Kristalnacht II is coming...

Tim Blair has been all over this today. Not only this horrific murder, but a temple has been attacked as has a Jewish youth center.

And this is just in Sydney.

The mask is coming off the ummah. The only question is: do we let these Nazis do this in our nations or do we stop them?

Thanks again, Charles, for the previous thread!

Probably Zionists looking to drum up sympathy for Israel.

//DUmmy

Heh. Beat you to it.

There's nothing to see here...move along.

"One man is described as 178cm tall, of medium build with shoulder length dark hair and clean shaven, wearing jeans and a black top. The second is 170cm tall, of medium build with dark short hair."

Visiting Swedes, no question ...

/c'mon, Aussies, time to expel those who would poison your land ...

He said the incident did appear to be related to the conflict in Lebanon.

Despite the lack of motive, brutality, and huge Lebanese population in Australia? Sounds like the whitewashing is automatic, as it is for the FBI when a Muslim suffers from Sudden Jihad Syndrome.

#1 Pro-Bush Canuck

Kristalnacht II is coming...

Certainly looks that way, doesn't it?

#2 KevinV
The mask is coming off the ummah. The only question is: do we let these Nazis do this in our nations or do we stop them?

Here's hoping our "dear leaders" will step up to the plate and lay down the law. Otherwise I am afraid that we are shortly in for every man/woman/child for himself.

Bush will send Condelleza Rice to Sydney to make sure there is no disproportionate response by the Israeli community.

Condeleeza will demand peace talks and everything will be peachy keen.

#6 OldGuard

I'm movin'... I'm movin'.

I didn't see a thing.

At least they actually admit its related to the situation.

The time is coming that many more Jews will make Aliya. I hope they will be able to defend themelves and that we, in the West, help them!

#7 buckaroo
They should follow N Zed's lead

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Don't let in any more that you can't get rid of -- even to visit family. Let the family go home!

Jews have been attacked brutally all over the world going back for a few years now. French police 'encourage' Jews not to report such crimes, along with other European PD's.

OT: I was wrong trying to give Olmert the benefit of the doubt. I wasn't aware of his many terrible decisions and statements.

CNN has actually been exposing Hizb'ALLAH, or hezbollah, as they call them , all nite.

Welcome to futurama,
Where the cyborgs will eat yer mama.

Well..Sunday's Sydney Morning Herald is out.

Guess what?

They are baffled. Baffled, I tell you.

Police are trying to establish the motive for the stabbing murder of an Israeli left for dead outside a shop in Bondi after a brutal attack by a carload of men.

The 36-year-old victim was set upon by the gang whom witnesses say bashed him with a pole or something similar and left him with multiple stab wounds about 9.45pm (AEST) last night.

When police arrived at the scene outside a convenience store at the intersection of Glenayr Avenue and Beach Road at Bondi Beach, the man was slumped on the footpath.

He was treated at the scene and taken to St Vincents Hospital for emergency surgery but died shortly before 4am (AEST) today.

Superintendent Mark Walton said detectives were trying to contact the man's family who live overseas.

He said the man, an Israeli citizen, had lived in the area for some time and was helped following the attack by about six people who are currently being interviewed by police.

Police say the motive is not known, although it is not believed to be racially motivated or related to the continuing conflict between Israel and the Hizbollah in Lebanon.

Nor is it clear how many people were involved in the attack or if they knew their victim.

Police have issued descriptions of two men they wish to interview over the murder.

He said the incident did appear to be related to the conflict in Lebanon.

At least the recognize reality!

Nothing to see here. Move along, move along.

/Chief Wiggum

#8 Beagle

You read too fast.

did appear

This time the MSM didn't try to whitewash it.

Let me guess about this 'gang of men': were they Hindu? Buddhist? Catholic? Aborigine? I'll bet it's 'none of the above...'

OT and re-post, but serious stuff

Iran's plot to mine uranium in Africa / Attack UK nuclear sites
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

IRAN is seeking to import large consignments of bomb-making uranium from the African mining area that produced the Hiroshima bomb, an investigation has revealed.
A United Nations report, dated July 18, said there was “no doubt” that a huge shipment of smuggled uranium 238, uncovered by customs officials in Tanzania, was transported from the Lubumbashi mines in the Congo.
Tanzanian customs officials told The Sunday Times it was destined for the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas, and was stopped on October 22 last year during a routine check.
The disclosure will heighten western fears about the extent of Iran’s presumed nuclear weapons programme and the strategic implications of Iran’s continuing support for Hezbollah during the war with Israel.
It has also emerged that terror cells backed by Iran may be prepared to mount attacks against nuclear power plants in Britain. Intelligence circulating in Whitehall suggests that sleeper cells linked to Tehran have been conducting reconnaissance at some nuclear sites in preparation for a possible attack.

/No worries! Plame and Wilson are on the job!

Police have issued descriptions of two men they wish to interview over the murder.

AND?

OK, maybe I'm reading it wrong. But if the crime did "relate to the conflict in Lebanon" wouldn't that make it a clear case of SJS against the most convenient Jew? In other words, a hate crime? Furthermore, doesn't ruling out such a linkage make it less likely they find the culprits?

OTOH, if SteveO and CrocodileD are arrested tomorrow, they were right.

Charles,

Did you edit the last paragraph? This is how the JPost's version from Al-AP reads:

Vic Alhadeff, head of the Jewish Board of Deputies, said local residents had identified the man as Israeli, but that the attack did not appear to be related to the conflict in Lebanon.

#8

Despite the lack of motive, brutality, and huge Lebanese population in Australia? Sounds like the whitewashing is automatic, as it is for the FBI when a Muslim suffers from Sudden Jihad Syndrome.

I thought the same thing, however new comments at Tim Blair suggest this time a 'whitewash' may be appropriate and it could be a drugs/criminal issue and not an Islamist attack. I suggest we all take a deep breath and wait a day or so.

#22 Tasty_Beverage

#8 Beagle

You read too fast.

did appear

This time the MSM didn't try to whitewash it.

Yes they did. "Did" is in the story from one AU source that Charles posted, the one from the Sydney Herald says "not believed to be related" .... more of that same old nothing to see here folks...move along now....you're looking the wrong way stuff.

