"“The mayor and the governor should not drag us into this foreign conflict,” he said."

So Arnold is threatening to invade Syria?

MPAC you are terminated

Something tells me he wouldn't be so upset about their "entrance into this conflict" had they been holding Hiz'b'allah flags at a Pro-Islamist rally.

i love the idea of supporting the other side. Which would be who Hezbollah, ok so MPAC admits they support an illegal terrorist organisation, that clears it up.

This Californian says Thank you, Arnold!

Actually, I think MPAC may have one of those liquid metal guys. Look out, Arnold!

Yes, MPAC, he did take sides, and clearly he didn't take yours ...

my primary advice, BIOYA ...

my secondary advice, go back to damascus, beruit, or points nearby, take up arms beside the party of baal, and frankly get what's coming to you for doing such an act ...

Name one convert to Islam or Muslim who has become more devout who has become a better American citizen.

I won't hold my breath.

Some positive signs from Germany's Der Spiegel:

Why Israel's Reaction is Right

Israel is fighting a just war. Germany and the European Union should unequivocally back Israel.

Islamism has attacked Israel from both the south and the north and Israel has no choice but to react. But there is more to it than that. Israel's military operation is important for the entire Western world. Until 2005, Islamism was able to successfully mislead the West into thinking that the "occupation" of Gaza and southern Lebanon was the cause of the terror attacks carried out against Israel. Now we know better: Islamism isn't out to change Israeli policy in the region, Islamism is out to completely eradicate the country of Israel. The same strategy is being used on a larger scale: The Middle East conflict is not the cause of Tehran's conflict with Western secularism. It is merely a convenient alibi.

Crap. I just want our enemies wiped out.

Kill. More. Faster.

/Off.

Conan the Inteligent!

OT

A somewhat airborne pig is on MSNBC right now as Tucker Carlson is being sarcastic about the very Fwench Jeanne Querrie's statement that this war would not be happening if he were POTUS.

# 5 S M

My political support of Ahnold has been pretty tepid; to see him take a stand on this issue sends his stock skyrocketing with me ...

without consulting residents of California and Los Angeles

Did LA finally receive statehood or something?

We take issue with the governor and the mayor taking sides on this issue, the pro-Israeli side, without consulting residents of California and Los Angeles,” said Salam al-Marayati of the council.

Is Los Angeles the 51st. state?

{Ibmkeyboard}! Get outta my head!

/oh no- imma skeeered now.

Did LA finally receive statehood or something?

I wish they did. San Fran. also.

M&M

darling,

call me before you print anything.

Thank ye ver much.

lol

Taking sides in the issue? Are you kidding me? Anyone with a pulse should recognize good versus evil - and how terrorists are evil by hiding among civilians and firing rockets with the express intent of causing mass casualties among civilians. Arnold is backing Israel because it is on the right side of this conflict - and to back anything else is to support the terrorists who started this latest round of fighting (and yes, I know that Syria and Iran are ultimately to blame).

OT:
Did you know that 300,000 Israelis have been displaced by the fighting? The economy in Northern Israel is at a standstill.

These facts are afterthoughts in the media coverage, which much rather cover the situation in Lebanon, where Hizbullah continues to fight from behind civilian populations instead of fighting directly with Israeli forces - all in order to maximize civilian casualties.

Updates here.

How hypocritical. If a California governor were to participate in an anti-Israel protest the MPAC would be celebrating.

They also seethed over the participation of DiFi in the San Francisco rally. Mayor Gavin Newsom attended but did not speak, while Sen. Boxer and Rep. Pelosi sent letters of support.

All this iSlam *spit* stuff is making me crazy. I find myself buying ammo every week now and lots of it. Everyone of you lizards had better take up shooting as a hobby...just saying

Muslims angry

Water is wet.
The Pope is Catholic.
Bears shit in the woods.

Always good to see Muslims whine. Thank you Gov!

What column number are they anyway?

Salam al-Marayati, CAIR: The mayor and the governor should not drag us into this foreign conflict.

The Terminator: Chill out, dickwad.

GET TO DA CHOPPAH!

sorry, had to do an Arnie impression, what with all the evac by helicopter from Lebanon...

Something must be done about Galloway.

/just sayin'

Reza was offended.

/And his weirod, too...

There's definately something wacky on the LGF server. My post got eaten.

...without consulting residents of California and Los Angeles

They must believe Arnold is Bill Clinton, willing to take a poll on everything from vacation spots to welfare reform.

Some people actual have values and are willing to vocally state them; they just do not always coincide with your own.

#20 ploome

will someone s'plain to me how does this happen, If Israel has destroed all the airports and roads in Lebanon

Like how did Condi land there today?

