Why are we not surprised? They're all in this together, anti-semites united.

Zombie noted it first.

Old News...There is but one enemy.

Doesn't look too difficult to manufacture, could be local with foreign design.

He who has eyes, let him see. He who has ears, let him hear. Don't forget to use the cluebat first, tho...

Suitcases full of cash can buy a lot of those from the Mad Mullahs.

Still gotta love the little "balls out" victory dance the guy at top right is doing!

May he soon be looking for his missing balls in hell.

#1

anti-semites united

Isn't that an Iranian football (soccer) team?

But wait, the Iranians are Shiite and the Palis are Sunni. The Iranians are extremely religious and Fatah are "moderate"!
When it comes to killing Jews and Crusaders, they are all brothers singing cum-bay-yah (bang!).

So -- kids are allowed to be near where these people are attempting to activiate an explosive device.
Then . . .
Kablam!
Blame it on the Jews.

What proof do they have that they are Iranian?

I think the US has "turned the other cheek" to Iran about 100 times now. No more! Get tough on them!

#11 Kevin Shook

What proof do they have that they are Iranian?

They RESEMBLE

Iran being a source of terrorism in the world? I'm shocked, SHOCKED that this is the case.

OK, so I'm not.

For the benefit of those who aren't metric-friendly:

Concave steel or copper plate produces molten jet travelling at 2000 meteres per second 6500 ft/sec, or 4430 mph. Capable of penetrating up to 10 cm 4 inches of armor at 100m 300 ft.

The guys in the top photo are just bringing the keg to an Hamas BBQ.

OT... The bodies of two missing girls in Beligium have been found.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

The disappearances of the stepsisters — 7-year-old Stacy Lemmens and 10-year-old Nathalie Mahy — has shocked Belgium, and police have charged a convicted child rapist in their June 10 abduction.

The suspect in their disappearance, 39-year-old Abdallah Aid Oud, was the boyfriend of a waitress in the cafe, and police say he was seen in the area shortly before the girls vanished. He was released in December after serving a second sentence for raping a minor.

Second sentence? *spit*

#8 kerr avon

anti-semites united

Isn't that an Iranian football (soccer) team?

... Hmm, I think it could be any number of football teams. I can hear the cheers in the stadiums even now.

But where could the Palis have gotten such weapons and how could they pay for them in the midst of a humanitarian crisis?

Oh, yeah.

#2 abolitionist

Actually Ocassional Reader mentioned it first.

Zombie did add to it though, with even more links.

Not surprising...

#4 MysticSmoke - A marine e-mailed me this:

.there called EFP Explosively Formed Projectiles.. the take a ductile metal like copper and make a shape charge out of it, like a cone, then pack it with explosives…when it ignites it shoots out a blast of molten metal traveling nearly the speed of sound, no armor can protect against it…but it takes great craftsmanship to create so its not that common

#22 David Simon

it shoots out a blast of molten metal traveling nearly the speed of sound,

According to those numbers, it shoots (sprays?) at mach 6.

But Real Islamists HATE soccer!
;)

I have not heard even one report of a death from the Pali's yet their spokeman, Deputy Palestinian PM Nasser al-Sha'er, is going around calling this incursion a "genocide!" LOL!
[Link: www.ramattan.com...]

When Pali's die will it be from IDF or from these explosives planted all over the Gaza Strip?

Gaza militants ready to fight back

Includes obligatory pic of terrorists with ablative child armor.

“We haven’t slept in three days,” says Abu Hamza, a spokesman for Islamic Jihad. “Every street that we think the enemy is likely to use, we go there and set up ambushes and wait for him.”

Despite the militants’ preparations and larger arsenal, Israel’s military supremacy remains overwhelming, as dozens of tanks, armoured vehicles and artillery batteries have been deployed on Gaza’s doorstep.

At the entrance to the Jabaliya refugee camp, laborers worked yesterday to seal off the camp’s front gate with earthen mounds and sandbags.

Palestinian faction leaders say there is total co-ordination among the various armed groups. The defence against the Israeli invasion will be co-ordinated from a joint operations room, they say.

