Governments, both federal and provincial, must fund legitimate academic research to diagnose this serious social problem and provide scientific solutions to it.

Activating the political left-wing arm of Islamism in the academia appears to be a strategically important option.

Effing South Park!

why shouldn't he blame them?
it is their fault, no?
/sarc

Ugh. Life imitates South Park.

The Canadian terrorist lobby...

It is irresponsible for our Prime Minster to paint today’s arrests as a battle between “us” and “them”. Such statement puts all Canadian Muslims in great danger;

As opposed to the Muslims putting all Canadians in danger?

Governments, both federal and provincial, must fund legitimate academic research to diagnose this serious social problem and provide scientific solutions to it.

I can save them a ton of money.

Governments, both federal and provincial, must fund legitimate academic research to diagnose this serious social problem and provide scientific solutions to it.

WTF? It's simple, Einstein. No 'splodydope, no 'splody.

#7 ibrodsky

I just did.

It is irresponsible for our Prime Minster to paint today’s arrests as a battle between “us” and “them”. Such statement puts all Canadian Muslims in great danger;

Charles dead-on (pardon the double entendre)with the highlighted part

the Imams once again decrying the backlash before it happens, rather than denouncing the jihadis

who started the fight?

THE MUSLIMS!

I'm not surprised...people like that tend to talk outta both sides of their asses mouths.

Red

Governments, both federal and provincial, must fund legitimate academic research to diagnose this serious social problem and provide scientific solutions to it.

I never thought of jail as a scientific solution, but now I do.

Keep flappin' your gums to the Molsons and Donuts crowds in The Great White North and you may wake up one morning with your RoP "mosques"...errr terror headquarters floating in pieces in Lake Ontario...

I hope the McKenzie Bros. types up their get tired of these psychopathic asshats soon...

Keep wagging your finger and yucking it up and see what happens...

#8 Earth2moonbat 6/4/2006 02:43PM PDT

WTF? It's simple, Einstein. No 'splodydope, no 'splody.

Not sure what that means.

My solution: Islam must either be completely revamped from within or eradicated from without.

This problem isn't going to go away until both our leaders and their leaders admit that the core beliefs of Islam (jihad, Islamo-imperialism, martyrdom, ad nauseum) are the problem.

Canadian Islamic Congress Blames Canada

Of course they do...

Crap! The link worked in "preview"!

There is no solid social science research that details why and how imported extremist ideologies are finding their way to some vulnerable Canadian Muslim youth.

Sura Nine, to name the worst among many.

Problem solved. Spend your money on deportations.

Blaiming others is also a core belief of Islam.

What else can they do--admit that Islam causes evil?

blaming others

...research that details why and how imported extremist ideologies are finding their way to some vulnerable Canadian Muslim youth.

Koran + Madrassah + Muslim youth as the product and symptom of an insular, insecure, and ignorant culture = TERRORISTS

Save the taxpayer funds, the research on this "cause and effect" has been done.

The evidence is empirical.

Research the means and methods for deportation of any and all that violate the law.

Such individuals present great danger to all Canadians, Americans, Israelis, Hindus, Jews, Catholics, sentient human beings...

* It is irresponsible for our Prime Minster to paint today’s arrests as a battle between “us” and “them”. Such statement puts all Canadian Muslims in great danger;

Translation...nice country you got here. You wouldn't want anything bad to happen to it, eh?

How long is it going to take until enough people realize that terrorism is a feature and not a bug of Islam?

“There is no solid social science research that details why and how imported extremist ideologies are finding their way to some vulnerable Canadian Muslim youth.

There are Canadians, there are vulnerable Canadians and there are vulnerable Candian youths and guess what, none of them are accused of having 3 tons of AN to do God knows what with. It's not until the Muslim bit gets added that there's a problem.

(Scratching head) Nope, too hard to figure out. We do need a proper study after all.

I'll give Elmasry points for muddying the waters, though - 12 of the 17 were NOT youths.

Incredible...3/4 million muslim maggots in uberliberal Canadistan.

And how many have we allowed to infest and breed here? Let's see, roughly 600K in SoCal, god knows how many in Ohio...

Time to begin the roundups.

I am sure that they are innocent of all charges. The fertilizer was going to be used as part of a major agricultural peace initiative.

/sarc

It is irresponsible for our Prime Minster to paint today’s arrests as a battle between “us” and “them”. Such statement puts all Canadian Muslims in great danger;

Yeah, right! Strong evidence there of the moderate majority of peace loving islamofascists, eh?

Today’s CIC statement elaborated saying: “There is no solid social science research that details why and how imported extremist ideologies are finding their way to some vulnerable Canadian Muslim youth. Zero dollars were spent by governments to investigate and follow up on such disturbing trends.”

That's really striking. If anyone did undertake such research, the results would provoke screams of "racism!" and "Islamophobia!"

Note to Canadian Islamic Conference: ESAD!

Way OT but thematically spot on:

MSNBC [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...] leads right now with a story titled "Rainmakers: China works to ensire perfect Olympics weather"

The Chicoms have a technique for controlling the weather and MSNBC thinks it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Could you imagine the environmentalists uproar -- starting with Al Gore -- if we did such a thing in the US? But since it's the Chicoms, who are also working on new and imaginative ways to put us out of our self-induced suffering, its just the cat's pajamas.

This is exactly the kind of MSM self-hating, guilt-ridden, moral-relevance-seeking mentality that the CIC, CAIR and other similar groups play off and depend upon to colonize us and subjugate our ability to think clearly.

If Muslims want to know what has generated my utter disgust with them since 9/11, this is a good example. I have absolutely had it with this BS.

After 9/11, I believed President Bush and all the Muslim/Islamist apologists who claimed that terrorist attacks were radicals hijacking the peaceful religion of Islam. No longer.

If Muslims want to know why American such as me no longer trust them, they can look in the mirror and look to jackasses such as Dr. Mohamed Elmasry who keep blaming everyone except Muslims for violence done in the name of Islam.

Oops! There is truthin this statement.

* It is irresponsible for our Prime Minster to paint today’s arrests as a battle between “us” and “them”. Such statement puts all Canadian Muslims in great danger;

The 'us' is Canada, 'them' are terrorists and in danger are 'muslims'. Therefore if the 'muslims' are endangered by the rhetoric aginst 'them' then the 'them'='muslim'=terrorist. Occams Pretzel

According to the CBC radio report I'm listening to at the moment, the oldest guy arrested, the 43 year-old-bus driver, was a kind of unofficial imam who preached all sorts of hatred at a Mississaugua mosque. Apparently, people complained about some of his livelier statements--like the one about how Canadian soldiers had gone to Afghanistan for the express purpose of "raping Muslim women"--and even the local M.P., who's Muslim, had brought it to the attention of mosque leaders. They did nothing to stop him.

If only Canada would close all stores on Friday, and then.., and then...

The reality is folks is that their will eventually be a backlash against Islam and it will get nasty unless Muslims start disowning the more violent teachings that are inherent to their faith...and that isn't going to happen...

Islam needs to be stopped or else it will stop us...backlash is sadly and eventually the only way to stop Islam...

It is us ...the non islamic world, that are in great danger...enough of the self indulgent whimpering from Islamic mouthpieces that lie baldy to our faces...

There is no solid social science research that details why and how imported extremist ideologies are finding their way to some vulnerable Canadian Muslim youth. Zero dollars were spent by governments to investigate and follow up on such disturbing trends.”

And let me guess. This guy just happens to run a consultancy.

#23 Infidel and Proud

Let's see, roughly 600K in SoCal, god knows how many in Ohio...

Don't forget the Islamist paradise here in Dearborn, MI. I wouldn't doubt that some Muslims here in Dearborn were aiding the Canadian Muslims.

They are lying in wait. Just a matter of time...

#21
ferris

How long is it going to take until enough people realize that terrorism is a feature and not a bug of Islam?

A corollary: It's a hardware and not a software problem. We do understand their ideology; therefore we keep weapons and stand ready to use them.

It is irresponsible for our Prime Minster to paint today’s arrests as a battle between “us” and “them”. Such statement puts all Canadian Muslims in great danger;

Groan. That . . .comes from Dr. Mohamed Elmasry, who practices the faith that ascribes to the believer/"us" = dar al Islam
VS the non-believers/"them"=dar al harb (infidel)
that's the pot calling the kettle black!

as the cic blames canada, so will the loonie left in canada blame the usa.

#37 justamomof4

Excellent point. Talk about hypocrisy. Regardless of whether Muslims are violent or not, their entire religion is based on "us" (Muslims) vs "them" (non-Muslims).

Excellent point.

Lord how he rambles on and on like Bill Clinton or Noam Chomsky or Fidel Castro or Nancy Pelosi.

Quit imposing your religion on others, sir.

If he can't impose his religion on you then he claims that you are oppressing him.

You can't reason with these people.

#21 ferris

How long is it going to take until enough people realize that terrorism is a feature and not a bug of Islam?

The difference, of course, being that features are documented.

Did someone mention South Park?

Times haven’t changed
The hatred’s getting worse.
Let’s blame it all on Zionists
And lob an awful curse.
Should we fault the Muslims,
And their ideology?
Or maybe say it's due to Hamas’s tyranny?

No, blame Israel!
Blame Israel!
With its hoards of yucky Jews
Who make Arabs suffer such abuse.
Blame Israel.
Blame Israel.
We need to form a full assault.
It’s Israel’s fault!

Don’t blame Osama,
As some are apt to do.
Don’t blame Hezbollah,
And don’t blame Moo (Ahmadinejad).
It’s better to apportion blame
Where blame is really due.
So, blame Israel!
Blame Israel.
It seems that everything’s gone wrong
Since Israel came along.
Blame Israel!
Blame Israel!
It’s just a shitty little country, anyway…

OT:

Dan Simmons has posted an updated message to the one Charles linked to back at the beginning of April.

