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Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 2:30:06 pm PDT
Israeli planes attack bridge in Gaza.
Vital Perspective will be live-blogging, and Carl in Jerusalem also has lots of coverage.
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Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 2:30:06 pm PDT
Israeli planes attack bridge in Gaza.
Vital Perspective will be live-blogging, and Carl in Jerusalem also has lots of coverage.
284 comments
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mingjaiyo Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:33:16pm |
About time-IDF/IAF-kick ass and the hell with takin' names!
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Abu Bin Squid Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:33:52pm |
Now is the time Israel should say enough is enough.
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TotallySirius Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:34:32pm |
Go IDF
Dismantle the 'Palestinian Authority' and kill Fatah and Hamas.
Don't stop till the job is done.
Ohlmert said the end of Israeli restraint is near.
I sure hope so.
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ibrodsky Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:34:41pm |
Go IDF!
Do it right: crush all of the terrorist groups and the PA. Put an end to qassam rocket fire at Israeli communities.
Don't leave Gaza until the Palestinians unconditionally surrender.
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hornet Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:34:52pm |
Bring victory for Israel and defeat for the demonic evil of Gaza.
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wccawa Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:35:30pm |
"We are ready to confront any stupid act that the Zionists might commitI am already a walking, talking dead man," said Abu Obeida, spokesman for the military wing of Hamas...
Gotta love these guys. A big hand for Abu, folks! 72 raisins in 3, 2, 1...
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Chuck Pelto Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:36:04pm |
TO: Charles Johnson
RE: Prep Fire!
"IDF Preparing for Gaza Incursion" -- Charles Johnson
From what I'm seeing, they're conducting preparatory fires into the area they intend to make the MBA [Main Battle Area].
Currently, it's the Forward Edge of the Battle Area [FEBA]. But I suppose that with their 'pro-active defense', the FEBA will become the MBA.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. To our Israeli comrades-in-arms...
...good hunting and good luck.
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michael78244 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:36:18pm |
What is this 2500 Egyptian troops along the border? Don't they know that is racist? The ACLU shall come to the rescue!
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hadanuf Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:36:41pm |
For every injury, for every rocket, for every bullet, for every bomb, one hectare of seized land with a commitment to keep it forever!
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SoCalJustice Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:36:44pm |
The militants told residents to leave the area.
Sure they did.
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:37:14pm |
About damn time! Go get 'em Israel!
Heeeyyy, Egypt! Y'all gonna have some cousins heading north real soon. Let's get those Egyptian hospitality suites set up!
or hospitals, whatever...
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Ringo the Gringo Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:37:18pm |
If it's war they want, it's war they'll get.
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rw in san diego Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:37:56pm |
Prayer for the Well-Being
of the Israel Defense Forces
May He who blessed our forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, bless the soldiers of the Israel Defence Forces, who stand watch over our land and the cities of our Lord, from the Lebanese border to the desert of Egypt and from the great sea to the verge of the wilderness, on land, in the air, and at sea. May God strike down before them our enemies who rise against us. May the Holy One save and spare our soldiers from all forms of woe and distress, of affliction and illness, and may He invest their every action with blessing and success. May he vanquish by their means those who hate us, and may He adorn them with a crown of deliverance and a mantle of victory. Thus may the verse be fulfilled: “For it is the Lord your God who marches with you to do battle for you against your enemy, to bring you victory.” Now let us respond “Amen.”
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hornet Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:38:03pm |
OT... Soccer world cup better than sex...
[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]
For nuclear tinckerbell and all other anti-football (soccer) lizards. Go England!
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Canadastani Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:38:22pm |
neutralize every militant possible
collect every weapons stash possible
flood every tunnel possible
Destroy Gaza's capacity to make war on Israeli citizens
Win, then "negotiate".
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TotallySirius Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:39:34pm |
CNN.com says there is no invasion,that it is only an airstrike targeting an area used to lauch rockets.
Yeah,sure.
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Evan from NZ Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:40:42pm |
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:41:00pm |
"We are ready to confront any stupid act that the Zionists might commit," said Abu Obeida, spokesman for the military wing of Hamas, the Islamic group that controls the Palestinian parliament.
A quote rich in irony.
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Spiny Norman Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:41:18pm |
I guess we'll see if the Hamas/Splodeydope Brigades goons are lying about the their WMD capabilities or not. If the Palis actually use chemical or bio-weapons, I would feel no sympathy for them if the IDF flattens Gaza.
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hornet Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:42:00pm |
Time for Israel to say enough is enough. Obliterate the enemy before they bomb a bus full of Israeli children. There is NOTHING that demented palis will not do to innocent Israelis.
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:43:01pm |
@ 20 Canadastani
negotiate nothing, not a damn square foot of land. Nothing. Take it, keep it. Tell 'em to FOAD already!
These stupid savages have continued to show their collective butts to the world. No one, especially Israel, owes them the sweat off of my Salty Balls (sorry Chef!)
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Golem Akbar Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:43:11pm |
It was wrong to give up on Gaza without any kind of agreement with the Palis. Even though the agreement would have been immediately violated. The Palis have a thugocracy and their defeat won't help much.
Man oh man, my head is about to explode.
The only high road is survival. Israel has no other choice: survive or die.
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Poimanester Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:43:16pm |
#20
Win, then "negotiate".
Better yet, win, then repopulate.
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Silhouette Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:44:47pm |
(game show whisper on)
The time to beat is...6 days.
(game show whisper off)
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David E Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:44:51pm |
Hope/trust they bring enough line charges for the IED's.
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Buckaroo Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:47:22pm |
# 34 S
but they only have one front at the moment -- shouldn't we knock it down to 4?
:-)
:-)
/Rescue your brother and bring justice to his captors IDF
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jehu Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:47:32pm |
Anticipating an invasion, Palestinian militants piled up sand on roads near the border and in Gaza City. "We are ready to confront any stupid act that the Zionists might commit," said Abu Obeida, spokesman for the military wing of Hamas, the Islamic group that controls the Palestinian parliament.
Said sparky with his water pistol while facing the 155 mm Howitzer. Dumb bastards.
The perpetual knife fighters against the riflemen.
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:48:04pm |
Go Israel, do a complete sweep, set them back to square zero.
Afterwards, capture all the documents and intelligence you can and pick up the original Hamas Charter while you are at it.
The charter which says:
Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).
[Link: www.mideastweb.org...]
Long live the Apes and Pigs (Infidels).
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WrathofG-d Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:48:48pm |
If you are into this sort of thing:
Invoking God's protection for the members of the Israel Defense Forces.
He Who blessed our forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob -- may He bless the fighters of the Israel Defense Forces, who stand guard over our land and the cities of our God, from the border of the Lebanon to the desert of Egypt, and from the Great Sea unto the approach of the Aravah, on the land, in the air, and on the sea.
May the Almighty cause the enemies who rise up against us to be struck down before them. May the Holy One, Blessed is He, preserve and rescue our fighters from every trouble and distress and from every plague and illness, and may He send blessing and success in their every endeavor.
May He lead our enemies under our soldiers' sway and may He grant them salvation and crown them with victory. And may there be fulfilled for them the verse: For it is the Lord your God, Who goes with you to battle your enemies for you to save you.
Now let us respond: Amen.
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William Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:48:56pm |
Hope they can locate and rescue any hostages.
