that won't last long

Is April Apoplexy month or something?

Kos is such a slimeball. Thanks for finding the original link Charles.

You go Charles!

F*ck Kos

Here's one, too.
[Link: united-states-of-earth.com...]

Suniga's attempt to bury his tracks brings to mind what they used to say in the Soviet Union: the future is known, it's the past that keeps changing.

Funny how he uses "the" in front of people.

"Let THE people...."

Who does he think he is, Castro?

Its sooo commie-like.

Some people are not even worthy of our contempt. That seems to be a major characteristic of many democrats these days.

What a farging bastage.

Great job on re-exposing this moron...

#5 bruiser

Amen, amen, amen.

But, what what is the counter to the dismissive "they're just mercs" comment? It seems a little weak to simply point out that if they are mercs, then so are the GreenPeace moonbats -- both are paid to do what they believe in.

hey kostard-PIMF
MERCENARIES...

Grrr- go get 'em Charles. You da man.

Still there. He probably won't notice until morning

o/t

Ugh Charles-

Survivor of helicopter crash murdered- video of survivor's murder on the internet.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

#12-

They're just mercs

They're just jews

They're just blacks

They're just women

Do you really think that we need to countrer such a dismissive comment, or does he need to explain and justify it better?

OT

Reservist accused of holding migrants at gunpoint at AZ highway rest stop will not be charged:

Reservist won't be charged

PIMF- I should not have added "better" at the end of that sentance. He needs to do something to explain the comment at all.

#17-

Maybe we should find a way to post that article on Kos.

What these Islamist fucks don't get is that the video works both ways.

They will reap the whirlwind.

By erasing and hiding what he said is his agreement that he was wrong and mebbe has a guilty conscience.

/oh wait, he doesn't have a conscience.

Has anybody brought up the incredibel hypocrasy of Kos making this statement. From what I understand, he isa foreign born. Had he attained citizenship before he enlisted in the army, or was he just a mercenary too?

I've been trying to think it through, and it seems to me that the Left thinks of dead American civilian contractors much like we do about Rachel "St. Pancake" Corrie.

Of course, the contractors *were* trying to make a living and feed their families and help their country out, and St. Pancake *was* trying to hinder one of America's best allies...but if you're as dumb and as anti-American as the Left is and live in Bizarro World like they do ("America bad! Freedom bad! Communism good!"), then decent Americans working for a living would look like mercenaries, and anti-American moonbats would look like martyrs.

Leftism should probably be declared a form of mental illness.

Typical democratic demonstration that they all suffer from a room temperture IQ.

These folks prob know where Hoffa is...

#15 madawaskan

In their Web statement, the Islamic Army in Iraq said it killed the surviving crewman "in revenge for the Muslims killed in the mosques of Fallujah." It was apparently referring to the shooting by an American soldier of a wounded Iraqi in a Fallujah mosque on Nov. 13 during a U.S. offensive in the city.

I just love when they presume to *know* what motivates this ilk.

CNN reports what goes on at that non-esteemed site almost everyday. This guy is connected directly with Howard Dean and hero of CNN.

Here ya go all you old school Democrats, this is what your party has evolved into.evolved

>From what I understand, he isa foreign born.

Well, at least he has an excuse for his anti-Americanism then. 99.99% of Moonbat Nation doesn't.

Compassionate progressivism at its best.

#23- Malleus Dei

Good point there.

...but if you're as dumb and as anti-American as the Left is and live in Bizarro World like they do ("America bad! Freedom bad! Communism good!"), then decent Americans working for a living would look like mercenaries

I think that you have explained why so many people can support Ward Churchill's "little Eichmanns" comment.

#25,

Kevin Sites, the jihadis thank you. Maybe someday they'll thank you in person...

>CNN reports what goes on at that non-esteemed site almost everyday.

Of course - they're all on the same team and probably all taking orders from the same people.

Did you know that Castro had a hand in creating CNN's international news? You can look it up:

[Link: www.nieman.harvard.edu...]

