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Palestinians Targeted Mackinac Bridge?

Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 8:43:09 am PDT

Coast Guard increases Mackinac Bridge patrols.

CARO - The U.S. Coast Guard has increased patrols near the Mackinac Bridge after prosecutors said they believe three Palestinian-American men from Texas now jailed on terrorism-related charges were targeting the 5-mile-long span.

The men were arrested Friday outside a Wal-Mart Stores Inc. outlet in Caro in the state’s Thumb region after employees became suspicious about their purchase of 80 cell phones. Authorities say the men had about 1,000 cell phones in their van.

Maruan Awad Muhareb of Mesquite, Texas; Adham Abdelhamid Othman of Dallas; and Louai Abdelhamied Othman of Mesquite were charged with collecting or providing materials for terrorist acts and surveillance of a vulnerable target for terrorist purposes.

Tuscola County Prosecutor Mark Reene said that investigators believe the men were targeting the Mackinac Bridge.

The Detroit Free Press, citing a law enforcement official familiar with the case who it didn’t name, reported today that the phones plus photographs and videos of the bridge led authorities to believe the men were targeting the structure.

Authorities contacted the office of Gov. Jennifer Granholm about the men, The Detroit News reported. Granholm spokeswoman Liz Boyd said: “At this point, there is no credible evidence of a terrorist activity” against the bridge.

UPDATE at 8/14/06 8:45:12 am:

Debbie Schlussel has more information:

Sources tell DebbieSchlussel.com that the men are from Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the group that works in concert with HAMAS in performing homicide bombings in Israel. The group once even considered merging with HAMAS, at the time that it was headed by University of South Florida professor Sami Al-Arian, a founder of the group. Maybe now sleepy Americans will awaken to note that Palestinian terrorism is not just Israel’s problem. It’s America’s.

Sources say the plot was uncovered because law enforcement personnel observed two or more other men videotaping the Mackinac Bridge.

Sources also say that it is very unlikely the men could have succeeded in blowing up the Mackinac Bridge—even with the chips from 1,000 phones for 1,000 bombs—as it is several miles long (it’s the world’s third longest suspension bridge). At a total length of 26,372 feet, the steel structure can support 38,486 tons of weight and is very, very strong and fortified. The sources say that, likely, the plan would have succeeded in bombing cars driving on the bridge, but not bringing the structure down.

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1 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  8/14/06 6:44:51 am reply quote

But...but...terrorism in America doesn't exist! Didn't you hear? The threat was exaggerated!

/DUmmy

2 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 6:44:59 am reply quote

Not too bright, trying to use cellphones to execute a controlled demolition, but no one accused them of intelligence.

3 Canadastani  8/14/06 6:45:58 am reply quote

Sounds Like Cheney is trying to politicize it!
/

4 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 6:46:12 am reply quote

Still, they could have caused it to be closed for extensive repairs.

5 savage_nation[deleted]  8/14/06 6:46:32 am
6 Aladin Sane  8/14/06 6:46:49 am reply quote

Can someone tell me why they needed 1,000 cell phones? I mean, maybe 5 or 10, but 1,000?

7 amyc  8/14/06 6:47:12 am reply quote

So nice to see the governor say the police aren't credible in their finding evidence of terrorism. Lovely.

8 omnipotent  8/14/06 6:47:32 am reply quote

Let's not paint these men, which represent a broad strata of society Mooslums, with too broad a brush here folks...

9 shug  8/14/06 6:47:41 am reply quote
There is no terrorist threat

Michael Moore

10 frankp_63  8/14/06 6:48:46 am reply quote

I was wrong. I admit it. I thought these guys were benign.

I like to know what info isn't being reported but these guys were either posing as Arabs reselling phones or they flunked out of Al Qaeda U...

11 Occasional Reader  8/14/06 6:49:57 am reply quote

Palestinians? Terrorism? Nnnaaaah, there must be some mistake.

12 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 6:50:19 am reply quote

Oops......my bad......the Bushitlerburton crews were preparing for the controlled demolition (with cell phones) when they were found out by the coast guard. Another Bushco plot foiled!

13 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  8/14/06 6:50:37 am reply quote

"Hey Achmed, can you hear me now?"

14 sss111  8/14/06 6:51:47 am reply quote

Now why would such good boys try to blow up an innocent bridge?