Even weirder. There was a different #29 before my eaten post got put in it's place [cue twilight zone music].

#32,

She has the backing of the US military. They can get people pretty much anywhere they want when they want.

Got a call.

My mate's a Tel Ha Shomer with shrapnel wounds.

Spoke to his mom.

I'll talk to you all later.

Please say a prayer for all our friends, family, sons and daughter here in Israel.

#30 Earth2moonbat

My post got eaten.

So did mine!

I quoted the bit about consulting residents, and mentioned that the islamists use Democracy when it's convenient for them, yet vow to destroy it.

Let's see if this works...

public opinion is so hard to sway...and then one day...out of the blue comes a sea change in sensibility...i feel that new awareness happening...both domestically and internationally...say what you will but these muslims are very UNpersonable unsympathetic characters...without exception.

i always ask the closet antisemites i know to enumerate the good things the muslim world has brought forth over the last millenium...silence reigns of course...then i begin to list, historically up till the present day, the accomplishments/contributions of jews in general and israelis in particular...

i knock 'em dead.

# 36 GJ

God bless your friend and heal him to a full recovery ...

#33 Earth2moonbat

E-mail me and I'll send you a picture of Arnold at the rally.

#32 jrdroll -

Dr. Rice flew to Cyprus and choppered to Beirut.

All of the speeches were great.
I believe it was County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky who opened his speech explicitly saying that he does pick a side, that of Israel, even though he had been advised (as a politician) not to.

Geez, Ann, aren't YOU special?

/Wonder if this will get through since my posts have been apparently eaten by the giant pit bull of the blogosphere all day (is that what Janet is doing now?) and disappearing forever.

So, let's see here...

The governor says that every state has a right to defend itself, and Israel, being a state, therefore, also has that right.

MPAC thinks that's "taking sides".

Um, does he realize that the USA officially recognizes Israel as a State? And therefore, has a right to defend itself?

The country in which he lives has already taken a "side" on Israel's existence. If they don't like that, then they should leave -- move -- get out. Go live in a country that shares your values, beliefs, world-view (and live amongst other miserable creeps of like-mind).

#37 Ann

Yours may have been the first #29 that got bumped. I've seen this happen before, but very rarely. Maybe the server needs a reboot, or something.

OPEN LETTER TO ALL NON-JEWISH SUPPORTERS OF ISRAEL:

This is sort of OT but Arnold's speech yesterday (the subject of this) reminded me of another speech yesterday by a pastor from "The Church on the Way". To me it was probably the most touching, inspirational & heartwarming speech I heard yesterday! (I also got to speak to the pastor personally afterwards & we was a great guy) So bare with me.

As a Jew, a Zionist, & human being with relatives in Israel...I want to personally and wholeheartedly THANK every single supporter of Israel, but specifically those who are not Jewish. I don't want any of you to think that your help & support goes unnoticed or unappreciated. WE DEEPLY APPRECIATE IT!

Our history has been dark, & upsetting but our furture together will be a blessing to both of us. I look forward to our new unified furture together and success in are shared struggle against the evil in this world. Only together can we hope to finally create a world of Peace on this earth.

May G-d bless us all.

"taking sides on this issue, the pro-Israeli side"
THAT'S FUNNY.
I suppose we can safely say that, had he "taken the other side," they wouldn't be accusing him of taking sides?

I'm so glad Ahnold finally showed at a pro-Israel rally. I was sick of defending his non-appearance at the last one to my Israeli friends.

I pray every day for iSlam*spit* to be totally destroyed. Break the yoke of this death cult and free 1 billion+ people from the insanity.

Condi did say one thing today that is quite significant. She said the US is looking to enduring solutions.

The is diplospeak for the not returning to the way things are.

Also in the Nasrallah clip in which he told people in advance of his intent to kidnap, he admitted he could not believe that Israel would respond the way they did. Proving, as if there were ever a need to do so that the tolitarian/fascist mind does not get how people's in democracies think.

When you live in the parallel universe, surprises like this tend to happen.

#43 SwampWoman

This is weird.

I can start a load of laundry while it refreshes, though!

"something must be done about galloway...just sayin'"

heh heh heh...i like that 'implicitness."...

but seriously and being an old hippie(only to get laid though) i think Karma will get him eventually somehow...i can see him doing an Oswald Mosley in the event...utterly discredited...shunned and scorned by decent society...ditto the contemptible Skerry and Gore.

Another Prager-lanche, perhaps?

#46 Wrath...

Thank you for those words.

#45 Earth2moonbat

Maybe the server needs a reboot, or something.

Yeah. Whatever. I get so tired of being asked if I rebooted.

