Multiculturism will be the downfall of Western societies.

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: There’s no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim friend, so a non-Muslim could be your associate but they can’t be a friend.

Can't we all just get along?

/LLL

Good news. I don't want him to assimilate. I want him to take his bigoted bull and leave.

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: The verse says (speaks Arabic). Specifically, this means, if you take that word literally, it means literally beat them lightly, like I would my child. Like that or like that.

Well, you Jihadists are going to get beaten severely.

Glad I was born here, and not to anyone Muslim.

Sheesh.

My # 1 post, in haste = Multiculturalism

PIMF

I have mates in Sydney....... everyone remember this, the Aussies are behind us in Iraq, over eighty of them were murdered in the Bali bombings in 2002. The sentiment in AU is not one of tolerance. The Muslims are tap dancing in a country where the men won't be afraid to put on their boots and kick the shit out of them.....

What the loony left do not and never will understand is that for Multiculturism to work requires that all parties be fair and willing to accept people from a different background. But then the L³ are not even tolerant of people born and raised in Western countries that do not believe the same as they do. To expect the atavistic Islamofascists to accept any ideas that are different from their twisted theology should go to Mecca.

#7 Bubble Girl - this figures. I posted something to you on the last thread and bingo! a new thread.
Rats!

#5 Bob's Kid: This guy was born here (in America) too and is a convert.

#8 FurryOldGuyJeans

You did it too = Multiculturism

Now I don't feel so bad. ;^)

That's a tough one..

Now he’s a true believer in the Koran, an uncompromising disciple of its strict justice system, travelling the world to spread his message.

Yah, um, I'm really positive that the Mother Jones/Michael Moore crowd would be all warm and fuzzy with this if just one simple substitution was made.

Now he’s a true believer in the Bible, an uncompromising disciple of its strict justice system, travelling the world to spread his message.

Why do I get the impression that this idiot is trying to provoke us into committing violence against Muslims?

Yeah, there's no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim as a friend. After all, the non-Muslim friend might open his Muslim friends eyes to the ethics and teachings of other societies/religions/cultures and we can't have that, can we?

Sounds like he's joined the Hive Mind.
Another happy Borg. :/

Ah yes - when multi-culturalism becomes "seperate but equal" one gets wife beatings, honor killings and the like.

Some on the left seem to be catching something of a clue - The Guardian had this on Wednesday, where they got on London's Mayor "Red Ken" Livingstone for having a double standard on suicide bombers.

The mayor is not the only one playing with fire. Unfortunately, he is part of a wider left that has, in the laudable effort to make alliances with Muslims, wound up hugging people who are sharply at odds with Britain's progressive tradition.

The sudden realization - that Islamicists may not be progressive.

Story # 70234 on hateful Muslims who hold positions of authority. Yawn. Until somebody actually does something about this cancer, I'll remain fatalistic...

Specifically, this means, if you take that word literally, it means literally beat them lightly, like I would my child. Like that or like that.Specifically, this means, if you take that word literally, it means literally beat them lightly, like I would my child. Like that or like that.

And if that doesn't work, you stone them, or slit their throats, or set them or fire. Like that or like that.

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: The verse says (speaks Arabic). Specifically, this means, if you take that word literally, it means literally beat them lightly, like I would my child.

Good grief, not "beat them lightly" again? More info here. And if you want to see another one of those Wikipedia free-for-alls, they debate "beat them lightly" here.

I think the Arabic is correctly translated as "whack the crap out of them delicately."

Well, we now have CAFTA, along with NAFTA.

As a small business owner, I'm not exactly clicking my heels with joy right now.

At least I know my Congress Critter voted no on this turkey.

Khalid was born in America and was once a patriot. He served in Vietnam, but then converted to Islam.

So, maybe it's all post traumatic stress disorder and what he really needs to do is get in touch with the VA.

Payback is a bitch, remember that ROP.

#16 karmic_inquisitor

The sudden realization - that Islamicists may not be progressive.

Shudder!

PETER OVERTON: Sheikh Khalid Yasin is not an enemy of the Western world but nor is he a friend.

Huh?

I need to see the video. Who's gonna do the work?

25 PDM

:D

Sheik Khalid Yassin is nucking futz and seems to be a bit paranoid. The 64 body question is whether or not he advances to the level of Islamodementia where he is a full fledged sociopathic killer.

9 realwest

Was it about our military?

This might be a good moment for Muslims to start reading about the Holocaust-- if only to learn what Europeans are capable of when they get in a mood.

As major Holocaust deniers it would be poetic justice if their willful ignorance bit them in the a$$.

I wish that future on no one--(if the Europeans get in "that mood" again it won't be only violent Muslims who suffer) --but they would benefit from a dispassionate study of history.

Few of them seem capable of that, though.

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: If you prefer the name of somebody on your clothes other than the name of the Muslims, if you prefer the clothing of the Kaffers other than the clothing of the Muslims, most of the names that's on most of those clothing is faggots, homosexuals and lesbians. God is very straightforward about this — not we Muslims, not subjective, the Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death. We don't make any excuses about that, it's not our law — it's the Koran.

Ricky Martin, meet Sheikh Yasin!

Does anyone else here feel like we are banging our heads against a wall? Its the same crap every day. The bloggers on the right can pull up all this information, verbatim quotes from these people showing they do not want multiculturalism. They want western civilization gone. They want sharia instead of secualr legal system.
I show these article to freinds on the left and they shrug and say its a minority, its not the mainstream..blah blah blah. The problem is that even if it is a minority, it only took 19 lunatics to kill 3000 on 9-11, it only to 4 to kill 80 in London. It only take one crazed martyr to kill alot of inocent people.
We will never stop this evil if the majority in the west do not realize that the "minority" of islam wants them dead and are willing to die if it means killing the infidel.

#11 Americain

#8 FurryOldGuyJeans

You did it too = Multiculturism

Now I don't feel so bad. ;^)

That's a tough one..

I spelt it correctly; everyone else is wrong. :D

#29 Bubble Girl - yes and I just saw your post in reply over there. And as usual, you're spot on!

This is why whenver I meet someone new, I suggest we go to the local barbeque place for a nice pulled pork sandwhich and about 10 beers.

Helps sort out the riff raff.

#30 transient

IMHO that was a very irresponsible remark, disclaimers or not.

Looks like Hooper over at CAIR got a press release together:

CAIR: U.S. Muslim Religious Council to Issue Fatwa Against Terror

WASHINGTON, July 27 /PRNewswire/ -- On Thursday, July 28, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) will hold a news conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., to release a fatwa (Islamic religious ruling) against terrorism and extremism. The fatwa is being issued by the Fiqh Council of North America (FCNA) and endorsed by major U.S. Muslim groups.

Representatives of the Fiqh Council, an association of Islamic legal scholars that interprets Muslim religious law, and leaders of several leading American Muslim organizations will take part in the news conference. (The term "fiqh" refers to Islamic jurisprudence.)

WHAT: Release of Fatwa Against Terror and Extremism/Release of CAIR Radio
Anti-Terror PSA

WHEN: Thursday, July 28, 10:30 a.m.

WHERE: National Press Club (13th Floor), Murrow Room, 529 14th Street NW,
Washington, D.C.

CONTACT: Ibrahim Hooper, 202-488-8787 or 202-744-7726, E-Mail: ihooper@cair-net.org

I'm sending a simple email to Hooper - The fatwa better be unequivocal. Cite that suicide bombings against Israeli civilians is terror too.

By the way, Hooper also produced a Public Service Announcement - [Link: www.cair-net.org...]

#27 Bubble Girl,

:D

LOL. He's not an enemy, and he's not a friend. He's just sort of 'there' doing his own thing (beating his wife... or whatever turns him on).

Never forget.

I Saw It All. Then I Saw Nothing.

I like to talk like one of you.

WTF?

#5 Bob's Kid: This guy was born here (in America) too and is a convert

Well I'm glad I'm not stupid, then.

Not trying to be unfair to Charles, but when has Multiculturalism ever NOT gone wrong?

#39 transient

They are already deniers of the Shoah..the 'PM' of squatter-occupied Israeli land wrote his thesis re there having been no such thing..and arafart's uncle, the not so grand muhti of Jerusalem was a collaborator with h*****. They will never admit it happened, never.

Here is an excellent article from The Times(UK), re today's followers of the cult: Beards and scarves aren't Muslim. They're simply adverts for al-Qaeda

LAST SUNDAY, hours after the terrorist attacks in Sharm el-Sheikh, a few dozen men and women gathered in front of the local town hall to vent their anger against those who had transformed the resort into a scene of death and desolation.
With cries of “No to murderers”, they invited others to join. At first many hesitated — after all, Egypt has sweated under a state of emergency for 25 years. And the ordinary citizen has little incentive to provoke either the Government or the terrorists. Nevertheless, in almost all parts of Egypt people followed the example of Sharm el-Sheikh with symbolic funerals for the 90 or so victims of the tragedy.

