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 RetweetBreaking: Newsweek Retracts Quran Story

Mon, May 16, 2005 at 2:17:41 pm PDT

Just over the wire, but no online link yet:

WASHINGTON, May 16 (AFP) - Newsweek magazine on Monday issued a retraction of an article alleging abuse of the Koran at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility which sparked deadly protests in Afghanistan and other Muslim countries.

UPDATE at 5/16/05 2:35:57 pm:

Newsweek Retracts Koran-Desecration Story.

NEW YORK — Newsweek on Monday retracted a story alleging interrogators at Guantanamo flushed the Koran down a toilet in front of detainees.

“Based on what we know now, we are retracting our original story that an internal military investigation had uncovered Koran abuse at Guantanamo Bay,” editor Mark Whitaker said in statement released Monday evening.

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1 PollyPrissypants  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:18:19pm

Too little, too late.

2 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:18:42pm

astonishing.

Will they compensate for those killed, as they'd have others do?

3 oh_dude  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:18:49pm

Gee, just in time. Gotta hand it to those Newsweek guys.

4 FreakyBoy  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:19:07pm

The fear of the blogosphere not letting up sure expedited this one.

5 luckystrike  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:19:17pm

It is too late ,the damage it`s done.
They have to be held responsible.

6 Golem Akbar  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:20:10pm

Newsweek lied
People died

7 BulgarWheat  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:20:16pm

Wonder if GungaDan is giggling like a little school dirl right now...?

8 JammieWearingFool  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:20:43pm

This one gained much critical mass today.

Thank you, Charles, for doing your part.

Still, too late for NewsWeak.

They're finished.

9 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:20:44pm

In the meantime : Afghan Muslim clerics have threatened to call for a holy war against the United States in three days unless it hands over military interrogators reported to have desecrated the Quran.

The clerics in the northeastern province of Badakhshan said they wanted U.S. President George W. Bush to handle the matter honestly "and hand the culprits over to an Islamic country for punishment."
10 rayra[deleted]  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:20:45pm
11 Necklace of Shoes  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:22:04pm

A woman goes to confession and admits to spreading false gossip. The priest tells her to go home and get her feather pillow and as penance tear it open in the steeple and return
to confession.
She does as instructed. The priest then tells her to go find all the feathers.

Happy hunting Newsweek. You've endangered Americans everywhere with your brilliance.

12 JammieWearingFool  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:22:24pm

How long until the megalomaniacs at Kos are calling for scalps at NewsWeak now that they've admitted they lied?

Hmmm.

13 kynna  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:22:28pm

I'm sure their prompt retraction will bring those who died back to life.
/s

Newsweek lied; people died.

14 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:22:28pm

#6 Golem Akbar -

I like that. Do you have it available in a T-Shirt? Or a bumper sticker? Maybe with a sinister rendering of the Newsweek Editor in Chief?

15 Austin Conservative  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:22:42pm

May they be sued into oblivion!

16 CrimsonFisted  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:22:44pm

#9
Maybe we should give them Michael Ishikoff (or whatever his name is).

17 puff  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:23:05pm

#9 Ringo the Gringo

I'm sure the reporters at Newsweek are shocked, just SHOCKED at this unanticipated turn of events.

18 BabbaZee  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:23:38pm

Things like this are why there are so many proscriptions in Judaism agaisnt the "evil tounge"

[Link: www.torah.org...]

19 jimmytheclaw  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:23:42pm

screw the apology until the fraudi's tell us what happens to all the bibles and christian objects they have confiscated over the years. hey newsweak theres a good story for you to run.

20 Norwegian kafir  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:23:43pm

Tiny Denmark proves once again it is one of few European nations with some spine left:

Troops will remain in Iraq, MPs decide

A broad majority in parliament agreed last week to give the military an extended mandate in Iraq until February 1 2006. The parliament also decided to add DKK 100 million to reconstruction in the country in addition to the 150 million already granted in this year's budget.

21 Gringo  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:23:57pm

#1-#4 SAID ALL THAT I WAS THINKING. WELL DONE LIZARDS!

22 grayp  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:24:07pm

luckystrike noted on the earlier thread that he/she cancelled the subscription today and told them why.

I wonder if they just didn't get enough of those today to make them issue the retraction.

23 scrapiron  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:24:09pm

Oh sure, we'll hand them right over.

Newsweek, get your reporters on a flight to
shitbagistan promply.

24 JammieWearingFool  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:24:10pm

Ringo,

So I will assume Isikoff et al. are being shipped off for punishment.

25 condor  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:24:15pm

What's the penalty for desacrating Newsweek?

Will there be riots in Washington?

Will the Supreme Court issue a fatwa?

Will the US government have to apologize to the owners?

"Newsweek is a great magazine, a symbol of the journalistic ethic, which we all support, and
we can only insist that it sould be treated with respect at all times."
(quote offered gratis for future use by the State Dept. )

26 Austin Conservative  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:24:24pm

Word is they're gonna say it was a typo. They really meant a Korean was flushing the toilet

27 JohninLondon  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:25:09pm

The AP version of the story does NOT look like totl retraction - just more weasel words :

[Link: apnews.excite.com...]