I assume "MarkyMarx" is long banned from KoS for being half human?

these are human beings (3.87 / 8)

i repeat: these are human beings. don't be a sicko.
this has nothing to do with US policy (which I agree is completely fucked).

they are our hired guns, and in that sense not so terribly different from the current US military, which is also a voluntary force.

also, even if policy were relevant to the question, they were not there to oppress anyone -- they were there to facilitate the transition to democratic rule, which is a GOOD thing.

"Orthodoxy, of whatever color, seems to demand a lifeless, imitative style." --George Orwell

by markymarx on Thu Apr 1st, 2004 at 12:21:22 PDT

The Marines reply to the scumbags, later.

I have an earlier version without APF's logo blocking part of the post script on this computer.

Hi, Charles:

Seems there is an ongoing fued between lgf and Koz - but the guy is such a screwball, he has no credibility and there is no point in mud wrestling with scum like him. In the Navy I learned never to go toe to toe with a subordinate. There is no winning.

There are so many more important issues a brilliant man like you could be covering - like the pivotal senate votes for Bolton - and what they are apparently trying to fix on him. A good screwing?

What about an equitable Senate porocess like "every nominee deserves an up or down vote - and execercise the "nuclear option" to eradicate the filibuster?

What about those judgeships we need voted on by the Senate - that come conservative senators are hesitating on? Why, and what gives?

Such are the worthy events that really matter to us and our future. I rely on your commentary as my first link to world news several times each day and there is no way an angry scuzoid like Koz should even register on the radear screen of reason.

Cast not thy pearls before swine - (neither shalt thou waste your wonderful intellect on scuzoids)

Yours truly,

Loren C. Divers
Honolulu

I'm reading a book about the Pacific War. Into the Rising Sun (not for the squeamish).

If he really doesn't care about our people dying in war, does anyone believe he cares about the Iraqis?

>I think that you have explained why so many people can support Ward >Churchill's "little Eichmanns" comment.

If you hate America as badly as the American Left, the Communists (I differentiated those two but sometimes I wonder if I should, as a Communist is just a Democrat in a hurry), most of the mainstream media, and the rest of Moonbat Nation does, then you can, will and do support anything that harms America.

while i agree with much of what #34 so eloquently wrote, i, for one, thank you, charles, for keeping this a**hole's feet to the fire.

I've been drunk in Honolulu.

36 Malleus Dei

as a Communist is just a Democrat in a hurry

I grew up a democrat and I have to agree with that, these days.

Ed, I do believe that you have been drunk more places than water. I am just waiting for somebody to reference Antartica.

>What about those judgeships we need voted on by the Senate - that some >conservative senators are hesitating on? Why, and what gives?

Easy answer: simple gutlessness. The Democrats can ram judges down America's throat for years, but our senators? They cringe at the thought of acting like men. I hate to say this, but Hillary has more balls than the lot of them. The Democrats would never hesitate, not even for a second, but our senators, even with a clear majority? Cringe, hide, cower, flinch. And wet pants.

Markos seems proud enough of this entry not to delete it altogether, so why doesn't he have it out where everyone can see it? And where are the resident trolls to insist you're pulling random reader comments to make him look bad?

Hey now, we should give Kos the benefit of the doubt. After all, he posted it on April Fools Day.

/yeah right

# 42-

Since he signed that particular comment, even the most severe case of cognotive dissonance can't claim that it is random reader comments. What he doesn't mention is that these so called mercenaries were doing there was acting as bodyguards for people who were attempting to turn that rathole into a modern nation.

"The bodies were haning upside down on each side of the bridge. They had no hands, no feet, one had no head." My old Iraqi friend had been driving into Fallujah just after the massacre, the stoning, the burning. He was shaking as he told me what he saw. "They were hanging upside down above the highway, on the old railway bridge which bridge, now a road bridge. The people of Fallujah were just driving over the bridge as if nothing was happening, right past the bodies." The bridge is on the west side of the Sunni Muslim city, across the Euphrates river, and the corpses had been tied to the girders about six feet above the road. "When we left, there were no helicopters, no police, no soldiers, it all seemed quite normal; except for the bodies. They were burnt brown. I couldn't tell if they were men or women."

