GRRR!

I can't take any more of this!

Maybe i should get tickets for the show, though, and attend wearing my CAT boots, a Caterpillar tee and perhaps a hard hat for good measure?

That's it! Let's get the California State Assembly to create -

The Rachel Corrie Rattlesnake Preseve.

Hope they are serving pancakes at the premiere

Gonna buy some Caterpillar stock out of spite. Too bad there's not a St. Pancake T-shirt.

Who's playing St. Pancake?

Whatever you do, do not read the review of the play, unless your blood pressure medicine is close at hand, and you have a receptacle for vomiting into.

Thin plot, one dimensional acting. All in all, it left me flat.

God, I wish these Mo--- Fu--- would keep this shit to themselves. THis is going to severely taint my enjoyment of Hitchhiker's Guide (Alan Rickman is in it) which I've been very anxiously awaiting.

DAMNIT.

Rickman's involvement makes me want to cancel the kitchen scraps for widows and orphans, end all merciful behadings, and CALL OFF CHRISTMAS!

The people who would make this production and those who would see it won't ever stop to think about the 'other Rachels'.

Their hatred blinds them.

I can't help but remember, with a smile, that one of the first things that happens in the hitchhiker books is Arthur standing in front of a bulldozer which is trying to demolish his home.

Ultimitely his labors are unsuccessful when the entire planet (with his flat) are destroyed to make way for a hyperspace bypass.

Aaahhh irony.

Is this Alan Rickman the guy who played Hans Gruber in Die Hard I?

Just had a flashback: Remember in "A Fish Named 'Wanda'" when Kevin Klein's character is stuck in cement and get's steam-rolled by the guy whose pet fish he had gulped down?

Someone should organise a protest. Get a couple of people to get in the show with pockets full of pancakes and, ala' Rocky Horror, throw them on stage.

Rickman = Hans Gruber, correct

Yippee Kai Yay, M F'er

#14:

Yup, Thats's "A Fish called Wanda" and it's Michael Palin doin' the steam-rollin'.

I wonder if the play features a scene of Rachel Corrie burning an American flag, murderous expression on her face, surrounded by snot-nosed pali kids and the token gunman?

Right. IHOP it is. Thanks for the reminder.

18 Golden Jerusalem

LOL. There's gotta be a parody in this somewhere.

The problem is that people in theater often don't know that they don't know anything (other than theater).

Someone should put together a farce making fun of all of the useful idiots. There's SO much material, it could be hillarious. I think it could have a huge audience.

And with any luck, there'd be so many useful idiots protesting outside that the terrorists would be able to find any quite place to plant bombs.

19
Of course! Thats the floor show.

#2 Golden Jerusalem

We can save cab fare- share a chauffered Cat D-9

Oh come now, y'all. Could be the only play of the season to win an honorary Darwin Award !

#24 American Soldier:

LOL! That's a great idea for arriving on opening night! HAH!

I think a protest at the theater is warranted. Perhaps handing out flyers to the theater gower as they leave with the names, short biographys and pictures of the other Rachels may suffice.

Any Londoners out there?

Hi Golden Jerusalem, ma nishma? :-)

I bet this is going to be a huge success there. Personally, I'm more interested to know who will play the bulldozer.

#19 Golden Jerusalem

Speaking of burning American flags, I was on an Air Force base a few weeks ago (the college for which I teach offers classes on base) and I saw a bumper sticker that said:

If you must burn our flag, please wrap yourself in it first.

The Battle Hymn of Rachel Corrie:

Oh my name is Rachel Corrie
And I tried to lend a hand
By burning flags and hating Jews
Who came and stole this land.
I died because a big machine
Did not hear my command.
I'm in the West End now.

Gory, Glory Rachel Corrie,
Gory, glory, Rachel Corrie,
Gory, glory, Rachel Corrie.
My soul goes fighting

I was taken up an deified by people with slant
Who hate the wicked Zionists and love a hateful rant
My apotheosis is complete
That's one thing you must grant.
I'm in the West End now.

Gory, Glory Rachel Corrie,
Gory, glory, Rachel Corrie,
Gory, glory, Rachel Corrie.
My soul goes fighting

Look at the heat a simple meet-up brought. Can you imagine the degree of frothing the moonbats would have if some LGFer's actually organized a protest of the Ode to St. Pancake?

On--my soul goes fighting on. Oops.

#28 Hila
Rosie O'Donnel

#28 Hila:

Beseder, toda. Ani be ha'geva'a sheli.

Ma slomech?

Speaking of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", I saw a movie preview for it last week and it looked...bad. I don't think I could bear it if they did a bad movie about Hitchhiker's Guide.

#9 thesecularconservative

God, I wish these Mo--- Fu--- would keep this shit to themselves. THis is going to severely taint my enjoyment of Hitchhiker's Guide (Alan Rickman is in it) which I've been very anxiously awaiting.

I know exactly what you mean. I can't enjoy a movie with Sean Penn and his ilk anymore, because I can't watch the movie without their moonbat politics entering into my mind. And it irks me to in any way support them with my entertainment dollars...

# 33

Uh, it's a bulldozer, not a VLCC.

Oops,

al ha'geva'a sheli, ani meniach?

Chris the prof:

If you must burn our flag, please wrap yourself in it first.

LOL!

I do not understand the premise of having an entire show honoring somebody that was too freakin' stupid to get out of the way of heavy equipment.

I could go on a construction job site tomorrow with bulldozers and would they make a play about ME in England? Hell, no. I know better than to stand in the way.

31 Quilly Mammoth

Look at the heat a simple meet-up brought

I just saw the one article featuring Iron Fist and friend wearing Lizard jackets. What else have you heard?

#28 American Soldier

LOL, yeah, I see how this could work.

#34 GD

Beseder, karagil ata yodea. It's going to be really hot on Friday. :-(

GJ of course. Oops.

#40 SwampWoman

I could go on a construction job site tomorrow with bulldozers and would they make a play about ME in England

They would if you were holding a "Free Palistine!" sign...

#37 Mike C.

the spill...
now THAT'S a Grimage©®

My, I used to like that Rickman guy...

#29 LOL the flag bumper sticker...

The Lefty-loonies and their grandiose displays of righteousness (how's THAT for a pun... 'Lefty'...'righteous...') are wearing down my last nerve to a bloody stub.

Let's get a whole bunch of American right-wingers to buy tickets for the show and shout out truths about Ms Corrie's demise during the performance, eh?

All the moonbats love her. Didn't Moore dedicate one of his books to her?

What a shame - I used to really enjoy Alan Rickman's work. Now it'll be difficult for me to see beyond the flashing "I'm a useful idiot" sign I'll forevermore see on his forehead. When are actors going to learn that most people really don't care to know about their politics, and that they risk losing public support when they open their mouths on the topic?

#22 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar:
Maybe Parker & Stone (South Park) could do to these fools what they did to Penn, Garafolo, etc., in Team America.

#30 American Soldier:
ROTFLMAO! Such a visual - thanks!

er, that should read, *#33 American Soldier*, not #30

sigh...PIMF...

It would be lovely to gather up a bunch of people, and go all together to the show wearing Caterpillar t-shirts...

#42 Hila:

Yeah, hamsin, so they say.

's all right. up here on the hill top, it never gets unbearable :>)

Went and did the first al ha'esh of the season this weekend. Plan to do it again next Sat.

# 50 FabioC

Don't foget the IHOP ball caps !

#40 SwampWoman

You know one of the other LGFers asked their child "what would you do if you saw a bulldozer heading straight towards you?". The kid answered "run away as fast as I can" (or something like that). I guess human stupidity is really that entertaining.

I don't know that I have any coherently intelligent thoughts to toss at this play. I'm disgusted by continuous sainthood placed on a woman who defended the homes where bombs made to murder Israelis and whoever else was around. I don't think that sainthood should be ascribed to a woman basically complicit in murders.
Too bad someone doesn't do a play about the other Rachels.

