Shutting things down, silencing their opposition, trying to make it where people only hear one side of things - it's pretty much all they can do.

Why does this seem to be universal behavior of the LLL? The left here does the same thing...

I don't think a Drum is the only thing Kevin's been beating.

The man is an idiot, and while he should be watched in case he goes over the edge into actual violence, he really isn't worth the time and effort.

LLL's do not like lowering their self-esteem by finding fault in themselves. Hence, blame others is their standard MO.

Oh Grand High Exaulted Mystic Lizardo! Your mythological properties grow ever more tentacular with each passing day!
Karl will be pissed!

Nice work. This is why the left is so marginalized, and can’t win at anything.

bingo!

Hey lefties - we are only trying to help you. Get a clue, learn how to decipher fact from fiction, stop whining, or forget about winning anything for decades to come.

Seriously.

What a loser and other applicable five letter words.

Typical LLL mindset,make ridiculous charges then make the accused prove they are innocent.

Mr. Drum,ever heard of the "fallacy of the false burden"?
Make your charges and show evidence to back it up or STFU.

Bwahahahaha! This guy has been watching entirely to many three stooges movies. Good come back Charles, if you were a woman I would love you!

Nah, Charles... they win at EVERYTHING because their reality and truth are relative. If they SAY they won, then by golly, they WON.

of course, the rest of us sit here laughing at them, like we laughed at the Emperor's New Clothes.

#1 legalpad

Don't forget the infallible logic of Gastronomic Ballistic Arts.

WooHoo! First post on LGF. Thanks for reopening registration Charles.

With regard to the topic, the LLL I have been exposed to just blow my mind. I work in a law firm in L.A. around mostly moderate to conservative people. We mostly keep our opinions to ourselves, but we can pick an LLL at 100 yards because they just can't help but express their "opinions". Actually had an associate proclaim without any prompting at a Friday firm lunch during the heat of the presidential race that the vast right wing conspiracy® aided by conservative talk radio was responsible for Kerry's troubles, but that Air America would "set things straight". I just couldn't stop laughing, much to this LLL's chagrin, then finally told him in front of everyone he was full of it. He wasn't with the firm much longer.

We really do need to stand up to these idiots, wherever they roam.

This is why the left is so marginalized, and can’t win at anything.

Yeah, that and most of them are no-load, puss-nutted, pencil-necked geeks.

How are ya'll doin' this Sunday? I hardly post any more, and I must say, I've been missing you lizards.

Unlike LGF, Washington Monthly is a blog without username registration, and anyone can use any name at any time. Are they playing Musical Chairs there in other threads too?

I posted there, but after a while I found the level of retardation annoying, even after amusing myself with "Caine Mutiny" references. So I finally lost interest.

I suspect one person posts crap there under about six different names.

OT:

A good article on the hypocracy of Europe and the bs distinction the Euro's attempt to do with anti-zionism and semitism

13 Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator

Welcome to LGF - the check from the ZOG will be along shortly:-)

Q-36? Are you sure it wasn't Q-32?

I have contacted Kevin Drum, as I always do (literally scores of times) when my stalker posts on a blog, asking him to remove the stalker posts and giving him some background on the stalker. The vast majority of bloggers, from across the political spectrum remove that crap the moment that they are made aware of it. Kevin has not. Here is what I wrote to him:

Kevin:

I have noticed that my stalker, who has been
obsessively posting as me and about me all over the
net for going on two years, has posted on your blog
here:

[Link: www.washingtonmonthly.com...]

and here:

[Link: www.washingtonmonthly.com...]

The person also writes under some other nicks on the
same thread (e.g. "lizard hunter")

Here is a little background on my stalker:

[Link: dailyblitz.motime.com...]

Note that that was in August of last year. It's only
picked up steam since. It has posted on a widely read
weblog that my father died. It posted (as it did on
your blog) that I stalked and harrassed women (a
complete lie). It has defrauded dozens of companies
and organizations by signing me up to but their
products and has repeatedly posted my personal
information on various websites.

Please delete its comments and any future comments
that it makes as me or about me.

Thank you in advance.

-Jheka

This was sent on Friday night. Thirty-six hours later, Mr. Drum has neither acknowledged the e-mail or removed the comments. Classy stuff.

