as long as they don't torture anyone (i.e. drop their koran on the floor, or call them bad names) then it's ok.

eye gouging is fine.

I think even Hammurabi is rolling over in his grave over this one. . .

Charles, you should add as an update the story about the maid who got 79 lashes in Saudi for committing the crime of being tortured by her employer, linked to by Totally Berserk on the earlier thread.

This is shari'a, my friend, the justice code that will prevail worldwide when the Caliphate arises.

But at the Tookie Williams vigil, Joan Baez lectured the United States that "an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind."

Hey Joan -- why don't you take your crusade to Saudi Arabia where they actually do take an eye for an eye -- not just metaphorically? C'mon, we're waiting, Joan.

Any guesses as to how many references to this sort of Saudi "justice" there'll be in the MSM?
Any guesses as to how many references to Bushitlerburton's "destruction" of all of our freedoms there'll be?
I'm thinking there will be about a 1 to 30 ratio.
After all, the NSA deal is vital to our way of life, and Saudi's can't possibly affect our way of life . . right?
*spit and spit again*

I bet he breathed a sigh of relief it wasn't his head being gouged.

/sarc

The thing about shari'a justice that's even more horrifying than the sentences meted out is the almost invariably unfair and non-fact-based way the convictions are made. Consider the facts of this case:

Noushad, 32, had been working at a petrol pump in Dammam on the Saudi east coast since 1995. He had a fight with a Saudi customer over payment in April 2003 that put him in jail.
The Saudi man later lost his eyesight, but the Indian said it was not because of the injuries he inflicted, and that he had acted in self-defence. ...

There's no evidence that
1. The fight led to the Saudi losing his sight; it could have been for a completely unrelated reason;
2. The Indian was the aggressor.

For all we know, a Saudi could have tried to stiff the Indian guy by trying to leave without paying, and when he was stopped, attacked the clerk, who then defended himself, possibly inflicting some injuries on the guy attacking him. Then much later, possibly for some totally unrelated reason, the Saudi guy loses his sight, so he gets revenge on the Indian clerk by blaming his medical problem on the long-past fight. The court, being biased toward Muslim testimony and against non-Muslim testimony, buys the Saudi's story, and then convicts the Indian guy.

Regardless of the nature of the sentence handed down subsequently, the whole shari'a justice system seems corrupt and another feature of Muslim domination and enforced dhimmitude.

Good job Zombie.

Moral Relativism In Its Basic Form.

Mr Mutawa

Is that a joke?
Mutawa
That's like being charged with marijuana possession and getting Herbert DuPont Anslinger as your defense attorney.

Maybe next time he'll see things their way.

Note to self ... If I get into a fight with a guy in Saudi Arabia, don't kick him in the balls ...

Meanwhile, check out this story about a group of Jews who hunted down and killed Nazis after WWII.

The suadis should be thankful that the Indian wasn't sentenced to have a pair of ladies panties placed over his head. If that had happened then the MSM would have got really upset, like it did with the Americans over abu grahib.

And pigs might fly...

Moral Relativism:

In philosophy, moral relativism is the position that moral or ethical propositions do not reflect absolute and universal moral truths but instead are relative to social, cultural, historical or personal references, and that there is no single standard by which to assess an ethical proposition's truth. Relativistic positions often see moral values as applicable only within certain cultural boundaries or the context of individual preferences. An extreme relativist position might suggest that it is meaningless for the moral or ethical judgments or acts of one person or group to be judged by another, though most relativists propound a more limited version of the theory

... CD on now: Legend of Johnny Cash

The center of the Islamic world, and this is what they produce?

14

Misery and death.

It's a year since the Tsunami ... with respect to death toll, it was, more or less, 9-11 times ninety five. Today, over a million are still homeless. It's almost too much to imagine.

There is no moral relativism, it's a great example of tribal justice that is only 1000 years out of date, 'cept in Islamdom

Jheka

Yes.. I had a friend who was in the tsunami in Thailand, amazingly she and her boyfriend were able to escape after the waves flooded their cabin.

In some ways the world is no different than when we still lived in caves. Still dangerous.

17

Dem/MSM apologists would have our beliefs sway toward acceptance, tolerence and understanding of this expansive ideology.

and Disturbing paradoxes exist.

@19 RTLM

The slow boiling pot, with the agenda of the preboiled accepting their fate with no fuss.

20

As Lemmings over the cliff.

"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."

From what I understand, this also applies to people with one testicle in certain non-Republican American political parties.

#22

Agreed. Backbone and balls are key and sorely lacking with current Reps.

One eye working sucks. No depth perception.

@23 RTLM

And the worst case of tunnel vision.

I have Canadian friends that fear shari'a law there. One female that I would love to make her and her daughter Americans. :-)

Here's a Flash from China:China Outlaws Abortiion - Sort Of

This is a horrific story, reported on FoxNews.com-

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Pakistani Father Slays 4 Daughters in 'Honor Killings'

Sunday, December 25, 2005
AP (via FoxNews)

MULTAN, Pakistan — A father, angry that his eldest daughter had married against his wishes, slit her throat as she slept and then killed three of his other daughters in a remote village in eastern Pakistan, police said Saturday.

Nazir Ahmad, a laborer in his 40s, feared the younger girls, aged 4, 8, and 12, would follow in their sister's footsteps, police officer Shahzad Gul said.

#4 zombie

But at the Tookie Williams vigil, Joan Baez lectured the United States that "an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.

Hey Joan -- why don't you take your crusade to Saudi Arabia where they actually do take an eye for an eye -- not just metaphorically? C'mon, we're waiting, Joan.
"

I think she tried except that she didn't like wearing a Burqa, and that they banned that whole "females making music" thing.

Merry Christmas from Joan Baez (What Child is this).

Tough Pic For Viewing, but says it all.

US Soldier's Helping Hand

Damn. Prev. link didn't do what I told it to.

I've written about this sharia concept before:

Camel Economics

The only full members of the Islamic community are Muslim men. All others have fewer rights, due to their religion, sex or slave status. The rates for blood money mirror this apartheid system. A Saudi court ruled that the value of one woman’s life is equal to that of one man’s leg. The court ordered a Saudi to pay a Syrian expatriate blood money after he killed the man’s wife and severed both his legs in a car accident six months earlier. The court ordered $13,300 compensation for the man’s wife, and the same amount for each of his legs. The fact that a Muslim woman is valued the same as a Muslim man’s leg is appalling. What’s even worse is that the life of an ex-Muslim is worth nothing at all. He is a traitor and can be killed with impunity.

Ali Sina puts it this way in his essay "Is Political Islam Fascism?":

In the April 9, 2002 issue, The Wall Street Journal published the concept of blood money in Saudi Arabia. If a person has been killed or caused to die by another, the latter has to pay blood money or compensation, as follow.

