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'Millennium Bomber' Ressam Gets 22 Years

Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 4:04:31 pm PDT

Ahmed Ressam, the would-be “Millennium Bomber” who was caught with a trunk full of explosives in 1999 on his way to blow up Los Angeles International Airport, has been sentenced to 22 years in prison—with credit for the 5 years he’s already spent in jail.

SEATTLE (Reuters) - A federal judge on Wednesday sentenced Ahmed Ressam, the “millennium bomber” convicted of plotting to blow up Los Angeles’ airport, to 22 years in prison for conspiracy to commit an international terrorist act, explosives smuggling and other criminal counts.

U.S. Western District Judge John Coughenour had been expected to sentence Ressam, who stopped cooperating with federal authorities in 2003, to 35 years behind bars. Prosecutors say his failure to work with them further jeopardized cases they were building against other terror suspects.

Ressam, who will get credit for the more than five years he already has spent in jail, did not speak at the hearing but offered a slight smile as he shook hands with his attorneys and interpreter after the sentencing.

“This period of confinement recognizes the seriousness of the crimes and the cooperation of Mr. Ressam,” Coughenour said in sentencing Ressam, adding that he hoped the decision would reflect the fairness and transparency of the U.S. justice system.

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1 whitetower  7/27/05 2:05:17 pm reply quote 0

Only 22?

2 Powderfinger  7/27/05 2:06:13 pm reply quote 0

Is that enough time to make Imam?

3 Ringo the Gringo  7/27/05 2:07:31 pm reply quote 0

Hopefully he'll get the Jeffrey Dommers treatment.

4 foreign devil  7/27/05 2:08:01 pm reply quote 0

Bye-bye love,
Bye-bye happiness, I think I'ma gonna die!

5 cavy  7/27/05 2:08:06 pm reply quote 0

Yeah only 22 ... that means less than 15 with good behavior I suppose

6 savage_nation[deleted]  7/27/05 2:10:10 pm 0
7 christheprofessor  7/27/05 2:10:17 pm reply quote 0

The Jeffrey Dalmer (sp?) with the broom handle appropriated, um, positioned.

8 cavy  7/27/05 2:10:49 pm reply quote 0

Guess who is going to be training those "american terrorists" ... could be he was sent to gin up the supply of "home grown" terrorists.

9 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 2:11:13 pm reply quote 0

That's 22 with 5 already served. I think he needs to get "served".

10 Tiburon  7/27/05 2:12:50 pm reply quote 0

Wonderful. And Jonathan Pollard, convicted for delivering to Israel, an ally State, life or death intel on Saddam's nuclear program already promised by the US Government to Israel, but withheld: - ...is in his 19th year of a life sentence.
Hurrah for US Justice.

11 Gagdad Bob  7/27/05 2:13:46 pm reply quote 0

This means 22 years of relentless, toilsome outreach in the Islamic gated community.

12 rabidsquirrel  7/27/05 2:14:30 pm reply quote 0

Great, so now he goes to prison where he has ample time and freedom to recruit other malcontents.

What ever happened to hanging? Firing squads? Electric chair?

Damn, I miss the good old days.

13 Ringo the Gringo  7/27/05 2:14:55 pm reply quote 0

22 years with 5 of them already served.

He'll recruit more death-cultist in prison and be out before he's 55.

Send the judge to Gitmo!

14 Gagdad Bob  7/27/05 2:15:09 pm reply quote 0

Let's hope someone has the common decency to give him an outreacharound in return.

15 religion of bacon  7/27/05 2:15:16 pm reply quote 0

“This period of confinement recognizes the seriousness of the crimes and the cooperation of Mr. Ressam,”

And if he would've cooperated, what would the sentence have been, six years with credit for five?

He's probably smiling because he thinks the US will be an Islamic state long before the end of his sentence.

Ahmed, meet your new friend, Tiny. The shower is at the end of the hall, and don't bother yelling for the guards, they're all hard of hearing.

16 Gabba Gabba Hey  7/27/05 2:18:36 pm reply quote 0

They should've fried him--in bacon fat.

17 sailordude  7/27/05 2:20:11 pm reply quote 0

Hey Ahmed...all your booty are belong to us.

/genpop inmates

18 SoCalJustice  7/27/05 2:20:34 pm reply quote 0
Ressam Gets 22 Years

He should be sentenced to 72 years in prison - one year for each virgin he thought he was going to get had he accomplished his plan.

