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 RetweetA Knife and a Copy of the Quran

Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 10:19:09 am PST

A few days ago I noticed that the usual photographs of Palestinian street celebrations didn’t appear after Friday’s mass murder in Tel Aviv.

Islamic Jihad held their party today in Hebron.

A masked supporter of the Islamic Jihad movement, which claimed responsibility for last Frday’s suicide bomb attack that killed five Israelis in Tel Aviv, holds a knife and a copy of the Quran, Islam’s holy book, during a demonstration in the university of the West Bank town of Hebron Monday Feb. 28, 2005. The rally was the first major expression of support for Friday’s bombing. (AP Photo/Nasser Shiyoukhi)

Members of Islamic Jihad militant group attend a rally in the West Bank city of Hebron, February 28, 2005. REUTERS/Nayef Hashlamoun

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1 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:21:17am

hmm...we might have to do something about Jordan-on-the-Med

2 BIG  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:21:27am

What a nice bunch of people. Let's give them a country.

3 BabbaZee  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:21:37am

ahhh the religion of pieces.

4 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:22:16am
5 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:23:18am

Target-rich environment.

6 scott in east bay  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:23:36am

Wow, they all look like they already wrapped for the grave.

7 meboe  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:23:40am

The kid in the second picture looks to be about 12 years old. Sad.

8 Earl  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:23:48am

A platoon of Army Rangers or Marines, ten minutes, and this pack of loser jihadis would all be in "the Garden" of Paradise.

These photos are just risible. Send these cross-dressing wankers down to our county, and the boys wouldn't let them make it to the first fence bottom.

9 Americain  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:25:33am

ROPMA!

I just love sayin' that!

10 Frank_Mtl  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:26:05am

A tool of murder and unholy quran held in the same hand.

11 manker  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:26:12am

You know this knife could be the trademark of islamic jihad, because in the past two weeks their have been like 4 knife attacks.

12 Obi-Wan  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:26:49am

There is no god named allah.
Mohammed was a pedophile.
Where allah goes, blood flows.

13 Gabba Gabba Hey  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:28:19am

Show your faces you murderous bastards! Brave jihadis? *spit* More like frightened cowards.

14 Grumpy Tory Student  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:29:15am

I can't help but wonder if these guys have this clothing in a special place in the wardrobe for it all...

"Let's see, casual [American] stuff, mosque stuff, my best suit, my Elvis costume, my martyrdom celebration duds..."

15 Jheka  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:29:43am

Somewhat OT:

Speaking of Islamists and the treatment of children ... and women. Bottom line: They just don't love their children as much as they love their "honor" ... if at all.

16 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:30:11am
17 Maine's Michael  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:30:50am

Dead men ululating.

18 Globular Cluster  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:30:59am

Which one is the Grand Wizard?

Target Rich Environment!TM

19 dhimmishelter  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:31:39am

I agree, a daisycutter would be useful here. I am sure there is more than one probable su' bomber in this crowd. Some of these appear to be children, of course the massive in-breeding virtually guarantees that the cognitive and reasoning level of these ninja-clad beasts will likely never exceed an adolescent.

A knife and holy book. Nice juxtaposition. And some call LGF a hate site? Right, I guess posting an actual photograph of the central tenet of the ROpieces is hate. Here's hoping to a quick demise of the ROP,

RIP, ROP

Or better yet, RIH (rot in h-ll)

20 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:33:47am

Every time these bastards gather together in bloodthirsty, hooded mobs, Israel should blast them.

No mercy.

21 FlyingTigress  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:34:05am

16 buzzsawmonkey 2/28/2005 10:30AM PST

Where are the factories which produce the masks, the bomb belts, the big demonstration banners with the slogans and portraits?

Every photo showing these things makes it obvious that these things are standard manufacture. Somewhere or other there is an Acme Bomb Belt, Inc., a "Jihadis 'R' Us" container store, or something of the sort which is churning this crap out in carload lots.



Cafepress.com -- the headbands are available, and shown in a *.jpg right above the thong panties with the embroidered verses.

22 TMF  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:37:06am

Im a big fan of the "seeing is believing" school of thought.

Just a little rejoinder to the DU/LLL "But Islam is a religion of peace!" crowd

23 Joel  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:37:55am

I hope that Israel calls the ceasefire off and sweeps throughout the West Bank killing all of these bastards.

24 Perry  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:39:01am

Why the delay between Friday's attack and today's party?

25 Innismir  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:39:13am

Cautiously Optimistic?

OK, so, splodeydope goes off on Friday. No spontaneous celebrations, no joyous dancing in the streets, no joy at all in mudville^W PA. Now, it's monday, and the group itself has to organize something to 'celebrate' something they've done. Probably generated all the PR as well.

Call me an idiot, but I feel cautiously optimistic about how the PA is handling this. Now, if this continues this way and say... if the PA actually starts fighting against these nutjobs, we might have something to build upon here. Still a looong way to go, but anyways... Yikes...

Of course, in one of our local rags, Israel was being knocked for stalling the peace process by demanding that the PA arrest the idiots causing the mess. Ya know, because they have no right for demanding the arrest of murders the PA is harboring.