Did you notice how fast the muslim who shot up the synagogue a couple of days back in Seattle turned into pyschotic, not religious, and then magically became Christian?

Almost enough to make you wonder what on earth they think they are trying to hide? We should start keeping a list!

I blame fuzzy contact lenses. No way to exit gracefully now. Sorry, Aussie cops. As for the FBI...

#21 KevinV:

/Officer Barbrady

Calling powerlineblog.com...] target="_blank">Joe Wilson. Iran tries to get African uranium.

#22 Tasty_Beverage

This time the MSM didn't try to whitewash it.

#19 must have shown up while you were writing that.

The pattern outside of the Middle East is basically the same as the pattern in the Middle East:

Arabs and or Muslims violently attack Jews. Arabs and or Muslims are agressors.

People that are so quick to criticize Israel need to accept this and understand the true nature of the conflict.

I'm not usually in favor of mob action, but I gotta say after all I've learned about the Aussie situation over the past 6 months, I'm glad those surfer boys took the law into their own hand and gave the ummah a message.

Like the US, I just don't think the usual Muslim strutting around and violence is going to be met with inaction.

Now the islamoscum community in Australia at large will declare how worried it is of a "backlash".

Just this weeks tally - so far! -

Brazilian synagogue damaged by Molotov cocktails

Jewish shops in Rome are defaced with swastikas
http://www.jpost.com.... and now this report from Canada. . .

Judeoscope.ca has video of Hizballah supporters in Montreal violently attacking pro-Israel demonstrators.

Miami this past weekend.

Two South Florida synagogues and a kosher restaurant have cleaned up messages of hate left behind by vandals over the weekend.

The vandals struck the Young Israel of Greater Miami and Shaaray Tefilah synagogues in North Miami Beach.

They spray painted in red, swastikas, the letters “KKK”, for the hate group, The Ku Klux Klan, and the message “you are next” on both synagogues.

http://www.jewishpre....

Four separate acts of anti-Semitic vandalism recently occurred in the Jewish community of South Florida. Two synagogues, Young Israel of Greater Miami and Congregation Shaaray Tefilah, and two stores, Kosher World and Judaic Enterprises, were spray-painted with hate-filled graffiti.

Jewish Center in Australia attacked

The Brussels Jewish Memorial for Holocaust victims has been vandalised,

Shooting in Seattle: Muslim revenge

New York Magazine: Israel a mistake

Israel reporter attacked, spat upon in Boston

Mayhem at the defend Hizballah rally

Mel Gibsons drunken declaration

In today’s Aftenposten, bestselling Norwegian author Jostein Gaarder, demonizes the state of Israel

OT
via Michael Ledeen at The Corner...

...The Islamic Republic has now specifically announced that should their nuclear dossier be voted for referral by the United Nations Security Council for sanctions in the August round of voting, that all political prisoners, whether on furlough or in prison, will be summarily executed. ...

[Link: regimechangeiran.com...]

Well, that 'clears it up' for me. The crime is/is not believed by police to be related to the conflict in Lebanon. Someone call Barney Fife!

Sorry, here is a link
[Link: powerlineblog.com...]

Joe Wilson, where are you?

OT

Did we already have a thread about Iran doing this:

Aug 2, 2006 — BERLIN (Reuters) - Iran has freed a son of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden from house arrest, a German newspaper reported on Wednesday.

Die Welt said the Iranian Revolutionary Guard released Saad bin Laden on July 28 with the aim of sending him to the Syria-Lebanon border. It linked the reported move to the outbreak of war between Israel and Lebanese-based Hizbollah.

"From the Lebanese border, he has the task of building Islamist terror cells and preparing them to fight together with Hizbollah," Die Welt said, quoting intelligence information.

"Apparently Tehran is counting on recruiting Lebanese refugees in Syria for the fight against Israel, using bin Laden's help," it added in a preview of a report to appear in its Thursday edition.

Western intelligence sources have long suspected that Iran is holding a number of al Qaeda figures, possibly including Saad bin Laden and Saif al-Adel, the network's security chief.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Millions of Auusies are now hiding their kitchen knives and anything that looks like a pipe. Commissions are already forming for the obligatory round-up of utensils/plumbingsupplies weapons from law abiding citizens.

/NO, seriously!

Carl in Jerusalem and all-

WTF is up with this flash report from Ha'aretz? I don't even begin to understand it, which means I must be missing something:

Israel has lifted its demand for the deployment of a new multinational force in southern Lebanon and agreed that UNIFIL, the United Nations force already in place, would oversee the cease-fire.

In a draft text for a UN Security Council resolution on ending the crisis in Lebanon, agreed Saturday by the United States and France, it was concluded that the UN Interim Force in Lebanon would be replaced by a new force only after Israel and Lebanon reach agreement on the principles of a long-term accord.

In the immediate future, UNIFIL will be reinforced with more troops in order to be able to carry out its new mandate.

Initially Israel opposed the expansion of UNIFIL's role and asked that it be replaced, arguing that to date its performance was poor and its troops did not prevent terrorist attacks.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said last week that Israel "will not accept a force of the UNIFIL type, that was proven not to be effective. The force that will be deployed will have to comprise of armies, not pensioners who come to vacation in southern Lebanon, but real soldiers capable of fighting."

And I am sure the attackers were from a broad spectrum of society. Nothing to worry about folks.

# 16 c

SWEET!

That's gotta be the sanest thing the kiwis have done lately ...

#37 say what
You still haven't added the thread's subject, which I posted in the last thread.

TIGHTEN UP!

/Say what?!

Hmmm... the article at the link differes quite a bit from what you quoted Charles... more Dhimmitude on behalf of News.com.au I am sure...

Keep those immigration doors open to Muslims. Let them keep building Mosques and Islamic centers. Tis our constitutional duty to accomodate every "religion."

Why if we actually got serious like these assholes have already declared war on us then we might alter America, you know...become like them.

Instead we will take our confidence in 250 year old documents that had no clue of this darkness, and along with our lawyers, MSM and false hope in historically illiterate leaders, and perverted intellectuals, we'll do fine. Why I think over in Iraq our soldiers have killed some Jihadists...probably even today. That's the ticket, that'll do it.

