Good.

still in bad taste

Suppression of free speech! Karl Rove ordered it! Waaah!

/LLL

Metaphor. Light. Cockroaches.

Put it together yourself.

And I just received this response to my complaint to CafePress:

Hi , Thank you for contacting CafePress!

This product has been removed from CafePress.com. We do not approve
of or endorse hate related material. CafePress.com is an automated
system and all items on our site are created by the general public.
We did not create this item.

We apologize for any inconvenience. To learn more about how
CafePress.com works, please visit
[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

If you have any additional questions or concerns, please let us know.

Sincerely,

Customer Support
CafePress.com

Oh that Karl Rove is sooo smart...

/moonbat off

Truly vile.

Some people have no sense of propriety at all.

No doubt, the folks over at DU and Kos are frothing over this. Probably had big orders already placed.

Umm... Isn't advocating the death of the President something beyond "hate speech?" Like considered a death threat?

Enjoy the silence before the trolls arrive to bleat about free speech or whatever their key word is this week.

Cafe Press will not police itself for this shit. They're perfectly happy to sell all manner of offensive garbage unless and until someone shines a light on it. If you want to keep racist and/or threatening merchandise out of their stores, you have to keep a look out and keep the pressure on.

Doesn't this kind of stuff get the creator into deep doo-doo with the CIA? Surely that qualifies as incitement to murder?

Perhaps whoever made the thing was buoyed by the recent court decision that classified such things as protected speech?

Mark Peters

CafePress has more:

"americanapology"
[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

"sorryeverybody"
[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

Anti-bush section
[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

OT but on a lighter note:

Viagra ruled 'kosher for Passover'

Rabbis have risen to the occasion and found a way for men who want to enjoy their Passover . . .

Oy!

get the creator into deep doo-doo with the CIA? Surely that qualifies as incitement to murder?

um. nope.
contact the secret service, though.
they take threats to the president's life Very Seriously... as rightly they should.

I hardly think I have any influence on such matters, but I did send them a nasty e-mail this morning. Perhaps I was not the only one?

Case in point: "Call to Jihad" trucker hat.

If they don't police there site, maybe we could sell T-Shirts that say stuff like:

I'm in a Vegetative State
I'm a liberal
Please kill me.

Speaking of assassination products, does anyone have a link to the Che T-Shirt with the Sniper Scope on Che's forehead?

I can't, for the life of me, find it anywhere online and would be much obliged to any who could point me in the right direction.

link is now being redirected to a Pro-Bush page.

Man, THAT's gonna tick a lot of people off...
Hey, what's up w/ the 'organic' lables on so many of the shirts - do pro bush buyers really CARE if it's "Organic" or not?

Peace pussies.

Humph. Much ado about nothing, I say. I see more offensive stuff everytime LGF operative zombie posts a new set of moonbat photos. But ya just gotta love that "Celebrate Diversity" T-shirt over there on the right side of the page ! I think I'm actually going to buy a couple of those for Christmas gifts to those who would appreciate them !

The Secret Service did show up to question some folks at the Columbia College in Chicago about a exhibit contain a 'stamp' with a picture of the President with a gun pointed at his head...

Despicable

Linky

#18 hunter

You weren't the only one. My email wasn't nasty, just seriously called into question their judgement in allowing a product like that to appear under their name. As we now know, you can do whatever you want on that site in terms of product content with no apparent oversight by them. Also an unwise practice, IMO.

Nice of them to take it down. Really nice. If they had fought it would only take one judge to rule it "protected speech" and then we would really be off to the races.

Their customer support phone number is 1-877-809-1659. Voice your complaints by phone is more effective than by e-mail.

Capt. Queeg

Mine wasn't TOO nasty, but to the point. I did suggest they be investigated.

Funny, but they haven't responded to mine...

CafePress

"Jihad" section

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

Does anyone know who made these shirts? Could've just been some Republican playing a prank.

#19 -
Nice...

#5 Capt. Queeg ,

"CafePress.com is an automated system and all items on our site are created by the general public. We did not create this item."

If litigation was brought against them that disclaimer wouldn't protect them from a suit. Legally they are responsible since they are the owners of said site. Whether they check or do not check is their problem (they oughta check).

George W. Nazi.

#33 Rayra ,

Business - they're smart short-term busines people

#34 mglazer--

So would that apply to this site too?

Now, here's an interesting pickle. Should Terrantino sue the creators of the shirt for a blatant ripoff of the movie he created, or will he do nothing in a silent admitance that he agrees with the message on the shirt?

who rogered up the link?

