Space constraints?

Close Gitmo!
We could use the guns in Iraq/Afghanastan. Bulldoze the whole thing - just don't move the prisoners!

Yes, For some reason in the last month there has been this all out campaign to close Gitmo. I don't know why they would want to do that as they would lose all the great"news" stories of torture, and koran abuse they spew in their articles.

I wonder how that word got dropped from Google’s headline?

You seem to be asking a rhetorical question, but how did the word get dropped. Aren't google headlines computer generated?
How does googlenews work?

/asking a serious question.

Outrage of the day. Gitmo serves us well and it's not going to close. What would closing it accomplish? The techniques we use for interrogation aren't going to change so what’s the point? Yet idiot politicians will continue to call for it.

That's a lie. He didn't say that--he said "there were no plans to close the facility." And then Scott McClellan said that that iwas concievable Gitmo might be closed someday.
Sheesh--i hate those guys.

We cannot afford to hand insurgents, Al Quada, and US Dems this propaganda victory; not can we gratify members of the irresponsible press.

Believe me ... closing Gitmo will do nothing ... because what the press is after is to find that Rummy called up a prison guard and personally instructed him/her to abuse prisoners. And, they're not going to stop because the real goal here is for some reporter to get to be Woodward and Bernstein.

And .. because the US Dems think that if the public feels vaguely about Republican handling of the war and prisoners ... they're more likely to vote Democrat.

That's how they did a number on the public during the Nam years ... and they dying to do it again.

GOOGLE as in Vast Left Wing Corporation, need I say more?

somebody at Google News put down the "Death to Amerikkka" sign long enough to edit the news feed

The headline comes from dailyindia.com's "recent News" feeds, which have the word "alleged" dropped. So I don't think Google did this. But Google ought to watch their ass regurgitating third world tripe like this..."Alleged child molester Michael Jackson" is a lot differnt than "child molester Michael Jackson", see?

#1 J.D. - LOL!

I agree with you; isn't Google's motto:
"All The News We have Space to Print" ?

I'm sure I'll get beaten to this post. Rush just mentioned this about 2 minutes ago. I have a feeling he's reading this.

If we really want to torture these subhumanoids, just show them the cover of that Hillary book.

They ought to renovate and expand GITMO^TM. To the tune of Christina Aguilera's "Dirty". Also direct some of them speakers at Havana and seed the clouds to make sure it happens on a sunny day.

Rowdy
(Let's get dirrty)
Gonna get a little unruly
(I wanna get dirrty)
Get it fired up in a hurry
(Let's get dirrty)
Wanna get dirrty
It's about time that I came to start the party
(Ooh yeah)
Sweat dripping over my body
(Let's get dirrty)
dancin getting just a little naughty
(Wanna get dirrty)
Wanna get dirrty
(Ooh yeah)
It's about time for my arrival

Someone please explain to me how their shares can trade for $281. What utter nonsense.

Believe me ... closing Gitmo will do nothing ...

That’s right they wont be happy until they have achieved their true goal: the Islamic conquest of the world. Meanwhile thank the Dems for continued appeasement they would rather see the Muslims take over than the Republicans win.

GO Dean GO …. GO Dean GO

/Dean Scream: YEEEAAA!

I agree that closing gitmo would give the enemy a victory. I'm also tired of these pundits on T.V. saying the President needs to go on air and explain what he is doing at Gitmo and the War on Terror. He does do that and the msm and even some of the "Conservatives " twist the words. The news conferences are particularly apalling. The questions asked of the President are incredible. Why bother?

Old story: Not always just what you say..Its what you DONT say..the words you DONT USE. Shoot... G-d have we all seen this before.

"Gulag of our time will stay open..." said Cheney, United States Vice President of Torture, today.

-MsM

I've stopped using Google, but I wonder, is Yahoo any better?

Cheney at National Press Club:

Moderator: How do you define excellence in journalism?

Cheney: I'll know it when I see it.

Smoooth..

I use dogpile to search, and I try to stay as far from google as possible and NEVER for the news according to them.

They OBVIOUSLY had to drop one word... and it was either Alleged or Torture.

we know the facility is there, so it can't be an "Alleged Facility"

but we KNOW there's torture there, so its a Torture Facility..

/Google-thought.

What is up with Google? Does anyone know why they have become so anti-US? Or are they just anti-Bush? Who are they? How are they funded? Why are their politics so Left, Left, Left?

In Google-eze office speak, this is referred to as colonating.

I wonder how that word got dropped from Google’s headline?

Easy- "alleged" is a code word used only for Dumbocraps, hence "alleged pervert Bill Clinton", etc.

The LLL and the MSM are deperate for anything that can be used to embarrass the President and damage the nation. They will stick with this one everyday right through the next Presidential election. By repeating the torture lies enough, people will accept it as fact. The MSM and the DNC know this and will betray the nation to our enemies just to seize power in the next election. Google has show its pro-LLL/DNC bias repeatedly.

How about we close Gitmo and ship these poor tortured souls up to Google headquarters?

