must win. There is no larger more insane group of idiots on this or any other planet.

Mike7411

Okay, I remember the thread and John Kerry was nominated quite a few times, more than others above, what, Charles, feeling sorry for Kerry.

WHERE's KERRY?

I'd add Clare Short to the list.

I nominate Jan Egeland.

I've forgotten, what exactly is an Idiotarian again?

Springsteen! I used to love his music, still do some. But he's proved himself to be an idoit.

I'm with Bigel, in that Michael Moore is not an idiotarian. Is he capital E evil? No, just a selfserving, greedy, jacka$$. The dollar signs are appropriate, MM is ALL about the money (and the attention).

How about Canada?

Good list. Where is Moveon.org?
I still am rooting for George Soros, or George $oro$. He funded it all.

Charles,

What about Sandy Berger and "stuff yer shorts" -Gate

I'll probably end up voting for Rather, but Andrew Sullivan merits an honorable mention.

Kerry just doesn't seem like an idiotarian so much as an opportunistic, ambitious politician to me. If the consensus is to add him, I will -- but Dan Rather and Michael Moore and their ilk are much more in the idiotarian vein, I think.

is Carter ineligible this year?

John "Bring it on" Kerry

I'm fighting for you!
Commander Kerry reporting for duty!
I'm sure if you asked Mary Cheney, a lesbian, you know she's a lesbian
I wish people wouldn't bring up the past
Did you know I fought in Vietnam
I fought in Vietnam, I know how to lead
I can't talk about abortion except, the third world countries they need it for "unwanted children"
I know what it's like to lead in time of war
Did you know I served in Vietnam
The Swiftvets are liars, all liars
I voted for, before I voted against the 87 billion
Bush wants to secretly bring back the Draft
I served in Vietnam, not like those draft dodgers who went to Canada and those who were in the Guard

After lobbying hard for George "I fancied myself as some kind of god ... ,"... "If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble." Soros last year, this year I'm undecided (especially since my "Legacy Media" nomination didn't make the cut *sniff*). I'm torn!

Yep, one of the few rules is that you can only win once, so Carter is ineligible.

I'm going to have to really lean toward Kos. Hubby worked with one of the contractors that was supposed to be "screwed", and so Kos holds a special place in my anti-heart.

However, and I volunteer to help with this, multiple categories would make things more mentally smooth for me.

I'd even dress up in my computer using best to attend the ceremony!

Charles,

Your point is valid about Kerry, but he proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that even an opportunistic politician can be an idiot. He should be on the list, perhaps I would be the only one to vote for him, Free Kerry, Charles, let him be in the competition, come on Charles, Kerry needs a chance to win something this year...

What about Teraaayzuh?

I hestitate to mention what exactly my computer best is, but you wouldn't want to come over when I'm so attired.

OOH! Teresa Heinz! Wow, that's a good idea that didn't occur to me.

She at least deserves a lifetime achievement award.

What a distinguished list! Wow...that the year has produced such a plethora of LLL inanity and insanity!

One Kerry I wish was on the list was that sister of Jefin', Diane(?) Kerry..who tried to interfer in Australia's elections by saying Howard's support of GW made the Aussies a bigger target for terrorists.

Maybe a dishonorable mention category?

militarybrat, LOL!

Mister Daniel "Red" Rather-Blather, CBS Dick, has my vote

Ted Rall, hands down. His stink reeks far above even the pile of turds he's lumped in with. He's human garbage.

If Moore ingests one or more of the other nominees and then wins, whose name goes on the actual award?

Knee-jerk Democrats whose grandparents and parents voted for FDR...and haven't been able to think or vote for themselves since.

Idiots. I tell you.

D.R. gets my vote.

Linda Ronstadt--open mouth, insert foot, disgust your audience. We Blew By You!

Unlike Moore and Kerry, Annan seems to be genuinely stupid.

That's gotta count for something.

Well, I don't see Schmerel on the list so my vote:

For concentrating on GW Bush to the exclusion of JF Kerry,
For creating lies to try to derail Mr. Bush,
For knowingly using and promoting falsified documents against Mr. Bush,
For refusing to admit to and appologize for using forged documents even when faced with overwhelming evidence of the same,
and
For other crimes against humanity

Dan Rather.

Charles,

If #28 is to be taken as one vote for Carter, I would like to cast a second.

CHER, anyone?

You know, although there have been many incidences of "shake your head and sigh" behavior from Cleland, perhaps he deserves a "Fiskie Moment" award for his little letter delivery service.

and Oh... Tey-RAY-zah "shove it" Heinz Kerry should get the Missed Congeniality award.

Charles - a question:

I was looking for a good definition of 'idiotarian' (as opposed to an operating definition; i.e. Jimmy Carter). ESR defines 'idiotarian' as: "... the species of delusion within the moral community of mankind that gives aid and comfort to terrorists and tyrants operating outside it." Since you coined the term - do you agree with this definition?

I'd like to nominate Osama Bin Laden for:
1.Endorsing John Kerry just before the election.
2.Losing Afghanistan--- and helplessly watching democracy appear for the first time in recorded history at that location.
3. Worse for him yet--- women are voting.
4.There are now Jeep Cherokees riding around on the streets of Baghdad--- all thanks to OBL.
I know he's not really supposed to qualify for this award, but he is an Idiot anyway--- whether he's alive, or dead.
There. That's my rant.

Kofi Annan all the way. Who do I have to bribe this time?

ajackson: yes, that's a pretty good definition.

A lotta moonbats insulted they didn't make the list. Idiot wannabes... how weird is that?

I think Ted Rall deserves a special ring of hell.

Kofi could make a strong showing.

but its not over till the fat man explodes(Mr. Creosote aka Mik Al-Moore),he gets my vote

All those poor folk that paid big bucks of their hard earned money to see F/911 are the clear winners (losers)...

Moore travels/eats/sleeps well now thanks to them!

May I suggest George Galloway and Cynthia McKinney?

sorryeverybody.com and maureen dowd are at the top of my idiotarian of the year list.