But it's never a bad time to kill islamic terrrists -- let the tanks roll.
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:49:30pm |
34 -
You soaked my keyboard with diet pepsi.
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:50:13pm |
#29 taxfreekiller,
Don't you mean ... no nuts?
:D
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DIAMONDMASC Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:50:24pm |
Actualy this is the hamas way to cut overhead and reduce payroll
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rw in san diego Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:50:39pm |
#38 Buckaroo
"Rescue your brother and bring justice to his captors IDF"
From your fingertips to G-d's ear.
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Canadastani Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:50:58pm |
#18 hornet
Thank you... great link
now, what was this thread about, that just took me to another world
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:51:57pm |
just an observation...
many of us know that World War IV began a long time ago. This is the high-water mark where the rest of the world will finally acknowledge that this is a battle between civilization and the evil orks. There is no difference. There is evil and there is good!
As God as my witness we will not waver, in spite of POS' like Kerry, Kennedy, Murtha, and the NYT's!
Crush them like cock-roaches, IDF! World-Cup, who cares! I want to see Islael retake Gaza, repopulate Gaza, and rebuild the Temple! Enough foreplay, let's get this mother on!
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hornet Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:51:59pm |
Lord G-d of Israel, I ask that you will bring fear, panic and confusion to Israels' enemies in Gaza so that they will fight and kill each other on the road to a just Israeli victory.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:53:03pm |
I do wonder if all this is a feint of some sort. I'd think the IDF is usually less noisy/obvious about their intentions.
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:55:32pm |
19kilo ,
how can evil be assimilated? no to be critical here, but that is outright stupid.
evil can do no harm when it has assumed room temperature.
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Canadastani Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:56:06pm |
#31 Bulgur
Trust me, by negotiate, I meant "now that we have disarmed you and rounded you up, we have decided to take back Gaza permanently. You can take a bus to Egypt or a bus to the West Bank. For active terrorists, we offer the choice of prison or a firing squad. We are open to negotiations."
There is no point to negotiating with people whose word is worthless. That goes for you too, Iran.
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pointed stick Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:56:40pm |
so egypt's got 2500 at the ready in the north and who is watching the idf's back as they press into gaza? i am sure olmert considered the potential for regional escalation but i really don't like the way this looks.
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jimmytheclaw Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:56:43pm |
#11 Perplexed 6/27/2006 02:36PM PDT
March to the sea?
like sherman
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tomilio Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:56:46pm |
You guys seen this on Jihad WAtch?
[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]
Perhaps this is Iran's and Syria's plan to do some nasty stuff in the region and make it look like Israels fault.
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:56:51pm |
19kilo ,
I wasn't calling you stupid, just the idea. I don't think a rabid pitbull can be assimilated. That's all.
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Poimanester Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:56:56pm |
I do wonder if all this is a feint of some sort. I'd think the IDF is usually less noisy/obvious about their intentions.
Yes. It's the road to Tehran.
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wccawa Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:57:52pm |
I note with interest the relative lack of sternly worded statements usually tossed about by other countries in this kind of situation. In fact, it's pretty damn quiet.
Possible interpretation:
OK, IDF. Go do what you have to do, make it quick, make it clean, but just make it go away.
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sharona Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:58:12pm |
SoCal Justice:
The militants told residents to leave the area.
Sure they did.
Like you, I'm more likely to believe that the bombing of the bridge told the residents to "Run!" before any so-called militants did.
May god blass Gilad Shalit, and return him home. May god bless the IDF and keep them from harm.
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GregInSeattle Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:58:35pm |
I'm hugely pro-Israel, but if they invade Gaza, then what? Re-occupation? Is that what Israel wants? I can see the value of going in and wiping out the hamas/fatah/islamic jihad cells, but then what?
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:58:54pm |
#51 19kilo,
Sorry, there will be no assimilation. They (pali's) will refuse all assimilation attempts.
They are addicted to that fake religion Islam (a totalitarian political system with appended evil religious trappings) that Mo started 1400 years ago.
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Poimanester Tue, Jun 27, 2006 12:59:35pm |
#56, Yes, like Sherman.
Don't you mean Shermansky?
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:00:34pm |
#63 GregInSeattle
How about building a Super WalMart?
Screw the Jordyptians!
Go IDF. Run through them like crap through a goose!
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TalkinKamel Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:01:01pm |
#66 Carl in Jerusalem
HaShem bless and keep you, and Israel, Carl---and you stay safe, and keep your head down!
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Poimanester Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:01:10pm |
I can see the value of going in and wiping out the hamas/fatah/islamic jihad cells, but then what?
The world's biggest supper Walmart with adequate parking.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:01:22pm |
#63 Greg:
I can see the value of going in and wiping out the hamas/fatah/islamic jihad cells
I think that's what they have in mind. Very, very doubtful that re-taking Gaza (permanently) is the plan. It will be more like a massive punishment raid, and hopefully LOTS of attrition of h/f/i.j. bad guys.
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:01:36pm |
#53 BulgarWheat,
evil can do no harm when it has assumed room ambient temperature.
There fix it for you.
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GregInSeattle Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:01:56pm |
Maybe kick out the Palestinians? But no one wants them!
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Judith Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:01:58pm |
#17 Amen.
Please God, full victory to Israel and not one hair on a single Jewish or Jewish supporter's head harmed.
As for Hamas...well may they suffer the fate of the Caananites. The IDF should start with the leader in Damascus.
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Nannette Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:02:39pm |
I wonder if the terrorists will use the military hardware that was supplied to them by the US via Egypt?
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:03:08pm |
Piglet-U93
thanks! That did fix it up just right!
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:03:52pm |
#75 Poimanester
it's not only timing, but also in the wrist I hear.
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BH Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:03:58pm |
I'm hugely pro-Israel, but if they invade Gaza, then what? Re-occupation?
"Trail of Tears" 'em. If they're Arabs, they're a long way from the Arabian peninsula.
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Perplexed Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:03:59pm |
Think American Civil War. Think Atlanta. Think devestation 60 miles wide. Think of an army on the march to teach the American South a lesson that they remember to this very day.
March on IDF.
As far as that goes do a google search on a guy by the name of kurdi bear.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:04:12pm |
Good hunting Averil. Come home safe.
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pointed stick Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:04:39pm |
#74 Judith
The IDF should start with the leader in Damascus.
oh, i think mashaal has a "candy gram" coming his way...
he should avoid answering the door, phone or starting his car for the indefinite future.
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Judith Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:04:39pm |
Maybe kick out the Palestinians? But no one wants them!
The last thing the Arab world wants if for the Palestinians to go elsewhere. How can they play the victim card, blame Israel for everything, and excuse anything horrible done in the name of Islam on the Palestinian suffering if they are forced out? Besides, no one in their right mind wants Hamasniks moving in. if they did, how long would it be before they start bombing shoting and murdering their Egyptian brother?
5...4...3...2...
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attentionseeker Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:05:21pm |
#17 rw, hearty Amen. Hope the Israelis are safe, and continue the prosecution of this ongoing war until the Pali's are pushed out of Gaza.
#23 Evan, Ellis Sharp sounds like our own low cerebral blood flow champion, shukri!