Just airdop them on the grounds, defiled Korans and all, and let them have at it. Let's see how those sniveling little shits act then.

Now that's reality TV I'd like to see.

#27 has hit the nail right on the head. Its' an old cliche, but true. The msm doesn't care how many Americans die as long as they can re-claim the Presidency and Congress.

In other news, genocide and rape being committed by Muslims are still occuring in Sudan, terrorism against Israelis by Muslims is still occurring, hate crimes against Jews continue being committed in Europe by unassimilated Muslims, the rape rate in European countries is still higher than ususal because of unassimilated Muslims, and Muslims still plan to terrorize Americans. But that's not as bad as puppet show and Christina Aguilera music.

What, the MSM is pushing islamist propaganda? Just view the current sidebar to see contributions from Reuters and the Associated Press:

Palestinian Authority 'won't disarm militants' By Mohammed Assadi

The Palestinian Authority will not disarm militants until Israel ends its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as stated in a U.S.-backed peace plan, Foreign Minister Nasser al-Kidwa said on Monday.

"Under international law, the Palestinian people have the right to resist this occupation and defend themselves," Kidwa, the former Palestinian envoy to the United Nations

Got that? The "roadmap" states that the arabs don't have to disarm terrorist groups until after Israel's complete capitulation. This is supported by "international law" as well.

And for the AP:

Palestinian Groups: Israel Violated Truce By IBRAHIM BARZAK

Islamic militants Monday renewed threats to call off a cease-fire but said they would continue to observe the shaky truce despite a recent flare-up in fighting with Israeli troops.

The article never mentions what Israel did to "violate" the "truce". Nevertheless, the terrorists are portrayed as the ones keeping the "truce" alive with their tolerance and patience. The stage is also set to blame Israel for the eventual breakdown of the "truce".

A collapse in the 4-month-old truce would be a major setback for Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who hopes to restart peace talks with Israel. The Israelis have said there can be no peace talks until Abbas takes tougher steps toward reining in militants.

Abbas the peacemaker. Israel the warmonger, making demands that are clearly not supported by the "roadmap" (see Reuters article above).

These wire stories will be run in probably dozens if not hundreds of newspapers and websites in the next 24 hours in the US. Add to that the BBC, CBC, AFP, and Al Jizz propaganda machines, and it is no wonder why so many in this world sympathize with a group of head-chopping fascists.

I track google news and rank by score at my blog.

The Seattle Times story is the top story today, and ranked number 2 is 'British memo faulted US postwar plan'.

#30 Megan

Right

I was watching Fox news when this speech came on. I quickly switched to the Communist News Network (CNN) to see how they covered it. When Cheney started giving out the names of the AL Queda that were released already and ended up fighing against and killing our guys after release and the circumstances in which they were encountered again, CNN went to their Anchor to tell us how bad GITMO was and then they went to a commercial.

"Nothing to see here. Move along."
"These aren't the terrorists your looking for."

Effing traitorous bastards!

That certainly looks like a scrumptous honey glazed chicken you've prepared for the detainees who are being tortured, Mrs. Cleaver. Would you mind if I helped myself to some of the left over dates and nuts?

How bout moving all of the "GITMO detainees" into a square in downtown Sbrnica on a Sunday afternoon and hanging them for crimes committed against The WEST!

The West Is The Best.
The West Is The Best.

- Jim Morrison

Ah, Google...

I wonder how that word got dropped from Google’s headline?

Perhaps it got floogled?

Boogled?

So what's on the agenda if they're successful in getting Gitmo closed?
I say quit incarcerating and start shooting at capture.

#35 Eddie

I wish *I* ate as well as those prisoners... its a frozen tv dinner for lunch today...

Sometimes I think that only stupid people go to prison (because its dumb to commit crimes) but with how even these terrorists are treated, I'm starting to wonder if they're onto something.

There's a link to this page in the right panel:

This should be the real headline using both Google-speak and Google-thought:

Alleged news service Google alleges alleged VP Cheney allegedly made allegations that the alleged torture facility allegedly located at Guantanamo Bay, People's Paradise of Coo-ba, will allegedly stay open.

Google's headline has no periods in the abbreviations. Could be an algorithm doing that, but I do see some abbreviations there with periods...

It (Gitmo) is the only thing we got to go on... We got to keep working it... any other angle you guys can think of?

but it's been pounded to sand... don't you think we could cover the real news...

Hand over your keys to the building, pack your stuff in a box and get out... your fired...

/average working day at MSM

Hey this is good news. These terrorists don't think we'll touch them. Perhaps someone needs to tell them that the rules have changed.

Yo, terrorists, the US operates a torture facility. We don't put losers like Ted Kennedy or that guy in front of the White House screaming that Bush wants to steal our S.S. retirement. No, the torture facility is reserved for you guys!

That's right. You better make sure you can blow yourselves into a million pieces before we get our hands on you and dump you in a torture cell in Guantanamo.

Then you'll find out that the only virgin around is You! (but you won't be a virgin for long) Then when were done with you, were going to dump you in a country that claims to have invented torture.

