Kristalnacht II is coming...

Tim Blair has been all over this today. Not only this horrific murder, but a temple has been attacked as has a Jewish youth center.

And this is just in Sydney.

The mask is coming off the ummah. The only question is: do we let these Nazis do this in our nations or do we stop them?

Thanks again, Charles, for the previous thread!

Probably Zionists looking to drum up sympathy for Israel.

//DUmmy

Heh. Beat you to it.

There's nothing to see here...move along.

"One man is described as 178cm tall, of medium build with shoulder length dark hair and clean shaven, wearing jeans and a black top. The second is 170cm tall, of medium build with dark short hair."

Visiting Swedes, no question ...

/c'mon, Aussies, time to expel those who would poison your land ...

He said the incident did appear to be related to the conflict in Lebanon.

Despite the lack of motive, brutality, and huge Lebanese population in Australia? Sounds like the whitewashing is automatic, as it is for the FBI when a Muslim suffers from Sudden Jihad Syndrome.

#1 Pro-Bush Canuck

Kristalnacht II is coming...

Certainly looks that way, doesn't it?

#2 KevinV
The mask is coming off the ummah. The only question is: do we let these Nazis do this in our nations or do we stop them?

Here's hoping our "dear leaders" will step up to the plate and lay down the law. Otherwise I am afraid that we are shortly in for every man/woman/child for himself.

Bush will send Condelleza Rice to Sydney to make sure there is no disproportionate response by the Israeli community.

Condeleeza will demand peace talks and everything will be peachy keen.

2 KevinV 8/5/2006 09:41PM PDT

....have they sent additional police to protect the islamic centers and mosques?

thats the important question

#6 OldGuard

I'm movin'... I'm movin'.

I didn't see a thing.

At least they actually admit its related to the situation.

The time is coming that many more Jews will make Aliya. I hope they will be able to defend themelves and that we, in the West, help them!

#7 buckaroo
They should follow N Zed's lead

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Don't let in any more that you can't get rid of -- even to visit family. Let the family go home!

Jews have been attacked brutally all over the world going back for a few years now. French police 'encourage' Jews not to report such crimes, along with other European PD's.

OT: I was wrong trying to give Olmert the benefit of the doubt. I wasn't aware of his many terrible decisions and statements.

CNN has actually been exposing Hizb'ALLAH, or hezbollah, as they call them , all nite.

Welcome to futurama,
Where the cyborgs will eat yer mama.

Well..Sunday's Sydney Morning Herald is out.

Guess what?

They are baffled. Baffled, I tell you.

Police are trying to establish the motive for the stabbing murder of an Israeli left for dead outside a shop in Bondi after a brutal attack by a carload of men.

The 36-year-old victim was set upon by the gang whom witnesses say bashed him with a pole or something similar and left him with multiple stab wounds about 9.45pm (AEST) last night.

When police arrived at the scene outside a convenience store at the intersection of Glenayr Avenue and Beach Road at Bondi Beach, the man was slumped on the footpath.

He was treated at the scene and taken to St Vincents Hospital for emergency surgery but died shortly before 4am (AEST) today.

Superintendent Mark Walton said detectives were trying to contact the man's family who live overseas.

He said the man, an Israeli citizen, had lived in the area for some time and was helped following the attack by about six people who are currently being interviewed by police.

Police say the motive is not known, although it is not believed to be racially motivated or related to the continuing conflict between Israel and the Hizbollah in Lebanon.

Nor is it clear how many people were involved in the attack or if they knew their victim.

Police have issued descriptions of two men they wish to interview over the murder.

He said the incident did appear to be related to the conflict in Lebanon.

At least the recognize reality!

Nothing to see here. Move along, move along.

/Chief Wiggum

#8 Beagle

You read too fast.

did appear

This time the MSM didn't try to whitewash it.

Let me guess about this 'gang of men': were they Hindu? Buddhist? Catholic? Aborigine? I'll bet it's 'none of the above...'