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GregInSeattle Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:05:30pm |
Egyptian officials said the government asked Hamas to release the soldier and has deployed 2,500 extra troops along the border with Gaza to prevent an influx of Palestinians if Israel invades. Egypt also imposed a nighttime curfew on residents along the border.
But I thought they were all Muslims and Arab brothers?
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Buck Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:06:05pm |
#63 GregInSeattle
In, do damage, and leave.
Show of force, makes Hamas look bad, and MAYBE they will think twice befor ekidnapping again.
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pointed stick Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:06:55pm |
#78 OR
darn, you beat me by 1 minute with the candy gram comment...
"mmm, mashaal like candy"
"boom"
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:06:57pm |
Another thing just dawned on me...
These savages have been yammering 'bout running the Jews into the sea since 1948. How 'bout the IDF runs these swine into the sea and out of Gaza!
Now that's a pretty good idea, if I must say so myself!
Rebuild the Temple!
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grayp Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:07:28pm |
#27 OR
AM YISRAEL CHAI!
Ya know, you won't belive me for awhile
But you're not an athiest.
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aaron's rantblog Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:07:53pm |
Go Full Metal Dresden until we hear the sweet two words of real peace: Unconditional Surrender.
No more bellus interruptus.
Finish the War of Independence until there are no more opponents.
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moishe Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:07:53pm |
This bit from Av Harachamim in the weekly services always sticks with me- and I think of it at this time-
"Let it be known among the nations in our sight that You avenge the spilled blood of Your servants.
And it says: "For He who exacts retribution for spilled blood remembers them
He does not forget the cry of the humble."
And it says:
"He will execute judgement among the corpse-filled nations
crushing the rulers of the mighty land;
from the brook by the wayside he will drink
then he will hold his head high".
My thoughts and prayers are with Gilad Shalit, Eliyahu Asheri, and the IDF...
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Goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:08:29pm |
#63 Greg in Seattle
Then Gaza is a spoil of war and Israel resettles it as conquers, not as occupiers.
No more Mr. Nice Guy.
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NY Nana Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:08:38pm |
If Sharon and Olmert *spit* had not given away Gaza, etc.?
Israel must re-take all of Gaza, and if the cult of islam monsters have harmed the 19-year old soldier and 18 year old civilian that they have kidnapped? An eye for an eye, a thousand fold.
Remember the fearless Israel not all that many years ago? Entebbe? The Six-Day War? And now? They hit empty buildings.
Enough! AM YISROEL CHAI!
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wccawa Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:08:43pm |
#84
True. You'll notice that the Egyptian troops* are lining up on the southern Gaza border to prevent anyone from getting out. They despise the Palis, just like every other Arab country does.
They are not deploying to fight the IDF.
*Bwaaahahahahahaha!
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KevinV Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:09:13pm |
Look, guys, let's not get carried away here. Israel is a looong way from declaring war on the P.A. or Hamas, let alone "Trail of Tearing" them.
Look: from the current update at the Jerusalem Post, under a picture datelined a few minutes ago:
Mohammed Abdel Al, a spokesman for the Popular Resistance Committees, a violent group with ties to the Hamas-led Palestinian government, speaking to journalists in Gaza City Tuesday.
In other words, the guy who leads the guys who have *publicly claimed responsibility* for the act of war and the kidnapping is holding gosh darn press conferences right out in the open under the harsh kleig lights of the cameras.
Now, I ask you: does that sound like that act of a man who has just had war declared on him or who is the least frightened that it would happen?
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equable Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:09:39pm |
# 17 - Amen.
With the grace of God and hearts filled with mercy for the innocent, may the IDF successfully rescue their brother and comrade.
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:09:39pm |
#81 Perplexed
uh, there are more than a few Southern lizards here! Besides, we haven't surrendered a damn thing yet!
What you talkin' about Willis?
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aaron's rantblog Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:10:17pm |
Put Condi and the Saudi-pensioned State Department on call-block.
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19kilo Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:11:16pm |
Yeah room temp would be nicer. Was going for an Ann Coulter quote there.
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nuggsgalore Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:11:37pm |
anybody know where exactly the bridge that was hit is at?
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txag85 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:12:22pm |
Fox News reports bombing has cut Gaza City off from rest of Gaza Strip.
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Perplexed Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:12:39pm |
99, then you remember, eh? It was Sherman's march that demoralized the South and forced a cease fire. It worked once and it will work if the IDF chooses to make use of it.
Texas born here.
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abolitionist Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:13:05pm |
Unlike June 1967, the time to beat may be internet time.
And the end time. That too.
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zionist-crusader Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:13:24pm |
#23 Evan from NZ,
Wow, I've never seen a person argue that BBC is actually pro-Israel. Deluded nutjob, indeed.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:13:42pm |
Smash Evil! GO IDF. May your ordnance find only the Guilty.
...and may there be nothing left of the Guilty but fragments when you're done
This whole thing stinks to me. Two months of planning for this kidnap operation, hints that the Israeli guy is being held in a "refugee camp" (what do you want to bet the TV cameras are already set up to record the ensuing 'massacre'?), Syrian protection for the fellow who orchestrated it appears practically overnight, the Muslim Brotherhood calling for war in Egypt, Israeli border guards revealing (via Michael Totten) that Hezbo'/Iran has been brewing "something big" in South Lebanon for months now...
Can we get this thing started already? Pussyfooting around costs more lives in the long run...
Does Israel take volunteers? :p
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:16:16pm |
The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas)
From Article Eight:
Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
From Article Thirteen:
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
Sounds like Islam to me!
ROPMA (Religion of peace my a$$).
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Adrenalyn Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:18:49pm |
nothing to see here
Olmert says it is a "limited operation"
in other words
a bit more than a strongly worded letter
but not enough to stop the terrorism
wish I could cheer but I have to bring everyone down to earth with a reality check
nothing is going to change
another day
another blownup snackbar
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Adrenalyn Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:20:36pm |
on the other hand
Jimmy Carter didn't even try this with the hostages taken by the Iranians
so I guess we should be "happy"
but for crying out loud
why don't the Joos elect someone with balls
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formercorpsman Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:21:17pm |
My prayers are with the brave, who seek the path of justice, knowing all too well, danger waits for them at every step.
Go IDF.
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Sil Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:22:37pm |
#17/#41
Amen!
On a totally different note, as a can of whup-ass isn't very tasty, although it is satisfying, I think today is a very good day to send a pizza to the IDF:
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Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:23:06pm |
Meanwhile, NPR is busy pimping the "Prisoners' Document"!
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Silhouette Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:31:28pm |
#115 Cato the Elder
Meanwhile, NPR is busy pimping the "Prisoners' Document"!
If you hold the document up to the light, at an angle just so, and kinda glance at it sideways while blurring your eyes, it clearly implies that Hamas will recognize the right of Israelis to breathe.
/MSM
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Cartman Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:32:02pm |
#111
wish I could cheer but I have to bring everyone down to earth with a reality check
Well by golly, thanks for setting us straight.
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transient Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:33:34pm |
Re: Prisoners' Document. CNN (TV) story banner: Hamas and Fatah Recognize Israel. I kid you not.
Big lies:
Check is in the mail.
This won't hurt a bit.
Most trusted name in News.
According to Jpost:
The original document called for "restricting" attacks on Israelis to the territories captured by Israel in 1967. The revised document, however, calls for "focusing" the attacks on these territories, implying that the Palestinian groups could still carry out attacks inside Israel proper.