Until every Muslim government and organization apologizes to the people of the World for the barbaric behavior of a goodly percentage of their people, no one owes them an apology for anything.

When I see how GOOD their prisoners are treated by us as opposed to how our prisoners are treated by them, it truly sickens me that these people are being given the moral high ground by the press.

Truly, the MSM press is now the worst enemy of this country, even more so than the Islamofascists and their allies.

A possibility, however, is that Google cached an earlier version of the headline, which was subsequently changed when someone at DailyIndia.com noticed the hits from Google and got anxious.

Someone please explain to me how their shares can trade for $281. What utter nonsense.

Hmmm, I'll tell you as soon as I cash in my Enron stock.

I caught GoogleNews red-handed the other day as well: not sure if anybody ever saw the evidence:

Google links to Socialist site on main page.

(This is a screenshot I made of the page before it disappeared.)

The headline says:

Bush at the OAS: a profile in imperialist hypocrisy.

World Socialist Web Site

And where do they propose to put these bastids
if not at Gitmo?
I know lets surrender them to the ones who so badly want them out of Gitmo.
How about married to each other with handcuffs?

Man this is beyond insane.

#39 lancekates:

And don't forget the free lapdances ... man, if I find out that they get HBO, I'm going to go all al-Jheka and get myself a suite ...

Google: the even-handed news aggregator:

World Socialist Web Site news links on Google right now.

They'll use Communists as a source, but not LGF.

ON THE OTHER HAND, they DO use (oddly) an anti-Democratic Party blog called

Dummocrats

It's just a lame blog that is openly partisan against the Democratic Party, much more so than LGF.

If anything proves that GoogleNews has a bias specifically against LGF, these two links prove it.

Its a shame it's NOT a torture facility.

It should be.

And every Al Jazeera/New York Times reporter should be shipped, post-haste, to the torture chambers for "re-orientation".

And the Google guys, too.

And Barbara Streisand.

/Is it only a matter of time before we see an Al Jazeera/NY Times merger?

Gee
Is
The
MSM
Obsessed

More Google bias uncovered!

Google censors anti-Clinton book ads

Google Censors Ads for Anti-Clinton Book

Google bans previously approved ads for book about the Clintons' abuse of power but leaves anti-Bush ads intact. The CEO's support of Hillary Clinton is questioned as a factor.

Los Angeles, CA (PRWEB) June 13, 2005 -- Popular search engine Google reversed course late last week and banned a previously approved online ad campaign for a new book that documents abuses of power by Bill and Hillary Clinton. The surprise move prompted the book's author and publishing house to publicly question if the politics of Google’s CEO - a financial backer of Hillary Clinton - played a role in this change of course.

“Google's decision to reverse its prior approval and shut down this banner ad campaign reeks of political bias,” charges Candice E. Jackson, the author of “Their Lives: The Women Targeted by the Clinton Machine” (World Ahead Publishing; hardcover: $25.95; ISBN 0974670138). “The company's liberal leanings are pretty widely known, but this example of blatant editorial censorship is still shocking.”

Who would think a company as innocuously, childishly named as "Google" could be so satanic.

You know what they say, when the dark lord comes he will not make himself easily known...

#48 zombie - excellent work (again!). I think it's time to put Google at the head of the pack of mutts. Course NYT, WaPo, Time and Newsweak will have a fit, but that's just icing on the cake!
Seriously zombie, you do consistently excellent work; please keep it up.

[Link: www.teoma.com...]

And the SF Chronicle is even worse than GoogleNews at times.

For example, right now on the SF Chronicle front page there is a headline that says

Quran's Message Of Peace

that links to THIS article about a Berkeley Muslim scholar with this jaw-dropping quote:

There are a certain number of Muslims who are taking their violent agenda and giving it a mask that is Islamic, but this is not what Islam is. I defy anyone to bring me one verse in the Quran that advocates violence. The Quran talks about fighting and other things, but always in self-defense, and even the verses that mention fighting say that peace is the way to go.

"F" Google and their "F-ing" slant.
Thanks for the note, Zombie, and excellent work.

Dan

Googles value is all smoke and mirrors the value is based soley on advertisers spending money there. They produce nothing of real substance. Thats what killed the dotcoms of the 90's is people realized there was nothing to the dotcoms. If people started to boycott google and its advertiser it would wither on the vine.

#56 realwest 
Seriously zombie, you do consistently excellent work; please keep it up.

Aw, shucks! But seriously, I'm no more special than anyone else; I can only hope to serve as an example. We should ALL be kicking ass and taking names at all times. If I can do it, y'all can do it. Make every comment count!

Besides which, you're a shining example of "excellent commenting" yourself!

"alleged" is only an adjective, and to be economical, this word was dropped. It is the only word that could be dropped. In reality, LLL PC dictates that it must be dropped. Anytrhing/anything that does not fit LLL bash USA agenda will automatically be dropped (always).

We can close Gitmo and move the terrorists in with Arianna Puffington. That whore is so worried about them, she probably wouldn't mind them hanging around her palace. Hope no harm comes to her.