These cats are BROAD STRATA!. Pass da phenocycodine dipped cigarettes.

Twas an accident the moosie stabbed up a jew. Nithing to see here. Keep steppin to the devils drum, game.

Other news in today's Sydney Morning Herald:

August 5, 2006 - 10:37AM
Britons to stage 'masturbate-a-thon'

Hundreds of Britons are being urged to attend what is being branded as Europe's first "Masturbate-a-thon", a leading British reproductive healthcare charity said.

Marie Stopes International, which is hosting the event with HIV/AIDS charity the Terrence Higgins Trust, said it expected up to 200 people to attend the sponsored masturbation session in Clerkenwell, central London, on Sunday.

"It is a bit of a publicity stunt but we hope it will raise awareness," a Marie Stopes spokeswoman said.

[Link: www.smh.com.au...]

#43 I thought I had everything figured out here, but when I saw the Haaretz article I had a wtf moment as well.

#29 galloping granny

Yes they did. "Did" is in the story from one AU source that Charles posted, the one from the Sydney Herald says "not believed to be related"

I should have said "news.com.au" instead of MSM. But look at this:

#33 The Monster

#19 must have shown up while you were writing that.

No, I read that story earlier. As above, I should have stated "news.com.au" instead of MSM. But go back and hit Charles's link now -- The story has been completely altered -- I mean radically, drastically altered. The numbers in the before and after links are the same. I don't know what happened in the last half hour.

Bondi beach is located in the jurisdiction of the Waverley Council that banned the display of the Australian flag in January for Australia Day out of fear of provoking a violent reaction from the local Muslim youths in the wake of the unprovoked attacks on non-Muslims in Cronulla and subsequent outrage reactions of the non-Muslim Australians.

One would think that the Australians would stop hitting the snooze button after the brutal murder of 200 of their fellow Australians in Bali by jihadis who have declared open war on Australia. Then again, one would think that the Americans would stop hitting the snooze button after 9/11, the Brits after the London bombings, the Spanish after the Madrid bombings, the Russians after Beslan, the ...

jehu,

I thought you'd been asked to quit tellin us the truth and moderate yerself.....

There are non eliminationalists around just waiting to spew invective!

#40 jb
The hook on Drudge's link was ~ "Here we go again!"

# 38 JD

that all political prisoners, whether on furlough or in prison, will be summarily executed. ...

Anyone in the custody of a terrorist band (Iran fails the duck test for having a government) should be considered to be already dead.

Start the bombing, please.

#27 Carl in Jerusalem

Did you edit the last paragraph? This is how the JPost's version from Al-AP reads:

Vic Alhadeff, head of the Jewish Board of Deputies, said local residents had identified the man as Israeli, but that the attack did not appear to be related to the conflict in Lebanon.

Well, now the posted link doesn't match the posted text at all either.

/weirod

Re my #52,

When I say "numbers" I mean in the URL. The URL is the same, yet the article has been completely re-written.

# 43 KevinV

That's what was in there last night. I don't think it's going to happen anyway. Lebanon has rejected it and demanded a lot of changes. Hezbullah has rejected any plan that leaves Israeli troops in place, and there is no way that Israeli troops are going to leave and turn it over to UNIFIL.

I called "phenocyclodine", "phenocycodine", my bad, too many sherms on this young republicans brain.

# 42 cbinflux

Commissions are already forming for the obligatory round-up of weapons from law abiding citizens.

Take down the names of their commissioners and hang them for treason when the time comes.

Canadian Prime Minister Steve is being accused here of backpedaling in his support of Israel to shore up falling standing in the polls. If he is, it's barely perceptible; he still sounds pretty solid to me.

#43 The only saving grace is this clause, which will be excercised within a week I suspect.

The resolution calls for an end to the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah, but would allow Israel to defend itself if attacked, officials said.

With that clause in Lebananon will not agree, so Israel accomodated without really giving up anything. The diplo-volleying could go on a while here.

It does show that Lebanon knows that neither they nor ummafil will be able to control Hezbollah after the ceasefire.

All night
She wants the young Republican
Young Republican, young Republican, she wants the young Republican
All right
She wants the young Republican..

Where are the gangsta "Yabos" i heard about? Like my pops said, "I hope there is an anti islam backlash".

Carl in Jerusalem -

Well, that's a bit of a relief. When I hear of such a 180 degree turn in a diplomatic stance, it worries me.

Of course, if, as the article states, Israel lifted its objections because it has received credible assurances that the "new" UNIFIL will be the robust int'l force Israel wants it to be, I suppose it doesn't matter what it is called.

It does look like France is ready to contribute serious troops and give them fighting orders.

Ah.....it's so hard to tell what is going on....

The police must be terrified of the massive backlash which results when Muslims kill people. Any minute now. You'll see... No really. There must be one example. Could happen. OK, maybe not. Never happens you say?

Well surround the mosques with personnel who could be better used elsewhere anyway!

In college we couldn't change our papers after submission. I should have gone straight to journalism for the lower standards.

The article is in constant re-write, and w/o proofing. The under-heading says "carload" of men while the article says two, and gives two descriptions.

Also police, thru the surgeons (now coroner), should be able to tell what kind of weapon made the stab wounds.

Beagle # 67,

No doubt, we should have military units gaurding mosques.

Okay, Google News shows the block of text Charles posted as coming from The Australian, not news.com.au. Maybe the Lizardoid Master had several windows open and pasted the wrong URL. See here:

Israeli man stabbed to death

Charles,

Earlier tonight I could not get to your site btw during the diggstorm. So, Digg was a good idea, I just can't stand the joint personally.

Yes, Journalism School..

I've thought this too..

#50 Amalie

LOL! "Raise awareness" of masturbation?! Londoners must have really short arms.

The George Soros School Of Journalism

Orientation being held at 1:00 PM at the Joseph P. Biden Pavilion

"The motivation in relation to this incident is unknown at this stage," Supt Walton said.

"We are very open minded but there is nothing in relation to information or evidence that it is connected to this man's nationality or religious background."

73 Beagle

Yes.. I noticed that too...

LOL ~

*when we go to the school of journalism we can take a course on innuendo..

