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 RetweetKerry Ran Weapons to the Khmer Rouge?

Sun, Jan 30, 2005 at 3:56:34 pm PST

Well, here you go, if you can stomach another heaping helping of John F. Kerry’s by-now tiresomely predictable bellyaching and posturing; the transcript of his interview with Tim Russert on Meet the Press: MSNBC - Transcript for Jan. 30.

The magic hat makes an encore appearance:

SEN. KERRY: I still have the hat that he gave me, and I hope the guy would come out of the woodwork and say, “I’m the guy who went up with John Kerry. We delivered weapons to the Khmer Rouge on the coastline of Cambodia.” We went out of Ha Tien, which is right in Vietnam. We went north up into the border. And I have some photographs of that, and that’s what we did. So, you know, the two were jumbled together, but we were on the Cambodian border on Christmas Eve, absolutely.

Kerry delivered weapons to the Khmer Rouge? As far as I know, this is a new detail—and one that makes no sense at all. Why would the CIA be running weapons to the communist Khmer Rouge guerillas, when we were fighting communists in North Vietnam? And as several LGF readers have pointed out, the Khmer Rouge didn’t even become a real factor in Cambodia until the 1970s.

Did Kerry get flustered at Russert’s question and start embroidering again?

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1 badanov  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 1:58:35pm

Jack and the Magic Hat. Episode One

2 dennisw  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 1:58:44pm

first ... you rule Charles! and so do the brave Iraqis of today!

3 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:00:33pm

Does anyone really give a rodents' dairy air?

4 Marc Poitras  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:00:34pm

Cambodia? Form 180? How convenient for Kerry that the MSM waited until after the election to ask these questions.

5 Bubbaman  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:00:53pm

As I said before, this interview left me speechless. Thank G-d this moron didn't get elected. Here was some of my favorite parts:

MR. RUSSERT: Specifically, do you agree with Senator Kennedy that 12,000 American troops should leave at once?

SEN. KERRY: No.

MR. RUSSERT: Do you believe there should be a specific timetable of withdrawal of American troops?

SEN. KERRY: No.

MR. RUSSERT: What would you do?

SEN. KERRY: I understand exactly what Senator Kennedy is saying, and I agree with Senator Kennedy's perceptions of the problem and of how you deal with it. I would--in fact, last summer, if you'll recall, I said specifically that if we did the things that I laid out--the training, the international community, the services and reconstruction, and the elections and protection--we could draw down troops and begin to withdraw them.

6 AtlasShrugged  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:01:00pm

OH MY G-D!

Fox is running that fucking footage of the DANCING IRAQIS with a newly written theme song!

7 dennisw  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:01:10pm

This John effin Kerry shithook also claimed he would sign the 180 form to release his military records. You believe this and you must believe Muhammad's hallucinations too.

8 AtlasShrugged  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:01:40pm

RUN THAT FUCKING FOOTAGE!

WOOO HOOO

9 heliotrope  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:02:34pm

Did Kerry get flustered at Russert’s question and start embroidering again?


He could not have started pulling out stitches now, could he? As for "embroidering"...you demean the art!

10 W-lover  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:02:38pm

I'm sick of this Jo.Ke.

11 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:03:21pm

Why would the CIA be running weapons to the Communist Khmer Rouge, anyway?

13 Dr. Sanity  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:04:30pm

If I were one of the Swift Vet guys, I would begin to realize that Kerry is like a vampire--it's going to take a stake to the heart to take him out once and for all. I say keep pushing on those same issues as during the campaign until you finally have the truth out of him. Then we all can forget about him. Right now, Kerry won't go away because his narcissism won't let him, and he imagines that in 4 years all will be forgotten again. Get him.

14 Protagonist  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:04:34pm

He's better stick to that story, or else he'd be guilty of blatant perjury before a Congressional Committee, an instantly impeachable offense.

15 AtlasShrugged  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:04:36pm

For the very first time, I actually watched George StephanopolASS this morning interviewing uber woman Condi Rice...did anyone see that excrement?
I hurled at my screen

He ran the murderer Kennedys speech asking her to refute his "points"
He went on to barrage her with the "highest number of dissenting votes to her confirmation -13 in Amercian History"

Ms Rice replied lets talk about the 85

honestly dont know how she contained herself
How do the American people watch this obvious subterfuge?

16 Fast Eddie  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:04:55pm

Oh, this is just too rich! I'm laughing so hard my sides hurt and I can't breathe.

Every time I think Effin' has said the stupidest think possible, he exceeds my expectations with something even worse. Think of it - this bozo was the best person in the whole damn country that the Dims could come up with for their candidate for President.

Along with Treadwater Ted's speech two days ago, the Democratic Party has officially hit bottom, and is now digging up splinters.

17 dennisw  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:05:19pm

I saw that line of Iraqi men dancing on Fox. It all good! Let freedom ring and down with the smug and cynical. Lets aspire to the good rather than wallow in MSM nonsense.

18 Luigi  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:05:21pm

Now why wasn't wearing his magic hat here?

19 AtlasShrugged  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:05:53pm

THE DANCING IRAQI POLICEMEN!

20 heliotrope  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:05:56pm

dennisw:


I believe Monsewer Kerry left it that his 180's would be released...but he has a list of stuff (unnamed) that needs to be released by others first.

This may not stand up to his words, but what does?

21 Roark wannabe  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:06:29pm

Kerry still can say No without saying Yes, and Yes without a No to every question. Man he does'nt learn at all.

22 RonAA  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:08:21pm

So does this make Kerry complicit in the Khmer Rouge mass murder?

23 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:08:25pm

This has been baffling me all day



#61 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades 1/30/2005 10:22AM PST
Anyone here hear John Francois defend his lies about being in Cambodia (seared, seared in his memory) sya that he indeed went into Cambodia with a hat giving CIA agent to deliver weapons to the Khmer Rouge?

24 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:08:28pm
25 reaganite  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:08:31pm

While I was in DC for the inauguration, I was walking down the hill from my hotel to get some dinner while I was talking to a friend. We were talking about how bad it would be if Lurch had won and this was his time. I made the comment "If this was Lurch's inauguration, I certainly wouldn't be here". A woman walking in front of us just started giggling. It was so nice being in DC surrounded by Republicans.

Lurch is a piece of shit and a habitual liar. I doubt even the Massholes will re-elect him and the end of this term.

26 LesLein  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:08:49pm

#6 -- The song Fox played is the new Iraqi national anthem.

27 pookleblinky  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:08:58pm

OT

anyone else see the Pope getting attacked by a peace dove?

28 dennisw  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:09:44pm

heliotrope
___

I realize that Effin issued some qualifications such as that others (what others?) would have to release their 180s concurrent with him. Donk obfuscation.

29 mommydoc  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:10:07pm

I'm convinced Kerry has a congenital absence of sensory nerve endings. Otherwise, he'd be in so much pain from stepping on his own d**k repeatedly that he'd have stopped by now.

Or he's incapable of learning.

30 Roark wannabe  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:10:34pm

anyone else see where Kerry said "he originally did'nt go into Cambodia, but later did"

kind of like the old '87 billion' line eh?

31 Ex_dem  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:10:50pm

Speaking as someone who has spent time in Cambodia and studied that country's history, the idea that the CIA would be running guns to the Maoist Khmer Rouge makes no sense whatsoever. The US was backing the government of Sihanouk. And 1968? Puh-leez. Practically no one outside of Cambodia had even heard of the Khmer Rouge in 1968. The US first bombed on the Cambodian side of the border in 1969, and foreign troops weren't crossing into Cambodia until 1970, John L. Kerry.

32 It's Miss Donna V. to you  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:10:55pm

AtlasShrugged: Yeah and compare Georgie's interview with Condi with the tongue bath he gave Evan Bayh afterwards.

As for SKerry, he's like a bad comedian who doesn't realize it's time to leave the stage. Note to Kerry: even my family members who voted for you don't want to hear about your effing magic hat or time in Vietnam anymore! You're yesterday's news, bud!

33 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:11:26pm

Russert also asked John Francois about a poll showing even the residents of California on the Atlantic (ie, Massachusetts) by a 60 to 39 margin don't think he should run for POTUS again.


John Francois answered that he doesn't believe in polls.

34 Protagonist  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:12:37pm

#15 AtlasShrugged

I'll never forget watching The War Room in an undergrad polisci class, and watching that weasel Stephanopolous run down the hall after Pro-Clinton pundits about to go on a talkshow, screaming last minute instructions about what talking points to raise. A decade later, he'd be hosting shows like that. The MSM had zero credibility with me after that point. (Yes I know about Roger Ailes at Fox News, but at least he recognizes the phenomenon of media bias and tries in good-faith to offset it on his network.)

35 ambisinistral  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:12:52pm

"We delivered weapons to the Khmer Rouge on the coastline of Cambodia."

Huh? I guess what they say about Americans not knowing geography is true. A quick look at a map of Cambodia shows that traveling upriver gets you to the interior of Cambodia, not the coastline.

What an idiot.

36 mommydoc  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:12:59pm
John Francois answered that he doesn't believe in polls.

Another lie, since polls are about the only things he actually believes in. Okay, maybe that and an imaginary CIA agent who gave him a magic hat...

37 addison  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:13:22pm

What (#25) reaganite said.

I wish Russert were better informed; he could have easily torn Kerry down today. Russert even seems to have forgotten that Kerry promised him before the election that he would sign his Form 180...something he has not done to this day.

38 Ex_dem  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:14:15pm

John L. Kerry's pathetic lies about Cambodia are seared -- seared -- into my brain.

39 Boss429  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:14:27pm

Half wit moron from Mass. that even Kos admits was the wrong candidate, giving advice to those who felt he was the lesser choice to run this country for the next 4 years! WTF is wrong with the people in Mass.? Don't the citizens of Ma relize he's embarrasing them? What is with them, after having an internationally reknown drink named for Ted, the Chappaquitik (sp) scotch and murkey water, I'd think they want to elect representatives that make them look like they can produce candidtates worth respect instead of haning onto the legacy of the Kennedy's, a bunch of drunks, and their boy Swift Boat Johnny.

40 Sarah D.  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:14:34pm

#25 reaganite

Hey! I was wondering where/how you were. Was fixing to send out the email beacon.

How was the inauguration?

41 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:14:50pm
42 Marc Poitras  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:16:10pm

Christmas in Cambodia and form 180--seems like those were crucial issues, say, about five months ago. Hey Russert, congratulations on that timely, cutting edge reporting.

43 Orbit Rain  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:16:42pm

yes, this was the face of the Democratic party.


AHHH HAA HAA HAAA HAAA!

44 mommydoc  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:16:50pm

ambisinistral (#35): Actually, most of us have some knowledge of geography, and everyone knows that going upriver anyplace takes one away from the sea, thus, by definition, away from the coast.

It's just that Kerry thinks we're all idiots. And the LLL is only too willing to oblige him in his fantasies.

45 Beagle  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:17:07pm

Where he met a French family, lost a man to spear attack, and finally manged to complete his mission against Col. Kurtz. John Kerry has issues which require immediate therapy. Someone needs to tell him he lost the election.

46 reaganite  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:17:45pm

#40 Sarah D.

Hey! I was wondering where/how you were. Was fixing to send out the email beacon.

Been travelling as usual. I got back from Cleveland on Thursday.

How was the inauguration?

No clue, I saw what I could on TV but I was working night shift, again...

47 mommydoc  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:18:33pm

Beagle: LOL!

48 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:18:53pm
49 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:20:43pm

Hey Kerry


Next time ya talk to yer goon in Paris

ask him how things are going in the Ivory Coast

BWAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!

(did I get it right that time, RWNJ?)

50 Goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:20:50pm

Beagle


ROFL! I LOVE literary allusions!

Kerry in congenitally dishonest; that's the bottom line. I really hope someone deconstructs that interview sentence by sentence. But then again, why bother? It's not as if he matters.

51 Aisha  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:21:36pm

I still have my magic burkha.

It covers my shame.

Kerry needs to know shame. Shame is your friend.

Kerry needs to know Allah Ta'ala. He is compassionate and merciful.

Kerry needs to know Islam. It's a pretty cool religion. He would have won the "election" had he embraced Islaam. The perfect way of life.

Allahu Akhbar.

52 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:22:03pm
53 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:22:34pm

Nooo, I missed this. Damn, damn, damn. Too bad the Bullshit Meter wasn't hooked up to him..

54 reaganite  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:23:10pm

#52 American Infidel

I want that form signed and I want all of his records to be released...

Never going to happen...

55 Goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:23:42pm

American Infidel

Don't you wish Tim Russert had whipped out the form and a pen then and there?

