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Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 9:53:39 am PST

One of the most popular comedians in France is Dieudonné—an antisemitic, hate-spewing lunatic fond of dressing up in Nazi uniforms.

When the curtain rises, he is greeted with roars and whoops by a packed, multi-racial audience, which is young, trendy, intellectual and left-wing. Many of them have come straight from the latest demonstration against the government’s new jobs law for the young.

Much of Dieudonné’s show - “Le Depot du Bilan” (The Bankruptcy) - is surreally funny. ...

All through the show, however, something else intrudes, something darker and more sinister. Dieudonné is obsessed with Jews. All races, even his own mixed black and white origins, get a gentle mickey-taking in his show. When Jews are mentioned - and they are mentioned over and over again - the tone becomes more aggressive, even violent.

In one skit, Bernard-Henri Lévy, the Jewish-French philosopher, haggles with a street potato seller. Dieudonné/Lévy says: “How can you ask me to pay so much when six million of us died in the Holocaust?” Roars of delight from the audience. There is also a Hitler-in-his-bunker sketch which is moderately funny until the closing line: “You will see, in the future, people will come to realise that I, Adolf Hitler, was really a moderate.” ...

Dieudonné proceeds by the kind of nudge-nudge, coded provocation that has long been the stock in trade of the anti-Semitic far right in France. He had been prosecuted 17 times for inciting racial hatred, or denying the Holocaust, but had won every case before his recent condemnation. If you put a few of his comments together, however, the Dieudonné message becomes pretty clear.

On Beur FM, a radio station directed at young people of North African origin, he said in March last year: “In my children’s school books, I ripped out the pages on the Shoah. I will continue to do so as long as our pain is not recognised.”

In December 2003, he appeared on a French chat and comedy show dressed as an Israeli West Bank colonist and ended his skit with a Nazi salute and shouted: “Israel-heil”. In his statement announcing his intention to run for the presidency, he launched an attack on the French Jewish association CRIF (Conseil Représentatif des Institutions Juives de France). It was, he said, a “Zionist organisation of the extreme right that gathers all our leaders at the beginning of the year to share with them a roadmap or an agenda for the year ahead”.

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1 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 7:54:40am

Hillarious.

2 Chicken Kiev  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 7:54:48am

Oh the laughs! The riotous laughs!

3 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 7:56:15am
There is also a Hitler-in-his-bunker sketch which is moderately funny until the closing line: “You will see, in the future, people will come to realise that I, Adolf Hitler, was really a moderate.”

Just like the "moderate" Muslims!

I hope his dressing room has a nice shower...

4 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 7:58:16am
“How can you ask me to pay so much when six million of us died in the Holocaust?” Roars of delight from the audience.

That's so witty. Just brilliant. European humor is so much more intellectual than American humor...

5 ferris  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 7:59:18am
Dieudonné proceeds by the kind of nudge-nudge, coded provocation that has long been the stock in trade of the anti-Semitic far right in France.

What's 'nudge-nudge, coded' about any of this crap? What the hell would palin spoken Antisemitism look like?

I hope they enjoy life under their new Islamic overlords. My fear is they will enjoy all too much.

6 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 7:59:24am

I'm sure Herr Hitler had a warm spot in his heart for mixed race Frenchmen...

7 locutus  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 7:59:47am

Looks like a kid I knew in high school.

Except for the Nazi uniform.

8 religion of bacon  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:00:12am

OMG, he's a dead ringer for Ralphus, from the movie Bloodsucking Freaks.

9 mama winger  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:00:17am

That's so funny I forgot to laugh.

/ channeling Gilda Radner as Lisa Luebner

10 Chicken Kiev  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:00:40am

After being convicted of hate speech in a French court in 2004, Dieudonne (whose name means "God-given") appealed the conviction, saying this:

It's all those slave traders reconverted in the bank, entertainment and today terrorist activity [of those] who support Ariel Sharon's policy. Those that are attacking me have built empires and fortunes thanks to slavery and black slave trade. They're accusing me of being anti-Semitic, this is pointless, nobody in my family served in the Wehrmacht but it's Israel that financed the apartheid and projects of final solution. (...) I'm not trying to be a victim, but when a bomb is launched on my audience, nobody gives a damn because I'm not part of the dominant community.

11 daughter of patriots  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:01:02am

Springtime for Hitler ha, ha, hilarious? This guy is no Mel Brooks.

Wake up, Fwance.

12 maddog44  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:01:04am

Thats one sick SOB. That includes his audience.

13 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:01:45am

I know Bigel is over the top, and his desires to have Israel nuke Europe are a bit extreme, but it is kind of spooky how right he is about the Yurpians.


He is quite right about Jews in France, a casually antisemitic native population, and a rabidly antisemitic immigrant population that looks to become the majority in a few decades, France is probably not a good place to live.

14 Chicken Kiev  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:02:49am

Dieudonne appeared at the International Axis for Peace conference:

French comedian and militant Dieudonné Mbala Mbala participated in the international conference Axis for Peace, organized by Voltaire Network on November 17 and 18, 2005, in Brussels. Regarding the media coverage of the violence in the French suburbs and the image that the media portrays of black or Muslim people he said: “Today, there is a generalized racism, a liberated racist speech that goes beyond what the extreme right dared to say a few years ago. The colonialism that affects the Palestinian people has resulted in a racist speech without any complexes in Zionist media that can be found in today’s ‘communitarian’ treatment”. ... There is not much left to expect from leftist movements that have given in to the Zionist lobby.”

15 mommydoc  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:03:06am

Disgusting. But I would expect nothing less of the French.

[Link: www.invadefrance.us...]

16 Carl B  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:03:46am

I thought the Left is supposed to be tolerant and abhor such racist hatred. This growing alliance between leftist "peace lovers" and islamist/neo-nazi/anti-American/anti-semites is quite disturbing.

17 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:05:02am

Sickness.

young, trendy, intellectual, and left-wing

and all soft and rotten on the inside.

Disgusting.

18 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:06:24am

Does he also hang loose?

19 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:06:29am
Dieudonné is obsessed with Jews. All races, even his own mixed black and white origins, get a gentle mickey-taking in his show. When Jews are mentioned - and they are mentioned over and over again - the tone becomes more aggressive, even violent.

Sounds like my moonbat father-in-law, who worships Hillary and the rest of the LLL brownshirts.

20 'Nam Grunt  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:06:51am

Not much has changed in fwance since nappy met his Waterloo!

21 pork rinds for allah  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:07:18am

the french deserve him...

22 Dhimmipower  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:08:55am

France and europe continues with its policy of appeasement of Islam and the majority of leftists enable Islamic racism. The point is to acknowledge that hatred is now a creature of the Left not the right.

Perhaps, in a New Testament parable the evil spirits have indeed passed from the afflicted people into the swine? So mayhaps has Jew hatred passed into these Islamis?