28 Always right  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:25:51pm

And the point is?

Do they really think this will make them repsonsible for their little mistake, therefore, they can be respectable again?

Can't believe how stupid they think we are.

29 zulubaby  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:26:14pm
30 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:26:31pm

But, but, but, this story was another Rathergate meme that was fake, but accurate!

When the MSM should even come close to not twisting a story to fit their biases is the day I give up being an LGFer. Not bloody likely.

31 Bilgeman  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:26:47pm

#6 Golem Akbar:

"Newsweek Lied
People Died"...for Newsweek's PROFIT.

Blood on their hands.

Regards;

32 Pamela  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:26:54pm

#15 Austin Conservative

Here, Here! Where is a competent non libral moonbat lawyer when you need one?

33 JammieWearingFool  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:27:10pm

ac,

Word is they're gonna say it was a typo. They really meant a Korean was flushing the toilet

beautiful

34 rayra[deleted]  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:27:12pm
35 grayp  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:27:16pm

#27 JohninLondon
That story was up before the retraction. As reported by Fox, the Newsweek statement was explicit and used 'retraction' in the affirmative.

36 The Drizzle  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:27:26pm

Whew. Im glad they got to it before anybody got hurt... oh, never mind.

37 outfoxed  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:28:21pm

It is hard for me to express the disgust I feel right now. There simply is no excuse for what happened. One might have had an excuse by claiming unknowing bias 2 years ago but after the proven lies from NYT, CBS, etc, ad nauseum, what possible reason could there be now? This story, which as every sentient being knows, was bound to cause rioting and death. Surely, there is some criminal sanction somewhere that can be brought against Newsweek and/or the author of this slop?

38 madmack  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:28:53pm

RE #15

I am sure John Edwards and all his personal injury lawyer buddies are on a plane to Afghanistan right now.

39 rayra[deleted]  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:28:54pm
40 JammieWearingFool  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:30:36pm

They admit there were "problems" with the story.

I'm gonna keep on having a problem with NewsWeak until everyone involved with this story is exposed and terminated. And prosecuted, if possible (any attorneys care to weigh in there?).

Until then, fire away, lizardoids.

41 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:32:00pm

By the way; dumb as Newsweek's actions were, let's not forget that the basic problem here--the root cause, if you will--is that contemporary Islam is frickkin' nuts. The magazine's poorly-researched story
should have prompted nothing more lethal than strongly-worded letters from Muslims. Not murderous riots.

42 jayfen  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:32:07pm

This leads me to ask, has the state of journalism fallen so badly after all these years, or has it always been this bad, but there was no instant check on it?

43 Ferny  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:33:00pm

A lot could be said here, but #6 gets the spirit and irony of the matter so perfectly that nothing really needs to be added.

Newsweek lied,
people died.

They meant to incite hatred against the US, that's all I'll add.

44 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:37:00pm

#32 Pamela

#15 Austin Conservative

Here, Here! Where is a competent non libral moonbat lawyer when you need one?

From what I have seen, the last one is being held in captivity in Washington DC; all lawyers in the wild have become infected with that dangerous "John Edwards/ACLU" virus and are not expected to survive.

45 engineer  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:38:15pm

It's on the CNN.com front page now.

46 Golem Akbar  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:38:17pm

#41 Ocaisonal Reader

contemporary Islam is frickkin' nuts

Well, yes! Of course that's the core problem of all this stuff since 9/11. And our American/Euro Left terro-enablers are no help. Fercryinoutloud.

And oh yes: bless the blogosphere.

47 Dr. Sanity  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:38:46pm

For Newsweek as well as most of the MSM, the "real" enemy is still the US Military. their thinking has never progressed beyond Vietnam. That is why they will believe anything that is negative about the military, no matter the source or the evidence.

48 JohninLondon  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:41:25pm

grayp

I had tried looking at the Reuters site as well and found nothing new. But clearly there has now been a formal retraction.

Now lets have some real humble pie-eating.

As someone said - when the MSM get their stories wrong, why is it that their errors are virtually ALWAYS such that put the US in a bad light ? Why are they happy to print deeply damaging, even inflammatory lies about their own country ? Do they ever go around making up lies about the opponents of the US ?

Stupid question, I suppose.

49 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:41:37pm

#39 rarya -

There you go! Wouldn't it FEEEL great to do that etching while wearing the T-Shirt and maybe having the bumper sticker stuck on one of the legs of your black jeans? With your tounge pierced?

Oh. oh. oh. Got another idea!

Then you could go down the street and throw a chair through the window of the McDonalds! Wouldn't that FEEEL Great!

50 Bilgeman  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:42:02pm

Silver Lining Department;

After this memorable occasion of Newsweek stepping on it's own reproductive organs,
I'll wager that further allegations by detainees of abuse will be checked, double-checked and triple-checked to death.

And if any iota of doubt exists, no print-no broadcast...mum's the word.

In fact, I'll wager that our Leftist chums will be cooking up the conspiracy that this was a deliberate misinformation campaign from the git-go in about 30 seconds.