It's long, but well worth reading.

Therefore, if we are to accept that Allah is the same as the God of the Judeo-Christian Bible, we are accepting that Allah is preeminent, and our God must be subservient. We are accepting, therefore, that we are no longer to be free, rational, and analytical beings. Therefore, we are accepting that we no longer can make our own choices, for Democracy, for Freedom of Conscience, or for our God Himself. If we accept such, we are condemning ourselves to the destruction of Western Civilization, and we are taking away the very duty of man himself, that is to express himself as a being made in the Image of God.

[Link: cuanas.blogspot.com...]

Israelis are legitimate targets - Mohamed Elmasry

Transcript Of Dr. Mohamed Elmasry's Remarks On Michel Coren Show:

[Link: www.montrealmuslimnews.net...]

OT

SIGN IN A STORE WINDOW:

"WE WOULD RATHER DO BUSINESS WITH
1000 AL QAEDA TERRORISTS THAN WITH ONE SINGLE AMERICAN"

This sign was prominently displayed in the window of a business in
Philadelphia. You are probably outraged at the thought of such an
inflammatory statement. One would think that anti-hate groups from all
across the country would be marching on this business and that the National
Guard might have to be called to keep the angry crowds back.
But, perhaps in these stressful times one might be tempted to let the
proprietors simply make their statement .

We are a society which holds Freedom of Speech as perhaps our greatest
liberty. And after all, it is just a sign. You may ask what kind of business
would dare post such a sign?

Answer: A Funeral Home
(Who said morticians had no sense of humor?)

Governments, both federal and provincial, must fund legitimate academic research to diagnose this serious social problem

I got yer diagnosis right here, sport, it's Islam.

JEEE-HAAAD!
/rebel martyr yell

So the first reaction to this big bust is to demand that the federal and provincial governments pay the jizzya (or as they put it, "fund legitimate academic research")? Are you fucking kidding me?

#48 WWtW

On the bright side, we no longer have the Liberals in power. They would have issued an official apology and compensation for not having the study up and running by noon yesterday.

Amonnium nitrate entrapment...
RCMP behind bomb material

The delivery of three tonnes of ammonium nitrate to a group suspected of plotting terrorist attacks in southern Ontario was part of an undercover police sting operation, the Toronto Star has learned.
...
Sources say investigators who had learned of the group's alleged plan to build a bomb were controlling the sale and transport of the massive amount of fertilizer, a key component in creating explosives. Once the deal was done, the RCMP-led anti-terrorism task force moved in for the arrests.

They were set up by islamaphobes! How could any Allah loving muslim pass up 3 tonnes of bomb making material? That's just not fair.

#48 Who Watches the Watchmen? 6/4/2006 03:16PM PDT

JEEE-HAAA D!
/rebel martyr yell

So the first reaction to this big bust is to demand that the federal and provincial governments pay the jizzya (or as they put it, "fund legitimate academic research")? Are you fucking kidding me?

In the midnight hour,
they cried, more, more, more
with a rebel martyr yell
they cried, more, more, more, more, mooorrreee

Canada has two Congress? Since when?

Governments, both federal and provincial, must fund legitimate academic research to diagnose this serious social problem and provide scientific solutions to it

Okay, I'll pony up, but only for illegitimate non-academic research

...why and how imported extremist ideologies are finding their way to some vulnerable Canadian Muslim youth.

Oh, yes, somehow some exotic imported ideologies have sneaked in past customs like aphids on a plant, and have mysteriously infected a few isolated yoots with impaired immune systems. Yes, of course, that must be what happened.

/need I?

TTFN
BBL

Talk about hypocrisy. Regardless of whether Muslims are violent or not, their entire religion is based on "us" (Muslims) vs "them" (non-Muslims).

We are Allahs chosen people. You either serve us,
or get off this planet.

/3 tons of Fertilizer,
that is a lot of
Shiite.

#52 Bubble Girl

:-)

On the floor of Tokyo
Or down in London town to go, go
With the record selection
With the mirror reflection
I'm dancing with myself

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity" -- Ann Coulter

Sounds like a plan.

58 Who Watches The Watchmen

I'm on a bus on a psychedelic trip
Reading murder books tryin' to stay hip.
I'm thinkin' of you you're out there so..

57 ibmkeyboard

/3 tons of Fertilizer,
that is a lot of
Shiite.

Especially after they mix it with 3 tons of diesel. This is getting close to MOAB territory.

TTFN?

Bad news for the MSM:

Number of Gitmo hunger strikers declines

7 minutes ago

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - The number of Guantanamo Bay detainees on hunger strike has dropped from 89 to 18, the U.S. military said Sunday.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

61 E2M

3 tons of diesel.

Bastards, think of the pollution.

/Enviro

NBC news is blathering about the 17 asswipes of RoP was a POLITICAL cell of filth and Islam had nothing to do with it right now on the vening news. Fookin' Seganthaler is parroting the Canadian Islamic Congress's line...

The press...rope, tree, chair...some assembly required especially CNN and NBC.

OT -

Check out today's Opus - it's hillarious!

http://www.uclick.com/client/wpc/wpopu/

More denial from the Northern Muslims...
Toronto police chief urges calm as arrests spark fear of anti-Muslim backlash

One Muslim leader suggested the arrests may have been timed to coincide with upcoming Supreme Court of Canada hearings into the constitutionality of security certificates, which allow the authorities to indefinitely detain, without charge, anyone who is considered a threat to national security.

"The timing is a little troubling," said Zafar Bangash, of the Institute of Contemporary Islamic Thought.

"As members of the community we do require some answers from our political leaders and other segments of the law enforcement agencies."

These "demands" from muslims leaders are getting tiresome.

Hello Reuters...

Bad news for you from Canada...

Thinking about this a little bit, I don't think these guys are as knowledgable about explosives as McVeigh and Nichols. I suspect that they'd have pre-mixed the stuff, and made it about 30' down their driveway to the first chuckhole, and then the chuckhole would get a "hole" lot bigger...

Let me get this straight...the PM of Canada actually stands up, defending the RCMP, CSIS, and police, by saying:

We will continue to support them by strengthening our laws, our policies and the resources dedicated to the fight against terrorism here and around the world.

and Muslims decide that this means he's going to attack all of them?

Hmmm...does this mean that they too think that Muslim=terrorist, as stated earlier? Sure sounds like it!

#64 Bubble Girl

Snorkel :)

#43 flipflop
Thanks. Excellent read, indeed.

"In even the most casual survey of history, one is repeatedly struck by the fact that certain groups do not seem to have the knack for realistic appraisal of themselves: they seem simply incapable of seeing themselves as others see them or of understanding why other groups react to them the way they do. A fantasy ideology is one that seizes the opportunity offered by such a lack of realism in a political group and makes the most of it. This it is able to do through symbols and rituals, all of which are designed to permit the members of the political group to indulge in a kind of fantasy role-playing. Classical examples of this are easy to find: the Jacobin fantasy of reviving the Roman Republic; Mussolini’s fantasy of reviving the Roman Empire; Hitler’s fantasy of reviving German paganism in the thousand-year Reich." - Civilization and Its Enemies, Lee Harris

Christianity remains a "transformative belief," but the transformation—as in the case of President George W. Bush, so frequently mocked by the sophisticated—is a private and internal transformation. It tends to breed more tolerance, not less. And I’ve been informed on good authority that even the strongest transformational-belief element in Christian theology required the blood of only one martyr—and that he was crucified long ago.

In America, still a "Protestant Christian nation" in a way that brings down the scorn and contempt of so many citizens of post-Christian Europe, even the most fundamentalist or evangelical Christian lives and works in a modern, scientific, secular society with little conflict. A born-again Christian not only can be a lawyer in perfectly secular courts, take his or her entertainment from secular sources, spend his workdays and social evenings comfortably with people from other (or no) faiths, and can marry outside the faith, but also can work as a NASA scientist or help others as a social worker or vote for politicians of other (or no) faiths without fear of losing his soul.

Those who equate Christian fundamentalism with Islamic fundamentalism choose to ignore that when a tsunami hits Indonesia or an earthquake ravages Muslim Pakistan, it is Christian charities that are often the first to respond. And no one need convert or submit to proselytizing to receive such help. And unlike Hamas or Hezbollah, which also include charities among their lists of organizations, Christian churches and relief agencies do not fund or carry out terrorism. Helping others, not jihad or suicide bombing, is hardwired into all modern Christian thought. - Dan Simmons

*emphasis mine

Especially after they mix it with 3 tons of diesel. This is getting close to MOAB territory.

That could have blown Parts of Canada into Mexico.

/talk about your borders be crossed.

Soon Canadian politicians and bureaucrats will fan out across the country, visiting mosques to assure aggrieved Mulims (who are the true victims here) that it's not a battle between "us" and "them" and we're all part of the great Abrahamic tradition. Indeed, Islam is truly a religion of peace and these bomb plotters were somehow misled by...uh, some foreign ideology that's seducing Mulsim youths...probably cooked up in Tel Aviv by the Mossad. Yeah, that's it.

Typical passive-agressive personality disorder for cultural identity.

Always the victim & everyone else is to blame, whaa whaa whaaa

#60, 64 Bubble Girl

They were going to use enviro-diesel, doncha know? Made from organic Ontario-grown corn.

There is nothin' fair in this world
There is nothin' safe in this world
And there is nothin' sure in this world
And there is nothin' pure in this world
Look for something left in this world
Start again

Am I stupid? Or is there really an "islamic" Congress in Canada? Canuks.. help me out here!