:-)

#51 Ann

I can start a load of laundry while it refreshes, though!

Thanks for the reminder. (Need to throw a load in the dryer.)

Hey, maybe they can dry while it refreshes!

OT catch the replay of Glenn Beck. He did a great segment on Iran ... replays CNN at 9:00 central. He ended with "Hezzbolaerobics" skit.

lawhawk,

You certainly couldn't be more correct, but then you see quotes like this (from today's SF Chronicle article about the pro-Israel lobby on Saturday that I and my parents gladly attended):

>>

"The Hezbollah and Hamas attacks on Israel were on military forces, with very specific aims -- that is, prisoner exchanges," said Todd Chretien, a 37-year-old Oakland writer and activist running for U.S. Senate. "Instead, Israel has put into motion a pre-existing plan to reconquer Gaza, to destroy Hamas person by person, and to unleash the danger of a regionwide war in the Middle East."

>>

Whenever I read stuff like this quote, my blood just boils...what the heck is wrong with a person like Mr. Chretien? My only explanation is that he must be clinically insane...

I see he's running for Senate! There was a time that I would just dismiss a person like this, but nowadays I really worry for our future...

We take issue with the governor and the mayor taking sides on this issue, the pro-Israeli side, without consulting residents of California and Los Angeles,” said Salam al-Marayati of the council.

Hey muslimehead Israel is fighting HizbAllah who has killed over 250 Marines. They are America's enemies too.

In other news, Ethiopia is doing the lord's work trying to push back against the islamist militias taking over somalia:

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

#53 Noam Sayin'

I think there's something else going on, in addition. Maybe the Prager-lanche overflowed a stack somewhere, and now the app is corrupted. I think a reboot of the server is in order, but I'll leave that to the master.

#36 Golden Jerusalem,

Got a call.

My mate's a Tel Ha Shomer with shrapnel wounds.

I'm very sorry to hear that.

Please say a prayer for all our friends, family, sons and daughter here in Israel.

Will do. Many of us on the outside wish we could do more.

#8 aaron's rantblog

Name one convert to Islam or Muslim who has become more devout who has become a better American citizen.

I won't hold my breath.

My cabinet-maker! He spent some time in prison, learned a trade, converted to Islam and reintered society a force for good. He is very involved in his children's lives, he coaches pee-wee football and he is a very honorable man.

.

#54 Ann

I mean the server at Hosting Matters. Sometimes they need rebooting, too. Even when they're running Linux :P

#55 SwampWoman

Hey, maybe they can dry while it refreshes!

It seems to be getting better.

Hope that I didn't jinx it!

OT

These must be those innocent civilians I keep hearing about:

War Dead Flown to Iran

JERUSALEM — The bodies of Iranian Revolutionary Guard soldiers killed by the Israeli army in Lebanon have been transported to Syria and flown to Tehran, senior Lebanese political sources said.

Israeli and Egyptian security officials confirmed the news, which follows a report that first appeared in The New York Sun, that Iranian forces posted to southern Lebanon have been aiding Hezbollah terrorists in their attacks against Israel, including helping to fire rockets into Israeli population centers.

The Lebanese sources said between six and nine dead Iranian Revolutionary Guard soldiers were brought in trucks last week into Syria for a flight back to Iran.

According to a Drudge report Hizbull-haha sleeper cells are planning attacks on Jewish targets in the USA.

Well I hope the CIA, FBI & HomeLand Security have all the pics from the Islamo demonstrations that took place over the past 3 weeks.

Can anyone say "DEPORTATION"

sorry, you are threatening my homeland security

Those 7th century goat f*ckers are the ones calling this a "holy war". Lets make it one.
Kill their rock god.(goodbye mecca) and the rest of their "holy sites"

#62, Mandymanners,
#8 aaron's rantblog
Name one convert to Islam or Muslim who has become more devout who has become a better American citizen.

I won't hold my breath.

My cabinet-maker! He spent some time in prison, learned a trade, converted to Islam and reintered society a force for good. He is very involved in his children's lives, he coaches pee-wee football and he is a very honorable man.

Sorry, no go. The challenge was to name one convert who is now a better American citizen. I'd bet $$ to donuts the cabinet-maker's first allegiance is to islam, not the U.S. In my estimation you'll have to try harder.

#60 E2M

I think there's something else going on, in addition.

Well, we now now that the "sleeper cells" have been activated. I've been wondering if that includes their 3rd-rate cyber-hacks?

In SF yesterday, Dianne Feinstein gave a similar pro-Israel speech. I'll have it all online by tomorrow.

Why isn't MPAC complaining about Feinstein?

