Speaking of videos:

Fox News just showed five of my pictures on the Brit Hume show, in the "Grapevine" segment. For the moment, at least, it is visible on the Web!:

zombie pix on Brit Hume show.

There are two short segments before they get to mine: a poll about Americans recognizing fictional characters more than real people, and then a politician who used a slur; THEN at about a minute and a half into the clip, they do a report about the ANSWER rallies, illustrated with five of my pictures, each of which the anchorman Jim Angle described in detail. He actually says the phrase "Nazi kikes out of Lebanon"!

Amazing.

Not sure how long it will remain linkable online. Probably until tomorrow at least. I wish I had a way to record it!

Last time, Hannity & Colmes contacted me to get official permission to use my pix; this time, they didn't get any permission at all -- they just nabbed 'em off the Web.

They only project , always

War is on the way.
It will come down to us or them.

It is just a matter of time.

Yes it is, shithead.

I thought that the Koran didn't even mention Jerusalem.

Oh, and ON-topic:

I saw this Azzam Tamimi clip a while ago. It was nauseating!

I can't believe he's considered a legitimate "pundit."

Two words:

Targeted assassination.

And the NYTimes signs on as PR flack for Hiz'bollah.
/retch/

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Any Muslim leader or imam who preaches jihad needs to have an "accident". And any mosque found with stockpiled weapons needs to be destroyed. Anywhere in the world.

#1 zombie:

did they at least palm you a fin in your tip jar?

remind them (& us) plz - is it zombie -at- amazon?

Whatever Islamicists say that others do, is a perfect description of what they do. In this case, if you substitute Islam for Israel, then it is about right.
for example: "They are worried because they know the world can see clearly today that Israel is a menace, is a threat to humanity."

Should read : " The Islamofascists are worried, because they know the whole world can see clearly today that Islam is a menace, a threat to humanity.

See what I mean?

/way to go, Zombie

Hadji Girl

I was out in the sands of Iraq
And we were under attack
And I, well, I didn’t know where to go.
And the first think I could see was
Everybody’s favorite Burger King
So I threw open the door and I hit the floor.
Then suddenly to my surprise
I looked up and I saw her eyes
And I knew it was love at first sight.
And she said

Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah
Hadji girl I can’t understand what you’re saying.
And she said
Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah
Hadji girl I love you anyway.
...

"Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad," indeed.

" But if they don’t want peace, we have another language, we have another language, and we have every right to use that language and time will tell and history will tell. "

...right back at ya asshole...

Hitler, is that you?

#1 zombie

Congratulations!

Last time, Hannity & Colmes contacted me to get official permission to use my pix; this time, they didn't get any permission at all -- they just nabbed 'em off the Web.

Uh...I guess.

It is just a matter of time. You count my words and you remember these words. It is a matter of time, as they were removed from south Lebanon because of the great jihad of Hezbollah.

Yeah right.

If it wasn't for the cease fire that Israel foolishly agreed to, the great jihad of Hebollah would be an insignificant footnote in history.

How long until the Hezzies screw up by intentionally killing UN personnel or otherwise violate the cease fire? At that time, I hope Israel takes off the gloves and pounds Lebanon into the state of destruction previously falsely reported by the MSM.

#10 eLoser
#1 zombie:

did they at least palm you a fin in your tip jar?

remind them (& us) plz - is it zombie -at- amazon?

Nope -- they didn't give me a cent.

My tip jar (you're embarrassing me here) is: go to Paypal, then hit the "send money" tab and enter my account which is zombie at zombietime dot com.

I generally only use it to get "donations" from broadcasters or companies that want to re-use my stuff; the money goes to site upkeep.

Play the video, but listen to it with your eyes closed. The slight echo and the non-professional audio makes it sound like Hitler giving a speech.

my memory must be going.
didnt Islam steal Jerusalem from the Jews?
Didnt they erect a so called Holy shrine on Temple Mount?
They did this so that no religion will be able to take back Jerusalem. Technically Jerusalem is still in their hands.
The only way for Jews and Christians to take back Jerusalem is hit the Islamic site as they did to us 5,000 years ago with the help of the Romans. Israel and the Jews will use the Help of the New Romans being the British and the Americans to re conquer Temple Mount so that Jews can take it back and correct a shameful wrong doing.
Zionism and Judaism will be around for quite awhile.
Islam and All Arabs should get used to this Idea. We arent going anywhere.

In order to wipe out Hizbollah, Israel would have to kill 99% of the Lebanese population.
9 out of 10 Muslims prefer Terror to Peace.

Imam Khomeini started it and Dhimmi Carter was the enthusiastic OB/Gyn.

#16, proam,

Naw, you got it all wrong there**.... the wonderful Hezzies are the new AllState guys, wandering among the rubble clipboards in hand, taking notes, getting estimates. They will build you a better weapons repository home than the one you lost, Sayid, and all paid for out of the donations from CAIR and collections from American mosques goodness of Iran Hezbollah Hearts.

** sarc alert

"This black chapter in the history of humanity will eventually come to an end and we say, we say we are willing to bring it to an end peacefully"

Would that entail submission and the jizya?

Other than conversion to Islam, I haven't heard any peace "intiatives" from the Islamic terrorists anywhere ever.

"Come to think of it , that "we say we say" is all you need to understand, How revealing! ( Wink wink, nudge nudge)

You say you say, but you don't really.

Seems that the followers of Mohammed's schizoid "religion" need to prove their "piety" by appearing to be as psychopathic as Mo was. It also seems that this boy, Tamimi, besides being totally stark raving batshit nuts (to use a professional clinical description of his myriad afflictions, minus the evidence of the neurological damage from his hereditary and acquired syphilis) has scant regard for the proper place of Mecca in the pantheon of Islam.

For us Muslims, Jerusalem is the mother of faith.

Jerusalem is mentioned in the bible over 700 times. It is never mentioned in the Koran--not once. Some sneaky Caliph built a mosque on the temple mount many years after their so-called prophet died and went to hell and named it "The Last Mosque". So now all those arabs who supposedly know their history (we know how clear their historical perspective can be)believe their so-called prohet went riding on a winged horse in Jerusalem. Well, most of you probably know all this, I'll stop giving you the history. Charles has some great links explain it to those of you who are not familiar.

*sigh*

Deluded, whiny little moonbat, ain't he?

It is a matter of time, as they were removed from south Lebanon because of the great jihad of Hezbollah.

Um, no, they removed themselves from Lebanon, both in 2000 and now in 2006 of their own free will after pressure from the int'l community

And as they are removed from Gaza because of the great jihad of Hamas and Islamic jihad.

Nope. Again, they chose to remove themselves from Gaza last year. And then they returned. And if they feel like it, they make chose to leave again, despite what you Islamonazis believe.

This black chapter in the history of humanity will eventually come to an end and we say, we say we are willing to bring it to an end peacefully.

Taqiyya, we say, we say.

And this islamic fascist happens to be a prominent member of muslim institutions the British respect (or fear).

Any guesses as to what that "other" language might be?

Zombie,

That's copyright infringement. The very least they can do is send you a clip of the segment!

PIMF: they may choose to leave again

#5 MandyManners
I thought that the Koran didn't even mention Jerusalem.

Correct. It's not mentioned at least a thousand times.

under "resources" on the left of the lgf main page. many hours of good reading

Israel a threat to humanity? A cancer? Israel only has about 5 million people in it and it is about the size of New Jersey.

Israelis just want to be left alone in peace.

Muslims keep declaring war on Israel and declare war on countries around the globe, because they wish to subjugate non-Muslims. The fact that they are at a lower status in the world than non-Muslims drives them crazy.

The fact that non-Muslim nations(USA, Israel, Australia) have built greater civilizations than they ever did in a relatively brief period of time drives them crazy.

Maybe they should try to emulate the nations that outdid them rather than seek to destroy these nations. Nah, that would require some common sense and brains that most Muslims lack.

If you look at some "modern" Korans they actually do mention Jerusalem. And they distribute them to all the Paleostinian girls and boys.

#17 zombie

Done!

Tonight's CNN Terorrist Suggestion (#14) is to cut out some kind of plastic explosives in the shape of your shoe's inner-sole and put it in your shoe. This way, today's X-Ray machines and the boarding search techniques in use today will not detect it. CNN advises that this is enough explosives to substantially damage the plane.

The guy's presentation was kind of sloppy - they should get Martha Stewart to present these Islamofascist Terrorist craft projects.

This is getting beyond ridiculous. Of course the guy helping out in the segment was some guy in the business of selling checkpoint X-Ray equipment. Sure, the shoe-bomber is old news, but still...

Zombie: Time to start watermarking your photos.

Forgot to mention one of Freud's defense mechanism: Projection.

That is essentially what this lying, piece of trash is doing.

His ilk is the cancer, not Israel.

His ilk is the threat to humanity, not Israel.

He opposes peace and not Israel.

WP: Hezbollah Balk at Withdrawal

BEIRUT, Aug. 15 - Hezbollah refused to disarm and withdraw its fighters from the battle-scarred hills along the border with Israel on Tuesday, threatening to delay deployment of the Lebanese army and endangering a fragile cease-fire.

The makings of a compromise emerged from all-day meetings in Beirut, according to senior officials involved in the negotiations, and Prime Minister Fouad Siniora scheduled a cabinet session Wednesday for what he hoped would be formal approval of the deal. Hezbollah indicated it would be willing to pull back its fighters and weapons in exchange for a promise from the army not to probe too carefully for underground bunkers and weapons caches, the officials said.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

This should come as no surprise.

I have been looking at great quotes tonight about war and peace. I found these from a reporter (yes, I said reporter) named Dorothy Thompson who was expelled from Nazi Germany for her pre-war negative coverage of Hitler:

They have not wanted Peace at all; they have wanted to be spared war -- as though the absence of war was the same as peace.

When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered.

