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Where Are All the Protesters?

Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 3:06:47 pm PDT

A great post from Rick Moran, asking a very pertinent question: if Cindy Sheehan really is the catalyst for a newly energized “anti-war” movement that’s sweeping the nation, then where are all the protesters?

It took a little digging, but I was able to discover that there are less than 200 people camping out with Mother Sheehan in Crawford with perhaps another 1,500 people in and around the town on any given day. While the number of campers is kept low due to space limitations, that 1,500 number appears to be pretty solid. And not all of those people are there for the protest. Many are connected with the so-called “Crawford Peace House” whose anti-semitic activities have been well documented elsewhere.

The other night, folk singer and legendary anti-war activist Joan Baez drew around 200 people to a free concert near the camp site. Also, this blogger took the trouble to add up names from three Guest Books which had been placed around Camp Casey and discovered 750 signatures – not from one day but from more than 2 weeks of protests.

It’s like this “mass movement” exists only on a Hollywood sound stage. When the cameras are turned off, it disappears like smoke from a fog machine wafting up into the rafters. It’s bogus. It’s a lie. It’s one gigantic photo-op staged for the benefit of the press whose seeming indifference to some of the truly kooky things Sheehan has said (not to mention the nauseating anti-semitic rants of Mother Sheehan and her supporters) is almost beyond comprehension.

Cindy Sheehan is not Rosa Parks. She’s Carrie Underwood, the completely made for TV “star” that Fox created out of whole cloth on their show American Idol. Cindy Sheehan has been manufactured. Piece by counterfeit piece, the legend of Mother Sheehan has been built from scratch. What started out as some left wing nut of a mother and her genuine grief at the loss of her son being shamelessly used by the hard, anti-war left to raise their pitiful profile has now morphed into a media event complete with PR flaks, political advisers, and media gurus who have turned her Quixote like protest into the signature image of a movement with nothing and nobody behind it.

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1 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:08:12pm

In the geriatric ward.....

2 mbruce  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:09:25pm

The MSM and Hollywood create a little fantasy,and I don't think that the American people are buying into it.

3 Bob's Kid  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:10:21pm

Yeah, but you think the MSM is going to let this be known?

Heck no.

4 Apu Pibat  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:13:08pm

This "mass movement" exists only on the Tv news and the newspapers.

They just take a picture of the five or six protestors that show up, and then crop it so the "crowd" looks much bigger.

5 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:13:22pm

The funniest part of this whole facade is that not only is it staged, the Sheehan crowd is dumb enough to allow their staging the saga to be filmed by those on the other side.

There is Dummy Sheehan kneeling at a cross with a pair of boots in her hand with a set of lights above her head by some doper stagehand.

This is supposed to be touching?

I laughed outloud...man, this is Bernie's weekend vacation!

6 Macker  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:13:25pm

I'm surprised one of the networks hasn't picked this up and turned it into a reality series....

7 Bubble Girl  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:14:09pm
The other night, folk singer and legendary anti-war activist Joan Baez drew around 200 people to a free concert near the camp site. Also, this blogger took the trouble to add up names from three Guest Books which had been placed around Camp Casey and discovered 750 signatures – not from one day but from more than 2 weeks of protests.

The truth shall set us free...

8 ejp0805  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:15:45pm

Yeah, and they only grudgingly mentioned that the Move America Forward crowd had organized something like 3,000 counter-protesters (or so I heard). This story is going to backfire big time, if it hasn't already. The Appeasement Mom has done nothing but galvanize the Silent Majority.

9 Athos  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:16:50pm

More smoke and mirrors coming to us, thanks to the bias in the MSM.

We get Casey Sheehan's mother, but not Sally Goodrich

We get Eleanor Clift calling the US Armed Forces 'mercenaries' and nothing on the bravery and dedication captured by Michael Yon

Given the fact that the MSM is 90% against the President and the War on Terror, one would never know the facts presented here - that those who are advocating and marching in support of the terrorists, calling for the defeat of America, and abandoning 50 million in the same manner that millions in South Vietnam and Cambodia were abandoned in 1975, are in such a minority of hated, frustration, and bigotry, that except for their PR flacks, we would accept and know them for the irrelevant extremists that they are.

10 rokbassist  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:17:54pm

So how long do we have to wait for this whole thing to not only blow up, but for the MSM to admit that there's not much to it? 10 minutes? Forever?

11 blackbeard  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:22:23pm

don't worry the hurricane has pretty much sucked the air out of this whole thing and in its wake will come the john roberts nomination. Plus if you haven't noticed the MSM has been pretty quite latley about the whole thing cuz of the counter protest. I give this "story" about a week more tops.

12 Bubble Girl  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:23:50pm

A catalyst? The "newly energized" anti-war movement needs a Flux Capacitor...

13 demoncrat  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:25:13pm

The Negative MSM has created Cindy SheeScam.

14 daughter of patriots  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:26:27pm

I wish we had some kind of instant proof - like Charle's Rathergate flashing memo. Though even with proof so tangible, the MSM would have a hard time swallowing..because they care not for TRUTH, only outcome. Sadly the ends they seek are not in any way, AMERICAN.

Those who post here already & have seen through the deception from way back. That's why the blogs are taking off.

15 Apu Pibat  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:27:18pm

If this is the best the LLLs can do, then it can't be too long before the LLL splodeydopes start coming.

It has to be killing them that they just can't bring people over to their side.

16 Jheka  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:27:54pm

Hey! Leave Carrie Underwood alone! She doesn't deserve to be compared to Sheehan.