#52 Bubble Girl

In the midnight hour,
they cried, more, more, more
with a rebel martyr yell
they cried, more, more, more, more, mooorrreee

Billy Idolater?

How insensitve, a fatwa upon thee, and not the nice kind either.

Governments, both federal and provincial, must fund legitimate academic research to diagnose this serious social problem and provide scientific solutions to it.

"scientific solutions" WTF is Doctor Elmasry talking about?

65,

I just saw that.

It has nothing to do with religion, it's just political, said the assclown on NBC.

As if you can separate the two.

Like I needed a reminder not to watch network news.

Idiots.

72 Killer Tomato

From your post:

A fantasy ideology is one that seizes the opportunity offered by such a lack of realism in a political group and makes the most of it. This it is able to do through symbols and rituals, all of which are designed to permit the members of the political group to indulge in a kind of fantasy role-playing.

Islam is attempting to force it's fantasy ideology onto the rest of the world. I argue that they are truly a cult that is also a political faction, hiding under the guise of their religion, Islam.

Serious internal reformations of popular religions tend to be bloody, prolonged affairs.

An internal religious world-war within Islam is the ONLY thing that will bring about REAL reform. Everything else is just (theoretically) a peaceful majority making excuses for a bloodthirsty minority.

If you're an angry non-jihadi Muslim reading this post...

reform or be destroyed.

It's simple.

Stoichiometrically, one molecule of NH₂NO₃ would react with one CH₂ group (approximately), so the perfect mix would be 78:14, so you'd have 14/78 = 7/39 ton diesel for every ton of fertilizer. So that would be about 1/2 ton of diesel. Any more than that would just cause a huge fireball. Which would also get these creeps turned on.

There is no solid social science research that details why and how imported extremist ideologies are finding their way to some vulnerable Canadian Muslim youth

The extremist ideology is packaged in a book. Just one book. Look for the book and its copies. Its all there.

Muslim leaders' conclusions:

1. These events pose a grave threat to Muslims.

2. We need to understand the root causes. Could it have something to do with Israel's continued existence? This frustrates nearly all Muslims.

3. It's not against the law to buy fertilizer. Farmers do it all the time.

Elmasry is quite famous himself, for saying on Canadian television that all Israelis are legitimate targets for suicide bombers.

"Fuck Elmasry" is my pithy response.

#78 Redcoat 6/4/2006 03:44PM PDT

#52 Bubble Girl

In the midnight hour,
they cried, more, more, more
with a rebel martyr yell
they cried, more, more, more, more, mooorrreee

Billy Idolater?

How insensitve, a fatwa upon thee, and not the nice kind either.

I gotcher fatwa right here, camelbreath.

76 Who Watches

Look for something left in this world
Start again

Oh no!

:D

#72 killer tomato

I'm still reading the whole thing, myself. But I'm quickly putting Dan Simmons up there with folks like Spencer, Hirsi Ali, etc.

#79 van impe

Scientific solution:

NH₄NO₃ + C₁₂H₂₆ = 72 raisins

than that would just cause a huge fireball. Which would also get these creeps turned on.

Maybe they just planned to burn some french made cars.

Stoichiometrically, one molecule of NH2NO3 would react with one CH2 group (approximately), so the perfect mix would be 78:14, so you'd have 14/78 = 7/39 ton

Head starting to ache recalling physics discussion of the other day... please, no! stop! augh!

#81 Bubble Girl -

Hey, how ya doing? That's correct - it isn't a religion - quite simply it's theocratic totalitarianism.

Hey, who knew such a "broad starta" of Canadians looked so much like radical Islmo's.

#92 Killer Tomato

Actually, I screwed up. WWtW got it right. That would be 80:14...

Remember, they come from a broad strata of Canadian society.

As Michelle Malkin notes, here's your broad strata:

Yes, the same "broad strata" from which the 9/11 hijackers, 1993 World Trade Center bombers, USS Cole bombers, etc., etc., etc., came.

The 12 adult suspects, again:

1. Fahim Ahmad, 21, Toronto;
2. Zakaria Amara, 20, Mississauga, Ont.;
3. Asad Ansari, 21, Mississauga;
4. Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30, Mississauga;
5. Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, Mississauga;
6. Mohammed Dirie, 22, Kingston, Ont.;
7. Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24, Kingston;
8. Jahmaal James, 23, Toronto;
9. Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19, Toronto;
10. Steven Vikash Chand alias Abdul Shakur, 25, Toronto;
11. Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21, Mississauga;
12. Saad Khalid, 19, of Eclipse Avenue, Mississauga.

Such a diverse lot! A veritable Benetton ad. Can't think of a similarity among them!

That's a broad strata alright. Notice all the hockey players in the mix.

#79 Van Impe 6/4/2006 03:45PM PDT

Governments, both federal and provincial, must fund legitimate academic research to diagnose this serious social problem and provide scientific solutions to it.
"scientific solutions" WTF is Doctor Elmasry talking about?

This caught my eye too. First of all, the irony of this statement is so huge I envision a giant anvil falling upon this man's head the split second after he uttered those words.. What science? Which science? Genetic factors? No way, not when you are already perfect. Diet? Music? Society?

#67 Kilgore Trout

Every time Muslims blow something up or are caught planning to blow something up the first reaction of the politicians and the MSM is to warn against the "anti-Muslim backlash".

Blow up the World Trade Center and President Bush visits a mosque. Blow up London transportation and Tony Blair visits a mosque. Arrest Muslim bomb plotters in Canada and we're warned of the dangers of the "anti-Muslim backlash".

The fact that the "anti-Muslim backlash" never occurs (except in the fevered imagination of CAIR), is irrelevant. The main thing it to make the Muslims the real victims.

95 JammieWearingFool

That's a broad strata alright. Notice all the hockey players in the mix.

I wish they'd get the puck out of there...

#90 Who Watches the Watchmen? 6/4/2006 03:50PM PDT

#79 van impe

Scientific solution:

NH4NO3 + C12H26 = 72 raisins

LOL... and LOL again!

Such statement puts all Canadian Muslims in great danger;

Well, no. By this logic, it's not the Muslim fifth column in Canada that is dangerous - it's catching them and being glad about it.

Terrorists put CANADIANS in danger.

The fact that all the people in this terrorist sweep are Muslim is not the fault of non-Muslims.

Saying they are Muslims is a fact. Being glad about catching them, and planning to catch more, is just logical.

Statements saying it's good that we caught some people plotting terrorism is just the truth.

how imported extremist ideologies are finding their way to some vulnerable Canadian Muslim youth

Look in the mirror, you Egyptian shitstain.

You know I once did a research paper on Canadian white supremicist groups. They give these terrorist-types the most ridiculous sentences. This one guy was arrested with a ton of pipe bombs and charged with plotting to murder an Israeli soccer team among numerous other offenses and he got 2-3 years.

#97 Paul

Blow up the World Trade Center and President Bush visits a mosque. Blow up London transportation and Tony Blair visits a mosque.

This must be the backlash they keep talking about.

"Hi! We're George and Tony! We understand you've just blown something up, so we've come to pay a polite visit!"

#69 Earth2moonbat

ANFO takes a bit more than a chuck hole to set it off.

Best wacky quotes of the past 4 years.

Baghdad Bob "We have the enemy forces on the retreat" (or whatever he said when the coalition forces were across the street)

"Fake but accurate" (my favorite)

"They come from a broad starta Canadian society"

It is irresponsible for our Britain's Prime Minster to paint today’s arrests WWII as a battle between “us” and “them”. Such statement puts all Canadian Muslims Germans in great danger;

33 Albertanator

Sadly that is where were heading to, mainly because politicians in power are deliberately refusing to acknowledge the source of the problem, and continue to parrot the RoP nonsense.

The danger of a backlash is getting more likely with each passing day. A backlash that may bring about Fascist governments in Europe (note the rise of the BNP). This possibility is not theoretical any longer, as large numbers of people are beginning to talk about an impending backlash - and the very fact that such talk exists, indicates a likelihood and in addition, increases that likelihood.

Talk on any social matter by a large number of people, is like a barometer - and this one indicates the approach of a storm front.

#13 Greg

I hope the McKenzie Bros. types up their get tired of these psychopathic asshats soon...

If you knew how many grumbled remarks about "those expletive Pakis..." I've heard from countless ordinary Canadians you'd know that while Canada is largely controlled by a leftist elite, the people are not NEARLY as far gone as they are in the UK and elsewhere in Europe.

There are plenty of "good ol' boy" types up here, and although we can't get handguns we've got millions of 12 ga and scoped .308s in the hands of the people. Again unlike the UK, the Candian leftist government (not the current one) failed in their attempt to confiscate our guns.

Bending over only tends to stretch the anus laterally, thus making it more prone to attack.

/of, relating to, or being a sound produced by breath passing along one or both sides of the tongue.

If and when any individuals are proven guilty under Canadian anti- terrorism legislation, then they are criminals. Canada’s 750,000 Muslims should not be made guilty-by-association, either in the Canadian media or through any public pronouncements

Wrong paradigm, Mohamed. This is not criminal activity, this is an act of war. These men were engaged in a guerilla warfare operation that is directed at Canadian non-military soft targets. Criminals are motivated by self-gain. These actors are motivated by ideology. That ideology is Islam, orthodox, mainstream, defined by the canon (Koran, hadiths, Sira) Islam, not some mythical fringe "hijacked" Islam. It is the millenium old same ole same ole Islam, the Islam faced by our ancestors, the Islam that those same ancestors confined to the most inhospitable regions of the earth with swords, bullets and cannons. The world is at war and it is in our own neighborhoods. Soon it may come to pass that the citizen militia will lock and load. No amount of recycled Saudi petro $billions worth of propaganda will save the ummah when that day comes, and I have no doubt that it is coming. Suggestion to ummah: get out of dar al-harb now while you still can.