“This is not going to be like last time,” says Abu Jendel, military commander for the Al-Aqsa Brigades in southern Gaza. “We will surprise the Israelis.”

In an Islamic Jihad compound in Khan Younis, Abu Hamza’s radio crackles to life. Four Apache combat helicopters have set down in Israel just across the border in Rafah, an observer in the field says.

“These bulletins and this network is for all the factions,” says Hamza.

Abu Jendel says the Israelis will encounter unprecedented levels of resistance, the result of ever worsening economic conditions and the regular reports of Palestinian civilians dying in errant Israeli air strikes or shelling.

“They are going to confront an entire and united people,” he says. “We, the Palestinians, have more desire to fight now than ever before.”

On the streets of Gaza, some Palestinians vow to stand up and fight, while others say they will lie low and wait out the Israeli siege praying for safety.

“All the Palestinians are ready to fight this invasion,” says Abu Yad, 35, a travel agent whose defiant rhetoric belies his otherwise soft-spoken demeanour.

Down the street, Mohamed Subhi, 26, an off-duty police officer, is not quite so bellicose.

“The resistance is for certain people,” he says. “We all support them of course, but we’re not all going to stand and die alongside them.”

Palestinians Using Iranian Weapons?

Evil is as evil does.

Ya know, if it wasn't for getting up every morning with the goal of killing jews their every waking thought, they'd have nothing else to do.

So, but the extreme left's logic*, Palestine has started a nuclear war. Does that mean, following the MAD doctrine, it's time to reciprocate? In Iran?

* Iraq was considered to be a nuclear battleground in GW1 because the US used depleted uranium shells to tank bust.

It may be Iranian-made but I think it looks more like a Russian-made MON-200. Does anyone know if Iran recieved some sort of contract to build them?

#25

“Every street that we think the enemy is likely to use, we go there and set up ambushes and wait for him.”

Which reminds me, WHY do Israelis bulldoze houses? Oh yeah, becauase every street that they might use is wired for an ambush.

Innocent Palestinian civilians my ASSyrian

#28 Vagrant

Most likely they merely copied the design off munitions they bought off the Russians in the past.

Charles you are one of the best friends Israel has!.. God Bless

from article linked to in #24

Deputy of the Palestinian Prime Minster, Nasser al-Sha’er, urged Wednesday the whole World to interfere and stop a possible genocide in the Gaza strip.

Genocide? Maybe, just maybe, if you stop kidnapping people, firing rockets at stores, blowing up buses, hiding your cowardly asses on crowded beaches, in hospitals, and schools...Maybe then you can talk about your supposed genocide. For now, STFU, and STFD. You brought the wrath of the IDF upon yourself, and I, for one, am glad.

A direct connection to Iran.

Hey Mad Mullahs

That sound you will soon be hearing will be Israeli fighter-bombers.

Ask Saddam about Israeli fighter-bombers.

Technically speaking, EFPs are a different thing from shaped charges: a study on EFPs.

I've seen, in a research journal, high-speed pictures of the molten metal jet produced by shaped charges; this group was studying the use of titanium alloy armor plates.

From the telegraph article:

The Ministry of Defence has attempted to play down the effectiveness of the weapons, suggesting that they are "crude" or "improvised" explosive devices which have killed British troops more out of luck than judgement.

However, this newspaper understands that Government scientists have established that the mines are precision-made weapons which have been turned on a lathe by craftsmen trained in the manufacture of munitions.

So it's turned in a lathe. BFD. What is it about these journalists who insist on making a much bigger deal out of the capabilities of these islamosavages that is warranted? The theory behind it is sophisticated, but I'm sure they didn't develop the technology, they just copied it from China or wherever. Manufacturing them is no big deal. It's an oversized pipe full of explosives with a freeze plug.

…when it ignites it shoots out a blast of molten metal traveling nearly the speed of sound, no armor can protect against it…

Sound way to risky to go in there.
Better resort to good old fashioned carpet bombing. Saves lots of lives.