#46 cbinflux

still haven't added the thread's subject, , which I posted in the last thread.

Ooops . . . missed your comment in the last thread, otherwise I would have responded. Thanks. ;)

Way past my bedtime here. . . but it's been quite an interesting evening. Nite all.

Amalie 74,

Good one. Educated.

Hey jehu ! Lemme know when you get that new constitution finished. We get to vote on that, or is that gone, too ?

Alright, who get's the back of my hand for stretching the thread out? (Or is it just me?)

no pun intended

#70 tasty
That same block was at monstersandcritics; posted it last thread.

Probably from the Vegemite wires.

Debate 101
Instructor: Master Debater John Forbes Kerry

Mike C,

You can wear the constitution as a fucking hat if islam is ever victorious. Pirate style or baseball cap. It dont matta.

Thanks Murgtaad

#80 Salem
It must be just you.

OT
A moment of silence...
4-time Iditarod champ Susan Butcher dies

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

How awesome she was!

Murq 54

Yeah...I know em well. And I know what motivates them. It is fear and unbelief, although they project that upon others. Simply put, this great battle we are entering is not just military, political, or about religions. As man is a triune being (Body, Soul, Spirit), this final great conflict is to bring those that are willing to spiritual maturity. We cannot overcome this enemy by physical greatness alone. We must engage the totality of what a human being is, and what we are to become.

This battle requires a spiritual focus and a real faith in God, it requires intellectual honesty, and it requires that we speak the truth. No false hope will succeed. We must see evil for what it is, and then seek the relationship to God that will give us His strength to stand against this evil.

He will give us the wisdom and force to stop this darkness that would destroy all mankind. Those that refuse a relationship with God in this time...will become prey to the spirit behind Islam, no matter how strong they think they are.

For it is the spirit of Western nations that has been rotted to the core so that even though they have the physical power and military strength to make short work of all the Islamic nations on the earth, they instead sucumb, appease and act as if they have already lost.

God told us all that a time would come when all men on the earth will have to choose, will have to act. Even as our world wars were dress rehersals for millions...to choose. The German that watched his Jewish neighbor taken away by the SS...he made a choice at that time. Even as the SS soldier had made his choice. The difference now, is these moral dilemas will be universal upon humanity...not just here or there. Not just in Rwanda, or the Sudan, or in Iraq, or Israel. It will be everywhere, and it is accelerating faster than I ever thought possible.

or you can wear it at yer funeral as a death shroud.....

Slow. Suicide. Stimulas. Right? Wouldn't wanna rewrite the constitution and piss off some dead guys from 230 years ago, would we?

# 84 Murqtad

That's okay - destroy the very foundations of America and I'll effing join up to help them.

Jehu,

Yeah...I know em well. And I know what motivates them. It is fear and unbelief, although they project that upon others.

Sounds familiar..... almost islamic, dont it?

# 89 Murg

You want to re-write it ? By all means, have at it. It's perfectly legal to do so, and there's even a well-established procedure to follow. Good luck !

mike c,

# 84 Murqtad

That's okay - destroy the very foundations of America and I'll effing join up to help them.

you already are, you document worshipping jackass.

88 jehu

This battle requires a spiritual focus and a real faith in God, it requires intellectual honesty, and it requires that we speak the truth

Since you mentioned "intellectual honesty" then I am going to give my opinion on your post.

You are laying the ground rules, that one has to have a real faith in God in order to succeed in this struggle. One's faith in God is personal and not for your consumption. You are going to have to learn how to trust and have faith in those of us that are just as brave as you are and just as willing as you to put an end to the scourge of Islamists but do not trot out our faith nor wear it on our sleeve.

92 Mike C,

You want to re-write it ?

Do you wanna die by it? You wont offend anyone that way.....

Melenie Phillips is on C-Span 2 right now talknig about her book. Londonstan. Its almost over now. Very Interesting.

Damn, is the sky falling again?

/I thought it already fell last week

Has CAIR reacted to this attack with a frantic statement warning of outbreaks of islamophobia?

Killian,

Sky aint fallin....

Hyperbole is for arabs, dont join their ranks.

Mike C

I'll put my faith in God, you put yours in some documents that had no ability to anticipate the virus we let into our midst. A Constitution that is now riddled with holes and twisted nearly beyond recognition by liberal lawyers.

Should there even be any discussion about the 2nd ammendment? Why any restrictions? How can cites ban gun ownership? The list is endless, including liberals discerning auras in the documents.

Not to mention cities can now take your property if they can get a better tax deal. You are living in a dream world if you think that document is protecting anything, other than the rights of crimnals, pedophiles and a relgion sworn to finish off what is left.

How do you react to police department after police department that rushes to placate Muslims...after someone from their community commits mayhem and murder? This is not isolated behaviors, but established patterns.

Stop fighting me, and start fighting the enemy of us all, and get rid of all the rules you think we must have for ourselves, but none for our enemies.

We no longer have leaders that even understand what is happening to this country, let alone taking steps for its protection. Our choices are someone like Bush, a good man, but seemingly ignorant of history. Or ruthlessly ambitious venal men like Gore or Kerry.

The cadet cops can only look for the carload of men in a green Mitsubishi Pajero with NSW registration SVJ 201 until 11 pm. You see.. they're on restriction curfew for partying too hard lately.
[Link: www.news.com.au...]
And the good citizens of Oz are virtually forbidden to defend themselves.
Lights out as cop curfew kicks in

/God help us all

#99 Murqtaad

Sky aint fallin....

Then stop shrieking.

/we're winning this war

And the great document war raged on for generations...

2 Kevin V-- this makes me mad as the govt could put an end to it if they'd really do a crack down and arrest and charge andtry these f*cks, and protect the population.
we are faced with the same thing here. The Police chief of Seattle says that mosques will be protected and I ask against whom you asshole...?

Killian,

Then stop shrieking.

/we're winning this war

Who is shriekin?

Is agreeing with jehu shrieking?

Or is going against that hypocrite Mike C., who is making money off of totalitarian regimes by telling them where to drill holes in rocks, shrieking?

Tell you what, go hang with the crew at alphabet soup and dis Charles and this blog.

We are the government. IF you do not like what your representatives are doing, replace them. Run for office. Support people that share your views. Take back what is yours.