Remarkably, in almost all demonstrations the participants also remembered and prayed for the victims of the suicide attacks in London. For the first time crowds of Muslims were condemning terrorism without making a distinction between the victims on the basis of their faith. So, is this the beginning of the long-awaited Muslim awakening to a dark force that threatens civilised world everywhere in the name of Islam?

Sadly, the answer cannot be better than: perhaps, perhaps not. The 7/7 attacks in London inspired some sympathetic comment throughout the Muslim countries. But even then many commentators could not resist taking a swipe at Britain for having “hosted Islamist terrorists” for years. A number of self-styled clerics, including 58 Pakistanis, have issued fatwas (opinions) that, on the surface, look like a rejection of terrorism. A closer look, however, shows that they still have a long way to go before they could be taken seriously.

Some self-styled clerics, including many in the British Muslim community, have used semantic trickery to hedge their bets. They condemn the attacks in Sharm el-Sheikh but when it comes to the attacks in London, all they are prepared to say is that they “do not condone” them. More disturbingly, their statements include the usual litany of Muslim woes about Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan, and the assertion that “our youths” are right to be angry. The more they speak the more unspeakable they become.

In some cases sophistry is at play. For example, Yusuf al-Qaradawi, an Egyptian televangelist based in Qatar, has issued a fatwa pronouncing as “illicit” the murder of people who have “temporary or permanent accords” with an individual Muslim or an Islamic state; such as foreigners invited to work in a Muslim country. As for Muhammad Khatami, Iran’s outgoing President, it is “illicit” to murder “innocents”. The trouble, however, is that he does not define who is innocent and who is not.

Such people use ambiguities because a blanket condemnation of terrorism would extend to attacks on Israelis and Americans, whom they do not regard as “innocent civilians”.

But Muslims everywhere need to get to grips with a phenomenon that threatens all Muslim countries and Islamic communities in the West. This requires Muslim opinion-makers to take a number of steps.

The first is to discard the notion that anyone who is not a Muslim is an “infidel” and thus not a proper human being. Next, it is important to reject the belief that, since the goal of converting mankind to Islam is a noble one, any means to do so are justified. Muslims should accept diversity and compete in the global market place of faiths through normal channels, rather than ghazvas (raids) against “infidel” centres......

see article

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN :...most of the names that's on most of those clothing is faggots, homosexuals and lesbians. God is very straightforward about this — not we Muslims, not subjective, the Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death. We don't make any excuses about that, it's not our law — it's the Koran.

Celibrate diversity, LLLs.

Once the women are beaten into submission, it is not allowed to beat them anymore:

Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html

When your Muslim misbehaves, you must beat him lightly. Now where did I put that tire iron?

We just keep on getting these gems of ilumination over and over again, with the westerm press treating these animals as though they are just ill-informed westerners, rather than bloody murderers who won't hesitate to exact their particular brand of justice of the scimitar.

Who are we playing games with here? Do you really think you can reform people like this sonofabitch Sheik Yasin?

If you are that naive you deserve everthing that you are going to get if your concept of appeasement prevails. Slavery, loss of legal government, children raped and tortured, wives beaten and killed and the law of the beast.

Great, welcome to the world that you dream of, multi-pieces-of-garbage. This is your legacy, YOUR Sheik. Love him, he embraces your ideals until you start your 9-to-9 shifts in the salt mines. But don't worry, the Arabic ACLU and Arabic Teamsters will limit minor offenses like not praying toward Mecca to maybe 25 lashes with a flog.

Oh peace is nigh. Lunatics never change, appeasers hone their skills, denying denizens of the lost insist that we the majority are wrong, that Islam is the religion of wonder and eternal piece.

How ignorant can people possibly be? I live in a society full of morons who believe that by following the moon signs we can find balance in our lives, that Sting is a prophet, that Madonna represents the embodiment of the holy woman in the modern idiom.

Our societies are full of crap, and we are so nice we actually let the shitstains vote in our elections. They don't belong to us, they don't belong to our society. They belong to that special place where our Sheik resides, the land of lunacy and honey, or suicide bombers and seventy-two virgins, of lightly beating your children while not hesitating to dismember the head of an infidel to represent your faith.

All Muslims who are unwilling to deny the horrific message of the Islamists need to face their exact same fate: one of extermination, and hopefully within my lifetime.

We have an Aussie interviewer using the 3rd man technique to put on a circus with a monster, but at least as stupid as the Aussie is, he can scarcely win the sharpest knife award when we get statements like this from the Devil's disciple of Islam:

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: Australians have to wake up and smell the coffee. To what extent do people expect that people assimilate to where it gets to the point where you actually want me to imitate?

Yeah Sheikh, screw you and the stinking camel your rode in on. Tar and feathers went out of style in the early 20th century, but we might have to revive that particular celebration of lack of diversity, just in your honor.

You are a goddamn abomination of a human being. If you die, I won't even notice; but I'll sure as hell know if you are still hanging around.

Some people want milk and cookies, I want you off my planet by whatever means are necessary.

Can you understand the philosophy of my post?

I can get cannabis with my coffee

-- Peter Overton

I'm glad he made it around to the other interviews.

How is it that the LLL loves these misogynists?

Did I miss something somewhere?

So it is OK to whup the shit out of your wife, and a lunatic islamic caliphate is the ultimate goal, and the LLL still lines up with these guys?

And then they call conservatives homophobes and bigots?

Gee, I wonder what the LLL elite will do when some mutawa islamic police whips them across the eyeglasses with a dried bull-dick...hmmm, maybe Amerikkka wasn't so bad after all, huh?

#33 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hmmm, maybe you're right. :^D

And we believe we have more rights than you because we choose Australia to be our country and you didn't. So don't come to me now because you are the majority or you are in the power now to say to me, "Well, this is only my way or the highway". I won't accept that.

He's kidding, right?

Wait, is it like this, or more like this? I want to make sure I understand lightly beating thing right.

Reminds me of that old torch song "Killing Me Softly".

Only "beat them lightly?" This guy is a moderate.

#37 Karrmi

Hooper is the king of breath talkers. You won't get anything other than the usual "but" circus from him.

OT it's 11:00 pm CST Moonbats Brent Scowcroft and Sandy (Socks) Berger are on Charlie Rose (PBS)

I can't stand to watch it. I don't have the stomach. If some strong-stomach Lizardoid out there can watch it, please give us a report.

#56

Sorry, dog, can't go there.

Swore off PBS a long time ago.

1. we believe we have more rights than you.

2. Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death. We don't make any excuses about that, it's not our law — it's the Koran.

Could anything be clearer? To anyone but a moonbat?

One nutcase doesn't speak for the entire religion. I have several Muslim friends, and they're not puritannical like that guy.

It's comparable to saying that Catholics never use birth control, just because the Pope is against it.

One priest/reverend/whatever doesn't speak for every Muslim in the world.

#36 religion/ bacon

On the contrary. Muslims think they are going to take control of Europe. Maybe they will, maybe not. But while they are getting all zealous about their caliphate, they should give a moment or two to the thought that blowback is a bitch, people defend their home turf quite strongly, and there is recent precedent in Europe for random and horrific violence, even without cause.

I have never advocated the killing of innocent people, nor random/ mass murder of Muslims just because they are Muslims, even those who sympathize with the terrorists. Sympathy with the Devil, however heinous, is not a capital offense.

I understand that a seat has been reserved for Hooper at the next Boomershoot.He sould get a real bang out of it.

Oh, hell....

Time for the waders. It's gonna get deep real fast.

#49 imploder
re: misogynists

I posted this Tuesday, about an LLL x 3 event I went to recently. Gives you an idea of the flaming narcissism of the LLL feminists.

--I went to an event at the Players' Club in NYC recently, and an LLL director was speaking. She was intelligent, is evidently talented, has won a raft of awards as a playwright and director. All on Leftist political plays, natch.

At the end of her speech, she said a lot of new playwrights are "fired up" by "what's happening to our country, since Bush was elected," and are writing more, and more passionate, political plays. I wondered WHAT she's talking about. These people live in a parallel universe, where the Evil Bushlord has actually done something that directly affects their daily existence. She looked pretty sleek and prosperous to me. No one's stopping her from running her mouth.

But the bit that killed me was the last. She brought the ME Conflict (TM): "I know you're going to hiss at his name, but Bernard Lewis" (pause for effect) "said you can gauge a civilization by the state of its women. We all know there are things going on in some parts of the world" (not specified), "and women are dealing with mutilation, lack of civil rights, and so forth.

"BUT--we in the West can't become complacent. After all, it was just three years ago that a woman finally won a Tony award for directing, and only three women have won [this or that], and there are still just 3% women directors," etc.