#36 Kim Hartveld

Best to mark the target before sending in any heavy artillery or air support.

Hmmm, WP can be used to mark targets.

Layered ceramic armor gives a modicum of protection against most high velocity molten metal charges because of its resistance to melting and impact absorbing properties.

You want to know where all that humanitarian aid went?

Just look at these pictures and see what that humanitarian aid has bought.

Funding from the UNDP?

PRESS RELEASE
UNDP Delegation holds Fruitful meetings

In Jeddah with Senior OIC Officials To explore various possibilities Of joint collaboration between The Two Organizations

As a follow-up to the understanding reached between the OIC Secretary General, Professor Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, and the UNDP Administrator, Mr. Kemal Dervis, a two-member UNDP delegation held fruitful meetings with senior officials of the OIC General Secretariat in Jeddah today.

During these meetings, numerous possibilities of joint collaboration between the two organizations were focused upon. Both sides also held detailed discussions regarding the effective and expeditious implementation of the various provisions of OIC's ambitious 10-year Programme of Action, that was unanimously adopted during the Third Extraordinary Session of the Islamic Summit Conference in Makkah Al-Mukarramah in December last year. It would be worthwhile to mention that the UNDP Administrator has designated a central focal point in his headquarters in New York to follow-up UNDP's collaboration with the OIC.
Jeddah, 26 June 2006

4. ISLAMIC BUREAU FOR MILITARY COORDINATION WITH PALESTINE

Its task consists in coordinating aid of military nature granted to Palestine by Member States of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC)

2.DEPARTMENT OF AL-QUDS AL-SHARIF AND PALESTINE

* To draw up plans, undertake political, economic, social, military and information studies and programs designed:
* To support the struggle of the Palestinian people for their legitimate rights;
* To protect the holy places against desecration by the Zionist enemy:
* To prevent and check Jewish immigration to Palestine and to counter all forms of Zionist action.
* To lead information campaigns in conjunction with information organs of Islamic countries;
* To help the OIC play an effective role during meetings dealing with the cause of Al-Quds Al-Sharif and Palestine.
* To follow up the implementation of decisions relating thereto.

Nah, couldn't happen.

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Another primer on shaped charges.

It seems that the common wisdom of a molten/plasma metal jet is not entirely correct.

US Senate calls AP out on BIAS and Methodology
[Link: www.epw.senate.gov...]

article titled “Scientists OK Gore’s Movie for Accuracy” by Seth Borenstein raises some serious questions about AP’s bias and methodology.

The AP stone cold liars ? nah!

Someone clue this clueless person in ( me )...is tonight the night? What's the hold up? These pics of these devils using children is enough to make me want to go in and kill them now. Without hesitation.

What's the IDF waiting on? ( Not being critical, just asking if anyone can clue me in on what might be going on, time wise...thanks)

Funny, I recall the Europeons and the Americans getting sooo impatient with Israel when the final touches of the withdraw from Gaza was being "negotiated".

Seems as though the Israelis were concerned about weapons smuggling.

Where are those dumbf*cks saying now?

(puke)

Where What

(I like this strikeout feature)

The only "fact" that we have is that they "...resemble the type of shaped anti-tank charges manufactured by the Islamic Republic of Iran." [emphasis added, realwest].
Lord knows I carry no water for Iran, but we already have sufficient cause to attack Iran, so even if these were made by Iran it doesn't really change the equation vis a vis the US and Iran. I strongly suspect Iran taught Hamas or Fatah or others how to make them, rather than supply them directly, but again, it makes no difference - we already have and have had for a looong time sufficent reason to declare war on Iran or, if W wanted to go back to 1979, simply acknowledge that a state of war exists.
I only wish we'd do one or the other post-haste.

Level the place...then salt it.

Does anyone remember the Karine A..

Where there is a will, there is a way...

OT:

The House is taking up a resolution condemning the NYT for publishing the SWIFT story... count on the howls from the left in 3...2...1...

realwest

we already have and have had for a looong time sufficent reason to declare war on Iran or, if W wanted to go back to 1979, simply acknowledge that a state of war exists.
I only wish we'd do one or the other post-haste.

