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 RetweetDeath Cult Hero Samir Kuntar

Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 9:15:52 am PDT

Samir Kuntar, currently imprisoned in Israel, is a hero in Lebanon and the Palestinian Authority.

And he’s a cold-blooded, remorseless child killer. (Hat tip: WriterMom.)

JERUSALEM — He stares out from a poster like a movie star. Clean-shaven but for his thick, dark mustache, with dark curly hair and piercing blue eyes, he poses on one jeans-clad knee, staring fiercely into the camera.

To Palestinians, and to Hezbollah, Samir Kuntar is a hero, a political prisoner who has spent 27 years in Israeli jails.

A Druze from a small village in south Lebanon, Mr. Kuntar is one of four Lebanese prisoners in Israeli prisons, and is by far the longest-serving of those on record. (Palestinian human-rights activists believe there is another Lebanese prisoner who has been held a year longer, but his detention has never been confirmed by Israeli authorities.) When Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah speaks now of freeing Lebanese prisoners from Israel, it is Mr. Kuntar he is seeking.

But Mr. Kuntar is a killer. In 1979, at the age of 17, he and three others, recruited by a Palestinian militant group fighting an Israeli incursion into Lebanon, launched a small boat from the tip of Lebanon’s southern coast and came ashore at the northern Israeli town of Nahariya. There, they killed a police officer they encountered, before taking a family of four in an apartment hostage.

The mother, Smadar Haran, had managed to slip into a crawl space with her two-year-old daughter Yael and avoid detection. But as police began to arrive, the gunmen took her husband Danny and four-year-old daughter Einat down to the beach, where they shot Danny in front of his daughter and smashed in her skull with a rifle butt.

The tragedy didn’t end there; Smadar’s frantic efforts to keep her little one quiet resulted in Yael’s death from suffocation. ...

“Experience tells me there have been many prisoner swaps, and at the end of the day there will be one [involving Kuntar],” said Buthaina Duqmaq, a lawyer and founder of the Mandela Institute in Ramallah, an advocacy group for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli institutions, who visits Mr. Kuntar regularly.

From her bag, she pulls out a half-dozen strings of worry beads — some in the red-and-black colours of Palestine, some in the yellow-and-green of Hezbollah — all made by women in prison as gifts for Mr. Kuntar.

“He is a symbol of the Arab prisoners’ movement. He is very much liked . . . thousands of prisoners that have been inside Israeli jails talk about him. Even those who have not met him talk about him,” she said. ...

“I have never heard him repent. I have never heard him regret. To him, he joined a liberation movement and he is proud of that,” Ms. Duqmaq said.

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1 Gabba Gabba Hey  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:18:51am

May he rot forever.

2 toddhisattva  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:19:50am

That's the Nelson Mengele Group in Ramallah, right?

3 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:20:41am

Strap him to a 1000lb bomb and ship him home by air.

4 spanishpete  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:20:48am

do the swap but give him a radioactive spec in his last meal. the fucker will die of cancer in six months.

5 tsivya  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:20:50am

why is that pos still alive

6 pork rinds for allah  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:20:52am

let's just shoot him in his cell already

7 Lynn B.  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:21:00am

Israel needs to find a way to take Kuntar off the table. Permanently.

8 RedPepper  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:21:38am

Yet another good argument ( as if we needed one ... ) for the death penalty.

9 Muck DeFuslims  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:21:42am

Israel's own fault.
If this rabid dog had been executed there'd be no talk of freeing him in a swap.

10 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:22:16am

LOVE YOU CHARLES!

Thank you for putting this front and centre!

11 IndianTiger  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:22:44am

I want to rip this bastard's throat with my fingers. Anybody else having the same urge?

12 jcm  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:22:47am

In the name of Allah.

ROPMA.

13 Mike C.  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:23:57am

I don't hold with this "kill 'em all" crap. But this one they could simply shoot, cremate, and have done with it. Pardon me, but sometimes Israel shows too much of it's European ancestry.

14 pat  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:24:08am

OT
Brithish estimate it will take a 1000 years to wipe FGM IN BRITAIN. What a bunch of LLL Losers.

15 addison  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:24:36am
Palestinian human-rights activists


That may qualify as oxymoron of the year.

16 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:25:43am

Look at this bitch and her lede:

He stares out from a poster like a movie star. Clean-shaven but for his thick, dark mustache, with dark curly hair and piercing blue eyes, he poses on one jeans-clad knee, staring fiercely into the camera.