100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man
50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman
50,000 riyals if a Christian man
25,000 riyals if a Christian woman
6,666 riyals if a Hindu man
3,333 riyals if a Hindu woman

According to this hierarchy, a Muslim man's life is worth 33 times that of a Hindu woman. This hierarchy is based on the Islamic definition of human rights and is rooted in the Quran and Sharia (Islamic law). How can we talk of democracy when the concept of equality in Islam is non-existent?

Zombie is right.

The Saudis have long since abandon any moral code. They frequently use "eye plucking" as a punishment. This not only disfigures a person for life but intimidates subjects in their kingdom.

Let's be reciprocal. Grab a few Saudis criminals in the US and send them to a ME State to have their eye's plucked out.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Further let's realize that the Saudis did not help much during the Iraq war. They did not allow us to use their new air base (build by Americans) and have harbored terrorists who have committed crimes against the USA (the bin laden family comes to mind).

Good morning, dead thread. Since the broad topic is the wonders of multiculturalism, here's a little gem I received from a friend in Cali, Colombia regarding native Christmas celebrations.

We ate the leftover turkey and went down to the main street to see the Cavalgata, or traditional horse parade. People line the streets and drink while drunk horse riders ride by, and the police and military try to separate both parties, the drunk riders from the drunk spectators. I swear some of the men were so drunk I dont know how they stayed on their horses, riding by. Some riders would have plowed into the crowd if not for the barriers and police. They drink beer and rum and aquardiente and some homemade stuff called guarapo, which is a beer distilled cane sugar type of drink. Pretty nasty. We did not stay long on the parade street as it began to rain and we retreated back home.

Yup, that sounds like a treat for the kiddies.

"an eye for an eye"...

This guys are so dumb they don't even understand that it is supposed to be kist a metaphor.

Finally! A Pope who 'gets it':

[Link: reuters.myway.com...]

How about this for multiculturalism?

[Link: onlypunjab.com...]

lol isnt that where many of the terrorists came from? why did we invade iraq then

It says in the article:

Saudi Arabia applies a strict form of Islam

LMAO! Just a 'strict' form of Islam, nevermind-just keep walking past...

I just saw another article about the Kingom in the Hebrew papers-that Saudi women will now be able to drive-with their husband's permission! How enlightened! I'll see if I can find it.

#27 starsandstripes

That was posted here a few days ago-FOX probaby got it from LGF!

Light posting this AM. Guess I'll go clean something and come back. There's always some dishes to wash.

JEDDAH, 26 December 2005 — Crown Prince Sultan, deputy premier and minister of defense and aviation, yesterday emphasized the government’s readiness to open the way for women driving once they get consent from their families.

“When fathers, husbands and brothers ask us for women to drive we will look into it, but if they ask us the opposite we can’t force them (to let women drive),” the Saudi Press Agency quoted the crown prince as saying. In a previous statement, Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah had said that Saudi women would be permitted to drive someday. ...

Women Driving a Family Issue, Says Sultan
So I guess that clears things up...

On second thought, maybe I'll finish the coffee first. Then I can wash the coffee pot as well. One more day of this madness, then we can go back to being our usual slovenly selves.

#40 MikeC.

What am I,i>chopeed liver?Just kidding.

#41 J.D

Yah-I guess I got all excited for nothing..."if" those silly women still want to drive, then their male keepers could possibly discuss it with authorities. Such progressive people!

Hi WriterMom and Mike C.aka The Dishwasher

.
There. Forgot that...

Indonesian Maid’s Tragedy Continues
OK. That'll do it for Arab News for one day...can only take so much...

Good morning, J.D. and WriterMom. I finished the coffee, so now I have no choice but to do something productive. The Goddess of Periodicals is washing the first load of dishes, so I guess I'll go push the vacuum cleaner for a bit.

The New York Times' Christmas gift -- sorry, holiday gift -- to the nation's political dialogue was its Dec. 16 story reporting that the National Security Agency has been intercepting telephone conversations between terrorism suspects abroad and U.S. citizens or legal residents in the United States.

What the Times didn't bother telling its readers is that this practice is far from new and is entirely legal. Instead, the unspoken subtext of the story was that this was likely an illegal and certainly a very scary invasion of Americans' rights. ...

...Earlier this month, a Newsweek cover story depicted George W. Bush as living inside a bubble, isolated from knowledge of the real world. Many of the news stories about the NSA intercepts show that it is mainstream media that are living inside a bubble, carefully insulating themselves and their readers and viewers from knowledge of applicable law and recent historical precedent, determined to pursue an agenda of undermining the Bush administration regardless of any damage to national security.

And damage there almost certainly would be were the program to be ended, as many Democrats and many in the mainstream media would like. Gen. Michael Hayden, former director of NSA and now deputy national intelligence director, has come forward to say, "This program has been successful in detecting and preventing attacks inside the United States."

The Constitution, Justice Robert Jackson famously wrote, should not be interpreted in a way that makes it "a suicide pact." The notion that terrorists' privacy must be respected when they place a cell-phone call to someone in the United States is in the nature of a suicide pact. The Fourth Amendment's ban on unreasonable searches and seizures in the United States should not be stretched into a ban on interceptions of communications from America's enemies abroad.

The mainstream media, inside their left-wing bubble, evidently thinks that there is not much in the way of danger. They should take a trip to Ground Zero, to the Sept. 11 memorial at the Pentagon, to Shanksville, Pa., where the heroes of United flight 93 prevented the terrorists from hitting their target in Washington.

All the news that's fit to ignore - Michael Barone

#32 Ledger1

Let's be reciprocal. Grab a few Saudis criminals in the US and send them to a ME State to have their eye's plucked out.

Worst thing possible. Besides dropping us to the Saudi level, it also dignfies what they do as "correct". Why the F should *we* emulate *them*?

The "best" thing that we can do is have a sitting executive state for the record that eye-plucking, hand-chopping, and stoning are barbaric punishments left over from the 10th century, and that they have no place in modern societies.

/dreaming

Meanwhile, the Bin Laden family, apart from Uncle Osama, are predominantly loyal Saudi toe-suckers. Binny's dad made billions doing construction for the Sauds and was buddy-buddy with King Faisal.

By far the best thing the USA can do to end Saudi barbarism is to divest ourselves from petroleum.

#48 J.D.

Well, the ever-vigilant NYT is on it. Pick up a copy of today's issue. There is a 2-page, full-color photo spread of "Iraqi sacrifice". Maimed children, displaced families - you get the idea.

Not a purple finger in the lot.

# 49 looking closely

By far the best thing the USA can do to end Saudi barbarism is to divest ourselves from petroleum.

You come up with an economical, practical way to do that, you let us know, y'hear ?

#51 Mike C.

Tofu powered automobiles?

Breaking: Shiite Iraqi Imam - Mossad controls al-Jazeera

It comes as no surprise to me that lunatics who used to live off the oil vouchers which they sucked from your blood and resources, could fall into the swamp of abomination to which Al-Jazeera TV fell.

It comes as no surprise to me that a TV channel known to be guided by the Mossad, and agencies whose purpose is to damage Arabs Islamic interest - Al-Jazeera TV... It comes as no surprise at all that it could stoop to such a level.

