... and?

Here we go again...

Second!

I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe not even then.

Shit happens.

The optional force field that al-reuters ordered for their "armored car" apparently was installed incorrectly.

24 hour rule on who hit the car...

Even if true... Reuters has armored cars? Why would they need them when they work for Hisb'allah?

So the IAF is going after the enemy, so whats the news here? Is that not what you do in a war?

Wait for IAF predator video showing armed Hamas getting into vehicle.

They may indeed be journalists for Reuters, but I've noticed that Reuters uses a lot of locals for their camera work so I wonder what else these guys were up to.

It will be hard to find out the truth from the MSM because the "victims" are considered comrades.

I am trying to see why this matters. PR pure and simple. Journalists die during armed conflict. They know that going in.

Only the Fwench require no one to shoot at them.

what was reuters doing to deserve being fired on? other than, well, being reuters?

My guess is they were transporting stuff for hezbollah.

so...Sabbah was wounded in the legs and Fadel was wounded in the blast.
Is the blast just above your legs?

Headline should have read;

Two Terrorist Spies Wounded

Two memebers of a know terrorist group were wounded while gathering military intel. The two were able to get away and get back to enemy lines where they recieved medical treatment from their comrades.

Quick, get Green Helmut Guy! Maybe he can hold them up in the air!

(double lol)

Important Question:
Where was "Green Helmet Guy"?

welcome aboard al-ivanj,
I think it happened in the Gaza strip.

What do we usually say when these events happen? 24 hour rule? 48 hour rule? I think there's reason to withhold judgment either way on what happened. Can't trust the doctors who are several steps removed from the incident to say what happened. The IDF gives its usual statements, which is to say not much to go on.

In other news,

Two clearly marked journalists for the FOX NEWS network were purposefully and willfully kidnapped by pally arabs.

Thank you.

Do you think Green Helmut Guy is strong enough to hold up two grown men? (above his head as is his trademark)

Soon it will be one reporter.

Then it will be lightly wounded.

Then it won't be an armored car.

Then it will be an armed car.

Then it won't be ...

Why do I get the feeling that we know nothing about what happened?

I just saw video of the truck and I don't see any missile damage, although it could have been hit by gunfire. The vehicle is too intact to have been hit by missiles. The interior appeared to be relatively intact as well, but the frames were on the screen for only a few moments. Via ABC News btw.

I've seen the news video. It is a fake, pure and simple. Forget about it, because these people lie for advantage when they don't even need to do so.

Tomorrow someone will supply some "proof" of their terrible injuries.

It's all lies, every last bit of it.

After the ambulance debunking, one thing ought to be obvious; a missle striking a car won't leave any survivors, and not much of a car. Something in this story is phoney. Possibly the car was hit by schrapnel from another target, but there's no way those reporters walked away (or were even carried away alive) from a car that was targeted by an IAF missle.

So in other words, the IDF struck at the propoganda arm of several jihadist terrorist groups. Is this surprising?

#21

Do you think Green Helmut Guy is strong enough to hold up two grown men? (above his head as is his trademark)

Just Photoshop it.

Do you think Green Helmut Guy could raise an entire vehicle up above his head?

These are important questions...

(I once knew a man who could pull 5 buses chained togther)

Green Helmet Guy will soon be featured on Hizbollah currency.

chazmo 8/26/2006 03:35PM PDT

"welcome aboard al-ivanj,
I think it happened in the Gaza strip."

Thank you, I've been waiting forever for the registration to open, it gave me time to think up a cool name.

and yeah, I didnt read the article, just the headline. And then afterwards I read it and thought "great, my first post and I look like an idiot"

probably alqaeda.ir

Believe nothing, doubt everything.

Consider the sources.

The MSM can never regain what little credibility they had.

#29 MSMediaCritic

His face is already being branded on Saudi camels.

In stocks news:

The Reuters indices of the day is at 6, showing a 300% gain from yesterday. Futures traders are advised to expect a drop in the price of Reuters stock when the truth of the affiliation of these 2 "journalists" comes out.

It's easier to blame Israel than trying to explain to accounting that you ran into a statue of Arafat, because your collegue was giving you a blow job while you were driving.

That okay Al-ivanj, I have over 100 and I still look like an idiot!

I'm just waiting for the day when it's not the IDF that strikes...

When the headlines read,

"Israeli civilians drag UNIFIL members from vehicle, chain them to a nearby tree, and set the vehicle on fire"

That would be pleasing, yes...

Why does anyone bother to believe anything from Reuters any more. They have been confirmed as liars and they shouldn't have the respect that the third world insists on giving them.

#35 Earth2moonbat 8/26/2006 03:45PM PDT

It's easier to blame Israel than trying to explain to accounting that you ran into a statue of Arafat, because your collegue was giving you a blow job while you were driving.

Please tell me there's a link for that... :-)

#14 Hal

snert! :-)

37 alkmyst 8/26/2006 03:48PM PDT

Poor tree.

My, we LGFers are a cynical and suspicious lot, aren't we? (Keeps us sane and on our toes.)

OT:

We're approaching the 1 year anniversary of the Katrina landfall. I've put together a piece on the subject, and am also putting a call out to other posters who want to add their thoughts to a piece I'm working on about the 5-year anniversary of 9/11. Email me at lawhawk@yahoo.com if you have links or other info to share about that.

Air strike hurts two journalists in Gaza: doctors
---19 minutes ago

GAZA (Reuters) - An Israeli air strike hit a Reuters vehicle in Gaza City on Saturday, wounding two journalists, doctors and residents said.