They even have an anti-Israel one in the mix:

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

"Zakat : stop bush/war/cheney" section

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

#37 Chomsky ,

Yes, if the site allows someone to create illegal materials for public distribution such as t-shirts for sale cross state lines (RICO) i.e. to kill the American president t-shirts

Would it ever have been pulled if Charles hadn't posted it here?

No.

Keep up the good work, Charles. We have to keep up the pressure on the moonbats. (As if I have to tell you that!)

What do you suppose this graphic means?

#43 NC ,

Bonus! I love the big glowering red "MADE IN THE USA" stamp over the Italian's (or spanish ?) paleo propaganda

NC, you can wear the shiet to the country club to "mingle."

Vittoria al intifada", Victory to the intifada

» Tell a friend about this product!

---
Product Information:

Tee off in casual style. Our golf-style, collared t-shirt is a comfortable, lightweight way to play 18-holes and beat the heat. Features, stylish wood-tone buttons, yet it feels like wearing your favorite t-shirt. Dress it up or down. Throw a blazer over later for country club mingling. Great for layering.

This post contains an invisible fake target on the head of the fake ward churchill.

_{Did you see it...I used my INVISO Technology...slaps head, of course you couldn't. I forgot to tell you guys to use your super secret INVISO- glasses. DAMN IT.}

Mentat

Charles posted it yesterday, but the attention came when Drudge put it up a few hours ago...

Well, I meant to say shirt, but maybe shiet is better.

#37 Chomsky

Do we need to explain the difference between T-shirts and comments in a blog again?

#19 NC

Sick.

On sale now: Hezbollah t-shirts.

Note the caption. The leftist worldview in exquisite microcosm.

"Ayad's Arabic and Islamic Shop : ! PaLeSTiNe !

Shirts and merchandise in support of the palestinian people and their Intifada against occupation and oppression! "

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

and, er, uhm, all proceeds go to my lunch milk fund

another lovely bumper sticker

New Game!

Find the most far-out cafepress items!

#49 Capt. Queeg

I don't know about you, but I always print Friday night's comments and wear them for a night out on the town.

For those looking for good shirts, there's this one: Sod off, swampy! Although I'm still looking for a good "Cockney Barrow Boy Spiv" shirt.

cathy :-)

I'm sure the families of our fallen soldiers appreciate

this

I'm in a Vegetative State
I'm a liberal
Please kill me.

Loved Ann Coulter's comment that the upside of the Schaivo controversy is we now have every liberal in the country on record as saying we can pull the plug on them.

57 loppyd

I never cease to be sickened or amazed at how those who have sacrificed nothing castigate and vilify those who have sacrificed much.

What kind of lameass orwellian bullshit is it to REDIRECT a url with .. in it to a Pro Bush page?

Actually, it makes perfect sense. Cafe Press are capitalist scum, right? They'll sell anything to make a buck unless they get busted for it. So who is busting them over the "Kill Bush" t-shirts? People coming from Republican blogs, that's who! So now when people follow a link from LGF or God-knows-where, they get helpfully redirected to a page shilling for products that might be more to their liking, i.e. pro-Bush wear.

Pretty sneaky, eh? I suspect the owners are Democrats and probably amused by the idea of making a buck off of those bad old "asshole" Republicans, but otoh if the tables were turned and the shirt was for "Kill Hillary", I have no doubt they would do the same thing and redirect it to pro-Hillary (shudder) gear.

Not to spend too much time on the pro-Bush merch., but...

I have to say "Bush Won! HA HA HA!" is a great bumper sticker.

Sure, prior to the election I was very worried that John F-ing Kerry would win. Now that there's a gulf of time between that near disaster and the present, I can appreciate the humor of the Junior Senator from Massachusetts trying to run for president.

In general: near disaster + distance = comedy. And few jokes are as rich as the LLL thinking they had a winner in Kerry.

#60 jake
cleverly thought out

59 Gabba Gabba Hey

The disdain they have for the military is palpable. Makes me ill.

The Secret Service is gonna be working overtime

The LEFTies are and have been inciting violence - what is worse it's directed towards the seating US president

Remember these are American privileged citizens or spoiled brats who hate America but not enough to leave and lose its cushiness

As I have said before loyal and disloyal citizens following a scale should be treated differently by our government

The government should not be indifference to disloyal citizens specificaly ones who incite violence towards it or do not pay taxes

deport, deport , deport

The lefties have indoctrinated Americans to treat criminals and victims as the same - this is bad and will hurt us all

Illegal activities must be punished or the rule of law is kapput and the societal contract becomes null and void leading to anarchy

"Still available at Cafe Press: stylish Hizballah t-shirts."