#19

Absolutely. Check the Marvin Martian website.

Even finding out that the memo was written by a republican staffer, the only person that Martinez said it was distributed to was a Democrat. Then Allen ended up with it, and claimed it was widely distributed by GOP leadership.

So the story was only 95% fabricated instead of 100%, and they think that they have somehow caught the smoke from a gun. I do hope that I never get to be that deliriously euphoric over being so mistaken.

Jheka-

I don't know much about the California bar, but safe to assume someone can't refer you to the bar (as was threatened on the WashMo blog) for your political beliefs?

This is why the left is so marginalized, and can’t win at anything.
***

I'd make one correction to this statement. The LUNATIC left is very successful at being LOSERS.

#23 Ed:

There's no danger of that.

Instapundit has apparently been recently subjected to identity theft in blog comments as well.

Charles,

why don't you announce Blogosphere-wide that you will only use encryption when posting, and then do it?

All the best,

LizardAbroad

Moonbats. Sigh.

Nice work. This is why the left is so marginalized, and can’t win at anything.

Way to beat that Drum, Charles.

{Ba-dap-bum}

#20 Jheka - my sympathies (as you already know) but I'm a bit confused (ok, a little bit more confused than I normally am).
Charles quotes Drum as saying "... so I am shutting down this thread."
I refuse to go to that thread, but I interpreted that to mean he closed the thread (so people can no longer read the vile and viscious lies posted thereon). Am I wrong about this?

OT,

If you haven't yet read this posting on Iraq The Model, do so.

#28 Malleus Dei ,

*sigh* again, and I might add [spit]!

Regarding the Lefties...

It really funny watching them write (right).

#5 ördög Johnson - LLL's do not like lowering their self-esteem
***

The major problem with the "self-esteem" of the LLL has is that like most of their lives, it's an ILLUSION; and a pitiful ILLUSION at best.

When the Stalinists or the Nazis take over, the LLL's are the people who do their dirty work. Scary, isn't it?

OT
#29 RIP Ford
#32 'Nam Grunt
- 'Nam Grunt said on a post on a recent thread that he's a big fan of the Texas Rangers ('Nam Grunt, that was you, right?). I thought if you had the time, you might post or e-mail Nam Grunt with some of the stuff you e-mailed me on the Rangers (especially your name sake)? I'd do it, but when switching to my new computer, I lost a lot of stuff (e.g., the battle at Adobe
Wells, the RIP Ford Texas Ranger, etc.)

#13 Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator
Welcome aboard!

Kevin Drum = Putz - O - Rama

#37 realwest

Glad to be here. Figured I'd add some firepower to Charles' arsenal.

#30 realwest:

No, it just means he's not allowing further posting.

OT

Cap eroding on Palo Pinto/Parker County line?

realwest,

It would be my honor. Thanks.

---
Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulato,

Welcome to the fray.

They are still posting there so apparently Drum is even more full of shit than previously imagined.
Also, I want my colors!
(see one thread up)

Gotta fly, I'm late for a geriatric BD bash! WOO HOO!

He's allowed several more comments from stalkers.

Nothing guys like Drum love more than hearing the sound of their own voice. No doubt the little sh*t got plenty of hate mail from posters wondering why their fun was suddenly ended and no doubt accusing him of being a right-wing shill for ending their fun.

If LGF ever descends to that level, I'll start looking for the four horsemen to show up.

#40 Jheka - Now I'm no longer confused; Drum's letting that thread STAY UP, but not allowing anyone who cares to make a comment do so. What a tool.

#44 Charles - do you mean to tell us that he's now SELECTIVELY allowing comments? If it weren't so unethical, and if it didn't mean I'd have to go to his site, I'd be inclined to post there by namejacking the stalker and REALLY fire them up!

The "postings by Charles" @ WM will probably become a mantra with the left side of the blogosphere. Despite evidence to the contrary, the left keeps repeating the same lies over and over. 100,000 dead in Iraq, the memo's in Rathergate may have been frauds but the story was still true, Bush stole the election, we support the military, blah blah blah...

Notice that I caught the dry line in North Texas becoming active 1 minute before the Storm Prediction Center.

Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades,

Are we going to get slammed this evening, or will it fizzle out?

#48 Simple Voice

The "postings by Charles" @ WM will probably become a mantra with the left side of the blogosphere.

I would not be surprised. Drum will never have to prove their authenticity, and any objections by Charles will be "proof" that they're real.

Despite evidence to the contrary, the left keeps repeating the same lies over and over. 100,000 dead in Iraq, the memo's in Rathergate may have been frauds but the story was still true, Bush stole the election, we support the military, blah blah blah...

No, actually, the mantra of the Left is that they have "never been proven to be fake"...

I'm about 50/50 semi-confident severe weather will affect Bexar County this afternoon/evening.

Did Kevin just call Charles gay, or does he get namejacked on his own blog?

Thanks Ed.

#51 Spiny Norman

No, actually, the mantra of the Left is that they have "never been proven to be fake"...

I stand corrected.

Tiger is 4 up after 2 holes in final round. Go Tiger!

Yankees are sucking air against the O's. Life is good.

Nice work. This is why the left is so marginalized, and can’t win at anything.

Great point, Charles.

This is why fascism, communism, socialism, and all sorts of other bad "-isms" exist: for those who find the rules of the land unsatisfactory to their whims and desires and wish to find an alternate, utopian universe. Selfishness, egotism, and elitism are the core of these trains of thought - the abstraction of the spoiled brat who wants it all and can't get it through regular means - so they use the courts, the "true believers", and other agitators to try to implement it. The plan is to seek out the obstructors and to either outcast them, destroy their reputations, or if all else fails, kill them.

Think of its as the most popular kids in high school with AK-47s and four year scholarships to the best colleges, who will not let any other of their kind join their exclusive little club unless they pay absolute fealty to their plans. Fortunately, as history has played out, these egomaniacs are the ones being seen as fools and as overtly ridiculous, and hence the ones who hate their guts are the ones who want them out. Scared and insecure of losing power, they either oppress the public even further or the public succeeds in tossing them out. The Berlin Wall is a great example: the residents of the Eastern Bloc (the nerds) had enough of Communism (the cool kids, and maybe a few members of the drama club), so the leaders opened the borders, not realizing that their power was gone as soon as the residents took down the Wall.

The Left (with their friends in the Angry Left and Islam) are hurting for fresh ideas that the public will find acceptable. They have none, and are having the mother of all spoiled-brat temper tantrums. We handed the Left a big spanking in the 2004 elections, yet they still whine that they're not being taken seriously. If they want to be "taken seriously," the most simple way of doing this is to accept that their ideas do not work, and to stop all attempts of forcing people to accept their weak (and egoist/elitist/selfish) ideas.

He removed the comments, suppressing opposition! But he didn't remove MY comments, which makes him an ass!

How 'bout this: does anybody here actually care who posted the comments? Or what was discussed in the other comments on the site? Or do such facts get in the way of your pre-focused hatred towards Drum and his ilk?

I know you admit not reading all of these comments, Charles, so I'll forgive the fact that you cannot see this site as being as trollish, if not more so, than sites such as Drum's.

Charles, given the obvious namejacking on Drum's site and the fact that the thread has not been shut down, it's entirely possible that the post you refer to was a troll over there.

Namejackers should be shot, IMHO.

Or do such facts get in the way of your pre-focused hatred towards Drum and his ilk?

Uh, dude, it might be hatred if they ever won anything, or if they had any control whatsoever. But since they're so entirely impotent, hate would be wasted on them. I'll save that for people who want to destroy western Civilization, if you don't mind.

Screeching lefties are funny.

so I'll forgive the fact that you cannot see this site as being as trollish, if not more so, than sites such as Drum's

Really? Show me where a private persons name and place of residence has been posted here.

Be careful- when the Left once again rises and the GOP is in the minority you will eat your words about the Lrft never winning anything- by the way, if you look at the major issues of polic and government the Left has won 9 out of 10 of all major policy disputes for decades- the GOP doesn't even pretend to be a small government party anymore and as the religious extremists continue to exercise more power it doesn't even stand for personal liberty and freedom here at home.

J.S.