56 Yossarian  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:24:00pm

Hi Reaganite! How have you been? I'm glad you're back.

57 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:24:08pm
58 Ex_dem  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:24:14pm

35 ambisinistral

Huh? I guess what they say about Americans not knowing geography is true. A quick look at a map of Cambodia shows that traveling upriver gets you to the interior of Cambodia, not the coastline.

Another of his famous quotes was something to the effect of "traveling on the Mekong on the border between Cambodia and Vietnam." Except that the Mekong flows from Cambodia into Vietnam.

Or maybe, like you know how the CBS memos could actually be true, maybe Kerry is telling the truth. Maybe in 1968 President-elect Nixon ordered him across the border into Cambodia at the coast near Phnom Pehn, hundreds of miles from any fighting in Vietnam, to give weapons to an obscure Maoist group of no more than a few hundred peasant fighters opposing a US ally. President-elect Nixon then made an unprecedented radio address to deny that he, the president-elect, had sent troops into Cambodia. The few existing Khmer Rouge, of course, journeyed down from the northern part of the country all the way to the capital to receive these weapons from John L. Kerry. And he got a magic hat out of the deal, so that's enough proof for me.

59 It's Miss Donna V. to you  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:24:17pm
wish Russert were better informed; he could have easily torn Kerry down today.

Addison, I don't believe for a second that Russert is uninformed. His M.O. is to save the tough questions for Republicans and let asinine comments by Dems slide.

If a Republican said something like "We delivered weapons to the Khmer Rouge on the coastline of Cambodia," Russert would be all over it immediately.

In one sense, I think the media's obvious bias has actually benefited the GOP - it keeps them on their toes. Part of the sorry state of the present Democratic party is due to the fact that they seldom get called on their idiocies and it's made them intellectually sloppy.

60 traveler  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:24:41pm

This boob has to be the most inarticulate poseur I've ever run across. Can the guy EVER FINISH A FUCKING SENTENCE?

He's a nervous nellie, addicted to run-on sentences because he has no solid inner core. He's a see-through puppet of whatever the wind blew in that day.

Please, please -- it's time to relegate him to the "Where are they now?" bin...

61 ambisinistral  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:25:21pm

#44 mommydoc,

I know. What's really amazing is that Kerry actually was on that river, ta think he might have recalled it ran inland. At any rate, Apocolypse Now, the movie he used to inspire his exploits in Cambodia, also took place in the interior.

Seesh... how lazy and incomptetent of a liar does that paint him?

62 reaganite  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:25:27pm

#56 Yossarian

How have you been?

Not bad, just busy. You?

63 'Nam Grunt  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:25:40pm

hanoi john the traitor is to America what judas was to Jesus, or brutus to caeser...a lying backstabber!

64 thor  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:26:51pm

Is John Kerry Mentally Ill?

All kidding aside, if failed presidential candidate John Kerry really believes what he says about his military service, it would indicate that he is delusional.

He might really be a highly functional Narcissistic Personality Disorder patient with delusions of grandeur.

Diagnostic Criteria

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

requires excessive admiration

has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

65 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:27:45pm
66 Stop Hillary  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:28:12pm

Hey Kerry:

BE A HERO - SIGN ONE EIGHT ZERO!

He is so full of BS that he can't keep a cork in it.
I know that he was a damned traitor in Vietnam and is a damn traitor today.

67 Boss429  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:28:43pm

I enlisted in the Marines when I graduated high school in 1981, spent all but 16 weeks of 4 years in a garage working on engines. I didn't go to Genada, but after the stories were passed from one person to another I have some whoppers to tell my grandkids about my being there.

I'm sure JFK doe too!

68 reaganite  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:29:09pm

#65 American Infidel

Perhaps not, but I am not forgetting about it either...

Neither will I but OTOH, even the Massholes are sick of him. He will shortly be impotent and irrelevant.

69 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:29:24pm

#58 Ex-dem,


Yeah it is pretty funny how ignorant the majority of the Khmer Rouge's US fanbase is SO ignorant of the history and geography of the movement. The NVA/VC and KRs did not exactly have a love affair with each other either.

Like you said John was on a CIA mission to subvert US policy in the form of undermining our loyal ally in Sihanouk...


a-yup...and hey luckily the CIA decided that they needed to take the loudest and noisiest brown water craft in our inventory to make this "uber-secret tactical logistical insertion"...


er uh Okay John...


seared, seared into my memory...

actually, sadly it is one of my first girlfriends was a Khmer refugee.

regards,
sven

70 Goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:29:42pm

'Nam Grunt

Oh, definitely Judas. Judas starting out on Jesus' side but betrayed Him for his own interests. Brutus was manipulated by Cassius and genuinely thought he was doing what was best for Rome by assassinating Caesar (at least in the Bill Shakespeare version).

But at least Judas felt enough shame to go hang himself.

71 Stuck-in-CA  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:29:43pm

John who?

72 Yossarian  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:30:07pm

#62 reaganite

Same...Been on LGF all day, watching Fox News. What a great day for democracy! But it's always fun to poke fun at Kerry and his pal Ted.

Did Kerry get flustered at Russert’s question and start embroidering again?

That brings to mind an image of Kerry knitting the names of his enemies, vowing revenge, like Madame Defarge in A Tale of Two Cities.

73 Ex_dem  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:30:54pm

64 thor

Is John Kerry Mentally Ill?

No, I think he's just a pompous, lying windbag.

74 Peacekeeper  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:32:32pm

Kerry, didn't he serve with Commander McBragg? Or was it Captain Crunch?

75 braindirt  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:33:09pm

Kerry does a 180 on Form 180:

Yes, I will.

Then he goes on to demand, in another 180, that

... those who have who have challenged me, let's see their records.

In effect, "You show me yours... and I'll show you mine". Like a curious little kid, wanting to see pee-pee. How puerile.

76 Jheka  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:33:12pm

At least Dukakis had the grace and good sense to disappear, as did Mondale (for the most part) and other losers. You didn't see Dole attacking Clinton in 1996. In any event, this new lie will haunt Kerry if he decides to try to run again. "What kinds of weapons were you delivering to the Khmer Rouge?" "On who's orders?" "Where on the 'coastline' were you?" "Did you help the Khmer Rouge in any other ways or was that it?"

Hell, this might hurt him in 2008 if he runs for re-election and the Republicans can find a legitimate opponent.

77 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:33:39pm

Kerry even wrote a review of Apocalypse Now when it came out, it was published in the Boston paper. He was highly critical of the film, but said he could relate to Martin Sheen's character, as he also went on a secret mission to Cambodia, in the his review.

Have to look it up...

78 noelUSAF  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:34:29pm

I now the guy who handed him the Magic Hat!

I played with him under my christmas tree in the winter of 69,

GI Joe was his name "COVERT ACTION WAS HIS GAME"!

HONEST!

79 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:34:39pm

IRON FIST


I GOT HIM!

email me!

80 NY Nana  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:35:01pm

OK, Anyone who can keep a straight face after reading this, please let me know how you did it! Soros Says Kerry's Failings Undermined Campaign Against Bush

And this, re the topic: John Kerry the Grinch Who Doesn’t Like Iraq Election Results

OK, I am a Jew, and I have cried so many times today, watching the coverage, even on NBC, of the Iraqis voting. To see them dressed, in many cases, in their best clothes, walking as a family, with little kids on their dad's shoulders...to see a man in his 70's, a Kurd, who can barely walk, supported by what I assume his 2 sons, walking a mile to vite, as no cars, etc., were allowed to be on the roads, just to vote, and walk a mile back? These sights, plus the dancing and singing, and pure joy on the faces of people who have never known freedom like this, and to see the women voting...it is a wonderul day.

I get chills watching this. I do not know if our troops can come home any sooner, but what was accomplished today, mainly because we have a President who cared, and the best damned military in the world, who brought about the first free elction for Iraq, is IMHO, a miracle. What the future brings, no one can say, but somehow I do not think that the Iraqi people will allow the tantrum-throwing sadamn disciples, who stayed away from the polls, ever to rule again.

As for hanoi John and Kennedy? There is a special place in hell reserved for them, Barbara Boxer and hil..I can't wait for her(?) to speak out of both sides of her mouth on this issue. Since my birth certificate has Massachusetts on it, I guess I have to leave it intact, darn it.

Russert was stupid to even give Hanoi john an outlet.

81 pat  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:35:29pm

Kerry was running weapons to POL POT? Try this man for treason now. And Duh, Tim, No Follow-up? Couln't think of a single question off-script? Turn in your license. Your too stupid to be on TV. Maybe all that morning time with Perky Katie Couric atrophied your brains.

82 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:35:43pm

From the Boston Republic

Lifted from FreeRepublic


From Boston Republic, dated 11/14/79

JOHN KERRY:
"On more than one occasion, I like Martin Sheen in "Apocalypse Now," took my patrol boat into Cambodia. In fact I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."
83 reaganite  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:36:05pm

#72 Yossarian
I watched some of it this morning before I drove home. I was loving it. I made the comment "the MSM's and jihadi's heads are exploding all over the world today".

84 Goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:36:07pm

Yossarian


Oh, goody, another allusion! And yours is really good because Madame Defarge was utterly consumed with hatred and the desire for revenge beyond all reason. One of my favorite scenes is when Miss Pross prevents Mme. Defarge from killing Lucie, announcing, "I am an Englishwoman>"

See? Even Dickens knew the fanatic French were bad news.

85 beavereater  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:36:18pm

#52

MR. RUSSERT: Would you sign Form 180?

MR HEINZ KERRY: Oh Tom, er Tim! My swimming coach, Chappaquiddick Ted, said I could do the 180 in great form froggy style.

86 comment #17.1  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:36:20pm

This is a gem:

Russert: Specifically, Senator, do you still agree with yourself?
87 ted  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:36:40pm

Alas, the tragedy of mental illness remains untreated in Kerry...

88 Bambino  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:36:49pm

Nothing ever changes with this guy, he's a loser, end of story. By now his comments don't ever surprise me, it's just lame that the MSM still gives this guy a mic as if he's still a candidate. Next thing ya now we'll be hearing crazy ass coments from that old hag of a wife of his...

89 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:37:07pm

"We delivered weapons to the Khmer Rouge on the coastline of Cambodia.”

This is a major, MAJOR Goebbels/Minstry of Truth moment for a leading LLL.
One small correction, though. At the time, the Cambodian government, headed by Beijing's running dog, Prince Sihanouk, was pro-Communist. He had allowed the North Vietnamese Stalinists to occupy the eastern portion of the country and turn it into a base for their aggression against South Vietnam.
An anti-Communist government took over in 1970 and sought to expel the Vietnamese. The Chinese-oriented Khmer Rouge became a fighting organization at that time and allied itself with the North Vietnamese.
Afterward, the US supported the Cambodian government against the Khmer Rouge and its Communist Vietnamese allies.
This is a matter of history, easily demonstrable from thousands of comteporary sources.

The myth that the US "supported the Khmer Rouge" has been around for a number of years, but this usually refers to the period after the Vietnam War when the Vietnamese Stalinists had a falling out with their erstwhile allies.
At that point, it became acceptable for former (and provable) K-M supporters like Chomsky and McGovern to begin criticizing them.
This myth is a major talking point for historically illiterate campus LLLs (that is, all of them).

Kerry's outlandish claim that we sent weapons to the Khmer Rouge when they were strongly and obviously allied with the enemy is a significant escalation of this revisionist myth.
He might as well claim that lend-lease sent weapons to the Nazis during World War 2, or that the Doolittle raid was actually a re-supply mission for Japanese forces in China.

This is open, provable, obvious lying. President Bush and every veteran in the country should call him out on it.
I believe the Senate should censure Kerry for this.

90 theparson  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:37:27pm

I love this part:


MR. RUSSERT: Would you sign Form 180?

SEN. KERRY: But everything, Tim...

MR. RUSSERT: Would you sign Form 180?

SEN. KERRY: Yes, I will. But everything that we put in it, Tim--everything we put in--I mean,

91 dave's not here  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:37:47pm

Show the pictures! Of course, how the hell is he going to prove the date on those shots?

92 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:38:06pm

#82 BG,

Yeah never mind there are internal inconsistencies and that he is sort of ignoring that LBJ was prez, and the neat magic trick that exonerates the Mules from the blame game for 'nam...


I love (imitation) J eff'n K he is the best historical fiction lecturer on the MSM.

93 Bobwolf  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:38:10pm

#75 Braindirt

... those who have who have challenged me, let's see their records.

Wouldn't it have been appropriate for Russert to point out that they weren't running for president?

OT The Founding Fathers would have been proud of George Bush today.

