Yawn.

Yawn? They just signed that guy's death warrant!

If some of the commenters there are to be believed, dude's name was broadcast on jordanian TV before ABC blurted it out -- not sure that makes it right, but FWIW ...

Protect Valerie Plame but set this guy up for extermination? Okay.

WHY would they publish this? WHY? Can't you at least let some seeds of doubt be sown? Infighting take hold?
All
'Bout the
Caliphate

Treasonous Bastages...

Don Henley's 'Dirty Laundry' apply describes the state of the US MSM.
I truly hope the leaker gets iron braclets smacked on his wrists and does some time in a Fed Greystone Hotel...

Sometimes, I wonder if we can win this war with this bunch of 5th columnists...

#4 Buckaroo

If some of the commenters there are to be believed, dude's name was broadcast on jordanian TV before ABC blurted it out

So if your friend jumped off the roof...

Also FWIW this guy isn't Abdul Q. Public the date and fig salesman, but a lower-level, captured al-q operative ...

I couldn't get the page to display properly. All I got was a picture of Brian Ross on the left side a brief flash of the blog and then white space.
Anybody else having problem?

Wait, the guy was a top Zark-Meat "aide"?

Fuck him.

Would you protect Goering or Himmler, if they'd ratted out Hitler?

/bollocks, turn him loose on the streets, I say.

It's ABC what else would you expect?

Giving away sources of intelligence is ALWAYS a bad idea.

Absent this information, the remaining Al Queda in Mesopotamia cells would have had to totally revamp their security. A lot of cells would have been cut off or would have simply stopped communicating.

Now they know where the security hole was, and can take more measured steps to prevent recurrence.

Da_Wiz Sends

I don't agree with ABC's decision, but this guy is no candy striper either.

JaG
Same hear.

# 8 L M

"not sure that makes it right"

Did you not read that adjacent sentence of mine as well?

Zarqawi is dead. And liberals are still traitors.

# 10 J

Page loaded fine on firefox ...

English children convert to Islam

Youngest Muslim Reverts in The World. Children in England Turn To Islam. Some of the World's youngest Muslim reverts. Two sisters, aged 9 and 12 show a keen interest in Islam. It all started when they went to the Local Mosque after hearing the melodious Adthaan (call to prayer). Soon after they decided to go to classes at the mosque after school, and have bought and studied many books on Islam, and have even managed to learn and read the Quran in the Arabic language. Unlike other children, the girls spend their evenings reading books and memorising Quran as well as praying in their rooms. All of which is very new and strange to their mother.

Did ABC get the information about the informant from the military's spokespeople in Iraq? If so, presumably that means that the military didn't care whether or not the info is released, so why shouldn't ABC report it?

#16 AI

...and the troopers on the ground with Al Zar were paratroopers from the 101st Airborne.

Gotta luv the screamin eagles!

After the brief flash of the blog let the page finish loading and then scroll down. Apparentely it was originally formatted to be on the right hand side of the page but something then makes it display underneath the smiling mug of Mr Ross.
/or else ABC doesn't do anything on the right side as a matter of policy.

As much as I'd enjoy ripping ABC a new one, who really released this info first?

I do actually wonder if our guys perhaps have their reasons for allowing this information to "leak". Nothing creates a climate of suspicion within a criminal organization like knowing that someone "trusted" was flipped.

#19

Zarqawi is dead. And liberals are still traitors.

That just about sums it up.

So when does the Left start complaining (if they haven't already) about the Iraqi police and our SF guys just letting the Z-man expire instead of having an ambulance standing by? I say Ramsey Clark needs to head up the investigation into our obvious cruelty and multiple violations of the Geneva Convention.

#21 Nordish12

I'd rather catch my kids doing coke than learnin that shit. The rehabs easier.

#10 Just_A_Grunt

You've got to scroll waaay down to read the story, and the posts.

#15 Freakyboy said

I don't agree with ABC's decision, but this guy is no candy striper either.

So are there any sources within a murdering head chopping enterprise who ARE candy stripers? Since the good guys cannot coerce information with anything more persuasive than Ice Cream or stern language, all they can could have offered is "if you tell us, we won't publish your name and photo globally, ensuring that you, your family, and your friends meet a horrible death"

#14 O_W:

Now they know where the security hole was

Or, perhaps, they don't. This might be disinformation by our side.

But I do agree that ABC News wouldn't give two flying falafels whether reporting this would hurt our side or not.

Can someone hack into that blog and photoshop Markos' face on that picture? Please?

One of the more moonbatty posts there:

wow look at all the frightened republicans posting comments about how awful it is to actually know the truth.

You are all so afraid of Al Qaeda.
Al qaeda owns the GOP. They have scared you people like a pack of kindergarden children being read ghost stories. You think the media tells you too much? Whats wrong with you? This news story has been all over the world before ABC posted it? Jordanian news reported it immediatly! You're all sad frightened people. Al qaeda has beaten you and you dont even know it.