15 shug  8/14/06 6:51:58 am reply quote

Islam means Peace
Islam Means peace
Islam means Peace
Islam Means peace
Islam means Peace
Islam Means peace
Islam means Peace
Islam Means peace
Islam means Peace
Islam Means peace


nah. still doesn't sound right

16 Stefania  8/14/06 6:53:13 am reply quote

PALESTINIAN "COLLABORATOR" LYNCHED IN JENIN BY PALESTINIAN ASSASSINS. (Photos)

The man admitted he gave Israel info about where to find the Islamic Jihad mass murderers.

He's doing his duty as a man who wanted real peace.


Don't expect Green Helmet Guy to rush into the place

17 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 6:53:39 am reply quote

I mean, didn't you see all those Hitlerburton rednecks from Texas with Palestinian masks on? I can see the little rubber bands.....And their names aren't Mohammed and Abdullah, they're Billy-Bob and Hank.....

18 piglet  8/14/06 6:53:41 am reply quote

Perhaps the idea was to blow up cars at either end first, trapping hundreds of cars, then make demands, get media airtime, threatening to blow up more cars every 30 minutes etc.

19 doppelganglander  8/14/06 6:55:22 am reply quote

Another reason to like Wal-mart -- their employees are alert!

20 savage_nation[deleted]  8/14/06 6:55:26 am
21 RedPepper  8/14/06 6:55:36 am reply quote

#6 Aladin Sane: No reason to assume the phones were all intended for one operation ... none that I can see ...

22 pjcomix  8/14/06 6:55:41 am reply quote

Huh? And I thought it was Presbyterians who targeted that bridge.

23 logger phd  8/14/06 6:57:06 am reply quote

What I want to know is, why were the last two of the lot of those Egyptian students down in Rchmond, Virginia? Maybe it was the large concentration of Muslim university students they were trying to "melt into"?

24 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 6:57:20 am reply quote
Authorities contacted the office of Gov. Jennifer Granholm about the men, The Detroit News reported. Granholm spokeswoman Liz Boyd said: “At this point, there is no credible evidence of a terrorist activity” against the bridge.

Either Michigan will lose a governor, or they'll lose a bridge. With a bone head like that in the governor's office, I don't think the feds can save them from themselves.

25 doppelganglander  8/14/06 6:57:34 am reply quote

5,464 online, and it's running kind of slow. What's up?

26 Aladin Sane  8/14/06 6:57:51 am reply quote

#21 RedPepper

I thought about that, but why stockpile so many at once? Why not buy them as you need them.

Of course if the authorities found out they were using cell phones as detonators, maybe they'd restrict the sale even more, so they'd have to stockpile.

Just seems like a lot of phones...

27 logger phd  8/14/06 6:59:14 am reply quote

#24 e2m

Granholm must still have a lot of Canadian capitulator in her blood. . . .

29 sixstringslinger  8/14/06 6:59:30 am reply quote

D'ose poor boys are just poor yoopers, dey are. D'ey wouldn't hurt a fly, d'ey wouldn't.

30 TotallySirius  8/14/06 7:00:25 am reply quote

OT

She's ba-a-a-a-a-a-ck!

Wailing woman in the news again,it seems she's had another of her multitude of homes destroyed.

This is their homepage so I don't know how long the pic will be there.

Do they just have a portfolio of this woman's pictures?

31 ddd  8/14/06 7:01:01 am reply quote

I need help from a Canadian who can call Dave Rutherford show a POS from the Global Policy Forum lied about various resolutions
He said UN resolution 242 required Israel unilateral withdrawal which is an enormous lie it is a as land for peace and final border will change according to British UN ambassador who wrote the article. He can call Stockwell Day office to confirm this. He said hamas has not being involved in terrorist attack since Israel withdrawal. He brought up Sahab farms being part of Lebanon. I am away at 11:30 MDSAT when open line will be on can anybody be available to attack these lies.

32 ORD neighbor  8/14/06 7:01:43 am reply quote

What about our other infrastructure?

33 RedPepper  8/14/06 7:01:57 am reply quote

#26 Aladin Sane: Boyish enthusiasm?

/s

34 Dirk Diggler  8/14/06 7:02:03 am reply quote

This all sounds very suspicious to me. The classic terrorist cell is very compartmentalized for security reasons. One hand never knows what the other is doing.

Perhaps these guys were the logistics cell (ie. the guys who acquire the transportation, the phones, rent the storage space, etc).

I hope the authorities are crawling up their ass with a microscope.