Of course, CAIR should be demanding that he get the death sentence so he can become a martyr for the cause.

19 boymichael  7/27/05 2:20:52 pm reply quote 0

Washington State continues to amaze...

Democrats steal an election,
and then raise taxation...

It is no surprise they prove incredibly weak, in sentencing those, who wanted to murder thousands of people...

Poor Washington...

20 Gabba Gabba Hey  7/27/05 2:21:18 pm reply quote 0

Dear Ahmed Ressam
Will soon be acting the Ma’am
He’ll be the man of the hour
Such fun in the shower
He’ll be the meek sheep to the ram

21 EvilUncleAndy  7/27/05 2:21:57 pm reply quote 0

Wow.

They catch this asshat with explosives on his way to do the deed and he gets only 22 years?

Kinda makes you think what they would have given the 9/11 hijackers if they nailed them, tickets in hand with box cutters ready to board.....

Bad Terrorist! No frequent flier miles for you!

/wretch

22 DP111  7/27/05 2:21:59 pm reply quote 0
Coughenour said in sentencing Ressam, adding that he hoped the decision would reflect the fairness and transparency of the U.S. justice system.

Some hope. Muslims do not recognise the validity of any court of law except sh'ria. This sentence will simply confirm in this jihadi's mind, that the West is decadent and does not have the courage of its convictions.

23 Earl  7/27/05 2:22:10 pm reply quote 0

One presumes that, because he is an Algerian national, he will be deported back to his sh**-hole the instant that he is eligible for release. Assuming that he lives that long, good call above on the Mo/pederasty nexus.

Thankfully, he was not convicted in Canuckistan. He'd be out in 18 months, with full welfare benefits, social housing, a public transit pass, etc.- and the LLL pushing the feds for a full pardon. At least Stateside, he'll be dealt with appropriately.

24 boymichael  7/27/05 2:22:19 pm reply quote 0

SoCALJUSTICE rocks!

72 years...

and Koran to toss into the toilet...

25 sonofsheldon  7/27/05 2:24:11 pm reply quote 0

Normally I'm ambivalent about the death penalty, but I think its use should be open for anyone convicted of a terrorism charge, whether or not they were successful in its excecution. Why let him spend 17 years in a terrorist recuitment center followed by freedom? His crime is more serious than that.

26 Ringo the Gringo  7/27/05 2:24:28 pm reply quote 0

Judge's comments in Ressam sentencing

"The tragedy of September 11th shook our sense of security and made us realize that we, too, are vulnerable to acts of terrorism.
Unfortunately, some believe that this threat renders our Constitution obsolete. This is a Constitution for which men and women have died and continue to die and which has made us a model among nations. If that view is allowed to prevail, the terrorists will have won.

Rather than lecturing the terrorist scum sitting in fromt of him, this judge lectures the American people. What a bastard.

27 Earl  7/27/05 2:24:40 pm reply quote 0

#22 DP111

Any chance you could pls. drop by discardedlies.com once in a while?

28 Havoc  7/27/05 2:24:50 pm reply quote 0

In his "Muslim Classes" he'll be conducting in the Federal Penn. for his Muslim Brotha's


For short timer muslim brotha's of course.

Whatta wanna bet he'll be conducting, Bombcooking 101 -- How to cook High explosives in a Vancouver Motel Room and Detonators 101- how to make a detonator out of Radio shack resistors, a Casio Watch and a taillight bulb.

If they don't give him solitary.

I hope they sick the white gangsta's on him.

He's excrement in tennis shoes

29 insider  7/27/05 2:24:58 pm reply quote 0
30 American Infidel  7/27/05 2:25:21 pm reply quote 0

Just on FOXNEWS, this man may not testify against two other jihadists and OUR CASES against them will fall apart and they will walk free...

If that is the case, he should be executed...A.S.A.P....

31 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 2:26:42 pm reply quote 0

#19 boymichael

Washington State continues to amaze...

Democrats steal an election, check
and then raise taxation...
and then smack the bastards back with an initiative.

It is no surprise they prove incredibly weak, in sentencing those, who wanted to murder thousands of people...

Poor Washington... Sorry Seattle.....

32 Athos  7/27/05 2:26:52 pm reply quote 0
“This period of confinement recognizes the seriousness of the crimes and the cooperation of Mr. Ressam,” Coughenour said in sentencing Ressam, adding that he hoped the decision would reflect the fairness and transparency of the U.S. justice system.

I guess the fact that Ressam wasn't cooperating since 2003 held no real weight with this Judge.

