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Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 1:13:31 pm PDT

Yesterday, House Democrats staged a mock impeachment hearing for George W. Bush—and the loonies came out to play. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)

The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration “neocons” so “the United States and Israel could dominate that part of the world.” He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

“Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation,” McGovern said. “The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic.”

Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq’s threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his “candid answer.”

At Democratic headquarters, where an overflow crowd watched the hearing on television, activists handed out documents repeating two accusations — that an Israeli company had warning of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that there was an “insider trading scam” on 9/11 — that previously has been used to suggest Israel was behind the attacks.

The event organizer, Democrats.com, distributed stickers saying “Bush lied/100,000 people died.” One man’s T-shirt proclaimed, “Whether you like Bush or not, he’s still an incompetent liar,” while a large poster of Uncle Sam announced: “Got kids? I want yours for cannon fodder.”

Conyers’s firm hand on the gavel could not prevent something of a free-for-all; at one point, a former State Department worker rose from the audience to propose criminal charges against Bush officials. Early in the hearing, somebody accidentally turned off the lights; later, a witness knocked down a flag. Matters were even worse at Democratic headquarters, where the C-SPAN feed ended after just an hour, causing the activists to groan and one to shout “Conspiracy!”

This is just more evidence that the Democratic Party is in deep, deep trouble.

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1 voletti  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:15:08am

What do the Democrats have to do to get really into trouble?

2 voletti  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:15:41am

Buggers seem to get away with bloody everything.

3 Cole Slaw  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:16:02am

Were's Chuck Schumer on all this?

4 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:17:17am

Life imitates Scrappleface.

Okay, I think it's high time for me to drop my Democrat registration.

5 rightasrain  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:17:50am

Cue Cuckoo Clock wav file. :)

These guys are BANANAS!

6 Barking Pumpkin  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:17:50am

If we went to war for oil, how come I'm paying $2.37 a gallon for gas?

7 Semi  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:18:29am

This is beyond unhinged. They're playing make-believe now? Unfreakinbelievable.

8 Sword Saint  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:19:10am

It's fitting that they were down in the basement.

9 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:19:11am

McGovern was an "intelligence" analyst and all he came up with was jooos made us do it. PS, I did my darndest to unseat moonbat Jim Moran of Northern Jihadi Virginia Congression District 8 next to our Nation's Capital.

10 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:19:57am

Uh, I think PEST is getting out of hand. They are now reduced to play acting their fantasies. The scariest thing is that they don't see how terribly crazy their actions are.

11 rightasrain  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:20:57am

Wait a minute...

If Bush supposedly KNEW that Iraq had no WMDs, then why would Bush think it was necessary to go to war to PROTECT ISRAEL FROM SADDAM?!?

What sort of danger would Israel be in if Saddam didn't have WMDs?

The Dems/Liberals stories are starting to TRIP OVER EACH OTHER.

12 Capt. Queeg  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:21:21am

While it's undeniable that the Democrats are in deep trouble, I don't see the Republicans doing much to counter this sort of moonbatery.

These types of ravings can, and do, swing popular sentiment if left unchallenged.

13 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:21:44am

Behold the self-destruction of the Democratic Party!

14 W-lover  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:21:48am

How much money did this cost?

15 Sir Lurksalot  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:22:18am

Did they have a big hook nosed puppet with his hand up the back of a smaller W puppet?

16 Studsup  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:22:21am

#3 cole slaw -- "Were's Chuck Schumer on all this?"

Probably in the back room feverishly drafting the Articles of Impeachment.

17 rightasrain  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:22:44am

Matters were even worse at Democratic headquarters, where the C-SPAN feed ended after just an hour, causing the activists to groan and one to shout “Conspiracy!”

This is their life: conspiracy theories.

18 christheprofessor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:23:42am

Is this what we are paying these arseholes to do? The taxpayer should be reimbursed their salaries for the time they wasted on this.

19 Athos  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:23:54am
Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq’s threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his “candid answer.”

Candid answer. Is that the newspeak for accepting idiocy, anti-semitism, and providing aid and comfort to the enemy?

20 rosh  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:24:27am

15

Did they have a big hook nosed puppet with his hand up the back of a smaller W puppet?


Yah. Exactly. Moving to Israel is starting to sound more and more like a good idea all the time. It's really really 1939 all over again. Actually I'd put it more at ... ohhh, roughly 35.

21 Dianna  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:24:43am

#11 rightasrain

Acute observation.

Funny how the left can't make it.

22 goldsmith  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:24:59am

Don't think for a minute that, should this array of nuts and fruitcakes that was once the Democratic party somehow win the midterms, they won't try to make their fantasy impeachment into reality.

Then what happens?

23 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:25:05am

Whew - sorry youse'all, hadda get some work done and, say, how do all those "activists" get so much time to engage in that tomfoolery, anyway?

24 not neo just conservative  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:25:06am

You Democrats go play in that room over there while the adults take care of the nations business. Run along now.

25 Doug  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:25:10am

Doesn't this all smack of Maoist China and Stalinist USSR?

These people live in a dream world.

I will NEVER come back to the Democratic party!

26 TimK  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:26:09am

This is what they have to do to get attention.
Demographics are working against them.
The Red States will most likely remain the Red States.
The Republicans have been in charge of the geremandering of the various legislative districts for the last decade, which means continued control of the House of Representatives.
More Red States mean that it is more likely for there to be more Republican Senators.
Not a good picture for the LLL. More of the Democratic Representatives come from "safe" areas or States so they can reflect the moonbats that elected them.
But are the moonbats in charge of the country as a whole? Hell no. Can they piss us off.

27 quark2  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:26:22am

Oh My G-d!

Literally.

28 not neo just conservative  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:26:30am

#20 rosh

Moving to Israel is starting to sound more and more like a good idea all the time. It's really really 1939 all over again. Actually I'd put it more at ... ohhh, roughly 35.

Care to expand on that?

29 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:26:49am

Democrats: The party of disaffected 13-year-olds

30 rosh  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:26:50am

I'd call to protest but words fail me. If they don't have an inkling of why their behavior might be a problem -- i.e. no shame -- then what can I say to clue them in? Same with Durbin. No clue, no shame.

31 Steffan  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:26:54am

Ok, what have they been smoking and why aren't they sharing?

32 Aladin Sane  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:26:55am

Are these people nuts?

33 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:27:11am

18 ctp

You took the words right out of my mouth!

(it must have been while you were kissing me)

Seriously - these people have no grasp on reality. Now they're acting out their fantasies?

34 Athos  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:28:13am

#22

Then what happens?

They will become worse. All that they have left at this point is derangement and frustration. Clearly they don't have any constructive ideas left.

35 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:28:37am
36 davic  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:28:43am

I had CSPAN on late last night and had this on in the background while working. It didn't register that this was a whole charade. I remember thinking for a fleeting moment that the committe meeting looked a little sparse and strange, like it was held in someone's garage. The reasons for this did not occur to me at the time. It was definitely a big anti-bush hate fest and made to appear like an actual Congressional hearing with all sorts of witnesses testifying about how bush lied and people died.

Thanks to the blogs for putting this in perspective.

37 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:28:44am
Are these people nuts?

Is that a trick question?

38 Jheka  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:28:48am

There's no anti-Semitism there!

/Alan111

39 W-lover  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:29:17am
Ok, what have they been smoking and why aren't they sharing?

Nothing. We're all waiting for Keith Richards to die so we can smoke his ashes. ;)

40 keepandbear  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:29:26am

#28nnjc

I'd swear he just called America, Nazi Germany.

I thought only the loonies did that. must be a LINO

41 rosh  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:29:26am

28 not neo
It's not time for the physical violence against Jews (in America) yet, so I dialed down the crisis-meter a little. In Europe it's probably more like mid-1940. And it doesn't have to take an entire year to advance my internal 1930s-o-meter.
This is all rough guesstimates based on my rough recollections of what happened when.

42 foreign devil  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:29:44am

There are none so blind as those who will not see!

43 Athos  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:30:27am

#24 not neo

You Democrats go play in that room over there while the adults take care of the nations business. Run along now.

I think we also need to remind them to not run with sissors, stop placing plastic bags over their heads, stop sniffing glue, and that repeatedly pounding their heads against the wall will not cure their frustrations.

44 W-lover  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:30:38am

And why was C-SPAN covering this?

45 TMF  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:31:25am

When your conspiracy theories are the same as that of the terrorists, you know your fucked.

By the way, ZAWAHIRI IS BACK, basically making the same claims about Jew/America/Crusader world domination as the Democrats.

Great job Donks! You just got a new party chairman!

46 BEAM  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:31:31am

I watched this so-called "hearing" yesterday, and mostly I was struck by the complicit dishonesty of our so-called representatives. They completely ignored all evidence which happens to conflict with the premise of the "Downing Street Memo", such as this other memo reported in the New York Times:

Prewar British Memo Says War Decision Wasn't Made


Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't these men and women actually sworn to uphold the integrity of the Congress? They failed to do so by not showing even a mild interest in getting to the actual truth.

It was really a disgrace. In all my years of being a C-Span junkie, I've never seen such a willful attempt to mislead the American public. In the end I was just glad and proud that my congresswoman didn't show up.

Mr. Conyers seems like a very nice man, but he's trying to run some kind of a scam and should apologize for his attempts to mislead.

47 ggt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:31:46am

If we went to war for oil, why are we doing this?

[Link: renewableenergyaccess.com...]

48 Jheka  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:31:53am

At any given time on DU there are a bunch of threads on how the impeachment will happen, what will happen after impeachment, how impeachment will lead to a Democrat as President, etc. They are entirely, completely unhinged (and that includes a (un)healthy portion of the "leadership").

49 keepandbear  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:32:40am

Run along Rosh

If thats the way you feel. Or you can stay here and fight with the rest of us.

PICK your side

50 johnCV  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:33:06am

Here's a letter by conyers to the WaPo complaining about milbanks' report. From comments section of RWN (sorry can't find link to actual letter)


Mr. Michael Abramowitz, National Editor
Mr. Michael Getler, Ombudsman
Mr. Dana Milbank
The Washington Post
1150 15th Street, NW
Washington, D.C. 20071

Dear Sirs:

I write to express my profound disappointment with Dana Milbank's June 17 report, "Democrats Play House to Rally Against the War," which purports to describe a Democratic hearing I chaired in the Capitol yesterday. In sum, the piece cherry-picks some facts, manufactures others out of whole cloth, and does a disservice to some 30 members of Congress who persevered under difficult circumstances, not of our own making, to examine a very serious subject: whether the American people were deliberately misled in the lead up to war. The fact that this was the Post's only coverage of this event makes the journalistic shortcomings in this piece even more egregious.

In an inaccurate piece of reporting that typifies the article, Milbank implies that one of the obstacles the Members in the meeting have is that "only one" member has mentioned the Downing Street Minutes on the floor of either the House or Senate. This is not only incorrect but misleading. In fact, just yesterday, the Senate Democratic Leader, Harry Reid, mentioned it on the Senate floor. Senator Boxer talked at some length about it at the recent confirmation hearing for the Ambassador to Iraq. The House Democratic Leader, Nancy Pelosi, recently signed on to my letter, along with 121 other Democrats asking for answers about the memo. This information is not difficult to find either. For example, the Reid speech was the subject of an AP wire service report posted on the Washington Post website with the headline "Democrats Cite Downing Street Memo in Bolton Fight". Other similar mistakes, mischaracterizations and cheap shots are littered throughout the article.

The article begins with an especially mean and nasty tone, claiming that House Democrats "pretended" a small conference was the Judiciary Committee hearing room and deriding the decor of the room. Milbank fails to share with his readers one essential fact: the reason the hearing was held in that room, an important piece of context. Despite the fact that a number of other suitable rooms were available in the Capitol and House office buildings, Republicans declined my request for each and every one of them. Milbank could have written about the perseverance of many of my colleagues in the face of such adverse circumstances, but declined to do so. Milbank also ignores the critical fact picked up by the AP, CNN and other newsletters that at the very moment the hearing was scheduled to begin, the Republican Leadership scheduled an almost unprecedented number of 11 consecutive floor votes, making it next to impossible for most Members to participate in the first hour and one half of the hearing.

In what can only be described as a deliberate effort to discredit the entire hearing, Milbank quotes one of the witnesses as making an anti-semitic assertion and further describes anti-semitic literature that was being handed out in the overflow room for the event. First, let me be clear: I consider myself to be friend and supporter of Israel and there were a number of other staunchly pro-Israel members who were in attendance at the hearing. I do not agree with, support, or condone any comments asserting Israeli control over U.S. policy, and I find any allegation that Israel is trying to dominate the world or had anything to do with the September 11 tragedy disgusting and offensive.
cont next post

51 DoctorDentons  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:33:17am

John Conyers has gone past pathetic to completely certifiable. Are we really going to let people like this serve in Congress. The moonbat quotient in Congress has to be past meltdown. People WAKE UP... these are the people that are elected to RUN OUR COUNTRY!

52 Deuce  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:33:19am

Really, I wouldn't vote for a Democrat now unless I was dead and buried in Chicago. This basement make-believe is unbelieveable. Zell Miller's description as a once-great party was an understatement. It is an unhinged party now in implosion.

53 TMF  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:33:20am

Quote from new Zawahiri video courtesy of Al Jizzeera:

The removal of the Crusader and Jewish invaders won't occur by peaceful demonstrations," he said in a brief clip shown on the pan-Arab network. "Reform and expelling the invaders from the countries of Islam won't happen except through fighting for God's sake."

Is that what they call blowing yourself up? "Fighting"? Bwhahahahahahahaha!

54 johnCV  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:33:27am

contd.

That said, to give such emphasis to 100 seconds of a 3 hour and five minute hearing that included the powerful and sad testimony (hardly mentioned by Milbank) of a woman who lost her son in the Iraq war and now feels lied to as a result of the Downing Street Minutes, is incredibly misleading. Many, many different pamphlets were being passed out at the overflow room, including pamphlets about getting out of the Iraq war and anti-Central American Free Trade Agreement, and it is puzzling why Milbank saw fit to only mention the one he did.

In a typically derisive and uninformed passage, Milbank makes much of other lawmakers calling me "Mr. Chairman" and says I liked it so much that I used "chairmanly phrases." Milbank may not know that I was the Chairman of the House Government Operations Committee from 1988 to 1994. By protocol and tradition in the House, once you have been a Chairman you are always referred to as such. Thus, there was nothing unusual about my being referred to as Mr. Chairman.

To administer his coup-de-grace, Milbank literally makes up another cheap shot that I "was having so much fun that [I] ignored aides' entreaties to end the session." This did not occur. None of my aides offered entreaties to end the session and I have no idea where Milbank gets that information. The hearing certainly ran longer than expected, but that was because so many Members of Congress persevered under very difficult circumstances to attend, and I thought - given that - the least I could do was allow them to say their piece. That is called courtesy, not "fun."

By the way, the "Downing Street Memo" is actually the minutes of a British cabinet meeting. In the meeting, British officials - having just met with their American counterparts - describe their discussions with such counterparts. I mention this because that basic piece of context, a simple description of the memo, is found nowhere in Milbank's article.

The fact that I and my fellow Democrats had to stuff a hearing into a room the size of a large closet to hold a hearing on an important issue shouldn't make us the object of ridicule. In my opinion, the ridicule should be placed in two places: first, at the feet of Republicans who are so afraid to discuss ideas and facts that they try to sabotage our efforts to do so; and second, on Dana Milbank and the Washington Post, who do not feel the need to give serious coverage on a serious hearing about a serious matter-whether more than 1700 Americans have died because of a deliberate lie. Milbank may disagree, but the Post certainly owed its readers some coverage of that viewpoint.

Sincerely,

John Conyers, Jr.

55 rosh  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:34:11am

You think Israel isn't fighting on America's side, keepandbear?

56 rw in san diego  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:34:53am

This is so sick. If this is on tape, it should be available to all and played in the MSM (yeah, right) so all can see just who these fools are.

Conyers, have you lost your mind?

57 Deuce  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:34:59am

Conyers to Millbank, short version: how dare you point out we have no clothes on.

58 DoctorDentons  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:35:02am

Next time they go down to the basement somebody LOCK THE FREAKING DOOR.

59 jgold  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:35:28am

What no Cynthia McKinney?

60 DIAMONDMASC  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:36:04am

This from the people who want to run this country?. This should be played on every major media source to illustrate what happens (and what would happen) when you let your friends vote for democrats

61 Sabba Hillel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:36:27am

“Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation,” McGovern said. “The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic.”

Maybe because, as he just proved, he is an anti-semite.

62 SoCalJustice  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:36:40am
Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq’s threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his “candid answer.”


Nice to see that Jim "If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this ... [t]he leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going, and I think they should" Moran hasn't learned a thing.

Prick.

63 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:36:59am

Was Moran one of the Three Stooges that went to Baghdad before the war, to shine Saddam's nob?

64 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:37:42am

...Democrats playing "house"...

What a joke!

65 foreign devil  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:37:48am

#46 Beam:

Mr. Conyers may seem like a very nice man but he's not. In the run up to the election, he and Charlie Rangel put forth a proposal that the draft be brought back. It was all done by them on the q.t. and then when the Democrats started saying there was a rumor the draft was coming back and implying it was at Republican instigation, their proposal was at the root of the claim. No one bothered to admit that it was two Democrats who'd proposed the Bill. That' how politics works; smear the other guy with something you've done yourself!

He's a very wily corrupt old fox. Maybe evil is too harsh a word but 'corrupt' and extremely 'biased' would be more fitting.

66 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:37:57am

#43 Athos - Why?

67 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:38:44am

#8 Sword Saint

It's fitting that they were down in the basement.

In their underwear. Eating Cheetos.

/obscure sportstalk radio reference

68 mkultra  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:38:49am

Fools..! Simpletons...don't you know that Karl Rove kicked the cord and caused the lights to go out. He was disguised as a Mosad Agent at that time.

Now that's what I call deep cover.

...opps sorry I thought I was posting at the
BlameBush website.

69 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:39:16am

#40 rosh:

In Europe it's probably more like mid-1940.

Careful with the hyperbole. By that time, even though it was pre-Wannsee, the Einsatzgruppen had already killed about a million Jews. Anti-semitism in Europe is bad now, but let's keep a sense of proportion.

70 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:40:01am

#65 foreign devil

He's a very wily corrupt old fox. Maybe evil is too harsh a word but 'corrupt' and extremely 'biased' would be more fitting.