To Palestinians, and to Hezbollah, Samir Kuntar is a hero

Sickening blood cult baby killers.

This piece, IMHO rivals TEARS FOR ARAFISH FROM THE BBC.

17 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:25:48am
He stares out from a poster like a movie star.

I already want to vomit.

The media is DISGUSTING. I cannot take how they fawn over mass-murderers.

18 pat  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:26:41am

link to female mutiation story

[Link: www.alertnet.org...]

19 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:26:43am

SEND LETTERS TO THE GLOBE AND MAIL:
The Globe and Mail: letters@globeandmail.ca

20 storagemanager  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:27:01am
Iran Mullahs' AimJul 28, 2006
Amil Imani - Persian Journal


The world is presently at its most wicked. It is beyond human help. It requires only a nudge to implode and prepare for the divine ruler, the Saheb-ul-Zaman (the Mahdi, the Lord of the Age) to come and set it aright. It is the sacred duty and privilege of every Muslim to do all he can to hasten the death of the old world and the birth of the global Islamic Ummeh. Thus goes the thinking of Iran 's ruling mullahs and their hand-picked president Mahmood Ahmadinejad.


[Link: www.iranian.ws...]

21 oilbertan  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:27:22am

If there was truly justice, someone would put his head up against a rock and beat him to death with a rifle butt.

22 fireangel  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:28:06am

No regret? Sounds like a true sciopath to me. It would never cross their minds that if he was free and it was to his advantage he'd not hesitate to kill them. Islam breeds and makes heroes out of monsters.

23 Terp Mole  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:28:19am

Meanwhile in wacademia, journalism senior Zack Eckels reassures Kansas State Collegians;

Israel vs. Lebanon
Hezbollah not terrorists
By: Zachary T. Eckels

Israel, using the United States' help, became the victim of this war. It pointed out to the world that it had returned all the land that the U.N. said belonged to Lebanon. It questioned how this country could be so ungrateful to its liberators.

President Bush immediately declared support for Israel, and Hezbollah was quickly confirmed as a terrorist organization in a type of global McCarthyism.

With the smell of war in the air people soon forgot that even if the land should belong to Syria, and not Lebanon, it still doesn't belong to Israel. Also, nobody questioned why Israel was still holding prisoners in a time when these countries need to be making peace.

That "smell... in the air" is courtesy of self-described "recreational user" Zack Eckels.

Party on, Rez-bowl-ah...

24 Murqtaad  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:29:02am

He's a hero allright... why is he still taking in oxygen. Martyr the slime bag.

25 Buckaroo  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:29:11am

# 14 p

They almost got rid of the suttee in what, a generation? And now this? Sigh ...

26 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:29:29am

Kuntar should have been executed long ago. There shouldn't be any murderers available to swap for IDF soldiers.

27 BabbaZee  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:29:46am

Jews warned against harassment

The Mosaic Religious Community has advised its Jewish members against speaking Hebrew loudly on the streets of Oslo or wearing Jewish emblems. The suggestion has infuriated some in the membership.

[Link: www.aftenposten.no...]

28 storagemanager  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:30:10am
Iran's War on Israel

The border raid by Hezbollah that sparked swift and strong Israeli military reaction in southern Lebanon was not only an act of war by Hezbollah, but an act of war by proxy by Iran. It is inconceivable that such a provocative act could have been undertaken without the knowledge and approval of people at the highest levels of Iran's government. The warfare was even foreshadowed by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who in a burst of inflammatory rhetoric warned in advance that Israel would be hit by an "explosion" of Muslim anger

[Link: www.iranian.ws...]

29 NoSubmission  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:30:19am

Here's the POS's official website. Brace your eyes for a whole lot of ugly!

[Link: www.samirkuntar.org...]

30 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:30:30am

Thanks WriterMom, for sending this to Charles.

31 baier  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:31:20am

I said when this first started that Israel wouldn't have the will to do what needed to be done. I wish I had been wrong. Based on the weakness of will that failed to get done what needed to get done, I think we may be sitting shiva for Israel in the next ten to twenty years.

32 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:31:28am

#29 NoSubmission

Not goin' there, no sireee.

33 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:32:21am

Man, what's with all the Sheraton New Orleans blogads?

34 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:32:33am

This is a hero.