Goddamnit! I just spent about 10 minutes working on a post about the affinity between the MSM and Islam and lost it to a DNS error on the preview page. This is the second time this has happened in the last 24 hours.
ALWAYS save your work here!

I don't know if this is a problem with the site or with SBC's piss-poor DSL service, but it is really irritating.

They should move Guitmo to Aruba. Then they wouldn't have to worry about modern justice. The old Napoleonic code will do. And the first new enrollee could be...drum roll, please...The Minister of "Justice".
Yes, that's the ticket. It's been awhile since we shook things up down there. Time to roll.

64 TFK

why not if accused of it / then do it/ damned if you
do damned if you don't

#66 Shiplord Kirel

I sympathize with you! It's happened to me a couple times recently too. I spent 20 minutes on one post that was lost! Now I try to remember EVERY TIME to do "select all" and "copy" to my comment before previewing it, in case the preview goes screwy. Then I can just reload the thread and paste it back in. Saved my butt a few times.

66 Shiplord Kirel

Not sure, but I will say that that the service that I've had from SBC DSL over the years has been as good as it gets. They have a quality product, but as tech goes, problems do come up from time to time, no matter what.

If you're in Texas or some other area exploited by the demonic SBC corporation, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES sign up for any of their services.
Their tech support is illiterate, repair response glacial or non-existent, service goes down at a whim, and their employees belong to the traitorous Communication Workers of America (parent gang of the Newspaper Guild, shameless promoters of the "US troops assassinate journalists" Goebbelism).

#44 FredFryInternational

You beat me to it. Send the suckers back to the middle east. Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq...

Let them deal with them. You wanna see missing fingernails! They will do it and not lose sleep.

#70 hepcat

Well, hep, it appears that our experiences are at variance.

Here's an interesting observation:
Of the current headlines displayed on news.google.com,

Blair pushes G8 goal of climate change
30 minutes
ElBaradei reappointed as UN nuclear chief
22 minutes
Iran accuses Saddam loyalists of deadly bombings
2 hours
Pressure to close Guantánamo grows
10 hours
British memo faulted US postwar plan
13 hours
Aoun Sets Back Anti-Syrian Opposition
23 minutes
Arlene Brought Wind, Rain and Little Else
10 hours
Suicide bomber wounds 4 US soldiers in Afghanistan
4 hours

Wanna start a pool on how many hours the gitmo story stays up "above the fold"?

#71 Shiplord Kirel

I use a cable modem to connect to the Net -- extremely fast, and I think better than DSL. Recently, I also went wireless with an Apple Airport Express, which is really great for "roving Web surfing", but I have noticed that about 10% of the time I have to click a link more than once for the connection to go through. Not sure what the deal is with that. But I think it's the wireless network's fault, not the cable modem.

I'd recommend investigating the cable route.

Shiplord @ 71

Is there any other company that offers DSL... up in Colorado I have to use a little local company for broadband... my place sits on top of a 7,000 ft Mesa with mountains ringing it... luckily they have a tower whose signal can reach here.

Shiplord,

If it's any consolation, I was cussing at my computer yesterday...

I just heard Charles Rangel on NPR say, in effect, that every American soldier has to worry about how he would be treated if captured by the enemy because of how the enemy perceives we treat them when captured.

(1) What difference does it make how we actually treat them, when their "perception" is that we "torture" detainees?

(2) And whose fault is that? Newsweak, Time, New York Times, Amnesty International, Jimmy Carter who keep claiming, CONTRARY TO FACT, that we "torture" detainees.

(3) American soldiers don't have to worry about how they'll be treated --- they KNOW how they'll be treated. They'll be beheaded, burned alive, dismembered, and hung from bridges.

This crap is infuriating.

71 Ship K.

Patience my friend, I know quite a few folks that work for SBC, their morale is high and I've always worked with knowlegable folks when I've made calls into DSL tech. BTW, their 2Wire wireless modem/router is an excellent, excellent product. And, I don't see Comcast offering their own wireless cable modem yet.

My SBC phone service is down right now, too (though dsl is obviously still working to some extent).
It rained recently.
If it rains for 10 minutes here in Lubbock, all kinds of things break down, intersections flood, and the yokels swarm into the streets and supermarkets out of apparent fear that the creek will rise and cut us off from the outside world for weeks at a time.

OK, now to damage my stellar reputation with a trivial and amusing OT post:

Am I the only one who never knew that uber-bling-bling capitalist rapist/boxer Mike Tyson has tattoos of Mao Tse-Tung and Che Guevara on his body?

Here's a good shot of his Che tattoo.

OK, Mike, can you spell "hypocrite" with me? H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E.

#62 zombie - why thankew, thankew very much.

I must say, though, that your #59 gave me pause: "...Berkeley Muslim scholar"; isn't that a double (or triple) oxymoron?!

#76 Bubble Girl
You might look into Covad. They are the providers that most DSL resellers (Verizon, Yahoo, etc.) resell from. They are attempting to bypass their business market and sell direct as of late. However, in your situation, you sound too far away from the central switch to even get DSL. Satellite is a possibility but not always satsfactory (slow, erratic in snow).