17 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:28:07pm

12 Bubble Girl

Tesla coil......

18 Athos  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:29:02pm

#11 blackbeard

That's a good observation about the slowing down of the coverage from the MSM as the counter-protest picked up steam. For the 'appearance' of 'balance' - the MSM would be obligated to provide some coverage of the counter-protests - and if there are more people there than in the Camp Dance on Casey Sheehan's Coffin, it would sure work against the calls of the size / popularity of the protests.

19 [Engineer]  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:29:51pm

When I was at the pro-Bush rally in Crawford yesterday, I asked a news cameraman how the crowd compared to the ant-war crowd. He refused to answer. That told me all I needed to know. 1. He was a moonbat and 2, we had a bigger crowd.

20 Minnesocold  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:34:37pm

I think there's more MSM in Crawford than her supporters.

21 beej  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:39:06pm

The media is pretty scary. They have had all the 'power' to sway public opinion for a good while. (see the Clinton years)Since the advent of the blog, I guess, the empire is crumbling, and they are grasping and clawing to anything, using their most creative abilities and mountains of money to maintain the ability to form public opinion to their satisfaction. Too bad they just don't stick to the truth. They apparently think the masses are too stupid to make the right decisions...How arrogant. Or, maybe that's the fear...if the informed masses made the right decision, then their agenda doesn't get advanced.

/stating the obvious

22 Whippet  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:40:03pm

Please forgive my ignorance, but are there no federal regulations to prohibit the innaccurate reporting of information? I understand the editorial or opinion pages, but what right does the MSM have to decide what our country's agenda should be? If their main focus is dissemination of propoganda to further their anti-american agenda...how are they any different than say Pravda?

23 Spiny Norman  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:40:17pm

#20 Minnesocold

I think there's more MSM in Crawford than her supporters.

I believe that has been the Crawford residents' biggest complaint.

24 zombie  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:40:31pm

The MSM, as usual, is fabricating massive support for a left-wing cause -- support that isn't there -- but the whole point is: for what purpose? Pretending you're rich doesn't make you rich. It just makes you a poor person who's pathetically pretending to be rich. The media does this endlessly with polls, where they cook the numbers and polling techniques to make it appear the country is far more left-wing than it actually is.

But why?

Well, it all came clear during the 2004 election. The media believes, first of all, that the average American is incredibly stupid. Second of all, that people are like sheep. And thirdly, the media were taught by their Marxist professors in J-school that a journalist's task is to mold public sentiment, not report on it accurately. Put these three factors together and you have the explanation.

The media is trying to sway the public mood by making it appear that "everyone" is jumping on the Cindy bandwagon. The theory goes that if the average knuckle-dragging American comes to believe that the Sheehanistas are mainstream, then we'll all say, "Gee, Martha, I don't want to be seen as a loser; better go with the winning team, and the most popular position now is to hate Bush. So, in order not to be left out if the 'in crowd,' I now hate Bush too."

The MSM tried this incessantly during the 2004 election: they kept reporting that Kerry was ahead, that it was neck-and-neck, that Bush was in a continuous slow-motion freefall into oblivion. They reported this not because they thought it was true, but because they thought it would become true if they reported it.

Of course, it didn't work. Kerry never was close, and he lost handily. So the MSM's theory about leading the public by the nose has been proven ineffective.

Yet, for reasons that defy analysis, they persist in their incessant attempts to sway public opinion with false reporting. Because, most likely, at this point they have no other recourse, since standard mechanisms for developing popular support (like having reasonable beliefs and political positions) have been abandoned.

And, to be frank, a certain percentage of younger journalists actually believe their own propaganda. They create lies, and in some magical self-imposed blindness, as they type a lie -- that they know is a lie deep inside -- they begin to believe it themselves as soon as they reach the end of the sentence.

Their futile attempts to drum up a non-existent mass movement are actually a bit amusing.

25 ballantrae  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:41:18pm

#6 Macker

That would be so cool!

We could have a show like, "The next Real Super Martyr". With 10 martyrs from different causes all living in a house, and they have to get along while the crew films their zany adventures. The network could set up symbollic contests for each of the potential martyrs that have nothing to do with real life but are fun to watch.

Each week one marty gets voted out of the house until only one Super Martyr is left!

I would seriously watch that show every day if someone would make it.

-ron

26 jemima  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:41:33pm

Between the possibility of the French Quarter being lost, New Orleans under water for days/weeks/who knows, the oil rigs, refineries, gas prices sky-rocketing because of the hurricane and the devastation Katrina will do along the inland path including floods into the Ohio Valley, Mother Sheehan has seen her 15.5 minutes of fame. She's a one-hit wonder and each time she's trotted out now, she will simply be perceived as a pathetic has-been whatever she was. Once that false adolation she's receiving now is removed, she will probably have a genuine breakdown as it's the only prop to her frail psychological health she has left.

Next sucker, I mean sincere protester without a clue, center stage please, the clock is ticking.

27 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:42:05pm

The storm has pretty much knocked Cindy off the news (it took a hurricane to do it though) but if that doesn't move her out of Crawford and she's still there tomorrow whining on about wanting her rights when people are fighting for their lives in Louisiana and thereabouts, she's gonna look pretty self-centered (which she is but the rest of the world and the MSM don't seem to notice or care). Anyway, Cindy's pretty much done like dinner by now. I'd think. Anyone?

28 Athos  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:42:33pm

#24 zombie

Their futile attempts to drum up a non-existent mass movement are actually a bit amusing.