A Soldier's Sacrifice in Lebanon

Two hours before Israeli Maj. Roi Klein's funeral Thursday evening, his best friend sat outside his house, gently shaking his head over what he believed was a split-second act of selflessness.

Klein, according to second-hand accounts conveyed by the friend, Eliezer Kashtiel, threw his body over a hand grenade Wednesday in the Lebanese village of Bint Jbeil, sacrificing his life for the sake of his soldiers.

The last paragraph of this article crushed me.

There is a cemetery near Eli, a hilltop settlement mainly peopled with observant Jews, but Klein's family decided he should be buried in the famous Mount Herzl military cemetery in Jerusalem, Kashtiel said. Klein's parents were too elderly to make the long journey to Eli, he said. And Klein's wife, Sarah, said her husband's love of Jerusalem would make it the perfect place.

More than a thousand mourners crowded into the cemetery Thursday night as red sunlight filtered through the pine trees over Klein's grave. It would have been his birthday.

More from The Jerusalem Post:

Eli mourns two brave sons

Maj. Ro'i Klein and Lt. Amihai Merhavia of Battalion 51 used to drive together to their Golani Brigade unit from their respective houses in Eli. On Thursday, they were buried in their West Bank settlement, a day after they and six other soldiers were killed in a battle in the southern Lebanese town of Bint Jbail.

Klein, 31, jumped on a grenade during the course of the battle, giving his life to protect his soldiers.

"First he said the 'Shema' prayer and then he jumped on a grenade. That's why some of the soldiers who were with him survived," said Yechiel Leiter, a resident of Eli.

35 Terp Mole  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:33:45am

Meanwhile in Utah wacademia;

Hezbollah 'attacks' kill far fewer than Israel's 'collateral damage'
So why are U.S. lawmakers so firmly on-board with the Israelis?
By: Steve Gehrke

"Collateral damage" is an interesting term. Let's not forget that Israelis are dying, and not just Jewish Israelis. Recently a Hezbollah rocket attack killed two Arab children-a tragedy for which Sheik Hassan Nasrallah apologized as he labeled the brothers "martyrs for Palestine."

But [but, But, BUT!] the battle has killed 24 IDF troops and 18 Israeli civilians while as many as 422 Lebanese had died as of late Wednesday, just 11 of whom have been confirmed associates with Hezbollah, according to several major media outlets. A bulk of this statistic is due to Hezbollah's cowardice in using civilians as shields, but [but, But, BUT!] it's difficult for Israel to keep claiming this after its military apparently leveled a U.N. post, killing four observers. Whether this was the intended target as U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan claims, or error as Israel claims, most importantly it raises an important question: How are Israeli and European lives worth so much more than the Lebanese?

Steve (no doubt) pines for more US casualties to confirm the worth of Afghan al-Qeada. If only more had perished at Pearl Harbor, Steve wouldn't feel so bad about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Next, Steve's moral abacus will calculate the number of angels dancing on his pinhead.

36 starfox5253  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:34:16am

#23

I just love journalism majors like this kid... There is no real pressure to investigate "facts."

Apparently history began the year Zack started being interested.

The best part is:

Hezbollah was quickly confirmed as a terrorist organization in a type of global McCarthyism.

Hello 1983... Maybe that wasn't the act of a terrorist group?

oh wait, that was before Zack was born so it doesn't count.

37 Poitiers-Lepanto  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:34:19am

Why is the West so weak, why is this bastard alive ? Why he has not been hanged ?

/nope, this is not an attack against Israel, I say the same thing all the time about the tourists we maintain at Gitmo.

//argh

38 j-damn  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:34:33am

I think they missed the 'h' and the 'i' in this guy's last name.

39 storagemanager  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:34:42am
19:17 Russian FM: Any deal between Israel, Lebanon will have to include Hezbollah (AFP)
40 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:34:46am

[comment withheld]

41 Poitiers-Lepanto  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:36:21am

OT OT OT

#19 WriterMom

I finally saw your post of this morning on yesterday's Zawahiri thread and I posted an answer, not knowing you were here. Should still be the last of the thread.

42 mkm19602000  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:36:58am

#32 Ward Clever

Agreed, why give the asswipe's website any hits. I read the mother's account. Why that waste of oxgen is still using up our precious natural resources, I can't explain.

43 theheat  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:38:04am

Alive and in prison he's merely a martyr - a piece of collateral for his fellow 'slims to bargain for.