In fact, there were four Western men slaughtered in Fallujah yesterday - all contractors for the Americans, some apparently armed - and they had been dragged from their cars, mutilated, stoned, burnt, beaten with iron pipes. One of them was decapitated, then dragged through the streets behind a car. What the Anglo-American occupation power later called a "particularly brutal" crime - a somewhat restrained comment in the face of such barbarity - was all too real on the videotapes filmed by Iraqi camera crews in Fallujah but which were not shown on Western television stations last night.

Another man gave a chilling description of how the men were dragged from their car, begging for their lives. "They had gasoline splashed on them and were set alight," he said.

It was an especially terrible day in Iraq. Five US Marines were killed only 20 miles from Fallujah by a roadside bomb and 15 Iraqis were wounded by a car bomb in the city of Baquba which had been intended for an Iraqi police convoy.

As usual, Iraqi dead were not counted by the occupation powers. But it will be the tapes that will be remembered by all who saw them - and by Arabs who were able to watch most of them, uncensored, on their own broadcasting channels.

They show the two burning vehicles and two men lying beside them. One, clearly a Westerner, is lying on his back, in brown trousers but with his shirt pulled up to his chest, staring at the sky. A tide of burning petrol embraces the corpse and his hands are standing claw-like above his chest. A crowd of screaming civilians - many shouting Allahu Akhbar (God is Great), and "Fallujah will be free" - then use a metal hook to drag another smouldering body from beneath the second vehicle. The youths are making V-signs at the camera as a man picks up an iron pipe and smashes it repeatedly on the charred remains. A second man steps forward to kick the head until it is completely severed from the body.

These were the horrors of Iraq yesterday, pictures which would have reminded the world of the American debacle in Somalia had they been shown outside the Middle East. For the crowd truss up one of the bodies with yellow tape, tie it to a car and then drag it down the main street towards the Euphrates bridge, all the while jumping up and down and laughing.

Cars and trucks can be seen hooting in impatience to overtake this obscene cortège as if such horrors were an everyday occurrence. There were many Westerners in Iraq last night who were praying that they would not be. One of the dead men - who were, in the words of one Iraqi in Fallujah, "slaughtered like sheep" - appeared to be carrying military identification tags. An US passport lay next to another. One local civilian said the mujahedin, "holy warriors", had thrown two grenades at each car before dragging the occupants onto the road.

Myself and anyone who wasn't an eye witness to the events surrounding the deaths of Americans Rachel Corrie or the security guys...but something tells me that Rachel had the opportunity to save herself while the other Americans, however, probably didn't.

OT

#34,

I emailed Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) a few days ago, and this is the reply I got:

There are a number of vacancies on the federal bench that urgently need to be filled. I'm working to ensure that we confirm law-and-order judges who will enforce the law instead of making it up as they go along.

Currently, the nominations of several judicial nominees are being held up in the Senate. All are exceptionally qualified nominees. In these cases, I have consistently voted to end the filibusters so that the Senate could vote on its nominations. The minority, however, wants to change the way judges are selected. They want to increase the number of votes needed to confirm a judge from 51, as has been the procedure for over 200 years, to 60. This is a dangerous precedent that threatens to undermine our independent judiciary.

In November 2003, my colleagues and I conducted a 39-hour debate in the Senate to underline the injustice of blocking a straight up-or-down vote on these nominations. I believe that this president - or any president - deserves to have his nominees to the bench debated fully and given a fair vote in the Senate.

Our judiciary profoundly affects your rights as an American citizen, and I'll be sure to consider your comments as these issues are discussed and debated here in Washington and in Tennessee.

NYT gave the little Kos-sucker a nice promo about his new sports blog service, most likely a thank you for mentioning NYT about ten times on CSPAN.

#44 tankdemon

You and I know it, and so do they. Therefore, no dumbass "Hypocrite!" posts.

Can you imagine the howls of protest at DailySok, DU, Atrios, et al., if US Military personnel were providing security for KBR?

>I grew up a democrat and I have to agree with that, these days.

