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Multiculturalism Gone Horribly Wrong

Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 8:27:42 pm PDT

An interview with the enemy, from Australia’s 60 Minutes: Home grown. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: Our message is to young people, young brothers and sisters — trust is sacred, and how can you put a sacred trust in the hands of a non-Muslim that doesn’t understand what that sanctity is about?

PETER OVERTON: My journey into the world of Islam began here — a suburban town hall in Sydney.

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: I like to talk like one of you.

PETER OVERTON: These are young Muslims and they’re Australian. Most of them were born here. But the message they were hearing was of a world that sounds so alien to so many of us.

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: There’s no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim friend, so a non-Muslim could be your associate but they can’t be a friend. They’re not your friend because they don’t understand your religious principles and they cannot because they don’t understand your faith.

PETER OVERTON: Sheikh Khalid Yasin is not an enemy of the Western world but nor is he a friend. For him, Muslims and non-Muslims will be forever divided.

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: Australians have to wake up and smell the coffee. To what extent do people expect that people assimilate to where it gets to the point where you actually want me to imitate?

PETER OVERTON: Khalid was born in America and was once a patriot. He served in Vietnam, but then converted to Islam. Now he’s a true believer in the Koran, an uncompromising disciple of its strict justice system, travelling the world to spread his message. This is what he believes men should do to wives who disobey.

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: The verse says (speaks Arabic). Specifically, this means, if you take that word literally, it means literally beat them lightly, like I would my child. Like that or like that.

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1 Americain  7/27/05 6:29:01 pm reply quote 0

Multiculturism will be the downfall of Western societies.

2 Americain  7/27/05 6:30:57 pm reply quote 0
SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: There’s no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim friend, so a non-Muslim could be your associate but they can’t be a friend.

Can't we all just get along?

/LLL

3 Ghost of a flea  7/27/05 6:32:14 pm reply quote 0

Good news. I don't want him to assimilate. I want him to take his bigoted bull and leave.

4 Americain  7/27/05 6:32:46 pm reply quote 0
SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: The verse says (speaks Arabic). Specifically, this means, if you take that word literally, it means literally beat them lightly, like I would my child. Like that or like that.

Well, you Jihadists are going to get beaten severely.

5 Bob's Kid  7/27/05 6:32:50 pm reply quote 0

Glad I was born here, and not to anyone Muslim.

Sheesh.

6 Americain  7/27/05 6:34:05 pm reply quote 0

My # 1 post, in haste = Multiculturalism

PIMF

7 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 6:35:25 pm reply quote 0

I have mates in Sydney....... everyone remember this, the Aussies are behind us in Iraq, over eighty of them were murdered in the Bali bombings in 2002. The sentiment in AU is not one of tolerance. The Muslims are tap dancing in a country where the men won't be afraid to put on their boots and kick the shit out of them.....

8 FurryOldGuyJeans  7/27/05 6:35:49 pm reply quote 0

What the loony left do not and never will understand is that for Multiculturism to work requires that all parties be fair and willing to accept people from a different background. But then the L3 are not even tolerant of people born and raised in Western countries that do not believe the same as they do. To expect the atavistic Islamofascists to accept any ideas that are different from their twisted theology should go to Mecca.

9 realwest  7/27/05 6:38:29 pm reply quote 0

#7 Bubble Girl - this figures. I posted something to you on the last thread and bingo! a new thread.
Rats!

10 Juliette  7/27/05 6:38:34 pm reply quote 0

#5 Bob's Kid: This guy was born here (in America) too and is a convert.

11 Americain  7/27/05 6:39:27 pm reply quote 0

#8 FurryOldGuyJeans

You did it too = Multiculturism

Now I don't feel so bad. ;^)

That's a tough one..

12 Northpaw  7/27/05 6:40:28 pm reply quote 0
Now he’s a true believer in the Koran, an uncompromising disciple of its strict justice system, travelling the world to spread his message.

Yah, um, I'm really positive that the Mother Jones/Michael Moore crowd would be all warm and fuzzy with this if just one simple substitution was made.

Now he’s a true believer in the Bible, an uncompromising disciple of its strict justice system, travelling the world to spread his message.
13 WarBicycle  7/27/05 6:40:37 pm reply quote 0

Why do I get the impression that this idiot is trying to provoke us into committing violence against Muslims?

14 realwest  7/27/05 6:41:17 pm reply quote 0

Yeah, there's no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim as a friend. After all, the non-Muslim friend might open his Muslim friends eyes to the ethics and teachings of other societies/religions/cultures and we can't have that, can we?

15 Zack  7/27/05 6:42:25 pm reply quote 0

Sounds like he's joined the Hive Mind.
Another happy Borg. :/

16 karmic_inquisitor  7/27/05 6:44:27 pm reply quote 0

Ah yes - when multi-culturalism becomes "seperate but equal" one gets wife beatings, honor killings and the like.

