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Azzam Tamimi Uncensored

Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 8:32:32 pm PDT

LGF reader Alfred emailed a transcription of this video, featuring the Associated Press go-to guy, Azzam Tamimi, raving about jihad and destroying Israel.

... anybody in the world, with faith or without faith, must come together in order to eradicate this cancer from the body of humanity. [Crowd: Allah –u-Akbar] We are ever grateful to the late Imam Khomenei for starting this occasion. Because the world . . . must never forget al-Quds, must never forget Jerusalem. For us Muslims, Jerusalem is the mother of faith. Al-Quds is in our [argita?], Al-Quds is in our [rebota?] Al-Quds is the . . . cornerstone to our umma. Those who are prepared to sell al-Quds do not represent us, do not speak for us. Those who resist, those who fight, those who . . .jihad . . . against [?], against Zionism are the true representatives of the Palestinians, and all the Muslims regarding the Palestinian issue.

Do you know why Tony Blair, George Bush, and all the members of this camp are so worried? They are worried because they know the world can see clearly today that Israel is a menace, is a threat to humanity. They can no longer fool anybody and they are worried that this spoiled baby of theirs is about to be thrown out of this human body of ours. [Crowd: Allah –u-Akbar]

It is just a matter of time. You count my words and you remember these words. It is a matter of time, as they were removed from south Lebanon because of the great jihad of Hezbollah. [Crowd: Allah–u-Akbar] And as they are removed from Gaza because of the great jihad of Hamas and Islamic jihad. [Crowd: Allah –u-Akbar] This black chapter in the history of humanity will eventually come to an end and we say, we say we are willing to bring it to an end peacefully. But if they don’t want peace, we have another language, we have another language, and we have every right to use that language and time will tell and history will tell. [Timimi and the crowd: Allah –u-Akbar]

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1 zombie  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:34:50pm

Speaking of videos:

Fox News just showed five of my pictures on the Brit Hume show, in the "Grapevine" segment. For the moment, at least, it is visible on the Web!:

zombie pix on Brit Hume show.

There are two short segments before they get to mine: a poll about Americans recognizing fictional characters more than real people, and then a politician who used a slur; THEN at about a minute and a half into the clip, they do a report about the ANSWER rallies, illustrated with five of my pictures, each of which the anchorman Jim Angle described in detail. He actually says the phrase "Nazi kikes out of Lebanon"!

Amazing.

Not sure how long it will remain linkable online. Probably until tomorrow at least. I wish I had a way to record it!

Last time, Hannity & Colmes contacted me to get official permission to use my pix; this time, they didn't get any permission at all -- they just nabbed 'em off the Web.

2 paint-right  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:35:05pm

They only project , always

3 Da_Beerfreak  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:35:40pm

War is on the way.
It will come down to us or them.

4 Stuck in california  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:35:54pm
It is just a matter of time.

Yes it is, shithead.

5 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:36:06pm

I thought that the Koran didn't even mention Jerusalem.

6 zombie  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:36:21pm

Oh, and ON-topic:

I saw this Azzam Tamimi clip a while ago. It was nauseating!

I can't believe he's considered a legitimate "pundit."

7 rickl  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:36:31pm

Two words:

Targeted assassination.

8 tradewind  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:39:18pm

And the NYTimes signs on as PR flack for Hiz'bollah.
/retch/

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

9 rickl  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:39:19pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Any Muslim leader or imam who preaches jihad needs to have an "accident". And any mosque found with stockpiled weapons needs to be destroyed. Anywhere in the world.

10 eLoser  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:39:38pm

#1 zombie:

did they at least palm you a fin in your tip jar?

remind them (& us) plz - is it zombie -at- amazon?

11 paint-right  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:41:39pm

Whatever Islamicists say that others do, is a perfect description of what they do. In this case, if you substitute Islam for Israel, then it is about right.
for example: "They are worried because they know the world can see clearly today that Israel is a menace, is a threat to humanity."

Should read : " The Islamofascists are worried, because they know the whole world can see clearly today that Islam is a menace, a threat to humanity.

See what I mean?

/way to go, Zombie

12 Beagle  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:41:40pm

Hadji Girl

I was out in the sands of Iraq
And we were under attack
And I, well, I didn’t know where to go.
And the first think I could see was
Everybody’s favorite Burger King
So I threw open the door and I hit the floor.
Then suddenly to my surprise
I looked up and I saw her eyes
And I knew it was love at first sight.
And she said

Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah

Hadji girl I can’t understand what you’re saying.
And she said
Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah
Hadji girl I love you anyway.
...


"Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad," indeed.

13 Orbit Rain  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:42:50pm

" But if they don’t want peace, we have another language, we have another language, and we have every right to use that language and time will tell and history will tell. "

...right back at ya asshole...

14 FrogMarch  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:42:51pm

Hitler, is that you?

15 rickl  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:43:00pm
#1 zombie


Congratulations!

Last time, Hannity & Colmes contacted me to get official permission to use my pix; this time, they didn't get any permission at all -- they just nabbed 'em off the Web.


Uh...I guess.

16 ProUSA  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:43:05pm
It is just a matter of time. You count my words and you remember these words. It is a matter of time, as they were removed from south Lebanon because of the great jihad of Hezbollah.

Yeah right.

If it wasn't for the cease fire that Israel foolishly agreed to, the great jihad of Hebollah would be an insignificant footnote in history.

How long until the Hezzies screw up by intentionally killing UN personnel or otherwise violate the cease fire? At that time, I hope Israel takes off the gloves and pounds Lebanon into the state of destruction previously falsely reported by the MSM.

17 zombie  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:44:27pm
#10 eLoser
#1 zombie:

did they at least palm you a fin in your tip jar?

remind them (& us) plz - is it zombie -at- amazon?

Nope -- they didn't give me a cent.

My tip jar (you're embarrassing me here) is: go to Paypal, then hit the "send money" tab and enter my account which is zombie at zombietime dot com.

I generally only use it to get "donations" from broadcasters or companies that want to re-use my stuff; the money goes to site upkeep.

18 Doss  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:48:07pm

Play the video, but listen to it with your eyes closed. The slight echo and the non-professional audio makes it sound like Hitler giving a speech.

19 arier_Tzvi  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:49:31pm

my memory must be going.
didnt Islam steal Jerusalem from the Jews?
Didnt they erect a so called Holy shrine on Temple Mount?
They did this so that no religion will be able to take back Jerusalem. Technically Jerusalem is still in their hands.
The only way for Jews and Christians to take back Jerusalem is hit the Islamic site as they did to us 5,000 years ago with the help of the Romans. Israel and the Jews will use the Help of the New Romans being the British and the Americans to re conquer Temple Mount so that Jews can take it back and correct a shameful wrong doing.
Zionism and Judaism will be around for quite awhile.
Islam and All Arabs should get used to this Idea. We arent going anywhere.

20 surrounded  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:49:37pm

In order to wipe out Hizbollah, Israel would have to kill 99% of the Lebanese population.
9 out of 10 Muslims prefer Terror to Peace.

21 aaron's rantblog  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:49:38pm

Imam Khomeini started it and Dhimmi Carter was the enthusiastic OB/Gyn.

22 tradewind  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:50:05pm

#16, proam,

Naw, you got it all wrong there**.... the wonderful Hezzies are the new AllState guys, wandering among the rubble clipboards in hand, taking notes, getting estimates. They will build you a better weapons repository home than the one you lost, Sayid, and all paid for out of the donations from CAIR and collections from American mosques goodness of Iran Hezbollah Hearts.

** sarc alert

23 paint-right  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:50:17pm

"This black chapter in the history of humanity will eventually come to an end and we say, we say we are willing to bring it to an end peacefully"

Would that entail submission and the jizya?

Other than conversion to Islam, I haven't heard any peace "intiatives" from the Islamic terrorists anywhere ever.

"Come to think of it , that "we say we say" is all you need to understand, How revealing! ( Wink wink, nudge nudge)

You say you say, but you don't really.

24 gymnast  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:51:02pm

Seems that the followers of Mohammed's schizoid "religion" need to prove their "piety" by appearing to be as psychopathic as Mo was. It also seems that this boy, Tamimi, besides being totally stark raving batshit nuts (to use a professional clinical description of his myriad afflictions, minus the evidence of the neurological damage from his hereditary and acquired syphilis) has scant regard for the proper place of Mecca in the pantheon of Islam.

25 kite_eating_tree  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:52:02pm
For us Muslims, Jerusalem is the mother of faith.

Jerusalem is mentioned in the bible over 700 times. It is never mentioned in the Koran--not once. Some sneaky Caliph built a mosque on the temple mount many years after their so-called prophet died and went to hell and named it "The Last Mosque". So now all those arabs who supposedly know their history (we know how clear their historical perspective can be)believe their so-called prohet went riding on a winged horse in Jerusalem. Well, most of you probably know all this, I'll stop giving you the history. Charles has some great links explain it to those of you who are not familiar.

*sigh*

26 jimmy the infidel  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:52:08pm

Deluded, whiny little moonbat, ain't he?

It is a matter of time, as they were removed from south Lebanon because of the great jihad of Hezbollah.

Um, no, they removed themselves from Lebanon, both in 2000 and now in 2006 of their own free will after pressure from the int'l community

And as they are removed from Gaza because of the great jihad of Hamas and Islamic jihad.

Nope. Again, they chose to remove themselves from Gaza last year. And then they returned. And if they feel like it, they make chose to leave again, despite what you Islamonazis believe.

This black chapter in the history of humanity will eventually come to an end and we say, we say we are willing to bring it to an end peacefully.

Taqiyya, we say, we say.

27 Frank_Mtl  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:53:42pm

And this islamic fascist happens to be a prominent member of muslim institutions the British respect (or fear).

28 Maui Girl  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:53:54pm

Any guesses as to what that "other" language might be?

29 Abu Maven  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:53:54pm

Zombie,

That's copyright infringement. The very least they can do is send you a clip of the segment!

30 jimmy the infidel  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:53:55pm

PIMF: they may choose to leave again

31 solomonpanting  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:54:22pm

#5 MandyManners
I thought that the Koran didn't even mention Jerusalem.

Correct. It's not mentioned at least a thousand times.

32 kite_eating_tree  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:56:03pm

under "resources" on the left of the lgf main page. many hours of good reading

33 Aegius  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:56:05pm

Israel a threat to humanity? A cancer? Israel only has about 5 million people in it and it is about the size of New Jersey.

Israelis just want to be left alone in peace.

Muslims keep declaring war on Israel and declare war on countries around the globe, because they wish to subjugate non-Muslims. The fact that they are at a lower status in the world than non-Muslims drives them crazy.

The fact that non-Muslim nations(USA, Israel, Australia) have built greater civilizations than they ever did in a relatively brief period of time drives them crazy.

Maybe they should try to emulate the nations that outdid them rather than seek to destroy these nations. Nah, that would require some common sense and brains that most Muslims lack.

34 kite_eating_tree  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:58:05pm

If you look at some "modern" Korans they actually do mention Jerusalem. And they distribute them to all the Paleostinian girls and boys.

35 rickl  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:58:20pm

#17 zombie

Done!

36 Shredstar  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 6:59:44pm

Tonight's CNN Terorrist Suggestion (#14) is to cut out some kind of plastic explosives in the shape of your shoe's inner-sole and put it in your shoe. This way, today's X-Ray machines and the boarding search techniques in use today will not detect it. CNN advises that this is enough explosives to substantially damage the plane.

The guy's presentation was kind of sloppy - they should get Martha Stewart to present these Islamofascist Terrorist craft projects.

This is getting beyond ridiculous. Of course the guy helping out in the segment was some guy in the business of selling checkpoint X-Ray equipment. Sure, the shoe-bomber is old news, but still...

37 infopimp  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:00:50pm

Zombie: Time to start watermarking your photos.

38 Aegius  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:07:47pm

Forgot to mention one of Freud's defense mechanism: Projection.

That is essentially what this lying, piece of trash is doing.

His ilk is the cancer, not Israel.

His ilk is the threat to humanity, not Israel.

He opposes peace and not Israel.

39 jimmy the infidel  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:11:50pm

WP: Hezbollah Balk at Withdrawal

BEIRUT, Aug. 15 - Hezbollah refused to disarm and withdraw its fighters from the battle-scarred hills along the border with Israel on Tuesday, threatening to delay deployment of the Lebanese army and endangering a fragile cease-fire.

The makings of a compromise emerged from all-day meetings in Beirut, according to senior officials involved in the negotiations, and Prime Minister Fouad Siniora scheduled a cabinet session Wednesday for what he hoped would be formal approval of the deal. Hezbollah indicated it would be willing to pull back its fighters and weapons in exchange for a promise from the army not to probe too carefully for underground bunkers and weapons caches, the officials said.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

This should come as no surprise.

40 scathach  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:12:02pm

I have been looking at great quotes tonight about war and peace. I found these from a reporter (yes, I said reporter) named Dorothy Thompson who was expelled from Nazi Germany for her pre-war negative coverage of Hitler:

They have not wanted Peace at all; they have wanted to be spared war -- as though the absence of war was the same as peace.

When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered.

Peace has to be created, in order to be maintained. It is the product of Faith, Strength, Energy, Will, Sympathy, Justice, Imagination, and the triumph of principle. It will never be achieved by passivity and quietism.

It is not the fact of liberty but the way in which liberty is exercised that ultimately determines whether liberty itself survives.

41 jmg6160  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:13:31pm

There are people that say if only Israel would withdraw from the West Bank and other "Occupied" areas, that there would be peace. They must be shown statements like Azzam Timimis'. Also Arafat (the ugliest former "leader" in the world) used to say "from the river (Jordan) to the sea", when he talked in Arabic to his people about what occupied land he meant to take back. "Land for Peace" is code for all of Israel. It's a pity that most of the world does not understand this simple fact.

42 massachusetts republican  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:15:24pm

blah blah blah

mo-slum lies. commie lies.

bomb them

43 jimmytheclaw  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:20:11pm

#16 ProUSA 8/15/2006 08:43PM PDT

How long until the Hezzies screw up by intentionally killing UN personnel or otherwise violate the cease fire? At that time, I hope Israel takes off the gloves and pounds Lebanon into the state of destruction previously falsely reported by the MSM.

someone was saying that earlier on fox forget who but they were not reffering to hezzbo's last chance they were refering to lebanons last chance

44 Slap Shot  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:23:58pm

And THAT was just the CNN bureau chief in Syria.

45 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:27:41pm
Do you know why Tony Blair, George Bush, and all the members of this camp are so worried? They are worried because they know the world can see clearly today that Israel is a menace, is a threat to humanity. They can no longer fool anybody and they are worried that this spoiled baby of theirs is about to be thrown out of this human body of ours.

Sorry to you unbelievers. You'll need to skip on by this. This is setting up beautifully for the believers. Watch Jerusalem - it's the key to everything. And though Israel is going to go through some very tough times, it's not going anywhere. And the golden dome will rest with a Jewish Temple on top. Guaranteed!

46 Mr Krabs  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:31:38pm

Goerge Bush today... "We must defeat this EXTREMIST GROUP OF FOLKS"

The US has it's future in the hands of this man. Good luck.

47 Sarah D.  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:33:04pm

#46 Mr Krabs

What is wrong with what he said?

48 kathyn  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:33:11pm

I watched the complete, unedited Mike Wallace interview with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on C-Span. Mr. Ahmadinnerjacket is one scary, yet skillful liar. He managed to skirt around every question Wallace asked. It gave me the creeps the way he was so condescendingly smiling most of the time. He mentioned that the world would know Iran's answer to the world's questions about their nuclear program on August 22. (This conjures up terrifying visions.)

Tamimi is cut from the same piece of cloth. (It's a might big piece of cloth, btw.)

49 jimmytheclaw  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:33:50pm

just seen zombies pictures on fox

50 Irene NYC  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:36:02pm

Sarah D.

I understand congratulations are in order.

!Congratulations!

;)

51 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:37:44pm

Zombie
They are own your pictures, but it's not hard to copyright and/or watermark them. It's possible to make them un-clickable (there are way-rounds though) and to log the ID's of copiers.

/just sayin...

52 Abu Maven  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:41:48pm

51 cbinflux,

Actually, Zombie owns a copyright in his/her pictures automatically, even without taking any steps. That said, it is always advisable to place a copyright symbol on the work with the year of the copyright and name of the copyright holder (which, presumably, could blow Zombie's identity).

53 MSMediaCritic  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:42:27pm

Zombie,

I have a message for you from Brit Hume:

All your pictures are belong to us!

54 dennisw  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:42:36pm

This parasite Azzam Tamimi lives the good life in UK with millions of other Muslims but doesn't want Jews living in Israel. Fuck you Tamimi!

Not to mention the millions of other Muslims living in Europe, USA, Canada, Australia

55 Irene NYC  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:44:23pm

zombie

re: Fox using your stuff.

Doesn't your website say "All photos and text Copyright zombie 2006" or somesuch on each page?

Copyright is easy. You don't need an attorney. Just read up here, for example.

Major media should not use your stuff for free. You're saving them a ton of $$.

56 Mr Krabs  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:45:35pm

He used the term "folks" just after 9/11. I would have thought that word would be better used to describe friends and family, it sounds rediculous to me.
Then again, GW is closer to grasping the situation now more than most politicians out there, so probably it's best ignore his cowboy-speak for now hey.