How can being stoned to death for showing your ankles compete with these outrages? Or murdered for being raped?

Yeah, our civilization ain't perfect. But let me say here and now, we have the Best Men on the Planet. Hugs and kisses to you all.

xoxoxo

#10 Juliette

This guy was born here (in America) too and is a convert.

Which probably means he's been in prison.

Don't know if this was ever posted on LGF before (and I'm too lazy to do a search):

http://www.abc.net.au/sundaynights/stories/s943004 .htm

John Cleary: Could you have a secular Islamic state, like Turkey is trying to be over the years?

Khalid Yasin: No, it doesn’t work. These are experiments that have been tried but they haven’t worked. Now of course you can have it, but you’ll see that after a certain amount of time it disintegrates, it cannot work.

John Cleary: So ultimately the Sharia should become the law of the land?

Khalid Yasin: Exactly. It has to be.

[...]

Khalid Yasin: Ibn Kahldouhn, a well-known scholar of social history, the history of societies, he said that invariably, history tells us that governmental rule is a matter of competition. So governments inevitably, having their cultures and their ideas, are going to conflict with others in regards even for the acquisition of territories. And it is that competition and what powers they possess, that are going to determine who’s going to acquire, who’s going to inhabit, what areas. This is not your determination or mine, it’s the competition. At this point, Western civilisation has developed the institutions, the material power to acquire, to possess, to inhabit and to enforce sometimes, to impose. They don’t make any excuses about that, they do. And so when the Muslims are able to do so, they will.

Ahh, the Canadian Toolhead is here to compare personal decisions about birth control with MURDERING homosexuals.

Brilliant!

It is time for us to tell the moonbat brigade members to sit down, shut up, and let the adults handle the situation. They sure have no clue what is waiting for us just around the corner.

Is it ok to send the L³ and MSM to bed without their supper yet?

#55 really grumpy big dog johnson -

I am not holding out any hope for a meaningful fatwa. He and the rest of them will be going for the gold in Team Semantic Gymnastics.

#59 Canofstan

So I guess all your moderate [bigoted word] buddies are lining up for the next public mass demonstration of outrage against the explosion of little children's bodies, right?

Fucking asshole. Why do you bother returning here when you are so full of how right you are, there isn't a shim slim enough to separate you from the headslicers?

Hey Frog (canukistan) is back! Bonjour débile

I will only add that if Europe decides to repeat the past in light of the threat of Islam, Muslims will not be the only ones affected. Mobs running through the streets with pikes, guillotines, brownshirts and Nazi flags tend not to be very selective. It's something everyone should worry about.

#60 transient

All I'm saying is that comments like that are easily cherry-picked by people who would like to make LGF look bad. Don't get me wrong, I've strayed close to that line myself...

38 PDM

He's not an enemy, and he's not a friend. He's just sort of 'there' doing his own thing (beating his wife... or whatever turns him on).

Wow, you struck right at the heart of the matter... "whatever turns him on."

That seems to be the philosophy. Unfortunately beating women seems to be a turn on. Along with other things.

#59 canuckistan

One nutcase doesn't speak for the entire religion. I have several Muslim friends, and they're not puritannical like that guy.

Puritanical? Oh, that's a good one, especially when they're sawing your head off. Your friends? They're all apostates, and marked for death under the koran.

It's comparable to saying that Catholics never use birth control, just because the Pope is against it.

The Church doesn't go around chopping people's heads off for committing sin.

One priest/reverend/whatever doesn't speak for every Muslim in the world.

No, they're just the ones brainwashing people into strapping on explosive vests. No worries, mate.

Wake the fuck up.

#59, you are also hereby invited to come on down to Idaho for the Boomershoot. You can sit right next to Ibrahim Hooper so as to get a prime view of the festivities.

Where's Red Green and a roll of duct tape when you need 'em?

#32 elBarto

Does anyone else here feel like we are banging our heads against a wall?

Every freakin' day. Eventually, something's gotta give, and it won't be pretty.

"Muslims are like water coming out of a pure water spring and that all non-Muslims were like water coming out of a suburban sewer and they called on all Muslims not to assimilate into Australian society, because if a drop of suburban sewer falls into the pure water spring, it will pollute the water."

And they call LGF racist?

#71 transient

"Mobs running through the streets with pikes, guillotines, brownshirts and Nazi flags ...

I worry about that. You every try to run through the streets carrying a guillotine? You can throw your back out doing that!

That is why jihadhis carry dull, rusty knives for their beheading needs. No need to worry about them, though. The brownshirted white guys with their guillotines are a much bigger threat, huh?

#76 religion of bacon

And Harold!

/hey uncle red!

Look, here we have our own prime example... Canukistan is right about us saying all Muslims are like this bigoted Muslim in Sydney, that we should not judge all Muslims as being like this guy.

And he is right. Because I cannot judge all Canadians as being just like Canukistan. That would be horrible, just horrible if I did.

Besides, where's Cam?

OT We're gonna need an open thread here pretty soon.

CAFTA just passed the House!

11:31 pm CST

canuckistan says:

It's comparable to saying that Catholics never use birth control, just because the Pope is against it.

No one can possibly be this stupid.

from canuckisturd's profile:

Rumors of me having a 12 to 13 inch schlong are in fact true.

So watch out folks! You're dealing with a bad little boy who's very proud of his weenie. And you know how dangerous that can be.

JWM

Just watched a video on the FNC website, with Mahdi Bray telling some gullible reporter how the muslim American Society Freedom Foundation is going to keep young muslims away from extremism.

Yeah right.

TO watch it, go to the FoxNews website, and scroll down to "Fighting Terror".

Canukistan is trying to apply the illogical principle of "moral equivalency" to his warped sence of logic. Kind of analogous to saying a cube is a sphere with a bunch of sharp edges.

#79 karmic--

I read you! I was being metaphorical about the guillotine...don't err, cut my head off...!

#72 religion

I don't think any of my comments have yet been cherry picked. Should I consider it an honor? Have it framed? Do I need to call a caterer?

Khalid Yasin: Our Prophet, peace and blessing upon him, he didn’t incline us towards music. It tends to make the human being a little less responsible, less regulated, and then it sets a platform that we can see has manifested itself in Western society in particular. Music didn’t start out in the Western societies as it is today, having now been today almost sort of the breeding ground for all the vices that have torn the society apart. We don’t say that, that this is where everyone in music or art is headed, but it’s definitely the breeding ground.

He almost sounds like an Islamic Central Scrutinizer...

As you can see...girls, music, disease, heartbreak...they all go together...
- FZ

I posted this on the wrong thread and I'm going to post it again. Why? Because I feel like it.

The free world is in one of our biggest struggles. We are fighting the war on terror. You know head-choppers.

The LLL is fighting what? As far as I can tell they are in the battle of... "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Are you starting to realize what you have become LLL?

You thought the last election was hard to deal with. The next hundred are really going to piss you off.

#87 transient

I don't think any of my comments have yet been cherry picked.

Me neither (as far as I know), and Allah knows I've called them goatf***ers and worse...

#8 Geepers

No one can possibly be this stupid.

Canuckistan is breaking new ground in stupidity tonight. The ham-fisted moral equivalence stumble over to the Pope was sad to watch. Canuckistan can't explain the universe around him with his worldview, but the world keeps moving along.

"Why can't the CBC explain what's happening?" -- the cry of canuckistan

OT -

Missing Bill Clinton

It doesn't matter what party you are this is absolutely hilarious. Just
watched a show on Canadian TV. There was a black comedian who said he
misses Bill Clinton.

"Yep, that's right - I miss Bill Clinton!
He was the closest thing we ever got to having a black man as President.

Number 1- He played the sax.
Number 2- He smoked weed.
Number 3 -He had his way with ugly white women.

Even now? Look at him... his wife works, and he don't!

And, he gets a check from the government every month.

Manufacturers announced today that they will be stocking America's
shelves
this week with "Clinton Soup," in honor of one of the nations' most
distinguished men. It consists primarily of a weenie in hot water.

Chrysler Corporation is adding a new car to its line to honor Bill
Clinton.

The Dodge Drafter will be built in Canada.

When asked what he thought about foreign affairs, Clinton replied, I
don't know, I never had one."

American Indians nicknamed Bill Clinton "Walking Eagle" because he is
so full of crap he can't fly.

Clinton lacked only three things to become one of America's finest
leaders: integrity, vision, wisdom.

Clinton was doing the work of three men: Larry, Curly and Moe.

The Clinton revised judicial oath: "I solemnly swear to tell the truth as
I
know it, the whole truth as I believe it to be, and nothing but what I
think
you need to know."

I didn't pimf on purpose.

pimf only when I care.

Islam is a poison seed that grows a poisonous vine that bears poisonous fruit. There is no productive use to which it can be put. No benefit to allowing it in the garden.
JWM

#60 transient

they should give a moment or two to the thought that blowback is a bitch, people defend their home turf quite strongly, and there is recent precedent in Europe for random and horrific violence, even without cause.