It comes as no surprise to me that the midget-state of Qatar, which is clearly supported by Israel - this gang that now sits on the (Qatari) throne.

(...)

How many times has Al-Jazeera TV arrived at the scene of terrorist attacks even before the terrorists themselves? Their cameras were in place before the crimes were committed.

Interesting question at the end though. ;-)

Fox News reporting gas attacks at a supermarket in St. Petes. In two other stores of the same chain, they have found unexploded IED.

everybody evac'd, 70 people taken to hospital.

I should say St. Petes RUSSIA

#50 grayp
I found it online...

“We once lived in a good place, but that was before the war. It got expensive after the war so we moved out. Now everything costs so much. The rents are too high. Food is not cheap. My husband can’t find work, so we live here. This war did little to help us. We are worse now than before. And to make matters worse, I am pregnant again.”

And she already has 5 little children!

What do you give a Democrat for Christmas?

A bottle of vintage whine.

Fox web link is a bit different than the report I heard on the broadcast. This says there were gas attacks in 4 stores and nothing about IEDs.

#57 winter

Ann Coulter's How to talk to a Liberal
Tofu
Karl Rove Action Figure
American Flag
Hemp
Patchouli
A Clue

# 52 Totally Sirius

Well, I think it might have a neutral to negative energy balance, but at least it would be a useful purpose for that nasty crap.

#60 Mike C

Exactly.

There has to be some use for that drek.

So I assume everybody is running off to a large mall today to play parking lot bumper cars and dispose of any scap of cash or credit they might have left. Don't have time myself, so I'll just have to simulate it by going out and slamming my head in the car door a few times.

# 61 Totally Sirius

It's only virtue as a food is that it's slimy and slides right down so you don't have to chew and taste it.

Via realclearpolitics - not, of course, the NYT.
A doctor serving in Iraq sees heroes nearly every day

...I met the first of many heroes on the night of the Bradley incident. The courage and sacrifice of this soldier is not isolated. It is the norm here, a daily occurrence. What I have witnessed has profoundly affected me. I was completely unprepared for this.

Why had I never heard these stories at home? As a physician in a stateside military hospital, certainly I should have heard these stories, but either I had not listened or, more likely, they were not told. The news that I was accustomed to at home seems but a shell of what I see before me.

Every day, I meet ordinary men and women displaying profound compassion for each other and doing extraordinary things. I cared for a Marine who dived onto an enemy grenade, shielding his men from the blast and saving their lives. He lost his hand, took multiple shrapnel wounds and was in critical condition, yet all he wanted to know was how his comrades were doing.

I spoke with another Marine who stayed on patrol during the Iraqi constitutional election, instead of seeking medical attention for a gunshot wound in his arm inflicted two days earlier. When I asked him why he had delayed medical attention, he said the election was the next day, he had a job to do and he would not let his men down. His arm could wait.

Before I deployed to Iraq, I opened the paper, and saw little of these heroic acts. Where are the front page stories on my fellow soldiers and Marines?

I wish the public and our policymakers could look into the eyes of these soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines and see what I see: hope and commitment. I see it every day. They have burning hope behind their eyes, deep compassion in their hearts and a steadfast belief that each one is making a difference.

As I celebrate the holiday season here in Iraq, I am filled with a great sense of wonder and appreciation for what our men and women in uniform have volunteered to do.

They have answered the call of their country, and they have served with dignity, pride and honor.

It has been a tremendous privilege for me to be able to care for these true American heroes. This holiday season, I do not need to watch It's A Wonderful Life, for I have come face to face with many George Baileys.

Dr. James S. Eadie is a captain in the Air Force. He is a Harvard Medical School-trained emergency physician stationed at Wilford Hall Medical Center, San Antonio, and currently deployed to 332d Expeditionary Aeromedical Evacuation Flight, Balad Air Base, Iraq. The opinions expressed are his own.

362 Mike

There is no force on Earth that could get me to a mall today.

Re:Tofu

I have a theory that tofu is the reason for decreasing democratic birth rates except for minority dems(birth rate actually rising).

Republicans have normal birth rates.

The difference-TOFU

Steyn

...Here's a story from Friday's Japan Times:

''Japan's population has started shrinking for the first time this year, health ministry data showed Thursday, presenting the government with pressing challenges on the social and economic front, including ensuring provision of social security services and securing the labor force.''

Happy New Year, guys! And, as the reporter adds, ''Japan joins Germany and Italy in the ranks of countries where a decline in population has already set in.'' And don't forget Russia, which is even further ahead in the demographic death spiral. Of the great powers of the 20th century, America's still healthy birth rate, like its still healthy Christianity, is now an anomaly.

Demography is not necessarily destiny. Today's high Muslim birth rates will fall, and probably fall dramatically, as the Roman Catholic birth rates in Italy, Ireland and Quebec have. But demographics is a game of last man standing. It's no consolation that Muslim birth rates will be as bad as yours in 2050 if yours are off the cliff right now. The last people around in any numbers will determine the kind of society we live in.

You can sort of feel that happening already. ''Multiculturalism'' implicitly accepts that, for a person of broadly Christian heritage, Christianity is an accessory, an option; whereas, for a person of Muslim background, Islam is a given. That's why, as practiced by Buckinghamshire County Council in England, multiculturalism means All Saints Church can't put up one sheet of paper announcing its Christmas carol service on the High Wycombe Library notice board, but, inside the library, Rehana Nazir, the ''multicultural services librarian,'' can host a party to celebrate Eid.

To those of us watching Europe from afar, it seems amazing that no Continental politician is willing to get to grips with the real crisis facing Europe in the 21st century: the lack of Europeans. If America believes in the separation of church and state, in radically secularist Europe the state is the church, as Jacques Chirac's ban on head scarves, crucifixes and skull caps made plain. Alas, it's an insufficient faith.

By contrast, if Christianity is merely a ''myth,'' it's truly an immaculately conceived one, beginning with the decision to establish Christ's divinity in the miracle of his birth. The obligation to have children may be a lot of repressive Catholic mumbo-jumbo, but it's also highly rational. What's irrational is modern Eutopia's indifference to new life.

A year or so back, I had a conversation with an European Union official who, apropos a controversial proposal to tout the Continent's religious heritage in the new constitution, kept using the phrase ''Europe's post-Christian future.'' He used the phrase approvingly. But the evidence suggests that, once you reach the post-Christian stage, you don't have much of a future. Luke, a man of faith and a man of science, could have told them that.

Falling birth rates not just a problem in Europe

Saudi Arabia applies a strict form of Islam, which includes also meting out the death penalty for murder, rape, apostasy, armed robbery and drug trafficking, and cutting hands for theft. Public flogging and stoning to death are the penalties for extramarital sexual relations.

"Strict form of islam"? Show me the moderate one. Oh, and the fair one, too. Please. How will we ever win this fight when so many don't even understand the ideology that has declared war against us?

# 7 zombie:

Excellent post.