Assholes like this should be taking a dirt nap, not reaping headlines.

Stop creating problems for yourselves and terminate people like this.

44 Smit  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:38:49am

You wanna see the "Movie Star" stare of this murderer?

[Link: images.google.co.uk...]

45 exredtory  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:40:24am

Indeed, why do prisoners like Kuntar continue to be held?

They should have been hanged years ago.

46 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:40:29am

storagemanager (#39)

No surprise.

47 zhorkon  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:42:43am

#4 spanishpete

Your idea has often occurred to me too, except that I'd love to see these cretins released carrying something more infectious - so their fawning groupies could be taken out with them.

Alas, we're "civilized", right? We have to hunt down these POS one at a time, sometimes over and over again after we release them prematurely, and then afford them the maximum legal consideration and services of the benign societies they strive to destroy... All at great cost to us.

The end of this madness will come when some power can flawlessly identify the scum amongst the innocent bystanders, scoop them up quickly and easily, and administer real justice, once and for all.

48 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:43:20am

Now that idiot Blair is pushing for Bush to call for a cease fire.

49 Spiny Norman  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:44:14am

#45 exredtory

Indeed, why do prisoners like Kuntar continue to be held?

They should have been hanged years ago.

Yep. If the Army of Baal wants him back so bad, send the bastard back in a pine box.

50 J.D.  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:44:46am

#48 zulubaby
It's just diplomacy.
Aggravating, I know.

51 Smit  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:46:06am

ugh, I just read a couple of pages on the website dedicated to him.

Samir now is trying to registered for M.A studies in "Democracy", he said if Israeli want my to stay here then I will continue in my studies tell the PHD degree

As per readings other than his studies, and because Samir knows very well English and Hebrew , he read all magazines and books that were allowed in these languages too.

/not sure it isn't Iowahawk.

52 3 wood  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:48:11am

#13 Mike C.

I don't hold with this "kill 'em all" crap. But this one they could simply shoot, cremate, and have done with it.

I agree. Maybe he will have himself an "accident".

53 Spiny Norman  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:48:51am

#48 zulubaby

Now that idiot Blair is pushing for Bush to call for a cease fire.

The Hizballahbots and their puppetmasters have already announced that they'll never accept one, so what's the point? Pandering to the other Muslims?

As if they'll buy it...

54 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:49:06am

#51 smit:

C'mon you Lilywhites!

/Gotta catch up some time :)

55 j-damn  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:53:41am

Re: Zach Eckels
Or, it's good to see they still make college kids as dumb as they did in my day.

*The trouble began in 1947, when the British withdrew from the land.*

No, the trouble began in 1100, when Moslem hordes swept out of the Arabian peninsula to forcibly convert all those they encountered.

* The Jews and Arabs immediately started a war.*

No, several Arab states ganged up on the new state of Israel after snubbing numerous political settlements offered by third-parties.

*With the creation of Israel in 1948, the Jews won and doubled their territory. The Arabs of the region were driven off their land and into their own refugee camps.*

The Arabs left after their neighboring states told them to leave, promising that they could return as soon as the Jews were all slaughtered.

*In 1982, understandably still upset over this land dispute, Hezbollah was formed.*

Hezbollah did not form because of the "Nakba" of 1948. Hezbollah formed to spread Khomeni style shi'a revolution in Lebanon.

*Inspired by the Iranian revolution, the "Party of God" was determined to get southern Lebanon back from the Israelis.*

No, Hezbollah was/is determined to install an Islamic republic in Lebanon similar to that in Iran.

*According to the U.N., Lebanon has no argument for Sheeba Farms, a section of land about 9 miles in length by 2 miles in width. It says, in agreement with Israel, that the land belongs to Syria. However, in a BBC article on this conflict, Syria agreed that the land belonged to Lebanon.*

Moot point. The Israelis won that land from Syria during the Six-Day War. Israel and Syria technically remain in a state of war.

*Hezbollah decided that a similar raid would free more prisoners. In its mind there wasn't much else, if anything, that would free its prisoners. This time it was met with the terms "terrorist group." *

Hezbollah has been a terrorist group even before it killed 240+ US Marines while we were there on a peace keeping mission in 1982.

*Israel, using the United States' help, became the victim of this war.*

You sure are dumb, kid. Israeli citizens were snatched from ISRAELI land. If that doesn't make them victims, I don't know what does.

