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Nasrallah Calls on Arab Leaders to Promote Ceasefire

Sat, Aug 5, 2006 at 8:56:26 am PDT

After weeks of telling other Arab leaders they should “get off his back,” Hizballah kingpin Hassan Nasrallah has changed his tune. On an August 3rd Al-Manar broadcast, he practically begged them to help promote a ceasefire: Hizbullah Secretary-General Nasrallah Calls on Arab Leaders to Promote Ceasefire in Meetings With US.

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1 Obi-wan  8/05/06 6:57:06 am reply quote 0

Because they're loooooooosing!

2 David2  8/05/06 6:57:27 am reply quote 0

Hopefully, he will be spending a lot of times on his knees.

Another CIA plant.

3 JammieWearingFool  8/05/06 6:57:50 am reply quote 0

Running scared. He's probably getting nervous about that laser beam following him around.

4 Obi-wan  8/05/06 6:58:06 am reply quote 0

Can you say "hudnah?"

5 gregusmeus  8/05/06 6:58:08 am reply quote 0

First good news all day

6 tigger2005  8/05/06 6:58:19 am reply quote 0

No hudnas. No way. No how. Go Israel!

OT: I've done a couple Hizballah business cards, how do I send them to Charles?

7 mkultra  8/05/06 6:59:46 am reply quote 0

Yes the whole world lusts for a cease fire. As long as the Jews are kicking Arab ass. If the war was going the other way there would be no hue and cry from France and Russia and King Abdulla. That bitch.

8 Just_A_Grunt  8/05/06 7:00:02 am reply quote 0

I hope some of the arm chair generals are right in that the IDF is trying to insert enough forces behind the main front line of Hezbollah and then begin a sweep back towards Israel. That is the only way Israel should withdraw from Lebanon, taking out all of the garbage on the way.

9 The Other Les  8/05/06 7:01:13 am reply quote 0

Oh, the poor baby...

10 Broomer  8/05/06 7:01:27 am reply quote 0

NOW it's time for Israel to TOTALLY kick their ass. No ceasefire, no hesistation, go ALL THE WAY BECAUSE ISRAEL IS WINNING!

JG

11 Wisenheimer  8/05/06 7:01:36 am reply quote 0

"They're hurting me!
They're hurting me!"

12 BabbaZee  8/05/06 7:01:42 am reply quote 0

He's getting his ass kicked.

Soon he will sleep with the arafishes.

Yalla Ya Narallah!
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

13 Blackacre  8/05/06 7:01:49 am reply quote 0

He wouldn't be calling for a hudna if has was pressing the offensive rather than getting a can of IDF/IAF whoop-ass unleashed on him.

14 mkultra  8/05/06 7:03:44 am reply quote 0

#8 Just_A_Grunt screw the Arm chair generals what about the Armchair Insurgents

15 gitarfan  8/05/06 7:03:54 am reply quote 0

Yes a cease-fire, just long enough to turn him into hamburger when he comes out of hiding and then on with offensive!

16 WarBicycle  8/05/06 7:04:52 am reply quote 0

Hesbollah's leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah and Hadhi Army leader Moqtada Sadr are cousins.

17 Orbit Rain  8/05/06 7:05:12 am reply quote 0

call me unsympathetic
call me what you will

fuck'm

I'd say shooting rockets into civilian territory gets you a death sentence.

18 Just_A_Grunt  8/05/06 7:05:21 am reply quote 0

Amazing this call comes at the same time that an announcement is made that the US and France have a "draft" propasal for a end to hostilities. Methinks this is more related to his supply lines being severed by the bombing of the bridges linking Lebanon to Syria and the raid carried out by the IDF special forces.
I hope Bolton is just teasing the French.

19 Broomer  8/05/06 7:06:21 am reply quote 0

Saw this from a deaf blog but am linking directly to Yahoo:

Guess where?

Guess who’s paying for it?

Supposed there was no Iraqi liberation? Then what would her life be?

I dare those that are opposed to Iraqi liberation tell her to her face that she would’ve rely on Saddam Hussein and Iraq’s antiquated health care to help her hear.


Deaf Iraqi girl to receive Cochlear Implant

JG

20 quark2  8/05/06 7:06:24 am reply quote 0

Somebody dust this guy with some smart dust.
That'll link him up right good. :0
/jdam -> nasrallah

21 Just_A_Grunt  8/05/06 7:06:48 am reply quote 0

#16 Warbicycle

Hesbollah's leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah and Hadhi Army leader Moqtada Sadr are cousins.