How about traitorous?

71 jefferson12  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:40:35am

At what point does a mock "impeachment" hearing stop being playacting and become actual insurrection?

72 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:41:24am

More fodder for talk radio.

Keep it up Dems. Remember the Whigs? The Know-Nothings?

73 Dianna  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:41:27am

Milbanks thought what he was witnessing was ludicrous, and it was. What a shock to the system for the Democrats!

Please note that, in addition, it was in an opinion column, Milbanks' "Washington Sketch." This was not in the news section.

74 Wetfun  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:41:37am

Please, Please keep explaining just who you are and what you stand for, please.

75 Dime IV  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:41:53am

WTF?!

I just don't know what to say. I was trying to think of some pithy bon mot, but this development has just subverted my sensibilities--literally and figuratively.

Fuck the LLL. And I'm talking Greek-style.

Joel T.

76 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:42:10am

Sigh. My congress person Jim Moran strikes again. Can't we please get rid of him? Or trade him- any takers?

77 scaramouche  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:42:21am

The deranged Dhimmicrats sing:

We say we want a revolution,
Well you know,
We are want to change the world.
We're acting really rootin' tootin'
Well you know,
We all need to change the world.
So if at the moment it still seems so out of reach,
All we can do is to stand up and Shout "IMPEACH".
And ya know it makes us feel
Alright.
And you know it makes it feel
Upright...

78 Cole Slaw  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:42:39am

John CV

Thanks for the cut and paste job on Conyers' letter. Seems like a very hasty damage control job is now underway by the DEMS before this one gets too far.

79 rosh  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:42:50am

#69 Occasional Reader

let's keep a sense of proportion


Well, I did say this was my rough guesstimate. I realize a million people have not fallen victim to Eurabia yet. Clearly the 1930s aren't going to repeat themselves step-by-step.
But the open anti-semitism displayed by McGovern and "appreciated" instead of denounced by Moran makes one remember that those who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

80 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:42:58am

#58

And turn off the lights.

81 keepandbear  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:43:24am

Yes I know Israel is fighting on Americas side.

As much as our respective national securities will allow( as perceived by our respective leaders}

If I got to choose Israel would have a free hand in the ME with all the material and Monies she needed to solve the problem.

Israel is doing things now I never thought they would do. giving op land for nothing other than empty promises. That all you'll ever get out of the present crop of muslim leaders as they are all lead by the nose by their religion.

In my opinion Israel should tell US the US to FO and take care of business. We'd make a bunch of noise but we would get on board. I do not believe, as some do here, that Bush is anti-Semitic. He would get behind israel if they put their foot down but if their gonna play politics he has to too.

If you live in Israel then ignore my statement. It doesn't apply. If you live here, then get behind and push or get out with the other dead weight (liberals DNC Greenies etc) and we'll move on.

like I sasdi my statements only apply to an American, not someone from another country

82 rosh  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:44:12am

#76 Jim in Virginia

Sigh. My congress person Jim Moran strikes again. Can't we please get rid of him? Or trade him- any takers?


Illinois will trade you for Durbin of you throw in a goat and 2 chickens.

83 SoCalJustice  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:45:29am

BTW, the NY Times and the BBC also covered this same story, but they left out any mention of the Jew/Israel baiting angle.

Milbanks deserves credit for highlighting the repeated nutiness of Moran and his buddy McGovern, as well as the even nuttier "activists" handing out the Raimondo-esque pamphlets re: Israel and 9/11.

Jeebus.

84 john jay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:45:34am

This is bad for people who voted Bush/Republican last election. The Democrats are getting so loony that they might completely implode as a viable party. If that happens, the Reps. won't have any competition, and God knows, the current bunch in power is definitely fallible.

I voted for Bush, but I don't like about half of his decisions in this war. Resolve to fight the war? Yes. How he's fighting the war? Not so much. Without someone to provide a viable alternative, the Reps. have no one to be accountable to. When the Dems. fail, it really does seem to be bad for the country.

That all being said. The guys in the article are creeps and wackos and should be voted out of office, as should everyone who agrees with them.

85 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:45:35am
86 The Real Richard  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:45:49am

“Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation,” McGovern said. “The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic.”

Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq’s threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his “candid answer.”

How fitting that Rep. James P. Moran Jr should be asking the question. So when does David Duke get to testify?

87 Studsup  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:45:52am

This is astonishing and it went on for 3.5 hours? This is the equivalent of moonbat street theatre only it's coming from real elected members of Congress. Conyers seemed put out that the scheduled floor votes, the real work of adults in Congress, keep many Democrats from being on hand to participate in the playacting.

What's next, Dick Durbin going to use the basement to put our troops on mock trial in a production of "Guantanamo: The Unfinished Work of Nuremburg"?

88 manker  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:46:05am

Ah yes the "double blame game" with Israel

The "double blame game" is pretty much what the LLL has been using as its main ammunition. This is also used agaisnt the US but more common with Israel.

VDH missed this example in his latest masterpiece about the modern left and the connection between the jihadists. The same words coming out of the pali's mouth is identical to this.

The way it works is by blaming Israel for two contradricting things. The LLL and Jihadists now blame Israel for being a wuss/massive weakling, who hides behind the purse strings of the 'mommy' (the US). Hamas and the Arab states chest beat about how Israel can be easily defeated by doing a simple puff, less effort than blowing out the candles on a birthday cake. The LLL say the same thing, in that Israel only continues to exists because of American protection and presence in the middle east. Never mind the previous 50 of history.

Then when the LLL/arab states get over confident they go on a rampage. The LLL go on a propaganda streak, the arab states go to war (I don't see the LLL denouncing Egyptian college students calls for war with Israel). Then when this rampage is summarily destroyed by Israel either by the truth or the IDF, they go on and complain about how Israel is the neighborhood bully. How it's military is far to vast and powerful and that the IDF must be stop being so advanced, and Israeli's who argue back are now guilty of the "new anti-semitism" (now all of a sudden the arabs remember they are semites and share some bond with the people of Israel, too bad they forgot about that during the Mufti's rule during WWII or pretty much the past 50 years). And this excluding the historical precedent that the term "anti-semite" has always meant anti-Jew.

Now with the double game in play, the left and arabs constantly see-saw between arguements. Just wait, in a few hours (or if their slow a few days) they'll go back to Israel being the bully.

89 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:46:24am

#81 keepandbear - Who here thinks Bush is anti-semitic?

90 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:46:26am

#57 Deuce

Conyers to Millbank, short version: how dare you point out we have no clothes on.

John Conyers. No clothes on.

There went my lunch.

91 xbalanke  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:46:35am

#6 Barking Pumpkin:

If we went to war for oil, how come I'm paying $2.37 a gallon for gas?

Like any good conspiracy theory every outcome confirms the theory (see: global warming). Remember when we invaded Iraq for cheap oil? When oil prices climbed it changed to: we invaded to fatten the profits of oil companies.

92 Anna  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:47:33am

#63, nope that was McDimwit[D-WA] who hob-nobbed with serial killer Saddam Insane.

Well they did get one thing right, the mockness of it. I mock them, I fart in their general direction and I hope they never pine for the fjords nor rest.

The Dhimmicratic Party[USA] is now run by the circus clowns.

93 Deuce  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:47:50am

#63 Ward Cleaver

The "Baghdad Democrats" were McDermott, Thompson and Bonior. No Moran.

94 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:47:58am

63 Ward Cleaver- no. Moran is an idiot but not as stupid and bent as McDermott. I don't recall the other two but it wasnt our Jim.

95 logger phd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:48:17am

"Democrats Play House"

--as in, "pretend they have a majority."

96 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:48:49am

The Dhimmicrats are doomed to extinction. They could win easily in '08 by reviving the Truman/Rayburn spirit and hitting the Repubs hard on illegal immigration and Saudi Arabia. That would require jettisoning a big part fo their multi-cult and media culture baggage, which they would literally die than do even if they were capable of recognizing the need.

Instead, they will simply shout their moth-eaten 60s media-mantra that much louder.
They are the political arm of the institutional media culture, just as New Age is the official religion, and Islamic terrorists are the special ops force.

97 lykeios  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:49:40am

The only way to describe this event is: public psychological mass masturbation by people filled with nothing but a crippling irrational hatred.

98 Deuce  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:50:07am

# 90

Sorry. I owe you an MRE.

99 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:50:18am

82 Rosh- I don't think Moran would survive Illinois politics.

100 keepandbear  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:50:35am

89 Realwest

I can't put my finger on it but there was a poster just a few weeks ago that was claiming Bush was allowing Israel to die on the vine as part of the Anti-Semite Pogrom ala illuminati, New World Order. I dismissed them as a kook but behind every vocal kook there are several that won't speak up

101 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:50:40am

Wow, I am so drunk! I could have sworn reading through my alcohol induced haze that the donks held a mock impeachment!

Oh shit, the beer is still in the fridge and I haven't had but 1 so far.

Are my new glasses that fucked up?

102 rw in san diego  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:51:02am

Oh, thaaat Jim Moron, er Moran. POS

103 Athos  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:51:03am

#66 realwest

It's the polite thing to do.

If they don't listen, well, that's Darwin at work.

104 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:51:25am

#91 xbalanke

Like any good conspiracy theory every outcome confirms the theory (see: global warming). Remember when we invaded Iraq for cheap oil? When oil prices climbed it changed to: we invaded to fatten the profits of oil companies.

That is exactly right. The Left has established the perfectly non-falsifiable conspiracy web. Eacxh possible outcome, no matter how divergent or contradictory to each other, only serve to confirm at least some aspects of the theory. And if you disagree with their propositions and/or present facts against them, you are automatically part of the conspiracy and trying to cover it up, or else a dupe for those who "run the show".

You know, the Dimocrats literally ARE UFO people.

105 Cole Slaw  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:51:34am

89 realwest

"Who here thinks Bush is anti-semitic?"

I don't but I can't say the same for his daddy and the crew his daddy hangs around with (i.e, James "Fuc* the Jews" Baker).

However, what is very very clear at this point in American politics is that, outside of country club anti-semitism, the real madness is firmly on the left.

106 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:51:50am
107 Zevy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:51:51am

This is scary.

And to think it was even televised!

Every day, I'm beginning to think moving to Israel is the only choice we Jews have.

108 jwbrown1969  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:52:38am

I love the way the pretend it was a committee hearing. The MSM was trying to spin it the same way. They also, like to refer to Conyers as “Ranking Democrat on the committee.” Which just means he is the senior member of the minority? However, the way they say it you would think he is the chairman.

All this really was is a meeting of the “Congressional Anti-Semite Caucus.”

109 Lawrence Schmerel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:53:22am

OMG! I want to see the video! Who has the freakin' video! It must be seen!

110 doppelganglander  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:53:30am

There's no way I can be the first person on a 70+ thread to say ALL LIBERALS ARE TRAITORS!

111 FreakyBoy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:53:31am

Somebody should have turned the air conditioning to eleven.

112 Eagle  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:53:34am

WTF? I was certain that was an Iowahawk parody. I started to doubt because it wasn't as funny as Iowahawk.

113 johnCV  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:54:05am

From #50 above

Despite the fact that a number of other suitable rooms were available in the Capitol and House office buildings, Republicans declined my request for each and every one of them... ... Milbank also ignores the critical fact picked up by the AP, CNN and other newsletters that at the very moment the hearing was scheduled to begin, the Republican Leadership scheduled an almost unprecedented number of 11 consecutive floor votes, making it next to impossible for most Members to participate in the first hour and one half of the hearing.

That's too great if it true (paranoia runs deep here). It must have been hilarious to watch these idiots running back and forth to the chamber every 15 minutes to vote on vital issues as "National Hummingbird Spleen Month". It just adds to the utter decrepitute and irrelevance that is now the democratic party.

114 keepandbear  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:54:07am

89 Realwest

Addedum

In retrospect I prob should not have metioned it without reference but I don't like the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA being compared to nazi germany by anyone. I picked my nic for a reason and I know all the reasons behind that particular Amendment. I love my country and will use ALL my rights to protect Her.

115 Deuce  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:54:28am

After the mock impeachment they plan a mock inauguration for Kerry (who of course elbows his way to the head of the line) followed by a mock government and a mock national health plan and a mock pullout of troops from Iraq with a faux peace.

116 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:54:36am

Dangerous lunatics...the whole lot of 'em.

117 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:55:06am

#100 keepandbear - I understand - there's lots of times when I read what I consider a bizarre post here, and it never seems to come from a regular (well, ok, excluding Nodrog) and your memory is probably correct, but just remember, behind every vocal kook are several who won't speak up, but they're still ALL kooks.
LGF is about as unanti-semitic (is that a word?) as any place in the blogsphere.

118 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:55:10am
119 rw in san diego  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:55:10am

oops, McDermott, not Moran. OK, two P'sOS.

I just moved Moran up (down?)into the company of McDermott.

120 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:55:17am

#96 Shiplord Kirel

You are, of course, most correct. May the Emperor (looks at floor) be pleased with your service.

These Tosevites known as "el cubos" do seem to be an inferior breed, unsuited to survival in a world governed by reality and logic.

121 keepandbear  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:56:01am

Realwest

see #105 Cole Slaw

122 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:56:49am

OR @ 4

Are you going to write them and tell them why?

123 FreakyBoy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:57:28am

So, is it the Dems who have a "shadow government"?

124 rosh  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:57:34am

#96 Shiplord Kirel

That would require jettisoning a big part fo their multi-cult and media culture baggage

The Dems could just give all that to the Greens and we'd have 3 parties mebbe

125 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:58:28am

This is highly inflammatory to the Jews... and Israel...

Are you Democrat Jews listening to what your party is saying?

126 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:58:30am
127 Horsesoldier  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:58:31am

If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war…. we would not be doing this
Jim Moran

If world Jewry forces us in to another war….
Adolph Hitler

Hmmm….
I think Rosh has a valid point there.

128 keepandbear  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:58:32am

Well time to get in the Pool and drink beer

any of you other guys married to someone thats a reincarnated Egyptian slave driver?

129 Bunker Buster  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:59:08am

I'm having a hard time deciding if these guys are a bunch of truly dangerous individuals, or a bunch of clowns, albeit whiny, petulant, self-deluded clowns.

130 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:59:09am

#122 Bubble Girl:

Are you going to write them and tell them why?

Either that, or I'll express myself through giant papier-maché puppets. Isn't that how leftists communicate?

131 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:59:40am

So... so... which conspiracy theory are we supposed to be buying into?

Too many now to remember them all.

132 amir  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 11:59:51am

Dearest Zevy and Rosh

Try not to exagerrate.

If you want to come to Israel for zionist reasons, welcome.
But the United States is safe (probably the safest place for Jews today including Israel) and is likely to be so for the foreseeable future.

133 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:00:27pm

Not Neo @ 24

LOL LOL

134 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:00:48pm
135 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:01:01pm

#129 Bunker Buster:

I'm having a hard time deciding if these guys are a bunch of truly dangerous individuals, or a bunch of clowns

"Why can't they be both, like the late Earl Warren?"


(can't let an opportunity for a Simpsons paraphrase go by)

136 doppelganglander  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:01:13pm

#96 Shiplord Kirel: You are so right. I would very possibly vote for a Dem who repudiates the special interests that now dominate the party and is strong on national security and especially illegal immigration. Of course, that will never happen.

137 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:01:33pm

Let 'em impeach Bush...we'll just run David Lesar (Halliburton CEO) in '08...(do I sound as wacko as they do yet?)

138 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:01:44pm

OR @ 130

LOL LOL

Performance Art... call me, I will come to DC.. we will put on an anti-Democrat show that everyone will remember...

LOL LOL

139 AmzngSpidey  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:01:54pm

Off topic- Here's a hillarious video clip of a moonbat protest being crashed...
Apparently they brought signs too!

140 mikeyslaw  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:02:25pm

goofy bastards. you just gotta love 'em, don't ya?

141 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:02:32pm

129 Bunker Buster

Dangerous Clowns!

142 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:02:46pm

#93 Deuce

Thanks! Don't get me started on Bonior. What a loser he is.

143 Dales  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:03:59pm

Did someone say "Cynthia McKinney" on a thread involving "Ray McGovern"?

What a coinkdink!

144 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:04:04pm

#121 keepandbear - um hmm. Still and all Cole Slaw doesn't think Bush is anti-semitic. Personally I don't think his Daddy is (was) either, but don't have any intention of driving this otherwise fine (and humorous, as befits the topic) thread off the rails.

145 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:04:31pm
146 keepandbear  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:04:33pm

132 amir

Thank You

147 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:05:12pm

137 E_O

Today Rush mentioned that Haliburton won the contract to build a new detention facility at Gitmo. How fabulous is that? Ought to get the Moonbats in an even bigger hissy fit.

Bwahahahaha

148 rw in san diego  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:06:13pm

I'm really getting sick of Congress. Let's torture them. Who's in control of the air conditioning?...who's got the loud speakers?...we don't need any music, I say we just replay their own speeches (from the repulsive to the mind numbing)to them for 24 hours straight and see how many of them are in a fetal position with a pile of hair on the floor next to them the next day.

149 mikeyslaw  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:06:23pm

#6 Barking Pumpkin
average 2.10 a gallon in dallas. i guess their stupid argument is we would be paying 5.00 a gallon if we hadn't booted saddam. why do i have the sneaking suspicion that i might very well be paying 5.00 a gallon someday soon.

150 J. Lichty  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:06:43pm

I want a list of all Democrats who participated in this and did not repudiate McGovern's and Moran's statements.

The generous pro-Israel community needs to hear about the rubbish our friends in Congress will tolerate to push their partisan agendas.

151 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:07:15pm

#131 Bubble Girl - I'm with you - anybody got a program? Program Here, Need a Program to keep track of all this stuff!

152 oh_dude  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:07:38pm

I'm a decent looking guy, but chances are I won't be heading to the Bahamas anytime soom with Angelinia Jolie. All I can do is continue to fantasize. Just like the Dems.

I've said this a million times as a staunch conservative, if the LLL has enough real eveidence to put away GW for "lying and people dying" I'll be the first in line if they can get a conviction.

C'mon Dems, show me something! I'm still waiting...

153 jlfintx  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:07:40pm

You know, after the Shiavo deal I was really pissed at the Republicans and vowed to not vote next time.

Now that I have had the time to see what the alternative is, God help me if I don't do everything within my power to get these treasonous, seditious, backwater bastards out of office.

In the whole lot of them, I can not think of one Democrat worth *spit*.