*With the smell of war in the air people soon forgot that even if the land should belong to Syria, and not Lebanon, it still doesn't belong to Israel. *

It belongs to Israel until they choose to give it back. Just like the Golan.

Idiot.

*Also, nobody questioned why Israel was still holding prisoners in a time when these countries need to be making peace.*

Maybe it's because those in Israeli jails are CRIMINALS.

Keep tokin' up, Cheech. Maybe you'll forget how to type.

56 storagemanager  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:53:56am
Red Cross: We were not allowed to visit kidnapped soldiers


The International Red Cross said that up until now it has not received permission to visit with the Israeli soldiers abducted by Hizbullah 17 days ago. (AFP)

ALERT HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH...THE U.N. CALL CAIR SEE IF THEY GIVE A SHIT...ISLAM IS THE ENEMY. [Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

57 Smit  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:54:10am

#54 GJ - Yes indeedy we do!

Can you believe we're selling Carrick! & we didn't get Duff.

But we'll still finish in the top 4.

/keep the faith.

58 3 wood  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:54:34am
“I have never heard him repent. I have never heard him regret. To him, he joined a liberation movement and he is proud of that,” Ms. Duqmaq said.

To me, that is the key right there. Just wack him and be done with it.

59 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:55:49am

IDF, Hizbullah exchanging fire in Bint Jbail

IDF forces and Hizbullah guerrillas were engaged Friday evening in a heavy exchange of fire in the village of Bint Jbail in southern Lebanon.

A number of Hizbullah operatives were reportedly wounded.

Pray for the IDF.

60 j-damn  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:56:32am
US must abolish secret detention facilities: UN rights panel (AFP)

Quick answer: Make us.

Long answer: I didn't know that the UN had jurisdiction over the US Congress. Huh. Ya learn something new all the time.

THANKS AGENCE FRANCE PRESS!

61 Havoc  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:58:15am

You know this problem of Sami the childkiller could be easily solved by transferring him into either the California or Texas prison general population.

In less than a year or so problem solved, just a statistic.

62 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 7:59:25am

J.D.,

It's just diplomacy.

I hope you're right and that's all that it is -- not that it doesn't infuriate me anyway.

Aggravating, I know.

It's more than just aggravating. It's deadly.

63 Golden Jerusalem  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:01:17am

#57 smit:

Can you believe we're selling Carrick! & we didn't get Duff.

wtf? Selling Carrick? :(

That's news, I thought we rejected ManUre's 15M offer and that was the end of that?

gotta head over to F365...

Duff, well. I think Chelski would always prefer to offload him to a nowhere-destination like Newcastle, rather than to a title contender (US!)

:D

64 Poitiers-Lepanto  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:02:36am

#60 J-Damn

US must abolish secret detention facilities: UN rights panel (AFP)

Of course, only hamas and hizb'allah may have secret detention facilities, where to keep kidnapped Israelis, that makes perfect UNsense.

65 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:03:14am

Displaced refugees

This term applies to people who had to leave their homes in Lebanon - but not Israelis who had to do the same thing.

20 new words and sentences from the dictionary of war clichés

66 storagemanager  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:03:24am
Israeli warplanes and artillery attacks Friday hit Hezbollah positions and crushed houses and roads in southern Lebanon, killing up to 12 people. Hezbollah said it fired a new kind of rocket, which landed deeper inside Israel than hundreds of other strikes in 17 days of fighting. One of those rockets hit a hospital in border town of Nahariya. There was no word of casualties

...When he heard a Hospital was hit...Koffe Annan ran to the phone to find out the damage and denounce Hezbollah...JUST KIDDING...HE HE JUST YAWNED AND SMILED. [Link: www.breitbart.com...]

67 new2thezoo  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:05:53am

They've never met a murderer they didn't admire and emulate.

68 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:05:58am
19:50 Bush: There is suffering in Lebanon because Hezbollah attacked Israel (Haaretz)

19:49 Blair: Want to turn situation of tragedy into one of opportunity (Haaretz)

19:46 Blair: `Nothing will work` unless steps taken to ensure fighting doesn`t resume (Haaretz)

19:45 Blair: 3 steps to end hostilities, including truce package, UN resolution (Haaretz)

19:43 Blair: Mustn`t forget situation began with Hezbollah violating UN resolution (Haaretz)

This is making me awfully uncomfortable. I do not trust Blair.

