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 RetweetAnother Fraudulent Adnan Hajj Photo

Sun, Aug 6, 2006 at 5:52:38 pm PDT

Rusty Shackleford has done an analysis on another Adnan Hajj photograph, discovering more absolutely conclusive evidence of fraud in a picture that purports to be of an Israeli jet firing missiles into Lebanon: Another Fake Reuters Photo from Lebanon.

LGF readers have been tirelessly digging into this and other photos, and reader Middle-Earth provides this picture with the copied sections highlighted.

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1 hithere  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 3:54:58pm

Why am I not surprised?

2 Percopius  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 3:55:03pm

those are flares, counter measures.

3 freya4freedom  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 3:55:34pm

Heh™!

4 flipflop  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 3:55:44pm

This guy just loves to screw around with smoke pictures, doesn't he?

5 Blackacre  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 3:55:45pm

Busted. Again.

Photoshop killed the agitprop star.

6 flipflop  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 3:57:30pm

#5 blackacre

I still think that needs to be a rotating title.

7 Canadian Infidel  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 3:59:39pm

I'm thinking this guy's next career will be photographing mass weddings. There will only be one actual couple getting married, but it will look like a mass wedding.

OT - Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper is on C-Span in a few minutes. He may not visit this site, but he's a lizard. You may want to see your newest ally.

Canadian Infidel

8 Slowking Man  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:00:18pm

Beats me if anyone's posted this in another thread, but Cox & Forkum have a new comic up on Reutergate (or Stringergate, Photogate, what have you). I think Photogate sounds kind of catchy, myself.

I wonder if Reuters will still stick to its guns over not reviewing any more of Hajj's art.

9 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:00:27pm

Pardon my ignorance but what was altered? Missiles? How do you know?

10 balishak  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:03:15pm

What an obvious fake. Again, I am not a graphics guy, not an aeronautical engineer, or anything like that. But I spotted that right away, figured he took the still from a movie or something.
But I urge caution among the lizards...
Don't start a witch hunt here, and we have to make sure we are factually right before we go crazy on these propogandists, since the one time we are provably wrong, that will undo everything good that's been done.

11 Silhouette  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:03:43pm

Well, given the Reuters employee from IP whatever (Bunglawala?) was "suspended" for the death threat and now Adnan is released, who next at Reuters will fall to the little green football pink slip?

The editor who okayed Adnan's work?

12 NTropy  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:04:22pm

Didn't the LA Times have to fire somebody not too long ago fo much the same thing? Wonder if that was also an al-Reuters guy too. LGF is too busy right now to do a search.

13 hous bin pharteen  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:04:26pm

Why is every body getting upset at Al- Reuters?

I mean, what would you expect from a fake news organization but fake pictures?

14 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:05:08pm

Damn, you already got the guy fired. Don't you think all this gratuitous piling on and kicking him when he's down is just a bit much?

/*snort*

15 RepJ  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:05:16pm

There seems to only be one reason for altering this photo in such a way... more shock effect.

16 Percopius  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:05:30pm

Those are flares, not missles. The full photo shows the bombs the f-16 is dropping.

17 barryg  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:05:44pm

At this point there is no doubt that every single picture he took was either staged, faked, or otherwise a lie. The question is his motive. Does he work for Hezbollah? Is he on the payroll of the Democratic Party? Is he a Shitty muslim, or Sunni?

Reuters better start providing answers or there are going to be demonstrations.

18 FriarsTale  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:06:29pm

#5 I like it

folks, let's hear it for freedom of speech, the power of the internet, and the ingenuity of the American people

put your hands together for Charles, and for all the great new breed of investigative bloggers: challenging the status quo of Big Lib Propaganda

19 Model4  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:06:35pm

I thought flares too, but what are the objects below the plane? Bombs? Chaff clouds (another form of countermeasure)?

At any rate, missles fly *ahead* of the firing plane, no? It's possible some could drop off, fall behind, and the engine then kick in, but I don't think that kind of missle is used on fighters. Any word from our pros?

20 J.D.  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:06:56pm

Good grief.

al-Reuters has a lot more explaining to do! Let's get it on, al-Reuters.
NOW!

21 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:07:00pm

You've got it all wrong! That's Lebanon's (faked) version of a synchronized flying team. Their own Green Turkeys.