I'm completely on board with the anti-Google News comments (do we really need to go to al-jazeera to find a picture of our Veep?!?), but don't lump google and google news together.

Contrary to some of the comments, google does add value, and does it quite well. They doctor their results less than any other corporate portal, and have come up with genuine innovations in the field. There's a reason their stock price is so high (have you compared maps.google.com to yahoo's pathetic version?).

Again, down with google news, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

#80 hepcat:

And, I don't see Comcast offering their own wireless cable modem yet.

What I do is use a Comcast cable modem, then plug in a separate wireless broadcast device ("Airport Express") on my own.

Works great.

85 Bad Mushrooms

No, I do get DSL via a signal from a little local company, they have a tower on another mountain... been pretty good so far... better than the company I use in AZ... a much bigger well known one..

#87 Vercingetorix

I agree. GoogleNews it completely biased, but the Google search engine is by far the most thorough and I have never noticed any bias in it.

Let's just keep giving them flak on their news division.

@59 zombie

that links to THIS article about a Berkeley Muslim scholar with this jaw-dropping quote:

That has to be the understatement of the year!

Someone, puleeze hand this moslims ass to him!

#81 Shiplord Kirel -
"If it rains for 10 minutes here in Lubbock, all kinds of things break down, intersections flood, and the yokels swarm into the streets and supermarkets out of apparent fear that the creek will rise and cut us off from the outside world for weeks at a time."

LOL! Sorta like folks here in NYC when the Winter Forecast is for a Nor'Easter Blizzard.
Tremendous run on flashlight batteries, bottled water and the like. Friend of mine once said (as a real Nor'Easter Blizzard - which is not a joke, just the reactions to it-
started): "We ought to go down to the market and stock up on canned goods and sterno stoves." I answered, flippantly, that SHE should go do the shopping; I'd walk down 19 flights of stairs if I had to, but never UP!"
Hey, if any of youse'all need any flashlight batteries or cans of sterno fuel, just drop me a line; you get 'em free (just pay shipping costs).

#71 Shiplord Kirel 6/13/2005 12:07PM PDT

...if you, just occasionally, get DNS errors the problem is probably in a Domain Name Server you're using to resolve domain names to IP addresses...

I've had the same problem in the past and found that just switching to a different server fixed things.

If you're still getting the error, email me and I can get you to a different server.

Here's a screenshot of Google News on May 23.

That day they featured a story called 'Power Grab at the Height of the Empire' by Revolutionany Worker Online.

A visit to the Revolutionany Worker website and you see this: 'Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA"

#83 zombie

You assume Mike Tyson knows who those guys are. He also has (had?) a tatoo of Bart Simpson on the other arm.

Somehow I don't think Iron Mike has it all going on upstairs.

Any Virginian (USA) lizardoids please vote in Tuesday's primary. Tell JOhn F. Kerry's runningmate & hanger on wannabe it's time for a change of administrations in Ol' Virginny--enough of their abughraib/gitmo agitprop in Jihadi/illegal immigrant haven of Northern Virginia.

#94 eschew_obfuscation 6/13/2005 12:28PM PDT

#71 Shiplord Kirel 6/13/2005 12:07PM PDT

...if you, just occasionally, get DNS errors the problem is probably in a Domain Name Server you're using to resolve domain names to IP addresses.

This is also a known issue with Macintosh Safari and the mac version of firefox I believe...

Back on track:

There is an affinity between the institutional media culture and Islam.
Both are based on authority and emotion and are therefore fundamentally opposed to the post-Enlightenment values that have prevailed in the west since the 18th century.

After 40 years of media culture dominance, a large part of the US population is in open revolt against this unaccountable power.
For example, in the last election the support of media culture authority figure Michael Moore probably hurt John Kerry much more than it helped him. This possibility has not escaped the notice of certain Dem analysts, though the Party itself is more oblivious than ever to the decline of media power.
There are tentative signs that this kind of skepticism is spreading to certain parts of Asia and Europe, though the EU heartland remains firmly in the grip of the local MSM.
The US, after all, invented the saturation media and would therefore be farther along on the learning curve than any other area.

In Islamic countries, otoh, the populace is almost infantile in it credulity toward mass media. This is an expected and reasonable outcome to the sudden introduction of mass media into what is essentially a medieval, authoritarian culture. Remember that in yesterday's report about Allah turning a blasphemer into a dog, at least two of the locals cited television reports as their source for the story and, by implication, as the authority for their belief in its veracity.

Authority and emotion are the institutional media culture's stock in trade. There is almost no other way to effectively promote a product or idea in a high-impact video/sound bite. The loss of authority would be as serious a blow as the sudden disappearance of communications satellites. Media lords realize this and they spin their message accordingly. Muslim culture opposes many specifics of the media-oriented lifestyle; but the fundamentals, authority and emotion, are the same.

#77 Aladin Sane - You did more than just cuss at it! (didja finally take her out back and show her the pond?!).