69 Ariel  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:08:06am

You know why Kuntar killed the father in front of the daughter? So that the last thing her little eyes would see is the horror of her father being killed in front of her.

70 storagemanager  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:09:45am
IAF strike kills senior Hizbullah official

Get them all!

71 Smit  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:10:34am

This whole disproportionate thing makes me sick. I saw an interview where the Israeli guy flung the question back at the reporter "What would be a proportionate response?" & the reporter actually said "Kidnap a couple of their guys". I wish I could remember where I saw that.


Golden Jerusalem - We're accepting £18 millon for Carrick, the git.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Right I'm off home now - I'll catch you guys later.

72 storagemanager  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:10:50am
20:08 Blair: There will be no sidetracking with Iran regarding its nuclear program (Haaretz)
73 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:16:12am

Ariel (#69)

You know why Kuntar killed the father in front of the daughter? So that the last thing her little eyes would see is the horror of her father being killed in front of her.

And it doesn't end there.

It had been a peaceful Sabbath day. My husband, Danny, and I had picnicked with our little girls, Einat, 4, and Yael, 2, on the beach not far from our home in Nahariya, a city on the northern coast of Israel, about six miles south of the Lebanese border. Around midnight, we were asleep in our apartment when four terrorists, sent by Abu Abbas from Lebanon, landed in a rubber boat on the beach two blocks away. Gunfire and exploding grenades awakened us as the terrorists burst into our building. They had already killed a police officer. As they charged up to the floor above ours, I opened the door to our apartment. In the moment before the hall light went off, they turned and saw me. As they moved on, our neighbor from the upper floor came running down the stairs. I grabbed her and pushed her inside our apartment and slammed the door.

Outside, we could hear the men storming about. Desperately, we sought to hide. Danny helped our neighbor climb into a crawl space above our bedroom; I went in behind her with Yael in my arms. Then Danny grabbed Einat and was dashing out the front door to take refuge in an underground shelter when the terrorists came crashing into our flat. They held Danny and Einat while they searched for me and Yael, knowing there were more people in the apartment. I will never forget the joy and the hatred in their voices as they swaggered about hunting for us, firing their guns and throwing grenades. I knew that if Yael cried out, the terrorists would toss a grenade into the crawl space and we would be killed. So I kept my hand over her mouth, hoping she could breathe. As I lay there, I remembered my mother telling me how she had hidden from the Nazis during the Holocaust. “This is just like what happened to my mother,” I thought.

As police began to arrive, the terrorists took Danny and Einat down to the beach. There, according to eyewitnesses, one of them shot Danny in front of Einat so that his death would be the last sight she would ever see. Then he smashed my little girl’s skull in against a rock with his rifle butt. That terrorist was Samir Kuntar.

By the time we were rescued from the crawl space, hours later, Yael, too, was dead. In trying to save all our lives, I had smothered her.

And nobody gives a fuck. They will fight to get this sick psychopath released.

74 Muck DeFuslims  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:22:11am

Watching Bush trying to explain away Islamic terror as being an effort to 'stop democracy' is getting really really old.

Watching Blair pull the old 'Islam has been hijacked' bullshiite is pathetic.

If you can't identify the enemy how are you going to defeat it ?

75 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:22:18am
Blair will seek to "increase the urgency" of diplomacy to end the violence between Israel and Hezbollah when he meets Bush in Washington Friday, his spokesman told reporters, speaking on customary condition of anonymity. Blair arrived Friday and was meeting with Bush at the White House.

Why would Blair do this, does he really believe that Hezbollah are to be reasoned with, that they care one iota for his stupid "diplomacy"? I hope Bush holds steady.

Blair is under growing pressure at home for Britain to distance itself from its longtime ally and call for an immediate end to violence.

An open letter published Friday in Britain's "The Independent" newspaper and signed by former British Cabinet ministers and ambassadors urged Blair to help broker a swift cease-fire. It warned that any continuing support for Israel's military action could become as unpopular with the public as the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

The letter was also signed by musicians Damon Albarn, Peter Gabriel and Brian Eno and writers Harold Pinter, Will Self and Gillian Slovo.

76 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:23:33am
Blair: Peace proposals can work only if Hezbollah al-Qaeda allows them to work (Haaretz)
77 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:30:00am

Why is Rice coming back here? I'm really getting nervous.