And all proudly "made in the usa" - whatever that really means (china ?)

Hezbollah shirt:

"Made in the USA" they proclaim!

Nice, safe leftist chic. All show...

They're like mice playing with the cat.

Typing the word "kill" on the cafepress.com search engine automatically directs to pro-Bush items. Now, I understand the people at cafepress are a little busy fixing their mistake...but wouldn't the moonbats just have a field day with the idea of being able to go over there, type in the word "kill" and for only pro-Bush items to appear?

Too Late. CafePress may as well run with that despicable shirt because all their ad hoc backpeddaling won't get me to spend a nickle on their merchandise of any kind. Some bad judgements just need to be punished and this is one of them.

If the Left's paranoid Bush=Hitler fantasy were true the lot of them would already be dead.

The Left's continued existence is the refutation of its delusions.

Apparently they still have a vendor on there named "killbush420" (did they choose 4/20 because it's Hitler's birthday!?), which seems to have some pretty nasty merchandise based on my quick look through it, e.g., the Twin Towers shirt.

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

Ya gotta love the missing apostrophe in "For Gods Sake"

This seems to be getting close to the teeshirt's territory:

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

#53 loppyd

Speaking of bumperstickers: I saw one last night that said (in large type): "HATE THE ENEMY" but had (in small type) "is" and "only" careted between each word pair.

Woah, Duuude! That's, like, so deep my brian got the bends.

Cafepress.com's statement

The "Kill Bush" products have been removed from CafePress.com. They were created by individuals across the globe, as are the more than 8 million products available on CafePress.com, a diverse network of more than one million shops.

Hate related materials are in violation of our terms of service and are prohibited from being sold through CafePress.com. CafePress.com is an automated service, and as such, products are reviewed on an ongoing basis to ensure that merchandise that is in violation of our terms of service is removed from our site.

To learn more about how CafePress.com works, please take the Tour.

-- The CafePress.com Team

"This product has been removed from CafePress.com. We do not approve of or endorse hate related material."

But that doesn't mean they aren't above trying to make a buck off crap like that.

Losers. They're only sorry they got called out on it.

Delightful that the Hezbollah t-shirts are made in the US. Ugh.

#76 Spunkman

CafePress.com is an automated service, and as such, products are reviewed on an ongoing basis to ensure that merchandise that is in violation of our terms of service is removed from our site.

What they are really saying is that "anything goes unless too many people complain, and THEN we take a look at it."

Now knowing that "hate related material" is in violation of cafepress.com's terms of service, would cafepress consider this hate related material? Which raises another question...why does they even have an anti-Bush page, dedicated to those who hate Bush?

You all are going to love THESE CafePress items, still available.

...

#82 Spiny Norman
You can say that again.

The blog ate my post!

Power Line and Michelle Malkin also had posts about the disturbing rise in assassination rhetoric from the unhinged left.

I've been flamed at Fark.com for pointing out that, as wacky as some of the kook fringe Clinton-haters were, I NEVER saw any "Kill Bubba" T-shirts or any assassination "jokes" from the Right.

There.

#78 zulubaby - It's too bad those shirts are made ANYWHERE.

#81 aaron

For a brief moment I thought those others were real...

Or are they?

=^O

#84 Spiny Norman ,

That is because the RIGhT respect America and her institutions no matter who is in charge

We are loyal Americans through and through

Unlike the LEFT who literally hate and want to destroy America

The LEFTies do not get it and that is why they dont get the voters

Charles - I understand that today's your birthday, so

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHARLES!

I don't know where to post this so I'll just put it here.

The Muslim media's culture of death

It so distresses me that we are allowing these children, the future leaders of Bangladesh, to be brainwashed with hatred and extremism. These institutions are surely breeding thousands of Bin Ladens and Arafats for the future.

I have listened to this filth since childhood. When I grew up, I turned my eyes to the Bible and many other books, had Christian and Jewish friends, and now am convinced that what the mullahs taught was not merely false, but also evil. That is clear not only to me but to many others in my country.

For there to be any chance of lasting peace, this must change. How can we have peace when most Muslims still believe Israel was behind the September 11 attacks on the US? How can we have peace when Muslims see their own leaders refusing even to recognize Israel's right to exist? How can we have peace when we neither hear nor read anything to the contrary?

We can't. Quite simply, there will be no meaningful Muslim presence in any peace dialogue without an effective media in the Muslim world to combat the false images that today build a culture of death.