23 Chicken Kiev  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:09:26am

Peacepalestine.com tells us that Dieudonne is running for president of France. His platform seems to be founded on hating Israel, loving Hugo Chavez and denying the Holocaust. From his very long and detailed and seemingly serious January 2006 campaign statement:

Among all the experiences and the alternatives that are available to us to resist this neo-conservatism, so overwhelming and pervasive, one shines like a beacon of light: the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela and Hugo Chávez, its president.

If the current situation and Israel's unchecked colonization moves, does not change drastically, there can only be one dire consequence: the perpetuation of the war and the whole region catching fire. Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims should not have to pay with their lives for the neo-cons’ delirious delusions.

France must become the Venezuela of Europe...

I have proposed the repeal of all French laws that try to deal with history in a dogmatic way, as well as those that prohibit the debate on certain questions. The first of four laws in this category, the Law Gayssot of 1990 [that prevents the discussion on the magnitude of the Jewish holocaust during the Second World War, Note of the translator] is a model of dictatorship.

24 jehu  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:10:26am

Fine...the nation God seeks to judge, first becomes anti- (I will not say semitic, cause Arabs are semitic) Jewish.

And France is Germany 1929 right now. Only difference is it will happen faster this time. Note to all Jews in France: Get out now!

25 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:10:50am

He has an "official" web site here.

26 WriterMom  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:12:04am

He was also fined recently for his schtick...

27 KevinV  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:12:07am

Don't forget how much more sophisticated and intelligent the French are than you!

You know, back in Nov 2004 I was at Disneyland Paris with my wife and there were these packs of young French guys roaming around and acting like children and my wife said "I can't believe these people think we're shallow idiots. Look at these clowns!"

28 Spiritualized  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:12:27am
dressed as an Israeli West Bank colonist

Colonist? And they all wear a uniform do they?

How ironic that this article is from al-Independent, the 2nd most anti-semitic mainstream paper in the UK after al-Guardian.

29 Chicken Kiev  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:12:56am

In an op-ed, Dieudonne officially congratulates Hamas!

Hamas gained a great victory with the Palestinian legislative elections and I make a point of addressing my more sincere congratulations to him. I greet the people Palestinian which knew democratically to express their will of resistance to the oppressor, right expressly recognized by the declaration of the rights of man. I form the wish which the Palestinian people can preserve his unit, guarantor of an announced victory, which will see the advent of a single Palestinian state, multiconfessionnel, in which Jewish, Moslem and Christian will live in peace with their neighbors.

Dieudonné Mbala Mbala
Candidate with the presidential election

30 Terp Mole  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:14:15am
31 funkyfantom  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:14:16am

This ignoramus sure doesn't know much about the ideology of the "Master Aryan Race".

His Nazi heros would have eventually tossed him and his fellow mixed-race people, and his left-wing buddies, into extermination camps.

I'm going to make sure and purge my apartment of anything French today.

32 toddhisattva  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:14:31am

Leftists are not intellectual.

Leftists are aintellectual.

(and I'm too disgusted to comment further)

33 KevinV  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:16:00am

OT - But not very.

You don't have to be an expert on things French to realize that this will be a VERY big deal in French politics over the next few weeks:

French President Jacques Chirac defended his eye-brow-raising exit from an EU summit session, accusing the French head of Europe's employer union of piquing French pride by daring to speak in English.

An ardent defender of the French tongue, Chirac said he had been "deeply shocked" to hear English on the lips of the Frenchman in a speech at the two-day European summit.

"I was deeply shocked that a Frenchman would speak at the council table in English," he told journalists, explaining for the first time his abrupt walkout when the summit opened on Thursday.

"That's the reason why the French delegation and myself left so as not to have to listen to that," he added.

Chirac's surprise exit was one of the few incidents to spice up an otherwise staid summit focused on agreeing a joint EU energy strategy and reviving the bloc's economy.

When Ernest-Antoine Seilliere, head of the UNICE employers federation, started his speech to the EU's 25 leaders, Chirac interrupted and asked why he was speaking in English, according to a French official.

"I'm going to speak in English because that is the language of business," replied Seilliere, former chief of the French employers' group MEDEF, which has been at odds with the government recently.

Raising eyebrows among his EU counterparts, Chirac stood up and left the session with Finance Minister Thierry Breton and Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy in tow.

Zut alors!

34 Zombie_Killian  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:19:31am

So...does Air France still advertise on here every now and then?

35 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:20:08am

DALLAS, Texas (AP) -- Young Hurricane Katrina refugees living in Texas scored considerably worse on a statewide standardized exam than Texas children, and thousands of them could be held back.

The Texas Assessment of Knowledge and Skills, a test of reading and math ability, was given in February to third- and fifth-graders, who must pass in order to move up to the next grade. About 38,000 Katrina evacuees are enrolled in Texas schools.

Only 58 percent of evacuees in third grade passed the reading portion, compared with 89 percent of all students. In fifth grade, 46 percent of evacuees passed the reading portion, versus 80 percent among all students.

"We've got kids who are coming into our secondary system and cannot read," Houston school board member Larry Marshall said. "Now that is a tragedy."

On an unrelated topic, Amid growing concern about the city's homicide rate and overburdened social services, a new poll finds Houstonians increasingly weary and wary of the 150,000 Louisiana evacuees who landed here after fleeing Hurricane Katrina.

People seem to be upset our rate of STDs and murders is up sharply since the New orleans people arrived.

36 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:20:57am

Surely such a talent must be blogging at DU, Kos or the HuffPost, no?

37 TalkinKamel  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:21:12am

#16 Carl B.

Remember the Hitler/Stalin pact, back in WWII?

The Left and the Right were quite happy to get along, till Hitler turned on his best-buddy-pal Stalin.

Let's face, it, they're both essentially the same. For both of them, it's all about power and controlling the masses.

38 mpax  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:22:07am

You can learn almost all you need to know about people from what makes them laugh.

39 Eddie Haskell  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:23:38am

And may God bless.

40 Miss Trixie  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:24:08am

This turd appeared in Montréal last year, IIRC, and I sent an email to the promoters asking why they think a jew-hating nazi supporter is comedy, and to consider cancelling his appearance.

Their reply was "Well, we've already booked him and can't waste all that money."

Turds, the lot of 'em.

Grrr.

41 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:24:31am

#38 mpax

This guy and Jerry Lewis. What the heck does that mean?

42 PDM  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:24:41am
“In my children’s school books, I ripped out the pages on the Shoah. I will continue to do so as long as our pain is not recognised.”

Investing in the future? Sick.

43 packsoldier  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:26:07am

I think I'll stick with Larry the Cable Guy, but thanks anyway. Git-R-Done!

44 American Infidel[deleted]  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:26:49am
45 Jheka  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:27:25am

Let me be plain about this. The United States, a nation with many, many flaws and shortcomings is, on the whole, a better nation than France. The American people are, on the whole, better than the French people.

You have a doubt? Well, let me ask you this: Is it conceivable that, in today's America (anywhere in today's America, much less in one of its great cities), a comic who was openly and virulently racist or anti-Semitic in the way that Dieudonné M'bala M'bala is and has been for years would be playing to packed houses? Would be wildly popular nationwide?