78 Merovign  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:33:26am

I hate to tell ya, but if your hero is someone who bashed in the head of a four-year-old girl after murdering her captive father in front of her, you are a bad person.

Bad. Defective. Evil. Worthless.

Then again, I suppose that applies to Che-worshippers as well. And people with Mao tattoos.

I'm feelin' a little surrounded here...

79 Muck DeFuslims  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:34:47am

Let's assume the 'international community' agrees to try to implement 1559...they even place a peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon.

What do you think is going to happen when Hizbull refuses to disarm and lobs an occassional missile into Israel ?

Only thing the peacekeeping force will prevent is an Israeli retaliation.

In addition to demanding the return of Sheeba Farms, the Golan Heights, a 'Palestinian' state, divided Jerusalem, and of course 'right of return'.

Get the picture ?

80 dgd  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:36:55am

Cold-blooded, remorseless child killer, you say. No wonder he's a hero to these scumbags. He did exactly what they would all do if they had the opportunity. That is kill Jews.

Need some applied math here, something like steamroller goes over shithead once with very little remainder.

81 galloping granny  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:46:07am

Indeed, why do prisoners like Kuntar continue to be held?

They should have been hanged years ago.

Because executing psychopathic killers that have no hope of redemption in either this life or the next is "cruel and unusual" punishment according to the loonies.

Have you heard them crying for the little 16 year old that was hung a few days ago in Iran - ? Thought not. What kind of a society allows a "judge" to hang a child with his own two hands because she made him mad, while simultaneously calling scum-of-the-earth like this a "hero."

Lord of the Flies.

82 Ariel  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:46:33am

zulubaby #73 - Yeah, I had read that previously as well. I can't believe that reporters can put his supposed good looks into their articles instead of talking about how he's a sadistic murderer. As to the Blair push for a ceasefire, what he means is that Israel ceases while Hez'B'Allah fires. Everyone knows this, which is why Israel (and hopefully the US) won't accept it.

83 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:46:58am

If this animal had done this in the US, he would have been given the needle long ago.

84 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:51:53am

Ariel, this "reporter" will cry when he's finally offed, the same way Barbara Plett from the BBC wept real tears when Arafat was flown to Fwance. There are a lot of truly sick people out there. Some murder, and some stand back and admire their "work". You wouldn't believe how many women are in love with serial killers.

As for Blair, I have nothing but contempt for him. He's a weak excuse for a man and a leader. I hope Bush tells him his fortune. I'm worried though. I think that Blair manipulates Bush because of the fact that he put British troops in Iraq.

85 Ariel  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:57:59am

zulubaby #84,

I think you're right about Bush-Blair. Can you imagine how it would be spun in the US if our good "allies" the UK decided to withdraw their troops from Iraq? He knows he has Bush where he wants him pretty much. The problem is that as Blair gets pressure, he can pass that pressure on. I too am worried about Condi going back to the Middle East. Doesn't she have better things to do? If I were Bush, I would send her over to deal with North Korea or something, just to indicate to the rest of the world that the Middle East will not be solved by US pressure.

86 Gang of One  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 9:00:45am
#13 Mike C. 7/28/2006 09:23AM PDT
I don't hold with this "kill 'em all" crap. But this one they could simply shoot, cremate, and have done with it. Pardon me, but sometimes Israel shows too much of it's European ancestry.



That's BS. If they did show their 'ancestry' they'd have annhilated every Christian and Muslim that pissed them off.

C'mon Mike, I thought I knew you better.

87 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 9:02:20am
In a joint press conference on Friday, Bush told reporters that it was necessary to do what was "right, and not just what was innately popular."

Please G-d Bush holds tight.

Ariel,

If I were Bush, I would send her over to deal with North Korea or something, just to indicate to the rest of the world that the Middle East will not be solved by US pressure.

That would be brilliant, a real poke in the eye to the world. The obsession with the Jews is getting more repulsive by the day. Look at the headlines -- around the world, people are getting slaughtered by the thousands. Nobody even notices.

88 amir  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 9:06:14am

Samir Kuntar has his own website
http://www.samirkuntar.org/english.html
about half way down there is a picture of him with mass murderer terrorist Maroun Barghouti.
They both look rather well fed. What kind of conditions are these monsters held in? How did this photo get taken?
Something is very wrong here (unless it's a photoshop).
These guys should be in solitary confinement (if not in a grave).