Islam does not endorse terrorism, the killing of innocents or even destruction of property. Under normal conditions, Muslims would not do so either. And yet so few Muslims object to what is being done in the name of their religion. Opportunists don an Islamic mask to justify their misdeeds, and our media support them and, thereby, our own impoverishment, ignorance and oppression.

--

The writer was editor of the Bangladeshi magazine Weekly Blitz when he was arrested and accused of, but not charged with, supporting the State of Israel. He awaits trial in Cell No.15 of the Dhaka Central jail in Bangladesh. See [Link: www.freechoudhury.com...] and [Link: www.penusa.org...] for more information.

realwest (#85)

Also true.

FOX showed a painting of multiple stamp images of Bush with a gun pointing at his head. The painting is meant to look like a sheet of stamps. It was just as disgusting as the CafePress t-shirt which I wrote them about. They sent me back a weaselly letter which I won't even repeat. Suffice to say that was before Michelle and everyone weighed in. I got my 2 cents in early and I guess they thought I was only one. The rest came after and they've had to change their policy. Good!

Here's something to think about:

JFK was killed by a Leftist.

Happy 39th Charles! :)

Speaking of Hezbollah ...

Hizbullah asks for French mediation in Lebanon

The letter says French support for the resolution "provoked many Lebanese, who do not like to see France become a captive of wild and aggressive American hegemony."

"France," Nasrallah writes in the letter, "is called upon as a friend to help in pushing forward a national dialogue and internal reconciliation."

Hmm, link to the big image still works at 1601EDT so I guess they still missed that.

I'm glad they reacted quickly to pull this crap off their website.

How about this for a t-shirt or bumber sticker:

COGITO ERGO SUM--REPUBLICAN

bumber should have been bumper

darn keypad is acting up again!

#69 Rayra:

This 'oh, it's just a joke' mentality is meant to cover the fact that they really, really hope someone will actually try it on against Bush! Just like when someone is mean to you and then tells you they were just kidding. Well...they weren't--and they aren't kidding now with these t-shirts. That's incitement and as I pointed out to them in my email there's enough looneys out there that all some of them need is one look at a t-shirt like that and they're liable to act on it. It just not a good thing to have out there. But I believe people who incite stuff like this and say it's a joke are only fooling themselves about their own intentions. It's really a covert call for assassination! How did politics ever get so deadly?

#94 zulubaby:

The real Lebanese won't like that one little bit. It's not up to Hezbollah to seek arbitration. It's up to the discredited PM to get out of the way and stand down for elections which, if Hezbollah wins, they can then dictate terms. But they haven't won yet and many of the people of Lebanon hate Chirac for siding with Hezbollah's support of Syria and Iran's instructions to both those countries.

Cafeces press is still selling shi'ite t-shirts. How quaint.

Bon anniversaire monsieur lézard!

And they still have Kill Bush buttons and other products.

See [Link: donsingleton.blogspot.com...]

Ah, yes, Happy Birthday Charles, from all us Lizardoid Minions!

Don't forget the "Crush Zionism" Shirt with the Palestinian Nationist symbol on the back.

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

#104 Baier
I can only imagine a stinking throng of stoner moonbats wearing those coming up against a female IDF contingency.
Yea, they'd crush 'em. Mm hmm.
after they peed in their pants.
LOL!

These people are beyond words. I wrote all this stuff but deleted it. How can I express my mixture of outrage and sorrow over this sort of BS?

The sad thing is, it is no longer the lunatic fringe. I know people I once thought had brains in their heads and were good people, express these same sentiments.

#72

I think "420" may be a reference to pot smoking. But that's just my guess.

ATTENTION:

I intend to play a little joke on these c*cksuckers.

Can someone in the US get me a phone/fax number for these people.

I'm outside the US and cannot dial a 1-800 number from here.

E-mail me by clickin' on the nic! Thanks in advance.

Rayra

Right you are. When the Left starts talking about assassination, it's time to take that talk seriously. They're expert in trying to overturn Democracy at the point of a gun.

#107 Rayra

Sadly, I think you are right. Has anyone seen this? Art Exhibit Featuring Bush Stamp Probed

The Secret Service sent agents to investigate a college art gallery exhibit of mock postage stamps, one depicting President Bush with a gun pointed at his head.

Of course it is at a college...

BTW, the cafe press disclaimer that Charles posted? Pathetic.

NM, found something!

Via Patriotboy:

I suppose an LGFer using Cafe Press to ridicule the death of Rachel Corrie gets a pass.

The woman's been dead for over a year. Let her rest in peace. This is seriously ghoulish behavior.

#97 steve - actually, I preferred the "bumber" version!

The left has taken over the Democrat Party. Hopefully this is another, of the many signs, their party will enter history like The Whig Party.