Peace has to be created, in order to be maintained. It is the product of Faith, Strength, Energy, Will, Sympathy, Justice, Imagination, and the triumph of principle. It will never be achieved by passivity and quietism.

It is not the fact of liberty but the way in which liberty is exercised that ultimately determines whether liberty itself survives.

There are people that say if only Israel would withdraw from the West Bank and other "Occupied" areas, that there would be peace. They must be shown statements like Azzam Timimis'. Also Arafat (the ugliest former "leader" in the world) used to say "from the river (Jordan) to the sea", when he talked in Arabic to his people about what occupied land he meant to take back. "Land for Peace" is code for all of Israel. It's a pity that most of the world does not understand this simple fact.

blah blah blah

mo-slum lies. commie lies.

bomb them

#16 ProUSA 8/15/2006 08:43PM PDT

How long until the Hezzies screw up by intentionally killing UN personnel or otherwise violate the cease fire? At that time, I hope Israel takes off the gloves and pounds Lebanon into the state of destruction previously falsely reported by the MSM.

someone was saying that earlier on fox forget who but they were not reffering to hezzbo's last chance they were refering to lebanons last chance

And THAT was just the CNN bureau chief in Syria.

Do you know why Tony Blair, George Bush, and all the members of this camp are so worried? They are worried because they know the world can see clearly today that Israel is a menace, is a threat to humanity. They can no longer fool anybody and they are worried that this spoiled baby of theirs is about to be thrown out of this human body of ours.

Sorry to you unbelievers. You'll need to skip on by this. This is setting up beautifully for the believers. Watch Jerusalem - it's the key to everything. And though Israel is going to go through some very tough times, it's not going anywhere. And the golden dome will rest with a Jewish Temple on top. Guaranteed!

Goerge Bush today... "We must defeat this EXTREMIST GROUP OF FOLKS"

The US has it's future in the hands of this man. Good luck.

#46 Mr Krabs

What is wrong with what he said?

I watched the complete, unedited Mike Wallace interview with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on C-Span. Mr. Ahmadinnerjacket is one scary, yet skillful liar. He managed to skirt around every question Wallace asked. It gave me the creeps the way he was so condescendingly smiling most of the time. He mentioned that the world would know Iran's answer to the world's questions about their nuclear program on August 22. (This conjures up terrifying visions.)

Tamimi is cut from the same piece of cloth. (It's a might big piece of cloth, btw.)

just seen zombies pictures on fox

Sarah D.

I understand congratulations are in order.

!Congratulations!

;)

Zombie
They are own your pictures, but it's not hard to copyright and/or watermark them. It's possible to make them un-clickable (there are way-rounds though) and to log the ID's of copiers.

/just sayin...

51 cbinflux,

Actually, Zombie owns a copyright in his/her pictures automatically, even without taking any steps. That said, it is always advisable to place a copyright symbol on the work with the year of the copyright and name of the copyright holder (which, presumably, could blow Zombie's identity).

Zombie,

I have a message for you from Brit Hume:

All your pictures are belong to us!

This parasite Azzam Tamimi lives the good life in UK with millions of other Muslims but doesn't want Jews living in Israel. Fuck you Tamimi!

Not to mention the millions of other Muslims living in Europe, USA, Canada, Australia

zombie

re: Fox using your stuff.

Doesn't your website say "All photos and text Copyright zombie 2006" or somesuch on each page?

Copyright is easy. You don't need an attorney. Just read up here, for example.

Major media should not use your stuff for free. You're saving them a ton of $$.

He used the term "folks" just after 9/11. I would have thought that word would be better used to describe friends and family, it sounds rediculous to me.
Then again, GW is closer to grasping the situation now more than most politicians out there, so probably it's best ignore his cowboy-speak for now hey.

#50 Irene NYC

Thank you!

/Still not used to the idea, but I'm really enjoying the getting used to part.

OT - another youtube video worth looking at

British medical student turns jihadi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6FXDGpKJQQ

#52 abu maven
I'm not a copyright lawyer, but (I did stay at a HI Express) I work with a few and have dabbled.

I doubt that millions of people are needlessly copyrighting/trademarking their works for shits-n-giggles. I really doubt that anything that any one of us puts out into the public domain without copyrighting the work can enforce any rights afterwards.

#48

It gave me the creeps the way he was so condescendingly smiling most of the time.

Thats the smile of a man that thinks he's fooling everyone and is so arrogant he really believes you buy his bull.
There is a Juan (forget his last name) guy that is always talking about illegal immigration and how we are too upset about it. That it's harmless etc. He smiles like that and says "my friend" alot. It's just as creepy.

#48 kathyn
I think Mike Wallace was almost as creepy as dinnerjacket. The interview was bad and drooling, but to avoid all discussion of the atrocity that is Iran (while allowing a murderer to be so very sad about US healtcare) was more frightening and surreal than anything I've seen lately.

More and more everyday, I wonder if Israel and jews will be allowed to survive. It's tremendously depressing.

I wish the MSM would air this on the national evening news and ask why Muslims don't comdem this. It is was shown on CBS or NBC it would have a lot of people shocked.

#5 MAndyManners

I thought that the Koran didn't even mention Jerusalem.

It doesn't. Not even once.

OT: here's msnbc quoting a neighbor of one of the London 23 describing a suspect's brother as a great kid.

Nazam’s description of Rauf, who was arrested Thursday, matches that of many suspects in the alleged plot: friendly, young men whom neighbors and friends have difficulty imagining in the role of terrorist... He moved to Pakistan shortly after his maternal uncle was stabbed to death in April 2002. Rashid Rauf was reportedly a suspect in that murder, and police raided his Birmingham home as part of the homicide probe.

Thats the smile of a man that thinks he's fooling everyone and is so arrogant he really believes you buy his bull.

Well I'm afraid that many will buy "buy" the bull and will be delighted to see that he is so reasonable and caring about the US uninsured. Wallace has engaged in the ugliest propaganda imaginable and has made a nice man out of a would-be Hitler. Wallace is complicit in the attempted murder of his own people, by smiling andlaughing with this killer. If there is a hell, I hope there is a special place for him and for the rest of the willing media.

Aint. Fluckin. Skeered.

/Try this shiite hezbullshiite in the USA.

#58 nyc
...ever hear any more of the recent pediatrician shooter in Galveston/Houston?

BTW, the one guy on the video sounds like Ali G.!

59 cbinflux,

That's not true. And I am a copyright lawyer.

Memorandum:

To all islamic fascists:

Cease and descist.

Signed,

The entire Western Population
/with of course the exception of George
the kitty kat Galloway.

59 cbinflux,

Just to clarify, in the US, the copyright is automatically created at the moment the work is fixed into a tangible medium. Under the modern Copyright Act (1976), the main advantage of using the copyright symbol is to avoid the defense of innocent infringement, which goes only towards damages, not liability.

#39 jimmy the infidel

Thanks for the link :

a promise from the army not to probe too carefully for underground bunkers and weapons caches, the officials said.

Room to manoeuver, I like.

Abu maven
Did too!
Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites
PLEASANT PRAIRIE / KENOSHA

p.s. if all you say is true:
* #55 is BS, and throwin' money down a rathole
* you must be starvin'

Jesus is coming.

And man, is HE PISSED.

Sociopaths smile as a technique to get other people to drop their defenses. Gavin DeBecker wrote the "Gift of Fear' and describes this disarming technique.

Bad guy....really bad guy.....and people without good character.....and the super naive, are the most susceptilbe to these folks.

It's why Bill Clinton fell for Ara-fart: his poor character (socialized sociopath) couldn't discern how evil Ara-fart really was - (pbuh - in hell).

Liberals don't believe in evil - unless it's named Bush or Jesus Christ.

It's time for Americans to put on armbands that say - We are with the Jews. Those that are unwilling to do so - will be letting us know who they are.

#55 Irene NYC

zombie

re: Fox using your stuff.

Doesn't your website say "All photos and text Copyright zombie 2006" or somesuch on each page?

Copyright is easy. You don't need an attorney. Just read up here, for example.

Major media should not use your stuff for free. You're saving them a ton of $$.

No, I purposely don't have a notice on my site. As #52 Abu Maven says, the copyright is automatic.

#51 cbinflux

it's not hard to copyright and/or watermark them. It's possible to make them un-clickable (there are way-rounds though) and to log the ID's of copiers.

You vastly overestimate my technical skills and free time. I barely -- just barely -- have enough time, energy and expertise even just getting them online. Stuff like watermarks and fancy codes to prevent or monitor copying -- fugeddaboutit.

Irene: it is a bit galling that Fox can use my "content," show it to tens of millions of people in order to boost their ratings, and earn a hunkload of money, and they not pay me a dime or even notify me. However, I got myself into this and am the victim of my own success. You see, everybody, I purposely allow anyone and everyone to copy my pictures and repost them on their blogs or small sites or whatever. That's been going on ever since I posted my first pictures. I went into this with the philosophy: I'm not doing this to make money, or accrue personal glory. I'm doing it to "get the word out," to educate the public about what's really going on.

So when other blogs copied my pictures, or stole them without attribution, I was secretly pleased, because my goal was being acheived. And it was fine when it was limited to nonprofit blogs, and similar sites.

But as time has passed, little by little the major media players have started to take notice, and used my stuff in for-profit corporate settings. And that's something I never really expected or prepared for. So, now what do I do? I certainly can't sue anyone, using a pseudonym. The truth is, Fox and anybody else can just steal my pictures willy-nilly and I can't do a damn thing about it, copyright or no copyright.

I'll just have to get used to it: become an unpaid staff photographer and cameraman for the MSM. If that's what it takes for them to show the content I want them to show, then so be it.

My payment will be hearing the words "Nazi kike" coming out the mouth of a MSM news anchorman, attributed to the American Left. That's payment greater than gold.

72 cbinflux,

Why do you say 55 is "bs"?

Admittedly, I could only stomach about 1/3 of that video. But that's OK. I've seen it all before. I'm sure I'll see it again.