Regards;

51 Dr. Sanity  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:42:53pm

#41

I totally agree. We can work to make Newsweek and the other rags go out of business (one hopes that lawsuits will accelerate this process), but the real problem that won't go away is Islam itself.

If this latest outbreak of insanity on their part doesn't finally put to rest the idea of Islam as a religion of peace, I don't know what will.

52 Studsup  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:43:28pm

#43 Ferney -- "They meant to incite hatred against the US, that's all I'll add."

That is precisely why they did it and why the rest of the MSM built on it and continues to justify and propagate the lie just as Nightline is doing at the moment.

They want to see US soldiers killed, they want to see the USA defeated and they want to see US citizens, many of them, killed in terror attacks. They want, of course, to blame it all on the Republicans.

Newsweek and the rest of the MSM are traitors.

The irony of this is that in overplaying their hand, the MSM and their fellow Jihadis may have set into motion the undisguised fury of the Islamic war that has been waged against the west, and in particular, the USA for over two decades now.

As the carnage mounts, even the MSM will be unable to hide it all from America forever, and then, maybe we can start to fight this war to victory.

53 Han_Solo  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:43:52pm

I just sent an email to pres Bush suggesting:

1) Whitehouse press core credentials need to be immedately revoked for anyone who works for Newsweek and their parent company or subsid's thereof.

2) The press is totally out of control. They will say anything regardless of who might get killed or hurt or the damage it does to the country, national security or foreign policy. SOMEONE needs to teach the US press that... "YES" freedom of speech is dear and important to us, but someone needs to teach the country what the meaning of the word "TREASON" is, because they obviously don't teach it in school anymore and especially not in journalism schools.

54 skippyMoment  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:45:28pm

Is Mary Mapes working over at Newsweek? What about Dan Rather?

Guess they can't use the 'fake but accurate' mantra on this one.

Any guesses as to how long the MSM tries to bury this story?

55 TotallySirius  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:47:31pm

Now they can investigate themselves,fire 2 or 3 low level nobodies and say they cleaned house.

Neither the reporter,editor nor anyone else in a position of authority will take any responsibility.

"You can trust us now,we took action"

/sarc

56 Powderfinger  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:48:09pm

Has anyone else noticed that the blogosphere has turned the MSM into cannibalism? No longer do they lay off each other's mistakes. They don't want LGF et al scooping them.

Heh.

57 BorgQueen  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:48:22pm
#50 Bilgeman
I'll wager that further allegations by detainees of abuse will be checked, double-checked and triple-checked to death.

Yep. They'll find TWO detainees to swear to every incident.

58 Golem Akbar  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:48:31pm

I live in LA, and subscribe to the weekend LA Times (can't do it daily -- they turn my stomach too much). Sunday's Opinion Section was chock full of "Oh we're going to be more moderate...oh we're going to be less liberal" kind of stories. They're losing subscribers and are starting to realize that their lefty bias is just too much for us "centrists" to take anymore.

I bet Newsweek is next. They've got a lot of "mea culpas" coming. Watch what happens when their numbers go down.

Yay Charles!

59 Bilgeman  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:49:20pm

#48 John in London:
"Why are they happy to print deeply damaging, even inflammatory lies about their own country ? "

They're not stupid questions, John.

They simply belie that you have accepted the false premise that a corporate entity has any loyalty to anything but itself.

This is not "Newsweek's Country"...Newsweek HAS no country.

It grows here in the USA simply because we place no restrictions on what it prints and it is advertising to the American consumer market.

Kinda makes you wonderhow it is then that media organizations, that HAVE no loyalty have interposed themselves between the American citizenry and the American government that is his servant, eh?

Regards;

60 puff  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:50:23pm

Since we can't mass protest, how about a mass emailing to the Newsweek editors (Editors@newsweek.com). I suggest adopting Golem Akbar's saying:

Newsweek lied
People died.

61 Model4  Mon, May 16, 2005 12:56:20pm

I don't see why Newsweek is retracting. According to this article there was one anonymous source who did not dispute the story. And we all know that "did not dispute" means proof positive when you're trying to damage America and her soldiers.

#41 Occasional Reader:

By the way; dumb as Newsweek's actions were, let's not forget that the basic problem here--the root cause, if you will--is that contemporary Islam is frickkin' nuts. The magazine's poorly-researched story

I'm of two minds on this. Sure, if you say something bad about me I should be counted on not to go on a homicidal rampage. But I'm a civilized Western man.

So lets say I need to hire someone to work at the daycare, and a known violent pedophile applies. I give him the job. Now what should happen in theory is the person does a good job and gets paid for it. And if something bad happens... can I then say it's solely the fault of the employee? Or should I have known that since I'm dealing with a special case in a sick nucking fut, that I've got to be way more cautious than I could be around normal folks?

62 Austin Conservative  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:04:39pm

Newsweek has it all under control. Just a little misunderstanding.

Every muslim now gets a free subscription for their troubles.

So sorry.

63 Chuck Pelto  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:05:05pm

TO: All
RE: Hey!