*shakes head and signs*

26 Axiom  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:40:14am

According to the Egyptian Foreign Minister, Abul Abdul Gheit, PM Abbas still has not implicated Islamic Jihad in the attack. The PA government wants to dispatch a team of investigators to scan the crime scene for clues.

Gheit met with Abbas today. Gheit made these comments to Wolf Blitzer.

- suicide bomb in Tel Aviv
- proclamaition of resposibility from IJ in damascus
- celebration by IJ in Hebron

And the Palestinian government wants to dispatch investigators to the crime scene?

I don't know how they do it, but the Israelis are something else. There's no way I could continue to hold talks between adults(Israelis) and children(Palestinians).

27 mikeyslaw  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:44:57am

Ah, yes, another overt sign that peace is just around the corner. Just as soon as Israel gives up and moves their country to the middle of the sea. In the meantime, the crazy islamofacists will pull this crap!

28 Vickie  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:46:16am

Ahhh...seems like THIS particular group didn't get or pay attention to the PR Advice given by Arabists at State and CIA. The idea is to NOT Celebrate death of Jews or appear "threatening" to the Western World..but ohhh..I guess it is OK, cause this is just a "minority" of the people in Islam.

Abbas (Holocaust Denier..but never mind THAT) and Mubarak don't think like these "crazy" people..Those NEOCONS..THOSE JEWS..are painting with a "broad brush"...of course its for their own SELFISH SECRETIVE AGENDA. blah blah blah.

See how the Islamists have CHANGED. In a couple of months..woops there you are...a complete turn around to wanting PEACE and accepting Israel.

Riiigghhht.

29 Clio  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:49:22am

Are they not just colorfully illustrating what Bush calls "the good cause of the Palestinian people"?

How can anyone talk about Marines and Daisycutters or any other action that involves the US when official US policy is to give them a state that is contiguous -- Meaning that Israel has to be carved up to do that.

Has he not publically declared how he yearns to be the one to "raise the flag of Free Palestine"?

And what's more, Bush demands that Israel -- or whatever remnants he deigns to leave to Israel -- must insure that his precious Palestine be economically prosperous.

And how unpatriotic of posters to repeatedly ridicule the "ROP" (Religion of Peace) when it was Bush himself who coined the phrase -- with the etymologically misestimated definition that "Islam Means Peace" (it does not).

After all, he only declared a War on Terror -- but three and a half years into the war he still has not defined who is commiting the terror or why.

And he has never admitterd that Saudi Arabia has anything at all to do with it.

Shortly after he first took office, Papa Bush called the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia and assured him that "my son's heart is in the right place". For this once, you can believe him.

Pointing out facts often inspires the resident Busholators to spasms of vulgar invective. That is quite understandable -- They know there are monsters out there in the dark, and they desperately need to believe that Daddy President will chase them away. Anyone who questions that faith must be a heretic to be excoriated. To look straight at the facts is just oo scarey.

30 paxnhymn  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:49:57am

Animals! But it is a waste of life to see a picture like that poor little brainwashed bastard in the black facepaint...he only knows the poison he's been fed! In the end he will probably end up dead because his own people have fed him a constant diet of murder and mayhem. There is a special place in hell for these people!

31 TMF  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:50:41am

Axiom #26

don't know how they do it, but the Israelis are something else. There's no way I could continue to hold talks between adults(Israelis) and children(Palestinians).

Unless you believe this guy I saw on CSPAN this weekend, Clayton Swisher, who wrote a book about Camp David which apparently says Arafat was the committed partner to peace and it was the Israelis who were untrustworthy.

The guy appeared to actually believe his own bullshit.

32 yellowroseoftexas  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:54:19am

And here's more depressing news.All I can say is thank God for Israeli intelligence if it wasn't for them tens of thousands of Israelis might be dead by now. [Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

33 Perry  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:56:10am

25 Innismir

I'm not sure if you were answering my #24, but I think you did. Thanks.

34 Catttt  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 8:59:49am

Palestinian militants denounce Tel Aviv bombing

Mohamed Dandan, leader of Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade in Nablus's Balata refugee camp, said individuals claiming to be linked to Lebanon's Hizbollah organisation had made intensive efforts to contact Palestinian militants to persuade them to break the present ceasefire.

He said a man identifying himself as Qais Obeid, a Lebanon-based Israeli Arab said to be behind the October 2000 Hizbollah kidnapping of an Israeli businessman, had been in touch with West Bank militants.

However, Mr Dandan would not confirm a report that the caller had offered them money to take responsibility for Friday's bombing.

Islamic Jihad Claims Responsibility

The Islamic Jihad on Saturday claimed responsibility for the suicide attack in a statement posted on its official website.

"Al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of the Islamic Jihad in Palestine, declared its responsibility for the heroic martyrdom operation that occurred in Tel Aviv on Friday," said the statement.

Earlier on Saturday, al-Jezeera aired a videotape which showed a man vowing to carry out the attack.

The man, calling himself as Abdullah Badran, vowed to avenge Israel`s killing of Palestinians.