Some on the left seem to be catching something of a clue - The Guardian had this on Wednesday, where they got on London's Mayor "Red Ken" Livingstone for having a double standard on suicide bombers.

The mayor is not the only one playing with fire. Unfortunately, he is part of a wider left that has, in the laudable effort to make alliances with Muslims, wound up hugging people who are sharply at odds with Britain's progressive tradition.

The sudden realization - that Islamicists may not be progressive.

17 savage_nation[deleted]  7/27/05 6:44:53 pm 0
18 maximum leader  7/27/05 6:45:12 pm reply quote 0

Story # 70234 on hateful Muslims who hold positions of authority. Yawn. Until somebody actually does something about this cancer, I'll remain fatalistic...

19 Ward Cleaver  7/27/05 6:45:42 pm reply quote 0
Specifically, this means, if you take that word literally, it means literally beat them lightly, like I would my child. Like that or like that.Specifically, this means, if you take that word literally, it means literally beat them lightly, like I would my child. Like that or like that.

And if that doesn't work, you stone them, or slit their throats, or set them or fire. Like that or like that.

20 religion of bacon  7/27/05 6:45:55 pm reply quote 0

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: The verse says (speaks Arabic). Specifically, this means, if you take that word literally, it means literally beat them lightly, like I would my child.

Good grief, not "beat them lightly" again? More info here. And if you want to see another one of those Wikipedia free-for-alls, they debate "beat them lightly" here.

I think the Arabic is correctly translated as "whack the crap out of them delicately."

21 Micky D  7/27/05 6:47:17 pm reply quote 0

Well, we now have CAFTA, along with NAFTA.

As a small business owner, I'm not exactly clicking my heels with joy right now.

At least I know my Congress Critter voted no on this turkey.

22 CC Señor  7/27/05 6:48:21 pm reply quote 0
Khalid was born in America and was once a patriot. He served in Vietnam, but then converted to Islam.

So, maybe it's all post traumatic stress disorder and what he really needs to do is get in touch with the VA.

23 Dublin(CA)Dude  7/27/05 6:48:51 pm reply quote 0

Payback is a bitch, remember that ROP.

24 Ward Cleaver  7/27/05 6:49:54 pm reply quote 0

#16 karmic_inquisitor

The sudden realization - that Islamicists may not be progressive.

Shudder!

25 PDM  7/27/05 6:50:55 pm reply quote 0
PETER OVERTON: Sheikh Khalid Yasin is not an enemy of the Western world but nor is he a friend.

Huh?

26 freedomplow  7/27/05 6:51:18 pm reply quote 0

I need to see the video. Who's gonna do the work?

27 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 6:53:19 pm reply quote 0

25 PDM

:D

28 gymnast  7/27/05 6:53:31 pm reply quote 0

Sheik Khalid Yassin is nucking futz and seems to be a bit paranoid. The 64 body question is whether or not he advances to the level of Islamodementia where he is a full fledged sociopathic killer.

29 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 6:54:04 pm reply quote 0

9 realwest

Was it about our military?

30 transient  7/27/05 6:54:26 pm reply quote 0

This might be a good moment for Muslims to start reading about the Holocaust-- if only to learn what Europeans are capable of when they get in a mood.

As major Holocaust deniers it would be poetic justice if their willful ignorance bit them in the a$$.

I wish that future on no one--(if the Europeans get in "that mood" again it won't be only violent Muslims who suffer) --but they would benefit from a dispassionate study of history.

Few of them seem capable of that, though.

31 religion of bacon  7/27/05 6:54:52 pm reply quote 0

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: If you prefer the name of somebody on your clothes other than the name of the Muslims, if you prefer the clothing of the Kaffers other than the clothing of the Muslims, most of the names that's on most of those clothing is faggots, homosexuals and lesbians. God is very straightforward about this — not we Muslims, not subjective, the Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death. We don't make any excuses about that, it's not our law — it's the Koran.

Ricky Martin, meet Sheikh Yasin!

32 elBarto  7/27/05 6:55:09 pm reply quote 0

Does anyone else here feel like we are banging our heads against a wall? Its the same crap every day. The bloggers on the right can pull up all this information, verbatim quotes from these people showing they do not want multiculturalism. They want western civilization gone. They want sharia instead of secualr legal system.
I show these article to freinds on the left and they shrug and say its a minority, its not the mainstream..blah blah blah. The problem is that even if it is a minority, it only took 19 lunatics to kill 3000 on 9-11, it only to 4 to kill 80 in London. It only take one crazed martyr to kill alot of inocent people.
We will never stop this evil if the majority in the west do not realize that the "minority" of islam wants them dead and are willing to die if it means killing the infidel.

33 FurryOldGuyJeans  7/27/05 6:55:34 pm reply quote 0
#11 Americain

#8 FurryOldGuyJeans

You did it too = Multiculturism

Now I don't feel so bad. ;^)

That's a tough one..

I spelt it correctly; everyone else is wrong. :D

34 realwest  7/27/05 6:59:02 pm reply quote 0

#29 Bubble Girl - yes and I just saw your post in reply over there. And as usual, you're spot on!