That's what I was thinking. I'll bet the talk on the streets of Belgrade is something like "I told you so".

#94 - JWM
Come on, tell us how you really feel! You're among friends (except for the occasional troll).

#83 Geepers

No one can possibly be this stupid.

We keep taking turns saying that. Are you convinced yet?

How is Canuckistan going to react when Islamic law is the law of the land and revokes Canadian institutional health care (and all the other socialist gimme's)? Maybe he might change his tune he is playing on that rusty and dented instrument he keeps blowing on to regurgitate his socialist memes.

Canofstan is confused tonight. Confusion of 12-13 cm for inches is understandible when you live in a society that thinks that anonymity is a good thing.

OT -- I realized I've seen
FX's "Over There" before...

...in every negative cliche-filled Vietnam film between The Green Berets and We Were Soldiers.

Look past the modern slick music video production values and its there (FWIW I missed the first few minutes):

-The overeducated/sensitive soldier to provide soul-searching commentary.

-The tough NCO who may be wound too tight.

-The apparently incompetent Lt. hated by the troops who is only interested in looking good to his chain of command instead of looking after them.

-Most of the grunts are victims who were suckered into the Army -- or joined purely out of desperation.

-The one kid who is proud of what he is doing is portrayed as naive country white kid and even borderline simple.

- Token angry young black man -- smoking a joint on duty for some nice Platoon-esque Nam nostalgia.

- Nobody in sight who actually seems to have any belief in what they are doing.

- Apparently crappy training.

Oh and the choice of an old Huey for the medevac chopper was pathetic. Apparently the writers can't see past their hardon for some old negative 'Nam nostalgia.

I'm sure their one disappointment was that there is no draft to play up emotions.

About the only Nam stereotype-defying moment was the "what do you mean 'we'", "nigga or fool" speech by the black soldier Angel when he rejected the other guy's appeal for solidarity between brothers against The Man.

PS - FWIW the portrayal of the female soldiers under fire was not very flattering and refreshingly un-PC.

91 beagle
"Why can't the CBC explain what's happening?" -- the cry of canuckistan

CBC actually does a good job of telling it like it is, which usually causes everyone around here to start screaming bloody murder.

#82 Uncle

CAFTA just passed the House!

I'm in shock, here.

100 Newscaper

-The apparently incompetent Lt. hated by the troops who is only interested in looking good to his chain of command instead of looking after them

Yikes... I think I knew one of them!

Carl in Jerusalem
That's great! Can you remember his name?

#92 Carl in Jerusalem

Batta boom (tshhhhh).

#96Rightlogic:
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't soft pedal my criticism.

I'm not very fond of islam.

How's that? ;)
JWM

John Cleary: So ultimately the Sharia should become the law of the land?

Khalid Yasin: Exactly. It has to be.

There's your answer. I think it is pretty freakin' clear.

I think it is why the royal houses of Europa beat back the religion of hate when the gettin' was good.

Ferdinand and Isabela, they had their (Catholic) convictions. Boot the muslims out of Grenada and Andalucia and make the mosques into churches.

Folks, this fight is not new. It has been going on since, oh, let's see here, about 600 AD?

# 104 J.D.

Sorry, but no. I got it from someone else.

*******

For those who are wondering, here is why Israelis are still visiting Sinai. You won't catch me there....

#100 Newscaper

I liked the way it poked fun at how incredibly stupid it was to try to fight a politically correct war.

98 Furry
How is Canuckistan going to react when Islamic law is the law of the land

It will never happen. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is vigorously enforced. That's why gays can get married here, because the charter leads to that conclusion.

[Link: laws.justice.gc.ca...]

RAYRA is in the house!

/Let the cursing begin.

101 canukstan

CBC actually does a good job of telling it like it is, which usually causes everyone around here to start screaming bloody murder.

Sorry, but why is everyone up in Canada screaming bloody murder. And isn't CBC the news for the Mentally Challenged?

#100

-The apparently incompetent Lt. hated by the troops who is only interested in looking good to his chain of command instead of looking after them.

Believe it or not, treating your troops like crap will actually be noticed by an officer's chain of command.

It is most certainly frowned upon.

Beagle (#91),

"Why can't the CBC explain what's happening?" -- the cry of canuckistan

This is most likely a good thing. If they ever did start explaining it, his head would explode.

#103 Bubble Girl

Yikes... I think I knew one of them!

Only one? Must not have been in too long.

113 Bubble
Sorry, but why is everyone up in Canada screaming bloody murder.

Sorry for the typo, I meant everyone in LGF.

SwampWoman (#97),

I guess it's your turn for #101.

The Qur'ān has much to say about warring, and, at first sight, its views seem to be quite at variance from what we know of pre-Islamic Arabian views. The most often cited verses express a highly ideological approach to war. 1 They are understood to command unlimited war against non-Muslims, enjoin the killing of idolaters, and refuse to offer peace until Islam is the hegemonic religion. 2 The Qur'ān's message on the topic, however, is actually far from consistent.

Jihad: The Origin of Holy War in Islam
Book by Reuven Firestone; Oxford University Press, 1999 (Chapter III)

Great. We have inconsistency going for us.

 #114

imploder  7/27/2005 09:52PM PDT
#100

-The apparently incompetent Lt. hated by the troops who is only interested in looking good to his chain of command instead of looking after them.

Believe it or not, treating your troops like crap will actually be noticed by an officer's chain of command.

It is most certainly frowned upon.

Interesting.

#99 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I thought that was it's IQ!

canuckistan

How do we win the war on head-choppers?

The Canadian Charter of Rights?! Vigorously enforced? By you and what army? The closest thing that Canada has to a military is the RCMP. And when exactly have Muslims cared about the rights of others? Anyone? So good luck there Frog protecting your neck with that charter when your Muslim friends are done with you being an useful idiot and decide to give you an extra breathing portal.

Moron.

The OU - the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America - is the largest representative organization of "mainstream Orthodoxy" in the United States. They are also very pro-Israel. This is biting criticism:

OU: Israel guilty of discrimination

Savitsky has gotten himself in trouble before (last year he released a statement saying that just in the last few years people who had real jobs and families started immigrating to Israel - implying that those of us who came more than a few years ago were a bunch of losers). But this time, I'm afraid he's on the money.

#118

Sorry for the typo, I meant everyone in LGF.

LGF, everyone in Canada...

No difference there!

Except for the fact that most Canadians say Pablum for baby formula.

And most Canadians just say Pablum all the time!

#73 Bubble Girl,

Wow, you struck right at the heart of the matter... "whatever turns him on."

That seems to be the philosophy. Unfortunately beating women seems to be a turn on. Along with other things.

I don't know if pursuing what turns him on is his philosophy. But he is quoting verse from his "holy" book, so it's clearly a part of his religion. And the interview says it's the way he believes wives who disobey should be treated.

I won't even get into the disobey part. But this is just craziness. That kind of behavior is not called religious. It's called domestic violence, and it should earn the guy a trip to the police station in the back of a cop car.

Can you imagine him explaining it to the police?

"But officer, I only beat her lightly, like I beat my child."
-----
"Well Mr. Yasin come with us to the station. We'll book you lightly."

123 freedomplow
How do we win the war on head-choppers?

I don't have the answer to that question, but neither does anyone else here.

#119 Geepers

I guess it's your turn for #101.

Okaaaaay, but you have to take 111.

#42 FurryOldGuyJeans

Can't think of any such time, personally. First time it went horribly wrong was in ancient Rome, when their multicultural polytheistic society allowed a monotheistic culture to spread within, rotting it until those very same tolerant polytheists were suddenly outnumbered, and persecution of them began.

*sigh* With all the schisms that monotheistic cultue underwent, the result is, effctively, another new polytheistic society, with yet another strict monotheistic enemy striving to destroy it, to convert everybody to the only true way of being.

There are times when having advanced multiple sclerosis is a blessing. It means that I'll be dead and gone, long before the rest of y'alls. I just hope I can outlive my cats - after that, I'll be so very glad to finally leave this insanity forever.

Re: Over There again...

The military has inherent cluster-f**k qualities -- that's the way its always been.

But things are a helluva lot better than they were in the early 70s.

But you'd hardly know it by watching this show, for the most part.

A decent show would show things warts and all -- and *not* neglect to include that soldiers and officers exist who are competent and motivated (even if tired of the shit and want to come home ASAP - duh) ... and that they appear to be in the majority.

Just read some of the milblogs from guys fresh from the sandbox or still "over there."

# 128

I prefer Gen. Curtis LeMay's answer -- "If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting"

#100

-The apparently incompetent Lt. hated by the troops who is only interested in looking good to his chain of command instead of looking after them.

