Nothing will stop the uber-lib march to re-write history...

No 1?

Here's another purger

Are FOX News Employees really “Noncombatants”?

By Mike Whitney

08/24/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- Are FOX employee’s innocent bystanders or an integral part of the American war machine? That may turn out to be an important question now that 2 FOX workers have been captured by a group of Palestinian militants.

This article has been withdrawn at the request of the author.

In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. Information Clearing House has no affiliation whatsoever with the originator of this article nor is Information ClearingHouse endorsed or sponsored by the originator.

[Link: www.informationclearinghouse.info...]

Malkin still has a live link [Link: michellemalkin.com...]

but obviously this guy has been busy trying to purge this article

he also writes for Al Jiz
[Link: www.aljazeerah.info...]

These people really have no shame.

Man, what a Gramscian.

Speaking of re-writing history, you must read this about the Israeli-Arab conflict written by a Saudi photographer, The Death of Lies.

If her fauxtography is anything like her fictional accounts of history then I would imagine that her photos would be quite entertaining.

In Congress its called permission to revise and extend.

-S-

The MSM keeps boasting that they have editors to police themselves. But who's policing the editors? No one, in this case, apparently. Looks like they still haven't quite grokked the concept behind this internets thingy.

It's so funny because they can't even stop themselves even though they know everyone is watching.

Too bad we can't check his college papers!

Um, I'm 19 and I don't that would excuse me if I wrote a made up a story for my boss.

/insulted 19 year old

Loons leading the loons.

SMDT?

Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
LOL!

#10 MacGregor

SMDT?

Spoken like a Scotsman.

#12 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

LOL laddie!

#2 Babazee:

Great catch, thanks!

Editing a three year old article to make your self look a little less guilty?

What kind of gutless shit bag does that?

Editor of Editor and Publisher, Greg Mitchell, that's who.

In the same edition of the Arabfiction, one man writes in asking the definition of terrorism.

The reply, that terrorism is difficult to define, except in the case of Israel which is a purveyor of state sponsored terrorism. Moreover, Islame is never the aggressor...

Choke on this one while eating your rice krispies:

Terrorism is a word that has acquired a very loose meaning. Unfortunately, we do not have any definition of it, neither at the international nor at the popular level. When some Muslim countries called for a convention to be held on terrorism, objections were raised by the US and other governments, because such a convention would inevitably have to define terrorism, and perhaps include state terrorism which is practiced by Israel and condoned by Israel’s friends who are never tired of speaking about their respect for human rights, though their actions belie their statements.

If terrorism means an attack on civilian population, taking them unaware, and intending to cause damage and loss of life in order to promote certain aims and objectives, then Islam condemns such actions. The Prophet made it clear to the commanders of Muslim armies that they must never kill a woman, child, elderly person, priest or anyone who is not engaged in fighting them. Islam is not after scoring victories against enemies.

It aims to make God’s message known to mankind and explain to them that it is a message of guidance that fulfills their aims and achieves their happiness when they implement it properly. Islam does not wish to kill anyone.

It only fights those who wage a war against it, or kill its advocates. This has been the case throughout history.

The reader asks about a specific action probably in his own country. He has not explained the details of the situation. He simply cites one case of buying a piece of land in order to build a mosque and a school.

This should be a very legal matter that a government should support. When the reader says that the government bans it, there must be something special about this case, which means that we cannot make a judgment on it.

It is always the case that a ruling is given on the basis of the situation. If I were to give a judgment on the basis of the information supplied by the reader only, my judgment is bound to be erroneous.

What is important to realize is that fighting in Islam is always undertaken against a well-identified enemy who is the aggressor. Islam is never the aggressor against any people, regardless of their beliefs. Some Muslims may resort to aggression, but that is their action, and it cannot be supported by Islam.

Since the press seems to be in full-disclosure mode these days, I want to finally come clean. Back in 1967, when I was 19 and worked for the Niagara Falls (N.Y.) Gazette (now the Niagara Gazette) as a summer intern, our city editor asked me to find out what tourists thought about an amazing local event: Engineers had literally “turned off” the famous cataracts, diverting water so they could shore up the crumbling rock face. Were visitors disappointed to find a trickle rather than a roar? Or thrilled about witnessing this once-in-a-lifetime stunt?

Rewriting history indeed:

Corps turned Niagara Falls off, on again

The IJC recommended to both countries that American Falls be temporarily dewatered to facilitate a timely and thorough study. The governments agreed, and on June 12, 1969, a rock cofferdam stopped the flow over American Falls. The Falls remained dry until November 25, 1969, when a backhoe removed the cofferdam.

So I guess that line should read "Back in 1969, when I was 21..."