35 Jack Burton  7/27/05 6:59:28 pm reply quote 0

This is why whenver I meet someone new, I suggest we go to the local barbeque place for a nice pulled pork sandwhich and about 10 beers.

Helps sort out the riff raff.

36 religion of bacon  7/27/05 7:00:41 pm reply quote 0

#30 transient

IMHO that was a very irresponsible remark, disclaimers or not.

37 karmic_inquisitor  7/27/05 7:01:51 pm reply quote 0

Looks like Hooper over at CAIR got a press release together:

CAIR: U.S. Muslim Religious Council to Issue Fatwa Against Terror

WASHINGTON, July 27 /PRNewswire/ -- On Thursday, July 28, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) will hold a news conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., to release a fatwa (Islamic religious ruling) against terrorism and extremism. The fatwa is being issued by the Fiqh Council of North America (FCNA) and endorsed by major U.S. Muslim groups.

Representatives of the Fiqh Council, an association of Islamic legal scholars that interprets Muslim religious law, and leaders of several leading American Muslim organizations will take part in the news conference. (The term "fiqh" refers to Islamic jurisprudence.)

WHAT: Release of Fatwa Against Terror and Extremism/Release of CAIR Radio
Anti-Terror PSA

WHEN: Thursday, July 28, 10:30 a.m.

WHERE: National Press Club (13th Floor), Murrow Room, 529 14th Street NW,
Washington, D.C.

CONTACT: Ibrahim Hooper, 202-488-8787 or 202-744-7726, E-Mail: ihooper@cair-net.org

I'm sending a simple email to Hooper - The fatwa better be unequivocal. Cite that suicide bombings against Israeli civilians is terror too.

By the way, Hooper also produced a Public Service Announcement - [Link: www.cair-net.org...]

38 PDM  7/27/05 7:02:38 pm reply quote 0

#27 Bubble Girl,

:D

LOL. He's not an enemy, and he's not a friend. He's just sort of 'there' doing his own thing (beating his wife... or whatever turns him on).

39 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  7/27/05 7:03:05 pm reply quote 0
40 Ringo the Gringo  7/27/05 7:03:33 pm reply quote 0
I like to talk like one of you.

WTF?

41 Bob's Kid  7/27/05 7:03:40 pm reply quote 0
#5 Bob's Kid: This guy was born here (in America) too and is a convert

Well I'm glad I'm not stupid, then.

42 FurryOldGuyJeans  7/27/05 7:04:38 pm reply quote 0

Not trying to be unfair to Charles, but when has Multiculturalism ever NOT gone wrong?

43 NY Nana  7/27/05 7:04:39 pm reply quote 0

#39 transient

They are already deniers of the Shoah..the 'PM' of squatter-occupied Israeli land wrote his thesis re there having been no such thing..and arafart's uncle, the not so grand muhti of Jerusalem was a collaborator with h*****. They will never admit it happened, never.

Here is an excellent article from The Times(UK), re today's followers of the cult: Beards and scarves aren't Muslim. They're simply adverts for al-Qaeda

LAST SUNDAY, hours after the terrorist attacks in Sharm el-Sheikh, a few dozen men and women gathered in front of the local town hall to vent their anger against those who had transformed the resort into a scene of death and desolation.
With cries of “No to murderers”, they invited others to join. At first many hesitated — after all, Egypt has sweated under a state of emergency for 25 years. And the ordinary citizen has little incentive to provoke either the Government or the terrorists. Nevertheless, in almost all parts of Egypt people followed the example of Sharm el-Sheikh with symbolic funerals for the 90 or so victims of the tragedy.



Remarkably, in almost all demonstrations the participants also remembered and prayed for the victims of the suicide attacks in London. For the first time crowds of Muslims were condemning terrorism without making a distinction between the victims on the basis of their faith. So, is this the beginning of the long-awaited Muslim awakening to a dark force that threatens civilised world everywhere in the name of Islam?

Sadly, the answer cannot be better than: perhaps, perhaps not. The 7/7 attacks in London inspired some sympathetic comment throughout the Muslim countries. But even then many commentators could not resist taking a swipe at Britain for having “hosted Islamist terrorists” for years. A number of self-styled clerics, including 58 Pakistanis, have issued fatwas (opinions) that, on the surface, look like a rejection of terrorism. A closer look, however, shows that they still have a long way to go before they could be taken seriously.

Some self-styled clerics, including many in the British Muslim community, have used semantic trickery to hedge their bets. They condemn the attacks in Sharm el-Sheikh but when it comes to the attacks in London, all they are prepared to say is that they “do not condone” them. More disturbingly, their statements include the usual litany of Muslim woes about Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan, and the assertion that “our youths” are right to be angry. The more they speak the more unspeakable they become.