OT - I was reading the back of a book at Barnes and Noble yesterday that was written about Israeli Wars. It stated that despite what historians say, the Israeli people were actually very well trained and well equipped to defeat the Arab armies in the 1948 war. I hate to be argumentative (wait, no I don't), but wasn't the Israeli army basically made up of Sabras, Holocaust survivors, and some volunteers? And yet they won, strategy wise. I don't know about you but an army made up for these particular groups of people doesn't sound very impressive to me.

My name is Rachel Corrie. I placed myself in front of a bulldozer, and the evil bulldozer decided to eat me.

OT but of some interest

Squeezed between Burma and Bangladesh, 'descendants' of the Lost Tribes of Israel convert to Judaism

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

...

#52 Mike in VA:

What, stuffed crepes?

#51 GJ

Never gets unbearable? I don't know what I would have done without the air condition. And now there's Pesach...

...

#30

LOLOLOL!
perfect.

# 57 badanov

Boris, is that you ? I got moose - did you get squirrel ?

Sorry, couldn't help myslef.

Sorry for OT, but has anyone more information to this article (it is circulating now all over in Germany and Austria):

Bush administration eliminating 19-year-old international terrorism report

#44 Christheprofessor

They would if you were holding a "Free Palistine!" sign...

I have a low tolerance for idiots. I would be holding a "Level Palestine" sign.

#62 Mike C

Natasha? Izzat you? Good disguise!

Well, I gotta go get some more stuff done, but before I go, just remember, those of you who are bad-mouthing Rachel, she could probably beat EVERYBODY at limbo ! Assuming no planaria were playing, of course.

Dis be Katherin Viner. Editor of the Guardian UK Weekend.

#54 mjk:

Well, first off, the Arab armies of 1948 weren't exactly well-trained and didn't exactly have military geniuses for leaders.

The Arab Legion was largely a mercenary force, so when the going got tough, those guys got going -- well, running.

Many Jews, who managed to make it here, brought combat experience from allied armies or from fighting as partisans.The Jewish fighters were well trained and well motivated.

just the fact that a Jewish soldier at infantry level could read and write and navigate in accordance with a map was several light years beyond the average capacity of the Arab fighters.

#66 Mike C.
That's low.

#54 mjk

The fighters during the independence day war were far from "well equipped", the only weapons shipment came from Czechoslavakia (sp?). The arab armies on the hand had tanks, planes, and artillery. But the arab armies didn't use them effectively. Some of the fighters were well trained since they just came from fighting in WW2 and fighting from the mandate, but there were others that had no training but what they lacked in training they made up in desperation and the will to survive.

The arabs in the independence war were far too over confident. While the arab armies invaded together they didn't fight together. Each one was trying to do a land grab, and the fact was that they had low morale and no will to fight. Simply because they thought it would be a stroll through the park.

It wasn't till the end of the war did Israel finally have a very large amount of troops. But with international pressue (such as britian threatening to bomb Israel if it continued to fight Jordan), the new minted IDF could continue from the cease-fire lines.

Rickman = Herr Hans Gruber = correct

In the 1970's Vanessa Redgrave started talking up the Paelstinians and making hateful noiss about the ISraelis. Ever since I've refused to attend anything she's been involved in. Fortunately, her career nosedived and today she's nothing more than a broken down hack.

If we all work together we can do the same with the likes of Rickman.

#59 Hila:

Never gets unbearable?

Nope, on account of it being app. 103 meters + three stories above sea level.

There's always a good breeze up here.

The view is something else, too.

I can see practically the whole damn country from up here! :>)))

By Grabthar's Hammer, what a putz!

#55 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs 4/17/2005 12:17PM PDT
My name is Rachel Corrie. I placed myself in front of a bulldozer, and the evil bulldozer decided to eat me.

That's it, tell all of the pro-rachel corrie types that betting run over by a bulldozer is just part of the Circle of Life (TM)[Walt Disney].

A T-shirt with this bookcover would be appropriate:
Killdozer

mjk manjer and goloden jerusalem

It comes down to this. The Arabs were fighting for no good reason. The Jews were fighting for their lives. Now, who do you think was more motivated?

er "getting"

Alan Rickman is a pretentious limelight-seeking second-string actor who should stick to making Harry Potter movies.

Any LGFers in Israel should watch channel 2 now. Their is a show on antisemitism at american campuses.

#79 amir

Anti-semitism at college campuses? Surely you jest!

#78 foreign devil

He did OK in "Dogma"- the character had no balls.

Thanks, guys. I was thinking about what I knew of the War in 1948 when I was reading this book and was thinking that something didn't seem quite right. I guess when one thinks about the fact that the Arabs were attempting to finish what Hitler started, the Israelis were definitely more motivated to win the war. Needless to say I didn't buy the book simply because something didn't chime quite right with what little I know about that time period.
I knew this website would teach me stuff.

All the moonbats want to be,
Oh all the moonbats want to be
Rachel Corrie.

#68 Golden Jerusalem

...and well motivated

I would say! Being the only thing between them and your family and them with their backs to the sea would sure tend to motivate one.

#80

I was wrong. That's not the subject, when I turned on th set they were on a college campus, but I think its about anti-semitism in general.

amir:

#76

Sure. E'in vikuach!

#79:

No thanks, I'll pass. I can't watch that crap any more, it's bad for my blood pressure.

#72 GJ

You have breeze and all I have is DUST! It's really awful here. Oh well, 7 more months to go.

#79 Amir

I'm watching it now. Who was that girl? I missed that part.

#63 zuckerlilly

The report has been condemned for years because of the often seemingly capricious determinations of what constituted a terrorist act. Couple that with whether every single attack on our troops in Iraq should be considered a seperate act of terrorism...which such lights as Waxman want...and you get a report that either inaccurate or bloated with with disclaimers.

Obviously if you include every atatck in Iraq as a seperate terrorist incident the numbers would be staggeringly different from pre-2003 levels. Then you look at the al-Quida attacks in other countries, Spain for example, that are linked to the Iraq war...how are _those_ counted?

#87 Hila:

Goin' somewhere?

#86 GJ

You are so right, I've stopped watching it too.

#89 GJ

LOL, no, I'm counting the months till summer is over. You know how long it is in TA.

Have to get some rest. Later, everyone.

How long will it be before "My Name is Rachel Corrie" crosses the Atlantic and comes to HBO or PBS or Broadway or a campus near you?

#91:

Ooooh yeah. Which is why i'm particularly happy about the location of this place. It saves me a bundle as well, as there's no need for A/C in the summer.

Downside is, it gets really damn cold in winter for the same reason that it's pleasant in the summer time.

#35 -- They've cut out the bit where Ford persuades Corrie Prosser to lie down in front of the bulldozer...

# 65 Swamp Woman

Well, I'm glad at least ONE other person on the site was old enough to get that.

Speaking of Tributes to Terror Sympathizers,

The History Channel is airing a show called FDR - A President Revealed tonight.

As the History Channel's blog ads have been featured on both lef-wing and right-wing blogs (DailyKos and Instapundit) viewers will most likely see a program that takes an artificial middle ground in the revealing of FDR.

(I refer to "artificial middle ground" as Hillary-esque)

If YOU want something more closely approximating the truth, something that does not pander to T.V. ratings and both sides of the political spectrum, then a great place to start is the following book:

New Dealers' War: FDR and the War Within World War II
by Thomas Fleming

It helps address questions such as, "Why did FDR allow the Japanese to hit us first?"

#79 amir

The supremicists was really bad. But the self hater kapos was worst, they basically are the propaganda pieces that keep the anti-Israel movement alive and well.

#87 hila

An anti-zionist jew boirn in jerusalem, living in new-york.
Major moonbat.
The interviewer couldn't even talk to her.
The next guest was white supremacist. Much easier to talk to.

GJ

Cripes, you're a measly 100 meters above sea level and you can see the whole country ? That's depressing.

#99 amir

I have to admit the self-hater really screwed when she talked, and she doesn't even listen to herself.