I am mixed on releasing the name of who the source of the information was. I don't think we needed the name but I do think it was a good idea to let them know it was somebody in the inner circle. The more we can do to make them paranoid and schitzophenic the better. Just like all of the brutal -ism before them they may begin purging their wn ranks and save us the trouble.

I couldn't load shit man!

Saw that ABC was doing this a couple of weeks ago. Rusty Shackleford seemed to have already taken relish to lighting up some of the more real flamers.
There seemed to be a somewhat mixed bag, that day; kind of like watching those kos people spouting something ridiculous (I'm sure I don't need to leave any examples) and somebody from the real world smacking them down like gnats or something.
Not my kind of thing, but fun to watch during lunch.

Man, my name sure is popular over there. LOL.

The media, collectively, that publicized the face of the informant, his name, and other personal information, have done much to assure that
(1) the informant will of course be murdered, and
(2) others will be frightened to death to be informants, money or no money.

Also, the fact that during this time before he is murdered he won't be getting any of the reward money, also tends to drive anybody else away from being an informant.

He should be getting plastic surgery to change his face, and a new identity, as if he were somebody in the witness protection program. The news of his murder would have a harmful effect, even if some people think that he deserves to be murdered for his past deeds before he became an informant.

If you click on the link, it appears blank on the screen...but scroll down as the story is on the bottom left...

#21 Nordish12

Pretty soon, they'll have their own little explosive vests. How sweet.

What's surprising to me it that ABC reporters can dig up this guys name, photo, current address and 5th grade teacher to tell us he's always been a snitch, yet still haven't figured out that the Haditha allegations are presented by a "human rights" "group" of two guys with an ax to grind.

I guess it's all about who's bull's being gored eh ABC?

the speed of jet fighters when you hear it, it is already gone.

An Iraqi customs agent secretly working with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's terror cell spilled the beans on the group after he was arrested, Jordanian officials tell ABC News.

Ziad Khalaf Raja al-Karbouly was arrested by Jordanian intelligence forces last spring.

They give his name and picture, and he will not get the 25 million.

I guess you could say this bastard is going to die broke.

Another moonbatty one ("Harry Lime"):

Great work, ABC. Tell Ross to stay with it. He's the best investigative reporter on televison and ABC is to be admired on its continuing superlative coverage of the Iraqi war. Pay no attention to Republican 'know-nothings.' They're a disgrace to themselves and a liability to the country.

Tell Gibson, too, by the way, that he's started with a bang, and should only get better

What a moron.

The question is who told the press about this guy and why. Was there a reason our intelligence people would let this get out? Or was this a stupid error? After all, who gave the picture of the guy to the press? Remember, the press are useful idiots for both sides.

How long do you think ABC will be able to stand listening to the public. I think they'll soon feel safer listening to their friends and shut down the blog comments.

They'll come up with a reason-like: too many truthful hateful comments

Is that a Jordanian flag on the soldier's arm. Maybe the Jordanians let this get out for their own reasons?

KOS KOLORING KONTEST here:

[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

Nancy Pelosi will pick the winning entry, don't color outside the lines now!

Awww, ABC's just trying to be patriotic and save the government $25 Million.

AI: This is what I know about moveable type

OK, I can see one frozen page, from which I glean this:

An Iraqi ice cream man secretly working with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's terror cell spilled the beans on the group after he was arrested, Jordanian officials tell ABC News.

Chuck E. Chees was arrested by Jordanian intelligence forces last spring.

Officials say Chuck confessed to his role in the terror cell and provided crucial information on the names of Zarqawi commanders and locations of their safe houses.
Chuck also admitted to his role in the kidnappings of two Moroccan embassy employees, four Iraqi National Guards and an Iraqi finance ministry official.

In a videotaped confession, Chuck said he acted on direct orders from Zarqawi.

Officials say he will not be eligible for any of the $25 million reward money.

Maybe this Chuck is an unrepentant Jihadist- maybe the Jordanians pounded his nuts with a hammer till he talked. Now they are outting him to further screw up Al Queada planning.

Sorry, I'm not too upset at ABC for this one-- this clod was an Iraqi Customs Agent who was actively assisting a terrorist who was fighting against his own country. In other words, he is a treasonous, Islamist bastard. If he gets whacked, he had it coming.

OT: There'a great editorial cartoon re the death of Zarqawi on the WaPo web site. Enjoy.

OT: Speaking of MSM

The issue of Haditha has really captured my attention, especially the questionable reporting. Here's some good fisking of the media reports:

link1

link2

ABC =ASSHOLES BEYOND CONTEMPT.

Loose lips sink ships.

#36 Just_A_Grunt
Agreed. I doubt ABC learned the informants name on their own, I suspect Rove made a call. Now the insurgency knows that they can't trust their own. They're now hunting down al-Karbouly's friends, associates and co-workers. This is a great way to get the insurgency to assist in it's own destruction.
God bless Turd Blossom!