Amalie 94

You are laying the ground rules, that one has to have a real faith in God in order to succeed in this struggle.

I did't lay down any rules, I just know how to read and discern what is coming by what has been. You do know Islam has tried to destroy the West (Christianity) twice in the past?

You know that Europe is going under? And they are going under because they lost their faith...they are apostate. And Islam has a spiritual force. If you do not have a greater spiritual force then you will lose. To me it is an equation, emotion, loyalty to dead documents, love of America, belief that we are the good guys. None of that will prevail. Either you find a spiritual force grater than Islam or you do not. America gets one better chance than Europe. We get to watch as they go under, and we either figure it out, or go the same way. Or do you think we are special?

One's faith in God is personal and not for your consumption.

And yet we are up against something that will make sure your faith will be public and rigidly observed, until it has killed your soul. Everyone will have to make their own decisions and figure out what will work. I offer what I think works, and what we are up against. If you think our government, military, or some great leader is going to come on the scene and reverse 40 years of political correctness, and a pre-conditioned response to villify our own culture, while exonerating the one that wants to kill us, then you already have greater faith than me, just in something else.

You are going to have to learn how to trust and have faith in those of us that are just as brave as you are and just as willing as you to put an end to the scourge of Islamists but do not trot out our faith nor wear it on our sleeve.

Are you kidding me or yourself? You cannot even talk on this blog, or suggest what we will probably HAVE to do eventually if we are to win against Islam, without a frenzied hysteria that someone broke into the National Archives and let the Constitution on fire. And this blog is cutting edge in taking on the Islamist threat. If we cannot even entertain ideas here of starting a debate that Islame is NOT a religion, and so should not be protected by our founding documents, do you think it can be suggested by those in power? That is why many of us believe we will not act until we are hit again, and hit hard, because too many are wedded to an Idea of the perfection of our government and society, something shown everyday to be failing in this battle.

O yeah and people better get over the prissy germ-washing fetish of ignoring our spirituality in the public square. It is political correctness that has disarmed the West from its weapons and faith.

#105 Murqtaad

Tell you what, go hang with the crew at alphabet soup and dis Charles and this blog.

Why on earth would I want to do that and what does it have to do with anything?

/the Imam isn't going to pop out of the well on the 22nd, [bigoted word]s talk a lot of smack but, in modern history, they've proven to be nothing but pathetic losers

Jehu

You are mistaken. It has been discussed here over and over, ad nauseam, that Islam is not a religion but a cult formed by a pedophile.

What you seem to be disregarding is the American spirit. If you think this was this the only dark days in our history then you are wrong. Over two million of our men died in our own Civil War. We suffered through the Great Depression, we went and fought two World Wars. We will prevail in this fight whereas you have us already losing.

I see Mike has moved his "kofi Annan act" upstairs in the past 15 minutes. The coward. I'm gonna sleep. Jehu, keep tellin the real. Frauds sorround us.

110 comments here and nobody had submitted a "digg" .
ARRRGGH.
try this

killian,

/the Imam isn't going to pop out of the well on the 22nd, [bigoted word]s talk a lot of smack but, in modern history, they've proven to be nothing but pathetic losers

And I agree! WTF gives you any other idea? I want to defeat these clowns, hard and fast. You moderates are the ones who think we can daydream these thugs out of existence.

Pathetic, you preach our superiority, but don't want it unleashed. Like this problem can be negotiated.

Bah!

G'nite

A Jewish chapel at a cemetary was destroyed tonight in Los Angeles (near Lake Terrace?) Cops calling it a hate crime, but not sure it has anything to do with the wave of anti-semitism sweeping the world today. D'uh!

Meanwhile I can't find the news anywhere other than where I heard it on Fox local news.

What it is to be a Jew, eh? Always the same thing and never expected to respond. If you cut him, does he not bleed? In the face of cowardly Muslim aggression, may God protect His people Israel.

Amalie 109

Us losing? No, like I said, I read the last chapter, we win, however, I think it is up to us at what cost. We have faced dark days, our Civil War probably the darkess, it also came at a time of the greatest spiritual revival in our history under Charles G Finney.

Finney was not allowed to preach south of the Mason-Dixon line. And you could surmise that the battle lines were drawn in the 1840's when the men of the South, rejected spiritual truth.

We overcame a great evil in our midst by the sheddeing of much blood. And our spirituality was greater at that time. Even Lincoln recognized that faith and the agitation from the revival of the second great awakening drove the spirtual side of that war. When he met the author of Uncle Tom's Cabin (Harriet Beecher Stowe), he said, "Are you the little woman that started so great a war?"

She was a woman of great faith. And Lincoln also recognized the judgements of God upon nations. He said, (from memory) "For all the blood shed by the lash, there must be a corresponding shedding of blood to purge the nation of this great iniquity."

This is the component utterly missing in Europe, and finding an ever more hostile atmosphere in America. As far as the tone of what I post, I don't consider myself a prophet, but I am aware that all the false prophets in the Bible counseled peace and safety, when God counseled war. They also counseled victory to Israeli Kings...when instead they were defeated in their next battles.

It is human nature to cling to the last to hope. But it is a false hope if we do not understand the full nature of what we are facing. Have you noted that many of those that oppose my ideas here are atheists, or agnostics? And they have a vested interest in minimizing or even denying the spiritual side of this conflict.

#112 Murqtaad

You moderates are the ones who think we can daydream these thugs out of existence.

Pathetic, you preach our superiority, but don't want it unleashed. Like this problem can be negotiated.

You obviously haven't read very many of my comments.

/I'm hardly a moderate and have neen touting coomprehensive Itanian airstrikes for at least the last year

jehu

It is human nature to cling to the last to hope. But it is a false hope if we do not understand the full nature of what we are facing. Have you noted that many of those that oppose my ideas here are atheists, or agnostics? And they have a vested interest in minimizing or even denying the spiritual side of this conflict.

Because again, you drew up the ground rules by proclaiming that only those who are "spiritual" are going to be the ones who will win this fight.

117 Killian

Are you a Moderate?

109 Amalee

Jehu

You are mistaken. It has been discussed here over and over, ad nauseam, that Islam is not a religion but a cult formed by a pedophile.