35 Mom Of 9  8/14/06 7:02:32 am reply quote

Maybe they planned to hit the bridge on Labor Day: href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackinac_Bridg e_Walk" target="_blank">
(sorry, can't get the link feature to work)

36 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  8/14/06 7:03:43 am reply quote

#28 zulubaby

That's part of the reason why I don't understand by the jihadis are celebrating their "victory." All this will do is convince Israel to vote in a hardline gov't, one that won't let a UN Resolution stop them from completing their mission.

37 SevoGuy  8/14/06 7:03:59 am reply quote

We need to create a NO ISLAM ZONE surrounding the entire United States. Nothing less will stop these sh*t stains on humanity from carrying out their jihad in the name of their god called allah or their false prophet called muhammed.

Nothing short of an entire people being flushed down the tiolet will keep America safe from these jihadis. In NYC, I take out my cross and show it to them along with my vial of Pigs blood.

It is the duty of every American Christian to convert these people from their false religion of death and preach to them about ever-lasting life through Jesus Christ.

If I were a Muslim (heaven forbide) I would really question, not only the koran, but the whole islamic lifestyle. I would ask the question: If islam is the superior religion and way of life, then why didn't an islamic person invent all the things the west has? Well the 1979 Ayatollah Khomeni gave us the answer which was: The west has help from SATAN. It's the only explaination for the superiority of the West.

38 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 7:04:05 am reply quote
The sources say that, likely, the plan would have succeeded in bombing cars driving on the bridge, but not bringing the structure down.

Concur, though they might very well have to have it out of service for weeks inspecting and making repairs before certifying it safe for traffic.

39 The Monster  8/14/06 7:04:26 am reply quote

OT
ABC radio news report
"... Israelis killed, over 700 Lebanese civilians killed..."

40 Firebreather  8/14/06 7:04:28 am reply quote

To the extent that the MSM will report on this at all, it will only be to say that it was "amateur hour" with jihad wannabes yet again.

Anytime domestic Muslim jihadists don't succeed, the media says they're harmless Keystone Kops, not a real threat (as if it requires great intelligence & planning to kill people).

If Atta et al. had been apprehended on 9/11, like the LAX Millennium bombers, the Buffalo and Atlanta groups, et al, the MSM would've said Atta & company were wannabes, too, and posed no real threat.

The public is still asleep, anesthetized by the media, by a government unwilling to name or confront the enemy, and by a deeply Ameriphobic education establishment.

41 GotFrags?  8/14/06 7:05:02 am reply quote

#27 - Granholm is Canadian.

42 Mom Of 9  8/14/06 7:05:42 am reply quote

Here's a link for the Annual Bridge Walk:


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

43 JohnSteele  8/14/06 7:05:45 am reply quote

But they were just trying to exercise the American dream, turn a profit and make a better life. A fine example of the "Buy High Sell Low" principle of business, buy 1000 phones at retail then toss away the chargers and packaging and try to sell them for more than you paid for them. Makes sense to me.

There are legends about the acumen of Arab traders, but apparently these guys were playing hokey when the "clever Arab trader gene" was being handed out.

44 The Monster  8/14/06 7:07:27 am reply quote

#40 Firebreather

Exactly. If you catch them before they do any damage, they're 'civilians' or wannabes, if they manage to kill a few Jooz, it's a Lone Gunman, nothing to see here. And if they do a suicide mission, there's no one to prosecute anyway.

45 VP45  8/14/06 7:07:40 am reply quote

Saw Charles on FoxNews again a little while ago, at his computer and standing at two very large flat panel screens looking at the real and fake Beirut bombing photos.

So proud of LGF!

46 Ben Hur  8/14/06 7:08:40 am reply quote

First they wanted Cairo, then Caro.

First they wanted Al-Aksa, then Alaska.

To be continued...

47 Mom Of 9  8/14/06 7:08:42 am reply quote

#41 GotFrogs?
I think Granholm walks the bridge on Labor Day. You'd think she'd be more concerned.

48 amyc  8/14/06 7:09:05 am reply quote

24 Thank God for the US Coast Guard. Doing the jobs democrat governors won't do for their own people since August 2005 (at least).

49 Geepers  8/14/06 7:09:19 am reply quote

A suggestion of the possible target from jpsfudimo:

That is interesting.
Every year here in Michigan we have what is called "The Bridge Walk". many high profile business people and politicians take the 5 mile hike across the bridge. This years walk is scheduled for Sept 4.