Is this conceivable? In today's America, it is not. This nation is better than that nation. Even our leftists, on the whole, are not so far gone as theirs.

46 Van Impe  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:27:42am

He's also a fan of OBL:

in French monthly L'Écho des savanes, he referred to Osama bin Laden as the "most important personality in contemporary history[, because he] stands alone against the biggest power in the world[. O]bviously, it calls for respect. I prefer bin Laden's charisma to that of George Bush".

from Wikipedia

47 Black George Bush  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:27:53am

Chinese firm to scan cargo. Hired to operate U.S. nuke detector, chairman tied to communist regime

Amid the recent Dubai ports controversy President Bush assured Congress port security remained under U.S. supervision, but the administration is raising concerns again with its decision to hire a Hong Kong firm linked to the communist Beijing regime to monitor nuclear materials that pass through the Bahamas to the United States and other countries.

The Bush administration acknowledged the deal will mark the first time the sophisticated U.S. detection equipment will be used at an overseas port by a foreign company without the presence of American customs agents.

48 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:28:11am

#33 KevinV

Raising eyebrows among his EU counterparts, Chirac stood up and left the session with Finance Minister Thierry Breton and Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy in tow.

Such infants are running a Nuclear Power.

49 Mike C.  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:30:04am

# 38 mpax

Um, I think it goes a bit deeper than that. I am from a solidly Irish background, and frankly, I collect Irish jokes. But then they're mostly these days not intended to be virulent. Just a play on cultural stereotypes. I've laughed my ass of at some jokes based on Jewish stereotypes (and others), too, but there was no virulance behind them. It's when there's a true mean streak behind them (as in this case) when there ceases to be any humor in the matter.

50 Murqtaad  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:30:10am

Put em in an oven... that would be real comedy.

51 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:30:11am

Damn he's ugly.

52 Terp Mole  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:31:29am

Elsewhere in France;

One killed as large blast rocks French university

MSM furiously searches for reasons to avoid suspicion of slodeydope religion.

In 2004, BBC reported Mullhouse (location of the blast) was the 1st instance of French school expulsion over the hijab.

53 G.W.  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:32:25am

I was reading comments on another blog in response to the Walt & Mearsheimmer study. One comment really opened my eyes. The commenter said: "We, in Israel, will manage, but American Jews are in for a rough ride".

I'll go futher and say: antisemitism will never again be so deadly as it was in the 20th century. Jews now (and forever) have a place to go.

The French seem poised to loose their Jewry. Who stands to loose from that?

--
G.W.

54 Terp Mole  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:34:44am

It appears today's French University explosion in Mullhouse is also the epicenter of rage over France's Islamic headscarf ban.

Coincidence? I think not.

55 Orbit Rain  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:34:46am
Dieudonné proceeds by the kind of nudge-nudge, coded provocation that has long been the stock in trade of the anti-Semitic far right in France.

...that would be the fascist far left...but then, I have to laugh at those who describe the world in just two dimensions...

So, the trendy French youth are racist...suprise suprise suprise...considering how out of touch and racist the generation preceding them are...

:-?

I am tired of ignorant racists...

56 maddog44  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:35:23am

48 Spiny Norman

"I'm going to speak in English because that is the language of business," replied Seilliere, former chief of the French employers' group MEDEF, which has been at odds with the government recently.

The guys right of course, even French Whores have to know English to do business. Chirac is just a French Whore playing to a different customer.

57 rabidfox  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:35:33am

Jheka: I honor your sentiments, but there are, unfortunately, parts of the US (eg. Berkley, Columbia, Yale, etc) where this type of thing could draw a huge crowd.

58 dustyroadguy  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:35:49am

#45 Jheka 3/24/2006 10:27AM PST

Louis Farrakhan every time he opens his mouth would fit that description easliy...
-- DRG --...†
;>P

59 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:35:59am

#45 Jheka

Even our leftists, on the whole, are not so far gone as theirs.

That's really hard to discern, because the media does such a meticulous job of hiding the worst ones. I'm going to guess that they're all the same, and a lot more interconnected than most of us realize. Our worst-of-the-worst are easily as bad as their worst-of-the-worst, but their avarage are probably worse than our average.

60 MrBill  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:36:15am

Jack Chirack is the poster child for Fwance's struggle to remain relevant.

He makes Inspector Clouseau look intelligent by comparison.

I fart in his general direction.

61 BPP  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:36:31am

33 KevinV

Tres amusant, cette histoire.

Seriously. Could you possibly get a more French story than that?

62 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:37:16am

Terp Mole

Well, to be fair, the article does say that it's a chemistry research building. I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude with this one.

63 Van Impe  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:37:47am

#45

Is it conceivable that, in today's America (anywhere in today's America, much less in one of its great cities), a comic who was openly and virulently racist or anti-Semitic in the way that Dieudonné M'bala M'bala is and has been for years would be playing to packed houses? Would be wildly popular nationwide?

Though I do recall that back in the 80's when he was briefly popular, Andrew "Dice" Clay used to refer to "piss colored" people in his act, apparently referring to Asians.

64 Murqtaad  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:38:24am

BPP,

Quit using my oxygen.

65 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:38:56am
In one skit, Bernard-Henri Lévy, the Jewish-French philosopher, haggles with a street potato seller. Dieudonné/Lévy says: “How can you ask me to pay so much when six million of us died in the Holocaust?” Roars of delight from the audience.

Well it's not Dave Chapelle's Wayne Brady skit. Perhaps I'm missing something.

66 Paul  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:39:58am
...he is greeted with roars and whoops by a multi-racial audience which is young, trendy, intellectual and left-wing.

...and Jew hating. It's the same old, same old in France, but being "young, trendy, intellectual and left-wing" makes it O.K.

67 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:41:07am

#45 Jheka

Let me be plain about this. The United States, a nation with many, many flaws and shortcomings is, on the whole, a better nation than France. The American people are, on the whole, better than the French people.

I have a friend named Lefebvre that would agree wholeheartedly.

To be fair, there is also a pro-American, libertarian element in the country, but they no political voice or influence; the ruling Parties have seen to that.

68 Zombie_Killian  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:42:19am

Wonder if Dieudonné has his own Les Guignols puppet...

Can't be any fuglier than the flesh and blood version.

69 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:44:02am

BGB- Well, now that Hong Kong is part of The Peoples Republic of China, I think its ok, for a Hong Kong company to scan our cargo for hidden nukes without American officials present, because possibly only the French care more about what is good for the USA than the PRC.

70 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:45:11am
Well it's not Dave Chapelle's Wayne Brady skit.

Meant to say "it's not as funny as Dave Chapelle's Wayne Brady skit."

That's what happens when you have three beers with lunch, kids.

71 Jheka  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:45:29am

#59 E2M:

the extremes will always be essentially indistinguishable. That's the mature of extremisms. the difference lies in what percentage are in that extreme group and how much the extremists have been able to penetrate the mainstream. Here, the anti-Semites still whisper. There, the bigots get a stage and a microphone and a packed, cheering audience.

72 Mary  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:46:18am

The French are so simple and small-minded.