Fun is made of Islam here, much disgust is sounded here by all. But cross the line by speaking of what we MUST eventually do and a certain group will attack you more viciously than the actual enemy.

All this under the guise of preserving centuries old documents with an inflexability and rigid doctrine that would make Pharisees jealous. They smell like people that do not have faith in a living God, but in the writings of man, as if those writings are the magic, but it was the relationship to God of the founders and the Pilgrims that first came here that was the magic.

And the begining is for a discussion to break out in America beyond this blog that Islam is not to be protected by our founding documents. I would use the precedent that we outlawed Nazism in Germany...strangely still allowing it here.

I thought we were fascist oppressor occupiers..

Jehu,

There were many people fighting on both sides in the Civil War of tremendous faith. Stonewall Jackson, for example, was thought by his troops to be somewhat insane because of his fervant religious beliefs.

I wonder if the South had won if we would be attributing it to their beliefs in God. Obviously, the winner writes the histories.

120 jehu

You seem to know a lot about religion and prophets. So tell me, did the prophets have an easy time of it? Did people believe them right away and do what they said?

Amalee 118

Because again, you drew up the ground rules by proclaiming that only those who are "spiritual" are going to be the ones who will win this fight.

Aside from the book or Revelations you're right, we don't need God's help, sorry to disturb you.

#119 Amalie

Are you a Moderate?

That would be no, not even a Mod.

/and the 5 million Muslims in the U.S., give or atke a few million, don't have a snowball's chance in Hell of taking over this country, they're good at spreading bull[expletive deleted], but that's about it

I live in Sydney and I don't believe in coincidences. There has been the normal media comment saying that there is nothing to suggest this is a racial antisemitic attack by muslims. But the truth will out.

Self hating Jews who deny their cultural roots and religion had better take note. To the bacteria, we're all Jews. Just like in the 1930s when the ever so German Jewish Reform movement was led to the same gas chambers as the ultra orthodox. Trying to appease those who hate us didn't work then and it won't work now.

All Jews are now in the front line of the war that islamonazism is waging on civilised sociteties everywhere. We should all be talking to our governments and telling them that our votes are attached to a committment to rid Austalia (and other western societies) of islamofilth trash. when they get violent they get out and aren't allowed back. That is the solution, together with a will to fight this scum like Israel is now doing.

124 Jehu

Welcome to Prophet world...

gonzo 122

Jehu,

There were many people fighting on both sides in the Civil War of tremendous faith. Stonewall Jackson, for example, was thought by his troops to be somewhat insane because of his fervant religious beliefs.

Who was it that said, "Never did so many noble men fight for such a dispicable cause."

I think it was Grant.

Sure many of those in the South had faith and loved God. However, faith is not enough, nor blind obedience. You must know the voice of God yourself. And there has to be self-deception on men that could still enslave their fellow men.

Especially if you were familiar with the Bible and recognized it is a book of the work of God among men for the progression of freedom. Physical, the soul, and our spirits. God is all about freedom, not just for its own sake, but that you may be free to choose of your own will to love God or not.

Do we not even now see about 50% of the population of this country under deception? We call them moonbats. And are astonished at their vicious hatred for Bush, a man they neither know, nor who effects their lives in any practical matter. And who have so little love in their hearts they care less that brutal dictators enslave billions on the earth, nor will the lift a finger to free the Billion under a savage darkness hardly to be belived, all in the lying proclomation that they detest war.

125 Killian

I feel like Goldilocks..

The porridge is too hot
too cold
and never just right..

Crickey Jehu..

Do you ever relax? Do you ever take the time to enjoy this life without worry?

Killian 125

/and the 5 million Muslims in the U.S., give or atke a few million, don't have a snowball's chance in Hell of taking over this country, they're good at spreading bull[expletive deleted], but that's about it

For your generation, maybe. But it is not just about them, it is about the LLL's using them as a battering ram to destroy even more freedoms. Just imagine what it was like to fly before 9/11. Now because of Islam, AND the madness of Political Correctness we search old ladies at airports. And that is just one example of decreasing freedom. Wait until you get a Mosque in YOUR neigborhood and they push having the call to pray go our on loudspeakers 5 times a day. You think the ACLU will not be there on their knees servicing every request?

jehu,

Two saying Pop taught me:

"'Can't' got killed in the Civil War."

"The ass pays for what the head didn't think of."

#129 Amalie

I feel like Goldilocks..

The porridge is too hot
too cold
and never just right..

Life is an adventure.

At the top of the stairs, theirs hundreds of people,
Running around to all the doors.
They try to find themselves an audience;
Their deductions need applause.

The rich man stands in front of me,
The poor man behind my back.
They believe they can control the game,
But the juggler holds another pack.

I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.
I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.

I'd rather trust a countryman than a townman,
You can judge by his eyes, take a look if you can,
Hell smile through his guard,
Survival trains hard.
I'd rather trust a man who works with his hands,
He looks at you once, you know he understands,
Dont need any shield,
When youre out in the field.

But down here,
Im so alone with my fear,
With everything that I hear.
And every single door, that Ive walked through
Brings me back here again,
Ive got to find my own way.

The priest and the magician,
Singing all the chants that they have ever heard;
Theyre all calling out my name,
Even academics, searching printed word.

My father to the left of me,
My mother to the right,
Like everyone else theyer pointing
But nowhere feels quite right.

And I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.
I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.

Id rather trust a man who doesnt shout what hes found,
Theres no need to sell if youre homeward bound.
If I chose a side,
He won't take me for a ride.

Back inside
This chamber of so many doors;
Ive nowhere to hide.
I'd give you all of my dreams, if you'd help me,
Find a door
That doesnt lead me back again take me away.

/Genesis/The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Chamber Of 32 Doors

132 rapp

Your pop should know, he was a general.

133 Killian

Life.. is an adventure..

/thanks for the lyrics

Amalie 123

120 jehu

You seem to know a lot about religion and prophets. So tell me, did the prophets have an easy time of it? Did people believe them right away and do what they said?

The only time they were not imprisioning the prophets or killing them (Isiah was put into a hollow tree and sawed in half) was under good Kings. David could even be confronted by a prophet for his sin with Basheeba. And that in the days when Kings were absolute rulers, he could have killed the prophet on the spot. Instead we get Psalm 51.