94 Dave the.....  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:39:28pm
I think the media's obvious bias has actually benefited the GOP - it keeps them on their toes. Part of the sorry state of the present Democratic party is due to the fact that they seldom get called on their idiocies and it's made them intellectually sloppy.

I agree. Some examples:

Dems in 2000 didn't know how strongly Red America felt about 2nd amendment rights because MSM is against that. Gore may have carried Tennessee if the Dems had a clue about how the common people think. MSM mirrors east/west coast elitism.

MSM totally ignored the SBVT when they first came out. So the vets said fine, we'll do this ourselves. They did the book, raised some money, ran ads. Instead of the story running its course in May and June, it was in the forefront in Sept and Oct.

95 Gruen  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:39:35pm

What a pathetic, orange-faced, miserable traitor he really is.

A disgrace.

96 theparson  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:41:57pm

I wonder if Russert will have a breaking interview with Algore next. He's a loser too.

97 Ex_dem  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:42:07pm

69 sven

Yeah it is pretty funny how ignorant the majority of the Khmer Rouge's US fanbase is SO ignorant of the history and geography of the movement. The NVA/VC and KRs did not exactly have a love affair with each other either.

Like you said John was on a CIA mission to subvert US policy in the form of undermining our loyal ally in Sihanouk...

Sent there by the president-elect, no less!

Yes, Cambodia's history is enough to make one weep. I spent a few weeks there last year, and after a couple of days in-country, it dawned on me: Where are the old people? I'm in my early thirties, and looking around through the crowded public market, I didn't see more than two or three people older than myself. In Thailand and Vietnam, by contrast, you'll see plenty of older women at the markets. Let's see, when was I born? (counting back) Oh. Most of the city-dwellers older than me were murdered. That realization left me with a sick feeling in my stomach. But of course what is one of the worst crimes in the history of mankind if not a chance to aggrandize one's personal story? John L. Kerry . . .

98 Dave the.....  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:42:09pm
"On more than one occasion, I like Martin Sheen in "Apocalypse Now," took my patrol boat into Cambodia. In fact I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."


And we have a winner in the over the top fiction writing.

99 Billy Hank  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:44:29pm

#63 Nam Grunt

This was a significant slip of the tongue by JF'nK. We know that he met with VC and NVA cadre in Paris in 1971. His now admitted gun running to the Communist Khmer Rouge in 1968 is now the earliest self-admission of treason. There must have been some earlier meeting before he went overseas that set all this up. I'm beginning to think his story is true, except that secret agent he got the hat from was Soviet.

Hey, Lurch. Be happy to swap signed Form 180s. What dead drop should we use to exchange?

100 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:44:49pm

#97 ex-dem,

Hey JungleJohn swore that all that would happen if the US pulled the hit and split in Vietnam was that AT MOST 1500 or so people would be killed...


I plan on visiting him in hell when he pays for that statement.

101 braindirt  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:45:39pm

#93 Bobwolf

The Founding Fathers would have been proud of George Bush today.

Actually, you're completely "on topic". Kerry could have been President. Today was a great day for democracy--- and a very bad day for Democrats, wasn't it.

102 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:46:13pm

Sven,


His movie review came out in 1979. So how can he now say his memory is fuzzy as to the exact date...

remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being

So let's refresh your memory, Senator, here is a movie review you wrote back in 1979...

Sven..

I now believe the movie, Apocalypse Now, may have been the catalyst for this particular Kerry fake Vietnam story... I don't believe Kerry ever mentioned the Cambodia story at all, until after the movie came out in 79.

103 [Engineer]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:46:16pm

So Kerry ran weapons to the Khmer Rouge in 1968? That is funny because they didn't start using that name until the 1970's

The Communist Party of Cambodia was founded in the early 1950s, although in its early years it remained subordinate to the Communist Party of Vietnam. In the 1970s the Party adopted the name "Party of Democratic Kampuchea," ("Kampuchea" being an alternative spelling of Cambodia), but became commonly known by the French name Khmer Rouge. From the mid 1960s the Cambodian Communists conducted a low-level insurgency along the Vietnamese border, mainly in support of the Vietnamese Communists in their war with the United States.

Wikipedia

104 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:47:50pm

I can't emphasize strongly enough that Kerry is obviously lying. There was really no such thing as the Khmer Rouge in 1968. The pro-communist Prince Sihanouk was still in control of Cambodia in 1968. The forces that later made up the Khmer Rouge were his supporters at the time.

In later years, after the Khmer Rouge had gained and then lost control of the country, Sihanouk in fact became titular head of the Khmer Rouge.
Sihanouk eventually returned to Cambodia as King and he still sits on the throne today, but has no real influence over policy.

105 ferris  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:48:30pm

Um...Kerry is addmitinng he ran guns to the enemy of our allies during a time of war? That strikes me as 'giving aid and comfort', no?

Of course none of this really bothers me because it's pure BS. He's just making stuff up. Or he doesn't know the difference between the Cambodian Governement and the genocidal thugs who were fighting it. Either way, he's a moron.

My favorite part is the whole, "I hope the guy would come out of the woodwork and say, “I’m the guy who went up with John Kerry" line. He doesn't know who the guy is? I think hundreds of guys of the right age should just start to confessing to being this guy. It would be like the end of Spartacus.

Then we'll see if he can pick his (imagenary) friend out from the 'real one'.

What a moron this guy is. And he came damn close to sitting in the Oval Office. What a nightmare that would have been.

106 Dave the.....  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:49:17pm

I've been going to different news sites to view the photo's. The two types that are most moving are:

Throngs of people out walking to the polls. To see dozens or perhaps hundreds walking down a highway to vote is such a slap in the face to the terrorists in Iraq and the doomsayers in the west.

The elderly. One shot shows an 83 year old being carried on the back of his son. Another shows a 91 year old voting with her family.

And the best part was, unlike where I vote, MoveOn.org was not at the polling locations.

107 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:51:24pm

And look what new Kerry-fake stories came out during the election. Didn't he say he was in Moscow right after the Berlin Wall fell, underground looking at the secret KJG files. But he named the wrong place?

And he also said he was over in the ME when the end of the Gulf War was declared, but records show it was weeks later...

108 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:52:13pm

. And 1968? Puh-leez. Practically no one outside of Cambodia had even heard of the Khmer Rouge in 1968. The US first bombed on the Cambodian side of the border in 1969, and foreign troops weren't crossing into Cambodia until 1970, John L. Kerry.
thank you.


most of us that served in vietnam know that the khmer rouge did not exist as a force, untill 1971, let alone need weapons.

kerry must be thinking about his secret meetings with the north vietnamese, as a traitor.
he probably discussed how to get weapons to the khmer communist, but not on his boat.

the man is traitor trash,
and should face a firing squad,
and i will pay for the bullets.

109 Earl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:52:31pm

#73 ex_dem

Kerry a 'a pompous, lying windbag'?

Nah- just a bitch's bitch. A pool boy long past his best-by date.

110 Connecticut Yankee  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:52:45pm

Not far OT: The Diplomad posted a fine suggestion on his blog today as a way of supporting our men and women in the military:

The other set of people to remember today are the soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines who knocked off the murderous Saddam regime and who continue to fight those who would restore it or replace it with something equally or more evil. Over 1300 of them have died in liberating Iraq; thousands more have suffered grievous injury. One way of saying thank you to those who have returned injured is by supporting with whatever you can the Wounded Warrior Project or other similar efforts. We would urge all of you to do what you can to help our wounded as they come home and try to readjust to life. Thanks.

Here is a link to the WWP: [Link: www.woundedwarriorproject.org...]

111 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:52:56pm
112 JP  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:53:32pm

My specialty for years was the detection of deception - in the spoken and written forms and use of body language as well.

I laughed my ass off at poor pitiful John. He is perhaps the worst liar I have seen. His arrogance and self importance convinces him that he can trick the little people.

His attempt to divert what little spotlight that he can still find to himself on such a historic day speaks volumes.

113 Atomic Crusader  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:53:49pm

I heard part of the interview and it made me furious. The real story here is that Tim Russert is willing to give this blowhard double crossing US troop backstabber any airtime at all. On the very day that Iraq holds an election after thousands of Americans gave their lives, Tim Russert takes it upon himself to let John Kerry give his opinion on current events, as if it matters at all, as if John Kerry's opinion is what is most important in light of the Iraq election. Absolutely shameful.

114 'Nam Grunt  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:53:53pm

hanoi john the traitor wouldn't know cambodia from the bahamas, nor has he ever been in combat F**king lying POS!

115 Blackhorse  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:54:06pm

First of all, I think Kerry has been shooting crunchy peanut butter into his veins.

The Khmer Rouge murdered (butchered) over a million Cambodians. (book: THE KILLING FIELDS) Even if it were true, no one in their right mind would admit to having a hand in genocide.

116 Goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:54:28pm

I bet if Kerry had been elected (thank you, Lord, for sparing us from that), today's Iraqi elections would have not occurred because they would have been postponed.

117 Ex_dem  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:56:12pm

I hope he gets some follow up questions about this. "Senator, did you run weapons to the Khmer Rouge? In 1968?" I suspect Shiplordkirel may be correct as to the motivation behind this bizarre statement. The US is always evil, therefore the US created/supported every evil regime, a la Chomsky. While Pol Pot's band of peasants did exist in 1968, IIRC, they were a very minor force. The problems began in earnest when the US started bombing VC encampments in Cambodia, accidentally hitting a village in the process, and the Pol Pot forces spread rumors that the government in Phnom Penh was having the US bomb villagers on purpose. This was all well after 1968, though.

118 NY Nana  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:56:59pm

#96 theparson

You mean this albore, the founder of the internet? :)

He could burn down the studio..too hazardous.

119 foreign devil  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:57:26pm

"Did Kerry get flustered at Russert’s question and start embroidering again?"

Looks like it. The Khmer Rouge were the enemy--but not in 1968-69. That came later.

120 theparson  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:57:43pm

You know... I think Kerry really believes this magic hat story. His Walter Mitty fantasies have become real in his mind.

121 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:57:55pm

IIRC, John Francois in his "Winter Soldier" testimony suggested that the US had an irrational fear of Communism.

Can't Google on the slow home computer, but he said something to the effect that communism was just another political system.


Does John Francois feel any guilt over the 2 to 3 million murdered during the Cambodian killing fields? Cambodia. Laos and Vietnam all fell just like the discredited "domino theory" said they would.


During Pol Pots reign, IIRC, all teachers, doctors, city residents were considered counter-revolutionaries. Waering eyeglasses was a capital offense, as it was a sign of education.


Pol Pot, of course, was educated in Paris.

122 richard mcenroe  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:58:47pm

#37 — Russert is not ignorant, he is actively covering for Kerry. Remember, he also refused to release the MTP footage of Kerry's 1971 interview...

123 theparson  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:59:00pm

NY Nana

He should stop eating those burrittos.

124 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:59:03pm

JP

What did you observe today, as in so far as, body language and speech deception? I love this stuff...

I remember during one debate, where Kerry brought Cheney's daughter, I saw him move in such a way as to make me think he knew what he was going to say was pre-planned and that, aha, here is the time to shoe horn the, "Cheney's daughter is a Lesbian", to shock and awe the viewers who still didn't know.

125 jlfintx  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:59:15pm

Eeevil

Did you understand my email about the url?

126 braindirt  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 2:59:35pm
I'm a poll expert... I think polls are almost irrelevent.

I agree with him. He's an expert in irrelevency.

127 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:00:12pm

LET FREEDOM RING!

WHAT A GREAT DAY!

128 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:03:17pm

What a moron this guy is. And he came damn close to sitting in the Oval Office. What a nightmare that would have been.

ferris,
and he will try to get there again,
we need an inquiry,
and his removal from the senate.
only bloggers can stay after him, the msm worship the guy.

129 Sarah D.  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:03:53pm

OT

10 Dead in British Plane Crash

My condolences to the families. To all our British LGFers, thanks for standing with us.

130 Plinypere  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:05:08pm

Kerry is a very disturbed person. His fantasies of becoming the creature in "Apocalypse Now" are just one aspect of his delusions. His debating club training to alternately take multiple sides of any issue deapened his flipflopping. His poor mother's last breaths could have just as well been "Rosebud, Rosebud, Rosebud." and there could be a whole library wing of analyses of his entire vapid life. Democrats clearly have no integrity either if they wanted to make him president. Thank God the rest of us knew the difference between fantasy and reality.

131 traveler  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:06:19pm

#112 JP
#124 Bubble Girl

I keyed on the body language right away. As he starts to head into "fantasy" territory, his head dips, as if he doesn't have confidence in the truth of what he's about to say. His voice projection lapses. It all comes together to appear as if he's talking through a burp.