# 17 jakester:

There is no moral relativism, it's a great example of tribal justice that is only 1000 years out of date, 'cept in Islamdom

"Tribal justice." Exactly. Shari'a codifies tribal justice.

OT...Palestinians prepare new, high explosive warheads for Qassam missiles...

[Link: www.debka.com...]

OT... Meanwhile, IDF mulls/mulls response to rockets...

[Link: www.israelnn.com...]

Stop mulling, time for action, wipe rocket factories off the face of the planet.

More Steyn in today's Washington Times.

...You'll recall that, immediately after the tsunami, Jan Egeland, the Norwegian bureaucrat and big U.N. humanitarian honcho, gave a press conference attacking the "stinginess" of wealthy nations, like the Great Satan. Given that, at that moment, Mr. Egeland's vast, permanent 24/7 "humanitarian relief" bureaucracy was focusing on giving press conferences in New York, while the only actual "relief effort" was conducted ad hoc by the Pentagon and the Royal Australian Navy, his remarks seemed a little churlish, to say the least.
But the trick when something unexpected happens is to make it fit with your general theory. Thus, if you're one of those wacky cultists worshipping at the Church of Global Warming, the tsunami obviously has something to do with America not signing the Kyoto Treaty. Likewise, if you're Mr. Egeland, the point of the tsunami is to emphasize his own indispensability. A bunch of Yanks and Aussies saving lives and restoring water is no use to him unless they do so under his agency's aegis.
But even folks who aren't on the Turtle Bay payroll have somehow bought into the curious proposition that helping people without going through the U.N. bureaucracy -- saving lives unilaterally, so to speak -- is illegitimate. So Mr. Egeland and the like-minded got their way: Billions and billions of dollars were contributed to tsunami relief. And what happened to it? A year later, of the 1.8 million left homeless, only 20 percent have been rehoused. The rest are still in temporary shelters.
Well, OK, but what about their communities' economic revitalization? If you go to the South Indian coast near the town of Nagapattinam, you'll see a fleet of brand-new fishing boats sitting on the beach. A Western charity had them built and delivered. But they've never been used because they're not seaworthy, having only two skins of fiberglass.
In Sumatra, relief agencies gave interest-free loans to boatbuilders to replace the region's lost vessels: The replacement skiffs now sit unsold in Indonesian boatyards because nobody thought to also give interest-free loans to the fishermen, who can't afford to buy the new skiffs.
I don't pretend to be an expert in the Indonesian fishing industry. I pretend to be an expert in Islamic terrorism and U.S. foreign policy and a bunch of other stuff, and believe me that's hard enough without trying to feign expertise in the watery economy of Banda Aceh.
So who ought to be the experts? Well, how about Jan Egeland and his U.N. staff? These guys get full-time salaries to think about nothing but international disaster relief, and yet the best they can do when disaster strikes is stand in front of a camera in New York and announce they're sending someone to the region for an "assessment" of the "situation," just as soon as the U.S. Air Force emergency team have flown in and restored room service to the five-star hotel.
It was obvious at the time that Western TV viewers had donated more money than could ever be usefully spent. Even so, it's fascinating to learn quite the multitude of ways in which the dough was squandered. Hitherto somnolent bureaucracies cranked themselves into action for lean mean Tsunami shakedown operations. Oxfam paid the best part of a million bucks to Sri Lankan customs for the privilege of having 25 four-wheel-drive vehicles allowed into the country to get aid out to remote villages on washed-out roads hit by the Boxing Day tsunami. Your charitable donations at work, folks. ...

Waiting for real aid

Saudi Arabia applies a strict form of Islam, which includes also meting out the death penalty for murder, rape, apostasy, armed robbery and drug trafficking, and cutting hands for theft. Public flogging and stoning to death are the penalties for extramarital sexual relations.

As I write this the local NPR affiliate is broadcasting an interview with the editor of either Harpers Magazine or Harpers Bazaar, I can't tell which. This pompous fool is saying that we have a "criminal regime" in the White House, that the US is no longer a democracy and stands for torture and oppression. To this member of our "intellectual elite" the United States is the problem.

Our biggest problem is our own left wing. They are so clueless they endanger all of us.

Once were warriors:
Why Islam failed Muslims
[Link: www.faithfreedom.org...]

'Mother of All Bombs' Designer Dies at 67

OT...

Stupid f*ers at First Post still reporting that UMass-Dartmout Little Red Book story as if it actually happened.

I already sent them a nasty e-mail.

1. #62 Mike C. and #65 TS

I've actually already been to the Mall and back. They forgot to take the security tag off an item so I just ducked in 15 minutes after opening time, got it taken care of at the first counter, and left. I think I was the only male in the Mall not on payroll.

2. Hey Mike C., I thought I read where you said you played mountain dulcimer at some point? So do I. I have 5 made of different woods for different tones. I love that instrument.

3. Bears beat the Packers to win a real bad division. It's like being the tallest midget in the room. Favre throws 4 picks, changes name to "Lotto". :)

4. Sorry about the Vikings Dubluv and MTNester. I assume the Meathead might want to put a real estate agent on call in the near future.

5. Hey JammieWearingFool. I missed the scores, how did your Giants do?

6. For any trolls still not sure why Lizards see Islam as a major threat to our cultures and countries, just read the above article on this thread. That should settle any questions you have if you are sane.

#49 looking closely

By far the best thing the USA can do to end Saudi barbarism is to divest ourselves from petroleum.

Wouldn't help a bit. Oil is a commodity, doesn't matter where it comes from. Think of it as all the producers pouring their oil into the top of one big tank and all the users taking from the bottom.

The only way to reduce the KSA oil income is to convert the entire world to some other energy source. THe only one that is even possible is nuclear and even the U.S. is reducing the amount of nuclear it uses, not increasing it.

#75 3 wood

That should settle any questions you have if you are sane.

Um, just on that premise, I'm sure there'll still be plenty of questions. :-)

If this guy converts to islam before the punishment is carried out, does he immediately get exculpated?

# 75 3 wood

I have one mountain dulcimer, with a walnut body but the all-important spruce top. Made locally, of course, and very well made, if I do say so myself. Bought it 6 or so years ago, after picking through all the fancy-smanzy ones the guy made for wall decorations. After I bought it, he told me I had picked the best-sounding one he currently had available. A whopping $ 125. Compare that to the price of a decent banjo these days. Woof ! On the other hand, a decent banjo (or any of a number of other instruments) should last a couple of lifetimes, so the price isn't really that extreme. My Fender banjo (not the current crap with that name, the no-longer-made model originally produced by the American Banjo Company - Fender bought them) cost me $ 300, IIRC. A comprable instrument today would be at least $ 1500.

But, to say I 'play' the dulcimer is gross exaggeration. Rather say I play at the dulcimer.

Saudi Arabia applies a strict form of Islam...

What they meant to say is "Saudi Arabia applies a barbaric form of Islam..." Wahhabism, the Saudi state version of Islam, is one of the intellectual sources for Islamofascism, and it's past time the press is honest about this.