#65 Dirk - how hilarious was that Chappelle Brady skit? Thanks for the reminder!

73 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:46:22am

I don't know about the explosion at the French chemistry college being splodeydope activity. I mean, chemistry can be dangerous, and you're talking the people that build Peugots, the nuclear aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle and the Concorde.

74 Terp Mole  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:48:29am
Ward Cleaver: Well, to be fair, the article does say that it's a chemistry research building. I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude with this one.

Well, to be fair, Ronald Reagan Intn'l airport is right down the road from the Pentagon. Did you take a wait-and-see attitude on 9/11?

I'm sorry but can you name the last time a University chemistry building just blew up spontaneously? There are small scale incidences all the time but nothing on this scale.

Here we have an earthshaking explosion at the very epicenter of Islamic headscarf ban rage.

I predict the usual suspects are involved.

75 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:49:12am

#63 Van Impe

Though I do recall that back in the 80's when he was briefly popular, Andrew "Dice" Clay used to refer to "piss colored" people in his act, apparently referring to Asians.

Wasn't "Dice" just an outrageous caricature performed by Andrew Clay Silverstein, and not his real attitude? Then again, years later, he also got into an on-air fight with Howard Stern...

76 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:50:56am

Mary,

"Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?"
77 KevinV  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:51:22am

Speaking of Chappelle, does anyone have the straight story of this whole "he walked off the set/went to South Africa/converted to Islam" thing? What's up with him?

78 Murqtaad  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:53:00am

Terp,

It was probably just a prank. 99.9% of all muslims are moderate, peace loving folk...

/

79 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:53:12am

"young, trendy, intellectual and left-wing"

"You think you're an intellectual, don't you, ape!?"

"Apes don't read philosophy."

"Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it."

channeling "A Fish Called Wanda."

80 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:53:34am

#65 DD

It's sad that Wayne Brady's not "black enough" for some people. I loved his stuff on Whose Line Is It Anyway?.

According to his IMDb bio, he originally planned to make the military his career.

/btw i'm not slamming you, just all those who make cracks about brady's personality

81 Murqtaad  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:53:40am

KevinV,

Chappelle is NUTS... and he is a muslim. He took the Shahada in '98!

82 Apu Pibat  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:53:42am

Meh. Fuck France and Fuck Europe.

It's obvious to me they only hate Hitler because he didn't finish the job.

83 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:55:39am

This and the mention of Larry the Cable guy made me think of the Redneck comedy show and Jeff Foxworthy, and that inspired me:

You might be an antisemite if:
you think Jews rule the world.

You might be an antisemtie if:
You're an editor of the NY Times.

You might be an antisemite if:
You're a real Muslim.

You might be an antisemite if:
You think this guy is funny.

OK, I'm not a comedian, but this is funnier than his stuff.

84 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:57:25am

The guy looks like Ice Cube.

85 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:58:03am
In my children’s school books, I ripped out the pages on the Shoah. I will continue to do so as long as our pain is not recognised.

"Our pain?" Who is he refering to?

86 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:58:06am

BPP

That should be "très amusante".

Please make a note of it.

87 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:59:05am

My favorite Andrew Dice Clay Nursery Ryhmes...

Rock-a-bye baby, on the tree top
Your mother's a whore,
And I ain't your pop.

Three blind mice, see how they run.
...Run? Where the fuck are they going?

Peter, Peter, pumpkin eater.
Whacked off in the movie theater.
Sprayed his load across the screen
And ruined Titanic’s final scene.

The rest are all NC-17 so I'll stop there. I always thought "The Diceman" was funny.

88 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 8:59:37am

Ecrasez l'Islam!

89 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:00:35am

I'm down with that, Cato. What's the cunning plan?

90 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:00:52am

#74 Terp

Yes, it is Mulhouse, but the head scarf expulsions were at the Louis-Armand, the Lavoisier schools, among others. High schools, not the university (your link). A little different from the direct evidence on 9/11.

91 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:01:37am

#71 Jheka

I completely agree. You could get an audience for that sort of thing in some Arian Nation enclave, but they'd be doing well to get a couple dozen attendees. More worrisome is the very real possibility that this guy's ilk may become fashionable at America's college campuses, particularly the ivy league. I can easily picture that becoming the next fad.

92 Van Impe  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:01:46am

#77
I saw Chappelle on Oprah, trying to explain why he fled to Africa. He explained that people he was working with kept telling him that he was crazy, implying that there was some sort of conspiracy against him (IMHO, if people who you are close to start telling you that you're crazy, you probably are). He also became uncomfortable with his popularity with "white" fans, believes they may be laughing for the wrong reasons. The pressure became too much for him and he skipped to Africa, without even telling his wife. The bottom line is that he's "nuts" but can't admit it

93 Murqtaad  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:02:16am

BD_VM,

Hes a fuckin muz, who you thought he was referrin to?

94 Murqtaad  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:04:31am

more proof that Chappelle is nuts is his conversion to satanism, er, islam in 98.

95 mj  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:05:59am

71 " Here, the anti-Semites still whisper. There, the bigots get a stage and a microphone and a packed, cheering audience."

Someone already mentioned Farrakhan.

Pat Buchanan is regularly on television and in newspapers.

And then there is Jimmy Carter, ex-President.

96 KevinV  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:05:59am

Van Impe -

You know, that's my impression as well, and, I have to admit, (this may be a character flaw of mine, I readily admit it) I have a hard time enjoying an artist's art if I know the artist holds views that I strongly object to.

On the other hand, he's much funnier than my home-boy Mencia, who grew up 10 minutes from my old place in east L.A. county. Sad, but true.

97 jewaii  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:06:00am

I wonder what the nazi's would have done with that gold tooth of his...

98 big L  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:07:06am

I am sick of this guy. too much publicity.
His ad says "prolongations". I 'd like to prolong my fist into his face. but that would not be Europeic, to coin a word.

Ever notice how much of our time/space/energy is taken up with scum-bags.
Some dumb, some murderous, all wearying.

It used to be Saddam crammed down our throats 24/7 by the press. Oops that p.o.s is behind bars.No saddam stories much any more.
But even the Saddam coverage we got was just a torment and had no news value as the news people were sell-outs.

99 Roger  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:07:12am

What's this Fwench youth jobs law that is showing up?

100 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:08:22am

Dirty nursery rhymes were not a Diceman invention.

Judge Dread was doing dirty nursery rhymes to a rock-steady beat 35 years ago>


I refer you to Big Six.

101 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:09:32am

#84 JWF

The guy looks like Ice Cube.

He reminds me of the Puerto Rican guy in the movie Ghost, that gets killed (gished by a car) and dragged down to hell.

102 Catttt  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:09:36am

Every once in a while, when I am slipping into complacency in re all matters Gallic, something like this comes along to remind me that "There is no hell. There is only France" (Frank Zappa).

103 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:10:38am

Godfrey:

Mock their assprophet till their heads explode!

104 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:11:02am
Judge Dread
Big Five lyrics
There was an old sailor, who sat on a rock,
Waving and shaking his big hairy...