[Link: voices...] ofreason.info

#61

If the left ever gets there, they're going to have to do it by backing away from communism, ie: coming back to the center.

I'm not worried.

#61 jscorse2
When the Judeo-Christian American Religious Extremists behead you under a banner that says CHRIST IS LORD on the 700 club, you'll have an argument.
Till then, pimp your blog-rag elsewhere.
~The American Judeo-Christian Religious Revolution

by the way, if you look at the major issues of polic and government the Left has won 9 out of 10 of all major policy disputes for decades-

I'd bet a lot of money that I've voted for more presidents than you have. Having said that, I will agree that the left has, for decades, served as obstructionists, thus forcing those of us on the right to compromise in order to move forward. T'is democracy. But the left's posture is far from showing leadership, and the electorate knows this. Get used to being the minority party, your days of glory are behind you.

jscourse:

I have never been to Drum's site and I have no intention of going.

but...

I was in the Democratic party for decades and they lost me in this decade so I would say that when they have life long Dems like me jumping ship they have a problem.

Robert Spencer over at Jihadwatch.org has had the same thing happen to him in the last few days:

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Charles, I'll wear my leather pants, the ones with the butt cheeks cut out. Oh! I'm getting excited already! Posted by: Kevin Drum on April 10, 2005 at 3:42 PM |

Wow! This site is really toxic. I wonder if kevin will accept accountability for this post? If he had half a brain he'd reformat his hard drive and get a job at jack in the box.

...marginalized, and can’t win at anything.

They shall be defeated again and again until they are sick with nausea and defeat-tumors and just can't stand it anymore.

Then they will be defeated again.

Jheka, realwest, Charles - This stuff should be condemened by all. It can happen to LLL's too. Absolutely disgusting. I'm also not thrilled by the Iron Fist attacks... Why must everything be personal to some people? It's so low...

I thought he said he was shutting the thread down. Is it taking him this long to figure out how to do it?

#61 jscorse2

I hate to burst your bubble, but the left has not been able to elect a president who campaigned as a socio-economic liberal since 1964. That being Lyndon Johnson.

In 1968 they lost to Richard M. Nixon arguably the most unpopular politician in the last 70 years.

In 1972 the same Richard M. Nixon horse whipped the lefty George McGovern.

In 1976 Carter was elected president by campaigning as a social conservative and moderate in econimc matters, in other words as a Georgia Govenor ie; Bubba. And with all of that he barely beat Gerald Ford the only un-elected President of the United States of America, and the man who pardoned Richard M. Nixon.

In 1980 Carter lost to Reagan who was portrayed as lunatic bomb throwing reactionary.

In 1984 and 1988 the democrats ran old fashioned, openly liberal candidates and lost decisively.

In 1992 the democrats won by running a Bubba candidate who promised to do a better than the first Bush of being a republican moderate and he only won by a plurality. Again this man showed his bona fides by rushing back from the campaign to execute a retard not to mention the press pimping for one of their own by portraying Bush 41 as an out of touch elitest ( as if the Kennedy's are not).

In 1996 Clinton ran against a dodering old man and having the benefit of a booming economy and stock market still could not win a majority of the vote.

In 2000 Al Gore with the benefit of the incumbent, of eight years of peace and prosperity and the press portraying Bush as a spoiled rich kid moron should have won by a landslide. But he did not. instead he tried to fix an election in Florida by picking to recount votes in favorable democratic counties instead of having a statewide review ( and disallowing military absentee ballots). That is why the US Supreme court ruled in favor of Bush. In other words contrary to lefty dellusions of grandeur, the court ruled that the election rules cannot be changed during the course of an election.

Indeed the only obvious cases of voter fraud in the 2000 and 2004 elections were in democrat states or counties. ie; St.Louis Mo. in 2000 where a candidate who died during the campaign died and was replaced by his wife and the polls where kept open after the rest of the state closed costing John Ashcroft his senate seat and in 2004 gubernatorial election in Washington state where it appears as obvious fraud was committed in King ( Seattle) county.

In 2004 again with a full court press by the media the left lost again decisively the elections for the Presidency and Congress.