In some cases sophistry is at play. For example, Yusuf al-Qaradawi, an Egyptian televangelist based in Qatar, has issued a fatwa pronouncing as “illicit” the murder of people who have “temporary or permanent accords” with an individual Muslim or an Islamic state; such as foreigners invited to work in a Muslim country. As for Muhammad Khatami, Iran’s outgoing President, it is “illicit” to murder “innocents”. The trouble, however, is that he does not define who is innocent and who is not.

Such people use ambiguities because a blanket condemnation of terrorism would extend to attacks on Israelis and Americans, whom they do not regard as “innocent civilians”.

But Muslims everywhere need to get to grips with a phenomenon that threatens all Muslim countries and Islamic communities in the West. This requires Muslim opinion-makers to take a number of steps.

The first is to discard the notion that anyone who is not a Muslim is an “infidel” and thus not a proper human being. Next, it is important to reject the belief that, since the goal of converting mankind to Islam is a noble one, any means to do so are justified. Muslims should accept diversity and compete in the global market place of faiths through normal channels, rather than ghazvas (raids) against “infidel” centres......

see article

44 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 7:05:21 pm reply quote 0
SHEIKH KHALID YASIN :...most of the names that's on most of those clothing is faggots, homosexuals and lesbians. God is very straightforward about this — not we Muslims, not subjective, the Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death. We don't make any excuses about that, it's not our law — it's the Koran.

Celibrate diversity, LLLs.

45 johnathanrgalt  7/27/05 7:05:55 pm reply quote 0

Once the women are beaten into submission, it is not allowed to beat them anymore:

Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html
46 RightLogic  7/27/05 7:06:31 pm reply quote 0

When your Muslim misbehaves, you must beat him lightly. Now where did I put that tire iron?

47 really grumpy big dog johnson  7/27/05 7:08:34 pm reply quote 0

We just keep on getting these gems of ilumination over and over again, with the westerm press treating these animals as though they are just ill-informed westerners, rather than bloody murderers who won't hesitate to exact their particular brand of justice of the scimitar.

Who are we playing games with here? Do you really think you can reform people like this sonofabitch Sheik Yasin?

If you are that naive you deserve everthing that you are going to get if your concept of appeasement prevails. Slavery, loss of legal government, children raped and tortured, wives beaten and killed and the law of the beast.

Great, welcome to the world that you dream of, multi-pieces-of-garbage. This is your legacy, YOUR Sheik. Love him, he embraces your ideals until you start your 9-to-9 shifts in the salt mines. But don't worry, the Arabic ACLU and Arabic Teamsters will limit minor offenses like not praying toward Mecca to maybe 25 lashes with a flog.

Oh peace is nigh. Lunatics never change, appeasers hone their skills, denying denizens of the lost insist that we the majority are wrong, that Islam is the religion of wonder and eternal piece.

How ignorant can people possibly be? I live in a society full of morons who believe that by following the moon signs we can find balance in our lives, that Sting is a prophet, that Madonna represents the embodiment of the holy woman in the modern idiom.

Our societies are full of crap, and we are so nice we actually let the shitstains vote in our elections. They don't belong to us, they don't belong to our society. They belong to that special place where our Sheik resides, the land of lunacy and honey, or suicide bombers and seventy-two virgins, of lightly beating your children while not hesitating to dismember the head of an infidel to represent your faith.

All Muslims who are unwilling to deny the horrific message of the Islamists need to face their exact same fate: one of extermination, and hopefully within my lifetime.

We have an Aussie interviewer using the 3rd man technique to put on a circus with a monster, but at least as stupid as the Aussie is, he can scarcely win the sharpest knife award when we get statements like this from the Devil's disciple of Islam:

SHEIKH KHALID YASIN: Australians have to wake up and smell the coffee. To what extent do people expect that people assimilate to where it gets to the point where you actually want me to imitate?

Yeah Sheikh, screw you and the stinking camel your rode in on. Tar and feathers went out of style in the early 20th century, but we might have to revive that particular celebration of lack of diversity, just in your honor.

You are a goddamn abomination of a human being. If you die, I won't even notice; but I'll sure as hell know if you are still hanging around.

Some people want milk and cookies, I want you off my planet by whatever means are necessary.

Can you understand the philosophy of my post?

48 Beagle  7/27/05 7:09:49 pm reply quote 0
I can get cannabis with my coffee


-- Peter Overton

I'm glad he made it around to the other interviews.

49 imploder  7/27/05 7:10:36 pm reply quote 0

How is it that the LLL loves these misogynists?


Did I miss something somewhere?

So it is OK to whup the shit out of your wife, and a lunatic islamic caliphate is the ultimate goal, and the LLL still lines up with these guys?

And then they call conservatives homophobes and bigots?

Gee, I wonder what the LLL elite will do when some mutawa islamic police whips them across the eyeglasses with a dried bull-dick...hmmm, maybe Amerikkka wasn't so bad after all, huh?