TO: All
RE: CafePress

They are registered in California.

I think we should all ask the Governator to re-enact his role as the Terminator and visit Mr. Mahish, who is the reputed CEO of CafePress.

Regads,

Chuck(le)
P.S. You can also write the Secretary of State of the Great State of California to complain too.

#113 pedant

Maybe you should just send a complaint to CafePress then, big boy.

113 liberality

What a crock of hypocrisy. The Left can continue bringing her name up as an example of the evil Israelis and the evil Caterpillar Corp but those of us who think her death was a complete waste for a ridiculous cause are baaad people for talking about it.

The time that has passed hasn't made her decision any less stupid.

#109 -- An occasionally useful tip: it is possible to call 800 and some other toll-free numbers from outside their zone, if you are willing to pay for the call. Replace 800 with 880, replace 888 with 881, or replace 877 with 882. (There are no equivalent substitutions for 866 or 855 toll-free numbers.)

#116 Chuck Pelto:

Hi Colonel, how ya been?

Warm Regards;

#116 Chuck Pelto:

Ahhh, must back to work, or it's the lash for me. Will catch you later. 9ish EDT.

Regards;

Why don't we hear about this in the MSM like the uproar about Rush Limbaugh promoting violence through unprovable threats to Puffy Daschle?

#113 liberality

A t-shirt of a bulldozer with a "got syrup" caption is in no way similar to a shirt with "Kill Bush" on it.

Moral relativism doesn't go far with this crowd

#118 mich-again

Too true! And why can't her moonbat parents let her rest in pieces peace? Talk about opportunists. Their 15 minutes of fame are going on, and on, and on, and on...feh!

Cafepress member KILL-BUSH proudly proclaims that she supports the troops

what a fuckhead

#113 liberality

The woman's been dead for over a year. Let her rest in peace.

Are you kidding? Rachel Corrie sad death has been a propaganda bonanza for leftists and Islamics. You can count on the ISM and their fellow travelers doing an annual fund raising tap dance on her coffin. She's of much more value to the Left dead than she ever was alive; they'll never let her rest in peace---not as long as there are some bucks to be raised.

TO: Bilgeman
RE: I'll Be...

"Hi Colonel, how ya been?" -- Bilgeman

...dipped in shit. K Passa, back at ya, compadre.

Life persists. Despite all the worst that 'other guy' can throw at me.

Hope all is well with you.

How long has it been? 10 years? Cripes! Time's fun when you're having flies.

Good to hear from you again.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

It's okay if the Left does it, but it's wrong if the Right does it.

If someone tried to sell a similar item about Hillary Clinton, Al Sharpton, etc. all hell would break loose. Since it's about Bush, the media thinks it's cute.

TO: Malleus Dei
RE: A Modest Proposal...

"If someone tried to sell a similar item about Hillary Clinton, Al Sharpton, etc. all hell would break loose. Since it's about Bush, the media thinks it's cute." -- Malleus Dei

...for an experiment.

Someone ought to do it.

However, it should be done in a manner that is well documented so as to show there was no mens rea.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. The question becomes, who is in a position that they could accomplish such a feat and not totally ruin themselves; financially, morally, socially, etc.?

#127, Malleus Dei. My Man the Reverand Al, says it's OK to use his name or image on the shirts as long as he gets his usual 10% of the gross. As per his standard contract, he also wants top billing, name in letters larger than any other text, and mention of his leading Dem Presidential contender status in any ads or product promotions.

Charles, is this the same Cafe Press with ads on LGF?

its been obvious for awhile Bush is a prime target for an assassanation, however...the only group I could see within the USA that could pull it off is the same group the got JFK, the mafia. Anyone know if the mob highly dislikes bush over anything, and would want Cheney as prez?

now it wouldn't suprise if some international group or gov't. had him whacked, but still these people are smarter than the reactionary left that it doesn't even click Cheney would become prez immediately.

. . . as in [Link: www.cafepress.com...]

#107 Rayra -- "With the ongoing escalation of assassination rhetoric going on within the LLLeft, I predict there'll be an attempt on President Bush or his brother Gov Jeb or the GOP Nominee before the 2008 Election, by a Leftist-Anarchist."

It's a scary thought, but one that can't be dismissed. Also, there was the attempt on Gerald Ford by Lynnette "Squeaky" Fromm, another anarchis from the Manson clan.

That's "anarchist" PIMP

pimF. No mas.

My wife won't let me read Michelle Malkin anymore -- I spend too much time looking at her picture.

Michelle? Are you married?