#65 Ann

Too late if you did!

;-)

#65 Ann

It's been getting better and worse, and better and worse, all day. I dont see a trend over more than maybe 5 or 10 minutes.

A moment of clarity from the UN but only for a second:

"Consistently, from the Hezbollah heartland, my message was that Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending ... among women and children," he said. "I heard they were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this. I don't think anyone should be proud of having many more children and women dead than armed men."

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

17 Stuck in CA

You want to give LA and SF 2 senators each? WTF?

I sent a email to the council. Copy below.

Salam al-Marayati of your council made this remark in reference to Mr. Schwarzenegger's support of Israel.

"We take issue with the governor and the mayor taking sides on this issue, the pro-Israeli side, without consulting residents of California and Los Angeles."

Let me explain this to YOU. In this country we have freedom of speech. We don't have to consult YOU or the Koran or the Bible or the Torah or anyone if we want to state an opinion or belief.

I know this may be an impossible concept for you to grasp, since it doesn't compute with the rantings of your prophet or your Sharia law.

But guess what. It is not going to work here, never, ever and the more you folks make comments like above, the more you just expose your true nature.

People all over the world are "getting it." By it's own hand, Islam is exposing itself as a political ideology (and not a religion), which is willing to destroy and kill ANYONE who doesn't agree with it's mission.

So I just wanted to encourage your group, and groups like yours to keep up the good work, you'll hang yourselves with your own words.

And I'm not sorry that I didn't consult you before I penned this email.

Walter L. Newton

Noam, every time I try to send you an email it gets returned.
What's up with that?

#36 Golden Jerusalem -Prayers have been going up for a long while now; additional ones on the way.
I'm so sorry about your friend.

Thank you, Arnold.

#8 Missouri Boy

and the rest of their "holy sites"

There wouldn't be anything left for the rest of us.

Your chair? That's their 1,548,564,894th most holy of sites.

#21 aunursa
They also seethed over the participation of DiFi in the San Francisco rally. Mayor Gavin Newsom attended but did not speak, while Sen. Boxer and Rep. Pelosi sent letters of support.

You'll hear about it soon on zombietime!

^ er... #68 Missouri Boy

#76 Walter L. Newton

You're going to be branded an "islamophobe". SOP.

#82 M
I would give up every chair if it meant ending iSlam. But we could start with the most important sites 1st, and maybe we wouldn't have to do chairs. LOL!

Why would he consult with them? If you want to show proper disrespect, you ignore their very existence and you sure as shooting don't discuss this with them.

#76 Walter L. Newton

So I just wanted to encourage your group, and groups like yours to keep up the good work, you'll hang yourselves with your own words.

Just a few changes and you can send the same letter to Howie Dean and the DNC.

What is wrong with these people? They move to this country and then they literally think that they own it. What a bunch of losers and whiners.

Now, if I was the Govenor of California, I would be making it very plain and simple to these 'people' that they can go and ...

how shall I put it delicately...

get the hell out of the US

#76 Walter L. Newton

You're going to be branded an "islamophobe". SOP.

I hope so.

What's a SOP, I represent that remark.

Walter in Golden, Co.

Are these guys stupid? Have they never seen True Lies? DO THEY KNOW WHAT ARNIE DOES TO ARABS HE DOESN'T LIKE?!

As I posted another thread when this was brought up, "taking sides" is EXACTLY what we pay our politicians to do. Were we to hold a public referendum on each and every statement by every pol in this country we might as well dissolve the government and declare anarchy.

If they don't like what he said and what he stands for, they can work against him when he runs for re-election.

WrathofG_d - the people of Israel have many more supporters than you know. You have our moral support and our political support. If you need our monetary support, you will have that too. We stand with Israel. Today, in this battle, we are ALL Israeli.

#64 Earth2moonbat

I mean the server at Hosting Matters. Sometimes they need rebooting, too. Even when they're running Linux :P

Oh, I know that you weren't suggesting that I should reboot.

I was just laughing at the fact that anytime I have had computer issues in my life, the help desk, husband, everyone asks me if I've rebooted.

Just bitter.

I'm fine now :-)

“The mayor and the governor should not drag us into this foreign conflict,” he said.

Oh, yeah? Tell that Red Ken Livingston, the Marxist mayor of London.

Well, I actually live in California and actually voted for the man

If you don't live here, didn't vote here, then kiss my ass.

Thank God that at least someone has integrity. Arnold is very good at telling interest groups what he thinks.

The Terminator vs. Hezbollah? Sounds like a fair match to me.

:-)

Nice to see a politician with some backbone.