She said that her grand father was "palestinian Jew". So anyone living in that area is a "palestinian" I guess the arguement that the palestinians are different from other arabs went out the window.

#94 GJ

As long as you are happy. ;-)) I guess it could have been worse for me, like living in Eilat. My friend from NYC comes tomorrow, I hope she doesn't get a heart attack.

#100 Mike C:

No, I was exaggerating a bit.

But I can see the Med if i crane my neck a bit to the left, and the hills (1967 "border") to the right.

So I can pretty much see the entire width of the country.

However, the length is probably app. 350-400 miles, so obviously I can't see quite that far.

#71 dai lai lager . ..

In the 1970's Vanessa Redgrave started talking up the Paelstinians and making hateful noiss about the ISraelis. Ever since I've refused to attend anything she's been involved in. Fortunately, her career nosedived and today she's nothing more than a broken down hack.

I remember when that bit** started ragging on Israel. Like you, I would never see any movie she's in. Similarly, today's terrorist-enabling hollywood like Rickman and Penn should be royally boycotted. These creeps should not be encouraged to do further damage.

Quite a few Israeli LGFers here.

We should organize a BBQ sometime :>))

#99 Amir

Thanks. You gotta love those self hating Jews. Sick people. The supremacist annoyed me so I stopped watching.

Oh Grrr! (to quote Golden Jerusalem). I get so furious when I read things like this, even though we should be used to it by now.

4. My Name is Rachel Gavish (killed with her husband and son while at home)

Actually, Rachel Gavish was killed with her husband, her son and her father at home on Passover. Her daughter in law is a good friend of my daughter. They were killed on the second night of Passover, when we were on our way to our daughter's engagement. We couldn't understand where our daughter's friends had all disappeared to, and why they maintained almost complete "radio silence" that night instead of bombarding us with mazaltovs. We had heard the news that night (it's almost the 3rd anniversary now) on the radio on our way up to Jerusalem, but with no names mentioned. It's funny, we heard on the news the announcement of the attack in Elon Moreh, and our daughter said out of the blue "I hope it's not Racheli's family". However her hopes were not fulfilled. Not that it would have been any better if it had been anyone else...

From the Steven Plaut link

Palestinian Authority Buys Fleet of Designer Cars

In what amounts to a stinging slap in the face to the beleaguered
Palestinian people, the Palestinian Authority [PA] has rewarded itself by purchasing a fleet of high-end Audi automobiles.

Eighty-six PA legislators will each recieve a $45,000 Audi A4 and each of the PA's 24 ministers will receive a $76,000 Audi A6.

We've sent--and are sending--these terrorists in suits far far too much money.

#105 GJ

That's a great idea! As long there's A/C. :-)))

#107 Annie:

I'm so terribly sorry to hear that.

It brings home the way our losses are trampled in the most obscene manner by people sympathising the terrorists.

#88 Quilly Mammoth 4/17/2005 12:40PM PDT

Thank you for the answer, it helped a lot ;-)))

93-

By the time it gets to the US, it'l be a rap musical.

"My name is [splat!] my name is [splat!] my name is [uh-huh] my name is [splat!]"

#98 manker . . .

The supremicists was really bad. But the self hater kapos was worst, they basically are the propaganda pieces that keep the anti-Israel movement alive and well.

Yes. These sicko self-hating types need to be ridiculed out of business. They're disgusting. Even my own freaking family has a few. :(

#108 Spiritualized

We've sent--and are sending--these terrorists in suits far far too much money.

And then they use it to buy German cars. Then again, they probably have a longing for all things German.

#114 Belize:

Don't knock German cars:

BMW M3 CSL

That thing makes me droool...

#110 GJ

Yes, you're so right. I don't know about you, but we know so many people who've been hurt or killed in these last few years. Where is all the world sympathy for them? Oh, sorry, they don't count, they're only Israelis/Jews. Grrr! (I know, I'm repeating myself!)

Where are you, north or south? Daughter is now married and far north (K8). We are central region (near Hila I guess).

#54 mjk- The Jewiush population at the time of the war was about 600,000. About 18,000 died at at least twice that number were injured.

Israel won because the Arabs were not very well led, (the Jordanians did have British officers), and were not fighting for their lives. The Jews were. In modern warefare, the defender has an advantage and most attacks require a 3-1 advantage to succeed (absent precision munitions etc.). Israel had short lines of suply and communication and coule move troops from one hot spot to the next.

Anti-Israel scholars love lying about the '48 war, their favorite lies are:
--Israel had more tanks and armored vehicles (this is my favorite lie, the method of its creation is the fact that Israel had jury rig metal plates onto the sides of supply tucks to feed Jersualem- in the hands of a reconstructing deconstructionist falsifier, viola an armored vehicle- Israel had virtually no tanks and almost no air support throughout the war- one real tank could have blown apart the entire Jerusalem supply effort).

--Deir Yassin was a massacre (somehow almost twenty Israeli soldiers died in the "massacre"- is there a more famous massacre in history in which more of the supposed perpetrators dies?).

--The western powers helped Israel (I know Jews who broke American law to fund, purchase and deliver weapons to Israel, Great Britain's officers were advisors to and leading Arab units).

#22 - Joshua.

They already did. It was called Team America, and it was hilarious.

#116 annie

Where is all the world sympathy for them?

It's not PC to feel sympathy for them.

I wish that some group in the UK would picket that stinking theater carrying "My Name is Rachel" signs showing the Rachels murdered by the Palestinian terrorists Corrie was advocating. Even better if they can have photographs of their beauitful faces on the signs.

#116 annie:

I'm in Givataim, wedged in between TA and Ramat Gan.

I haven't suffered personal losses as a result of terrorist attacks, but every time it happens I share the grief, as we all do in our own way, I guess.

We are all together in this.

London theater huh? What do you expect with a commie mayor...Next in lights...Death of a Salesman, Death of a Plumber, Death of a Steelworker, Death of a Coalminer, Death of a Trotsky...joe djugashvili.

Just got through weed wacking my ridge here...Damn all to hell I hate that. Do you know how long nylon cutting cord lasts when you cut rocks? Not f***ing long!

#110 Golden Jerusalem

One point I make to people when discussing the situation there is the incredible restraint the Isrealis have. I ask people to consider how they would act if you knew, or were related to, someone who was murdered by terrorists; if _everyone you knew_ also knew or was related to a victim of terrorism. How would you react?

What would an American President be forced to do, by public demand, if almost every American knew or was related to someone killed by a terrorist? Other than the far, far Left there would be very few demands for restraint.

I don't think most Americans or Europeans understand the degree to which violence has touched the life of so very many Israelis. Intellectually I am aware of it yet I don't think that I can come close to understanding the emotional impact for Israelis.

IIRC I read it would take something lke 3,000,000 American victims to have that same impact statistically on the American Population. It is unthinkable.

It's interesting to see how some people resemble the characters theyplay in movies. He was an ultra left uber terrorist von beruff (had to throw in the German:) in Die Hard and in real life he supports them.

#126 Rayra

I'm going to take a bag of fruit-flavord antacids to snack on, and attend a weekday matinee so my outraged outbursts don't disturb too many people.
It's a very Douglas-Adams-like Irony that they made this (expected) pile AFTER his death. No doubt he is somewhere angrily stomping in a tiny circle.

Ooooh, good idea! Yes, Tums and Raisinettes. Too bad they don't sell beer. Maybe I'll just bring a large purse.

#124 ElCid

I got me one o' them DR lawntrimmer thangs with the wheels. Nanner nanner nanner!

Swamp Woman

Those little plastic airline bottles are perfect for dumping in a drink. Lemonade Slurpee with a few minis of Grey Goose should take the edge off!

#131 Quilly Mammoth

Those little plastic airline bottles are perfect for dumping in a drink. Lemonade Slurpee with a few minis of Grey Goose should take the edge off!

GOOD idea! The nearest movie theater is 35 miles from my home and depending on which one I go to, I have to pass 2 or more police stations.