This is an election year so it is expected to be a large crowd.
I the past the numbers of Labor Day walkers have been 50,000 to 65,000.

Link

51 Mom Of 9  8/14/06 7:10:51 am reply quote
Walkers are traditionally led across by the governor of Michigan, currently Jennifer M. Granholm. In an average year, 50,000 to 65,000 people participate in the five-mile walk.
52 logger phd  8/14/06 7:11:12 am reply quote

#41 gf

Exactly. Well, Canadian-American, to be precise. Just saying that she remains infected with some Canadian multiculti sensibilities, I think. . . .

53 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 7:11:54 am reply quote

#28 zulubaby

I don't believe in ankle-biting, but I do have one tangible measure for a wartime leader: if he overrules the generals, does he have a good reason? I'm off the Olmert bandwagon for the simple reason that the IDF presented him with a workable plan, and he chose to modify it severely, with no strategic justification of his own.

If there's anything to be learned from comparing the way Clinton handled military matters to how Bush does, it's you listen to the generals, and don't be so egotistical as to think that you know better. In this regard, Olmert resembles Clinton. A lot. I'm very disappointed.

54 jpsfudimo  8/14/06 7:12:16 am reply quote

Geepers

I impress :)

55 GotFrags?  8/14/06 7:12:21 am reply quote

#51 Mom of 9

I'll bet she has a more than adequate security detail. No such luck for the rest of the walkers.

56 Firebreather  8/14/06 7:12:30 am reply quote

Domestic Muslim terrorism is a regular feature of daily life in America.

How about the Muslim pilot of Egypt Air who prayed to Allah before deliberately downing an airliner on Halloween night, 1999, killing over 200 people, most of them tourists?

How about John Allen Muhammad & Lee Malvo, who justified their murderous sniper spree in 2002 in the name of Islam?

How about the attempted mass murder of Jews by fanatical Muslims at LAX, the murder at the Jewish center in Seattle, or the killings of Coptic Christians in New Jersey?

The list goes on and on and on. It is a LIE to say America has not been attacked on American soil by Muslim terrorists since 9/11. It is a lie if the media says it & it is a lie if the Bush administration says it.

57 WriterMom  8/14/06 7:12:56 am reply quote

#30 Totallly Sirius

torontoguy in the other thread also noticed that, but when I click, I get an old guy on 'the rubble' of his 'house'..

Did they already switch it? Anyone get a screen shot?

58 solomonpanting  8/14/06 7:14:03 am reply quote
The sources say that, likely, the plan would have succeeded in bombing cars driving on the bridge, but not bringing the structure down.

Whew! At first I thought there was a credible threat.

59 joshlbetts  8/14/06 7:14:15 am reply quote

Bullshit. They could have brought it down very easily.

60 Carridine  8/14/06 7:14:25 am reply quote

Its late, 2315 BKK time... I love to support, analyze and contribute, but 0600 is on its way, and I'll be back then...

Fight the good fight, Liza Droids!

/spellchek

61 Poitiers-Lepanto  8/14/06 7:15:18 am reply quote

It's just matter of time anyway:

every day unknown numbers of muslims come to the States,
every day unknown numbers of mosques are being built in here,
every day the money from saudi arabia flows into the States to BUY politicians, journalists, "intellectuals".

It's just matter of time.
The rallies of the thugs will grow in number and in size.
The attacks will come and come again.

The door is open, the zombies are here.

And the fiLth column of the subversives and of the subversive media supports them.

62 reggie  8/14/06 7:15:36 am reply quote
The sources say that, likely, the plan would have succeeded in bombing cars driving on the bridge, but not bringing the structure down.

Whew, that's a relief! I was afraid somebody might get hurt if they were standing under the bridge. But only a few cars would have felt any pain.

Well, unless there were actually people driving them at the time.

63 Geepers  8/14/06 7:15:54 am reply quote

jpsfudimo (#54),

Nah. Anybody that can cross that sucker on a motorcycle, tandem, in the rain, that's impress.

64 MSMediaCritic  8/14/06 7:16:06 am reply quote

I can't believe no one has said this yet.

All your cellphones are belong to us!