And they wonder why there are legislative sentencing standards set......because this SURE SENDS A MESSAGE....

33 Ferny  7/27/05 2:26:53 pm reply quote 0

The ratio of these fanatics that step out of prison and go right back to it is way too high to be giving out such light sentences. This judge, motivated to "reflect the fairness and transparency of the U.S. justice system," has endangered us all.

34 Ringo the Gringo  7/27/05 2:26:53 pm reply quote 0

Let's try that link again: Judge's comments in Ressam sentencing

35 Renna  7/27/05 2:28:17 pm reply quote 0

Had he succeeded, had he blown to bits hundreds or thousands of people, Americans would have wanted to catch the barbarian responsibile and the death penalty wouldn't make him dead enough.

But since he was caught beforehand (which of course is the best way to do it) and this was handled as a criminal case, he only gets 17 years.

One of the legion of problems with treating terrorism as a criminal problem.

He may not have led a uniformed army of a specific country in an invasion of our country, but it was no less an act of war, and should be treated as such.

36 be the meat  7/27/05 2:29:12 pm reply quote 0

Mandatory death penalty for anyone attempting to carry out, assisting in the planning of , inciting others to, or the successful execution of a terrorist act. You can get 22 years for dealing pot.

This sentence is a disgrace.

37 Leper  7/27/05 2:29:20 pm reply quote 0

22 years? Sure, it's a Seattle judge! This is the same city that did not give the death penalty to the Green River Killer, even though he had killed over 55 women. Now these moonbats want to give voting rights to felons the minute they leave prison. It never ends when you're liberal, clueless and haven't been bombed yet.

38 Havoc  7/27/05 2:29:33 pm reply quote 0

Dang --

Over 150 years in prison to 22 with time off for time served --

-- that's some reduction for co-operatine.

Message to Ressan -- We'll be waiting for you when you get out. Can't wait to meet chya.

Better pray to your moon g_d, for a nice armed escort of 20 federal marshals to your one way jet to Algeria.

39 Rayra  7/27/05 2:31:38 pm reply quote 0

Waging Jihad should be a Death Penalty offense. They are perfectly willing to kill us / die as a martyr. It is only luck or good security work that prevents their achieving their evil intent. Kill them.
The only negotiation should be over how painless or halal it will be.

40 Havoc  7/27/05 2:32:30 pm reply quote 0

Renna --

When he gets out,

I've got a $100 says he won't live a month --

-- unless fed marshals escort him to his plane ride to Algeria.

41 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 2:35:28 pm reply quote 0

#37 Leper

This is the same city that did not give the death penalty to the Green River Killer, even though he had killed over 55 women.

That was a bit of political showboating on the part of one Sheriff Dave Richert, who is now congressman Dave Richert. They only had the goods on a few cases. They cut a deal, so that they could get closure on the rest of the cases.

Moral of the story, if you're going to be a mass murderer, the more you kill, the safer you are. And as congressman, this guy has been a major disappointment.

42 savage_nation[deleted]  7/27/05 2:38:27 pm 0
43 Renna  7/27/05 2:40:17 pm reply quote 0

Well, I'm going to take a minute here and be grateful for all the people that are alive right this very second because he was caught.

Someone driving home right now, someone eating dinner, someone kissing their child that would never have been born.

Here's to life. You failed, you death-loving pig.

And here's to all those that get that the best way to respect life is to stop those who wage death, and that it isn't contradictory or a cycle of violence to kill a killer in order to love life.

44 Athos  7/27/05 2:42:33 pm reply quote 0

From Hugh Hewitt's Site - part of the statement made by the Judge -

"First, that we have the resolve in this country to deal with the subject of terrorism and people who engage in it should be prepared to sacrifice a major portion of their life in confinement.

"Secondly, though, I would like to convey the message that our system works. We did not need to use a secret military tribunal, or detain the defendant indefinitely as an enemy combatant, or deny him the right to counsel, or invoke any proceedings beyond those guaranteed by or contrary to the United States Constitution.

"I would suggest that the message to the world from today's sentencing is that our courts have not abandoned our commitment to the ideals that set our nation apart. We can deal with the threats to our national security without denying the accused fundamental constitutional protections.

"Despite the fact that Mr. Ressam is not an American citizen and despite the fact that he entered this country intent upon killing American citizens, he received an effective, vigorous defense, and the opportunity to have his guilt or innocence determined by a jury of 12 ordinary citizens.