Still just making shit up Greg? Or just too stupid to remember when you turned 21? Or what years you worked as a summer intern?

Probably just stoned and too lazy to fact-check your rewrite.

Stalinesque

#14 The Sanity Inspector
That guy is really vile.... I have been running searches on him all morning...
saw that the article was removed at that link really late last night...

Busted!

Dershowitz takes on Human Rights Watch's 'faux-reports'

Hey, I remember that! I was at Niagara when the falls were diverted and, being quite old now, but in possession of an acute memory, I can remember seeing this dorky looking teenager sitting on a bench scribbling in a notebook and mumbling to himself. I also remember studiously avoiding eye contact for fear that the obviously demented person would approach me.
// false but accurate :-)

Stupid,

Arrogant and Stupid.

Winston Smith lives.

Greg 'Winston Smith' Mitchell

17 Geepers

Nice catch!

Busted.

Although in fairness, the original article did contain the info that he was 19 and a summer intern if you read far enough.

So he's a liar and a pussy. Exelsior!

Mike Whitney also purged that article here:
RE: my #2

The Smirking Chimp - Mike Whitney: 'Are FOX News employees really ...Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks; he smirks at you.
[Link: www.smirkingchimp.com...] - 82k - Aug 24, 2006 - Cached - Similar pages

17

Wow... This thread should be updated to account for that.

Still Live here, Mike ya asshole

[Link: uruknet.info...]

Back when I worked for the Niagara Falls (N.Y.) Gazette (now the Niagara Gazette),

Back in 1967, when I was 19 and worked for the Niagara Falls (N.Y.) Gazette (now the Niagara Gazette) as a summer intern,

Faked, but accurate.

Exdamyankee (#26),

Thanks.

frankp_63 dug up the link yesterday. (Thanks again frankp_63.)

I just noticed the dates didn't jibe.

He didn't change just a few lines. It's a complete fucking re-write!

#17 Geepers 8/26/2006 08:38AM PDT

Back in 1967, when I was 19

on June 12, 1969

nice work- better archive the edited version, too!

Sorry for the lame internet acronym, but this time it fits.

LOL

#32 reggie 8/26/2006 08:57AM PDT

Faked, and still inaccurate!

Charles, instead of making the LGF Lameness Meter go to 11, why not make it go to 10, and make 10 a little louder?

//is that obscure?

Do you think Greg Mitchell and E&P have enough common sense to be embarassed by this?

Eagle: well... this one goes to eleven.

Someone should put this guy in a movie:

"Dates? We don't need no stinkin dates!"

Thanks for the update Charles.

So will he correct the rewrite?

Back when I was 19, I had a Top Secret (Crypto) security clearance, was speaking Korean, worked on a mountain-top on the Korean DMZ, was responsible for my portion of $250,000 worth of electronic gear there, and I reported for duty promptly every day as ordered!

And I wasn't the only one, Bub!

Pathetic! And all because you couldn't move past your comfort zone, approach people with a legitimate question, and accurately record their answers! WHAT A LOSER!

These editors have no shame. I guess the blogoshpere can do the jobs editors don't want to do. Honestly though, I scour the news everyday and hope to get a "scoop", for my new role models are folks like zombie, charles, jveritas and others. 21st editors and researchers all. (I figger that a documentation manager at a major Canadian software company has got to be at least as good an editor as those hired by the MSM.)

Doe this mean that I can now rewrite Viet Nam? There are a few chapters in there that really need some work...

#2 BabbaZee

Are FOX News Employees really “Noncombatants”?

The MSM never had any doubts when it was Serb Nationalist or Al Jazeera reporters.

Charles,

The LGF Lameness Meter went up to 12....

#38 - Eagle; #40 - Charles:

well... this one goes to eleven

Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...
Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.
Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to eleven.

#38 Eagle
#40

is that obscure?

Oh boy.....he'll have to try a lot harder than that.......

And he still keeps the magic hat given to him by the CIA guy!

And he didn't inhale, either!

And he admits to lusting in his heart after women!

But all only when he was 19!

And he was just an intern so it wasn't even a paying gig so what the diff did it make if he made the shit up, he would never do that now that he's making the big bucks!

Being a liberal journalist means never having to say you're sorry...

Greg Mitchell is the definition of a “never was”

His “journalism” career consists of writing liberal porn on Helen Gahagan Douglas and editing the TRADE rag Editor & Publisher.

Sorry, Greg, thats like being the managing editor of Shoppers World, or Feedstuffs magazine. Or being the “editor” of the Sunday clipper magazine.

If you think mainstream media hacks are the worst, wait till you meet the trade hacks.

Greg is a trade hack, and a foul-mouthed one at that.