Simple: Islam is the Ishamaelite re-writing of history to replace G-d's promise to Abraham's seed through Sarah (Isaac/Jacob/Israel) with the line through Hagar (Ishmael).

Of course, this line of Ishmaelites WOULD NOT EXIST but for Abram's and Sarai's lack of faith in G-d's promise (Sarai gave Abram her EGYPTIAN SLAVE GIRL to have a child with, and so it was her idea, but Abram had enough doubt to ascede to her request).

A Biblical case of "what goes around comes around."

You know, I get the distinct impression that going against G-d is... well... terminally stupid.

Enemies of Iasrael are enemies of G-d, by the way. I mean, from the... erm... "Horse's" mouth and all.

So, I'd suggest we all straighten up and fly right. Or die ignominious deaths. Like all them there A-rabs we 'been icin' for the past few years.

The musical monk ends this days lesson. Adieu.

Zombie
Slap from free cirle C's all over, on and around those pics.

pimf
some free

while the Israelis have proven willing to negotiate over territory in the past, they'll never negotiate away Jerusalem. rightly so, when they regard it is their holiest city and don't want it to fall into the hands of Hamas-type fanatics.

what makes this hysteria more disgusting is the fact that i saw a short clip of Tamimi on NBC Nightly News, and he seemed to be putting on a "moderate" face. Western powers can't be naive about moderate Muslims -- they do exist, but they're not nearly as widespread as people seem to think, and then you got people like Tamimi who preach jihad only with their fellow jihadis.

75 zombie,

The copyright is automatic, but it is still advisable to use the copyright symbol.

With regard to protecting your identity, why not set up a corporation to hold all of your IP? I don't do that kind of work, but I imagine you can protect your identity in that way. If you need to enforce your rights, the corporation will be the plaintiff. Admittedly, if a case ever proceeded to discovery, you'd have a tough time shielding your identity, but most cases don't get that far...

#76 abu maven, esq

b/c it clearly tells folks to pay their $45.

[Link: www.copyright.gov...]
[Link: www.copyright.gov...]
...

Regards,
Squire cbinflux

Speaking of audios (we weren't, K) one of these was sparked by Thanos, about 90 minutes ago in a previous thread; one by the insightful Dr Sanity and one as an invitation to join in the Green Ghoul takedown! MP3s here...

Karridine

cbinflux,

From the Copyright Office website:

Copyright Secured Automatically upon Creation

The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently misunderstood. No publication or registration or other action in the Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. (See following note.) There are, however, certain definite advantages to registration. See “Copyright Registration.”

Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created, and a work is “created” when it is fixed in a copy or phonorecord for the first time.

[Link: www.copyright.gov...]

We are ever grateful to the late Imam Khomenei . . . .

And here's one of the most important reasons to be grateful.

#75 zombie

My payment will be hearing the words "Nazi kike" coming out the mouth of a MSM news anchorman, attributed to the American Left. That's payment greater than gold.

My prayer: From your fingertips to America's eyes and ears... God Bless You, your work and your beautiful spirit

#73- Fubar: the Righteousness that is Christ has returned, and He notes that His 'John the Baptist', Who came May 23, 1844, was KILLED by Muslim firing squad after the Muslim imams tried to duck responsibility by having an Armenian Christian regiment kill Him, but all 750 rifle-balls MISSED at point-blank range...

So the Lord of Hosts graciously informed the Muslim world, from His Muslim-provided prison cell in the Holy Land, that "...a grievous retribution awaits you..." as they "...taste ye, what your hands have wrought!"

And make no mistake about it, the Holy One singled out America for special praise!

#84 abu maven

"However" alone ensures that anyone who bites on that (w/o a lawyer) is a fool (IMHO), and that you'll never go hungry. (1 in any town

Not to be a contard, but:

LAW & LAWYER
[Link: www.twainquotes.com...]
[Link: www.twainquotes.com...]

I believe you keep a lawyer. I have always kept a lawyer, too, though I have never made anything out of him. It is a service to an author to have a lawyer. There is something so disagreeable in having a personal contact with a publisher. So it is better to work through a lawyer--and lose your case.
- Mark Twains Speeches, "Author's Club"
To succeed in other trades, capacity must be shown; in the law, concealment of it will do.
- Following the Equator
They all laid their heads together like as many lawyers when they are gettin' ready to prove that a man's heirs ain't got any right to his property.
- Thomas Jefferson Snodgrass letter, Keokuk Saturday Post, Nov. 1, 1856
Heaven knows insanity was disreputable enough, long ago; but now that the lawyers have got to cutting every gallows rope and picking every prison lock with it, it is become a sneaking villainy that ought to hang and keep on hanging its sudden possessors until evil-doers should conclude that the safest plan was to never claim to have it until they came by it legitimately. The very calibre of the people the lawyers most frequently try to save by the insanity subterfuge ought to laugh the plea out of the courts, one would think.
- "Unburlesquable Things," The Galaxy Magazine, July 1870
Lawyers are like other people--fools on the average; but it is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other.
-quoted in Sam Clemens of Hannibal, Dixon Wecter
Those people....early stricken of God, intellectually--the departmental interpreters of the laws in Washington...can always be depended on to take any reasonably good law and interpret the common sense all out of it.
- Unmailed letter to H. C. Christiancy, 12/18/1887
We have an insanity plea that would have saved Cain.
- 4th of July speech, 1873
Really, what we want now, is not laws against crime, but a law against insanity.
- "A New Crime"
If we only had some God in the country's laws, instead of being in such a sweat to get him into the Constitution, it would be better all around.
- Letter to W. D. Howells, 9/18/1875
The laws of Nature, that is to say the laws of God, plainly made every human being a law unto himself, we must steadfastly refuse to obey those laws, and we must as steadfastly stand by the conventions which ignore them, since the statutes furnish us peace, fairly good government, and stability, and therefore are better for us than the laws of God, which would soon plunge us into confusion and disorder and anarchy if we should adopt them.
- Mark Twain in Eruption
In this topsy-turvy, crazy, illogical world, Man has made laws for himself. He has fenced himself round with them, mainly with the idea of keeping communities together, and gain for the strongest. No woman was consulted in the making of laws. And nine-tenths of the people who are daily obeying--or fighting against--Nature's laws, have no real opinion. Opinion means deduction, after weighing the matter, and deep thought upon it. They simply echo feeling, because for generations forbears have laid something down as an axiom. They do not investigate or weigh for themselves. The axiom of the forbears was, 'It is immoral to follow God's law, unless bound by man's law and a wedding ring.'
- quoted in Mark Twain on Three Weeks, Elinor Glyn
It would not be possible for Noah to do in our day what he was permitted to do in his own...The inspector would come and examine the Ark, and make all sorts of objections.
- "About All Kinds of Ships," 1892
...the administration of the law can never go lax where every individual sees to it that it grows not lax in his own case, or in cases which fall under his eyes.
- Mark Twain's Notebook

My point all along has been that Zombie owns the copyright in his/her pictures as soon as those pictures are created, without doing anything else.

What's a contard?

Here's one for Charles to feature tomorrow:

UK Times says Brit Govt considering muslim profiling for aviation security.

#9 rickl 8/15/2006 08:39PM PDT
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Any Muslim leader or imam who preaches jihad needs to have an "accident". And any mosque found with stockpiled weapons needs to be destroyed. Anywhere in the world.

Seconded.

To all Islamists ala Tamimi - I too refuse to kneel - (inspired by this mother at the Beslan Massacre)

Larisa felt fury. She would not let him die. She shouted at a terrorist across the room. "We need water and bandages!" she said. No one answered. She shouted again. She was breaking rules. The terrorist approached. "Why are you yelling?" he said.

"I need bandages," she said.

"Are you the bravest person here, or the smartest?" he said. "We will check. "His voice turned sharp: " Stand up!”

Bolloyev grabbed her shirt. "Do not go," he said. Larisa slipped free and stood, and the terrorist shoved her with his rifle toward a corner where confiscated cameras and phones had been piled and smashed.

"What are you doing?" she demanded.

He ordered her to kneel. "No," she said.

For this Bolloyev had been shot. "I told you," he said. "Get on your knees."

"No," she said.

For a moment they faced each other, the terrorist and the mother, locked in mental battle. She looked into his mask; freckles were visible near his eyes. A hush fell over the gym. The hostages had seen Betrozov's murder. Now came Larisa's turn. The terrorist raised his The terrorist raised his Kalashnikov, past her chest, past her face, stopping at her forehead. He pressed the muzzle against her brow. Larisa felt the circle of steel on her skin.

Bolloyev propped himself on an elbow. Larisa's children looked on. She reached up, grasped the barrel, and moved it away. "What kind of spectacle are you playing here, and in front of whom?" she snapped. "There are women and children here who are already scared.”

The terrorist paused. Thinking quickly, she tried to convince him that Ossetians were not enemies of Chechens, a difficult task, given that enmity between Ossetians, a Christian people with a history of fidelity to Moscow, and the Islamic Chechens and Ingush, who have long been persecuted, is deep. "Your children rest in our sanatoriums," she said. "Your women give birth here.”

"Not our wives and children," the terrorist said. "They are the spawn of Kadyrov."

The word stung. Kadyrov—the surname of former rebels who aligned with Russia and became the Kremlin's proxies. The separatists despised them with a loathing reserved for traitors. Larisa was stumped. Abdullah had been rushing across the gym; he stepped beside them. "What is happening here?" he said.

"This guy wants to execute me because I asked for water and bandages for the wounded," she said. Abdullah studied the two: his young gunman, the woman who stared him down.

"There is nothing for you here," he said. "Go back and sit down and shut up.”

She pointed to his bloodied arm. "Your arm is bandaged," she said. "Give me some of those bandages.”

"You did not understand me?" he said. "There is nothing for you here. Go back and sit down and shut up.”

Larisa returned to her place. Her children stared at her. Bolloyev lay back down. His lips were violet, his forehead coated in sweat. His death could not be far away. She was enraged.