God is not into humoring people about their fantasies or wishes. Honestly, I think we are fantasizing about what Islam is and the actual threat. Funny observation Christ made. He said your fathers killed the prophets and you then build monuments to those same prophets.

In other words, nobody likes prophets, nor recognizes them when they are alive, but later they see the wisdom, and the children of those that killed the prophets build monuments to those prophets.

Christ told them if a living prophet came into our midst, you would kill them just like your fathers did. Do you know what they did then? They picked up stones to kill him.

I took from the story of David, that authority (governments) will become perverted unless they listen to the prophets, instead of killing them. Beware of governments that kill or become hostile to spiritual men.

Our country was founded by men...that if alive today would be reviled. But we make monuments to them.

jehu

It's not your message, it's your tone. Those who will, in this struggle, choose the side of Rightiousness will do so in their own time without your prodding and looking down your nose at them.

The irony is, I agree with you, probably over 90%: I call the phenomenon you mentioned "The Shysterization and Pigification of America." From this you can see that I'm firmly in the libertarian/Constitution in Exile camp. Heck, I believe the only entity entitled to a percentage of a man's income is G-d, and that any government that taxes your income is stealing money from G-d, and is illigitimate on it's face. I don't, however, go around pushing for it's overthrow. Good and bad ideas spread virally, according to the spiritual disposition of the recievers, and those on the spiritual "losing team" can be salvaged by exposure to enough of the right ideas. Browbeating them from an assumed morally superior stance, however, won't do the trick. See?

I've studied the Bible extensively: I've studied out of every English translation of it, and read most of them cover to cover - some several times. Also in my library - and noggin - are commentaries from several denominations. IOW, I sorta/kinda have at least a tenuous grasp of what is unfolding here.

So, just put down the bullhorn, climb down off of the soapbox, and join the rest of us, m-kay?

Seems to me the vast majority of posters here are headed in the right direction spirtiually, or I wouldn't have registered.

Time for a little Pax Americana... baby.

136 jehu

This is why I asked you.

In other words, nobody likes prophets, nor recognizes them when they are alive, but later they see the wisdom, and the children of those that killed the prophets build monuments to those prophets.

You answered your own question from earlier.

Police are now saying that they are at a loss for a motive, seems NSW police have been taking lessons from Canadian police.

Amalie

Crickey Jehu..

Do you ever relax? Do you ever take the time to enjoy this life without worry?

I'm not worried at all, at least not for myself, and I will not be around so much longer, but I would like to see the U.S. go on. I would like to see us lead the way to all the new and great stuff that could come to pass, if we did not have to spend all our energy fighting one ism after another.

I am a Science Fiction fan, and would like to see us go into space, terraform planets, maybe find a way to travel faster than light, stuff like that. Certainly we are probably on the verge of discovering how to slow down, or even stop aging. How to grow organs, create new kinds of life. Microbiology will be bigger in the next century than electronics was in this last one.

Instead we FIRST have to deal with this piss-ant evil crap. Something stupid about evil.

#131 jehu

For your generation, maybe. But it is not just about them, it is about the LLL's using them as a battering ram to destroy even more freedoms. Just imagine what it was like to fly before 9/11. Now because of Islam, AND the madness of Political Correctness we search old ladies at airports.

Well, we're at war, obviously our security posture has changed and for good reason. Seriously, just what freedoms have been destroyed?

/Spanish will be the national language long before Islam is the law of the land

Huchbald 137

Good and bad ideas spread virally, according to the spiritual disposition of the recievers, and those on the spiritual "losing team" can be salvaged by exposure to enough of the right ideas. Browbeating them from an assumed morally superior stance, however, won't do the trick. See?

Well how is anyone going to receive anything if nobody says anything about it? Would you teach math by never talking of numbers?

Stick around and see who does the browbeating here. You will see the side that I am talking about becomes unhinged and vicious, repeatedly calling for the banning of those with whom they disagree.

And why is everyone so terrified of speaking to the spirit side of things?

Doesn't matter how it is said, you will be accused of browbeating, or being fanatical, or religious. It is like anyone that counsels righteoussness will always be accused of being self-righteouss, as if it is not possible for any other kind to exist.

jehu,

i know this is filed under "DUH!", but folks who don't like your tone or message can just scroll and ignore you, rather than try to manipulate you into acting in a fashion more palatable to them.

in other words, keep on keepin' on, dude!

141 Killian Bundy

Well, we're at war, obviously our security posture has changed and for good reason. Seriously, just what freedoms have been destroyed?

Small things here and there. But I do not begrudge some steps taken for security, I do begrudge the steps taken with Polictical Correctness as the foremost concern. And others totally ignored (secure our borders) for no adequate reason I can understand.

I fly a lot, so I am always annoyed when they search everybody boarding planes, instead of men of Middle Easterm appearance. It was not Calif surfer dudes that destroyed the WTC.

I must wear a badge now to get into my office, and so does nearly everyone else...that did not exist, except in some DoD contractor sites before 9/11/ I watched CAIR make the number 1 talk show host in the morning in L.A. apologize for insulting Islam. Many other little encroachments upon our freedom and speech.

/Spanish will be the national language long before Islam is the law of the land

Are you trying to cheer me up? :-) Can't argue that. In fact in some places in S. Calif I think I am in Mexico.

rapp

Thanks...and I will of course.

It is because we have free will that evil exists amongst us. Evil always has been and always will be. It is also that same free will that allows for people such as our current Islamist enemies to claim they are on the side of God.

The argument being made that we are the righteous is the same argument made by them. Should we prevail, it is because of our rationality in the face of religious zealoutry, not because we "out-righteoused" them.

The beauty of the founding documents are that while our forefathers recognized the presence of God in their lives, they did not create a document contingent upon belief in Him to set the wheel in motion for the birth of the nation. The ability of the constitution to morph and change is what allows for the growth of the nation. To argue it is holding us back from our abilities to prosecute our war against Islam is simply not true. It is following the precepts of the constitution that sets us apart from our enemies. And while it certainly creates a tremendously high threshold for our conduct, it also allows those who are more secular in nature to join with those who are more religious. Secular folks who fear the influence of religion on the growth of the nation can fall back on the same documents which support those who have religion. The constitution is not the problem here.