22 LoafingOaf  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:07:37pm

MandyManners:

Pardon my ignorance but what was altered? Missiles? How do you know?

Click on the link provided and it is explained at the other blog.

It looks pretty clearly to be a fake to me.

I'd say I'm outraged, except none of this surprises me. We need to go hard after Reuters and all these MSM clowns and demand they respond, explain themselves, and correct themselves. We're having a laugh at the MSM's expense, but this is also a rather serious matter and the MSM has got to be cleaned up. Bunch of idiotic dupes for terrorists is what they are.

23 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:08:21pm

#2 Percopius

those are flares, counter measures.


This has been floating around for the past 24 hours. I'm a military idiot, but when I googled aircraft countermeasures I find pics this this...
Countermeasures Dispenser System
and this...
Flare Decoys on Military Aircraft

Notice in both pics the flares are much slower and fall much fall much faster that the aircraft itself. I think that's part of the purpose; to draw the heat seaking missiles away from the aircraft. In the Adnan Hajj pic above the flares are traveling at pretty much the same speed and trajectory of the aircraft.

24 DockScience  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:09:28pm

MSM counter on waiting to report this fraud is still running... one day and not a peep.

25 shug  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:10:35pm

Hellooo,

he was just removing dust again!

sheesh

26 Silhouette  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:11:08pm

Well, given the Reuters employee from IP whatever (Bunglawala?) was "suspended" for the death threat and now Adnan is released, who next at Reuters will fall to the little green football pink slip?

The editor who okayed Adnan's work?

27 Windhorse  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:11:49pm

There is a line in the animated movie "Aladdin" and I cannot remember the exact context but Aladdin was fleeing the evil sorcerer on his magic rug and the sorceror was chasing him and simultaneously unraveling the rug on which Aladdin was sitting. The sorcerer makes the statement "Things are unraveling fast now rug boy!"

Hey Reuters - if the rug fits - wear it...

28 NTropy  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:11:51pm

The mere fact that al-Reuters got caught even once now introduces an element of doubt to any of their photos now.

29 crash_test_dhimmi  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:12:58pm

Maybe the middle eastern journalism schools have a "Fake but Accurate 101"...

It could have been worse, they could have photoshopped the Israeli pilot in black face like they did with Lieberman

30 sngnsgt  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:12:58pm

test

31 Blackacre  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:13:11pm

#6 - flipflop:

#5 blackacre

I still think that needs to be a rotating title.

Thanks. We'll have to speak to the boss. Charles?

32 sss111  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:15:21pm

Ah...turning 1 flare into 3 missiles...an excvellent example (as I posted in another thread) of

Reutering™ of photos!

Reutering = manipulation of photos to encourage killing of Jews.

Perhaps a Wikipedia entry is warranted.

33 Silhouette  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:16:31pm

This is important as refutation of the argument he was just cleaning dust, simple mistake, low light.

Reuters must admit now that the photoshopping was intentional.

Intentional is a word we use a lot around here, yes?

34 Percopius  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:17:18pm

#23

Do you see the body of the missles? I don't. The flares are maybe less than a second old to two seconds I guess. Thats why they are so close in the photo. Also, I don't think he ripple launched 2 or 4 hellfires maybe a half a second apart. Look at the full photo, there appears to be some 500 or 250 pound bombs falling away from the plane.

I could be wrong, but I bet I'm not.

35 bbev  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:18:08pm

that one was to easy, A simple cut and paste overlay and it all lines up.

36 republic  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:19:08pm

Besides this asshat from al-rueters, just think, there are thousands of photographers who are probably doing much the same, in order to try and sell their product.

Who knows how far reaching this scandal may be.

Imagine, with all that has been going on over the last 6 years or so, how much of what al-rueters, al-A.P., and other organizations, have contributed to the deception going on around the world.

I hope that there are very serious looks into many pictures which have been circulating for the past 6 years or so in the leftist kook msm, to see if there are others, like this deception!

And now, as we see with the previous thread, it isn't just pictures, but Rueters articles as well, which are spun with premeditated deception, or, an outright premeditated lie, by Rueters.

Who knows what we might be into.

37 RickZ  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:21:07pm

# 9 Mandy Manners:

Pardon my ignorance but what was altered? Missiles? How do you know?