#21 Alex F

Speaking of assassination products, does anyone have a link to the Che T-Shirt with the Sniper Scope on Che's forehead?

That shirt was sold via Allahpundit.com and was removed shortly before Allah called it quits. 'Tis a pity, really.

At least I got mine. :)

#136 rickmoss

Michelle Malkin is married.

Laura Ingraham is single, but I would like to change that. ;-)

Hezbollah Logo with caption, “THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND”

This certainly does explain the LLL coziness with the ROP.

all this hateful assassination garbage is just the result of sliding down the slippery slope of "tolerance". Just exactly how much are we, the people, willing to tolerate? Maybe the assassination itself? Since there seems to be no behavior anymore bad enough to be considered "treason", then why would an assassination be any more alarming than any daily gang shooting? Some days I can barely recognize the country in which I am living.

How much longer before political assassination of a conservative is ruled as protected freedom of expression?

Oh, look. Pro IRA T shirts too!

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

Well, I once wrote a story set after a military coup that featured the summary execution of a Democrat president.

Ian saw that the old bakery building at 22nd Avenue and Washington Street was boarded up again, another attempt to redevelop the property without demolishing the original single storey brick structure had failed. Plastered all over the structure were posters showing a black and white photograph of a sixty-ish woman, with short fake blonde hair, a standard nine-millimeter service pistol was aimed at her head. The hammer of the pistol in the photograph was blurred as though it were falling on the firing pin.

Over the photograph on the poster in all capital letters was the one word, REMEMBER.

"I'm sorry sir," said the Chief as he pointed to the posters, "but I'm not fully familiar with that bit of Terran history."

"Well," Ian replied, "That's Saint Hillary, a martyr for the holy cause of Democracy. She was just a stupid old bitch who believed that being democratically elected somehow constituted an excuse for abusive and destructive behavior."

at some point there has to be a line that you don't cross regarding expression

sure, you're free to say or print up anything you want, but you have to be ready to deal with the consequences

I am a die-hard conservative who was almost daily appalled by President Clinton, but there is no way that I would ever have advocated an assassination - no American should even think of attacking the office of the President

personally, I hope the secret service investigates and people go to jail - I would consider this kind of expression an outrage to anyone who is an American, regardless of politics

Are they aware that death threats against the president --- even on a T shirt --- are illegal and can result in jail time?

And CafePress can be sued, whether they think so or not.

Cafe Press is an equal opportunity offender here, folks.

They also have "I heart Halliburton" shirts and plenty of conservative, pro Bush, pro war, anti-idiotarian stuff.

I didn't see any Kill John Kerry or Bill Clinton please commit suicide shirts, but "I heart Halliburton" is morally equivalent to "Kill Bush" so its ok.

#133 Studsup:

There was the attempt on Katharine Harris by one of her constituents who tried to stike her with his car just lastl year. He was angry over the election and thought that hitting her with a car was a legitimate form of debate!

Here are some spoof lyrics dedicated to the event:

"Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" Based on the performance by Elmo & Patsy
"Katharine Harris Almost Got Run Over" Parody by Steve Kalafut

It wasn't a reindeer, but a driver who was making, as he put it, a "political expression".

Katharine Harris almost got run over
Walking with supporters one fine day
Sometimes she should just stay off the sidewalk
And realize how rough some people play

You'll remember Katharine Harris
And the flap* four years ago
Controversial election
For a recount the Supreme Court just said no
Later we sent her to Congress
To campaign she then came back
Some guy tried to run her over
As he almost hit her with his Cadillac

Katharine Harris almost got run over
Walking with supporters one fine day
Sometimes she should just stay off the sidewalk
And realize how rough some people play

Feminists said she was ugly
That she aided Dubya's theft
Seems that judging by appearance
Is permitted when a gal ain't on the left
Now she runs for re-election
She has lived through one attack
And we just can't help but wonder
Should we keep our Kat right here, or send her back?
(Send her back!)

Katharine Harris almost got run over
Walking with supporters one fine day
Sometimes she should just stay off the sidewalk
And realize how rough some people play

Now the guy has been arrested
Just who is he tryin' to kid?
It's assault with deadly weapon
Yet he claims it was expression that he did
He could have been charged with murder
If she'd been within his reach
We should all go tell this nut-case
Mister, running over people ain't free speech

Katharine Harris almost got run over
Walking with supporters one fine day
Sometimes she should just stay off the sidewalk
And realize how rough some people play

(*Other four-letter words may be substituted.)

[Link: www.amiright.com...]

#146 - hopefully the last paragraph is sarcasm?