I'm not exactly sure of what a Fiskie is, but I'll vot for... the suicide bomber.

Why is Baghdad Bob on the list? He's so 2003.

I really don't see John Kerry as being an idiot by any means; however, those Dems who voted for him in primaries thinking that we, the people, would somehow elect a Massachusetts liberal in these trying times...well, Im pretty sure they qualify as idiots. Kerry was just dancing with what brung him...

Now, having said that, Uncle Walter Cronkite gets my vote.

Well I think for getting the spirit of Robert "I deserved to be attacked" Fisk down to the last crossed 't' and dotted 'i', the "appologists" at SorryEverybody.com are winners, hands down.

Also you can't find a more purer supply of unending, gamey Morlock buttocks.

Dr. David Hailey? Nominated in the "Educator" category...

Whoopi Golberg

From the list I'd say Kofi Annan, Zapatero, DU,or the Guardian. They all take themselves way to seriously. But I think The Daily Mirror writers should be named Idiotarians of the Year for the cover of that one paper right after the election calling all Americans who voted for Bush stupid.
How can [insert # of leftist writers who work for Daily Mirror here] Be Such Idiotarians?

Annan, Annan!
He's our man!
Toss his worthless ass in the garbage can!

... the species of delusion within the moral community of mankind that gives aid and comfort to terrorists and tyrants operating outside it.

Right.

John Kerry

He was the idiot all the other idiots put their idiot effort toward.

MoveOn

JACK STRAW !

PLEEEASE!

#29 Bubble Girl

And don't forget the "Global Test"

SwissTex

If you go that route you might as well just say Hollywood.

Chevy Chase gave a good late shot at the list. But as usual, he doesn't even have the talent to carry off excellence in idiotarian speech.

Just realized this thread is for nominations

Egelund
McKinney
Wonkette

On second thought, perhaps the idiotarians truly worthy of the award are the ones who voted Cynthia McKinney back into office...

I would suggest others, but they already appear to be on the list.

Kofi deserves an lifetime achievement award for his Jackson Hole ski trip while the poor of the world were drowning.

This guy is in a different class from the Frankens and Springsteens of this world. He's up there with Nero.

The BBC should be mentioned, but Kofi is truly the biggest world-class loser on the list.

{subliminal message} Vote Kofi Annan, Idiotarian of the year. Vote Kofi Annan, Idiotarian of the year. Vote Kofi Annan, Idiotarian of the year. Vote Kofi Annan, Idiotarian of the year. Vote Kofi Annan, Idiotarian of the year. Vote Kofi Annan, Idiotarian of the year. {/subliminal message}

In related news, the Du is having a run off between Lenin and Kerensky. Lenin is winning.

Here I'd insert a rolling eyes smiley, if we had 'em, which we dont. But that's a good thing.

Poll question: Kerensky or Lenin?

Lifetime Idiotarian Award:

Jesse "It ain't over yet"' Jackson

Talentless Sean John "Vote or Die" Puffy Combs Jr.

I'd like the chance to vote for Kerry before I vote against him. Again.

#80 Smit

1. Kerensky was a warmongerer.

Lenin supported peace.

LMAO! It's a wonder these people remember to breathe.

Warmongererererer!

#58 jelo

All those poor folks that paid big bucks of their hard earned money...

You're absolutely correct that they deserve to be considered, but who said it was "their" money? It was probably our tax money they received from some government program or other.

The key to being like Fisk, is an ability to repeatedly misrepresent the facts, repeatedly vilify the innocent, and repeatedly excuse the evil cruelty of the terrorists, and yet, do it with a blissful ignorant confidence, with no hint that you even realize, one bit, how ignorant and insane you really are.

Who but Michael Moore can fill those big shoes, in 2004?

Ted Rall. He is beneath contempt. Pure evil.

Oh and the Guardian cartoonist... whatsisname... Steve Bell?
Or would he come collectively under The Guardian?

Slightly OT:

Last night on the BBC's Winners and Losers 2004 awards...

Michael Moore was a LOSER!
Dubya was a WINNER!

I was gonna also nominate the BBC for the Fiskie award, but after that I dont think I'll bother!

Charles, how many times can I vote (not necessarily for the same person)? Thanks.

Do I need to register and show proof of residence first? :)

Is it just me or are these LLL types out of their freakin' minds! Lenin or Kerinsky! These people's heros are commies for crying out loud!

I want to add one to the list - the Blue States.

Dan Rather for the Fiskie!

Last year, I went for the whole UN.

But this year, Kofi is the entire package. Width, breadth and depth of idiocy, a bucketful of corruption, two blind eyes. He the perfect candidate.

This year, I'm with Kofi. If he wins, can we throw him the f**k out?

#80 Smit

I would have shot em both.

Sorry, I can't remember the guy's name: The British newpaper columnist who regretted that there was not an American-president assassinator on hand.

Can't think how to google this.

Somebody remember?

#73 theparson

Hi parson!

{{{theparson}}}

Hollywood is in a class by itself, and should have its own catagory. They are just reading script to be liked and invited to the right parties.
The media and political types on the other hand, are far more dangerous, as people take what they say literally. People who watch 60min II for example whould have believed blather and his fake but accurate.
I could be bribed.

Okay, so far it looks like I've got Smit, Thom, and Powderfinger with me on the Kofi vote. Who else?

Charles, when do we vote and where did the polls go?

Hi, Skippy!

{{{Skippy}}}

He can't win, but anyway I wish belatedly to nominate Bernard Bot, the Foreign Minister of the Netherlands.

After Beslan, the European Union issued a "please explain" to the Russians. Bernard Bot, the Foreign Minister of the Netherlands, holding the EU presidency, said it: "all countries in the world need to work together to prevent tragedies like this. But we also would like to know from the Russian authorities how this tragedy could have happened." (link)

I thought this, demanding explanations from the victims rather than those behind the killers, was the most offensive statement of moral idiocy in 2004.