88 standard operating procedure

#85 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

What's insidious is the idea that private organizations act as if they have some kind of special standing, and thus government has an obligation to treat them differently than they treat anyone else. They took this page from the unelected "leaders of the African-American community", who showed how to aquire power without being elected by anyone except the LLL media.

This is, in addition to other things, anti-democratic at its core, because it bestows special status upon unelected NGOs. MPAC, you have no standing. Go away.

“We take issue with the governor and the mayor taking sides on this issue, the pro-Israeli side, without consulting residents of California and Los Angeles,” said Salam al-Marayati of the council.

He means without consulting HIM.

What's Arabic for "fuck you"?

#72 m and
#73 Earth2moonbat I don't know what you guys are talking about I don't have any prob

#94 T Jefferson: It would not be a fair match...Hez-eboli would need some serious help. I highly doubt that The Terminator would even break a sweat.

#88 Walter L. Newton

SOP: Standard Operating Procedure

#71 Why isn't MPAC complaining about Feinstein?

I guess they were counting any possible latent Nazi genes Arnold may be hosting.

OT-

French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy had to take cover under a stairway in Haifa when the sirens sounded Sunday.

Douste-Blazy is visiting the region as diplomatic efforts to end Israel's war with the Lebanese guerrilla group intensify.

Mr. Minister, a few questions please. Why is it "Israel's war" when the terrorist invaded Israel and killed and kidnapped its soldiers first? Which Diplomats have been dispatched to Hezbollah? To Hamas? Should they reach an understanding for a ceasefire will you take them at their word? Why? How asinine is it to think you can negotiate with a terrorist organization? Does having to hide from these rockets give you any idea what the Israelis have been going through since the Gaza pullout? Do you realize that since the pullout at least one rocket attack has occurred every single day? Should Israel succeed in its efforts to rid southern Lebanon of these terrorist don’t you think that would be a great boon to the new Lebanese Democracy?

#62

Yeh, we had a church elder could have been described the same way. Ended up being a pedophile.

#100 steve:

Now that you mention it, I agree. That match just might be a light warm-up!

:-)

#69 quzziguy -

I'd bet $$ to donuts the cabinet-maker's first allegiance is to islam, not the U.S. In my estimation you'll have to try harder.

The two commandments of Christ:

Luk 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Even Christians are to give their first allegiance to the Lord.

OT:

This must be a joke or something:

DESPITE HAMAS & HEZ'B'allaH...OLMERT STILL STANDS FIRMLY BEHIND ETHNICALLY CLEANSING JUDEA & SAMARIA (IE: Reallignment in the West Bank).

OT, but crucial to the debate.

The response to Walt Mearscheimier.

#76 Walter

Amen. Thank you.

Oh, and if you see any CAIR reps anytime soon, tell them to kiss my ass. That would be right after you tell them to kiss yours.

'preciate it.

“We take issue with the governor and the mayor taking sides on this issue, the pro-Israeli side, without consulting residents of California and Los Angeles,” said Salam al-Marayati of the council.

Hey Salam, I'll tell you the same thing my Dad used to tell us when we whined about stupid shit that we had control over:

Waaayh, FUCK-IN' waaayh.

#9 Fjordman
Thank you for linking to that informative article by the historian Kuntzel, that appeared in Der Spiegel.
One part that drew my attention was the quote by Ahmadinejad that shows the global extent of Iran's goals on behalf of radical Islam. It is surprising because Ahmadinejad frankly admits what many people have been saying: the war to eliminate Israel is just the opening salvo of a much larger war against the Dar al Harb.

This is what he means by a war against "arrogance". It is the infidel, who in refusing to convert to Islam or to become a dhimmi, is "arrogant" in the eyes of Ahmadinejad. And that is what he hopes to Evrectify with nuclear jihad.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad himself has pointed to Islam's larger conflict with the Western world. When, in October of 2005, he called for the elimination of Israel, he added: "We are in the middle of a historical war that has been going on for hundreds of years." This war, Ahmadinejad's war, has nothing to do with the most recent flare up of the Middle East conflict. "The current war taking place in Palestine," Ahmadinejad has said, is nothing more than "the frontline between the Islamic world and the world of arrogance. We have to recognize the baseness of our enemy so that our holy hatred expands continuously and strikes like a wave."

This "holy hatred" comes with no conditions attached. It doesn't depend on whether one is Jewish or not -- the single measuring stick is whether one blindly obeys the Sharia and dedicates one's life to the Koran. And this "hate" wouldn't disappear were Israel to cease to exist -- the Islamist creed calls for the "World of Arrogance" to also submit to the Sharia, meaning this genocidal wave of hate should ultimately spread across the globe. In order to expedite this goal, the Iranian leadership indicated that thousands of suicide bombers would be sent out to targets across the world. The men and women of the Israeli military are currently fighting on the front lines against this apocalyptic program -- should we not at least consider offering our solidarity?