65 ddd  8/14/06 7:16:57 am reply quote

I need help from a Canadian who can call Dave Rutherford show a POS from the Global Policy Forum lied about various resolutions
He said UN resolution 242 required Israel unilateral withdrawal which is an enormous lie it is a as land for peace and final border will change according to British UN ambassador who wrote the article. He can call Stockwell Day office to confirm this. He said hamas has not being involved in terrorist attack since Israel withdrawal. He brought up Sahab farms being part of Lebanon. I am away at 11:30 MDSAT when open line will be on can anybody be available to attack these lies.

I an gone in an hour.

66 taxfreekiller  8/14/06 7:16:58 am reply quote

Carefull lgf posters you tred near the liar of the "evil money cult" in Washinton D.C. never forget, "these guys are the new citizens the money cult lust for" and they are only doing the "work Americans will not do"


you verg on being "vigilantte's" carefull

67 Killgore Trout  8/14/06 7:17:29 am reply quote
Sources say...


Sources say most people should be skeptical of of what sources say.

68 Firebreather  8/14/06 7:18:01 am reply quote

#44 The Monster--

The media is beyond craven, and will sink to any level, plumb any depth, boot-lick any swampy bottom-feeding Muslim terrorist, drink tall glasses of bilge water, and eat raw sewage.

69 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 7:18:51 am reply quote

One more thing:

Sources also say that it is very unlikely the men could have succeeded in blowing up the Mackinac Bridge—even with the chips from 1,000 phones for 1,000 bombs—as it is several miles long (it’s the world’s third longest suspension bridge).

The "chips" from the phones (presumably they're talking about the identification ROM chips) can't do squat by themselves. They need the whole operational phone to be used as a detonation device.

Debbie, get your act together.

70 JohnAnnArbor  8/14/06 7:19:56 am reply quote

A thermite charge on one of the suspension cables could potentially bring the bridge down. The anchorages for the cables need to be guarded.

71 Gordon  8/14/06 7:20:18 am reply quote

I'm glad to see that Ms. Schlussel is focused on real live plots and controversies, as opposed to smearing high school principals with the sins of their relatives.

I heard that Charles' fourth cousin twice removed served in the Waffen SS. Does that mean we must shun Charles and accuse him of being a Nazi?

72 MSMediaCritic  8/14/06 7:20:20 am reply quote

Don't these terrorists know that Michigan voted for John Kerry? They're attacking the wrong target!

/Michael Moore off

73 taxfreekiller  8/14/06 7:20:41 am reply quote

Olmart ='s a weak LBJ

74 savage_nation[deleted]  8/14/06 7:20:49 am
75 WriterMom  8/14/06 7:21:30 am reply quote

One of the standard operating principles with 'reporting' on Islamic terrorism is "minimize the potential for disaster" ie:

-they couldn't have brought down the bridge-they were just amateurs
-home grown terrorists are just scruffy kids
-missiles hitting Israel from Gaza are just home made ones, just like home-made pita bread
-home grown terrorists are disorganized, with no connection to global jihad

Also-throw in the obligatory SUCH A NICE GUY comment, just like the Nazi war criminals who do their gardening and volunteer at the local children's hospital...

76 tedzilla99  8/14/06 7:21:52 am reply quote

Quite OT:

Did anyone catch Jill Carroll this AM on Today? I'd like to see what she had to say about her very nice captors.

77 heliotrope  8/14/06 7:22:02 am reply quote

I think these guys are the cell phone "cell". They only buy phones with a specific chip. I do not think it is any fancier than providing disposable phones to other cells to avoid tracking. They need a lot of phones to do that and the phones only have limited minutes of talk time before they shut down.

Of course the batteries are useful for lots of other things. It is the phone that is disposable. If the caller has one battery and one recharger, he can work his way through a bunch of phones before the battery craps out for good.

I think that for the bad guys this is just a way around being monitored.

78 WriterMom  8/14/06 7:22:45 am reply quote

#71 Gordon

I have heard that your mother and father were first cousins, which means we should disregard all spew that comes out of your mouth.

79 taxfreekiller  8/14/06 7:23:15 am reply quote

Gordon,,

news flash, your copy of Lt. Kerrys records from the Navy are in the mail from the "ap"
could be they have been altered a bit by the
"msm" liars who like you milk the liecow each and every day.

now go away, we have "terroreist" and liberals to rid the world of.....

80 WriterMom  8/14/06 7:23:42 am reply quote

#71 Gordon

You are such a chicken shit anyway. Why don't you just go ahead and call Charles a Nazi? That seems to be what you want to do with your ridiculous comment.