Did he get Three Purple Hearts in a couple of months? A sliver, a piece of shrapnel in his leg (the size of a pinhead), and rice pellets in his ass? Did he get to write all his own After-Action reports? Did some sorry ass Green Beret fall off the side of his tank?

#109 Carl in Jerusalem

I posted this elsewhere, but it will be no surprise to you: Poll: Most Palestinians credit terror for Israeli withdrawal

Most Palestinians think the Islamic insurgency forced Israel's decision to unilaterally withdraw from the Gaza Strip, according to a new poll.

The survey reported that a majority of Palestinians credit strikes by Hamas and Islamic Jihad for the decision by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to withdraw from the Gaza Strip and northern West Bank and evict their 10,000 Jewish residents. The poll also found, however, that only 40 percent of those surveyed want the attacks to continue.

The study was conducted by the Center for Opinion Polls and Survey Studies, based in An Najah University in Nablus.
Forty percent of respondents agreed that "pressure caused by Palestinian resistance" led to the Israeli withdrawal decision. Another 34 percent said Israel regarded its presence in the Gaza Strip as a "security and economic inexpediency."

Twenty-two percent of respondents did not cite the Palestinian war as a reason for the Israeli withdrawal. Instead, they said the pullout decision stemmed from international pressure on Israel.

[On Tuesday, Palestinian gunners fired a Kassam-class short-range missile into Israel. The missile landed in the Israeli city of Sderot. There were no reports of injuries. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility, Middle East Newsline reported.]

About 40 percent expressed support for continued attacks on Israel after the Gaza withdrawal. Fifty-two percent opposed the insurgency campaign and 8.4 percent said they were undecided.

A poll of Israelis reported a decrease in support for Sharon's plan. In a survey of 519 Israeli adults conducted by Tel Aviv University's Herzog Institute for Media, Society, and Politics, 48 percent expressed support for the plan. The poll reported that most of the respondents believed the withdrawal would bolster Palestinian attacks as well as civil unrest in Israel.

Is Arik still making kissy face with Chirac in Paris? Maybe they should keep in from re-entering Israel, as he is an enemy of Israel.

#121 Bubble

Seriously, leading troops is the job of officers, no matter the service.

If you do a poor job, it reflects. Example: (an AF example) Operational Readiness Inspections. There is no way the few senior officers who lead a squadron can do all the work. Therefore, they must motivate and lead their subordinates to take care of business. If they don't generate loyalty and love of those they lead, the troops get down in the mouth, they lose their motivation. If they abuse their underlings, things get crappy, and fast.

Sure, the enlisted guys take a beating for bad ratings in ORIs, but it is never a career-blunter, like it is with the senior officer leadership (senior NCO leadership members are generally near the end of their career paths anyway, so they are teflon).

132 Buckaroo
I prefer Gen. Curtis LeMay's answer -- "If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting"

Maybe, for every one you kill, ten more pop up.

 #129

SwampWoman  7/27/2005 09:59PM PDT
#119 Geepers

I guess it's your turn for #101.

Okaaaaay, but you have to take 111.

Stand back, 111 is mine... LOL

#133 Bubble Girl

A sliver, a piece of shrapnel in his leg (the size of a pinhead), and rice pellets in his ass?

Was that a swipe at one of our llorts?

canuckistan

I expected that from you.

I fight for what I believe in. You don't know what you believe in.

I'm not done yet.

#136, canuckocrap. You ever hear of John Browning? He pioneered solutions to that problem.

# 136

Oh my -- a) do you really belive in such a "regeneration fantasy"

b) Much as it pains you to admit it, at present, Western armies can, **if it becomes necessary**, up their kill rates by far more than a factor of 10

watch his little heart just go pitter-patter over such a concept

#135 imploder

Seriously, leading troops is the job of officers, no matter the service.

Repeat after me. "If you take care of your troops, they'll take care of you. If you don't, they WILL take care of you."

#136 Ca-buck-is-tan

Maybe, for every one you kill, ten more pop up.

Trust me, General LeMay (the father of SAC) preferred nuclear weapons.

While things seem bad in Baghdad, General LeMay would certainly have preferred to pave over parts of that country with blast-produced earth moving.

I think a nuke on Fallujah would have been some well-spent plutonium.

That's just me.

#138 Rayra

/Let the cursing begin.

I had to do that this morning. Needed to get someone's IMMEDIATE attention. Later, another co-worker stated they had never heard that many curse words strung together before.

#137 Bubble Girl

#129

SwampWoman 7/27/2005 09:59PM PDT
#119 Geepers

I guess it's your turn for #101.

Okaaaaay, but you have to take 111.

Stand back, 111 is mine... LOL

Hey! No fair! I got it to squeak, so 111 should be left to me :P

Nah, you all lizard-pile on canuckistan. Enjoy. I'll just sit back with my lawn chair and cooler to enjoy the show

#136 Canuckistan

Maybe, for every one you kill, ten more pop up.

No problem!

143 gymnast
136, canuckocrap. You ever hear of John Browning? He pioneered solutions to that problem.

Well that whole "kill enough of them" philosophy sort of fell flat on its face in Vietnam, now didn't it?

You killed 1.5 M Vietnamese, and what happened? You still lost the war.
[Link: www.vietnam-war.info...]

#151 Canuckistan

Well that whole "kill enough of them" philosophy sort of fell flat on its face in Vietnam, now didn't it?

You killed 1.5 M Vietnamese, and what happened? You still lost the war.

Nah, we won the war. The politicians decided to withdraw.

/There is a HUGE difference.

Can we all just say it now? ISLAM is the problem. Not the 'War on Terror', not 'Islamists'...ISLAM and the Koran, upon which the wily and immoral imams have based their fatwas of self-interest and damnation and connived and manipulated millions of faithful Muslims. These crafty, clever men of self-interest, have bamboozled the populations of their countries and mosques. Both the leaders of the Islamic countries and most of the imams throughout Islam are corrupt, men of grasping self-interest who foment political turmoil by use of one of the most evil weapons devised...terror. The people are not at fault. They've been badly served by those in both leadership roles in the government and in the mosques...the imams at the top of Islam's hierarchy.

The tree has poisoned it's own fruits with lies and made up fantasies of the afterlife which influence their youth to do terrible things to themselves and their families and others for evil political purposes and this poison has gone all through the society even to these youths. Now the poisoned fruit, having fallen to the ground, is seeping deep into it and poisoning the roots and the whole tree. The tree of Islam is rotten and must be cut down.

And btw, Iran showed it's naked aggression today by announcing it will restart producing euranium for it's atomic program and enunciated it thusly 'whether the EU or anyone else likes it or not!'.

The London bombing has also caused others to show their hand. First at a community mosque in my neighbourhood, the Imam for the Muslim Association of Canada more or less threatened the country and Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan to her face in front of the media and a roomful of people by saying that 'either Canada backs off Muslims or, well, we can't control our youth and...there's just no telling what might happen'. No mention is made of what she said.

Then today elsewhere on the open thread, I believe, is a link to Nasrallah in Lebanon threatening Paris and saying 'either you're nice to us or we'll tell our people you think we're all terrorists and then there's no telling what might happen..." Sound familiar?

Now this is a definite pattern and obviously a tactic they're going to start using. So here's what we do:

Our reply is "Well start packing".
Their reply will be "our rights, you can't do that...the Constitution...blah blah".
Our reply? "We're changing the Constitution...RETROACTIVELY!"
They'll say, "You can't do that because the law doesn't allow blah blah" and
We say "We just did!"
They'll say "You can't just change the law."
We respond "We can do what we please--this is war!...NOW PACK!"

Gee, isn't Canada the country that won't arm its border agents?

I remember seeing the Canadian legislative member defending that move, saying something along the lines of, "if our border agents have guns, things could get ugly if someone tries to force their way in..."

I was sitting there watching this on TV and I was just dumbfounded.

I guess I need to get with the times, go figure, some country actually defending their border, and allowing their border agents to protect their own lives from potentially murderous actors...

152 SwampWoman
Nah, we won the war. The politicians decided to withdraw.

You mean Saigon was planned? LOL!

#151, Canuckocrap. Just what did the North Vietnamese win?

157 gymnast
#151, Canuckocrap. Just what did the North Vietnamese win?

South Vietnam.

#156 Rayra

not for very long, you historically-ignorant fool.

You DO gots lots of ammo, right?

/It would be so embarrassing to run short.

You mean Saigon was planned? LOL!

What about Saigon was planned?

Saigon was the location of a lot of important action during the war. What are you talking about?

#155 Canuck-islam

Oh, I got what you're saying, you're saying we fled Saigon because the enemy gained the tactical advantage and ran us out of the country, right?

161 imploder
you're saying we fled Saigon because the enemy gained the tactical advantage and ran us out of the country, right?

It was hardly an orderly withdrawal.