I'm all for taking out the regime in Iran, but with the situation in Iraq, this might not be possible right now.

With the troops in Iraq not heading out in the very near future, how would we set a battle plan?

I guess it would be possible that we could have a long campaign of airstrikes, but do we even have the manpower (ground forces) to fight a war on two fronts?

Dont know if I would want to find out...

Owl #43,

If I had to guess, it's that the Israelis are trying hard to believe that the 'Palestinians' will give in to pressure. They are trying to ratchet up the pressure slowly to indicate their seriousness while allowing themselves and the 'Palestinians' the ability to back down.

The reality, that Olmert/Peretz do not accept, is that the 'Palestinians' do not want to back down and are looking forward to the conflict. They want to make this into Jenin II and they know that the 'international community' will help them. The Israelis are too afraid of the 'international community' so they are trying to demonstrate that the 'Palestinians' have the ability to back down if they so choose. In this case, since the Israelis have not accepted reality, they are going to lose some of their own as a consequence as the 'Palestinians' continue preparations.

Captions for the above photos:

"Members of the All-Palestine IED Laying Team enthusiastically show off their skills prior to the 2007 Islamic Games to be held in Mogadishu, Somalia. Team Captain Mohammed Ali bin Splodidopi remarked,'God Willing, we will take the gold medal or die trying!"

Reactive armour, which the Israeli's developed first, if I remember correct, can defeat a shaped charge. The principle is to have small explosive plates mounted around a vehicle. When the shape charge detontates against the explosive plate, the exlposive plate explodes outwords, negating the stream of the charge.

A picture can been seen here

I doubt these charges will really hamper the Israelis.

Somewhat OT

I posted this last night but here it is again for those who missed it. You'll have to poke around a bit at the site. The radio broadcasts are delayed quite a bit, as is the English TV. There is a scheduled radio news update in English that should be the most current at 1:30 PM EDT this afternoon.

There's also a link to the IDF home page near the top left, and they have some video footage. Anyone who speaks Hebrew will have a decided advantage for the site as a whole and the news in Hebrew may be closer to being current.

[Link: www.iba.org.il...]

OT

Staff Sgt. Raymond J. Plouhar died in Iraq today. He appeared in Michael (the fat liar) Moore's Snotumentary Fahrenheit 911. Moore creatively edited Raymond Pouhar's interview to make it appear he was anti-war.

I think I heard somewhere that Pouhar had initiated a lawsuit against Moore. Rest in Peace brave Marine Raymond Pouhar.

Live in torment you fat Cheeseburger eating monkey Moore.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/ archive/2006/06/28/state/n070302D71.DTL

It's long past time to take Iran to the "nuclear woodshed"!

Diplomocy has failed, just like it did with Saddam, and the only option, to get the message across loud and clear, is strategicly placed nukes in Iran!

They will continue to defy the world, until they are fully capable of nukes, and they have no plans of stopping.

The kook Iranian, Amhadinnerjacket has made his plans clear, for some time now, and if the world doesn't stop him cold, there then will be one hell of a world nuclear war, which could have been eliminated by simply nuking high priority targets in Iran.

The kook Iranian, Amhadinnerjacket, has the world dancing around like puppets on a string, I wish that someone would get fed up with it!

"Sometimes, you have to do the unthinkable, to keep the unthinkable from happening"

#41 FabioC.

So essentially, this is the same concept as water-jet cutting.

Wiki on shaped charge

Here's hoping they suffer from some work accidents.

/boom!

#55 jehu

That is awful. G-d bless him.

this may be iran's version of stukas in the spanish civil war, a chance to test weapons and methods they will need to use against US troops when they invade iran.

Good job LGF connecting the shaped charge. Iran and Syria at it again.

KIBBUTZ NAHAL OZ – The Syrian government has deployed security forces to protect overall Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal and has advised him to restrict all public activities for the time being, Hamas officials in the Gaza Strip told WorldNetDaily today.
...
Israeli security officials earlier this week told WorldNetDaily they have information the terrorists who carried out the Hamas raid and Shalit kidnapping were trained by Iranian Revolutionary Guard units and Hezbollah guerillas. The information comes in part from a Hamas terrorist allegedly involved in the plot who was arrested by Israeli forces in Gaza the day before the kidnapping.