Again. A Loser who's angry that Charles Johnson is on CNN and not him.

Greg Mitchell is angry that his media monopoly is finished and now his Bush Derangement Syndrome has led him to create an unforced error of the worst sort, violating all sorts of journalist ethics (oxymoron?)

I love watching BDS afflicted liberals hang themselves....

Thanks to you guys here at LGF, I can't even lie to my girlfriend anymore. She can find anything out nowadays. Thanks alot jerks.

metaphorical nice job Charles off

This just makes me question the truth of any story a news papaper runs. No one can check them and know a letter to the editor will be published. With blogs anyone can see what they claim and spread the truth or lie around. This way blogs have more incentive to only report the truth, unlile the MSM.

#42 Geepers -Way to go Geepers! Fact check their asses!

Red 13: "Charles, why not make the LGF lame meter go to 10, and make 10 lamer?"

Charles: "Because this one goes to eleven!"

/smile

Red

The intern change makes it worse.
I've done this kind of fluff story, and assigned them. Most summer interns do a good job with this kind of story because they're enthusiastic or they want to show their skills to get better assignments. Better yet, at least they don't lie because they're decent people. Seriously this shows a lot about a person.
And the saddest thing? Like a lot of beginners,he was probably scared to talk to strangers, but unlike most, he failed a first, simple test.

It appears from the Internet Wayback Machine that the editing of the article took place between November of '03 and January of '04, not in response to the recent attention by the blogosphere.

Back in 1965, Jones, Aaronson and Rutherford, who were among the original leaders during the Revolution, had been arrested. They had confessed to treason during their trial. They were pardoned but arrested again and executed.

Winston Smith remembered how earlier that year, a page which had been torn out of The Times had come to him trough the transport tube in the Minitrue.

This page from The Times showed the three men had been in Eastasia on a certain date of significance.

Winston Smith remembered clearly that they had confessed to being in Eurasia on that day. He also vaguely recalled that Eurasia had been at war with Eastasia and Oceania had been an ally at that time.

Winston Smith could have proved that the confessions of Jones, Aaronson and Rutherford were lies. But Winston Smith had sent this paper down the Memory Hole.

The last entry Winston Smith wrote in his diary was "Freedom is the freedom to say that two and two make four. If this is granted everything else follows."

Wonder if he was one of those "blue dress" kind of interns...

Has he made up anything about that yet?

I long for the day when these bozos will have to shutter their sites for lack of readers.

If anyone is any good with the wayback machine, and time stamps,
it looks like the Confederate Yankee comments section has a brewhahah goin on as to if someone has been monkeying with the wayback updates.

GEEPERS!
You any good with that stuff?

From that (very interesting) article by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, looks like someone from the Buffalo Courier Express had a real journalist on the site, who actually spoke to real people. One quote from a tourist: "I've seen the Falls five or six times before, in winter and in summer. But this is the best time to see it. It's so unique." Doesn't quite fit with Mitchell's view of average folks visting the falls, as being unsophisticated boobs and dorks.

And ya know, that really fits with a lot of MSM types. They look down their noses at the unwashed masses, and hold themselves up as kingpins of all that's good and sophisticated.

Thank God for the internet (oh, and Al Gore...). The MSM no longer has a lock on describing world events.

Village Idiot's Apprentice (#61),

That page isn't loading for me.

I'll take a look and see what I can find about Internet Archive: WayBack Machine and time stamping.

#63 Geepers
Thanks.
If you can get to the comments, there is some info at the Lewis/12:57PM comment.

I can understand him having some difficulty three years ago remembering his age and the year of the assignment, but how difficult would it have been to check the year in which Niagra Falls was turned off? It's not like he was covering a local pie-eating contest.

It's almost hilarious that the editor of a publication that supposedly oversees the media is too lazy to even do a simple fact check, either during the original story or the re-write.

Pathetic.

Seems like there's a lot of discussion about the time stamping issue. And it seems to be a big concern. Haven't seen anything that is definitive on the subject.

#66 Geepers
I saw that.
Several sites are now discussing it, and trying to understand what went on.

Thanks for getting involved though.

Village Idiot's Apprentice (#67),

Haven't gotten to Confederate Yankee yet.

Looking at the WayBack site and searches for "time stamp" discussions.

Lots of it's pretty technical and arcane.

I would suggest emailing the people at WayBack for some clarification. Has that been suggested/done yet do you know?

And it looks like Greg is altering more of his articles:

New Problems For Greg Mitchell Of E&P

Here’s a screencap from part two of Mitchell’s war-photographers column. Note the two paragraphs about Zombie.

Hope Greg doesn't read this post. ;-)

Oh, what a tangled web liberals weave.