50 Americain  7/27/05 7:10:56 pm reply quote 0

#33 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hmmm, maybe you're right. :^D

51 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 7:11:05 pm reply quote 0
And we believe we have more rights than you because we choose Australia to be our country and you didn't. So don't come to me now because you are the majority or you are in the power now to say to me, "Well, this is only my way or the highway". I won't accept that.

He's kidding, right?

52 Murder  7/27/05 7:11:10 pm reply quote 0

Wait, is it like this, or more like this? I want to make sure I understand lightly beating thing right.

Reminds me of that old torch song "Killing Me Softly".

53 savage_nation[deleted]  7/27/05 7:12:20 pm 0
54 The Powers That Be  7/27/05 7:12:48 pm reply quote 0

Only "beat them lightly?" This guy is a moderate.

55 really grumpy big dog johnson  7/27/05 7:12:59 pm reply quote 0

#37 Karrmi

Hooper is the king of breath talkers. You won't get anything other than the usual "but" circus from him.

56 Uncle BigBad  7/27/05 7:15:35 pm reply quote 0

OT it's 11:00 pm CST Moonbats Brent Scowcroft and Sandy (Socks) Berger are on Charlie Rose (PBS)

I can't stand to watch it. I don't have the stomach. If some strong-stomach Lizardoid out there can watch it, please give us a report.

57 imploder  7/27/05 7:16:32 pm reply quote 0

#56

Sorry, dog, can't go there.

Swore off PBS a long time ago.

58 Edward  7/27/05 7:16:57 pm reply quote 0

1. we believe we have more rights than you.

2. Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death. We don't make any excuses about that, it's not our law — it's the Koran.

Could anything be clearer? To anyone but a moonbat?

59 canuckistan  7/27/05 7:17:24 pm reply quote 0

One nutcase doesn't speak for the entire religion. I have several Muslim friends, and they're not puritannical like that guy.

It's comparable to saying that Catholics never use birth control, just because the Pope is against it.

One priest/reverend/whatever doesn't speak for every Muslim in the world.

60 transient  7/27/05 7:17:28 pm reply quote 0

#36 religion/ bacon

On the contrary. Muslims think they are going to take control of Europe. Maybe they will, maybe not. But while they are getting all zealous about their caliphate, they should give a moment or two to the thought that blowback is a bitch, people defend their home turf quite strongly, and there is recent precedent in Europe for random and horrific violence, even without cause.

I have never advocated the killing of innocent people, nor random/ mass murder of Muslims just because they are Muslims, even those who sympathize with the terrorists. Sympathy with the Devil, however heinous, is not a capital offense.

61 gymnast  7/27/05 7:17:39 pm reply quote 0

I understand that a seat has been reserved for Hooper at the next Boomershoot.He sould get a real bang out of it.

62 seadog  7/27/05 7:19:01 pm reply quote 0

Oh, hell....

Time for the waders. It's gonna get deep real fast.

63 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  7/27/05 7:19:14 pm reply quote 0

#49 imploder
re: misogynists

I posted this Tuesday, about an LLL x 3 event I went to recently. Gives you an idea of the flaming narcissism of the LLL feminists.

--I went to an event at the Players' Club in NYC recently, and an LLL director was speaking. She was intelligent, is evidently talented, has won a raft of awards as a playwright and director. All on Leftist political plays, natch.

At the end of her speech, she said a lot of new playwrights are "fired up" by "what's happening to our country, since Bush was elected," and are writing more, and more passionate, political plays. I wondered WHAT she's talking about. These people live in a parallel universe, where the Evil Bushlord has actually done something that directly affects their daily existence. She looked pretty sleek and prosperous to me. No one's stopping her from running her mouth.

But the bit that killed me was the last. She brought the ME Conflict (TM): "I know you're going to hiss at his name, but Bernard Lewis" (pause for effect) "said you can gauge a civilization by the state of its women. We all know there are things going on in some parts of the world" (not specified), "and women are dealing with mutilation, lack of civil rights, and so forth.

"BUT--we in the West can't become complacent. After all, it was just three years ago that a woman finally won a Tony award for directing, and only three women have won [this or that], and there are still just 3% women directors," etc.

How can being stoned to death for showing your ankles compete with these outrages? Or murdered for being raped?

Yeah, our civilization ain't perfect. But let me say here and now, we have the Best Men on the Planet. Hugs and kisses to you all.

xoxoxo

64 Austin Conservative  7/27/05 7:19:39 pm reply quote 0

#10 Juliette

This guy was born here (in America) too and is a convert.

Which probably means he's been in prison.

65 religion of bacon  7/27/05 7:20:50 pm reply quote 0

Don't know if this was ever posted on LGF before (and I'm too lazy to do a search):

http://www.abc.net.au/sundaynights/stories/s943004 .htm

John Cleary: Could you have a secular Islamic state, like Turkey is trying to be over the years?

Khalid Yasin: No, it doesn’t work. These are experiments that have been tried but they haven’t worked. Now of course you can have it, but you’ll see that after a certain amount of time it disintegrates, it cannot work.

John Cleary: So ultimately the Sharia should become the law of the land?