Although the document calls for the establishment of a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem, it does not talk about a two-state solution or Israel's right to exist.
Maybe, just for giggles, someone in the MSM might just READ the d*mn thing.
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Nannette Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:37:21pm |
Israel needs a leader like Churchill, but they got a Chamberlain!
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ibrodsky Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:38:24pm |
Isn't the leadership of CAIR due for a face-to-face meeting with their Gaza masters?
This would be a good time.
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Silhouette Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:38:44pm |
AP says they are up to three bridges now.
Oh look, written by our old pal IBRAHIM BARZAK.
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looking closely Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:39:44pm |
#11 Perplexed
March to the sea?
Don't hold your breath. Ain't going to happen.
Let's see what (if anything) Israel can get out of this attack, other than its own casualties and the inevitable allegations of targeting civilians.
If they manage to capture or kill a few senior level Hamas TERRORISTS (sorry, I meant "militants"), then maybe this will be worth it.
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TotallySirius Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:41:47pm |
Gee I hope the pali engineers and steelworkers can rebuild the bridges.
Oooops paliland has no engineers or steelworkers.
Looks like they'll be swimming across those rivers for a looong time.
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Ringo the Gringo Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:42:31pm |
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fox3 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:43:06pm |
Israel has shown more "restraint" than anyone should ever have had to ever and they have done it for long enough.
There comes a time when enough has long, long since been enough.
The paleoswineans have proven for decades and decades and decades that they are unfit, unable and unwilling to join the human race.
Even the arabs don't have any use for these sub-human [bigoted word]s.
Good luck and God Bless IDF, be safe and come home all in one piece after the toilet is flushed and thoroughly scrubbed out!
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Silhouette Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:43:51pm |
Knocking down the bridges would cut Gaza in two, Palestinian security officials said.
Hereafter referred to as Ga and Za.
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transient Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:45:44pm |
I also don't think the IDF will be pushing the Palestinians into the sea, or into Sinai. I think the best we can hope for, if Olmert locates his testicles, is something like Beirut 1982. Do massive damage (more than Beirut) and when the world complains (which they will effective 60 seconds after commencement of invasion), offer the terrorists the option of rapid transit to Tunisia, or hell.
Israel will not massacre civilians. Israel will not enforce population transfer. Israel will not allow resettlement in Gaza. To believe otherwise is to engage in wishful thinking.
Politics have probably irreversibly moved in the direction of autonomy if not statehood, however little the Palestinians deserve it, so the sensible thing to do after de-infesting and disarming Gaza is to try to set up some sort of Mandate authority to establish peaceful, organized, non-corrupt infrastructure with the help and boundless coffers of the international community. Israel to be responsible for security matters at minimum, because no one else can be trusted to do it.
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von Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:46:59pm |
Apologies if this has already been said, but:
From one of TFA's:
Israeli military officials said a limited operation has been authorized for southern Gaza, aimed at "terrorist infrastructure." The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters.
Interesting concept. Not letting officials talk to reporters. We could learn a lesson from that methinks.
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Poimanester Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:47:52pm |
Scratch one power plant.
GAZA (Reuters) - Israeli helicopter gunships fired at least two missile into a Palestinian power plant in the central Gaza Strip on Wednesday, cutting electrical supplies to large areas of the coastal territory, witnesses said.
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:47:58pm |
# 125 TotallySirius
the only thing Jordyptians can build is bombs. Ever drive your car across a bomb?
me neither.
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TotallySirius Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:49:35pm |
#132 BW
Look at #131
Looks like the lights are going to be off for a looong time too.
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Yossarian Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:49:37pm |
G-d bless the IDF, and may Gilad Shalit return home safely. Such extraordinary and brave soldiers.
I'd love to see the IDF go in and kick some serious terrorist @ss, but--will Olmert actually allow them to do that? Everything I've seen from his administration so far indicates that he won't--at least yet--agree to serious military operations. I really hope I'll be proven wrong very very soon...
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mootata Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:50:51pm |
Where is Shukri now that his muslum brethern are going to get their ass kicked again for the umptheen time?
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hornet Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:51:21pm |
Israeli copters strike Gaza power plant...
[Link: today.reuters.com...]
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:52:18pm |
#133 TotallySirius
but, with no power how are they going to email their masters in Tehran.
Geez, Israel can be so mean sometimes!
/sarc, if I must.
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tomilio Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:53:34pm |
Oh the horror! Not only do these scumbags use women and children as cover for their activities. They use pretty cute mannequins with some nice bathing suits as well.
Check out the second picture here:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Where is the ACLU on this one?
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Yossarian Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:53:35pm |
Doss #137
It's a 7 hour difference, I believe, so it's about 2 in the morning there
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Nannette Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:54:16pm |
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SevoGuy Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:54:27pm |
May the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, the Father of Jesus Christ grant us an all-out war against the Satanic forces of Islam. May they perish into the abyss of Hell to suffer with their false prophet Muhammed.
The Israeli army will vanquish the army of Satan swiftly and may the United States of America fight alongside their brothers. Grant this O Lord.
This simple prayer will one day be answered.
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TotallySirius Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:54:36pm |
#137 Doss
It will be morning there soon.
They are 9 or 10 hrs ahead of us
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TotallySirius Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:57:17pm |
ooops Israel is near the line between +2 and +3 hours GMT
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ibrodsky Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:58:28pm |
Good to see Israel knocked out the power station.
Bring the Islamofascists to their knees!
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storagemanager Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:00:43pm |
We will not negotiate with anyone over our undeniable right to access and use nuclear technology".• Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, state-run news agency Fars, 27 June 2006
I think something could be up...maybe not just a normal run of the mill raid.
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Silhouette Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:01:42pm |
There was a powerplant in Gaza?
I'm genuinely surprised.
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moishe Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:03:18pm |
I suggest they offer an "alternative" power station at full blast 24/7 with hundreds of loudspeakers until the palis submit and surrender...
[Link: www.80smusiclyrics.com...]
"Some like it hot" would be my first choice...
"FFFEEELLL THE HEEEAAATT..."
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transient Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:05:02pm |
#152 Silhouette
Me too, actually. I thought they got all of their electric from Israel. Probably most of it, anyway.
I assume the power station hit is prelude to imminent move into Gaza. Night is our friend.
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Catttt Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:05:11pm |
139 tomilio
I have to remember not to be smoking when I look at your links (choking hazard). Or drinking anything.
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Poimanester Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:05:54pm |
Let's see, the militants are taking up positions behind earthworks and assorted garbage. Wow. What a target.
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Catttt Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:06:00pm |
Fox is now showing live pics of the IDF massed on the Gaza border. Live coverage all night, they say.
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cicero05 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:06:10pm |
This will be a new experience for Hamas. An enemy with guns.
Here's to hoping they enjoy the change of pace!
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Owl Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:06:42pm |
You were warned. . . .
G-d be with Israel. You have taken more, and shown more restraint than any nation and people should...
May G-d be with you, as He always Is and may you be fierce and protected as you defend yourself, and attack terrorists for your own peace, and the peace of the world. May you leave no terrorist standing.
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greenmiler Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:06:55pm |
they need to move in and not leave..they shouldn't have left to begin with..