154 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:08:33pm

McCarthy was right. Un-American activities need to be prosecuted without mercy, or we will lose this great nation of ours.

155 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:09:13pm

#147 loppyd 6/17/2005 02:05PM PDT
137 E_O

Today Rush mentioned that Haliburton won the contract to build a new detention facility at Gitmo. How fabulous is that? Ought to get the Moonbats in an even bigger hissy fit.

Bwahahahaha

hee, hee...Yeah, I heard that!

I think I posted that on the Misc Links thread earlier too...what a hoot!

I bet it'll be ignored by the moonbats for a few days 'til they figure out which of the wack-a-doodles is gonna raise the issue...

156 nonic  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:09:25pm
“Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation,” McGovern said. “The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic.”

Anybody says "kill the Jews," I call them anti-Semitic, too.

157 Darwin Akbar  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:10:27pm

Conyers: "How dare those evil Republicans actually demand us to come ot the House floor and do our job so we can't put on our class play! WHAAAHHH! Censorship!WHAAA! Conspiracy! WHAAAHHH"...

...and these are elected officals, paid by taxpayer dollars?

Remember how right after the election, VDH, Mark Steyn and others predicted that with their defeat, the Dems and the moveon.org crowd were bound to start acting weird...but you just couldn't make this stuff up...we are witnessing the party of Scoop Jackson, Harry Truman and FDR march tself down the rabbit hole of irrelevancy...and it ain't pretty...

158 Phil.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:10:31pm

#4

"Life imitates Scrappleface."

Couldn't have said it better myself. How much more insane can these people get? All our sarcasm about war for OILLL, da Jooos, neocon circle jerks - these people actually believe this stuff.

I'm looking forward to the 2006 elections. The LLLs are expecting to gain back the Senate and then try to impeach Bush, count on it. They're going to be in for a big surprise when the Republicans no longer need to worry about filibusters as they'll have 60 seats in the Senate instead.

159 Craig  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:11:03pm

It was on C-Span or C-Span 2 last night and will be repeated tonight and sometime on Sunday. If you can stand it, pop a big bowl of corn, open a cold one, and watch the dems continue their melt down.

Really bizarre, the basement was full of flags and rwb bunting, just so you would know that they are real patriots.

160 amir  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:11:33pm

146 keepandbear

You're welcome.

And I'll add one more thing. The knesset has dozens of guys (jewish or not) worse than McGovern or Moran.

161 rightasrain  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:12:19pm

#158 Phil.

They're [LLLs] going to be in for a big surprise when the Republicans no longer need to worry about filibusters as they'll have 60 seats in the Senate instead.

Your mouth to G-d's ear.

162 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:13:14pm

Dana Milbank of the WaPo must not have gotten the word that the Washington Post/Newsweek's job is to bring down NIxon, errr, Bush, as during their heyday, Watergate. Why else is he doing a Deep Throat on the Dems' fake but accurate impeachment hearings?

163 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:14:11pm

155 E_O

More fodder for the fools.

Didn't see your post - sorry about the repeat.

{E_O}

164 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:14:23pm
165 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:15:35pm
166 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:15:51pm

#160 amir ohmigod, really? I mean, I don't follow Israeli politics (hardly enough time to follow US politics with all the wing-dings runnin' around) but I'm surprised that the knesset has moonbats worse than Conyers and Moran et. al.

167 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:15:56pm

I'm truly distressed by this. It's not healthy for a republic to have only one legitimate political party. Already the spending is out of control and unchecked. If the Democrat Party continues to flush itself down a toilet (like a Koran?) then there will never be a move towards smaller government, or an overhaul of our immigration policy, or etc...

168 Dianna  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:16:05pm

#162 alegrias

Usually, Dana Milbank is reliably liberal, though not always a moonbat. This time, though, he ripped the Dems up one side and down the other.

Milbank is read by lots of people in Washington. If he said the Conyers & Co. were ludicrous and tin-foil hat-wearing loons, they really, really were.

169 Elcid  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:17:16pm

This may have been posted BUT, can we have mock beheadings?

Oh ahhh, du, kos, other leftist freaks...'mock' is the key word...just like mock impeachment...got it leftist asshats?

170 locutus  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:17:31pm

can we question their sanity now?

171 Crusader  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:17:47pm

While it's undeniable that the Democrats are in deep trouble, I don't see the Republicans doing much to counter this sort of moonbatery.

Exactly. For example--instead of taking advantage of the numbers, Republicans lamely "negotiated" rather than insisting on their judicial nominees getting an up or down vote.

172 marshafactor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:17:55pm

Hey if they are going to impeach Bush, they should atleast find a crime. How about, the borders Bush refuses to enforce. Bush has one job, to enforce the laws of the land. I love the guy, and that's an issue that they could actually motivate some of both sides on...

Oh, wait, they'd have to actually be RATIONAL to try something like that.

173 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:18:42pm

#165 taxfreekiller - make that 110% and I think you've got it!

174 Reluctant Democrat  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:20:05pm

I watched it on C-Span. Looked like a scene from the old movie Snake Pit.

175 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:20:38pm

#169 Elcid - hi guy! did you get my e-mail?

176 locutus  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:21:24pm

BTW, I'm going to be holding a mock trial for Bill and Hillary Clinton, who have been charged with the murder of Ron Brown and Vince Foster.

The trial will be held in my bathroom.

177 john jay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:21:38pm

#150 J. Lichty
Good point. How many Congressmen were there who didn't bat an eye? They should all be run out of town.

Put them on the same tarred rail that Dick Durbin is going to be sitting on.

178 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:21:57pm

174 Reluctant Democrat

LOL OL LOLOL ROFLOL

Bedlam!

179 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:22:01pm
180 Satan Sidekick  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:22:03pm

Conyers is a shill for the "swimmer" Kennedy and Monsieur Skerry.

He was a speaker at the Vietnam Veterans against the War in DC back in 1971 along with Kerry and Jane "the traitor" Fonda.

This side of Conyers needs to be exposed. His loony and sedetious (sp.) past is relevant to the present.

181 Sloan  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:23:44pm

Bush Derangement Syndrome has run amuck, and the Democrat Party is officially off its medication. Perhaps a mock therapy session is in order?

Seriously, what I would like the Republicans to emphasize now is the astounding irrationality behind virtually everthing that the Democrats do and say. It's all hyperbole and hysteria with them.

182 piniella  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:23:50pm

"C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.

C= Sir Richard Dearlove, head of MI6

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

183 Powderfinger  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:24:09pm
This is just more evidence that the Democratic Party is in deep, deep trouble.

According to the party Chairman, Republicans (and presumably anyone who voted for Bush) are white, Christian, and have never worked a day in any of their lives. They are worthy of hatred, and the party Chairman does indeed hate them and everything they stand for, by his own declaration.

According to the Minority Whip, the second ranked Democrat in DC, American servicemen engage in behaviour that one would expect from Nazis, Stalinist Soviets or Khmer Rouge. Things like restraints, hoods, boobies, air conditioning and urine are used to annoy jihadis sworn to kill us. This behaviour invites the comparison of our sons and daughters to those who murdered millions in cold blood in these totalitarian regimes on the floor of the Senate. As of a few days later, the number of this Senator's colleagues to distance themselves from these comments is zero.

I wonder what other segments of America top level Democrats will deign to grieviously offend before November '06 rolls around.

Whites. Christians. Military (and their families, dontcha know) Republicans, Red Staters. People who generally and honestly like America, and who we are and what we're about. These people are all repulsive, according to Democrat leadership.

Who does this leave to vote for them? Why should anyone vote for them when all they have to offer is hate?

Memo to Karl Rove: Just keep rolling these tapes and you can take some time off.

184 johnCV  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:24:21pm

148 rw

ROFLMAO

185 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:25:03pm

realwest @ 151

Get me a program too... lol

Seriously, if we respond by calling for hearings, the first word we will hear on the MSM is going to be this:

McCARTHYISM...

You can bet the bank on it!

186 Chaparral  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:25:36pm

Oh, this is rich.

Liberal Leftist Lunacy not as "street theatre", but as PERFORMANCE ART! Quick, somebody call Laurie Anderson: I hear she just lost her $20K stipend that NASA was paying her. The Dhimmicrats in congress could use a consultant. She'd make sure the lights only went out on purpose and that all the representatives would have lights on the interior of their mouths for dramatic effect: Illuminate the lies as they are brought forth. Film it in 140mm I-MAX. Project it across the Statue of Liberty. Have Siegfried and Roy's white tigers prowling around the base of the statue. Then David Copperfield could make all of it dissappear (If only).

How close are these idjits to actual treason and sedition with this, anyway? Can't THEY be impeached for this kind of dispicable outrage?

Oh, wait... that's right... real outrage is dead... Only the feigned kind that libs spit out is available anymore... Sorry, I forgot.

Can't you just FEEL the neo-con ranks swelling with every one of these revolting displays?

187 Joel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:25:44pm

9 alegrias
Thank you for at least having the sense to cast a vot against Dingbat Jim Moran. Too bad he was re-elected.

188 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:26:26pm

#153 jlfintx

Have a heart, jlf--during the Schiavo ordeal the Repubs (pro-life or whatever) gave up their Easter (can we still say Easter?) vacation to return to Congress to try to let a family give their terminal daughter water and save her miserable life, NOT filibuster us with soundbites to provide murderous enemy combatants 24hours a day, 7days a week Air Conditioning, gourmet meals such as seafood a la king, undefiled Korans, rose bath water, breathmints, free medical care, etc. as these Dems are doing.

DEMS: giving carte blanche to our enemies every day, deficit & allegiance to the US be damned.

189 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:26:33pm

Satan Sidekick @ 180

WOW... Conyers was back there too...

Amazing... thanks for the info... another piece of the puzzle falls into place...

190 amir  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:26:38pm

166 realwest

#160 amir ohmigod, really? I mean, I don't follow Israeli politics (hardly enough time to follow US politics with all the wing-dings runnin' around) but I'm surprised that the knesset has moonbats worse than Conyers and Moran et. al.


You may want to read this by Shulamit Aloni who was head of Israel's left for a long time and Minister of EDUCATION of all things.
Now, thank g-d retired.
PRE-MESSIANIC PANGS

191 FreakyBoy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:30:46pm

#189 BG

another piece of the puzzle falls into place...

What's the puzzle beginning to look like? ;-)

192 johnCV  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:30:55pm

182 piniella

What's your point? In the UK they speak English, which is actually differant than American.
To a Brit, that statement says the information is being gathered to support the policy.

Ya think little Kim would understand if GWB called him phat? Maybe da bomb?

Two nations separated by a common language.

193 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:31:40pm
194 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:31:48pm

piniella (#182),

Try to keep up.

195 Satan Sidekick  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:32:04pm

189 Bubble

Sure thing he's been around since then.

Here is the proof. Look at his name a few up from Kerry and Fonda on this flyer from back then

Conyers Anti War Days

196 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:33:45pm

#192 johnCV
piniella is a troll, don't bother.

197 Joel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:34:29pm

27 Horsesoldier
Why do people constantly say "Adolph" Hitler when it is "Adolf Hitler?

Back on topic - Moran is just one of a long lsit of monabt Dems in the house:
Cynthia McKinney, Barbara Lee, Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangel, Maurice Hinchey, Pete Stark, Jim McDermott. The only Republican I can think of who fits that category is Ron Paul from Texas.

198 hermes1LA  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:34:33pm

This is a good start/finish for Friday - have a good weekend and a good laugh.

[Link: satire.myblogsite.com...]

"LARRY KING - A SERIAL HUSBAND, MONOGAMOUS POLYGAMIST AND THE JOYS OF MULTIPLE FATHERHOOD"

This is fun. A must read. Filled with facts and has Larry's MUGSHOT - honest to goodness (Click on the word arrest in the article)

199 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:34:47pm

#187 joel

I voted for Andy Rosenberg against Moran but alas, Moran's Dem machine was busy busing semi-literate & public housing Alexandria city people to the polls that day. I can't recall whether any decent Dems denounced Moran as they should have loudly and repeatedly until shamed out of office. But he has no shame, so no matter.

200 johnCV  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:34:55pm

reaganite

Thanks - didn't recognize the nic.

201 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:35:23pm

195 Satan Sidekick

Wow... so cool when your past comes back to bite you in the butt.

202 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:36:20pm
203 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:36:23pm

#200 johnCV

Thanks - didn't recognize the nic.

No problem.

204 hermes1LA  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:36:27pm

Bring Bill Clinton back to lead the impeachment charge.

Fair and balanced! Plus he has the experience.

205 jlfintx  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:37:08pm

Medved made a great case today for the direct correlation of smoking dope and voting democrat. Wish I had it on tape.

206 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:37:16pm

Freaky Boy @ 191

LOL... you read my mind... lol lol

I was thinking the same thing... how does schizophrenic sound? Or Munch's The Scream

207 FreakyBoy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:38:42pm

#206 BG

I was think more like that depiction of hell/purgatory by Bosch (sp?).

208 Satan Sidekick  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:39:18pm

201 Bubble

I wonder how many people know about Conyers past? Not enough do.

I believe he is being used by Kerry & Kennedy because they aren't going to be taken seriously. Not many people are aware of the long-time connection between them. I wish I could shout it from the mountain tops.

This is the usual "Dissent is patriotic" LLL justification for doing this.

209 LSD  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:40:09pm

OT: CAIR: Hurt Feelings in Lodi, California

The federal government indicted a father and son from Lodi, California on 16 June on terrorism related charges:

This is an example of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) getting around to doing its job properly; defending the United States from terrorist attacks. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), has taken the usual tack of not addressing the crime and instead attacking the accuser.

These are the words of Basim Elkarra, executive director of the Sacramento chapter of CAIR:

“We have documented numerous reports of intimidating tactics used recently by some FBI agents. We’ve become disappointed and alarmed at reports of abuse by local FBI.”

And:

"There have been threats of deportation, telling someone they can't have an attorney, when the attorney was on the phone they wouldn't speak to the attorney."

In addition, Elkarra made allegations that law enforcement threatened to detain people for jaywalking; conducted surveillance of a mosque, and grabbed a youth by the arm.

During one arrest, according to Elkarra, agents "knew there were three females in the house and five children, but they still came in with guns”.

CAIR alleges egregious violations of civil rights, but then, in our opinion, fails to provide any proof. In the alleged case of the agents effecting an arrest with women and children in the house, would CAIR rather law enforcement knock politely and invite the terrorism suspect to come out for a quick chat on the stoop? Or does CAIR believe that terrorism suspects in America should use women and children as human shields, as they do in Iraq and Gaza?

What do local Muslims think of CAIRs interference?

Apparently, not much.

According to the article, Lodi Muslims are not appreciative of CAIRs standing by the father and son as well as two local imams arrested on immigration violations. Local Muslims plan to protest at the Sacramento office of CAIR.

Lodi Muslim Mosque board member Nick Qayyum stated that the two imams:

"…divided our families -- brothers against brothers, sisters against sisters. If (CAIR) is going to go out to support these people, we're going to protest…that's not a joke, either. As far as I'm concerned, (Khan and Ahmed) hijacked our religion and tried to hijack us “

A sizeable proportation of Lodi Muslims have chosen to stand up to CAIRs hateful tactics, rightly pointing out that it is their community and that CAIR clearly is on the wrong side in this latest battle against Islamofascism.

It looks to Anti-CAIR that Lodi Muslims have rejected the hate, bigotry, and cheap tactics of CAIR; we’re happy to note this development and hope that this is a continuing trend in the American Muslim community ...

210 Mookie Wilson  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:40:36pm

Scoop Jackson, JFK and FDR are rolling in their graves.

211 channeling the shah  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:41:27pm

Wow...that's all i can say, i'm so dumbstruck that this how adults, elected officials, no less, are spending their time. if anyone other than howard dean was running that place, i'd think this was satire from the onion.

212 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:41:31pm

#190 amir - Holy shit. If he hadn't said it intending it to be an insult to Israel, I'd have applauded this line:
"We, who don't give a hoot for the opinion of the entire UN membership or for international law, we who have refused to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, we have adopted the strategy of force - we have decided that it is our mission to destroy Iran's nuclear capability. Iran doesn't have that capability as yet, but we and India, Pakistan and Russia -- the countries surrounding Iran - do. Our mission is clear and it is up to us to provide the lead in a war whose consequences no one can predict."
I think he's even got Conyers and Durbin beat for moonbattines.
He was the minister of EDUCATION?! OMG.

213 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:42:02pm
Medved made a great case today for the direct correlation of smoking dope and voting democrat. Wish I had it on tape.

Hey, I burn herb and I'm a proud Conservative. Granted, I lean Libertarian, but I'm still a Republican!

214 clarice  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:42:21pm

Last week Dean called the Republicans the party of White Christians. I assumed than he considered his party the party of Black Jews. Scratch half that constituency. I haven't seen such moonbatty self-destructiveness ever.

215 jlfintx  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:43:59pm

Okay, Lizard by the Bay, let's make it the herb smokers and white christians party.

216 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:44:44pm

#210 mookie

I'm getting nostalgic remembering when Dems were men or at least not repulsive invertebrates.

217 locutus  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:45:26pm

#137

Let 'em impeach Bush...we'll just run David Lesar (Halliburton CEO) in '08...(do I sound as wacko as they do yet?)

Ha, Lord Rove would exercise his Emergency Authority and lock up all the LLLs in the Montana Gulags before that happened, then would declare W to be "Presidential Figurehead for Life"

218 Satan Sidekick  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:46:26pm

Folks

Send this to all of your LLL friends and relatives. It makes them get very quiet. LOL

How many times have we heard that dissent is patriotic? What does that really mean? And where did the idea come from? Our founding fathers, it cannot be said lightly, had some major points of dissention with England. To wit, they expressed their dissatisfaction with the policies of their colonial masters and ultimately made a Declaration of Independence. Dissent has never been expressed more eloquently since. Perhaps the modern justification for this view of dissent as patriotic comes from failed presidential candidate and former Ambassador to the UN Adlai Stevenson:

Do not regard the critics as questionable patriots. What were Washington and Jefferson and Adams but profound critics of the colonial status quo.
What status quo is being raged against these days? Certainly not the status quo of the appalling regime of Saddam Hussein. The problem with dissent as it is currently being practiced is that the principles for which the dissent is expressed run contrary to the greater good of the nation and the world.
Once war is engaged, the only acceptable end game for a patriot is Victory. How many calls for Victory do you hear amongst those who place themselves in the ranks of the dissenters? What greater good is being served by this dissent? To what purpose or principle does the dissent serve? The answers to those questions tell me all I need to know about which protestors are patriotic and which are not.
Patriotism is many things to many people. How we define patriotism is an important factor in its usage.