Khalid Yasin: Exactly. It has to be.

[...]

Khalid Yasin: Ibn Kahldouhn, a well-known scholar of social history, the history of societies, he said that invariably, history tells us that governmental rule is a matter of competition. So governments inevitably, having their cultures and their ideas, are going to conflict with others in regards even for the acquisition of territories. And it is that competition and what powers they possess, that are going to determine who’s going to acquire, who’s going to inhabit, what areas. This is not your determination or mine, it’s the competition. At this point, Western civilisation has developed the institutions, the material power to acquire, to possess, to inhabit and to enforce sometimes, to impose. They don’t make any excuses about that, they do. And so when the Muslims are able to do so, they will.

66 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  7/27/05 7:20:55 pm reply quote 0

Ahh, the Canadian Toolhead is here to compare personal decisions about birth control with MURDERING homosexuals.

Brilliant!

67 FurryOldGuyJeans  7/27/05 7:21:09 pm reply quote 0

It is time for us to tell the moonbat brigade members to sit down, shut up, and let the adults handle the situation. They sure have no clue what is waiting for us just around the corner.

Is it ok to send the L3 and MSM to bed without their supper yet?

68 karmic_inquisitor  7/27/05 7:22:25 pm reply quote 0

#55 really grumpy big dog johnson -

I am not holding out any hope for a meaningful fatwa. He and the rest of them will be going for the gold in Team Semantic Gymnastics.

69 really grumpy big dog johnson  7/27/05 7:22:30 pm reply quote 0

#59 Canofstan

So I guess all your moderate Muslim buddies are lining up for the next public mass demonstration of outrage against the explosion of little children's bodies, right?

Fucking asshole. Why do you bother returning here when you are so full of how right you are, there isn't a shim slim enough to separate you from the headslicers?

70 RightLogic  7/27/05 7:23:41 pm reply quote 0

Hey Frog (canukistan) is back! Bonjour débile

71 transient  7/27/05 7:24:41 pm reply quote 0

I will only add that if Europe decides to repeat the past in light of the threat of Islam, Muslims will not be the only ones affected. Mobs running through the streets with pikes, guillotines, brownshirts and Nazi flags tend not to be very selective. It's something everyone should worry about.

72 religion of bacon  7/27/05 7:25:59 pm reply quote 0

#60 transient

All I'm saying is that comments like that are easily cherry-picked by people who would like to make LGF look bad. Don't get me wrong, I've strayed close to that line myself...

73 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 7:26:30 pm reply quote 0

38 PDM

He's not an enemy, and he's not a friend. He's just sort of 'there' doing his own thing (beating his wife... or whatever turns him on).

Wow, you struck right at the heart of the matter... "whatever turns him on."

That seems to be the philosophy. Unfortunately beating women seems to be a turn on. Along with other things.

74 Ward Cleaver  7/27/05 7:27:25 pm reply quote 0

#59 canuckistan

One nutcase doesn't speak for the entire religion. I have several Muslim friends, and they're not puritannical like that guy.

Puritanical? Oh, that's a good one, especially when they're sawing your head off. Your friends? They're all apostates, and marked for death under the koran.

It's comparable to saying that Catholics never use birth control, just because the Pope is against it.

The Church doesn't go around chopping people's heads off for committing sin.


One priest/reverend/whatever doesn't speak for every Muslim in the world.

No, they're just the ones brainwashing people into strapping on explosive vests. No worries, mate.

Wake the fuck up.

75 gymnast  7/27/05 7:27:30 pm reply quote 0

#59, you are also hereby invited to come on down to Idaho for the Boomershoot. You can sit right next to Ibrahim Hooper so as to get a prime view of the festivities.

76 religion of bacon  7/27/05 7:27:39 pm reply quote 0

Where's Red Green and a roll of duct tape when you need 'em?

77 freedomsound  7/27/05 7:29:08 pm reply quote 0

#32 elBarto

Does anyone else here feel like we are banging our heads against a wall?

Every freakin' day. Eventually, something's gotta give, and it won't be pretty.

78 Ringo the Gringo  7/27/05 7:29:13 pm reply quote 0
"Muslims are like water coming out of a pure water spring and that all non-Muslims were like water coming out of a suburban sewer and they called on all Muslims not to assimilate into Australian society, because if a drop of suburban sewer falls into the pure water spring, it will pollute the water."

And they call LGF racist?

79 karmic_inquisitor  7/27/05 7:29:31 pm reply quote 0

#71 transient

"Mobs running through the streets with pikes, guillotines, brownshirts and Nazi flags ...

I worry about that. You every try to run through the streets carrying a guillotine? You can throw your back out doing that!

That is why jihadhis carry dull, rusty knives for their beheading needs. No need to worry about them, though. The brownshirted white guys with their guillotines are a much bigger threat, huh?

80 Ward Cleaver  7/27/05 7:30:18 pm reply quote 0

#76 religion of bacon

And Harold!

/hey uncle red!