Palestinian officials later said Badran, 21, was a university student from a village near the West Bank town of Tulkarm,

Meanwhile, Abdullah Shibaya, one of the movement`s officials of Tulkarm, said in a video tape that "the attack was carried out in response to killings and destruction of houses" by Israel.

The official also accused the PNA of collaborating with Israel and the United States.

Found someone willing to take the money, maybe? (hmmm)

35 hornet  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:00:32am

Has USA cancelled the $350,000,000 gift yet?

36 Innismir  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:01:36am

#33 Perry

I wasn't trying to, I was just expressing my thoughts on the matter. But it looks like I did.

Well, that's my reasoning anyway, I'm suprised no one's called Shenanigans yet. :)

37 mccleansan  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:01:44am

If you're gonna have enough balls to blow yourself up - at least have enough balls to show your face. These guys are such cowards - they can't show there faces becasue Israel will get them - no balls.

38 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:02:34am
39 Stacy's Mom  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:03:52am

How can any westerners look at this and not see this is the Ku Klux Klan...Middle East Division.

40 zulubaby  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:04:01am
The rally was the first major expression of support for Friday’s bombing.

Freaking lunatics. Looking at them makes me want to throw up. How can the world have sympathy for this evil?

41 zulubaby  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:04:49am

hornet (#35)

Why should they be held responsible for anything? It's never happened before, why start now?

42 BabbaZee  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:05:01am

#17 Maine's Michael
Dead men ululating.

LOL!

43 Joel  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:06:31am

40 Zulubaby

Freaking lunatics. Looking at them makes me want to throw up. How can the world have sympathy for this evil?

Becuase these freaks are doing either consciously or subconsciously - the world's bidding.

44 Joel  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:07:40am

42 BabbaZee

Do these humanoids get their KKK costumes form some red neck here in the States?

45 BabbaZee  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:08:13am

#40 zulubaby
It's worse than sympathy. It's collusion.

46 zulubaby  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:08:14am

Joel, yes. Just disgusting.

47 BabbaZee  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:10:22am

#44 Joel

Hater Sheets-R-Us?

48 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:12:39am
49 Psychobarb  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:13:28am

#15:

Your quote reminds me of one from, I think it was, Golda Meir:

"There will be peace in the Middle East when Arabs learn to love their children more than they hate Jews [Israelis]."

Spot on!

50 pookleblinky  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:14:30am

Speaking of the glorification of death, check out the latest example of venerable German artistic traditions.

51 selpaw  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:15:09am

Yah, well the powers that be would like everyone to sanitize the assumption that the piguah was about Syria. What it is about is the fact that the PA/PLO craddled Islamic Jihad, Hizbollah and Hamas into glory. They were the incubators to some of the worst terrorists on the planet. Which is why there should be no talk of a state or anything else until Abbas gets rid of them all. Once again like Oslo the cart is being put in front of the horse. Try as they may the palestinian people can not be sanitized and legitimized no matter what.


The pictures are proof that an election does not make for democracy. Not even the very FIRST BABY STEPS which lead to democracy. And most definitely nor do empty words. All empty words contain is bare rhetoric without bite. It is like reading from a script without passion.

Democracy is something one craves from the very depths of their soul... toils for and fights light hell to obtain. It can not be given or disguised. The only way for true democracy to work is where it is EARNED.

Those photos are a most graphic display of people who want none of the above and furthermore are not interested in taking the ever important steps needed to pave the way for democracy.

To me this is the culmination of what happens to people who have been rewarded without earning it let alone deserving of it.

52 hornet  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:15:10am

#32 yellowroesoftexas... Israel will only retaliate when, uh, when, uh, they get angry. PA is trying to kill Israelis every minute of every day. Without retaliation, (dresden style), Israel is commiting suicide slowly. How many more bombings? How many more dead Islraelis? What will it take? Halaucost 2 is in progress in slow motion, and the whole world will not lift a hand to help Israel. Disgusting. Demonic.

53 yellowroseoftexas  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:15:34am

40# I know exactly what you mean Zulubaby.I can't begin to comprehend how anyone with a heart or a conscience could actually feel sympathy for people who hold big street parties to celebrate the premeditated,coldbloody murder of children.And yet incredibly most of the so called civilized world actually sympathizes with these wicked people.

54 TMF  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:19:08am

#48 rayra

Hasbro? Mattel?

55 transient  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:23:38am

#49 Psychobarb

Or: There will be peace in the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they love their olive trees.

A kid blows up-- pass out candy.
An olive tree comes down-- it's a f*ckin' war crime.

56 Joel  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:25:42am

46 Zulubaby

Next month will be the third anniversary of the bloody month of March 2002 when Israel was reeling from day after day another terror attack. Recall how the world's
press enjoyed it with the attitude that the Jews are finally getting it back and have come up against a force taht they cannot stop. I have never forgotten that bloody month and I will always remember the unrestrained glee that so many people here and in Europe had when Jews were being slaugtered by the cruelest killers since the Einsatzgruppen. During that month it dawned on me that Hamas, IJ, etc. were doing the world's will.

47 BabbaZee

I suppose they mean to terrorize us with those bedsheets but hey look ridiculous and pathetic. A short burst from an Uzi would redden those white sheets fast enough.