If it wasn't so dangerous....or pathetic.

29 sven10077  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:42:49pm

Hey maybe THAT is Kos' "secret plan" he is planning a version of the Sheehan manuever called "American moonbat" where the most Vapid off-putting 'activist' is rewarded with a lifetime(as long as they live precisely for their 15 minutes of fame)MSM entourage....

30 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:46:02pm

What about Reverend Al? This hurricane crap, serious as it is, is sucking up all the Sister Cindy TV coverage.

/priorities, I guess, but dissapointing nonetheless

31 Leper  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:47:09pm

I'm trying to figure what happens when you genetically mix Joan Baez and Cindy Sheehan without a sperm donor like Michael Moore. Looks like the entire thing is going sterile.

32 peggie  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:47:26pm

cindys' whole show is run on left-over dem spin. if the iraq war could be vindicated what would be left of her argument. that's supposedly why they're camped out in crawford. the only thing left would be to argue the best way to handle a force that has desires of controling the world in their fashion and putting anyone who disagree to the sword. do you negotiate/talk a good game - you can fool some of the people some of the ime - part of the people part of the time - but never all the people all the time. or do you exercise your right to protect yourself. only a fool wants a war, but it's a bigger fool that refuses to accept the need for one. using scott ritter as proof while choosing to ignore the findings of david kaye [saddam was more dangerous than...] or charles dulfer [couldn't say that there were never wmd in iraq]. cherry picking points.

33 acwgusa  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:50:27pm

#31 Leper


Well, you made me lose my lunch as one result.

34 foreign devil  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:50:52pm

#18 Athos:

As long as there was nobody in Crawford except the 700 locals and Cindy the MSM could spin it any way they wanted. But now 3,000 or more people have arrived and seen exactly what was there for themselves, some of them media on the "You don't speak for me" tour, the MSM can't spin it anymore because the word is out she only had 200 supporters at any given time with a total in Crawford of possibly 1500 all told. But since our crowd on one day alone topped that by double, well the MSM is only to happy to turn to other things like the storm and what the POTUS is doing about that. Ba$tards!

35 MarcusAurelius  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:51:03pm

Well Katrina will replace Cindy as 'bitch du jour' and the Weather Channel will outdraw CNN.

I'm staying with LGF and realtime links:

Link

36 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:52:00pm
#24 zombie

There you go again with those multi-paragraph posts

/you're pissing off people who can't read

37 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:52:03pm

DNC/MSM wag the dog.

I'm so glad ABC news radio gave we talk radio liseners updates on Sacred Cow Sheehan - on the tens.

38 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:52:53pm

I'm sure ABC, NBC & CBS will tell-all about the Nazi-Sheehan connection.


not.

39 cavy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:54:01pm

Heard an ABC "news" radio report yesterday ... said that "counter" protesters had arrived in Crawford ... "Their numbers almost equalled the number of supporters of Cindy Sheahan.
I heard today on Fox that the number was more like 3,000 "You don't speak for me Cindy" protesters almost 5 times as many as the moonbats! (at least as near as I can tell)
The MSM is blowing up this ballon and is running out of breath ... Lots of air is what airheads need to exist!

40 zombie  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:54:18pm
#36 Killian Bundy

There you go again with those multi-paragraph posts

Sorry about that: I'm in a blabbermouth mood today. Diarrhea of the fingertips.

41 Omega  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:54:32pm

Shouldnt Cindy be off to the Phillipines to 'get answers', and to support the mothers who lost children?

42 gunjam  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:56:41pm

#5 goodbye_natalie 8/28/2005 03:13PM PDT

I laughed outloud...man, this is Bernie's weekend vacation!

Wow! That was cold! (And terribly funny!)

Good one!

43 beavereater  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:57:11pm

Flash weather update:

Cindy Sheehan storm is a washout!

I wonder if she will be pissed off a humongous huuricane has filled the airwaves with endless nattering, not about her but the hundreds of thousands of citizens about to be assaulted by MOTHER nature. I will not insinuate in any way that CommieCindy is worse, only that she is worthless.
Take care you-all down south!

44 Bubble Girl  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 1:59:28pm

Where have all the moonbats gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the Neo-Nazis gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the Liberals gone?
Fate have picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

45 cavy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:00:12pm

#24 Zombie

You nailed it down pretty good with your post! Too bad Airheads only have a 10 second attention span. I'm damn sick of the "are too" and "are not" arguments .. the devil is in the details.

46 gunjam  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:01:31pm

#26 jemima 8/28/2005 03:41PM PDT

Once that false adolation she's receiving now is removed, she will probably have a genuine breakdown as it's the only prop to her frail psychological health she has left.

Spot on! I guess that means Cindy is simply an MSM tool -- someone they used for their political gratification and who will now be cast aside.

47 beej  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:01:33pm

I was in high school during the Viet Nam war, so I don't remember the events fully, but wasn't there already a protest of sorts just ahead of the anti-war protests? Everyone going to California, hippies, drugs, sex, etc...a protest against the 'establishment' that sort of fed into the anti-war movement? The anti-establishment group became focused on the anti-war movement...they were sort of ready to be 'led' somewhere, to protest something...I lived in Columbus, Ohio and remember well the riots at OSU. I believe that much of the anti-war movement was filled with kids who were more interested in the way of life they were living than their cause. The cause just gave them an excuse to continue on with their carefree life, living off each other and having 'no responsibilities.'
That ramble was to say there were people available in the '60s for protest, not so many are willing to live that life now. Just my little opinion...