"We are in the middle of a historical war that has been going on for hundreds of years" -- Ahmadinejad

Even if Israel were to disappear, that would not be the end of Ahmadinejad's hate nor would that be the end of Ahmadinejad's war. A "hsitorical war" with the "world of arrogance" that has been going on for hundreds of years implies much, much greater ambitions, much greater hate, and much more war against the world of the infidel until it converts and accepts Sharia or accepts dhimmitude.

Ahmadinejad has shown what he has in mind for his nuclear jihad.

Why Israel's Reaction is Right

#107 WrathofG-d
Not surprising. I have to admit, at the time I thought the Gaza pull-out was worth trying. I'm now rethinking, Olmert isn't.

And now the end of the world news...

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Pakistan is building a new nuclear reactor that could produce enough plutonium for 40 to 50 nuclear weapons a year...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Columnist Imad Afaneh said the US was hoping to punish Syria and Iran through the IDF offensive in Lebanon.

"The Americans want to teach Iran and Syria a lesson for using Hizbullah to undermine US influence in the Middle East," he said. "The Americans and the Israelis are also hoping to defeat the Palestinians by waging a war on Hizbullah in Lebanon.

"The Americans want a new Middle East devoid of jihad, resistance, liberation, martyrdom, retaliation and dignity. These are all terms that disturb the Americans.

#115 gbl

That's not true. I think we should hasten their martyrdom along. Stop the whining!

Now, that's an ambassador.

#115 - The Americans want a new Middle East devoid of jihad, resistance, liberation, martyrdom, retaliation and dignity. These are all terms that disturb the Americans.M/b>

This is distinctly untrue. We are all for dignity for all human beings - including women, slaves and JEWS. We are absolutely for resistance of all free people towards Islamic domination. And we are absolutely for liberation for all - especially women and slaves.

Hit it right on the head though about jihad, martyrdom & retaliation.

By the way, I emailed MPAC and told them that as a resident of California, I voted for Arnold, will vote for him again, and I support Israel.

Put THAT in you felafel, Ahmed.

OT

Weekly Standard has this article, dateline today: Kos, Hezbollah, and Israel
Israel's war reveals a division between the liberal blogosphere and the Democratic party.
by Dean Barnett

Quotes from Daily Kos in the article include "Pray for the Speedy Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of Israel" and "[Israel] has become a spreading plague."

I followed a link to aKos diary that had pics of those little girls in Israel writing on bombs, followed by dead baby Lebanese and lots of vitriol. In the comments, I found this nugget:

this is the 2nd anti semitic diary of late.

It's radical chic to support thugs and trash a country of decent people.

I'm starting to wonder if my wing-nut brother has a point.
by umatic on Wed Jul 19, 2006 at 02:39:45 AM PDT

without consulting residents of California and Los Angeles

As if the jihadi cowards consult the Israelis before they blow up a bus full of innocent civilians.

Islam is indeed a severe mental illness.

By the way, Drudge is reporting that the Palis called for a "Day of Rage" to protest Rice's visit to the Middle East.

Who would notice? Isn't it like every other day?

#115 gbl

"The Americans want a new Middle East devoid of jihad, resistance, liberation, martyrdom, retaliation and dignity. These are all terms that disturb the Americans.

The idea of expansive or irredentist jihad is incompatible with human life and human values in the 21st century. This is a malignant ideology that must be defeated. If somebody claims that this malignant ideology, involving expansive or irredentist jihad, is their religion, well, tough. It's still a malignant ideology, even if somebody claims that that is their religion. And it must be defeated if there is to be any hope of peace and freedom on this globe.

Martyrdom is their euphemism for the death cult iconization of suicide murderers, who carry out their grisly acts for expansive or irredentist jihad.

Dignity is what is meant by Ahmadinejad's reference to being in the middle of a war that has been going on for hundreds of years against the "world of arrogance" -- that is, against the infidel that refuses to convert to Islam or to accept second class humiliated status of dhimmitude. Dignity for the radical Islamist ideology, that pretends to be a religion, consists of conquering and humiliating the kafir. Anything less than that is humiliation for the radical Islamist.

Retaliation is eternal irredentism. It means for example conquering Israel, since it was once under Muslim conquest, and conquering Spain, since Spain also was once under Muslim conquest. And it means waging jihad based on perceived grievances going back centuries, against the rest of the world. It means never moving on.