Is this true or just exageration?

22 DistantThunder  8/05/06 7:07:35 am reply quote 0

Cease fire...we'll have to get back to you on that...but we're taking it underadvisement.

23 Abu Maven  8/05/06 7:11:20 am reply quote 0

Just a Grunt,

Yeah, I don't know why we are not discussing the US-French resolution? I am baffled by it. Why would Israel agree to a ceasefire unless it were guaranteed the return of its soldiers, Hezbollah disarmed, etc?

Is this just posturing by the US/Fr to say, "Hey, we gave Hezbollah a shot, they refused to accept the conditions, now go get 'em"? I wish, but my guess is no.

24 quark2  8/05/06 7:11:43 am reply quote 0

Hiding? Hell the sob is doing all his bravado
from Damascus! Instead of flattening Beirut,
the Israelis should go right for Syria and
the chinless one, making Damascus into a parking lot.

25 Boot Hill  8/05/06 7:14:14 am reply quote 0

sounds like someone want to have their cake and eat it too.

the hez have known all along what would stop this but chose this path anyway.

I believe Israel should cease fire when there is no hez left.

26 galloping granny  8/05/06 7:14:19 am reply quote 0

No truce until Nasrallah surrenders himself to be tried for war crimes!

27 Obi-wan  8/05/06 7:15:11 am reply quote 0

#23 Abu Maven

Wrong! All failures will be blamed on Israel.

As usual.

28 Poitiers-Lepanto  8/05/06 7:15:56 am reply quote 0

muslim when you don't defend yourself:

Die infidel dog !

muslim when you defend yourself:

Peace !

/same as any crap I have met in the streets...

29 Abu Maven  8/05/06 7:16:24 am reply quote 0

Obi-wan,

No way. Bolton would never sell out Israel like that. That's why this is so interesting.

30 jjag  8/05/06 7:16:46 am reply quote 0

Hassan Nasrallah: "I want to say to our Lebanese people, the peoples of our nation, and the world, and to be very clear: What has happened since the first day of this war, and is still happening, even today - the killing, massacres, destruction, brutality, and barbarism - the ones responsible for all this are, first and foremost, Bush and his American administration. In our opinion, [Israeli Prime Minister Ehud] Olmert and his government are no more than tools in this war.


Sounds just like a liberal/Democrat, no?

Its Bush's fault! Its Bush's fault!
He made us fire rockets indiscriminately ....for years....

31 grayp  8/05/06 7:17:48 am reply quote 0

#21 JaG

#16 Warbicycle


Hesbollah's leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah and Hadhi Army leader Moqtada Sadr are cousins.

Is this true or just exageration?

I don't know about that, but Nasrallah studied with al-Sadr's father in Iraq.

The editor in chief of Kuwait's Arab Times thinks Nasrallah is an idiot.

HASSAN Nasrallah is in a quagmire. If, according to his own statements, Nasrallah knew Israel would attack Lebanon between September and November, if he was aware the Zionist enemy was ready for war and if he had received this information, which even the Pentagon and CIA could not receive, why did he give Israel an opportunity to launch the war before time by kidnapping two of its soldiers? Nasrallah has called for the beginning of a second phase of this war.

Nasrallah, who is being remote-controlled by Iran and Syria, believes he is in the mold of many Arab leaders. But the fact is he is playing with fire.

32 pat  8/05/06 7:17:58 am reply quote 0

On another front, Cuba prepares for an invasion. Apparently in celebration of Casto's stable condition. Cubans have now gone 10 days without a 3 hour serenade by El Presedente on the wonders of Cuba.

33 Abu Maven  8/05/06 7:18:06 am reply quote 0

... The brutal Zionists forced us to invade and take Israeli soldiers prisoner.

/Nas-meister

34 Obi-wan  8/05/06 7:19:01 am reply quote 0

#29 Abu Maven

I know Bolton will never sell out.

I'm talking about the Fwench and the rest of the cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

35 CommonSense  8/05/06 7:19:49 am reply quote 0

Must be time to re-arm his posse of Arabs

36 Abu Maven  8/05/06 7:20:01 am reply quote 0

Obi-wan,

But it is a *joint* US-French agreement. As I said, very interesting...