One of the journalists, who worked for a local media organization, was seriously wounded. A cameraman working for Reuters was knocked unconscious in the air strike, the doctors said.

~~~~~~~~

Com'on would Al- Reuters lie?

Haniyah: Abducted Journalists Will be Released

23:45 Aug 26, '06 / 2 Elul 5766

(IsraelNN.com) PA (Palestine Authority) Prime Minister Ismail Haniyah announced on Saturday night that two foreign journalists abducted by Gazan terrorists would be released in the coming hours.

The two Fox News reporters were said to be in good condition earlier on Saturday when the terrorist’s deadline expired.

It is now 1:52 AM, Israel time.

Hey everyone.

Not only is God our the IDF's side, but so is Kiss.

Gene Simmons: Israeli soldier a 'hero'

JERUSALEM - The flamboyant, Israeli-born rocker Gene Simmons has sent a televised message of support to an Israeli soldier seriously wounded in fighting in Lebanon, calling him his 'hero.'

KISS Army indeed.

I think Green Helmut Guy should get a corner office with a view at Reuterss, don't you?

(The SS was not intentional)

The fact is that this sort of incident - a news vehicle being hit in a warzone (especially one owned by a publically discredited agency who works with terrorists) - will be inconsequential.

What would Israel's enemys' point be: that the IAF purposefully attacked the Reuters car and risked bringing even more heat and opposition upon it? That doesn't make sense.

Much more plausible than anything else is that Israel was going after terrorist leaders and Reuters just happened to be right there. Reuters, as we have seen, spends a lot of time up close and personal with Arab terrorists.

On that note, I would not wish harm on the journalists.

Rewrite! Someone get me rewrite!

The Editor & Publisher version:

Two 19-year-old journalists, or maybe they were 21, were wounded, well, maybe not, by an Israeli air strike that hit a Reuters vehicle in Gaza City on Saturday, doctors and residents said. Or maybe they didn't say it. We don't know. We were off getting high at the time.

One of the journalists interns, who may be either 19 or 21, who worked for a local media organization, the Al-Niagara Gazette, was seriously wounded. Maybe. A cameraman working for Reuters was lightly wounded, (or was it lightly breaded?) in the air strike, the doctors said. We can't verify that they were doctors, but we'll report it anyway. The army was checking the report.

Looks like lessons have been learned and Reuters is going for vague, ambiguous and unconfirmable.

#45 alkmyst:

We're on top of the case. Haniyeh is trying to spin this situation to good news for Hamas, perhaps to use as leverage against Israel down the road.

It's a return to the triangulation policy used by Fatah, Hamas and PIJ to use terror by one group to the advantage of all - spreading the risks. And it comes on the heels of a deal between Hamas and Fatah on powersharing (though Hamas was the big winner and Fatah lost that power struggle).

I must be in an especially warlike mood today, because I posted 2 posts on the Iran nukes thread calling for war with Iran. And I'd like your thoughts on my two posts, anyone who cares to discuss this.

But if that thread is really dead, then I'll say this re the Reuters journalists:

"Who cares?"

Now would be an excellent time to start taking the gloves off re the way the U.S. and Israel fight wars.

Sure, we wanted to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis, and maybe we did. We'll find out later. But I see no good reason to coddle our enemies. They should fear us. Surely this must be part of military doctrine somewhere in the U.S. armed forces.

Hamas, Hezbollah, AL reuters, same thing.

And who was the driver?

#49 JammieWearingFool. That was deliciously wicked.

When Rueters insist on describing ANY of their employees as journalists, they should at least put the word in quotes.

#48 hank in the eu
I think its a strech to call that group journalists.

#50 The Albatross

Looks like lessons have been learned and Reuters is going for vague, ambiguous and unconfirmable.

And no fauxtographs.

A Google search for “Sabbah Hmaida” turns up nothing. I’d like to know which “local news web site” she works for.

Charles, could this be it?

Wonder if the Reuters press car comes with a hole in the roof so you can easily spot the missle entry point, like the ambulances?

#41 MSMediaCritic 8/26/2006 03:50PM PDT

37 alkmyst 8/26/2006 03:48PM PDT

Poor tree.

Depends on the tree, really...

I couldn't help but notice also missing from this (heh) story are the obligatory direct quote from a Daher (should one happen to be nearby) and a photograph. Anybody got a stuffed animal and a noxious lament they'd like to pony up? We gotta flesh this story out here... it's just not heartrending enough.

/sarc off

#52 Promethea. Yes, Iran has declared war on us since 1979. They just can't seem to get us to rise to take the bait. And I really don't know why that is the case. Having said that, I do think it's just a matter of time before we have a declared war with Iran and I dread the thought because of what will preface it.

IAF blasts jihadi PSYOPS vehicle... I fail to see the problem here! Good shooting IAF!

#59
what a gum shoe I think you could have nailed her !

#57 gizmo

Well, we still use the wire agencies as primary news sources, right? They are full of crap but still journalists, I guess.

#13 al-ivanj - Welcome aboard LGF!
And someone should tell Rueters that armored cars work best when you'r inside them, not standing next to them filming an Israeli attack.

So? 8/26/2006 03:41PM PDT

"Do you think Green Helmut Guy could raise an entire vehicle up above his head?"

[Link: img85.imageshack.us...]

We know the options:

It is possible that it wasn't an IAF strike, but from Hamas, a work accident, or otherwise caused by the other side.

It is possible that it didn't happen at all.

It is possible that it was an IAF strike, but that terrorists were in the vehicle itself or in the immediate area, or that Reuters was in some way aiding or shielding the activities.

And lastly, it is possible that it was somewhat just what they say, an IAF strike that hit a vehicle used by journalists, but then we know it wasn't intentional.