No offense, but based upon this post, as well as your prior ones, are you a dumb blonde?

38 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:22:13pm

They look like spermatozoa.

39 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:23:51pm

Piss off, Rick. Only the truly stupid refuse to seek out answers.

40 Silhouette  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:23:52pm

Kathleen Carroll, AP's senior vice president and executive editor, on the Qana staged photos revealed by the blogs.

Carroll said in addition to personally speaking with photo editors, "I also know from 30 years of experience in this business that you can't get competitive journalists to participate in the kind of (staging) experience that is being described."

What is that 30 years (!) of experience telling you now, Katie? Still think you just cannot get journalists to participate in fakery?

Heh

41 galloping granny  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:23:58pm

I do wish that if people were going to photoshop pictures they would learn to do it correctly!

42 crosspatch  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:24:49pm

Yeah, it is one IR countermeasure flare that is copied twice more and told to the ignorant viewer that they are missiles.

If you are able to watch some footage from Fox sometime of helicopter or fixed wing operations over Lebanon, you will notice that the pilots launch one of these flares about every 5 seconds or so when over enemy territory.

What a load of crap. At this point we can't believe a darned thing coming out of that area because all this digging is going to do is make them be more careful about their alterations in the future. It is going to be a game of cat/mouse.

43 Max DarkSide  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:25:57pm

#24 DockScience

MSM counter on waiting to report this fraud is still running... one day and not a peep.

Who watches the watchers?

WE do...

44 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:26:21pm
45 macofromoc  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:26:26pm

when you see the larger version with the f 16 in the pic the plane is ahead of the "missles". nice touch. Leaded missles I guess.

46 tripletdad  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:26:54pm

It reminds me of when my teenage son says, "I'm telling you the truth, but I'm just enhancing it a little to make it interesting."

47 mich-again  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:28:45pm

OK, I think I found one. In this Reuter's picture of Condoleeza Rice, they have superimposed a very small man's face on her forehead, above her right eye. I can't tell who the face is..

Anyone else see that? And BTW, Condi-pictures have been photoshopped before. There was one about six months ago that gave her demon eyes by painting bright white around the pupils in her eyes.

48 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:28:48pm

His next picture.
[Link: i.today.reuters.com...]

Looks like two bombs hit, probably dropped from the same aircraft.

He dressed up his picture to look as though a SAM is about to hit the plane.

Israeli Jet crashes,
terrorists blew it from the sky.

That picture would have been worth thousands.

/but Dumb and Dumber didnt realize SAMS dont burn before they strike.

49 Windhorse  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:29:11pm

Back in Wisconsin... back some 30 years ago now... just North of Madison on Old State Highway #51... there was a little town called Deforest (sp?). As you drove down Hwy #51, you came to a County Road and a green sign with an arrow that pointed West that read "Deforest". If you looked West, about a mile or two away you could see a long row of big trees - say something like 130-FT tall Lombardi Poplars or something similar. Behind those trees, you could make out that there was a little village over there.

My twin brother and I use to laugh about this everytime we drove by knowing, without a doubt, that we couldn't see Deforest for dee trees...

In July, this year, my two sons and I were honing our skills at being complete bums and were driving around the country (literally). WE went somewhat out of our way so I could show them Deforest.

Sad to say, Deforest has grown and now comes right over to the highway and the trees are gone... I was a little bummed...

Anyway - I still think there is a lesson buried here somewhere that the fools at Reuters should study...

They probably won't be able to see it... but if they look past the...

oh well...

50 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:29:30pm

It's the editors, Stoopit![Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

51 RickZ  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:29:39pm

# 39 Mandy Manners:

Piss off, Rick. Only the truly stupid refuse to seek out answers.

Hey, now! Don't get prissy here. I'm trying to give you an out!

52 KSK  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:30:24pm

Attack of the Clones?

53 rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:30:57pm
54 EE  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:32:07pm

This Adnan Hajj seems to be quite the faker.

Anybody can now see how he repeated a section of photo over and over, to create a fraudulent photo.

I wonder why the Reuters layers of editors did not catch what in retrospect now seems obvious.

Perhaps they never imagined that anybody would stoop to doctoring a picture.