37 tunnelrat  8/05/06 7:24:43 am reply quote 0

I seem to remember a certain democrat who claimed that "if I had been elected, this war would not have happened".
Right.
That man takes himself much too seriously.

38 Poitiers-Lepanto  8/05/06 7:24:58 am reply quote 0

#30 JJag

Nazirallah:"... the ones responsible for all this are, first and foremost, Bush and his American administration."

Yes, in these weeks I've been very proud I voted for Bush.

Nazirallh anyway has a BDS. He should look for help.

Counseling at least.

39 Obi-wan  8/05/06 7:25:00 am reply quote 0

#36 Abu Maven

Very true. Trust the Fwench to have ulterior motives and look for them to undercut the US position at the first opportunity.

I think they're playing to their arab population, trying not to have their throats slit in the middle of the night.

40 gymnast  8/05/06 7:26:19 am reply quote 0

The only way for an Arab Army to deal with the realities of the logistics needed to sustain operations is through a cease fire allowing them to rearm. Right now Hizballah has been virtually reduced to a pack of scavenging foragers. In a few days they will be reduced to a pack of shit eating dogs.

41 Noam Sayin'  8/05/06 7:27:33 am reply quote 0

IMO, Israel can cease firing when they have eliminated the threats arrayed against them.

42 M. Bensson-Levi  8/05/06 7:29:08 am reply quote 0

#40 gymnast

In a few days they will be reduced to a pack of shit eating dogs.

What? They didn't start out that way?

43 RepJ  8/05/06 7:29:10 am reply quote 0

They must need to regroup and reload.

44 Middle-Earth  8/05/06 7:29:48 am reply quote 0

Ohh, he's really desperate.

Go, and prove your love to Lebanon over there. [US and Europa - ME] Raise your voice over there. Be real men, if only for a single day, over there, in order to save your thrones, and to save whatever is left of your honor.

And firing mortars into Syria

Earlier, six mortar shells were fired from Lebanon towards the Golan Heights. The shells cleared their target and landed in Syrian territory.

The IDF assessed that the launch - the second that landed in Syria in the past 24 hours - was meant to encourage Damascus to join the fight against Israel

He knows he's dead.

45 Greg  8/05/06 7:32:47 am reply quote 0

Hudna...very good....gives the IDF a little more time to hunt down Nasrallah and put a bullet in his ear...

Fox radio news is hourly here pissin' on themselves like a cease fire would be good news...just time for Hez-Ebola to be re-armed by Iran and Syria.

46 Hucbald  8/05/06 7:33:34 am reply quote 0

"Hizbulla Secretary-General..."

Interesting that he chose for himself the same title that the UN head honcho uses. And telling.

47 M. Bensson-Levi  8/05/06 7:34:58 am reply quote 0

#43 RepJ

They must need to regroup and reload.

Let's not forget recruit!

Just occurred to me...I wonder what their losses are due to desertions? Just a thought.

48 Obi-wan  8/05/06 7:35:37 am reply quote 0

#46 Hucbald

He can sit in an oven, but that don't make him a biscuit.

49 Ward Cleaver  8/05/06 7:35:55 am reply quote 0

Keep going, IDF! NO cease-fire!

51 Ward Cleaver  8/05/06 7:36:43 am reply quote 0

#3 Jammie

Is that frickin' laser beam mounted on a shark's head?

52 zuckerlilly  8/05/06 7:36:44 am reply quote 0

An official with knowledge of the document said the draft calls for a "full cessation of violence" between Israel and Hezbollah, but would allow Israel the right to launch strikes if Hezbollah attacks it.

"It does not say immediate cessation of violence," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the draft had not yet been made public.

That appeared to be a major victory for the U.S. and Israel. France and many other nations had demanded an immediate and halt to violence without conditions as a way to push the region back toward stability.

The French presidential palace in Paris said a deal was reached on a resolution that seeks a total halt to hostilities and would work toward a permanent cease-fire and a long-term solution.

The full 15-nation Security Council was expected to meet later Saturday to discuss the resolution, and it was likely to be adopted in the next couple of days, Bolton said.

(Source: NYT)

53 Nahanni  8/05/06 7:40:07 am reply quote 0

I guess he must be running out of rockets and the bus loads of jihadis coming from Iran can't get there because all the bridges are down.