57 Sarah D.  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:45:57pm

#50 Irene NYC

Thank you!

/Still not used to the idea, but I'm really enjoying the getting used to part.

58 nyc10012  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:45:59pm

OT - another youtube video worth looking at


British medical student turns jihadi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6FXDGpKJQQ

59 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:46:52pm

#52 abu maven
I'm not a copyright lawyer, but (I did stay at a HI Express) I work with a few and have dabbled.

I doubt that millions of people are needlessly copyrighting/trademarking their works for shits-n-giggles. I really doubt that anything that any one of us puts out into the public domain without copyrighting the work can enforce any rights afterwards.

60 jmg6160  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:48:28pm

#48

It gave me the creeps the way he was so condescendingly smiling most of the time.

Thats the smile of a man that thinks he's fooling everyone and is so arrogant he really believes you buy his bull.
There is a Juan (forget his last name) guy that is always talking about illegal immigration and how we are too upset about it. That it's harmless etc. He smiles like that and says "my friend" alot. It's just as creepy.

61 SpartanWoman  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:49:10pm

#48 kathyn
I think Mike Wallace was almost as creepy as dinnerjacket. The interview was bad and drooling, but to avoid all discussion of the atrocity that is Iran (while allowing a murderer to be so very sad about US healtcare) was more frightening and surreal than anything I've seen lately.

More and more everyday, I wonder if Israel and jews will be allowed to survive. It's tremendously depressing.

62 mattm  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:50:23pm

I wish the MSM would air this on the national evening news and ask why Muslims don't comdem this. It is was shown on CBS or NBC it would have a lot of people shocked.

63 Tasty_Beverage  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:51:37pm

#5 MAndyManners

I thought that the Koran didn't even mention Jerusalem.

It doesn't. Not even once.

64 Joseph  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:51:40pm

OT: here's msnbc quoting a neighbor of one of the London 23 describing a suspect's brother as a great kid.

Nazam’s description of Rauf, who was arrested Thursday, matches that of many suspects in the alleged plot: friendly, young men whom neighbors and friends have difficulty imagining in the role of terrorist... He moved to Pakistan shortly after his maternal uncle was stabbed to death in April 2002. Rashid Rauf was reportedly a suspect in that murder, and police raided his Birmingham home as part of the homicide probe.
65 SpartanWoman  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:55:07pm

Thats the smile of a man that thinks he's fooling everyone and is so arrogant he really believes you buy his bull.


Well I'm afraid that many will buy "buy" the bull and will be delighted to see that he is so reasonable and caring about the US uninsured. Wallace has engaged in the ugliest propaganda imaginable and has made a nice man out of a would-be Hitler. Wallace is complicit in the attempted murder of his own people, by smiling andlaughing with this killer. If there is a hell, I hope there is a special place for him and for the rest of the willing media.

66 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:56:13pm

Aint. Fluckin. Skeered.

/Try this shiite hezbullshiite in the USA.

67 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 7:58:09pm

#58 nyc
...ever hear any more of the recent pediatrician shooter in Galveston/Houston?

BTW, the one guy on the video sounds like Ali G.!

68 Abu Maven  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:00:35pm

59 cbinflux,

That's not true. And I am a copyright lawyer.

69 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:02:14pm

Memorandum:

To all islamic fascists:

Cease and descist.

Signed,

The entire Western Population
/with of course the exception of George
the kitty kat Galloway.

70 Abu Maven  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:03:51pm

59 cbinflux,

Just to clarify, in the US, the copyright is automatically created at the moment the work is fixed into a tangible medium. Under the modern Copyright Act (1976), the main advantage of using the copyright symbol is to avoid the defense of innocent infringement, which goes only towards damages, not liability.

71 Frank_Mtl  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:04:37pm

#39 jimmy the infidel

Thanks for the link :

a promise from the army not to probe too carefully for underground bunkers and weapons caches, the officials said.


Room to manoeuver, I like.

72 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:04:50pm

Abu maven
Did too!
Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites
PLEASANT PRAIRIE / KENOSHA

p.s. if all you say is true:
* #55 is BS, and throwin' money down a rathole
* you must be starvin'

73 Allah al Fubar  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:04:52pm

Jesus is coming.

And man, is HE PISSED.

74 DistantThunder  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:05:10pm

Sociopaths smile as a technique to get other people to drop their defenses. Gavin DeBecker wrote the "Gift of Fear' and describes this disarming technique.

Bad guy....really bad guy.....and people without good character.....and the super naive, are the most susceptilbe to these folks.

It's why Bill Clinton fell for Ara-fart: his poor character (socialized sociopath) couldn't discern how evil Ara-fart really was - (pbuh - in hell).

Liberals don't believe in evil - unless it's named Bush or Jesus Christ.


It's time for Americans to put on armbands that say - We are with the Jews. Those that are unwilling to do so - will be letting us know who they are.

75 zombie  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:06:32pm
#55 Irene NYC

zombie

re: Fox using your stuff.

Doesn't your website say "All photos and text Copyright zombie 2006" or somesuch on each page?

Copyright is easy. You don't need an attorney. Just read up here, for example.

Major media should not use your stuff for free. You're saving them a ton of $$.

No, I purposely don't have a notice on my site. As #52 Abu Maven says, the copyright is automatic.

#51 cbinflux

it's not hard to copyright and/or watermark them. It's possible to make them un-clickable (there are way-rounds though) and to log the ID's of copiers.

You vastly overestimate my technical skills and free time. I barely -- just barely -- have enough time, energy and expertise even just getting them online. Stuff like watermarks and fancy codes to prevent or monitor copying -- fugeddaboutit.

Irene: it is a bit galling that Fox can use my "content," show it to tens of millions of people in order to boost their ratings, and earn a hunkload of money, and they not pay me a dime or even notify me. However, I got myself into this and am the victim of my own success. You see, everybody, I purposely allow anyone and everyone to copy my pictures and repost them on their blogs or small sites or whatever. That's been going on ever since I posted my first pictures. I went into this with the philosophy: I'm not doing this to make money, or accrue personal glory. I'm doing it to "get the word out," to educate the public about what's really going on.

So when other blogs copied my pictures, or stole them without attribution, I was secretly pleased, because my goal was being acheived. And it was fine when it was limited to nonprofit blogs, and similar sites.

But as time has passed, little by little the major media players have started to take notice, and used my stuff in for-profit corporate settings. And that's something I never really expected or prepared for. So, now what do I do? I certainly can't sue anyone, using a pseudonym. The truth is, Fox and anybody else can just steal my pictures willy-nilly and I can't do a damn thing about it, copyright or no copyright.

I'll just have to get used to it: become an unpaid staff photographer and cameraman for the MSM. If that's what it takes for them to show the content I want them to show, then so be it.

My payment will be hearing the words "Nazi kike" coming out the mouth of a MSM news anchorman, attributed to the American Left. That's payment greater than gold.

76 Abu Maven  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:07:36pm

72 cbinflux,

Why do you say 55 is "bs"?

77 Hucbald  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:07:40pm

Admittedly, I could only stomach about 1/3 of that video. But that's OK. I've seen it all before. I'm sure I'll see it again.

Simple: Islam is the Ishamaelite re-writing of history to replace G-d's promise to Abraham's seed through Sarah (Isaac/Jacob/Israel) with the line through Hagar (Ishmael).

Of course, this line of Ishmaelites WOULD NOT EXIST but for Abram's and Sarai's lack of faith in G-d's promise (Sarai gave Abram her EGYPTIAN SLAVE GIRL to have a child with, and so it was her idea, but Abram had enough doubt to ascede to her request).

A Biblical case of "what goes around comes around."

You know, I get the distinct impression that going against G-d is... well... terminally stupid.

Enemies of Iasrael are enemies of G-d, by the way. I mean, from the... erm... "Horse's" mouth and all.

So, I'd suggest we all straighten up and fly right. Or die ignominious deaths. Like all them there A-rabs we 'been icin' for the past few years.

The musical monk ends this days lesson. Adieu.

78 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:07:48pm

Zombie
Slap from free cirle C's all over, on and around those pics.

79 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:08:43pm

pimf
some free

80 Trey Stone  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:10:07pm

while the Israelis have proven willing to negotiate over territory in the past, they'll never negotiate away Jerusalem. rightly so, when they regard it is their holiest city and don't want it to fall into the hands of Hamas-type fanatics.

what makes this hysteria more disgusting is the fact that i saw a short clip of Tamimi on NBC Nightly News, and he seemed to be putting on a "moderate" face. Western powers can't be naive about moderate Muslims -- they do exist, but they're not nearly as widespread as people seem to think, and then you got people like Tamimi who preach jihad only with their fellow jihadis.

81 Abu Maven  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:11:43pm

75 zombie,

The copyright is automatic, but it is still advisable to use the copyright symbol.

With regard to protecting your identity, why not set up a corporation to hold all of your IP? I don't do that kind of work, but I imagine you can protect your identity in that way. If you need to enforce your rights, the corporation will be the plaintiff. Admittedly, if a case ever proceeded to discovery, you'd have a tough time shielding your identity, but most cases don't get that far...

82 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:12:07pm

#76 abu maven, esq

b/c it clearly tells folks to pay their $45.

[Link: www.copyright.gov...]
[Link: www.copyright.gov...]
...

Regards,
Squire cbinflux

83 Carridine  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:14:48pm

Speaking of audios (we weren't, K) one of these was sparked by Thanos, about 90 minutes ago in a previous thread; one by the insightful Dr Sanity and one as an invitation to join in the Green Ghoul takedown! MP3s here...

Karridine

84 Abu Maven  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:17:48pm

cbinflux,

From the Copyright Office website:


Copyright Secured Automatically upon Creation

The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently misunderstood. No publication or registration or other action in the Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. (See following note.) There are, however, certain definite advantages to registration. See “Copyright Registration.”

Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created, and a work is “created” when it is fixed in a copy or phonorecord for the first time.

[Link: www.copyright.gov...]

85 RadicalRon  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:17:54pm
We are ever grateful to the late Imam Khomenei . . . .

And here's one of the most important reasons to be grateful.

86 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:18:15pm

#75 zombie

My payment will be hearing the words "Nazi kike" coming out the mouth of a MSM news anchorman, attributed to the American Left. That's payment greater than gold.

My prayer: From your fingertips to America's eyes and ears... God Bless You, your work and your beautiful spirit

87 Carridine  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:32:12pm

#73- Fubar: the Righteousness that is Christ has returned, and He notes that His 'John the Baptist', Who came May 23, 1844, was KILLED by Muslim firing squad after the Muslim imams tried to duck responsibility by having an Armenian Christian regiment kill Him, but all 750 rifle-balls MISSED at point-blank range...

So the Lord of Hosts graciously informed the Muslim world, from His Muslim-provided prison cell in the Holy Land, that "...a grievous retribution awaits you..." as they "...taste ye, what your hands have wrought!"

And make no mistake about it, the Holy One singled out America for special praise!

88 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:32:37pm

#84 abu maven

"However" alone ensures that anyone who bites on that (w/o a lawyer) is a fool (IMHO), and that you'll never go hungry. (1 in any town

Not to be a contard, but:

LAW & LAWYER
[Link: www.twainquotes.com...]
[Link: www.twainquotes.com...]

I believe you keep a lawyer. I have always kept a lawyer, too, though I have never made anything out of him. It is a service to an author to have a lawyer. There is something so disagreeable in having a personal contact with a publisher. So it is better to work through a lawyer--and lose your case.
- Mark Twains Speeches, "Author's Club"
To succeed in other trades, capacity must be shown; in the law, concealment of it will do.
- Following the Equator
They all laid their heads together like as many lawyers when they are gettin' ready to prove that a man's heirs ain't got any right to his property.
- Thomas Jefferson Snodgrass letter, Keokuk Saturday Post, Nov. 1, 1856
Heaven knows insanity was disreputable enough, long ago; but now that the lawyers have got to cutting every gallows rope and picking every prison lock with it, it is become a sneaking villainy that ought to hang and keep on hanging its sudden possessors until evil-doers should conclude that the safest plan was to never claim to have it until they came by it legitimately. The very calibre of the people the lawyers most frequently try to save by the insanity subterfuge ought to laugh the plea out of the courts, one would think.
- "Unburlesquable Things," The Galaxy Magazine, July 1870
Lawyers are like other people--fools on the average; but it is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other.
-quoted in Sam Clemens of Hannibal, Dixon Wecter
Those people....early stricken of God, intellectually--the departmental interpreters of the laws in Washington...can always be depended on to take any reasonably good law and interpret the common sense all out of it.
- Unmailed letter to H. C. Christiancy, 12/18/1887
We have an insanity plea that would have saved Cain.
- 4th of July speech, 1873
Really, what we want now, is not laws against crime, but a law against insanity.
- "A New Crime"
If we only had some God in the country's laws, instead of being in such a sweat to get him into the Constitution, it would be better all around.
- Letter to W. D. Howells, 9/18/1875
The laws of Nature, that is to say the laws of God, plainly made every human being a law unto himself, we must steadfastly refuse to obey those laws, and we must as steadfastly stand by the conventions which ignore them, since the statutes furnish us peace, fairly good government, and stability, and therefore are better for us than the laws of God, which would soon plunge us into confusion and disorder and anarchy if we should adopt them.
- Mark Twain in Eruption
In this topsy-turvy, crazy, illogical world, Man has made laws for himself. He has fenced himself round with them, mainly with the idea of keeping communities together, and gain for the strongest. No woman was consulted in the making of laws. And nine-tenths of the people who are daily obeying--or fighting against--Nature's laws, have no real opinion. Opinion means deduction, after weighing the matter, and deep thought upon it. They simply echo feeling, because for generations forbears have laid something down as an axiom. They do not investigate or weigh for themselves. The axiom of the forbears was, 'It is immoral to follow God's law, unless bound by man's law and a wedding ring.'
- quoted in Mark Twain on Three Weeks, Elinor Glyn
It would not be possible for Noah to do in our day what he was permitted to do in his own...The inspector would come and examine the Ark, and make all sorts of objections.
- "About All Kinds of Ships," 1892
...the administration of the law can never go lax where every individual sees to it that it grows not lax in his own case, or in cases which fall under his eyes.
- Mark Twain's Notebook
89 Abu Maven  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:40:04pm

My point all along has been that Zombie owns the copyright in his/her pictures as soon as those pictures are created, without doing anything else.

What's a contard?

90 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:40:19pm
91 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:42:42pm
92 DistantThunder  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:46:00pm

To all Islamists ala Tamimi - I too refuse to kneel - (inspired by this mother at the Beslan Massacre)

Larisa felt fury. She would not let him die. She shouted at a terrorist across the room. "We need water and bandages!" she said. No one answered. She shouted again. She was breaking rules. The terrorist approached. "Why are you yelling?" he said.

"I need bandages," she said.

"Are you the bravest person here, or the smartest?" he said. "We will check. "His voice turned sharp: " Stand up!”

Bolloyev grabbed her shirt. "Do not go," he said. Larisa slipped free and stood, and the terrorist shoved her with his rifle toward a corner where confiscated cameras and phones had been piled and smashed.

"What are you doing?" she demanded.

He ordered her to kneel. "No," she said.

For this Bolloyev had been shot. "I told you," he said. "Get on your knees."

"No," she said.

For a moment they faced each other, the terrorist and the mother, locked in mental battle. She looked into his mask; freckles were visible near his eyes. A hush fell over the gym. The hostages had seen Betrozov's murder. Now came Larisa's turn. The terrorist raised his The terrorist raised his Kalashnikov, past her chest, past her face, stopping at her forehead. He pressed the muzzle against her brow. Larisa felt the circle of steel on her skin.

Bolloyev propped himself on an elbow. Larisa's children looked on. She reached up, grasped the barrel, and moved it away. "What kind of spectacle are you playing here, and in front of whom?" she snapped. "There are women and children here who are already scared.”

The terrorist paused. Thinking quickly, she tried to convince him that Ossetians were not enemies of Chechens, a difficult task, given that enmity between Ossetians, a Christian people with a history of fidelity to Moscow, and the Islamic Chechens and Ingush, who have long been persecuted, is deep. "Your children rest in our sanatoriums," she said. "Your women give birth here.”

"Not our wives and children," the terrorist said. "They are the spawn of Kadyrov."

The word stung. Kadyrov—the surname of former rebels who aligned with Russia and became the Kremlin's proxies. The separatists despised them with a loathing reserved for traitors. Larisa was stumped. Abdullah had been rushing across the gym; he stepped beside them. "What is happening here?" he said.

"This guy wants to execute me because I asked for water and bandages for the wounded," she said. Abdullah studied the two: his young gunman, the woman who stared him down.

"There is nothing for you here," he said. "Go back and sit down and shut up.”

She pointed to his bloodied arm. "Your arm is bandaged," she said. "Give me some of those bandages.”

"You did not understand me?" he said. "There is nothing for you here. Go back and sit down and shut up.”

Larisa returned to her place. Her children stared at her. Bolloyev lay back down. His lips were violet, his forehead coated in sweat. His death could not be far away. She was enraged.