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

#2 actually, think it was me [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

but regardless, the point is you don't want to be anywhere near one of those things when it goes off. A door, window or hole in a wall can conceal them and they can be fired from above and below.

The point is these things cause casualties. About half of all US casualties in Iraq are from these things. It is just one more act of war against the US and Israel by Iran and its extended family of criminal scum: Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas and al Qaeda.

No matter how well trained the soldiers, a missed detail, in the heat of battle, from fatigue or just a moment's pause can be fatal or result in mutilating injuries.

that darn thing looks russian, but russia is well known for "licensing" their technology out for money or to stick it to the friends (us).

The MON-200 is, simply, an enlarged version of the MON-100 directional mine.

Specifications
Mine Type: Anti-personnel
Country of Origin: Russia
Mine Action:
Material: Sheet Metal
Shape: Circular
Colour: Green, Olive
Total Weight (grams): 25000.0
Explosive Content: 12 kg TNT
Operating Pressure (Kg):
Length (mm): n/a
Width (mm): 130.0
Height (mm): n/a
Diameter (mm): 434.0

Sorry if someone has already called attention to this, but Michael Oren has some compelling arguments against the Gaza operation and advocates a return to the policy of targeted assasinations. [Link: opinionjournal.com...]

#63 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

The point is these things cause casualties. About half of all US casualties in Iraq are from these things. It is just one more act of war against the US and Israel by Iran and its extended family of criminal scum: Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas and al Qaeda.

Hope you don't mind my echoing part of your post. Thot it deserved more emphasis.

Anyhow, I'm very glad somebody noticed, and that our host picked up on it.

OT: Israeli warplanes buzz Syria.

sraeli warplanes flew over the home of Syrian President Bashar Assad, officials said Wednesday, in a message aimed at pressuring him to win the release of a captured Israeli soldier.

The officials said four warplanes flew over a residence belonging to Assad in the Mediterranean port city of Latakia in northwestern Syria. Israeli television reports said Assad was home at the time.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the press.

Ariel, thanks...just what I was needing.

When Al Jazerra started, I wanted them bombed. But cooler heads allowed them to exist. Then, among the lies, they showed the Iraqi election and started including some snippits of truth.

First we condemned the AP for complicity with terrorists. Now we see they're feeding us Hamas military secrets.

More upside-down reality in the age of inverse morality, lies, a sense of insecurity, and the lizardoid response.

This from me.

#69 Plato
I was just about to whine about arresting that "photo-journalist" but actually... what you said is more interesting.

First we condemned the AP for complicity with terrorists. Now we see they're feeding us Hamas military secrets.

#63 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Good job AG :D

#53 Gilgamesh

I doubt these charges will really hamper the Israelis.

If they're that cheap and easy, they become a serious problem. Reactive armor isn't about taking repeated hits.

Twelve-inch shaped charge in a bucket? Horrors.

Those aren't "human shields". Those are children watching a popular resistance.

These are human shields.

Iran has been at war with the US since 1979; we've just tried to ignore the obvious. Perhaps our response during the first 10 years can be explained by cold war restraints, but since the fall of the wall, we've just been taking it.

Sooner or later, they will obtain the WMD necessary to kill a LARGE number of people, and they will.

The "civilized" world, or what's left of it, will be shocked.

The country is a worthless POS. We should take it out with authentic shock and awe that serves as a catalyst for cultural change in the barbaric world of islam.

Palestinians using Iranian weapons? Iraqis using Iranian weapons? Well duh! Birds of a feather do flock together.

So why are Israel and the U.S. going after the small fry instead of the big mullahs? This would be like fighting the Italians during WW2 while insisting that dipolmacy was the only way to deal with the Germans.

What I don't get are the masks.

#76, the masks are worn in an attempt to keep the IDF from identifying the terrorists.