#80 anthony

barbaric form of Islam

That's redundant.

Goodness, they do take "an eye for an eye" literally, don't they.

No wonder they are so blind. They keep taking each other's eyes out.

#51 Mike, google E-85 and Brazil biomass fuels. 85% ethanol costs $1.49 a gallon in Hoplinsville, Ky while regular was $1.99 a gallon. If that's not an alternate fuel then what is? The plant cost less than $40 million and less than two years to build. Biomass fuels produce zero CO2 and are totally renewable. Where's the environmental Nazis? According to web sites the majority of fuels in Brazil are biomass. Can anyone from Brazil confirm that for me?

#83 Miles

Interesting chemistry there,how can an organic molecule produce 0% CO2 when combusted?

My organic chem prof always said any organic molecule containing carbon produces CO2 when combusted.

The formula for ETOH is C2H5OH,admittedly much lower than gasoline (C7H7 or C8H8) but still contains carbon.

# 83 Miles

The problem is that the energy balance (how much energy you derive from the fuel minus how much energy it takes to produce it) for ethanol is somewhere between zero and negative. The same is apparently true for biodiesel, and is most certainly true for hydrogen. The energy balance in Brazil for ethanol is probably actually positive, although not greatly so. Nothing like having armies of peasants to do things we use tractors for here ! Now you could clearly fuel cars off of hydrogen as an environmental step, but you would have to have the energy to produce the hydrogen, because you're going to get less energy out of it than it took to make it. That's thermodynamics for you. If we had a huge program to build nuclear power plants, perhaps we could afford that step, although running light vehicles directly on electricity might be a more sensible alternative in that case.

Just another day in the life of a f@%ke'd up country.

#79 Mike C.

I have found walnut to be the single best wood for mountain dulcimer tone. I have one with a spruce top, but the wood keeps cracking cause it is so thin. I also have a dulcimer with the banjo head, I think some would call it a "banjimer". The wife and I play for a lot of retirement homes and churches as volunteers, and the banjimer provides a nice variety and taste of the banjo sound on tunes like Liberty, 8th of January and the like.

Funny side story. The other night we were playing at a church for Christmas Eve service. They had us start earlier than planned and we got through our prepared set a few minutes early. We stiched to an old fiddle tune called "Whiskey Before Breakfast", but we slowed it down to waltz time. Afterwards people came up and said how much they liked the last tune and asked what it was. We said it was the "Christmas Waltz". They asked us to come back and play for Easter service and make sure to play the Christmas Waltz then too.

#77 flip flop

Alas, you are probably right.

It is carbon monoxide CO we want to avoid. Carbon dioxide CO₂ is incredibly friendly to the environment. Without it the rain forests would simply disappear.

3 wood:

5. Hey JammieWearingFool. I missed the scores, how did your Giants do?

The NYG got whacked 35-20 Saturday. Will Allen got burned by Santana Moss so many times they needed dental records to ID him after the game.

Washington is hot right now and will be a tough out in the playoffs.

NYG got into the playoffs by virtue of Minnesota's loss last night, and win the East with a victory at Oakland Saturday night. If they win that they're either a 3 or 4 seed and would likely host Carolina or Washington, no easy chore.

A major problem is they're down to four healthy LB's. I may go over for a tryout later today. My knees are a bit creaky but I can still play the run in the 4-3.

Is this new?...
HAMAS APPEALS TO KIDS ONLINE

In its current issue, The Conqueror (Hamas Kids magaize-ed) explains more ways – some old, some new – to fight the enemy. It also expresses the wish that Islam will once again rule over the region of Andalusia, better known today as Spain.

It's quite an interesting site if you'd like to visit...al-fateh
I guess you gotta start the future 'splodyddopes out young.

#88 roger

Carbon dioxide CO2 is incredibly friendly to the environment.

But--but--but--it's a greenhouse gas!

/algore

#83 Miles Caughey

85% ethanol costs $1.49 a gallon in Hoplinsville, Ky while regular was $1.99 a gallon. If that's not an alternate fuel then what is?

One that takes less energy to produced than it provides and one that doesn't get " incentives" from the government.

Ethanol is a farm support program, not an energy program.

#79 Mike C

One additional note on the mountain dulcimer. I've had the wonderful opportunity to study under such dulcimer experts as Steve Seifert, Larry Conger and Doug Felt (it those names mean anything to you). If you want to improve your technique, some day fit in a music festival somewhere in your schedule and take some work shops with people of that level. A week long work shop I had with Mr. Conger last year moved me forward light years in technique.

The victim here is a Indian muslim. Muslim scums in secular India have been vociferously demanding Sharia law to be followed for their community. Slimes conveniently want sharia justice so that they can practise polygamy but when they commit crimes like robbery,rape,drug peddling they want to be sentenced according to the indian penal code & constitution.

Kilgore Trout,

Someone on LGF once referred to the young ones as starter martyrs.

Seems to me they're running low on male adult recruits when you have women and children doing the deed.

Shifting gears: Just how f'ed up are things in a country when a store chain releases poison gas in a competing chain's store?

Coverage on FNC this morning regarding incidents in St. Petersburg Russia.

Never mind reality, let's insist on fantasy instead. All together now: Islam means Peace.

...and *when* did slavery end in SA?

(rhetorical...if you don't know, find out)

then ponder this...ever known some white folk that *still* after so many years of freedom think of black folk as "beneath them" (pick your own euphemism)?...

of course

Here's news for ya Princes, go ahead...gouge an eye out...we'll make it a shining example of your society's, your legal system's, and your culture of revenge's barbarism.

We could use some more motivation for the idiots on the left to destroy Iran's mullahs. You get lumped in with them for shit like this.

#97 daisy

But of course! Things are very peaceful after all the infidels are dead.

#85 Mike, I'm not no rocket scientist but do know that Max fuel sells E-85 ethanol for 50 cents cheaper than they do regular gas. I beleive $1.49 is about as cheap as any gas your going to find. Max Fuel is the cheapest family owned string of gas stations in Western Ky and I can gaurentee you they are not losing money on E-85.
I also know that farmers are the largest group of welfare recipients in the USA. 10% of the farmers recieve 90% of the transfer payments. In Kentucky farmers are paid 65 to 115 dollars an acre not to grow corn, winter wheat and soy beans.
In addition, North Korea and Iran need enriched Uranium to PEACEFULLY generate electricity. I believe our government has deactivated 5/6th of our nuclear weapons. Surely these radioactive warheads can be demilled in Poducah ,Ky to supply the nuclear fuel required to generate all the required electrical requirements our country faces. I've read Red China is building 1000 nuclear reactors. Red China is the country that even the Russians are complaining about their total disregaurd for the environment, especially npoluting the rivers that flow into Russia.
As for electric cars, I believe a car the size of a Chevy Cavalier can travel 150 miles at 55mph on one charging and could be sold for under 12000 dollars. Makes more sence to me than a converting water into Hydrogen and driving around with a mini Hindenburg Zepplin in your trunk.