Unfortunately EU flacks are unfairly disadvantaged as idiotarian nominations, because they're so dull and replaceable. Collectively, the EU line is disgusting, but individuals don't stand out, that's the EU way. However on this occasion Mr. Bot excelled himself.

John Edwards for commenting, "Vote for John Kerry--- and the crippled will walk again".

Zulubaby

I love you, ZB but I gotta stick with Rather.

#94 mollyb

Charlie Brooker

Here is what remains of his article:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

:)

#94 mollyb
Charlie Brooker.
[next to last paragraph]

Groups should be excluded. Indy and DU influenced who?

Lawrence O’Donnell

Hmm ... are the mentally ill eligible? That seems vaguely cruel or something ...

If Jimmy Carter and Robert Byrd were not so pathetically senile, they'd deserve to be on the list this year too.

#101 theparson

Rather isn't really an idiotarian, is he? Malicious, a liar, and a fraud ... but idiotarian?

I vote for a Dan Rather/John Kerry tie.

Dan's humiliation symbolically marked the end of the unchallenged dominance of the leftist media. Kerry's defeat symbolized the practical consequence of this decline as Democrats were scrambling to come up with a distinct message that didn't sound totally insane.

The poverty of the leftist voice, both official and grassroots, was pointed up by the undeniable sogginess of the Kerry campaign where the best the former communist sympathizer could do was to say of a Republican "I'd do what he's doing, only better."

The grassroots left have simply parted ways with reality and signalled this too many times to the general public with their frightening and childish hatefests.

What is it about dressing up like freaks and calling the President a "Nazi" that you thought would appeal to voters?

Rather/Kerry for Fiskie idiotarians 2004!

UN SEC GEN Kofi Annan gets my vote. I would vote for Kerry, but I want to see him come in second again.

#97 zulubaby

I'm willing to lobby. I will also conduct electioneering within 100 feet of the polling place.

I'm on a mission. For Kofi...

#84 Thom - It's a pity they remember to breath... takes all sorts I s'pose ;-)

#93 TotallySiriius - Lenin, for sure. I had never read the communist manifesto until about two weeks ago. I recomend it. It's flippin' hilarious.

Maybe #14 is right, it might be time to have categories.

Like:
Politician IOTY
Celebrity IOTY
Group IOTY
etc.

After the other night with his Swift Veterans are scum comments, I nominate GORDON

Dan Rather, not because there are no other deserving candidates, but because he definitely "stepped on it" more than anyone else.

I'd go for MM, but as a previous post suggested, he doesn't need any more "awards". It is better that he is IGNORED for life.

Kerry is a politician, so he just did what politicians do.

.jax

Dan Rather is certainly a prize clot but too irrelevant outside of the USA. Claire Short is definitely the sort of thing that you wouldn't want to tread on because she would muck up your shoes but basically she's insignificant. I'd hate to give Michael Moore even more publicity.

So for a truly world class Idiotarian who manages so well to combine an evil ineffectiveness with blind stupidity, all in an air of total hypocricy and a sea of corruption, it's got to be Kofi.

Thom, work your magic on theparson.

I don't agree that Kerry should be included. He's not significant enough. He's not exactly influencing world events here.

At any rate, back to the crucial question:

Kerensky or Lenin?

What no Krugman?

#116 zulubaby

I'll do what I can.

Maybe if dear ol' Kofi wins, one of the NYers will deliver his statue in person!

#107 Thom

Rather isn't really an idiotarian, is he? Malicious, a liar, and a fraud ... but idiotarian?

To whom on this list would these attributes not apply?

Jesse Jackson should be a perpetual nominee,as well as Hillary,Nostrilitis Waxmann,TK and Al Sharpton

I'm with Thom. Rather isn't an idiotarian. Dan-o knew exactly what he was doing. His idiocy is restricted to his thinking that he wouldn't be questioned.

That's ivory tower mentality, not real idiocy.

That is a very hard list to choose from... But I have to choose "Sorryeverybody.com" because that is the largest database of complete itiots I have ever encountered.

I don't see how anyone (with the exception of the saudi royal family) could beat mikey moore!

"The game is in the refrigerator... The Jell-O is jiglin', the eggs are coolin', and the butter is getting hard..."

Clare Short. The centerfold for a form over substance mag.

Michael Moore

Good night all and have a happy new year!

#116 zulubaby

He's not exactly influencing world events here.

That's a significant consideration. Rather just embarassed himself. Kofi is actively screwing the world up.

Jimmah won for screwing the world up. St Pancake won for being breathtakingly stupid. Kofi is both, plus dirty, it seems.

I forgot:

Vote Kofi. Corruption & self-righteousness with a victim complex. Idiotarian par excellence.

Vote Kofi.

I would like to nominate Al Jazeera.

#120 theparson

Maybe Charles can weigh in again, but for me "idiotarian" has an ineffable air of schtoopidity about it. Like the Idiotarian Extraordinaire, Robert Fisk.

Rather lacks that air. He's just a partisan hack.

So, of the ones on the list I'd include people such as:

Jacques Chirac
Bruce Springsteen
SorryEverybody.com
Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero
Noam Chomsky
Sean Penn
(et al)

You know, dumbasses like that.

I agree that John "I actually voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it" Kerry should be nominated.

I would also like to nominate:

Teresa "Let them go naked" Heinz-Kerry

Richard "I tried to warn them" Clark

#102 Wicksy
#103 J.D.

Thanks for the Charlie Brooker reminder (ew, ick!). I'll go reread.

Can we add him, Charles? Maybe a nomination will stop him from growing into one of these big-league, capital "f" Fiskie-types.

Prof. Robert Jensen isn't eligible. He was OBVIOUSLY working for Karl Rove's Republican Voter Turnout Team. Jensen did a fantastic job too.

After the other night with his Swift Veterans are scum comments, I nominate GORDON

chewydog, Gordon is too stupid!

--

Powderfinger, I'm relying on you ... Last year I desperately wanted Kofi to win, offered bribes, etc., and it still didn't pan out. I feel more confident this time around with you, Smit and Thom campaigning with me.