48 will_not_back_down  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:02:03pm

I'll answer the question because I think we all can handle the truth:

All the protesters are in the newsrooms of CNN/MSNBC/ABC/FOX that's where there at. Atleast there they are safe behind their pen and keyboard and not on the frontline whether it's here or "over there".

Sorry for the rant but just read this from Wizbang and Sayanthing:
5-4 Vote by Dallas,TX school board making it a requirement to know Spanish or loose your job.

While we were busy wasting cycles on dang Mother Cindy they managed to sneak this by.

49 Earth2moonbat  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:05:27pm

24 zombie

And, to be frank, a certain percentage of younger journalists actually believe their own propaganda. They create lies, and in some magical self-imposed blindness, as they type a lie -- that they know is a lie deep inside -- they begin to believe it themselves as soon as they reach the end of the sentence.

Uhh......I don't think that's a few of the younger ones. Look at Rather and minions. They believe that fake is irrelivent because it's accurate. They are a seriously delusional bunch, the whole lot of them. It's the ones who aren't who are the rare exception.

50 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:05:29pm

Where are all the vaunted weatherhawks from the MSM and why are they not rushing to SE Louisiana to help in this impending human tragedy?

Where are the sons and daughters of the MSM, and why are they not manning the levees, ready to protect the innocent?

51 Mr. Anachronism  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:06:13pm

Of course, Rosa Parks was manufactured too...yet now she is such a legend that a weblog called Rightwing Nuthouse refers to her as...a legend.

52 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:07:41pm

You can count on Daily Kos to be linking every single anti-Sheehan LGF post as "proof" that LGF is evil incarnate. Since, in the Daily Kos universe, she is "Mother Sheehan" and you are not allowed to say anything negative, otherwise, you're an evil neocon who deserves the death sentence.

53 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:09:35pm
#41 Omega

Shouldnt Cindy be off to the Phillipines to 'get answers', and to support the mothers who lost children?

/why yes, yes she should, how can we make this happen?

54 Uncle BigBad  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:11:29pm

Is it too much to ask just one of the moonbats holding microphones and who have post graduate degrees in journalism to ask Cindy just a few simple questions. I'll help them get started:

1. Cindy, do you believe that John Kerry, who had access to the same information as President Bush, lied about WMD?

2. Has Senator Clinto called you with messages of support?

3. If we could arrange it, and so we can better understand your foreign-policy expertise, would you be willing to debate Christopher Hitchens, or Greyhawk, or Austin Bay, or hell, my next door neighbor's parrot

55 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:14:34pm

We in the NY area call it Sharpton fatigue.

For many years, the slob will announce he's passing wind, and 30 TV cameras and a rent-a-mob are the only attendees.

It's well known at many of his "protests", the media outnumber protestors about 10 to 1.

And Sharpton is a media creation.

Sound familiar?

No wonder he's headed to Crawford. That woman is stealing facetime.
56 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:15:26pm
52 EIDE_Interface

You can count on Daily Kos to be linking every single anti-Sheehan LGF post as "proof" that LGF is evil incarnate. Since, in the Daily Kos universe, she is "Mother Sheehan" and you are not allowed to say anything negative, otherwise, you're an evil neocon who deserves the death sentence.

So what? I will not conform to Daily Kos sensibilities.

/if the truth hurts, so be it

57 flipflop  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:16:10pm

Regarding the media and their incredible ability to present "facts" to support their agenda...

I was watching BBC World in Germany a couple of weeks ago, and on the crawl line at the bottom of the screen there was a an item that went something like "Oil reaches record $66 per barrel due to unprecedented US demand".

I was like WTF? The unprecedented demand for oil in China, India and western Europe has no effect on the supply and demand equation?

But, no, according to BBC, it's all America's fault.

58 AnotherRightWingConspirator  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:16:32pm

Cindy Sheehan, MSM are all lefties, blah, blah, blah.........

yawn

She helps us and hurts them, period. I pity her.

59 Tanker J.D.  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:17:19pm

Puff the Magic Moonbat
Lived by the ranch
With TV cam'ras from CBS
In a land called naivete.

Little Mama Sheehan
Loved that moonbat Puff
and brought him neo-nazis
and other hateful stuff.

Moonbats live forever
but not so over-aged hippies
Neo-nazis and high-priced oil
make way for other protests.

One grey night it happened,
Mama Sheehan walked the line
And Puff that naive moonbat,
he ceased his plaintiff whine.

60 Elcid  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:18:10pm

50 JammieWearingFool

Where are all the vaunted weatherhawks from the MSM

The MSM, doesn't care...they didn't care about Iraqi's, Afghani's, Rwandan's, South Vietnamese, South Koreans, Jews, Christian's, Buddisht's...and on and on.

Why on earth would they care for people in New Orleans, or the Gulf Coast of our country!

They just don't care.

Now ask them about the President...they would go through hell, to bring him down...cindy sheehan, is their ride for that just now. If they don't have the protestor numbers, they will make them up.

61 jrdroll  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:21:47pm

Big storm brewing. Where's Ed?

62 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:23:15pm

I wonder if the world will come to our aid after Katrina hits NO like we helped out after the tsunami.

and more specifically, I wonder if the people at Camp Casey will even care.

63 Taxman  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:23:26pm

I have no sympathy for this bitch, never have, never will. I'd as soon see someone beat her with a lead pipe than look at her cock-sucking face crying into the tv cameras. I am at the end of my patience with this whore (should say "slut", no one would pay her for sex).