54 Hucbald  8/05/06 7:42:34 am reply quote 0

#48 Obi

But they're both half-baked? ;^)

55 Midwest  8/05/06 7:43:14 am reply quote 0

The only long term solution that will end in peace is the elimination of the terrorists and their supporters.

56 right wing zephyr  8/05/06 7:44:13 am reply quote 0

If Israel defies or ignores this BS French-US agreement, what then?

I guess the international community's answer to islamofascist terror is documents of cease-fire.

Let's just hope they're that innocuous when the caliphate asks them to answer the Jewish problem again.

57 RadicalRon  8/05/06 7:47:25 am reply quote 0

Nazirallah must have found out that the 72 virgins are all clones of Helen Thomas, Hillary Ilyich and Barney Frank.

Or, that the Joooooos plan on sending him straight to Hell - covered with pig fat.

58 Amalie  8/05/06 7:48:03 am reply quote 0

Yalla Ya Nas'rallah

59 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  8/05/06 7:48:31 am reply quote 0

I agree with those who said the potentail UN cease-fire call is interesting.

Bolton knows the Hezbos can't stop firing for long. So, any cease-fire will be broken shortly, by the Hezbolosers allowing Israel to resume full-operations to defend herself.

Minor PR victory (hey, we stopped... they started it again!), giving Israel more cover to really get the job done in time.

60 Amalie  8/05/06 7:50:04 am reply quote 0

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Check out Cartoon Number 7..

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/Hat Tip RTLM

61 HBob  8/05/06 7:52:47 am reply quote 0

This is one of those times where UN foot dragging is a good thing.
This situation requires more and more talking - and IDF strikes - me thinks.

62 WarBicycle  8/05/06 7:53:14 am reply quote 0

#21 Just a Grunt

Apparently it's true; I read a few days ago they are distant cousins. Iran is controlling both of them.

63 Amalie  8/05/06 7:54:31 am reply quote 0

To all our Israeli posters and lurkers...

Dear Israelis

You are in my thoughts and prayers, that God hold you close and protect you, my brave Israeli friends.

Amalie

64 jester6  8/05/06 7:55:10 am reply quote 0

BushCo is playing chess with Russia, Germany, Italy, France and Spain on this issue. That is why Bolton is working on a resolution with the French. We are about to suck them into this war for real.

Whether Israel stops today or in two weeks will not matter in six months if it results in Germany, Italy, France, Russia and Spain with troops standing toe to toe with Hezbollah. The strategic goal is to get these other countries actively involved. If this really is analog to 1938 we need to do everything we can to get our team into the thick of the fight now.

Best case, these countries come under attack by the Islamists and they start to fight back. Worst case these countries come under attack by the Islamists, they retreat, but sympathy towards the Islamists is seriously eroded in the European populace. In either case the Europeans are about to join the team.

This is about much more than a few hundred rockets and two kidnapped soldiers.

65 moonsbreath  8/05/06 7:55:31 am reply quote 0

No cease-fire.

66 little boomer  8/05/06 7:56:39 am reply quote 0

I think

Cease fire-no
Unconditional Surrender-yes

67 Amalie  8/05/06 7:57:27 am reply quote 0

64 jester6

I never looked at it that way. That's very true.

68 descolada9  8/05/06 7:57:55 am reply quote 0

Ceasefire when Nasrallah is dead. Not a moment sooner.

69 Kirly  8/05/06 7:58:18 am reply quote 0

Amalie,

Not sure which one is #7.

Kirly

70 Nordish12  8/05/06 7:59:27 am reply quote 0

British Hizballah supporters stamp / spit on Bush placard.

This, and more, will be released in a brand new Moonbat Media report within an hour or so.

71 Amalie  8/05/06 7:59:36 am reply quote 0

I thought Nas'rallah was Iran's boy. Why would he be reaching out to the Saudis. Iran is trying to supercede the Saudis in Middle East domination..

72 Shane  8/05/06 7:59:58 am reply quote 0

It goes without saying he didn't mention the Israeli's dying because of his rockets.

73 Amalie  8/05/06 8:00:25 am reply quote 0

Kirly

The bloated UN blimp...

74 Orson Buggy  8/05/06 8:00:28 am reply quote 0
75 Roger  8/05/06 8:00:50 am reply quote 0

#68 descolada9

Yes, a fire that ceases Nasr'allah.

76 Kirly  8/05/06 8:02:20 am reply quote 0

Thanks Amalie! That's good. I also like the Proptional response one.