104 Orson Buggy

ANFO takes a bit more than a chuck hole to set it off.

Not with their homemade detonator...

#81 Bubble Girl -

Hey, how ya doing? That's correct - it isn't a religion - quite simply it's theocratic totalitarianism.

Hi KT.

Yes, a theocratic totalitarianism. It finally penetrated my brain. Finally. Now I happen to know that my viewpoints reflect that of Average Joe Citizen so if I can finally understand what is happening across the Globe then perhaps others, like me, will begin to understand too.

I also think it would help if our government made this declaration against Islam, ripping off its Costume of "Respected Religion," declaring it to be exactly what it is, a political movement bent on domination.

#97 Paul
I'm starting to think it getting very important for politicians to publicly acknowledge that Islam/muslims are the problem. I think an anti-Islamist political movement could give an outlet citizen's feeling the problem isn't being dealt with. Given all the options, anti-islamist statements from politicians and law enforcement is the most practical way to go.
/I'm trying real hard to not rant and rage today.

Canada evidently is infiltrated with Islam beyond what they can contain. I have a cousin that states they are wearing the burka in Saskatoon, Sask. They don't seem to be too worried about that.

#110 Hulegu Khan
Suggestion to ummah: get out of dar al-harb now while you still can

Thinking that would make a dandy bumpersticker.

Maybe the borad strata really wanted to hit at the heart of Canadian society. That would be the place, outside maybe this, this or this.

Perhaps those in the broad strata were seeking to make a bang (ahem) during the Stanley Cup Finals tomorrow night.

#87 Bubble Girl

I gotcher fatwa right here, camelbreath.

I keep telling you, the camel and I are just good friends.

And stop judging me.

Double-secret fatwa upon thee.

#112 BG

if I can finally understand what is happening across the Globe then perhaps others, like me, will begin to understand too.

From your lips to G*d's ear.

Stay well - I'm off to fold laundry. (If only I had some illegal aliens to do my housework...)

NEWSFLASH!

The Canadian Islamic Congress has issued a revised media communique:

1. All suspects involved in the current investigation -- those now arrested and any who may yet be charged -- must be treated as innocent because they may have been acting in self-defense. The investigation should be widened to include the Jews;

2. If and when any individuals are proven guilty under Canadian anti- terrorism legislation, then they are criminals. Canada's 750,000 Muslims should not be made guilty-by-association, either in the Canadian media or through any public pronouncements. The authorities should be mindful of the need to maintain civil order before making any further comments;

3. We praise today's statements by CSIS, RCMP and the Mayor of Toronto for putting today's arrests into proper context as criminal activities by suspects. These arrests have nothing to do with Islam and jihad;

4. It is irresponsible for our Prime Minster to paint today's arrests as a battle between "us" and "them". Such statement puts all Canadian Muslims in great danger. Instead, they should ask themselves what other groups might benefit from increased hostility between Christians and Muslims;

5. Governments, both federal and provincial, must fund legitimate academic research to diagnose this serious social problem and provide scientific solutions to it. We can recommend a number of Middle East scholars who are eminently qualified to conduct this research.

Do you think that all 17 of these young Canadian Jihadis lived in a vacuum?

Were they able to carry out their terrorist activities without arousing the suspicions of their family members?

Instead of calling for a study to be funded by the government, Dr. Elmasry should be encouraging family values, good citizenship and responsible parenting within his own community!

Apologies if this has already been posted:

Someone broke the windows in a Mosque in Toronto. I know, I don't should care.

Hold on, I need to fix this nail before I think about why I don't should care.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060604/ts_nm/crime_ar rests_dc

#114 new2thezoo

they are wearing the burka in Saskatoon, Sask.

Well, you might possibly see A burka in Saskatoon if you looked long and hard, but otherwise Saskatoon is a whitebread city of mid-western types. About the same as Boise, Idaho.

Montreal is a different story. Very heavy Algerian and Moroccan presence. French Canadians also have strong streak of anti-semitism in their blood.

Toronto's problem is Pakis. NOT Iranians. Every Iranian I've met in Toronto was anti-jihad, often effusively so. The Pakis are a true, mortal threat. They've been congregating in Mississauga (Toronto suburb of about 450,000) for at least 35 years (since Canada started mass third world immigration in the 70s). Like Pakistanis in general they hate the West with a passion and they are inherently excitable and dangerous.

#121 Bubble Girl

Someone broke the windows in a Mosque in Toronto. I know, I don't should care.

I'll tell you who cares: the leftist establishment. The CBC has quickly switched the bomb plot off the front page and now are dwelling on this minor act of vandalism as though it is the REAL crime in Canada today.

Like I've said, the left is the true mortal threat to our survival. Deal with the Left and we can easily deal with the Islamists in a few months.

122 Pro-Bush Canuck

Saskatoon is a whitebread city of mid-western types. About the same as Boise, Idaho.

FYI, Boise, Idaho is Rocky Mountain, and has a serious moonbat infestation problem. 20 years ago it was a decent place, but ever since the high-tech compinies fled California for there, and the Californians followed them...

#115 Killer Tomato

Suggestion to ummah: get out of dar al-harb now while you still can

Thinking that would make a dandy bumpersticker.

It would look even better on the back of my dreaded t-shirt of blasphemy.

I'd be able to cause seething in two directions.

#117 Redcoat 6/4/2006 04:06PM PDT

#87 Bubble Girl

I gotcher fatwa right here, camelbreath.

I keep telling you, the camel and I are just good friends.

And stop judging me.

Double-secret fatwa upon thee.

Dear Imam,

My master husband always comes home with this horrible funny breath, kind of like hay. When I ask him to use mouthwash he yells at me. What can I do?

Sheba

Dear Sheba,

Shame on you, you worthless cow, what do you think you are, better than a camel? Your husband's breath is none of your concern. You should get on your knees and beg his forgiveness then take a bag of rocks and stone yourself.

And thank you for your question..

Sincerely,

The Imam

Oh no, not some broken windows!

The horrors.

TORONTO (Reuters) - Vandals smashed 30 windows of a Toronto mosque and damaged nearby cars after the arrest of 17 suspected al Qaeda sympathizers accused of planning bomb attacks. Canadian Muslims expressed fear on Sunday that a backlash had begun.

The vandals struck overnight at the west-end mosque, a police official said on Sunday. A second official said he had no information on any link between the incident and the arrests, which began late Friday.

"The actual weapon that was used to break (the windows) is unknown," said secretary Ameer Ali of the International Muslims Organization of Toronto, which houses the mosque. "We believe it has to be a heavy instrument, possibly a sledgehammer or a pick ax, or it could even be a crowbar."

About five cars in a parking lot next to the mosque also had their windows broken, Ali said. He said the two-story mosque sees about 500 worshipers daily and the organization said the mosque is one of the largest in North America.

Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair told a meeting with Islamic community leaders, "it is certainly possible that that damage was motivated by hate. Hatred in any form, and certainly in its expressions of violence and damaged property, will not be tolerated in our community."

The Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations asked Muslims to co-operate with security agencies to fight terrorism.

The suspects, all from Ontario, remained in custody and their next court appearance is scheduled for Tuesday.

Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations?

#108 Pro-Bush Canuck

Agreed!

I know the Canadian Firearms Registry collapsed totally with 80% noncompliance and a billion dollars overbudget and the new Harper government is slowly getting rid of it via budget constrictions.

Hopefully you guys are armed enough as we are down here. I am afraid we will have to be fighting them in the streets of Dearborn, Lodi, Minneapolis and Missasauga soon enough no matter what BushCo keeps blathering about the Religion of Peace or they are doing jobs Americans (or Canadians) will not do...

It is like going into World War II and instead of Churchill or Roosevelt as a leader against a foe as vile as Naziism, we have Millard Fillmore or Trudeau or some other nonentity leader...

I think this is going to be our last serene summer...we will be into blood and steel soon.

123 Pro-Bush Canuck

The CBC has quickly switched the bomb plot off the front page and now are dwelling on this minor act of vandalism as though it is the REAL crime in Canada today.

That's about right. The broken window (oh, the horror!, and quite possibly an inside job) will now dominate the headlines for a week.

if canada had Nazi youths in school studing how to make explosives, be Chemical engineers, or fly planes into buildings they would see a problem with Nazi youths. But put Islam in the place of Nazi and it must be studied.. to see if theres a problem. islam claims for it's self the power over all other religions.. the right to kill or enslave its "victims" by war, to tax non muslems, and to make women second class citizens even when they follow islam. Canada and all other progressive states had better wake up before islam tells them to go back to sleep in this nice slave camp.

#124 Earth2moonbat:

FYI, Boise, Idaho is Rocky Mountain

As I wrote that I thought it was probably a bad comparison. Think of some small sleepy city in Wisconson and that's what I meant.

Canada's Muslim problem is in Montreal and Toronto. However Canada has FAR lower levels of Muslims in general than does Europe--around 1.8% of population, versus more than 10% in most European countries.

#121 Bubble Girl
That story has been floating around today, I had a version of it on #53. I think citizen backlash is a big problem for "them" and "us". If law enforcement and politicians were more willing to identify the problem, I think this kind of vigilantiism could be minimized.

Killer T

Have a good time folding your laundry.. and remember, those illegals are working at Kerry's house..

Ibrodsky

1. All suspects involved in the current investigation -- those now arrested and any who may yet be charged -- must be treated as innocent because they may have been acting in self-defense. The investigation should be widened to include the Jew

But of course!