And everybody - boycott HP products!

realwest,

I'm also in the NYC area, and whenever it snows, without fail, Ch. 5 has 'round the clock coverage from outside the Tick Tock Diner on Rt. 3 in Clifton, and then they station a guy at the Home Depot near me, watching the drones clear the shelves of shovels, salt, etc.

It always amazes me how unprepared these people are, as if they fell from the sky and they've never seen snow.

I don't know, maybe they just throw the shovels away after they use them.

#1 J.D
Sorry if this has been pointed out already and you may have been sarcastic when you said they may have dropped the word "alleged" because they ran out of space on the headline. That could be what they come up with as a pathetic excuse- limited space on the headline. But they could have easily phrased it:
USVP Chaney: Alleged Torture Camp to stay open.
In other words, they could have dropped the word "says" rather than "alleged" without actually changing the meaning.
Then again, if space is a concern, why not use:
"Devil says, hell to stay open, Angels to be tortured".
That's what they mean.

Subcontract the operation of Gitmo over to the Six Flags people. After waiting in line with hundreds of ill behaved whiny brats, anyone will talk! Maybe Disney would be better, chain the detainees in the gay day disco. This heat is making me more evil than usual.

@78 taxfreekiller

For once I've got to disagree with you.

I worked for the company that does all of the connexion, and tech support for SBC.
SBC does all of the preliminary for install as qualifying the telephone lines to the place of use, actual install and any repairs.
The company I worked for does everything else including inside connextion, outside box diagnosis, provisioning and engineering.
SBC is also the main owners of Ameritech, PacBell and a small phone company in Connecticut
(can't remember the name of it).
They're the best of a not so ideal service provider industry.

Shmoogle headline: Bill Clinton said raping his wife one weekend in Bermuda inconceivable. Says a Right Wing Cabal did it.

For example, in the last election the support of media culture authority figure Michael Moore probably hurt John Kerry much more than it helped him. This possibility has not escaped the notice of certain Dem analysts, though the Party itself is more oblivious than ever to the decline of media power.

And another way this hurts Dems? The Democratic party sees their views reflected positively on MSM, so they assume the vast majority of Americans share these views and values. The opposition is portrayed as ding bat wacko's (see West Wing and NYT's for instance).

Then when election results come in, Dems are surprised that Americans don't like gun control, abortion without restrictions or consequences, and reject the ACLU values.

Stop the world and all the planets, there is a verdict on the Wacko case, the media outlets are about to implode. Everyone in my office is pathetically glued to the tube...

#100 realwest

And everybody - boycott HP products!

Why?

IMHO leaving out the word alleged constitutes treason.

We are at war.

These islamics are enemies, they kill us whenever they can.

The US Constitution, Article III, Section 3 clearly defines what Google has done as treason: it aids the enemy.

This could not be more clear.

Newsweek too has aided the enemy.

Where is the attourney general?

Huh?

Foxnews says the verdict will be read at 1:30 PM LA time (4:30 PM, NY time)

They are broadcasting live from outside thje court.

110,

I declare him guilty.

Figures. Right when I'm in my car.

#106 Dave

I agree totally and have been saying that for some time.

The MSM and the Dems just don't get that. They talk to each other, reinforcing each others' opinions, and then they can't figure out WHO voted for Bush?

It's hilarious, really.

In their ooown little world.

#110

I predict Michael walks, even though it's pretty obvious he's a sicko.

People seem to have hang-ups about convicting celebrities of crimes. They just don't want to believe they are capable of doing them. See O.J. Simpson and Robert Blake.

#108 amir - see my (and others posts) at 408, et. seq. on the Sunday Miscellaneous Thread.

While we're waiting for the Jacko verdict, I will make my first public comment on this incredible circus.

Jackson is undoubtedly a creep and he is probably a pedophile, but I think he could well be innocent in this particular case.

The prosecution has the burden of proof and its case depends entirely on the word of witnesses whose credibility is in question, to say the least. There is no physical evidence or other verifiable corroboration, it is basically a matter of their word against his.
The accused has to have the benefit of the reasonable doubt, justice cannot be served any other way. If the prosecutors can't prove their case, and I don't think they have, the creep has to go free.
It is part of a procedure that is very necessary to the existence of a free and open society.

Verdict Reached in Jacko Case

This is from Fox...no verdict til the time announced; they Judge will allow him about a 15 minute window to be late..

An ambulance just pulled in to be on standby...the noise level of the crowd is scary...mob scene.

95 johnnyMC

Excellent catch, johnnyMC!

We've now got two incriminating screenshots nailing GoogleNews (comments #48 and #95 above) to complement Charles' original post. This is what the blogosphere is all about!

Am I the only one thinking the pest should be banned?

NO details on pedophiles verdict until 4:30 Eastern

#114 realwest

you're not the only one boycotting HP

BOYCOTT ISRAEL CAMPAIGN

ESCAPE FROM NEVERLAND

#107 Sean II  
Stop the world and all the planets, there is a verdict on the Wacko case, the media outlets are about to implode.