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Ann Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:07:10pm |
Get 'Er Done, IDF! My prayers are with all of their troops to clean out those rat nests. The Israelis know where they are...
While we are waiting for news, reaganite found this trailer for an independent film called Young Americans. Some angry thoughts about American traitors like Moore, Kerry, Murth, etc. from our soldiers who are making history, not just watching it.
*The lyrics in the song is not work safe, but the whole video is awesome with the lyrics!
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:07:18pm |
#131--It's heartwarming to see the IDF do their part to fight global warming!
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:11:36pm |
Gaza had a power plant. I guess there will a run on batteries and price hiking.
Not to worry they can always fire their guns in the air to create intermittent light for walking about.
In complete darkness are Burkas still required?
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Doss Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:12:47pm |
The annual convention of the Islamic Circle of North America should have a lot to talk about now. I'm sure there will be many intemperate things said about Israel there that would be good to have on tape.
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Kaintuck Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:13:46pm |
Kol Yisrael web broadcasts
This is a somewhat delayed feed, and I think they run in 15 minute segments to E. Americas in English, Spanish and French. The Hebrew broadcasts may be closer to live. Poke around on the site to see what you can find.
[Link: www.iba.org.il...]
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:14:41pm |
128 Silhouette
Hereafter referred to as Ga and Za.
I laughed.
Hard.
:D
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:15:37pm |
(Oh, dear. My boss in the office next to me is singing. Time to fire up The Cult "She Sells Sanctuary" on iTunes.)
(Ahhh, that's better.)
Anyway: All your power plants are belong to us.
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scott in east bay Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:16:07pm |
Ann, those are some ANGRY boys! I wouldn't want to be on the bad side of those guys.
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Silhouette Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:17:08pm |
Israel has slapped a land and sea blockade on Gaza, cutting off people's movements and shipments of fuel and food, nine months after returning control of the territory to the Palestinians
Those poor people. How will they live without fuel? /
They piled gasoline-soaked tires in the streets.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:19:52pm |
oh YEAH baby, that's one good rocker.
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Cartman Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:21:47pm |
#162 Ann
Totally awesome video. I'd not seen that one. Please thank Reaganite, and tell him we miss his presence here.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:21:57pm |
Oh, and... Not that I advocate underestimatinating the enemy or anything (I believe Sun Tzu had a few things to say about that)... But if you want an indication of the kind of razor-sharp, penetrating intellects the IDF is up against, have a look at this picture here:
Somebody might want to point out that, you know... there's this huge open space immediately to the side of the wall which appears plenty big enough for a tank to drive through. Thereby enabling the tank to like - wait for it - drive around the little pile of stones there.
I keep forgetting that science is against Islam. They need to have these things explained to them.
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storagemanager Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:22:21pm |
Tensions have been rising since an Israeli soldier was kidnapped but the Israel Defense Forces told CNN that tanks massed at the Gaza border are not on the move.
Israel has no right to cause Muslims stress!
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Ann Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:22:54pm |
#173 scott in east bay
I wouldn't want to be on the bad side of those guys.
Me neither! I thought that the video was a great comparison of the spoiled brats, both old and young, that our Military defends.
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transient Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:24:08pm |
#170 Kaintuck
I am listening to Kol Yisrael in Hebrew. To my intense disappointment, there is no live coverage of anything.
I guess there are things we don't "need to know." At least not yet.
There is news on the hour and if anything comes up I'll mention it--but sounds like the foreign media may get it first or simultaneously.
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Ann Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:26:23pm |
#178 Cartman
Totally awesome video. I'd not seen that one. Please thank Reaganite, and tell him we miss his presence here.
Done.
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wccawa Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:26:37pm |
#179 Pawn
2000 lb. block of concrete: $387
Finding two Palis capable of stacking them properly: $20
The feeling of Coca Cola shooting through my nostrils as I saw your link: Priceless
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:29:48pm |
#179 Pawn:
Somebody might want to point out that, you know... there's this huge open space immediately
Foolish infidel, you're only seeing half the plan. Once the concrete blocks are in place, they plan to paint a fake tunnel entrance on them, so that the Zionists tanks crash headfirst into concrete! They learned this technique by watching strategy films prepared by the Great Satan itself, a series involving a Zionist Coyote and a freedom-fighting islamic Roadrunner.
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:30:14pm |
#179 Pawn of the Oppressor,
"... They need to have these things explained to them."
I believe the explanation is currently being prepared.
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ironbill Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:32:07pm |
As the president and chairman of the Irish Catholics who want to be Jewish commitee of greater New York, I am issuing the following press release: Go get some guys!
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yochanan Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:32:31pm |
a target rich enviroment i would say.
GOD BLESS THE I.D.F. and all our heros fighting islmo fascism world wide.
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mean Gene Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:33:04pm |
1000's of Israelis just began to enter according to Fox News.
A power plant is out and a bridge os out.
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Kaintuck Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:33:30pm |
#182 transient
I am listening to Kol Yisrael in Hebrew. To my intense disappointment, there is no live coverage of anything.
I guess there are things we don't "need to know." At least not yet.
There is news on the hour and if anything comes up I'll mention it--but sounds like the foreign media may get it first or simultaneously.
I just had a brief look at the site. Looks like the web program may be updated at 0630 Israel time, 0330 UTC/2330 EDT.
The IDF also has a 24 hour program in Hebrew on shortwave, 1900-0400 UTC on 6973 kHz and 0400-1900 UTC on 15785 kHz. They only run 10 kW power, though, and it's aimed at Europe. If anyone has access to a decent SW receiver and an outdoor antenna they can receive it in the eastern U.S., although it's a bit early in the evening for this time of year just now. I've picked them up before but I don't speak Hebrew. I doubt they'll broadcast anything "live" but it may be closer to the after event reports than the U.S. media will have later tonight.
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Ann Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:36:18pm |
Fox is doing a good job.
So is CNN talking about banking privacy intrusion and the loss of our civil liberties at the hands of Rove right now?
I won't go look.
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Canadastani Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:37:06pm |
179 Pawn
Is that link of yours the first thing the Palestinians have ever built?
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:38:44pm |
#191 Ann:
So is CNN talking about banking privacy intrusion and the loss of our civil liberties at the hands of Rove right now?
Are you suggesting that they're deliberately obfuscating the latest on Brangelina's baby?!
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transient Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:38:57pm |
#190 Kaintuck
Live via internet...At 0500 (2200 EDT) they run a program where they read headlines local and around the world. At 0600 there is a news program where they often interview politicians, etc. I expect there will be statements made.
I don't get short wave...
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storagemanager Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:39:50pm |
The IDF received reports on Tuesday night than an Israeli body was found in Ramallah. The security forces were investigating the credibility of the reports, Army Radio reported.
Meanwhile, the security establishment has assessed on Tuesday that 18-year-old Eliyahu Asheri from Itamar was in fact kidnapped. The assessment was made based on circumstantial evidence, without concrete proof
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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attentionseeker Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:40:53pm |
#134 Mootata said:
Where is Shukri now that his muslum brethern are going to get their ass kicked again for the umptheen time?
Probably off playing with his new toy.
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fluffy Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:45:44pm |
I just read on Vital Perspective that the IDF is calling this Operation Summer Rain.
Scroll down for updates.