81 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 7:32:17 pm reply quote 0

Look, here we have our own prime example... Canukistan is right about us saying all Muslims are like this bigoted Muslim in Sydney, that we should not judge all Muslims as being like this guy.

And he is right. Because I cannot judge all Canadians as being just like Canukistan. That would be horrible, just horrible if I did.

Besides, where's Cam?

82 Uncle BigBad  7/27/05 7:34:03 pm reply quote 0

OT We're gonna need an open thread here pretty soon.

CAFTA just passed the House!

11:31 pm CST

83 Geepers  7/27/05 7:35:06 pm reply quote 0

canuckistan says:

It's comparable to saying that Catholics never use birth control, just because the Pope is against it.

No one can possibly be this stupid.

84 jwm  7/27/05 7:36:38 pm reply quote 0

from canuckisturd's profile:

Rumors of me having a 12 to 13 inch schlong are in fact true.

So watch out folks! You're dealing with a bad little boy who's very proud of his weenie. And you know how dangerous that can be.

JWM

85 Ward Cleaver  7/27/05 7:37:28 pm reply quote 0

Just watched a video on the FNC website, with Mahdi Bray telling some gullible reporter how the muslim American Society Freedom Foundation is going to keep young muslims away from extremism.

Yeah right.

TO watch it, go to the FoxNews website, and scroll down to "Fighting Terror".

86 RightLogic  7/27/05 7:37:59 pm reply quote 0

Canukistan is trying to apply the illogical principle of "moral equivalency" to his warped sence of logic. Kind of analogous to saying a cube is a sphere with a bunch of sharp edges.

87 transient  7/27/05 7:38:20 pm reply quote 0

#79 karmic--

I read you! I was being metaphorical about the guillotine...don't err, cut my head off...!

#72 religion

I don't think any of my comments have yet been cherry picked. Should I consider it an honor? Have it framed? Do I need to call a caterer?

88 religion of bacon  7/27/05 7:38:29 pm reply quote 0

Khalid Yasin: Our Prophet, peace and blessing upon him, he didn’t incline us towards music. It tends to make the human being a little less responsible, less regulated, and then it sets a platform that we can see has manifested itself in Western society in particular. Music didn’t start out in the Western societies as it is today, having now been today almost sort of the breeding ground for all the vices that have torn the society apart. We don’t say that, that this is where everyone in music or art is headed, but it’s definitely the breeding ground.

He almost sounds like an Islamic Central Scrutinizer...

As you can see...girls, music, disease, heartbreak...they all go together...
- FZ

89 freedomplow  7/27/05 7:39:37 pm reply quote 0

I posted this on the wrong thread and I'm going to post it again. Why? Because I feel like it.

The free world is in one of our biggest struggles. We are fighting the war on terror. You know head-choppers.

The LLL is fighting what? As far as I can tell they are in the battle of... "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Are you starting to realize what you have become LLL?

You thought the last election was hard to deal with. The next hundred are really going to piss you off.

90 religion of bacon  7/27/05 7:41:28 pm reply quote 0

#87 transient

I don't think any of my comments have yet been cherry picked.

Me neither (as far as I know), and Allah knows I've called them goatf***ers and worse...

91 Beagle  7/27/05 7:42:28 pm reply quote 0

#8 Geepers

No one can possibly be this stupid.


Canuckistan is breaking new ground in stupidity tonight. The ham-fisted moral equivalence stumble over to the Pope was sad to watch. Canuckistan can't explain the universe around him with his worldview, but the world keeps moving along.

"Why can't the CBC explain what's happening?" -- the cry of canuckistan

92 Carl in Jerusalem  7/27/05 7:42:32 pm reply quote 0

OT -

Missing Bill Clinton

It doesn't matter what party you are this is absolutely hilarious. Just
watched a show on Canadian TV. There was a black comedian who said he
misses Bill Clinton.

"Yep, that's right - I miss Bill Clinton!
He was the closest thing we ever got to having a black man as President.

Number 1- He played the sax.
Number 2- He smoked weed.
Number 3 -He had his way with ugly white women.

Even now? Look at him... his wife works, and he don't!

And, he gets a check from the government every month.

Manufacturers announced today that they will be stocking America's
shelves
this week with "Clinton Soup," in honor of one of the nations' most
distinguished men. It consists primarily of a weenie in hot water.

Chrysler Corporation is adding a new car to its line to honor Bill
Clinton.

The Dodge Drafter will be built in Canada.

When asked what he thought about foreign affairs, Clinton replied, I
don't know, I never had one."

American Indians nicknamed Bill Clinton "Walking Eagle" because he is
so full of crap he can't fly.

Clinton lacked only three things to become one of America's finest
leaders: integrity, vision, wisdom.

Clinton was doing the work of three men: Larry, Curly and Moe.

The Clinton revised judicial oath: "I solemnly swear to tell the truth as
I
know it, the whole truth as I believe it to be, and nothing but what I
think
you need to know."