Oy vey. I'll just put my camera back in storage for a couple weeks. No use competing with the All Michael Jackson media frenzy.

EL GOGO, feh!

Data scrubbing @ Google is considered good daily high jinks.

#115 Shiplord Kirel

Jackson is undoubtedly a creep and he is probably a pedophile, but I think he could well be innocent in this particular case.

The testimony by his 1993 accuser was damning -- it's obvious why he elected to pay him off -- but you may be correct in this case. Not that it matters: no matter how compelling the evidence, celebrities will not be convicted of serious crimes in this country.

I'd love to be proved wrong, but I'm not expecting it.

Greetings, Shiplord.

How are things aboard the 127th Emperor Hetto these days?

#106 Dave

That is a very astute observation. The Dems believe that the media are a mirror, accurately reflecting the society in which they operate, as opposed to an active force seeking to control and change society for its own purposes.

They have forgotten Marshall McLuhan's famous dictum that the "Medium is the Message"; they still think it is the messenger.

The Michael Jackson Verdict, another reason why I wish California would fall into the Pacific.

Radio here (KNEW) reporting that Chuck Baker (R) of Nebraska, if I heard right; said that 'Gitmo is the (or one of) the reasons that we are losing the "image war" '...

WTF ! ? !

Did we F---ing care what the nazis thought of us in WW2?

#122 amir - yeah but my boycott is cause they make crappy products and provide limited and desultory tehc support at best. Has nothing to do with Israel (which, if you'd ever read some of my 2000+ posts, you would have known).

#128

I greet you, Bouzouki. Things are a bit slow these days. The not-Emperor Bush is having better luck than we did in pacifying Baghdad, but we still got our claws on the Big Ugly agitator Khomeini, something the American Big Uglies did not manage.
They did grab the ugliest Big Ugly of all, Saddam, though, and I hope they send him Khomeini's direction pretty soon.
I regret to see that the Houses of Superstition are doing better than ever. I knew we had the germ of a good idea when we tried to tax them out of business.
This EU not-Empire is a disturbing development, probaby a consequence of the Third Reich not being nuked out of existence in this universe.

#133 realwest

I don't know about thier other products but I 'll just keep my HP Calculator if yoa don't mind.

best damn calc money can buy

#129

The Dems believe that the media are a mirror, accurately reflecting the society in which they operate, as opposed to an active force seeking to control and change society for its own purposes.

Good line Shiplord. You said it better then me.

I first heard this concept in 2000. A commentator said that Gore may have lost because he thought everyone was for gun control. MSM portrays pro-gun people as only a handful of right wing nut cases. So naturally he assumed that by opposing 2nd amendment rights, he'd come out ahead. He didn't even carry his home state and that may be due to this.

#130 templar

Ouch. What about us Lizardoids out here?

Realwest

I didn't mean to imply anything about you with that comment.
I googled boycott HP when I read your comment to see what that was about and hit that page.
I used to have an HP printer and the power supply went. It was cheaper to buy a new Epson printer (and their ink is cheaper) than to fix the old printer.

That's nothing. A few days ago, Google News put a link to this gem on their front page from WorkersWorld (Workers.org):

Iraq resistance strong, popular anger growing

President George W. Bush’s practiced smiles and his cronies’ anxious denials can’t hide the truth: Exposures of prisoner abuse, the military recruiting crisis, the instability of Washington’s client regime in Baghdad, and especially the powerful resistance movement are slamming the U.S.-led occupation.

Inexorably, inevitably, the skein of lies holding together the occupation of Iraq is coming undone.

Resistance fighters have doubled their daily attacks since April, the Pentagon admitted on May 31. At least 77 U.S. troops were killed in May.

That is the highest number since January, when U.S.-sponsored national elections were held, Reuters reported. The Associated Press put the number of U.S. casualties for the month at 80.

Military actions by the resistance slow ed briefly after the Jan. 30 elections. That led Bush & Co. to virtually crow, “Mission accomplished,” all over again. The military brass spoke of reducing troop numbers by the end of the year—not as a move to end the occupation, but because they believed Iraq would shortly be “pacified.”

Instead, it appears the resistance had made a strategic decision: to retreat temporarily, giving the new occupation-sponsored government time to expose its true character to any Iraqis who might have harbored hopes that the election would herald the end of foreign occupation.

...

Could they be any more gleeful as they tally the number of dead American troops?

Workers.org, a paragon of objective, unbiased journalistic integrity, has links on its homepage to:

Workers World Party: "Fighting for Socialism"
FIST (Fight Imperialism Stand Together)
Millions4Mumia.org
LeftBooks.com
International Action Center: "Information, Activism, and Resistance to U.S.
Militarism, War, and Corporate Greed,
Linking with Struggles Against Racism and Oppression
within the United States"

139 amir
Speaking of printers - I ahve always liked Canon printers.