Must just be a Rovian plot,no web sites except FoxNews even has mention of the gas attacks in Russia.

I guess that if it doesn't make the US or pres Bush look bad,it isn't news.

#95 JammieWearingFool
Check out the picture gallery on the hamas kids site...pics for sarter martyrs
yeesh!

Mystery gas,smelling of garlic,could it be mustard gas?

Totally Sirius

You mean besides these?
Gas capsules with timers found in Russian stores

Gas Sickens 78 in Russian Store

The newest summer fashion for Mrs. Splodeydope:

burqini

#100 Miles Caughey

As for electric cars, I believe a car the size of a Chevy Cavalier can travel 150 miles at 55mph on one charging and could be sold for under 12000 dollars.

And how do you produce the power to charge it? With natural gas the way most US power plants do? why not use the natural gas directly directly in the car?

Batteries and Hydrogen are NOT energy sources. They are energy storage devices. You still have to produce the energy with fossil fuels, water power or nuclear being the most reasonable.

#103 TotallySirius
Yeah, sounds like mustard gas

the name mustard gas became more widely used, because the impure "agent quality" is said to have an odour similar to that of mustard, garlic or horseradish. (8) When pure, it is in fact both odourless and colourless. (6)

Iraq in a civil war?
When shahids, usually Sunni, often Saudis, attack police targets, is it safe to assume the police are majority Shia usually working outside the southern Shia areas?

Figures the sort-of quiet would be broken by simultaneous attacks on police. The al-Qaeda signature, and designed to grab headlines.

#105 sean ii

"She wore a giant, ugly, hooded, shrouded yellow polka-dot burqini..."

Just the usual Russian practice of shakedown Russian gas attacks

#110 bonz

Like I said in my #96...how f'ed up does a country have to be before this stuff starts to happen?

#106 Mr Engineer, I aint be no engiiineer, but recon nuclear power is the way to go as I stated above. It's good for the LLL Fwench to power 50% plus of their countries needs. Hard coal with envirnomental scrubers are extremely clean as far as I'm concerned. I worked on the smoke stackes 13 stories high and have placed my face in the white steam bellowing out of the stack of Claiton Coke Works, Pittsburgh, PA and have not smelt anything, only felt moist air! On top of this the Democratic Governor of the state of Montana stated on the radio his coal gasification plant produces natural gas from coal at 25% of the cost of natural gas and can produce diesel from coal for under 1.00 dollar a gallon. The Nazis ran their war machine from 1944 to 1945 basically on coal derived petrolium productes. Yall tellying me we ain't no smarter than the Nazis 60 years later?

#89 Jammie

Sorry for the delay but Mrs. 3 wood called me to the breakfast table (I've already hit the Mall and the office and am home again). Well, at least the Giants made it although I think I can smell the scorching of your corner from here. Anything can happen in the playoffs though, a tipped pass here, a fumble there... You guys may have to play nickle packages all game though to protect your corners. And don't worry about your knee at the LB position. I doubt you ever could cover Moss on the post route anyway.
Butkus played the last 2 years of his career on one leg. Just focus on the A gap.

By the way, I think Favre just threw another interception.

And God Bless our troops.

Bush sought to quash newspaper stories

...Neither the New York Times nor the Washington Post would confirm their editors were summoned to the Oval Office in recent weeks, but sources told the Post it had happened. ...

Sources?

THe best thing to do is depopulate the whole Islamic sheethole, grab the oil and turn the sandbox into overflow parking for Israel and Turkey,

#104 J.D.

Glad to see someone besides Fox is on the ball.

Check ABC,NBC,pMSNBC,CNN,SeeBS, as of the time I posted, only Fox had the story.

# 93 3 wood

I do know the names. I just have absolutely no musical talent whatsoever. Which is going to make trying to learn to do anything with this bodhran interesting. As for scheduling workshops, hell - I'm lucky I was able to get home for Christmas.

By the way, I think Favre just threw another interception.

The real travesty is that Favre will get into Canton on the first vote.

#110 bonz

Could this have been a dry run to test the responses and equipment?

“This is the same substance that skunks secrete, that is found in faeces and is used by kids in stink bombs. It can make you gag or be sick, but it’s relatively harmless in small concentrations.

Whoever pulled this did not have to go to this effort to just cause a stink to upset trade of competitors.

Jheka, if you are up and about, do you have any thought on this situation?

#114 J.D.

Like moths to the flame. America gets a little more polarized. Most Americans will say, "well, why didn't you do it?"

I saw a statistic which shocked me last night. Allegedly, nearly half of New Yorkers think the "government knew about 9/11 before the attacks" and let it happen. Which would be sort-of true, minus critical details, if there hadn't been Gorelick's Wall against intel sharing. Amazing how insane many wealthy elites have become.

# 112 Miles

Coal gasification is a good idea, although not economically competitive with ordinary natural gas production at the moment (explaining the lack of gasification plants). It vastly reduces pollution from the alternative of burning coal, which also, BTW, releases a pretty hefty amount of radioactive material into the environment. Coal gasification pilot projects had their heyday during the mid-70s natural gas crisis, if you remember that one. The only problem is, then you need a lot more coal. Produced mostly by ripping the crap out of land that will be defended to the death by the enviro-nazis. TANSTASFL.

GCS Distributing has some great video tributes to our troops. Charles posted the "Until Then" tribute last year and it is a must see for those of you may have missed it.

The new "Still Here" video has a great message at the end.

Crap. Make that "TANSTAAFL".

#121 Mike

I know some out-of-work coal miners here in Ohio that would love five minutes alone with some enviro-nazis.

Sirius
Coal burning is a health hazard to both the miners and the people forced to breathe the fumes. Bravo for all the environmentailists! So let your miner friends rant all they want. Even oil is cleaner than coal.

#115 Jakester

That's disgusting.

I also know people who used to work for Dresser Industries(longwall mining equipment) and Marion Power Shovel(strip mining equipment-largest Earth mover ever built-now scrap metal) that would love five minutes with some enviro-nazis.

#126,
What, the parking idea?

#125 Jakester

So its OK for these people to starve or become a burden to the rest of us?

There are clean-coal technologies but the enviros still won't let it be used because it burns "evil coal".

#128 Jakester

The depopulate thing.

Jakester = Moby / moonbat, in consecutive posts. It's not convincing when you do both.

GOOD MORNING LIZARDS AND LIZARDESSES!

So Jakester,you advocate genocide in the ME and sentence ex-coal miners and all people involved in coal based industries to live in poverty.

Do you laugh at the handicapped and kick puppies also?

Top O'the 'mornin' to you,righty.

#134 TotallySirius

Morning! A bit dreary outside in Ohio today, eh?

MORNING AI!

#136 righty

Indeed an ugly day in Buckeyeland.

I knew it was nasty before getting out of bed,my sinus' were protesting.

Mrs.Sirius calls me the human barometer.

#138 TotallySirius

My sinuses are killing me too. :(

My, some people are getting up late today. :-)

#140 American Infidel

Russians do the darndest things sometimes.