64 Ol' flyboy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:26:25pm

#60 El Cid

Of course the MSM does not care for the people in the states threatened by Katrina...they are all red states that gave them the evil George Bush for four more years.

65 reaganfan  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:26:28pm

This sort of reminds me of what the late, great writer Mike Royko wrote about in regards to the youth who protested the Vietnam War. Royko observed that after Nixon ended the draft, the youth protestors stopped. They really had the self interested motive of not being drafted. So much for their "idealism."

66 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:27:07pm

#63 taxman

don't hold back. tell us how you REALLY feel.

67 Ojoe  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:29:11pm

This "peace" stuff appears really big if you listen to NPR and "Pacifica" radio.

Peace thru Victory, I say. Someone make a sign saying that!

68 MarcusAurelius  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:29:47pm

#54 UncleB

Hey Cindy,

If we could arrange it, and so we can better understand your foreign-policy expertise, would you be willing to debate Christopher Hitchens, or Greyhawk, or Austin Bay, or hell, my next door neighbor's parrot

Thanks for the comic relief. I love parrots (the ones with feathers, that is)

69 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:30:18pm

62,

We'd be in big trouble waiting for help.

Folks, we need to be sure the victims of this storm are taken care of and helped any way we can.

We're on our own. Not wasting a breath for help, though I'm sure some of our true friends will offer.

And it will be frustrating to see the media lay blame at the President's feet, using a natural disaster to score cheap, political points. And they will do it.

But the good Americans people and our President will do anything they can, not looking for some worthless camera time in a vainglorious bid for attention.

As soon as this storm hits land, Mother Sheehan will be rightfully relegated to the dustbin of history.

Sadly, it's taken an act of God.

70 Andrew X  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:30:32pm

Many have commented, not without reason, on the PR sophistication of 'Mother Cindy's' effort. But I realize that the effort did commit one cardinal sin.... that of cannibalism.

To quote Bill Quick -- "Karl who? Valerie who?"

Here we were, all ready to electric chair Karl Rove for TREASON... booga booga booga!... on behalf of poor innocent 'Sister Valerie', that defender of us all (between Vanity Fair shoots), valiant soldier of that deeply humanistic and important organization, the CIA (well, humanistic and important as long as we can use it against Rove, then it will conveniently go back to being blood-smeared imperialist butchers)... all the pieces are in place, the MSM machine is humming nicely... and then Mama Cindy comes along and steps all over it.

Haven't heard a peep on that important, life-or-death-of -the-nation issue since.

Karl who? Valerie whosat again?

Heh.

71 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:32:13pm

Prepare for more lunacy from the left - new Downing Street memo BS is coming down the pipe -

he Foreign Office's top official warned Downing Street that the Iraq war was fuelling Muslim extremism in Britain a year before the 7 July bombings, The Observer can reveal.

Despite repeated denials by Number 10 that the war made Britain a target for terrorists, a letter from Michael Jay, the Foreign Office permanent under-secretary, to the cabinet secretary, Sir Andrew Turnbull - obtained by this newspaper - makes the connection clear.

The letter, dated 18 May 2004, says British foreign policy was a 'recurring theme' in the Muslim community, 'especially in the context of the Middle East peace process and Iraq'.

So now we will hear crap how Blair was warned and should have quit Iraq because the Islamists in his country didn't like the policy.

72 MARS Trucker  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:33:09pm
Also, this blogger took the trouble to add up names from three Guest Books which had been placed around Camp Casey and discovered 750 signatures – not from one day but from more than 2 weeks of protests.

Very telling and just like the protest over the Viet Nam War, the minority had the biggest mouths, well then again not this time. Lizards, how does it feel to be the modern day equivalent of Teddy Roosevelt? The difference is our STICK is Charles and everyone here working together as one powerful voice.

/ THE NOT SO SILENT MAJORITY

73 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:35:01pm

#62 lance

As I posted at the time, if we were the victims of a crippling tsunami and on our knees, they wouldn't send help, they'd send hordes over to finish the infidels (us) off...

74 MarcusAurelius  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:36:01pm

#70 Andrew X

Enter stage left: Katrina, the one-eyed devil.

You are correct, the media whores care about only one thing, and it ain't you or me.

75 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:38:14pm

I just got back to my desk.

Am I hearing this correctly...did Hurricane Cindy just fizzle out?
Did the MSM over-reach in their predictions?

/How can this be?

76 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:38:28pm
77 KrustyKoot  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:38:35pm

Something that I've found puzzling is the absence of all the big name Democratic pols from Crawford. No Kerry, Hillary, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, etc., etc.. Not even the whack jobs like Boxer. Even Jesse Jackson was a 'no show' which I find amazing.

78 jrdroll  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:39:17pm

#62

I wonder if the world will come to our aid after Katrina hits NO like we helped out after the tsunami.

Please don't also inflict the UN on NO;)

79 stuiec  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:39:28pm

Funny thing. The night of the nationwide "vigils," we saw about 100 people in Lafayette, CA, doing the candle thing. But before the main group arrived, there were about six flashing signs at passing traffic -- signs that said "Contra Costa County Democrats." The Democrats are fully vested in Cindy Sheehan, and should be held fully accountable for her insane rantings. We need to ask local Democratic officials if they also believe that we're at war to defend Israel, and that our soldiers are all murderers.

80 Occasional Reader  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:39:33pm

#70 karmic:

Good lord, you mean that the invasion of Iraq was going to going to get hook-handed mullahs in London screaming about killing infidels?! Who knew?!