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transient Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:46:57pm |
#196 THScott
I hope that the Palis can swim.
Or not.
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:47:01pm |
#196 THScott,
The Pali's can't swim. Why, does it matter?
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cicero05 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:47:21pm |
#179 Pawn of the Oppressor
I can just see this IDF column grinding to a halt in front of the pali "Maginot Line", hopping off their tanks, scratching their heads and wondering what to do now...
Bwah ha ha ha ha
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Poimanester Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:49:09pm |
What do you call thousands of Pali militants on the bottom of the Mediter...Oh, never mind.
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transient Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:49:13pm |
Saeb Erekat watch:
Is he screaming "massacre" yet?
How long until he does?
Taking bets.
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ironbill Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:49:46pm |
#198 attentionseeker
Does that thing come with a headscarf or burqa?
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taryn Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:50:28pm |
hospitals are out of comission in gaza. bombs are dropping on innocent civilians. all to save a hired gun. go israel! way to be awesome!
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GeeWiz Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:50:42pm |
#191 Ann
Give my best to reganite and let him know he is missed! Thanks!
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Just_A_Grunt Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:51:28pm |
Watching Fox News, Shepard Smith and the man on the ground in Gaza ssed the LD (Line of Depature) and are moving into the southern part of Gaza. It appears to be a very restrained movement.
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attentionseeker Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:52:41pm |
#206 ironbill
Does that thing come with a headscarf or burqa?
No need, my friend, for it does not possess hair which is the source of the evil man-luring hair rays that Big Mo (BLT's be upon him) was so worried about.
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J. Lichty Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:52:51pm |
Interesting concept. Not letting officials talk to reporters. We could learn a lesson from that methinks.
That is only because the media is in lockstep with Olmert's very tired security policy. I assure you, were it a "right wing" government making this move, there would be all sorts of leaks and criticism.
Of course, the media will rest assured that this is nothing more than Olmert's Asprin Factory moment.
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Just_A_Grunt Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:53:06pm |
Fox's man on the ground is Mike Tobin and he has confirmed the IDF moving into Gaza.
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Just_A_Grunt Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:54:05pm |
Presumably CNN's reporters are embedded with the Hamas.
/
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:54:19pm |
It will all be over before the UN is able to officially demand Israel call a ceasefire.
I wouldn't listen to the UN anyways.
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J. Lichty Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:54:37pm |
It appears to be a very restrained movement.
Watch out empty asprin factories. Olmert and Stalin are on the warpath.
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ironbill Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:55:01pm |
#207 taryn
If you are such a strong supporter of the oppressed peoples of Palestine then why don't you go hang out in a Tel Aviv pizzaria or ride a bus in Israel. I already know the answer. It's because you are a dope and a coward and you support the murderous filth that blow up pizzarias and civilian busses.
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J. Lichty Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:55:48pm |
It will all be over before the UN is able to officially demand Israel call a ceasefire.I wouldn't listen to the UN anyways.
Piglet - I expect that Condi Powell will beat them to it.
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lazytart Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:57:17pm |
A "hired gun"? Please do show us some more base ignorance, you blithering twit.
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Dar ul Harb Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:57:24pm |
#158, Catt
Fox is now showing live pics of the IDF massed on the Gaza border. Live coverage all night, they say.
Wow. Thanks for the heads up.
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The Other Les Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:57:40pm |
# 185 Occasional Reader
Foolish infidel, you're only seeing half the plan. Once the concrete blocks are in place, they plan to paint a fake tunnel entrance on them, so that the Zionists tanks crash headfirst into concrete! They learned this technique by watching strategy films prepared by the Great Satan itself, a series involving a Zionist Coyote and a freedom-fighting islamic Roadrunner.
Have you seen DEATH RACE 2000?
It also worked on Matilda the Hun.
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richdavis53 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:59:10pm |
Catholic prayers for Israel and her Brave Troops.
God bless the IDF and give them the power, courage, and wit to destroy the Jihadist enemy.
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yochanan Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:59:20pm |
GOD BLESS THE IDF and all our hero's fighting islmo fascism
death to hamas
death to al quada
defeat islmo fascism and defeatist at home
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Silhouette Tue, Jun 27, 2006 2:59:55pm |
Ironic troll comment right next to the "screw them" thread.
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:01:15pm |
Fatah, Hamas and CNN versus Israel and Fox News.
Respectively Snakes, Scorpions and Ostriches versus Lions and Foxes.
no contest!
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THScott Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:01:58pm |
What are Gaza's exports? I see nothing but dirt in that map... surrounded by green Israeli farmland...
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ironbill Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:02:48pm |
Not fer nuttin' but if Israel blew up their power plant does that mean that that the Palis won't have the modern evil of electricity. Kinda did them a favor?
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19kilo Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:03:42pm |
It's on now. Ground troops have entered the strip. Did they go into Ga or Za?
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Cartman Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:04:34pm |
Looks like things are heating up in Gaza. I'm wondering what the ultimate objective is. My hope is that it entails a demonstration of force sufficient to render this ongoing threat totally impotent.
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Luigi Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:06:00pm |
This has been a startling day in the long Mideast war. This was the day the Pali propaganda machine went into a tailspin. We have caught up with their cycle. The script was pre-written for Israel to be paralyzed by the Hamas peace offensive just as it was about to take action. I was watching the BBC all day as they seemed to execute their anti-Israel script. They started leading with the menace of an Israeli invasion. Then, suddenly they turned with great vigor into the story of Hamas' intention to recognize Israel. I feel their propaganda was to work in tandem with Hamas, like a trap. It was all too pat. Just as Israel massed its forces, the BBC and other media announced in no uncertain terms that Hamas has recognized Israel's right to exist. It "recognized" Israel, said the BBC in no uncertain terms.
A few years ago, or even a few months ago, that would have caused enough of a wave of public opinion that Israel might have been stopped. It would have taken the better part of a week to get the truth out. But this time, just as I said to myself "this has got to be bullsh*t" apparently the rest of the world's media did exactly the same thing. First GoogleNews picked up some alternative news sources that noted Hamas indeed did not recognize Israel. In fact, Hamas did nothing of the sort. Within an hour or two the truth was all over the wires. The propaganda war failed.
I believe that we, the alternative media, have made our case so plainly and so publicly that the media was forced to exert enough discipline to look at the thing sceptically before jumping. When they did, there was a rash of stories about the bad spot Hamas had put itself in.
At this moment we are seeing something we haven't seen for quite some time. Because the media was caught off guard, they are covering the story factually and without apparent bias, for the moment. Just covering the story. Let's see how long that lasts. Until they can connive up a Jenin-like massacre I suspect.
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Doss Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:08:36pm |
#219 fluffy
#224 THScott
No problemo! The map may reflect some bridges and power plants that no longer exist, though. Hehehe.
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TalkinKamel Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:09:42pm |
#207 Taryn
So, Taryn---you get off on kidnappings, homicide bombings and hate for Jews?
Go, Taryn! Way to be! Pukesome---uh, I mean "awesome"! (Heh!)
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KevinV Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:10:13pm |
Israeli military officials said Prime Minister Ehud Olmert approved a "limited operation" for southern Gaza, aimed at "terrorist infrastructure."
Translation: Slap on the wrist. Business as usual to resume tomorrow.