Fist at the ladies next door in The Ritz,
Who taught all the children to play with their...

Ice-creams and marbles and all things galore,
Along comes a lady who looks like a...

Decent young woman, who walks like a duck,
She said she’s invented a new way to...

Bring up the children, to sew and to knit,
The boys in the stable are shovelling...

Litter and paper, from yesterday’s hunt,
And old dirty Dread is having some...

Cake in the parlour, and singing this song,
If you think it’s dirty, you’re bloody well wrong!

(Instrumental)

Susan was a nice girl, with plenty of class,
Who turned the boys’ heads when she wiggled her...

Eyes at the young boys, as girls sometimes do,
To make it quite plain she was ready to...

Go for a walk, or a stroll in the grass,
Then hurry back home for a nice piece of...

Chicken and ice-cream, and lots of roast duck,
And after this meal, she was ready to...

Go for a walk, or a stroll on the dock,
With any young boy with a sizeable...

Roll of big bills, and a pretty good front,
And if he talked softly, she’d show him her...

Little pet dog, who is subject to fits,
And maybe let him grab a hold of her...

Little white hand, with a moment so quick,
That she would lean over and tickle his...

Chin, while she showed what she once learned in France,
And ask the poor chap to take up his under...

Pants, while she sang of the wild Kneesdon shore,
Oh, whatever she was,

(Spoken)
She wasn’t a bad girl really, this Susan. I’ve had better, but mind you, she wasn’t THAT bad.

105 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:11:32am

#98 big L

Prolongations? Sounds like he has a little willie, and wishes it was bigger.

106 pegcity  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:14:36am

you know whats funny, the riots, the 5 million muslims who want to introduce shariah law, the fact that france will cease to exist in 20 years.

Now thats funny.

It's also funny the jews have somewhere to go.

107 Van Impe  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:15:02am

#96

Hopefully in a few years from now Chappelle will be able to look back on this period and laugh (and make us laugh) like Richard Pryor talking about his heart attack or burns. Right now Chappelle (based on his Oprah appearance) is taking it all seriously.

Confirmation that he's nuts: he told Oprah he wants to give his money to the poor, to Katrina survivors. Any time a celebrity starts talking about giving away money you know they're crazy!

108 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:15:42am

#99 Roger

What's this Fwench youth jobs law that is showing up?

It's quite revolutionary. Employers are allowed to terminate new employees with less than 2 years on the job. Despite what it sounds like, it will actually reduce unemployment at the entry level by removing a lot of the risk associated with hiring an unknown individual. Watch this to be successful beyond anyone's wildest expectations. Unless they manage to screw it up.

109 mkm19602000  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:15:46am

# 99 Roger

The would allow employers to shitcan someone within the first two years.(There is an age threshold,26 and below.) The Fwrench youts are upset they may have to show up for work and be productive for two years before their employed for life benefits kick in. It tough not being able to get away in the month of August leaving grammy and grampy to dehydrate and die in the city.

110 KevinV  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:15:52am

As for France itself, all I can say people is: don't judge an entire country by some of its worst people.

I've gone to school in France, lived in France, and I vacation in France every bloody chance I get and I can tell you for a fact that there are a LOT of good, decent, hard-working people there.

They are shut out of the political process and they are in many ways a French version of the "silent majority" that Nixon took so much heat for speaking of, yet they are there.

There is a sweetness, a certain style to the French way of life that I find very attractive, although I am well aware of its many negative qualities.

This has always been a paradox for me: I am a proud American and I believe in our economic and political system. Yet, at the same time, I must admit that I'd rather spend two weeks in Normandy than two weeks in Florida.

I've never been able to figure that out.

Wow, am I rambling. You know what that means?

Yup, I have a TON of work to do and I'm avoiding it. Damn.

111 Jheka  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:15:57am

#95 mj:

Buchanan is filth but he hasn't said anything openly anti-Semitic in years (although NBC should still be ashamed of themselves for giving him a platform).

Farrakhan has a strong cult following but he is also generally unpopular. Like Buchanan, he has been backpeddling from his anti-Semitism for years and, because of what he said many years ago, still can't get the time of day from the American mainstream.

Carter is a loathesome piece of work but his anti-Semitism is not overt and most of the population is not aware of it as the French are wrt Dieudonné.

i am not saying that we don't have anti-Semites. I am saying that the public does not, on the whole, support expressions of anti-Semitism and most other forms of bigotry.

112 maddog44  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:16:07am

Chappalle is done, but I do kind of like Carlos Mencia.

113 Celissa  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:16:16am

Sadly, this is not surprising. Nothing the French--or Europeans in general--stoop to in expressing their hatred and disdain for anything true or good doesn't even register anymore.

Isn't it time for a drink?


vodka...Kahluah...half-n-half...

Yeah, that makes the insanity a little more tolerable...

114 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:16:27am

Jack and Jill went up the hill
Both with a buck and a quarter.

Jill came down with two-fifty.

They didn't go up for water.

---

Little Miss Muffet sat on her tuffet
Eating her curds and whey.

Along came a spider, sat down beside her, said "hey, what's in the bowl, bitch?"

---

Little Boy Blue.

He needed the money.

115 Jheka  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:18:09am

#97 jewaii:

Given it to the Swiss for safe keeping, of course.

116 Mary  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:18:34am

Dirk - LMAO.

You better thank Dave Chapelle

I don't care about his religion, I don't care about him running off to Africa. He is hilarious.

KevinV
Time mag had a pretty good article on Chapelle and the past 2 years.

117 Catttt  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:19:11am

99 Roger

The new law, set to take effect in April, would allow employers to hire and fire people under 26 easily. They do not have to give cause to lay people off, under this law. It was intended to get employers to HIRE people under 26 more easily, with the proviso that they would not be saddled with the employees forever (due to the socialistic nanny-state jobs laws in France, it is hard to get rid of employees, and one result is that the unemployment numbers for young people is high).

It's sort of a band-aid applied to a bleeding artery, imho. Or even a band-aid applied to the elbow in response to a cut throat. I think the students are sissies, but I see why they are annoyed by this law.

118 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:19:34am

Cattt

"Slipping into complacency in all matters Gallic."

Does that mean putting on a French Maid outfit?

/work safe? you be the judge

119 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:21:20am

#93 Murq

I dunno. I though maybe he had a rat in his pocket or something.

120 Catttt  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:22:20am

109 mkm19602000

One small correction, if I may:

The Fwench youts are not upset by the law - the Fwench students are. The youts are just in it to infiltrate the crowd and steal cell phones and the like. :)

121 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:22:27am

How come everyone seems to slip into psychosis during an appearance on Oprah's show?

Tom Cruise's former agent deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. He masterfully kept a lid on Tom's mania for decades.

122 BulgarWheat  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:23:48am

This is really beginning to become un-f'ing believable!

The Fwench are truly lost.

Pox on the lot of them.

123 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:25:00am
You better thank Dave Chapelle

Wayne Brady: "Go on, Thank him."

Ho: "Thank you Dave, and I love your show."