Con't - from the Esquire article - The School

#75 zombie

You said it yourself. You never expected for-profits to use your work. In light of the fact that they are, you are within your rights to charge as you see fit for the reproduction of your work. So, for example, you would charge nothing for non-profit ventures (so long as you are credited) and charge market price for for-profit ventures. The point to putting something on each page is to give notice to people that you are enforcing your copyright. How you enforce it is up to you. Here's one option (I'm just writing this up quickly, but you get the idea.)

You are free to reproduce photographs and text found on this website for non-commercial purposes as defined by the IRS. If you would like to purchase permission to reproduce photos and/or text found on this website for commercial purposes, please contact _________.

#34 kite_eating_tree 8/15/2006 08:58PM PDT
If you look at some "modern" Korans they actually do mention Jerusalem. And they distribute them to all the Paleostinian girls and boys.

That's interesting, considering the Koran is supposed to be the unalterable words of God, delivered via the pedophile prophet.
I wonder if CAIR's Korans are similarly modified from the original.

zombie

Oh, and zombie. Don't forget you have a LOT of friends on the www. If Fox doesn't treat you with respect, the blogosphere will get on their case pronto!

;)

OT

I was looking for a video clip I think it was called

'yallah ya Nasrallah'

It had IDF forces doing their stuff.

Anybody have a link to it.

#97 km

Here's Yalla Ya Nasrallah on YouTube. Just click on confirm.

;)

Thanks Irene :-))

#94 Irene NYC
You are free to reproduce photographs and text found on this website for non-commercial purposes as defined by the IRS. If you would like to purchase permission to reproduce photos and/or text found on this website for commercial purposes, please contact _________.

Well, there are actually reasons why I don't want to have a notice like that. If I am explicitly offering my photos for "purchase," then my site could legally be viewed as a commercial enterprise by the IRS, and suddenly it gets complicated, as then zombietime becomes a real business. If, on the other hand, everything is done unofficially, or not as a tit-for-tat transaction, then it's a different story. Sort of like how nonprofits ask for a "voluntary donation" to go to their events. If a commercial site uses my matertial, and then out of the goodness of their hearts makes a "donation" to my account, which is used exclusively to pay the hosting bills, then it doesn't really count as a "business."

For now, I'll just let things be sloppy and unofficial. Really, it's more work than it's worth. I should just count myself lucky that the world wants to see my pictures, when 99.9% of the stuff on the Web is seen by only friends and family of the blogger doing it.

Carlos Mencia has a reply for the Screaming Tamimi.

zombie

Obviously, you know what makes you comfortable in your work.

May I just gently suggest that you contact Fox and point out to them that it might be in their best interest to make a donatation from time to time because then you could dedicate more time getting super fantastic photos that they could show their viewers and less time earning money to fund the website. Hint. Hint.

I really admire your work and wish you all the best.

;)

Just got out of a 2.5 year legal proceeding with a crazy artist over copyright.
I know more about it than I ever wanted to know.
The pix were zombie's while they were still in the camera.
Zombie can't start up a corporation to copyright them without revealing his/her identity, due to the fact that corporations are supposed to be transparent, or relatively so.

Abu Maven, could Zombie set the pix up in a trust administered by a public figure or organization,like, say Charles or LGF?

I don't know that much about it, but I do know that with the use of the pix, fox news should ensure that zombietime news NEVER EVER runs out of funds, EVER.

BTW, great pix Zombie

rsquare

zombie

I have a possible story idea for you. Is there any place I can send it?

Muslim terrorist or Islamic fascists

One does not have to be a Buddhist or Hindu or even a Christian to know what hate does to the body of a person.

I watch my grandmother cause her left leg to die because of hate that was in her. She did not live long when the hate started consuming her.

I know in my heart that hate can only lead to destruction. These people are teaching their hatred to their children and to the world. They are hoping that the world will take up this banner of HATE. It can only lead to the destruction of those people. I have seen what happens to people that take on that type of rage that is build on HATE. They become less then human – they become so angry because the hatred in them becomes all consuming.

Yes they can cause a lot of trouble in the world and will.

We as Americans can not let hatred destroy Israel.

It would mean that we do not deserve the freedoms we have. If we stand by and let Israel be destroyed. Then we as American people would take that hatred and turn it in on ourselves.

WE WOULD DIE.

I have to believe that the people that are running this world would know that.

We are 300 million people that LOVE our Children and wish the best for them. Here we have 5 or 6 million people that wish for peace and they Love their Children. We can not let Hate destroy them.

#101 Spiny Norman

I've been looking for that video since I saw the whole show in the spring!

Dittos Carlos! That's a man who has it together.

#94 Irene NYC 8/15/2006 10:48PM PDT

#75 zombie

You said it yourself. You never expected for-profits to use your work. In light of the fact that they are, you are within your rights to charge as you see fit for the reproduction of your work. So, for example, you would charge nothing for non-profit ventures (so long as you are credited) and charge market price for for-profit ventures. The point to putting something on each page is to give notice to people that you are enforcing your copyright. How you enforce it is up to you. Here's one option (I'm just writing this up quickly, but you get the idea.)

You are free to reproduce photographs and text found on this website for non-commercial purposes as defined by the IRS. If you would like to purchase permission to reproduce photos and/or text found on this website for commercial purposes, please contact _________.

and i bet someone here or elsewhere can make you a watermark with your web url in it kinda like getty pictures then to not use the watermark they have to hit your tip jar.

#102 Irene NYC
May I just gently suggest that you contact Fox and point out to them that it might be in their best interest to make a donatation from time to time because then you could dedicate more time getting super fantastic photos that they could show their viewers and less time earning money to fund the website. Hint. Hint.

#103 rsquare
I don't know that much about it, but I do know that with the use of the pix, fox news should ensure that zombietime news NEVER EVER runs out of funds, EVER.

I'll take both you guys' advice and send them a letter. Very passive-aggressive, nicely worded. More menacing that way. The worst that could happen is they ignore me. I doubt anything will come of it but hey -- at least I can say I tried.

#104 Irene NYC
zombie
I have a possible story idea for you. Is there any place I can send it?

zombie at zombietime d0t c0m.

Ya know stuff like this coming from Muslims just doesn't shock me... what does though is the anti-Zionists strategically placed throughout them but well within cameraview (as you can notice by a convenient zoom in.

Islamic terror is a curse upon the western world but especially Jews, and one that is unfortunately always undeserved. As long as there can be even a small amount of religious Jews who would attend a rally in support of such heinous Jew-killers there will be problems. If Jews themselves don't value protecting each others' lives, why should G-d?

/Don't mean to offend, simply to vent

Zombie: how about just making it "linkware" - if they use your photos, they have to give your URL... on web, as a clickable link, on Fox as a URL displayed in the subtitle during duration of display.

Simple, non-profit, keeps you safe and helps the cause.

#110
Sorry, meant to say not always undeserved

Enuf of this Azzam Tamimi guy. I wanna Light House! with a fence! with Oil tankers! and I want it NOW!

/childish temper tantrum

108 Zombie,

Careful what you do. By sending a "passive-aggressive" letter, you may inadvertently waive your rights or create an estoppel situation, not only as to these photos, but possibly as to future photos.

I would consider talking to a copyright lawyer before doing anything.

I would consider talking to a copyright lawyer before doing anything.

Particularly if you didn't take the fauxtos, though fair use may apply, there are certainly limits to that when direct compensation is involved. Not likely a real clear sitchiasion.

/engineer, not lawyer

This should not surprise anyone, we see anti-Israel everywhere! God Bless America, Israel, my sweet bro, and my pops!Go America & Israel! Keep all I Love Safe!

#109 zombie 8/15/2006 11:18PM PDT

#104 Irene NYC
zombie
I have a possible story idea for you. Is there any place I can send it?

zombie at zombietime d0t c0m.

i'm thinking of transfering some of your clips along with all the others to build a dvd (my new toy) with my burner but like obsession i'll just give em away with a foillow up on what was thought of em a watermark like on memri videos would be nice though i gotta figure out how to do that

all the others are ones i can download or find laying around the net

*sigh*, In the doghouse again with the family, since the found out I re-registered as a Republican. I told them I couldn't stand the Venom coming out of the DNC anymore. plus I've unconditionally supported Israel since day one.

Even tho Grandma's side of the family is jewish and went through the holocaust.

*sigh* My family is full of moonbats

115 Max,

Fox's use of Zombie's photos constitutes clear copyright infringement. A fair use argument would not fly.

Signing off for the night.

OT:

The soldier that exposed Abu Ghraib is making his rounds in the media...

Newsflash... He said it was not the fault of Rumsfield or Bush.

Someone dig up every filthy nasty thing that the libs said about Abu Ghraib.

#114 abu maven >< zombie

Cha-Ching!

;^)

#120 Abu Maven

Fox's use of Zombie's photos constitutes clear copyright infringement. A fair use argument would not fly.

I suppose if they are "Zombie-Originals" of flocking bats flying off to the moon. I bet Fox ran WORLD NAKED BIKE RIDE 2006 at the top of the hour! Thumbs up to those guys (hahaha... thumbs... up...)

/time fer another beer

And the zombietime hits just keep on comin'!

A secret contributor just sent, a month after the fact, a video from the July 13 anti-Israel protest, with subtitles in English of what the Palestinians are saying in Arabic:

Full protest report with video embedded.

Just the video all by itself, on YouTube.

Translation:

Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine, Palestine!

#120 abu maven

Sorry if you're off-line, but I gotta call BS again. Just as devil's advocate... Fox could say and show that zombie has freely allowed others to link, post, copy-n-paste for over a yr with no due diligence. They might show that on his site and Charles', zombie is begging MSM to show the truth, taunting why do none of them show the truth from the scenes, etc.

/better consult a lawyer before you do anything, even take well-meaning and free advice and free/automatic copy-righting.