#30 Canadastani

I believe he was being held in Jordan, where they don't serve Ice Cream during interrogation. ;-)

49-ggt
Do yo think that they (the editors:Halperin, etc.)will actually read any of the comments of ...of common people?

ABC is not to blame- Jordan already released the dude's name. On balance it probably helps the US cause in Iraq...
Wait. They must be pissed.

Comments may be open, but they're not posted immediately. Looks like it's moderated.

#31 AI

I am wondering if the film is from a drone or other recon plane. Not one of the F-16's.

Maybe one of the flyboys can enlighten us. I am only familiar with helicopter altitudes.

Did this dude get a lawyer and have him present during questioning? Did he have the right to remain silent? A visit from the International Red Cross? Ramsey Clarke? A bagel prayer rug and Koran?

#61 energy

49-ggt
Do yo think that they (the editors:Halperin, etc.)will actually read any of the comments of ...of common people?

Hard to say if any of it will trickle-up. You are probably right.

The interns who are reading them will be the managers of tomorrow . . .I can hope anyway.

#55 morganfrost, rats may have it coming to them to, but if you burn them you get fewer big fish and fewer people willing to be rats.

It's not this guy; it's what ABC is potentially screwing up by burning him.

Kind of like when they were bragging that they were tracking UBL through satellite phones.

#62 Peacekeeper

ABC is not to blame; Jordan already released the dude's name.

See, that car was speeding ahead of me, so I shouldn't get a ticket because...

#51 Thanos
You should visit kos today, there a serious movement to stop the pretense of supporting the troops...
Half Of You Will Hate Me For This

So this is my plea to fellow liberals. We should not fear conservatives. It's time to take a stand and grow a pair. Fuck it! I'll say it! I don't support the troops. Not the ones in Haditha. Not the ones in Guantanamo. And definitely not the ones at the Pentagon. To the grunts on the ground I hope you return safely and soon but that doesn't mean I approve of what you're doing there. I'm sorry you're being ordered to kill and create chaos; I know it's not your fault, but regardless, I don't support it.

and from this morning...
Support No Troops

Palestinian FM Due in Tehran Tonight

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Palestinian Foreign Minister Mahmoud al-Zahar is due to arrive in Tehran on a three-day visit Friday night.
[Link: www.farsnews.com...]

So Zarqman was found after one of his cronies got himself caught and interrogated?. Somebody forgot to tell them that those methods never work.

OTOH... it could be that the terrorists for allah won't believe the guy named is the ONLY one who blabbed. As paranoid as they are they could very well be taking a much closer look at everyone around them.

Anyone know how long the zeeman was in that *cough* safe house?

Lightning man
Ah, just a theory is all.

People have to understand how sourcing is done

Information on a really bizarre scheme to operate secret prisons all across Europe = "a highly placed CIA employee"

information on NSA eavesdropping on terrorists phone calls = "high ranking goverment official"

A story on mishandling of Koran in Gitmo = "a senior military authority"

Story on a possible violation of the rules of war = release of full name, rank, SSN and names of next of kin along with mailing address

You would think you guys never took a journalism class or something.

Boy, I've been enjoying the Zarqawi death sooo much. Not only because the dude has assumed room temperature, but to see steam coming out of the lefties' heads.

I especially enjoyed Randi Rhodes (sp?) comments about how "Even bin Laden and Zawahiri were telling this guy to stop killing Iraqis, distancing themselves from him." She said this yesterday.

Today, a tape from Zawahiri comes forth. And...wait for it...that's right! Zawahiri praises Zarqawi as a valiant warrior..

Oh, man. Good times. What say you, Ms. Rhodes?
/cannelling Bill O'Reilly

Randi Rhodes is who? A porn star?

Doesn't the guy at least get a new face, identity for him and his family and a spiffy townhouse in Los Angeles Teherangeles?

If he is splattered anytime soon, it won't help information gathering.

Muslim:C28B20N4626 “Merit Of Jihad And Campaigning In Allah’s Cause: The Apostle said: ‘Allah has undertaken to look after the affairs of one who goes out to fight in His Way believing in Him and affirming the truth of His Apostle. He is committed that He will either admit him to Paradise or bring him back to his home with a reward or his share of booty. If a person gets wounded in Allah’s Cause he will arrive on the Day of Judgment with his wound in the same condition as it was when it was first inflicted; its color will be blood but its smell will be musk perfume. If it were not too hard on Muslims I would not lag behind any raid going out to fight in the Cause of Allah. But I do not have abundant means to provide them (the Mujahids [Islamic terrorists]) with riding beasts, nor have they all have the means (to provide themselves with the weapons of Jihad). I love to fight in the Way of Allah and be killed, to fight and again be killed and to fight and be killed.’”

They dropped Airhead Amerika in the Atlanta market. Gotta love the Free market system.