89 zulubaby  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 9:11:26am
a lawyer and founder of the Mandela Institute in Ramallah, an advocacy group for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli institutions

As in, Nelson Mandela? I did not know this.

90 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 9:21:31am

#41 P.L

Are you still here. I just saw your note. What I meant was-that your comment is so important, and every day we have to say to ourselves 'am I doing enough', or 'am I doing anything'.

I hope you understood what I was getting at. I was not uncomfortable at all, I am in agreement with you-I also don't want to say at the end of the day 'why didn't I do...'. So, even small victories-like all of the world seeing this article that Charles posted, makes me feel like I am doing something (in addition to making Jewish babies).

Another small victory for the forces of good, via Charles and the wonderful lizards. At least that's the way I see it.

91 code red 21  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 9:50:26am

Kuntar is the reaon I believe in capital punishment.
We would not be having this conversation if they had killed his sorry ass when they caught him, it would be Kuntar who?

92 galloping granny  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 10:18:43am

If this animal had done this in the US, he would have been given the needle long ago.

Probably not. As I recall 79 was one of the years that almost no one had the death penalty in the US. Even now it takes as long as 20 years to actually get around to carrying out a death sentence.

Don't be misled by the fate of Timothy McVeigh of OK City bombing "fame" back in 95. That one was rammed through the system on jet powered roller blades.

93 tigger2005  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 10:19:28am

It's all so incredibly frustrating. I want to take action, DO something, even if it kills me, but I want to know that my small action is part of a larger action that is having a noticeable effect.

This requires leaders who are able to move and motivate and persuade populations to look beyond their personal lives and see themselves as part of something larger and worth fighting for. Instead we are told to just go about our daily lives and keep shopping.

All the LLL's and wackademics keep bitching about how the right wants to pack them into concentration camps. I never did before, but I really want to now. That's what you do with the enemy, if you don't kill him outright. These people are not "fellow Americans." They are not the "loyal opposition." They are traitors, pure and simple, and we would be well within our rights to remove them from all positions of influence and place them where they can't do any more damage.

94 minuteman  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 10:36:31am

Feed kuntar to wild pigs in front of al jazeera cameras. Collect the subsequent pig shit and spray it on the next crowd of hezzie demonstrators.

95 slotgun  Fri, Jul 28, 2006 8:51:03pm

Reading some of the supporting information posted by the lizardoid community on this thread only reinforces my belief that we are screaming up on the End Times in a red Corvette, with the top down and Metallica cranked up to "11" on the volume. (With apologies to Rob Reiner.)

The world has become a truly Orwellian mad nightmare when this terrorist a$$clown commands the respect he's being accorded by the loons. That insanity will boil over at some point. When it does, a lot of us are going to get hurt. The ocean separating us from the Islamonazis will be no bulwark.

I feel like I'm caught in the last scene of "The Terminator":

"What did he say?"

"He said 'There's a storm coming.' "

"I know."

96 insomniac  Sat, Jul 29, 2006 6:35:46am

I hope Israel doesn't release him like they released Kozo Okamoto.

Kozo Okamoto was one of three Japanese Red Army (JRA) members who carried out the massacre at Israel's Lod airport in 1972 on behalf of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. They killed 26 people and injured 78 others. Many of the casualties were American citizens, mostly nuns (1) from Puerto Rico who were on a religious pilgrimage.

Kozo Okamoto, was captured and sentenced to life imprisonment. He was later freed in 1985 when Israel released 1150 prisoners in exchange for three Israeli soldiers held by Ahmed Jibril's PFLP-GC. He arrived to a hero's welcome in Libya on May 20, and was met by JRA leader Fusako Shigenobu. Kozo Okamoto converted to Islam in Lebanon. In 2000 the Lebanese Government granted political asylum to Kozo Okamoto, citing services rendered to the Arab cause and his physical incapacity. Okamoto is the first person to ever be granted political asylum in Lebanon's history. The Lebanese government refused to grant asylum to four other JRA members and deported them to Japan although all five are widely regarded as heroes in Lebanon for championing the Palestinian cause and opposing Israel. The decision to deport the JRA terrorists was hugely unpopular in Lebanon with the press condemning it "cowardly"... "shameful"... "betrayal"... "crime"

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(1) 'Israel's Secret War' Ian Black / Benny Morris, p269


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