OT and re-post, but serious stuff

Iran's plot to mine uranium in Africa / Attack UK nuclear sites
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

IRAN is seeking to import large consignments of bomb-making uranium from the African mining area that produced the Hiroshima bomb, an investigation has revealed.
A United Nations report, dated July 18, said there was “no doubt” that a huge shipment of smuggled uranium 238, uncovered by customs officials in Tanzania, was transported from the Lubumbashi mines in the Congo.
Tanzanian customs officials told The Sunday Times it was destined for the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas, and was stopped on October 22 last year during a routine check.
The disclosure will heighten western fears about the extent of Iran’s presumed nuclear weapons programme and the strategic implications of Iran’s continuing support for Hezbollah during the war with Israel.
It has also emerged that terror cells backed by Iran may be prepared to mount attacks against nuclear power plants in Britain. Intelligence circulating in Whitehall suggests that sleeper cells linked to Tehran have been conducting reconnaissance at some nuclear sites in preparation for a possible attack.

/No worries! Plame and Wilson are on the job!

Police have issued descriptions of two men they wish to interview over the murder.

AND?

OK, maybe I'm reading it wrong. But if the crime did "relate to the conflict in Lebanon" wouldn't that make it a clear case of SJS against the most convenient Jew? In other words, a hate crime? Furthermore, doesn't ruling out such a linkage make it less likely they find the culprits?

OTOH, if SteveO and CrocodileD are arrested tomorrow, they were right.

Charles,

Did you edit the last paragraph? This is how the JPost's version from Al-AP reads:

Vic Alhadeff, head of the Jewish Board of Deputies, said local residents had identified the man as Israeli, but that the attack did not appear to be related to the conflict in Lebanon.

#8

Despite the lack of motive, brutality, and huge Lebanese population in Australia? Sounds like the whitewashing is automatic, as it is for the FBI when a Muslim suffers from Sudden Jihad Syndrome.

I thought the same thing, however new comments at Tim Blair suggest this time a 'whitewash' may be appropriate and it could be a drugs/criminal issue and not an Islamist attack. I suggest we all take a deep breath and wait a day or so.

#22 Tasty_Beverage

#8 Beagle

You read too fast.

did appear

This time the MSM didn't try to whitewash it.

Yes they did. "Did" is in the story from one AU source that Charles posted, the one from the Sydney Herald says "not believed to be related" .... more of that same old nothing to see here folks...move along now....you're looking the wrong way stuff.

Did you notice how fast the muslim who shot up the synagogue a couple of days back in Seattle turned into pyschotic, not religious, and then magically became Christian?

Almost enough to make you wonder what on earth they think they are trying to hide? We should start keeping a list!

I blame fuzzy contact lenses. No way to exit gracefully now. Sorry, Aussie cops. As for the FBI...

#21 KevinV:

/Officer Barbrady

Calling /powerlineblog.com/archives/014907.php" target="_blank">powerlineblog.com...] target="_blank">Joe Wilson. Iran tries to get African uranium.

#22 Tasty_Beverage

This time the MSM didn't try to whitewash it.

#19 must have shown up while you were writing that.

The pattern outside of the Middle East is basically the same as the pattern in the Middle East:

Arabs and or Muslims violently attack Jews. Arabs and or Muslims are agressors.

People that are so quick to criticize Israel need to accept this and understand the true nature of the conflict.

I'm not usually in favor of mob action, but I gotta say after all I've learned about the Aussie situation over the past 6 months, I'm glad those surfer boys took the law into their own hand and gave the ummah a message.

Like the US, I just don't think the usual Muslim strutting around and violence is going to be met with inaction.

Now the islamoscum community in Australia at large will declare how worried it is of a "backlash".

Just this weeks tally - so far! -

Brazilian synagogue damaged by Molotov cocktails

Jewish shops in Rome are defaced with swastikas
http://www.jpost.com.... and now this report from Canada. . .

Judeoscope.ca has video of Hizballah supporters in Montreal violently attacking pro-Israel demonstrators.

Miami this past weekend.

Two South Florida synagogues and a kosher restaurant have cleaned up messages of hate left behind by vandals over the weekend.