But then it is puzzling why they won't re-inspect the other photos that Mr. Hajj has submitted, using a higher standard of skepticism to question the photos' honesty. Do they still insist on being as gullible as they used to be, now that they know that faking a picture is a possibility, especially for Mr. Hajj's work?

55 Max DarkSide  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:33:28pm

People do much better photoshoping over on farq. Real pro's. Dang funny too. Hajj should take some lessons. At least work through the tutorials, for goodness sake.

We need some sort of Hajj Award for badly altered graphics, like a fiskie,...

Idiotarian Award for "Best Photoshop Hajj Job"

56 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:35:23pm

pimf,
sorry,
SAMS

57 J.D.  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:36:57pm

#53 rayra

Rather, the missile flies off ahead of the aircraft.


Your attention to detail does not go unnoticed.
:D

58 RedWhiteAndJew  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:37:00pm

#47 mich-again

OK, I think I found one. In this Reuter's picture of Condoleeza Rice, they have superimposed a very small man's face on her forehead, above her right eye. I can't tell who the face is..

I can't see it. Not saying its not there. Just can't see it...

59 Airedale  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:37:12pm

Five jets dropping chaffe.

keeps the heat seeker missiles out of their tailpipes if they detect a SAM lock.

oh,

but those flares are missiles?
LOL

60 Max DarkSide  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:38:21pm

#54 EE

I wonder why the Reuters layers of editors did not catch what in retrospect now seems obvious. Perhaps they never imagined that anybody would stoop to doctoring a picture.


You are giving Reuters WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT. Any dolt with simple experience with digital graphics would see this like a zit on a super model

Ok, bad analogy, maybe.

61 Da_Beerfreak  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:39:49pm

Once again, the good folks at Powerline have come up with an interesting new angle on this Hajj fellow:

UPDATE: Ken Sanders writes:
You are missing the bigger point. There is NO WAY this one guy could be taking all of these pictures - look at the images and dates. Does he have a flying car? The question: is he simply a clearinghouse for Hezbollah propaganda, routed expeditiously through Reuters? Looks like they pay the guy to forward unverified images (sometimes doctored or staged, as you've helped explain) taken by others.


More research is clearly warranted, and Reuters apparently is not inclined to introsepction on the subject.

62 Carridine  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:43:10pm

As for fraudulent, GreenHelmet/Hajj efforts, check this out!

63 abolitionist  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:44:46pm

Apologies for painful memories...

The quasi-periodic thickening/thinning of the trail of the "flair(s)" looks similar to what can be seen in this PIC.

I suspect the "bomb(s)" may have been replicated from a pair of objects that can be seen toward lower left in this PIC.

I'm not suggesting that elements of Hajj's PIC were lifted directly from either of these particular linked pics, but perhaps from a similar one. There were so many.

64 galloping granny  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:44:59pm
#54 EE
But then it is puzzling why they won't re-inspect the other photos that Mr. Hajj has submitted, using a higher standard of skepticism to question the photos' honesty

The answer to this question is one of simple economics. Reuters makes their money by selling these pics for a ton of money per pop. Individual newspapers pay thousands a year for subscriptions to Reuters photos. Others buy them buy the one time use - and that alone can run to many hundreds of dollars, depending on the use and how many in the run.

Like the NYT with Jason Blair, they figure they can get away with getting rid of one bad apple, a nobody out of nowhere Lebanon that can't make any waves for them. If, on the other hand, they were to undertake a real, independently verified systematic review they know darned good and well that they would be in big, big, really big trouble.

End of reputation as prime source for news photos. Hundreds/thousands of cancelled subscriptions. Stock price plummets. Bankruptcy looms.

The only option is to keep on keeping on checking every single fact they write and every single photo until the evidence is so overwhelming (and it will be) that the world community at large will force a review - or a trip to prison as co-sponsors of terror.

65 westoner  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:45:19pm

The media of today are becoming eerily like the fictitious crooked media in the great Arnie Sci-Fi film, The Running Man.

66 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:48:20pm

"Prissy" my ass. I've never done "prissy" and I'm not about to start being "prissy." Imagining me to be a dumb blonde is no "out."