Liberation refers to fresh conquests on behalf of Islam. This applies especially to lands in which the kafir is the majority, and Muslims are a minority. It is part of the eternal expansive jihad.

Resistance is the euphemism that they give for their terrorism.

OT: Earlier I said 9PM central for Glenn Beck, it's 8PM, he has a segment on Iran that's very good. so in 17 minutes or so. Don't tune in yet, tho, the hezbollah cheerleader Zahn is on right now.

#36 Golden Jerusalem,

Got a call.

My mate's a Tel Ha Shomer with shrapnel wounds.

How frightening to have it come close. Of course prayers are going out for all.

#123, EE

Well said... Wow.

Are they suggesting that Arnold take side with the Islamic scum that are the enemies of this nation?

By the way, Drudge is reporting that the Palis called for a "Day of Rage" to protest Rice's visit to the Middle East

Um isn't that called a monday in Pali land?

His participation at the pro-Israel rally drew protests from the Muslim Public Affairs Council.
“We take issue with the governor and the mayor taking sides on this issue, the pro-Israeli side, without consulting residents of California and Los Angeles,” said Salam al-Marayati of the council.

If you don't like it, you'll have a chance to vote against them in November. Until then, go sit in on a junior high school civics class, and maybe you'll start to understand how government works in this part of the world.

OK, let's hear some creative input from LGF readers what Bush and Condi are hoping to achieve diplomatically against Iran.

How about getting the UN involved in an Oil for Food program?

How about a couple of surprise Nuke inspections from Hans Blix?

How about "keeping them in their box" ( except for the international terrorism, support for aggressive warfare, and nuke building)?

Sanctions anybody? We could cut off legal Hollywood DVDs and copies of Microsoft Windows.

Ooh, wouldn't China just provide thsi stuff to Iran much cheaper than America and her "allies"?

Well, I'm out of ideas. What else could the US possibly do to stop Iran?

#46 Wrath,

Your welcome for the support. 99% of Evangelicals stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel and the priviledge is ours. And though we have theological differences, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is our God too. We know where our roots lie.

Wish we could do more.

#131 PIMF Your/you're. I am going to have to quit using contractions. Speeds the response but makes me look illiterate while doing so.

Hasta La Viesta MPAC

You know, I voted for Schwarzenegger (over my favorite, Gary Coleman), based on the belief that he would pillage other states and countries to solve the budget crisis.

I've been disappointed.

But now it seems a vestige of that warrior spirit remains.

"We of Cuhlifornia salute you, Israel!"

Now all we need is:

"Hiz'bAllah are Girly Men! Hiding behind women and children! Cowards! Have you no dignity? Are you incapable of standing on your own two feet and facing your enemies! The FACT that you hide behind children PROVES that not only are your enemies morally superior to you, since they do not wish to see children harmed, but that YOU KNOW your enemies are morally superior, or you wouldn't try to use innocent children as shields to protect you!"

THAT should be the next Scwarzenegger speech.

No no no...The hizbollah plants are the wide-awake ones. IT is the rest of us that are sleeping.
(not those here but the rest of the USA.)

“We take issue with the governor and the mayor taking sides on this issue, the pro-Israeli side, without consulting residents of California and Los Angeles,” said Salam al-Marayati of the council.

Arnold does not need to ask your permission. Arnold is not a girlie-man.

#130 funkyfantom

Well, I'm out of ideas. What else could the US possibly do to stop Iran?

I hope you like surprises.

#123 EE

Hmmm...I've been arguing for a long time that Marxism (and it's bastard, environmentalism) is a religion. Maybe that's not such a good idea strategically. While I believe it to be true, you make a very good case why a malignant ideology shouldn't be accorded that status. The islamists are trying to bring a malignant ideology inside of the Trojan horse of religion. Better people know it as less than that.

The best word for both islam and Marxism/environmentalism is cult. We need to have a clear understanding of the distinction between a religion and a cult, and then understand these ideologies as cults.

#46 - Coolest thing I've read all day, you are most welcome.

#131 - Amen and Amen.

#69 guzziguy 7/24/2006 04:28PM PDT

#62, Mandymanners,
#8 aaron's rantblog
Name one convert to Islam or Muslim who has become more devout who has become a better American citizen.

I won't hold my breath.

My cabinet-maker! He spent some time in prison, learned a trade, converted to Islam and reintered society a force for good. He is very involved in his children's lives, he coaches pee-wee football and he is a very honorable man.

Sorry, no go. The challenge was to name one convert who is now a better American citizen. I'd bet $$ to donuts the cabinet-maker's first allegiance is to islam, not the U.S. In my estimation you'll have to try harder.