There is a huge difference between saying you love halliburton and wanting to kill anyone, let alone a sitting President - there is a HUGE moral difference...

148

yes, of course. Actually, looking through the posts around the 100's, 110's there was a link to some shirts at Cafe Press that include Hillary Clinton, Please Commit Suicide and some Deep 6 in '06 that features gravestones for Hillary, Feinstein, Bird, Jeffords and underneath: "Daschled."

Some might have been photoshopped or whatnot, otherwise, Cafe Press is playing both sides harshly. And of course, the intent of all of these is humor only.

#148

I agree there is certainly a line that shouldn't be crossed by civil people regardless of political (dis)orientation

HEY NUMB NUTS!

... oh oh, what will we tell the kids? What incitement! How unhinged!

#149 SlothB77 wrote:

And of course, the intent of all of these is humor only.

I'll pretend that you can predict intent for a second...

So if an 18 year old kid shouted "fire" in a theater, he/she should be excused for "humorous intent?"

If a 14 year old wrote "I want to kill Bush" on his homework, that person, too, should be excused as "humorous intent?"

Hypothetically speaking, if a company is producing items that make such statements as "Kill the President," should that person be excused?

How about throwing a pie, salad dressing, etc. at someone?

WND article on CafePress removal of T-shirt (sorry if duplicated above):

The reply I received from CafePress:

Hi,
Thank you for contacting CafePress.com!
CafePress.com provides an automated service to a diverse and vibrant community of international users, who may differ in their view about what is considered offensive. We appreciate that you have brought this content to our attention and will forward your concerns to the appropriate department. If you would like to submit a formal written complaint or have further questions regarding content in one of our Shopkeepers stores please send an e-mail to cup@cafepress.com.

If you have any other inquiries or are experiencing difficulties,
please do not hesitate to reply to this e-mail or call us at our
toll-free number below.

Sincerely,

snip
Inbound Marketing
Specialist
CafePress.com Client Services
Toll-Free:
1-877-809-1659
Local: 1-510-877-1579

Maybe Charles should think seriously about pulling the ads for Cafe Press?

Yesterday, I ordered two "Commies Aren'T Cool" t-shirts from ThoseShirts. Very much looking forward to the arrival. I've already extracted a promise from an LLL friend to pose semi- cheesecake while modelling one said shirts.

#153 OlderNWiser

Based on what you write, and what is stated on cafepress.com's press release, I've just got to find out what their definition of "hate related materials" is. Damn, am I asking for a clear definition of what "hate" is?...never thought I'd even have to ask.

I saw this posted here last night and used the handy "tell a friend about this item" link to tell my friends at DOJ about it.

Economic pressure is what these people understand.
My firm, small though it is, does a pretty fair business marketing our logo merchandise through Cafepress.
I have told them in direct terms that if the Hizbollah terrorist products are not removed within 24 hours, they have seen the last of us.

Today's test for the Ninth Circus:

The originators of the Kill Bush t-shirt will be hunted down, dragged into the streets, and disembowelled with the sharp edges of their broken bongs.

#158

whoa...

#21

I don't guess we can get in trouble for death threats against Che Guevara and Rachel Corrie, or Stalin and Mao for that matter. Che, incidentally, was captured and shot by the Bolivian army after the peasants he had hoped to incite turned him in. Che's little adventure in Bolivia had failed to bring down the government but it did result in the deaths of 57 Bolivian soldiers and an unknown but sizable number of civilians.
There was no possbility that he would be allowed to live. Guevara had sealed his own fate when he murdered wounded soldiers as they lay disarmed and helpless along a jungle trail. A CIA officer who interviewed Guevara during the latter's brief captivity said that Guevara asked if there was anything he, the CIA man, could do. The agent answered, "No, I am sorry, Comandante, you know what must happen."

He was not melodramatically tied to a post and shot by a firing squad, revolutionary hero style, btw. He was left sitting in his chair in the interrogration room, a sergeant with a submachine gun entered the room alone and ventilated the pop-hero/terrorist from behind with no warning. The wealthy Argentine adventurer and psychopath died like the rabid dog he was. His hands were cut off and sent to Castro as proof of his demise. The rest of his decayed carcass was sent back just a few years ago, a gesture from Bolivia's present-day contingent of the media conformist left.

My two cents, for what it's worth...we should just keep track of all these "wonderful" things the left have been doing and saying. Then everytime an election cycle rolls around and they spout their drivel of being inclusive, diverse, kind and caring we pull all their words and deeds out to show what they really are.
A nice commerical, as I see it would be a picture of the kill Bush t-shirt with the audio of Dean saying how he hates all Republicans.