#163 Rayra

My hero.

/I could listen to him cuss all day.

163 Rayra
Moron, YOUR Nation was right there next to us.

Canada didn't join the fight in Vietnam (if that's what you're saying.)

I hear that Anne Coulter believes otherwise.

Perhaps I should clarify my last post. To conclude: our war is with Islam...not the people but the imams and the heads of the Islamic states. If they want to earn brownie points by referring to the 'Islamic States' as entities when it's convenient to them, then the Muslim imams and the Saudi Princes and the Imams of Iran will be considered the representatives or agents of those Islamic states and will be responsible for the damage that is being inflicted on the world by the people they have twisted and aimed at us as living bombs, just as they test-marketed the technique for years in Israel.

Remember, Iran is the country that convinced children to go without weapons to war against Iraq with plastic keys promising they were the keys to paradise. Can you imagine the cynicism of that?

The Islamic States should now be considered responsible equally across the globe for what their representatives are doing. And all actions taken against those hierarchies, not the people in the street and not the mosques which cause no problems...but all others must be destroyed including the countries' leaders.

#158, Canuckocrap. Looks like South Vietnam is the winner now, as it carries the North on it's back and still has a higher standard of living. Kinda like Alberta and the rest of Canada.

#163 Rayra

No need to get mad at Canuckistan, since they are so obviously a product of being ignored by Mummy and Daddy when they were little. But then being such a flaming idiot is good enough of a reason to get ignored.

It was hardly an orderly withdrawal.

Yes, but do you suggest that we were beyond any means to resist further? That we were defeated? Or were we brought out by the way the political winds blew?

It is an important question, because Tet was disastrous for the North, we had their ass in a can. The will was not there to follow through.

Hmmm, with all the "quagmire" and "Tet offensive" parallels the media draws between Iraq and Nam, the one parallel I draw is the media's desire to see us lose...

And that goes for the lefties, guys like you, for example...

And for your enduring support, allow to say: Jump up a fat hog's ass!

Have a nice day

Canada's Involvement in Vietnam

[Link: dede.essortment.com...]

Rayra, I think the Canadian troops with cojones joined the US forces; Australian forces were there.

My guess: Khalid had a decent jumpshot in high school. Should have worked on it instead.

#165 Canuckistan

What a nincompoop you are.

#169 Rayra

And ain't that CNN story a bunch of weepy, bleeding-heart liberal shit?

/Sheeit, guess they think EVERYBODY failed history.

newscaper #100,

I think they ought to change the title of our entire clash of civilizations (not a bad title, in itself) to "The War on Bad Scripts", cause that is what we in essence are fighting. Its like these self-replicating programs that are on continuous loop in the meme minds of the leftist/Muslim lunatics. I'm rather angry, after having seen the tail end of a Bochco interview with O'Reilly, in which he assured viewers that among the soldiers who had screened the show, all loved it, saying it was an accurate portrayal. For a second there, I thought he was actually talking about reality, and being an F/X show, this might actually be a new notch on our current situation.

You don't need stereotypes to write characters. I'm trying to imagine if Shakespeare reworked all his characters to fit these neat, overworked stereotypes that Hollywood can't seem to lose its grip on, what sort of absurd dramas he would be stuck with. What makes this so wrong is its predictability, using the categories of race, socio-economic background, and geographical origin to reinforce, and not deviate from stereotype. The result is a crude and negative distortion of reality and truth. It doesn't matter what these characters say or do, the script is already written. Only the names have been changed to protect the propa-advantagists behind the cameras.

Islam is fascism claiming a religious sanction. Nothing could be more poisonous. Just because some Muslims canuckistan knows haven't (openly and overtly) "got with the programme" (yet), that doesn't change the nature of the ideology.
Like #153 foreign devil says, Islam is the problem. There are almost a billion people in the world who need to be freed from its stupifying, homicidal creed, and several billion more who need to be relieved from the need to be defended from the active votaries of that creed.
It's going to be a long, hard battle, but, for the sake of humanity, it has to be fought.

Anyways, it is late, and I tire.

Nitey nite, maroons!

Canuckocrap, Do your Muslim "friends" speak arabic to each other in your presence? Have you asked them to translate "Canuckocrap mafi mook"?

Canada's official diplomatic position was as a non-participant, but the country was not neutral in the conflict: it professed explicit support for the United States.

Canada was also a major supplier of equipment and supplies to the American forces. Under UN rules Canada could not send these directly to South Vietnam, but they could sell them to the United States. Throughout the Vietnam War Canadian manufacturers profited greatly from the conflict. These included relatively benign items like boots and whiskey, but also napalm and Agent Orange

And I'll bet it was crappy Agent Orange and napalm too.

Hey just kidin' ya canuckistan, I bet you guys made great defoliants and fire bombs. Why else would we have bought $2.5 Billion worth from ya?

#169

From the article:

Two million Vietnamese died in the war, while more than 58,000 Americans were killed.

I'm not saying we killed all the two million, but I bet it was at least 845,762...

So that's a pretty fair kill-ration.

The withdrawl? Thank the lame-dick public for losing their guts right when they were about to win.

Thank Jane Fonda and that ass-hat husband of hers (both ass-hat husbands).

Jane, you're old, you suck (both literally and figuratively). Please, come to my middle America town with your anti-war bus tour.

We're bringin' the love

You say that every night, canucklehead.

No one cares that you're leaving!

#180

Anyways, it is late, and I tire.

Nitey nite, maroons!

Translation: I demonstrated my complete and total ignorance yet again, and Rayra ripped me several new orifices.

Thank you for the education, Rayra. I shall retire to contemplate why mother aborted all the rest of my siblings.

Heh. Goodnight, y'all.

#176 Rayra

fuckstick

I prefer to use the term "knucklefuck". Yours assumes they may have a partner, while mine assumes they'll be alone. As usual.

YMMV...

#180 canuckistan

Anyways, it is late, and I tire.

Got a little hot on this thread eh?
Most trolls get flamed you got your ass napalmed by Rayra.

Mmmmm, nothing like flame-broiled troll to be one's late nite snack. *Sticks a fork in* Done to a turn!

To return to the article...

Don't you love the way he contradicts himself?

(Not exact phrasing, but these ideas are in the article)
A non-Muslim cannot be a friend to a Muslim; we have more rights than you because we chose to come to Australia and you didn't

and in the next breath

Of course we can live together - we're doing it now.

Bizarre!

#179 Edward and everybody:

You know what I think has happened to Islam? I'm just guessing and maybe Islam always was so bloody before the 1920s when 'Wahhabism' was born but during the Nazi era the Grand Mufti was good pals with Georing and Joseph Goebells (sp?) the master PR guy who knew how to manipulate the radio, films and newspapers. They didn't have tv then. Now they do...even better for Arafat. Arafat has taught these skills to his crowd of 'Palestinians'. Arafat, incidentally, learned all his dirty tricks in Moscow where he met and admired Stalin and where he trained as a terrorist.

Bin Laden is a product of another friendship between the Nazis and the Saudis during the Second World War. His family is the Saudis (he's their first cousin). During the World War II the Germans hung out at the Saudi palaces and Rommel was their guest on many occasions. Both the Saudis and the Nazis had many values and goals in common and both hated Jews.

Easy enough for old King Faisal or one of his sons to reinvent Islam without Nazi symbols but with Nazi fascist rules of behaviour and insert it into the social fabric of Saudi Arabia's Islam as a new sect called 'Wahhabism'. Now, thanks to their missionary work throughout the Umma, the whole of Islam becomes one great neo-Germany, first in the dessert, and now starting to be across the world.

The oil money allowed them to spread Naziism under this new disguise of a religion, sadly a religion that was already established but up till then had not perhaps been quite so viscious. Life could be lived. Now there were rules so strict and punishments so severe that the whole congregation of every mosque within Saudi Arabia trembles for their very souls before Allah for fear of breaking some of these MADE UP GODDAM RULES! NAZIISM ALL OVER AGAIN IN THE SAND!

IT NEVER DIED!

Of course they called this nouveau Islam 'Wahhabism'.

Nice game if you can get it. But the game is up. We're up against world wide naziism again and the same things are happening all over again that happened the first time...even though we promised ourselves it'd never happen again. So what do we do now?

The cruelest part of this is all the billions of well-meaning Muslims who've been duped by these Nazi devils and now think all those rules must be obeyed or lose your soul!

Someone deserves to burn in hell for this one!

The source of terrorism is Muslims...

The preacher of terrorism is the religious clerics...

If we can put a stop to the extremicism of these clerics, terrorism can be nipped in the butt.

Proof of this is Iraq and the insurgency within the Iraqi people - Al Sadr and his rhetoric. Once clerics over him were able to stifle him, he pretty much laid down arms.

If the world would open its eyes and put an end to these clerics of open preaching to kill others, terrorism could be squelched.