Dave Chappelle: "RUN BITCH! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!"

124 Catttt  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:25:55am

118 godfrey

Personally, no, though if you like it, please feel free (hehehehe).

For me, it's more like toying with buying Gitanes and Edith Piaf DVDs, and maybe a beret for Spring. :)

125 Roger  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:26:27am

#117 Cattt, thanks! Looks like instead of solving things, it will get uglier.

126 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:26:33am
Tom Cruise's former agent deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. He masterfully kept a lid on Tom's mania for decades.

Hmmmph.

Make that "Tom Cruise's former agent deserves a Nobel Prize."

127 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:27:23am

#121 Dirk

Now you know why Dr. Phil got out when he could.

128 Roger  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:27:54am

Thanks to everybody who replied. I didn't scroll far enough to see them all at first.

129 Mary  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:28:44am
I've gone to school in France, lived in France, and I vacation in France every bloody chance I get and I can tell you for a fact that there are a LOT of good, decent, hard-working people there.

Kevin - they vote don't they? Next trip over wear your 'Nicholas Sarkozy' T shirt.

130 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:30:53am
Now you know why Dr. Phil got out when he could.

Never really cared for Dr. Phraud. Didn't he unethically refer the names of couples who came to him seeking marriage counseling to divorce lawyers?

131 KevinV  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:31:53am

# 129 - Mary

Oh, the type of people I'm talking about LOVE Sarko. He's their man. They are why he is popular.

If you'll recall, at the time of the riots the entire French establishment--left, right and center--went into hysterics over Sarkozy's remarks that what was needed was to vacuum up the scumbags and take care of them.

Little noticed in the heat of battle was that one month later, Sarkozy's standing in Presidential polls WENT UP rather dramtically.

Sarko is their man. He's not perfect. He's not the "American" his opponents say he is. And he shares some of the negative qualities of the French elite, no doubt.

But he would be a huge improvement over the current incumbent!

132 KevinV  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:34:59am

Mary -

More on Sarko:

Contrast the initial reactions of President Bush, PM Harper, PM Blair and other Western leaders to the Mohammed Cartoons controversy to Sarko's off-the-cuff response early on:

Freedom of expression is not an issue for negotiation and I see no reason to give one religion a special treatment.


That is just rock solid where it counts.

133 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:40:52am

#110 KevinV:


This has always been a paradox for me: I am a proud American and I believe in our economic and political system. Yet, at the same time, I must admit that I'd rather spend two weeks in Normandy than two weeks in Florida.


The last time *I* spent two weeks in Normandy, it was in June of 1944! The French were pretty goddamn happy to see me!

/rubs eyes, emerges from Grandpa Simpson state

Okay, maybe not. But I feel your pain, so to speak. I also have a lot of blue state tastes, but a red state heart, or something like that.

134 mkm19602000  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:41:13am

#120 Catt

Anyone under the age of 30 is a yout to me. The students are behaving no better than disaffected youts of fall car burning season, but I think bad behavior is endemic in Nanny State France. Spoiled youts of every stripe need to have there toys taken away and sent to bed without dinner. While a serious "Come to Jesus Meeting", which I experienced several times during my wayward days might before beneficial, they have been banned because they don't encourage self esteem and leave your butt red.

135 Mary  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:43:01am

Kevin - Yes, I knew that about Sarkozy's numbers post fall riots (we need to timeline them now); I fear that the majority of the French will not support him in the upcoming election. Dare to dream though.

Elitist, shi**y public servants are norm and desired in France.

Dirk - did you catch Chappelle on 'The Actor's Studio'? Worth a look see.

136 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:44:37am

Theodore Dalrymple on the French youts "riots for privilege":

The students are demonstrating for the continuation of their own protections and privileges once employed, as most of them soon will be. They do not wish employers to have the freedom to sack them, except at the cost of huge redundancy payments that the law currently grants them. Obliviously, of course, they are in effect also demonstrating for the continued segregation of the Arabs and the Africans.

137 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:48:40am

#133 O.R.

But I feel your pain, so to speak. I also have a lot of blue state tastes, but a red state heart, or something like that.

Same here. I love living in the city, even if I'm surrounded by LLL types. I've lived out in the country in a red, red state & would never go back again. I'd rather go to the theatre than to a NASCAR race, etc.

138 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:52:12am
I also have a lot of blue state tastes, but a red state heart, or something like that.

I know what you mean. I always order a longneck Bud with a wheatgrass chaser.

139 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:52:47am

Not.

140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:54:08am

#138 Godfrey

I know what you mean. I always order a longneck Bud with a wheatgrass chaser.

LOL. Wheatgrass juice always makes me think of the drink Homer Simpson created - Vodka & wheatgrass juice - he called it a "Lawnmower." I'll have to try one sometime. :)

141 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:56:20am

KevinV

Yet, at the same time, I must admit that I'd rather spend two weeks in Normandy than two weeks in Florida.

Have you been to Normandy? It's the Great Britain of the French culinary world.

Go to Marseille, where they at least understand the power of that magical bulb, garlic.

142 KevinV  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:56:49am

Whoa! WAAAY OT - but don't forget:

This Sunday's new Simpsons episode will feature an opening credits sequence filmed with live actors who won some U.K. contest about Simpson look-a-likes.

Can't wait to see a "real" Marge and Maggie in the car beeping their respecitive horns, or, for that matter, Homer running into his garage.

143 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:57:14am

beerdrinking

A "lawnmower"?!? ROFLMAO

*wiping eyes*

It is a thing of beauty, The Simpsons.

144 daledog  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:58:16am
Dieudonné is obsessed with Jews. All races, even his own mixed black and white origins, get a gentle mickey-taking in his show.

All races? Including those that typically practice islam? Not bloody likely.

145 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:58:59am
I also have a lot of blue state tastes, but a red state heart, or something like that.

So that means OR is both addicted to Jerry Lewis movies and loves to throw shoes at his image on TV.

Or something like that.

146 Beagle  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:59:01am

#73 Ed

people that build Peugots, the nuclear aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle and the Concorde


Renault F1, Dassault Rafale, and models.

147 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 9:59:02am

#137 BDVM:

Same here. I love living in the city, even if I'm surrounded by LLL types. I've lived out in the country in a red, red state & would never go back again.

At the same time, I was at a dinner last night at which I was BADLY missing my lizardoid pals, while having to bite down HARD on my tongue at all the LLL crap being spewed. (They were the girlfriend's friends, had to be polite.) Still, once the vegetarians and "vegans" all finished claiming their tofu crap from the buffet table, I asked the hostess if she any food made from animals that had suffered terribly before dying. "Dude, that's not cool!" gasped one young Birkenstock-wearer. Heh.

#138 godfrey;

I always order a longneck Bud with a wheatgrass chaser.

Then I can count on YOU to co-invest of my million-dollar idea of a pistol range/cappucino bar.

148 soccerdad  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:00:55am

Might be an old joke, but I just got it via email. seems appropriate to share on this Friday:

1- Go to [Link: www.google.com...]