Thom

Continue, I'm listening.

#85 braindirt

Don't know whose money was spent, but I really meant "Fools" rather than "poor folk'.

2004 LGF Robert Fisk Award for Idiotarian of the Year (“Fiskie” for short).

Moore and Rather should not be classified as Idiotarians, they are much worse.

I stand by my nomination of the "Fools".

I'm putting in my vote early for the 2008 Fiskie: Al Gore--- he's apparently going to run again.

Is it too late to nominate Geraldine Ferraro? She is on Hannity and Colmes now saying the Swift ads were fundamentally untrue, and that Kerry was viciously attack with a bunch of lies, and Bush was given a pass... that woman deserves a nomination!

#123 splutnik
"Sorryeverybody.com"

LOL... good call!

zulubaby, I think having Kofi and the UN on the ballot last year split the vote. I went with the UN as a whole. But Kofi has exceeded expectations this year, and I am totally in his camp.

Of course, Ms. Corrie was not undeserving of the Fiskie...or a Darwin award.

#135 theparson

Aw crud, I thought I was done...

But, umm ... ahem ... yes, ah - to continue:

The one person in the year 2004 CE who simply oozes schtoopidity is indubitably Kofi Annan.

I would vote for the arafish (stinking head), but he was truely evil and he's still dead.
So I am considering backing the nomination of Cynthia McKinney, but she's just a small frog in a large schmucky pond.
That leads me to consider then either the Shoemaker from Spain or Dumber than Dumb from the U.N.

By the way, and completely off topic, when I post, preview something or even look at comments at Little Green Footballs, I get a list of username choices, all the same of course: David_Blue. That list of one repeated name is growing longer and longer. I can't delete the items on the growing list. Does anybody else have this problem, or better yet, a cure for it?

(This is in Mozilla. It goes "Select User Select a username to be entered on this form." According to Form Manager, I have no information on Little Green Footballs to edit. And the problem affects only this site.)

I'm really torn this year between Rather, Kofi, and the SoSorry people. We yeally do need separate categories!

Well, because of my great respect for Zulubaby and Thom's compelling arguments I do hereby cast my vote for

Coffi Annon.

quark2, IIRC, I nominated the shoemaker.

Vote Kofi.

#145 theparson

Woo hoo!

Powderfinger (#140)

zulubaby, I think having Kofi and the UN on the ballot last year split the vote.

LOL, the first thing I did was scroll down the list to see if Charles had split it again but bless him, he hadn't. I think we stand a far better chance this time.

Ted Rall is "Douche" of the Year

#80

LOL! Oh, my God. You weren't kidding. Thank you!

"Lenein wanted the rich to be poor by redistribution of wealth." leads by a wide margin!

What a bunch of unreconstructed dolts.

Left= resentment, bitterness, and spite directed towards all who seek to be good, strong, upright, brave, virtuous, thrifty, hardworking, enterprising ect...

Skippy

You might as well jump on the Coffi train.

theparson, awesome!

Thom ... changing one mind at a time. Gotta love him.

I vote for Dan Rather. Although I think Kofi Annan is definitely a second choice.

Ummm, can we have pictures...the Post Office walls, in my town, are barren. Trouble is, each of these individuals are so good at what they do...then again, What do they do?

Ummm, can we vote more then once...like say the do in the King County, State of Washington, or any other leftists bastion?

Charles, where is the list of prior winners?

Also, how about doing it as a poll, with radio buttons for each of the nominees? Open only to registered lizards, of course.

Mo Dowdie for me--does anybody hate themselves as much?

1. Dan (Courage) Rather
2. Koffee Cup
3. Michael (Beached whale) Moore

Wow! Australian-born idiotarian makes it big on the international stage!

Pilger deserves to be nominated for his comments that coalition troops are "legitimate targets", and that other terrorist attacks are more or less what should be expected.

Mark Latham probably deserves a dishonourable mention too. Zapatero merely had policies the terrorists preferred, and got into office as a result, and carried out those policies. Latham decided (with no consultation with party members) to introduce a policy of "Troops out of Iraq by Christmas" days after Madrid.

Colleen McCullough deserves a mention for semi-original idiotarianism for saying "It's Polynesian to break your girls in at 12." in criticising the jailing of Pitcairn Islander sex offenders.

Ward

It doesn't matter, Diebold already has the results!

I know that you can only win it once, but Jimmy Carter continues to out do himself every year. I think he should be the first to get a "Fiskie Lifetime Achievement Award". From his mishandling of the Iran situation in the 70's to his election monitoring this year, he has been consistently defining what it means to be an "Idiotarian" in four separate decades. Who else has such a record?

Powderfinger:

Jimmah won for screwing the world up. St Pancake won for being breathtakingly stupid. Kofi is both, plus dirty, it seems.

All good points. I hope everyone is paying attention!

Looks like our strongest competition is coming from the Dan Rather camp.

Please consider Norm Mineta. He is idiotarian through and through.

I would have voted for Annan last year but unfortunately for him he was running against a moron of breathtaking proportions who got herself pancaked defending a weapons smuggling tunnel.

Charles, how about replacing the Christmas tree at the top of the page with party hats, confetti, and champagne glass.

Dan Rather has my vote. He could have saved himself from the humiliation of looking stupid at so many points of the saga but no, trashing the president (in the middle of a war, less than two months before the election) was more important than his own reputation.

(If the MSM had actually been fair, or barring that, at least balanced [providing both left and right views], can you imagine what the election result would have been? I am still amazed that given the bias, President Bush still won decisively--it gives me hope for our country's future.)

I mean, how can anyone compete with that?!

Tough choice between Kofi and Dan, however Kofi will be around 2 more years..See no reason why he wont be nominated next year

I agree that Moore is pure evil and malevolence...i feel that to earn a Fiskie,some degree of idiocy is necessary as well as the ability to take oneself seriously, even when it requires believing biarre delusions... Dans " fake but accurate" explanation with a straight face and Kofis "Kojo disappointment "speech are in the parthenon of lunacy

Dan gets my vote-anyone who broadcasts 40 years of moonbat mental illness earns it

#162 Brenda

Ooooh, good point! Mineta is definitely an idiotarian.