93 freedomplow  7/27/05 7:43:12 pm reply quote 0

I didn't pimf on purpose.

pimf only when I care.

94 jwm  7/27/05 7:43:44 pm reply quote 0

Islam is a poison seed that grows a poisonous vine that bears poisonous fruit. There is no productive use to which it can be put. No benefit to allowing it in the garden.
JWM

95 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 7:44:30 pm reply quote 0

#60 transient

they should give a moment or two to the thought that blowback is a bitch, people defend their home turf quite strongly, and there is recent precedent in Europe for random and horrific violence, even without cause.

That's what I was thinking. I'll bet the talk on the streets of Belgrade is something like "I told you so".

96 RightLogic  7/27/05 7:45:38 pm reply quote 0

#94 - JWM
Come on, tell us how you really feel! You're among friends (except for the occasional troll).

97 SwampWoman  7/27/05 7:45:57 pm reply quote 0

#83 Geepers

No one can possibly be this stupid.

We keep taking turns saying that. Are you convinced yet?

98 FurryOldGuyJeans  7/27/05 7:46:07 pm reply quote 0

How is Canuckistan going to react when Islamic law is the law of the land and revokes Canadian institutional health care (and all the other socialist gimme's)? Maybe he might change his tune he is playing on that rusty and dented instrument he keeps blowing on to regurgitate his socialist memes.

99 really grumpy big dog johnson  7/27/05 7:46:37 pm reply quote 0

Canofstan is confused tonight. Confusion of 12-13 cm for inches is understandible when you live in a society that thinks that anonymity is a good thing.

100 newscaper  7/27/05 7:46:45 pm reply quote 0

OT -- I realized I've seen
FX's "Over There" before...

...in every negative cliche-filled Vietnam film between The Green Berets and We Were Soldiers.

Look past the modern slick music video production values and its there (FWIW I missed the first few minutes):

-The overeducated/sensitive soldier to provide soul-searching commentary.

-The tough NCO who may be wound too tight.

-The apparently incompetent Lt. hated by the troops who is only interested in looking good to his chain of command instead of looking after them.

-Most of the grunts are victims who were suckered into the Army -- or joined purely out of desperation.

-The one kid who is proud of what he is doing is portrayed as naive country white kid and even borderline simple.

- Token angry young black man -- smoking a joint on duty for some nice Platoon-esque Nam nostalgia.

- Nobody in sight who actually seems to have any belief in what they are doing.

- Apparently crappy training.

Oh and the choice of an old Huey for the medevac chopper was pathetic. Apparently the writers can't see past their hardon for some old negative 'Nam nostalgia.

I'm sure their one disappointment was that there is no draft to play up emotions.

About the only Nam stereotype-defying moment was the "what do you mean 'we'", "nigga or fool" speech by the black soldier Angel when he rejected the other guy's appeal for solidarity between brothers against The Man.

PS - FWIW the portrayal of the female soldiers under fire was not very flattering and refreshingly un-PC.

101 canuckistan  7/27/05 7:47:34 pm reply quote 0

91 beagle
"Why can't the CBC explain what's happening?" -- the cry of canuckistan

CBC actually does a good job of telling it like it is, which usually causes everyone around here to start screaming bloody murder.

102 SwampWoman  7/27/05 7:47:52 pm reply quote 0

#82 Uncle

CAFTA just passed the House!

I'm in shock, here.

103 Bubble Girl  7/27/05 7:48:05 pm reply quote 0

100 Newscaper

-The apparently incompetent Lt. hated by the troops who is only interested in looking good to his chain of command instead of looking after them

Yikes... I think I knew one of them!

104 J.D.  7/27/05 7:48:53 pm reply quote 0

Carl in Jerusalem
That's great! Can you remember his name?

105 Rayra  7/27/05 7:48:54 pm reply quote 0

It's like saying 'Beetlejuice'.

Canuckistan
Canuckistan
Canuckistan

106 Earth2moonbat  7/27/05 7:48:57 pm reply quote 0

#92 Carl in Jerusalem

Batta boom (tshhhhh).

107 jwm  7/27/05 7:49:16 pm reply quote 0

#96Rightlogic:
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't soft pedal my criticism.

I'm not very fond of islam.

How's that? ;)
JWM

108 imploder  7/27/05 7:49:32 pm reply quote 0

John Cleary: So ultimately the Sharia should become the law of the land?

Khalid Yasin: Exactly. It has to be.

There's your answer. I think it is pretty freakin' clear.

I think it is why the royal houses of Europa beat back the religion of hate when the gettin' was good.

Ferdinand and Isabela, they had their (Catholic) convictions. Boot the muslims out of Grenada and Andalucia and make the mosques into churches.

Folks, this fight is not new. It has been going on since, oh, let's see here, about 600 AD?

109 Carl in Jerusalem  7/27/05 7:50:34 pm reply quote 0

# 104 J.D.

Sorry, but no. I got it from someone else.

*******

For those who are wondering, here is why