67 galloping granny  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:49:17pm
#60 Max DarkSide PDT

You are giving Reuters WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT. Any dolt with simple experience with digital graphics would see this like a zit on a super model

Actually Max Darkside, that is a great analogy. If you were to actually meet a supermodel you might find yourself very surprised. Blemishes are covered up with an airbrush. Teeth are whitened and tans acquired at the click of a button. What you see really is NOT what you get.

68 Max DarkSide  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:49:59pm

#65 westoner

The media of today are becoming eerily like the fictitious crooked media in the great Arnie Sci-Fi film, The Running Man.


Or like the recent Bond movie, where the news mogul was making the news for his financial benefit.

69 Yishai  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:53:30pm

You know, what's so scary is how many times have they faked things well? We can spot the obvious fakes and stupid attempts, but how many times have we all been truly duped?

70 Silhouette  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 4:55:59pm

#69 Yish

That IS the 64 dollar question. Or perhaps we should be wondering how many times have we been told the truth.

71 Frank_Mtl  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 5:04:57pm

And Reuters uses the Neturei Carta pseudo-orthodox-jews for effect. A little more subtle than a Photoshop job.
A group of Orthodox Jews take part in a demonstration protesting the war in Lebanon, in Montreal

72 Max DarkSide  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 5:08:36pm

#67 galloping granny

Actually Max Darkside, that is a great analogy. If you were to actually meet a supermodel you might find yourself very surprised. Blemishes are covered up with an airbrush.


Moley, moley, moley...

/channeling Austin Powers

73 GT2_Oasis 14  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 5:11:17pm

Charles on Drudge Radio right now ...

Woo Hoo!

74 PSGInfinity  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 5:20:52pm

#66 Mandy Manners,

You asked a perfectly legitimate question. Rayra's answer is very good, BTW.

And to RickZ, et al; if you can't articulate the supporting statement(s) for an asserted fact, then for God's sake don't insult a questioner.

75 Max DarkSide  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 5:26:47pm

Hey, I hear Adnan Hajj visited Mount Rushmore... I found one of his pictures!

/not really.

76 Frank_Mtl  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 5:33:33pm

Was great hearing Charles on Drudge Radio! Cool voice, and nice statements too.

77 Ann  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 5:41:32pm

#69 Yishai

We can spot the obvious fakes and stupid attempts, but how many times have we all been truly duped?

Every time the islamists across the globe, from Russia to Indonesia, and the Phillipines to the UK are called "rebels, insurgents, militants, firebrands, fighters, activists, minutemen, or freedom fighters.

They blur good from evil and right from wrong.

All in the name of leveling the playing field.

The wire services think this is all a game.

78 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 6:14:00pm

#53 rayra

Thank you! I knew that those things were not missiles. I just didn't understand the kerfluffle.

#74 PSGInfinity

Thanks for watching my six. I really don't like it when someone tries to shut down someone else who is trying to figure out something, particularly with a sexist and snotty ploy.

79 GT2_Oasis 14  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 6:25:52pm

Anyone look at this one yet?

A rocket fired by Lebanon's Hizbollah guerrilla group makes its way to hit an Israeli naval vessel off Beirut

Wasn't this Israeli Navy hit a surprise? Or did Hajj know it was gonna happen?

80 summerfun  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 6:27:18pm

Dosen't John Kerry Heinz own Reuters?

81 Ol' Southern Boy  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 6:38:41pm

#75, Max DarkSide:

Linkee no workee.

82 jpsfudimo  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 6:40:25pm

I don't know if this has been posted yet.

A fellow by the name of Jeff Harrell has busted the photo at the top of the thread.

He gives a very good explanation on how it was shopped

Link

83 TotallySirius  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 6:43:10pm

When an aircraft fires a missile,the missile shoots out ahead of the plane but the plane then flies through the smoke...the smoke does not stay in the same place relative to the aircraft as the missile flies ahead...that plane is moving at hundreds of miles per hour.

There does appear to be a small plume of smoke trailing the plane but that would only occur at the exact moment the missile ignited...these missiles have travelled quite a way from the plane by the time the pic was taken.

I'm referring to the one plane that is cloned for the whole pic...even the most disciplined pilots in the world can't fire at the exact same instant.

84 nikita  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 6:56:03pm

True to MSM form a Washington Post reporter alleges that Israel spares Hizballah rockets because it wants Israeli civilians to be bombed and die so it can have "moral equivalency" in Lebanon. A statement that shows MSM moral bankruptcy on so many levels I can't even be bothered to spell them out. Oh, and he claims Israel targets journalists. Obviously missed one.