2- Type in "french military victories", without the quotes

3- Instead of hitting "Search" hit "I'm feeling Lucky"

4- Tell your friends before the people at Google fix it

Absolutely hilarious.

149 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:01:16am

#73 Ed M.:

and the Concorde

I wouldn't throw the Concorde in with that other batch; it was a thing of beauty, way cool idea, and I'm still angry we Yanks haven't topped it. Plus, they have the TGV, and we have... ah, Amtrak. Grrr.

150 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:02:32am

OR

Only if you agree to Brazilian baristas who wear French maid outfits while frothing milk and whistling Dixie.

151 Apollyon  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:06:04am

I despise Phrance. While the islamofascists miscreants burn their cities down these spineless yellow-backed cowards sit idly by mocking Jews and spitting on America. I can’t wait for Phrance to become an Islamic state. The Phrench women better start shopping for burkas. Hell, the neutered men may as well get a burka too……Hopefully next time the US will not bail out these ingrates. Let them suffer the consequences of their decisions.

152 Dianna  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:08:41am

#147 Occasional Reader

Then I can count on YOU to co-invest of my million-dollar idea of a pistol range/cappucino bar.

That sounds like a huge improvement over vending-machine coffee!

153 Jheka  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:10:29am

You bunch of dirty pinkos!

154 Celissa  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:10:58am

142
Kevin you can see that video here if you would like a first look.

155 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:14:11am

#154 Celissa--

Marge driving a Volvo?! DOES NOT COMPUTE

156 Celissa  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:15:00am

I know! I'm always picturing a faded Crown Vic...

157 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:17:45am

#147 O.R.

Still, once the vegetarians and "vegans" all finished claiming their tofu crap from the buffet table, I asked the hostess if she any food made from animals that had suffered terribly before dying. "Dude, that's not cool!" gasped one young Birkenstock-wearer. Heh.

LOL. That reminds me of yet another Simpsons episode - Homer is cooking a BBQ (in the stands at a football game) & is offering the family their choice of meats. Lisa gets disgusted & asks "Is there anything there that wasn't cruelly slaughtered?" Homer replies "The veal may have died of loneliness."

158 bluebonnet  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:20:01am

The French do not know how to be funny.

159 KevinV  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:24:15am

Celissa -

Thanks for the link! I really enjoyed that.

One thing about the popularity of the Simpsons in Britain that has always puzzled me is how in the hell are they getting all the very-American cultural references?

Do they like it for a different reason than we do?

160 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:26:51am

#159 KevinV:

One thing about the popularity of the Simpsons in Britain

Forget Britain, what about their popularity in, say, Peru? I mean, the Brits more or less "get" us, comparatively speaking.

161 blogroll  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:30:43am

MMM... I am not even sure that Chris Rock could come up with something funny on this guy

162 golem akbar  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:37:53am

I think this guy is hilarious. No, really. I say let him do what he does, and loudly. I rarely get to see or hear any L³ -types try to use humor (okay, Bill Mahr, maybe). They are usually so dour and depressed. I hope the whole world starts to pay attention to the anti-semitism of Europe, and especially France. It's about time the left in America pay attention their European co-politicos and how they've strayed into the dangerous waters of racism and anti-semitism.

163 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:39:27am

jheka

"Dirty Pinko" sounds like a drink.

164 golem akbar  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:41:53am

#158 Bluebonnet

The French do not know how to be funny.

Not so. Check out Jacques Tati and his films. Which may prove that France's best days are very very over.

165 Lazarus  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:46:56am

#96 KevinV

...I have to admit, (this may be a character flaw of mine, I readily admit it) I have a hard time enjoying an artist's art if I know the artist holds views that I strongly object to.

Hell, that's the right attitude to have. It's nothing to be ashamed of, it's your mind telling you that you take your values seriously.

166 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:47:52am

Anyone here speak French? I'd really like to know what this article has to say.

The photographs show Mr.Dieudonne' and some ultra-moonbat orthodox Jews wearing Palestinian keffiyehs marching under images of Yasar Arafat.

WTF?

167 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:48:49am

#163 godfrey:

"Dirty Pinko" sounds like a drink.

It's Friday afternoon. Everything sounds like a drink.

168 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:51:27am

"Friday Afternoon." Sounds like a drink.

I'll have a "Friday Afternoon," please. Make it a double.

169 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:51:37am

#166 Ringo:

I'd really like to know what this article has to say.

Dieudonné joins rabbis in protesting against the [evil! apartheid!] wall, and against "Zionist ideology", calls attention to the suffering of the poor widdle Palis, etc. etc.

[in brief, summing up]

170 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:53:03am

OR

Do you know anything about a famous murder case in Italy around 1905? I'm off to hear a lecture about it, whatever it is.

Garlic and drinks afterwards.

171 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:53:24am

A "double"--that would be a good name for a drink.


(So would "Dieudonné", come to think of it. "Would you like to come back to my place for a nightcap? Perhaps a Dieudonné?")

172 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:54:39am

#170 godfrey:

Do you know anything about a famous murder case in Italy around 1905?

I don't have to answer that question. You've got NOTHING to pin this one on me.

173 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:54:56am

I'll say this for France: Maurice Chevalier was very good in Gigi and managed to make "I Remember It Well" a genuinely poignant number.

174 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:57:34am

OR

Damn you, another French thing I like: Dubonnet.

I don't like the direction this thread is taking.

Bloody murder in Italy is preferable.

I'll have a "Bloody Murder" please. Yes, of course Italian vermouth. We're not in f***ing San Francisco.

175 godfrey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 10:58:14am

/out

176 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:02:51am

OK, things to do tonight:
Make a "Lawnmower"
Invent the "Dirty Pinko," "Bloody Murder (with Italian vermouth) & "Friday Afternoon."

177 Celissa  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:03:33am
159 KevinV 3/24/2006 12:24PM PST

One thing about the popularity of the Simpsons in Britain that has always puzzled me is how in the hell are they getting all the very-American cultural references?

Do they like it for a different reason than we do?


Glad you enjoyed it.
As for the cultural references...
I'm not sure. I've always laughed myself stupid at Monty Python, but I have no idea who some of the people are that they mention (Eric Robinson?). I think some things are universal, and the small amount of absolutely American references can be researched (hello internet!) or just shrugged off on the way to the next laugh.

178 code red 21  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:11:26am

NOW I KNOW WHAT THE FACE OF EVIL LOOKS LIKE. FRANCE DESERVES EVERYTHING THE MUSLIMS THROW AT IT.

179 Peter Verkooijen  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:12:35am

It's becoming more and more clear that the "left" or "socialist tradition" is reverting to fascism and national socialism again, in the US as well as Europe - see the mainstreaming of 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Watch closely what happens around the edges though. I get the impression here in Brooklyn some well-meaning moderate "liberals" aren't so sure anymore where they stand.

Maybe it's wishfull thinking, but a lot of liberals could be on the verge of tipping over to a reasonable non-Democrat alternative if it presented itself, maybe even a moderate Republican like Giuiliani or McCain (personally I'm not a fan of McCain...).