57 biff  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:28:25am

This is brilliant PR by Islamic Jihad. It satisfies the need of its members and supporters to celebrate their victory over the Zionist occupiers, and it is distanced enough in time from the actual event (60 hours?) that the MSM will never link the two events, i.e., the local celebration is not newsworthy.

spit

58 dhimmishelter  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:29:35am

Actually doesn't each copy of the Koran come with a knife as part of the package? Perhaps a beautifully embossed sheath in the dust jacket so the "reader" can act on the mind-numbing directives and philosophy contained therein.

Of course one should be able to opt for the larger edition; large enough for a su' belt, some C4, nails, ball bearings, and maps of Israel showing locations where large group of children, teenagers, and the elderly gather. You know schools, universities, nightclubs, restaurants at Passover where the preferred targets of the ROP congregate.

There should be a big market for this great two-fer. Since their economy can't produce anything of value, this might be the start of a new wave of publishing and merchandising. Perhaps stock the shelves at the local Al-Mart.

59 EE  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:30:19am

Islamic Jihad car bomb discovered by Israel.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

According to the road map that the Pali Authority signed on to, the Pali Authority agreed to the "dismantlement of terrorist capabilities and infrastructure". First and foremost, that means the dismantlement of Islamic Jihad. This is the Damascus-based terror organization funded by Iran and provided logistical support by Syria.

Now Abbas and the national-minded Palis have to make a choice: take real steps to dismantle the capabilities and infrastructure of Islamic Jihad and with it keep on the path to a Pali state, or refuse to do this and enter the path toward ruin and destruction.

Because if Abbas and the Pali Authority do not take real steps against Islamic Jihad, Israel has the right and the duty to defend its population against the terror threat emanating from Islamic Jihad. To put it bluntly, this includes the right and the duty to hunt down and kill the leadership of Islamic Jihad in order to decapitate the threat, and to hunt down and kill the human cannon-fodder terrorists of Islamic Jihad that implement the terrorism, as well as those giving it logistical and other support. So Abbas needs to warn the Pali population of what the choice is, and what is in store if he fails to act.

What needs to be done is the dismantlement of the capabilities and the infrastructure of Islamic Jihad. The only choice is whether Abbas and the Palis take real steps toward doing this, or else Israel has the right and the duty to do this.

60 biff  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:34:47am

Of course, if the Israelis would have fired a few rockets into the event, it would have been a wedding. And I guess the Reuters photographer, would then have been a dead palestinian wedding photographer.

61 Occasional Reader  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:35:00am

Apparently the IJ boys have forgotten the old axiom: Don't bring a knife to a JDAM-fight.

62 Keelie  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:35:55am

#29 - Clio

These are interesting points.. .

I'm surprised nobody here has commented on them (unless I missed something).

Perhaps you're right; we WANT Bush to be the good guy we believe he is. I - like the rest of this group - believe he's doing the right thing, but as you say, there are dreadful inconsistencies in what he has done and said.

We need a guy like Mark Steyn to be up there telling it like it is.

63 foreign devil  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:38:19am

We've got to toughen up in our approach to targetting groups of these terrorist fighters when they gather together. It's a 'target rich' opportunity and in this world war, we should be taking advantage of it.

These people are the same as Hezbollah and Hamas. No different, just different costumes. They are all fascist para-military terrorists and as such should be eradicated. No jailing for a few years and then release. Exterminate this evil!

64 alegrias  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:40:19am

Thank you Charles for posting this ugly stuff just when we're getting ready to celebrate the outbreak of democracy in the ME. The skunks still run the place & teach their children well.

65 yellowroseoftexas  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:40:40am

I don't know how to post pictures on here,but in one particular picture one of the Islamofacist terrorists had a bloody picture of Ariel Sharon with a gun pointed in his mouth.That one was particularly repellant to me.I think it is disgusting these demonic creatures are allowed to brazenly flaunt their evil right in front of the whole world and the insane Israeli government just sits back and does absolutely nothing,so much for the cry of "never again".Anyone who sympathizes with these people sympathizes with pure evil and another Holocaust against the Jewish people.

66 alegrias  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:44:47am

So when will Hollywood use evil muslim stereotypes again? Calling Mike El Moor, here's opportunity for a really disgusting documentary.

67 Fatal  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:46:00am

Bush was just so much better than the alternative that he looks positively saintly in comparison.

I still disagree with many of his policies and positions (on immigration, border secuirty, the U.N., a Palestinian state, Saudi Arabia, etc). But, when you consider judicial appointees, terror policies, etc, I just don't believe it would be in our country's best interest to fracture the President's support by backing an unelectable third party candidate who might be more in keeping with my positions.

We need to continue to work with the best we have and shine the light on the errors of some of these policies. Who knows, maybe he will wake up to some of these pressing dangers - stranger things have happened.

68 yellowroseoftexas  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:46:53am

52# Hornet I think at some point the Palestinian terrorists are going to get some kind of bioligical weapon and use it against the Israeli population,and their will be mass casulaties.When that happens the Israelis will finally do what should have been done years ago deport all the Palestinian terrorists from their country.