I suppose I could spend the rest of the afternoon shopping while somewhat less than sober, but have you ever noticed that things wildly attractive during the somewhat less than sober stage can haunt you later?

129 SwampWoman

I got me one o' them DR lawntrimmer thangs with the wheels. Nanner nanner nanner!

Well now ain't that just damn grand...ifin' I was still smokin', I could light my ciggies, when she sparked as I cut these god damn rocks...:-).

22 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar 4/17/2005 11:47AM PDT

Someone should put together a farce making fun of all of the useful idiots. There's SO much material, it could be hillarious. I think it could have a huge audience.

It's been done -- was called "Team America." It did take some shots at the right, but it really ripped on the moonbat left, esp. the Hollywood scum.

#35 Swamp Woman

I couldn't handle a bad HHGG movie either.

The book should become part of the new Western Canon of literature.

My 11 year old just read it and wrote a report on it for his 6th grade language arts class. His "teacher" (term used very loosely) is too damned PC to have either read the book herself or have a sense of humor - she graded him down to a "B" because she says it isn't Science Fiction. I'll be talking to her on monday.

You know what? It just hit me that this is the Alan Rickman of Galaxy Quest. I LOVED that stupid movie. I don't think I can ever watch it again now. I just read up on his background. Not a hard life despite the early death of his father. So what got under his britches to make an assinine play like this?

#134 ElCid

Well now ain't that just damn grand...ifin' I was still smokin', I could light my ciggies, when she sparked as I cut these god damn rocks...:-).

Got some real, real heavy duty nylon string fer it, too. Not just the sawblade. No sparks, can't light no ciggies.

#125 Quilly Mammoth:

Good post and some valid points.

I honestly believe we have to be better than our enemies, even if it means showing restraint at time where your blood boils and you cry for revenge.

That said, the security barrier has done wonders for the security situation.

I remember back in 2002, culminating around Pesach, almost exactly three years ago, we had 150 of our fellow citizens murdered and countless hundreds injured and traumatized for life in the span of less than a month.

Imagine that 150/6,000,000

The US "equivalent" would be 7,500 killings in a month!

The My Name is Rachel Campaign

t-shirts, posters, rallys showing the real victims of terrorism that St. Pancake enabled to be murdered with her help

They want to play with the minds of the people via the media let's turn this against them

Speaking of books, a funny thing is that often Fantasy and Science Fiction are grouped together. What has The Lord Of The Rings to do with Arthur C. Clarke for example?

I watched The Meaning Of Life last night, and boy if it was scorching humor!

#136 karmic inquisitor

My 11 year old just read it and wrote a report on it for his 6th grade language arts class. His "teacher" (term used very loosely) is too damned PC to have either read the book herself or have a sense of humor - she graded him down to a "B" because she says it isn't Science Fiction. I'll be talking to her on monday.

Oh, fer cryin' out loud! Which section of the library does she think it came from, biographies?

#118 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Can you give me some sources (websites or books) to read about deir yassin.

At first I learned it was a massacre, but then I read first hand accounts. And honestly I don't know many massacres where guys get shot at by Iraqi soldiers.

#126 Rayra -

The irony is worthy of Marvin - "Of course they did a lousy job of it. To expect more would require a stretch into optimism that might permanently reduce me to a vegetative state. Perhaps that might make for some welcome relief."

# 108

Look on the bright side. That's targeting information.

#138 Swamp Woman

A few years ago, those weed-whackers (?) became almost a fad in Italy: everyone had one, and they even used it to trim english lawns - with catastrophic results, of course. I have a nice electric one.

#143 SwampWoman -

Oh, fer cryin' out loud! Which section of the library does she think it came from, biographies?

I can only guess at this point. Perhaps "inappropriate" or "not sufficiently feminist" or "lacks oppressed minority hero."

#123 Golden J

I'm in Givataim

Ha! funny that, we're neighbours! Petach Tikva here. I had the impression you were in the Golan or somewhere. What hills do you have, lucky you? Sweltering in the Sharon plain here!

#125 QM

What would an American President be forced to do, by public demand,

Didn't that happen after 9/11? Only the far (and not so far left) jumped down his throat almost immediately. I don't think anything can make them see reason, unless it's a terrorist with a gun to their head.

OK, it's late here off to bed now.

#140 GJ

That said, the security barrier has done wonders for the security situation.

Think how many lives could have been saved if only they had built it sooner.

# 115 GJ

Don't knock German cars ? If you can get one, take a look at the April 2005 issue of "Consumer Reports', their annual auto issue. Every single Mercedes that's rateable (CR doesn't rate new models with no track record), had a worse than average or much worse than average reliability rating. Then look at Subarus. Forget the Bimmer - think about the 300 bhp WRX - far better for dirt roads and similar conditions anyway.

#144 manker:

I think that part of the reason why the Arabs were successful at passing Deir Yassin off as a massacre was the fact that most of the Arab fighters were in civvy garb and hid out in civvy houses, etc.

Thinking about it, their preferred MO hasn't changed much.

Anyways, therefore all pictures taken of the dead and so on appeared to be of civilians, which was definitely NOT the case -- on the contrary.

Here's the al-Guardian journalist who wrote the play:

katharine.viner@guardian.co.uk

Here's an article from 2001 when she's virtually pleasuring herself as she describes a Palestinian hijacker:

In a way, the whole story is in the ring. The iconic photograph of Leila Khaled, the picture which made her the symbol of Palestinian resistance and female power, is extraordinary in many ways: the gun held in fragile hands, the shiny hair wrapped in a keffiah , the delicate Audrey Hepburn face refusing to meet your eye. But it's the ring, resting delicately on her third finger. To fuse an object of feminine adornment, of frivolity, with a bullet: that is Khaled's story, the reason behind her image's enduring power. Beauty mixed with violence.

I now have to go clean the vomit from my keyboard.

#149 Annie:

Geva-taim. LOL. Two Hills, or Twin Peaks, if you will.

I'm at an altitude of app. 338 feet + I'm on the third floor, so on a clear day, if you wave from your window, i might just see ya in the distance, LOL!

#147 Fabio

A few years ago, those weed-whackers (?) became almost a fad in Italy: everyone had one, and they even used it to trim english lawns - with catastrophic results, of course. I have a nice electric one.

I am thinking about getting one of those reel hand-powered mowers to trim our yard with (front yard is an acre in size). I figure that in the 95 degree F temps and 100% humidity, I should lose about 10 lbs. (temporarily) every time I mowed the grass. Husband thinks I will drop down dead. We will see.

GJ and manker

The Jews, both from the Irgun and Haganah were interested in it being portraid as a masacre. Each for their own reasons.

Mike C. I don't have conaumer reports. What do they say about Subaru? I need to replace my fifteen year old Honda Civic. I bought it new 360,000 kilometers ago.

#153 Spiritualized

Ah, another case of a nihilist admiring terrorists for aesthetic reasons. Those are people I really despise - and a bit fear, too, because if they were in power God knows what atrocities may conjure up.

#151 Mike C.:

Yeah, but didya get a load of the Beemer?

That car is a monster, i tells ya. It's brutal performance, you should hera the engine rev, it's pure and absolute brutality disgised underneath the rather deceptively civil 3-series look.

Anyways, I think the car costs like $130,000 (in the UK), so I suspect it'll remain forever a dream.

#152 Golden Jerusalem

I think that part of the reason why the Arabs were [almost] successful at passing [Jenin] off as a massacre was the fact that most of the Arab fighters were in civvy garb and hid out in civvy houses, etc.

I think those two little adjustments makes all the difference.

#148 karmic inquisitor

I can only guess at this point. Perhaps "inappropriate" or "not sufficiently feminist" or "lacks oppressed minority hero."

My daughter was readin' the Anne Rice Vampire novels in the 6th grade. Too bad she didn't get to do a book report on those!