81 cavy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:40:00pm

"Mother Sheahan" is an idiot airhead being used by the moonbats ... if it were not for the MSM she would be standing on some corner somewhere holding a poster board sign ... no wait, she would be washing dishes and clothes wishing that Casey had not lived his own life. poor woman ... she is just a simple fool.

82 Tanker J.D.  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:41:17pm

Mama Sheehan's Ballad (to the "Boxer")

I am just a moonbat but my story’s often told
I’ve squandered my resistance for a pocketful of slogans, such are liberals
All propaganda, still the MSM hears what it wants to hear
And disregards the rest, hmmmm

When I left my home and my family, I was just a greiving mom
In the company of strangers
In the bright light of the TV cameras, shoutin' loud,
protestin' my best, seeking out the rich, where the famous people go
Looking for the places only they would know

Li la li...

Asking only for attention, I come protestin' a war, and I get some offers
Lots of comeons from the pimps in the MSM
I do declare, there were times when I was so angry
I took some comfort there

Now the years are rolling by me, they are rockin’ even me
I am older than I once was, and younger than I’ll be, that’s not unusual
No it isn’t strange, after changes upon changes, we are more or less the same
After changes we are more or less the same

Li la li...

And I’m laying out my protest sign, wishing I was gone, goin’ home
Where the Crawford, Texas heat isn't bleedin’ me, leadin’ me to go home

In the clearing stands a protester, and a shouter by her trade
And she carries the reminders of every reporter that puffed her up or pampered her
’til she cried out in her anger and her pain
I am angry, I want popularity, but the grieving still remains
Yes it still remains

Li la li...

83 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:43:59pm

#82 Tanker J.D.


WOW, how long did it take you to come up with that one?

84 Tanker J.D.  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:46:14pm

Desert Sage:

It's easier when you cut-n-paste from the real lyrics, and then just edit as needed...

85 Max Darkside  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:46:57pm

This "Mass Movement" requires a plunger.

86 Andrew X  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:48:01pm

Special prize for the first person who can get a quote from the Muslim world saying that Katrina is punishment from Allah upon a crusader and/or immoral nation, blah blah blah.

Maybe a second contest prdicting the exact time and date such a post is discovered and posted here.

On the second, I go with.... hmmmm.. Tuesday, say, 2pm.

Then, look for the same condemnation from the Muslim world, Europe, or the American Left, of such a statement as we saw of Jerry Falwell when he said the exact same thing about 9/11.

Look for such condemnation about... oh... Thursday, say 10am.

Thursday, 10am, October 22..... of the year 2087.

87 Elcid  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:48:46pm

83 DesertSage

WOW, how long did it take you to come up with that one?

Shhhhh, don't tell anybody, but Tanker J.D. is really Billy Joel, or is it Neil Diamond?

88 beavereater  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:50:05pm
89 Spiny Norman  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:50:23pm

#85 Max Darkside

This "Mass Movement" requires a plunger.

*flooossshhhh*

Ah, much better.

;^)

90 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:51:44pm

#87 Elcid

I think it's John Denver.

Tanker.....JD

91 Tanker J.D.  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:52:55pm

/aw schucks

92 RiverRat  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:53:43pm

From the Waco Tribune-Herald
Arrests, rhetoric highlight protests

By Thaddeus DeJesus and J.B. Smith Tribune-Herald staff writers

Sunday, August 28, 2005

CRAWFORD -– With five days left until the end of anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan's vigil near President Bush's ranch, Crawford became protest central Saturday as supporters and opponents of the Iraq war rallied, marched and simmered in 101-degree heat.

Much of the media focus Saturday was on Sheehan's two peace camps just beyond Crawford -– one on the side of Prairie Chapel Road, the other in a field temporarily donated by a local landowner – and yet other anti-war protesters at the Crawford Peace House in town.

In addition, however, there was a pro-Bush camp that sprouted alongside a souvenir shop specializing in President Bush dolls, T-shirts and coffee cups; a West Coast caravan dubbed “You Don't Speak for Me, Cindy!” that took over the football stadium Saturday afternoon to rally on behalf of U.S. troops; and Operation Iraqi Hope, made up of family members who have lost loved ones in Iraq but still support the war.


Altogether, pro-war events in Crawford attracted about 3,000 people. Attendance at Camp Casey I and II together appeared to reach about 1,500.

93 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:54:24pm

#91 Tanker J.D.

Well, we could have said.......Joan Baez :-)

94 krisper  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:54:56pm

The whole "Mother Sheehan" thing just makes my blood run cold. She's not MY mother, and she's not the living spirit of Gaia risen up to topple our depraved Western capitalist dystopia. The "mother" angle's just a cynical and contrived attempt to graft a certain insipid spiritual dimension to a cheap partisan circus. It's a cheap play on new age sentimentality that's aimed squarely and very deliberately at the whole vegan/hemp/yoga-nazi demographic. Crass. Almost nothing of this whole business smells the slightest bit sincere.

95 stuiec  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:55:44pm

Has anybody gotten aerial photographs to compare Camp Cindy to the counter-protest site? That would be interesting....

96 Cooper4Prez  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:56:02pm

Krusty (#77),

Something that I've found puzzling is the absence of all the big name Democratic pols from Crawford. No Kerry, Hillary, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, etc., etc.. Not even the whack jobs like Boxer. Even Jesse Jackson was a 'no show' which I find amazing.

I'm absolutely certain that they were all very close to showing up at one of these events until they heard what Sheehan had said about "The Jews," "America isn't worth fighting for," and her precious "Freedom fighters."