93 DistantThunder  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:46:58pm

Con't - from the Esquire article - The School

94 Irene NYC  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:48:45pm

#75 zombie

You said it yourself. You never expected for-profits to use your work. In light of the fact that they are, you are within your rights to charge as you see fit for the reproduction of your work. So, for example, you would charge nothing for non-profit ventures (so long as you are credited) and charge market price for for-profit ventures. The point to putting something on each page is to give notice to people that you are enforcing your copyright. How you enforce it is up to you. Here's one option (I'm just writing this up quickly, but you get the idea.)

You are free to reproduce photographs and text found on this website for non-commercial purposes as defined by the IRS. If you would like to purchase permission to reproduce photos and/or text found on this website for commercial purposes, please contact _________.

95 rayra[deleted]  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:50:32pm
96 Irene NYC  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:51:42pm

zombie

Oh, and zombie. Don't forget you have a LOT of friends on the www. If Fox doesn't treat you with respect, the blogosphere will get on their case pronto!

;)

97 km  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:52:59pm

OT

I was looking for a video clip I think it was called

'yallah ya Nasrallah'

It had IDF forces doing their stuff.

Anybody have a link to it.

98 Irene NYC  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:55:59pm

#97 km

Here's Yalla Ya Nasrallah on YouTube. Just click on confirm.

;)

99 km  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:57:01pm

Thanks Irene :-))

100 zombie  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 8:58:42pm
#94 Irene NYC
You are free to reproduce photographs and text found on this website for non-commercial purposes as defined by the IRS. If you would like to purchase permission to reproduce photos and/or text found on this website for commercial purposes, please contact _________.

Well, there are actually reasons why I don't want to have a notice like that. If I am explicitly offering my photos for "purchase," then my site could legally be viewed as a commercial enterprise by the IRS, and suddenly it gets complicated, as then zombietime becomes a real business. If, on the other hand, everything is done unofficially, or not as a tit-for-tat transaction, then it's a different story. Sort of like how nonprofits ask for a "voluntary donation" to go to their events. If a commercial site uses my matertial, and then out of the goodness of their hearts makes a "donation" to my account, which is used exclusively to pay the hosting bills, then it doesn't really count as a "business."

For now, I'll just let things be sloppy and unofficial. Really, it's more work than it's worth. I should just count myself lucky that the world wants to see my pictures, when 99.9% of the stuff on the Web is seen by only friends and family of the blogger doing it.

101 Spiny Norman  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:05:50pm

Carlos Mencia has a reply for the Screaming Tamimi.

102 Irene NYC  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:07:00pm

zombie

Obviously, you know what makes you comfortable in your work.

May I just gently suggest that you contact Fox and point out to them that it might be in their best interest to make a donatation from time to time because then you could dedicate more time getting super fantastic photos that they could show their viewers and less time earning money to fund the website. Hint. Hint.

I really admire your work and wish you all the best.

;)

103 rsquare  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:09:05pm

Just got out of a 2.5 year legal proceeding with a crazy artist over copyright.
I know more about it than I ever wanted to know.
The pix were zombie's while they were still in the camera.
Zombie can't start up a corporation to copyright them without revealing his/her identity, due to the fact that corporations are supposed to be transparent, or relatively so.

Abu Maven, could Zombie set the pix up in a trust administered by a public figure or organization,like, say Charles or LGF?

I don't know that much about it, but I do know that with the use of the pix, fox news should ensure that zombietime news NEVER EVER runs out of funds, EVER.

BTW, great pix Zombie


rsquare

104 Irene NYC  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:09:52pm

zombie

I have a possible story idea for you. Is there any place I can send it?

105 little old engineer  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:10:29pm

Muslim terrorist or Islamic fascists


One does not have to be a Buddhist or Hindu or even a Christian to know what hate does to the body of a person.


I watch my grandmother cause her left leg to die because of hate that was in her. She did not live long when the hate started consuming her.


I know in my heart that hate can only lead to destruction. These people are teaching their hatred to their children and to the world. They are hoping that the world will take up this banner of HATE. It can only lead to the destruction of those people. I have seen what happens to people that take on that type of rage that is build on HATE. They become less then human – they become so angry because the hatred in them becomes all consuming.


Yes they can cause a lot of trouble in the world and will.


We as Americans can not let hatred destroy Israel.


It would mean that we do not deserve the freedoms we have. If we stand by and let Israel be destroyed. Then we as American people would take that hatred and turn it in on ourselves.


WE WOULD DIE.


I have to believe that the people that are running this world would know that.


We are 300 million people that LOVE our Children and wish the best for them. Here we have 5 or 6 million people that wish for peace and they Love their Children. We can not let Hate destroy them.

106 Cognito Primoris  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:12:49pm

#101 Spiny Norman

I've been looking for that video since I saw the whole show in the spring!

Dittos Carlos! That's a man who has it together.

107 jimmytheclaw  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:13:26pm


#94 Irene NYC 8/15/2006 10:48PM PDT

#75 zombie

You said it yourself. You never expected for-profits to use your work. In light of the fact that they are, you are within your rights to charge as you see fit for the reproduction of your work. So, for example, you would charge nothing for non-profit ventures (so long as you are credited) and charge market price for for-profit ventures. The point to putting something on each page is to give notice to people that you are enforcing your copyright. How you enforce it is up to you. Here's one option (I'm just writing this up quickly, but you get the idea.)

You are free to reproduce photographs and text found on this website for non-commercial purposes as defined by the IRS. If you would like to purchase permission to reproduce photos and/or text found on this website for commercial purposes, please contact _________.


and i bet someone here or elsewhere can make you a watermark with your web url in it kinda like getty pictures then to not use the watermark they have to hit your tip jar.

108 zombie  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:17:05pm
#102 Irene NYC
May I just gently suggest that you contact Fox and point out to them that it might be in their best interest to make a donatation from time to time because then you could dedicate more time getting super fantastic photos that they could show their viewers and less time earning money to fund the website. Hint. Hint.

#103 rsquare
I don't know that much about it, but I do know that with the use of the pix, fox news should ensure that zombietime news NEVER EVER runs out of funds, EVER.

I'll take both you guys' advice and send them a letter. Very passive-aggressive, nicely worded. More menacing that way. The worst that could happen is they ignore me. I doubt anything will come of it but hey -- at least I can say I tried.

109 zombie  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:18:46pm
#104 Irene NYC
zombie
I have a possible story idea for you. Is there any place I can send it?

zombie at zombietime d0t c0m.

110 The Green Hornet  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:22:39pm

Ya know stuff like this coming from Muslims just doesn't shock me... what does though is the anti-Zionists strategically placed throughout them but well within cameraview (as you can notice by a convenient zoom in.

Islamic terror is a curse upon the western world but especially Jews, and one that is unfortunately always undeserved. As long as there can be even a small amount of religious Jews who would attend a rally in support of such heinous Jew-killers there will be problems. If Jews themselves don't value protecting each others' lives, why should G-d?

/Don't mean to offend, simply to vent

111 infopimp  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:22:57pm

Zombie: how about just making it "linkware" - if they use your photos, they have to give your URL... on web, as a clickable link, on Fox as a URL displayed in the subtitle during duration of display.

Simple, non-profit, keeps you safe and helps the cause.

112 The Green Hornet  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:23:47pm

#110
Sorry, meant to say not always undeserved

113 Max DarkSide  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:26:33pm

Enuf of this Azzam Tamimi guy. I wanna Light House! with a fence! with Oil tankers! and I want it NOW!

/childish temper tantrum

114 Abu Maven  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:26:39pm

108 Zombie,

Careful what you do. By sending a "passive-aggressive" letter, you may inadvertently waive your rights or create an estoppel situation, not only as to these photos, but possibly as to future photos.

I would consider talking to a copyright lawyer before doing anything.

115 Max DarkSide  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:31:14pm
I would consider talking to a copyright lawyer before doing anything.


Particularly if you didn't take the fauxtos, though fair use may apply, there are certainly limits to that when direct compensation is involved. Not likely a real clear sitchiasion.

/engineer, not lawyer

116 raidergirl  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:31:35pm

This should not surprise anyone, we see anti-Israel everywhere! God Bless America, Israel, my sweet bro, and my pops!Go America & Israel! Keep all I Love Safe!

117 jimmytheclaw  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:38:02pm

#109 zombie 8/15/2006 11:18PM PDT

#104 Irene NYC
zombie
I have a possible story idea for you. Is there any place I can send it?

zombie at zombietime d0t c0m.

i'm thinking of transfering some of your clips along with all the others to build a dvd (my new toy) with my burner but like obsession i'll just give em away with a foillow up on what was thought of em a watermark like on memri videos would be nice though i gotta figure out how to do that

118 jimmytheclaw  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:39:38pm

all the others are ones i can download or find laying around the net

119 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:39:39pm

*sigh*, In the doghouse again with the family, since the found out I re-registered as a Republican. I told them I couldn't stand the Venom coming out of the DNC anymore. plus I've unconditionally supported Israel since day one.

Even tho Grandma's side of the family is jewish and went through the holocaust.

*sigh* My family is full of moonbats

120 Abu Maven  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:40:03pm

115 Max,

Fox's use of Zombie's photos constitutes clear copyright infringement. A fair use argument would not fly.

Signing off for the night.

121 freedomplow  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:46:53pm

OT:

The soldier that exposed Abu Ghraib is making his rounds in the media...

Newsflash... He said it was not the fault of Rumsfield or Bush.

Someone dig up every filthy nasty thing that the libs said about Abu Ghraib.

122 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:50:49pm

#114 abu maven >< zombie

Cha-Ching!

;^)

123 Max DarkSide  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:52:00pm

#120 Abu Maven

Fox's use of Zombie's photos constitutes clear copyright infringement. A fair use argument would not fly.


I suppose if they are "Zombie-Originals" of flocking bats flying off to the moon. I bet Fox ran WORLD NAKED BIKE RIDE 2006 at the top of the hour! Thumbs up to those guys (hahaha... thumbs... up...)

/time fer another beer

124 zombie  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 9:56:11pm

And the zombietime hits just keep on comin'!

A secret contributor just sent, a month after the fact, a video from the July 13 anti-Israel protest, with subtitles in English of what the Palestinians are saying in Arabic:

Full protest report with video embedded.

Just the video all by itself, on YouTube.

Translation:

Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine, Palestine!
125 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 10:01:57pm

#120 abu maven

Sorry if you're off-line, but I gotta call BS again. Just as devil's advocate... Fox could say and show that zombie has freely allowed others to link, post, copy-n-paste for over a yr with no due diligence. They might show that on his site and Charles', zombie is begging MSM to show the truth, taunting why do none of them show the truth from the scenes, etc.

/better consult a lawyer before you do anything, even take well-meaning and free advice and free/automatic copy-righting.

In the meantime, if you care to, take simple steps of circle-C'ing everything, making pics un-right-clickable, and watermarking. Watermarking is simple in almost any software, click on Help and follow the prompts.

126 RadicalRon  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 10:02:13pm
#52 Abu Maven

Actually, Zombie owns a copyright in his/her pictures automatically, even without taking any steps. That said, it is always advisable to place a copyright symbol on the work with the year of the copyright and name of the copyright holder (which, presumably, could blow Zombie's identity).

copyright 2006 zombietime.com is all that's needed.

127 RadicalRon  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 10:06:53pm
#119 Jewels (aka Julian)


*sigh*, In the doghouse again with the family, since the found out I re-registered as a Republican. I told them I couldn't stand the Venom coming out of the DNC anymore. plus I've unconditionally supported Israel since day one.

Even tho Grandma's side of the family is jewish and went through the holocaust.

*sigh* My family is full of moonbats


Have a sit-down with them and discuss the possible significance of August 22. Wall Street Journal had an excellent article about it last week.

128 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 10:24:23pm

OT
Chavez was happy to see me!
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

129 Manker  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 10:40:02pm

Israel threatens to resume war if Hizbullah refuses to disarm

While this might sound good, I cannot in good conscience actually support this incompetent gov't to do this.

The fact is that Hizb'allah has already reflooded the area, the constant stop and go style of playing with army destroy's all strategies, and the fact is that Olmert has shown that he cannot go all the way.

Until a new leader is elected, we should not go back in. His incompetence will just cost the lives of more soldiers which come out to situation where no real gains will come.

Until he's gone, forget it.

130 Westward Ho  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 10:42:38pm

Little Old Engineer,

"I watch my grandmother cause her left leg to die because of hate that was in her."

If it is not too personal I am intrigued.

131 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 10:49:07pm

Olmert is an incompetent tit and needs to get booted

132 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 10:52:04pm

#129 manker:

Yeah, that about sums it up.

Besides, can you tell me WHY THE F*CK we agreed to a cease-fire, which was so obviously flimsy and held NO GUARANTEE WHATSOEVER that the Hezbos disarm?

It truly boggles the mind...

How's Haifa this morning?

133 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 10:56:12pm

Hello everybody.
I have a question to anyone who can answer; about this video.
Aren't there some Jews around this preacher of hate? If that's so, what are they doing there? They seem to be a part of the crowd listening to that screeching fellow. They seem to be Orthodox Jews, by the way.

134 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:04:38pm

#124 zombie:

And the zombietime hits just keep on comin'!

A secret contributor just sent, a month after the fact, a video from the July 13 anti-Israel protest, with subtitles in English of what the Palestinians are saying in Arabic:

Full protest report with video embedded.

Just the video all by itself, on YouTube.

Translation:

Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine, Palestine!

How cute. The paliscum and their supporters have such a keen sense of history.

The lines above are identical to the shouts of the Chevron (Hebron) mob, which massacred 67 of the town's Jews in 1929... Lookie here:

The next year, the British government rewarded this fanatical terrorist by appointing him Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. Following that, he organized more pogroms, including the 1929 Hebron massacre, during which the murderers chanted, "The [British] government is with us!" and "Palestine is our land and the Jews are our dogs!" These chants express the essence of Haj Amin Al-Husseini's movement, passed down to Arafat and his followers: not a national liberation movement, but a movement dependent on great power sponsors, with a goal of crushing the 'dogs' - "our dogs" - who violated the Dhimma by acting as free people.[7]

Oh,

135 big L  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:06:32pm

Oh it is just the flowery way they speak. Don't pay attention to the death threats and end-of-time rhetoric. That is just the Arabs way of negotiating.

/what my friends say when I bring up this stuff.
Also why do you beilieve the interenet sites? If it was true it would be in the L.A. Times, right?

136 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:07:48pm

#133 Miguel:

Hola, mi hermano!

Un Dead Thread muy tranquil hoy :P

Como estas?

137 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:09:32pm

Golden Jerusalem
Bien gracias hermano ¿y tú qué tal? :)
Sí, está tranquilo hoy ;)

138 big L  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:17:11pm

45-goodbye_natalie--I sure hope so. I draw strength from your post. Thanks. I ahve been in the dumps over the cease-fire and the uS govt role in it.

139 justj  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:17:18pm

just so you lads know, this was the video me and a mate filmed at the al quds hate rally in traf sq in october last year. i have a good few images on my archives if you wanna use em, mostly hezb supporters. also this was only a small clip from the whole 40 min video. if you wanna see the whole thing then leave a comment on my blog and if i get enough requests i'll repost it.

140 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:17:59pm

I just sent this to Reuters.

Your coverage of what is happening in Mexico is so biased that repels anyone who knows what's going on. Everything is protrated from the view point of the law-breaking left, as if the rest of Mexico didn't exist. This is truly an insult to the Mexican people. You say that the rebellious candidate had 14-15 million votes. Never a word about the more than 50 million who repudiate his actions. I read at a site that Reuters is very biased, and I sort of didn't believe it, but reading your coverage of Mexico, only from one side, the illegal side at that, I realize that it is true! Reuters is pandering to one side of society, the smaller, psychotic side, violating the right of the mayority to be heard and to have, at the very least, equal time and concern.
The nick Al-Reuters is right on. You are disgustingly biased.
Congratulations, you are actively working for your own dismissal.
From now on, I won't take anything Reuters says as true.
Lie-Reuters, Fanatic-Reuters, Enemy of Decency-Reuters.

141 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:19:30pm

#137 Miguel:

Estoy bien, gracias. Quizas tu recuerdas que la maestra de mi clase es mexicana?

Aprendo intensivo ahora. Tres veces cada semana.

142 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:21:41pm

Golden J.
Sí recuerdo. Te dije que le preguntes que de qué ciudad es originaria :p
Vas a avanzar muy rápido, estoy seguro. Ya conoces bastante español y hablas varias lenguas, de manera que pronto serás experto en la lengua. ;)

143 big L  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:23:02pm

66 Allah Fu Bar--Yeah Notice that they always parade and demonstrate and preach hate and goofy arrogant comments in locales where there are strict gun control laws.

144 Manker  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:30:30pm

#132 Golden Jerusalem

Yeah, that about sums it up.

Besides, can you tell me WHY THE F*CK we agreed to a cease-fire, which was so obviously flimsy and held NO GUARANTEE WHATSOEVER that the Hezbos disarm?

Well thats actually another point.

Why are we threatening to go back again, when we just agreed to stop? Why did we agree to stop on these idiotic conditions?

Rumor states that Bush couldn't handle Olmerts incompetence anymore and just stopped the war.

Had we had someone with competence handeled this, the war would have been over, Nasrallah while possibly still alive would be too afraid to even send videos, and Iran & Arab league would be threatening an Oil embargo again, to literally force Israel to stop.