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Ayatollah Ghilmeini Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:11:14pm |
Not to take up more of Charles' hard drive than necessary, my comments on this action are back couple of posts:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
The terrorists made a terrible error, they underestimated Israel's response. Israel's leaders not responding sooner did play into the miscalculation based on the radical's flase belief of Israel's weakness and unwillingness to face the usual international condemnation.
Lastly, Iran has been spending big bucks to cause as much terror in and around Israel.
Finally, Israel may stay a while but Gaza, when they leave it, will be a different place. Israel may sweep up all of Hamas leaders and toss them in prison. The smarter Palestinians, like Dahlan, might even order his troops to stand down and not resist and thereby become the core of a new lawful militia.
Almost a year ago< predicted this whole mess:
OK I missed Sharon's stroke.
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Just_A_Grunt Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:11:54pm |
Anybody heard of any reaction from Israels other neighbors like Syria or Lebanon?
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realwest Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:13:11pm |
Hey Youse'all, you really should click on Charles' link to Carl in Jerusalem for some fascinating coverage of what's going on.
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Just_A_Grunt Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:14:10pm |
WTF Footage on Fox just now showed a police car with lights flashing that looked like it was right up at the border where the tanks and APC had been just a short time ago?
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sunny Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:15:55pm |
Israel Army Radio reports that there have been IDF troop movements into northern Gaza and that air strikes have begun. The goal of Operation Summer Rain is to rescue Cpl. Shalit and uproot the terrorist infrastructure.
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EE Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:16:10pm |
The Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip has been a failure. It ended the occupation of the Gaza Strip. Some 8000 Jewish population living there were removed. Israeli soldiers were removed from there. What it accomplished was the empowerment of jihadi terrorists. Rockets were fired at an Israeli community that was established in 1955. A tunnel was dug into Israel to kill and to kidnap.
The result of this was supposed to be support from the international community for Israel's efforts to defend itself. The result was supposed to be support from the international community for Israel's striking hard at the Gaza Hamastan. We shall see if the international community does this. Or if this was all a foolish dream not rooted in reality.
Here is Caroline Glick's column. She doesn't see Olmert's policy as being anything more than the empowerment of terrorists, with the result being that terrorists now have more power.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Well, we shall soon see whether Olmert is willing and able to follow through on the threatened strong action against the Gaza Hamastan, or whether he is just a phony, with a failed plan that doesn't include any trace of reality, any logic, nor any consistency.
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Zack Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:16:42pm |
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Mohammad Nazal, a Damascus-based member of the Hamas politburo, said the militant group would not agree to free the Israeli soldier "without a deal.""No release without something in return," he told AP. "This is the popular demand and we cannot let down our people."
Counter offer: No release, no people to let down. Operators are standing by for your reply.
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lawhawk Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:16:55pm |
We're in stage one. Expect to hear that the bridge demolition amounts to nothing more than a collective punishment and that Israel has violated international law.
Never mind the fact that terrorists violate the law every day, by hiding among civilians - using them as human shields, cannon fodder, and otherwise subjecting them to attack (either as collateral damage or intentionally put in harms' way).
Never mind that Hamas is a terrorist group dedicated to Israel's destruction.
Never mind that Fatah is a terrorist organization that seeks Israel's destruction.
Never mind that these two groups set aside their differences to kill Israelis at every opportunity and utilize the trilateral strategy to deflect blame when terrorist groups strike at Israel.
Never mind that Israel has been subject to attack by Fatah, Hamas and PIJ groups incessantly for months on end with missile and rocket attacks. Each attack, particularly by Hamas is an act of war as Hamas is the government in charge of the territories.
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kynna Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:17:27pm |
Christian prayers for the IDF and all Israel and her supporters. I don't think this will be the war the Palis deserve, but I pray that it will make some sort of positive difference.
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Just_A_Grunt Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:21:30pm |
There are a lot of dynamics at work here and not just with the actual, for lack of a better word, raid being conducted by the IDF right now.
Eyes and ears need to be tuned to the Palestinian factions to see if one or the other attempt a coup of sorts. Also see what other internal strife or conflict starts in the the different factions of the PLO. This may be the catalyst for all out civil war among the Palis.
Then we can watch the fun as the media tries to determine which faction is the insurgents and which is the militants.
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sunny Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:22:23pm |
251 kynna
Amen, I pray for my Israeli brothers. Strong, couragious, and true. God be with you!
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TotallySirius Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:22:50pm |
The tanks are rolling
The game is on.
Go go IDF!
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Cartman Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:22:51pm |
OT (sorry) – I know this may not seem very important, in light of recent developments, but here are the RINO senators who voted against a flag desecration amendment. I also totally respect that many of you are 'closet' dems, indies or libertarians. Here are your “conservative patriots” who took down the vote. Keep in mind…it failed by one vote.
Bennett (R-UT), Nay
Chafee (R-RI), Nay
Jeffords (I-VT), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Nay
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TotallySirius Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:24:39pm |
Shukri must have had to run...for the Egyptian border most likely.
Bwa hahahaha
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TotallySirius Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:27:02pm |
FoxNews says the IDF has clamped a live news feed blackout on the press.
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Just_A_Grunt Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:34:20pm |
Well it is now wait and see time. My prayers go out the IDF forces on this mission and may they find the soldier and civillian who was kidnapped safe and bring them back to their families.
This doesn't look like the knockout blow of the PLO but it may set in motion a whole new set circumstances for this region. I hope the raid accomplishes more then finding and destroying weapons caches and rocket launching sites.
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Just_A_Grunt Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:37:00pm |
Palis now threathening to kill the kidnapped civillian if Israel doesn't stop. Civillian was kidnapped in the West Bank area.
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wccawa Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:38:06pm |
#257
Smartest thing they could have done. We could learn a lesson there.
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Render Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:39:50pm |
As per #257:
A news blackout is for the best. Nevermind, (much), that the "news" cannot be trusted to tell the truth, or even the right story.
Terrorists watch the "news" as well.
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Mobilizing that much armor is a highly expensive proposition. It isn't undertaken lightly, nor is done without a prior goal in mind.
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Unless things have recently changed in the TOE of the IDF, the IDF does not operate in traditional divisional size units.
The IDF's largest operational combat units are brigades and battlegroups. See Wermacht operations circa 1944-45.
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SUMMER
RAIN,
R
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Dar ul Harb Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:42:40pm |
#257,
Well, we can see the results later. I wouldn't want CNN standing at the Hamas barricades shining their klieglights into the IDF's eyes as they roll over them.
(Cf. Somalia landing)
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Killian Bundy Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:44:34pm |
#207 taryn
hospitals are out of comission in gaza. !
"Real" hospitals have generators.
bombs are dropping on innocent civilians. all to save a hired gun. go israel! way to be awesome
Are bridges innocent civilians? Because that's the only thing that's been bombed so far.
all to save a hired gun
A "hired gun" that the [bigoted word]s dug a 1/4 mile tunnel into Israel just to kidnap. Nevermind the daily rocket attacks, all the Islamosavages had to do was release the soldier and there wouldn't be Israeli tanks back in Gaza right now. Or, better yet, maybe they shouldn't have kidnapped him in the first place. The terrorist assholes brought this on themselves.
go israel! way to be awesome
Well, at least we agree on something.
/time to make the doughnuts, get some IDF!