138 SwampWoman

Got some real, real heavy duty nylon string fer it, too. Not just the sawblade. No sparks, can't light no ciggies.

I'll have to check that damn thang out then..hell I thought all that was, was a tall saw...LOL.

P.S. Did ya' see my long ass explanation, of why I'm in Tennessee...and still speak of Florida?
___

147 Fabio

A few years ago, those weed-whackers (?) became almost a fad in Italy: everyone had one, and they even used it to trim english lawns - with catastrophic results, of course. I have a nice electric one.

Only thing "english" about my "lawn", is quite a few four letter words...but the mental picture of what you said...is a damn hoot...LOL.

#150 Hila:

Think how many lives could have been saved if only they had built it sooner

It's true.

On the other hand, you can go further back and say: Think how many lives coulda been saved had Rabin not been pressured/ suckered into the whole Oslo debacle.

#160 manker:

I think that part of the reason why the Arabs were [almost] successful at passing [Jenin] off as a massacre was the fact that most of the Arab fighters were in civvy garb and hid out in civvy houses, etc.

And again, i must respond:

Thinking about it, their preferred MO hasn't changed much.

155 SwampWoman

Husband thinks I will drop down dead.

Who'll cut the damn yard then, huh?...LOL.

#161 Swampwoman

My daughter was readin' the Anne Rice Vampire novels in the 6th grade. Too bad she didn't get to do a book report on those!

LOL. (BTW, my son is mildly dyslexic but has a great sense of humor - he would type "LLO")

#154 GJ

if you wave from your window, i might just see ya in the distance, LOL!

LOL! I'm waving, I'm waving! Can you see me? It's a clear night. I'm in the house with the half dead geraniums in the window boxes. (Green things keel over and die when I look at them.)

layla tov :-)

#131 Quilly Mammoth

Those little plastic airline bottles are perfect for dumping in a drink. Lemonade Slurpee with a few minis of Grey Goose should take the edge off!

I like the way yer thinking, Quilly, but surely you can find a vodka less Froggy.

Interesting OT:

Ex-deputy FBI chief: Israel leads world in counter-terrorism

Today I saw bags of runner beans from the farms of the Jordan Valley, and the label said something like "vegetables under pressure"... sounds funny.

#167 annie:

LOL. Laila tov -- ve Chag sameach!

166 karmic_inquisitor

mildly dyslexic

Dyslexics of the World Untie...:).

P.S. So am I...OR if you choose So ma I

#115 Golden Jerusalem

I don't mean to knock German cars, because I agree they make some luscious ones. But I really couldn't consider sending money toward Munich or Stuttgart until Germany becomes a true ally in the war on terrorists.

And now Hans Gruber is an asshat! Fer crying out loud.

Right, ya'll,

I gotta head off and watch "Top Gear" and drool over yet more cars I'll never be able to afford.

G'nite!

# 156 amir

Every single Subaru that's rated is either "recommended" or "Top Pick in Class." All are either 'better than average' or 'much better than average' in reliability. The 300 bhp WRX is noted as a 'bargain for high powered sports cars.' Read tests from magazines concerned more with handling, power and such, and you'll find the WRX kicking Audi and BMW all over the freaking landscape, and at 1/3 less money. The wife has an Outback Ltd. Wagon (2000) and the older daughter has an Outback (they dropped the 'Ltd.' part) sedan (2002 ?). They are superb all-weather cars (it snows here). It is very hard to buy a used one here in norhern VA, as owners simply don't sell them. Note - the Outbacks are NOT small cars. My wife's wagon is a couple hundred pounds heavier and 10" longer than the 95 4-door Cherokee Sport the younger daughter drives. Me, I seem to be stuck with The Mighty Geo forever. Sigh.

#162 ElCid

P.S. Did ya' see my long ass explanation, of why I'm in Tennessee...and still speak of Florida?

Uh huh. You up there in the high cotton and are too important for us crackers.

#177 Mike C

Me, I seem to be stuck with The Mighty Geo forever. Sigh.

Yeah, but you always out gallivantin' all over the world! You don't give the Mighty Geo a chance to wear out.

#163 GJ

True, but still, the only reason it took so long was due to political disagreement.

Night, I'm off to bed too. :-)

If anyone still doesn't think that we are in a war with Islamicists, and that Rachel Corrie et al were actually traitors, check out this site. It doesn't even include the thousands killed in Israel!

www.ashland.edu?~jlewis8/TerrorChronology

or

[Link: personal.ashland.edu...]

# 159 GJ

Check out the show vehicle Jeep is trotting around the cicuit this year. Dual engines, about 650 bhp, and 4 wheel steering to the point where it can do a 360 IN IT'S OWN LENGTH ! OK, so they've only built one, but that's just as obtainable to me as a $ 130,000 anything. Drive a cheap car, and supplement it with an H-D, that's my mottoe.

Golden Jerusalem,

Quite a few Israeli LGFers here.

We should organize a BBQ sometime :>))

After Pesach we really should.

#177
Thanks Mike.
Many years ago Subaro had cornered the Israeli market, and it was the only market that it had cornered. It was the only Japanese car sold in Israel since the others were 'fraid of upsetin' the Arabs. Then came Mitsubishi, which for some reason Israelis call Mutsibushi. and in 1990 came Honda, but only American made Hondas (from Ohio), and then the rest.

Looks like Snape is still a Death Eater after all.

Are they serving pancakes with maple syrup at intermission?

# 179 Swamp Woman

I assure you, "galivanting around the world" loses it's attraction PDQ. Then it's just commuting to work. It might be more attractive if business didn't consistently take me to the armpits of the earth. For the most part, I don't get to go to those touristy places others visit. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico, as an example, but have never been anywhere near Cancun and those other resort locations. But you're right about one thing - The Mighty Geo sure ain't wearing out very fast. Still less than 36,000 miles on it, and it's a 96 I bought used in 98 with 12,000 miles already on it.

There was an Israeli general...I think it was Moshe Dayan, he had a black patch on one of his eyes...who was asked how he became such a successful general and he said, "Fight Arabs."

See ya GJ and Hila

178 SwampWoman

Uh huh. You up there in the high cotton and are too important for us crackers.

Shit...yeah right. The more ya' make, the more god damn child predators I get to pay for, while these silly leftist bastards, try to rehibilitate the freaks that should be dead..save everyone, time, money and more deaths.

Hopefully, numerous non-paying attendees bearing bullhorns and lists of the other Rachels will descend on this production to provide balance.

#187 Mike C

36,0000 miles? THAT'S IT? You got a brand new car there!

Used to put 40,000 a year easily on the company trucks; by the time they were paid for, they were ready for new engines.

#189 ElCid

Shit...yeah right. The more ya' make, the more god damn child predators I get to pay for, while these silly leftist bastards, try to rehibilitate the freaks that should be dead..save everyone, time, money and more deaths.

You won't get no argument from me about that one.

OT - We almost forgot about the KLM flight from Amsterdam to Mexico City that was turned back last week due to suspected terrorists on board...

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Excerpt:-- "Some counterterrorism officials worry that the Saudi brothers could be living double lives. One of the Saudis lived in the United States for at least 14 years and took an engineering degree at Arizona State University. A former neighbor of his in Tempe remembers him as "really nice." But another former Arizona neighbor recalls that a day or two after 9/11, the normally self-contained Saudi was behaving oddly. "He was wearing a wide grin. He said, 'Hi, Neighbor, isn't it a great day?' It seemed inappropriate." Other intelligence officials say if the two were indeed part of a Qaeda operation, it is no surprise their destination was Mexico City. U.S. officials fear that Latin America, and more particularly Mexico—with its porous U.S. border—may become a staging ground for Al Qaeda. The big question is, wherever the next threat comes from, will authorities be able to spot it in time? The possibilities for mistaken identity are many, but the room for error is very, very narrow."

...Or is it that MSM doesn't consider terrorism and our porous borders a threat?