The vandals struck the Young Israel of Greater Miami and Shaaray Tefilah synagogues in North Miami Beach.

They spray painted in red, swastikas, the letters “KKK”, for the hate group, The Ku Klux Klan, and the message “you are next” on both synagogues.

http://www.jewishpre....

Four separate acts of anti-Semitic vandalism recently occurred in the Jewish community of South Florida. Two synagogues, Young Israel of Greater Miami and Congregation Shaaray Tefilah, and two stores, Kosher World and Judaic Enterprises, were spray-painted with hate-filled graffiti.

Jewish Center in Australia attacked

The Brussels Jewish Memorial for Holocaust victims has been vandalised,

Shooting in Seattle: Muslim revenge

New York Magazine: Israel a mistake

Israel reporter attacked, spat upon in Boston

Mayhem at the defend Hizballah rally

Mel Gibsons drunken declaration

In today’s Aftenposten, bestselling Norwegian author Jostein Gaarder, demonizes the state of Israel

OT
via Michael Ledeen at The Corner...

...The Islamic Republic has now specifically announced that should their nuclear dossier be voted for referral by the United Nations Security Council for sanctions in the August round of voting, that all political prisoners, whether on furlough or in prison, will be summarily executed. ...

[Link: regimechangeiran.com...]

Well, that 'clears it up' for me. The crime is/is not believed by police to be related to the conflict in Lebanon. Someone call Barney Fife!

Sorry, here is a link
[Link: powerlineblog.com...]

Joe Wilson, where are you?

OT

Did we already have a thread about Iran doing this:

Aug 2, 2006 — BERLIN (Reuters) - Iran has freed a son of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden from house arrest, a German newspaper reported on Wednesday.

Die Welt said the Iranian Revolutionary Guard released Saad bin Laden on July 28 with the aim of sending him to the Syria-Lebanon border. It linked the reported move to the outbreak of war between Israel and Lebanese-based Hizbollah.

"From the Lebanese border, he has the task of building Islamist terror cells and preparing them to fight together with Hizbollah," Die Welt said, quoting intelligence information.

"Apparently Tehran is counting on recruiting Lebanese refugees in Syria for the fight against Israel, using bin Laden's help," it added in a preview of a report to appear in its Thursday edition.

Western intelligence sources have long suspected that Iran is holding a number of al Qaeda figures, possibly including Saad bin Laden and Saif al-Adel, the network's security chief.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Millions of Auusies are now hiding their kitchen knives and anything that looks like a pipe. Commissions are already forming for the obligatory round-up of utensils/plumbingsupplies weapons from law abiding citizens.

/NO, seriously!

Carl in Jerusalem and all-

WTF is up with this flash report from Ha'aretz? I don't even begin to understand it, which means I must be missing something:

Israel has lifted its demand for the deployment of a new multinational force in southern Lebanon and agreed that UNIFIL, the United Nations force already in place, would oversee the cease-fire.

In a draft text for a UN Security Council resolution on ending the crisis in Lebanon, agreed Saturday by the United States and France, it was concluded that the UN Interim Force in Lebanon would be replaced by a new force only after Israel and Lebanon reach agreement on the principles of a long-term accord.

In the immediate future, UNIFIL will be reinforced with more troops in order to be able to carry out its new mandate.

Initially Israel opposed the expansion of UNIFIL's role and asked that it be replaced, arguing that to date its performance was poor and its troops did not prevent terrorist attacks.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said last week that Israel "will not accept a force of the UNIFIL type, that was proven not to be effective. The force that will be deployed will have to comprise of armies, not pensioners who come to vacation in southern Lebanon, but real soldiers capable of fighting."

And I am sure the attackers were from a broad spectrum of society. Nothing to worry about folks.

# 16 c

SWEET!

That's gotta be the sanest thing the kiwis have done lately ...

#37 say what
You still haven't added the thread's subject, which I posted in the last thread.

TIGHTEN UP!

/Say what?!