77 Midwest  8/05/06 8:03:30 am reply quote 0

#56 right wing zephyr

Israel should take any suggestion of a ceasefire under advisement and study it until 31 Aug.

78 Kirly  8/05/06 8:07:03 am reply quote 0

Orson Buggy,

I've been saying for years that we're just going to suck them dry and then abandon them to kill each other.

Everybody, make your vacation this year a road trip! Use as much gas as you can. The sooner we suck them dry, the sooner they descend back into the 7th century!

Think of it as doing your part to hasten their demise.

Oh, and my charitable contribution this year will go to one of the many troop supporting charities. All of it. Unless I can legally write off a contribution to the IDF, in which case i'll split it.

79 Amalie  8/05/06 8:07:16 am reply quote 0

Wait a second, I have a different take on what Nas'rallah is up to.

From the link:


Hassan Nasrallah: "I want to say to our Lebanese people, the peoples of our nation, and the world, and to be very clear: What has happened since the first day of this war, and is still happening, even today - the killing, massacres, destruction, brutality, and barbarism - the ones responsible for all this are, first and foremost, Bush and his American administration. In our opinion, [Israeli Prime Minister Ehud] Olmert and his government are no more than tools in this war.

This is part of a bigger puzzle. The Islamists are pointing the finger of blame at the US with Israel as their puppet.

The big rally coming up in DC sponsored by the commie group, Answer, has a website proclaiming the US as "occupiers" of not only Iraq but also Lebanon and Palestine.

Nas'rallah is playing the sympathy card to rile up more Muslim outrage against the US

80 Abu Maven  8/05/06 8:08:23 am reply quote 0

64 jester,

Interesting take, but I thought it was contemplated that the troops would be Eygptian and Turkish. Sadly, I don't think Europe joins the jihad until they get bombed a couple more times.

81 Amalie  8/05/06 8:08:35 am reply quote 0

76 Kirly

Your welcome. I liked the Castro Cuban Cigar and Mel Gibson one.. actually I liked them all.

Ramirez is good...

Am

82 Hucbald  8/05/06 8:10:25 am reply quote 0

I count two Israeli Commando Raids deep behind enemy lines - that we know about - that resulted in the capture of "high-ranking Hizbullah leaders" and a treasure trove of actionable intel in the form of documents.

Hizbullah wants needs a little quality hudna time or else it will be completely destroyed...

Which is why we can not give them any quarter.

83 Abu Maven  8/05/06 8:12:27 am reply quote 0

82 Hucbald,

The Israelis captured "tasty fishes" in one of the raids. I enjoyed that line by Olmert.

A reporter asked Olmert if they got a "big fish" during the raid, and he replied, "they are tasty fishes."

84 big L  8/05/06 8:13:54 am reply quote 0

Hmmm, now nasrallah is Secretary General?
He wan't called that before.
Pehaps not only will he get a seat at the UN, but maybe he will replace Koffi anan as Secretary -General of the UN.

Looks like the press-POSes are trying to elevate Nasralla as a potentate...

85 Spiny Norman  8/05/06 8:14:59 am reply quote 0

OT:

John Bolton, in an amazing Neville Chamberlaine impersonation, agrees to let Hizballah have the Sheba Farms Sudetenland and allow the UN to "monitor" the peace.

That's just fuckin' great.

U.S., France OK U.N. Mideast truce pact

Other principles spelled out in the resolution include the disarmament of Hezbollah; the creation of a buffer zone from the U.N.-demarcated border between Israel and Lebanon north to the Litani River; and the delineation of Lebanon's borders, especially in the disputed Chebaa Farms area.

The resolution would call for the current U.N. force in Lebanon, known by its acronym UNIFIL, to monitor the cessation in fighting. Once Israel and Lebanon have agreed to the series of principles, the Security Council would then authorize a new peacekeeping force for the region.

Hand over the Sheba Farms and you can return to the original status quo. How could Israel turn that down?

86 Daisy  8/05/06 8:16:04 am reply quote 0

# 7 mkultra

"Yes the whole world lusts for a cease fire. As long as the Jews are kicking Arab ass. "

Righty-O

87 markmc  8/05/06 8:16:33 am reply quote 0

What in hell is the US "negotiating" with the Hezbollah terrorists for? Tlee Nasrallah we''l catch his wake. Let Israel curb stomp the shitheads.