SO one of Zarks guys dimed him out. Now we need to move on to bigger fish. Can we get someone at ABC, NBC, or maybe someone at the NYT to turn and rat out their friends on how anti-american they really are? You know. Give us all the skinny on the editorial meetings, the lunch room scuttlebutt, and what is said in the bars outside 30 rock.

Back in the day - under the Presidency of FDR, such reporting would have been censored - eliminating all references to means, methods, and sources.

But since the media wants to blab about all this stuff, it is possible that the Pentagon is feeding a line about how they've got informers on the inside and out giving up their leaders at a tip of the hat. Psy-ops is a possibility, but the most likely situation is that someone blabbed.

And that's not a good thing at all.

#79 Peacekeeper

"Randi Rhodes is who? A porn star?"
No he was a guitarist for ozzy osbourne

Tabari VIII:182 “The people assembled in Mecca to swear allegiance to the Messenger in submission. He received from them the oath of allegiance to himself, to heed and obey.” ...( I admit...I dont have a boatload of degrees...But who did they swear to?

Just a grunt
Some CIA or Congress puke leaks info and they are protected whistleblowers. Accuse an infantry squad of the most outrageous crap and MSM sets up a van at their parents house. "Did you ever think your boy was a bloody killer?"

#64 hous:

I am wondering if the film is from a drone or other recon plane. Not one of the F-16's.

I agree, it seems to be moving waaayyy too slow to be from an F-16 (think stall speed).

The interogation of the suspect included playing Barry Manilow music for 30 consecutive hours which almost led the interogator to disbelieve all statements made by the suspect. The interpertor had a hard time translating because of the babbling.

#79 PK:

Randi Rhodes is who? A porn star?

That's your answer to everything, isn't it?!

OR
Maybe it was one of your Batsuit things...

What's your point?

Messenger in submission. He received from them the oath of allegiance

The Koran sort of sounds like S&M porn.

Family's fears at East London terror protest

The noisy demonstration outside Forest Gate police station was contained within a police pen opposite. Protestors waved placards against police tactics and shouted: "Hands off Muslims. Tony Blair is a terrorist and Tony Blair, watch your back."

In a chilling aside, a statement put out by al-Ghurabaa, followers of Alh us-Sunnah Wal Jamaa, said that the killing of Muslims was the price Britons have to pay because of the ‘real terrorists in our midst’.

In an apparent non-sequitur, the statement added: "After all, imagine what would happen if a nuclear device were to be unleashed onto the streets of Britain or if our water supply were suddenly poisoned killing millions of us."

A 10-year-old boy, Fedai Bunaust, from Tunisia, handed out leaflets headlined: "Police Target Muslims: Will You Be Next?"

"The mosque gave me the leaflets," he said. "It’s about the police."

A bearded Irishman from Dublin, a convert of five years who gave his name as Khaled, said: "The Prophet Mohammed said ‘you should carry weapons’ and he is right."

And an English convert, of 10 years, Abu Ibrahim, a self-confessed fundamentalist shouted: "We are hear to highlight the oppression. To highlight the tyranny of the British."

This just in:

Hamas is calling off their truce with Israel after a bunch of Palestinians were killed or injured at a Gaza beach. It's unclear what happened, but the Palis are accusing Israel of dropping artillery on the area.

IDF is investigating, and they're looking at a dud round or misfire as possible explanations.

Israel wouldn't have to resort to counter battery fire if the Palestinians didn't keep firing rockets and mortars into Israeli territory.

During the Civil War, General Sherman wanted to have the press banned from his camps and have them shot as spies.

In my younger years I thought that was a bit over the top. Now I understand his point of view

I'd tell my deepest darkest to a street prostitute before I'd talk about anything to a reporter. The weather isn't even a safe subject!

Picknickers die in Gaza attack

Methinks we're never going to hear the end of this ...

The informant will take the $25 million, buy a Florida Holiday Inn Express, change his name, and live happily ever after...

"I am a Persian American" t-shirt

Hamas is feelin' froggy...
Hamas Vows to Renew Attacks on Israel After 15 Killed (Update1)

The military wing of the Hamas movement that controls the Palestinian Authority said it will renew attacks against Israel after 15 Palestinians were killed in Israeli artillery fire and an air strike.

``These Zionist measures are the beginning of a battle which means there will once again be an earthquake in Zionist cities and all that will remain of those rapists will be their baggage and a shroud,'' said a leaflet distributed by the military wing Issadine el Qassam.

Jump, froggy, jump!

#64 hous
#89 OR

If it's from a high altitude, it could appear to be moving that slowly. Also note the crosshairs in the video. I don't think you'd see that from the Predator, if the F-16s were dropping the Paveways.

I think Zak said something nasty on that stretcher and somebody put him out of his misery.

Did you hear that Mr. Murtha is going to run for majority leader if the Dems win the majority?

#53 ggt

Here's the Wiki on the Weblog software, Movable Type.

WHICH IDENTITY?