Hmmm... the article at the link differes quite a bit from what you quoted Charles... more Dhimmitude on behalf of News.com.au I am sure...

Keep those immigration doors open to Muslims. Let them keep building Mosques and Islamic centers. Tis our constitutional duty to accomodate every "religion."

Why if we actually got serious like these assholes have already declared war on us then we might alter America, you know...become like them.

Instead we will take our confidence in 250 year old documents that had no clue of this darkness, and along with our lawyers, MSM and false hope in historically illiterate leaders, and perverted intellectuals, we'll do fine. Why I think over in Iraq our soldiers have killed some Jihadists...probably even today. That's the ticket, that'll do it.

These cats are BROAD STRATA!. Pass da phenocycodine dipped cigarettes.

Twas an accident the moosie stabbed up a jew. Nithing to see here. Keep steppin to the devils drum, game.

Other news in today's Sydney Morning Herald:

August 5, 2006 - 10:37AM
Britons to stage 'masturbate-a-thon'

Hundreds of Britons are being urged to attend what is being branded as Europe's first "Masturbate-a-thon", a leading British reproductive healthcare charity said.

Marie Stopes International, which is hosting the event with HIV/AIDS charity the Terrence Higgins Trust, said it expected up to 200 people to attend the sponsored masturbation session in Clerkenwell, central London, on Sunday.

"It is a bit of a publicity stunt but we hope it will raise awareness," a Marie Stopes spokeswoman said.

www.smh.com.au/news/world/britons-to-stage-masturb ateathon/2006/08/05/1154198365280.html

#43 I thought I had everything figured out here, but when I saw the Haaretz article I had a wtf moment as well.

#29 galloping granny

Yes they did. "Did" is in the story from one AU source that Charles posted, the one from the Sydney Herald says "not believed to be related"

I should have said "news.com.au" instead of MSM. But look at this:

#33 The Monster

#19 must have shown up while you were writing that.

No, I read that story earlier. As above, I should have stated "news.com.au" instead of MSM. But go back and hit Charles's link now -- The story has been completely altered -- I mean radically, drastically altered. The numbers in the before and after links are the same. I don't know what happened in the last half hour.

Bondi beach is located in the jurisdiction of the Waverley Council that banned the display of the Australian flag in January for Australia Day out of fear of provoking a violent reaction from the local Muslim youths in the wake of the unprovoked attacks on non-Muslims in Cronulla and subsequent outrage reactions of the non-Muslim Australians.

One would think that the Australians would stop hitting the snooze button after the brutal murder of 200 of their fellow Australians in Bali by jihadis who have declared open war on Australia. Then again, one would think that the Americans would stop hitting the snooze button after 9/11, the Brits after the London bombings, the Spanish after the Madrid bombings, the Russians after Beslan, the ...

jehu,

I thought you'd been asked to quit tellin us the truth and moderate yerself.....

There are non eliminationalists around just waiting to spew invective!

#40 jb
The hook on Drudge's link was ~ "Here we go again!"

# 38 JD

that all political prisoners, whether on furlough or in prison, will be summarily executed. ...

Anyone in the custody of a terrorist band (Iran fails the duck test for having a government) should be considered to be already dead.

Start the bombing, please.

#27 Carl in Jerusalem

Did you edit the last paragraph? This is how the JPost's version from Al-AP reads:

Vic Alhadeff, head of the Jewish Board of Deputies, said local residents had identified the man as Israeli, but that the attack did not appear to be related to the conflict in Lebanon.

Well, now the posted link doesn't match the posted text at all either.

/weirod

Re my #52,

When I say "numbers" I mean in the URL. The URL is the same, yet the article has been completely re-written.

# 43 KevinV

That's what was in there last night. I don't think it's going to happen anyway. Lebanon has rejected it and demanded a lot of changes. Hezbullah has rejected any plan that leaves Israeli troops in place, and there is no way that Israeli troops are going to leave and turn it over to UNIFIL.

I called "phenocyclodine", "phenocycodine", my bad, too many sherms on this young republicans brain.