Well Said!

219 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:47:12pm

215 jlfintx 6/17/2005 02:43PM PDT

Okay, Lizard by the Bay, let's make it the herb smokers and white christians party.


Whaddabout Jew Herb smokers? LOL!

220 FreakyBoy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:47:14pm

Okay guys, this can be the Friday Night Herb Thread for you, but you need to consume mass quantities to catch up with the mocking Dems.

221 LDA  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:48:06pm

#199 alegrias

Moran's my congressman, too. I hang my head in shame.

222 channeling the shah  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:48:37pm

actaully, these demented parlor games are't really much of a suprise considering that they're from a party that had no qualms whatsoever legitimizing a notious jew-hating, race-baiting, non-bill paying bozo the clown like the rev. al sharpton...and unlike bobby "kkk" byrd, all these reprehensible acts took place less than 20 years ago.

223 doppelganglander  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:48:50pm

#207 Freaky Boy: How about this one: Scroll down.

However, this may be more appropriate: Ship of Fools

224 MAV  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:49:12pm

#68 BlameBush Blog

This is just some of the priceless testament on this pathetic site...

"If anything, Kerry's low marks are a testament to his complexity, a portrait of a man too nuanced to be pigeonholed by primitive methods of measuring intelligence. In fact, the entire grading system itself is a flawed construct of the military-industrial complex and should be scrapped. "


spit

225 amir  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:50:13pm

212 realwest
That's right. Except its SHE.
She even dresses like a moonbat.

226 Satan Sidekick  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:50:42pm

223 dopple

ROFLMAO! Bobbing for bread LOL

227 ubangi  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:51:12pm

Charles-

Thank you so much for this link. It will be forwarded to all the people I know who assert that they are pro-Israel and Democrats. I'm sure they will be very proud of their party.

228 ColoradoJim  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:51:14pm

These moonbats have taken up permanent residence in das Wolkenkukusheim - the cloudcoockooland.

They can't handle reality anymore so they have their fantasy trials instead.

Fargin bastiches.

229 foreign devil  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:51:17pm

This is so bizarre! What it reveals about each and every one who participated in this childish 'wish fulfilment' exercise is that they are so immature and frustrated, they are unable to work out their frustrations any other way than by 'role playing' in order to lessen their angst!

Are people this emotionally crippled the quality of representative we want dealing on our behalf in Washington? If this is the best they can do, they reveal themselves as helpless emotionally-stunted children, play-acting in the church basement while the 'grown-ups' deal with real life upstairs. PATHETIC!

230 LDA  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:51:27pm

#215 jlfintx

There may be a correlation, but I can personally guarantee you it isn't a one-to-one correlation.

231 locutus  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:51:37pm

#167

If the Democrat Party continues to flush itself down a toilet (like a Koran?) then there will never be a move towards smaller government,

Uhm, the Dems are the big government party, from FDR thorough Lyndon "Great Society" Johnson, through President Clinton (and her husband)

232 Dave the.....  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:53:48pm

Holy smokes, I actually have to get work done, leave and come back and see a new thread already at 220 posts.


You know, when I was in College Republicans, we did what they call "model legislature" in the actual state senate and assembly rooms in the state capital.

The College Republicans behaved themselves. Debated bills and acted rather mature (even afterwards when the drinking started). The Young Democrats were, well jerks. The head of the CR's gave a nice speach on what he wanted to accomplish, the head of the Dems went on this nasty rant, calling Republicans "merchants of death" and just spewed hate.

I would imagine now my generation is moving into lower leadership positions in the parties. I fear for the Democrats if this is what they are to become.

233 amir  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:55:39pm

OT
I guess the Palestinian Authority has lived up to all of its obligations. Or at least most of them. Or at least some of them. Or at least one of them. Otherwise it's hard to explain this.Effort to Raise $3 Billion for Palestinians in Post-Israel Gaza

The Bush administration is working with James D. Wolfensohn, the former World Bank president, and with Palestinian, other Arab and European leaders to assemble a large new international aid package for Palestinian areas after Israel's disengagement from Gaza, American and other officials said Thursday.
234 Elcid  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:56:33pm

196 reaganite

#192 johnCV
piniella is a troll fucking asshole, don't bother.

realwest

Haven't had a chance to check it, but will..:).

235 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:57:02pm

#231 Locutus

Uhm, the Dems are the big government party, from FDR thorough Lyndon "Great Society" Johnson, through President Clinton (and her husband)

I'm well aware of this. My argument is that Republicans are only fighting for smaller government when they're up against legitimate opposition. Since they've had the piggy bank all to themselves they've been spending worse than sailors at a whorehouse. Having real political opposition kept them more honest.

Remember, they're politicians first, and Republicans second.

236 channeling the shah  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:57:10pm

#205

that couldn't be further from the truth and i'll just leave it at that.

237 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:57:31pm

#221 LDA

We need better outreach to black Evangelical Baptist voters in Alexandria to throw the redfaced & probably herbsmoking Moran out instead of voting him back based on conspiracy theories and hate. Moran's got his welfare/public sector voters' block tied up but few showed up this week for the off-year dem & gop primaries.

238 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 12:57:49pm

This is the evil version of : HEY KIDS!
Let's put on a show!

239 TotallySirius  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:01:37pm

I wish someone would tell me when the circus is in town.

240 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:03:04pm

Mav @ 224

Are they talking about Yale?

Cause if they are referring to Yale, the grading system back then was:

PASS or FAIL

How hard is that?

241 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:03:19pm

The Democrats are finished.

Even I, former peace-and-love hippie, will never vote for them anymore.

They play politics with national security.

*spit*

242 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:03:41pm

#237 addendum

Oddly enough, all the Dems handing out voting literature in Moran's almost all black neighborhood were young & old women of pallor, most of whom didn't even live in his district. Dem women, please smell the ripe Dem garbage someone forgot to take out.

243 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:03:46pm
244 FreakyBoy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:04:23pm

#239 TotallySirius 

Look for the parade of pink tanks and paper mache bobble heads out your window.

245 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:05:01pm

219 Babba

Is this the herb smokers and Jewfro, white Christian party?

Where do I sign up?

/have a BIC and rolling papers in my purse

246 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:06:12pm
247 foreign devil  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:06:24pm

#198 hermes1LA:

I noticed you promoted your blog several times on this morning's dead thread and here you are again using Charles blog to promote yours. Once is okay...twice is allowable if the second time there's something like a photograph or whatever hosted on your site than can't be linked...but twice or three times in as many posts and now later in the same day...again with the hype about some 'story' on your blog you've been plugging incessantly and that nobody obviously wants to link to. ENUF!

248 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:07:12pm

alegrias @ 216

Too bad Zell Miller won't run... can we clone him?

249 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:07:18pm

#241 Ojoe

The Democrats are finished.

Even I, former peace-and-love hippie, will never vote for them anymore.

They play politics with national security.

As it should be. Anyone truly committed to peace can see that long term peace can only be achieved by the defeat of the forces of evil in this world. And anyone who cannot see that radical jihadi Islamofascism is pure EVIL has their head so far up their morally equivalent ass that they're beyond hope.

250 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:07:46pm

245

IM SCREAMING AT YOU, WHITE CHRISTIANS!

AND YOU JEW POT SMOKERS TOO!

251 TotallySirius  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:07:55pm

#244 Freaky

They play politics with everything,I bet they have opinion polls to tell them when to pee.

As I've said before the Demonrats haven't had a new idea since the New Deal,and that sucked.

252 doppelganglander  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:08:43pm

#245 Bubbles: I am shocked, shocked! that a medical professional such as yourself indulges! Where can I get some?

/leaning libertarian and holding onto the floor to stop it from spinning

253 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:09:25pm

I swear that even JFK would cringe at this kind of childishly asinine behavior in the Democratic party. Meanwhile, his bloated baby brother says nothing.

As for me, my days of even thinking there was a chance for the Democratic Party to redeem themselves are OVER!

I am so disgusted I could spit. Well, ok. I will.

PTOOEY!

254 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:09:59pm
255 FreakyBoy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:10:27pm

#251 TotallySirius 

Agreed. Key word is "play". And the more they play at politics, the further they sink.

256 foreign devil  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:10:42pm

#232 Dave the...:

The concept of a 'moot court' is familiar to most of us, I daresay...but for the Democrats to actually carry out something like this within the precepts of the government buildings is so...like a bunch sailors on Mutiny on the Bounty, plotting treason. It's all so seedy and backdoor and unseemly! As a Democrat I'd be ashamed to have any part in it.

257 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:11:21pm
258 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:11:27pm

#251 TotallySirius

As I've said before the Demonrats haven't had a new idea since the New Deal,and that sucked.

You forgot the "Great Society", which sucked worse.

259 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:11:46pm

Hey, everybody...

They can stage all the "Mock" Impeachments they want.

We already got to do a real one. YEAH!

I used to think it was real waste of time, but now, I am really, really glad they did it.

260 TotallySirius  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:11:53pm

Libertarians=pot smoking Republicans

;-)

261 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:12:07pm

#254 taxfreekiller
Tell the nurse it's time for your meds.

262 Mike Nargizian  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:13:47pm

SYRIA MURDERS... AMNESTY SILENT... {crickets 'chirp chirp'}
DAILY SCORECARD

Murdering in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq... Oh well...

a) Amnesty supports 'resistance' in Iraq to the Great Satan
b) Syria's murdering Kurds in Syria, so who cares... they're not Arabs... yawn
263 Ed Driscoll  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:13:50pm

Conyers has a history of this shtick when a successful conservative Republican president is in office, calling twice for President Reagan's impeachment:

In 1983, Clinton defender John Conyers called for Reagan's impeachment for invading Grenada. (For good measure, he earlier called for impeachment over the Gipper's alleged "incompetence" in dealing with unemployment.)

Also during that period:

In 1984, as he ran for President, and again in 1986, Jesse Jackson suggested Reagan should be subject to an impeachment probe over U.S. actions in Nicaragua. Rep. Henry Gonzalez called for impeachment in 1983 over Grenada and again in 1987 over Iran-Contra. The National Organization for Women and the American Civil Liberties Union advocated impeaching Reagan in 1987.
264 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:14:20pm

Free People's Party of American Judeo-Christians and Like Minded Beyond-Category Imbibers and Sane Persons, Unite!

265 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:15:36pm

#260 TotallySirius
I have had Libertarians and Republicans tell me they have no category for me, that I am beyond category, LOL!
Democrats don't speak to me, they just call me names...
;-)

266 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:16:35pm

Babba @ 250

Yes, soon to be released... Howard Dean's Greatest Hits...

I"m screaming
at you WHITE CHRISTIANS...

(kudos, Babba)

I'm Stuck in Gitmo Prison

Traitors, Tramps, and Thieves...


and Dick Durbins Gulag Goulash Recipes

267 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:16:46pm

#248 bubble chica

Si, si, I'd get weak in the knees if Zell Miller were our Presidente. Jose Maria Aznar--ok, so he's a Spanish speaker--but real hombres who want to kick terrorist posterior--also works.

268 xbalanke  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:17:33pm

#265 BabbaZee:

I have had Libertarians and Republicans tell me they have no category for me, that I am beyond category, LOL!

You sound like me. When asked about my politics I tell people I'm liberally conservative in my libertarian views.

269 Beagle  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:17:53pm

George Washington proudly grew hemp next to the rye he grew to make burbon for export. Tobacco was our first major export.

Dammit, this nation was founded on intoxication.

270 Luigi  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:18:06pm

The Democrats know exactly what they are doing. They are consciously reaching out for Muslim votes.

271 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:18:14pm

#266 Bubble Girl

Actually, it's Hungarian Gulag Butterhorn cookies.

272 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:18:18pm

Who was it who described the opposition as a collection of "brigands, pederasts, and lawyers"?

Updating a classic 18th century exchange in the British parliament (often falsely attributed to Gladstone and Disraeli in a much later period):

Self-righteous Dhimmicrat: "You, sir, shall end your days either upon the gallows or from some loathesome disease."
Anti-idiotarian: That, sir, depends upon whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."

273 FreakyBoy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:18:43pm

#266 Bubble Girl 

Don't forget Durbin's tasty recipe for Gitmo Gumbo.

274 TotallySirius  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:19:35pm

#265 Babba

"I have had Libertarians and Republicans tell me they have no category for me, that I am beyond category, LOL! "

You too?

"Democrats don't speak to me, they just call me names..."

You too?

275 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:19:37pm
276 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:20:09pm

#265 BabaZee

I have had Libertarians and Republicans tell me they have no category for me, that I am beyond category, LOL!

Same here. I took a political leanings test online once that plots your political orientation on a large grid sectioned off into different areas. There was a narrow wedge section stuck in between the large Republican and Libertarian sections, simply labeled "Capitalist". I wound up in the dead center of it.

277 Ann  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:20:18pm

#269 Beagle

Dammit, this nation was founded on intoxication.

Perfect segway for the FNDT -:)

I want what TFK is having.

278 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:20:45pm

Sarah @ 271

ROFLOL LOL

Senator Dick Durbin first obtained this recipe about 40 years ago when he was a paperboy for the now-defunct East St. Louis Journal (the same paper that the late Congressman Melvin Price once wrote for as a sports reporter). One Christmas, a customer gave Durbin a box of these cookies, which proved so popular with the entire family that he went back for the recipe. Durbin's mother baked them every Christmas.
279 Isadore  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:21:09pm
#105 Cole Slaw 6/17/2005 01:51PM PDT

However, what is very very clear at this point in American politics is that, outside of country club anti-semitism, the real madness is firmly on the left.

ahem...

David Duke? Pat Buchanan? I frankly don't think antisemitic 'paleoconservatism' is limited to the country clubs...it's certainly all over the internet.

Have you ever looked at vdare.com?

280 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:22:11pm

Freaky Boy @ 273

LOL LOL Gitmo Gumbo...

Pol Potstickers?

281 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:22:27pm

#266 bubble girl

Hey Chica, Dick Durbin's not serving gulag goulasch nor Cuban black beans and rice--these aren't good enough for our enemy combatants who need FRENCH trained chefs to saute their cuisine such as Rice Lyonnaise and filet of sole Meuniere au limon.

282 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:23:19pm

#254 taxfreekiller

Our forefathers in the late 1700's were highly educated in the classics, loved their country above all else and had incredible minds. They were also extraordinary statesmen.

We would not be here today if it were not for them.

#261 reaganite

I think tfk is ok. English is likely not his first language.

283 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:24:12pm

#279 Isadore

David Duke? Pat Buchanan? I frankly don't think antisemitic 'paleoconservatism' is limited to the country clubs...it's certainly all over the internet.

You will notice that these to men have been all but expelled from the Republican Party, and today write anti-war columns that make the lefties who used to despise them swoon.

They simply don't represent Conservatism today, just as Truman and JFK would not feel comfortable in todays Democrat Party (much to its detrement).

284 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:24:25pm

Beagle (#269),

Dammit, this nation was founded on intoxication.

Not to mention ready to go to war over it.

Do you know of George Washington's involvement in putting down the Whiskey Rebellion?

285 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:25:05pm
 #267

alegrias  6/17/2005 03:16PM PDT

#248 bubble chica


Si, si, I'd get weak in the knees if Zell Miller were our Presidente. Jose Maria Aznar--ok, so he's a Spanish speaker--but real hombres who want to kick terrorist posterior--also works.

Si, si... es verdad... and all the better that Aznar is a Spanish speaker, it makes me very proud. Very, very proud!

286 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:25:37pm

#276 Lizard by the Bay
LOL I took that test I know exactly what you are talking about - I landed in the same place

287 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:25:50pm

#282 rightymouse

I think tfk is ok. English is likely not his first language.

He "claims" it is, among many other claims. You know, like claiming to work at Sandia Labs but also claims he lives in Texas? Sorry, I have a bad feeling about this one.

288 FreakyBoy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:25:58pm

#280 BG

Pol Potstickers. LOL!

How about Mao Tse Tongue? Pickled, preferably.

289 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:26:14pm

#274 TotallySirius
;~P

290 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:27:13pm

#268 xbalanke
OK we need our own party!

291 Beagle  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:27:17pm

Dana Milbank's mocking tone is appropriate. I'd hate to read this story and get a lecture about how important all this street theater is, eerily reminiscent of the Winter Soldier 'investigations' and 'trials'.

292 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:27:32pm

alegrias @ 281

Ay chihuahua...

Make them eat McDonalds... or worse, Dairy King...

293 TenRing  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:27:33pm

#245 Bubble Girl

/have a BIC and rolling papers in my purse

What does a ballpoint pen have to do with enjoying THC?

294 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:28:00pm
Free People's Party of American Judeo-Christians and Like Minded Beyond-Category Imbibers and Sane Persons, Unite!

Where do I sign up?

Our motto

295 William  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:28:52pm

From the article:

later, a witness knocked down a flag


Surprised the treasonous imbeciles didn't then proceed to burn it.

[Link: johnkerrythenewsoldier.blogspot.com...]

Can there be any doubt that liberalism is a mental illness?
 

296 quark2  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:29:37pm

@279 Isadore


Vdare is not our congress.

297 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:29:56pm

#286 BabaZee

LOL I took that test I know exactly what you are talking about - I landed in the same place

What's funny about that test is that you can view the gris as a collage of faces of people who fall into these categories, presumably to show you whose views you are most aligned with. I wound up right between "The Donald's" eyes!

Shoot, if I'm so much like Trump, why don't I have his kind of green yet?

298 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:30:22pm

#275 taxfree

YOu're ok in my book and I thank you for your service to our country.

#284 Geepers

Can anyone blame our founding fathers for intoxicating themselves? They built our Capitol in a swamp before AIR CONDITIONING, free showers, French cuisine, medical care & surgically wrapped Holy Korans were standard issue. It WAS the pits here in colonial times which is why the British paid their diplomats stationed here for hardship duty (or TORTURE as the Dems call it today, weeping crocodile tears).

299 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:31:03pm

#293 TenRing

What does a ballpoint pen have to do with enjoying THC?

Assuming you're not being sarcastic, Bic also makes disposable lighters.

You know, Flick my Bic?

300 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:32:54pm

#297 Lizard by the Bay
LOL and I am dirt poor! LOL~

301 doppelganglander  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:34:14pm

Beagle #269:

Dammit, this nation was founded on intoxication.