It truly boggles the mind...

It makes my head want to explode.

How's Haifa this morning?

Nice, but still very quite, busses are running but the stops are pretty empty. Theres a trickle of traffic but not much else.

145 Manker  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:37:29pm

Now this is good news,

MK Uri Ariel drafts bill for dissolution of 17th Knesset

Chairman of National Unity, MK Uri Ariel, drafted a bill for the dissolution of the 17th Knesset.

According to him, "The management of the political establishment during the war in the north, its results, its achievements, and the treatment of the home front, were a failure in the minds of many. The Israeli public thinks that severe mistakes have been made for which the leaders need to be held responsible. This failure necessitates a renewed expression of the nation's faith in the political and military process that will be made from here on in."

69 percent: Establish inquiry committee

A Yedioth Aharonoth poll reveals support for prime minister decreasing. 57 percent think Peretz should resign. Many demand accountability among leadership


Personally while I believe that most of the top military echelon has to go. I think we have to dismantle the disengagement gov't from a top down perspective. We have to first remove the idiots at the top and then work our way down.

While Halutz has been made into a scape goat, he should be punished later. And replaced by Kaplinsky.

Udi Adam should have his name cleared, he had a plan but the failures in this case were definitely not his, and it was not right for Olmert to scapegoat him early.

The General staff has to be changed. The main positions at the top have to be held by mainly infantry and special forces commanders. Obviously Navy and Airforce should be there but I don't think they should be allowed to become Chiefs of Staff.

146 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:47:56pm

#142 Miguel:

Sí recuerdo. Te dije que le preguntes que de qué ciudad es originaria :p
Vas a avanzar muy rápido, estoy seguro. Ya conoces bastante español y hablas varias lenguas, de manera que pronto serás experto en la lengua. ;)

Si, ella es de Ciudad de Mexico, pero ahora ya Israeli :P

Oh, hable con mi hermana en el telefono ayer (despues de una dia largo :P).

Ella habla espanol perfecto. Que guay! :D

Hay el elemento de competicion entre nostromos, jeje.

147 wordwarp  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:50:08pm

Al-Qaeda meets Seinfeld: Man Hands

148 Manker  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:53:24pm

Very interesting, especially considering the August 22nd date.

Iranian general: We will soon carry out large military exercise

I remember reading about "out of the blue" operations. Where basically an army that is performing military exercises all of sudden during that exercise launches a military assault.

Does anyone think this mass mobilization could lead to an attack agaisnt US forces in Iraq, followed in conjunction with missile strikes, Hizb'allah attack again, and the Mehdi army also coming out to attack all at the same time?

And maybe even Syria would join in, but I'd really doubt it.

149 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:53:32pm

#146 Golden Jerusalem
Ok,por favor saluda a la maestra de parte de otro "chilango" (es el nombre para los nacidos en la Ciudad de México jeje).
La competencia con tu hermana es buena, así tienes más estímulo para perfeccionar tu español. ;)

150 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:57:21pm

The Mahdi died in 1885.

151 Golden Jerusalem  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:58:16pm

#144 manker:

Yeah I reckon we pretty much are on the same page when it comes to olmert/Peretz/That Gang of A$$holes...

I still can't believe Peretz' Syria comments, dear God... what a horrifyingly moronic thing to come from a guy, who is supposed to be the top defense official of this country.

No wonder this war was one gigantic fashla...

[HAIFA]Nice, but still very quite, busses are running but the stops are pretty empty. Theres a trickle of traffic but not much else.

I'm glad to hear. I hope the city gets back to its normal life real soon.

I like Haifa and I felt very sad for the city and its residents suffering during the attacks.

152 Mike C.  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:59:35pm

Good morning, dead thread.

153 zulubaby  Tue, Aug 15, 2006 11:59:57pm

A ceasefire whereby Hizbollah refuses to disarm. Delightful. We must be insane to have agreed to this. The IDF knows they’re going to have to go at least one more round, yeah?

154 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:00:10am

#133 MigueldowninMexico

They are most likely anti-Zionists... it's a small and misguided sect of religious Jews who believe that Jews should not create a state in the land of Israel until the Messiah comes. I don't know much about the details but I think they base this belief off a single source and maybe even one quote.

In the meantime they fail to recognize the great gift that the modern day state of Israel is to the Jewish people, even in light of it's many many flaws. If nothing else having that many Jews in one place allows them the opportunity to fulfill an incredible amount of mitzvot that are next to impossible to do anywhere else (except perhaps isolated communities in New York and LA). Jews can also perform the miztvah of living in Ereztz Yisrael (the land of Israel) which can not be performed anywhere else and the fact that they have a strong military means that persecuted Jews anywhere in the world now have a safe haven.

Some of them even have the chutzpah of living in Israel while they denounce the state! G-d willing someday they will wise up and work to help reform Israel into a place they more desire instead of simply finding ways to destroy it.

155 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:01:08am

Hello there Mike
I'm glad you are home ok ;)
And I'm glad the birds sing only iin spring lol

156 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:02:17am

# 148 Manker

Possible, but doubtful. I expect them to say something, and I for one wouldn't be surprised if they claimed to have a functional nuke. I don't think they do, but I also don't think that matters a whole lot.

157 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:05:28am

#133 MigueldowninMexico

Here's some more information...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta

158 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:07:11am

The Green Hornet
Thanks a lot for the explanation!
I had read somewhere about that group which seemed almost impossible to exist, but here we have images of them conniving with the enemies of the Jewish people. Incredible. I have the impression that some people are living in a different reality, which is usually a clinical case.
I agree very much with all of your comments in your #154. You have to be crazy to be an anti-Israel Jew.
Thanks for all the data, a very thoughtful and complete answer. :)

159 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:09:15am

tapping the floor impaciently
Someone's going to miss her Hershey's ration today. Hmpf.

160 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:10:17am

The Green Hornet
Thanks for the link :)

161 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:11:35am
162 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:13:23am

In 2002, during Israel's "Operation Defensive Shield", the Israeli military captured numerous documents [2] from the headquarters of Arafat which demonstrated that Rabbi Moshe Hirsch was on Arafat's payroll and received payments totaling $55,000. Rabbi Hirsch's son, however, denied that any payment was accepted
AHA! Follow the money.
Selling your own people. We all have traitors like those. And they are utterly disgusting.

163 Manker  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:14:26am

#151 Golden Jerusalem

Yeah I reckon we pretty much are on the same page when it comes to olmert/Peretz/That Gang of A$$holes...

I still can't believe Peretz' Syria comments, dear God... what a horrifyingly moronic thing to come from a guy, who is supposed to be the top defense official of this country.

No wonder this war was one gigantic fashla...

Yup, as Liberman said, those comments continue to show his lack of connection to reality.

I'm glad to hear. I hope the city gets back to its normal life real soon.

I like Haifa and I felt very sad for the city and its residents suffering during the attacks.

It was sad, but I can't be sure everything will be normal because of the issues of another round coming about.

The best we can hope for is that the vote of no confidence will take place soon, and will be successful.

#153 zulubaby

A ceasefire whereby Hizbollah refuses to disarm. Delightful. We must be insane to have agreed to this.

I can say this with complete confidence. We [The people of Israel] never agreed to this. Only Olmert and his lackey's did. He does not represent the Israeli people, and had no right to do so.

But in some ways it is better that he did. The army can regroup, learn from their mistakes, reorganize, get rid of olmert, and prepare for the next round.

Hopefully we'll be able to install trophy on the merkava, and revise tactics. We have to start fighting more as small lighting squads constantly moving and attacking, with heavy use of snipers.

The IDF knows they’re going to have to go at least one more round, yeah?

Yup,

IDF says free to hit Syrian arms convoys

164 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:17:06am
In 2000 and in 2006, Hirsch's Neturei Karta visited Iran. During the 2006 visit, they praised Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and expressed solidarity with the Iranian position of anti-Zionism and Ahmadinejad's calls for the political destruction of the Israeli state. [5] Observers have pointed out a key difference between Iran's position and that held by some members of Neturei Karta; the latter use the term 'dismantling' to refer to a peaceful removal of the state of Israel, as opposed to Iran, which has not excluded violent abolition of the state of Israel.


Gee! They are my heroes!
Sob's. They hang around with the best company.

165 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:33:19am

Demonrats get in trouble with Hispanics LOL
That'll serve them well lol.

166 mkm19602000  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:35:33am

Hey Mike C,

I guess that I am going to have to start watching my local news. I clicked over to look at Drudge and Osamma Obama was across the river in Metropolis. I stopped watching the News here a long time ago they do perky Couric type news. Like fingernails on a chalkboard. Yikes!

167 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:36:40am

Clinton and Gates praise Bush on Aids!

168 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:39:16am

Meanwhile, science out the wazoo ! Be sure and click on the Top Ten icon to see what's happening at (over ?) the edge.

169 mkm19602000  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:41:12am

Miguel I guess you and I are the only people left awake on the internet. Or at least it feels that way. LOL

170 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:44:29am

And, of course, no morning is complete without a little paleontology.

Okay, I'm done. Back to your regularly scheduled coverage of WW IV.

171 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:45:19am

mkm19602000 - I'm here lurking, along with 1556 others. Do you ever feel like someone is reading over your shoulder?

:0

j

172 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:45:26am

mkm
LOL. There are more than 1500 people on this site. But most of them aren't registered. Others won't even answer you when you greet them ¬¬, such as Mike C. for instance.
Let's keep on posting, thus giving life to a Dead Thread. LOL

/And what do you do in life?
-I keep moribund threads alive...

173 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:47:56am

Hi Miguel

How is everything with you?

j

174 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:50:42am

jfromfolsomca
I'm fine, thank you! :)
Giving CPR to the thread lol
How about you?

175 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:50:58am

#172 MigueldowninMexico

Haha, I just moved back down to school today for the new fall semester, it's 3 in the morning Tucson time, and my ADD is begging for any distraction possible to keep me from getting around to unpacking...

In otherwords you keep posting and I'll keep reading :p

176 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:53:08am

Green Hornet
Then, let me tell you the story of my life...
ROFL ;)

177 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:53:30am

Great - morning flack. Hello, Miguel. Sheesh !

178 Ackomanyuki  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:54:33am

#134 Golden Jerusalem


#124 zombie:

And the zombietime hits just keep on comin'!

A secret contributor just sent, a month after the fact, a video from the July 13 anti-Israel protest, with subtitles in English of what the Palestinians are saying in Arabic:

Full protest report with video embedded.

Just the video all by itself, on YouTube.

Translation:

Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is Arab!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine is our land!
The Jews are our dogs!
Palestine, Palestine!

How cute. The paliscum and their supporters have such a keen sense of history.

The lines above are identical to the shouts of the Chevron (Hebron) mob, which massacred 67 of the town's Jews in 1929... Lookie here:

The next year, the British government rewarded this fanatical terrorist by appointing him Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. Following that, he organized more pogroms, including the 1929 Hebron massacre, during which the murderers chanted, "The [British] government is with us!" and "Palestine is our land and the Jews are our dogs!" These chants express the essence of Haj Amin Al-Husseini's movement, passed down to Arafat and his followers: not a national liberation movement, but a movement dependent on great power sponsors, with a goal of crushing the 'dogs' - "our dogs" - who violated the Dhimma by acting as free people.[7]

Oh,


I heard the same thing being shouted at the Arab 'Land day" demonstration in Wadi Nis Nas, Haifa in 1992. I asked a Marronite friend who I was watching the demonstrating with, " what are they chanting"? He told me the above translated historical revisionism and racial threat/smear. it was quite disturbing actually, as this was pre-Oslo during the peaceful lull after the first Intifada. In addition, another disturbing factor was that, it was in Haifa a city remarkable for its relative decent relations between Jews and Arabs. Most of the marchers were young. I had a camera swatted out of my hand by a passing protestor as I raised it to take a picture. Good thing it was a Nikkormat FT2, it survived with a small dent. I didn't take any more photos after that. The marchers looked quite fierce and displeased. This was my first taste of the depravity and fanaticism that exists in the hearts of these people. It was not my last lesson of many that would inform my naiveté and innocence. I later experienced many more acts by Paleos that shook me to the core. If there intentions were to cower it didn't work. My initial fear turned to anger, and eventually lead to me disarming and throwing an adolescent Paleo who brandished a knife during an argument outside of Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, over the sidewalk rail, and down the hill below were the public restrooms are across the road from the gate. I don't know what his fate was and I couldn't care. I felt threatened and eliminated the threat. What I did out of a need for self preservation is so mething that the West needs to do on a much larger scale. But alas, we are still dreamy, good intentioned, nice people.

After what I learned while living in Israel for only three years, I cannot fathom how anyone living in Israel can remain a pacifist/leftist against such a blatant existential threat as the Arabs. That such Israelis still exist is a testamenet to the good character and steadfastness of Jews in general, and Israelis in particular.

Now they are spouting that Shiite hear in America, again trying to intimidate and revise the truth of matters. It would be great to get a group of Protest Warriors to stand across the street from them (with a phalanx of police between) and return their revisionist/racist ranting as a corollary argument:

Israel'uh Yehudiyyah
Israel'uh Yehudiyyah
Israel'uh bladnuh
Wa’al Arabiyyah klaubnuh
Israel,Israel!

I wonder what their reaction would be?

179 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:55:32am

Miguel

Fox news is going in the background and I'm cracking open a Mickey's tall can... go ahead, I'm not going anywhere for a while

180 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:55:58am

Has anybody seen this magnificent speech by a Colonel in the Army? What a real patriot! It's on Michell Malkin's Vent.

181 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 12:57:03am

I'm fighting a cold right now, but everything else is OK. For the last few weeks, I feel like I'm waiting for the "other" shoe to drop - like something big is going to happen soon. I keep reading the internet, checking FOX (like some people keep checking the door to see if it's locked) - this is totally weird for me to be this way. Usually I'm upbeat and happy with life. If those damn terrorists are going to hit, I wish they would just get it over with, so we could start shooting; and that's an awful thing to think, let alone say.

j

182 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:03:47am

#181 jfromfolsomca

These things pass, I get like that too sometimes but after a while you get burnt out, turn off the tv, shut off the computer, and go outside to take a walk. It's similar to what I hear insomnia is like... eventually it will wear off and until then don't stress too much about it.

Something I've found to help is to try and come up with a resolution to do some kind of personal improvement. It's a nice way to help you feel like you have control in your life when you're bothered by situations you don't have control over.

183 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:04:19am

Mike
:p

184 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:06:27am

Thanks Miguel - that speech had some great words. I feel better knowing there are people like this on our side.

j

185 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:07:36am

j
I'm not American and I felt like crying over hearing that man speak.
I'm also glad there are people like that. :)

186 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:07:54am

OT:

I just heard on FOX that Jesse Jackson is trying to broker a prisoner exchange to get the captured Israeli soldiers back...

... May G-d have mercy on those poor boys

187 BulgarWheat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:10:03am

Good Morning, Lizards!

188 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:10:43am

Boker tov wheat

189 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:11:24am

Thanks Geen Hornet, for your thoughtful words.

Jesse Jackson is such a media whore. Like Israel needs this clown to help them do anything!

j

190 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:11:57am

Green Hornet
That's a good piece of advice. When you are nervous and not knowing what goes, and what to do, try to improve yourself in some way.
Excellent ;)

Right now the feeling in Mexico is just as j puts it: the floating feeling that something is bound to happen.

/I'll resume doing exercise, I guess lol

191 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:13:29am

Miguel - I hope you are out of harms way if any violence breaks out in Mexico re your recent election.

j

192 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:14:40am

coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

193 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:15:17am

j
Thanks a lot my friend! :)
I hope so too. Although I'm decided to defend myself any way I can if things come down to that.
In the meantime, I'll exercise lol.

194 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:15:59am

Good morning littleoldlady.

Do you need some coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, or are you serving it?

j

195 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:16:07am

Miguel

I'll make you a deal... for every mile you run I'll take another sip of my Mickey's. That way when my parents accuse me of drinking too much instead of focusing on class I can tell them that I'm sponsoring an athlete! :p

196 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:16:18am

One hour fourteen minutes late ¬¬

197 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:17:42am

I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed coffeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I'm late, too? OY.

198 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:18:08am

Green Hornet
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Great pretext right? ROFL
All for sports! lol

199 Westward Ho  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:19:01am

Mike C,

No wonder the universe is a crazy place, the lithium is missing.

[Link: www.newscientistspace.com...]

200 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:19:48am

Morning™ evening good every*one afternoon!

Coffee is in the fruitcup ^^^^^
Myself help!

/help!

201 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:19:49am

Hey, littleoldlady.
You have an excellent track record, so you deserve a pass.
Here, get some Gold Nuggets ™ ;)

202 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:20:00am

And on a more "Back in the loop" vein, a nice little editorial RE biased/propaganda reporting from this AM's Washinton Times.

203 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:21:09am

littleoldlady
Guess have you I trouble some...
About tell it me.

204 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:22:07am

# 199 Westward Ho

Read that. And there's the answer - the universe is obviously off it's meds.

205 BulgarWheat  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:22:25am

#188 The Green Hornet

right back at ya!

The cables out at home (TV) not internet, but who cares! Got some nice coffee on and I need to start getting the kids ready for school in about 20 minutes.