81 grayp  8/14/06 7:23:57 am reply quote

#24 E2M

With a bone head like that in the governor's office,

I can't remember the nic, but an LGF regular has self-identified as her brother.

Palestinian-Americans from Texas? WTF were they doing in Michigan?

zulubaby, from your link:

Why did Olmert and his ministers falter at the last minute? Was he unable to withstand international pressure at the critical moment? Was the scepter of lengthening casualty lists too much for him?

I wonder if the US just told him to back down because of the Aug 31 deadline on Iran coming up at the UN?

82 ddd  8/14/06 7:24:50 am reply quote

I need help from a Canadian who can call Dave Rutherford show a POS from the Global Policy Forum lied about various resolutions
He said UN resolution 242 required Israel unilateral withdrawal which is an enormous lie it is a as land for peace and final border will change according to British UN ambassador who wrote the article. He can call Stockwell Day office to confirm this. He said hamas has not being involved in terrorist attack since Israel withdrawal. He brought up Shaba farms being part of Lebanon. I am away at 11:30 MDSAT when open line will be on can anybody be available to attack these lies.

83 zulubaby  8/14/06 7:24:55 am reply quote

Gordon, fuck off.

84 mahatma coat  8/14/06 7:25:16 am reply quote

hey despite their constant attempts to prove otherwise these guys ain't that stoopid...a simultaneous attack on Americas (largely undefended )bridges would be a major coup,not to mention a great disruption to commerce

85 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  8/14/06 7:25:49 am reply quote

What's that smell? Oh, hi Gordon. What's the matter, did one of your idols over at DU get tombstoned?

86 TotallySirius  8/14/06 7:26:21 am reply quote

#71 Gordon

Do you have proof of your assertion?

If not,then that is libel.

87 Killgore Trout  8/14/06 7:27:13 am reply quote

#76 tedzilla99
The Jill Carroll Story - Chapter 1: The kidnapping
I find it quite an interesting story. I don't know when Chapter 2 is coming out.

88 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 7:27:23 am reply quote

#70 JohnAnnArbor

Nonsense.

FT, or any other transportation/structural engineers out there, I would welcome your input on this. It appears that we have some "experts" here, a la WTC.

89 Gordon  8/14/06 7:27:56 am reply quote

taxfreekiller = a pussy

90 jpsfudimo  8/14/06 7:28:18 am reply quote

#81 Grayp

That would be bobgranholm

91 Doug  8/14/06 7:30:19 am reply quote

#71 Nodrog?

WTF? What mushrooms did you put in your omlette this morning?

92 TotallySirius  8/14/06 7:30:21 am reply quote

I just got done building a hardware cloth and cement block replica of the Makinak bridge and by experiments with lighter fluid and M-80s,I proved that the only way it could be destroyed is by controlled demolition,terrorists couldn't do it.

93 taxfreekiller  8/14/06 7:31:00 am reply quote

how much thinking did you put into that
tordo...

now that the give and take has started, I do
accept that your position is a weak one in that you have to defend a known liar and fraud, and his long record of treason and
other low rung flunkey commie works, but

name calling right out of the box, how
white trash are you....

94 Gordon  8/14/06 7:32:02 am reply quote

Schlussel says that the Dearborn High Principal and his wife have "relatives" in Hizbullah (no mention of how close these relatives allegedly are). So they must be fired and deported, obviously.

Gordon says that Zulubaby's "relative" was Hendrik Voerwoerd, notorious formulator of apartheid in South Africa. Therefore, Zulubaby is a fascist and should be banned from LGF.

Same logic, zulubaby. Maybe now you will get it.

95 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  8/14/06 7:32:05 am reply quote

#92 TotallySirius

I just got done building a hardware cloth and cement block replica of the Makinak bridge and by experiments with lighter fluid and M-80s,I proved that the only way it could be destroyed is by controlled demolition,terrorists couldn't do it.

Cool, but what does this have to do with Rove being indicted on May 12th?

96 grayp  8/14/06 7:33:08 am reply quote

jpsfudimo

Thanks! (wonder why I couldn't remember the nic - sheesh!)

I think Nodrog is really Markos/Kos

97 joshlbetts  8/14/06 7:33:09 am reply quote

They could have destroyed portions of the bridge with an angle grinder or a blue wrench very easily, let alone explosives.

98 zulubaby  8/14/06 7:34:06 am reply quote

Awww, Gordon is defending Nazis again.