I'll drink to that!

Isn't it true that at one time Americans drank more liquor (primarily rum) per capita than any other nation?

302 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:35:02pm

Well, they've dug themselves into a deep-ass hole with their mad rhetoric over the last few years.

I wonder if they'll be able to ever dig themselves out.

303 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:36:17pm

#300 BabaZee

LOL and I am dirt poor! LOL~

Ahh, so you're one of those people who always "votes against your best interests" as the Democrats would say. It's sad that Democrats think that the only interests the working class should have is government handouts.

304 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:37:11pm

#245 Bubble Girl:

/have a BIC and rolling papers in my purse

Would that be regular or double-width cigarette papers?

305 keepandbear  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:37:31pm

302 Golden Jerusalem

I wonder if they'll be able to ever dig themselves out.


The hell with that just kick the dirt in on top of them and seal it with concrete.

306 doppelganglander  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:37:48pm

Answering my own #301:

Their yearly consumption at the time of the Revolution has been estimated at the equivalent of three-and-a-half gallons of pure, two-hundred proof alcohol for each person. After 1790 American men began to drink even more. By the late 1820s imbibing had risen to an all-time high of almost four gallons per capita.
307 skippyMoment  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:37:48pm

How can anyone allow themselves to be assoicated with the democratic party, and still consider themselves a patriot?

The lefties have subverted the party, morphing into a socialist, god-hating, party of American-hating traitors.

We need more Zell Millers and Joseph Liebermans fighting for the control of their party again, or we need a new third party (a la Ross Perot) to emerge for the more conservative elements of the democratic party to have a voice. The Howard Deans, Dick Durbins, Charlie Rangels, et al are the shrill voices of the left. Where is the voice for the heart of the party?

And OT, I heard from Song_and_Dance_man today. He's starting a new job on Monday and hopes to be back posting on a regular basis again.

Congrats to SaDman.

308 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:39:50pm

#305 keepandbear:

The hell with that just kick the dirt in on top of them and seal it with concrete.

Heh, LOL. That was in the back of my mind as well.

309 TenRing  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:40:00pm

#299 Lizard by the Bay

You know, Flick my Bic?

'my bad.

That's why I have rounded shoulders and a flat forehead. From shrugging at questions and smacking head when answers arrive.

Grew up as a non-smoker (of anything) and only in my fifties did I begin to enjoy fine cigars (thanks to Rush) and, um, other herbal self-medication. Didn't make the lighter connection. I'm a low tech kitchen matches kind o' guy.

Call me a late starter. Duh.

310 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:40:09pm

#303 Lizard by the Bay
None of that commie shit was ever our idea, that I can tell you!

311 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:40:11pm

#301 doppelganglander

YOu'd have drunk GITMO Cuban rum all day too if there were NO AIR CONDITIONING! It was TORTURE living in colonial USA. Plus there was no running, potable or bottled Evian French water, unlike that enjoyed by our enemy combatants courtesy of your tax dollar.

312 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:40:29pm

#280 Bubble Girl

"LOL LOL Gitmo Gumbo...

Pol Potstickers"

LMAO! You guys are killing me here!

313 Eggs Ackley  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:40:36pm

"Mock Impeachment"? It reminds me of a totally twisted "Little Rascals" episode.

314 Luigi  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:42:34pm

#83 SoCalJustice

says...

"BTW, the NY Times and the BBC also covered this same story, but they left out any mention of the Jew/Israel baiting angle. Milbanks deserves credit for highlighting the repeated nutiness of Moran and his buddy McGovern, as well as the even nuttier "activists" handing out the Raimondo-esque pamphlets re: Israel and 9/11."

See #83 for links. The BBC has a duty to print the truth about this, as does the NY Times. Both blowhard MSM outlets are the first to tell you about their "duty" and the last to do it.

The people should know.

315 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:42:56pm

#313 Eggs Ackley
Eggs Ackley what I thought of!

#238 BabbaZee 6/17/2005 02:57PM PDT
This is the evil version of : HEY KIDS!
Let's put on a show!

Mighta Choked Artie But It aint gonna choke Stymie

316 Ann  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:43:51pm

#298 alegrias

YOu're ok in my book and I thank you for your service to our country.

That's the concern for me. I have thanked him for his service, and asked for details, but nothing. Military posers are worse than misguided trolls, to me.

317 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:45:01pm

alegrias (#298),

It WAS the pits here in colonial times which is why the British paid their diplomats stationed here for hardship duty

Ah yes, the good old days. LOL. :-)

318 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:45:22pm

Seeing as how this is the drinking thread: one of the liberal Dem women of pallor handing out voter literature in Jim Moran's Northern Jihadi Virginia district suggested quite seriously Dems should serve booze to entice voters to come out and vote "as they used to". Suprised she didn't suggest crack in that 'hood. Whatever they have to give away to get people to vote for Jim Moran...

319 The Other Les  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:45:46pm

I wouldn't worry about this voodoo ceremony, I would worry about the day that they stop posturing and start taking concrete actions.

320 Jakester  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:46:36pm

Conyers seems to be a common thread amongst the scumbag left and Muslim appeasers!

321 Beagle  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:46:45pm

It started with tobacco and rum. The U.S. branched out into grain spirits. Rye whisky and rum were both huge export items from the Americas.

Hemp was there when they wrote the U.S. Constitution. I'm not sure what that means.

Now we export hamburgers in paper. It's the least we can do after liquoring up the entire world.

322 Cole Slaw  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:46:49pm

279 Isadore

"Ahem", right back.

Buchanon and Duke have been completely and utterly marginalized by the Republican party and conservatives (WF Buckley, for instance). Buchanon only gets play by MSM.

The same can not be said for the Left. They, in stark contrast, allow these low lifes to run for President (ala Sharpton).

323 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:48:31pm

#287 reaganite

Eh. Tfk seems to be harmless. Have never seen him incite a riot here.

I could be wrong. Have not been posting for very long.

324 Boss429  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:48:39pm

I wish I could remember my password at dailykos, I'd post this link over there. It should be good enough to make a few of the children hyperventilate.

[Link: www.anklebitingpundits.com...]

325 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:49:45pm

#316 Ann

Did Charles appoint you our grand inquisitor of Tax Free's military service or lack thereof? Sheesh. Go give Wes Clark a hard time, he's a military general--BFD.

Sorry, we have got to stick together for the right reasons, not our backgrounds.

326 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:50:33pm

Beagle (#321),

Hemp was there when they wrote the U.S. Constitution. I'm not sure what that means.

I believe the first drafts of Constitution were written on hemp paper. I'm not sure what that means.

327 Luigi  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:51:09pm

By keeping this information out of the media, the Democrats can control the circulation of the information. They can keep it from most Jews and other Americans and circulate it to the target constituencies, such as Muslims. The NY Times and the BBC are happy to help.

328 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:51:46pm

doppelganger @ 306

Whooo

Their yearly consumption at the time of the Revolution has been estimated at the equivalent of three-and-a-half gallons of pure, two-hundred proof alcohol for each person. After 1790 American men began to drink even more. By the late 1820s imbibing had risen to an all-time high of almost four gallons per capita.

Happy Days are here again...

This reminds me of the "ahem" Transcendental Period of opiates over the counter, for teething, cramps, headaches, malaise (lol), you name it, they took it. Plus the opium dens... for the upper class denizens... perhaps this should be brought back, and Durbin and Co can chill out while kicking the gong around.

329 bic  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:51:46pm

I guess it's just me, but the first thing I thought of after hearing about this mock impeachment was James Guckert is now completely vindicated.

There is no other way to see this other than as a group of " ... people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality".

He's like the Nostradamus of our time.

Sure, there have been hints of their lack of grip for a while, but this goes way beyond that. The divorce has happened and Gannon/Guckert called it months back.

Or maybe his proposed Rovean connections were true and he's been working in the backgroyund all these months to make this happen. Either way, way to go James (or Jeff or whatever he currently calls himself). Victory is yours!

=)

330 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:53:46pm

#322 Cole Slaw

Hear! Hear!

I have Dem family members and friends who are utterly convinced that we are heading for a Christian religious theocracy.

In addition to pointing out that the real theocracy threat they should worry about is Islam, I tell them that we marginialize the Buchanan's of the world and then I suggest to them that they do the same with their fringe left as they are making the Dems look whacko by giving them a high-decibel voice.

They don't get it.

Seriously. They don't.

331 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:54:59pm

Viva Gitmo Cuba Libre!

The Cuba Libre (KOO-buh-LEE-bray) is a cocktail made of

* 3 ounces Coca-Cola
* lime wedge
* 1 ounce rum
* 2 ounce gin (optional)
* 2 dashes of bitters (optional)

332 Ann  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:55:46pm

#307 skippyMoment

How can anyone allow themselves to be assoicated with the democratic party, and still consider themselves a patriot?

America must become a Socialist nation who feeds and props up all, including evil civilization's victims.

333 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:56:00pm

#323 rightymouse

Eh. Tfk seems to be harmless. Have never seen him incite a riot here.

I've seen him attack many long time posters. I've also watched him make many claims that just raise the BS flag for me. Sorry, in my opinion, he's a fraud.

334 sailordude  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:56:09pm

Since this is now the drinking thread.

GENERAL ORDER NO. 99

NAVY DEPARTMENT,

Washington, D.C., June 1, 1914

CHANGE IN ARTICLE 827, NAVAL INSTRUCTIONS.

On July 1, 1914, Article 827, Naval Instructions, will be annulled and in its stead the following will be substituted:

"The use or introduction for drinking purposes of alcoholic liquors on board any naval vessel, or within any navy yard or station, is strictly prohibited, and commanding officers will be held directly responsible for the enforcement of this order."

JOSEPHUS DANIELS

Secretary of the Navy.

A sad day indeed.

335 Luigi  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:57:07pm

330 rightymouse

I have Dem family members and friends who are utterly convinced that we are heading for a Christian religious theocracy.

At the same time Dean is giving the liberal Jews something to chew on -- the white Christian schtick -- his boys are meeting in private knifing the Jews in the back. The MSM bruits Deans' remarks and then conveniently falls silent about the antisemitism. I've never seem dirtier, more cynical, and more dangerous politics.

336 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:58:01pm

#325 alegrias

Did Charles appoint you our grand inquisitor of Tax Free's military service or lack thereof?

Who appointed you as the fact police?

She doubts him, you don't.

Go get nasty with someone else.

337 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:58:04pm
 #288

FreakyBoy  6/17/2005 03:25PM PDT
#280 BG
Pol Potstickers. LOL!


How about Mao Tse Tongue? Pickled, preferably.

LOL... gross... too funny!

338 skippyMoment  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:58:36pm

#332 Ann

America must become a Socialist nation who feeds and props up all, including evil civilization's victims.

Now that's a depressing thought.

I prefer the accountability society Dubya was talking about. But what the hell do I know. ;-)

339 jwbrown1969  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:58:37pm

#334 sailordude

Did you never get a beer day on ship? I had 2 in one deployment.

340 Ann  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:59:05pm

#325 alegrias

we have got to stick together for the right reasons

I'm with you on that thought. Yes, I prefer people to be real here. I just hold a lot of stock in honesty.

341 Belize042  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 1:59:27pm

#331 Bubble Girl

Order one with all the options, that's my strategy.

#334 sailordude

I understand the author of that regulation is the reason the Navy calls coffee "Joe."

343 Eggs Ackley  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:03:21pm

"The same can not be said for the Left. They, in stark contrast, allow these low lifes to run for President (ala Sharpton)."

I was channel-surfing a few months ago, and came across a program called, somethin' like, "Ron Jeremy: Diary of a Porn Star".
And there was The Reverend Al, introducing "My friend. Ron Jeremy"! I was stunned. Jeremy is as low-life scum as there is. And that's insulting to scum!

344 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:03:42pm

#342 Jheka

Damn, dude. You're spending far too much time in that fever swamp!

345 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:05:05pm

#300 BabaZee

"LOL and I am dirt poor! LOL"

Have you thought about writing op-ed? You have a great mind and a wonderful way of articulating ideas.

346 El Cid  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:05:52pm

331 Bubble Girl

Viva Gitmo Cuba Libre!

This one is a pissripper

Cuban Crime of Passion (CCP)


Ingredients:
1 part Spiced rum (Captain Morgan's)
1 part Light rum (Captain Morgan's or Bacardi)
1 part Coconut rum (Coco Ribe or Parrot Bay)
1 part Triple sec
1 part Pineapple juice

Mixing instructions:
Pour all the ingredients into a mixer glass, shake violently, and then pour the mixture into a 12 oz. glass with ice.

347 Havoc  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:05:59pm

reaganite --

Are you still "on duty" or have you finally crossed over into the (well earned) Permanent Fishing trip Zone ?

Bubble Girl:

Is this your neck of the woods ?

If so, when reaganite "crosses over" to "former EOD" you should have him out and teach him the finer points of flyfishing for the elusive "Wild Cutbow".

348 be the meat  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:06:57pm

The Dems are losing the battle for hearts and minds. They know it and that's why we see such frivolity at such heights.

In the end the average American knows, in his or her gut, that radical Islam is enemy number one. The party that most effectively addresses that threat will thrive. The party which ignores it, talks it down or attempts to blame it on others will wither. What we are seeing now is this simple reality playing out.

If the Democrats were smart they would be attacking Bush and the Republicans for being too soft on terrorists. I believe that most Americans want the war on terror to be prosecuted with an iron fist, a brutal campaign with no quarter. Anything else would suicide.

Afghanistan and Iraq are the opening moments of a long war of attrition against an unconventional enemy that does not and will not acknowlege the traditional language of warfare. People need to wake up and become comfortable with the fact that to some degree or another the U.S. and its allies will "at war" with these fanatics until long term historical trends play themselves out. The idea that we can "withdrawl" and announce victory is ridiculous.

The enemy has created a formidable and mythic warrior class. We need to nurture and encourage our warrior class and give them everthing possible to facilitate the complete destruction of the enemy. Pacifism is not an option, unless you consider defeat an option.

349 doppelganglander  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:07:18pm

Jheka: Thanks for checking out DU so we don't have to.

And I'm finally done with my work! Damn, I'd get it done a lot faster if I didn't keep hanging out here. Time for a beer!

350 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:07:20pm

#333 reaganite

Why obsess over tax free--let's expand the big tent and care less about each other's qualifications and labels here, it's not about us. We've got bigger fish to fry and need all the help we can get on deck. Remember Reagan your patron saint made Democrats cross over because he treated them with respect though he was called an amiable dunce by his many detractors.

351 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:08:47pm

Oberto Sausage settles bias suit with Muslim employees

The federal agency filed a lawsuit against the specialty meat company in January, alleging that it discriminated against the workers by not allowing them to take an evening prayer break during Ramadan, the Muslim holy month.

Isn't it haraam for them to be working in a sausage factory?

352 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:09:13pm

Wrong thread, sorry.

353 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:10:03pm

#347 Havoc

Are you still "on duty" or have you finally crossed over into the (well earned) Permanent Fishing trip Zone ?

44 days and 21 days of leave left!

"former EOD"

Bite your tongue!

you should have him out and teach him the finer points of flyfishing

I used to tie my own flies!

But I'd love the trip!

354 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:11:04pm

doppelganglander (#349),

Time for a beer!

I'll drink to that. ;-Þ

355 Havoc  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:12:06pm

#350 Alegrias

The old party dems are gone. Reagan was able to throw back a scotch after hours with Tip O'Neal and cut a deal.

Now it's all Smear and venom. Name one Dem. leader of anykind who would spend one second alone in the Oval office or in Hasterts office or in Frist's to broker an honest deal.

Big tent days have given way to the Balkanization of the Democratic Party.

356 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:12:12pm

#350 alegrias
Good advice

357 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:12:22pm

reaganite,

I used to tie my own flies!

Damn! You're older than I thought. ;-)

358 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:12:53pm

Yay! My hook-up is getting some Mendicino Red for me on Sunday. It's going to be a good June and July!

359 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:13:44pm

Wish I was there, LOL!

360 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:14:02pm

#335 Luigi

"I've never seem dirtier, more cynical, and more dangerous politics.

Political antics have been pretty rotten and ridiculous many times in the course of our history, but I've never seen grown men and women behaving this badly.

The Democratic Party is dead.

361 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:15:12pm
362 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:15:17pm

#350 alegrias

Why obsess over tax free--

Obsess? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

let's expand the big tent and care less about each other's qualifications and labels here,

I'm sorry, I thought this was the site that "fact checked your ass". Could you please direct me to a blog that doesn't question outrageous claims? Pretty please?

Remember Reagan your patron saint made Democrats cross over because he treated them with respect though he was called an amiable dunce by his many detractors.

Show me where he made claims about himself that weren't true.

363 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:15:19pm

#345 rightymouse
Thanks...
I DO write
Essays/op-ed
novels
poems
I have aways written, I wrote my first novel at 6 LOL!


I just don't get published, LOL!

One day!

364 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:16:00pm

Havoc @ 347

Yes it is. Look at the map. On the East side of the Black Canyon National Monument and Gunnison River, about 4 miles from the park, next to BLM.

On 7,000 ft Mesa with the Gunnison National Forest, the Grand Mesa National Forest, the West Elk Wilderness, and the Monument in a circle around me.

365 Ann  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:16:14pm

#338 skippyMoment

Now that's a depressing thought.

My theory about these loonies is that there is a resentment about their world for whatever reason. They want to right all wrongs and make everyone happpy, therefore they want change - a liberal... oh, sorry, a progressive. And it's not their fault, of course... Evil does not exist, only victimization.

Yeah, I'm with Dubya, too! That stuff is too complicated for me.

366 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:16:47pm

#357 Geepers

Damn! You're older than I thought. ;-)

As I recall, aren't you a year older than me? ;-Þ

367 jwbrown1969  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:16:55pm

#360 rightymouse

The Dems have hysterical blindness brought on by their minority status.

368 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:17:04pm

Iron @ 361

Yep!

LOL

369 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:17:43pm

#351 Sarah D.

Unbelievable. And the feds did this. So anyone who employs muslims has to shut down the assembly line at prayertime. I think a lot of people are going to try to avoid hiring anyone who appears to be muslim. This sux.

BTW, Oberto makes the best beef jerky in the world.

370 Luigi  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:17:54pm

360 rightymouse

The Democratic Party is dead.

That would be the preferred outcome, but not necessarily the most likely.