It's sadly undeniable. Hillary is just Fidel Castro in makeup and lipstick, and Che Guevara is the Leftist doctor that Howard Dean dreams of being.

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Rodham Clinton, July 26, 2004, NY Daily News

"I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for" - Howard Dean, January 30, 2005

Is this the same Kos who was paid $3000 a month by the Howard Dean campaign? Yeah, I thought so.

Democrats, be proud, feel the love.

>Hey now, we should give Kos the benefit of the doubt. After all, he posted >it on April Fools Day.

So what? Every day on that Moonbat Nation web site is April Fool's Day.

#45 miss lovebush

One, clearly a Westerner, is lying on his back, in brown trousers but with his shirt pulled up to his chest, staring at the sky. A tide of burning petrol embraces the corpse and his hands are standing claw-like above his chest.

A link to that was posted here back when it happened.

>I am just waiting for somebody to reference Antartica.

I've been drunk off the coast of Antarctica. but it's very hard and not very smart to get drunk *in* Antarctica.

If you read downthread of that comment, you can see that some of the Kos Kids take him to task:

i repeat: these are human beings. don't be a sicko.

and

Kos ... I am shocked and offended by your comment. If you really don't feel anything, maybe you need to get some help.

Maybe he should...

I made my own archived version of the Kos Comment.

http://free.hostultra.com/~tondog/screwthem.htm

Ahhh...nothing like a leftest trying to erase and revise history. Some things never change.

Personally, humble Low and Ignorant Insane swamp hermit gentle me thinks that "Kos" has a great nose, but that bottom lip of his gives me an erection that any free world Bank would give me a loan on...so to speak of such 'Thangs.

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

KårmiÇømmünîs† ;

52 J.D.

A link to that was posted here back when it happened.

yep, and prolly followed along w/ comments by LGF'rs rightly aghast at the barbarity of it all. i just felt a need to post the gruesome details again to remind us all (not that we need remindin) the stance taken by DKOS which they are now trying to hide. sorry for the duplication, tho.

#58 miss lovebush
No problem whatsoever. I had almost forgotten about that link until you mentioned it. It was just horrendous, and you're right - we should not allow ourselves to forget.

What lying Kos tyrant will never admit is the utter shame and embarrassment felt by the majority of Iraqi's that day. Just another expose proving that they don't want peace. And any moonbat who wants to argue the contrary can squirm and scream trying to explain how they do.

I don't know if hiding it is an admission he was wrong to make the comment, but it certainly indicates the comment is now hurting him and he regrets having made it.

His opinion doesn't count much anyway. He might want to be a psychic when he grows up if he really knows what motivated the contractors to be there. I don't know about you, but I don't read minds.

Froggy

Kos, you little prick, you can try, but you can't hide it.

The internet never forgets . . . .

Daily Koward

It fits the pathetic little wanker so well..........

#35 Beagle

I've read Into the Rising Sun a couple of times. Great book and definitely, as you say, not for the squeemish.

I recommend With the Old Breed: at Peleliu and Okinawa by E.B. Sledge, if you haven't read it yet. Best personal account I've ever read. The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer is also a classic...

I'll remember this next time I send a broken link to this site to a friend of mine. I've also found cached pages to this site that don't work - hiding something, Charles? Or do you just not have the slightest clue how this internet thing works? I just thought it was luck of the digital draw; I never thought to accuse you of covert tactics. Consider the illogic in linking to something you say is hidden; if Kos wanted to hide it, it would be gone.

Went to his search page. Typed "Screw them"; searched it as a phrase. Found a link to his now world-famous apology: [Link: www.dailykos.com...]

But the original post? It was a comment to a diary; not going to be found by searching stories (the default parameter). As you write in your favorite post, the diary entry was called "Corpses on the Cover." So, search Diaries for "Corpses." (It's a simple search; prepositons bog it down.) A few page-throughs, and there it is: [Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Real "elusive," there.

April 1, 2004? Glad you're posting NEWS here, Charles. Google News will come crawling to you any day now...

Then again, maybe you're just trying to help casual readers forget these comments: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Oh brother.

beldar/bellak apparently found his speech.