As for advocates of freedom of speech...I think the freedom to protect one's life supercedes freedom of speech - luck the bastards up and they can preach death and distruction to a brick wall!

Any one suprised canuckistan has mooslim friends?

Any bets he is ready to convert? (or already has)

Since Communism tanked, this is his next best chance to be a fascist.

Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign tower. Slash and burn, return, listen to yourself churn. Lock him in uniform and book burning, blood letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate. Light a candle, light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch a heel crush, crush. Uh oh, this means no fear - cavalier. Renegade and steer clear! A tournament,
a tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives

and I decline.

It's the end of the world as we know it.

Sydney is my city. For now.......

I'm very late to this thread so I haven't read any comments...hope I'm not too repetitive.

The message from these guys just couldn't be any clearer, could it?

SHEIKH MOHAMMAD OMRAN: We choose to come to Australia as Australia welcomed us to come. You didn't choose to come to Australia anyhow. And we believe we have more rights than you because we choose Australia to be our country and you didn't. So don't come to me now because you are the majority or you are in the power now to say to me, "Well, this is only my way or the highway". I won't accept that.

OK, if you immigrate to a coutry then you have more right to it than if you were born there, because you chose to go there. Wow. Also, just because the laws are there and in place by the people who live there, well, that doesn't count either because I come from somewhere else.

The more these people speak the more it becomes obvious they need to be gathered into one place and forced to stay there. Preferably the South Pole.

Foreign devil #195. Actually, I believe the Wahhabist form of Islam has been around for about 200 years. But the exportation can be laid at the feet of the house of Saud. (my .02)

The only reason the US lost the war in Vietnam if "lost" is the term you want to use...but the ONLY reason...was these leftist protesters getting their faces on tv and their miniskirted, booted girlfriends blissing out on the whole acid trip of 'changing the world' and showing mom and dad I can get on tv and be important too and look good. TV makes some people forget who they are. These young firebrands on campus with their radical speech and looks had the cameras enthralled and of course, the Soviet Communists have always known the power of iconography and propaganda. They practically invented it.

The liberal left became entwined with the Communist left and they pushed that image day after day after day of people in the streets yelling and yelling in cities all over the country. But it was staged. Sure some of those people had caught a buzz from the excitement or maybe they really even cared about the boys and gals over there or the Vietnamese...but the smoke was good and boy were we having fun! The music was cool and the Communist movers and shakers realized America had an achilles heel. Her people are vain....physically. There's nothing wrong with looking good or being fit...in fact it's important. And this is not the time to discuss this here except to say that Americans judge each other by how they look. Is the person good looking, well-dressed? In America clothes are status symbols and jewellery is code for ...I have this much money to own this...therefore I must have a certain amount of power. Everything is visual and that's what you see on tv as well. All these Britney Spears' pushing their assets at America's teens. Everyone wants to LOOK good.

But that's a weakness the enemy can exploit. Your vanity. Whether as a nation or as an individual. Self-confidence is important and looking good and feeling fit are key. But when you are open to persuasion because someone appeals to your vanity and tries to seduce you with a job or influence...if you accept...though you may think you've gained...you've been bought and paid for. They own you and they can now tell you what to do!

Even America's urgency to get back into space is part of this vanity. It's natural to be competitive and want to be first. It's just that it's not EVERYTHING and if it is...then the Nazis can exploit it.

I'm going to call them Nazis from now on because that's what they are. Islam...the former Islam before it was corrupted by these new rigid rules of behaviour...though violent, was livable. The people are not to blame for this though now they are part of it.

The point is Nazis will exploit your vanity if they want information from you. Remember every old movie your ever saw about WWII (in fact get them out and rewatch them for their techniques because that's what we're dealing with)and every rotten trick the commandant pulled? Well...Herman Georring meet King Faisal and Prince Turki al-Faisal, soon to be spending every waking moment at the UN working hope against hope to ' defeat the terrorists' doncha know!

Bottom line in the 70s, the Communists got inside the political left, the Democrats, and the campus crowd, and through the good looking gals, lots of pot always available and the sexual excitement of a fight, kept the momentum going until the political will of the government weakened through indecision and loss of focus.

We're in danger of that happening again. We're up against Nazis in turbans and we have to do what we did the last time...only smarter, faster, quicker! :)

#204 foreign devil... very intelligent post. You could also add that those kids in the 70's now hold positions of power, but they still have that "hate America" mindset, which makes them doubly dangerous.

But you're right. It's the same tactics the peaceniks used and the newer generation is falling for the same old lines.

"Understanding the Origins of Wahhabism"

[Link: jamestown.org...]

"War Crimes Investigator Says Al Qaeda Spawned From Nazi Third Reich"
“Al Qaeda is the direct lineal descendant of the Arab Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood"

[Link: www.warriorsfortruth.com...]

"Muslims Brotherhood, Saudis and Al-Qaeda"

[Link: www.navyseals.com...]

I guess that makes Bin Laden Hitler?

#205 kathyn:

And they're totally self-satisfied and chuffed with themselves, like Hillary, for having 'demonstrated while looking good' and now ruling the world...where's that camera? But they don't FEEL a thing and they can't feel the danger we're in.

#206 foreign devil....interesting info. Thank you.

gosh, it's almost 1 a.m. good night, all.

foreign devil - small wonder the Nazis and muslims got on so well, with so much in common!

It's time to leave work, so no more computer access for me for a few days. Good night, lizards.

#206 foreign devil

I guess that makes Bin Laden Hitler?

Now, you just abused Osama. Don't you know a good Muslim like Osama can do better than any infidel.

207 foreign devil

And they're totally self-satisfied and chuffed with themselves, like Hillary, for having 'demonstrated while looking good'...

Have you ever seen pictures of hillary as a young woman? She actually makes chelsea look good. LOL.

#197 hous bin pharteen:

Communism hasn't tanked! Make no mistake! The left in America is dominated by the Communists now who are probably (I'm guessing here but based on recent back and forth between Iran and Russia and Iran and N.Norea I'm guessing the Communists from both China and Russia have joined up and formed a coalition with the neo-Nazis in the desert to rule the world again. But what do I know? I'm betting Iran wants to be the seat of the Caliphate run on Wahhabist/Nazi rules with the spiritual seat of the religion which they have hijacked remaining in Mecca and Medina. The government will be in Iran in the Caliphate and all teaching will follow and be overseen by Wahhabist Imams throughout the ummah worldwide. Nice! A complete world takeover of a religion by virtue of some backdoor maneuvoering by the government heads with the religious heads. A coalition and a collusion to change the religion's rules to give more power to the imams over the individuals' daily actions and movements through the mosque and the religion he practices.

This is truly perverted. Unbelievable to do something so evil. To threaten and distort another's soul....billions of souls this way for your own evil ambitions...whatever those are which remains to be seen.

A corrupt royal family accustomed to unimaginable luxury has created a Nazi prison in the desert and is exporting it around the world in order to enslave billions more through their religion, thus acquiring their tithing each week and the requisite charitable donations required of each good Muslim, thus acquiring an unending source of funding to live in the style to which they've been accustomed and also to buy ammunitions and war toys with which to fight the Americans in Iraq and send terrorists to flight school to learn to fly planes into buildings to defeat America. Allah Akbah! ....and is further in collusion with Iran which wants to be world headquarters with bombs. Gaaaaaaagggck!

Edward:

So long. Later gator!

Yeah I was busy all day and I got home and it was quiet and I got thinking and the whole thing started to click into place...that if you think back to the relationships and old pictures of the Saudis with the German high command in their uniforms, all looking very grand in the desert, this makes sense. And if you look at how Wahhabism treats people, like slaves, it's exactly the old Nazi playbook all over again. Once I realized that the rest fell into place.

#59 "One nutcase doesn't speak for the entire religion. I have several Muslim friends, and they're not puritannical like that guy".

PURITANICAL? I can think of a lot of words to describe 7th century bigots who have no place in civilised society - but 'puritanical' isnt one of them.

However, this 'religious leader' and those who think like him were outed on national tv this week, with the result that very few Australians are now in doubt regarding the snakes we have been harbouring. Yasin isnt the only one - there are quite a few of these morons in Australia, but they did a very quick retreat when they were challenged.

Talkback radio went off the dial for a couple of days when the treacherous motives of people like Yasin were finally publicised.

Now all Australians know that we are sheltering a nest of poisonous snakes who want us dead. Of course not all Muslims are not like Yasin and co., but so what? These bigots have plenty of followers, but finally the mask has slipped. They didnt have the intelligence or self control to keep their hatred and bigotry to themselves.

you can find the video here:

[Link: sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au...]

#59 canuttistan

One priest/reverend/whatever doesn't speak for every Muslim in the world.

And Hitler didn't speak for every German or Tojo for every Japanese.

Eventually, a man's got to do what a man's got to do.