The identity is the reality of every person and every individual that distinguishes him from anybody else, therefore the identity is related to his personality, which in turn composes the mentality of the person, composes of the emotions and the feelings of the person and it is related to his physical and character and behaviour. That is manifest in the Hadith of the Aisha (ra), where she said,

"I heard from umm ul Mu'mineen Safiyyah that she was the dearest child to her father and her uncle, and she said, "Whenever I meet them, they used to take me instead of any other child. When the messenger (saw) came to their tribe, they came to him and did not leave him until sunset and then when they returned they were so tired, so I went to them and did what I used to do regularly for them, and none of them turned to look at me and I heard my uncle Abu Yaasir say to my father, "is everything ok?" he said, "Yes by Allah" and he said, "did we met him? Is he really the messenger)?" he replied "yes" and he asked him “what was in your heart for him”, he said, "Animosity towards him for as long as I live"

So when they went to meet the prophet (saw), they returned and did not change even though he declared that he recognised the prophet (saw) and that is proof that the identity of the prophet (saw) was the same as the identity mentioned in the Torah and distinguished him from anybody else. The father of Safiyyah was a Jew and was knowledgeable about the torah, they went to the prophet (saw) and they did not want to believe in him but they wanted to check if it was true that he was the messenger and when they returned, he asked, "Is it him? As it was in the torah?" he said "yes" and he said that he will have animosity to him as long as he lives.

That identity is what distinguished him (saw) from anybody else it is about what the person believes, his thoughts and ideas, his personality, his style and way of life; like if someone said, "I am a Muslim" or "my Deen is Islam."; he is describing his identity. However if he made it more specific and said, "I am a Muslim who believes in Islam according to Ahl Al Sunnah Wal Jama'ah," then he is distinguishing himself by his identity.

Furthermore, the identity of the individual is different from the identity of the society, because it could be that you have an Islamic identity and yet you are living between the man-made identities of the Kufr society. So the identity is what forms and shapes the behaviour, character and thoughts etc and could be completely different from what is prevalent where you live. In our case, the identity we carry is completely different from the identity of the society and this is an almighty tradition.

[Link: www.alghurabaa.co.uk...]

Messenger in submission. He received from them the oath of allegiance to himself, to heed and obey.” ...( I admit...I dont have a boatload of degrees...But who did they swear to?

During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants they chose a new form for him—that of a giant Sloar. Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you.

#102 Ward

From what I heard one laser guided bomb and one GPS guided bomb were used. I presume the higher accuracy LGB went first and it was followed by the JDAM once the target was possibly obscured by dust etc.

#106 PK:

"Sorry, but I make it a rule never to post gratuitous Adriana Lima pics.

Well, it's really more of a guideline than a rule..."

In my 20 + years of active duty I had the press tag along a couple of times and they were always a hinderance as far as being there with cameras and reporters and it always amazed that more of them don't get killed for the stupid stuff they do. Most of the time they just tagged along on training missions so they didn't have any real need to feel threatened, but like Bear Bryant used to say "Practice the way you are going to play". The habits they developed then would surely transfer over.
My biggest beef with media was the Somalia landing when we greeted with fllod lights at the landing zone effectively knocking out our night vision sights and blinding us while framing us perfectly for the bad guys. fortunately they weren't there.

Islam does care what country it is in...if it is Muslim good...If not make it so Number 1...So the identity is what forms and shapes the behaviour, character and thoughts etc and could be completely different from what is prevalent where you live. In our case, the identity we carry is completely different from the identity of the society and this is an almighty tradition.
[Link: www.alghurabaa.co.uk...]

Haditha continues to unravel:

U.S. father visiting Haditha saw no sign of massacre

An actual Father, in San Fransisco, in a story from Reuters no less.

A Presbyterian minister who was an embedded reporter with his son's U.S. Marine company, which is accused of killing 24 Iraqi civilians in Haditha, said soldiers in private moments gave no indication anything horrible happened in the town.

"It was freezing cold and everybody gathered around this kind of metal fireplace where we chopped up wooden pallets and burnt them and we'd sit there and talk about home and family and the deepest things with these kids," he said in an interview on Thursday. "Not once did anything come up that something horrible had happened."

"They talked about the first battle of Falluja and things that haunt them. They'd talk about they had mortars land right beside them that were duds and three landed right beside them and a third one went off and it injured the buddy next to them and they didn't get hit."

He said he also did not feel animosity from Iraqis he encountered while on patrol with Kilo company in Haditha.

"You would think that if something horrible had happened they would just disappear or just have nothing to do with these folks," Mathes said. "They came out on the streets and brought us bread and tea and invited us into their homes. The businessmen would have them come into their shops."

Christopher Price, a Georgia-based Presbyterian minister who travelled with Mathes to Iraq, also reported he saw no signs of bad feelings between Iraqis and Kilo company.

Sounds just like My Lia.