He won't come to the point -- keeps going off topic in the middles of sentences, as if to jam as many words into the airspace as possible so the lie can be ushered in easier. As a result, it's incredibly hard for the listener to follow his thought.

Remember when Elaine on Seinfeld had to say something she didn't want to say? She kind of dipped her head, closed her eyes, gulped and looked uncomfortable? That's what he looked like.

He's a LIAR. And Russert is an asswipe for not calling him on it when he had the chance.

132 JP  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:07:49pm

Russert is an opportunist. He saw a chance to get a big name to denounce Bush on a day the MSM convinced themselves was going to be utter chaos. The intent was to provide Kerry the pulpit for the ultimate I told ya so.

Didn't quite work out that way for ole JFK.

133 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:08:47pm

How many weapons could a single river patrol boat bring, anyway?

134 Right Wing Nut Job  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:08:55pm

#127 eeevil conservative
What about the Pope releasing the Dove of Peace today. A coincidence?

135 LesLein  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:10:48pm

Page 49 of Unfit For Command clears up Kerry's whereabouts in December 1968:

"The story of Christmas 1968 has one final chapter. When refueling his PCF near Dong Tam, Kerry and his crew were told that the Bob Hope USO show was at the Dong Tam base. So Kerry decided to leave his station on the river and go searching for the Bob Hope Christmas show. Unable to find the show, he risked boat and crew by unknowingly blundering into one of the most dangerous canals in Vietnam, a canal that to those who knew the area was notorious for Viet Cong ambushes. Given the easy navigation by radar and map of the rivers involved -- not much more difficult than driving a car -- Kerry had just performed a feat of reverse navigation worthy of Wrong Way Corrigan."

"There is, of course, no record that Kerry ever informed anyone of what he did, where he was, or where he was going -- all required by regulations for the safety of the boat and crew. He did, however, record the Bob Hope adventure in his journal so he could be sure to share it in Tour of Duty."

136 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:11:08pm

132


JP- I hadn't thought of it that way, but that sounds quite reasonable.

Jean Francois obviously plans to run again in 2008. Does he really think he can beat Hillary, especially as he is already a loser?

138 theparson  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:11:25pm
He's a LIAR. And Russert is an asswipe for not calling him on it when he had the chance.

I wonder if Big Russ is proud.

139 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:11:50pm

125

jlfintx

I thought I had done that?
if ya click on my football- doesn't it show my blog?

it does when I click it...

140 theparson  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:14:09pm

eeevil

It's when we click on your name.

141 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:14:14pm

134 RWNJ


EXCELLENT-- NO COINCIDENCE IMHO!

wish i had a pic of that!

142 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:14:43pm

Does IowaHawk ever wish people like Rather and Jean Francois or Chappaquidick Teddy would just go one week without saying something so stupid, so he could have a week off?

143 Right Wing Nut Job  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:14:48pm

#139 eeevil conservative
Click on your nic to get your site. Your football shows your LGF identity.

144 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:15:25pm

It is bullshit, an outrageous example of leftist revisionism, to blame the rise of the Khmer Rouge on American bombing.
This assumes that widespread popular support was the reason for the Khmer Rouge victory, rather than, say, the massive assistance they received from their Vietnamese and Chinese communist allies or the US Congress's cut-off of aid to the anti-communist Cambodian government in 1974.

In 1969, when bombing started in Cambodia, everyone in the country knew that there were whole divisions of NVA troops, not just VC emcampments, occupying the eastern half of the country. Why would they not blame the Vietnamese communists and their allies, the Khmer Rouge and the Sihanouk regime, for bringing this down on them?
Sihanouk supported the communists and loudly condemned American bombing. Why would anyone blame him for it and join his enemies?
The fact is, the Khmer Rouge were not his enemies by then.

Further, the government the Khmer Rouge overthrew in 1975 was not the same one that held power in 1968 and 1969. It was an anti-communist government headed by General Lon Nol, and which had overthrown the pro-communist Sihanouk early in 1970. THAT is when the real trouble started.

It will take a hundred years to re-educate the indoctrinated masses about this, even though the relevant facts are not in dispute.

145 NY Nana  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:15:47pm

#123 theparson

Or brushing his teeth and using mouthwash! Now that I said that, I think his mother must have either been too lenient or too strict. He is a potty-mouth, and evertime he speaks, he only looks more stupid.

OT, but if this is what the dhummies are going to offer in 2008? I think that the Bush's dogs,Barney, and Miss Beazley!

Here is President Bush's statement on the election in Iraq.

146 Right Wing Nut Job  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:16:22pm

#141 eeevil conservative
The pic is the second on NewsMax.com

147 Loflyer  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:16:35pm

Just thinking about the last two Democratic losers to run for the presidency and one is struck by their common traits. They lie a lot. They are both flaming liberals. They haven’t accomplished much in government. They are both poor losers. The Democrats keep on saying the same old thing, they act like 911 did not occur, or if they do, it is only to attack the Republicans. They are losing their constituency and do not have the sense to re-evaluate and change their platform to reflect the change in this country since 911. They continue to pander to every liberal special interest group that represent small but vocal minorities that the vast majority of Americans dislike or have no interest in. Zell Miller told them like it is, and they shot the messenger out of intolerance to non-liberal ideas. The Democrats will lose the next election if they continue down the road to a left-wing socialist nanny state that most Americans abhor.

148 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:16:48pm

thepaaarson

MUAH (cyber smooch)

with all due respects to the misses, of course

well-- then I guess it works-- right?

149 traveler  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:16:59pm

#145 NY Nana

Thanks for the link to GWB's speech today. I saw it briefly. He just couldn't contain his smile!

150 Gunny  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:18:16pm

Ah, memories. reminds me of that time John and I were running molassis into Canada. With trucks owned by your father.

Wait. Sorry, different old fiction.

151 madawaskan  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:19:18pm

Karl Rove the First -the undercover CIA agent- in tandem with his future head of the CIA friend -Bush I- plot to cut the future greatness of the messiah of the DEMS -JFK II.

They convince Johnny to go up river without a battle.
Gave him a skunk cap for a hat.
Think that's a toupee...think again it's a Magic Hat.

152 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:19:37pm
153 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:19:39pm

I fought IN and OVER Cambodia in 1972. The enemy were the Vietnamese occupiers and their allies, the local communists known as Khmer Rouge. Our allies were the Cambodian government forces headed by General Lon Nol.
Period.

154 NY Nana  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:20:50pm

My bad: in this:

OT, but if this is what the dhummies are going to offer in 2008? I think that the Bush's dogs,Barney, and Miss Beazley!

I left out 'have a far better chance of winning!...but you guys knew that! :)

Yeah, PIMF, and I did preview! I will call my opthamologist in the AM.

155 Obi-Wan  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:21:18pm

When (not if) J effin' K is defeated as senator from Taxachusetts, his worst fear will be realized. He will become


Irrelevant

156 salt1907  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:21:45pm

Kerry managed to make one true statement during that interview - and I don't mean the part about giving weapons to the Khmer Rhouge (sp?), although I am sure JFK would have liked to have done that.

157 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:21:51pm

#133 Ed abdul Brigades,


Well they could likely carry a company's worth of rifles and ammo anyway on a Swiftboat. The Swifts were BIG and loud, think of them as being used as "battleships of the River" where their little cousins the PBR were more like cruisers and/or destroyers. A PT boat(which is the historical forebear of the Swift and PBR) was often used for covert mission profiles where a sub wouldn't work in ww2.

The Swift was the direct inheritor of the PT mission and was intended for coastal patrols and as such had a deeper draft, and was louder. The PBR was essentially a hotrod using high horsepower to ram a neat plastic package along a river with bookoo guns.

Jungle John can't seem to be bothered to acknowledge the differences in his book but they were pretty profound.

158 fmfnavydoc  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:22:00pm

Jackass Johnny embellishing his "war record"...what a freaking joke! Next thing out of his piehole will be that he took "uncle" Ho Chi Minh waterskiing down the Mekong...and that Gen. Creighton Abrams called him "rice paddy daddy" for his exploits up and down the Mekong and into Cambodia.

If I remember correctly, Johnny is suffering from "delusions of grandeur" - time to get some therapy, Johnny Boy!

159 ctstephen  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:22:14pm

148 eeevil

You can also add your site and a witty quote to your football
Click on "Manage Your Account" on the upper left side of LGF

160 theparson  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:23:42pm

eeevil

Thanks (cyber blush).

161 Al di Grandpa  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:24:12pm

GWB has had many call him names, show utter disrespect for the presidency. The LLL hates him. The MSM have treated him with disdain. But today, in Iraq, he has had a small measure of vindication. To KOS, DU, Michael Moore, Moveon, et. al...oh and Barbara Boxer and Ted Kennedy. For you folks:

And that goes for your cat too...

162 JP  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:24:28pm

Bubblegirl -

He was in rare form. He used almost every form of deception poorly.

All of his tricks deceived him today - he was beset with gross body movements, trouble controlling pitch of his voice, to the use of lots of extraneous information to avoid any direct answers. Beating around the bush so to speak.

All of these were readily noticed by even the most casual observer.

I've seen his type before - he has told so many lies that at this point I doubt that even he knows what the truth is.

163 Blackhorse  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:24:37pm
SEN. KERRY: I still have the hat that he gave me, and I hope the guy would come out of the woodwork

Well Mr. Kerry, If you are serious about the hat, I suggest you have it checked for DNA. This may help you find your mysterious friend. (Dan Rather, Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Barbara Boxer)

164 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:25:28pm

OK, since I was only 11 years old by 1975, I have never been drunk in either Viet Nam or Cambodia.


But I have been mightily buzzed in Thailand, which is in the general vicinity, and I once ate at a Cambodian restaurant in Oakland or Berkeley that had pretty spicy food.

165 Obi-Wan  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:25:46pm

#158 fmfnavydoc

More like

"Delusions of adequacy."

166 fmfnavydoc  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:25:48pm

BTW - I was the one that gave Johnny his majic hat - I was FIVE YEARS OLD AT THE TIME...

167 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:27:21pm

Thanks Sven- I'm not an expert of Vietnam era riverine warfare, although I play one on TV.

168 Asylum Aleikum  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:27:44pm
169 Connecticut Yankee  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:28:12pm

Mark Steyn, reporting for duty:

"Iraq is going to be just fine"

The ''realpolitik'' types spent so long worshipping at the altar of stability they were unable to see it was a cult for psychos. The geopolitical scene is never stable, it's always dynamic. If the Western world decides in 2005 that it can ''contain'' President Sy Kottik of Wackistan indefinitely, that doesn't mean the relationship between the two parties is set in aspic. Wackistan has a higher birth rate than the West, so after 40 years of ''stability'' there are a lot more Wackistanis and a lot fewer Frenchmen. And Wackistan has immense oil reserves, and President Kottik has used the wealth of those oil reserves to fund radical schools and mosques in hitherto moderate parts of the Muslim world. And cheap air travel and the Internet and ATM machines that take every bank card on the planet and the freelancing of nuclear technology mean that Wackistan's problems are no longer confined to Wackistan. For a few hundred bucks, they can be outside the Empire State Building within seven hours. Nothing stands still. ''Stability'' is a fancy term to dignify laziness and complacency as sophistication.

If you want a good example of excessive deference to the established order, look no further than Iraq. I'm often asked about the scale of the insurgency and doesn't this prove we armchair warriors vastly underestimated things, etc. I usually reply that, if you rummage through the archives, you'll find that I wanted the liberation of Iraq to occur before the end of August 2002. The bulk of the military were already in place, sitting in the Kuwaiti desert twiddling their thumbs. But Bush was prevailed upon to go ''the extra mile'' at the United Nations mainly for the sake of Tony Blair, and thanks to the machinations of Chirac, Schroeder and Co., the extra mile wound up being the scenic route through six months of diplomatic gridlock while Washington gamely auditioned any casus belli that might win the favor of the president of Guinea's witch doctor. As we know, all that happened during that period was that the hitherto fringe ''peace'' movement vastly expanded and annexed most of the Democratic Party.

So much for Kerry.

Link: [Link: www.suntimes.com...]

170 Frank IBC  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:28:26pm

#27 Pookieblinky -

Good thing that the Pope is not Irish. There is an Irish superstition that if a bird flies inside a house, someone in the household will die in the very near future.

171 Gunny  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:29:34pm

Well Ferris, ya shamed me into it. I'm Hat-icus.