Maybe they can bring those dead Muslims back to life too?

Regards,

Chuck(le)

64 Sarah D.  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:05:56pm

Now that they've retracted the story (geez) can we get back to the real issue here? Who gives a rats a$$ if a koran gets flushed? If my caring about an unholy "holy" book is part of the grand diversification plan - count me out.

65 zulubaby  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:06:09pm

What Newsweek did was despicable but really, the Muslims are going to have to learn how to protest without slaughtering everyone in sight. Beheadings? No problem. Koran touched by infidels? Chaos. It's not civilized.

66 Chuck Pelto  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:08:03pm

TO: Bilgeman
RE: How True

"They simply belie that you have accepted the false premise that a corporate entity has any loyalty to anything but itself." -- Bilgeman

As some English judge put it...

They [corporations] cannot commit treason, nor be outlawed nor excommunicated, for they have no souls. -- Sir Edward Coke, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1628

And therein lies the root of the problem. Those people have no soul.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

67 mardukhai  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:10:46pm

OT

Check out this story from Denver's Channel 4 (the guys who follow Ward Churchill) about spy radio stations.

It's really cool.

Spy Number Radio Stations

And watch the video segment.

68 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:11:16pm

#61 Model4:

Or should I have known that since I'm dealing with a special case in a sick nucking fut, that I've got to be way more cautious than I could be around normal folks?

Of course, that would be the case. You would be at fault for hiring the violent pedophile (violent pedophile... hey, sounds like the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)!). But the basic problem is still the pedophile, not you. I guess I'm just leery of a sort of... stealthly defining-deviancy-down sort of thing here. We have to careful to walk the line between recognizing that this sort of thing will provoke violent insanity among, ah, certain Muslims; without accepting this. Kind of like recognizing that it's a bad idea for a young woman to walk alone through Crackheadtown wearing a miniskirt, without giving up on the idea that there's something deeply wrong with the conditions in Crackheadtown that make this the case.

69 Bilgeman  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:15:39pm

Chuck Pelto:
"And therein lies the root of the problem. Those people have no soul."

Hi Cunn'el:

Oh, I believe they have souls, I even suspect that they believe that they have them, but they are serving that which does not.

So perhaps they will find out the hard way that working for Newsweek will get you no "Freebies" in the hereafter...well, maybe "Head of the Line" priveleges on the "Down" escalator.


I'm reminded of the reporter during the LA riots who was caught by a mob and beaten to pulp while he was phoning in his copy.

He kept bleating: "I'm a reporter!...I'm a reporter!"

...as though once the mob realized that this middle-aged honkie on the payphone was a media personage, they would immediately cease and desist.

Nope...wrong answer.

Oops

Ouch!

Regards;

70 Amy  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:19:44pm

Charles ought to put this on the left-hand side of the page right under "rathergate" and call it "newsweekgate."

This retraction is not going to make a damn bit of difference. The Islamonutz are going to assume that the Bushies pressured Newsweek to retract (because that's what would happen in their enlightened countries) and that the US is lying. And to put the icing on the cake, all that's needed is for one jihadi released from Guantanamo to "confirm" that the story is true.

Necklace of Shoes #11 has it 100% right.

71 Malleus Dei  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:20:42pm

"let's not forget that the basic problem here--the root cause, if you will--is that contemporary Islam is frickkin' nuts"

That's correct, but that doesn't excuse Newsweak even one little bit.

72 Malleus Dei  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:21:19pm

"Newsweek lied
People died"

Nice jingle there.

73 Mike McDaniel  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:21:42pm

Arrest Tuesday, try for sedition and treason Wednesday, convict Thursday by military court.

Execution at 1200 EDT Friday on the Mall

74 Chuck Pelto  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:21:46pm

TO: BIlgeman
RE: Corporate Cretins Got Soul

"Oh, I believe they have souls, I even suspect that they believe that they have them, but they are serving that which does not." -- Bilgeman

Technically, yes. They serve something without a soul; the corporation of Newsweek.

On the other hand, I think the people working there have 'sold their soul'...to the corporation. So, even though they have a soul, they do not own it for themselves. If they did, they'd leave the corporation and redeem their soul.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

75 Malleus Dei  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:22:56pm

"Is Mary Mapes working over at Newsweek? What about Dan Rather?"

No, the last I heard they both still worked for the Democratic Party.

76 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:40:52pm
Charles ought to put this on the left-hand side of the page right under "rathergate" and call it "newsweekgate."

Personally, I think we need to, as a culture, figure out a new prefix to add in substitution for "-gate" in order to denote a scandal. If that 1972 burglary had taken place at a Four Seasons hotel, would we be calling this "Newsweekseasons"?

77 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:41:45pm

Oops, I meant suffix, not prefix.

(Also, I split an infinitive. I am so naughty naughty naughty.)

78 American Infidel[deleted]  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:50:47pm
79 free and clear  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:55:25pm

Mullahs threaten "jihad" in 3 days if American interrogators aren't turned over?

That's cool, nothing to fear, because I have learned from muslims that "jihad" means a peaceful, internal struggle, with no warlike connotations whatsoever.