Oh, man. LGF and 3 hours of The 3 Stooges! Life is good.

#136 jelo
I think your "poor fools" includes "useful idiots". They're definitely in the running.

Just a thought...lets not forget the Presbyterian Church

For those that regret not having Carter to kick around anymore, you might consider giving Ramsey Clarke your sympathy vote.

#169 theparson

A Stooges fan! No wonder you're so wise, intelligent, and reasonable.

Who's your favorite?

Thom
That's easy, Curly, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

If nukes go off during 2005 I'll feel remiss for not mentioning Mohammed "smoke 'em if you got 'em" al-Baradei. Kofi and Mohammed might finally get a nuclear war kick-started. It takes a village of idiots.

#174 theparson

Have you considered the serene sublimeness of, say ... Larry?

Happy New Year, Charles!

I love your list and would like to throw Bev Harris - the Queen of Black Box Voting into the mix.

Otherwise - Perfect!

Dasher

#169 theparson

On what channel?

I remember as a kid watching the Stooges before school, on Slam Bang Theater, on the old KTVT-11, when it was an independent station. This was in the mid- to late '60s.

Thom

I love Larry, Moe is great but, Curly... he's the man.

O, a wise guy, eh, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!

Decisions, decisions! So much serious fun. :)

@160

This is true, there' ll never be another Dimbulb "Peanut Head Carter. :)

I would add as potential nominees both Conyers and Waters. They are going to upset the EC counting on Jan 6th and are the new darlings over at DU. They are being setup to be the new "gutsy" Dems.

But truly when the voting takes place it will no doubt be DU. That vote at leasts bundles quite a bunch of idiots at one time

#178

Oh yeah, Dallas-Ft Worth station.

Ward Cleaver

It's on AMC. I can't believe you said Slam Bang Theatre. I used to watch it everyday before I went to school in the 60's. You live in Dallas or Ft Worth?

May I suggest Elanor Clift be added to the list.

#179 theparson

And such a wild ladies' man in real life. Man.

Will there be "newly found" votes after the election?

Isn't it sad that there are so many choices? Count me in for people voting to split up into catagories.

I would vote for Dan Rather, but his actions were merely boneheaded and stupid. He may have tried to sway the election, but at least he didn't try to buy it outright. Give it Soros. To try so hard for so bad a cause and still lose? Priceless.

1. Pig-woman Suha Arafat

2. AFP (French press agency)

3. Jonathan Demme (for directing the abominable "Manchurian Candidate" and leaving out the commie badguys)

4. Frank Rich (NYTimes)

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OK,
do I fold the ballot and stuff it in the disk drive, or does Charles put a punch ballot on the site and I punch a hole in the monitor trying to ensure the chads are broke free?

# 111:

"#93 TotallySiriius - Lenin, for sure. I had never read the communist manifesto until about two weeks ago. I recomend it. It's flippin' hilarious. "

"The Communist Manisfesto" is by Karl Marx

Lenin wrote things like "Imperialism: the Highest Phase of Capitalism"

They both qualify as chief Idiotarians of the previous two centuries, if you ask me.

new york times...they ain't on the list...neither is krugman, course he's part of the nyt...

Based on the Idiotarian Dictionary definition...preponderance of evidence, weigh's in michael moore's direction.

I would like to nominate Eminem. That fucker has now completely sold out. He is bought for and OWNED by the media corps and Hollywood.

Thom

Curly is my favorite stooge, too! (Good choice, Parson!)

As for the Fiskie---MY MAIN WOMAN, SUHA-HA ARAFAT, FOR THE FISKIE! GO, SUHA-HA, GO!

What, no (I make porn star wannabees have sex with midgets) Howard Stern ?

I really feel that Kerry should get it because of all of the moonbattery that took place trying to get him into office.

I have to vote for Dan Rather because the TANG memo story is the prime example of moonbattery on Kerry's behalf and as a lifetime achievement/retirement/we won't get to vote for him again award.

#183 theparson

Outside of Dallas now. Lived in Dallas (in Lakewood) then. I was actually on the birthday program that Icky Twerp (Bill Camfield) hosted, twice. Once as the friend of an honoree (a best friend of mine), and once as a stand-in when they didn't have enough kids to fill the studio.

I feel so honored that I got to meet Icky Twerp. Ha!

#90 theparson, but there aren't any blue states, only blue counties. :o)

I'd vote for Ramsey Clarke, for the obvious reason of him choosing to be a lawyer for Saddam Hussein.

I feel like the kid who found the key to the candy store.
I think I'll have one of each.

#192 Elcid

Heck, given MM's mass nearly everything weighs in his direction.

MM has his own event horizon.

Ward Cleaver

Wow! A real Icky Twerp veteran. I am impressed.

Too many good candidates this year. They never disappoint us.

May we vote for more than one, Charles?

Ward

We need to get with texanista and find out how many North Central Texans we have here. Maybe we can have a get-together.

Wait a sec...I got another whopper.

What about Charlie Rangle for the draft bill he authored and did NOT vote for.

A side order of MTV for the assist.

The Christmas tree just turned into a party hat and champagne. Will the little green football drop?

Claire Short? Or is too late to nominate? She won't win probably but I'd be proud to put her on that list.

Kofi. He can actually stand there with his face hanging out, claiming his lack of knowledge over Oil for Food. Any decent leader or CEO I am aware of sure as heck KNOW where that kind of money is and has gone. To top it off, he let his own son be sacrificed to this altar (no loss in and off himself), but that says alot of Mr. KA.
If the man cannot get behind his own son, (even the critter this guy apparently is) = not even a little bit, how would we expect him to get behind a world. I know I am not putting this all well, but he is a disgusting human. His own people are dying and he has not lifted a finger. Now, is he trying to 'bring the world together' to help with this disaster.
Oops! Too late. He and that so=called UN could have and should have had a whole lot more at the ready for such emergencies anyhow. They have to money - but, I guess it takes some time to get it out of the Swiss bank accounts.
Nope - Kofi it is!