In the meantime, if you care to, take simple steps of circle-C'ing everything, making pics un-right-clickable, and watermarking. Watermarking is simple in almost any software, click on Help and follow the prompts.

#52 Abu Maven

Actually, Zombie owns a copyright in his/her pictures automatically, even without taking any steps. That said, it is always advisable to place a copyright symbol on the work with the year of the copyright and name of the copyright holder (which, presumably, could blow Zombie's identity).

copyright 2006 zombietime.com is all that's needed.

#119 Jewels (aka Julian)

*sigh*, In the doghouse again with the family, since the found out I re-registered as a Republican. I told them I couldn't stand the Venom coming out of the DNC anymore. plus I've unconditionally supported Israel since day one.

Even tho Grandma's side of the family is jewish and went through the holocaust.

*sigh* My family is full of moonbats

Have a sit-down with them and discuss the possible significance of August 22. Wall Street Journal had an excellent article about it last week.

OT
Chavez was happy to see me!
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Israel threatens to resume war if Hizbullah refuses to disarm

While this might sound good, I cannot in good conscience actually support this incompetent gov't to do this.

The fact is that Hizb'allah has already reflooded the area, the constant stop and go style of playing with army destroy's all strategies, and the fact is that Olmert has shown that he cannot go all the way.

Until a new leader is elected, we should not go back in. His incompetence will just cost the lives of more soldiers which come out to situation where no real gains will come.

Until he's gone, forget it.

Little Old Engineer,

"I watch my grandmother cause her left leg to die because of hate that was in her."

If it is not too personal I am intrigued.

Olmert is an incompetent tit and needs to get booted

#129 manker:

Yeah, that about sums it up.

Besides, can you tell me WHY THE F*CK we agreed to a cease-fire, which was so obviously flimsy and held NO GUARANTEE WHATSOEVER that the Hezbos disarm?

It truly boggles the mind...

How's Haifa this morning?

Hello everybody.
I have a question to anyone who can answer; about this video.
Aren't there some Jews around this preacher of hate? If that's so, what are they doing there? They seem to be a part of the crowd listening to that screeching fellow. They seem to be Orthodox Jews, by the way.

#124 zombie:

And the zombietime hits just keep on comin'!

A secret contributor just sent, a month after the fact, a video from the July 13 anti-Israel protest, with subtitles in English of what the Palestinians are saying in Arabic:

Full protest report with video embedded.

Just the video all by itself, on YouTube.

Translation:

Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine, Palestine!

How cute. The paliscum and their supporters have such a keen sense of history.

The lines above are identical to the shouts of the Chevron (Hebron) mob, which massacred 67 of the town's Jews in 1929... Lookie here:

The next year, the British government rewarded this fanatical terrorist by appointing him Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. Following that, he organized more pogroms, including the 1929 Hebron massacre, during which the murderers chanted, "The [British] government is with us!" and "Palestine is our land and the Jews are our dogs!" These chants express the essence of Haj Amin Al-Husseini's movement, passed down to Arafat and his followers: not a national liberation movement, but a movement dependent on great power sponsors, with a goal of crushing the 'dogs' - "our dogs" - who violated the Dhimma by acting as free people.[7]

Oh,

Oh it is just the flowery way they speak. Don't pay attention to the death threats and end-of-time rhetoric. That is just the Arabs way of negotiating.

/what my friends say when I bring up this stuff.
Also why do you beilieve the interenet sites? If it was true it would be in the L.A. Times, right?

#133 Miguel:

Hola, mi hermano!

Un Dead Thread muy tranquil hoy :P

Como estas?

Golden Jerusalem
Bien gracias hermano ¿y tú qué tal? :)
Sí, está tranquilo hoy ;)

45-goodbye_natalie--I sure hope so. I draw strength from your post. Thanks. I ahve been in the dumps over the cease-fire and the uS govt role in it.

just so you lads know, this was the video me and a mate filmed at the al quds hate rally in traf sq in october last year. i have a good few images on my archives if you wanna use em, mostly hezb supporters. also this was only a small clip from the whole 40 min video. if you wanna see the whole thing then leave a comment on my blog and if i get enough requests i'll repost it.

I just sent this to Reuters.

Your coverage of what is happening in Mexico is so biased that repels anyone who knows what's going on. Everything is protrated from the view point of the law-breaking left, as if the rest of Mexico didn't exist. This is truly an insult to the Mexican people. You say that the rebellious candidate had 14-15 million votes. Never a word about the more than 50 million who repudiate his actions. I read at a site that Reuters is very biased, and I sort of didn't believe it, but reading your coverage of Mexico, only from one side, the illegal side at that, I realize that it is true! Reuters is pandering to one side of society, the smaller, psychotic side, violating the right of the mayority to be heard and to have, at the very least, equal time and concern.
The nick Al-Reuters is right on. You are disgustingly biased.
Congratulations, you are actively working for your own dismissal.
From now on, I won't take anything Reuters says as true.
Lie-Reuters, Fanatic-Reuters, Enemy of Decency-Reuters.

#137 Miguel:

Estoy bien, gracias. Quizas tu recuerdas que la maestra de mi clase es mexicana?

Aprendo intensivo ahora. Tres veces cada semana.

Golden J.
Sí recuerdo. Te dije que le preguntes que de qué ciudad es originaria :p
Vas a avanzar muy rápido, estoy seguro. Ya conoces bastante español y hablas varias lenguas, de manera que pronto serás experto en la lengua. ;)

66 Allah Fu Bar--Yeah Notice that they always parade and demonstrate and preach hate and goofy arrogant comments in locales where there are strict gun control laws.

#132 Golden Jerusalem

Yeah, that about sums it up.

Besides, can you tell me WHY THE F*CK we agreed to a cease-fire, which was so obviously flimsy and held NO GUARANTEE WHATSOEVER that the Hezbos disarm?

Well thats actually another point.

Why are we threatening to go back again, when we just agreed to stop? Why did we agree to stop on these idiotic conditions?

Rumor states that Bush couldn't handle Olmerts incompetence anymore and just stopped the war.

Had we had someone with competence handeled this, the war would have been over, Nasrallah while possibly still alive would be too afraid to even send videos, and Iran & Arab league would be threatening an Oil embargo again, to literally force Israel to stop.

It truly boggles the mind...

It makes my head want to explode.

How's Haifa this morning?

Nice, but still very quite, busses are running but the stops are pretty empty. Theres a trickle of traffic but not much else.

Now this is good news,

MK Uri Ariel drafts bill for dissolution of 17th Knesset

Chairman of National Unity, MK Uri Ariel, drafted a bill for the dissolution of the 17th Knesset.

According to him, "The management of the political establishment during the war in the north, its results, its achievements, and the treatment of the home front, were a failure in the minds of many. The Israeli public thinks that severe mistakes have been made for which the leaders need to be held responsible. This failure necessitates a renewed expression of the nation's faith in the political and military process that will be made from here on in."

69 percent: Establish inquiry committee

A Yedioth Aharonoth poll reveals support for prime minister decreasing. 57 percent think Peretz should resign. Many demand accountability among leadership

Personally while I believe that most of the top military echelon has to go. I think we have to dismantle the disengagement gov't from a top down perspective. We have to first remove the idiots at the top and then work our way down.

While Halutz has been made into a scape goat, he should be punished later. And replaced by Kaplinsky.

Udi Adam should have his name cleared, he had a plan but the failures in this case were definitely not his, and it was not right for Olmert to scapegoat him early.

The General staff has to be changed. The main positions at the top have to be held by mainly infantry and special forces commanders. Obviously Navy and Airforce should be there but I don't think they should be allowed to become Chiefs of Staff.

#142 Miguel:

Sí recuerdo. Te dije que le preguntes que de qué ciudad es originaria :p
Vas a avanzar muy rápido, estoy seguro. Ya conoces bastante español y hablas varias lenguas, de manera que pronto serás experto en la lengua. ;)

Si, ella es de Ciudad de Mexico, pero ahora ya Israeli :P

Oh, hable con mi hermana en el telefono ayer (despues de una dia largo :P).

Ella habla espanol perfecto. Que guay! :D

Hay el elemento de competicion entre nostromos, jeje.

Al-Qaeda meets Seinfeld: Man Hands

Very interesting, especially considering the August 22nd date.

Iranian general: We will soon carry out large military exercise

I remember reading about "out of the blue" operations. Where basically an army that is performing military exercises all of sudden during that exercise launches a military assault.

Does anyone think this mass mobilization could lead to an attack agaisnt US forces in Iraq, followed in conjunction with missile strikes, Hizb'allah attack again, and the Mehdi army also coming out to attack all at the same time?

And maybe even Syria would join in, but I'd really doubt it.

#146 Golden Jerusalem
Ok,por favor saluda a la maestra de parte de otro "chilango" (es el nombre para los nacidos en la Ciudad de México jeje).
La competencia con tu hermana es buena, así tienes más estímulo para perfeccionar tu español. ;)

The Mahdi died in 1885.

#144 manker:

Yeah I reckon we pretty much are on the same page when it comes to olmert/Peretz/That Gang of A$$holes...

I still can't believe Peretz' Syria comments, dear God... what a horrifyingly moronic thing to come from a guy, who is supposed to be the top defense official of this country.

No wonder this war was one gigantic fashla...

[HAIFA]Nice, but still very quite, busses are running but the stops are pretty empty. Theres a trickle of traffic but not much else.

I'm glad to hear. I hope the city gets back to its normal life real soon.

I like Haifa and I felt very sad for the city and its residents suffering during the attacks.

Good morning, dead thread.

A ceasefire whereby Hizbollah refuses to disarm. Delightful. We must be insane to have agreed to this. The IDF knows they’re going to have to go at least one more round, yeah?

#133 MigueldowninMexico

They are most likely anti-Zionists... it's a small and misguided sect of religious Jews who believe that Jews should not create a state in the land of Israel until the Messiah comes. I don't know much about the details but I think they base this belief off a single source and maybe even one quote.