# 42 cbinflux

Commissions are already forming for the obligatory round-up of weapons from law abiding citizens.

Take down the names of their commissioners and hang them for treason when the time comes.

Canadian Prime Minister Steve is being accused here of backpedaling in his support of Israel to shore up falling standing in the polls. If he is, it's barely perceptible; he still sounds pretty solid to me.

#43 The only saving grace is this clause, which will be excercised within a week I suspect.

The resolution calls for an end to the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah, but would allow Israel to defend itself if attacked, officials said.

With that clause in Lebananon will not agree, so Israel accomodated without really giving up anything. The diplo-volleying could go on a while here.

It does show that Lebanon knows that neither they nor ummafil will be able to control Hezbollah after the ceasefire.

All night
She wants the young Republican
Young Republican, young Republican, she wants the young Republican
All right
She wants the young Republican..

Where are the gangsta "Yabos" i heard about? Like my pops said, "I hope there is an anti islam backlash".

Carl in Jerusalem -

Well, that's a bit of a relief. When I hear of such a 180 degree turn in a diplomatic stance, it worries me.

Of course, if, as the article states, Israel lifted its objections because it has received credible assurances that the "new" UNIFIL will be the robust int'l force Israel wants it to be, I suppose it doesn't matter what it is called.

It does look like France is ready to contribute serious troops and give them fighting orders.

Ah.....it's so hard to tell what is going on....

The police must be terrified of the massive backlash which results when Muslims kill people. Any minute now. You'll see... No really. There must be one example. Could happen. OK, maybe not. Never happens you say?

Well surround the mosques with personnel who could be better used elsewhere anyway!

In college we couldn't change our papers after submission. I should have gone straight to journalism for the lower standards.

The article is in constant re-write, and w/o proofing. The under-heading says "carload" of men while the article says two, and gives two descriptions.

Also police, thru the surgeons (now coroner), should be able to tell what kind of weapon made the stab wounds.

Beagle # 67,

No doubt, we should have military units gaurding mosques.

Okay, Google News shows the block of text Charles posted as coming from The Australian, not news.com.au. Maybe the Lizardoid Master had several windows open and pasted the wrong URL. See here:

Israeli man stabbed to death

Charles,

Earlier tonight I could not get to your site btw during the diggstorm. So, Digg was a good idea, I just can't stand the joint personally.

Yes, Journalism School..

I've thought this too..

#50 Amalie

LOL! "Raise awareness" of masturbation?! Londoners must have really short arms.

The George Soros School Of Journalism

Orientation being held at 1:00 PM at the Joseph P. Biden Pavilion

"The motivation in relation to this incident is unknown at this stage," Supt Walton said.

"We are very open minded but there is nothing in relation to information or evidence that it is connected to this man's nationality or religious background."

73 Beagle

Yes.. I noticed that too...

LOL ~

*when we go to the school of journalism we can take a course on innuendo..

#46 cbinflux

still haven't added the thread's subject, , which I posted in the last thread.

Ooops . . . missed your comment in the last thread, otherwise I would have responded. Thanks. ;)

Way past my bedtime here. . . but it's been quite an interesting evening. Nite all.

Amalie 74,

Good one. Educated.

Hey jehu ! Lemme know when you get that new constitution finished. We get to vote on that, or is that gone, too ?

Alright, who get's the back of my hand for stretching the thread out? (Or is it just me?)

no pun intended

#70 tasty
That same block was at monstersandcritics; posted it last thread.

Probably from the Vegemite wires.

Debate 101
Instructor: Master Debater John Forbes Kerry

Mike C,

You can wear the constitution as a fucking hat if islam is ever victorious. Pirate style or baseball cap. It dont matta.

Thanks Murgtaad

#80 Salem
It must be just you.

OT
A moment of silence...
4-time Iditarod champ Susan Butcher dies

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

How awesome she was!

Murq 54

Yeah...I know em well. And I know what motivates them. It is fear and unbelief, although they project that upon others. Simply put, this great battle we are entering is not just military, political, or about religions. As man is a triune being (Body, Soul, Spirit), this final great conflict is to bring those that are willing to spiritual maturity. We cannot overcome this enemy by physical greatness alone. We must engage the totality of what a human being is, and what we are to become.