One fringe benefit of a guilty verdict in the Jacko case:

Many of the MSM on the scene report that the assembled hordes of Jackson supporters are in an ugly mood and that their wrath is directed specifically at the media. I saw one brief report in which an alarmed talking head indicated that Jacko fans were screaming obscenities and threats from the other side of a flimsy barrier just 15 feet away.
She sounded just like a war correspondent ducking a mortar barrage in Baghdad.
Media beasts will almost always exaggerate a threat to themselves if it heightens the drama, but there is always the hope slight possibility that the Jacksonites will go completely batshit and massacre the lot of them.

#137 UFO TOFU

Perhaps that was a bit harsh. I'd settle for San Francisco and few other selected enclaves to be turned into Federally Protected Moron Preserves isolated from the rest of the population, and the carpet bombing of Berkley. The rest of the state can be annexed into the Greater Federal Republic of Jesusland. Afterall, we'd just have to fight the Canadians for it and that shouldn't prove too difficult =D

#134 Shiplord Kirel

This EU not-Empire is a disturbing development, probaby a consequence of the Third Reich not being nuked out of existence in this universe.

Regrettable, indeed.

Lovely body paint, by the way.

ploome (#131):

which pest?

taxfreekiller.

This whole "image war" idea is simply absurd. To Islamic countries, America has been the "great Satan," festering cesspit of infidels, pick your epithet, for decades, long LONG before even the first detainee arrived in GTMO. To say that GTMO is the cause of an "image" problem among Muslims is prime example of the false causation fallacy, also known as cum hoc ergo propter hoc, Latin for "with this, therefore because of this."

Basically that's a real fancy, roundabout way of saying Baker's a moron.

#137 UFO TOFU

And family and friends...Hollywood and the cult of celebrity are not California...this phenomonon was created by all of us...and it is time to realize that, especially after the past few elections, these over-payed, over-hyped spoiled brats do not deserve the attention and adoration they receive. Better to give it to scientists, and to our military, and especially our Government...

Far too many of these jackasses are idiot savants.

I wonder if Sadamn's trial will get this much attention.

Sorry no linky, ..BUT...

Has anyone else heard anything about Google trying to open a branch in Israel?

This may be a rumor, but I heard that they are looking for people to take some tech positions here...

All I can say is - Screw them. If it's true, We need to open up a can of whoop-ass to the Israeli media. There's enough links from LGF alone to prevent that from happening, these anti-Jews pieces of excrement

#149 Alkmyst

Google to launch Israeli subsidiary, challenging local Internet portals

Charles has an open thread to discuss the Jordan verdict.

#149 Alkmyst

Here is the Hebrew Google.

In regards to the alleged torture...In the words of our esteemed Jr. Senator(Thurston Howell III voice) "Would that it were."

According to a recent Time magazine article, military intelligence officials at Guantanamo Bay got permission to use intensive interrogation techniques on two prisoners, including dripping water on prisoner's heads, strip-searching and making prisoners stand nude, sleep deprivation, and forcing prisoners to urinate in their pants after not allowing them to use bathroom facilities during extended interrogations.

My interpretation:

Zarqawi and his murderous thugs tortured, maimed, bound, gagged, and beheaded Americans.

How does this compare to letting them pee their pants and standing nude, not sleeping?

#151 NY Nana 6/13/2005 01:40PM PDT

#149 Alkmyst

Google to launch Israeli subsidiary,

Thanks - it might be easier than expected them... anyone reading Haaretz in Israel is probably more worried about their pocketbook than whether or not Google is Anti-Jew.

Prehaps we should start our own search program.

The software is basically public domain, the question is response time. At present I Alta Vista

OT: Cuse I cant get into the Jackson thread. So predictable. Got away with it.. Knew he would. Sheesh OJ 2.

It's still showing up in a search of google news: USVP Cheney Says Torture Facility Will Stay Open

Amir: "You seem to be asking a rhetorical question, but how did the word get dropped. Aren't google headlines computer generated? "

They can't be computer generated. If a computer drops a word, it isn't smart enough to know which word to drop and still maintain sense to the sentence.

Someone typed the headline in... with the word "alleged" removed.

it's a foregone conclusion that Gitmo is closing down. I give it 4-5 months. Bush has already laid the groundwork, Bill Kristol is not helping mattesrs, a good fuck you to Chuck Hagel.

What a bunch of spineless bastards the republicans are turning out to be. They don't know how to fight for anything.

Sleeper Cell

No. 162 jlfintx: My thoughts exactly. When are we going to fight this war to win it? It will go on forever at this rate. And Bush is losing rating points in approval because he won't tell the truth that almost everyone knows – the terror is coming from islam and the enemy is islam. And a leader can't be a strong leader if he doesn't tell the truth. And I want to win. Most Americans want to win this war. And we can't see any victory ahead. it's murky. Its driving me nuts!

Speaking of torture and gulag in Guantanamo, maybe the Shaolin Temple should be closed : [Link: ninja-blog.blogspot.com...]

Maybe DailyIndia previously lacked "alleged" in the headline, and then later on added it to the headline, but google uses the old headline.

Anyone know of a "non-partisan" search engine?
If not, someone outght to get busy on one...
Yogs

Maybe we could do a search and find the missing word...

google stock will be worth a dollar in two years