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aaron's rantblog Tue, Jun 27, 2006 3:45:06pm |
#225 East Muqata?
Does Abbas have Yassin and Arafat's problem of requiring an endless stream of Moslem boys to bugger?
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BulgarWheat Tue, Jun 27, 2006 4:02:40pm |
Go get some IDF! Watching it on Fox. I have a house full of relatives visiting. I asked if it would be alright if I switched over to watching the Israeli's crush the paleos. Everyone said, "No, go ahead. We want to see that too!"
Crush these scum!
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GeeWiz Tue, Jun 27, 2006 4:04:39pm |
My wish for this muggy Tuesday night on the East Coast:
IDF, kick ass, take names and Godspeed for you are doing what has needed to be done some years ago! Come home safe!
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ovidius Tue, Jun 27, 2006 4:06:40pm |
#17 rw in san diego
# 50 hornet
Your prayers are the perfect evidence that the Quran is Mohammed's plagiarism of the Jewish sacred texts.
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19kilo Tue, Jun 27, 2006 4:07:18pm |
ask each pal they see in the streets if they are a terrorist. If they say yes shoot them. if they say no arrest them for lying about it.
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Ayatollah Ghilmeini Tue, Jun 27, 2006 4:12:32pm |
Couple of strategic considerations:
Hezbollah The A-team of terror will not sit by and let the IDF lay waste to all their work in Gaza be destroyed, the problem they have is if they start to stir things up north, Israel will hit them as well- with everything.
Those worried about Egypt need not be. The 2500 troops Egypt sent to seal the border are there because Hamas' logistic and operational support for al Qaeda operations in Egypt threatens Egyptian state security.
Israel asked Egypt to seal the border, and for once, Egypt was actaully happy to help.
The only question now is whether Israel can be bought off by the release of Gilad and just march out lesson taught or if Olmert has just decided to have done with Hamas and its leadership once and for all.
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looking closely Tue, Jun 27, 2006 4:20:29pm |
#255 Cartman.
I'm not a "closet" anything, but I have no problem is some jackoff wants to burn a flag.
Let him.
The flag can take it, our country can take it, and I can think of a million things more offensive than that which are protected by free speech.
I have no use for first amendment "carveouts".
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19kilo Tue, Jun 27, 2006 4:26:25pm |
I really do believe that theses islamonuts are shitting themselves. at the same time they are more than likely sending thier women and children out in the streets.
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mean Gene Tue, Jun 27, 2006 5:23:25pm |
Anyone know what time dawn breaks over there?
It's almost 7:30PM here in CA.
I'm pleased to see that none of the Pali's supposed paramours are helping her out in the slightest.
I guess they really are the low man on the Arab totum pole!
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storagemanager Tue, Jun 27, 2006 5:30:43pm |
#269 Ayatollah Ghilmeini or if Olmert has just decided to have done with Hamas and its leadership once and for all.
I hope this is the answer...Its time to flex not back off.
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Kirly Tue, Jun 27, 2006 5:36:18pm |
Someone on this thread mentioned that the rest of the world was being uncharacteristically quiet about this. I think that's just because they're asleep in Eurabia and most of the mideast. Just wait until morning and the screeching will begin.
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mean Gene Tue, Jun 27, 2006 5:54:19pm |
Kirly said:
Someone on this thread mentioned that the rest of the world was being uncharacteristically quiet about this. I think that's just because they're asleep in Eurabia and most of the mideast. Just wait until morning and the screeching will begin.
I think what 235 Luigi said is true.
The Pali's have been "Swift Boated" or, perhaps, "CBS Memogated."
The world hasn't come up with an alternate to the rhetorical plan they thought was going to work for them tonight.
It will be interesting to see the screech and spin tommorrow.
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looking closely Tue, Jun 27, 2006 6:00:57pm |
#274
There is always the chance (however small and unlikely) that the rest of the world thinks crossing a border, murdering a few guards and taking one hostage is an act of war, and will grant Israel the right to respond.
/dreamin'
Seriously, nobody's complained because the skull-cracking hasn't started yet. You have to wait until a few rounds are spent before the Jew-hating press starts screaming about disproportionality and murdered civilians.
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GregInSeattle Tue, Jun 27, 2006 6:29:37pm |
The press usually won't tell you stuff like this. From ynetnews
At around 1:30 a.m. five missiles were fired at a power station in south Gaza; blackouts were reported some Gaza areas, but partial power in Gaza City was restored by tapping into electricity supplied by Israel in northern Gaza.
This seems to me similar to the US supplying electricity to Warziristan (where they think Bin Laden is hidding).
Israel is a Saint!
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SpartanWoman Tue, Jun 27, 2006 7:23:03pm |
#207 taryn 6/27/2006 04:50PM PDT
hospitals are out of comission in gaza. bombs are dropping on innocent civilians. all to save a hired gun. go israel! way to be awesome!
Maybe if the islamic "heroes" would stop hiding behind women's skirts and children's lollipops. "innocent civilians" would be safe.
I don't find many of their civilians to be so civilized though..if they elected the Hamas "death to the Jews" "Government"...they are far from innocent.
GO ISRAEL...may President Bush do the honorable thing and take out Teheran...FASTER PLEAsE!
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NY Nana Tue, Jun 27, 2006 7:58:39pm |
Here is the prayer for the IDF
Invoking God's protection for the members of the Israel Defense Forces.
He Who blessed our forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob -- may He bless the fighters of the Israel Defense Forces, who stand guard over our land and the cities of our God, from the border of the Lebanon to the desert of Egypt, and from the Great Sea unto the approach of the Aravah, on the land, in the air, and on the sea.May the Almighty cause the enemies who rise up against us to be struck down before them. May the Holy One, Blessed is He, preserve and rescue our fighters from every trouble and distress and from every plague and illness, and may He send blessing and success in their every endeavor.
May He lead our enemies under our soldiers' sway and may He grant them salvation and crown them with victory. And may there be fulfilled for them the verse: For it is the Lord your God, Who goes with you to battle your enemies for you to save you.
Now let us respond: Amen.
The Hebrew version is also there.
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Londoner Wed, Jun 28, 2006 3:14:49am |
Shock News
A crack division of French Accordian Playing Commandos has just been air lifted into Gaza to join the attack.
"We can't succeed without French backup" said an Israeli General, "our troops just don't have the training".
The little known 1st French Harmonica Division played a vital part in the seizure of Suez.
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Mike_W Wed, Jun 28, 2006 6:13:57am |
Go Israel!
By the sound of the Egyptian troops lining the border to keep "Palestinians" out, even their fellow muslims see "Palestinians" as unwelcome scum.
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Greg Wed, Jun 28, 2006 6:35:29am |
Thank the Lord the Israeli Defense Forces are finally kicking Ham-ass murdering clowns...
Kill them all...
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swallace Wed, Jun 28, 2006 9:09:27am |
CNET practices moral equivalency, equating kidnapping to website defacement:
[Link: news.com.com...]
Hundreds of Israeli Web sites were defaced Wednesday, allegedly by Moroccan hacker group Team Evil, according to the Haaretz.com post. The cyber graffiti was prompted by recent efforts of the Israel Defense Forces to allegedly even the score after one of its soldiers was kidnapped on Sunday.
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