Ha, Kos is trying to rewrite history by erasing any traces of his assinine comments.

Old Joe Stalin used to do the same kind of stuff, even going so far as to airbrush out of official photographs any pictures of his enemies, so that they would become "non-people".

Fortunately, the Web never forgets.

Darn, just got a shitbird stuck in my keyboard. Seems that they are always flying around on a left wing with their head up their ass.

#66

Still doesn't change a damn thing about what KOS said... but then again, KOS has now admitted he has been on the payola of numerous Dems at that time and even now... so was his little spiel really his or what someone else wanted him to say...

#22

Had he attained citizenship before he enlisted in the army,

Maybe some ex-military folks can answer this question: can a foreign-born non-U.S. citizen use their military enlistment as a backdoor to U.S. citizenship? I only ask because I used to work for a guy from the Dominican Republic who enlisted in the U.S. Army, served for less than a year, then "found a way to get out", as he put it. He's still living here in Rhode Island, 20+ years later, sucking up my hard-earned tax dollars every day.

locutus #72

Absotively. Lots of good points concerning assimilation in a controlled culture etc. Obviously there can be a bad point or two as well.

By the way, everything I've ever written on this site is right out in the open, indexed and searchable. I have never deleted pages from the Google cache, or tried to hide anything I've written. "dgbellak" is completely full of feces.

Charles:

I just sent you an e-mail about this:

DU takes its cue from Zuniga.

Jheka @ 75

Great job on your site...

Assholes...

Never accused you, Charles, which was the point of my initial paragraph. Why would he request Google remove the cache if the page can just as easily be found through his own site? I suppose it is possible he would do so, but pointless since his detractors could still find it just as easily. I was only pointing out that such implications are easy for you to make as they are unverifiable, but that you deem such apocryphal arguments necessary since your base argument - that the comment is "hidden" - is false.

Thank you for personally responding. I consider it a privilege.

Jheka,

I agree with Bubbles on both points. Good work!

bellak,

MTC

oops.

Meaningless Technical Correction.

This isn’t an Xbox game

And when your city goes up in flames you will realise this.

Thank you Democrats for supporting such a vile "man." It's why I won't be voting Democratic soon (and I'm a Democrat! - I've thought of changing, but it distresses LLL's so much....).

dgbellak,

Maybe you don't remember (or never knew it), but Kos changed his site on the very day that he posted that comment.

I saw the original comment and later that day, saw the "apology" he left in its place. He'd removed the comment and the apology did not do justice to his original post. That is, if you hadn't read the original post, you would not have known what the fuss was about.

threadjack...
does anyone remember Michael Moore's comments from 9/12/01? He has removed all traces of his comments, and the archives too. The internet has a very short memory. Liberals count on this.
/threadjack

'dgbellak' -- again, you're completely full of it. The fact is that the permalink is redirected on that page; this is a deliberate action, intended to make the comment hard to find. No other comment on that page is redirected in this way. And the page has been deleted from Google's cache of Daily Kos, which can only be done by request of the page owner.

My charge that he hid the comment is not false. Your dissembling and attempts to make excuses, on the other hand...

Cache erased? Works for me: [Link: 64.233.187.104...]

It does hang a little and it may look like it's trying to misdirect you; damn Blogads. If it hangs for you, click "back," that Blogads code will stop loading and it will take you right there.

It's the April 12th cache, if that helps to quell this conspiracy theory.

To your credit, Charles, the direct permalink to the comment itself does appear to be broken (clicking it just redirects you the home page), but since there are so many other ways to get to the comment (as it hasn't been moved or deleted), I just don't understand why he would deliberately do this, as it in effect fails to "hide" the information at all. Perhaps he just hasn't got around to finishing the job? Whatever. I'm sure we'll continue to believe what we believe.

I wouldn't place the caustic and reactionary kos above being sneaky, but your accusations seemed a tad more Machiavellian than I was willing to accept, and - more importantly - you've been down this road before ([Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
and note that nothing has changed since then.

The permalink is not "broken." Links that previously worked do not just "break" by themselves. The link has been deliberately redirected, just as you are trying to do with this discussion.