Ward Cleaver

You got your wish for graphics update.

Charles, you sure know how to do things sir. Very nice!

200 Darleen

Heck, given MM's mass nearly everything weighs in his direction.

I knew someone would catch it...you Darleen are the winnah', congratulations...you've won a completely paid for subscription tooo, LGF...;). Ummm, gee, LGF doesn't have a subscription, BUT you are still a winnah'...Happy New Year, Darleen...:).

Well in two hours and 5 minutes, EST, anyway.

Kofi Annan is clearly the biggest idiot on the list. He does more to harm the US and right thinking globally than any one else on there.

As much as I would like to get soK alone and get him to say "screw them" so I could stomp his ass into the ground, in all reality, he is nothing more than a bothersome flea.

The biggest ommision from the list is the entire democrat party and every person who voted for yrreK. Foulest pack of dumb asses.

So many worthy candidates! Still, I have to vote Michael Moore, the big tuna himself. I think that "Farhenheit 9/11" backfired and cost the Dems many votes despite all the MSM praise and hype. This Bud's for you Mikey.

Still, I wish we could vote for more than one candidate; we need catagories: i.e. politics, media, Hollywood, academia, etc., to give proper reognition to all the moonbats.

P.S. I'm giving an advance nomination to Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-Saudi Arabia) for the 2005 Fiskie. I think she'll be a frequent (and hilarious) topic of discussion on LGF in the coming year.

Happy New Year to everyone!

Kevin Sites could use an (dis)honorable mention somewhere, but Michael Moore would still be my vote.

Maybe I should break out the shovel and dig up some dead relatives so I can get some extra votes...

Well, if this is packaged by weight and not volume, al-Michael Moore-on is my pick. but if he doesn't win, he should at least get Miss Congeniality.
Any of these F*cks will do, however.

I nominate Bashar Al-Assad. I don't want him to win but he certainly is deserving for an honorable mention.

#211 Paul

So many worthy candidates! Still, I have to vote Michael Moore, the big tuna himself.

He's Moore of a whale. ;)

Michael Moore hands down, but Ramsey Clark came in swinging with a powerful last-minute candidacy that will keep the race pretty tight

The DU is too large and anonymous to win. To their credit, a few of them do have some brains. My nomination is Barbara Plett, crying for her Arafish on the Beeb!

I would vote for Fat Mike from the band NOFX, but he isn't on the list. In case you don't know, he started [Link: www.punkvoter.com,...] a website that gave fans of punk rock false and illogical "information" about Bush. Punkvoter also made the popular "Not My President" t-shirts you may have seen some people wearing.

So, since Fat Mike isn't on the list, I'll vote for the other Fat Mike, Michael Moore.

However Markos, sorryeverybody.com, Dan Rather, Howard Dean, and George Soros come in close.

Look out! Here it comes.

Icky Twerp Web site. Great tribute by his son Paul.

Also, Bill Camfield in IMDb (Internet Movie Database). Read the bio.

Again, good candidates, but I have to stick with Dan Rather because unlike Kofi Annan, he won't be around to kick around next year.

.jax

Some of the nominees - Gore & Rather for example - evoke pity. Others - Sean Penn rules this category for me - elicit the desire to grab a baseball bat and ... You get the picture.

Since Penn also appears sensitive to criticism, I'd say he's probably going to get my vote. I so want to work this guy over. I know the scruffy fat boy will be hard to pass up, but that's my take.

It is so hard to not vote for the United Nations, Kofi Annan and Daily Kos, but I think Dan "impeccable sources" Rather is the runaway winner this year.

Fortunaly for Jimmy the Dhimmi the rules abstain him from competing. As we know, he likely would be close to a three-peat this year if it were not for Rachelcakes in 2003.

Dan Rather is not going to vanish! He's still going to be on 60 Minutes! And he doesn't even step down from his "news" show until what - March or April?

#203 theparson

I think that would be a good idea. Maybe in the spring?

Ted Rall

Is it just me, or is this apropos to LGF loading tonight?

"Listen, baby.You can hear the engine
ring.We've been up and down this highway;
haven't seen a goddam thing."
He said,"Call the doctor. I think I'm gonna crash."

Eagles 1976, album Hotel California

#216 Patrizio

Ramsey Clark is an idiotarian from waaayy back. He deserves a lifetime acheivement award just based on his past accomplishments.

Looks to me like the race will come down to Coffee,Blather or Mr.Creosote

Hey, whatever happened to John Kerry and Thereza Heinz Kerry? Are they still around? Do they still go skiing? They seem so Oh-so-five-minutes-ago. Do they still have millions of adoring supporters?

Someone . . .

Please bring me up-to-date.

#229 Promethea

Who?

C'mon, Charles, with 35 nominations, Andrew Sullivan should at least get a nod. This guy for years presented himself as a hard-core, anti-terrorist, anti-Idiotarian. Then, when things didn't go his way, Sullivan bailed. Bush's opposition to allowing Sullivan and his boyfriend to traipse down the aisle hand-in-hand was the tipping point. When things got rough in Iraq, it gave Sullivan the intellectual cover for his emotional hissy-fit. If you read his blog at all during the last six months of the election, it's hard to escape the conclusion that A.S. became nothing less than a growling, whining Moonbat. Watching him come up with one tortured rationalization after another as to why Kerry would actually be a better Commander-in-Chief in the war on terrorism was alternately disgusting and hilarious.

For switching sides in the battle against Idiotarianism, for sheerly personal, sexually-motivated reasons, Andrew Sullivan deserves a nod.

Late entry: Sri Lanka for refusing Israeli aid post-tsunami. Probably doesn't qualify based on the evil criterion.

#96 chewydog . . .