"Most importantly, all of this occurred in the sunlight of a public trial. There were no secret proceedings, no indefinite detention, no denial of counsel.

"The tragedy of September 11th shook our sense of security and made us realize that we, too, are vulnerable to acts of terrorism.

"Unfortunately, some believe that this threat renders our Constitution obsolete. This is a Constitution for which men and women have died and continue to die and which has made us a model among nations. If that view is allowed to prevail, the terrorists will have won.

"It is my sworn duty, and as long as there is breath in my body I'll perform it, to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. We will be in recess."

Obviously, this judge has issues with the unlawful combatants, military tribunals for those unlawful combatants, and for the holding of unlawful combatants under military tribunals.

Of course, we should all have an issue with his approach lumping terrorists (unlawful combatants operating under a declaration of war) with those who conduct crimes like assualt, battery, robbery, or even manslaughter / 2nd degree murder.

Nothing like a an added message to the terrorists on top of knocking down the prosecutors request by a third.

45 Havoc  7/27/05 2:43:12 pm reply quote 0

Judge John Coughenhour, U.S. Ninth Circuit (the most overturne U.S. Appeals Circuit in the country)

Testimony that everything is just hunky dory in the U.S. Ninth Circuit

Contradicted by Hundreds of conservative judges and attorneys that practice before the Ninth Circuit.

Hey Reagan got a number of mediocre Justices appointed.

Was probably a bone to the dem's in a deal over something else with tip.

46 WRATHOFG-D  7/27/05 2:44:31 pm reply quote 0

This guy was going to bomb LAX in 1999....DUDE that soooo wouldn't have happened if it weren't for the WAR IN IRAQ.

ALSO, don't forget: THE WAR IN IRAQ CAUSED 9/11.

47 Elcid  7/27/05 2:44:32 pm reply quote 0

The real threat is, how many will this POS 'convert' while he is in.

48 jehu  7/27/05 2:44:49 pm reply quote 0

The judge made this comment during the sentencing:

"I would suggest that the message to the world from today's sentencing is that our courts have not abandoned our commitment to the ideals that set our nation apart. We can deal with the threats to our national security without denying the accused fundamental constitutional protections

I am just about on my last nerve with these asshats that think they are saying something important, and they alone are carying on the heroic struggle of life, liberty, and the American Revolution.

Just throw the bad guys in jail you moonbat judge and STFU!

You are not Thomas Jefferson or Hamilton, or anyone of that stature. You might be able to hold your own with Homer Simpon.

49 WRATHOFG-D  7/27/05 2:45:50 pm reply quote 0

#48 jehu

hey.....leave Homer Simpson alone! ;)

50 savage_nation[deleted]  7/27/05 2:48:20 pm 0
51 jehu  7/27/05 2:49:02 pm reply quote 0

wrath

mmmmmm...dougnuts!

52 Lawrence Schmerel  7/27/05 2:50:40 pm reply quote 0

22 years? That's all? Attempt to mass murder gets you 22 years?

I think he deserves something much worse . . . like 22 virgin wives.

53 Renna  7/27/05 2:50:43 pm reply quote 0

#44 Athos

There sits a judge who thinks the Constitution applies to non-citizens.

We the people of the United States of America, in order to form a more perfect union...etc.

Despite the fact that Mr. Ressam is not an American citizen and despite the fact that he entered this country intent upon killing American citizens

we treated him like he was a citizen and a common criminal at that, not unlike someone who illegally copies movies, instead of a warrior from a foreign land sent to wage war on us, which he unquestionably was.

54 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 2:51:22 pm reply quote 0

#48 jehu

You are not Thomas Jefferson or Hamilton, or anyone of that stature. You might be able to hold your own with Homer Simpon.

But I doubt it.

55 Joshua Godinez  7/27/05 2:51:54 pm reply quote 0

Hugh Hewitt's on a tear about this issue.
http://www2.krla870.com/listen/

56 flagirl  7/27/05 2:53:09 pm reply quote 0

It's a good thing he wasn't caught with drugs. He may have actually done some hard time.

Too bad he didn't have Richard Reid's judge:

Sentencing of Richard Reid

57 Ringo the Gringo  7/27/05 2:56:25 pm reply quote 0

This is how it should work: Exchange Between Shoebomber, Judge Follows Life Sentence

"You are not a soldier in any war -- you are a terrorist."
"You hate our freedom -- our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, and to believe or not believe as we individually choose. ... See that flag, Mr. Reid? That is the flag of the United States of America. That flag will fly there long after this is forgotten. And it still stands for freedom."
58 Ringo the Gringo  7/27/05 2:57:33 pm reply quote 0

flagirl,

You beat me to it.