Shame on them, and each and every ignoramus that apologizes for them.

Uh Greggie...

Time hit the want ads. I think used car salesmen is something you might want to consider given your current skill set and job history.

WHAT DAY
IS IT?,
R

This is from volume 70 (1999) of the "Contemporary Authors News Revision Series (CANR)" (issn 0275-7176):

Mitchell, Gred 1947-

PERSONAL: Born December 7, 1947, in Niagara Falls, NY.

ADRESSES: (in the book)

CAREER: Niagara Falls Gazette, Niagara Falls, NY, reporter, 1968-69; Zygote, New York City, news editor, 1970; Crawdaddy, New York City, senior editor, 1971-76; Politicks, New York City, senior editor, 1977--. Former editor, Nuclear Times.

...much more information in the book.

He was born in 1947 so he would have been around 21 when he made up his story in 1969.

I wrote Mitchell a polite letter identifying myself as a senior journalist, and specifically asking him about the Pieta of Tyre's mysterious green hat. No response, the bugger.

Regarding the 1967 or 1969 date problem -- that's not one of my own major concerns. I've been spending months going through newspaper microfilms from 1968 trying to find the date of a fire I witnessed. It may have been in 1967.

Getting a 40 year old date wrong is not what I don't like about this traitor (and he is a traitor). Memory can play tricks with dates and associations.

I hate his defense of the indefensible.

I just applied for a job as an editor with E & P's parent company, VNU Business Media.

"Liah, Liah,PANTS ON FYAH!"
/channeling Al Pacino thru Frank Caliendo*
(frankcaliendo.com)

So lame. The MSM just can not get used to the fact that everyone has access to information. They persist in believing that they can tell us any fiction and we'll just swallow it.
In a sense they are still correct because most people don't have time to fact-check all the offal they are throwing at us. And we don't have the channels to spread the corrections as widely as the lies. But people are becoming less and less trusting of the MSM. It's really too bad, we could really use a reliable source of information.
This behavior though. Thinking we would just swallow a little made-up story about 1967/1969 without fact-checking. It makes me believe this: that they have been making shit up all along and are so used to it that they have a hard time changing tactics.

#9 Yossarian

I know - as if the guy's young age is any excuse for being dishonest and not doing his job.

I'm not 19 anymore, but when I was, I would not have behaved like that.
-----
BTW, is your screen name from the Catch-22 book?

From Mitchell's second column:

August 24, 2006) -- In a column here on Tuesday, I mounted a defense of the overwhelming number of press photographers in the Middle East who bravely, under horrid conditions, in recent weeks have sent back graphic and revealing pictures from the war zones, only to be smeared, as a group, by rightwing bloggers aiming, as always, to discredit the media as a whole.

Here's what Mitchell doesn't get: it isn't the blogosphere that discredits the MSM...it's the liars and cheats in their own ranks that discredit the MSM! Instead of castigating the bloggers Mitchell should be demanding that stndards of journalistic integrity be maintained. He should be advocating stricter controls by, well, editors and publishers.

But he won't. Not only because he's a dhimmi-loving, lefty tool...but because he is a morally flawed person.

Hey, I was there! It wasn't that impressive really. They only let you walk about 10 feet out onto where the water was. It was only the American Falls they shut off. If I recall they wanted to remove some of the rocks that prevented a clean fall but the rocks were too big.

#66 Geepers

This is a smoking gun

Go to the Wayback Machine Page that shows the history for this document.

Notice there are three versions archived from 2003, and two from 2004.

I was willing to believe that somehow an article got crawled three times in 2003, then never again until this controversy came up. But I kept looking.

Follow the

The Monster (#81),

Nice work!

Your links are not working exactly properly for me though.

Did you test them before you posted?

#82 Geepers
I tested, but now see that the links are broken! The only thing I can think of was that trying to break down the other links broke things

Here's the main link:
[Link: www.mediainfo.com...]

that should show the crawl history I was talking about.

When you right-click one of the '2004' links, you'll see an URL including a 2004 date, but when it actually shows up in the browser, the URL will change to 2006.

The key is that the 'Jan 17 2004' link was retrieved 12 minutes after the 'Nov 28 2004', both last night.

The Monster (#83),

It amazing really that at this late date these geniuses still haven't figured out that you can't change things on the web without leaving tracks.

Once again, nice work.

Years ago I was a zookeeper
"childcare supervisor" at a
prison for deranged criminal kids"residential treatment facility."
One of the little thugs kids' techniques was to confess to some violation of trivial policy such as smoking cigarettes in order to distract attention away from their larger crimes such a stealing.
Greg Mitchell reminds me of those juvenile delinquents.