Hi Bubble Girl,

I had inadvertently posted #127 elsewhere.

Howzit going?

The trauma of it all. Broken windows. They probably tossed some empty Blues through them.

I'd like to know what one of my favorite Canadians, Don Cherry, has to say about all this.

I bet I know.

#111 Earth2moonbat

They *do* tend to have a lot of work accidents at Jihad Inc.

“There is no solid social science research that details why and how imported extremist ideologies are finding their way to some vulnerable Canadian Muslim youth. Zero dollars were spent by governments to investigate and follow up on such disturbing trends.”

Imported extremist ideologies? Excuse me?

The f**king Qur'an is HATE literature. You don't have to IMPORT it!

Some idiot reporter (John Yang) for ABC News, quick to deploy that most unerring of MSM scripts(good, vast-in-number, Muslim majority vs. tiny few, bad terrorists with Muslim names), in deflecting all possible attention that might be focused on the worldwide jihad said there are "7 million Muslims in America", and that "Islam is currently the fastest-growing religion in America. Why they can't get even basic statistics correct? The actual number is closer to 2 million, with about 1,200 mosques, about the same number, in terms of both population and in the number of mosques, as there are in England. If you want to draw a comparison, there are about 350,000 churches in America.

To believe a reporter like Mr. Yang, you either have to accept of of two preposterous premises, that either the "vast majority" of Muslims have somehow apostasized from Islam and the Islamic community or virtually every mosque built is a mega-mega-mosque, for congregations far in exceeding 1,000 worshippers, the kind that less than 1% of churches in America could be described as.

The investigation should be widened to include the Jew

So that's how that 3 tons of fertilizer got there...

#128 Greg

The thing is that like in the US all of the lefties live in the cities while all of the gun owners live in small towns and the countryside. Where I grew up in Nova Scotia every single house had a shotgun and a rifle, and they were always kept in good working order. We were taught to shoot by our fathers when we 11 or 12. That's part of the reason Newfoundland produces some of the world's top snipers (as measured at the US Army Sniper Challenge in Georgia).

If the shit ever really hit the fan here the leftists would be huddled in their condos while us rustics would load up the pickups with guns 'n' ammo.

It seems strange to talk like this, but after this week I think we need to be ready for anything.

135 Orson Buggy

Those Radio Shack special trigger devices will do that. Of course, so will smoking while mixing 'splosives...

#123 Pro-Bush Canuck 6/4/2006 04:13PM PDT

#121 Bubble Girl

Someone broke the windows in a Mosque in Toronto. I know, I don't should care.

I'll tell you who cares: the leftist establishment. The CBC has quickly switched the bomb plot off the front page and now are dwelling on this minor act of vandalism as though it is the REAL crime in Canada today.

This attempt at "shell gaming" news events.. sliding the "windows smashed at a mosque" in front of our eyes and slipping the "3 ton bomb materials" under another page..

News Hucksters..

95 JammieWearingFool
Thanks for the link. I found this comment hilarious.

Broad Strata? Were there any females? How can you have a "broad strata" without women? Where were the broads in the strata? Posted by: Tim at June 4, 2006 03:52 PM

I checked the Toronto IMC to see what they might be saying. There was nothing about the arrests. There top story is:
Homeless Evicted, Homes Destroyed
under Bathurst St. Bridge

In the early hours of Thursday May 27, 2004, residents of homes built under the Bathurst Street Bridge were forced from the property and watched helplessly as their dwellings were destroyed. Bulldozers finished the job and left the site resembling more a wasteland than a tiny community tucked into the foundations of the bridge.

I'm willing to bet that the squatter's camp already looked like a wasteland before the bulldozers got there.

#123 Pro-Bush Canuck

Something very similar happened after 9/11 down here in LA, SoCal.: the press couldn't resist covering the 'anti-Muslim' angle even only hours after those planes struck.

There were some anti-Muslim incidences here: couple of Mosques with graffiti, Arab/Persian restaurants getting threatening calls, and other non-violent stuff.

#126 Bubble Girl.

Always listen to the Imam, he knows best.

And do something about those hair-rays of yours, they are distracting me from Jihad.

White guilt in the Great White North.

142 DP111

Broad Strata? Were there any females? How can you have a "broad strata" without women? Where were the broads in the strata?

Celibrate diversity, islamo style.

134 Jammie

Hi Jammie.. I was just sitting here thinking about one of your posts.. about the Stanley Cup Finals Game.

Jammie, I think you may have been right. It's always in the back of my mind.. an event, with lots of people...

#141 Bubble Girl

News Hucksters

lol

I've got an image of some portly guy, with a grey fidora, sleaves rolled up and a short cuban parked in his mouth.

144 deesine

Something very similar happened after 9/11 down here in LA, SoCal.: the press couldn't resist covering the 'anti-Muslim' angle even only hours after those planes struck.

And CAIR was primed and ready to go. Kinda makes you wonder what the knew, doesn't it?

#141 Bubble Girl

Canada's terrorist lobby reminds us that the arrested individuals are innocent until proven guilty.

I would like to remind everyone that we don't know who broke the window of the mosque in Toronto. It's too early to rule out the possibility of an inside job.

Broken windows on a Toronto mosque.

How many broken windows would there be in Toronto right now if 3 tons of ammonium nitrate mixed with diesel would have exploded? More importantly, how many Canadian civilian body parts would have to be collected? Tens of thousands. Tens of thousands. Visualize that.

Now let's all worry about those mosque windows.

Name the enemy, it is the death cult called Islam. NO ISLAM, KNOW PEACE.

#143 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I checked the Toronto IMC

In Canada the oozing black heart of leftist depravity lives here: Rabble.ca.

Most of them are split between:

1. The RCMP and CSIS framed the poor boys

and

2. We (meaning "capitalists" deserved to be bombed because we are helping with Chimphitler's Terrorist War

I swear, these people should be ___.

#132 Killgore Trout 6/4/2006 04:17PM PDT

#121 Bubble Girl
That story has been floating around today, I had a version of it on #53. I think citizen backlash is a big problem for "them" and "us". If law enforcement and politicians were more willing to identify the problem, I think this kind of vigilantiism could be minimized.

I suppose, but...

The Moslems claim the mosques are a place to worship and yet we are finding they are also a place to preach hate and recruit terrorists. Are we supposed to pretend we haven't read about the arrests, the men going to prison, the fact that I, a woman, cannot walk into a mosque to find out what they are doing?

* All suspects involved in the current investigation — those now arrested and any who may yet be charged — must be treated as innocent until proven guilty;

* If and when any individuals are proven guilty under Canadian anti- terrorism legislation, then they are criminals. Canada’s 750,000 Muslims should not be made guilty-by-association, either in the Canadian media or through any public pronouncements;

Does this not strike anyone as a bit ironic, being lectured by islamofascist mouthpieces on how to run a liberal democracy?

#150 Earth2moonbat

I had heard of CAIR before 9/11, but really learned about them afterwards. I will admit to initially being taken in by there statistics about the number of anti-Muslim incidences.

Thank goodness I found sites like this one and others to eventually discover and grow with the ranks of honest truth seekers.

#145 Redcoat 6/4/2006 04:24PM PDT

#126 Bubble Girl.

Always listen to the Imam, he knows best.

And do something about those hair-rays of yours, they are distracting me from Jihad.

I haven't used my hair-ray yet, but if and when I do.. you better put on your fastest running shoes.. cause I will blast your ass to Kingdom Come.

:D

"The actual weapon that was used to break (the windows) is unknown," said secretary Ameer Ali of the International Muslims Organization of Toronto, which houses the mosque. "We believe it has to be a heavy instrument, possibly a sledgehammer or a pick ax, or it could even be a crowbar."

In any case, we know it was something heavy enough to break glass? Hey Ameer, which one is not where you left it in the shed?

Besides Sturmer McQuaig's column in the Star is another beaut from resident Islamist Haroon "the Smirking Jihadi" Siddiqui:

[Link: www.thestar.com...]

The Palestinians voted for these genocidal creeps and are reaping what they are sown. Outside of the Arab street, if a party as racist and genocidal as Hamas was elected anywhere (particularly if the victims were more palatable to Europe, e.g., not Jews), it would be universally condemned and there would be no apologies for boycotting such government.

It's the Canadian Muslims who have put themselves in great danger by tollerating the relentless hatefull diatribe eminating from their Mosques and Immams of Wahhabi persuasion aided by enormous funding provided by the Saudi Oil Slut Islamofacist Biggots--that's what evolves when you have no moral compass and make no effort to abort the poisoning of the minds of your children--home grown Terrorists are the logical result of complicity and pandering--the enemy within is cultivated by a corrupt degenerate culture of hate that rewards terror by religious endorsment--this no brainer has repeatedly totally excapes the blame the other guy pronouncements of the Canadian Islamic Congress--because they are devoid of this basic moral principle!

#142

How can you have a "broad strata" without women? Where were the broads in the strata?

Steynian

110 Hulegu

Suggestion to ummah: get out of dar al-harb now while you still can.

I wish they would, not for just our wellbeing but equally, for muslims as well.

But they wont. They will not leave, even if the going gets tough. They will moan, whine and play victim to the hilt. And there will be plenty amongst us who fall for it, and offer help.

How to avert a human tragedy in the event of a backlash, that is the question.

Spanishpete suggested a payment of £100k for muslims to leave England.

My guess is that the broken windows at the Mosque are an inside job to try to distract from the fact that the Jihadis were caught.

#154 Pro-Bush Canuck

I swear, these people should be ___.

given a shower, a change of clothes, $20 and made to get a job?