To be fair, I've bought a lot of stuff at CafePress. If I'mnot mistaken, it has many smaller stores under it. I'm glad I bought my stuff, because I'm sure the LLL will complain about the consrvative stuff they carry, even though there is no comparison in my book.

What is so bad about the left threatening Bush?

The right wants to threaten judges.

In fact there has been just such a threat in this thread.

American politics is coming unhinged from the left and the right.

This is one Bush voter who doesn't like the threats coming from either side.

Lest you think I'm some kind of lefty moonbat troll look up my name in the archives. I've been posting here since a few days after 9/11.

BTW,

I'm from the right and like bongs.

So let me see.

Dopers are the new Jews.

Read "Drug Warriors and Their Prey" by Miller to learn more. His previous book was "Nazi Justiz".

Here is a review of Drug Warriors:

How To Put an End to Drug Users.

Demonizing the other is always the first step in the march to the ovens. Not my kind of America.

Demonizing the other is always the first step in the march to the ovens. Not my kind of America.

American politics is coming unhinged from the left and the right.

. . . and from the mushy middle too? ;-)

Seriously, though, I think it looks bad for a Cafe Press ad to be blinking away on LGF while Charles rails against it. Perhaps the ad is bought and paid for and there can be no refund and therefore there is an agreement to be honored, but Charles has be stand-up on all else so a clarification of sorts would be helpful to any would-be critics. (Count me as more concerned than critical: the T-shirts hawked in the LGF ads are more punchy than hateful.)

When ELECTED OFFICIALS make threats towards judges and dissenters, just point out how CITIZENS on the other side do it, too. That'll show (distract) 'em.

And, Charles, stalkers come to YOUR house, not someone else's. Don't flatter yourself.

Did you troll over from Drum's site?

THREATS AGAINST PRESIDENT - 18 USC 871, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to willfully make a true threat to injure or kill the President of the United States.

A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:

First: That the person uttered words alleged to be the threat against the President;

Second: That the person understood and meant the words he used as a true threat; and

Third: That the person uttered the words knowingly and willfully.

A "threat" is a statement expressing an intention to kill or injure the President; and a "true threat" means a serious threat as distinguished from words used as mere political argument, idle or careless talk, or something said in a joking manner.

The essence of the offense is the knowing and willful making of a true threat. So, if it is proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the person knowingly made a true threat against the President, willfully intending that it be understood by others as a serious threat, then the offense is complete; it is not necessary to prove that the person actually intended to carry out the threat.

I run a shop on CafePress and have met with many of the people both in management (including fouders of the company) down to customer service. They have a huge amount of shops in the political section of thier site and the ones that do the most business are actually the "right leaning" ones.

They have been very supportive of me and my shop which happens to be the largest and most successful on CP.

I might add that each image is looked at by a live person but they are "live" once that the image is uploaded so offensive material IS available for a short time before it is removed.

Image verification is obviously backed up and this is probably how something as rediculous as "Kill Bus*" could be available.

TO: RWS
RE: My Advice...

"They have been very supportive of me and my shop which happens to be the largest and most successful on CP." -- RWS

...get away from there. Real people, who understand the law and the difference between political statements and calls for murder, should have nothing to do with CafePress until it cleans up it's act.

And as for your shop being extremely successful there...

...as some Wag put it, "The love of money is the root of all evil."

Regards,

Chuck(le)

RWS, judging by your experience and the fact that Cafe Press also supports LGF, it obviously seems to be a "Big Tent" operation. . . .

CP must be laughing all the way to the bank, making money from the diehards on both sides of the aisle.

Yeah RWS, run away from your successful sales on Cafe Press because they happen to honor ... freedom of speech?!? ... unbiased capitalism?!?

Which side are you on, Chuck? I can't believe you would ask this guy to give up his best selling site for this BS.

So let's see, we have Dobson on the conservative side talking about how gay Spongebob is, we have a bunch of people whining about getting pies (!) thrown at them as if they were bombs, and now we're bitching about t-shirts on cafepress. Unbelieveable.

FYI : Conservative does not have to mean no sense of humor, anal retentive, etc.

Well, they have removed it. I sent them an email complaining, and they claimed that they didn't know what I was talking about. That's because they were guilted into removing it. Bastards!

Hezbollah Logo with caption, “THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND”

Heh, I prefer:

"The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more no less." -Rule #29 of The Seven Habits of Highly Successful Pirates from
Schlock Mercenary

(Not to mention: "There is no overkill. There is only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload'." Rule #37)

Unfortunately, the list isn't complete and you have to hunt through the archives to find the ones that have been mentioned. :)