# 191 Swamp Woman

Yeah, well remember, it IS a Geo Metro, rumored to essentially disintegrate at roughly 50,000 miles. Those hamsters don't live forever, you know. Of course, that does mean that at my current rate of racking up mileage, I've got about 4 more years of driving it.

I am reminded of fight club.

His Name is Robert Paulsen
His Name is Robert Paulsen

How hilarious would it be if moonbats started chanting "Her Name is Rachel Corrie" I might just fall out of my chair.

How long has Rachel Corrie been dead? How many more times is her image going to be resurrected by various left-leaning death worshippers? Love her or hate her, I've been wondering why lefties don't let her rest in peace. Then I realize that this really is not about a young woman getting run over by a bulldozer. This is about hating Israel.

#125 Quilly Mammoth

What would an American President be forced to do, by public demand, if almost every American knew or was related to someone killed by a terrorist? Other than the far, far Left there would be very few demands for restraint.

But that's the scariest thing -- I think that virtually every American is just "one degree of separation" away from that. I live in a small town in the rural midwest, yet I certainly know multiple people who lost friends or family on 9/11. This is why it is inconceivable to me that so much of the country seems to have just shrugged the whole thing off.

cathy :-)

...another israeli lgf'er here, ... been out of touchwith you all because of the birth of kiddie number three.
and i love a good al ha esh.
zulubaby, can you drop me an e-mail?i lost all of your contact info.. wrote it on a take away pizza flyer, and threw it away by accident.. oops.

Target... er Rachel was almost unknown. Until the blitz! Can we let the stupid bitch die now?

Well..I see that while I was making munchies and drinks for the folks who came over this afternoon to our house to discuss the funding of our youngest son's private Catholic school, you guys were having a ball slaying the dragons of the world. :)

Good to know you are out there!

If any LGF'ers are in the NE Ohio area (east side of Cleveland), and don't want to cook tonight, want some decent food and good company, let me know.

The only problem is that it's looking pretty grey out outside.

lizzy, I just sent you an e-mail ...

she was half tracked.

second thought,
might have been the whole track.

#198 lizzy

...another israeli lgf'er here, ... been out of touchwith you all because of the birth of kiddie number three.

Mazel tov, and good to hear from you :-)

#195 ch3cooh

And how cool would it be if the first rule was: You don't talk about St. Pancake.

198 lizzy

Congratulations

Oh and this...

can you drop me an e-mail?i lost all of your contact info.. wrote it on a take away pizza flyer, and threw it away by accident.. oops.

Ummm...I tell everyone that, as well...:).

Yemen Warns of Secret Extremist Schools

Underground religious schools that promote extremist forms of Islam are drawing more than 300,000 young students across Yemen, the country's prime minister said Saturday.

Prime Minister Abdul-Kader Bajammal warned that the religious education promoting the ideas of Wahhabism, a strict form of Islam, "will bring a disaster to Yemen and this generation." He promised to eliminate the underground schools, which he estimated numbered about 4,000 and drew about 330,000 students.

"We are not against the religious education ... but we are against extremism," he said in a speech to teachers and Education Ministry officials.

Bajammal said that the government will not remain silent over what he described as "crimes committed against our children and the next generations."

Wahhabism? The Saudis surely wouldn't have anything to do with this, would they? Cut off the head of the snake.

Criticism Sparks Kuwaiti Writer's Return

His subject — Islamic instruction in schools — was the same that led fundamentalists to sue him for mocking Islam. He was convicted to a one year suspended sentence and a $6,825 fine, also suspended. In its verdict, the Appeals Court said a deposit for the fine would be confiscated if he were to commit the same crime again.

"I am holding my ground (armed with) my reason, my pen and my learning," he wrote in his column Saturday.

A week after the ruling against him, al-Baghdadi said writing in fear was impossible and that legal battles had broken his pen, his only weapon to fight for freedom of expression.

The court ruled a June 5, 2004, column had made "derogatory" comments about Islam by linking terrorism and "backward thinking" to religious classes at state schools.

He had written then that he'd sent his son to an expensive foreign school rather than a state school because he did not want "ignorant" teachers to instruct him "how to disrespect women and non-Muslims." Such teaching could lead his son to terrorism, he'd written then.

Al-Baghdadi took a similar stab in Saturday's column, quoting from a religion textbook required for Muslims in state and private schools. The book calls on Muslims to stay united because if they don't "Satan will be pleased and will send his followers, the devils, to spread corruption and havoc on earth," he said.

#207 zulubaby

At least they're "underground" schools now, instead of mainstream, openly funded and hateful madrassas. Could this at least be the birth of Islamic shame?

Dear karmic_inquisitor,

1. Ask your child for a copy of the actual assignment. If he doesn't have it, ask the teacher for it first.
2. Check the call number on the book. I found this listing:

Author Adams, Douglas, 1952-
Title The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy / Douglas Adams
Publisher New York : Harmony Books, 1980, c1979
Edition 1st American ed

Description 215 p. ; 20 cm
L.c. subject Prefect, Ford (Fictitious character) -- Fiction
Dent, Arthur (Fictitious character) -- Fiction
Genre/form Humorous stories.
Science fiction.
ISBN 0802409745 (pbk.) :
0517542099
LCCN 80014572
LC CALL NO. PR6051.D3352 H5 1980
PR6051.D3352 H5 1980
Dewey call # 823/.914

at [Link: summit.orbiscascade.org...]

3. Ask for the objective grading criteria, such as a rubric. If there isn't one, ask her for an explanation of her assessment.

4. If you child's essay is well-written, with minimal spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors, accurately covers the book, and is the required length and earned a B because it "wasn't science fiction," insist that she revise the grade for an A. Appeal to the principal if necessary. If this women is grading on what she "feels," she needs to be sorted out.

The only caveat I offer is that your child may have not shared the whole story, so be open to the teacher's side. When parents ask to meet with me, I always want the student there, too, so that any misunderstandings can be resolved.

I wish you every success--I can't stand bad teachers.

Powderfinger, I don't think shame has anything to do with it. They're underground for their own purposes -- to get their claws in deep.

My Name is Rachel Corrie.

'I' once stood in front of a Killdozer.

# 207 zulubaby

Exactly how would one bring disaster to Yemen ? I mean, for crying out loud, it's already Yemen.

Meanwhile, I'll be in conclave this week handing out goodie bags and running for pope. Wish me well!

#155 SwampWoman

I am thinking about getting one of those reel hand-powered mowers to trim our yard with (front yard is an acre in size). I figure that in the 95 degree F temps and 100% humidity, I should lose about 10 lbs. (temporarily) every time I mowed the grass. Husband thinks I will drop down dead. We will see.

When I was a kid in Abilene Texas, I cut grass with one of those. It.was.a.bitch.

Exactly how would one bring disaster to Yemen ? I mean, for crying out loud, it's already Yemen.

LMAO!

#207 zulubaby

"Cut off the head of the snake. "

You are spot on.

I grew up in Thailand and our "rule of thumb" for survival was to kill the snake (damn things would get into the homes especially in rainy season) and check the marking(s) after the fact.

The problem seems to be that we have many snakes to go after now with some countries calling them anything but snakes.

tell me this aint so please

[Link: www.militantislammonitor.org...]

#132 Rayra 4/17/2005 01:28PM PDT

nothing, other than to say you certainly aren't going to get anything BUT LLLib spin from Knight-Ridder and (D)umbass Waxman.

You are right, but that´s no argumentation ;-)) - though I do it sometimes too. *gg*

#211 zulubaby

I would have figured they'd accomplished that a long time ago.

We have no grass. No rain. No grass.

ooops just seen its satire. was truly frightened for a minute there

Karmic/ Goddess:

Hmmm... Maybe it was too "Science Fantasy". You know: not enough hard science. LOL. I don't know. Sounds like a mis-understanding of some sort...

BG

No Grass? Well, there's still booze, right?

# 224 Tanker JD

Heh. Remember, Freewheeling Franklin sez "Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope !"