Life is good this morning!

206 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:22:35am

GH: At a sip of beer/mile, Miguel is going to have to run a lot of miles before you get in trouble with your parents. Now if it were based on Charles' bike riding log, you just might be in trouble by the end of the first month. LOL

j

207 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:24:35am

School? How late AM I?!

/rip van winkle mode?

Miguel,

Rough week. My mom's sick and in the hospital. The hospital is a couple of hours away.

/are we having fun yet?

208 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:24:38am

jfromfolsomca

My liver is young and headstrong... it's up to the challenge!

209 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:24:41am

First week, j LOL. Charles rides really long distances.

Bulgar Wheat
Good morning! I'm glad you are so happy :)

210 mkm19602000  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:24:54am

Darn I went to check my spam filter, and the place comes back to life.

Yes jp, I do feel like someone is reading over my shoulder, in fact my cat has a habit of placing his posterior on the headrest of the office chair and putting his front paws on my shoulder. LOL he will stay like that for a bit and then start doing things to get my attention so I will entertain him. I know what you are talking about in waiting for the other shoe to drop also, I cannot sleep without bacground noise. I had the tv on earlier and bolted out of bed when they did emergency broadcating test at 2:15AM. I don't know if it's me but it sure seem like they have been testing a lot more frequently than they used to in the past month. I'm sure I am being paranoid about that. LOL

Oh well now the thread is coming to life again I won't have to stray. Good Morning everyone.

211 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:25:18am
212 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:26:42am

littleoldlady
Oh, I'm sorry to read that :(
I hope your mom gets well soon. A prayer for her health and my best wishes.

You get extra Gold Nuggets today ;)

213 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:27:04am

littleoldlady - sorry to hear about your Mom. It's hard not to worry about loved ones, especially with a 2 hour commute to be with her. Hope everything turns out OK for her.

j

214 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:29:02am

Hello ploome!
Mexico is in the brink of a civil war, in the worst-case scenario.
In the best-case she's in for a rough ride the next months.

215 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:30:07am

Hiya j! and Miguel,

Thanks! I think she'll be okay. On the one hand, she's 83 years old. On the other hand, she has a tatoo on her arm that starts with an "A" (for Auschwitz). She's no wuss, my mother.

On the third hand, my back is in spasm and I overslept...

/Wusses R Us

216 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:30:43am

Good bye mkm!

217 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:32:14am

{littleoldlady}

I hope this stands for a hug.

j

218 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:33:21am

littleoldlady
Wow, that tatoo gave me goose pimps. She's quite a woman, indeed. May God bless her.
My mom is 84. I understand your concern.
Let me shake your third hand. I've never greeted a martian :p

219 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:33:29am

I typed a whole bunch of braces on that hug, I wonder why only 2 printed?

j

220 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:33:31am

j,

Watch the back, will ya?!

;-)

/kidding. Thanks!

221 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:33:32am
222 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:36:08am
223 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:36:53am

j
Charles' script won't allow us write several ! or ? or other signs. Only one.
Charles hates exageration LOL.

224 nonic  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:37:30am

Good morning, people.

littleoldlady - sorry to hear - will pray for your mom

Feeling up to 2 doses of bad news, people?

Hezbollah Leads Work to Rebuild, Gaining Stature

BEIRUT, Lebanon, Aug. 15 — As stunned Lebanese returned Tuesday over broken roads to shattered apartments in the south, it increasingly seemed that the beneficiary of the destruction was most likely to be Hezbollah.

A major reason — in addition to its hard-won reputation as the only Arab force that fought Israel to a standstill — is that it is already dominating the efforts to rebuild with a torrent of money from oil-rich Iran.

Memorizing the Way to Heaven [from NYC], Verse by Verse

This one's got so many depressing details, better refill your coffee before you read the whole thing.

The carpeted room is full of children in skullcaps crouched on prayer mats, reciting verses from a holy text. Some mumble the words under their breath; others sing them out. They rock back and forth as they chant, their disparate voices blending into an ethereal melody.

The children, ages 7 to 14, are full-time students, in class 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., Monday through Friday, even in the summer. But they are not studying math, science or English. Instead, they are memorizing all 6,200 verses in the Koran, a task that usually takes two to three years.

I used to be in favor of school vouchers, having sent 5 kids to Catholic school K-12 -- but not anymore.

(Sorry to be Queen of Glum this morning.)

225 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:37:41am

ploome
If you start singing like a bird...

226 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:37:57am

Wow, all of a sudden we went from 1500+ lurkers, to over 4000. Sometimes, the Blue Nowhere is so cool.

j

227 Manker  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:38:11am

Very interesting,

It is true, foresight and stupidity are constantly confused.

Right On: The real blunder in Lebanon

Indeed, by transferring advanced rockets and weaponry to Hizbullah, Teheran and Damascus have just unwittingly proven one of the Bush Administration's central contentions regarding the need for preemptive action against rogue states in the global war on terror.

The two countries have demonstrated that they are ready and willing to share missile systems with a terrorist organization, thus strengthening the case that they must be prevented from obtaining weapons of mass destruction at all costs.

This very point was at the heart of an important speech made by US President George W. Bush last October in which he outlined America's strategy for fighting terror across the globe. Speaking at the National Endowment for Democracy in Washington, Bush made clear that, "we're determined to deny weapons of mass destruction to outlaw regimes, and to their terrorist allies who would use them without hesitation."

Bush was right, and very soon every LLL will grinding their teeth when they see this.

G-D bless the soldiers in the US military and the IDF.

228 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:38:47am

FOX's weather forcast for Iraq today: "It's gonna be hot!"

Does that statement really sound as amusing as I thought it did or is my buzz just kicking in?

229 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:40:23am

nonic
By the description on your second link it's more and more apparent to me that Islam is a CULT.
Brainwashing as I've never seen, except for the likes of David Koresh or Jim Jones.
Poor them, poor us.

The universe is out of its meds, indeed.

230 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:41:03am

Tehran Takes Gloomy View of the Lebanon War and Truce:
[Link: www.debka.com...]

It's off debkafile so it could be bogus but wishful thinking gives me a little bit of consolation reading it...

231 Westward Ho  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:41:26am

Even the failures of cosmology are spectacular, if it were run like a business imagine telling your boss - boss I fucked up slightly I cannot account for 95% of the matter in the universe, 80% of the energy and by the way junk that age of the universe report I gave it to you, I have found out that I forgot to add 2 billion more years to it. O there is a slight discrepancy between the measured values of the cosmological constant and the theoretically predicted one - How much asked the fulminating frothing boss - it is 10 raised to 100 times smaller than predicted..

232 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:41:36am

{Ploomie!}

Thanks. Hope you are well.

233 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:43:32am
234 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:43:38am

#224 nonic

He envisions the children in the school becoming not just religious leaders but doctors, lawyers and engineers, helping to bridge the gap between the Muslim world and American society. “We want them to be leaders in all different kinds of roles.”

How in the hell does he think they can become doctors, lawyers, or engineers, without real schooling (e.g., math, science, language). Memorizing the koran isn't going to teach them how to build a bridge, only blow one up.

j

235 nonic  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:45:10am

A little (unexpected) oxygen in today's NYT...

Op-Ed piece by Irshad Manji, Muslim Myopia.

236 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:46:10am

Well, the thread resurrected indeed.
Time for me to hit the bunk ;)
Good bye everybody and God bless all. :)

237 mkm19602000  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:46:43am

I said stray,not stay that means I'm notleaving. LOL Miguel I downloaded the LTC White's speech from the base website. He is a truth teller, just like General Honore was after Katrina. I wish our society honored men like them instead of the latte and biscotti crowd LTC White talked about.

littleoldlady, hug your mom for me. Hope she is well soon.

238 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:47:13am

ploomie,

Zicam™! Ever try it? I get bad colds when I get them, and that stuff knocks it down to a two-day experience.

239 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:47:55am
240 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:49:28am
241 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:49:31am

# 231 Westward Ho

If it were easy, they'd let an engineer do it.

242 MigueldowninMexico  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:50:18am

mkm
I said good bye because I was leaving.

/Whew, I found a good pretext for not reading well lol.

Bye all, for real now :)

243 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:53:47am

Good morning all Lizardoids from the east coast. JWF reporting for duty.

Well, well, where do we even begin today?

Being it's the 29th anniversary of the passing of Elvis Presley, here's a pile of horse manure passing as journalism in the case of one Fidel Castro, who we can only hope is dead soon.

Video of Frail Castro Sobers Cubans

Sobers Cubans? I don't think so. They'll be drunk with joy when this monster descends into his special place in hell.


The government video of a weakened
Fidel Castro convalescing in bed brought home a growing awareness to many Cubans on Tuesday that neither he nor the country will likely be the same again.

The images released Monday night of Cuba's 80-year-old "unconquerable commander in chief" reassured anxious Cubans that he was alive, comfortable and recovering after surgery.

But the post-surgery photographs and video also are helping Cubans "gradually grow accustomed to" the idea of a Cuba without their "Maximum Leader" at the helm, according to historian Manuel Cuesta-Morua, a government opponent.

244 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:54:25am

ploome,

Nope. You're smart. Taking Zithro is going straight to the good stuff (antibiotic). You'll be better in a jiffy!

:-)

Zicam is just some over-the-counter zinc-based (I think) homeopathic stuff.

245 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:54:39am

Miguel

Atah tzadak, yeish chaim lchut shuv! Lyla tov chaver.

246 Manker  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:54:43am

#239 ploome hineni

and what about the UN, the EU and the IRC

all supporting and shielding Hezballah and their supprt system in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza

it is NOT terrorism if only Jews are killed

In the end of the day, Bush talked and setup some of the ground work, now we need those that follow to finish it for him.

Bush isn't without his faults, but remember even the world superpower can't do everything.

You can't wipe the EU's ass and make them realize the crap their gonna go through.

The UN and IRC have to both be told that they will lose US funding, and amazingly things will change in a manner not seen before.

The fact is that we must setup a league of democracies to truely to reach the situation that we need to get too.

247 nonic  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:56:39am

#234 jfromfolsomca

Unfortunately, some universities will view this kind of whacko background as "diversity" to "enrich" their student body and give these kids scholarships along with remedial classes in the basics.

/Q of G this a.m.

248 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:56:40am

Meanwhile, actor Bruno Kirby has died.

Bruno Kirby, a veteran character actor known for playing the best friend in two of
Billy Crystal's biggest comedies "When Harry Met Sally" and "City Slickers," has died. He was 57.

Kirby died Monday in Los Angeles from complications related to leukemia, his wife Lynn Sellers said in a statement Tuesday. He had been recently diagnosed with the disease.

"We are incredibly grateful for the outpouring of support we have received from Bruno's fans and colleagues who have admired and respected his work over the past 30 years," his wife said. "Bruno's spirit will continue to live on not only in his rich body of film and television work but also through the lives of individuals he has touched throughout his life."

Born Bruno Giovanni Quidaciolu in 1949 in New York City, he was the son of actor Bruce Kirby. His early work included the 1971 film "Young Graduates," as well as appearances on the television show "Room 222" and the made-for-TV movie "The Summer Without Boys."

In 1974, he scored a role in "The Godfather: Part II," which won several Academy Awards, including best picture. In the film, Kirby played young "Pete Clemenza," following Richard S. Castellano's role in the first installment.

249 mkm19602000  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:56:44am

Bye Miguel.

250 msinfidel  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 1:59:07am

Noah Pollack presents this alternative explanation for the US and Israel pulling out of Lebanon without achieving stated goals.

Iran armed Hezbollah and clearly is not going to be step down from its nuclear program diplomatically.

The war in Lebanon just gave the US all the evidence it will need to strike Iran once they refuse to comply with the UN demands regarding their nuclear ambitions.

Here is what Pollack said:

---snip----Undoubtedly, the most important and highest-priority U.S. and Israeli objective in the Middle East today is thwarting Iran’s nuclear-weapons project. It is likely that the confrontation with Iran will not be resolved diplomatically, and that in the decisive moment it will be America, not Israel, that dispatches its military forces to destroy the Iranian nuclear sites. This basic calculus is the context in which American and Israeli Middle East strategic thinking takes place today.

Israel’s actions against Hezbollah thus must fit within the greater shared U.S.-Israeli strategy for the region. That strategy always must consider the danger of an Arab League or OPEC decision to curtail oil sales, as in 1973. An oil embargo is the Arabs’ secret weapon: Gas rationing and triple-digit per barrel oil prices would cripple the global economy, enrage the American public, and possibly engender anti-Israel popular sentiment in the U.S. Even the threat of an embargo would send oil prices skyrocketing. American support for Israeli military actions must therefore always be wary to the risk of Arab hostility to Israel uniting behind the cause of restricting the sale of Middle Eastern oil.--snip---

link to entire article:

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

251 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:00:51am

In a clear indication that moonbattery has crept eastward from California the spawn of Jimmah Carter has won a Senate primary in Nevada.

Jimmy Carter's son, Jack Carter, won the Democratic nomination Tuesday to face Republican U.S. Sen. John Ensign in November in Nevada, where voters also picked candidates in a sometimes-zany pair of primaries to replace popular Republican Gov. Kenny Guinn.

Carter claimed 78 percent of the vote in early returns to defeat political unknown Ruby Jee Tun of Carson City, a middle school science teacher. Ensign won with 90 percent of the vote over Ed "Fast Eddie" Hamilton of Las Vegas, a former Chrysler Corp. supervisor.

I know, you're like me in lamenting the stunning defeats of Ruby Jee Tun and Fast Eddie Hamilton.

What were the voters thinking?

252 nonic  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:05:19am

#229 Miquel

Islam is a CULT.
Brainwashing

Yep. Notice that a kid who memorizes the koran gets a ticket to heaven and can take 10 people of his choice with him.

It's not just a cult -- memorizing words they don't understand -- it's a cult that insures tribalism.

253 The Green Hornet  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:07:34am

Lyla tov everyone

254 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:09:08am

Brit Baby Bomb Beasts

Such a lovely couple.

These are the twisted young British parents who planned to sacrifice their precious baby in the evil cause of jihad by mass murder.

Fanatical terror suspect Abdula Ahmed Ali, 25, and his wife, Cossor, 23, are among those being interrogated by police as suspects in the massive plot to attack trans-Atlantic flights in midair.

What the outwardly normal couple had secretly plotted is almost too horrifying to consider, cops said.

The Alis planned to use 6-month-old son Zain's baby bottle as a liquid bomb, blowing themselves and their child up, along with hundreds of others aboard the flight.

All in the name of their sick, twisted religion, you see.

255 Manker  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:15:33am

Druze leader in Lebanon: We will not surrender to Assad, Nasrallah

Druze leader and head of the anti-Syrian camp, Walid Jumblatt, responded to the recent speeches of Syrian President Bashar Assad and Hizbullah leader Hasan Nasrallah, saying, "We will never surrender to Assad or to Nasrallah's conditions." This was reported by Lebanese newspaper al-Mustaqbal.

I love that guy, the Druze are badasses.

In this case I do believe that some kind of war is inevietable.

The main reason is that while Hizb'allah is refusing to disarm, I don't think many lebanese are happy about this. I think they're quite pissed at the Shia.

The question is, are they pissed off enough to pick up arms to stop Hizb'allah so that Israel doesn't attack again?

256 mkm19602000  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:15:41am

#254 JWF

From the bottom of the article:

Cossor's grandfather Nazir Ahmed, 84, said Ali made an unexpected visit to Pakistan about four weeks ago.

"We didn't understand what the hurry was and why he had to go on his own," he told The Mail on Sunday.


The fucking people are intentionally clueless

257 Westward Ho  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:21:19am

#241, Mike C,

I am not criticizing them just pointing out that my fascination with the subject extends even to its failures.

258 3 wood  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:25:20am

Good Morning deadthreaders. I hope everyone had a safe, restful evening. I hope realwest's move has gone well and he is staying healthy.

Any thoughts as to how long this "ceasefire" will last until the fighting starts up again?
My guess is it will last for as long as it takes for Hezbollah to get resupplied with rockets and ammunition by Syria and Iran. And when the fighting starts up again, I'm thinking Israel needs to take over and keep Lebannon.

259 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:25:20am

Low pressure off North Carolina refuses to organize.

Gulf system has completely fallen apart, appaently disrupted by the big thunderstorm complex that moved South through Mississippi.

In the busy part of the Atlantic tropical cyclone season, but the dry air off Africa, slightly cooler than normal ocean temps in the East Atlantic, and an El Niño-ish SOI and Equatorial East Pac water profile and corresponding shear in the Caribbean, means not a lot happening.

But, lets recall the 1938 Cat 3 that hit New York was the third week of September, and 26º water is as far North as New Jersey, so I haven't completely given up yet.

260 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:26:26am

# 257 Westward Ho

I understand. That was an old oilfield joke.

261 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:29:18am

#254 JWF:

The Alis planned to use 6-month-old son Zain's baby bottle as a liquid bomb, blowing themselves and their child up, along with hundreds of others aboard the flight.

LOL. You know what "zain" is in Hebrew? :D

262 Westward Ho  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:30:59am

#260, Mike C,

Now that you tell me it is quite funny.