Right.

80 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:56:20pm
81 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:56:47pm

Newsloo?

82 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:56:58pm
83 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, May 16, 2005 1:58:20pm
84 Han_Solo  Mon, May 16, 2005 2:06:37pm

Of course another thought comes to mind.

What toilet will FLUSH a whole copy of the koran?


Must be one of those super-military-toilets we have been buying $700 toilet seats for all these years.

85 [Engineer]  Mon, May 16, 2005 2:15:50pm

I think the Newsweek story is just great!

1. Another MSM has been caught lying so more people will distrust them.

2. Islam has been shown, again, to be a poor excuse for a religion.

3. The people killed were probably Islamists that we are better off without.

4. DU is about to lose what little connection to the real world they have left, again.

The only bad thing I see is that it may cause trouble for our troops.

86 Maine's Michael  Mon, May 16, 2005 2:21:36pm

Koran Abuse? Koran Abuse? WTF is that?

Someone call a social worker.

Child abuse - no problem. Wife abuse - yes please. Koran abuse - NEVER!

87 Eagle  Mon, May 16, 2005 2:22:35pm

What's that flushing sound?

88 Maine's Michael  Mon, May 16, 2005 2:26:23pm

Even if the thing had gone down the flush, I think the greater concern is toilet abuse.

89 alaric1633  Mon, May 16, 2005 2:35:10pm

#75 Malleus Dei

"‘Is Mary Mapes working over at Newsweek? What about Dan Rather?’
No, the last I heard they both still worked for the Democratic Party. "

So...that would be a conditional yes?

alaric

90 carridine  Mon, May 16, 2005 2:39:50pm

Cut!

Okay, Newsweak! Thanks for retracting the lies. Now, places everybody! 17 Dead, come back to life! Annnd...

Action!

91 really grumpy big dog johnson  Mon, May 16, 2005 2:52:07pm

Newsweek is beyond ridiculous. They never had a story in the first place, not with one unsubstantiated source that apparently not only was not a first-hand observer, was merely a person who allegedly (by Newsweek) had access to confidential documents that this unnamed inside "source" claimed stated that these events occurred.

So the so-called inside source recants his/her previous observations as possibly not accurate; Newsweak apologizes for "possibly" disseminating information that could not be corroborated; and now, after acting like total assholes and apparently being entirely unconcerned about the dead bodies that piled up as a result of Islamist frenzy over their allegations, they decide to recant the story?

Guess what my current opinion is of this gutter publication? Are we ever going to get responsible journalism in this country again, or is the MSM just going to watch us spin in the bowl before they flush our democracy with their treasons?

Their anal obsession with destoying GWB with their sensational and generally worthless news stories has worn me to the point of hating every single thing they do. Like the Democrats in Congress, who would rather subvert the workings of government than allow highly-qualified but conservative judges take their seats in the appellate courts, the media is destroying our country brick by brick, and taking lots of others with them.

I hope they all have nightmares, each and every night. That's much less than what they really deserve.

92 Gmac  Mon, May 16, 2005 3:03:13pm

Feh, people still read that rag? I wonder what the subscription base looks like right now, bet it's in free fall.

93 yochanan  Mon, May 16, 2005 3:18:57pm

No one can be as dumb as the journalist and editor at NEWSWEEK so they must have done it to damage AMERICAN INTERESTS.

TIME TO BURN COPIES OF NEWSWEEK

This smells of treason not stupidity

94 Totally Berserk  Mon, May 16, 2005 3:20:02pm

#92 Gmac

Ha! Good I-dea! I will subscribe right away so I can cancel even faster.

Time to synthesize some of the ideas found here at LGF. The real problem of course, being Islam, not the religion of peace, not the religion of submission, but the religion of self-righteous indignation and being perpetually pissed off and seething about something -- anything.

They, Muslim holy warriors, were using torn-up Bibles as toilet paper, and did we say a word? Were there riots? Did anyone have to destroy property or kill someone over it?

Perhaps that (cough-cough) artist who dunked a crucifix in a jar of urine and called it 'art' did us a favor... let's see what happens if he puts a Queeran in a jar of urine next...

95 Amy  Mon, May 16, 2005 3:34:32pm

Excellent analysis at Powerline:

The Pentagon struck back today, calling Newsweek's report of a Koran flushed down a toilet at Guantanamo Bay "irresponsible" and "demonstrably false." Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman is worth quoting at length:

"What we know is that the Newsweek story about a Koran desecration is demonstrably false, and thus far there have not been any credible allegations of willful Koran desecration, and Newsweek hasn't produced any such evidence either.

The fact is Newsweek hid behind anonymous sources, which by their own admission don't withstand any sort of scrutiny. The unfortunate part about it is you can't go back and undo or retract the damage that they've done not only to this nation, but those who have been hacked, injured and some even killed as a result of these false allegations."

Newsweek, which began by arguing that its story could possibly be true, even though the magazine's sources had no knowledge one way or the other, has now retracted the story.