69 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:48:29am

#47 BabbaZee ,

They get them from David dukes haberdashery, sheets and masks in a variety of colors, your slogan embroidered free with $100 purchase.

70 hornet  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:49:32am

Prime Minister Sharon emphasized that he is determined to move the diplomatic process forward and to implement the Disengagement Plan. He also made it clear that Israel will not compromise on the issue of the security of its citizens.

[Link: www.imra.org.il...]

We are waiting for some concrete action against the terrorists. Don't hold your breath.

71 BabbaZee  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:56:20am

#69 'Nam Grunt
LOL!

72 hornet  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:56:57am

#68...yellowrose... "should have been done years ago deport all the Palestinian terrorists from their country"

Hey, it is NOT/NOT their country, it is AOIL (arab occupied Israel). Deport them all to Jorden. Israel's reply? Run away.

73 hornet  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 9:58:31am

# 72..correction AOIL = arab occupied Israeli land.

74 1 US Sheeple  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:00:19am

#2 Clio

Yes, I too must agree with you. I am not privy to inside information about the Bush ME policy, however, it is inconsistent regarding the PLO, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.

It seems to me that Bush is taking half way measures to the war on terror. Letting the madrasas dissemenate their hateful Islamic propaganda in this country, calling Islam the "Religion of Peace" aka ROP, no profiling allowed at airports, etc.

However, the capitulation that could have lasting consequences is the one that allowed the Supreme Court to give legal rights to terrorists and the fear of being accused of torture in interrogating terrorist captives.

Politically, perhaps there is nothing that Bush could do, but it seems to me, for what it is worth, that he could have at least spoken out about the consequences of the Supreme Court legal ruling and defended the interrogation techniques employed by the military and the CIA.

Perhaps I am expecting too much, but in view of the possibility of further attacks in the US (which we are told are inevitable) it seems that, again, the US is waging a half hearted war on terror.

75 Ojoe  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:00:46am

These are the enemies of civilization. Wipe them out or enter a dark age of undetermined duration. I don't know how to put it any more clearly.

76 selpaw  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:01:44am

re 51...the pictures coming out of Lebanon today is what **TRUE democracy** in the making is all about.


Like I said one little election does not make even the first tiny baby steps toward democracy when it comes to the palestinians. Nor does handing a phony democracy over on a silver platter to people who don't want it or deserve it in the first place. Anyway, shams eventually are proven just that.

77 yellowroseoftexas  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:02:00am

72# I agree.

78 zulubaby  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:03:24am

This looks very cool.

Leadership Mission To Israel

79 MoonbatBane  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:05:05am

#2 BIG 2/28/2005 10:21AM PST

What a nice bunch of people. Let's give them a country.

Actually, if you really think about it, that's not a bad idea. First, it gives them something to lose, which is something they don't have now. Second, the US can declare war on and pretty much anihilate a country if it steps too far out of line. We seem to have more trouble doing that to "movements" and "bunches of people" who commit terrorism and other attrocities.

80 BabbaZee  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:08:55am

#79 MoonbatBane

This has long been exactly my position on it.
They then loose their precious propagand refugee status and are subject to the responsibility of running a state that WAR can be declared on.

81 Laurence Simon  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:11:24am

I wonder if these celebrations were held today or if the photographs took until today to make it to the open wires.

I'd asked JPost's Khaled Abu Toameh in a Q&A if there's any difference how the palestinian press covers the PA. Perhaps I should have asked if the photographers' union and the stringers were still censoring themselves in "the palestinian national interests" to avoid photos of gun-toting children and celebrations of suicide attacks.

82 Vickie  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:12:51am

Contiguous Palistine...thats the NEW ONE...thats the Code For:...What COULD it be?

There never were and are no Palestinian People separate from indigenous Arab Population. No Separate Pal History until very recently..agreed on by ISLAMISTS, only as a TACTIC to get a bigger foothold inside of Israel. There is no Proof in the Ground that there was a separate Pal CULTURE..No Proof in the DNA...No separate Language..no separate ART...(someone told me Pals claim some sort of Needlework that is only their own...) and YET...the US is establishing a FULL and LEGAL and FULLY ARMED Palestinian SECOND State, the first and possibly the only Pal State is JORDAN...IF you can call THAT any kind of Legal State and not a British made up foothold semi Pro Western State in the ME.

We are on our own in the end it seems...And we always knew it.

Broken Promises and Assurances.

Arabists in the US WON...and everyone in the world is taking NOTES on how it was done. That includes Mexico, China..and RUSSIA.

83 selpaw  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:14:17am
Two Israelis seriously injured in shooting attack Monday night on road near Menorah east of Modiin-Jerusalem highway
84 transient  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:16:09am

#78 zb

That does look good. The accomodations are outstanding, I'll say that. I have done a security related mission. But now I am thinking more along the lines of a kick-@$$ military trip.

85 transient  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:17:56am

#79, 80 Babba Zee

If you give them a state they can arm themselves to the teeth with real weapons, not just the smuggled variety, and it becomes even more costly when you decide to take it down.