In the meantime they fail to recognize the great gift that the modern day state of Israel is to the Jewish people, even in light of it's many many flaws. If nothing else having that many Jews in one place allows them the opportunity to fulfill an incredible amount of mitzvot that are next to impossible to do anywhere else (except perhaps isolated communities in New York and LA). Jews can also perform the miztvah of living in Ereztz Yisrael (the land of Israel) which can not be performed anywhere else and the fact that they have a strong military means that persecuted Jews anywhere in the world now have a safe haven.

Some of them even have the chutzpah of living in Israel while they denounce the state! G-d willing someday they will wise up and work to help reform Israel into a place they more desire instead of simply finding ways to destroy it.

Hello there Mike
I'm glad you are home ok ;)
And I'm glad the birds sing only iin spring lol

# 148 Manker

Possible, but doubtful. I expect them to say something, and I for one wouldn't be surprised if they claimed to have a functional nuke. I don't think they do, but I also don't think that matters a whole lot.

#133 MigueldowninMexico

Here's some more information...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta

The Green Hornet
Thanks a lot for the explanation!
I had read somewhere about that group which seemed almost impossible to exist, but here we have images of them conniving with the enemies of the Jewish people. Incredible. I have the impression that some people are living in a different reality, which is usually a clinical case.
I agree very much with all of your comments in your #154. You have to be crazy to be an anti-Israel Jew.
Thanks for all the data, a very thoughtful and complete answer. :)

tapping the floor impaciently
Someone's going to miss her Hershey's ration today. Hmpf.

The Green Hornet
Thanks for the link :)

Absolutely typical.

In 2002, during Israel's "Operation Defensive Shield", the Israeli military captured numerous documents [2] from the headquarters of Arafat which demonstrated that Rabbi Moshe Hirsch was on Arafat's payroll and received payments totaling $55,000. Rabbi Hirsch's son, however, denied that any payment was accepted
AHA! Follow the money.
Selling your own people. We all have traitors like those. And they are utterly disgusting.

#151 Golden Jerusalem

Yeah I reckon we pretty much are on the same page when it comes to olmert/Peretz/That Gang of A$$holes...

I still can't believe Peretz' Syria comments, dear God... what a horrifyingly moronic thing to come from a guy, who is supposed to be the top defense official of this country.

No wonder this war was one gigantic fashla...

Yup, as Liberman said, those comments continue to show his lack of connection to reality.

I'm glad to hear. I hope the city gets back to its normal life real soon.

I like Haifa and I felt very sad for the city and its residents suffering during the attacks.

It was sad, but I can't be sure everything will be normal because of the issues of another round coming about.

The best we can hope for is that the vote of no confidence will take place soon, and will be successful.

#153 zulubaby

A ceasefire whereby Hizbollah refuses to disarm. Delightful. We must be insane to have agreed to this.

I can say this with complete confidence. We [The people of Israel] never agreed to this. Only Olmert and his lackey's did. He does not represent the Israeli people, and had no right to do so.

But in some ways it is better that he did. The army can regroup, learn from their mistakes, reorganize, get rid of olmert, and prepare for the next round.

Hopefully we'll be able to install trophy on the merkava, and revise tactics. We have to start fighting more as small lighting squads constantly moving and attacking, with heavy use of snipers.

The IDF knows they’re going to have to go at least one more round, yeah?

Yup,

IDF says free to hit Syrian arms convoys

In 2000 and in 2006, Hirsch's Neturei Karta visited Iran. During the 2006 visit, they praised Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and expressed solidarity with the Iranian position of anti-Zionism and Ahmadinejad's calls for the political destruction of the Israeli state. [5] Observers have pointed out a key difference between Iran's position and that held by some members of Neturei Karta; the latter use the term 'dismantling' to refer to a peaceful removal of the state of Israel, as opposed to Iran, which has not excluded violent abolition of the state of Israel.

Gee! They are my heroes!
Sob's. They hang around with the best company.

Demonrats get in trouble with Hispanics LOL
That'll serve them well lol.

Hey Mike C,

I guess that I am going to have to start watching my local news. I clicked over to look at Drudge and Osamma Obama was across the river in Metropolis. I stopped watching the News here a long time ago they do perky Couric type news. Like fingernails on a chalkboard. Yikes!

Clinton and Gates praise Bush on Aids!

Meanwhile, science out the wazoo ! Be sure and click on the Top Ten icon to see what's happening at (over ?) the edge.

Miguel I guess you and I are the only people left awake on the internet. Or at least it feels that way. LOL

And, of course, no morning is complete without a little paleontology.

Okay, I'm done. Back to your regularly scheduled coverage of WW IV.

mkm19602000 - I'm here lurking, along with 1556 others. Do you ever feel like someone is reading over your shoulder?

:0

j

mkm
LOL. There are more than 1500 people on this site. But most of them aren't registered. Others won't even answer you when you greet them ¬¬, such as Mike C. for instance.
Let's keep on posting, thus giving life to a Dead Thread. LOL

/And what do you do in life?
-I keep moribund threads alive...

Hi Miguel

How is everything with you?

j

jfromfolsomca
I'm fine, thank you! :)
Giving CPR to the thread lol
How about you?

#172 MigueldowninMexico

Haha, I just moved back down to school today for the new fall semester, it's 3 in the morning Tucson time, and my ADD is begging for any distraction possible to keep me from getting around to unpacking...

In otherwords you keep posting and I'll keep reading :p

Green Hornet
Then, let me tell you the story of my life...
ROFL ;)

Great - morning flack. Hello, Miguel. Sheesh !

#134 Golden Jerusalem

#124 zombie:

And the zombietime hits just keep on comin'!

A secret contributor just sent, a month after the fact, a video from the July 13 anti-Israel protest, with subtitles in English of what the Palestinians are saying in Arabic:

Full protest report with video embedded.

Just the video all by itself, on YouTube.

Translation:

Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine, Palestine!

How cute. The paliscum and their supporters have such a keen sense of history.

The lines above are identical to the shouts of the Chevron (Hebron) mob, which massacred 67 of the town's Jews in 1929... Lookie here:

The next year, the British government rewarded this fanatical terrorist by appointing him Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. Following that, he organized more pogroms, including the 1929 Hebron massacre, during which the murderers chanted, "The [British] government is with us!" and "Palestine is our land and the Jews are our dogs!" These chants express the essence of Haj Amin Al-Husseini's movement, passed down to Arafat and his followers: not a national liberation movement, but a movement dependent on great power sponsors, with a goal of crushing the 'dogs' - "our dogs" - who violated the Dhimma by acting as free people.[7]

Oh,

I heard the same thing being shouted at the Arab 'Land day" demonstration in Wadi Nis Nas, Haifa in 1992. I asked a Marronite friend who I was watching the demonstrating with, " what are they chanting"? He told me the above translated historical revisionism and racial threat/smear. it was quite disturbing actually, as this was pre-Oslo during the peaceful lull after the first Intifada. In addition, another disturbing factor was that, it was in Haifa a city remarkable for its relative decent relations between Jews and Arabs. Most of the marchers were young. I had a camera swatted out of my hand by a passing protestor as I raised it to take a picture. Good thing it was a Nikkormat FT2, it survived with a small dent. I didn't take any more photos after that. The marchers looked quite fierce and displeased. This was my first taste of the depravity and fanaticism that exists in the hearts of these people. It was not my last lesson of many that would inform my naiveté and innocence. I later experienced many more acts by Paleos that shook me to the core. If there intentions were to cower it didn't work. My initial fear turned to anger, and eventually lead to me disarming and throwing an adolescent Paleo who brandished a knife during an argument outside of Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, over the sidewalk rail, and down the hill below were the public restrooms are across the road from the gate. I don't know what his fate was and I couldn't care. I felt threatened and eliminated the threat. What I did out of a need for self preservation is so mething that the West needs to do on a much larger scale. But alas, we are still dreamy, good intentioned, nice people.

After what I learned while living in Israel for only three years, I cannot fathom how anyone living in Israel can remain a pacifist/leftist against such a blatant existential threat as the Arabs. That such Israelis still exist is a testamenet to the good character and steadfastness of Jews in general, and Israelis in particular.

Now they are spouting that Shiite hear in America, again trying to intimidate and revise the truth of matters. It would be great to get a group of Protest Warriors to stand across the street from them (with a phalanx of police between) and return their revisionist/racist ranting as a corollary argument:

Israel'uh Yehudiyyah
Israel'uh Yehudiyyah
Israel'uh bladnuh
Wa’al Arabiyyah klaubnuh
Israel,Israel!

I wonder what their reaction would be?

Miguel

Fox news is going in the background and I'm cracking open a Mickey's tall can... go ahead, I'm not going anywhere for a while

Has anybody seen this magnificent speech by a Colonel in the Army? What a real patriot! It's on Michell Malkin's Vent.

I'm fighting a cold right now, but everything else is OK. For the last few weeks, I feel like I'm waiting for the "other" shoe to drop - like something big is going to happen soon. I keep reading the internet, checking FOX (like some people keep checking the door to see if it's locked) - this is totally weird for me to be this way. Usually I'm upbeat and happy with life. If those damn terrorists are going to hit, I wish they would just get it over with, so we could start shooting; and that's an awful thing to think, let alone say.

j

#181 jfromfolsomca

These things pass, I get like that too sometimes but after a while you get burnt out, turn off the tv, shut off the computer, and go outside to take a walk. It's similar to what I hear insomnia is like... eventually it will wear off and until then don't stress too much about it.

Something I've found to help is to try and come up with a resolution to do some kind of personal improvement. It's a nice way to help you feel like you have control in your life when you're bothered by situations you don't have control over.

Mike
:p

Thanks Miguel - that speech had some great words. I feel better knowing there are people like this on our side.

j

j
I'm not American and I felt like crying over hearing that man speak.
I'm also glad there are people like that. :)

OT:

I just heard on FOX that Jesse Jackson is trying to broker a prisoner exchange to get the captured Israeli soldiers back...