And given history, the last option, that this is what they are saying right now, seems very remote, because these stories never turn out to be what the "Palestinian doctors report."

Note that it isn't even a remote option that this was an intentional attack by Israel on journalists.

I think Abolitionist nailed it... just a hunch.

[Link: sabbah.biz...]

Reuters is little more then the propaganda wing of Hamas. IMHO they are a legit target.

#46 Canadian Guy 8/26/2006 03:53PM PDT

Not only is God our the IDF's side, but so is Kiss.

What a nice Jewish boy, that Gene.

Like-minded is another Jewish hard-rocker, Dave Mustane (who my friend Ben Bresky interviewed many months ago on israelnationalnews.com)

Heavy metal maven Dave Mustaine is so angry with the United Nations that he is naming his group Megadeth's next album "United Abominations."

#68
LOL

"A few objects of unknown composition landed in an undisclosed area and may have caused undetermined damage to as yet to be disclosed objects."
"Israel appears to be the aggressor in this genocide" said an anonymous source.

I used to think that my skills in pattern analysis and spatial relationships were all but worthless, even though I totally maxed those aptitudes on a totally blind test.

I have to rethink that now. I'm now seeing what I've never seen before. Dishonesty is now lighting up like a Christmas tree for me.

I guess there is some useful purpose after all.

#56 Clemente 8/26/2006 03:58PM PDT
When Rueters insist on describing ANY of their employees as journalists, they should at least put the word in quotes.

I like that! One man's "journalist" is another man's

A) "terrorist enabler".
B) "advocate"
C) "enemy of civilization"
D) "useful idiot" (my favorite)
E) "Cynthia McKinney"

Any other nominations.

If it had been a MISSILE which hit their 'armored vehicle', those two Clinton-voters would not have limped away to lie another day.

Why is every machine gun and cannon round a 'missle' now? If it had actually been a Hellfire or similar missile hitting them, they'd be in.....hell

#69 Silhouette

And lastly, it is possible that it was somewhat just what they say, an IAF strike that hit a vehicle used by journalists, but then we know it wasn't intentional.

Nope. There'd be nothing left of either the vehicle, or the passengers, if that was the case. The pictures on Fox were decidedly not of a bombed vehicle. Period.

#74 solomonpanting

That's about the size of it.

#51 lawhawk 8/26/2006 03:56PM PDT

#45 alkmyst:

We're on top of the case. Haniyeh is trying to spin this situation to good news for Hamas, perhaps to use as leverage against Israel down the road.

Good on you...

Of course he is! Lie, cheat, steal, kidnap, and blame on the next guy, who then takes over as the "extremist"

Related: I was at a party tonight and I actually heard the words uttered, "but then you have someone more moderate, like abbas..."

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!

#52

Ditto.

If it's a real incident, they'll use it as a propaganda cudgel to hurt us/Israel. If it was a fake incident, it was created to be a propaganda cudgel against us/Israel.

Best let all my other thoughts go unsaid.

#77 NhaTrang72

Why is every machine gun and cannon round a 'missle' now?

Because that way, they can blame it on the IAF. Seeing as the IDF wasn't in a position to cause that kind of damage.

"Israel appears to be the aggressor in this genocide" said an anonymous source."

Isn't that special?

I was just wondering why Reuters would risk more humiliation by not checking this story further before going with it and then I realized that it will be broadcast throughout the middle east and never be corrected or retracted if proved to be false or in error.

/Got the job done.

IF it turns out to be a true story, would it be safe to say they deserve it? After all the LLL is saying the Fox News crew deserved to be kidnapped?

#72 alkmyst

"United Abominations."

I love that! I sure hope you, Ben, and Dave don't mind if I acquire that!

Such actions are perfectly OK according to Information Clearing House. Fire away, Boys!

From Sabbah's web page:

The Short Form:

Haitham Sabbah; Husband Wife-beater, sheep lover and a Father of an active 2 boys and 1 little girl; an Electronics & Communication Engineer (failed English); born at Kuwait on April, 2nd, 1969. Jordanian national with Palestinian origins. (Don't all arabs claim this nonsense?) He lives, work and blog from Bahrain now.

Why do I blog?

The reason is my disappointment of what I read about what and how the Middle East is represented to the world online. It was (and maybe still) an image drawn with black painting on a black background.
Create islamic spin and blame Jooooooos.

#85 NCJeff

Great minds think alike!

Salient things from the AP story I just read:

"Palestinian witnesses said" -it's based on Pali witnesses. OK.

The Israeli army said it was checking the report.

Again, per Pali witnesses, the two Arab Reuters guys were standing around with several Palis in the Shajaiyeh neighborhood of Gaza filming an Israeli raid when missiles hit the car. Sounds like they were standing a little too close to the action.

There were no serious injuries but rather moderate shrapnel wounds.

#77 NhaTrang72 - Welcome aboard LGF! I take it from your nic you were one of the last out of RVN?
I was in Tay Ninh (actually points west...way west of there myself in '70!

Fuck 'em.

#92 Europhobe

Hey watch your language...FBI is watching.

:)

Israel army confirms air strike on Gaza vehicle

It wouldn't really bother me if the IAF put a Hellfire right up their tailpipe.

How was the car swarm? Any pics?

#70 The Albatross
I found haitham.sabbah@gmail.com (top right - Email Me), but have not yet found the name Hmaida on the site. Maybe it's an alternative transliteration/spelling thing, or possibly Hmaida is a relative.

To Reuters, it seems that:

missile = rock
missile = bullet
missile = rocket
missile = mean words
missile = anything that might go "boom"
missile = Oprah
missile = missile

But, then, al-Reuters wouldn't know a missile if one actually hit them, so it really doesn't matter...

To them, anything thrown, shot, launched, or fired is a "missile".

If the guy in the green shirt off his meds or -

an out of work actor?

abolitionist (#59),

Don't know, the email link says "contact Haitham Sabbah".

[Link: www.palmedia.ps...]

First archived Jan 24, 2005. Last archived April 1, 2005.