Hollywood is in a class by itself, and should have its own catagory. They are just reading script to be liked and invited to the right parties

I agree. I hate to waste a perfectly good Idiotarian Award on Hollywood types. By definition, they're mainly uneducated empty-headed loons who know how to make themselves pretty for the cameras.

The Idiotarian Award should go to someone very special, someone who can do REAL damage. Kerry is an example. Can you imagine this self-serving fool with his hand on the button?

(Apparently this button doesn't really exist, but it makes a good mental image.)

That said, George Soros should win the actual award. For squandering his money in pursuit of a personal/political vendetta... and losing!

Hey George: Looo-ssserrr!

Wow! So many choices. In honor of Charles sterling work in unmasking Dan Rather's fraudulent document, and the easy to understand graphics that even the LLL could understand, and influencing the outcome of the ’04 election, I urge all to vote for Dan

#99 David_Blue . . .

Collectively, the EU line is disgusting, but individuals don't stand out, that's the EU way.

Maybe the EU should be on the list. The more I learn about it, the more it seems like a UN with teeth.

Feh. (Yiddish for "barf.")

I vote for Ted Rall because unlike most of the other candidates, he has no talent in any other area except being an idiot. His cartoons suck. He is a complete leftist idealogue. He professes his ideaology with pride and conviction. And he has it nailed down tighter than a post office stamp machine. Sometimes he plays it so straight to the left, I wonder if he isn't faking it.

So many richly deserving weasels and skunks! In fact, I'm rather fond of both weasels and skunks and it's an insult to lump this rogues' gallery of meddlesome mindf*ckers with weasels and skunks who's never hurt anyone except to protect themselves. These maroons have tried to bring down a democratic president in a time of war. They should all rot in hell!

#5, perry, too funny of a post! Kerry can't win squat anymore and I hope the Swiftvets keep him from winning the Senate again.
I voted for John Edwards at first and I think he should be on it. His fluttering eyelashes at Cheney was too much.
But, I will concede already and vote for Dan the man..he was too stupid to pick something stupid enough to get him caught.
GO BLOGS!

#228 TotallySirius

Monsieur Creosote? Damn, that fits him to a T, except that Lumpy's not that cultured. Good one.

John F. Kerry should not be the Idiotarian of the year. John F. Kerry lost the election in 2004 and he respectfully conceded. He did the right thing by losing and conceding and I admire him for it. John F. Kerry is just an old senator from Massachusetts. He will never go anywhere else. Let Massachusetts have him.

congrats charles...you have just created the crew manifest for the First-Ever earth to Alpha Centauri mission.

Whoops, we forgot to add fuel food and fresh water and internal navigation devices aboard,

but we DID stock every cabin full of michael moore movies,
al franken radio archives, Linda rondstadt songs ted kennedy speeches, tim robbins head in a jar and some oldie but goody dan rather newscasts.

Feliz ano nuevo, lizards.

OK, who's posting with Schmerel's name?

I would nominate SpongeMike Sweatpants but if that idiot gets even ANOTHER award, I will barf. It will not be pretty

I nominate Dan (fake but accurate) Rather instead, who is apparently sorely in need of a dictionary.

It's all about hating Kofi for me this year. Moore and Rather might be assholes, but on a twisted level, they like America. Kofi hates us and he hates those pesky Jews.

Carolina Girl, LOL. Isn't it SpongeMike Fatpants?

#31 Charles 12/31/2004 05:26PM PST
Yep, one of the few rules is that you can only win once, so Carter is ineligible.

I know he is ineligible, but you really should consider something like a "Lifetime Achievement Award" he certainly deserves it.

:))

Nor can I vote for Dan Rather. He is not really an idiot. He is actually fairly smart. He tried to keep his ideology a secret because he knew it would not sell on main street. He just got caught red-handed trying to slip it under the door. I don't expect to hear much from Dan Rather in the future even if he will continue to be on 60 Minutia.

Sean Penn makes a late charge with his support of Michael Moore and the infamous "7 minutes" moonbat screed:

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

AP: What did you think of Michael Moore’s “Fahrenheit 9/11”?

Penn: All of that footage — how long was it, seven plus minutes (when Bush sat in the classroom)? ... That’s who George Bush is. I think it speaks very specifically to something that not everybody has. Forget politics, forget Republican, right, left. But it speaks to his unfitness to lead anything.

Oh, wait a minute. We are talking about The Fiskie? That is different from Idiotarian of the Year, is itn't it?

I got to go read the FAQ. I'll be right back.

#250

You're right, Lawrence.

Dan Blather. Hands down.

Okay. I got it.

It is the LGF Robert Fisk Award for Idiotarian of the Year (also referred to as the "Fiskie").

No, msheather. I think you misunderstood me. I am campaigning for Ted Rall.

It's Dan Blather, hands down. Is there any doubt?

I vote for Michael Mooron as the blimp to advertise the fact that Blather won!

Nominations:

John Kerry -- Lifetime Achievement in Idiotarianism -- he's proven year after year that he's a clueless, worthless POS

Duh-rayza -- she certainly deserves to be on the list despite her idiocy being exceeding by some

And I nominate El Presidente Vicente Fox -- as leader of one of the world's wealthiest countries, with more million/billionaires per capita than the US, he has accomplished nothing for his impoverished majority except help them leech off of American taxpayers and remit their (often ill-gotten, more often untaxed) cash into the coffers of Mexican banks. The world's worst whiner, massive idiotarian, champion of the privileged classes, and abuser of America's taxpaying citizens.

My vote? Mike al-Moor is the reincarnation of Goebbels -- pure propagandist for hatred and evil. "Idiotarian" doesn't begin to describe him, so I suggest another award and put him up against Osama bin Laden and his ilk. More appropriate company in which to rank-order him.

I'd have to rank Co-fee ahead of even Rather for Idiotarian. Cynthia McKinney has to be in the top 10, along with Vicente Fox, Duh-rayzah, Rather.

ms heather, this is scary. I just read your post - GMTA.