Indeed since 1948 the democrats have not won a single presidential election by running as full bore socio-economic liberals without the intervention of the political Gods ( the murder of JFK and the running of Barry Goldwater- portrayed as a right wing extremist by the press) in 1984.

jscorse2 unless the republicans truly and royal screw up it isn't likely you will see an openly lefty liberal in the Whitehouse in your lifetime.

jscorse2 one more thing I forgot to add in my previous post. In the 1960 election JFK ran to the right of Nixon on national defense and campaigned to lower taxes!
And with all of that he still needed daddy fascist Joe Kennedy to get his mob buddies to spread money in the West Virginia primaries. Old Joe supported McCarthy. Funny thing how Don Hewitt (of 60 minutes fame) who produced the TV debates between JFK and Nixon didn't bother to tell Nixon ( who was suffering from the flu) that he would look ill on TV without make-up all the while knowing JFK ( who used make-up and looked artificially tanned and healthy from steroids for his medical conditions that he did not disclose at the time) that JFK was using make-up.

The left will not win a national election by running an open leftist. Even Rooseveldt ran as a fiscal conservative in the 1932 election. Get used to the fact that left is always going to lose when running as leftist in national elections.

Drum is a major league A-Hole.
Back almost three years ago his readers were trying to "out" some university professor that also had a blog because the yet-to-be-tenured professor had expressed a level of incredulity at some of his moon-bat colleagues. That's all.

I sent Kevin a nice e-mail asking him why he would allow that to happen on his site.
His sole response was that there are "assholes" on both sides.
That's it. He did nothing and I believe the professor almost lost his job because of it and I'm sure his tenure track at that particular university is all but dead.

At that point I lost all respect for the guy and realized that he was just another brown shirt of the left.

I'm done being nice with these idiots as they would sooner slit your throat and starve your family than allow any dissent from THEIR truth.

No offense to anyone involved, but I'm not all that concerned about details of your private lives, or any transgressions that you may have committed. I visit LGF to learn history, be informed of current events, blow off steam, offer perspective and get a few laughs from the many amateur comedians around here. I don't consider myself part of some "cyber-gang"

Those Drum-beaters were like losers who spend too much time watching "Survivor" on TV, and then spend half the next day at work debating which contestants they hated and why. Gosh, get a life already.

#74 cubanbob

There was also the nj senatorial race in 2002 where the nj supreme court allowed the democrats to change candidates AFTER the legal date to do so had passed. The nj supreme court used the bogus argument that the voters of nj DESERVED a choice in the election after the INDICTED candidate withdrew.

What the nj supreme court IGNORED was that the people of nj had a choice. They chose to select a candiate they knew was under investigation for illegal activity. It was only after it was so obvious that the candidate would LOSE the 2000 election that he chose to drop out of the race.

The nj supreme court and the demcrats BLATANTLY ignored a law, written by democrats and signed by a democrat govenor, laying out the specifics on how and when a candidate for office could be replaced.

In many ways this was similar to algore's attempt to change the rules of the 2000 presidential election. The major difference is, the US Supreme Court failed in it's duties to tell nj that it could not change the rules and substitute candidates after the LEGAL deadline had passed.

This falls in line with why democrats are fighting so hard to prevent Bush's nominees from being voted upon. These nominees are men who believe in the Rule of Law. This sticks in the craw of democrats who believe that the US Constitution is there to be bent, twisted and distorted to meet their requirements. When they cannot do this, they simply ignore the law(s).

I think I shall be a Kevin Drum's troll. He needs trolls. Now, I swore off trolling back in the old compuserve days, but it's like riding a bike. Once you get back on the wheels you can do it.

::polishing off the Onthumb personna...hmmm, a little dusty::

That thread needs to be framed and presented to any Democrat who claims that the left isn't a bunch of reactionary imbeciles.

To Charles Johnson : Kevin Drum isn't even in your league...Your CLASSINESS is without compare...

Update to post #20:

Kevin has just replied to my e-mail and has deleted the comments that I referred him to. I apologized to him for suggesting here that he had ignored it, as it seems that he simply hadn't gotten to it yet.

...okay...excuse my ignorance and all...but WHO THE HECK IS KEVIN DRUM? Seriously! Is he anyone we really care about? No--IGNORE HIM!