Actually, I don't *have* to do anything. I am willing to share the following with you. He flies the flag over his house. His wife is a Baptist. (If anyone tried to make her walk two steps behind, she'd pound him into the ground.)

His kids say the Pledge of Allegiance with all the other kids at school (my son went to Kindergarten with one of them). He coaches Pee-Wee football and his kids are in T-ball with my son. He is raising two incredibly well-mannered and articulate boys.

We (including our immediate and extended families) have known each other about two years as he has renovated my home--kitchens, bathrooms, library, den and living room. My first clue as to his religion were the prison tats on his hands.

We got to talking one day, and we've developed a nice relationship. I don't know if he prays five times a day facing Mecca, and it's none of my business. He goes to mosque when he can (the closest is two hours away).

When I asked him the other day what he thought about the war between Israel and Hizb'Allah, he said Lebanon had no idea the kind of ass-whippin' Israel was about to unleash and that Lebanon needs to take back control of its nation.

For him, the jihad is to rise above his past and his crimes, to be a better husband and father. He recently bought his first home, complete with an in-ground pool and lotsa' land.

To me, he is a model American. He is trying--and succeeding--to be a good father, husband and citizen. He's too busy getting ahead to get involved in hate.

#106 windybon 7/24/2006 04:54PM PDT
#69 quzziguy -

I'd bet $$ to donuts the cabinet-maker's first allegiance is to islam, not the U.S. In my estimation you'll have to try harder.

The two commandments of Christ:

Luk 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Even Christians are to give their first allegiance to the Lord.

Thank you. I was trying to work that into my most recent post but I got worked up.

If it ever comes down to my having to choose which one to obey, I'll go with God.

OTOH, until the crunch--if it ever comes--I'll do my best to render unto Caesar.

Hey, MPAC, you girlie-men. You t'ink you got da muscles?

Don't mess with the Arnold 'cause he's gonna' fuck CLAP you up.

(Kudos to Hans'n'Frans from SNL.)

Well, I guess I will have to vote for the big guy again come November, eh?

sparking criticism by a Muslim organization

In the (in)famous words of some other website operator... "Screw them".

#57 Tempestman

Whenever I read stuff like this quote, my blood just boils...what the heck is wrong with a person like Mr. Chretien? My only explanation is that he must be clinically insane...

David Horowitz calls them "ideologically delusional."

T

he mayor and the governor should not drag us into this foreign conflict,

They just don't likt the side he took.

To ahhhnuld: From one of your voters/supporters, thanks for upholding my suport of you.

To MPAC:

Kiss my hairy white behind. You don't speak for California or most Californians.

C

Im just thinking of that truck-load of clowns on the Florida Causeway in the truck with the shoulder-SAM missile in True Lies, the guy behind them desperately shielding his face and crying NO NO NO as the two operating it let fly from back of truck at the two USMC Harriers..

We laughed..guy watching it beside me said, Bloody Abdullahs, Ha Ha ha...

So Arnold isnt allowed to take sides in a conflict unless its their side.

Arnold hasnt taken sides against Lebanon or Arabs anyway, hes taken sides against demented Islamic terror armies backed by demented war-mongering Iran which terrorise fellow Arabs and Lebanese far far more than they harm Israel.
Why do they get a bellyache about someone criticising militant extremist terrorists? Arent they often assuring us they dont share these views or sympathize with the likes of Hezbollah?

I just hope Israel shatters those bastards, and most of that so-called civilian population in that area is 100% supportive of Hezbollah anyway, so hold the left-wing tears for the poor 'civilians' being killed.
Hezbollah today rejected US proposals for a ceasefire anyway, so why didnt compassion for all these suffereing civilians kick in?
I hope Israel greases every single one of those Hezbollah fucks,and doesnt stop till it has,
and so does every decent peaceful Arab and Lebanese, even if theyre too afraid to say so out loud.

Situations like this indicate we are not headed to resolution but the boiling point.

More and more Americans are being forced to live with higher and higher degrees of security.

Muslims need to stop blaming their problems and woes on others and clean their act and condemn their own scum. Hezbollah needs to be condemned for the brutal, aggressive, cowardly org. that has no problem with mass murder and really doesn't care about the welfare of innocent civilians.

When Muslims condemn their own scum, then they will deserve to be taken seriously. Until then they deserve contempt and cynicism.

Muslim jokes:

1) A man walks into a sex toy shop and asks for a blow up doll. The vender says, "Christian or Muslim?" The man asks, "What is the difference?" "The Muslim doll blows herself up!"

2)At a Muslim school, a teacher tells the children that they will talk about something important. One of the kids asks, "What will we talk about?" The teacher responds, "What do you want to be when you BLOW UP!"