#89 reader

If the view was zoomed in from a distance it would in fact look slow. It looks that way from other footage of bombings I've seen. They likely dropped from a distance/altitude so as not to give themselves away.

O.T.

Men arrested in London on "chemical suicide vest" tip-off released.

Two men arrested by the Metropolitan Police after a raid on a house in east London have been released without charge, Scotland Yard said.

Police questioned two brothers, one of whom was shot during the raid, on suspicion of terrorism involvement.

Mohammed Abdul Kahar and Abul Koyair, 20, both denied the allegations.

They were held after a major raid in Forest Gate last Friday. Police were said to be searching for chemical materials, but nothing has been found.

#72 storagemanager

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Palestinian Foreign Minister Mahmoud al-Zahar is due to arrive in Tehran on a three-day visit Friday night.

Anyone else think this would be a good time to bomb Tehoran? And fill up the well at Qom with lard at the same time.

Gozer the Gozerian, also known as Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, and The Traveler is a fictional Sumerian god who is the major supernatural enemy in the film, Ghostbusters. (In the actual Sumerian religion a somewhat similar deity is known as Tiamat.) According to other sources, the name "Gozer" is from a documented haunting that came to the attention of Dan Aykroyd, but this is unsubstantiated.

Gozer has two dog-like minions called Zuul ("The Gatekeeper") and Vinz Clortho ("The Keymaster"). Gozer the Traveler appears in one of her pre-chosen forms

#103 Joewilson

He wants to be speaker?

Well of course he does. And if the Dems take the Whitehouse he is bucking for a high cabinet position. Defence Sec? You don't think he was turning on his fellow Marines for a free box of donuts and a cup of decaf did you?

#110 Grunt:

My biggest beef with media was the Somalia landing when we greeted with fllod lights at the landing zone effectively knocking out our night vision sights and blinding us while framing us perfectly for the bad guys.

I remember watching that, trying to reach through the t.v. and strangle the camera crews. At least you guys weren't overly polite to those jerks (IIRC)! "GET THAT [BLEEP] LIGHT OFF ME!"

#31 AI
#64 hous bin pharteen

Each Viper (F-16) self-lased a GBU-38. The video shows, on the first delivery, the word "AREA" just below the target in the center of the cursors. AREA means that the pilot has "captured" the target in Area Track mode. The "L" to the right of AREA flashes when the laser is firing / guiding the GBU. The second attack / delivery does show a weapons countdown in the lower right corner. The laser is on, but isn't firing. The wingie may be lasing this one in.

#119 Grand Junctionite

Thought ground based troops were lasing the target for the airstrike.

Haven't read the thread so sorry if somebody else already expressed this thought:

Do y'all think it's possible that the named/pictured person isn't the informant at all, but somebody they want to put pressure on but getting his Buds to think it was him? Just askin'...

#118 Occasional Reader

At least you guys weren't overly polite to those jerks (IIRC)! "GET THAT [BLEEP] LIGHT OFF ME!"

Well actually we were so scared and I didn't want that wet spot in the front of the BDU's to show up. That was from the surf anyway.

It does look like ABC got this info from official Jordanian and U.S. sources. This does not mean that the comments about press behavior are at all out of place. I hope the day comes soon when people start spitting on reporters as soon as they are identified. We should make them wear special badges all the time so we can load up a big gob until we're close enough. Then let fly.

joewilson says:

I think Zak said something nasty on that stretcher and somebody put him out of his misery.

So who precisely do you think murdered him?

#86 hazmat 6/9/2006 12:56PM PDT

#79 Peacekeeper

"Randi Rhodes is who? A porn star?"
No he was a guitarist for ozzy osbourne

===
Not much of a difference.

#114 Sleipnir
linky no worky

#121 christheprofessor
interesting theory.

This is an intresting post from a balls of steel lib at the Blotter:

You are all so afraid of Al Qaeda.
Al qaeda owns the GOP. They have scared you people like a pack of kindergarden children being read ghost stories. You think the media tells you too much? Whats wrong with you? This news story has been all over the world before ABC posted it? Jordanian news reported it immediatly! You're all sad frightened people. Al qaeda has beaten you and you dont even know it.

Posted by: Mahu | Jun 9, 2006 12:22:51 PM

#127 Killgore Trout

Would be cool to find out later a few decades from now that that is what really happened. By then, of course, we'll all be dead or too old and senile to remember, though...

US refuses to condemn Gaza shelling, says Israel has right to defend itself

The United States refused to condemn Israel for a shelling strike that left seven Palestinian civilians dead in the Gaza Strip on Sunday, saying Israel has "the right to defend itself."

State Department Spokesperson Sean McCormack called on Israel to "think of the circumstances of its actions." (AFP)...Yes by all means think before you defend yourself...maybe you should just call Islam peace and let it rape and plunder your country...SHOW THE WORLD you know how to be a good a victim...Can we just cut the STATE DEPARTMENT CRAP...Islam is the enemy...THE ENEMY HAS A NAME..ISLAM!