#142 flipflop

Along with crappy sinuses, there's a wee bit of a head-ache problem that is likely due to much too much liquid Christmas cheer.

#84 Totally Sirus and the rest of the Lizards, PLease except my apologies for saying something as stupid as E-85 produces zero CO2 gas emmision. Everything produces something. One source said E-85 vehicles produce 39 to 49 % less CO2. That still is significant in my opinion. Just like the governor of Montana says he produces natural gas at 25% of the cost of natuaral gas by coal gasifications. What do I know? I just have to take them for their word. I do know that the coal burning power plant at the Clairton Coke Works in the 1970 to 1980s produced no noticable smells by sticking my nose in the white smoke (steam). I do know that I lived in Germany for three years, Italy for two, Korea for over two, and now Iraq and each one of these country's air was or is extremely polluted compared to Pittsburgh, PA or Pee Dee Ky! And, once again, E-85 is 50 cents a gallon cheaper than regular. Is their any Lizards out their who pays less than $1.49 a gallon?

Depopulate, we can move them to a more hospitable climate. Coal is the biggest polluter yet, even with clean burn technologies. I never said close all the mines, but I've scene whole valleys and mountains cut away for coal in PA, W VA & VA and it aint pretty. We can try conserving a bit, walk to McDonalds instead of driving your Escalade.

#117 Mike C.

I just have absolutely no musical talent whatsoever

Ditto, but that doesn't stop me.

#118 TS

I do think Favre deserves to be in the Hall when he is done (and he is done now). I'm just tired of the dang hero worship you see on TV by the announcers. While he has been a very good quarterback, I can say from watching him play from Chicago, without Ron Wolf building a great team around him in the early 90's he would not have achieved much. Look at this year. How is the Great Favre doing now? He's always thrown into double and triple coverage. It's just this year he's down 17 - 0 in the second quarter all the time so the ref's are not throwing the automatic pass interferance flag like they used to when the team was better. When they would drop the flag in the past, the corners would have to play looser, the slant would open up and then the scoring would start. Five years ago Antonio Freeman would come off the line in the first series every game, intentionally run into the corner and get a flag. And now the ref's actually let you sack Favre without throwing the roughing the passer flag every time you get near him. We used to think Favre should wear a skirt back there.

I noticed in the paper this morning it said Favre left the game with out talking to the reports. Funny, I remember how in years past when they would pound the Bears, Farve had all day to stand infront of the cameras and talk about how great he played and what a genius he was calling audibles. You'd have thought he would get a tan from the camera lights he stood there so long. Now that they are losing, I notice he's got nothing to say and all he's looking for is the exit. If you are going to run your mouth when things are going good Mr. Favre, you better stick around when you get pounded. The last year of Payton's career when he had slowed down so much he was getting caught from behind by defensive tackles and the Bears were getting clocked, he still stuck around after the games and took the heat. Payton always had class.

In short, yes, Favre has been one of the best of his time, but now he is old, slow and bad and its time for him to hit the door running. I am reminded of watching Willie Mays playing out the string with the Mets his last year, dropping easy fly balls and barely fouling the ball off at the plate.

#140 AI

Mercaptans are not very toxic but are not harmless,if that is what was used.

The only other natgas odorants,I know of,are sufides with a rotten egg smell.

Beagle,
are you talking about Moby the "musician"?

#145 Miles Caughey

And, once again, E-85 is 50 cents a gallon cheaper than regular.

No it is not. There is serious taxpayer money given to the producers of E-85. You are paying the extra cost in your taxes.

#147 3 wood

I agree Farve was a good quarterback in his heyday but he was not a consistantly outstanding qb.

IMO there are more deserving qbs that will never make it to the Hall because of,as you said:"media hero worship".

#150 American Infidel

"Though, this is all news to Americans because our media does not think it is at all important..."

If it doesn't make Bush look bad, they ain't interested.

#151 AI

Not arguing,just adding info.

#154 righty

see my #101

#156 American Infidel

"I know, the MSM's make me sick..."

Me too. The faux story about the college kid and Mao book is a recent fine example.

#157 TotallySirius

Heh.

Good morning, lizards! Happy day after Christmas...we are off to Long Island to take care of the 5 year old granddaughter, who was very helpful last night; she lit her Hanukkiah, and then tried to blow out the candles..how do you keep a straight face? The 3 1/2 year old has an electric one, Sammy the electric menorah,where a new bulb can be lit every night. It also plays a Hanukkah song...she is thrilled with it, and my son and daughter in law are trying to figure out a way to stop the music...being a grandparent is such fun! :)

Happy Hanukkah! Happy Boxing Day to anyone in a country that observes it! Be back tonight.

#159 rightymouse

Ugh...I had to e-mail The First Post (www.thefirstpost.co.uk) about that this morning...they're still reporting the story as if it actually happened.

Re:Russian gas attack

There is speculation that the attack was perpetrated by a competing store chain.

Imagine if Macys and Gimbles had resorted to this sort of competition.

I know they resorted to some underhanded tactics but nothing like this.

This is just plain thuggery.

161 NY Nana

Happy Hannukah!

#163 American Infidel

See link at #162. Story is bogus.

#159 righty
#163 AI

I wouldn't waste a squirt of piss on the Mao LRB story kid,if he was on fire!

#166 American Infidel

I loved that movie.

Speaking of movies, have you seen "The Christmas Story"?

#167 rightymouse

Another graduate of the Dan Rather school of imaginary journalism. But it's okay cause that's how they feel things are.

#168 TotallySirius

But..but..it makes Bush look bad. Idiots printed the story without even checking it out. Serves them right for looking like fools now.

#170 AI

Click "opinion." They're still reporting it, and it's expanded to being a trend. BS never stops traveling once it's launched.

#170 AI

Synopsis:

Some moonbat punk said he was turned away from a library because he asked for a copy of Mao's little red book.

The MSM jumped on the story lik a cheetah on a porterhouse steak.

The kid later recanted.

The MSM didn't

OT - "Well, Duh" Dept. : -

18:08 Dec-26-05 / 25 Kislev 5766

Terrorists Threaten With Alternative Border Crossing
Monday, December 26, 2005 / 25 Kislev 5766

(IsraelNN.com) Popular Resistance Committee terrorists are threatening to open an alternative border crossing in response to Israeli restrictions at Rafiah Crossing between southern Gaza and Egypt.

#170 American Infidel

Here ya go:

[Link: www.boston.com...]

#176 Tib

Aren't the secret tunnels big enough for the increased traffic?

#170 AI

See down stairs

linky

#170 AI

Sorry...click the Opinion tab.

Has anyone here seen the movie "A Christmas Story"? The one about the kid who wants a BB gun? I have a funny story to tell.

Happy Boxing Day to All Limey Lizardoids

#181 AI

It is a kid from Massachuesettes, isn't that COMMUNIST CENTRAL for America?!?

Yep,'Berzerkely East'

#182 - rightymouse -

Love that movie. Licking the frozen pole and shoot your eye out - classics.