85 mattm  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 6:57:29pm

The MSM dosen't suprize me with this BS anymore.

86 mich-again  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 6:59:53pm

58 RedWhiteAndJew

Look at the smudge mark on Condi's forehead (above her right eye, at the hairline) link to Reuter's Photo . It looks like a small ghost image of a man's face. I can't imagine its natural.

87 eeevil conservative  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 7:01:24pm

nothing scandalous about this Hajj photo...

it is from Feb of '06

other than WHAT THE HECK does "BEATING" a child with a RAZOR (a child with a pacifier in his mouth) have to do with celebrations and cartoons?

Talk about CHILD ABUSE!

ARG!

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

88 pbird  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 7:06:13pm

#47 Mich again, looks like Hitler to me...

89 wahdie  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 7:07:28pm

With all I'manidjit's talk of 12th iman I thought I'd have a look at Revelations. I must admit I didn't understand it but, this description from New Advent stood out in light of the crap our MSM is spewing.

The beast from the land has two horns like a ram. Its power lies in its art of deceiving by means of tokens and miracles. Throughout the remainder of the book it is called the false prophet. Its office is to assist the beast from the sea, and to induce men to adore its image.
90 Hucbald  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 7:08:46pm

How stupid IS this guy, anyway? I mean, he wants to exagerate the number of MISSILES fired and then he duplicates FLARES: He wants to exaggerate SMOKE and in the process he duplicates BUILDINGS.

Evidently, he has had the brains beaten out of him with a stupid-stick.

Jeebus. What a blithering ignoramous.

91 Asylum Aleikum  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 7:17:48pm

Reuters makes Dan Rather look reputable. Well, almost.

92 Van Impe  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 7:32:37pm

#54 Asks:

I wonder why the Reuters layers of editors did not catch what in retrospect now seems obvious.


Its the "fake but accurate" mentality, they want the photos to be true, because they reinforce their anti-Israel bias, and are unwilling to even consider that they're fake despite it being obvious to every objective observer.

93 rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 7:35:16pm
94 clarice  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 7:41:06pm

Fakes captions, too, which is harder to check most times.

Here on two pics, two inconsistent captions:On July 24 he says the bldg was destroyed the previous night. On the other, dated August 5, he says the same thing:
[Link: powerlineblog.com...]

95 rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 7:44:57pm
96 rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 7:48:57pm
97 rayra[deleted]  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 8:04:28pm
98 haakondahl  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 8:19:50pm

Look at the photo in the link, then check this out. Here's what I posted at the JawaReport.

Let's take this flare-by-flare:

#1 is definitely fake. Even if this were a shot of just the plane, no bomb, and one flare, the fact is that #1 would have been ABOVE the plane at its apparent origin. Perhaps, O moonbats, the Israelis have been mounting their flare boxes on the upper surfaces of their planes, but in this photo, the flares are all clearly BELOW the plane.

They can also argue that the plane is flying at such an angle of attack that its history lies parallel with flare #1, but then how on earth did #2 and #3 start from where they did?

The last point is the phantom flare seen immediately below #1. What the Hell, let's call it #4 (I mean who's really counting, right?). So number #4 seems to have been cloned from #3, as #1 was copied from #2--he copied #2 and #3 together and pasted them in as #1 and #4, then saw his mistake (or decided that this was easier than isolating #2 for copying). He smudged #4 out of its already virtual existence, which accounts for the reduced distance between the bright heads of #1 and #4, as compared to #2 and #3. He could only smudge along the direction of travel, or else mess up #1 and #2. So he couldn't get rid of all the brightness--just smudge it around.

So having learned that for a number of reasons, #1 is definitelty fake, what about the others?

As for #2 and #3, it seems that if there was only one flare, it was #3, which was first copied into the #2 position. Then the origin smoke was copied to lengthen #2 (implausibly sharp kink in the smoke where it appears to have been joined), so that it would look a little different. #3 and #2 were then copied together to give (respectively) #4 and #1, whereupon #4 was deemed too much a giveaway. #4 was therefore smudged nearly out of existence, leaving us with #1, #2, and #3.