Sounds fishy to me, too

The Reuters terrorists.. I mean journalists, were staging another fake story using explosives to damage their vehicle. Unfortunately the explosives detonated while they were planting them on their own vehicle - thus injuring the terrorists...I mean journalists.

Palmedia, huh?

Sounds familiar...

Palmedia is one of Paltel Group's companies Established in 2005,.

Where have I heard of Paltel before?

Oh that's right - my bestest buddy slimy shimon has some interest in Paltel...

As WND reported, the Israel Resource News Agency, an Israeli investigative organization, in February privately requested the Knesset probe the establishment by Peres of the Peace Technology Fund, a $160 million venture-capital entity created in part to encourage investment in the Palestinian economy.

Investors in the fund, allegedly procured while Peres was minister of regional cooperation under Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak in 1999, include the Palestinian National Authority and several companies that in the past have contributed to the Peres Center for Peace, a non-profit think tank founded by Peres.

The fund's first investment – a $9 million, 3-percent stake in Paltel, a Palestinian telecommunications company – was announced in Business Week in June 1999, one month after Peres assumed his ministerial position that year.

The article reported, "A venture capital fund founded by former Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres has taken a $9 million, 3.3 percent stake in Paltel ... The investment is the first by the peace fund, which was established last year by Israeli and Palestinian investors."

The price of Paltel's shares jumped from 2.5 Jordanian dinars in May 1999 to 4.5 in August of that year, reportedly realizing a nearly $10 million profit for the Fund's investment.

The stock increase has been widely attributed to a monopoly license granted in August 1999 by the Palestinian Authority to Paltel for the company to operate exclusive wireless services in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

David Bedein, director of the Israel Resource News Agency, raised questions regarding the possibility Peres profited from the Paltel investment, and whether he knew in advance, through government contacts while he was an Israeli minister, the PA was going to grant Paltel the exclusive contract.

Other questions surround Peres' involvement in the procurement of a $22 million investment in the fund by the Palestinian National Authority, also allegedly while Peres was an Israeli minister. The PNC is a monetary branch of the Palestinian Authority.

As well, nearly $10 million was raised by the fund from Bank Leumi, Teva Pharmaceuticals, Federmann Enterprises, Koor Industries, Arison Investments, Strauss Holding, Delta Galil, Daimler Chrysler and Keter Plastics. Most are contributors to the Peres Center for Peace, which itself is listed as a member of the fund's advisory board.

Oh there's more...

plenty more...

So Al-Reuters sticks a couple of Palestinian journos in a warzone, wait for them to get hit... voila! - news!

I find it interesting that there are no photos of the "event" surfacing apart from a couple of the supposed wounded journalist. The video released, so far, is brief and it appears that the vehicle was not hit directly, but perhaps by some shrapnel?

The whole thing seems really questionable and we'll have to wait and see. Obviously, the Jenin massacre propaganda machine is spewing their usual lies...

You'd think they would have learned at least something from the ambulance debunking, but no: The van was hit by something - most likely flying debris from a miss - but it wasn't hit directly by a missle. If it had been, it would have been destroyed; not just damaged.

I smell a rat, and I wouldn't give his @$$ to a starving Reuters reporter.

The IAF must be using the worldest smallest and least deadly missles these days.

Catttt (#99),

No doubt. What's up with that? Seems like every Lebanese rescue worker wails like a baby in need of a change.

Between their forged photos and slanted stories, Reuters is working for the enemy. Take 'em out!

I've seen some video: looks like shrapnel into the roof of the vehicle.

I dunno.

I suspect Charles, zombie, and Richard North of Eureferendum have been declared rightgeous gentiles.

Who's in Paltel/Palmedia?

By the year 1995, AutoTECH became an entity of Mr Sabih T Masri,

From Padico we can see here:

Dr. Abdel Malek Jaber (Alternative spelling Abdul Malik Jaber)
Representing Cairo Amman Bank
Vice Chairman / CEO

They include people such as Muhammad Rashid, a key adviser to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat; Yasser Abbas, a top businessman and son of Abu Mazen, Arafat's deputy and the number two man in the Palestinian Authority; Abdul Malik Al Jaber, director of Padaco, the biggest investment company in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip; Farouk Fanoush, head of Coca Cola Palestine; and a host of engineers, doctors and lawyers.
...
"Canada is so peaceful and nice, just a wonderful, wonderful place," said Jaber, 39, who earned his Ph.D. in engineering at Montreal's McGill University, and his MBA at renowned Northwestern University in Chicago.
[...]
In 1999, Jaber moved to the private sector and currently he chairs several companies in Palestine, including ; Chairman of the Executive Board and Vice Chairman of PALTEL, Chairman of the Golden Mills, Chairman of Al-Mashreq Real Estate Company, Board Member of Cairo Amman Bank and Chairman of the Local Board of Cairo Amman Bank and Vice Chairman of Jawwal.

In addition, Jaber is a Board Member in Palestinian Tourism Investment Company, Palestinian Industrial Investment Company, Al Ayyam Daily, and PIEDCO. Dr. Jaber is the CEO of the Palestinian Industrial Estate

Development Holding Company. Active in peace building and regional economic cooperation projects. He is a member of the board of several private sector groups and business councils, including the Canadian Palestinian Business Council, Arab Business Council and membership chair of Young Presidents Organization - Palestine at large Chapter.

Jaber is a graduate of Jordan University of Science and Technology -Jordan, McGill University - Canada, North Western University- Kellogg School of Business Administration and Tel Aviv University and holds a PhD and MSC in Engineering and an MBA .