86 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:18:10am
87 zulubaby  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:23:55am

Italian students try to stop Israeli envoy's speech

ROME - About 20 students tried to stop Israel's ambassador to Italy from delivering a speech at the University of Florence by chanting anti-Israel slogans and demanding that the envoy leave.

Ehud Gol was about to start speaking on the theme of "Peace Prospects in the Middle East" at the university's law faculty Tuesday when political science students belonging to a leftist political union began verbally attacking the ambassador, according to the Israeli Embassy.

Police cleared the hall of the protesters, who had raised a banner reading "Life, Land and Liberty for the Palestinian People." Gol later spoke for 30 minutes.

"I heard the hatred of these young people with regard to the nation I represent. A total and ignorant hatred," Gol was quoted as saying by the newspaper Corriere della Sera.

Paris police say Holocaust memorial fire was arson

Firefighters on Sunday extinguished a blaze that charred a wooden rail car at the memorial in Drancy, the site of a World War II transit camp used to deport thousands of Jews to Auschwitz.

A handwritten note found at the site referred to the little-known "Islamic group for Palestine" and carried the name "Bin Laden" on it next to a swastika.

In another incident Monday, swastikas and other Nazi references were discovered scrawled on the walls of the Grand Mosque of Paris, the best-known Muslim religious site in France.

"We have witnessed several demonstrations today that are anti-Semitic and racist," French Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin told reporters during a visit to eastern France. He said the attacks were "completely unspeakable, completely ignominious."

The attack by unknown assailants, discovered Monday, came as officials have stepped up security around Jewish and Muslim sites in France amid an increase in such attacks.

"This intolerable act of Islamophobia is a worrying symptom in the capital," Dalil Boubakeur, director of the Paris mosque, said in a statement.

Hmmm.

88 piglet  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:24:28am

I've said it before, drop a c-131 full of bowling ball sized and shaped pieces of ice on these death parades.

89 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:24:32am

It's like KKK - Arab Style.

90 zulubaby  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:25:33am
Military Intelligence: Israel has proof that the order for Friday`s suicide bombing in Tel Aviv came from Syria
91 manker  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:26:23am

#85 transient,

Actually quite the opposite, the arabs have never been good at conventional fighting. So if they tried to go to war they would lose. And if they did start a conventional war to destroy Israel, the IDF would start pull out the D9's and start demolishing houses left and right, so they couldn't pull that urban combat shtick

92 BabbaZee  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:32:37am

#85 transient
Hmm. I'll take that thought under advisement...

93 redstateredneck  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:34:46am

#89 Free Speech...

It's like KKK - Arab Style.


That was my thought exactly when I looked at those pictures. If they're so f*cking brave, why the hoods?

94 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:40:10am

FLASH: obl communication with zarquawi, intercepted by US Intel. telling zarc. to concentrate attacks inside the US instead of American Military in Iraq.

95 transferthem  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:43:05am

This is why I believe in transfer of all arabs to Jordan. The uniforms may have changed since 1930s germany, but the nazism has not.

96 tigger2005  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:44:14am

# 63

They are following the rules of war ... they are in uniform ... thus they are legitimate targets. Beats me why Israel doesn't send in snipers to take out at least the dudes wearing the bedsheets.

97 manker  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:45:51am
#95 transferthem 2/28/2005 12:43PM PST

This is why I believe in transfer of all arabs to Jordan. The uniforms may have changed since 1930s germany, but the nazism has not.

Ain't that the truth

98 TMF  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:46:04am

#94 nam grunt

I guess they were cutting us some slack until now?

Damn these punks are getting pathetic.

Its like a bad rewrite of the boy who cried wolf.

We're gonna attack you soon. Now we're really gonna attack you soon. Now we're reallly really really gonna attack you soon.

Another sign of their growing weakness and irrelevance, thanks to W.

99 hornet  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:46:40am

"Sharon is competent", by Charles Krauthammer...

[Link: jewishworldreview.com...]

100 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:50:21am

#98 TMF,

Exactly, they are really squirming, almost like they don't know what to do now, because we aren't leaving and we are still killing them as fast as we can. I believe they are on the brink of demoralization.

101 Catttt  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:51:06am

Re the kid's pistol - seriously hope it is a toy - his finger is on the trigger.

102 alegrias  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:51:53am

#67 Fatal
#74 Sheeple

Thanks for supporting Bush and giving him credit for trying. When you consider most of the planet and half the country defends islamofascism and tried to replace Bush with communism & Syria's best friend, John Kerry, the alternative would have been much worse--including four more years of Arafat & Al Assad sleepovers at the White House with Barbra Streisand in tow.

Bush is pushing against a lot of negative drag to accomplish any of his goals anywhere.

103 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 10:57:40am

These boyos remind me of the Ku Klux Klan.

Ungood.

104 Carolyn  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:03:38am

No kidding, get this

[Link: stores.ebay.com...]

105 Catttt  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:07:03am

Lebanese Protestor - I like this picture, wanted to share it. From BBC.

106 Ashley Pomeroy  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:07:43am

And just out of curiosity, what is the kid holding in the second picture? A water pistol? There's no front sight or magazine.