Exposing the "left" is important. There is a silent majority paying attention.

180 Jheka  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:14:21am

"I'll have a face of evil with a splash of Dieudonné, please ... make it a double."

181 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:18:09am

Oh, just saw this quote:

"First and foremost I am a performer, a comic," [Dieudonné] said. "But I travel around France and around Africa and I see the great suffering caused by the power of money and ultra-capitalism

There's "ultra-capitalism" in France? Or in Africa? WHERE?

Would that it were so.

182 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:21:02am

#179 PV:

It's becoming more and more clear that the "left" or "socialist tradition" is reverting to fascism and national socialism again, in the US as well as Europe - see the mainstreaming of 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Oh, no question. Just reading this stupid crap being spewed by this racist comedian: "All our problems are caused by the Jews, who control the world, through their greedy money-grubbing capitalism." Sounds awfully familiar. This is now considered "progressive" rhetoric.

183 easy  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:24:04am

As ugly on the outside as on the inside.

184 shimra  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:27:47am

I hate to say this, but Dieudonne Deuchebag is actually right when he claims that Hitler was a moderate. At least when compared to the Jew-hating Muslim hordes across the Middle East.

185 shimra  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:32:19am

Oh yes, and I ask yet again? Why in the fuck are there still millions of Jews still living in Europe? It's not like this anti-semitism is a recent phenomenon. It's been going on since Jews had the misfortune to be blamed for nailing Jesus to the cross.

186 big L  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:38:17am

148 soccerdad-funnyLOLOL
same thing for "failure" w/o quotes.
click I'm feeling lucky
see who comes up

187 KevinV  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:38:47am

shimra -

It's not an easy thing to leave one's home, one's culture, one's mother tongue. The french jews I know are very French and I can't imagine any of them wanting to live in Israel or anywhere else non-French except under the gravest of circumstances.

I agree, given the history, this is not the most rational decision, but nationalism and love of one's home springs from the heart, not the head.

188 EE  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:40:12am

That there is a man somewhere that is an anti-semite is not surprising and is not news. But the fact that he is a popular comedian in France, and that his audiences appreciate his anti-semitic jokes, and roar with laughter at them, is symptomatic of the mood of much of France today, and of much of Europe for that matter.

The millenial anti-semitism of Europe didn't die. After the Holocaust, there was a stunned reaction and the anti-semitism went into a temporary pause. But Europe has bounced back from that, and its anti-semitism is back.

The audiences that laugh at these jokes did not cause the kidnapping, extended period of torture, and murder of a young Jewish man in France. But the atmosphere of anti-semitism that exists in France and Europe may have been part of the story, and part of the reason that such an event happened. The general atmosphere of anti-semitism could have been part of the reason that the sense of normal humanity was dulled in the torture-murderers who burned and killed that young Jewish man, and recited quotations from the Koran over the phone while his screams of agony were heard in the background. And why relatives and friends were invited to participate in the torture.

189 dennisw  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:44:20am

This mofo wouldn't last ten minutes in France if his skits mocked Muslims instead of Jews.

190 shimra  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:51:22am

#166 Gringo

The moonbats are Neturai Karta most likely.

191 Van Impe  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 11:56:32am

#159

One thing about the popularity of the Simpsons in Britain that has always puzzled me is how in the hell are they getting all the very-American cultural references?

I've also wondered about his too? Take Krusty the Klown for example, to truly appreciate his character and show you have to be of a certain age that can remember when every local tv station had a kids show, usually hosted by the local weatherman or newscaster.

I think the Brits (and the rest of the world that gets the Simpsons) are as much laughing at the show as much as laughing with it, in the sense that they view Homer as the average American, so in effect that they are laughing at America. The Simpsons (from what I've seen online) is very popular with foreign moonbats.

192 shimra  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 12:02:14pm

#187Kevin
You're right. I live in Detroit where letters to the editor sound like this:


Holocaust deserves inquiry

The rabbi assumes that Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "wants to destroy the legitimacy of Israel" and therefore his call to investigate the Jewish Holocaust is an illegitimate endeavor. But is it? Having an open inquiry on this troubling chapter of history could put it behind us rather than it being constantly used as a ruse to justify further Israeli violence against the Muslim world and others.

Richard B. Wilcox

Coldwater

Israel pursues genocide

Just as Rabbi Aaron Bergman invited Iranian President Ahmadinejad to direct his interest in genocide toward Sudan, I invite the rabbi to direct his own interest in genocide toward Israel. Genocidal activities include the infliction of psychological stress and the infliction of conditions that are calculated to bring about a group's physical destruction in whole or in part.
It is not hyperbole to use genocide to describe Israel's actions in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, particularly since September 2000. Not only have more than 3,000 Palestinians, most of them civilian noncombatants been killed, tens of thousands have been wounded and permanently maimed, most by "rubber bullets" to the head.

Kristine Currie

Grosse Pointe Park

---

Promote Holocaust debate

Shame on Rabbi Aaron Bergman in his attempt to promote the Bush administration's plans for a pre-emptive war against Iran by comparing Iran's president to Hitler. According to Bergman, the Holocaust has been well-documented; therefore, shouldn't we conclude that there is no need to worry? Why don't we simply support Iran's calls for debate. Wouldn't it be the best way to promote the ideals of freedom and democracy and get to the truth of the matter?
M.R. Holmberg

Dearborn Heights

---

And by the way if I do recall Michigan also boasts the most Neo-Nazi groups in the nation as well as the biggest Arab population (though not necessarily Jew haters, plenty are).

193 The Space Pope  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 12:10:28pm

I didn't know Slash had become a French comedian. News to me.

194 be the meat  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 12:10:30pm

Not to sound too apocalyptic but if these people...

"leftist "peace lovers" and islamist/neo-nazi/anti-American/anti-semites..."

... want a full blown world war, which is what they - in there heart of hearts - want the situation to develope into, then they will get it.

I don't want to see it happen. But if they keep poking the sleeping pitbull with a stick it's going to happen.

195 Canadastani  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 12:40:40pm

Al Franken just got funnier

196 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 1:23:13pm

190 shimra,

Neturei Karta...Hebrew for useful idiot.

197 pegcity  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 1:27:37pm

Oh France must you be so coy.

198 mattm  Fri, Mar 24, 2006 7:30:19pm
When the curtain rises, he is greeted with roars and whoops by a packed, multi-racial audience, which is young, trendy, intellectual and left-wing. Many of them have come straight from the latest demonstration against the government’s new jobs law for the young.

Do we neeed to describe what kind of guy he might be for this group to support him. Thes people woud cheer for Bin Laden if given the chance.

199 jetziger  Sat, Mar 25, 2006 4:55:53am

Les français sont muppettes...only in France would they continue to bash Jews after major riots from Mohammedan scum.

And this Dieudonné should be deported to Abu Ghraib...

200 Render  Mon, Mar 27, 2006 12:05:14pm

Dead thread reminder.

This thread made me double my normal ammo purchases for the month.

"Six boxes of .30-06 AP and four boxes of .45acp, please."

NO
TRACERS,
R


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