Recipient of Sheikh Mohamad Bin Maktoum (Best Arab Manager) Award for Excellence in Management for the year 2001. Abdel Malek Jaber is married to lawyer Rania Jaber and has two daughters, Ayah and Maya.

It'll take some time, but I intend to get some more info on these jokers
terrorists members here:

Dr. Farouk Zuaiter
Representing PADICO

Mr. Ghiath Sukhtian
Representing PADICO

Mr. Lieth M. Masri
Representing PADICO

Mr. Mohammad Rashid
Representing Palestine Investment Fund
(see above - Muhammad Rashid, a key adviser to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat)

Mr. Majed Abdel Rahim
Representing Arab Bank

Mr. Walid Al Najjab
Representing Management Consulting Services

Mr. Talal Naser Eldien
Representing Beir Zait Pharmaceutical Co.

Mr. Sharhabil Al Za'eem
Representing PIEDCO Holding

Mr. Hani Al Kadi
Representing Palestine Investment Bank

#99 Catt & #108 geepers
It seems the palis and hezbos might have moved on to swarming stretchers instead of cars.

stretcher swarm kind of a mouthful

gurney swarm?

test

#113 mandel
Not a test ahh crap i forgot to study.

#94 fraxinus americana

That report implies that this was fire from a helicopter. The army doesn't fly F-16s, and fire "missiles". I wonder if the IDF will come forward with more info on the "suspicious manner" in which it was operating, and for that matter, if we can even confirm that this Reuters vehicle was in fact the one the IDF fired on?

I think we're still in 24-48 hour mode.

fraxinus americana (#112),

Stretcher screamers?

Gurney grievers?

Wussy puss boys?

Free; Free at last!
Howdy ya'll.

CHARLES

The “local news web site” URL seems to be [Link: www.palmedia.ps,...] but it currently leads to a “suspended service” page: a7lashbab.com/suspended.page.

I detect the scent of fish.

I believe I do too.

AraFish.

Here's a little something with his stench from 8/14/2000.

Palestinian National Authority Official Website
Building the State of Palestine

Palestinian Expatriates Forth Conference
Businessmen & Professionals
Ramallah

TENTATIVE PROGRAM

Monday Auguest, 7

Morons.

Tuesday August, 8th (Jerusalem-Orient House)

09:00-10:30

- Fourth Session: Jerusalem, Capital of Palestine

Well at least they spelled August right. Here's something on the location - Orient House

The Orient House
The PLO Headquarters in Jerusalem
The Orient House is the symbol of Palestinian aspirations for autonomy and solidarity in Israeli Occupied Jerusalem and is the only establishment today waving the Palestinian national flag.

That says volumes right there, nay?

Wednesday Aug. 9th (Grand Park Hotel)

3 different ways of indicating August in the exact same page. A little consistency, here people! Sheesh!

09:00-10:30 - Fifth Session: Financing the Development Plan
- Moderator: Dr. Ahmad Suboh - D.G. of MOPIC
- Role Donors: Dr. Atif Alawneh - Deputy Minister of Finance
- Role of Commercial Banks: Mr. Shukri Bisharah, Arab Bank Regional Dir.
- Role of Investment Banks: Mr. Chris August - D.G. Palestinian Development fund
- Role of Expatriates. Dr. Sari Hanafi. Director, PALESTA

Hey, wasn't there an LGF troll around here somewhere named shukri? Same guy, or just somewhere in the PhLOem of the family tree?

#68 al-ivanj 8/26/2006 04:06PM PDT

Great job!

You are now my Official Photoshop Green Helmut Guy

Do you think Green Helmut Guy has ever had a lapdance?

Isn't it a standard military tactic to take out the enemy's communications? The only fault of the IAF is they apparently missed.

#115 Earth2moonbat

"This car was not identified by the army as a press vehicle. This has been a combat area. It is not recommended for anyone to be around. We do not target the press. If journalists were hurt, we regret it."

We do not target the press stood out to me. PLus it was 4 min old when i posted it.

I think we're still in 24-48 hour mode.

If you mean untill we get more info? yup if not longer. noyice the IDF said a car. The press vehicle was an SUV. That could just be looking too far into it 'tho.

Wanna talk to Dr Abdel Malik Jaber?

Name: Dr. Abdul Malik Al Jaber
Email: AbdulMalik.AlJaber@abchallenge.org
Position: Vice Chairman & CEO
Company: Palestinian Telecom Comp
Sector: Telecom & IT

Don't know if it's valid, use at own risk.

Thanks, 'realwest': Tay Ninh in 1970 must have been truly and deeply In The Shit; way west of there, even deeper so.

Earth2Moonbat re #82, it was of course a rhetorical question / complaint, but there is such an unending tsunami of this type of faux-reportage......

I just saw that Fat Boy CNN hired to goose up their ratings say that losing the war in Iraq would lead to "the end of the West"--and he got Lieberman to agree with him in an interview.

Is it just me or is Nasrallah cross-eyed? High? Crazy?

#121 fraxinus americana

"If journalists were hurt, we regret it."

Just watch - you can take this to the bank - someone will have a headline tomorrow something along the lines of "Israel appologises for attacking and injuring unarmed journalists".

vehicle smheicle, we're at war. simple as that.

Now I hope Israel has received the bunker busters it ordered from the USA, cause they're gonna have to use em and soon against Iran;the country that has really wussified the UN and has declared war on Israel by calling for it's annahilation.

Social Networking of Dr. Zuiater Farouk

Note how close James Zogby is.

Do you think Nasrallah can balance a vehicle on his head?

#116 Geepers

Gurney grievers

LOL That'll work

Good Gravey, Gurney Grievers Gallivanting aGain!

You wait and wait and then - first post, wrong thread. I even previewed.

fraxinus americana (#129),

Good Gravey, Gurney Grievers Gallivanting aGain!

Palmedia/Paltel

Mr. Ghiath Sukhtian
Representing PADICO

Zoomed here

Ghiath Sukhtian has founded, operated, and invested in numerous, highly successful, world-class businesses. As the Vice Chairman and founder of the Munir Sukhtian Group, he has provided his management expertise and operating abilities to, for example, MOSECO Jordan, Household Toiletries Manufacturing Company, Jordan Greenhouse Manufacturing Company, Safa Dairy Products, Arabian Office Automation and Manar Hotels. As the founder and CEO of the MS Group Saudi Joint Venture with ASTRA, Mr. Sukhtian has been the chief executive of Nour Communications, Tabuk Pharmaceutical, AstraChem and Astra Agriculture. With a B.S. from the University of Houston, and Board Positions on numerous companies, he has distinguished his businesses by their efficiency of operations invariably resulting in market success.