... May G-d have mercy on those poor boys

Good Morning, Lizards!

Boker tov wheat

Thanks Geen Hornet, for your thoughtful words.

Jesse Jackson is such a media whore. Like Israel needs this clown to help them do anything!

j

Green Hornet
That's a good piece of advice. When you are nervous and not knowing what goes, and what to do, try to improve yourself in some way.
Excellent ;)

Right now the feeling in Mexico is just as j puts it: the floating feeling that something is bound to happen.

/I'll resume doing exercise, I guess lol

Miguel - I hope you are out of harms way if any violence breaks out in Mexico re your recent election.

j

coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

j
Thanks a lot my friend! :)
I hope so too. Although I'm decided to defend myself any way I can if things come down to that.
In the meantime, I'll exercise lol.

Good morning littleoldlady.

Do you need some coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, or are you serving it?

j

Miguel

I'll make you a deal... for every mile you run I'll take another sip of my Mickey's. That way when my parents accuse me of drinking too much instead of focusing on class I can tell them that I'm sponsoring an athlete! :p

One hour fourteen minutes late ¬¬

I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed coffeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I'm late, too? OY.

Green Hornet
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Great pretext right? ROFL
All for sports! lol

Mike C,

No wonder the universe is a crazy place, the lithium is missing.

[Link: www.newscientistspace.com...]

Morning™ evening good every*one afternoon!

Coffee is in the fruitcup ^^^^^
Myself help!

/help!

Hey, littleoldlady.
You have an excellent track record, so you deserve a pass.
Here, get some Gold Nuggets ™ ;)

And on a more "Back in the loop" vein, a nice little editorial RE biased/propaganda reporting from this AM's Washinton Times.

littleoldlady
Guess have you I trouble some...
About tell it me.

# 199 Westward Ho

Read that. And there's the answer - the universe is obviously off it's meds.

#188 The Green Hornet

right back at ya!

The cables out at home (TV) not internet, but who cares! Got some nice coffee on and I need to start getting the kids ready for school in about 20 minutes.

Life is good this morning!

GH: At a sip of beer/mile, Miguel is going to have to run a lot of miles before you get in trouble with your parents. Now if it were based on Charles' bike riding log, you just might be in trouble by the end of the first month. LOL

j

School? How late AM I?!

/rip van winkle mode?

Miguel,

Rough week. My mom's sick and in the hospital. The hospital is a couple of hours away.

/are we having fun yet?

jfromfolsomca

My liver is young and headstrong... it's up to the challenge!

First week, j LOL. Charles rides really long distances.

Bulgar Wheat
Good morning! I'm glad you are so happy :)

Darn I went to check my spam filter, and the place comes back to life.

Yes jp, I do feel like someone is reading over my shoulder, in fact my cat has a habit of placing his posterior on the headrest of the office chair and putting his front paws on my shoulder. LOL he will stay like that for a bit and then start doing things to get my attention so I will entertain him. I know what you are talking about in waiting for the other shoe to drop also, I cannot sleep without bacground noise. I had the tv on earlier and bolted out of bed when they did emergency broadcating test at 2:15AM. I don't know if it's me but it sure seem like they have been testing a lot more frequently than they used to in the past month. I'm sure I am being paranoid about that. LOL

Oh well now the thread is coming to life again I won't have to stray. Good Morning everyone.

Right now the feeling in Mexico is just as j puts it: the floating feeling that something is bound to happen.

why in Mexico?

littleoldlady
Oh, I'm sorry to read that :(
I hope your mom gets well soon. A prayer for her health and my best wishes.

You get extra Gold Nuggets today ;)

littleoldlady - sorry to hear about your Mom. It's hard not to worry about loved ones, especially with a 2 hour commute to be with her. Hope everything turns out OK for her.

j

Hello ploome!
Mexico is in the brink of a civil war, in the worst-case scenario.
In the best-case she's in for a rough ride the next months.

Hiya j! and Miguel,

Thanks! I think she'll be okay. On the one hand, she's 83 years old. On the other hand, she has a tatoo on her arm that starts with an "A" (for Auschwitz). She's no wuss, my mother.

On the third hand, my back is in spasm and I overslept...

/Wusses R Us

Good bye mkm!

{littleoldlady}

I hope this stands for a hug.

j

littleoldlady
Wow, that tatoo gave me goose pimps. She's quite a woman, indeed. May God bless her.
My mom is 84. I understand your concern.
Let me shake your third hand. I've never greeted a martian :p

I typed a whole bunch of braces on that hug, I wonder why only 2 printed?

j

j,

Watch the back, will ya?!

;-)

/kidding. Thanks!

hi Litle Old LAdy

havent seen you for a while, hope your Mother gets better

Miguel

forgot about that election

who said they have a cold?

I do also

woke up on SAturday and I could barely speak...squeeking actually

very odd...no fever or throat discomfort...just couldn't speak

anway..got some antibiotics...its loosening up

j
Charles' script won't allow us write several ! or ? or other signs. Only one.
Charles hates exageration LOL.

Good morning, people.

littleoldlady - sorry to hear - will pray for your mom

Feeling up to 2 doses of bad news, people?

Hezbollah Leads Work to Rebuild, Gaining Stature

BEIRUT, Lebanon, Aug. 15 — As stunned Lebanese returned Tuesday over broken roads to shattered apartments in the south, it increasingly seemed that the beneficiary of the destruction was most likely to be Hezbollah.

A major reason — in addition to its hard-won reputation as the only Arab force that fought Israel to a standstill — is that it is already dominating the efforts to rebuild with a torrent of money from oil-rich Iran.

Memorizing the Way to Heaven [from NYC], Verse by Verse

This one's got so many depressing details, better refill your coffee before you read the whole thing.

The carpeted room is full of children in skullcaps crouched on prayer mats, reciting verses from a holy text. Some mumble the words under their breath; others sing them out. They rock back and forth as they chant, their disparate voices blending into an ethereal melody.

The children, ages 7 to 14, are full-time students, in class 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., Monday through Friday, even in the summer. But they are not studying math, science or English. Instead, they are memorizing all 6,200 verses in the Koran, a task that usually takes two to three years.

I used to be in favor of school vouchers, having sent 5 kids to Catholic school K-12 -- but not anymore.

(Sorry to be Queen of Glum this morning.)

ploome
If you start singing like a bird...

Wow, all of a sudden we went from 1500+ lurkers, to over 4000. Sometimes, the Blue Nowhere is so cool.

j

Very interesting,

It is true, foresight and stupidity are constantly confused.

Right On: The real blunder in Lebanon

Indeed, by transferring advanced rockets and weaponry to Hizbullah, Teheran and Damascus have just unwittingly proven one of the Bush Administration's central contentions regarding the need for preemptive action against rogue states in the global war on terror.

The two countries have demonstrated that they are ready and willing to share missile systems with a terrorist organization, thus strengthening the case that they must be prevented from obtaining weapons of mass destruction at all costs.

This very point was at the heart of an important speech made by US President George W. Bush last October in which he outlined America's strategy for fighting terror across the globe. Speaking at the National Endowment for Democracy in Washington, Bush made clear that, "we're determined to deny weapons of mass destruction to outlaw regimes, and to their terrorist allies who would use them without hesitation."

Bush was right, and very soon every LLL will grinding their teeth when they see this.

G-D bless the soldiers in the US military and the IDF.

FOX's weather forcast for Iraq today: "It's gonna be hot!"

Does that statement really sound as amusing as I thought it did or is my buzz just kicking in?

nonic
By the description on your second link it's more and more apparent to me that Islam is a CULT.
Brainwashing as I've never seen, except for the likes of David Koresh or Jim Jones.
Poor them, poor us.

The universe is out of its meds, indeed.

Tehran Takes Gloomy View of the Lebanon War and Truce:
[Link: www.debka.com...]

It's off debkafile so it could be bogus but wishful thinking gives me a little bit of consolation reading it...

Even the failures of cosmology are spectacular, if it were run like a business imagine telling your boss - boss I fucked up slightly I cannot account for 95% of the matter in the universe, 80% of the energy and by the way junk that age of the universe report I gave it to you, I have found out that I forgot to add 2 billion more years to it. O there is a slight discrepancy between the measured values of the cosmological constant and the theoretically predicted one - How much asked the fulminating frothing boss - it is 10 raised to 100 times smaller than predicted..

{Ploomie!}

Thanks. Hope you are well.

got a cold

thanks

#224 nonic

He envisions the children in the school becoming not just religious leaders but doctors, lawyers and engineers, helping to bridge the gap between the Muslim world and American society. “We want them to be leaders in all different kinds of roles.”

How in the hell does he think they can become doctors, lawyers, or engineers, without real schooling (e.g., math, science, language). Memorizing the koran isn't going to teach them how to build a bridge, only blow one up.

j

A little (unexpected) oxygen in today's NYT...

Op-Ed piece by Irshad Manji, Muslim Myopia.

Well, the thread resurrected indeed.
Time for me to hit the bunk ;)
Good bye everybody and God bless all. :)

I said stray,not stay that means I'm notleaving. LOL Miguel I downloaded the LTC White's speech from the base website. He is a truth teller, just like General Honore was after Katrina. I wish our society honored men like them instead of the latte and biscotti crowd LTC White talked about.

littleoldlady, hug your mom for me. Hope she is well soon.

ploomie,

Zicam™! Ever try it? I get bad colds when I get them, and that stuff knocks it down to a two-day experience.

Manker, from the Jpost article you cite

"Any government that chooses to be an ally of terror has also chosen to be an enemy of civilization. And the civilized world must hold those regimes to account."

and what about the UN, the EU and the IRC

all supporting and shielding Hezballah and their supprt system in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza

it is NOT terrorism if only Jews are killed

Lady, I am taking Zpack

azithromycin..is that th same thing?/

# 231 Westward Ho

If it were easy, they'd let an engineer do it.

mkm
I said good bye because I was leaving.