"Muslims are like water coming out of a pure water spring"

One word; psychosis.

#111 canuckistan
Boy, am I sorry I missed out on this fur-brained jackass.

1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

In other words, a police state. The wording here is similar to the constitution of Illinois- you can have firearms if the State Police allow you to. After all, it's a "reasonable limit".

15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

So, a mentally retarded 9-year-old female can have consensual sex, maybe even marry. And let's not forget the 10-year-old vote.

Canada is a beautiful land with many fine citizens. But it sure needs some tuning up. Turning the moonbats over to Newfies for chumming would be a good start.

Think of this war against the Jihad as "EXTREME Whack-a-Mole!"

#220 Foreign Devil

Think of this war against the Jihad as "EXTREME Whack-a-Mole!"

Oooooh. I like it. (And here I was thinkin' of it as more like a turkey shoot.)

#221 Swamp Woman:

Great! Someone's still there! Right...that came to me in a moment of inspiration...you have to take what they give you. :[

I'm sorry to do this to you Swampy, but I'm off to bed. 'Night and may the forth be with you...or the fifth or whatever...! LOL!

#223 Foreign Devil

I'm sorry to do this to you Swampy, but I'm off to bed. 'Night and may the forth be with you...or the fifth or whatever...! LOL!

Yeah, sure, go on off to your nice warm bed.

/meanwhile I shall sit here with my galloping case of insomnia....

#224 SwampWoman

/meanwhile I shall sit here with my galloping case of insomnia....

And I was in a nice beer-induced sleep until my daughter called looking for parental sympathy (overseas and feeling ill).

#225 American Soldier

And I was in a nice beer-induced sleep until my daughter called looking for parental sympathy (overseas and feeling ill).

I have 4 beers in the fridge....

Wonder if that would help.

Oh, did you dispense fatherly affection and concern and make her owie go away?

227 SwampWoman
Yes, yes, and no (suggested certain OTC meds).

Why don't you wake up Swamp Man and make him give you a relaxing massage?

#228 American Soldier

He needs his beauty sleep. Although that, er, massage do sound good.

229 SwampWoman
Speakin' o' which, I gotta catch a couple more hours here. Later, Swampess.

Hmmmm. Good morning, y'all.

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: The verse says (speaks Arabic). Specifically, this means, if you take that word literally, it means literally beat them lightly, like I would my child. Like that or like that.

Where's St. Morris when you need him?

(patron saint of chivalry, knights and crusaders)

"Halal is meat from a herbivore slaughtered in a humane way -- as Islam requires."
(this is a quote from the news this morning)

"AS ISLAM REQUIRES".....NOT slaughtered in an IN-humane way...such as being beheaded or stoned to death or blown up into itty bitty pieces by homemade bombs like the ones strapped to young men and women, even babies in strollers!

Oi! and we thought Muslims were unkind!

How could anyone embrace an ideology which treats animals humanely, but considers humans as fair-game for the most heinous barbaric treatment?

Perhaps they find the simpler rules found in the Bible (regardless of which translation) too difficult to follow:

"God is Love and he that dwelleth in love, dwelleth in God and God in him."
"Love thy neighbour as thyself."
"Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth."

How are muslim women like onion rings?

They are both at their best when lightly battered...

From the horse's mouth. how many will turn around and ignore what he says? How many will preach the same tired, old, pious platitudes about the importance of racial tolerance, even in the face of an existential threat. If the West doesn't get its act together, it doesn't deserve to live.

#221 Swamp Woman

Oooooh. I like it. (And here I was thinkin' of it as more like a turkey shoot.)

Reminds me of a conversation I had with an Aussie co-worker.

CW: Ever been to a turkey shoot, mate?
ME: Ummm, no.
CW: Alrighty then, this is how it works, I reckon: You gobble and I shoot!

It's rare that I blush.....

Ok ... here's the big question:

If a President (either party) nominates a judge who is Muslim, will they be asked about how their Muslim faith might affect their judgement? Let's say a case reaches a high court in which a man beats his wife or daughter, and he says that is what his religion teaches and that he and his beaten spouse or daughter must be allowed to practice their religion, how would the Muslim Judge rule?

If anyone should ask such a question, would the MSM cry, "foul!"?

OT so coy John McCain has reactivated his political action committee, Straight Talk America...according to a small blurb in [Link: www.washingtonpostexpress.com...]

So all his Bush Derangement Syndromers can re-unite and join his Kerry/Michael Moore fan contingent of defeatists and defenders of islamofascists at GITMO.

Sheikh Khalid Yasin is not an enemy of the Western world but nor is he a friend. For him, Muslims and non-Muslims will be forever divided.

I thought Republicans were dividing the nation?

I've encountered this attitude from time to time in the Christian church as well, but it is generally rejected. In the Muslim world, apparently, there is no concept of what we Christians call "common grace," i.e. the idea that all human beings have intrinsic value, and therefore even non-Christians can reflect the mind of God, because all people are created in God's image.

As another blogger pointed out recently: Theree is no negotiating with these people or trying to reach agreements with them, because so far as they concerned, the opinions of non-believers are stupid and sinful. Anyone who doesn't belong to their religious system is de facto deficient in their ability to make moral distinctions and understand the issues. So what common ground is left?

#100 Newscape

What did you think of the show Tour of Duty?

#13, WarBicycle,

Why do I get the impression that this idiot is trying to provoke us into committing violence against Muslims?

You are well on your way my friend into recognizing what pure, unadulterated Evil is really all about. Evil is indiscriminate. It doesn’t care what it destroys, as long as it destroys that which is good. Everything that Islam is based upon is rooted in evil and the ultimate separation from that which is good. Evil has a “life-force” all it’s own and it is all-consuming. Call it the “Devil” if you want. Maybe it is Allah, the angel Jibreel or Mohammed. Evil cannot create; it can only destroy.

Muslims commit evil and violence upon other Muslims, and those of us who relate to what is good cannot understand how that is justified. How many civilized “thinkers” have expressed that conundrum on our TV sets? “Good” does not destroy that which is good; Evil destroys everything indiscriminately. That is why those who truly endeavor to be good, even if their faiths preach a different dogma, don’t engage in destroying each other. But maybe that’s the clue into the Muslim-on-Muslim, and Muslim-on-Everyone-Else violence.

Because Evil is all-consuming, the followers of Muhammad, and those who would emulate his life-style have been in constant conflict with themselves and the rest of the world since the birth of Islam for more than 14 centuries. Evil is forever provoking. That’s just the nature of Evil. If we succumb, acquiesce, and accommodate the Evil, we may as just as well be promoting it.

The Christian faiths are asked to follow the words of Jesus, who encouraged people to “love their enemies”. Nowhere, however, did any of His teachings encourage his followers to love the enemies of God. So, based on that, if committing violence against Muslims to destroy the promotion of Evil falls into an action based in destroying the enemies of God, that just might be a “good” thing.

Thanks for listening to Grandma’s worthless wisdom, and have a nice day.

#195 foreign devil

You know what I think has happened to Islam? I'm just guessing and maybe Islam always was so bloody before the 1920s when 'Wahhabism' was born...

Islam was invented in the Arab world which has a long history of being incredibly bloody.

The Arabs have been known for attacking innocent people who are vulnerable during travel (this goes back thousands of years.)

Infidels from Europe were attacked, enslaved, and held for ransom for many hundreds of years by the Barbary Pirates who were the Arab city states' form of an "army" or "navy" for a long time. They didn't tend to fight real armies, though - they fought innocent, unarmed civilians who weren't expecting to have to fight while they were traveling (sounds familiar in the 20th and 21st Centuries, doesn't it?)

The Arab world is more the problem than Islam (or one could say that the problem with Islam is that it was invented in the Arab world.)

They had MUCH in common with the Nazis, of course, but I don't think the Nazis taught them anything they didn't already know how to do when it came to being violent. I think the Nazis did teach them some things about propaganda, though.

Individual Arabs can be as nice or not nice as absolutely anyone on the planet.

Each person has the capability to be good or evil.

As a culture, though, the Arab world is horrendous.

Their culture is a throwback to the ancient world where practices like human sacrifice were common.

Islam calmed the Arab world down a bit (so that the Arab world isn't as bad now as it was during their pagan days) - but Islam is a failed religion when it comes to eliminating the violence in their world.

They now use Islam as their justification for this same violence.

If anyone is still reading this thread -- help.

Have been looking for Bio. information on Khalid Yasin since Wed. Since he says he was born in America and was in Vietnam -- wanted to find out WHO he is.

Bio's on net -- do not give much info -- except to say that HE says he was raised in foster homes and joined the military (lied about his age) before he was 18.

The interview he gave seems to me as though English is not his first language -- unless he is faking it.

Wonder if he is faking the other information too.

Can anyone tell me where else to look for factual info on this guy?