99 Gordon  8/14/06 7:34:19 am reply quote

TFK, I was in that parking lot outside of "Spanky's Bar" in Fort Worth at 2 A.M. Saturday three weeks ago waiting for you. Were those your feet I saw sticking out from under that 1983 Ford Pinto in the back of the lot?

100 RedPepper  8/14/06 7:34:26 am reply quote

#68 "The media is beyond craven, and will sink to any level, plumb any depth, boot-lick any swampy bottom-feeding Muslim terrorist, drink tall glasses of bilge water, and eat raw sewage."

Now, c'mon, Firebreather, don't sugar coat it like that ...

101 hiker  8/14/06 7:34:43 am reply quote

I doubt seriously the intent was to bring down the bridge. More likely is that there were to be multiple blasts ON the bridge during the annual walk described by various other posters. Synchronized suicide bombings (or even non-suicide blasts) would have caused horrific bodily injuries, and outright panic (i.e., there would be only two means of access for emergency vehicles, one on either side of the span, thus all but elimiating any access to those injured further on to the bridge).

102 TotallySirius  8/14/06 7:34:59 am reply quote

#95 Targetpractice

LOL

Merry Fitzmas.

LOL

103 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 7:35:24 am reply quote

#75 WriterMom

One of the standard operating principles with 'reporting' on Islamic terrorism is "minimize the potential for disaster" ie:

-they couldn't have brought down the bridge-they were just amateurs

That's not what they're saying. What they're saying is that there's so much redundancy in the structure, that it would take literally hundreds of very precisely placed and timed charges to actually cause the bridge to collapse. This would be virtually impossible to place without being detected. And the timing using cellphones wouldn't be accurate enough.

It would, however, be likely that if they did succed in placing a few charges, that the bridge would be closed for weeks, if not months, while engineers inspect it, and order repairs. I wouldn't want to be the engineer to certify that a bridge that had been hit with multiple bombs is safe for traffic.

104 Killer Tomato  8/14/06 7:36:10 am reply quote

#81 grayp

I can't remember the nic, but an LGF regular has self-identified as her brother.

Her brother's name is Bob and he uses his real name here. He's in the service as I recall.

Palestinian-Americans from Texas? WTF were they doing in Michigan?

Story I heard was that they were buying the phones in Michigan and were going to re-sell them in Texas. I guess you can't buy disposable cell phones in Texas. Who knew?

105 zulubaby  8/14/06 7:36:18 am reply quote
Gordon says that Zulubaby's "relative" was Hendrik Voerwoerd ..

Listen dummy, when are you going to understand that your saying say doesn't make it true. You're a pathological liar -- that's your idea of "logic". Go bother someone else.

106 taxfreekiller  8/14/06 7:37:47 am reply quote

not my feet, could have been another young woman unSenator Kennedy just killed while drunk and upset over his relationship with
unSenator Kerry being not so physical any longer now that he so,,,, fat............

107 hazmat  8/14/06 7:38:28 am reply quote

81 grayp

Bob Granholm

If you look at some of his post he was supporting her support for arab-americans in Dearborn.

108 biff  8/14/06 7:38:30 am reply quote

OT - I just saw Stone's WTC last night. In one scene he shows the faces of people around the world as they first hear on radio or see on TV the destruction in NYC. Many of these images are of arabs watching solemnly or in disbelief. None ever smile, and there are certainly no celebrations. So, Stone inserts a major historical lie in the midst of his tribute. Also, the only mention of the Pentagon is that a "missile" may have hit the Pentagon. Besides the film's bloated interior focusing on two Bus Terminal policemen buried under the collapsed buildings, these buried politically motivated inaccuracies make the film much less than it could have been.

One shining light is Michael Shannon's portrayal of Marine Staff Sargeant Karnes, who certainly defines the word hero.

109 Earth2moonbat  8/14/06 7:39:25 am reply quote

#92 TotallySirius

Cute. Of course, with the right technical backing, and unlimited access to the structure, and a hardwired detonation system, they could bring it down.

Do you really think they could do that without being spotted? Or do you also believe that the WTC was brought down by a controlled demolition by hundreds of charges that no one in the building ever saw being placed?

110 amyc  8/14/06 7:39:30 am reply quote

99 gosh Gordon, I thought folks like you stood for the disadvantaged. Perhaps only so you can make fun of them later?

111 elBarto  8/14/06 7:40:04 am reply quote