#181 AmInf

C'mon, give 'em a break, Massachusetts voted in young Republican Governor Mitt Romney--who is pro-mosque surveillance.

Let's encourage Massachusetts towards the light, away from the geriatric, obese, Lurch-loving LLL abyss...

#185 karmic_inquisitor

The older boys bought the leg lamp for my husband for Christmas. It's identical to the one in the movie. Even came in a crate. LOL!

#182 rightymouse

We have it on DVD. Love that Chinese turkey.

"You'll shoot your eye out!"

#187 rightymouse
Is Mr. Rightymouse still walking the Earth? ;)

#186 Alegrias

The Kennedycrats are a pretty hard-headed bunch too.

#190 bonz

Mr. Rightymouse is still alive. Barely. :)

#189 3 wood

See #187 for what the older boys bought him for Christmas. It was hilarious.

#187 rightymouse

"The glow of electric sex"

"It's a major award"

"Fragile, must be Italian"

Part of the problem is that Boston,Martha's Vineyard and Hyannisport are all populated by Kennedy relatives(Longuyland,N.Y. also).

a strict form of Islam, which includes also meting out the death penalty for murder, rape,

Except where its a rape or murder of an infidel. Then you're supposed to brag about it to your friends.

#194 me

Make that "The soft glow of electric sex"

#193 rightymouse

How's that watch doing about now? :)

#194 3 wood

Har!
They even put the lamp in the front window despite my protestations.

#187 righty

Cool,I always wanted one of those,even since I first saw that flick,just to mess with the Mrs.,I'd only bring it out for the holidays though. (insert ornery chuckle here)

Where'd they find it?

3 wood,

#89 Jammie

Sorry for the delay but Mrs. 3 wood called me to the breakfast table (I've already hit the Mall and the office and am home again). Well, at least the Giants made it although I think I can smell the scorching of your corner from here. Anything can happen in the playoffs though, a tipped pass here, a fumble there... You guys may have to play nickle packages all game though to protect your corners. And don't worry about your knee at the LB position. I doubt you ever could cover Moss on the post route anyway.
Butkus played the last 2 years of his career on one leg. Just focus on the A gap.

By the way, I think Favre just threw another interception.

And God Bless our troops.

Breakfast also beckoned here.

The Giants had some breakdowns Saturday, but it's not the end of the world. It will help if they have a home game though in the first round; I like their chances better if they go to Seattle after that rather than Chicago. We'll see.

It's a shame seeing Favre playing like this. Never was a Packer fan, but I respect him. I think it's time for him to move on.

My favorite memory of him was off the field, on Bourbon Street after the Packers won SB XXXI. He paid his respect to the Patriots, and then proceeded to trash the Bears. The cheeseheads ate it up.

#198 3 wood

"How's that watch doing about now? :)"

I suppose I'm going to have to wear it even though I have always hated wearing watches. Don't want to hurt his wittle feelings.

#191 TotallySirius

KennedyCrats! Heh heh. These old obese geezers, or folks like Kerry who need remedial plastic surgery--remind me of Soviet geriatric Kremlin "dear leaders"--preserved in alcohol no doubt.

How can these pickled dinosaurs be considered the vanguard of Dem thinking? Old Republicans are well-seasoned, functional, vital, active--Rummy is still the lean, wily fighting/wresting machine he was in WWII, who knows who is our enemy is, having actively fought Nazis and Communists his whole life.

The latter day dems & Kennedys have only embraced communists & our enemies.

#200 TotallySirius

Here's a website. Not sure if it's the same one they bought it from, but looks plausible.

[Link: www.leglamps.com...]

#203 alegrias

Amen brother/sister

The friend of our enemy is also our enemy.

OT

Steve Hayes: Travels with Cheney

[I]t appears the Bush administration will continue to make the case aggressively that Americans are better off because of its conduct of national security policy, including the Iraq war.

That effort will likely include the release of documents and other materials captured in postwar Iraq. In recent weeks, senior Bush administration and intelligence officials have been discussing several plans to expedite the public release of those materials. According to officials familiar with their contents, the documents provide an unfiltered look inside a criminal regime that brutalized its own citizens, bought off numerous European politicians, and provided significant support to transregional terrorists.

Oh, won't this be lovely for the Dems who support Saddam and the insurgency Al Queda sabotage and terrorism by their actions and inactions.

When are we going to tar and feather Ramsey Clark?

#207 sms111

MSM will likely bury the story on page A20.

#204 righty

Ekkksssellent(best Montgomery Burns impression)

Thanks

She'll kill me but I'll die laughing my a$$ off.

#209 TotallySirius

"She'll kill me but I'll die laughing my a$$ off."

Whatever you do, don't buy it for her.

#203 alegrias

They're KennedyCrats because they worship everything he does,no matter how harmful to US interests,they'd even follow Kennedy off a bridge.

He could announce he was converting to satanism and they'd be drawing pentagrams and worshipping the dark one before suppertime.

#202 rightymouse

Closest thing I have to a famouse piece of movie memorabelia is a replica of the Maltese Falcon. I bring it out in my office at budget time. People ask what it is and I say "It's the stuff dreams are made of...just like your budget request" :)

Many years ago my late mother had a similar situation as you a la the watch. Mom went out the next business day and bought herself a mink stole. Dad never said a word, and never made a similar mistake. I always let Mrs. 3 wood pick out her own Christmas and birthday presents. It's a lot less risky that way. Every six months or so they have Irish night on QVC. I just tell her to get what ever she wants and I go to bed and she stays up all night shopping. Sure makes me a hero around the house, and it's a lot less expensive than getting a mink.

I've done a round-up blog post on the Mao-DHS lie which will never die.

The Boston Globe, James Carville, Molly Ivens, FirstPost, Ted Kennedy, Kos, DU, and many other people / outlets should be stopping this thing. But they aren't. Says a great deal, IMO.

#212 3 wood

"I always let Mrs. 3 wood pick out her own Christmas and birthday presents. It's a lot less risky that way."

Good for you!

New thread up

#213 Beagle

They want the story to be true.

Look at this year. How is the Great Favre doing now? He's always thrown into double and triple coverage. It's just this year he's down 17 - 0 in the second quarter all the time so the ref's are not throwing the automatic pass interferance flag like they used to when the team was better.

Awesome. Brett bashing.

It's not just this year. I began to notice that Brett Farve made a lot of questionsable decisions and threw a lot of interceptions back in 2000 (the Packers were fixtures on MNF back then and I would always catch the last quarter).

He's been on some good teams since the 97' Packers but he's never been able to take them to that next level. So it's not necessarily his supporting cast.

I've often wondered how many of Brett Farve's swashbuckling fourth quarter comebacks would have even been neccessary had he not thrown 3 interceptions earlier in those games. That's a question the sycophantic "Brett is God" media types never ask.

Maybe using the advanced technology of Islamist science, they can replace it with a bionic one.

Oh, I forgot, they don't design and manufacture such high tech things in that part of the world.

Can they manage to make pinhole cameras?