OT - From Al-Guardian

A terrorist cell plotted to shoot down an Israeli airliner over Switzerland but was foiled by intelligence services, Swiss prosecutors said yesterday.

Seven people of north African origin are under arrest in connection with the alleged plot, said a statement from the federal prosecutor's office. Officials declined to give further details.

Ever play the game Taboo, where you're not allowed to say certain words? For example, maybe you're not allowed to say "paper" so you go all around it with "wood-pulp product that you write on."
I'm just saying.

128 American Infidel

So that video is from the plane?!?

yes, sorta like the dash board mounted cameras cops have.

Randi Rhodes is who? A porn star?

If so, she's about the same quality as the bloated Ron Jeremy...without the equipment.

#120 Kragar (proud to be kaffir)

I have heard those reports also. But the F 16's were definately lasing. If the ground guys were also painting the target it could have been insurance. IIRC we used to paint targets on the ground and the flyboys would ride their own beams down also. Just sayin.

From what I have been told for sure;

The 2 F16's were at medium altitude, about 12-16000 feet.
they used GBU 38's. I originally thought GBU 12 or 22's (but have heard from friends in country since) and that the F16's lased the targets.

#110 Just_a_grunt,

My biggest beef with media was the Somalia landing when we greeted with fllod lights at the landing zone effectively knocking out our night vision sights and blinding us while framing us perfectly for the bad guys. fortunately they weren't there.

Man, you don't know how badly I was screaming at the TV telling you guys to, "OPEN FIRE!"

Londinistan seething over terror raids
Yahoo pics...
Police go to hell

Hands off muslims, blair go to hell cute kid

Brittish police crusaders

Tony blair terrorist

A legitimate target? my fave, I love the irony. A priceless pic.

#128 AI
The video is Gun Camera footage from the F16 yes.

Why in the world would muslims hate Jews...makes no sense...The State department is at a loss...Qur’an 2:61 “Humiliation and wretchedness were stamped on the Jews and they were visited with Allah’s wrath.” Qur’an 4:160 “For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) in that they hindered many from Allah’s Way, that they took usury, though they were forbidden, and that they devoured men’s wealth on false pretenses, We have prepared for those among them who reject [Islamic] Faith a painful doom.” Qur’an 2:64 “But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you.” Qur’an 33:26 “Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before.” (...I love my COUNTRY BUT THE STATE DEPARTMENT SAYS THE DUMBEST THINGS...THINK BEFORE YOU ACT...HAVE MERCY!)

#139 Killgore Trout

A legitimate target?

Yes, yes he is.

#142 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I assume Charles will find that one, I might mail it in just in case.

AI

Why does it appear that the plane is hovering ?!?

The speed of the plane and the distance from the ground.

Have you ever been in an airplane and looked out the windows?

Why does it appear that the plane is hovering ?!?

I would think that since the plane is moving at such a great speed, it would be much faster...

Welll, they can fly slowly but that slowly?!?...When I was at the Chicago Air & Water Show, the jet did fly at the speed of a propeller powered plane...

Ok I will try to explain it. The aircraft is actually on the bomb run then orbiting. It appears to move slowly but actually is probably doing 300 knots. The camera's on these aircraft can stay on (follow) the target throughout different manuevers, attitudes and speeds. The technology is amazing. This is definately NOT predator footage. It's the attack aircraft. Im not being sarcastic, but it's not WWII anymore. These aren't B29's lol

I put this one in this morning, and I meant it: Perhaps ABC would like to publish the home address of Bob Woodruff so that Islamofascists can finish the job. Shame on you!

"Grand Junctionite" is part of the lying conspiracy of liars who are making up this lie. From the so-called "gun camera footage", it is CLEAR that the building was destroyed by demolition charges that had been previously set. Also, it has been conclusively proven that all Jews received phone calls that morning telling them to stay away from the so-called "safe house".

SAFE HOUSE WAS AN INSIDE JOB!

#150 OR
LMFAO

#101

And in other news, Hamas spokesman X was quoted as saying:

This tragic incident by the Zionist occupiers of deliberately targeting innocent civilians, women, and children shows just how depraved and evil Israel is.

Therefore HAMAS is going to immediately resume its policy of targeting Israeli civilians, women, and children with terrorist attacks.

Seriously, based on the Israeli "mea culpas" and other nearby activity, it sounds like Israel screwed up here. . .though not necessarily. There was some terrorist activity nearby, and if Israel's aim was less than perfect, under the rules of war, the aggressors would be reponsible for return fire that hurt civilians.

Also, I wouldn't put it past HAMAS to manufacture a sympathy incident like this to shore up domestic and foreign support now that its flagging.

OR,
Well some on the left are implying this was a "stunt"

Whose word ...Israel or Hamas...gee thats hard.

www.globalsecurity.org...] target="_blank">

This is DaBomb.

They don't really post every comment. I gave ABC News a complete, step-by-step description of what I think Brian Ross should do with his 2005 George Polk Award, and it never showed up.