HAPPY NEW YEAR Y'ALL!

charles I'll do you a deal...

I'll vote for Dan Rather if you nominate JACK STRAW! C'mon... he's the very definition of Fisk! And he's British! And he deserves it!

I just wanna see him on the list... is it too much to ask?

I agree with so many posters that their definitely should be some sort of Fisk Lifetime Achievement Award, or some type of Emeritus status. Jimmy Carter would definitely be a wonderful "Fisk Award Emeritus" recipient.

[From Flyboy, Carolina's better half - at least until registration opens again]

Well hello there sports fans! At least I am under the impression that this is a sports blog because, after all, it's green footballs, right? Hee! I asked where the name came from and she said it was classified.

Carolina girl is in the other room licking the wounds that she received during last night's Cal Bazerkley loss in the highly coveted "Holiday Bowl"... we had a few beers in anticipation of tonioght's celebration of another completion of one revolution of planet earth around the celestial body known as "the sun"... it has seemed to help.

Since the election time politics have slowed considerably and I don't have anything prudent to say, I will finish by wishing all of you all a great, healthy and prosperous new year and that I think you all kick (can I say butt?) Butt.

PS... there is word that blogs are being nomonated for person of the year. Way to go Charles...

I am not going to care if Ted Rall loses.

Arguing about which one of these assholes is the biggest asshole is kind of self defeating.

Fuck 'em all. It's New Year's Eve!

Let's Party!

hands down Kofi... may he have an up close and personal Congo blue helmet moment, with him on the recieving end.

I'd nominate the BBC and Jack Straw the foreign secretary for his amazing displays of dhimmitude...

i nominate george monbiot.

how about wonkette?

Dan Rather

#260

I agree.

And I can't type.

Too many bubbles here...

weresorry.com

These people are the torch bearers on the march from Stupidville to the City of Enlightenment.

QM

no wait, wonkette would be my second choice.

instead, the remedial SorryEverybody.com has to be the choice. such juvenality (sp?) should be rewarded as is fit... to wear the dunce cap and sit in the corner.

perhaps SorryEverybody.com is just an extrojection of fear... as if the terrorists will consult a printout of the sight before randomly killing, and not harm these precious souls.

they are declaring their lack of acceptance of the first rule of democracy... that somebody wins, somebody loses, and the losers have to accept that and move forward.

grow up, your mothers are ashamed.

I vote for me..Living in a place where it is 105 degrees or 80 mph winds or 6 inches of rain in a day or all of the above & 10 million too many people & 34 of them are village idiots themselves. I want a trophy!
wahhh...

75% not 34

#257 Wicksy

Are you an EastEnder? :) I agree re the strawman..he deserves a nomination, as Nannette also says.

All:

Also, the idea of a Fisk Lifetime Dis-Achievement Award appeals.

Posthumous, for Arafish, in a class all by himself? Baghdad Bob? Wh was is he? And why should we care? He was a lot funnier than some of the alleged comedians on the list, though.

Too many choices, so little time! And why isn't there a special place for the billaries?

I would like to nominate Nick Berg's father - an idiotarian's idiotarian:

"I am sure that he only saw the good in his captors until the last second of his life," Berg said. "They did not know what they were doing. They killed their best friend."

Didn't Mr. Moore eat Dan Rather? I expect Dan will pop out soon just like the scene in Alien.

It's was a close call between Kofi Annan & Jack Shraw for me, but I now whereby Vote The Guardian.

I don't think it's really that hard of a choice. Dan Rather clearly deserves top honors. A Fiskie is appropriate, given that our society is too wimpy to give him the title he truly deserves...Traitor.

#260 Lawrence Schmerel

Can we just fuck Ted Rall? Just for a couple of minutes? With a chainsaw?

/last nasty thought of 2004...probably

Bob Shrum!

I agree that Dan Rather should, and probably will win, but for my money Olbermann should be in the top three, the jackass. If he would just stick to baseball, I have no problem with him. In fact, he is one of the most knowledgeable and witty baseball commentators in the business. But on Countdown, he has me gnashing my teeth and throwing shoes at the TV set. I can't afford to keep buying new televisions, so I don't watch Countdown anymore.

Happy New Year, east coast lizardoids!

how about a lifetime award for Susan Sontag?

The mayor of San Francisco needs to be on the list...he violated the will of the people of California and made up his own rules.

I vote for: GAVIN NEWSOM

My Top 5:

Dan Rather
Michael Moore
Ted Rall
Kofi Annan
George Soros

World class dicks whose massive egos have blinded them to reality.

227 Ward Cleaver

True, but this is his personal "best", in the wicked moronic Communist way

Fatf**k Moore deserves the "flatulence of the year award," but other than that the only thing he deserves is be ignored.

Asshat "reporting for duty" Kerry is too much of a loser to be voted for anything.

Rather is just desperate for the Glory Years and will do anything to get the feeling back. He isn't anti-US or pro-terrorism, he isn't politically or morally anything. He's after any press that will get him in the spotlight again. But he's still despicable, so he goes for second.

Definitely, Coughing Anus: idiot, crook, terrorist- sympathizer/supporter, jew hating, US hating, lying, in short...turd droppings.

Definitely the Anus

Any chance we could all chip in an buy a real trophy or medal to send to the winner? I can just see Rather opening the box and thinking the award was something positive. Maybe he would even hang it on the wall before someone pointed out what it was.

Also, I do have a nomination:
The parents of all the people of SoSorry, unless they agree to take them back and do it over...the birth part, that is.

Nick Berg's father said that? Thanks Dad! They cut my f#$#n head off. Jeezzz...

I agree that Nick Berg's dad has made a very late charge toward the lead. When Islamist terrorist scumbag murderers kidnap and brutally behead your own offspring... and you find a way to blame Bush... that is a very strong "I am an Idiotarian" statement.

hmmm Gunga Dan or Kofi?

Ooooh...

Gotta Go with Gunga Dan Rather on this one. The man is such a schmuck.