59 Lawrence Schmerel  7/27/05 2:58:34 pm reply quote 0

I hate hearing someone say "they hate our freedom." They don't hate our freedom. They hate us. They envy our freedom. If they had it, they would kill us.

60 flagirl  7/27/05 3:00:33 pm reply quote 0

Ringo, sorry about that. I just love what that judge told him.

61 rw in san diego  7/27/05 3:00:43 pm reply quote 0

Thanks for the lecture, judge. You just made sure this terrorist will be out among us in a few short years. Of course, that's after he does his best to propagandize the prison population. Nice work, moron.

As far as I'm concerned, turn them over to the military, and I don't want to hear about them again. They're terrorists, out to kill us all.

62 Missy The Cat  7/27/05 3:00:51 pm reply quote 0

"Shoe Bomber" Reid to the judge:

Your government has sponsored the rape and torture of Muslims in the prisons of Egypt and Turkey and Syria and Jordan with their money and with their weapons. I don't know, see what I done as being equal to rape and to torture, or to the deaths of the two million children in Iraq.

Sounds like a leftist to me.

63 madawaskan  7/27/05 3:01:46 pm reply quote 0

22-5=

17.

Then time off for good behavior

17-5=

12.

The prison is too crowded,

12-3=

9.

and his "suffering",

9-3 =

6.
plus the prisoners are looking at him cross-eyed or something according to the lawyer that Susan Surrenderon and that stupid Tim Robbins will probably pay for...

6-3=

3. The guy gets out in

3 years...maximum

Plus Hollywood pays him big bucks for movie and book rights...

Hey-

Let's Make Deal!

Better recruiting tool than that 80 virgins- B.S.

64 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  7/27/05 3:02:35 pm reply quote 0

So, once again, another self-rightous judge hands down a ruling that makes a mockery of American justice while ensuring that future jihadis that are caught red-handed will be able to walk away smelling like a rose. And yet, the Democrats keep wondering why liberalism is dying a very quick public death and their party is going the way of the Whigs.

Don't you just love the irony of the Left going on and on about how they're protecting the Constitution and the rights it guarantees, while most appear to not even have a basic understanding of it?

65 nyc10012  7/27/05 3:04:03 pm reply quote 0
66 rightasrain  7/27/05 3:04:13 pm reply quote 0

#62 Missy the Cat

I don't know, see what I done as being equal to rape and to torture, or to the deaths of the two million children in Iraq.

Sounds like a leftist to me.

Yeah, it sure does.

The number of children claimed to be killed is going up, I see.

In another couple of years, the terrorists will be claiming that we killed 50 or 100 million children in Iraq.

It won't matter that the newer numbers are way larger than the total population of Iraq.

67 rw in san diego  7/27/05 3:04:18 pm reply quote 0

BTW, is anyone else about to become as psychotic as I am toward the next person (such as this jerk judge) who refers to 9/11 as a 'tragedy'?

68 rightasrain  7/27/05 3:05:35 pm reply quote 0

#65 nyc10012

We have an entire topic about this.

69 madawaskan  7/27/05 3:07:36 pm reply quote 0

#67 rw in san diego

You startin' a psycho over Librules club?

Can I be your first member?

gawd-I don't know who I loathe more the LibRules or the Islamofascists...

They're such a team.

70 Crusader  7/27/05 3:14:28 pm reply quote 0

Anybody have an email address for that piece-of-crap judge? I have a few choice suggestions for what he can do with his lecture as well as the piss-poor excuse for a sentence.

71 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 3:14:38 pm reply quote 0
 #48

jehu  7/27/2005 04:44PM PDT

The judge made this comment during the sentencing:


"I would suggest that the message to the world from today's sentencing is that our courts have not abandoned our commitment to the ideals that set our nation apart. We can deal with the threats to our national security without denying the accused fundamental constitutional protections

Blah blah, covering our ass, blah de blah, yada yada yada...

72 Semper Fi  7/27/05 3:15:30 pm reply quote 0

Please Judge...no diatribe. All we want to know is how soon that potential mass murderer will be out and will he be a USA citizen when he does? By the way, your sentence was tempered with you own FEARS.

73 ibu guru  7/27/05 3:17:18 pm reply quote 0

not-so OT:

Has anyone seen anything more on the Indian illegal aliens shipping cash to a motel in SC?