[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

ooops

#129 Black George Bush

I think the boy is projecting. That and he does not know how to use a ?. We aint afraid of Al Queada. We wanna kill all the little bastards. We are mad. Angry. Yes. We do not want anymore Americans killed. But afraid? Puh-lease.

These libs just do not get it. By far the vast majority of cops are conservatives. Ditto Firefighters. And the Military? By far conservative. I could go on and on and on. These are the people you would assume to be cowards?

The core liberal? BWHAHAHAHHHAHAHHA

I'm not troubled much by the leaked name of the informant. I'm a bit more troubled by this...
Cell phone tracking helped find al-Zarqawi

Intelligence from cell phone technology helped U.S. forces find and kill Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, said an Iraqi army colonel Friday in an exclusive interview with CNN.

Col. Dhiya Tamimi said he worked with U.S. forces to monitor al-Zarqawi and his associates' cell phones, helping to lead to Wednesday night's airstrike on a safe house near Baquba.

I'm sure they know we use cell phones to track them but it can't be a good idea to let them know that whatever cell Zarky was using is no longer safe.

With 160+ comments, I'm sure someone has said this, but as I was reading that story it occurred to me the Pentagon may have intentionally put this out to make Zarcoweenie's pals nervous about who the sntich is, and hopefully start some in-fighting over the issue. I mean, I've now read three different ways they supposedly caught this guy -- phone, satellite and now via snitch. I wonder ...

This is the same buttmunch blog that reported a couple of weeks ago that Hastert was under active FBI investigation and then when the Deputy AG denined it, claimed to stand behind the story while going back and quietly changing the story to conform to the new reality without even so much as a correction notice.

Actually, this is the same buttmunch blogger that had to connect explosives to some pickup trucks to demonstrate that they blow up in crashes on a TV expose show some years back.

Just another "nincompoop in underpants", but this one is paid by a news outlet.

I am really quite amazed at the comments posted on the ABC blog.

#103 joewilson

I think Zak said something nasty on that stretcher and somebody put him out of his misery.

Stuck on stupid today, Joe? Maybe the alien exploded out of his stomach and did a little song and dance.

Nobody would "put him out of his misery". He would have been too valuable for interrogation - hopefully at the hands of his countrymen.

It appears that ABC has blocked that story. I can link to any other story on the roll, but when I select the one Charles mentioned, the story appears for a split second and then vanishes. Perhaps the comments were too unfriendly? I didn't get to see them.

Is anyone else having that problem linking to that story or is it just me?

mich-again (#164),

I can still get to it. Their page kinda formats funny. Did you scroll to the bottom?

#164 Mich

Nope. I think its you. Its on the left side part way down. Comments are below that. The right 2/3 of the page is just white space.

Thanks guys. Newsflash: I'm not the sharpest pencil in the pouch.
:-@

I posted there twice basically laying out the charges against the
Liberal main stream news media
Liberal college professors
Democrat senators...

Apparently they either stopped the postings
or Deleted mine because...

I Tell it like it is...

they are all
Guilty of
Treason
Spying for the Islamic terrorists
Aiding and abbetting the Terrorists
Encouraging the terrorists
Disclosing troop deployments , armaments, tactics, schedules

Helping the enemy moral (abu grave shown 6000 times) while 2 pictures of US soldiers helping the iraqis and doing GOOD..

I state this publicly

when Not if but when the ISLAMIC terrorists hit the USA again the REAL americans will now have three Groups of targets...

1. the ISLAMIC terrorists and their suporters
2. The liberal reporters, execs, cameramen and college professors
3. the laywers who support the islamo fasists like the ACLU and others..

When we are hit again
We will first take out ALL of the Islamic terrorists in the USA..
Then their leftist supporters...
and Nothing will stop americas wrath...

We will NOT tolerate..
TRAITORS and Subversives..
Even if they are
Muslims
journalists
senators
lawyers...

Period...

A little OT, maybe.
Yesterday I visited BBC Online and read the comments under a story about Zarq's demise. (If you've never visited there, you should know that registered visitors can "vote" for a comment). While there were the usual terrorist apologists from the UK and beyond (about 25%), they were receiving around seven or eight nods, while the "Whoo hoo the a**hole's dead," comments were getting twenty or thirty.

One person likened his death to dropping a bomb on Hitler's bunker and suggested anyone who didn't cheer his death was willfully ignorant- that person got 40 recommendations.

Anyway, I think the silent majority is out there and growing, and is getting wise to the media's endless manipulation of the facts to suit their agenda. The next step is to stop being silent.

Not that anyone here is, of course!

WOW...did they get blasted! God knows they deserve it, however I doubt they even read their own blog.

I wonder how long this will last. ABC just got a dose of reality.

171 mattm

ABC just got a dose of reality. Grasshopper,

Confuscious say: Just one dose of medicine will not cure you, but it might kill you.