Alan Rickman, whose idea it was to turn Rachel's work into drama, says: "We were never going to paint Rachel as a golden saint or sentimentalise her, but we also needed to face the fact that she'd been demonised. We wanted to present a balanced portrait."

Um, when you enable terrorists, Mr. Rickman, you kind of are a demon. At least in the opinion of right-thinking people everywhere.

#221 Bubble Girl

Dang, girlfriend - you need to move to NE Ohio. We have "weather" here.

It was sunny, then it rained for a bit, then it got sunny again and now it's overcast.

We may be one of the few states where the weather-men/women can be wrong most of the time and still keep their jobs.

Mike C., LOL!

rightymouse, everywhere you look, the Saudis are at the center. Until they are slapped into shape, this "extremism" will continue to spread. They are all over the US. By the time we woke up to the threat they pose, we were already far too tangled up in their web.

Powderfinger, I don't know much about Yemen but the Saudis are sly and they have patience. If it's coming to light now it means they've been funding mosques, etc. in Yemen for years already.

zing

214 Jimmy

The Mobile Cheeseburger should just hang it up. He's had his run. Everyone now knows he's a hypocritical "giant socialist weasel" (in the words of that marionette movie).

His "next step". LOL. I got a suggestion for him - how but A step. Then another, then another. In quick succession. Maybe he'd lose some of the ginourmous gut that way!

And just like his smarmy, obnoxious self to say he's going to be in conclave running for pope. How disgusting!

221 Bubble Girl

We have no grass. No rain. No grass.

I don't have grass, either...only damn thing that grows from rocks is/are weeds..amazing...

"The Truth About Cats And Dogs" is a very clever movie, good script. I can't watch it now because Janeane Garofolo stars in it.

Do I have to abandon Harry Potter, too? Altho after today Rickman is more Snape-like than I wouldn't have imagined.

Can't these people just shut up and sing?

mike c

Fat Freddy and the Freak Brothers...

Tanker Jd

Plenty of booze by the pool...

ElCid @ 231

You in the desert too?

#127 bombarafat . . .

It's interesting to see how some people resemble the characters theyplay in movies. He was an ultra left uber terrorist von beruff (had to throw in the German:) in Die Hard and in real life he supports them.

I found the second installment of The Lord of the Rings (The Two Towers) absolutely frightening because it seemed to represent so well the dangers of the spread of Islamofascism. Was I surprised when the "hero" I-forget-his-name who played Aragorn turned out to be a triple LLL--an LLL cubed.

What did this idiot Vigo Mortgenson(?) think the movie was all about? How could this idiot be in three movies devoted to the fight for freedom and not understand the plot?

?

Sleep time. Night guys.

rightymouse...

Someday when you have nothing to read try The Cadillac Desert... it will scare the bejesus out of anyone living on the western side of the Rockies and along the Permian Basin... water is about to be as or more precious than oil out here..

BG rightymouse

$2.50/ gallon. That's about what Evian runs, isn't it?

# 228 zulubaby

Actually, for a lot of years, what the Saudis were funding there was the South Yemeni military. Remember, there was a long-running civil war there, and at one time there was North Yemen and South Yemen, North Yemen being the only communist Arab country that ever existed. The Saudis (and others) funneled money to South Yemen, not for any religious purposes, but rather to hold the communists at bay. But Yemen has always been considered just about the absolute bottom of the barrel in the Arab world (think about that for a moment), even amongst the Arabs themselves. Even today, Yemenis are looked down on throughout the Arabian penninsula, and treated (as immigrants) as just cheap labor like Pakistanis, etc. There is also a lot of fundamentalist resentment of the Yemenis seemingly incureable insistance on chewing Qat, which puts them at odds with most of the muslim world. Truly a strange place.

# 233 BG

Uh, that's the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers. Details, details...

Check this out:

and don't miss the comments.

Oy.

I certainly understand the need to have a laugh at the expense of those who wish us harm (e.g. St. Pancake) on occasion.

But given that she was never actually bulldozed, but just struck by the blade of the bullzoder (the blade was raised up, which was one of the main reasons the driver couldn't see the little terrorist sympathizer *er, I mean beace lover*), aren't we helping spread the balestinian brobaganda by continuing the myth of her being flattened?

Just wondering. In the meantime, it's certainly funny stuff, 'cuz when evil people (or the eternally stupid who aid and abet them) leave this earth, shedding a tear is the furthest thing from my mind.

237 BG

water is about to be as or more precious than oil out here..

There is still plenty of inexpensive land available in Michigan's UP, and there is plenty of water. Superior alone has enough water to cover the 48 states, 4' deep. (It does get kinda cold in the winter though..)

OT, but WoT--

Anyone else been watching "24" on Fox?

It's first-rate. Tomorrow night at 9:00--the moslem terrorists have blown up Air Force One, the president's in critical condition, and they've hijacked a nuclear warhead...

Tight, tense plot, scarily realistic. AND they don't whitewash the enemy.

I've missed some of the earlier episodes, but tuned in a couple of weeks ago. And hey, CAIR hates it! :-)))

Rachel Levy, Rachel Thaler, Rachel Levi, Rachel Gavish, Rachel Charhi, Rachel Shabo

I see these names and I wish I was 27 again and had another chance with Christy. So that we could have lots of babies and give them these names.

#242

aren't we helping spread the balestinian brobaganda by continuing the myth of her being flattened?

Does Balestinian bropaganda require any sort of help/basis/facts/reality to be treated as Allah's own truth?

Uh, no.

Somebody upthread mentioned Moshe Dayan. You know, the dude with the eyepatch. He totally looked like a pirate. That's all I got - it amuses me.

I totally know about banning movies and such because of actors and their stupid opinions. I loved "Robin Hood - Prince of Thieves" and "Love Actually". Now, won't ever see either of them in all their cheesy glory.

Since I'm back from buying assorted household goods, I have one thing to say (just one! probably not). I was thinking about that book I was browsing when this whole conversation about the war of independence started up. It's so strange how books like this crop up, determined to make the Israelis sound so much stronger than they really were. How they had such great armaments and such. How the war was a huge cake walk for the Israelis, when clearly it wasn't. It's very odd and disconcerting.

#22

Someone should put together a farce making fun of all of the useful idiots. There's SO much material, it could be hillarious. I think it could have a huge audience.

Where's IOWAHAWK?

243 mich-again

Shush --don't be telling folks about my water!

True though, there isn't just alot of it, it's clean enough to drink right out of the lake.

I don't, I have an artesian spring well.

#243 mich-again

Kentucky has more miles of rivers and streams than any other state. If water becomes an expensive commodity, Kentucky will exceed both the gold rush and the Texas oil boom, by a thousand.

#228 zulubaby

"everywhere you look, the Saudis are at the center. Until they are slapped into shape, this "extremism" will continue to spread. They are all over the US. By the time we woke up to the threat they pose, we were already far too tangled up in their web."

I totally agree.

The problem I see is that even our own government (U.S.) isn't willing to see the Saudis as "snakes" that need heads cut off.

Would we be too simplistic in thinking that if we depended on our own oil reserves, thereby reducing the oil dependency on the ME, that the Islamfication agenda would go away?

I think it's bigger than oil. But I could be wrong.

That said, I do think the U.S. needs to revisit the position on Saudi Arabia.

Another talented actor, guilt-riddeny by their wealth and fame, latches onto the wrong cause, for the wrong reason, in the wrong time. Why am I not surprised?

#155 SwampWoman

Search Insta-pundit for info on Reel mowers. He's been mower-blogging of late.

One acre with a reel mower? Maybe if you cut it every other day...

#238 Tanker J.D.

I paid $2.01 this afternoon.

There actually has been talk about piping Lake Superior water out west and Canada wanted to sell it overseas.

For now there is a 5 year moraturium on that --to study the long term consequences.

A large percentage of the water in the lower great lakes comes from Superior. Twice a year they open the Soo locks to raise the lake levels of the lower great lakes.

To Tell The Truth

My name is Rachel Corrie and I'm an unwitting tool for the ISM.