#158 deesine

CAIR - Wholly owned subsidiary of the muslim brotherhood. And just a little too well prepared for the media after 9/11.

BG,

#148 Bubble Girl 6/4/2006 04:26PM PDT

134 Jammie

Hi Jammie.. I was just sitting here thinking about one of your posts.. about the Stanley Cup Finals Game.

Jammie, I think you may have been right. It's always in the back of my mind.. an event, with lots of people...

Granted the Cup finals are being played in Raleigh and Edmonton, but considering much of Canada will be tuned in, were something to occur during a game, it certainly would have maximum impact.

And we'd see a lot more than broken windows at mosques in retaliation.

BTW, I'll lay dollars for Tim Horton's donuts those broken windows were done by the folks from the broad strata.

Recall after 9/11 all the phony "hate crimes" perpetrated against the broad strata.

The folks from Canadian CAIR probably huddled last night and said "let's break some windows, call the gullible media over, and watch this story disappear."

And sure enough...

#149 deesine 6/4/2006 04:27PM PDT

#141 Bubble Girl

News Hucksters
lol
I've got an image of some portly guy, with a grey fidora, sleaves rolled up and a short cuban parked in his mouth.

I imagine thin, pale bloodless KOS like people with black souls and bad dandruff.

:D

Just think how many people would be alive world wide if the death cult Islam did not exist. Those (nations and individuals) who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. The curse is Islam.

Next we will hear that the 17 suspects have been mistreated. Count on it.

157 rayra

'remember who Jew the enemy is'.

#162 rayra

CAIR-CAN released this yesterday.

“As Canadian Muslims we unequivocally condemn terrorism in all of its forms. Canada is our home and we are deeply concerned about the safety of our country,”

Are you concerned enough to take out/nullify all the calls to violence in the Qur'an and Hadith?

Didn't think so.

#128 Greg

The thing is that like in the US all of the lefties live in the cities while all of the gun owners live in small towns and the countryside. Where I grew up in Nova Scotia every single house had a shotgun and a rifle, and they were always kept in good working order. We were taught to shoot by our fathers when we 11 or 12. That's part of the reason Newfoundland produces some of the world's top snipers (as measured at the US Army Sniper Challenge in Georgia).

If the shit ever really hit the fan here the leftists would be huddled in their condos while us rustics would load up the pickups with guns 'n' ammo.

It seems strange to talk like this, but after this week I think we need to be ready for anything.

---

Agreed, Pro-Canuck, and being a country boy that lives and works in the city, I see how mentally unprepared that most liberal city dwellers are when the crap hits the fan. It is amazing how self sufficent I am most of the time without any liberal handholding and know what to do.

City dwellers will crap in their pants and cry like women when RoPers start killing them in the streets in mass.

Give another day or two and the CBC and the big 3 or 4 networks here in the States will be rationalizing the [bigoted word]s actions to kill infidels as a unique part of their culture to be treasured and nurtured...like roadside murders on high school kids by representative of the religion of peace today...

Islam delenda est...

#169

The folks from Canadian CAIR probably huddled last night and said "let's break some windows, call the gullible media over, and watch this story disappear."

It works in Iraq.

172 ibrodsky

Next we will hear that the 17 suspects have been mistreated.

Where have you been? That's yesterday's news. Whining that they haven't been issued korans.

1. All suspects involved in the current investigation -- those now arrested and any who may yet be charged -- must be treated as innocent because they may have been acting in self-defense. The investigation should be widened to include the Jew

Dats it.
I knew the jooos were part of this conspiricy to turn the Great White North,
South.

/you know how they are always trying to take things off the world maps.

#157 rayra 6/4/2006 04:31PM PDT

Jihadis within the wire.

I once again call attention to this recent letter from the outgoing UC IRvine MSU President, exhorting his coreligionists to 'remember who the enemy is'.

I leave you with this; some final words of advice... Make use of this =
time now, you won't get it back. Yes, you have to excel in school, but =
realize your priorities, and don't forget the obligation that lies upon =
each of you: To implement this deen first and foremost in your own life, =
then to carry this deen into your home, to the entire campus, the =
community, and the whole world; to resume the mission and struggle of = the prophet (saw); to witness upon mankind; to make the deen of Allah = swt reign supreme once again over all other ways of life, so that = humanity can (once again) breathe free of oppression and injustice and = (once again) live under the mercy of Islam. =20

CBC ran a call-in show tonight. I counted 4 Muslim callers:

1. An Iranian man sounded truly heartbroken and almost cried. He lashed out at the "imams preaching this garbage here". He opined they should "go back to Saudi Arabia". He was genuine. You can really tell.

2. Two of the other three said that Canadians currently treat Muslims like Hitler treated the Jews (seriously, they said that with a straight tone of voice).

3. Three of the four said in a tone which was almost a "warning" that we (Canadians) should not discuss such matters in public.

4. One of them was Tarek Fatah (I think that was the name). He was one of the many Muslim "community official spokesmen". His delivery was the CLASSIC taqiya--spouted the party line about condemning terrorism "in all its forms" (read: Bush is a terrorist too!). The thing is that unlike the Iranian in #1 this guy sounded exactly like every other Muslim mouthpiece I've ever heard who was lying through is rotten mustache and using pre-prepared statements designed to not spook the kuffar (just yet). It was painfully obvious.

It was astonishing to hear the Iranian guy talk since we are so used to the lies and dissembling from Muslims that when you actually hear that HUMAN tone and emotion from one of them who really, honestly is in favor of peace and decency then it stands out in stark relief to the typical stream of lies which we're all so accustomed to from the Muslim.

I feel for him, I really do. Now if only we could find another million or so like him...

169 Jammie

The folks from Canadian CAIR probably huddled last night and said "let's break some windows, call the gullible media over, and watch this story disappear."

Looks like you and I aren't the only ones to come to this conclusion. We are Cynical Realists.

#165 DP111

Considering the cost of the CSIS/joint-police sweep of the jihadis in Canada, it could be that spanishpete's calculation is not far off. Countless billions will be spent, in perpetuity, to monitor and, one hopes, apprehend, the jihadist Fifth Column in our (Western) midst.

And, as for Mo el-Masry: the vacuous MSM has no business quoting anything that vicious Jew-hater has to say. He's a one-man band, his "CJC" has no constituency. Fortunately, he represents the unvarnished face of islamism, and hence acts to educate an otherwise-ignorant population of the threat which radicalized islam represents to the Candian polity.

CONVERGENCE BETWEEN LEFTWING NUTBAR AND DAVID DUKE ALERT!

[Link: www.thestar.com...]

To add more from an earlier post:

Police do not anticipate more arrests, but "reams" of evidence still must be analyzed, said Acting Sgt. Michele Paradis of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Lawyers for some of the suspects expressed dismay at the presence of armed officers inside the court during Saturday's hearing, saying it was prejudicial to their case (Boo fucking hoo!).

Family and supporters said the allegations were motivated by suspicion toward Muslims (Now why would anyone be suspicious of bloodthirsty maniacs?).

"It's going to come down to nothing, that I'm sure of," said Mohammed Abdelhaleen, whose son Shareef is among the accused. "I'm suggesting there to be no foundation, for any of them. They are playing a political game."

Police said the group had acquired three tonnes of ammonium nitrate -- triple the amount used in the Oklahoma City bombing.

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service said the men had become "adherents of a violent ideology inspired by al Qaeda."

#155 Bubble Girl
I'd rather have the government and law enforcement shut the mosque that villagers with torches and pitchforks.

#162 rayra
yup.
Canadian Muslims Relieved Terror Attacks Averted

Yikes! Re: #182:

PIMF:

That's CIC

#155 Bubble Girl

The Moslems claim the mosques are a place to worship and yet we are finding they are also a place to preach hate and recruit terrorists. Are we supposed to pretend we haven't read about the arrests, the men going to prison, the fact that I, a woman, cannot walk into a mosque to find out what they are doing?

Actually, yes we are, because Muslims do not possess free will, they only act in relation to our horrible treatment of them, now and in the past.

Any violent planning that may occur in the Mosque is leading up to something that we have coming anyways.

We must be willfully blind before and blame ourselves appropriately afterwards.

It's only fair.

I guess I wasn't the only one who's first thought about the broken windows was "inside job". It really could be a sorry attempt to deflect the spotlight away from the problem and create a "backlash" where none exists.

However, if the US is attacked again, backlash isn't going to be a strong enough word for what is going to happen.

Go home while you can folks, you all blow up anthing else and it is going to get ugly.

Also from the earlier thread, it is so sad to see the UK fold without even a wimper. We have a US flag on our car, a light up flag in our front window, one on the flag pole (in good weather) and an antique flag (from 1938, only 48 stars) in the corner of the living room. Over kill? Maybe, but I want people who come to our home to have no illusions about our beliefs. Of course the republican for governor sign in the front yard is kind of a give away too.

ZG

180 Pro-Bush Canuk

1. An Iranian man sounded truly heartbroken and almost cried. He lashed out at the "imams preaching this garbage here". He opined they should "go back to Saudi Arabia". He was genuine. You can really tell.

My heart goes out to this man and to all the other Muslims who feel this way. If they could break free from the thugs who run the Cult of Islam.. they would find a world they never imagined. One free from hate, one of Art, Music, Love, and Joy.

community, and the whole world; to resume the mission and struggle of = the prophet (saw); to witness upon mankind; to make the deen of Allah = swt reign supreme once again over all other ways of life, so that = humanity can (once again) breathe free of oppression and injustice and = (once again) live under the mercy of Islam. =20

Man,
this is good stuff.
Better than getting on a Peace Train.

/Where do I sign up?