263 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:32:29am
mkm19602000 8/16/2006 04:15AM PDT

#254 JWF

From the bottom of the article:

Cossor's grandfather Nazir Ahmed, 84, said Ali made an unexpected visit to Pakistan about four weeks ago.

"We didn't understand what the hurry was and why he had to go on his own," he told The Mail on Sunday.


The fucking people are intentionally clueless

We had no idea! We were also scratching our heads as to why he shaved his head, grew a beard, had WTC posters on his wall, was chanting Allah Akhbar and death to the Joooos, was making his martyrdom video and was mising chemicals in the basement.

No idea, we tell you! He loved football and fish and chips. This cannot possibly be true.

He's a good kid!

264 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:35:14am

# 262 Westward Ho

Well, it was to geoscience types. Engineers never seemed to appreciate it.

265 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:35:59am

3 wood,

I see Woods, Flabby Phil and Ogilvy are playing together in rounds 1 and 2. But they tee off at 9:35 tomorrow and there's no television coverage at the time.

How weak is that? TNT doesn't come on until 2 pm ET, but supposedly the Golf Channel will pick up coverage at 11 ET.

Not that I'd get to see any of it anyway.

I guess they go around 1:30 or so on Friday; that I can see.

266 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:37:54am

# 263 JWF

E's not the messiah ! E's a good boy, e is !

/Life of Brian

267 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:43:19am
268 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:45:12am
269 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:46:26am

Meanwhile, loppyd suffered the trauma of seeing the Sawx go down to defeat yet again last night and now there is No Room for Error

One hanging splitter . . . one fly ball that simply must be caught . . . one more lost opportunity. And then the news from New York?

It was a bad night for anyone who cares about the fortunes of the Boston Red Sox.

Curt Schilling didn't pull a Beckett. He pitched well enough to win a lot of games, just not this game, against this team, when his own team is not swinging the bat. He was one pitch away from pitching a certified gem, but that one pitch made all the difference, and when you get to this point in a pennant race, you only care about results.

Detroit 3, Boston 2 -- that was the result. New York 6, Baltimore 3 -- that was another result, and we won't mention that the Yankees trailed, 3-0, as they went to bat in the sixth, or that Johnny Damon tied it with a two-run homer and then put New York ahead with a double.

I told you it was an all-around bad night if you care about the fortunes of the Boston Red Sox.

Doesn't help the ChiSox either, as they went down to defeat against the Omaha Royals.

Five game NY-Boston series commences Friday afternoon. Should be fun.

270 3 wood  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:51:00am

#265 Jammie

I see Woods, Flabby Phil and Ogilvy are playing together in rounds 1 and 2. But they tee off at 9:35 tomorrow and there's no television coverage at the time.

Yep. I look for the Pillsbury Doughboy...I mean Mickleson, to throw up all over himself. Woods seems to be on a mission now, so I'm sure he will be in the mix on Sunday. I was going to go to Medina over the weekend, but a good friend here has an elderly relative dying, he is the executor and has never done it before, and he asked for my help getting the estate together for the inevitable resolution. So I'll stick around here and just watch on TV.

Medina is along, tree lined course, so the short hitters and irons players will not have much of a chance. We will have to see how deep the rough got, cause sprayers like Woods could have a problem if the rough is real deep. Medina is too long for Woods to get away with just hitting the irons like he did for the British open.

Ultimately it will boil down to which long hitter has the best short game this week end.

271 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:52:49am

Huh ?

272 Manker  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:53:25am

Interesting

Tank hits not as bad as it seemed

OC Armored Corps Brig.-Gen. Halutsi Rudoy revealed Tuesday that out of the almost 400 tanks that operated in Lebanon, only a few dozen were hit by antitank missiles and only 20 were actually penetrated.

...

Referring to the Trophy, a Rafael-developed active protection system that creates a hemispheric protected zone around armored vehicles such as the Merkava 4 tank, Rudoy said he would demand that his tanks be fitted with the defense system once it was deemed operational.

Well I gotta ask, WHY WASN'T IT OPERATIONAL ALREADY. I saw this already demonstrated and was stated ready for use.

While trophy will solve the issues of the AT missiles it still has to find ways of dealing with IEDs or huge underground explosives.

273 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:54:21am

Good morning all,

Dr. Sanity has a great article analyzing Hezbollah in the context of the Arab culture of honor & shame.

EVERYDAY DELUSIONS OF A SHAME CULTURE

For anyone who desires real peace in the middle east, it must be extremely disheartening to see thugs like Ahmadinejad, Nasrallah and Assad assert that they have achieved a great victory over Israel with regard to the current UN-brokered ceasefire. On TV, the scene abruptly shifts to the explosion of joyous fireworks over Beirut that proclaim an historic victory for Islam as women and children dance in the streets; when days before we were shown by the same media the pathos of dead children's bodies pulled from wrecked buildings; and the suffering of horribly victimized Lebanese, defeated and dispirited by the vicious bombs of the Israelis.

Let us put aside for the moment a discussion of whether the claims of victory have merit, since I believe it is far too early to be able to assess what may yet happen in Lebanon and how the situation will unfold. The ultimate victor and loser remains to be seen and a case could be made at this moment for either outcome.

Instead, let us consider how a shame culture--like the Islamic states and terror groups involved in this conflict--deal with success and failure.

For a typical shame culture the most important issue--indeed the issue that trumps truth or reality every time--is what people believe.

What others believe to be true has a far more powerful impact on behavior than what any particular individual believes; since the desire to preserve honor and avoid shame to the exclusion of all else, is one of the primary foundations of the culture. This need to avoid shame motivates the individuals in the culture to engage in wrong-doing as long as no-one knows about it, or knows he is involved.

It also motivates them to do whatever is necessary to give the impression that honor has been preserved...

...Since shame cultures work best within a collectivist/totalitarian framework, it is often fairly easy to manipulate appearances in order to avoid shame and claim honor has been preserved. When you control the media and/or the social structure; have unlimited money and sophisticated tools for the development and dissemination of propaganda, then it is even easier.

It is an absolute cake-walk if you also happen to have a bunch of useful idiots managing the media of the enemy you hope to shame and give the appearance of defeating.

Read it all. This is why the UN brokered ceasefire is a disaster. Hezbollah took an ass-kicking from the IDF but still claimed to be victorious and the vast majority of Arabs agree.

274 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 2:55:23am

Mikey,

This is for you.

Good day, ALL!™

May G-d protect the IDF and all the people of Israel!

275 Westward Ho  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:00:39am

Mike C,

A fascinating but depressing reappraisal of SETI.

[Link: www.csicop.org...]

276 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:01:09am

#272 Manker

Tank hits not as bad as it seemed

During this conflict, the main sources of information for Western media seems to be Lebanese & Hezbollah agents. So don't believe a damn thing in the msm about the nature of the military action. It's all bs.

Well I gotta ask, WHY WASN'T IT OPERATIONAL ALREADY. I saw this already demonstrated and was stated ready for use.

Why not indeed. Time, money and political will. It's onething for a company to announce a product is ready (which may be just hype to promote their stock), andquite another to spend the money & time necessary to purchase, install & train the people to use new technology.

277 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:01:17am

#272 manker:

While trophy will solve the issues of the AT missiles it still has to find ways of dealing with IEDs or huge underground explosives.

The threat from ATGMs is the more serious threat, because it's a mobile and long-range threat.

Buried explosives are hard to counter, but OTOH can never be deployed with the flexibility, mobility and in the numbers that ATGMs can.

You can never 100% insulate a tank from a massive buried explosive device. Even if the tank's hull holds, the crew will still be killed. We have seen this with a few Merkavas in fact.

278 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:02:22am
279 3 wood  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:03:55am

#269 Jammie

The ChiSox got every break you can think of and then some last year, and this year it's a different story. And I don't think the BoSox pitching is deep enough to take them where they want to go, either.

Hey, on a completely different note, I did some research yesterday into the 1919 Black Sox. I had watched "8 Men Out" a few weeks ago and wanted to check up on how accurate it was. The movie portrayed Comiskey as notoriously cheap and that forced the players to throw the 1919 series for more money. A key part of the movie showed Comiskey as cheating ace pitcher Ed Cicotte out of a $10,000 bonus cause he won only 29 games and not the 30 in his contract bonus clause. The movie suggested Comiskey had Cicotte benched for a bunch of games to keep him from winning his 30th. That supposedly motivated Cicotte to agree to throw the series.

According to what I read, which was noted as direct quotes from Ed Cicotte later in life, he joined into the scam cause he knew his career was winding down and he wanted to get a big payoff to be able to buy his family a farm to live on. In fact he started 2 games after he won his 29th and got shelled in both of them. The last start was just several days before the first game of the World Series. So if Comiskey was trying to cheat Cicotte as the movie suggested, he sure went about it in a strange way.

Cicotte ended up working as a mechnic for Ford in Detroit for many years and died in 1969.

280 christheprofessor  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:04:52am

#273 Kenneth

This is why the UN brokered ceasefire is a disaster. Hezbollah took an ass-kicking from the IDF but still claimed to be victorious and the vast majority of Arabs agree.

It would seem that a lot of lizards agree that Israel lost (I don't).

281 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:05:09am

Aack ! Just priced the laptop I really do need. $ 3,682. Guess that ain't happening anytime soon.

282 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:05:34am

Good morning, LGF "one website"!

283 3 wood  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:07:07am

#271 Mike C.

Huh ?

Looks like we are in for a looned-out day. Could be entertaining.

284 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:07:26am
285 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:08:52am

# 275 Westward Ho

Yet another bookmarked site that I visit all too infrequently. Sigh.

286 christheprofessor  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:10:10am

#281 Mike C.

Aack ! Just priced the laptop I really do need. $ 3,682. Guess that ain't happening anytime soon.


Aw, c'mon. It's only money! (Business expense?)

287 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:11:02am

#243, JWF

Being it's the 29th anniversary of the passing of Elvis Presley...

Uh... I knew that!

That would make this Elvis International Tribute Week here in Memphis, better known to locals as "Elvis Death Week."

And in honor of that, let's have a look at the Graceland webcams!

288 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:12:20am

There a NYTimes puffpiece (what else?) on Ned Lament this morning and how he's trying to reach out to "moderates" (read: relatively sane people). I won't bother giving the enemies from the Times any traffic, but I will link The Lieberman Purge from NRO.

The three-term Democratic senator with presidential ambitions provoked opposition from the left wing of his party because of his support for the war while there was a Republican in the White House; as a result, he drew a primary challenge from a relative political neophyte who opposed the war. But in 1970, Senator Scoop Jackson fended off Carl Maxey in the Democratic primary, and went on to be reelected three more times before his untimely death in 1983.

A generation later, it says something about the current state of the Democratic party that Joe Lieberman, the sole remaining Scoop Jackson Democrat, could not repeat his predecessor’s feat. Notwithstanding Jackson’s victory, the 1970 Democrats became the McGovern Democrats of 1972; today’s Democrats, led by kamikaze bloggers, give every indication of the same sort of self-immolation — only more so, as even a liberal like Hillary Clinton may fall victim to the tide because of her association with the relatively moderate Democratic Leadership Council, the only organization that produced a winning Democratic presidential candidate in the last quarter century.

I find it rather amusing now that the Democrats will be forced to dump money into a losing effort when they had a safe seat all along. No Republican in CT would beat Lieberman, but now the overwhelming majority of GOP voters will vote for Lieberman (the GOP candidate has massive baggage), the independents will go for Lieberman, and the Democrat establishment will be running far, far away from Lamont by the time the fall rolls around.

Sensing that, Lamont will have to move to the center and will alienate the kook fringe base of his, resulting in a complete implosion come election day.

It won't be pretty, but it will be fun to watch.

An added bonus will be the DNC will be diverting money from other potentially close races where they might have a chance for a pickup; instead, the money going to a losing cause will trickle down and cost them other races, denying them any shot at both the Senate and House.

Kos and his crazy cabal will be radioactive once the dust clears.

289 Manker  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:12:27am

#276 Kenneth

During this conflict, the main sources of information for Western media seems to be Lebanese & Hezbollah agents. So don't believe a damn thing in the msm about the nature of the military action. It's all bs.

It seems to make this victory, Hizb'allah had to overinflate many things to make this point of view.

Why not indeed. Time, money and political will. It's onething for a company to announce a product is ready (which may be just hype to promote their stock), andquite another to spend the money & time necessary to purchase, install & train the people to use new technology.

From my understanding the beauty of the TROPHY system was that it was completely automated. The only real training needed was when to turn it on and off (so you don't have friendly fire), and installation. But everything else was done by the system itself so the soldiers don't even have to think about it.

#277 Golden Jerusalem

Buried explosives are hard to counter, but OTOH can never be deployed with the flexibility, mobility and in the numbers that ATGMs can.

You can never 100% insulate a tank from a massive buried explosive device. Even if the tank's hull holds, the crew will still be killed. We have seen this with a few Merkavas in fact.

Very true, but one thing I've been wondering.

While it might seem that I'm reading too much science fiction, but does the IDF have any EMP's and if they do would they be workable in Lebanon.

The reason I'm thinking about this, is that Hizb'allah weapon improvement comes with a big weakness. If the IDF were to drop an EMP (or a few small ones on south Lebanon) wouldn't that disable most of the remote detonated explosives, ATGMs, and longer range missiles?

Aswell as just screwing up their communication systems?

290 Westward Ho  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:12:39am

OT,

We are likely to have 12 planets in the solar system. Welcome to solar system plutons.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

291 3 wood  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:13:13am

#281 Mike C.

Aack ! Just priced the laptop I really do need. $ 3,682. Guess that ain't happening anytime soon.

Hey, for a capitalist pig working in the profit laden oil industry, that should be lunch money :)

292 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:13:50am

from Washington Post...

Already Tempered Expectations

The UN hopes that 3,500 well-equipped troops can deploy to Lebanon within two weeks.

OK folks, since the cornerstone of this UN ceasefire rests on a "robusts UN force" to keep the peace, who here expects the UN to have even half the number listed above within 2 weeks? Remember the deal calls for 15,000 UN troops plus 15,000 Lebanese troops.

Kofi better start typing his strongly worded memo right now!

293 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:17:44am
294 katemaclaren  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:18:30am

#56 Mr. Krabs
Dictionary.com defines folks as "The common people of a society or region considered as the representatives of a traditional way of life and especially as the originators or carriers of the customs, beliefs, and arts that make up a distinctive culture: a leader who came from the folk.
Archaic. A nation; a people.

I wonder why people judge Southerners as dumb just because they use the word "folks" instead of the word "a**holes?"

295 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:18:35am

# 278 AI

The PRC is currently starting on a coal-to-liquids plant as well.

296 Westward Ho  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:20:20am

I suspect political correctness has hit Astronomy too. Worthless puny rocks are being given the diginity of planets. Grade inflation and affirmative action hit Astronomy. How sizeist of us to deny planetary membership to worthless rocks. You goddamn rockist.

297 realwest  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:20:49am

Good Morning Y'all! It's a rainy, warmish (73 degrees, going up to 84 degrees) here in Charlotte.
This is a drive by posting as I have to eat and then go see my new doctor. I hope you all are doing well and will have a great day (I may get back for a few minutes in a while)!
BTW - just saw on the news ticker that Former President Gerry Ford, age 93, has been admitted to a hospital for "testing and evaluation".

298 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:22:07am

3 wood,

I haven't seend Eight Men Out in some time, but I recall baseball historians pointing out many inaccuracies back when it came out--guys batting righty when they were lefties, etc.

Hollywood always takes liberties. I can't think of specific instance off the top of my head right now, but there have been occasions when I'm watching a sports movie where I think "Um, it didn't quite happen that way..."

It's like those NFL Films team highlight reels where things are out of sequence.

I was watching Miracle with some nephews and their friends recently and it did accurately portray the 1980 hockey team and the results as they occured. I thought it was very well done. Using actual hockey players to portray the hockey players certainly helped. Nothing worse than seeing a Bernie Mac trying to swing a bat or a Keanu Reeves pretending to be a quarterback.

299 Miss Trixie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:22:24am

♪ Good morning {LGF} ♪

big L

Oh it is just the flowery way they speak. Don't pay attention to the death threats and end-of-time rhetoric. That is just the Arabs way of negotiating.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard that lame, wishy-washy excuse. If these people could actually hear what's being said in Saudi funded mosques munitions dumps, they'd wet themselves.

300 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:22:50am

#280 christheprofessor


It would seem that a lot of lizards agree that Israel lost (I don't).

it all depends on what one considers "winning". Hezbollah took a serious beating & squandered thousands of Iranian supplied missiles for little damage on Israel. The IDF drove them from southern Lebanon. But the status of Hezbolah has been elevated in the Arab world and the Lebanese sovereignity degraded. So in that sense they won.

The real question is what happens next.

301 scaryfast  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:23:02am

OT Kinda:

CABLE NEWS RACE
Check out the top 5...see if you notice a trend.

MON., AUG. 14, 2006
VIEWERS

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,059,000
FNX BRIT HUME 1,614,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,496,000
FNC GRETA 1,485,000
FNC SHEP SMITH 1,179,000
CNN LARRY KING 805,000
CNN COOPER 798,000
CNN DOBBS 678,000
CNN ZAHN 669,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 456,000
MSNBC INVESTIGATES 451,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 363,000

302 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:23:14am

# 286 ctp

Needing it would depend on Schlumberger loaning me a copy of a $ 100,000 piece of software. Which they might just do. What I priced is the properly configured Dell M65 they use worldwide for that app. If they do loan me the software, I might just bite the bullet, because learning it would be future money in the bank for me. Gotta keep up, but that's hard to do as a consultant.