172 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:30:05pm

im sorry,
i was to hard on jfnk,
i just woke up and had total recall,
it was me that gave him that hat.
i forgot about the trip up the Dong Tam river to see the bob hope show.
during a fire fight with the khmer communist, i was struck in the back of my head with a baseball bat. i still have the bat,
it was signed by roberta clemente,
anyway, back to the hat i gave john,
engraven on the back of the hat is jfk, i love you,
we were close friends. theresa is a bit#h
anyway,
john and i had a lovely trip, under a beautiful full moon.
we met the communist, and unloaded 800,000 lbs of weapons, and rice.
im going to write a book, and the movie will gross 24 million.

173 jlfintx  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:30:40pm

#139 Eeevil

I am not talking about the name, but the actual football itself. On some others, it also list the url when you click that on.

Btw, I see someone posted several at your blog under my nic again. I emailed you about that just now. I posted the one about basking in victory, but when I click on the imposter posting, it pulls up my data. Just so you know.

174 fmfnavydoc  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:31:50pm

ibmkeyboard - I just pissed on myself...UFB, dude!

175 jlfintx  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:32:10pm

Eeevil see #159

Thanks ctstephen

176 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:33:02pm
177 cali white bear  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:33:39pm

mein gott in himmel, what a choad.

did lots of goalpost moving on iraq today, too.

assclown.

perfect example too, of how blogs/internet will crater heretofire conventional politicians, as pointed out by prior lizards:

the Khmer were NOT in fact even around until after kerry left, and they were commies taking advantage of the turmoil next door, so we're running them guns why?

178 NY Nana  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:33:40pm

#149 traveler

You're welcome. He had every right to smile. All the dire predictions by the enemy..the dhummies and the u.n., plus Eurabia did not become reality, and they must be furious. In their blind hate of the President, and contempt, I honestly think they would rather have seen, G-d forbid, massive casualties and a very low voter turn out.

What I am interested in is what the cult of islam and all the arabs will say..I have a feeling that there will be more arabs living under repressive, brutal dictatorships that will now want the same right to a free vote that the Iraqis had today.

This is totally OT, but I wonder what will happen to the Jews left in Iraq: The Last Jew in Afghanistan

179 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:34:40pm
180 parkman  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:35:22pm

Of course... Kerry has said that the unbearable memory of President Nixon lying to the American people about the secret war in Cambodia was "seared" into his brain during Christmas of '68...

Which is REAL amazing since Nixon wasn't even inaugurated until Jan 20, 1969!...

What a SCUMBAG!...

Let's not forget about that Boston Marathon Kerry ran... One year... Right?...

America dodged one hell of a bullet in the election!...

181 Bob G.  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:35:43pm

He's still not ready to meet the press... press the meat, perhaps.

182 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:36:54pm

176 AI, which is why we need the nuke bunker busters...

183 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:37:40pm

According to NRO's "The Corner", the disturbance at a polling station in the UK was between Iraqi ex-pats, mostly Kurds trying to vote, and non-Iraqi Islamists opposing the elections.

184 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:37:56pm

#170 Frank IBC

Good thing that the Pope is not Irish. There is an Irish superstition that if a bird flies inside a house, someone in the household will die in the very near future.

Well, I ain't Irish but I know the Pope IS 85 and in ill health. Don't take the second sight to know he ain't got much longer.

Course, I been sayin' that for 5 years now...

185 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:39:07pm
186 NY Nana  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:39:08pm

#170 Frank I B C

I am a Bostonian by birth, and there has always been good sized Irish and Italian communities..but my Litvak (Lithuanian ancestry) Jewish family had the same superstition.

If anyone sent us a card with a bird on it? My Mum zt'l almost had one!

Our apartment has a balcony, and whenever a bird is on the railing, or the balcony? I freak out.

187 simarilian  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:39:34pm

Anyone consider that Effin was telling the truth about the Khmer Rouge? Maybe he was already working for the enemy in 68. It's just because of the election he's willing to talk now.

188 traveler  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:40:55pm

#178 NY Nana

What I am interested in is what the cult of islam and all the arabs will say..I have a feeling that there will be more arabs living under repressive, brutal dictatorships that will now want the same right to a free vote that the Iraqis had today.

Me, too. I posted elsewhere that I wondered what the Saudis and the other ME countries were thinking right now. What's their next move? Extend a hand to the newly-elected leader? Step up terrorism sponsorship in Iraq? Raise oil prices to mess with the U.S.?

Hard to tell what they'll do...But I'm sure the citizenry is buzzing...

189 Bobwolf  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:41:17pm

#110 Connecticut Yankee
Thanks for the heads up on the Wounded Warrior Project. It's a great outlet for the gratitude I feel. Their emblem of one soldier carrying a wounded buddy is heartrending but at the same time reminds us of what the USA is all about.

156 Salt 1907
There were two true statements. At the very end of the interview Russert asks Kerry something to the effect of what about the campaign most made a lasting impression on him.
His answer: "the American people, the American people blew me away."
For once, he was right.

190 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:41:28pm
191 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:42:28pm
192 foreign devil  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:44:30pm

What a complete fool! I sent NBC an email asking if the US was supplying Pol Pot with weapons. I suggest the rest of you send in enquiries too. If nothing else, it'll give NBC a cold chill thinking they've allowed their beloved 'candidate' to put a foot so terribly wrong and horror of horrors, the 'great unwashed' have picked up on it. Go for it!

193 traveler  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:44:45pm

#191 American Infidel

I was highly suspicious of a connection when I read that headline, but my "international intrigue quotient" is pretty low...:>)

194 ferris  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:45:30pm

#171 Gunny

Well Ferris, ya shamed me into it. I'm Hat-icus.

LOL

BTW-Great photos of the election on your site.

195 KWH  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:45:37pm
It was seared...seared in my mind

Ok, now we know what has happened to johnny boys brain.

196 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:45:52pm

#192 Foreign Devil,


Can you zap me a link to their news contact site?

I will be HAPPY to pen an e-mail.

197 traveler  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:46:04pm

#192 foreign devil

Send it to Fox News & Drudge, too...

Couldn't hurt.

198 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:46:22pm

Lil Kim sad Jean Francois lost


Here in the north of the country, faith, crime and sheer cold are eroding the regime’s grip at a speed that may surprise the CIA’s analysts: facts that should give ammunition to conservatives in Washington who call for a hardline policy.

Bush’s re-election dealt a blow to Kim, 62, who had gambled on a win by John Kerry, the Democratic candidate. Kim used a strategy of divide and delay to drag out nuclear talks with the United States, China, Russia, Japan and South Korea through 2004.

Kim lost his bet and now faces four more years of Bush, who says that he “loathes” the North Korean leader and has vowed to strip him of atomic weapons.



Link

199 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:47:17pm

#107, Bubble Girl:

And look what new Kerry-fake stories came out during the election. Didn't he say he was in Moscow right after the Berlin Wall fell, underground looking at the secret KJG files. But he named the wrong place?

Actually, Jean François said that during one of the presidential debates. Except he said that KGB headquarters was in "Treblinka Square".

200 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:47:54pm

#186 NY Nana

Our apartment has a balcony, and whenever a bird is on the railing, or the balcony? I freak out.

So I guess it's a bad thing when the roosters get upset cause I haven't fed them yet on a weekend morning and jump up on the window skils and look into the house, huh?

201 traveler  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:48:29pm

Does this mean JFK will be reinstated into the Heroes of Communism Museum (or whatever it's called) like he used to be? (Conveniently removed for the election, mind you.) Vietnam wanted to express their gratitude for his help...

202 mich-again  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:49:02pm

Gosh I really wanted to read it all the way through, but I just couldn't go any further than the Howard Dean ass-kissing segment. Does he make this stuff up as he goes along or does he rehearse his answers while looking in the mirror blow drying his mop. And he's still bitching about Ohio. Jeeesh.

203 Beagle  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:49:40pm

Hammorabi's (mentioned on MSNBC) most recent post on the election
[I can't post in long threads so it goes here.]

It's hard to believe so-called liberals could be unhappy on a day like today. I guess I should be used to it by now. They supported the Soviet Union when I was in college, support Castro, Mugabe, Kim Jong Il, Saddam, the al Qaeda "insurgency" - basically any fascist, Communist, or theocratic thugs.

204 NY Nana  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:49:46pm

#188 traveler

Right now, on O'Reilly, he is talking to an an arab about it.

Talk to you later...

205 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:50:04pm
206 Boss429  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:50:12pm

the legacy of John Kerry started in the back seat of a car and was tossed out the window and it grew

207 Ex_dem  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:50:49pm

144 Shiplordkirel

It is bullshit, an outrageous example of leftist revisionism, to blame the rise of the Khmer Rouge on American bombing.
This assumes that widespread popular support was the reason for the Khmer Rouge victory, rather than, say, the massive assistance they received from their Vietnamese and Chinese communist allies or the US Congress's cut-off of aid to the anti-communist Cambodian government in 1974.

Okay, first, I'm not blaming American bombing for the rise of the Khmer Rouge, and the people who have done that are wrong. It was an indigenous evil that had a lot to do with racial issues in Cambodia (resentment against non-Khmer), rivalry with Vietnam, and communist madness taken to the extreme. From what I have read, though, US bombing was a factor in that Khmer Rouge propaganda blamed the government in Phnom Penh, the Lon Nol regime, for ordering attacks on peasant villages, and there was at least one case of an entire village being wiped out by pilot error. It was of course not true that either the US or Lon Nol were intentionally targeting Cambodian peasants, but the rumor served Pol Pot's purposes, and illiterate peasants believed it. It was and still is a very primitive country; many of the Khmer Rouge had never seen things as basic as toothpaste and glass bottles when they arrived in the capital. And the Khmer Rouge did indeed have both support from Vietnam and China as well as a significant base of popular support at the time they took power. They flamed resentment of the peasants toward the more well-to-do city dwellers. The residents of Phnom Penh and Battambang were terrified of them (rightly so), but many of the peasants really believed in the revolution, at least until the Khmer Rouge began communalizing their lives and putting them in work details. There are still people in Cambodia who support the Khmer Rouge, and not a single Khmer Rouge has ever been brought to trial.

All I know is what I've read, which, admittedly is only about three or four books, as there aren't very many on the subject, and from what I heard from Cambodians while I was in the country.

208 harley  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:53:58pm

#64 Thor
I think you may be right about john kerry being mentally ill. That would explain the ceasless lying and thinking everyone around him will swallow it without question.


#118 NY Nana
That was a great picture, LOL

209 dennisw  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:54:17pm
210 iron dave  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:55:44pm

John Kerry has been known to claim (in the Senate, even) that he had been shot at by the Khmer Rouge, among others. I guess it's true what they say about how hard it is to keep all the lies straight. Too bad telling the truth isn't an option.

211 Ex_dem  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:56:01pm
Anyone consider that Effin was telling the truth about the Khmer Rouge?

He would have needed the Texas Air National Guard to lend him the time machine SeeBS thinks they have.

212 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 3:56:09pm
213 madawaskan  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:00:12pm

ibmkeyboard

Roberto Clemente

Two pounds of Isey's ice cream,and a role down Squirrel Hill for yunes.


And -Irish superstition #2-shoes on the table-DEATH I TELL YA!

214 huckfunn  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:01:21pm

When you listen to, or read, anything that Kerry has ever said or written , it makes you wonder how in the world he was ever elected and re-elected for 20 years. Same thing with Kennedy.

Arkansas, Kentucky and West Virgina are the traditional butts of every sort of joke about a barefoot, dumbass, ignorant, illiterate, hairlipped, sister-humpin' and uninformed populace. But what about the mental fitnees of the voters of Massobtuseness (that's my coinage) for sending the K-K's back to the Senate every 4 years for an entire generation? They certainly believe everthing those 2 morons say, but do they, and can they, understand the un-understandable? Mass. was the only state in the union that had a net loss of population in the last census. It seems to me that anyone with 2 working brain cells are escaping that polluted gene pool.

So here's the question... If Johnny and Susie get divorced in Masobtuseness, are they still brother and sister?

215 Snake Plissken  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:01:43pm

There was only one part that mattered -- for me, anyway. I don't even know if I remember all of it. I can't remember how it ended, exactly -- because when it ended I was insane.

- Capt. Willard (Just before he got sent up into Cambodia to kill Kurtz)

This guy's the real deal...uh huh.

216 LSD  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:01:51pm

I'm just stoked GWB got elected prez ...

And Iraqi's found Freedom through a Ballot and a Blue digit ...

Kerry can say whatever he wants, he's an irrelevant mo'fo ...

Power To The People

217 jlfintx  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:02:09pm

Eeevil

Email and let me know you got mine if you are still online.