I want to comment briefly, too, on one aspect of Evan Thomas's explanation of what went wrong at Newsweek, as quoted by the Trunk earlier today. Thomas said that the magazine verified its story by running it past an anonymous government official who objected to another error, but didn't say anything about the Koran story. Thomas wrote:

The official had not meant to mislead, but lacked detailed knowledge of the SouthCom report.

I find that rather astonishing. This anonymous official was the proverbial "second source" that supposedly verified Newsweek's story. (Source number one was also anonymous.) I've always wondered why the mainstream media make so many mistakes, notwithstanding ostensible "two source" policies. Maybe this explains it. The second source "lacked detailed knowledge of the SouthCom report." When, exactly, did Newsweek figure this out? Isn't having knowledge one of the prerequisites for being a source? Did Newsweek only investigate its source's knowledge after it learned its story was wrong? Or does it routinely accept people who "lack detailed knowledge" as sources?

96 Totally Berserk  Mon, May 16, 2005 3:36:38pm

Subject: Koran Flushing

Editors@newsweek.com

Just wanted to let you know that next time I see a copy of Newsweek, I will be flushing it down the toilet, where it belongs. No way will I ever read your pages again.

Also, Thanks so much for your helpful actions in the War on Terror... with friends like these, who needs enemies?

97 aelius rex  Mon, May 16, 2005 3:40:15pm

So who at NewsWeek gets

FIRED

over this?

98 TotallySirius  Mon, May 16, 2005 3:49:13pm

#97 aelius

see my #55

99 mongoose  Mon, May 16, 2005 3:52:04pm

"Koran abuse"?
WTF is "Koran abuse"?!

This media-talk is so unfailingly P.C.,
I can't stand it anymore...Arrrggghhh

100 cardiacmont  Mon, May 16, 2005 3:52:10pm

Caller made a good point on Laura Ingraham show just now.

The point being that even if this story was true, should it have been printed?

I say only if you don't care about the lives of American soldiers.

101 Eric Blair  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:02:30pm

This "Quran desecration" incident is reminiscent of the Indian Mutiny, when rumours spread among the native sepoys, that the British were furnishing cartriges coated with grease made from the fat of cows and pigs (thus defiling Hindoos and Musselmen).

102 abu_garcia  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:10:32pm

Sorry, folks, read carefully.

Based on what we know now, we are retracting our original story that an internal military investigation had uncovered Koran abuse at Guantanamo Bay

They're not retracting that it happened, they're retracting that "an internal military investigation" uncovered it.

These weasels are still weasels.

103 Adrenalyn  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:10:45pm

maybe I am new to this and don't have a clue

but how come Koran is now spelled with a "Q" as in queer ?

is there some hidden meaning that the MSM is pulling on the death cult ?

is this some snide attempt at calling them gay ?

I dunno, maybe I am reading too much into this...

104 Amy  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:15:29pm

Adrenalyn -

I don't know if you're being ironic, but in case you're not, when Arabic words are translated into English, the "k" sound is often indicated by a "q" without a "u" following it.

I don't know why.

105 Amy  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:16:16pm

abu-garcia #102 -

Excellent point. That's certainly what it says.

106 realwest  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:30:23pm

#95 Amy - excellent post! I'm only astonished that you're astonished about the second (and first) sources and their lack of credibility!
And the MSM has the temerity to attack bloggers for our lack of research and accountability, mf's.

107 Maine's Michael  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:34:08pm

It is ludicrous that the focus is on newsweek, instead of on the fact that these asswipes feel justified, and that it is somehow accepted, that the 'abuse' of a kooran is considered a perfectly reasonable justification for rioting and murder.

There is a subtext here, that muslims are not expected to respond to stimuli in 'normal' ways.

Racism of diminished / ridiculous expectations?

108 realwest  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:35:53pm

Just got home from work and haven't had a chance to read this entire thread, so forgive me if this has been said before: the only people who benefitted from this outrageous disregard of journalistic ethics and practice, are :a) the Islamofascists who were waiting for something to go off on and b)cBS which has, so far, been able to duck it's deporable cutting and editing of Ken Starr's interview.
Don't relax yet, cBS - you're the next MSM we are going to nail for shoddy journalism and lack of ethics.

109 Amy  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:47:37pm

Re-read my #70 and then read this:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

These people are so freakin' predictable.

realwest #106 -

It's really Powerline's excellent post. Otherwise I agree with you.

110 Amy  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:51:09pm

Here's another story with photos.

The first one, with the sign saying that Newsweek should be banned, at least places the blame where it belongs.

111 Amy  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:51:26pm

Oops! Forgot the link:

[Link: www.chinadaily.com.cn...]

112 whiterasta  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:53:09pm

It would be interesting if news weak's readers started contacting the companies who advertise in that shit-rag and threatening a boycott if they did not stop advertising in the said shit-rag.

Trecherous bunch of bastards. (sp?)

113 Stop Hillary  Mon, May 16, 2005 4:56:12pm

#79 Free and Clear -- "Mullahs threaten "jihad" in 3 days if American interrogators aren't turned over?"

We should make a deal. We'll send over the Newsweek reporters and a handful of executives. The Jihadis can torture the names of their sources from them.