1. An Iranian man sounded truly heartbroken and almost cried. He lashed out at the "imams preaching this garbage here". He opined they should "go back to Saudi Arabia". He was genuine. You can really tell.

From what I read on LGF and heard from local Iranians living here, they seem like a decent bunch of people.

183 Truth Dr

Israel, which was born out of the horrors of the Holocaust, arouses our sympathy in a way that white supremacist South Africa never did. But Palestinians weren't responsible for the Holocaust.

Dolt. The Grand Mufti most certainly was one of the agitators inside of the Third Reich for the "final solution. That's a bald face lie.

#187 Redcoat 6/4/2006 04:46PM PDT

#155 Bubble Girl

The Moslems claim the mosques are a place to worship and yet we are finding they are also a place to preach hate and recruit terrorists. Are we supposed to pretend we haven't read about the arrests, the men going to prison, the fact that I, a woman, cannot walk into a mosque to find out what they are doing?

Actually, yes we are, because Muslims do not possess free will, they only act in relation to our horrible treatment of them, now and in the past.

Any violent planning that may occur in the Mosque is leading up to something that we have coming anyways.

We must be willfully blind before and blame ourselves appropriately afterwards.

It's only fair.

My oh my, do you have it down pat. The whole Leftist spiel. Did you ever see.. Invasion Of The Body Snatchers?

189 Bubble Girl

My heart goes out to this man and to all the other Muslims who feel this way. If they could break free from the thugs who run the Cult of Islam.. they would find a world they never imagined. One free from hate, one of Art, Music, Love, and Joy.

Not to mention the satisfaction that comes from being equal with your partner, and not master of her.

#189 Bubble Girl

The striking thing was that this guy kept repeating that "they" were doing this to "my country" (i.e., Canada) "my children's country" etc. He said "I love Canada". I have NEVER heard that from any Muslim, ever. I've heard it from apostate Muslims, but this guy is still a practicing Muslim.

I don't want to make too much of this, but that one man gave me some hope. There must be more like him. We must be able to reach them somehow.

193 Bubble Girl

The Moslems claim the mosques are a place to worship and yet we are finding they are also a place to preach hate and recruit terrorists.

Having read the Koran and listened to more Muslim sermons than I would care to, I find it very difficult to tell the difference between Muslim worship and encitement to violence. Is there a difference?

#194 Earth2moonbat 6/4/2006 04:52PM PDT

189 Bubble Girl

My heart goes out to this man and to all the other Muslims who feel this way. If they could break free from the thugs who run the Cult of Islam.. they would find a world they never imagined. One free from hate, one of Art, Music, Love, and Joy.

Not to mention the satisfaction that comes from being equal with your partner, and not master of her.

{E2M}

#192

McQuaig has difficulty separating fact from fiction particulary where it hurts her anti-Jewish (oops I mean anti-Zionist) agenda.

Linda McQuaig -- You disgust me -- you are, IMO, truly the Lady HaHa of the 21st Century

#198 Truth Dr.

McQuaig is another crypto-Stalinist. Actually "Castroist" is probably better since Cuba is considered utopia by these people.

What gets be about people like McQuaig and Zerbisias (and Ariana Huffington and Al Franken) is how un-intelligent they are.

Lefties like to think of themselves as the "reality-based" community and to imply that they are mentally superior to the rest of us.

From what I can tell leftists tend to be drawn from the ranks of the 100-115 IQ set--almost exclusively. Just smart enough to misunderstand complicated stuff and then reguritate it in the wrong order.

#195 Pro-Bush Canuck 6/4/2006 04:53PM PDT

#189 Bubble Girl

The striking thing was that this guy kept repeating that "they" were doing this to "my country" (i.e., Canada) "my children's country" etc. He said "I love Canada". I have NEVER heard that from any Muslim, ever. I've heard it from apostate Muslims, but this guy is still a practicing Muslim.

I don't want to make too much of this, but that one man gave me some hope. There must be more like him. We must be able to reach them somehow.

Yes, there are more like them. He is between a rock and hard place. He belongs to a true Cult where the members number in the billions. Can you imagine how it would be to break free if you knew that you were a tiny minority against the mind boggling "billions" out there?

I do not believe there are billions nor millions of Muslims who have the same intentions as those who are buying the materials to make bombs, committing suicide in the name of Allah, or flying planes into buildings.

Wow. Rosie DiManno in the Toronto Star nails it.

Be sickened. Be frightened. Be angry. But don't you dare be shocked.

Unless you've been had...

If the accusations prove true, this isn't just slumming with jihad. For the benighted who claim that the war on terrorism is terrorism: Here is your war.

These accused wanted, if intelligence experts are correct (and they've been wrong before), to kill you.

Your children, your parents, your lovers, your neighbours...

Wouldn't matter, the colour of your skin, your mother tongue, the God that you pray to or if you pray at all. Wouldn't matter even if you happen to equate George W. Bush with Osama bin Laden.

The Jihad Generation — nothing alleged about it — makes no distinctions.

#196 Kenneth 6/4/2006 04:54PM PDT

193 Bubble Girl

The Moslems claim the mosques are a place to worship and yet we are finding they are also a place to preach hate and recruit terrorists.

Having read the Koran and listened to more Muslim sermons than I would care to, I find it very difficult to tell the difference between Muslim worship and encitement to violence. Is there a difference?

You tell me as I have not read nor heard the "sermons."

Remember, I truly believe they are a Cult.

My oh my, do you have it down pat. The whole Leftist spiel. Did you ever see.. Invasion Of The Body Snatchers?

That ending where he walks up to her and whispers.
She points her whole arm and finger at him and screams,

ISLAMISLAMISLAMISLAMISLAM

#127 JammieWearingFool - I wonder if it's occured to the authorities that Muslims themselves broke the windows and torched the cars, to give crenence to their claim of a fear of a backlash?

I mean, we know "youts" from similar backgrounds in France are really into burning cars!

193 Bubble Girl

My oh my, do you have it down pat. The whole Leftist spiel. Did you ever see.. Invasion Of The Body Snatchers?

Born, raised and currently residing in Boston, Mass.

I can recite that stuff in my sleep.

I can also do it with a straight face, in a group of lefties, get them in a foaming at the mouth Howard Dean-like frenzy.

Fun,fun,fun.

182 Earl

In Britain, some 40% of the muslim population is unemployed and thus on benefits. I estimate that this is costing the taxpayer around £15k per year per person - and this does not include the cost of maintainig security measures, or the damage to the economies of the West.

A one-off financial inducement is not good, as this is a large amount, and will attract mullahs, who will want a part of it for Jihad.

A better way is that it be given over a period of time, such as 20 years or even for life, with other help available, but only available in their own countries once they arrive back.

#206 Redcoat 6/4/2006 05:03PM PDT

193 Bubble Girl

My oh my, do you have it down pat. The whole Leftist spiel. Did you ever see.. Invasion Of The Body Snatchers?

Born, raised and currently residing in Boston, Mass.

I can recite that stuff in my sleep.

I can also do it with a straight face, in a group of lefties, get them in a foaming at the mouth Howard Dean-like frenzy.

Fun,fun,fun.

Yes! I too, know how to infiltrate. Born, raised, but no longer residing in Austin, Texas, moonbat Capital of the South.

Lots and lots of fun!

YYYEEAAAGGGHHH...

I'm off to dinner... making sure those peas are from "real" pods..

Broad Strata?

I can find recipes for Asparagus Cheese Strata and Breakfast Strata but no Broad Strata.

Hmm, maybe if I substitute broad noodles for the bread...

Please do not question their patriotism!

#207 DP111

I'm curious, what is the current unemployment rate in GB for non-muslims. The Brits I met over Thanksgiving led me to believe that it was pretty high.

#200

That is why the McQuaig's, Zeribisias', Walkoms and other apologists for the 21st century Nazis are so dangerous. They try to sow division in the defences against the forces of facism so that we will be overwhelmed -- they may not buy into Islamofacism but they buy into anti-Americanism, anti-globalism and IMO anti-semitism (if its useful to blame everything on those pesky Jews who refuse to be overwhelmed in Israel).

Name me one other nation that would let in unfettered immigration. To me, the real racism is in Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia and every other Arab nation that has not allowed the Palestinians citizenship and status in their country. To me, every person born in Canada irrespective of where their parents came from is Canadian -- END OF STORY! Anybody who says someone born in Lebanon is not Lebanese is a bloody racist -- these people may be of "Palestinian" descent like Rudy Guiliani is an American of Italian descent but that is it.

“As Canadian Muslims we unequivocally condemn terrorism in all of its forms..."

Translation: You think it's terrorism when our martyrs give their lives to liberate Palestine from the Jews. We think the existence of Israel is the worst form of terrorism.

#215 Elmasry is a vile racist who thinks its ok to kill Jews (i.e., Israelis).

If these nutbars were successful in committing their terrorist plot, particularly if the target were a synagogue, you'd get the apologists like McQuaig, Walkom, Sheema Khan and Naomi Klein saying such acts of activism were understandable given the pain and suffering caused by the existence of Israel (i.e., the "Jews had it coming" argument.

This is Canada. Canada!

The most innocuous innoffensive well disposed to other's country any where.

Do you hear of Canadians of Chinese extraction in Vancouver complain of Sinophobia? The sense of entitlement is almost as aggravating as the idea that Canada has ever done anything to merit such an attack.

The Muslim community did not sprout a maple leaf and turn these pricks in; Canadian intelligence got them, and it looks like just in time.

Canada did nothing but give these people hospitality; they almost got mass murder as their reward. That is the source of the anger that destroyed the windows in Toronto.

this is betrayal.

#208 Bubble Girl

Lots and lots of fun!

And the best part of thinking like a Liberal is that there is no thought required.