Where did they learn about her comments? Since it couldn't have been from the MSM, the only logical conclusion is that they (or their advisors) listen to talk radio and read LGF (actually, this is already known to be true). The democrats should all make a hefty donation to Charles for sparing them from political suicide.

And if Mother Moonbat is going after Tom DeLay next, will she go after any of the dems (like Hillary) who voted in favor of the war? No way. It will never happen (unless Dean decides to undermine any potential rivals for 2008).

97 MARS Trucker  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:56:35pm

#79 stuiec

Funny thing. The night of the nationwide "vigils," we saw about 100 people in Lafayette, CA, doing the candle thing.


Let the LLL have their freakin' vigils, they love playing victim to anything and everything be it war, natural disasters and the like, to which of course, they blame the Right for ignoring U.N. protocol to the Right causing global warming. Hell, Sheehan son's death was actually caused by W not signing on with Kyoto which caused the world to use more oil which spawned the Attacks on the U.S. which sent a patriotic mind control beam to young minds to convince them to join and get murdered by W because he ordered the attacks on Iraq to steal their oil to make Haliburton and Dick Cheney wealthy.

Let the LLL believe what they want. Eventually they'll fade away into the woodwork as more and more Americans come to the realization that the LLL can't change the world, only the individual can make their choice to make a difference in their own lives and by the way, that's called "Liberty", something the LLL and the ACLU have confused with "Communism".

98 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:58:13pm

What this guy says is absolutely correct. It is a well oiled, smoothly run subsidised political pr campaign that presents itself as being larger than it is.

When I was there yesterday, Cindy talked about how thousands were here waiting for Bush to see them. When I looked around there were only a couple hundred.

I personally saw the wizard behind the curtain and he had no clothes (to mix metaphors).

I have seen bigger crowds for High School football games.

99 Beagle  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 2:58:26pm

#71 k_i

Appeasement is their only option. They will try to run it by us in every way and all the time. Terrorists are, by definition, blameless for their actions. Homegrown jihadis killing innocent commuters must be analyzed and studied to determine the best way to make them happy. Screw the victims.

The Left is sociopathy with a twist.

100 Whippet  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:01:32pm

#92 RiverRat

Was over checking out all the DUmmies have been saying...All the standard rantings.

One thread was that the MSM lied about those numbers and that they were reversed so that Camp Casey had more supporters. Of course that has to be true!

They are also fawning over Martin Sheen, who has just arrived at Camp Casey. Some are hoping Jane Fonda will show.

Yuk.

101 Grandma  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:03:33pm

#86, Andrew X,

Special prize for the first person who can get a quote from the Muslim world saying that Katrina is punishment from Allah upon a crusader and/or immoral nation, blah blah blah.


I've been thinking that thought will fall out of some jerk's mouth too, but I didn't know I'd get a "special prize" if I'm the first to find one. What would I get? A new burqha?

102 krisper  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:03:37pm

#99 The Left is sociopathy with a twist.

That's an insult to sociopaths, Beagle. But you're dead on about the twisted part.

103 lowandslow  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:04:53pm

#95 stuiec

Has anybody gotten aerial photographs to compare Camp Cindy to the counter-protest site? That would be interesting....

I'm sure when the President is in Crawford there is a rather large temporary restricted area for any flying, so I doubt there would be any aerial photos.

104 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:07:14pm
BEERSHEBA, Israel - A suicide bomber blew himself up outside the central bus station in this southern Israeli city during morning rush hour Sunday, critically wounding two security guards in the first attack since Israel began its withdrawal from the Gaza Strip this month.

Lets see,
how long has it been now?
Oh yeah,
2 days.

/This year Gaza,
Next year Jerusalem.

moonbats.

105 cavy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:10:54pm

99 Beagle

Your post reminded me of something ... where are the moonbats with conviction .. you know like those who flooded to Iraq before the first Gulf War to take up positions in the Military Bases and Factories? They would make great IED detectors! They could lead the armored columns to "Peace" ... hell we could give them flowers to stick into the AK47's of the terrorists! Come-on Moonbats STAND UP FOR YOUR BELIEFS!
A better plan would be to get a sound truck and show up at their candle light vigils ... then play the tape of Nick Bergs last few minutes ... over and over ...

106 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:12:07pm
Krusty (#77),

Something that I've found puzzling is the absence of all the big name Democratic pols from Crawford. No Kerry, Hillary, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, etc., etc.. Not even the whack jobs like Boxer. Even Jesse Jackson was a 'no show' which I find amazing.

The Democrats are oportunists. Only
IF and WHEN this little circus turned into a full fledged movement, would the rank and file liberals come out and join them.
They have no leadership or conviction about this issue. The only thing they can do is bash Bush. They will stay in their little holes and shake like the little rats they are until they see by sheer numbers they are safe to come out.
Well, the numbers never happened and now they can play it safe and say that they never really supported that crazy woman.
These people are disgusting, they would eat their own young if it were in their best interest.

107 Taxman  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:14:14pm

Hey Coop4Prez! when you going to start your blog back up? I sure miss it. Other than Sir Charles and RightNation, you were one that I turned to daily. Get back on the Web chief!

108 mattm  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:16:52pm

For the first day or tow they did an impressive job about keeping it about meeting with bish because of Casey's death. After the caters, MoveOn.org, etc began to get involved, it became about Cindy's own agenda, not her son. It was never about Casey.

109 Orson Buggy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:27:15pm

#63 Taxman

C'mon Tax, tell us how you *really* feel

110 MarcusAurelius  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:27:17pm

Katrina will make landfall about the time we all arise in the AM.