114 Aisha  Mon, May 16, 2005 5:00:55pm
I don't know if you're being ironic, but in case you're not, when Arabic words are translated into English, the "k" sound is often indicated by a "q" without a "u" following it.

Because the sound of the letter is actually somewhere between "Kh" and "Qu" - it is a "throatier" sound than a "hard k" as in "kitten", but not as "soft" as the "Q" in, say, "Queen".

Ask some of the Jews here; they have sounds like that in the Zionist language, too.

115 Da Coyote  Mon, May 16, 2005 5:04:17pm

Gads,

I'm past contempt for these types of journalist. It's past hate. I stay up at night dreaming up extreme torture for them.

Right now, my worst dream is that they have to spend the night with the Hillabeast.

116 Aisha  Mon, May 16, 2005 5:06:02pm

Aisha is thinking that perhaps, taking a leaf out of the Jew book, she could make some money out of this sort of thing. Perhaps in the Great Ummah of Allah Ta'ala, Aisha could sell toilet paper with Zionist and Great-Satanist Flags on it; toilet paper with the chimp President, the Jew Prime Minister, the Pope-worshippers' Jew Pope, etc on it and make lots of money and perhaps build a Great Masjid, and a Madrassaah to teach the Muslims about the danger of the kaafir.

It may be that such income is strictly speaking haraam, particularly if the toilet paper has people on it, but Aisha thinks it is indeed a wonderful cause!

117 jlfintx  Mon, May 16, 2005 5:10:25pm

Aisha you is crazy-get back in yore tent.

118 BabbaZee  Mon, May 16, 2005 5:12:46pm

ULULULUL:ULULULLU:ULLULULLU:ULULLU:

AISHA
of the line if the anti-David:

ALLAH FUBAR!

119 quark2  Mon, May 16, 2005 5:13:58pm

@116 Aisha

It would better serve and find a much hotter market if you were to display the unemcumbered
and independent head of zarqwai on a pike. :)

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121 Totally Berserk  Mon, May 16, 2005 5:26:56pm

#104 Amy


I don't know if you're being ironic, but in case you're not, when Arabic words are translated into English, the "k" sound is often indicated by a "q" without a "u" following it.

I don't know why.

So they can cheat at Scrabble, that's why!

122 Amy  Mon, May 16, 2005 5:31:05pm

Totally Berserk:

LOL!

Why not, they lie and cheat about everything else.

123 Chuck Pelto  Mon, May 16, 2005 5:32:26pm

TO: Totally Berserk
RE: Yeah...

"So they can cheat at Scrabble, that's why!" -- Totally Berserk

Like that word for their cheap drug of choice, qhat, qat, whatever. It's almost as bad as chanukah/hanukah/qhanukah. But that's got 8 letters and it's harder to achieve than throwing away a lousy "Q".

Regards,

Chuck(le)

124 gymnast  Mon, May 16, 2005 5:41:13pm

#116, aisha. Cafe Press already has the copyrights on your idea.

125 yochanan  Mon, May 16, 2005 6:31:44pm

NEWSWEEK F.U.B.A.R.

126 Amy  Mon, May 16, 2005 6:41:02pm

This is f*ucking unbelievable:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

127 biff  Mon, May 16, 2005 7:10:53pm

Oh yeah, let's all blame Newsweek. Those killings must be Newsweek's fault. The poor oppressed and misunderstood muslims would have never been driven to such extreme measures if it was not for Newsweek's outrageous statements essentially equating the holy KORAN with SHIT. Just the idea that someone, anyone (unless that person was a muslim, of course) would place the holy KORAN in a recepticle for SHIT, is obviously enough to send billions of people into a murderous frenzy. ISLAM, afterall is a religion of peace, and not a PIECE OF SHIT, as the Newsweek reference may have implied.

128 metapod  Mon, May 16, 2005 7:28:50pm

"When Overly-Righteous Moonbats Retract"

Bwahahaha. Etc.

129 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, May 16, 2005 7:29:24pm

I want them to give the same attention to Bible abuse and persecution of Christians and Jews that they lavish on our enemies.

130 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, May 16, 2005 7:32:08pm

BTW, I noted that the local news in NY (NBC anyway) gave a fair and full accounting of the NBC fiasco. Opened the nightly news with it, and started baldly with the statement that Newsweak had published a story based solely on one unnamed source, which it had had to retract, and which had led to rioting in the ME and the deaths of at least 16 people.

GOOD.

131 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, May 16, 2005 7:38:00pm

A friend and I were reminiscing about Sept. 11. She was on a train to Fulton Street (right at the WTC) at 9:30 that morning--when the train reached the station, the doors didn't open. She thought she'd spaced out and would get off at the Wall St. stop. A woman on the platform was crying and saying a helicopter had flown into one of the towers, she'd seen it. Jane decided to stay on the train and go uptown. Had she not, she would have gone to the Liberty Plaza to catch the Path train, and been killed.

A week later, she saw about 100 firemen in Grand Central Station's waiting room. She looked their way, and mouthed the words "Thank You." About 20 of them looked up and nodded to her.