...
Mr. Sukhtian has interacted with private and public capital markets with regard to structuring financing for various projects and transactions, and overseen the merger and role-ups of several entities in the Middle East. He received his MBA from Columbia Business School in Finance, a Masters of Science and B.S. in Management from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in New York.

Columbia, huh? Quel suprise! And a BS also in NYC.

Where else would someone like this go to find sympathetic ears for the plight of the poor (well, poorer than him) pallys?

PSM/ISM/terrorist-loving Georgetown maybe?

Board of Advisors
Mr. Ghiath Sukhtian

Munir Sukhtian Group Co., Ltd., Jordan

You betcha!

Now that's odd - digging up info on various arabs in connection to arafish, and suddenly I get this?

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Apparently Zoominfo can't handle the stress?

Anyone else get this error?

#131 geepers

Eggsallent

Palmedia/Paltel

Mohammed Rashid

This guy sounds familiar...

Oh, right, that's why

Israeli concerns aside, Palestinian sources confirmed this week that returning Jericho to PA hands and its casino to full operation is now "at the top of the Palestinian agenda". West Bank strongman Jibril Rajoub and former senior Arafat financial advisor Mohammed Rashid who is known to control Arafat's several billion dollar portfolio top the list of Palestinians believed to have among the heaviest financial interests in the casino.

Who else had alot of heaavy interest in that casino, anyway?

It is also well known in Israel that MK Omri Sharon, the Prime Minister's son and closest confidante and Former Sharon Bureau Chief Dov Weissglass have been long time associates of Rashid. The younger Sharon and Weissglass were reportedly Rashid's guests at his swank Tel Aviv Apartment on the night of Sharon's election victory in February 2001 according to Israeli journalists Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff in their 2004 book, The Seventh War.

But, of course, the "disengagement" was nothing more than a tactical manuever by a great general.

Spit.

#119

"Do you think Green Helmut Guy has ever had a lapdance?"

[Link: img180.imageshack.us...]

Car swarm and stretcher-shot freakout pics are up on AP - definitely a well-marked "Reuters" and "Press" vehicle, white with red and blue lettering (looks like a Land Rover - white Land Rovers are used by PA forces a lot)

We Canucks have got our own problems with Afghan cops roaring around Kandahar checkpoints armed and in plainclothes and getting themselves shot.

Car swarm and stretcher-shot freakout pics are up on AP - definitely a well-marked "Reuters" and "Press" armoured vehicle, white with red and blue lettering (looks like a Land Rover - white Land Rovers are used by PA forces a lot)

We Canucks have got our own problems with Afghan cops roaring around Kandahar checkpoints armed and in plainclothes and getting themselves shot.

Palmedia/Paltel

Majed Abdel-Rahim Global Head of IT at Arab Bank.

Thursday, 24 February 2005

+++ Arab Bank, InnoKAT and INTRACOM Partnership in Excellence +++

Amman, Jordan - Feb 22nd Arab Bank, InnoKAT FZ-LLC, INTRACOM announced today the launch of FUSION, a unique regional IT company focusing on solutions for financial services with Headquarters in Dubai and a development centre in Amman, Jordan.
[...]
"FUSION will be ready to offer its products and services this summer. The company will develop vertical applications for the Financial Services Industry in our region based on proven technologies from leading technology providers. The combination of banking knowledge, proven technologies, and top notch professional services will position FUSION as the provider of choice for the financial industry." concluded Majed Abdel-Rahim Global Head of IT at Arab Bank.

About Arab Bank plc

The Arab Bank was established in 1930 in Jerusalem. And today after more than 75 years the bank operates a global network of more than 400 branches and offices on five continents. The Arab Bank group has a balance sheet of USD 36.5 billion, shareholder's equity of USD 3.3 billion and a 2004 income of USD 319 million. The bank started automating its operations in the mid 1960s, and continues to be a pioneer in adopting new and innovative technologies to serve its customers.

innovative technologies? Hmmmm.

Here's more on the Arab Bank in Jerusalem

On February 25, 2004, the Israeli security forces seized Arab Bank funds in an operation designed to confiscate money on deposit for terrorist organizations in banks in the PA-administered territories. The branches were chosen on the basis of intelligence information supported by captured documents. The information showed that Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad had an clear preference for both depositing their money and moving through the Arab Bank . (The names of the organizations whose funds were confiscated can be found in Appendix F. )
The Arab Bank is the Palestinian terrorist organizations' favorite bank because it has many branches throughout the PA-administered territories and elsewhere and is therefore more convenient than any other bank. It can be assumed that various bank officials are aware that the deposits originate with terrorist organizations and are used for terrorist activities or for the infrastructure supporting them (See below), but choose to turn a blind eye.

Oh there's plenty more there...

Conclusion so far:

"journalists" working with reuters worked for Palmedia/Paltel, which has on it's Board of Directors many high-level terrorists (and supporters) including the guy who runs the IT wing of the Arab Bank, which was raided by Israel for their known actions of assisting the payments of terrorists.

Verdict:

Let these Reuters "journalists" roast in hell.

CHARLES:

UPDATE at 8/26/06 6:53:45 pm:

The Bangkok Post says Sabah Hemeida (note different spelling) works for ... Dubai TV:

See my #139 for a Dubai connection in the (Pal)Media

well....if Israel DID in fact hit Al Reuters? Good. Hit more of them.