This battle requires a spiritual focus and a real faith in God, it requires intellectual honesty, and it requires that we speak the truth. No false hope will succeed. We must see evil for what it is, and then seek the relationship to God that will give us His strength to stand against this evil.

He will give us the wisdom and force to stop this darkness that would destroy all mankind. Those that refuse a relationship with God in this time...will become prey to the spirit behind Islam, no matter how strong they think they are.

For it is the spirit of Western nations that has been rotted to the core so that even though they have the physical power and military strength to make short work of all the Islamic nations on the earth, they instead sucumb, appease and act as if they have already lost.

God told us all that a time would come when all men on the earth will have to choose, will have to act. Even as our world wars were dress rehersals for millions...to choose. The German that watched his Jewish neighbor taken away by the SS...he made a choice at that time. Even as the SS soldier had made his choice. The difference now, is these moral dilemas will be universal upon humanity...not just here or there. Not just in Rwanda, or the Sudan, or in Iraq, or Israel. It will be everywhere, and it is accelerating faster than I ever thought possible.

or you can wear it at yer funeral as a death shroud.....

Slow. Suicide. Stimulas. Right? Wouldn't wanna rewrite the constitution and piss off some dead guys from 230 years ago, would we?

# 84 Murqtad

That's okay - destroy the very foundations of America and I'll effing join up to help them.

Jehu,

Yeah...I know em well. And I know what motivates them. It is fear and unbelief, although they project that upon others.

Sounds familiar..... almost islamic, dont it?

# 89 Murg

You want to re-write it ? By all means, have at it. It's perfectly legal to do so, and there's even a well-established procedure to follow. Good luck !

mike c,

# 84 Murqtad

That's okay - destroy the very foundations of America and I'll effing join up to help them.

you already are, you document worshipping jackass.

88 jehu

This battle requires a spiritual focus and a real faith in God, it requires intellectual honesty, and it requires that we speak the truth

Since you mentioned "intellectual honesty" then I am going to give my opinion on your post.

You are laying the ground rules, that one has to have a real faith in God in order to succeed in this struggle. One's faith in God is personal and not for your consumption. You are going to have to learn how to trust and have faith in those of us that are just as brave as you are and just as willing as you to put an end to the scourge of Islamists but do not trot out our faith nor wear it on our sleeve.

92 Mike C,

You want to re-write it ?

Do you wanna die by it? You wont offend anyone that way.....

Melenie Phillips is on C-Span 2 right now talknig about her book. Londonstan. Its almost over now. Very Interesting.

Damn, is the sky falling again?

/I thought it already fell last week

Has CAIR reacted to this attack with a frantic statement warning of outbreaks of islamophobia?

Killian,

Sky aint fallin....

Hyperbole is for arabs, dont join their ranks.

Mike C

I'll put my faith in God, you put yours in some documents that had no ability to anticipate the virus we let into our midst. A Constitution that is now riddled with holes and twisted nearly beyond recognition by liberal lawyers.

Should there even be any discussion about the 2nd ammendment? Why any restrictions? How can cites ban gun ownership? The list is endless, including liberals discerning auras in the documents.

Not to mention cities can now take your property if they can get a better tax deal. You are living in a dream world if you think that document is protecting anything, other than the rights of crimnals, pedophiles and a relgion sworn to finish off what is left.

How do you react to police department after police department that rushes to placate Muslims...after someone from their community commits mayhem and murder? This is not isolated behaviors, but established patterns.

Stop fighting me, and start fighting the enemy of us all, and get rid of all the rules you think we must have for ourselves, but none for our enemies.

We no longer have leaders that even understand what is happening to this country, let alone taking steps for its protection. Our choices are someone like Bush, a good man, but seemingly ignorant of history. Or ruthlessly ambitious venal men like Gore or Kerry.