And now we come to the greatest piece of intel to be gleaned from this whole fiasco: The difference between American F-16a and the custom-made for Israel F-16Is seems to be the addition of a PHOT button on the joystick in order to create on-demand multiples of ordnance, defensive measures, perhaps even wingan in hairy situations. Photoshop saves the day!

99 desertbrat  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 9:10:52pm

One more f**k-up and this guy could qualify for a job at CNN/BBC.

100 norar  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 9:19:07pm

#9 MandyManners

Pardon my ignorance but what was altered? Missiles? How do you know?

Well, there are three traces of flares, or whatever this is, and their trails that have absolutely identical patern. This is something that defies the laws of aerodynamics. This is impossible because of the presence of air turbulences around and behind any aircraft traveling at as substantial speed as modern planes do.

Also, to simplify, as there was a time difference between the shots, the traces to be real would have to have at least different lenths.

Of course, only a person who alterred the photograph knows which of the flares was copied.

101 dak  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 9:59:10pm

I gotta disagree on this one.

Yes, they are flare. (Looks like there is other stuff dropping from the aircraft BTW, but that is the point of a raid, isn't it?)

The aircrat is dropping 3 flares, dunno how many chaffs.

The way it goes: you can program the airplane to do it automatic, IAW a certain trigger, and release a certain # of chaff or flare.

Or there is a button on the left canopy rail that you hit with your elbow that will release the preprogrammed package.

SO don't panic over this one. Aircraft release bundles of countermeasures all the time, almost never one or two at a time.

They all look the same? yeah. They are released under the same conditions within a fraction of a second.

Don't get me wrong, I have seen the Reuters faked photos.

This one is just an aircraft releasing a burst of countermeasures...

Does Israel have pyrophoric flare technology yet?

102 ansar-al-kufir  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 10:03:19pm

From a March 2006 message from Reuters' CEO (http://www.journalism.co.uk/news/story1735.shtml):

Protectionism and surrender will both fail

Tom Glocer, CEO of Reuters, warned publishers not to be protectionist about their traditional business models in the face of the challenge from "the punk revolution" of citizen media.

"Protectionism doesn't work, but neither does total surrender," he said of the "Gutenbergian transformation" of the media landscape.

"We have access to a rich world of creatives [eyeah, I guess you could call what Hajj did "creative"], talented writers, photographers, film-makers, would-be journalists, actors, musicians - let's not run away from this potential but understand and unlock it.

"User-generated content [read, doctored photos] is now part of the media mix but is not the sole component.

"We need to understand, encourage and recognise that if we act now, we might just make it to Web 3.0."

Mr Glocer focused on the challenges of incorporating this user-generated content and competing with an increasingly diverse array of media sources.

He explained his three-pronged strategy for meeting these challenges: publishers must be "seeders of clouds" [so that's what they captured in that photo - cloud seeding], offering an original, quality space that users can react to and incorporate in their digital world; they must provide tools [like Photoshop] to allow their own content "to be at the crossroads of audience consumption"; and that editing and filtering will define the role of news organisations [editing to enhance their POV and filtering anyone else's out] in the second decade of this century.

[And then the kicker . . .]

Trusted brands

Referring to the credibility of online content, including recent events on Wikipedia, Mr Glocer said that trust will become even more critical to mainstream news sites.

"The media market is being dominated by multiple sources. Fact and fiction are becoming dangerously blurred [Apparently Reuters' business plan] and trust will become a major determinator of sources," he said.

"Brands matter [trust us, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain]. The role of old media companies in the truly new media age is as the go-between, providing the structure and support between the supplier and the consumer - even if they are the same person."

103 Egfrow  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 10:22:44pm

Bye the way. Those are not missles, those are Chaff and Flare. It's a defense response from a fighter aircraft and used routinely in low altitude missions. All it does is protect the aircraft from Heat Seaking missles Radar locks from portable or ground defense missles.

104 Egfrow  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 10:33:13pm

There are no missles that I know of that have a bright light giving head. Missles don't look that way when they are fired.

Here is avideo of Chaff and Flare in action on a C-130.

105 Egfrow  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 10:38:27pm

Sorry That was a bad link. Here proper video link for the Chaff and Flare.