107 Carolyn  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:11:40am

And another link, [Link: sisternadeerah.tripod.com...]

108 paxnhymn  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:25:06am

104 carolyn

That titles gotta be a joke! Look at the stuff...it's empty perfume bottles for essences. Arab countries like to bootleg popular fragrances in oils and essences and sell them for reconstitution with alcohol. You didn't think they would actually do legitimate business with an infidels trademarked products, do you?

109 1 US Sheeple  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:34:59am

#102 alegris

Thanks for your post. I am disappointed that Bush does not use the "bully pulpit" (ala T Roosevelt) to take on the dimocrats as well as get more public support behind him.

You maybe right that it would not do any good, however, I know that 50% of the country would be behind him.

110 Carolyn  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:38:46am

paxnhymn, It certainly gets attention to her site.

111 Opine6  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:44:53am

What brave men! Hide behind masks, attack by stealth and kill innocents, and treat your women like crap. Now that's my kinda religion.

Uncover your faces boys, and tell me exactly what it is about your religion that I should embrace, and why.

112 paxnhymn  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:45:36am

110 Carolyn
yes..it does...and who actually knows if the vials are full of bootleg perfume...or...chem/bio!

113 RC neo-Jew  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:47:50am

#87 zulubaby

Italian students try to stop Israeli envoy's speech

Did you hear what happened in England when a similar bunch of monkeys tried that here? From Melanie Phillips -

A positive and heartening development in these difficult times.

Scroll down to "24 February, A candle for freedom".

Before you do that, though, you might like a look at her latest item about the evil BBC, currently at the top of the page.

114 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:48:26am
115 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 11:53:08am
116 Vickie  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 12:06:02pm

#104--This person has crappy FEEDBACK and he is charging 8.95 Shipping for a light thin article that is starting at 15.00something. What a crook.

117 Vickie  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 12:07:24pm

#112: I didnt like all those "Perfume" Viles either. Can use em for anything...

118 1 US Sheeple  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 12:19:19pm

#114 Rayra

I play poker a couple of times a week and we have a number of loud mouthed, profane using, know nothings who attempt to run over the game.

I do not fold to them nor would I to you.

When I see your name as the one in charge of this site, then I will no longer bother with posting here.

I see a lot of posts that I do not agree with, however, I am not prone to attack them. It is their opinon and they are entitled to it, no matter how misguided it maybe.

Just like the LLL you cannot entertain any point of view other than your own.

My advice, get over it, I for one do not hold a grudge

119 fiery celt  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 12:20:21pm

I came across this email from Rabbi Chaim Richman of the The Temple Institute and thought that you all should read this.

It is a very long missive, so I'll only post the first part of it...
If any Lazardoids what this letter in its entirety, then contact me directly or email the Temple Institute.
[Link: www.templeinstitute.org...]

It is worthy reading---

The Enemy Within

February 27, 2005

18 Adar 1 5765

This past Sabbath the weekly Torah reading (Ex. 30:11-34:35) includes the infamous episode of the Golden Calf. Only 40 days after the giving of the Torah at the Sinai Revelation, while yet at the foot of the mountain, Israel prostrated themselves before the Golden Calf. Our sages emphasize that this sin was so grievous, even today we continue to reverberate from its consequences. But Israel's blunder, however severe, was the result of the influence of the mixed multitude of many nationalities among them, who accompanied them out of Egypt (Ex. 12:3 . This group was to be the cause of many disasters, rebellion and backsliding for the people of Israel throughout history, continuing until the present day. It was this rabble who incited the Jewish people to worship the Golden Calf. It was they who complained and "began to have strong cravings" and caused the people of Israel to weep at the place called Taberah (Num. 11), going so far as to say that they preferred Egyptian slavery to the Presence of G-d. Our sages teach that this destructive foreign element is still in our midst, causing dissention, internal strife and incitement to rebellion against G-d within the healthy body of Israel, plotting her destruction. Indeed, tradition teaches that even today, this evil "fifth column" seeks to usurp Israel.

If the unilateral disengagement plan of Ariel Sharon's government comes to pass as planned, everyday life and for that matter, the world as they know it, will cease to exist for the Jewish citizens of Gaza and Northern Samaria. These are the righteous and heroic pioneers who have dedicated themselves to settle the Biblical Land of Israel. Some 8,500 souls, three generations of "settlers" (a term used as a pejorative by the media – as if the now rare qualities of self-sacrifice, dedication and altruism should somehow be a cause for shame) – are slated for forced expulsion from their homes and communities. Their homes, farms, businesses and factories will be destroyed. Unless, of course, an even more sinister proposal recently reported to be under consideration is adopted: the government may decide to sell the victims' property to a wealthy Arab Gulf State investor - after all - why destroy what does not belong to you when you can sell it, instead, and thus turn a tidy profit, bringing to mind the verse "… thus says G-d: Will you murder and also inherit? In the place where the dogs licked up the blood of Naboth, the dogs will lick up your blood as well." (I Kings 21:19). Their synagogues and holy study halls will be razed; their dead… dug out of the ground and transferred. Or perhaps, simply left behind. And their property? Abandoned to the Palestinians.