By "working for reuters", we can assume that they're talking about hizbo shills, er... uh...neutral, freelancing stringers that is.

Palmedia/Paltel

Walid A. Al-Najjab

Name of the Company: Management Consulting Services (mcs)
Title: General Manager Walid A. Al-Najjab
Address: P.O. box 3715 Al- Bireh
Tel: 02-29540012
Fax: 02-2986410
E-MAIL: najjab@mcs-palestine.com
HTTP: [Link: WWW.MCS-palestine.com...]
Business Activities: Providing professional economic, management and marketing advisory services. main areas: pojectevaluation and feasibility studies, market research and analgsis, financial management consultings

Not so much available info on this guy, although he does seem to have appeared here

Palestinian Committee for Peace and Reform
Roundtable Meeting

September 30, 2003

Related Project: Middle East Forum
Presider: Judith Kipper
Speakers: Walid Al-Najjab, Management Consulting Services Company
Suheil Gedeon, The Palestinian American Chamber of Commerce
Samer Khoury, Consolidated Contractors Company
Tarek Aggad, Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld
Munzer Khalidi
Nabil Qaddumi
George R. Salem

Palmedia/Paltel

Talal Naser (Nasser) Eldin (El-Din)

The London conference

Tony Blair’s government is holding a second economic conference in London to build on the first conference held several months ago. On the 12th of December the conference will convene and the Minister of National Economy Mr. Mazen Sinokrot will head with Salam Fayyad the Palestinian delegation (if Dr. Fayyad withdraws his resignation).

The conference will include the most important private sector representatives like Dr. Hanni Shawwa, CEO and Chairman of the Bank of Palestine, Zahi Khoury, chairman and CEO of Coca Cola and Jawal, Abdul Malik Abdel Jaber (could this be the same guy from my post #111? Nahhhh), the head of the industrial parks and chairman of several PADICO companies, Munib Masri (I believe this is probably Mr. Lieth M. Masri, whom I am finding it difficult so far to get info on. I'll try this alias.), the Head of PADICO, Talal Nasser el Din, CEO of Birzeit Pharmaceutical Company and chairman of a new banking enterprise in Palestine, Hanna Abu Dayyeh from NET tours a leading tourism company and many others.

Joint and tri-lateral projects will be announced at the conference, foreign and Israeli investors will be encouraged to participate and to invest. The team of James Wolfensohn, as well as a representative of the World Bank, Dr. Nigel Roberts will be there to encourage investors. Major projects in natural gas, energy, desalination, housing and infrastructure, will be announced for immediate implementation and encouraging investors to join these projects.

I believe this is the same man, different spelling/alias.

NASSEREDDIN, TALAL (1949-)

Born in Jerusalem on 1 Nov. 1949; was educated at the Frères School in Jerusalem; received an MA in Chemistry from the AUB in 1974; since March 1984, CEO and Chairman of the Board of the Birzeit Palestine Pharmaceutical Company, the largest Pharmaceutical manufacturing entity in Palestine; Board Chairman of the Palestine Printing and Publishing Co. since March 1993; was co-founder and Board member of PalTrade from June 1997-Aug. 1998; served as Chairman of the Palestinian Federation of Industries from Aug. 1999-March 2003; served as Vice-Chairman of the Palestinian Standards Institute from April 2001-March 2003; is a Board member of the Palestinian Investment Promotion Agency (PIPA) since Aug. 2000, of the Palestinian Investment Fund since Oct. 2002, of the Palestinian Industrial Areas Development Co. ( Piedco) since Sept. 2003 and of PalTel since May 2004; serves as Chairman of the Board of Petropal-Hebron since Sept. 2003, of the Ma’an Development Center since May 2004, and of the Lotus Financial Investment since Jan. 2005; Founding Committee Chairman and Chairman of the Board of Alrafah Bank since Sept. 2005.

Al Rafah Bank

the first Palestinian Bank that specializes in small to medium size funding providing Microfinance Services that include funding, investment, savings and insurance as a complete package for the SME business sectors has announced its selection of the core banking application solution provided by Jordan based CEB.

clip from yahoo

Israeli attack helicopters also machine gunned buildings in eastern Gaza City and fired a missile at a militant, but missed.

dubai tv clip

They said that an Israeli helicopter fired two missiles at people gathering in the Sheja’eya neighbourhood in eastern Gaza City as the Reuters’ car drove past nearby.

Clip from Charle's first link as of posting time

The missile struck the vehicle after dark. The armored car was clearly labeled as a media vehicle, with signs on all sides, including the roof.

Is this the same attack? I've heard of witnesses getting details wrong.
I ask:

1 MG fire at buildings, missile fire at a militant?

2 car drove past nearby, two missiles fired at people?

3 missile struck the vehicle?

Follow the money...

Something tells me that the first report that it was a "local news web site" connected to Paltel is the correct one, not the Dubai TV. Even if it is the case that the "journalist" really is from Dubai, they have had plenty enough anti-Israel activities, and there is financial and Information Tech connections between Dubai and the pallys.

A new bank—Al Rafah Bank—being established by leading Palestinian businesses (including
PADICO, PalTel and Birzeit Pharmaceutical) to engage in SME and microfinance is expected to
begin operations in the near future. The founders have committed $12.25 million; it is expected
that following a public offering, the bank’s initial capital will total $30 million (well above the
$20 million minimum required by the PMA). The bank is in the early stages of designing its products and planning its operations but lacks exposure to the practices of banks successfully
engaged in microfinance in other countries.
Money Changers. Although money changers are not generally thought of in the West Bank and
Gaza as part of the microfinance sector, many of them do engage in microlending (i.e., loans of
$5,000 or less). In addition to making loans (typically collateralized by post-dated checks), they
receive remittances, cash checks and exchange currency. As noted above, only an estimated 50%