The cadet cops can only look for the carload of men in a green Mitsubishi Pajero with NSW registration SVJ 201 until 11 pm. You see.. they're on restriction curfew for partying too hard lately.
[Link: www.news.com.au...]
And the good citizens of Oz are virtually forbidden to defend themselves.
Lights out as cop curfew kicks in

/God help us all

#99 Murqtaad

Sky aint fallin....

Then stop shrieking.

/we're winning this war

And the great document war raged on for generations...

2 Kevin V-- this makes me mad as the govt could put an end to it if they'd really do a crack down and arrest and charge andtry these f*cks, and protect the population.
we are faced with the same thing here. The Police chief of Seattle says that mosques will be protected and I ask against whom you asshole...?

Killian,

Then stop shrieking.

/we're winning this war

Who is shriekin?

Is agreeing with jehu shrieking?

Or is going against that hypocrite Mike C., who is making money off of totalitarian regimes by telling them where to drill holes in rocks, shrieking?

Tell you what, go hang with the crew at alphabet soup and dis Charles and this blog.

We are the government. IF you do not like what your representatives are doing, replace them. Run for office. Support people that share your views. Take back what is yours.

Amalie 94

You are laying the ground rules, that one has to have a real faith in God in order to succeed in this struggle.

I did't lay down any rules, I just know how to read and discern what is coming by what has been. You do know Islam has tried to destroy the West (Christianity) twice in the past?

You know that Europe is going under? And they are going under because they lost their faith...they are apostate. And Islam has a spiritual force. If you do not have a greater spiritual force then you will lose. To me it is an equation, emotion, loyalty to dead documents, love of America, belief that we are the good guys. None of that will prevail. Either you find a spiritual force grater than Islam or you do not. America gets one better chance than Europe. We get to watch as they go under, and we either figure it out, or go the same way. Or do you think we are special?

One's faith in God is personal and not for your consumption.

And yet we are up against something that will make sure your faith will be public and rigidly observed, until it has killed your soul. Everyone will have to make their own decisions and figure out what will work. I offer what I think works, and what we are up against. If you think our government, military, or some great leader is going to come on the scene and reverse 40 years of political correctness, and a pre-conditioned response to villify our own culture, while exonerating the one that wants to kill us, then you already have greater faith than me, just in something else.

You are going to have to learn how to trust and have faith in those of us that are just as brave as you are and just as willing as you to put an end to the scourge of Islamists but do not trot out our faith nor wear it on our sleeve.

Are you kidding me or yourself? You cannot even talk on this blog, or suggest what we will probably HAVE to do eventually if we are to win against Islam, without a frenzied hysteria that someone broke into the National Archives and let the Constitution on fire. And this blog is cutting edge in taking on the Islamist threat. If we cannot even entertain ideas here of starting a debate that Islame is NOT a religion, and so should not be protected by our founding documents, do you think it can be suggested by those in power? That is why many of us believe we will not act until we are hit again, and hit hard, because too many are wedded to an Idea of the perfection of our government and society, something shown everyday to be failing in this battle.

O yeah and people better get over the prissy germ-washing fetish of ignoring our spirituality in the public square. It is political correctness that has disarmed the West from its weapons and faith.

#105 Murqtaad

Tell you what, go hang with the crew at alphabet soup and dis Charles and this blog.

Why on earth would I want to do that and what does it have to do with anything?

/the Imam isn't going to pop out of the well on the 22nd, Koranimals talk a lot of smack but, in modern history, they've proven to be nothing but pathetic losers

Jehu

You are mistaken. It has been discussed here over and over, ad nauseam, that Islam is not a religion but a cult formed by a pedophile.

What you seem to be disregarding is the American spirit. If you think this was this the only dark days in our history then you are wrong. Over two million of our men died in our own Civil War. We suffered through the Great Depression, we went and fought two World Wars. We will prevail in this fight whereas you have us already losing.

I see Mike has moved his "kofi Annan act" upstairs in the past 15 minutes. The coward. I'm gonna sleep. Jehu, keep tellin the real. Frauds sorround us.