The FBI and immigration authorities are working to unravel a mystery which they say involves two immigrants from India caught staying in the Houston area without legal documentation, possessing firearms and trying to use UPS to transport $29,000 in cash that they feigned was clothing to South Carolina

Or any more on the "men of Middle Eastern descent" (i.e. Arabs or men of Middle Eastern origin) seen with rocket launchers on the perimeters of military bases?

Beware of strange men with rocket launchers

74 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 3:17:26 pm reply quote 0

Justice is Blind...

75 karmic_inquisitor  7/27/05 3:17:26 pm reply quote 0

Prison these days is an Islamic Monastery. He will emerge in a few short years as an Imam with a following.

76 savage_nation[deleted]  7/27/05 3:19:41 pm 0
77 ShiksaGrrrl  7/27/05 3:20:37 pm reply quote 0

Just Home and scanning the news to no avail, I had heard one of the bombers in London was arrested with 12 more bombs in his car?

Rumour or fact please?

78 Geepers  7/27/05 3:20:49 pm reply quote 0

Ringo the Gringo (#26),

Rather than lecturing the terrorist scum sitting in fromt of him, this judge lectures the American people. What a bastard.

Which is why it made Kos's front page. They're calling him a hero, not for sentencing a would-be mass murderer, but for his lecturing us.

And to really get a feel for just how inconceivably blinkered some people can be, get a load of this comment:

Human rights, civil rights, is what KEEPS us safe. If we give those up, then we are in mortal danger. That's why even terrorists must have their day in court.

22 years. Is there early time off for good behavior?

So, in about 2027, he will be out and about. Let's see... my kids will be 25 and 28, possibly flying through LAX on a trip somewhere.

Ahmed was born in 1967. That makes him about 38 now, and about 60 years young when he gets out of prison. Plenty young enough to complete his mission. I hope he's had second thoughts by then!

I wish it had been a life sentence. There are some people, like terrorist bombers and serial child molesters, who just aren't safe to be let loose. Isn't it a great thing that our society gives people a second chance to blow up the people, or rape the kids, that they didn't get to the first time around?

It's the price of freedom, and it's worth the price, as long as my kids aren't blown to pieces because they're flying through LAX at the same time that Ahmed gets out of prison and finishes what he started.

Isn't that lovely. The price of freedom is never too high, just so long as someone else's kids pay for it.

79 ibu guru  7/27/05 3:21:23 pm reply quote 0
Coughenour said ... that he hoped the decision would reflect the fairness and transparency of the U.S. justice system

Palis, Pakis, et al. are laughing in their kaffiyahs at that one.

80 Zombie_Killian  7/27/05 3:23:31 pm reply quote 0

Just a random thought....I think a possible unintended consequence of this judge's (non)sentence for Ressam might be some sort of extrajudicial action in the future, since he's shown that even if you're a law-enforcement type who's caught a jihadi red-handed at the US border with a truckload of explosives, odds are he'll get a lighter sentence a forger or CEO who cooked the books. However , you could (hypotheticaly) say that the would-be jihadi was resisting or exhibiting suspicious behavior (like the Brazilian guy on the London underground) and take care of matters accordingly.


Not that I'd endorse such actions....

/*wink wink nudge nudge*

81 savage_nation[deleted]  7/27/05 3:24:28 pm 0
82 religion of bacon  7/27/05 3:25:27 pm reply quote 0

#67 rw in san diego

Don't forget, when Westerners are killed by Muslims, it's sad and tragic, but the appropriate response is self-examination to determine what we did to deserve it, plus asking our enemies what motivated them to do it. When Muslims are killed by Westerners, or even forced to wear a "Victoria's Secret kaffiyeh," it's an international outrage, there is no need for self-examination on their part, there can be no acceptable reasons for the Westerners to have done it, and their appropriate response is rage and violent revenge, preferably on civilians.

/vomit

83 nyc10012  7/27/05 3:27:21 pm reply quote 0

#68 rightasrain

thanks. i have a habit of posting to the most recent thread, regardless of topic. i'll try to see if there is a more relevant thread from now on.

84 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 3:27:43 pm reply quote 0
We can deal with the threats to our national security without denying the accused fundamental constitutional protections

I wonder if he will still be whistling that tune when he shows up for work and finds the courthouse missing?

85 right wing zephyr  7/27/05 3:27:50 pm reply quote 0

WE are such a great people. Forgiveness. yep.