#213 Truth Dr.

Anybody who says someone born in Lebanon is not Lebanese is a bloody racist -- these people may be of "Palestinian" descent like Rudy Guiliani is an American of Italian descent but that is it.

The Lebanese, Syrians, Egyptians, etc. all refer to their Palestinian "guests" as "Jews". But Israel is the racist Apardheid, Nazi, etc. country of the neighborhood.

"A broad strata of society"--translation: any member of the umma.

Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari: Well denouncing any faith is not acceptable in Islam, that’s not the Prophetic teaching...Avoid the pagans. Had God pleased, they would not have worshipped idols. . . . We will turn away their hearts and eyes from the Truth since they refused to believe in it at first. We will let them blunder about in their wrongdoing. If We sent the angels down to them, and caused the dead to speak to them, . . . and ranged all things in front of them, they would still not believe, unless God willed otherwise. . . . Thus have We assigned for every prophet an enemy: the devils among men and jinn, who inspire each other with vain and varnished falsehoods. But had your Lord pleased, they would not have done so. Therefore leave them to their own inventions, so that the hearts of those who have no faith in the life to come may be inclined to what they say and, being pleased, persist in their sinful ways" (6:107–12).

"The devils will teach their votaries to argue with you. If you obey them you shall yourselves become idolaters. . . . God will humiliate the transgressors and mete out to them a grievous punishment for their scheming" (6:121–25).

"If God wills to guide a man, He opens his bosom to Islam. But if he pleases to confound him, He makes his bosom small and narrow as though he were climbing up to heaven. Thus shall God lay the scourge on the unbelievers" (6:125).

#215 - Based on his earlier comments in which he actually was quoted as saying that killing Israelis is a-ok with him is where I'm coming from with Elmasry.

Actually Klein's been quite quiet lately -- maybe she's out buying some Lacoste shirts.

#216

Do you hear of Canadians of Chinese extraction in Vancouver complain of Sinophobia?

Actually, I have. The difference is that that talk comes from fringe nuts, and not the pillars of the Chinese community.

a fatwa upon thee, and not the nice kind either.
Hmmm, Fat Wa... I think I dated her sister...

#208 Bubble Girl

Born, raised, but no longer residing in Austin, Texas

Why do the moonbats get all the coolest cities?

Austin, San Francisco, Vancouver, Amsterdam, London, Manhattan.

We're stuck with what? Houston? Buffalo? Calgary?

Of course the liberals and the left in both Canada and the US will blame Bush for the plot of the 17.
The left 80 years ago was completely Stalinized. John Meynard Keynes a leftist with some brains and who was educated before Stalinism usurped leftism described the indoctrinization process perfectly from his vantage point as a functionary in the British treasury office in 1919. Though I can not recall Keynes's cleverly worded quote it went like this:

First you hear the lie and you scoff.

Sometime later after you have heard the lie
repeatedly you remain silent.

Then the time comes when you repeat the lie
to please those above you.

Later you repeat the lie to those above
to climb the ladder and win their favor.

After a ime you believe the lie and
try to convince others of its veracity.

At last you believe the the lie and it
becomes your truth.

Stalin and his evil empire's henchmen revaling the correctness of pentultimate Freudian irony to cover their crimes shouted that the US and the anti-soviet west were evil. Stalin's useful communist and socialist useful idiots in Europe, the US, and elsewhere mindlessly parroted his disingenuous propaganda: There is no famine in the Ukraine said Duranty and the gray lady, reports of the gulags are capitalist slander the left screeched, the US is imperialist, the Rosenbergs are innocent, Alger Hiss was a victim of the witch hunter Nixon , etc ad nauseaum.
Western liberals and lefty loons have lied for so many generations they can no longer discern truth and robotically recite US bad, hate America good, and now chant Islamic fascism good as do the orchestrated choruses in Iran and in mosques throughtout the Islamic world chanting death to America, Denmark etc. George Orwell's ghost where are you? We need you to visit our leftists and give them a reality check!

212 Sarah D

The official unemployment rate for the UK is around 5%. This is much lower then say in France, Germany or Italy.

I haven't used my hair-ray yet, but if and when I do.. you better put on your fastest running shoes.. cause I will blast your ass to Kingdom Come.

Wow...you can turn them on and off?

I wish I could do that.

Heh.

#207 DP111

Interesting. Demographic jihad coupled with daw'a and islamist reliance on Western, PC-suffused democratic values. It's going to subsume the West if Muslim immigration is not halted post-haste.

#227 Bob's Kid

Wow...you can turn them on and off?

I wish I could do that.

You didn't get your 'mote control sheckel? I think Nana's got a couple extras.

You didn't get your 'mote control sheckel? I think Nana's got a couple extras.

I'll have to look into that, but to be honest, I'd rather wield the penis shrinking handshake--that seems to me very useful in certain circumstances.

228 Earl

It's going to subsume the West if Muslim immigration is not halted post-haste.

And Canadians have generally swallowed this idea that they have to have a totally self-sufficient economy, and thus need to triple the population. That's going to end Canada as we know it.

You know what would solve problems for both the US and Canada, is if we could build a corridor from the Rio Grande to North Dakota, and allow the excess population from Mexico and locations South to go straight to Canada. That would relieve the illegal problem in the US, and provide Canada with all of the non-Muslim immigrants needed. Two problems solved.

#225
and San Diego. Practically moonbat free (as far as California goes)

#230 Bob's Kid

I'll have to look into that, but to be honest, I'd rather wield the penis

Uhh...

Much of suburban Southern California is free of the lefty loons too once you away from the west side, Snata Monica, and anywhere that the movie industry crowds swarms over.
Check a map of the red counties and you will see that only immigrant top heavy Los Angeles and super affluent Santa Barbara counties went for John Skerry.
Once away from the gettos, barrios and denizens of academia and the entetainment industry Los Angeles County is suprisingly strong evil republican country.
California has been so cleverly gerrymandered by the democrat legislature since the once dominant republicans incinerated themseves with the machinations of Knowland and Knight in 1958 that handed the state legislature to the democrats that its damned near impossible for republicans to win for the state legislature.
Result, with every dcennial reapportionment the legislature and the state's congressional
delegation falls more firmly into the hands of a democrat party dominated by Bay Area moonbats such as Boxer, Feinstein, Pelosi etc.

Of course, it is never the Muslims fault.

Interesting info from excellent Canadian columnist Andrew Coyne's blog: [Link: www.andrewcoyne.com...]

This is interesting. The father of one of the accused, Shareef Abdelhaleen, is an Egyptian immigrant who came to Canada with his son 20 years ago. He works as an engineer on contract at Atomic Energy of Canada. He says he is "shocked" that his son is charged with terrorist activity. "It's crazy. It has no meaning whatever."

But that's not the interesting part. This is the interesting part:

The senior Abdelhaleen also confirmed that he posted bail for Mohammad Mahjoub, who is currently in Kingston, Ont., on a national security certificate.

Well, "in Kingston" puts rather too vague a point on it. He's in jail. An Egyptian refugee, Mahjoub has been imprisoned since June 2000, the last two years in solitary confinement. He has become something of a cause celebre for the left, with the help of publicity gained in a 79-day hunger strike last year. Some background:

Mahjoub is one of five people being held by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service on security certificates based on secret evidence. Under federal law, the government can hold suspects indefinitely if they convince a judge the suspect is a threat.

He is accused by security officials of belonging to the Vanguards of Conquests, a militant group with ties to al-Jihad. But he denies any links.

Mahjoub has admitted meeting Osama bin Laden in Sudan in the 1990s when he worked in an agricultural plant owned by bin Laden.

Canadian authorities tried to deport Mahjoub a year ago, but a federal judge stayed the deportation order against Mahjoub, saying she was convinced he might be tortured if forced to return to Egypt, where he was convicted of having.
terrorism.links.

For American readers who might not get the Andrew's typically wry comment about Mahjoub being in Kingston. Kingston, as well as being a lovely college town, is home of Canada's most famous maximum security prison...so the statement was kind of like saying that he was in San Francisco, when more specifically he was in Alcatraz...

On this French Canadian site [Link: www.canoe.com...] (French only, sorry) they are conducting a survey with the question being (loose translation) : "After the failed attempt in Toronto, are you worried there may be a threat to Montreal?" (presently 65% YES 35% NO). It will be interesting to see the final tally, although I do not put my hopes too high as to how seriously the islamic threat is perceived in these parts. On the other hand, survey outcomes on that site often seem to reflect the "preferred" results.

#237 Island_Dave 6/4/2006 07:23PM PDT

More about the senior Abdelhaleen and Mohammad Mahjoub here

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#63 jrdroll

Bad news for the MSM:

Number of Gitmo hunger strikers declines

They discovered you can cheat on a hunger strike like you can on Ramadan.

72 Killer Tomato

even the most fundamentalist or evangelical Christian lives and works in a modern, scientific, secular society with little conflict.

Well, now, I wouldn't say that...

Debate has arisen about how vaccination should be implemented if and when the vaccine is approved for use. Due to high incidence and the highly contagious nature of HPV infections, some doctors have advocated vaccination of teenage girls at puberty. Elements of the religious right oppose mandatory early vaccination, because the vaccine protects against a sexually transmitted disease, citing fears that it could send a subtle message condoning sexual activity before marriage.

-- From WikiPedia, but I found it after viewing a report that made the same point.

I can't believe that whackjobs of that calibur would even pass the laugh test. F*cking vaccinating against a cancer precursor, for f*ck's sake.

I will say it again:

If you want to stop islamist terrorism in your country, get rid of the clerics. Their day will come.

Red State Member.

Un-f--king-believable...