371 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:18:10pm

#355 Havoc

I'm talkin' about us not balkanizing ourselves here, let's be nice like Reagan (ok, he did say trust but verify, but we don't have to do backgroundchecks at LGF was my point.) Let the dems frighten themselves silly. I want us to stick together instead of flame each other, is all.

#356 Babba

Thank you. As they say in GITMO:

Los Lizards,
Unidos,
Jamas Seran Vencidos!

372 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:18:34pm

#362 reaganite
fact checking your ass in my mind doesnt apply to fact checking tax free's posts...they are inscrutable, and in the grand scheme of things, inconsequential..IMO we have important shit to fact check. What's to fact to check in his posts? Where do you go to fact ocassionally fuuny and incisive check stream of consciousness gibberish? Just scroll!

373 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:18:54pm

El Cid @ 346

Yum ah mee...

Whoa... that calls for Bossa Nova music...

374 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:19:38pm

reaganite (#366),

As I recall, aren't you a year older than me?

[cough cough]

;-)

375 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:20:57pm

345 Rightymouse

I think so too... in fact, I know she should!

376 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:21:23pm
377 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:22:17pm

#376 rayra
ROTFLMZIAO!

378 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:23:46pm

#371 alegrias
Po-Jamas Seran Vencidos!

379 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:23:52pm

#372 BabbaZee

fact checking your ass in my mind doesnt apply to fact checking tax free's posts...they are inscrutable

I've been here since early 2002. In all my time here there is only one type of poster who is more hated than the trolls. It's poseurs.

I only made one comment today about TFK and got called on it.

Sorry, I still say he's a plant.

380 Peacekeeper  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:24:24pm

Big night! Going to Sears to find some ratcheting wrenches. I need 13/16 and 15/16. Bet you wished you were having big fun.

381 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:24:25pm

rayra @ Three Hundred Seventy Six

:cough: :cough:

:puff:

PuFf tHe mAGic dRagOn...

/Kerry's favorite doper song...

382 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:25:08pm

PK @ 380

LOL LLOL

383 Elcid  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:25:15pm

352 Sarah D.

Wrong thread, sorry.

Yeah HEY, take it to the Sausage Thread, huh?...LOL.

373 Bubble Girl...Sí la Nova de Bossa.

384 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:25:57pm

#363 BabbaZee

"I just don't get published, LOL!

One day!"

Well, you should get published.

Have faith and persevere.

IMHO, one of your abilities is to slice through BS at lightning speed.

It's a gift.

385 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:26:48pm

Peacekeeper (#380),

I need 13/16 and 15/16.

Just because, or are you fixing something?

386 Havoc  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:27:57pm

Bubble Girl:

You should have reaganite and iron fist out for a flyfishing and magarita drinking trip. I hear you get a really big hexagenia hatch sometime between now and mid-july. The Big Cicada hatch should be starting soon on the Green River over in Utah.

He deserves a good trip and you have the space before hunting season. Besides, he has 21 days off and needs a smartass guide who can make a mean margarita.

387 The Drizzle  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:28:14pm

I watched this parade of lunatics on c-span, and I love how they were surrounded by American Flags behind them; as if all those flags would provide cover for their hatred and treason. At this point in history, anyone that votes Democrat is helping terrorists. Fact.

388 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:28:50pm

#385 Geepers

Just because, or are you fixing something?

He's making a matched set, you know, 13/16, 14/16, 15/16...

210, 220, whatever it takes...

389 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:28:55pm

#384 rightymouse
[blushes]

390 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:29:35pm

#362 reaganite

You have a point, "obsess" over taxfree's background may be too strong a word, sorry, English isn't my first language. However I thought Charles' site was about fact checking political/defense/foreign policy issues more than fellow posters' backgrounds. We need to grow our ranks of like-minded people, whatever their background because there are more moonbats than non-moonbats on the planet right now. So I'm not gonna be picky about who's in the foxhole with me right now if the person's against islamofascists. Make nice like Reagan with Gorby, disarm a communist empire.

391 Elcid  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:29:45pm

380 Peacekeeper

I need 13/16 and 15/16. Bet you wished you were having big fun.

Ummm, don't forget the 14/16...just may need that thing...;).

392 Luigi  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:30:59pm

I just have one more point to make about what the Democrats are doing. Antisemitism has become the lingua franca of the anti-American world. It is the touchstone for jihadis and Berkeley radicals and just about anyone who hates America. It is how they recognize each other across cultures and languages. Antisemitism is where left meets right. The Democrats are definitely playing the antisemitic card in order to get votes and to open up another front in the war on Bush.

393 skippyMoment  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:31:29pm

#365 Ann

Interesting analysis. From my perspective I think it comes down to something a tad more complex - they want to eliminate the need for God by creating their own utopian society. If we (by this I mean them) can create the perfect society, where we do everything right, then who needs God. Besides, doesn't he just ruin all the fun.

I've listened and watched and had conversations with a number of more honest and saner moonbats about my theory. Some have agreed with me pretty much with the basics on this.

For all their rhetoric, the resounding theme appears to be we don't need, or do we want God (unless it is some lesser god) to rule over us. To prove we don't need him, we'll create this society to prove he is unnecessary, irrelevant, and/or doesn't exist.

That's just my opinion though. All the same, I'm sure a number of folks would love to point out just how wrong I am.

394 Elcid  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:31:44pm

388 reaganite

210, 220, whatever it takes

Wasn't the rest of that...38...39...whatever?

395 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:31:48pm
Ummm, don't forget the 14/16...just may need that thing...;)

Down in these here uncivilised parts we call that there a 7/8! ;-)

396 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:32:11pm

#379 reaganite
Could be, anything is possible, and maybe you are right. I just think that even if he is, so friggin what? As for how long you've been posting/reading etc, I know, I have been reading since 9/12/01... I only started posting after I left my job.

397 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:33:58pm

#390 alegrias

We need to grow our ranks of like-minded people, whatever their background because there are more moonbats than non-moonbats on the planet right now.

I'm not at all sure he's "like minded". A person who comes onto LGF and makes wild claims is normally bashed down.

Of all his "claims" his Sandia Labs job versus his living in Texas, is the simplest to debunk. Not to mention his military "history".

I don't know about you, I don't trust liars from either side of the aisle.

398 Zack  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:34:04pm

What excrutiating torture for moderate Dems. If the moonbat wing could just one time win a Presidential nomination, the ensuing landslide loss would be of such a magnitude that they could be permanently crushed. That is not likely, but because the bats are so loud and visible, they will continue to drag down donkey Presidential tickets. This will in turn keep those nutty bats nice and frothy and shrill, further assuring unending defeats as far as the eye can see.

Although one can enjoy the ongoing downfall of the morally bankrupt, lack of a viable opposition party is not particularly good for the Republic. So far, the Dems have allowed their domestic agenda to be thrown overboard by moonbat longing for dhimmitude and America hatred. Pity. The Donks will either expell the monsters in their midst or be condemned to share their fate in the flames of political hell. Defeat after defeat after defeat.

399 doppelganglander  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:34:37pm

The always brilliant Paul Johnson in today's Opinion Journal: What Europe Really Needs

Read it now, while you're still sober. No subscription required.

400 skippyMoment  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:34:50pm

#383 Elcid

I was going to post something about you blaming it on the bosinova, then I realized I misread your post to bubbles. [blushes]

But I still like that song. [what can I say, I was young and very stupid, and Vicki Carr can really belt out a tune]

401 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:35:35pm

#394 Elcid

Wasn't the rest of that...38...39...whatever?

Think "Mr Mom"...

402 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:36:56pm

#378 Babbazee

Po-Jamas Seran Vencidos means Pijamahedeen WOULD be beaten!

Otra vez, en Espanyol,:

Pijamas,
Unidos,
Jamas Seran Vencidos!

Fidel Castro uses this too, only they have to call themselves "El Pueblo Unido Jamas Sera Vencido" (by the USA of course)

403 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:37:05pm

#397 reaganite
I don't know about you, I don't trust liars from either side of the aisle.


I don't understand your beef at all here.
How is Alegrias a liar, just because his opinion is different than yours? Does that make me a liar too?

404 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:37:25pm
405 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:37:50pm

#396 BabbaZee

so friggin what?

Ever read the minigun thread?

Sorry, poseurs are shit.

406 Orson Buggy  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:38:01pm

Please, please, people. This is no different than the mock impeachment we did to ol Bill Clinton. You know, the one before the real one.

Oh, yeah, there was no mock impeachment, only the real one. The SOB deserved it too.

Millions of Americans are safer from islamist terror and the thanks GW gets is crap from the left.

The left never fails to raise my disgust-o-meter bar every day.

407 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:38:46pm

#405 reaganite
tax free is no minigun IMO
If you want my opinion on him e-mail me, I will not post it here.

408 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:39:30pm

#403 BabbaZee

How is Alegrias a liar, just because his opinion is different than yours?

I never said she was a liar, I was talking about TFK.

409 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:40:16pm

Reaganite, OK that makes sense, sorry I misread that.

410 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:41:43pm

#407 BabbaZee

tax free is no minigun IMO

No, he's not. IMO, he's worse. I still think TFK is a kos/DU plant.

411 Athos  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:41:56pm

#398 zack

If the moonbat wing could just one time win a Presidential nomination, the ensuing landslide loss would be of such a magnitude that they could be permanently crushed.

1972

Unfortunately, they didn't lose in Congress, so they were able to abandon our allies in SE Asia in 1974-75 to the 'joys' of real gulags (reeducation camps), millions fleeing into the South China Sea on anything that would float, and the murder of 1/3rd of the population of Camdbodia. Then, they got Jimmy Carter in as President in 1976.

Jimmy brought us 18-20% interest rates, a stagnant economy, near defeat in the Cold War, and the start of the islamofascist movement against the US.

412 Jheka  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:42:22pm

#344 LBB:

Nah, that was a couple of minutes doing a search for "impeachment."

413 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:43:23pm

#410 reaganite
Why would a stream of consciousness poster like that be an effective plant? What strategy could be at work? What is to be accomplished? What is the purpose of the plant?

414 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:43:38pm

I gotta go shower, Ann is bitching about all the sawdust...

415 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:44:53pm
416 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:45:19pm

#413 BabbaZee

What is to be accomplished? What is the purpose of the plant?

Think LGF Watch. See how stupid those neocons are..."

Now off to the shower.

417 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:45:30pm

#397 reaganite

Por el amor de Dios! Let's not be nattering nabobs of negativity, as Spiro Agnew said. Taxfree readily admits he's sustained headwounds and his posts are interesting Rohrschach tests. Even on meds, taxfree makes more sense than John Conyers and the taxpayer-funded poseurs running fake impeachments against our war president. Let's close ranks please.

418 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:45:37pm

#402 alegrias
Gracias!

419 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:47:01pm

#367 jwbrown1969
"The Dems have hysterical blindness brought on by their minority status."

One of the most insightful pieces I saw in our lefty Cleveland Plain Dealer last year was the notion that the Democratic party is nothing but a bunch of loosely connected people with 'victim group mentality' all hollering for equal attention and government legislation to support their various 'causes'.

There is a "geyser" (for lack of a better word) of American minorities (i.e. non-whites) who are sick and tired of being treated like ignorant people who cannot survive without hand-outs by the whites or people of color in power.

It's demeaning.

My libertarian husband taught me: "He/She who looks to the government to solve their problems is the first to feel the shaft."

420 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:47:12pm

#416 reaganite
They don't need him to do that, and if that was the purpose, they have failed miserably, because he has largely been accepted. All it proves is we are nice, and patient, and understand cryptic things. LOL!
Have a good shower.

421 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:48:20pm

nattering nabobs of negativity
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Nattering Nabobs!

It's been a LONG time since I heard that one

422 Elcid  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:48:21pm

401 reaganite

Think "Mr Mom"...

Yep...funny damn movie...Ummm, Michael ummm...shit what was his name..Keaton...yeah...with Teri Garr.

423 jwbrown1969  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:48:30pm

#419 rightymouse

Nice

424 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:50:27pm

#419 rightymouse
It's like we were saying the other night, the whole stand is inherently elitist /racist

425 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:50:45pm

#419 rightymouse

the Democratic party is nothing but a bunch of loosely connected people with 'victim group mentality' all hollering for equal attention and government legislation to support their various 'causes'.

That is the finest description of the Democratic Party I've ever heard. Got a link?

426 jlfintx  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:51:29pm

Hey Bubbles, was that an old Cher song?

Ya know,

Traitors, skanks and theives?

427 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:52:23pm

#420 babbazee

Thank you; now if I could only remember what Ross Perot said about the crazy uncle in the attic...we're an assisting community!

428 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:52:53pm

All Hail the Cult of the Perpetually Aggrieved Victim!

429 Checker77  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:53:06pm

A mock impeachment? Shouldn't the Dem's be preparing for '06 and '08, this isn't the best use of their time.

430 Athos  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:54:24pm

Surprisingly, an excellent editorial in today's LA Times - We are our history - don't forget it.

"Gulag" must not go the way of "Nazi" and become virtually meaningless. Europeans love calling Israelis "Nazis" — a transparent attempt to slough off their guilt like rattlesnakes shedding skin. ("See, the Jews are as bad as we were!") I'd like to ban the word "Nazi" except when applied to … Nazis. Lawbreakers would be ordered to learn what Nazi actually means.

I was amazed to hear about teenagers who don't know Fact 1 about the Vietnam War draft. But I have met college students who have never heard of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge — the genocidal monsters who treated Cambodia in the 1970s to a Marxist nightmare unequaled in its bestiality since World War II.

And I know college students who have heard of President Kennedy but not of anything he ever did except get assassinated. They have never heard JFK's inaugural promise: that America would "pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to ensure the survival and the success of liberty." But President Bush remembers that speech, and it's lucky he does.

To forget your own history is (literally) to forget your identity. By teaching ideology instead of facts, our schools are erasing the nation's collective memory. As a result, some "expert" can go on TV and announce (20 minutes into the fighting) that Afghanistan, Iraq or wherever "is the new Vietnam" — and young people can't tell he is talking drivel.

There is an ongoing culture war between Americans who are ashamed of this nation's history and those who acknowledge with sorrow its many sins and are fiercely proud of it anyway. Proud of the 17th century settlers who threw their entire lives overboard and set sail for religious freedom in their rickety little ships. Proud of the new nation that taught democracy to the world. Proud of its ferocious fight to free the slaves, save the Union and drag (lug, shove, sweat, bleed) America a few inches closer to its own sublime ideals. Proud of its victories in two world wars and the Cold War, proud of the fight it is waging this very day for freedom in Iraq and the whole Middle East.

431 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:55:05pm

I am the crazy Aunt in the attic!

432 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:57:04pm

#418 BabbaZee

"#402 alegrias
Gracias."

Phew! Thanks!

And I know that Ann is ok too.

People have different ways of saying things.

433 realwest  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:57:33pm

#403 BabbaZee - though reluctant to jump into the line of any fire, here, and with all due respect, reaganite was referring to tfk being a liar, not you. That's why he was talking about Sandia Labs and living in Texas (which I could appreciate more if I knew what/where Sandia Labs IS!)

I'm only troubled by one fact: I (allmost) always understand what TaxFreeKiller is saying! Then everyone else starts talking about his stream of consciouness nonsense and whatever and it makes me nervous!

;>p

434 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:58:33pm

#433 realwest
Thanks, he told me, I misread what he was saying.

435 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:58:56pm
436 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 2:59:56pm

#431 babbazee

Your our Zioness Auntie Mame saying life's a banquet, live, live--and death to islamofascists.

437 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:00:05pm

#433 realwest

Well, most of TFK's posts lately have been pretty lucid. But his first posts here were so incomprehensible that it seemed that while the words were English, the language was anything but!

438 jlfintx  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:01:23pm

So, I have to make lucid comments now?

Damn, might as well not speak.

439 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:01:29pm

#436 alegrias
LOL!

440 Paul  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:01:58pm

The leitmotiv, the backround noise, for this disgusting display was plain, old fashioned Jew hatred. What has happended to the Democrat Party, when did it go over the cliff?

441 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:04:37pm

#433 realwest

Sandia Labs are in New Mexico, which may be near Texas, and taxfree may be suffering from nuclear radiation fallout for all we know, or flashbacks. Does it matter, he's in recovery from headwounds, on meds, and amongst lizards with reptilian brains here. Get the Gestalt, the basic key words, forget the rest. It's like pointillism or abstract expressionism, very modern.

442 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:04:40pm

#437 Lizard by the Bay

Well, most of TFK's posts lately have been pretty lucid.

Have I been drinking too much or not enough?

443 Havoc  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:06:11pm

#400 SkippyMoment

Rabbi Daniel Lapin wrote a book about it a few years back, America's Real war - (and you're in it)

Goes something like this, the modern liberal left is partially (largely ?) populated by secular jews who have renounced their heritage and faith, are wholly ignorant of scripture, yet still yearn for that "uplifting spiritual meaning" in life so attempt to compensate with "Save the world utopian wizbang schemes", but find it's really expensive and nasty work to solve real problems , so dream up even more schemes and want to tax you to pay for them, and have to demogog & demonize other people to find a wrong to right to justify themselves.

Fairly interesting book. Rabi Daniel Lapin

You can judge this Rabbi by his enemies

444 Fatal  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:06:28pm

JFYI, the whole "George Washington grew hemp!" stuff is a bit misleading. He grew it to make rope (no nylon back then), paper and other fibrous products, not to smoke, that's what tobacco was for.

445 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:07:33pm

"What has happended to the Democrat Party, when did it go over the cliff?"

There were two real breaking points:
1960, when Democrats discovered the power and inherent bias of institutional media, and

1968, When savages and traitors rioted in the streets of Chicago, Mayor Daley called out the goons to defend the Party, and the media rebuked them for it.

446 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:08:29pm

#441 alegrias

Sandia Labs are in New Mexico, which may be near Texas, and taxfree may be suffering from nuclear radiation fallout for all we know, or flashbacks. Does it matter, he's in recovery from headwounds, on meds, and amongst lizards with reptilian brains here

Sandia Labs are not a short commute from Texas. It's in Albuquerque.
My point is when he posts one outrageous claim after another, why believe his "head wound" claim? Which BTW, has changed from one head wound to two now.

447 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:10:36pm

#443 Havoc
Interesting thank you

448 jlfintx  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:12:44pm

I heard some comments on the radio today by both Medved and Prager that really opened my eyes.

The point was is that most actors/actresses are close to ignorant, like say Tom Cruise, Russ Crowe.