218 Aisha  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:02:14pm

#118 NYNana

ULULULULULUL! That is a glorious photo! I am going to invite that guy to give a sermon at my local Mosque! He'll fit right in - straight after the HAMAS recruiter!

Allahu Akhbar!

219 LSD  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:03:05pm

And America's Warriors Rock On !

220 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:03:33pm

#207 ex dem,

good post,
and you are aware that all this happened long after kerry left vietnam. after his 10 week tour of duty.

221 traveler  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:05:46pm

#210 iron dave

John Kerry has been known to claim (in the Senate, even) that he had been shot at by the Khmer Rouge, among others. I guess it's true what they say about how hard it is to keep all the lies straight. Too bad telling the truth isn't an option.

hmmm...sounds like a great outline for a book for all you Lizardoids who aspire to being an author...

There should be no shortage of material: 20 years of senate records, magazine interviews -- nobody really fact-checking him until he decided to run for President, so his mouth probably shot off lies like Claudine Longet's gun.

222 Ex_dem  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:08:18pm

ibmkeyboard

and you are aware that all this happened long after kerry left vietnam. after his 10 week tour of duty.

Oh yes. That's where the CBS time machine comes in.

Maybe we should lay off Kerry, though, you know, take pity on the guy. It must be really hard to fit all those fantasies into such a short period of time . . .

223 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:09:43pm

#213
no offense to roberto clemente,
one heck of a ball player.
and del. a lot more food and supplies to poor people, than jfnk did in his life.

224 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:09:48pm

okay

updated my football

(THANKS SCSTEPHEN)

What ya think?

225 madawaskan  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:10:46pm

ibmkeyboard

Hope you know I'm just joshin' but

robertA-I'm wounded.

That is the only baseball card I still have.

Wounded I tell ya.

Pittsburgh we're gonna get yunes to vote for our guy next time...

226 Right Wing Nut Job  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:11:22pm

#224 eeevil conservative
It fits you perfectly!

227 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:16:03pm

226 RWNJ

LOL!

THANKS!

228 Timbre  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:16:37pm

No, no, no...he was running opium north to Chiang Mai...or was it south?

229 [Engineer]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:17:12pm

This is off topic, but somehow fits in a thread about Kerry. Things are worse in Germany than you knew.

A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual services'' at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year.

'If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits'

230 jlfintx  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:17:13pm

#224 Eeevil

I like it!

Email at the other tomorrow.

231 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:18:19pm

#225
roberto clemente,
it is now seared,...seared into my memory,
but i was hit in the back of the head, during a fire fight...

232 Sarah D.  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:20:33pm

Okay, I see you all got it! Disregard post in the other thread. I had to run to the store...and missed it..sorry!

(Re: football URL thingy)

233 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:20:50pm

Every time I hear or see anything about Kerry-- I picture him in the highchair squawling with Boxer--- LOL!

CHARLES-- THAT WAS A PERFECT POST!

LOL!

I can't wait to see what Cox and Forkum come up with tomorrow!

LOL!

234 JHW  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:21:07pm

#135 Les, I really cracked up reading that little tidbit, Kerry couldn`t find the Dong Tam base camp to go to a Bob Hope show. My division, Army, was the 9th, and it`s HQ was Dong Tam.It was situated about a quarter mile or less off the main Mekong River. You`d have had to been blind to miss it. The Navy had a base for it`s boats about 2 or 3 miles downriver, in the town of My Tho. The Mekong is a good mile wide there. If that blundering idiot couldn`t go 3 miles upriver without seeing a huge Army base with constant ingoing and outgoing aircraft flights, instead getting lost in one of those narrow side canals...Well, I `m amazed his crew didn`t throw the idiot dipshit over the side.My sympathies to any Navy men that had to serve anywhere near this pussy.

235 mich-again  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:21:33pm

212 American Infidel

I just saw the name Howard Dean, well it looks like Howard is going to be the new DNC Chairman...Even Ickes (I hoped I spelled that right, the Clintonista) now supports him, came out with his support last week or two weeks ago...Giant slap to Hillary & Billy...

Howard got the job? Yeeeaaarrrghhh!

But really, how can RunDNC ignore Hill & Bill? They are both masterful politicians who should never be underestimated or ignored. The Dems should always just ask "What Would Bill Do?" I never really liked the guy, but I always respected his ability to read a situation and do the right (political) thing. Howard? Sorry, he's like a can of soup with a big dent in it. Damaged goods. THE tirade ruined him forever.

236 Rancher  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:22:58pm

OT-

Just stained my finger and feel kind of silly. Should have waited till tomorrow, I'll have to wear a glove so my sheets don't get stained.

237 cba  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:23:05pm

#169 Connecticut Yankee:
Thanks for the link to the latest Steyn. I love that guy--he makes great points, and with great humour:

Even on the Sunni side of the street, there are signs the smarter fellows understand their plans to destroy the election have flopped and it's time to cut themselves into the picture.
238 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:23:23pm

RWNJ

just in case I haven't done it lately...

MUAH!

jlfintx

Thanks-- definitely...tomorrow!


Sarah D.

LOL!

I have no clue with the technical computer stuff!

LOL!

239 huckfunn  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:23:41pm

#228 Timbre

No, no, no...he was running opium north to Chiang Mai...or was it south?

Hmm... if he went south from Chiang Mai he was probably running rubbers and thai-sticks to Bangkok, Sattahip and Utapao... The plot thickens.

240 hoosierdaddy  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:24:48pm

With what I've seen and heard him spew out of his pie hole today that stands so much against what we've spent our sons and daughter lives on I just wonder how much farther he'll be allowed to go before he crosses a line that lands himself behind bars or in front of a hangmans noose for treason.

I would never expect to hear what I have heard from Kerry today from an elected official unless he thought he was above the laws of those who elected him. To denounce the ideas behind our constitution and deny or downplay their meaningfulness to others is a clear and present representation of why he failed to become the leader of the most powerful country in the world.

Mr. Kerry the world appreciates your ability to articulate with us, enjoy your life as the senator from mASS, hopefully it will be as shortlived as your dreams of being the president of the U.S.

241 Hankmeister  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:25:03pm

John Fraud Kerry is a real piece of $#!t. Now he admits to being a weapons runner to a regime which later murder 2.5 million of its own people. But do we dare believe that since the Kymer Rouge wasn't even a military/political force until several years AFTER Lt. Fraud left the theater of operations? And I still want an official clarification of Mr. Kerry's status under the Constitution since it looks to be more and more the truth he perjured himself before the U.S. Senate and shortly thereafter illegally consorted with the enemy while still on active reserve status with the Navy. Though it would be difficult to make it legally stick, but isn't that engaging in traitorous activities under the Constitution?

What a pathological liar and a seditious political opportunist to boot! You'd think he would have wised up by now and kept his pie-hole shut. It is a pathology with this kook. I agree with one of the earlier posters on this thread, let's sic the Swift-boat vets on this lying jackal and follow up on the petition filed with Senator Frist to find out what the real story is on this moonbat from Massachusetts.

Oh, and to clear the air once for all, he should be politically shamed into signing Form 180 to find out exactly what kind of discharge he initially received from the Navy before he had it whitewashed under Carter's general amnesty.

242 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:25:56pm
243 adie  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:26:14pm

I was digging around for a map of Cambodia/Vietnam, so I could see the point about the Cambodian "coastline" being mutually exclusive of going 5 miles north of Ha Tein. I had trouble finding one at large enough scale.

However, I found something else:

Free Republic - Can't Get There (Cambodia) From Here

Special to The Augusta Free Press

I read with great interest the article from Alan Schlingenbaum (The politics of distortion, Monday AFP). This title only applies to Alan's article and not to the facts that he has tried to refute. My name is Doug Regelin, and since my name and my facts are brought up in Alan's article so prominently, I think it's only proper that I try to expose Alan for what he really is.

First some facts. Alan and I traded a few e-mails in an effort to resolve what he thought were blatantly incorrect facts that I had stated in my first article. That it was impossible to navigate to Cambodia by water from either of the two An Thoi patrol areas. Since Sen. John Kerry was on a Swift Boat when he allegedly went to Cambodia, my assumption was that it was not possible to navigate to Cambodia by water in a Swift Boat. I stand by this conclusion. Alan has obviously been in contact with others who have given him the same information, but he still chose to go ahead and distort the truth about the contents of the e-mails we exchanged.

Alan has correctly stated that there are numerous canals and tributaries that proceed north from the Vinh Te canal and avoid the mouth of the Bassac. That is correct. None of them, however, will support a Swift Boat. If Alan would like to claim that Kerry went into Cambodia on a sampan, I will concede this point. Sampans are small, maneuverable and very quiet. They were the preferred transport of the Viet Cong. There were a number of small canals that ran north from the Vinh Te that could support sampans, but none of them could support a Swift Boat. Alan can look at maps all he wants. I was there, and it just wasn't possible.

Does anyone have the disposable time and income to do a documentary? If the waterways are too shallow, it would be pretty funny seeing people walking up them. Though LLLs would probably claim they were using stilts. Anything to avoid reality.

244 Marc Poitras  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:26:16pm
In the most celebrated telling of this story before the U.S. Senate in 1986, Kerry said: "I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared – seared – in me."

So the Khmer shot at the guy who was bringing them weapons? Maybe they didn't know who he was ("Do you know who I am?")

245 'Nam Grunt  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:29:46pm

#236 Rancher,

Spew alert with coke on my keyboard, ROFLMAO, I don't know you but you shouldn't tell on yourself like that.

246 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:35:20pm

{{{[ Nam Grunt }}}

Just hadn't hugged ya in a while-- and felt like huggin' ya!

247 JamesW  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:35:28pm

A Beantwon radio talk show did an online poll asking the listeners which of the two Bay State Senators (Lurch or Fatboy) they thought superior. There was no option for 'neither!'

I hate living here at times.

248 madawaskan  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:35:52pm

Just about had my Dad -the CIA spywho went up with Kerry-convinced to come "out of the woodwork" and save Johnnie's story.

That's until he heard he'd have to admit fencing weapons to the Khmer Rouge(this is code for Pops to lay low).

Pops was for coming out before he was against it.

But maybe Edwards will out him...

249 'Nam Grunt  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:40:03pm

Thanks eeevil, your hugs are always welcome, isn't this day great, almost as good as the day Dubya won.

250 madawaskan  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:41:51pm

Ibm keyboard

LOL!

#247 James W.

I just read for the first time today some people calling it-

Mass-a-hole-its!

251 JHW  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:43:02pm

#249 madawaskan, maybe your dad got lost in one of those little canals too. Tell him there`s still hope , if j-k can get away withit, why not him. ROFLMAO, good one.

252 GrassyKnoll_1963  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:47:25pm

What's worse?

Being wrong about WMD or being purposely lied to by Kerry.

Being lied to by Kerry is a deliberate act.

253 huckfunn  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:47:55pm

Here are some good questions, comments and insults for Kerry/Kennedy.
you are a disgusting fatbody

254 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:49:44pm

NAM

YES! THE DAY IS GLORIOUS!

255 GrassyKnoll_1963  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:50:54pm

John Kerry: I love the fresh smell of Khmer Rouge in the morning ...

256 realwest  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:52:54pm

What an absolute crock of shit. I was in Cambodia in 1970 and giving, selling or swapping weapons with the the Khmer Rouge is just absurd. Yeah, I worked off the approved map and both the KR and Cambodian Merc's were extremely dangerous and never trusted by any of us.
I also don't get this new little flip-flop - before the election, he was absolutely HORRIFIED to find himself in a neutral country; now he's bragging about it?
Hey John, were you with:
CCN
CCC or
CCS
FOAD.

257 jlfintx  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:55:06pm

welp, it is time for me to pack it in folks and this week has started off just fantasticly. Btw I got an email from Ollie North this week, that is just too cool.

258 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:55:10pm

realwest


where's that whiskey bottle?

BTW

tonight is such a GLORIOUS NIGHT

so much to celebrate

I wonder if Charles would do a Karaoke thread?

WE DESERVE TO CUT LOOSE AND CELEBRATE A LITTLE

DOnt ya htink?

259 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:55:57pm

So has anyone, anyone, seen this hat? Ever?

260 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:56:07pm

Well I penned my e-mail to NBCNews using some of the points here.

That is a pretty amazing trick considering that at the time the "honorable" John Kerry was in Vietnam the Khmer Rouge was a small concern still 2 years from its salad days of 3000 let alone 30,000 members. It was also in the northern provinces away from the river, but I am sure that the "esteemed" Senator was "misremembering" as Bush would be excoriated if he engaged in the same heated fantasy as fact plays.


[Link: www.infoplease.com...]