88 WarBicycle  8/05/06 8:17:52 am reply quote 0

Just_a_Grunt

[Link: www.benadorassociates.com...]

Source regarding Hasarally and Sadr related.

89 One_Shot_One_Kill  8/05/06 8:18:01 am reply quote 0
In a few days they will be reduced to a pack of shit eating dogs.

Hezbollic Coprophagia?

"Abdul, I like how you use the corn for texture."

/Cheech (or was it Chong?)

90 Midwest  8/05/06 8:18:45 am reply quote 0

#85 Spiny Norman

The devil is in the details and the timing of each action. If Hizbollocks has to be disarmed before the talk commences over Sheeba Farms the resoltion would be dead on arrival.

91 Spiny Norman  8/05/06 8:20:54 am reply quote 0

#90 Midwest

The devil is in the details and the timing of each action. If Hizbollocks has to be disarmed before the talk commences over Sheeba Farms the resoltion would be dead on arrival.

By the UN standards, the Lebanese government has already done that.

92 NoSubmission  8/05/06 8:24:29 am reply quote 0

#50 Pastorius

Must be Gaarder's 'twinkling brown-eyed world of awe':


"Every day every day every day ev-er-y day I feel amazed by the existence of life.

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93 tigger2005  8/05/06 8:25:52 am reply quote 0

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Cry to those using babies
By Naomi Ragen

My son is in the army. He is not the type at all, believe me. Quiet, studious, a writer, a lover of Jewish history, Talmud, ethics. He spent two years in a pre-army program in the Galilee called Karmei Hayil. He made many good friends there from all over the country, and now he and all his friends are in the army.

One of them I know well. A bit chubby, with payot (sidelocks) and a great laugh. He and my son have become like brothers. While both of them tried out for the elite paratroopers unit, only his friend made it in. He and his unit are the ones in Lebanon. They were there over a week, fighting under horrific conditions, running out of food and water. Even though the Israel Air Force dropped tons of leaflets warning civilians to flee because they were in terrorist territory and likely to be injured, they still encountered civilians.

My son spoke to his friend yesterday, and this is how he described it: "The village looked empty, and then we heard noises coming from one of the houses, so we opened fire. But when we went inside, we found two women and a child huddled in the corner of the room. We were so relieved we hadn't hurt them. We took up base in one of the empty houses. And then all of a sudden, we came under intense fire. Three rockets were fired at the house we were in. Only one managed to destroy a wall, which fell on one of us, covering him in white dust, but otherwise not hurting him.

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"I spent the whole time feeding bullets to my friend who was shooting nonstop. We managed to kill 26 terrorists. Not one of us was hurt. Our commanding officer kept walking around, touching everybody on the shoulder, smiling and encouraging us: 'We're are better than they are. Don't worry.' It calmed us all down. And really, we were much better than them. They are a lousy army. They only win when they hide behind baby carriages."

Please remember this when you hear about the "atrocity" of the Israeli bomb that killed many civilians in Kafr Qana, a place from which Hezbollah has fired hundreds of rockets at Israel. Unlike previous administrations, Mr. Olmert has my respect when he says: "They were warned to leave. It is the responsibility of Hezbollah for firing rockets amid civilians."

... read it all.

94 NoSubmission  8/05/06 8:30:56 am reply quote 0

Senior Saudi sheikh: Hizbullah – party of Satan

Sheikh Safar al-Hawali, in past teacher of Bin Laden, issues fatwa forbidding support of any kind of Hizbullah organization, which is not 'Party of God,' but 'Party of Satan'
Associated Press

A senior Saudi religious figure, Sheikh Safar al-Hawali, published a fatwa establishing that "Hizbullah is not the 'Party of God' (the meaning of Hizbullah in Arabic), but the 'Party of Satan.'"

Al-Hawali is considered an extreme religious figure in Saudi Arabia. In the past Osama Bin Laden was among his students.


In the fatwa published on al-Hawali's website, it was written that it is forbidden to pray for Hizbullah, or to support the organization in any way. Al-Hawali's position, from the Wahhabi stream in Saudi Arabia, exemplifies the prevailing historic rift between Sunnis and Shiites , who, in the eyes of the Wahhabists are apostates.