/Whew, I found a good pretext for not reading well lol.

Bye all, for real now :)

Good morning all Lizardoids from the east coast. JWF reporting for duty.

Well, well, where do we even begin today?

Being it's the 29th anniversary of the passing of Elvis Presley, here's a pile of horse manure passing as journalism in the case of one Fidel Castro, who we can only hope is dead soon.

Video of Frail Castro Sobers Cubans

Sobers Cubans? I don't think so. They'll be drunk with joy when this monster descends into his special place in hell.

The government video of a weakened
Fidel Castro convalescing in bed brought home a growing awareness to many Cubans on Tuesday that neither he nor the country will likely be the same again.

The images released Monday night of Cuba's 80-year-old "unconquerable commander in chief" reassured anxious Cubans that he was alive, comfortable and recovering after surgery.

But the post-surgery photographs and video also are helping Cubans "gradually grow accustomed to" the idea of a Cuba without their "Maximum Leader" at the helm, according to historian Manuel Cuesta-Morua, a government opponent.

ploome,

Nope. You're smart. Taking Zithro is going straight to the good stuff (antibiotic). You'll be better in a jiffy!

:-)

Zicam is just some over-the-counter zinc-based (I think) homeopathic stuff.

Miguel

Atah tzadak, yeish chaim lchut shuv! Lyla tov chaver.

#239 ploome hineni

and what about the UN, the EU and the IRC

all supporting and shielding Hezballah and their supprt system in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza

it is NOT terrorism if only Jews are killed

In the end of the day, Bush talked and setup some of the ground work, now we need those that follow to finish it for him.

Bush isn't without his faults, but remember even the world superpower can't do everything.

You can't wipe the EU's ass and make them realize the crap their gonna go through.

The UN and IRC have to both be told that they will lose US funding, and amazingly things will change in a manner not seen before.

The fact is that we must setup a league of democracies to truely to reach the situation that we need to get too.

#234 jfromfolsomca

Unfortunately, some universities will view this kind of whacko background as "diversity" to "enrich" their student body and give these kids scholarships along with remedial classes in the basics.

/Q of G this a.m.

Meanwhile, actor Bruno Kirby has died.

Bruno Kirby, a veteran character actor known for playing the best friend in two of
Billy Crystal's biggest comedies "When Harry Met Sally" and "City Slickers," has died. He was 57.

Kirby died Monday in Los Angeles from complications related to leukemia, his wife Lynn Sellers said in a statement Tuesday. He had been recently diagnosed with the disease.

"We are incredibly grateful for the outpouring of support we have received from Bruno's fans and colleagues who have admired and respected his work over the past 30 years," his wife said. "Bruno's spirit will continue to live on not only in his rich body of film and television work but also through the lives of individuals he has touched throughout his life."

Born Bruno Giovanni Quidaciolu in 1949 in New York City, he was the son of actor Bruce Kirby. His early work included the 1971 film "Young Graduates," as well as appearances on the television show "Room 222" and the made-for-TV movie "The Summer Without Boys."

In 1974, he scored a role in "The Godfather: Part II," which won several Academy Awards, including best picture. In the film, Kirby played young "Pete Clemenza," following Richard S. Castellano's role in the first installment.

Bye Miguel.

Noah Pollack presents this alternative explanation for the US and Israel pulling out of Lebanon without achieving stated goals.

Iran armed Hezbollah and clearly is not going to be step down from its nuclear program diplomatically.

The war in Lebanon just gave the US all the evidence it will need to strike Iran once they refuse to comply with the UN demands regarding their nuclear ambitions.

Here is what Pollack said:

---snip----Undoubtedly, the most important and highest-priority U.S. and Israeli objective in the Middle East today is thwarting Iran’s nuclear-weapons project. It is likely that the confrontation with Iran will not be resolved diplomatically, and that in the decisive moment it will be America, not Israel, that dispatches its military forces to destroy the Iranian nuclear sites. This basic calculus is the context in which American and Israeli Middle East strategic thinking takes place today.

Israel’s actions against Hezbollah thus must fit within the greater shared U.S.-Israeli strategy for the region. That strategy always must consider the danger of an Arab League or OPEC decision to curtail oil sales, as in 1973. An oil embargo is the Arabs’ secret weapon: Gas rationing and triple-digit per barrel oil prices would cripple the global economy, enrage the American public, and possibly engender anti-Israel popular sentiment in the U.S. Even the threat of an embargo would send oil prices skyrocketing. American support for Israeli military actions must therefore always be wary to the risk of Arab hostility to Israel uniting behind the cause of restricting the sale of Middle Eastern oil.--snip---

link to entire article:

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

In a clear indication that moonbattery has crept eastward from California the spawn of Jimmah Carter has won a Senate primary in Nevada.

Jimmy Carter's son, Jack Carter, won the Democratic nomination Tuesday to face Republican U.S. Sen. John Ensign in November in Nevada, where voters also picked candidates in a sometimes-zany pair of primaries to replace popular Republican Gov. Kenny Guinn.

Carter claimed 78 percent of the vote in early returns to defeat political unknown Ruby Jee Tun of Carson City, a middle school science teacher. Ensign won with 90 percent of the vote over Ed "Fast Eddie" Hamilton of Las Vegas, a former Chrysler Corp. supervisor.

I know, you're like me in lamenting the stunning defeats of Ruby Jee Tun and Fast Eddie Hamilton.

What were the voters thinking?

#229 Miquel

Islam is a CULT.
Brainwashing

Yep. Notice that a kid who memorizes the koran gets a ticket to heaven and can take 10 people of his choice with him.

It's not just a cult -- memorizing words they don't understand -- it's a cult that insures tribalism.

Lyla tov everyone

Brit Baby Bomb Beasts

Such a lovely couple.

These are the twisted young British parents who planned to sacrifice their precious baby in the evil cause of jihad by mass murder.

Fanatical terror suspect Abdula Ahmed Ali, 25, and his wife, Cossor, 23, are among those being interrogated by police as suspects in the massive plot to attack trans-Atlantic flights in midair.

What the outwardly normal couple had secretly plotted is almost too horrifying to consider, cops said.

The Alis planned to use 6-month-old son Zain's baby bottle as a liquid bomb, blowing themselves and their child up, along with hundreds of others aboard the flight.

All in the name of their sick, twisted religion, you see.

Druze leader in Lebanon: We will not surrender to Assad, Nasrallah

Druze leader and head of the anti-Syrian camp, Walid Jumblatt, responded to the recent speeches of Syrian President Bashar Assad and Hizbullah leader Hasan Nasrallah, saying, "We will never surrender to Assad or to Nasrallah's conditions." This was reported by Lebanese newspaper al-Mustaqbal.

I love that guy, the Druze are badasses.

In this case I do believe that some kind of war is inevietable.

The main reason is that while Hizb'allah is refusing to disarm, I don't think many lebanese are happy about this. I think they're quite pissed at the Shia.

The question is, are they pissed off enough to pick up arms to stop Hizb'allah so that Israel doesn't attack again?

#254 JWF

From the bottom of the article:

Cossor's grandfather Nazir Ahmed, 84, said Ali made an unexpected visit to Pakistan about four weeks ago.

"We didn't understand what the hurry was and why he had to go on his own," he told The Mail on Sunday.

The fucking people are intentionally clueless

#241, Mike C,

I am not criticizing them just pointing out that my fascination with the subject extends even to its failures.

Good Morning deadthreaders. I hope everyone had a safe, restful evening. I hope realwest's move has gone well and he is staying healthy.

Any thoughts as to how long this "ceasefire" will last until the fighting starts up again?
My guess is it will last for as long as it takes for Hezbollah to get resupplied with rockets and ammunition by Syria and Iran. And when the fighting starts up again, I'm thinking Israel needs to take over and keep Lebannon.

Low pressure off North Carolina refuses to organize.

Gulf system has completely fallen apart, appaently disrupted by the big thunderstorm complex that moved South through Mississippi.

In the busy part of the Atlantic tropical cyclone season, but the dry air off Africa, slightly cooler than normal ocean temps in the East Atlantic, and an El Niño-ish SOI and Equatorial East Pac water profile and corresponding shear in the Caribbean, means not a lot happening.

But, lets recall the 1938 Cat 3 that hit New York was the third week of September, and 26º water is as far North as New Jersey, so I haven't completely given up yet.

# 257 Westward Ho

I understand. That was an old oilfield joke.

#254 JWF:

The Alis planned to use 6-month-old son Zain's baby bottle as a liquid bomb, blowing themselves and their child up, along with hundreds of others aboard the flight.

LOL. You know what "zain" is in Hebrew? :D

#260, Mike C,

Now that you tell me it is quite funny.

mkm19602000 8/16/2006 04:15AM PDT

#254 JWF

From the bottom of the article:

Cossor's grandfather Nazir Ahmed, 84, said Ali made an unexpected visit to Pakistan about four weeks ago.

"We didn't understand what the hurry was and why he had to go on his own," he told The Mail on Sunday.

The fucking people are intentionally clueless

We had no idea! We were also scratching our heads as to why he shaved his head, grew a beard, had WTC posters on his wall, was chanting Allah Akhbar and death to the Joooos, was making his martyrdom video and was mising chemicals in the basement.

No idea, we tell you! He loved football and fish and chips. This cannot possibly be true.

He's a good kid!

# 262 Westward Ho

Well, it was to geoscience types. Engineers never seemed to appreciate it.

3 wood,

I see Woods, Flabby Phil and Ogilvy are playing together in rounds 1 and 2. But they tee off at 9:35 tomorrow and there's no television coverage at the time.

How weak is that? TNT doesn't come on until 2 pm ET, but supposedly the Golf Channel will pick up coverage at 11 ET.

Not that I'd get to see any of it anyway.

I guess they go around 1:30 or so on Friday; that I can see.

# 263 JWF

E's not the messiah ! E's a good boy, e is !

/Life of Brian