You may want to inform your boy Johnny that the next time he tries to meld his story with Coppola's that we were SUPPORTING the government of Sihanouk in 1968 in an effort to stem the Ho Chi Minh trail that was largely in vain. In 1969 the soon to be Lon Nol government(ie the military) started to engage the Communists(of whom Prince Sihanouk was an ally) and Sihanouk and the KR started a shaky alliance whereby the KR used sihanouk to give them airs of credibility. Unfortunately a few missteps in our bombing campaign after Lon Nol's coup in early 1970 were the main dues ex machina as it allowed Pol Pot to engage in black PR stating that Lon Nol was asking the US to bomb the peasantry.

The first massive US ground incursions were not until 1970, and prior to that time the majority of work inland was done by MACV/SOG, LRRPS, and Marine Scout/Snipers. None of these forces used Swiftboats as their main insertion method. You guys really owe it to yourselves to go put your eyeballs on a PBR and a Swiftboat and ask yourselves, "which one of these makes more sense for a sneak, peak, and infil mission profile?"

To reiterate we are to believe:

1) Maybe in 1968 President-elect Nixon ordered him across the border into Cambodia at the coast near Phnom Penh, hundreds of miles from any fighting in Vietnam, to give weapons to an obscure Maoist group of no more than a few hundred peasant fighters opposing a US ally. (never mind that the President-elect is NOT Commander-in-Chief until after inauguration i.e. mid to late jan. 1969)

2) President-elect Nixon then made an unprecedented radio address to deny that he, the president-elect, had sent troops into Cambodia. (after all the 'esteemed" Mr. Kerry insists he heard the "President" telling the American people he had not sent US troops into Cambodia, and thus since a simple lexis/nexis shows that the PRESIDENT LBJ had made no such speech the "esteemed" Mr. Kerry must have been talking about "eebil Nixon")

3)The few existing Khmer Rouge, of course, journeyed down from the northern part of the country near Laos all the way to the capital/South Vietnamese border to receive these weapons from John F. Kerry.(hey if he says it it must be so...what kind of rifles was he delivering there Little Russ-I'll bet Big Russ loves your tough follow-ups with Democrats)

4)He got a magic hat out of the deal.( so that's enough proof for me *snicker*...do you guys ever ask to see the hat like a signed 180?)

In closing I am in rapt awe that you people are insisting that your pursue Kerry with ANYTHING like the vehemence you show the Bush administration. NBC is better than CBS, but that is damn faint praise as in the immortal words of Abraham Lincoln, "I am often told I am prettier than an ape." "Little Russ" needs to hide his bias under a basket for awhile or start down the path to Ratherhood.


regards,
Frank Howell


Will update on what response if any I get...

261 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:56:08pm

#255, grassy

LOL
sucked coke up my nose.

sorry charles,
coca cola up my nose.

man,
does that ever burn.

262 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 4:57:30pm

257 jlfintx

AN EMAIL FROM OLLIE!

OH! I am sooo jealous!

HOW COOL!

get a good night's rest!

263 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:00:03pm

#259 Bubble Girl,

Well Bubble we are lead to believe by Al Wa-Po that one of their "aces" saw it and that is where the story of it first appears...who knows?

264 GrassyKnoll_1963  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:01:14pm

#257

So how long will it be before a copy of that email from Ollie winds up for sale on ebay?

265 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:03:05pm

#229 Engineer

This is off topic, but somehow fits in a thread about Kerry. Things are worse in Germany than you knew.

A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual services'' at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year.
'If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits'

So they can compell any woman up to age 55 to work as a prostitute or she loses her unemployment benefits? Cool. So I reckon you can get really good workmen's comp for sexually transmitted diseases, huh?

I think the ladies over 55 should sue for age discrimination.

266 jlfintx  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:03:24pm

Grassy

It is not for sale, and actually I confess I sent him one asking a question about one of his books. He was very gracious to respond.

267 Rancher  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:05:42pm

OK, ‘Nam, so you know what I’m talking about, allot of us are staining our index fingers blue to show solidarity with the brave Iraqis who voted amid threats of death and torture. See
NRO

268 GrassyKnoll_1963  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:05:58pm

#266

I mentioned it because a letter from a hero like Ollie has great value.

And yes. Ollie is a hero.

269 NY Nana  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:06:10pm

#208 Harley

Uh, not necessarily before dinner...

#218 Aisha

I thought he might make a really perfect BBQ source for lamb kebabs.

Here is one that might not be haram(sp?). I hope you have a spare burka or 3 to cover this wanton, immoral duo!

Would they be stoned, by any chance? If so, I am sure we could raise the money to send these 2 poverty-stricken Massachsetts residents to a place where it could be done. In the old days ,they burned witches at the stake!

BTW, did anyone think that Hanoi john looked like an exhibit at Mme. Tussuad's today? Looks like if anyone lit a match under him, he would melt!

270 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:06:59pm

#263, lead=led...

PIMF

271 jlfintx  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:08:04pm

Well this is actually an email, not a letter.

Actually offered him an idea about future printings of his book and new books and he thought it was a "GREAT IDE"

That was the way he actually stated it and I wonder if that is military lingo or something.

It was signed as

OLN

Semper Fidelis

272 GrassyKnoll_1963  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:08:30pm

#261

What hurts even more is after sucking Coca Cola up your nose, you shoot it back out again through the nose.

273 theparson  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:10:25pm

jlfintx

Is that the one where you asked him to put maps in his book?

"GREAT IDE" is a military misspelling for "GREAT IDEA"

274 PETN Sandwich  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:12:27pm

Kerry's been huffing way too much paint. Huffing, by the way, is why he was chaptered out of the miltary. I can proove it in about twenty minutes, the latest version of MS Word, and a few runs through the ol' photocopier.

275 jlfintx  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:12:46pm

Yes Parson, that is the one. It is a keeper, not for sale, but does that mean I can not gloat?

276 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:12:59pm

"GREAT IDE" is a military misspelling for "GREAT IDEA"

ROFLLL

277 jlfintx  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:13:25pm

It wasn't actually that question as maps were already in there.

278 theparson  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:14:06pm

jlfintx

LOL

279 eeevil conservative  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:14:13pm

jlfintx


YES! YOU MAY GLOAT!|

I WOULD!

280 Bill M  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:14:26pm

#171 Gunny 1/30/2005 05:29PM PST
Well Ferris, ya shamed me into it. I'm Hat-icus.

---

No, I am Hat-icus!

281 foreign devil  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:16:23pm

#196 sven 10077:

This may be too late but here's the link for NBC, MSNBC et al in that group:

[Link: www.msnbc.com...]

282 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:18:43pm

#281 FD,

Thanks...

I found it, but for those that want to get a piece of Jungle John and 'little russ'

MTP@NBC.COM


happy hunting...

sven

283 madawaskan  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:21:06pm

JHW- I think pops is in too deep. Cause we are talkin' Kerry's canal right?


La Voila-

That's it Kerry's got Coke up his nose.


Who knew dancin' Iraqis would be dancin' a jig on Kerry's career.

284 Ex_dem  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:27:39pm

260 sven

LOL! Glad to have been of help.

Man, oh man, I hope he gets asked about this the next time he goes on TV -- hope someone gives him one of those forms to sign, as well.

Not really OT, but it strikes me as sad that someone his age would still be lying about his youth after all these years. George W. could just come out and admit that he was a drunk -- a drunk! -- while John L. Kerry constantly comes up with new lies to cover his old ones. Absolutely pathetic. If Kerry had just told the truth from the beginning, I think he would have won.

285 theparson  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:30:03pm

jlfintx

So, have you had any celebrity emails lately?

286 snuss  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:31:02pm

SEN. KERRY: I still have the hat that he gave me, and I hope the guy would come out of the woodwork and say, “I’m the guy who went up with John Kerry. We delivered weapons to the Khmer Rouge on the coastline of Cambodia.”

Its me John … I think I’m the guy that went up the river with you … what a time we had chicks drugs and all the liquor we could drink … but John we were in Vietnam shooting film footage of combat REENACTMENTS for you future in politics … don’t you remember the fake blood, all the metals hanging off your shirt, I was the director … I think? I warned you about all those dugs and hallucinations … Cambodia (ha) that’s a good one.

287 Geepers  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:31:21pm
I really don't like being lied to, repeatedly, flagrantly, intentionally. It's wrong. It's undemocratic. It's un-American and it's dangerous.

~ Senator Dayton at Condoleezza Rice's confirmation hearings.

The hypocrisy of the left is boundless.

288 Miggie  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:34:49pm

Kerry and Edwards are going to be the answers to trivia questions in a few years.

289 Eagle  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:36:43pm

John F'ing Who?

290 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:37:13pm

284 Ex-Dem,

Thanks for the help...I agree with your analysis and your and my experiences and scholarship on the matter seem to match up. I decided to use your words for the most part because they were well-crafted and i wanted to acknowledge that I had used them. The MSM needs to learn that even those of us without PhDs can read and learn.

regards,
sven

ps, remember they ARE losing...

291 madawaskan  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:37:48pm

Actually I've talked some more to my Dad(aka the REAL hat-icus)


And he says he's in too deep he feels stuck.

He used this Frenchie Vietnamese military term I don't know if you all are familiar with this term-it's just for spooks in the know-

Quagmire.

/ssshhh very hush-hush.

292 riverofpearls  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:38:21pm

I missed Meet The Press this morning. Now I am watching it. Why I ask are they discussing the election in November? I would think yesterday's election would be the topic for today. But maybe they MTP thought the Iraqi election would go bad and then JFK could have the final word?

293 Vulgorilla  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:41:23pm

John effin Kerry has become our national joke. Between his 'trip to Cambodia to deliver weapons to the Kmer Rouge', and Teddy's recent fuckwit speech, the folks of Taxachusets should be mighty proud! Heh.

294 riverofpearls  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 5:50:19pm

Anyway I went over to FOX. Ain't Geraldo great?

295 Hurin son of Huor  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 6:12:52pm

Oh, absolutely. Who among us does not like John Forbes Kerry?

I guess ol' Kerry didn't get the memo from his biographer Douglas Brinkley during the campaign -- the one that said the Christmas in Cambodia tale wasn't true?

Paging Mister O'Neill. Mister John O'Neill. Will you and your fellow vets please suit up once again?

It's really funny that this clown and his supporters don't understand why they lost: it doesn't matter how nice you say something if we... just... don't... believe... you. And nothing has changed. Could Kerry have sounded more bitter with his comments on Iraq? Over-hype my big white (sounds of cursing, breaking things).

I'll give it to Russert, he finally asked some tough questions (after the election).

296 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 6:17:39pm

I really wish I hadn't missed Kerry on Meet the Press this morning. The guy fascinates me. He makes Gore look, well, almost human, and that is no small feat.

297 RMalloy  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 6:24:53pm

So where is Douglas Brinkley? Kerry has told so many "stories" one would need a Senate Hearing to straighten them all out.

298 huckfunn  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 6:37:06pm
299 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 6:39:48pm

Of all the media-left's crimes, the wholesale Orwellian distortion of history is probably the most offensive to me personally. The recently indoctrinated "know," for instance, that the US supported the genocidal Khmer Rouge and is therefore complicit in their crimes. They are vague on details, however. To a left-conformist, a vague description like "support" is a fact, however.

The hell of it, the truly infuriating thing, is that the facts that contradict this now-orthodox view are not even in dispute. The Khmer Rouge were solidly allied with the Vietnamese communist enemy throughout the period of US participation in the Vietnam War.
They fought side by side with their Vietnamese comrades against US, South Vietnamese and Cambodian government troops thoughout the period 1970-75. Earlier, the tiny movement had fought sporadically against the Sihanouk government, and more often supported it, mainly to enforce Sihanouk's continued tolerance for the Vietnamese communist occupation of eastern Cambodia.
Again, there is no doubt at all of this, lefty media and professor-liars simply ignore it when they accuse the United States.
Later, the United States under Jimmy Carter opposed the Vietnamese invasion that toppled their former comrades in 1979. This opposition was naturally limited to diplomatic protests and various other Carteresque hand-wringing. There were no weapons, no money, and no material assistance of any kind. The US, even under Carter, never recognized the Khmer Rouge regime. The Carter administration did ship weapons to Thailand when that country was threatened by the Khmer Rouge during the same period, however.

Similarly, the left-revisionist devils have now persuaded another generation of dupes that Saddam Hussein was an anti-communist client of the United States.
"Hey," one left-liar recently declared, "he was our anti-communist dictator, so we backed him." For left-devils, the facts are altered to fit the memes, not the other way around.