The Wahhabists seek to cleanse Islam from innovations and deviations, which, according to them, violate Islam at its core, such as worshipping holy men and their graves, or decoration of mosques. The controversy between Sunnis and Shiites is not absolute. For example, the Sunni Muslim Brothers in Egypt have declared their support of Hizbullah.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

95 barnaclebill  8/05/06 8:33:21 am reply quote 0

Now I'm really confused. I thought that the US was just a puppet of the Zionist Regime. Get your story straight.

96 _remembertonyc  8/05/06 8:35:19 am reply quote 0

just saw mark ginsburg on fox and he said that even if this french/US resolution moves things forward, there could be 10 more days of fighting before anything on the ground really changes.

is it possible that is all israel asked the US for?

OT ... if anyone wants to hear some great discussion of these issues while you are on line, go to [Link: www.mikesradioworld.com,...] click on news/talk stations and click on wabc radio ... Monica Crowley is on and she is brilliant.

97 solomonpanting  8/05/06 8:40:22 am reply quote 0

"O, my Brothers of Islam
Our initial incursion was a scam
From the couse of action we wish to choose
Was not expected from the Jews
A real cease-fire is what we need
As all we do is die and bleed
It's readily apparent what we must do
For we bit off more than we can chew"

98 Occasional Reader  8/05/06 8:42:03 am reply quote 0

Charles, this might be the perfect thread to illustrate again with that photo of Nasrallah nervously mopping his brow. Seeing as he´s apparently feeling a bit, ah, nervous lately. Heh.

99 Pro-Bush Canuck  8/05/06 8:43:31 am reply quote 0

OT:

From "The Best Page in the Universe":

There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons

100 saywhat?  8/05/06 8:45:03 am reply quote 0
Hizbullah Secretary-General Nasrallah Calls on Arab Leaders to Promote Ceasefire in Meetings With US.

Uh, Nasrallah . . .after you. . .you stop shelling first. Until then ya better duck . . .bombs away IAF!

God bless the IAF, IDF and the Israeli people.

101 mattm  8/05/06 8:45:10 am reply quote 0

I guess he just realized that they are loosing.

102 goodbye_natalie  8/05/06 8:47:07 am reply quote 0

#95 barnaclebill,

Now I'm really confused. I thought that the US was just a puppet of the Zionist Regime. Get your story straight.

You beat me to it. I thought Joooos controlled the world and Neocon Joooos controlled the Bush Administration? I tell you, that George W. never ceases to amaze me. Always operating in the shadows.

And I got to tell my Jewish brothers and sisters, this right-wing infidel of the Book and Okie from Muskogee rednek has really enjoyed being a Zionist these last two years. Feel like you guys and gals have been a real blessing to my life.

Shalom! But not for your enemies. Turn the screws a little tighter and maybe will see the gophers start poking their heads out of the hole. I got my shovel ready to cave some draped skulls!

103 Spiny Norman  8/05/06 8:47:16 am reply quote 0

#96 _remembertonyc

just saw mark ginsburg on fox and he said that even if this french/US resolution moves things forward, there could be 10 more days of fighting before anything on the ground really changes.

is it possible that is all israel asked the US for?

Maybe so. Maybe, also, the Bush Administration is try to make the Democrat Senators opposed to Bolton's confirmation, on the grounds that he is not "diplomatic", look like idiots (not much of a stretch) when he works out an agreement with the freakin' French, of all people.

It still looks too much like Munich, though.

104 Da_Beerfreak  8/05/06 8:47:46 am reply quote 0
#61 HBob 8/5/2006 09:52AM PDT
This is one of those times where UN foot dragging is a good thing.
This situation requires more and more talking - and IDF strikes - me thinks.

I’m looking forward to watching Bolton play the UN like a cheap fiddle.

105 The Other Les  8/05/06 8:48:23 am reply quote 0
106 PETN Sandwich  8/05/06 8:50:15 am reply quote 0
U.S., France Agree on Draft Cease-Fire Resolution

With headlines like this, no wonder few have a clue what is going on in the ME.

As an American, the first thing I think when seeing such a headline is, "Fuck the vichey, accept nothing less than unconditional surrender from then damn frogs!"

107 ploome hineni  8/05/06 8:50:23 am reply quote 0
40 gymnast 8/5/2006 09:26AM PDT
The only way for an Arab Army to deal with the realities of the logistics needed to sustain operations is through a cease fire allowing them to rearm. Right now Hizballah has been virtually reduced to a pack of scavenging foragers. In a few days they will be reduced to a pack of shit eating dogs.



yep

108 Midwest  8/05/06 8:53:06 am reply quote 0

#91 Spiny Norman

If the UN says it, it must be so.