And while our enemies do exploit our freedoms against us- taking advantage of the system, so to speak, I can't see scrapping the system because of that and certainly have not seen an argument I can agree with regarding a solution to that particular challenge outside of following the guidelines for ammending the constitution.

All European Life Died In Auschwitz by Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez

I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth -- Europe died in Auschwitz.

We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world.

These are the people we burned.

And under the pretence of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime. Holed up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition. We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for hoping for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.

Certainly we are probably on the verge of discovering how to slow down, or even stop aging. How to grow organs, create new kinds of life. Microbiology will be bigger in the next century than electronics was in this last one.

Instead we FIRST have to deal with this piss-ant evil crap. Something stupid about evil.

My feelings exactly.

Children being born today have the chance to live, not forever, but far longer and far brighter lives than any previous generationcould hope for. If they don't get killed by evil morons first.

Jehu

Do you think that America's official secularism based on the constitution, is a liability in the fight against Islam?

Generally those who teach Arabic or Islam at University, become apologists or propagandists for Islam.

This letter is most unusual.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

or

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

gonzo wrote:

"Should we prevail, it is because of our rationality in the face of religious zealoutry (sic), not because we "out-righteoused" them."

Technically, you are incorrect. The "those who are not for us are against us, and those who are not against us are for us" clause brings the righteous unbeliever into the tent, and it also throws the unrighteous believer out (I'm thinking of the religious groups who side with the ACLU and Peeps for the Soviet Way, such as Christians United for the Separation of Church and State).

Just reading the story now, Sunday morning, Eastcoast and here's what I read:

Superintendent Mark Walton said detectives were trying to establish a motive but said it was not connected with the conflict in Lebanon between Israel and Hezbollah.

Have they tweaked it?

#149 DP111

Do you think that America's official secularism based on the constitution, is a liability in the fight against Islam?

First off, there is nothing in the US Constitution which allows the likes of the ACLU and the political and general left in America, to infringe on the practice and participation of any religion in America, with the lone exceptions of islam, and the Church of Satan!

In California schools, islam is shoved down the throats of children, who are forced to take an islamic name for several weeks, while they study the "religion of pieces", right out of the quran, in government funded classrooms.

The Constitution SPECIFICLY forbides the government, from creating a "state sanctioned religion", such as the religion that was left behind in Europe, when patriots broke free of Europe.

The US Constitution SPECIFICLY forbides government from interfering with the practice of religion also, period!

At least it did at one time, and it most certainly is supposed to guarentee the ability of anyone, to practice the faith that they choose.

Those days are over.

It won't be too many years, if that, before the US Constitution will be trumped by some kind of U.N. "One world government".

Our country's inability to follow the US Constitution, period, not only impedes the fight against islamofascist terrorism, but it will be the singular reason that America ceases to exist, the way we know it, or used to know it.

There are going to be an awful lot of shocked people one day, because in hindsight, they'll be able to see the problem, and won't be able to do a thing about it, except to move along, with the "One world order".

Then they'll truly wish that they could go back, and do things differently, but it will be too late.

Shhhh I sure hope the authorities don't tell us
that the perpetrators were all angry Muslim men.

We don't want to know!
We can't handle the truth; and most of all we don't want to offend the sacred ROP community.
/

This story makes me sick to my stomach.

Superintendent Mark Walton said detectives were trying to establish a motive but said it was not connected with the conflict in Lebanon between Israel and Hezbollah.

I was just wondering why, if detectives have no information at all concerning a motive, they have ruled out the most obvious motive. Or did the reporter get it wrong? There is a big difference between saying that they have no evidence concerning a motive, including no evidence that it was connected with the Hizballah conflict, versus announcing flat out that it was not connected with the Hizballah conflict. If they take that possibility off the table right at the start, they may not be able to find the perpetrators nor get any leads that would help reveal the perpetrators.

Why are they handicapping themselves right at the outset of this investigation?

I think we need to realise that immigration of muslims was and is a terrible mistake and change public discourse to consider the propect of changing that.

From the same paper

It is believed he had lived in Australia for three years and had applied for permanent residency.
"He was a very, very nice guy, he was a bit of a go-getter, he knew what he wanted," friend Gary Levine told Ten News.
"I think he was going to go far, this is a total shock."

vs.

a friend said Hernan had confided in him that he was mixed up with "money and drugs".
The friend told The Daily Telegraph that he and others had tried to convince him to "go straight".

He said the incident did appear to be related to the conflict in Lebanon.

Just some peaceful muslims I bet.

153 republic

Thanks for the reply. I'm aware that Muslims are being granted special dispensation in America's schools and universities. I commented on this a couple of years ago.

The thoughts Jehu put on this thread, have been with me for sometime now. With his knowledge and interpretation of the Bible, far exceeding mine, he believes that we need again to wear the armour of righteous spitituality, to truly fight the satanic creed that is islam. There are a couple on this side of the pond, Rev Alan Clifford for one, who think the same.

Update: An Israeli has been charged for the with the man’s murder.

Nothing to see here.

#162 - an Israeli 'national' has been charged.

Israeli charged over Israeli killing

An Israeli national has been charged with the murder of a Israeli man in Bondi on Saturday night, police say.

Hernan Guelman, 36, died after he was allegedly beaten and stabbed in the back and stomach by a gang outside a shop on the corner of Glenayr Avenue and Beach Road about 9.45pm Saturday.

A 31-year-old Israeli national living in Vaucluse handed himself into Bondi police station about 7.45 last night, police said.

[Link: www.smh.com.au...]

CHARLES AND GANG -

The article must have been edited since first published.
They took out all the quotes Charles has up top namely this is not there anymore -

Mr Alhadeff said members of the Jewish community called him last night with details of the incident. “Word came back to us last night from people in the area who saw it and found out that the man was an Israeli,” he told AAP. “There was a car load of people who stopped and they got out and they assaulted him pretty brutally and some of them were hitting him with a pole or something and there was multiple stabs.”

WHY WOULD THEY TAKE THAT OUT? LOL!

Mike