It is a fact that Iraq was closely allied with the Soviet Union almost to the end of the Cold War. They armed him, not with dual-use hardware and ag-credits as we did, but with many billions of dollars worth of actual weapons. The Baath Party solidly supported the Soviets on Vietnam and the invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968.
The Hate-America devils will point out that the Communist Party of Iraq was illegal during this period. So what? McCarthy notwithstanding, communism was not a global monolith.
Not all communist parties were in favor at the Kremlin, and the Baathists definitely were. Again, there is no doubt at all of this.

Remember that the sole, concious purpose of these lies is to strengthen the terrorist enemy as it seeks to massacre Americans.
I want to see these bastards, these lying devils, brought up before a post-war Tribunal, tried, and hanged for complicity in the Islamists' global assault on civilization.

300 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 6:41:46pm

#298 Huck Funn

Awesome... Priceless...

Peace Sign on your helmet and a Born To Kill Button, the Duality of Man, Jungian thing, sir...


"Inside every Gook is an American waiting to get out."

301 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 6:48:35pm

Shiplord

Good post. Kerry is involved, in some way, but I can't figure it out. One thing is for certain. No one has come forward who said they went on those boat rides to Cambodia, not even his little paid off band o brudders. It has been alluded that Kerry was kicked off of both Swiftboats he commanded, the second time was the night after he claimed his boat hit a underwater mine and he rescued Rassmussen and got his 3rd Purple Heart. He was yanked off his boat and sat in Vietnam for at least two weeks until his CO's paperwork sending him back to the Mainland came through. His CO's had had it with him, they wanted him gone. Which begs the question, someone so intent on getting his three faked PH's to get out fast, how on earth would they also be involved in a secret mission?

302 huckfunn  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 6:48:59pm

#300 Bubble Girl

I think it has something to do with the duality (or multi-ality) of J-Kerry... the confused thing.

303 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 6:54:39pm

huckfunn

Yes, definitely, the Duality, the clip tied with Vietnam, excellent. I'm still thinking Kerry made up the Cambodia story after he saw Apocalypse Now in 1979.

304 huckfunn  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 7:03:00pm
305 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 7:08:57pm

Huckfunn

Wow, you are good at this. Private Pyle. Played by a very pudgy Vincent D Ofrinio. I remember his character well.

Kerry kept journals, notes, diaries, and remember even bought an 8mm camera. I bet the Christmas in Cambodia Kerrytale didn't show up until 1979.

306 Wuptdo  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 7:14:02pm

Have not had enough time to read the whole thread, so this may be a repeat:

Day by Day - Iraqi Vote

Made my day!

307 huckfunn  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 7:20:11pm

#305 Bubble Girl

Thankyuhverrymcuch... Just havin' a little funn on a Sunday nite and trying to kill a cold with some spirited spirits. The last piece seemed sooo appropriate for the senior Senator from Massobtuses.

Cheers,

huck

308 gymnast  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 7:48:46pm

Whats the problem? If John Kerry, the self confessed war criminal and traitor, says he was running guns to the enemy Kymer Rouge inside Cambodia before he got to Viet Nam it's consistant with his war record. He could prove it by releasing his form 180 or showing the delivery recipt the he got from Pol Pot.

309 Dangerous Dan  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 8:05:41pm

I'm glad I'm not the only one who hadn't heard of this defense angle before. It's pretty bizarre, really, to defend yourself by admitting to gunrunning for some of history's biggest killers.

310 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 8:12:32pm

Huck

No, thank you! Massobtuses... LOL I came down with the cold and sore throat on Friday, and have been dragging around all weekend, stuck in the house feeling like crap... Haven't had a cold since forever... So thanks for the entertainment, and I still want to know if anyone has ever seen that CIA hat?

311 sven10077  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 8:30:42pm

Bubble Girl...

Al-WaPo on the hat...

John Kerry's Magic Hat Tour '05

a "persistent oddness'

10.5 questions for JungleJohn...


Kerry as Kurtz(should be willard but hey)

steyn on the Magic hat


as Howard Dean would say, "YEARRRGHHH!"

Now you have me wanting to SEE the damn thing.

I suspect that Kerry met an operator who recognized the preening little guy was a mark for machismo so they guy gave him a boonie cap for a fifth or something...


for even more fun ask JungleJohn why the "lovely' Thereza should pay a lower marginal rate than my family...

312 huckfunn  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 8:43:18pm

#310 Bubble Girl

Hope you're feeling better. I caught the "slopperin' droops" from someone in the office and have been treating it with Zicam, Coldeez and the occasional dram of vanilla "wodka". I'm feeling somewhat better... maybe I should go into medicine.

313 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 8:45:35pm

Sven

Amazing, just amazing... This guy is nuts! Just nuts... Carrying his briefcase around with him. Thanks for an original hat sighting, and a kooky one at that...

Here was a good quote from the article...

"That's our slogan," quipped his ad man, Jim Margolis. "John Kerry: He's no weenie."


"He doesn't need a consultant to tell him how to dress like an alpha male," said his friend Ivan Schlager. "He is a damn alpha male.

314 Bubble Girl  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 8:48:27pm

Huckfunn

I started on antibiotics on Friday and am feeling better tonight, the first two days were ugh.

315 huckfunn  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 8:56:29pm

#314 Bubble Girl

nite, nite Bubbles... and best to you. Seeya on another thread soon.

huck

316 MickC  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 10:28:47pm

Thank God that moronic douchebag lost the election. I bet he doesn't even know what the Khmer Rouge based their ideology on.

317 britman  Sun, Jan 30, 2005 11:00:00pm

"We delivered weapons to the Khmer Rouge on the coastline of Cambodia.” We went out of Ha Tien, which is right in Vietnam. We went north up into the border."

I had hoped to question that as my intro but was beaten to it by ambisinistral (#35).

Then again, I shouldn't throw stones. My navigational skills are so wobbly I sailed from Liverpool aiming for New York and ended up in Edmonton.

318 Baldy  Mon, Jan 31, 2005 3:44:55am

What a NUTJOB. The Khmer Rouge was one of the vilest groups of "people" ever to walk the Earth. It is the Year Zero still creeps me out. I remember vividly reading about the horrors, and seeing photos of the piles of bones. He really is an idiot. The ONLY rational reason I can see for someone like him to say this is to make the CIA look bad.

319 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jan 31, 2005 4:26:37am
Kerry Ran Weapons to the Khmer Rouge?

Doesn't suprise me. Kerry provided "aid and comfort" to the North Vietnamese.

320 bitsy  Mon, Jan 31, 2005 5:28:03am
MR. RUSSERT: Do you believe this election will be seen by the world community as legitimate?
SEN. KERRY: A kind of legitimacy--

Is that like being kind of pregnant?

321 foreign devil  Mon, Jan 31, 2005 5:36:21am

I said it earlier but I'll say it again...the Communist Khmer Rouge were not active in Cambodia under the name "Khmer Rouge" until much later--1975-1979.

Here's the Wikipedia info on it:

"The Khmer Rouge or Khmers Rouges ("Red Khmers") was the French name, also widely used in the English-speaking world, for the Communist organization which ruled Cambodia from 1975 to 1979. The organization's official names were Communist Party of Cambodia and later the Party of Democratic Kampuchea. The Khmer Rouge is generally remembered for its violent rule in which an estimated 1.5 million people died..."

Once again Kerry is caught with his pants down, lying in his teeth!

322 Studsup  Mon, Jan 31, 2005 5:38:15am

Kerry, Russert, and the entire MSM wanted the elections to fail. They, and their handlers in the DNC, want tyranny to rule in Iraq and did their utmost to derail the election. It is a disgrace.

Ted Kennedy is a blowhard and a traitor. Hey Ted, you are walking quagmire in your own right.

John Kerry, now that Iraq with grassroots popular support took a huge step to democracy, is disappointed that he may not make the hall of fame in our Islamic enemy's museum like he has in Communist Vietnam.

BTW, any of you see that link about Howard Dean declaring his hate, yes hate, for Republicans. Amazing. I always believed that's how the DNC viewed us. Now we know. Thanks for drawing a bright line for us Howard. Now I know who my enemies are, the Democrats putative leader has just declared political war on half the nation. Hillary, a confirmed Statist/Stalinist herself is starting to look moderate just by remaining largely quiet. How scary is that?

323 foreign devil  Mon, Jan 31, 2005 5:44:49am

OT: Sorry but there's no good place for this. It's 10:39 a.m. est., and BBC is showing Jack Straw giving a speech to the British Parliament about the Iraqi election and he's getting a lot of "Hear! Hears!" He says the results of the election in Iraq will be certified by the end of February.

324 surfer dude  Mon, Jan 31, 2005 5:57:19am

"George W. Bush received 62,028,719 votes. John Kerry received 59,028,550 votes."

You got to ask yourself, "How could 59,028,550 people be so stupid?" Maybe they were just uninformed. No...actually, I know some people that voted for Kerry and they are stupid. So, check that, I have to go with stupid for the reason 59,028,550 dolts voted for Kerry. I'm sure that Satan would have gotten a few million less, but, he didn't run this time.

Hey, but give the guy some slack, he is married to Tahhhrezahhh. I think she could make anyone psycho, even battle hardened, seared-in-the-brain John F. Kerry.

Overall, I want to personally apologize to the world for nearly electing John "say-anything-to-get-elected" Kerry as President. Sorry for the close call but ignorance is running wild in some parts of our country. (we call those areas "Blue States")

325 Mjolnir  Mon, Jan 31, 2005 6:28:26am

Actually, the only rouge this loser ever saw was the one he uses to hide the bags under his Herman Munster eyelids.

326 crabtree  Mon, Jan 31, 2005 7:56:47am

"And I have some photographs of that"

Sure. It's part of standard procedure to take a few snapshots while you're engaged in a super-secret mission. Isn't it?

327 Malleus Dei  Fri, Feb 4, 2005 6:30:24pm

"MR. RUSSERT: Would you sign Form 180?

SEN. KERRY: But everything, Tim...

MR. RUSSERT: Would you sign Form 180?

SEN. KERRY: Yes, I will. But everything that we put in it, Tim--everything we put in--I mean, "

Kerry will never, ever sign a Form 180. If he ever does, his dishonorable discharge goes public.

328 Malleus Dei  Fri, Feb 4, 2005 6:35:28pm

Everyone needs to bear in mind that THERE WERE NO KHMER ROUGE IN THE FIELD IN 1968. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Doubt me? Look it up. There are these things called "records."

The only way Kerry could have run guns to the Khmer Rouge was with a time machine. Applying Occam's Razor yields an easy solution: Kerry is simply lying again. The election is long over, but Kerry is still on auto-liar setting, and he can't stop himself.

Kerry is a traitor, a totally despicable liar, and a disgrace to this country. That the Democrats could ever nominate someone as dishonorably anti-American as Kerry is shows that they are no longer a legitimate American political party, but that the party of Harry Truman has been hijacked by the evil that is the Left.

329 Malleus Dei  Fri, Feb 4, 2005 6:37:28pm

"Lurch is a piece of shit and a habitual liar. I doubt even the Massholes will re-elect him and the end of this term."

Of course they will. He represents their values perfectly.

330 Dave Brown  Sat, Feb 5, 2005 7:35:17am

As noted in Charles' reference:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

"In December 1978, after several years of border conflict and a flood of refugees into Vietnam, Vietnamese troops invaded Cambodia, capturing Phnom Penh on January 7, 1979 and deposing the Khmer Rouge regime."

In 1978, the US might have backed the Devil himself if he was under attack by (Communist) Vietnam. The fact is that US did briefly back the Khmer Rouge:

"The U.S. and other western governments, along with China, continued to recognise "Democratic Kampuchea" as the government of Cambodia, in order to signal their disapproval of the Vietnamese occupation of the country, which was backed by the Soviet Union. China launched a punitive invasion of northern Vietnam. The U.S. channelled some support to the Khmer Rouge resistance in western Cambodia via surrogates in Thailand. "

Given our then-recent route in Vietnam, our warming ties with China, and the heating up of our conflicts with the Soviet's... it is understandable (though amoral) that the US would tolerate or even support the Khmer Rouge in the late 1970's.

It is less clear why we'd do so in the late 1960's (as an organization the Khmer Rouge had been around since the 50's), but its possible that some CIA spooks may have wanted to explore links with a number of splinter groups, including the Khmer Rouge.

Now whether Kerry was part of this... who knows?

"Who cares?" is probably a better question to ask, now a quarter century after the fact. We have different enemies now, and it is Kerry's feeble appreciation of that fact that is most critical.

(Of course, one wonders why any pacifist liberal would not be outraged to learn that Kerry was part of a cynical Kissinger-esque plan to support the Khmer Rouge! )


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