/sarc off

109 mich-again  8/05/06 8:55:06 am reply quote 0

I can't believe these excerpts from the story posted haven't been pasted here yet. Hilarious stuff. I love Arab-speak.

You have abandoned your moral and national responsibility, out of fear for your thrones. But in the New Middle East, you will have no thrones, and there is no certainty that you will even have countries. Your states will be divided, by the map of the New Middle East, into cantons and midget-states, on the basis of religion, sects, and race. That large country will not remain a large country, that rich country will not remain a rich country, thrones will not remain thrones, and seats will not remain seats. For your own sake, for the sake of your thrones, I say to you: Combine your humanity with your thrones, and act...

Midget states? Combine your humanity with your throne?

110 _remembertonyc  8/05/06 8:55:28 am reply quote 0

103 Spiny Norman ...

Maybe so. Maybe, also, the Bush Administration is try to make the Democrat Senators opposed to Bolton's confirmation, on the grounds that he is not "diplomatic", look like idiots (not much of a stretch) when he works out an agreement with the freakin' French, of all people.

It still looks too much like Munich, though.
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Making the Dems look like fools requires no effort at all by the Republicans. As for echoes of Munich, I can see why you might feel that way. And I am totally on the side of Bush in his war in islamofascism.

But I give the administration credit for this much. They have allowed Israel to do their thing for a month. And since iran started this thing in order to divert attention from its nuke development, perhaps Bush & Co decided it was time to return the world's attention to the iran issue. And since something is clearly brewing in tehran around the 8/22 date, maybe Bush wants to cool things down in lebanon and heat things up on the iran issue.

Just my $0.02!

111 goodbye_natalie  8/05/06 9:05:00 am reply quote 0

#97 solomonpanting,

I saw your work last night. Very impressed. You self-taught because anyone that makes furniture is a top-of-the-line carpenter in my book.

Would be curious how you learned the trade.

112 DistantThunder  8/05/06 9:07:39 am reply quote 0

By their fruits, ye shall know them - Jesus Christ

113 Adrenalyn  8/05/06 9:08:47 am reply quote 0

I just don't see why Israel has not formally declared war on Lebanon and Iran (who admits supplying His-Ebola and just nuked Tehran and Beirut and be done.

114 EE  8/05/06 9:15:30 am reply quote 0

In the short run, Nasrallah wants a cease fire that creates a power vacuum so that he can rearm and acquire a resupply of missiles, as well as newer more dangerous missiles. He wants to restore Hizballah's missile menace to the status quo ante, what it was before Israel started to degrade Hizballah's missile capability.

In the long run, the average rate at which Hizballah fires missiles at Israel depends mainly on the average rate at which Hizballah gets resupplied with missiles. So the problem of preventing resupply has to be addressed.

Either Israel will need the right to knock out convoys from Syria carrying resupplies of missiles, even during an arrangement in which international forces are in place, or those international forces need to be armed and have the mandate and the will and ability to stop that resupply. Or else Israel will have to resort to depleting the missiles one at a time when they are set up to fire at Israel, which is the last desperate way to stop the missiles from being fired.

Better to stop the missiles while they are enroute to Hizballah, and they are much more vulnerable for a longer period of time and not embedded in residential areas, than to wait until they are about to be fired and use those few seconds or minutes to try to knock them out before they are fired.

115 The Boodge  8/05/06 9:16:49 am reply quote 0

Sounds like somebody's in over their head! I hope Israel goes ahead and finishes these bastards off! The only ceasefire will be the one that puts and end to islamo thug bull shit!

116 # 17  8/05/06 9:18:09 am reply quote 0

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Senior state officials in Jerusalem referred to the draft resolution that was being formed at the United Nations Security Council regarding a cessation of violence between Israel and Hizbullah. The officials said that the decision on Israel's stance would be made "within days or weeks."

117 LaMano  8/05/06 9:22:37 am reply quote 0

Nasrallah, demonstrate your honor about screwing up so badly by putting a bullet through your temple.

Then, we may talk.

118 Spiny Norman  8/05/06 9:23:24 am reply quote 0

#116 # 17

The officials said that the decision on Israel's stance would be made "within days or weeks."

In other words, don't call us, we'll call you.

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