My name is Rachel Corrie and I'm an unwitting tool for the ISM.

My name is Rachel Corrie and I'm an unwitting tool for the ISM.

Will the real Rachel Corrie please stand up?

#237 Bubble Girl

Lived in the LA area for about 10 years, so I know what you're talking about.

That said, never could figure out why people had homes on dry hills (i.e. Malibu) that were destroyed every year by rain.

I make fun of Ohio weather, but it's "tongue-in-cheek" stuff.

As for reading, I usually have two or three going at the same time. Am finishing a book on Stalin by Edvard Radzinsky and the other one is "The Case for Democracy" by Natan Sharansky.

#228 zulubaby

Every Saudi I chat with knows that they need to be slapped into shape. The problem starts when we discuss which side needs to do the slapping.

An invasion of KSA by a western Army would ignite suicide bombers in massive waves instead of the ugly trickle like in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I'm with you. Untill they are slapped into shape, they are to be watched closely and forced to move openly every stretch of the way.

"Saudi Arabia = Tricky street hustler criminal punk itching to sell heroin to the kids. Your kids. While he pumps gas into the ugly machine which is western civilization."

I have two hundred feet of Superior shoreline, I guess that makes me a "water billionaire" heh heh!

Here's just some trivia of volume and size of Superior:

With a surface area of about 31,700 square miles, it exceeds the combined size of Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont and Connecticut. There is enough water in the lake, over 3200 billion gallons, to supply the freshwater needs of the 30 million residents in the lake's adjacent states and province for over three years.

The total inflow, which averages about 28 billion gallons a year, would raise the lake level about 4.2 feet or 50 inches...about 2.5 feet due to precipitation on the surface and 1.7 feet from runoff.

So what happens to the 28 billion gallons of water added to the lake in an average year? Not surprisingly, most of it, about 64% , almost two-thirds,or about 18 billion gallons, is discharged into the lower Great Lakes through the sluices and rapids at the Sault. [Link: www.eagleharborweb.net...]

#253 Quilly Mammoth

One acre with a reel mower? Maybe if you cut it every other day...

Nah. That's just the front yard.

#218- It is bunk, a parody. Then names of the CAIR spoekspeople are unauthentic.

Let us also remember Shalevet Pas who was shot in the head by a sniper while she was cradled in her mother's arm's. While this war has seen the regretable but preventable deaths of some Palestinian children, Israel never targets the kids.

#238 Tanker J.D.

"$2.50/ gallon. That's about what Evian runs, isn't it?

Have no clue. We have well water where we live. :)

St. Pancake? Is she any relation to St. Peg?

#218 jimmytheclaw

well here's your first clue:

CAIR national director Ibrahim Pooper stated that...

jimmytheclaw

Missed #222.

Sorry about that :)

she graded him down to a "B" because she says it isn't Science Fiction.

Okay, I'll bite...if it's not SciFi, what the heck is it?!

the Al Quada terrorists in Iraq got a "moonbat" with a recent bomb attack. And NBC gave us real tears. Seems rachel is not the only loonie moonbat going into war zones were they are not needed or wanted.

North Yemen being the only communist Arab country that ever existed.

A communist Arab country. Poor bastards got screwed twice.

I can't stand bad teachers.

Me either, but it's the bad parents who make my job a nightmare.

Looks like one of us has penetrated the Royal Theater's discussion
boards:

1. My Name is Rachel Levy (Israeli girl age 17, blown up in a grocery
store)
2. My Name is Rachel Thaler (Israeli girl aged 16, blown up in a pizzeria)
3. My Name is Rachel Levi (Israeli girl aged 19, murdered while waiting
for the bus)
4. My Name is Rachel Gavish (killed with her husband and son while at
home)
5. My Name is Rachel Charhi (blown up while sitting in a cafe)
6. My Name is Rachel Shabo (murdered with her three sons aged 5, 13 and 6
while sitting at home)

It would be interesting knowing how many of THESE Rachels were murdered
with explosives smuggled in through the same tunnels that Rachel Corrie
and her ISM pro-terrorist friends were "defending"!

In the meantimes
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
HOSTILITY to Jewish students at British universities could escalate this week with moves by academics to boycott Israeli goods and set up links with Palestinian organisations.

Luciana Berger, 23, a close friend of Euan Blair, the prime minister’s son, described last week how she had been forced to resign from the executive committee of the National Union of Students (NUS) after being abused and spat at by left-wing undergraduates and Muslim activists because she is Jewish.

This week anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian motions will be submitted for debate at the annual conference of the 48,000-strong Association of University Teachers (AUT). A similar motion was defeated by a vote of 2-1 two years ago. But other motions, including one deploring a “witch-hunt” against people who supported the boycott, were passed.

There are fears that a “yes” vote at the conference in Eastbourne will increase tension on campuses. The move to sever links with Israeli universities and support Palestinian academics comes from branches of the union at Birmingham University and the Open University.

Sue Blackwell, a lecturer in English at Birmingham and a leading member of the British Committee for Universities of Palestine, said it was not possible to have links with both Israel and the Palestinians. ...

Send to Sue Blackweel your comments lizards...

her e-mail is s.a.blackwell@bham.ac.uk

You know, it never struck me until this minute the irony of the fact that Rachel Corrie had a Hebrew given name.

It's 7:12 p.m. - Ohio time. Have to go and make dinner.

Would like to say something about the other Rachels who mean a lot to us, and nothing to the MSM.

Rachel was the name I was going to call my child when I was pregnant with #5 and if the baby was a girl.

I always loved that name.

But #5 was not a girl. He is a gorgeous boy and he has another biblical name.

Still, I mourn for the other Rachels who were killed before their time. They were innocent.

Unlike Rachel Corrie who knew fully well that she was in harm's way, the others were not.

Bob's Kid

Oh, so true--or rather, the parents who let the child dictate the terms.

To return to the topic:

I love Alan Rickman as an actor, but I wish he'd stay out of politics.

RightyMouse

right now my reading list is so bad I feel like I am back in school... since you were in LA then you know... we are in year 6 or 7 of a drought out here... my place in CO is at the headwater of one of the rivers that feeds the Colorado... Lake Powell is projected to be empty by 2007...

Since our average precipitation is only 11 inches... and that includes snowfall... 12 inches of snow = 1 one inch of rain... a drought means less than half or more, so less than 5 inches a year...

But, egads... it is... a desert... with swimming pools and golf courses...

#261 SwampWoman

Seriously, even with a very sharp blade it is very difficult to cut more than 3/8 to 1/2" at a time. I have one customer that wants his front lawn, about a 1/2 acre, to look like a golf green. We cut it twice a week with a _power_ reel and it sucks.

I actually have the guy over a barrel, I bought the reel mower from a golf course and AFAIK my company is the only one to use one in Residential Lawn Maintenance in our area.

If you spend an hour a day cutting it would be better than Pilates...or whatever the hell its called!

271 Jakester
did you see the following post?

271 Jakester

here it is..unbelievable hate---

well those Rachels seem to all have dark hair rather than Rachel Corrie's blonde hair and we're only interested in heroines with aryan blonde hair not jewesses with dark hair

in any case they don't matter, only rachel corrie who heroically defended palestinian resistance fighters whose only crime was to attack the zionist occupation by bombing the zionist resteurants and supermarkets and cafes and thus killing these jewish rachels you mention

May Allah bless Rachel Corrie and may a thousand more jewish Rachels be killed in her name

Apparent self-loathing Jew, Erica Silverman, has developed a good grasp of the Nim Chimpsky school of criminolinguistics-

Avery was shot in the face with a 50-calibur bullet from an IDF Armored Personnel Carrier in Jenin while trying to assist Palestinians suffering from a military curfew.

Hey, tools, here's some "deep structure" for you.

OT:
Don't forget to sign the petition "supporting" Prof. Massad at Columbia, they leave a space for comments.

Yet another talented actor I've lost all respect for...