They can get into a character, but they are borderline retarded.

It made so much sense.

449 Havoc  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:13:23pm
Get the Gestalt, the basic key words, forget the rest. It's like pointillism or abstract expressionism, very modern.

Sh_t ! its summer and now I have to put on the heavy waders.

Sounds ooo sooo dilitante.

Serat and Gaugin have nothing on yooo.


BTW Gaugin was a big phoney ... birds of a feather.

450 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:13:34pm

MIDDLE EAST: ISRAEL SHOULD ARM PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, SAYS PERES

Tel Aviv, 17 June (AKI) - Israeli vice-premier Shimon Peres on Friday said Israel should equip the Palestinian Authority (PA) with light weapons as part of a series of goodwill gestures premier Ariel Sharon intends to present to PA president Mahmoud Abbas when they meet next week. The Palestinians "are apparently facing many problems," Peres said in an interview with Israel Radio, "the light arms are really needed in order to maintain law and order and to fight Hamas."
451 jlfintx  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:15:13pm

I've heard it all now-I can die in peace.

452 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:16:36pm

#445 Shiplord Kirel
Good Evening my Captain.

453 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:18:06pm

#444 Fatal
True, but there was no ill connotation or illegal aspect to smoking it, anywhere in the world, untill the 20th century.

454 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:18:44pm

Crap - posted on the wrong thread again. Sorry. I'm reading this one, and posting on the other.

Apparently I get confused easily!

455 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:19:02pm

#424 BabbaZee

"It's like we were saying the other night, the whole stand is inherently elitist /racist"

Yes.

This is the Democratic platform:

People who are not wealthy, white, heterosexual Anglo Saxon Protestant/Catholic are too stupid, inept to make it on their own. And we, the Democratic Party, are here to keep you down just to remind you how hopeless you are because we want your vote.

Pathetic.

456 W-lover  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:20:00pm
Dems Stage Mock Impeachment

For the record, my middle finger isn't mocking anything.

457 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:21:06pm
458 Malleus Dei  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:23:10pm

Stupid, ignorant, anti-American moonbats.

459 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:24:05pm

#455 rightymouse Worst story that capture sthis from last election:
I had no yet left my job - there was a Jamaican man in the warehouse that had just gotten his citizenship, and we were friends. He was a great and righteous soul but no rocket scientist.
He comes to me on election day and says I am so proud, today I voted like as an American for the first time, and I hope you are not mad at me.
So I say Mr D how could I be mad at you, I'm so proud of you!
He says because I vote for Mr. Kerry.
So I tell him I am not mad at him, but why did he do it?

So he tells me - get this:
The woman that ran the office (black woman) Told him that BLACK PEOPLE VOTE DEMOCRATIC
only white people vote republican. That he wanted to vote for Mr. Bush but she explained to him how it is in America.

Did I go to her? Yes I did. Was there a fight? Oh yea!

460 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:24:51pm

#425 Lizard by the Bay

I don't have an online link. Sorry about that - try the PD online and search. May be subscription only.

But I will see if I can find the original clipping my husband gave me.

All I can say was that it was an extraordinary and insightful 'take' on the Democratic party in 2004 before the election.

461 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:25:17pm

{FISTICUS MAXIMUS}

462 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:26:06pm

#457 Iron Fist
Keep July 29 open, the date is now firm.

463 mich-again  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:27:23pm

Maybe after the democRATS are finished with their little Fantasy Island episode in which they impeach the president, they can get really fictional and pretend to have a Democrat Presidential Innauguration.

464 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:32:44pm
465 Havoc  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:33:28pm

#457 Iron Fist

Hey we could arrange a "ride" for your stalker with "Goth Girl" and the Devil Dolls.

I knew "Goth Girl" ten years ago before she became "Famous". She didn't pack heat back then but she probably does now.

She's got freinds in mean places, I think Sonny Bargers wife is an honorary member of her club.

466 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:33:47pm
467 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:34:10pm

#464 Iron Fist

Do you know how prevalent that saying is? It would be worth the agony of getting that degree just to be able to use that line!

LOL!

468 Spiny Norman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:35:08pm

#410 reaganite


#407 BabbaZee

tax free is no minigun IMO

No, he's not. IMO, he's worse. I still think TFK is a kos/DU plant.

How can you tell? Half of what he posts is gibberish, the other half is unintelligible.

=^D

469 jlfintx  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:36:26pm

What is with the substance of the nic taxfreekiller?

He a tax guy?

470 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:36:43pm

#466 Iron Fist

This is going to be fun!

Explosives, guns, and booze. Where can you go wrong?

471 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:37:21pm

#464 Iron Fist
May grandpa's name live forever.
I had to tell a prick of a Dr. at Sloan Kettering off once for the very same reason. I told him that his precious knowledge was not the sole property of the rich priveledged and educated, that I had an adequate medical dictionary and access to the internet, so get the eff off his friggin high horse and just tell me.

472 jlfintx  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:37:40pm

Reaganite, you still missed one ingredient. I think you know what it is.

473 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:38:24pm

Speaking of Chicago '68, the media fell into line and defended the rioters even while the riots were still in progress. They did so with sound-bites ("police riot") that were strikingly consistent from one commentator to another and that seemed to be much more the result of an editorial meeting than a hasty reaction to shocking events.
I have always suspected collusion between the Big Three networks and the collection of red-diaper babies and other VC agents who instigated the riots.
The violence of the rioters, and their carefully planned provocations, have naturally escaped scrutiny in most media or academic histories of the event.

Historian Steven Ambrose, however, documented a lot of it, supporting his claims with censored media footage and various first-hand accounts. The police were systematically and intensely assaulted, pelted with rocks and feces, and subjected constantly to obscentities and threats (including threats against their families). This had gone on for many hours before the police charged the insolent hordes on national TV.

They had held back initially. According to some former Chicago officers, this was because the attacking hippies were mostly middle and upper class college students and officials were willing to defer to them to some extent. The media certainly tried to invoke class privelege for the rioters, pointedly calling them "our kids" and the like. It is possible that both the media and the barbarians themselves believed that this gave them unlimited license to attack their social inferiors, the police and National Guard, in the streets.

Provoked beyond endurance, and fearing for the safety of the Democratic convention itself, the police finally reached the end of their forebearance and many a VC sympathizing trust-funder got his ass kicked.

It just happens that I was an eyewitness to a lot of this. Owing to some family associations more than anything else, I was a 19 year old "youth delegate" (oberver) and was very excited to see the great process in action. Little did I know. I was about to go into the Army and I really thought at the time that lethal force would have been justified.

474 book&page  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:39:54pm

#390 by way of 457

Hey - I know a little about this community!

I lurked for months waiting for Charles to open registration so I could get off the sidelines. I made some mistakes early on in my posting, admitted them, and acknowledged my place as a grateful pup being allowed to participate and contribute to the site.

The elders watched out for me, corrected as necessary (often by ignoring, rather than being snide), and encouraging my participation.

I could do lots of things right now - but I like being here.

475 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:40:39pm

I really thought at the time that lethal force would have been justified.

I still think this.

476 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:40:40pm

#468 Spiny Norman

How can you tell?

I can't say for sure, but my BS meter is way over red-line.

Half of what he posts is gibberish, the other half is unintelligible.

That's a big part of why. But really, his claims of meeting lawyers, congressmen, the General's staff is "mad" at him, Sandia Labs, it just goes on and on.

477 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:42:10pm

#472 jlfintx

you still missed one ingredient. I think you know what it is.

Yeah, but Ann would kick my ass...

478 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:44:44pm

I was putting beer into the bottom of the frig just now and forgot the top freezer door was open and when I stood up real fast I went down faster now I suffer from a head wound so please excuse my speech tonight! LOL!

479 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:44:56pm
480 Zack  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:46:04pm

411 Athos

1972 for the Donks was as 1964 for the Packs. Although some Dems might have opted for dhimmitude back then, it was not on the table. McGovern and Goldwater were - each in his own way - eventually vindicated. I was happy to support both. Today's Donks have the unique opportunity to put a self-avowed dhimmi in the national spotlight, but the best the moonbat wing can manage is a flash in the primaries. As with Dean, the party senses the outright suicide of such a candidate in the general election. Public fear of moonbats infiltrating a Clinton, Edwards, or Obama administration will likely prevent any of them from taking the big prize.
The result: permanent purgatory.

481 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:46:25pm

Rabbi Gruntstein!

482 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:47:57pm

BABBAZEEE! HowYOUDoin?

483 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:48:51pm

How YOU doin?
Tony is away flyfishing
I am drink posting!

484 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:49:23pm

HAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL YOU FATHERS AND YOUR FATHERS!

485 book&page  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:50:35pm

And Loppy (aka the darling of the hankie-droppers) - Sox 5 Bucs 4 (just a little north of you in ME)

PS - After the TX and OH bbq's, what date is the New England lobster bake scheduled?

486 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:50:36pm

#483 BabbaZee,

Imagine that lol!

487 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:52:18pm

I'm holding a can of cold beer on this knot on my head. ;-)

488 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:53:16pm

Poor Nammella!

489 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:54:31pm

I don't have to worry about some nasty muslim killing me I can do it by myself lol

490 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:55:17pm

Hey hey my friends!
So I sneak a rare evening reconoiter here, only to see this moonbat SH*T! What a world...how y'all doin'?

491 Havoc  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:55:39pm

#479 Iron Fist

Goth Girl is the psycho James Dean Trapped in a woman's body ... R-E-B-E-L.

I know she has facility with Numchuks and TaiKwanDo, and it wouldn't surprise me if she could converse with you in depth about small circle jujitsu.

Funny thing, her father was a Los Angeles based oil co. executive and she studied piano in New York and later in Boston at the Berkly School of Music, (Strictly Jazz).

I met her first time when she was playing a jazz gig at some financial dinner something or other.
She used to be highly intelligent, pre-Drugs & alchohol. Now she's "outlaw" famous, & got tatooed. I think she likes it that way.

Could she kick ass, --- no doubt in my mind.

Would she be dangerous to tangle with --- she has lots of friends in mean places, ... lots.

492 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:56:01pm

Hail Pax!

493 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:56:06pm

#475

Greetings, Lady Babba! How are you feeling this evening?

I really wonder what might have happened if the cops had opened fire. The riot would have stopped, no doubt of that.
The automatic reaction would be to draw an analogy with Kent State two years later, but I wonder if that is valid. Kent State was a much smaller event overall, with much less input from professional agitators, and the shooting apparently resulted from a breakdown of discipline in what was, and was perceived to be, a fairly contained situation.

In contrast, shooting in Chicago would quickly have spread to a very large area and might have gone on for hours. It is not impossible that the commies in Chicago were prepared for this and that some of them were armed.
Media-traitor indoctrination had been going on for an additional 2 years at the time of Kent State and this strongly influenced public perceptions, as did the realization that events had not really been out of control.
Chicago 68 was a whole different animal. There would have been an ungodly uproar in the aftermath, special commissions, trials and the like, but the loyalist side might have come out ahead.
If deaths had been in the dozens rather than the hundreds, the public might have rallied behind the authorities, especially since the opposition candidate, Richard Nixon, had taken a strong law and order stance.

494 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:56:12pm

Hey pax,

How's things over in 'Bama?

495 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:58:25pm

#459 BabbaZee

"So he tells me - get this:
The woman that ran the office (black woman) Told him that BLACK PEOPLE VOTE DEMOCRATIC
only white people vote republican. That he wanted to vote for Mr. Bush but she explained to him how it is in America."

It's sick.

The ones who are pandering to those of non-white pigmentation of skin, sexual preferences other than heterosexuality are the Democrats. They also pander to Communists, Socialists, the PETA types, Enviro-nazi Greenpeace types, blah, blah.

They can kiss my ass.

496 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:59:09pm

#495 rightymouse
Mine too!

497 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 3:59:50pm

Hey babba

{Babbazee}

Hey Nam! Wet'r'n'hell! We had a downpour this afternoon...I had just finished my yard! Took the day off today after that meltdown at work and some not so good news concerning Mrs.Pax health...but I'm in good humor...(got one right here in muh hand...slurp!)

498 Jefe  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:00:47pm

David Horowitz had an encounter with Ray McGovern, who was addressing a high school captive audience: Indoctrination in High School

499 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:01:44pm

#497 paxnhymn,

Hope Mrs. pax gets better, and I saw that storm heading your way today, we could use some here as well.

500 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:02:21pm

#493 Shiplord Kirel
My father was a cop, 1955-1979 NYC the 40 & 42nd precincts.
I felt all of those things very acutely in those days, because he was in these situations all the time. It was a bad time for men in that position, and it was the time when the emasculation of law enforcement came into play as well.
I have many memories of watching the cops and the soldiers on TV and fearing for my father's life, even if it was happening elsewhere.
He has many stories...!

501 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:06:32pm

Iron fist,

Thanks for the patches, they are better than great buddy. ;-)

502 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:07:34pm

Nam
Thanks pal. I put her on the prayer list that I posted on the dead thread this am...God is good.

Babba

I'm trying to work on a sermon for the names of God...I'm using the Aramaic "Abba" because it's in the text, Jesus reffered to God that way...anyway, I was doin' a search on the word, and I keep stumblin' on the damn band crap! ARRRGH! To the point...pardon my ignorance but gimme the brief skinny on Abba Eban..

503 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:09:03pm

Hey Kids!

Looks like I found y'all.

504 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:10:16pm

Hey loppy!

505 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:11:08pm

my loppy

{lops}

506 gyrene, armed gator of the north  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:11:42pm

From the D.U.M.B.:


Dear Ombudsman,

it is a sad sad thing to realize how deep has Washington Post fallen since the Watergate days. Dana Milbank's article "Democrats Play House to Rally Against the War" is nothing but an attempt at slandering Chairman Conyers, the Black Caucas [sic], the Democratic Congressmen, and the representative democracy itself. Have you no oversight over what actually gets printed in your newspaper? The facts are distorted, skewed and fabricated in this article in such a disgusting way that I am giving you my word today: I will never read Washington Post again until Dana Milbank is on your staff...

(Emphasis mine.)

They're frothing so hard they don't even know what they're saying.

Oh, wait. That's normal for the inmates over there, isn't it? Never mind...

507 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:12:33pm

485 book & page

Go Sox! Woo-hoo!

My mom is from Maine - Nana and lots of aunties, uncles and cousins still there.

LGF New England Clambake would ROCK!

508 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:14:05pm

#500 Babbazee

G-- bless your dad's cop service during the crazy Amerikkkan 60s which I missed while an elementary age US military brat in Spain. Funny how instinctively I trusted Franco's Guarda Civil who walked the streets near my bus stop like beat cops, two by two, talk about scary looking cops with black hats like Darth Vader. Paco of Sefarad will say of course it was TORTURE and a fascist dictatorship like GITMO--civil guards with batons and NO AIR CONDITIONING. My happy childhood, without islamofascists to worry about. Like Mayberry RFD.

509 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:14:13pm

Hey Pax

{Pax}

Prayers for Mrs. Pax, my friend. If there is anything I can do, no matter how small just say the word. You know I'm a lookin' for an excuse to get out of dodge, anyway! LOL

510 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:14:46pm

Loppy

LGF New England Clambake

this ol' coonass has always been imterested in y'all's clambakes.(prolly the seafood or the fact that coonasses generally eat stuff that other people call bait!)

511 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:14:52pm

Pax:
The Hebrew Names for G-d
[Link: www.hebrew4christians.com...]


Abba Eban
[Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]

History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives.
~ Abba Eban

512 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:15:10pm

'Nam

Having a nice night in TX?

{Nam}

513 Havoc  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:15:18pm

Shiplord Kirel:

I was in the Burbs in '68. Chicago was incited by Yippies and the Weathermen looking to get some kids royally brutalized for the TV effect to demonize the cops and the Dems.
(They did it in Ann Arbor just prior)

All the "Aquanet" hairspray in every grocery drug store on the Near North side was bought up by them in the week just prior getting ready for the rumble. ever see what happens when you light that stuff ?

They intentionally taunted and spit on crucifixes for hours in the faces fo the Irish Catholic cops.

I had an aquaintance that was National Guard there when the rioting started. He said is was obvious that while the National Guard had riot training on how to keep the rioters off -- The Chicago PD didn't. His greatest fear was they would get a weapon away from a cop or National Guard Soldier. Then there would have been shooting, ALOT of shooting.

Mayor Richard Daley Sr. Shut down the rioting on the Southside after the Martin Luther King assassination. He got on Radio and TV and issued a 24 hour curfew with a shoot to kill order, about 1/2 block burned on Roosevelt Road, 2 rioters were immediately shot dead molitov cocktails in hand. Then everybody went home. Compared to Watts, Detroit, Philly it was nothing.

You can bet your ass there would have been shooting. It was what the Yippies and Weathermen were hoping for.

A lot of well meaning dumb kids got killed at Kent State because of those _ssholes in the weather undergound.

514 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:15:32pm

Babba

I'm not hugging you right now. LOL!

515 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:15:54pm

#508 alegrias
It ruined him. But I am very proud of him!

516 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:16:23pm

I could go for one o' them clam bakes myself. ;-)

517 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:16:23pm

Good girl, Lopps!

518 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:17:18pm

All the "Aquanet" hairspray in every grocery drug store on the Near North side was bought up by them in the week just prior getting ready for the rumble. ever see what happens when you light that stuff ?


I repelled 3 rapist/muggers on a subway platform in 1982 with an aqua net torch, LOL!

519 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:17:23pm

510 pax

The red bugs are calling your name...

520 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:18:34pm

Pax, what is ailing Mrs. Pax, can you tell me? It will make the prayers specific.

521 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:18:59pm

'Nam

You too...if Babba is well enough to have a BBQ in August, I'll haul some down with me.

If not we can go to plan B - Book & Page's place. Right B&P? LOL

522 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:19:13pm

Yeah loppy it's nice and hot, meeting my oldest son for breakfast early in the morning then I'm going to spend the weekend with him and my grandson, big crawfish boil planned for Sunday. ;-)

523 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:19:23pm

Oh, Lordy.

I think we're in the late night (at least my EST time) lovey DT with you I adore.

{Nam}
{Babba}
{Lops}
{Iron}
{No2lib}
{Ann}
{Bubbles}
{Swampy}
(Taxfree - you're special, but darn, honey, use the translation website)

(Forgive me if I left anyone out - not intentional)

I could go on and on for all of you who have kept my mind straight after voting Republican for the first time in my life in 2004.