This is a time of reckoning. A spiritual battle is being waged between the forces of the Mixed Multitude, and those representing the truly pure, holy, indefatigable spirit of the real Israel, G-d's firstborn, those faithful to His Torah. It is not only the world of the Gaza and Samarian settlers which is poised at the precipice. It is everything that Israel has always stood for and held sacred, most notably, the safety, welfare and continuity of the Jewish people. All of Israel is on the chopping block. With calculated and lethal blows, the government of Ariel Sharon is hammering away at the beautiful and pristine edifice that was heretofore the State of Israel, and erecting in its place something bizarre and foreign, something forged… a changeling decidedly not Jewish…a pagan idol born from the filth of the Mixed Multitude,...

.

120 Joshua Godinez  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 12:57:27pm

#39, #103

I was struck by the same thought. "Hey when did the Klu Klux Klan go from pointy hats to roundy ones"?

121 Stuck-in-CA  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 1:22:18pm

every day is Halloween in Palestine replete with fun KKK-looking costumes.

122 Paul  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 1:32:45pm

No wonder they're poor, they spend all the time and money making KKK-style costumes and then parading through the neighborhood braying for blood.

123 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 2:15:08pm
124 Adirondackgirl  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 2:21:33pm

Are those sticks they are carrying in the second picture?

125 Catttt  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 2:25:35pm

116 Vickie

Thank you for posting that - it jogged my memory that I need to leave positive feedback - just received my Countess Dracula, Twins of Evil, and Vampire Circus DVD set. :)

126 freestar  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 2:48:03pm

#116 , #104, #125

LOL.

So Jihad is her second name? Damn. Imagine calling the register at school... Jones? Yes. Smith? Yes. Jihad. Yes...

127 rtheyserius  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 3:22:06pm

Jeez, that's one helluva "party" knife.

Can I hold it?

128 Totally Berserk  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 4:20:56pm

And look! They have to wear masks or Abbas would have to arrest them.

Pardon my skepticism here, but...

129 big L  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 4:49:42pm

OT- that son of a beayach Brian Williams said describing the blast in Iraq that killed the policemen candidates...
"..And that is the most serious attack since Bush declared "mission accomplished' on the carrrier..."

that Brian williams is a phony as*hole, phony phony,phony.
X 3 X33 X333. He is a fool. and a liar.

/rant off.

p.s. I wish he'd be dropped into thet IJ or Hisb'llah demo and see how he does.Eff'er.

130 RonG  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 5:09:28pm

When I saw that knife the first thought that crossed my mind was the scene in All Quiet on the Western Front where Ernest Borgnine knocks the knife out of the private's hand and tells him that if he's ever caught with a notched knife he'll be shot out of hand.

131 EE  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 5:25:05pm

The Quran and a knife. This is Islamic Jihad, the jihaditerrorist group. Does it look familiar? That's because it's like the flag of the Saudi-Wahhabi kingdom ( the Shahada in Arabic, and under it a saber for conducting Islamic jihad -- and also useful for the Wahhabi art of slicing off people's heads). Check the Saudi flag.
[Link: www.cia.gov...]

132 EE  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 5:32:36pm

Re #131, the Saudi flag with its Shahada and saber emphasizes that Wahhabi Islam is the Religion of Peace, because you can't get to any more peaceful place than the grave. Or maybe it's a death cult.

133 Rufus Lee King  Mon, Feb 28, 2005 6:14:59pm

Murder plans and the Koran?

Why are you wasting my time with such redundancies?

134 Vickie  Tue, Mar 1, 2005 5:25:27am

Cattt: My Computer connection is on and off...so long as it is on Ill post.

I forgot now who among us are on Ebay. Maybe we could go to the Cafe and talk. Dont want to do biz here..but I did wonder what was going on and had to talk about Ebay letting the sale of "conterfeit" Art go forth. With Churchill they dont CARE if it is bogus? or REPLICA Art?

They pulled down a Legit Software Product I bought at Office Depo and wanted to sell. They never explained why..And at the same time there were the SAME Software up there selling..using the same stock photo. I couldnt get a straight answer out of them. To fix it..would have taken half my life..so I just didnt bother and never listed it again. Didnt dare.

135 Parpar  Tue, Mar 1, 2005 9:23:21am

#84 transient

Ah, like the "Israeli Army Fantasy Camp" ("Israel Challenge Experience") advertised in the "Jerusalem Post Online"? Yeah, that looks really kick-ass. But you've gotta bring your own combat boots. (It costs $3,600 for a week of intensive and realistic training...moolah I don't have, alas.) And I don't know if they accept women. Especially Deafies.

136 mph  Tue, Mar 1, 2005 1:05:29pm

Looks like a 1930's KKK march on Washington..

137 JG27_AD  Tue, Mar 1, 2005 2:04:48pm

Looks like a knife and a handy container of "All Month Toilet Wipes".

AD

138 Zack  Tue, Mar 1, 2005 7:36:57pm

#136 mph

Looks like a 1930's KKK march on Washington..

Or a Paris fashion show circa 2020.


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