303 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:23:45am
304 mkm19602000  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:24:58am

#292

Hey this ceasefire is Kofi's baby from start to finnish when it goes kablooie, we must do everything to direct the shitstorm to the correct place. Kofi and the Islam loving UN. This may be a blessing in disquise.

305 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:26:58am

# 291 3 wood

In my dreams. Besides, I don't eat lunch.

306 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:28:33am

zombie

I am lawyer enough to tell you start here:


put at the botton of every page on your blog

Copyright is simple, you don't have to register each image but you can for the most popular (scrotal inflator etc.)

Copyright 200x-2006 zzzzzz All rights reserved.

If the image is registered you can put the circle with the c on the image; but just notcie of the copyuright alone on the page is enough.

the x above is the year you created the images (i am assuming it is not pre-2000)

remember to update it to 07 on Jan 1 and you are good to go

the zzzzzz is the tricky part. As an anonymous person you want to stay that way but your choices are to use your real name or a company name- and that requires a lawyer or an entity to serve as the holder of the rights to the images

you can assign the images to zombietime to a new entity your lawyer creates listing the lawyer as the sole and only named individual on the papers (the lawyer better like you to agree to it) or you have to find an existing organization you trust, say pajamas media that will be assigned all rights in the copyrighted works while being honorable enough to honor a license back to you for all proceeds from the images

whoever you use, better be able to trust them as the enetity will own the copyrights to the images- your interests will only be as strong as the honor of who you assign the images too and the license back to you

this is the great divergence of internet life and reality- in reality- a human with a name or a company with registered owners owns the copyright on the images

you could try to incorporate a company using Panamanian bearer stock, but if homeland security ever gets windo of such a scheme, they and the IRS, take a dim view of such things. Suggest you don't go there.

307 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:30:10am

#301 scaryfast:

CABLE NEWS RACE
Check out the top 5...see if you notice a trend.

On a related OT note:

WHAT IS UP with Jonathan Mann's EYES?!?

308 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:30:27am

Westward Ho,

I suspect political correctness has hit Astronomy too. Worthless puny rocks are being given the diginity of planets. Grade inflation and affirmative action hit Astronomy. How sizeist of us to deny planetary membership to worthless rocks. You goddamn rockist.

I heard the story this morning about going from 9 to 12 planets.

Why not just declare anything bigger than a pebble as a planet and be done with it?

Of course, this will inevitably lead to Sheila Jackson Lee declaring that planet names are racist and we need a Planet Tameka mixed in so we show our diversity. Lee, of course, is the insipid Houston Congressthing who declared that hurricane names are predominately white and we need some Hurricane Tawanas and Moeshas to show our inclusion.

309 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:31:38am
310 Buck  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:34:18am

#1 Zombie

this time, they didn't get any permission at all

That is because you don't exist!

-kinda funny when you think about it.

311 christheprofessor  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:35:00am

#300 Kenneth

Yes, there is definitely a distinction between military and political victories, and it is quite possible to have military victories accompanied by a political loss of the original objective (Viet Nam comes to mind).

I would call this a military victory with a propaganda loss for Israel, only because Hezb'allah wasn't annihilated - frankly, anything short of completely breaking the hezbos' back would be portrayed in the Arab world as a victory over Israel, which is exactly what occured. And I blame that on Olmert's mishandling of the entire affair.


#302 Mike C.

I understand what you are saying. I'd never given it any thought, but I imagine one of the major drawbacks for consultants, as you allude to, is that you don't have the same access to the latest technologies as those employed in the large companies in "the field."

Hope it works out for you...

312 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:35:51am

Good Morning, All!

So I guess the next time my brother gives me Red Sox tickets I should check the dates on them....since he clearly can't tell the difference between Sunday Aug 13 and Tuesday Aug 15. Good thing I checked them before the BF and I made our way into Beantown.

I love the kid to death and it was very generous of him to give me the tickets so I can't be mad.

313 christheprofessor  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:37:05am

#309 AI

No disagreement. I would like to know what ever happened to the stated goal of recovering the two kidnapped soldiers...

Seems that has been all but forgotten.

314 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:38:17am

#307 Golden Jerusalem
Must be Wesley Clark syndrome:

[Link: news.uns.purdue.edu...]


AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

run away
run away

315 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:38:22am
316 Westward Ho  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:40:00am

308 JammieWearingFool,

"Lee, of course, is the insipid Houston Congressthing who declared that hurricane names are predominately white and we need some Hurricane Tawanas and Moeshas to show our inclusion"

Unfrickingbeleivable, no sane person can distinguish between parody and reality. It looks like that came out of a badly written Iowahawk script.

317 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:40:15am
#280 christheprofessor

It would seem that a lot of lizards agree that Israel lost (I don't).


Thank you,
Chris the Pro.

The Democrats have pointed the gun from their feet to their balls.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A Democratic political ad is under fire from Hispanics who say it unfairly compares Latino immigrants to terrorists.

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee sponsored a 35-second ad on its Web site that shows footage of two people scaling a border fence mixed with images of Osama Bin Laden and North Korea President Kim Jong Il.


All we wanted was to make them apply for citizenship,
The Democrats want to kill and eat them.
lo

318 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:40:15am

#289 manker:

Very true, but one thing I've been wondering.

While it might seem that I'm reading too much science fiction, but does the IDF have any EMP's and if they do would they be workable in Lebanon.

The reason I'm thinking about this, is that Hizb'allah weapon improvement comes with a big weakness. If the IDF were to drop an EMP (or a few small ones on south Lebanon) wouldn't that disable most of the remote detonated explosives, ATGMs, and longer range missiles?

Aswell as just screwing up their communication systems?

I don't know enough about Elctro-Magnetic Pulse weapons and their current state of advancement to really venture an opinion on that.

I do know, however, that some IDF vehicles are equipped with scrambling devices, which are supposed to prevent the explosion of nearby remote-controlled IEDs.

It's the device looks like an inverted broom on the Hummers, afaik.

319 christheprofessor  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:40:26am

#312 {lopps}

That's the new date-math... ;)

320 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:41:57am

loppyd,

Wow, that's a bummer. I sent you a note upthread with a linky to Bob Ryan.

I have to go home and check my tickets for the Yankees at Baltimore games I'm attending next month. Don't want to get down there are realize there's a mixup. Did that one year with my hotel room.

"Uh, sir, we did have you booked for last night, but I don't see anything for today..."

And I guess, worst of all, no street meat for you?

321 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:42:34am

{ctp}

LOL!

I was exhausted yesterday and the Sox lost due to Will Mo's dropped ball so I guess it worked out ok.

322 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:43:47am

AI- South Africa has been making oil from coal since the apartheid days. IIRC, they have a company Stasoil (sp?) that specializes in it.


Nazi Germany also worked with it. Variations of the Fischer-Tropsch process, have been practical for decades, and at a high enough oil price become economical.


I love the sight of super-humongous cranes, up near Buffalo, TX, stripping off the top-soil to reveal the coal below. You can see natural gas wells and strip mining just hundreds of feet apart, as one drives I-45 between Dallas and Houston.

323 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:44:16am

#314 BabbaZee:

Must be Wesley Clark syndrome:

[Link: news.uns.purd......]


AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

run away
run away

LOL! It's nothing. If you actually see Jonathan Mann on TV (dunno if he's only on CNNi?), it's even freakier, he has THESE INSANELY BULGING STARING EYES.

Freaks me right out :P

324 Miss Trixie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:44:35am

Kenneth, Good morning. I haven't talked to you in a while. What's new in TO?

Read it all. This is why the UN brokered ceasefire is a disaster. Hezbollah took an ass-kicking from the IDF but still claimed to be victorious and the vast majority of Arabs agree.

Precisely. Same thing happened when Israel mopped up in the Six-Day War in 1967. And I would strongly suspect in every other conflict from the dawn of time.

Humiliation bad. Saving face with lies good.

325 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:44:49am

JammieWearingFool

Good Morning, Jammie!

That should be fun to see the Yanks play at Camden Yards. Never been to a game there, but have always wanted to.

And I guess, worst of all, no street meat for you?

I made sausages, peppers and onions for dinner last night. Not the same, but still quite tasty.

326 christheprofessor  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:44:51am

#315 AI

I've seen that and a lot of others. I'm just offering my take on it (see my #311)...

#317 ibm

You are welcome.

327 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:45:24am

Another NBA genius.

NBA's Baxter arrested for shots near White House

Charlotte Bobcats basketball player Lonny Baxter was arrested early on Wednesday after a witness reported gunfire near the White House, a
Secret Service spokesman said.

A witness flagged down a Secret Service officer about 2:30 a.m. (0630 GMT) and reported shots fired about five blocks from the White House, Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren told Reuters. The witness also reported seeing a white SUV in the area, said Zahren.

The officer stopped Baxter's SUV and saw "in plain view a number of spent shell cartridges," said Zahren.

Baxter, 27, was arrested along with his passenger, Irvin Martin, 35, said Zahren.

Baxter, 6-foot-8 (2.2m) and 260 pounds (118 kg), is a four-year veteran of the NBA and currently plays for the Charlotte Bobcats. He has averaged just over four points during his pro career.

328 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:46:01am

BabbaZee

Wesley Clark ranks up there with the Ditech guy in the creepiness department. :D

329 jehu  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:46:24am

3 wood #283

Looks like we are in for a looned-out day. Could be entertaining.

Or from another perspective a snarky-weasle day.

330 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:46:57am

Or was it Sasol?

331 Manker  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:48:03am

#311 christheprofessor

And I [and EVERYONE else in Israel]blame that on Olmert's mishandling of the entire affair.

I just felt compelled to add it.


#318 Golden Jerusalem

I don't know enough about Elctro-Magnetic Pulse weapons and their current state of advancement to really venture an opinion on that.

I do know, however, that some IDF vehicles are equipped with scrambling devices, which are supposed to prevent the explosion of nearby remote-controlled IEDs.

It's the device looks like an inverted broom on the Hummers, afaik.

That is good, but you can see where I would be going with this. You could in the process in the first wave of bombings, destroy all their electronics equipment. This would force them to fight with more the traditional RPG and assault rifle, making them fall into a severe disadvantage.

332 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:48:06am
333 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:48:31am
334 Ackomanyuki  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:48:56am

#281 Mike C.

It sounds like you are looking at Panasonic Toughbooks.

That is what I need. It will be a long time coming. Two kids, wife wears Italian shoes, Austrian business suits, and we travel more than is sane at our income. Oh well, that's life in the big city, I always say.

I am using a 7 year old Compaq M700. Dropped it once. It survived. I really need something bulletproof though. I haven't had to buy a computer for years. My IT systems admin brother used to give me the obsolete stuff the executives are always tossing away as beneath their status whenever something new and inproved comes along. I have two laptops and three towers and some huge CRT moniyorts as a result. I started to look at new machines last year as my brother left the French telecom he was working for and lost access to free stuff in his new position. The sticker price on state of the art is way ouch.
My brother is recommending the new Thinkpads as a durable but not indestructable alternative to the Panasonics. About 1k less for the same power I believe.

335 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:51:03am

Loppy
LOL
WC is CREEPIER - the man had actual power and authority
and he ran for POTUS

[shudder]

die-tech guy is just....Gordon!

336 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:53:48am
337 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:54:16am

loppyd,

Me and the boys do a trip almost evey year to Camden Yards, and we bring about 25,000 other Yankee fans, including a sizable chunk of the NYPD and NYFD. Always a good party.

Went one year for a couple Sox games, probably in 2000. My hotel was overrun by Sox fans. Had a lot of fun with those guys. If you ever go in the summer, get the club level seats (about $40-$45) since if you go back to the concessiona re it's enclosed with AC, bars and lounge areas. It's get so damn hot and humid there in the summer.

Failing that, you can always flee to the comforts of the Bambino Pub when it gets too hot.

Went to the relatively new park in Philly last year. Really nice, but there's nothing else in the area, whereas in Baltimore you at least have the Inner Harbor and Fells Point for dining.

339 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:56:42am

#331 manker:

That is good, but you can see where I would be going with this. You could in the process in the first wave of bombings, destroy all their electronics equipment. This would force them to fight with more the traditional RPG and assault rifle, making them fall into a severe disadvantage.

Oh sure. I just don't know whether EMP weapons have reached a state where they can easily be practically applied?

Also, an EMP weapon might cause a hospital Hezb'allah weapons storage facility to lose power and then all hell would break loose :P

/Speaking of EMP bombs, heh, the Chinese have a nice on in C&C Generals. Good to drop on the enemy base defenses before sending in the Carpet Bombing, muahahaha :D

340 3 wood  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:57:40am

#298 Jammie

Hollywood always takes liberties. I can't think of specific instance off the top of my head right now, but there have been occasions when I'm watching a sports movie where I think "Um, it didn't quite happen that way..."

One of my favorite examples of that is in the movie Breaking Away. I know it was fiction, but you still have to be slightly believable. In the scene where the main character is riding his bicycle on the highway and supposedly keeping up with an 18 wheeler at about 50 mph, if you look real close the chain is on the small front chain ring of the bike. No way he was doing much over 20 mph when the scene was being filmed, probably closer to 18 mph. Also, the front quick-release hub is closed with the flange pointed forward. No experienced rider would do that cause the flange can catch on stuff that way, get flipped open and release the wheel from the frame.

Also, in the recent movie about Bobby Jones, they had Walter Hagen in competing tournaments he never actually played in. And there was a memorable scene where they showed an approach shot landing right next to a pin with the camera at grass level just behind the hole. The ball you see in the scene is a modern dimpled ball. And they had a scene where Bobby Jones father turns on a radio to listen to the broadcast of a tournament and the radio comes right on. I was not aware they had solid state radios back in the 1920's.

341 christheprofessor  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:57:40am

#330 Manker

Heh. No problemo (just for the record, though, that wording you added made is sound like I was in Israel, which I am not -- I'm in North Carolina -- didn't want to get anybody confused)...

#332 AI

Israel should never have agreed to a cease-fire until the two soldiers were returned. Period. Moreover, they should never allow their citizens' lives or their national security interests to be subject to external control, which is exactly what the UN is doing (nor should we, for that matter).

Olmert needs to go.

342 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 3:59:50am
343 greenmamba  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:02:42am

David Warren's Ottawa Citizen column today:

Can Israel survive this catastrophe?

He references Caroline Glick's article (#315 American Infidel) and a Ha'aretz article by Avi Shavit here.

Things are grim & I think the world is getting ready to vote Israel off the planet.

344 Ackomanyuki  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:04:30am

Hmmmm. Dell M65. That is a stomper. I was figuring Toughbook due to all of your travel and field work. I hope you find a way to get what you need. Good luck!

345 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:04:54am

Jesse Jackson jumps in to take the terrorist's case, namely their initial plan of killing and kidnapping Israelis in order to trade for terrorists in Israeli prisons.

"The cease-fire is a step in the right direction," Jackson said after talking to the Israeli and Syrian ambassadors here. "Release of prisoners would reinforce the positive direction."

There is a difference between a prisoner and a hostage.

Furthermore, there is a difference between prisoners of war (captured soldiers) and prisoners captured for crimes, like murder and attempted murder.

Jackson said he and other religious leaders would go to Syria "if we had the notion we could gain the release of prisoners on both sides. ... Such an effort would not be in conflict with our present policies because it would be humanitarian."

Releasing terrorists is good for humanity?

346 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:05:09am

NYT orgasming over Hez B'ALLAH:

Hezbollah Leads Work to Rebuild, Gaining Stature


[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

347 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:06:04am
348 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:06:25am

My favorite woman Brigette Gabriel said on the niel Cavuto Show yesterday

THIS IS A WAR AGAINST ISLAM


Bless you Brigette
you are the first person ot say it publicly that I have heard

349 christheprofessor  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:06:37am

#336 AI

No, I separate the two because they are in fact two separate issues. Viet Nam was lost in the halls of Congress and in the MSM, not on the battlefields of SE Asia.

The military and the political branches may work toward the same ends, but they are in fact separate and distinct functionalities. Note that the US Constitution specifically puts the military under civilian (that is, the result of the political process) control, precisely because the Founders recognized the inherent dangers of allowing the military itself to pursue its own political agendas.

Regardless, I don't feel any better about it, either way.

350 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:08:07am

Analysis of UN Security Council Resolution 1701 to end the war and an examination of its significance (primary evaluation)
[Link: www.intelligence.org.il...]

351 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:08:25am
352 Manker  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:08:55am

#339 Golden Jerusalem

Oh sure. I just don't know whether EMP weapons have reached a state where they can easily be practically applied?

I hope this is also one of the avenues that will have more research put into it following the budget increases.

Also, an EMP weapon might cause a hospital Hezb'allah weapons storage facility to lose power and then all hell would break loose :P

BOO HOO, I'll have to pull out that really small violin then.