132 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, May 16, 2005 7:43:34pm

BTW, the newscast in NYC actually ended with an imam in the city (looked Asian, not Arab) saying the reaction of the Arab nutters shouldn't have been so extreme, running around and killing people. He actually looked embarrassed.

Amazing that they didn't include one MSM pro-terrorist talking point.

Wow. The blogosphere has Some effect after all. Thank God for all the Good Eggs.

133 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, May 16, 2005 8:06:08pm

"Hey, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's goin' dowwwn"

[somebody had to post it}

134 Puck35  Mon, May 16, 2005 8:23:09pm

Maybe it's mean-spirited, but the first thing I thought of when hearing that because of this report, people died at anti-American demonstrations was: "is people dying at anti-American demonstrations all that bad?!?"

Maybe we need more things that cause deaths at anti-American demonstrations...

135 restitutor orbis  Mon, May 16, 2005 8:28:51pm

This isn't over yet. Although most if not all of the deaths were among the demonstrators, and the rioting has died down somewhat, this will rear it's ugly head from time to time. I expect the next few hostages(like the Japanese guy in Iraq right now) to be murdered, with this being cited as a justification. at least until an "unnamed source" claims to have seen US soldiers eating muslim babies, using pages of the koran as napkins.

The US should fine these assholes and Afghanistan should sue Newsweak for damages. The home countries of any hostages killed in "retaliation" should also sue. The Newsweak offices need a good sacking as well. By taking legal action, they would be held accountable, and financially destroyed. Sacking their offices would simply be fun.

136 Orson Buggy  Mon, May 16, 2005 9:47:49pm

I sure hope they didn't put panties on the Korean before flushing it. That would inflame the Islamic world.

137 Orson Buggy  Mon, May 16, 2005 9:52:28pm

PIMF Koran, not Korean. I apologize to all Koreans.

It's been a long day here.

138 JohninLondon  Tue, May 17, 2005 12:55:22am

Aisha

When following Rudy's invite to visit NYC as a tourist again after 9/11 with my youngest daughter, her favourite souvenir of the trip was a toilet roll printed with bin Laden's face.

Do you actually have access to loo paper ? And toilets ? Not the usual hole-in-the-ground/use the left hand 'cos the right hand is for eating ?

139 navyspyII  Tue, May 17, 2005 2:39:08am

Newsweak is looking for laundry advice now.

How do you get Treason out of a liesure suit?

140 Stefania  Tue, May 17, 2005 3:39:56am

Newsweek and ABC are on the Jihadists' side

141 Stefania  Tue, May 17, 2005 3:45:22am

What about asking the Muslim leaders to apologize ( and stop ) the persecution against the Christians and other minorities? Why should we apologize to them and tolerate the mistreatement of the "infidels" in those countries? It's time for the Free World to wake up and end hypocisy

142 yochanan  Tue, May 17, 2005 4:59:54am

And the next time the muslims trash a jewish or christian holy place we should do the following?

1. burn islamic countries flags, riot and murder people?

2. feel guilty

3. fill in the blank ___

4. be proud we live in a real country and not some 7th century hell hole or dhimmi eurotrash defeated place.

your call on which one to do.

143 Adamski  Tue, May 17, 2005 5:34:37am

Ah, the call for special treatment for Muslims:

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan dismissed on Tuesday as inadequate an apology and retraction by the Newsweek magazine of a report that U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had desecrated the Koran.

The report in the magazine's May 9 issue sparked protests across the Muslim world, from Afghanistan, where 16 people were killed and more than 100 injured, to Pakistan, India, Indonesia and Gaza.

"The apology and retraction are not enough," Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed told Reuters.

"They should understand the sentiments of Muslims and think 101 times before publishing news which hurt feelings of Muslims."

Yes, we must remember we are not allowed to hurt Muslim's feelings.

Any doubt that Newsweek will give in to this request? Nah.

144 Infidel in Atlanta  Tue, May 17, 2005 5:37:52am

"...Koran abuse..."
You've got to be shitting me.

145 Ghost of Raihana bint Amr  Tue, May 17, 2005 5:55:39am

41 Occasional Reader

The magazine's poorly-researched story
should have prompted nothing more lethal than strongly-worded letters from Muslims. Not murderous riots.


That's one of the most interesting aspects of this situation. It's two wrongnesses bumping up against each other.

-> The left-wing press adores muslims.
-> They surely realize that muslims can be incited to murder at the drop of a hat. It's just their culture, and we have to be sensitive to that, right?
-> The left-wing press was callously endangering the lives of the very muslims it loves so much.

Guess which wrongness is soft and squishy and which one is sharp and pointy?

146 Always right  Tue, May 17, 2005 6:07:13am

Oh, another thing.

White House, DoD (Pentagon), State Dept, and other official government need to clean house. Why do some of these employees feel the urge to spill any beans/leak informations/be the annonymous source?

Do they think that is patriotic to be the next "Deep Thoat"? Do they do it for the thrill? Do they really hate the symbol USA so much or just what GWB represents? Can't they accept the 2004 election results? You know both sides presented their case and American public made their choice.


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