As a bonus. Here is a nicely done video about the A-10. This shows examples of all of it's weapons in use. The first few frame show Chaff and Flare. Then real missles and bombs as a comaprison.

106 AndrewUK  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 11:02:21pm

I'm not so sure about this. Given that Reuters have now validated suspicions about the Beirut photo, it is perhaps understandable if we are prone to jump to conclusions about other Hajj pictures, but we would, I think, do well to recognise that we are not imaging experts and all that we can really do is raise questions.

Now, even to these untrained eyes these do indeed appear to be flares rather than missiles, so it seems possible - perhaps even likely - that the picture was incorrectly captioned. I wouldn't like to say any more at this stage. If we leap before we look, we hand the moonbats PR on a plate, and we all know what that means in terms of public awareness of the real jihadi agenda. Let's take extreme care here, please!

107 maxiton  Sun, Aug 6, 2006 11:12:08pm

Tanslated from Paule Hélène Szmulewicz pour Guysen Israël News

Excuse my poor translation

They lie about the 57 Cana’s deads
They lie when they remove the corpses from the ruins
They lie while counting their deads
They lie about threir deads

They lie in front of the cameras
They lie to the reporters
They lie to their country
They lie to the whole world
They lie to their children
They lie to the villagers
They lie with their rockets launchers hidden amid the villaegs
They lie about who is alive and who is dead
They lie with their ambulances
They lie with their hospitals
They lie about the death and life
They lie about victory
They lie about defeat
The lie while rising
They lie while sleeping
They lie speaking about peace
They lie while talking
They lie with their words and they lie withoutt their words
They lie about peace
They lie about war
They lie about treaty
They lie about truce
They lie when ceasing fire
They lie with the fire
They lie about money
They lie about the billions they have
They lie when arming themselves
They lie when they destroy
Thy lie about the battle-front
They lie whith the distress
They lie a baby on their arms and a grenade in one hand
They lie with their weapons
They lie with their eyes
They lie until madness
They lie when breathing
They lie about Gaza
They about Lebanon
They lie from north to south
They from east to west
They lie while telling the true
They lie even they lie

108 hazzyday  Mon, Aug 7, 2006 1:27:59am

I think it is big news that who in reuters feels they need to shape facts so that they are no longer true. The fact that they don't want to publicly investigate this type of thing suggest to me that there are quite a few of them. Reuters taglines shoud now include a reliabity rating.

109 Terp Mole  Mon, Aug 7, 2006 5:35:24am

New al-Reuters smoke and mirrors this morning?

Reuters - Mon Aug 7, 8:17 AM ET
Smoke billows from buildings after an Israeli air raid on Beirut's suburbs, August 7,2006. (Bilal Jawish/Reuters)

Looks suspect to my untrained eyes.

What's with the dark foreground (w/ orange lights) and dim shaded background (w/ yellow lights)?

110 phord  Mon, Aug 7, 2006 5:50:28am

I saw this three-flare photo on Fox News this morning as a late update to the faked smoke story. The news was that "Reuters is pulling another photo."

111 toddhisattva  Mon, Aug 7, 2006 7:02:27am

This one looks forged.

However, the picture isn't as bad as the caption which identifies the flares as "missiles."

Just like they confuse self-defense for offense.

112 abolitionist  Mon, Aug 7, 2006 7:08:28am

I retract part of my prev post, where I said

I suspect the "bomb(s)" may have been replicated from a pair of objects that can be seen toward lower left in this PIC.

As mentioned by #98 haakondahl, between "flare #1" and "flare #2", there can be seen another, which he designates "flare #4". But I'm going to call it flare #0. Besides the obvious and near perfect symmetries between flares #1,2, and 3, there is yet another symmetry.

Imagine "cloning" flare #1, and shifting it foreward and down slightly, so that the "ditto marks" feature in that flare trail overlays the corresponding feature in flare #0.

The "head" of the flare then matches precisely that faint leftmost object just below the jet. That's an unobvious symmetry.

I suspect "flare #0" was there first, and the other stuff (everything but the jet) was cloned from it, including the "3 bombs". But the graphic artist did a bad job of erasing his "flare #0".

And I still think it likely that the prototype "flare(s)" graphic was derived from pics of the Columbia Shuttle breaking up --as a sort of macabre inside joke.


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