Our beheading, slaughtering, evil enemies are just laughing their homocide bomb belts off over this.

86 Uncle Sticky  7/27/05 3:28:34 pm reply quote 0

I just don't understand 22 years. If this scum bag had been successful, he might have killed hundreds of people and costs our economy billions of dollars. Just because he sucked at his job, doesn't mean he should get a break and get out in the prime of his life. Same for any attempted murder. If you try to kill someone, and you only cripple the victim, you should still be fried, and not let off gently because you have crappy aim.

Our system is too weak.

87 Kevin Shook  7/27/05 3:28:39 pm reply quote 0

This makes no sense. The penalty should be as stiff as it would be if he had committed the crime and then was caught. Death by lethal injection.

88 whiterasta  7/27/05 3:29:15 pm reply quote 0

I hope the slimy cockroach gets AIDS after getting gang-raped.

89 religion of bacon  7/27/05 3:29:15 pm reply quote 0

#78 Geepers

Human rights, civil rights, is what KEEPS us safe. If we give those up, then we are in mortal danger.

What a moron. As if we're not already in mortal danger.

90 Rick Moore  7/27/05 3:31:01 pm reply quote 0

James Taranto ran a piece in his anniversary column for Best of the Web Today with links to three first hand 9/11 accounts from WSJ employees. Chilling stuff. Maybe this judge should go back and read these articles to see just what we're fighting. I've linked them here: Remembering Just What Happened on 9/11

91 BulgarWheat  7/27/05 3:32:11 pm reply quote 0

Wonder what size head-panties he's going to get?

92 Rayra  7/27/05 3:32:53 pm reply quote 0
#77 ShiksaGrrrl 7/27/2005 05:20PM PDT
Just Home and scanning the news to no avail, I had heard one of the bombers in London was arrested with 12 more bombs in his car?

Rumour or fact please?

It's what ABC is saying

93 Lizard by the Bay  7/27/05 3:34:26 pm reply quote 0

The minute he stopped co-operating he should have "disappeared" from his cell, with no further records indicating what happened.

I doubt he had family that would have dared complain.

94 savage_nation[deleted]  7/27/05 3:35:03 pm 0
95 ShiksaGrrrl  7/27/05 3:36:40 pm reply quote 0

Hope this works.......a friend at Notting Hill Gate tube in London took this photo yesterday with his camera.

96 Skookumchuk  7/27/05 3:37:09 pm reply quote 0

Naturally, Judge Coughenhour is from here in Seattle.

A nice little house in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, that's what I need.

97 ddd  7/27/05 3:37:13 pm reply quote 0

appropriate punishment burning in oil slowly.

98 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 3:37:17 pm reply quote 0
99 ShiksaGrrrl  7/27/05 3:37:30 pm reply quote 0

[Link: ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com...]


didnt work, will try it this way, if not, I give up ;-)

100 Cornholio  7/27/05 3:39:13 pm reply quote 0
“This period of confinement recognizes the seriousness of the crimes and the cooperation of Mr. Ressam,

But he stopped cooperating! The judge should have sentenced him to the maximum 35 years! Argh! Argh! Argh!

Here's hoping the terrorist slips and falls on a shank in prison.

101 Rayra  7/27/05 3:39:19 pm reply quote 0

Same as with the Virginia Imam, this terrorist was convicted and sentenced in a Federal Court. He's going to a Federal Prison. Not some movie-scene mass playground free-to-preach-Islam State Prison.
The convicted jihadists are being carefully pigeonholed away, likely with 1hr of outdoor time a day, alone, or near-alone.

Gotta be a link / site somewhere about these Club Feds - or more likely literally scores of LLLefty sites whinging about the Gulags, which will contain details of the Federal Prisons they are being stored in.

102 ibu guru  7/27/05 3:39:37 pm reply quote 0
Coughenour said ... that he hoped the decision would reflect the fairness and transparency of the U.S. justice system

Palis, Pakis, et al. are laughing in their kaffiyahs at that one.

103 christheprofessor  7/27/05 3:40:28 pm reply quote 0

It seems like jury awards in civil trials can be modified by higher courts. What about sentences in criminal cases? Can a higher court increase or decrease sentence it deems inappropriate?

104 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 3:41:48 pm reply quote 0

103 Chris

I don't know Chris... some sentences are mandatory... and I see no attorneys here.....

105 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 3:43:49 pm reply quote 0

I'm sure that Seattle resident Vladimir is happy about this.