524 gyrene, armed gator of the north  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:19:43pm

485 & 507:

Yes. A Downeast clambake would be just the ticket. We have to stick together, as we're badly outnumbered here.

525 alegrias  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:21:23pm

#515 babbazee

Happy Father's Day--your dad did not serve in vain (nor was my Dad's service in hell-hole Pakistan and Vietnam the way Kerryites and 60s chicago hippies and Dick Durbin characterize). They gave their best, their lives in the line of duty, and we should be proud, damn proud.

526 RebTex  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:21:36pm

Hey Everybody!

527 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:22:34pm

Hey Mousey!

528 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:26:03pm
529 christheprofessor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:26:35pm

Hear Ye! Hear Ye!

CtP is in Da House!

530 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:28:04pm

522

'Nam

That sounds like a lovely weekend...I've never had crawfish. How tragic is that?

531 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:28:22pm

#525 alegrias
Happy Fathers Day!

532 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:28:52pm

ctp

I told you the wrong thread...sorry!

How's Loppy's Lab?

533 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:28:54pm

520 Babba

ok..I'll be brief as possible. Mrs. Pax for years has been a make-up artist for Clinique..she dearly loves her work (the only thing she loves as much is floral work, which she has done and is licensed for)...

Well, her hands have been bothering her...aching. WE thought it might be age apropriate osteoarthritis or at worst, carpal tunnel syndrome. Well, she went to the general quacktitioner, and then to a specialist. They has found an tumor (very active) in the carpal bones of her dominant hand. She has to have surgery very soon, a biopsy, of course there's a chance of loosing function of her hand, and she may have to give up what she really loves. She's devastated...I'm tryin' to keep a good face on it! I didn't wanna say anything yet. It may screw up my roadtrip plans..she will have to take off work for awhile..

534 Havoc  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:30:18pm

Oooo K.

I'm outa here.

East Bay LGF Stalker alert. Going to Hike the rim of the Lafayette Reservoir with the lovely and Talented Mrs. Havoc, so come & get me.

Be advised, when out, the Lovely and Talented Mrs. Havoc frequently packs heat, And the trap and skeet long gun just happens to be with me in the car this time.

After, you can look us up for dinner anywhere they serve (this ones for you reaganite)
...
Gordon on tap.

No, it's not named after THAT Gordon.

later lizards.

535 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:30:18pm

524 gyrene, armed gator of the north

Amen to that!

I'm starting a list of LGF New Englanders for future reference...or in case I need a place to crash. LOL

536 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:30:28pm

#530 loppyd,

Crawfish is the best but only when it's cooked cajun style and beer is the only beverage to drink with it ;-).

537 christheprofessor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:30:53pm

Lopps

Loppy's Lab is sound asleep, and grateful I'm home after the motorcycle ride (there was some gratuitous thunder after I left, apparently)...

538 BabbaZee  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:32:32pm

#533 paxnhymn
Ok thanks, got it.
Will focus on this for her tonight.

I have a big headache, I am going to sign off now.

LOVE YEZ ALL

539 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:32:56pm

Later Havoc!

540 paxnhymn  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:33:27pm

hey ya'll

catchya later...me and Mrs.Pax...

well, you figure it out

:-)

541 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:33:40pm

BabbaZee

I'm not hugging you goodnight right now.

LOL

Be Well.

542 Nahanni  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:34:10pm

The Democratic party is not in "deep, deep trouble".

The Democratic party is dead.

543 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:34:10pm

pax

You old dog! Woo-hoo!

{pax}

544 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:34:17pm

Night Babba. ;-)

545 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:35:44pm

537 ctp

The poor girl was left to her own devices while her father is out on the town? Tsk. Tsk. You need to get her a sidecar.

546 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:36:35pm

536 'Nam Grunt

Must you torture me so?

547 RebTex  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:36:44pm

I'm typing on my NEW COMPUTER!
No more Tandy for Ol' Reb!

548 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:37:20pm

Reb Tex

Hello, Cowboy!

/curtsey

549 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:37:41pm

Oh no, now Reb can send circa 1962 pickup lines over the internet even faster!

LOL~

550 reaganite  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:37:47pm

#534 Havoc

After, you can look us up for dinner anywhere they serve (this ones for you reaganite)

Thanks dude! Have a great night!

551 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:38:31pm

#547 RebTex,

What kind did you get Reb?

552 christheprofessor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:39:33pm

Ted Kennedy walks out of a bar...

553 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:40:24pm

Hey reaganite,

How you doin shortimer, you should be down there now. ;-)

554 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:41:31pm

Hey Sarah D.

{Sarah D.}

Are you horrible hormone teen free tonight?

555 RebTex  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:42:11pm

Nam
I got an HP Pavillion 305
My wife got an E-Machine (She wanted a flat screen...I wouldn't pay the difference for one)
.
.
.
Sarah
I'm still on dial-up.
1 step at a time!

556 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:42:25pm

552 ctp

gets into a car with a girl named Mary-Jo, drives off a bridge, swims away and leaves her to die?

557 RebTex  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:44:19pm

Hey Loppy!

558 christheprofessor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:44:29pm

#556 lopps

No, that was tragedy. I was going for comedy. I'll try again...

Ted Kennedy walks out of a bar...

;)

559 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:44:46pm

#555 RebTex,

I'm hoping to get a 19" flat screen for Fathers Day.;-)

560 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:47:31pm

#554 loppyd

Yep, for a whole week. House is too quiet.

561 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:47:49pm

559 'Nam

19" is close to 1/3 of my height! I call that is all the math allowed on this thread.

562 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:48:36pm

560 Sarah D.

Enjoy the calm while you have it. Run around naked if you want!

563 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:49:43pm

#562 loppyd

I dunno. I think I'm happier when she's driving me nuts.

And - I stupidly just opened my mail. Her book bill came in. $322. Holy crap.

564 RebTex  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:49:57pm

Nam
I'm hoping for you to get it!
Mine's a little deeper than hers...OK ...a lot deeper.
However, the picture is virtually the same.

565 gyrene, armed gator of the north  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:50:11pm

re: my #506:

Oops.

Sorry about the broken link. Go here and then find "Congressman Conyers hammers the Washington Post's Dana Milbank."

566 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:50:37pm

#527 'Nam Grunt

Hey there my hero!

#528 Iron Fist

"Picks her up by the waist and swings her in a circle."

Whoa. Careful there, darling. You may hurt yourself. I get hot flashes at my age.

#538 BabbaZee
Can you get out of NY into "cleaner" pastures where you can make the most of your awesome abilities?

567 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:52:24pm

#564 RebTex,

We are planning for everyone to be able to post real time from the BBQ so that should be fun!

568 christheprofessor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:53:36pm

#561 lopps

19" is close to 1/3 of my height! I call that is all the math allowed on this thread.

[THUMP]

569 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:57:38pm

gyrene, armed gator of the north (#506),

They're frothing so hard they don't even know what they're saying.

Well, that's one reason.

570 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 4:59:38pm

Geepers,

I hope you have a fantastic meetup buddy. ;-)

571 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:00:22pm

Reb

Congrats on your new 'putah...I still need to convince my mom she can't live without one. And to put it in MY room of course. LOL

572 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:00:58pm

568 ctp

Math and Basketball. Boo.

573 RebTex  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:04:08pm

Loppy
Thanks
I've waited for a number of years to up-grade.
I wanted to make sure these computers weren't just a passin' fad! LOL

574 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:05:48pm

'Nam Grunt,

Well you've got Sarah D. coming to yours so how can us northerners compete? :-)

575 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:06:23pm

#533 paxnhymn

That sounds awful for Mrs. Pax. :(

If it is a bone issue, perhaps Bubbles could help as she is an MD - am sure she could advise.

If it is a muscle problem, I could help.

576 mich-again  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:09:24pm

572 loppyd

Math and Basketball

Speaking of...The rim is 19" diam. The ball is 10" diam. So two basketballs can't get through at the same time, but its close.

Of course at the carnival midway, the rim is only 10-1/32" diam, so forget about that stuffed moonbat you're trying to win for the kid.

577 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:11:37pm

#574 Geepers,

I wish we could combine both BBQ's, man that would really be great. lol

578 RebTex  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:13:16pm

Mich Again
That's why, at the Fair, you play 3-ball pool.
If a person can shoot, they can win a big stuffed animal!

579 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:14:05pm

#574 Geepers

Send me a plane ticket and I will grace you with my broke presence! LOL!

580 rightymouse  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:15:03pm

Ok all you LGF lovies.

Off to bed now.

For all you Dads.


HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!

righytmouse

581 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:16:31pm

576 mich-again

Boo...Hiss!

*Math Anxiety sets in*

582 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:17:05pm

'Nam Grunt (#577),

I wish we could combine both BBQ's, man that would really be great.

No doubt.

I originally just planned to get together with Buckeye Abroad while he's home from Germany, and it just sort of grew.

Maybe next time we'll coordinate them all. How cool would a nationwide LGF BBQ day be?

583 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:18:28pm

#582 Geepers,

That would be awesome! We should try something like that next year. ;-)

584 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:18:43pm

582 Geepers

How cool would a nationwide LGF BBQ day be?

Too cool for school is what it would be.

Sign me up!

585 mich-again  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:18:57pm

578 RebTex

Really, my favorite game on the midway is the Jihadi shooting gallery. When they pop up from behind the rock, you hit em with the laser gun. When you hit the bonus jihadi who's wearing the bomb belt, the explosion takes out the whole row of them!

Friggin sweeet!

586 christheprofessor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:26:00pm

#582 Geepers

How cool would a nationwide LGF BBQ day be?

I think they are: Memorial Day, Veterans' Day, July 4th...

You know, the days all the leftists take advantage of the day off to sit back and gripe about America...

587 rayra[deleted]  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:26:04pm
588 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:26:16pm

'Night rightymouse.

589 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:27:29pm

Chris,

Then we'll make an LGF Holiday! lol

590 loppyd  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:31:21pm

Came down to this thread to say goodnight to y'all.

Happy Fathers Day to all the dads.

I Love ya!

G-d Bless and Keep the Troops.

Loppyd - out.

591 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:32:46pm

Hmm...guess that means no plane ticket! LOL!

592 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:33:01pm

Night loppy. ;-)

593 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:33:55pm

'Nam Grunt (#583),

If these little ones are any indication, we better start planning now.

loppyd's already looking for info. ;-)

594 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:34:09pm

#591 Sarah D.,

We'll take care of you here in Texas hon'. ;-)

595 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:36:00pm

#593 Geepers,

June next year it is and you are right about planning now. lol

596 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:36:01pm

Hey, RebTex!

Congrats on the new computer.

I have an E-machine!

597 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:38:43pm

Hey Swampy,

How are you doin, and what's an E- machine?

598 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:39:18pm

#595 Nam Grunt

June next year it is and you are right about planning now. lol

But NAM! We might have to go up North!

599 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:40:23pm

I ain't going up north. Unless Geepers sends me a ticket of course.

600 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:41:02pm

#598 SwampWoman,

We'll all have to stay together LOL!

601 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:42:15pm

#597 Nam

Ah'm jes' fahn, and I have the same kinda computer as RebTex's wife.

Hey, have fun this weekend!

I kinda sorta forgot this was Father's Day this weekend. Thanks for the reminder.

602 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:45:04pm

#599 Sarah D

And I ain't gettin' on no plane either. You better not plan on takin' any summer classes next year; I don't think Geepers be sendin' nobody no plane tickets.

Unless you send him a picture for his calendar.

603 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:45:05pm

Swampy,

Be sure and get something nice for Swampman now ya' hear. ;-)

604 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:46:20pm

North? We have to go North?

/looks out the window to the North...

605 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:46:33pm

We'll convoy, it will be like country comes to town, ;-)

606 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:47:51pm

#603 Nam

Be sure and get something nice for Swampman now ya' hear. ;-)

I will! I'll have to hit both Home Depot and Victoria's Secret.

607 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:48:12pm

Don't worry Swampy, they will be proud of us when we leave. lol

608 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:49:04pm

#605 Nam Grunt

We'll convoy, it will be like country comes to town, ;-)

A convoy of pickup trucks with gun racks and Bush stickers.

609 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:49:20pm

#606 SwampWoman,

There you go girl. ;-)

610 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:51:46pm

#602 SwampWoman

I ain't sending the picture till he sends the ticket.

611 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:51:49pm

#604 Bubbles

Well, you gotta go east. Are you in Colorado or Arizona right now?

612 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:54:02pm

Ya'll remember those biker movies, when they would all roll into some town and the cops would escort them? I wonder what sort of reception we would all get pulling into some yankee town lol.

613 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:54:33pm

SwampWoman,

I have an E-machine!

Did you see PC Watch's write up?

モバイルAthlon 64を搭載しArimaの 2300;W730-K8」。チッӢ 3;セットとして VIA K8T800を採用。15.4型 ワイド液晶を&# 25645;載する

"を搭載し" Couldn't agree more.

614 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:56:20pm

What is an E- machine?

615 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 5:59:07pm

#613 Geepers

Interpretation, please?

616 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:00:10pm

#610 Sarah D

I ain't sending the picture till he sends the ticket.

If he don't send the ticket, I WILL send the picture!

617 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:03:06pm

Well I have an early start tomorrow morning, I'll see you guys monday.

Support our Troops and their Families.

618 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:03:20pm

Sarah D.,

I ain't sending the picture till he sends the ticket.

[grumble grumble]

619 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:03:31pm

#616 SwampWoman

Are you threatening me or him? LOL!

620 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:04:04pm

#612 Nam

Ya'll remember those biker movies, when they would all roll into some town and the cops would escort them? I wonder what sort of reception we would all get pulling into some yankee town lol.

Prob'ly the same reception as if a convoy o' Yankees came through here.

Oh, wait, that happens every year here.

621 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:05:03pm

#619 Sarah D

Are you threatening me or him? LOL!

HIM!

622 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:06:24pm

#617 Nam

Goodnight! Have a GREAT weekend. Don't do nothin' too crazy and don't call Sarah D for bail money.

623 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:07:11pm

Night 'Nam!

624 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:09:11pm

Have fun this weekend 'Nam.

625 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:10:27pm

SwampWoman (#613),

It's all Greek to me. :-)

626 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:12:05pm

Me thinks Swampy is bein' nasty to me tonight.

I will be plotting Texas rebuttal!

627 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:17:07pm

#626 Sarah D

Me thinks Swampy is bein' nasty to me tonight.

I will be plotting Texas rebuttal!

Hah! Since I'm yer elder, you better be bringin' me glasses of sweet tea and plates of BBQ, young lady.

628 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:19:08pm

Geepers @ 613

LOL LOL ROFLOL

629 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:20:05pm

Swampie @ 611

In AZ... yeah Northeast... to some crazy place called Ohio...

630 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:24:05pm

#627 SwampWoman

Crap. I wonder if I can get a refund on my ticket ...

631 SwampWoman  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:24:14pm

#629 Bubbles

Nah, we have to pick a central location. Someplace that is equally inconvenient for everybody.

632 Geepers  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:36:16pm

Bubble Girl (#629),

to some crazy place called Ohio...

Crazy?!

Are you nuts? ;-)

633 piniella  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:48:40pm

#192 "To a Brit, that statement says the information is being gathered to support the policy."

Correct and any information that didn't support the pre-determined policy was ignored.

634 christheprofessor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 6:53:03pm

Damn, this thread is infected, too? Anybody know the number to Terminex?

635 quark2  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 7:08:45pm

@634 christheprofessor

Um..and its statement was totally inane.
Jest put on yer steel toes and do a little tap dance on its head. :)

636 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 7:11:25pm

#633

Sure, Pine-cone. We have your word for that, it must be true.
When will you learn that these authoritarian pronouncements of yours only dig the hole deeper?

637 christheprofessor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 7:11:53pm

#635 quark2

Truly a waste of good bandwidth, eh?

638 effoff  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 7:16:00pm

I took my girlfriend out for her birthday tonight and we went to The Prime Rib on K Street in DC. Shortly after we were seated, that hideous troll/terrorist Helen Thomas walked in and was seated at the table next to us. She was seated with several other wrinkled old handbags and all night long it was like listening to the Democratic talking points over and over. First, she refuses to call Reagan Airport Reagan Airport..."it will always be National to me" and the Reagan office complex "will always be Federal Triangle" and she thought it was appalling that they renamed both of them. Once she moved on to Bush it was the same old stuff..."stupid"..."liar"..."police state"..."first amendment is being tampled on by this administration"..."there is no more freedom of the press".

It was so sickening that it was funny. I felt like I was in an episode of The Twilight Zone. My inside voice felt like saying "Hey, it's Yoda! There must be a Star Wars Convention in town." And when I tried to say some good things about Bush and the War on Terror loud enough that she could hear me, my girlfriend kicked me under the table and told me to stop.

God I hate that bee-yotch!

639 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 7:39:06pm

#638 effoff

Eegad! It must have been creepy being so close to the none-too-well preserved corpse of such a prominent Camelot figure, while you were eating no less. I mean, most of the others; JFK, Jackie, Pierre Salinger; are at least safely buried.

640 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 8:49:29pm

#209 LSD

Qayyum said that Khan and Ahmed "divided our families -- brothers against brothers, sisters against sisters. If (CAIR) is going to go out to support these people, we're going to protest. We're going to try to get 400 to 500 people to go to the office in Sacramento. That's not a joke, either.

Now if they actually get 500 Muslims to protest CAIR that would be the first positive sign that Muslims can become Americans.

But, you know, it hasn't happened yet.

641 piniella  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 9:16:08pm

"First, she refuses to call Reagan Airport Reagan Airport"

Good for her! How many of Raygun's cronies were indicted? How many did Bush 1 have to pardon?

642 Sarah D.  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 9:52:58pm

#641 piniella

Go suck it baby, because you really are a ****.

643 christheprofessor  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 9:55:24pm

#641 PineCone

Of course, you knew better,,

644 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 10:12:44pm

effoff @ 638

My sweetie works on K street...

645 Bubble Girl  Fri, Jun 17, 2005 10:14:32pm

Geepers @ some number I can no longer remember

Nuts? Am I nuts?

Are you crazy?

646 Truth Lover  Sat, Jun 18, 2005 6:21:55am

Truly, theatre of the absurd.

More freaks than Fear Factor, Ripley's, and Jackass combined. Better dressed, though.

647 MagnaniomousCoward  Sun, Jun 19, 2005 5:55:12pm

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