We pray the human tragedy is minimized.

On another note, look for oil to skyrocket, the market to tank. Gas to jump at the pump.

And I fully expect the POTUS to make an address tomorrow evening. As well he should in the wake of the this great natural disaster. That's what he gets paid for.

111 Taxman  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:34:38pm

If I typed how I really felt about this whore, I'd be kicked off Sir Charles web site and probably arrested. I kept my yap shut just because of these two reasons. Most people just loath this creature, I truely just flat out hate her for what she is and stands for, and the asshats which promote her BS. I have no sympathy for her, Casey, yes, Slut-woman, no.

112 KrustyKoot  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 3:42:04pm

#96 Cooper4Prez
#106 DesertSage

Just located Jesse Jackson. AOL News has this headline.

'Rev. Jackson Lends Support to Chavez'.

He's in Venezuela and appeared on a Chavez weekly TV show. He's pursuing the Chavez offer of oil on preferential terms to 'poor communities'.

As they say you need to follow the money.

113 Just Another Four-Letter Word  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 4:39:20pm

I just had a thought, people - in looking at the storm track, after Katrina passed over the southern tip of Florida it looked like it was headed for Texas.

Then, it took a sharp right turn towards Nawlins.

I got to thinking about pressures, highs and lows, and what "pushes" weather around. I came to the conclusion that all of that hot air out of Crawford (and more specifically Camp Cindy) was causing a ridge of high pressure that was pushing Katrina off to the north!

Therefore, Mother Cindy is directly responsible for Nawlins getting creamed by Katrina!

Right?

JAFLW

/you know the drill

114 Cornholio  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 4:51:01pm

Sheehan is so choreographed, so scripted, so fake* I wonder if some LLL organization selected her through an American-Idol-style casting call.

I can just picture a table, with George Soros, Michael Moore, and Kos rating the weepiness of competing LLL widows. "Can't you grieve louder than that? Let's see some tears, people! Next contestant!"

*Obviously Ms. Sheehan's loss is terrible. But her ability to go from smiling to tearstruck when cameras appear makes one wonder.

115 Cooper4Prez  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 5:06:11pm

Taxman,

Hey Coop4Prez! when you going to start your blog back up? I sure miss it. Other than Sir Charles and RightNation, you were one that I turned to daily. Get back on the Web chief!

Well, I was going to start it up again, but I've changed my mind due to your insulting racial slur. Yes, I am 1/32nd Cherokee, and I am deeply offended by the term "chief."

:P

Thanks for the compliments! I don't know if I will start back up again. The site really took a lot of time (and it was about as addictive as crack). I promised my wife that I'd quit the site after the election.

In the meantime, my friend Tiberius has a lot of CFP articles archived at his site. But more importantly, he has a lot of his own hilarious observations.

116 dak  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 5:25:27pm

Heh, heh,

Good little article there. A little bit of the tail wagging the dog from the media?

Thought only Rove did that sort of thing...

117 JollyFatMan  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 5:26:10pm

Folks,

The media has been lying about this tripe for YEARS AND YEARS! It's how they pay the bills. I've watched it over and over, for example, once I drove by 4 or five kooks with signs outside my base and then saw not only the same kooks on the evening news getting headliner status, but caught my truck go by on camera. What a laugh that was!

What the MSM doesn't get is the positive stuff or even the stuff that would be considered newsworthy by a conservative sells too.

A grand example that the conservative viewpoint sells is Fox News tromping everyone else in the ratings. I'm sure the MSM can see it. Why not do something positive about it?

Another good example is CNN going in the tank ratings wise, most probably because they refuse to present anything but a left leaning or even anti-American perspective. Why don't they do something positive about it?

Why? The MSM doesn't get it. Fabricating news doesn't sell papers, or get viewer attention, but they do it anyway. Why?

What it does get is an angry public that changes the channel and stops subscriptions. I'm sure more than a few folks reading this post have stopped a subscription or no longer watches a news channel for the very reasons I'm talking about.

The evidence is right in front of them. All they need to do is clean up the act and start presenting the news that people demand to see. Do you think they will eventually get it?

Naa.

Not until it's too late and they are out of a job, or out of work, or so out of favor they are reduced to feeding off of the Leftards and shilling it right back to them.

Wait. I think that's happening as I pound on the keyboard..... Who posted the tidbit that Al Sharpton is well known for speaking in front of a rent-a-mob and 30 cameras? Just another example of getting lied to by the good old MSM.

But wait! Didn't I just see AL SHARPTON himself hamming it up in front of the cameras and an almost-made-for-TV leftard mob made up of every kook-without-a-job from around America? Hey, how can it better than this? A kook and a professional shill for a kook hamming it up in front of a mini-me-mob of kooks. Next they'll be ruining all those great 60's songs and I'll just have to scream!

Enough ranting for today.... There's a war to tend to.


JFM

118 Jesus' boy  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 7:16:19pm

Sorry if this has been posted already.
"mother Sheehan" takes a break with apparently only the MSM around. Where ARE all the protesters?

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

119 stuiec  Sun, Aug 28, 2005 7:17:42pm

#117 JollyFatMan

Look also at the box office numbers for Hollywood movies. They're dismal. The same old same old from Hollywood's brain trust is not getting through to Americans anymore. I suspect it's because Americans are getting smarter.

120 N. O'Brain  Mon, Aug 29, 2005 4:34:14am

Grigori Aleksandrovich Potemkin is turning over in his grave.


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