106 savage_nation[deleted]  7/27/05 3:44:18 pm 0
107 ibu guru  7/27/05 3:44:33 pm reply quote 0

Whoops! Something went haywire and my new post got replaced with previous post. Phooey! But my apologies for double-post.

108 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 3:45:17 pm reply quote 0

105 Earth2moonbat

Perhaps Vlad the Impaler would have had a stiffer sentence. How's the spasms?

109 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 3:48:41 pm reply quote 0

#108 Bubble Girl

1. Vlad Tepes was on our side (those were Turkish heads on the sticks)

2. Back is much better. Is ethanol a muscle relaxant?

110 dreamabit  7/27/05 3:48:47 pm reply quote 0

# 93 Lizard by the Bay
“The minute he stopped co-operating he should have "disappeared" from his cell, with no further records indicating what happened.”

Years ago that would have been a possibility but since the liberals have literally castrated our intelligence with touchy-feely methods, this guy has no “incentive” to cooperate.

111 Luigi  7/27/05 3:48:51 pm reply quote 0

OT

Meanwhile the dreaded zionist enemy continues to hatch nefarious plots against humanity. They must be stopped! Soon there will be no disease or creative venture safe from their evil hands.

112 foreign devil  7/27/05 3:50:39 pm reply quote 0

Check this out...Nasrallah in Lebanon is warning Paris about banning Hezbollah.

[Link: www.dailystar.com.lb...]

"Nasrallah warns France blacklisting Hizbullah
By Leila Hatoum
Daily Star staff
Thursday, July 28, 2005

"BEIRUT: Hizbullah Secretary General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah warned that if France blacklists Hizbullah, it will be akin to branding all Lebanese as terrorists, as he reiterated the view that the resistance's weapons are a purely Lebanese issue. Speaking during a religious festival in Beirut yesterday, Nasrallah said: "I don't believe French President Jacques Chirac and the French would blacklist Hizbullah as a terrorist organization."

"He said: "The French have already banned Hizbullah's television station Al-Manar from broadcasting in France, and have already voted on UN Resolution 1559," which calls in part for disarming Hizbullah.

"But if they do go all the way and put the Lebanese resistance on the European list of terrorist organizations, then they would be delivering a message to the Lebanese saying we look upon you as terrorists."...."

Well...nothing subtle about that is there. Funny, seems to be a lot of this business of imams threatening governments. Why, just the other day it was the guy in Canada saying he couldn't be responsible for what his youth would do if Canada didn't make nice. Now here we've got this guy. I see a pattern developing....

113 Zombie_Killian  7/27/05 3:50:51 pm reply quote 0
Perhaps Vlad the Impaler would have had a stiffer sentence.

Yeah....I bet there's a stiffer sentence waiting for him in the showers....

heh heh

/Beavis & Butt-head

114 Cornholio  7/27/05 3:51:36 pm reply quote 0
#103 christheprofessor 7/27/2005 05:40PM PDT
It seems like jury awards in civil trials can be modified by higher courts. What about sentences in criminal cases? Can a higher court increase or decrease sentence it deems inappropriate?

Federal judges can depart from the sentencing guidelines. But it looks like Judge Coughenour didn't even try. My guess is that Coughenour is a bleeding heart "why-do-terrorists-hate-us?" liberal.

115 Geepers  7/27/05 3:52:31 pm reply quote 0

religion of bacon (#89),

I think this person feels that it's to be expected that the terrorists will murder us, what they're worried about is when Bushco finally succeeds in destroying the Constitution then she and all her friends will be rounded up and sent away to extermination camps if they don't become evangelical Christians.

116 Luigi  7/27/05 3:53:21 pm reply quote 0

112 foreign devil

Hizbullah Secretary General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah warned that if France blacklists Hizbullah, it will be akin to branding all Lebanese as terrorists

Either you say we're a religion of peace or we'll kill you.

117 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 3:53:21 pm reply quote 0

109 Earth2moonbat

2. Back is much better. Is ethanol a muscle relaxant?

Are you drinking it or rubbing it on you? Wait, don't tell me. I don't want to know!


/glad you are better

118 Renna  7/27/05 3:53:26 pm reply quote 0

22 years does NOT recognize the seriousness of the crimes.

He tried to kill thousands of innocent civilians and incite terror among millions others. A thousand life sentences served consecutively maybe.

119 J.D.  7/27/05 3:53:30 pm reply quote 0
120 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 3:54:32 pm