/Speaking of EMP bombs, heh, the Chinese have a nice on in C&C Generals. Good to drop on the enemy base defenses before sending in the Carpet Bombing, muahahaha

Never really a fan of the EMP. If it was already that late in the game, and that high up in the tech tree, I'd rather go with heavy artillery shower, nukes, and mass overlords attacking from 2-3 directions, Hehehe.

353 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:10:10am
354 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:10:49am

BabbaZee

How about those shoulder padded suits? Eeeeew.

die-tech guy is just....Gordon!

Forever branded into my mind. :D

355 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:10:58am

This guy writes a pretty good screed to some sprockety german asshole "artiste" who made a film teaching kids to hate GWB
(link to film is in there)

very creepy shit.


[Link: www.paetau.com...]

Gramscian socialist German fag artistes are the Caliphate's Whores too!

356 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:11:51am

Loppy
me too
everytime he shows up
all I see DT guy, LOL!

357 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:13:17am

Jammie

Went one year for a couple Sox games, probably in 2000. My hotel was overrun by Sox fans. Had a lot of fun with those guys.

I haven't had the same experience with Yankees fans. One guy called me the "c" word outside of Fenway in '04.

358 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:14:23am
#353 American Infidel 8/16/2006 06:10AM PDT
#343 greenmamba

Things are grim & I think the world is getting ready to vote Israel off the planet.

You ain't kidding...


The world can vote all they want
The place called Israel
and the people called Israel
belong to HASHEM /ELOHIM

and what happens to us
in in his hands alone

so the world can kiss my Hebrew ass.

359 USMC RECON  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:16:10am

#336 ai
You are so wrong it is amazing.
You have absolutly no idea of what is involved in war. For you to state we laot in Viet Nam shows your ignorance in matters of war

360 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:16:26am

#357 loppyd:

I haven't had the same experience with Yankees fans. One guy called me the "c" word outside of Fenway in '04.

Cute, right?

:D

361 3 wood  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:16:46am

#329 jehu

:) I like you too.

362 wargammer2005  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:17:41am

#75 Zombie

i copy your web site about once a week, to keep a copy safe on my hard drive (or DVD)

we will need to document how the world went into the crapper at some point and i dont want info to get lost. i also copy other web sites (and will be doing more as i get servers up and running). the copies i have are not displayed anywhere

but i also donnate to Zombie Times (when i can, like just a few minutes ago)

363 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:18:06am
364 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:20:02am

{Golden Jaaaay}

I think it also had something to do with my W'04 baseball cap...

365 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:20:52am

OT - French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy (and contender for presidnet next year) has pushed for a crackdown on illegal immigration.

He championed a new immigration law that makes it harder for foreigners to bring their families here, but easier for those with special talents. And the government is offering payments to illegal immigrants who agree to return home.

Payments are interesting. In principal, illegals are owed nothing, but pragmatically, it would almost certainly be cheaper/easier in the long run.

Sarkozy agreed to grant residency to those who could prove a strong link to France, giving them until Monday to apply.

They received 30,000 requests and plan to approve around 6,000.

The article fails to answer the question that raises, what will happen to the remaining 24,000, or indeed those illegals who didn't even apply? We know some will be offered bribes to leave, but what of the rest?

366 Buck  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:21:02am
#280 christheprofessor

It would seem that a lot of lizards agree that Israel lost (I don't).

I actually agree with you. I don't think most lizards know what the true goal was.

IMO, it was to de-fang Iran's hand in the region BEFORE the the AUGUST deadline.

Iran has been clear that it intends to use Israel as a hostage (don't come near me, or I kill the girl). By putting hezbollah, Syria, and Lebanon on notice that Israel can and will defend herself it took a lot of wind out of Irans sails.

Also now Hezbollah has it in writing from the UN to keep to their own. There is nothing in the resolution about anyone getting to help defend Iran...

Remember: BIG GAME OF CHESS, and the idea (sometimes) is to distract the other player, get them on the defensive, just before going for the King.

367 Westward Ho  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:21:11am

#355,BabbaZee

The use of the word Fag is offensive, there are homosexual posters on this site. Are you trying to link his politics and sexuality? Have you heard of the Log Cabin Republicans?

368 vxbush  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:23:53am

[peaks head around monitor]

Can I come in? I need a small dose of sanity in the midst of my chaotic work week.

I'm willing to donate some chocolate to the cause. Does Charles accept chocolate donations, I wonder?

369 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:24:14am
370 realwest  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:24:51am

Golden Jerusalem, manker, loppyd, Chris, BabbaZee,
3 wood, Manker, JammieWearingFool, Mike C., Miss Trixie, Ed of many names and everyone else I didn't identify personally - Good Morning (again!).
Hope Y'all are doing well. Gotta leave in about 20 minutes or so to go to my new doc - how are you all doing?

371 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:26:13am

#352 manker:

Never really a fan of the EMP. If it was already that late in the game, and that high up in the tech tree, I'd rather go with heavy artillery shower, nukes, and mass overlords attacking from 2-3 directions, Hehehe.

Aaaah yesssss!

Overlord...Excellent with the upgrades, Gattling/Bunker/Speakertower, hell ya.

I usually played "Limit Superweapons" though, so there wouldn't be many nukes about in games.

The EMP bomb was good for paving the way for a strike, cos it took out (temporarily) all GLA stinger nests/ USA patriots, which in late-game could be hard to carve a way thru.

I EMP-ed an enemy once and flew a massive fleet of Helix right into the enemy's base and airdropped a huge army in the middle of his base :D

he didn't particularly like that :P

372 tfc3rid  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:27:18am

Morning all on this August 16, 2006...

AI: I'm starting to bug out a bit. After today I won't be back until Monday the 21st as I'm traveling...

Loppy: Morning! Sorry about the Sox... Huge series this wekend though... Sorry about your tix (or lackthereof). Not like my Mets aren't crapping the bed in Philly this week... Worried about Perdo's calf...

373 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:27:24am

To our Venezuelan lizards, you may soon have trouble reaching the world.

Hugo threatens to nationalize steal nation's largest provider of telephone, mobile phone, and internet service.

374 jpsfudimo  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:27:33am

Tuscola County prosecutor holds cell phone youths.

From Northeast Intelligence Network.

*16 August 2006: Every American who cares about the safety and security of our country is indebted to Tuscola County, Michigan County Prosecutor Mark E. Reene. Yesterday, Mr. Reene issued a statement standing behind the felony charges he filed on Saturday against three Middle Eastern men for their activities involving bulk cellular telephone purchases. more

375 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:27:42am

#349 christheprofessor

We lost Vietnam due to the PERCEPTION and MORALE of the Amercan public.

Is it a coincidence that this is when the left gained it's power?

Is it a coinicdence that they lost us that war through WORDS and IMAGES
propaganda and lies
controlling the pamphlet that the lazy ass public takes....

and they have been at it every since
in every area of American life
whittling away at the Judeo-Chrsitain basis for society

waging war with our way of being
replacing it under our very noses and no one seems to notice

Imagine the level of DECEPTION
in news
during the time of Viet Nam that we were unaware of.....

no blogs....
no one to check it

who knew Cronkite was such a moonbat?
No one. You thin khe didnt have an agenda?

[Link: www.uhuh.com...]

Shit ....people still believe the winter soldier crap which was proven a fraud
and that muthafucka had the balls to run for president and almost win! MOF that's s his whole street cred, it's why many people back him

Hes a friggin commie operative
we have been infiltrated
the gramscian socialists are the caliphates whores
and if it werent for the blogs right now the lies would be staggering
they are holding back because they know we are watching
and they are still full of shit
they dont know how to be any other way

how long do you think they are going to let us have this power without challenging it?
as soon as a dem takes office they will go after the blogs - the UN already tried gaining control of the internet ....

They will come after us it is garronteeeeddd

Propaganda...
words..
images...
win and loose wars
because most people are pamphlet takers

they write the pamphlets
and mold public perception to their agenda

and WE are fucking that up for them .

GOD BLESS AMERICA

GOD SAVE THE BLOGOSPHERE

376 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:28:16am

and
GOD BLESS ISRAEL

377 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:28:52am
378 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:29:04am

realwest

Good morning!

Can't complain....woke up, had coffee with my BF, it's a beautiful day.

Good luck at your appt. with the new doctor.

379 Miss Trixie  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:29:29am

{loppyd} Hiya, toots.

Wesley Clark ranks up there with the Ditech guy in the creepiness department. :D

Agreed. Do you remember when the blogger of "Allah in the House" photoshopped Clark, Querry et al? It was hilarious. Unfortunately I cannot make a link because they're broken.

So funny in the pants.

Remember?

380 USMC RECON  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:30:25am

ai Your simplistic reliance on the opinions of others to formulate your own opinions where you lack knowledge and experience allows you to pontificate your defeatism.
Try tobase your opinions on what you know and what you have done.

Don't follow ,lead.

381 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:31:10am

babbazee,

so the world can kiss my Hebrew ass.

Please send picture,
and I will let you know.

lo

382 3 wood  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:31:19am

#370 realwest

I'm doing great, thanks. I hope your health is holding up. How is your tooth situation doing?

I have to get my patience together today. I have to go to a faculty meeting tonight at the moonbat factory for the coming fall term. I got called yesterday by my Stalin-worshiping fellow Prof to make sure I show up cause I skipped the last several. They say they need my input on some new web-based stuff they want to set up.

Riiight.

That means they want me to do the work setting it up. I think I'll tell him to go get Joe Stalin to do it.

383 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:31:30am
#367 Westward Ho 8/16/2006 06:21AM PDT
#355,BabbaZee

The use of the word Fag is offensive, there are homosexual posters on this site. Are you trying to link his politics and sexuality? Have you heard of the Log Cabin Republicans?

Holy thin skin batman

I am not politically correct.
I dont apologize for it either

But I am harldy what you accuse me of here.

Relax.

384 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:33:17am

{RECON}

If you're still around....

May I offer you this?

Obviously, certain people care more about making their point than respecting those who served or currently serve in the U.S. Military.

385 grayp  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:33:19am

good morning everyone!

#365 Silhouette

The problem with the illegals in France is that many of them have children who were born in France and know no other country. There have been marches and protests all over the country, not a few by teachers.

386 realwest  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:33:55am

#378 loppyd - Thanks loppyd! This should be painless; it's with an internist who I (according to my HMO) have to see to get a referral to an oncologist. Both the internist and the oncologist (whom I located first and referred me to the internist) and the hospital and oncology centers that they are affiliated with all take my HMO and they're all within 3/4 of mile from where we now live! Took some detective work, but unless Internist or Oncologist turn out to be putzes, it should work out just fine. Thanks for the good wishes.
Sorry about your Bosox non-game!

387 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:34:06am

loppyd,

#357 loppyd 8/16/2006 06:13AM PDT

Jammie

Went one year for a couple Sox games, probably in 2000. My hotel was overrun by Sox fans. Had a lot of fun with those guys.

I haven't had the same experience with Yankees fans. One guy called me the "c" word outside of Fenway in '04.

Someone called you cute?

Hey, there are idiots in every bunch. I nearly came to blows with some drunken fool out in the bleachers at Fenway, until some sober fans managed to pull the soon-to-be-deceased out of my reach.

That was around 1 pm on a Sunday afternoon; the guy was bombed out of his skull and was just begging for a beatdown.

I've had some near altercations with drunks in Yankee Stadium as well as Giants Stadium. Fortunately I know NYPD and NJ state troopers who work the games. They handle the mess and I don't get charged with manslaughter. A win-win in my book.

388 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:34:31am
GERMANY was poised yesterday to shatter its most enduring postwar taboo by sending troops into the cauldron of Lebanon, where they risk coming into direct conflict with Israelis.

OH SHIT,
They will start marching towards Israel,
and turn North Into Poland,
Hold on to your Bomb Shelters,

World War 3 and a half.

389 christheprofessor  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:35:15am

#366 Buck

Interesting thoughts. It is quite possible that there were larger strategic aims of which we, the relatively uninformed public, have no knowledge. It that case, we are just spinning our wheels complaining about the outcome, as the publicized goals differ from the actual goals...


#375 BZ

That's the point I have been making. The leftists in the US, via the MSM and their control of Congress, snatched a political loss from the jaws of military victory.

As I recall, didn't the top Vietnamese general indicate they were just about to throw in the towel (I believe after Tet) when they realized that they could manipulate American public opinion through the media (e.g., Cronkite)?

390 WriterMom  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:35:27am
391 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:35:50am
392 LanceKates  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:36:50am

367 Westward

are you suggesting that we are not allowed to discuss the sexuality of someone just because people of the same persuasion post here and are of similar political position?

as for "The use of the word Fag is offensive" . . . i've worked with more than 1 homosexual person who called themselves, and others, fags and faggots.

is it going to be a "You're not one of us, so you can't use our cool words" issue?

393 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:37:10am

# 334 Akomanyuki

No, just a Dell M65, with maxed out hard drive and a few other bells and whistles. Not going outside with it, so no need for a Toughbook. All the Dells in the office withstood the spring duststorms, whereas my Toshiba required repair.

Sorry for the delay, but had to go get The Mighty Geo legal. Inspection was 2 months out of date.

394 realwest  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:37:26am

#385 grayp -Morning y'all! How are you this soggy morning?

395 BabbaZee  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:37:45am

#381 ibmkeyboard
Hahhehhehehahahhah hooo.

RECON
for you

396 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:37:55am

#370 realwest:

Hey buddy.

I hope you're doing well.

I guess I'm doing all right. Had a reasonably constructive day at work and got a decent evening to look forward to, so yeah... I shouldn't complain.

397 WriterMom  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:38:02am

Michelle Malkin: The Fauxtography Scandal Continues...

I am in love with the last sentence...go on and read it...

398 vxbush  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:38:20am

3 wood

Heh. I can make two guesses as to which organization you are referring to. :-)

399 mama winger  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:39:03am

I keep thinking of those jihadists using children as pawns in their sick propoganda war. We see those pictures non-stop in the media. Why don't we see these kinds of pictures? Fair and balanced, ya know.

[Link: www.ak-prepared.com...]

Maybe we need a minister of propoganda. Any volunteers?


Oh, and Good Morning! :)

400 m  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:40:07am

392 LanceKates
I'd think that would depend on how you mean it. My best friend is a fag and he'd laugh if I said it... but someone who doesn't know and love him-- different story.

401 LanceKates  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:40:08am

382 3 Wood

wait..... so when the lefties want actual work DONE.... they ask you to do it?

heh. how emblematic.

402 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:40:21am

Mike C.

Good Morning!

Sorry for the delay, but had to go get The Mighty Geo legal. Inspection was 2 months out of date.

The POS is up for inspection this month. That should be a joy.

Putting it back on Craigslist today reduced by $1000. Crossing fingers and toes.

Best friend just bought an Outback. She LOOOOVES it. Of course, I thought of you.

403 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:41:05am
404 realwest  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:41:33am

Well, hate to leave, but gotta go - hope everyone has a great day and hope I get to see ya later on
today or tonight!

405 3 wood  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:42:00am

#392 tfc3rid

Worried about Perdo's calf...

If only his calf was the biggest concern. His shoulder is hurt and I suspect a partial rotator cuff tear. I would not depend much on him the rest of the year. And having Steve Trachsel be the second best pitcher on the team now would not give me the warm fuzzies. Hopefully, it works out for the Mets and their loyal fans.

406 Golden Jerusalem  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:42:05am

#387 JWF:

Hey, there are idiots in every bunch. I nearly came to blows with some drunken fool out in the bleachers at Fenway, until some sober fans managed to pull the soon-to-be-deceased out of my reach.

That was around 1 pm on a Sunday afternoon; the guy was bombed out of his skull and was just begging for a beatdown.

I've had some near altercations with drunks in Yankee Stadium as well as Giants Stadium. Fortunately I know NYPD and NJ state troopers who work the games. They handle the mess and I don't get charged with manslaughter. A win-win in my book.

Wait a minute? Drunken disorderly conduct, potential for violent altercations, real hatred between fans?

Perhaps baseball really is a sport, after all, bwahahaha!

407 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:42:13am

Miss Trixie 379,

I'll have you know Allah is the same Allahpundit over at Hot Air.

408 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:42:18am

Okay, how come I can't see the YouTube video on this thread? I can see the one on the Green Helmet Guy threads. Hmmmm...

/ie 6.0 sp2

409 brent  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:42:24am

I showed that clip to my wife last nite, told her to remember that face, said she might be seeing the next Goebbels, Hitler.

When the history of this time is written, guys like this will be labeled as propogandists, war mongerers, enablers - too bad it's not so obvious to all now, when it matters.

I wonder if CNN would have aired Nazi propoganda unchallenged. My guess is, that if Hitler had invested in CNN, that answer would be yes.

The last lines of Terminator come to mind for some reason...

"...a storm is coming".

410 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:42:42am

372 tfc3rid

Thanks, buddy!

It worked out ok that I wasn't there. Got to go to sleep early, but bitter over the loss.

411 USMC RECON  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:43:12am

{loppyd}

{Babba Zee}

Sorry lopps. 3

412 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:43:22am

Hey, can somebody please post the YouTube link in a comment here? Thanks!

413 loppyd  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:43:42am

Later, realwest!

See you this afternoon.

:)

414 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:43:47am

Oh yeah. 'Morning, all!

415 WriterMom  Wed, Aug 16, 2006 4:44:00am