of money changers hold licenses for this activity from the PMA, and their licenses technically do
not permit them to engage in lending activity of any sort.

Small loans are exactly the kind of way that would make it harder to track payments out to finance small terror cells.

The Palestinian microfinance sector, as well as the banks who have in the past run microfinance
programs, have benefited over the past ten years from significant donor funding, which, by some
very rough estimates, has exceeded US$50 million for technical assistance and loan funds.
USAID, roughly estimated to have provided more than US$30 million, has thus far been the
primary donor supporting the development of microfinance in the West Bank and Gaza.

From the information gathered by the authors, the near-term
plans for donor funding of microfinance activities include:

• USAID—a $5 million grant awarded to FATEN in 2005. Although USAID has been the
main funder of the Palestinian microfinance sector (having provided the bulk of foreign
assistance to Palestinian MFIs and supported two successful bank downscaling programs
before the Al Aqsa Intifada), it has no active projects planned for 2006.
• AECI/Spain—a credit line of up to Euro 10 million to Palestinian MFIs to be managed by
the Ministry of Finance, together with Euro 700,000 for technical assistance and MFI ca-
pacity building that will include the cost of a microfinance advisor. AECI is interested in
working with CGAP on a capacity building program.
• IFAD—financial and technical support to PARC for its network of cooperatives, with a
total grant of $ 1.1 million. The project is expected to end in 2006.
• IFC—technical assistance for the start-up phase of the Al Rafah Bank. IFC is also con-
sidering providing technical assistance to other banks interested in offering microfinance
products and investment in Al Rafah bank.
• Islamic Development Bank—a proposed loan of $19 million and a grant of $2 million
that will be channeled through an arrangement established with the Ministry of Labor
(MoL) to MFIs to make loans to the poorest.
• European Union—no direct involvement in microfinance although some European NGOs
(SIDI, NOVIB) that are providing grants to Palestinian MFIs are funded under the EU
global NGO program. The EU food security program is also lobbying for a new microfi-
nance law (discussed below).

/to be continued

Two words: "Direct Hit!"

#146 continued

• Grameen Abdulatif Jameel initiative—looking at providing technical assistance and fund-
ing to some Palestinian microfinance institutions.
• KFW (Germany)—On December 13, 2005, KFW established, with EIB assistance, the
European Palestinian Credit Guarantee Fund (EPCGF) with at total capital of Euro 29
million to cover part of the credit risk of commercial banks lending in SME. In addition,
KFW and EIB will also provide technical assistance to the EPCGF and to local banks to
enhance their SME lending and operation.
• PlanetFinance (France)—developing a project to provide technical assistance to MFIs,
the Palestinian network of MFIs and Bank Al Rafah.
• Portland Trust (UK)—preparing a project to strengthen MFI capacity in the West Bank
and Gaza and is coordinating its activities with CGAP and other donors. The project will
be finalized during the first quarter of 2006.

I believe I've already mentioned the Portland Trust before, as has Carl in Jerusalem as it is another venture of slimy shimon peres, and eival giladi, bth of whom I would gladly kick straight the hell out of the tribe.

Gotta sleep. These guys will have to wait for tomorrow

Mr. Sharhabil Al Za'eem
Representing PIEDCO Holding

Mr. Hani Al Kadi
Representing Palestine Investment Bank

It's starting to dawn on me that the media don't know/don't care anout the difference between a missile, a bomb, a shell, a bullet, a BB, a paintball, and a spitwad. All the same.

It's about time someone started taking the fight to the REAL enemy: the international Left.

Missile strikes on SUVs aren't enough though. To really send a message a couple of bunker busters on the BBC headquarters, along with some lynchings of people like Ted Rall and Ramsey Clarke are in order.

Crush the Left and virtually all problems would disppear ($trillion global warming hoax/extortion ring) or become manageable (Islamism).

Re #59, #97 (me)
Supplemental info about sabbah.biz/mt/

1) At very bottom of main page, it says

Haitham Sabbah also master's Palestine Blogs - The Gazette.

2) Snippet of whois record for [Link: sabbah.biz...]
IP Location: United States - New Jersey - Parsippany - Net Access Corporation
Reverse DNS: dubai.dnsdriver.net

Last update (above) said

The Bangkok Post says Sabah Hemeida (note different spelling) works for ... Dubai TV

Co-incidence? I don't know.

Way late to the party but...

===

The SUV in question is a Tenix Defence Systems Shorland S55. It is all Land Rover underneath. They are somewhat common amongst various press organizations. I've seen photos of CNN using the exact same type of vehicles, in the Middle East.

As pointed out above, there is absolutely no way this vehicle was directly hit by any missile in Israeli service, it would not be recognizable if it had been. Nor does it appear to have been caused by 20mm or 30mm cannon fire. The various holes are much to irregular in size and shape.

The damage I saw in the Fox video appears to be shrapnel from a near miss. At least one piece of which appears to have penetrated the hood and exited the dashboard.

The S55s armor is only proof against small arms and light shrapnel.

ELVENKING,
R

#136 al-ivanj

lol lol lol lol truely funny!

I just saw a close-up of the Reuters Panzer on Fox, and all I could see were two or three holes, from a .50 cal or whatever the Jooooos use. No "missile" hit: the MSM fibbed again; I'm shocked & hurt

We know what al-Reuters has done before. It wouldn't suprize me if the vehicle hit was also used for the Hizbos.

A quick addendum to my last...

Otokar of Turkey builds their own version of the Shorland S55 which is identical to the original, and like the original is based on the Land Rover Defender.

I
CAN,
R

#136 al-ivanj

You're my main man!

Would you like to work on

The Green Helmut Guy Joke Book™

So? ™

"Let's drink to the hard-working people.
Let's drink to the lowly of birth."

Thank you Mick & Keith

An al-Reuters vehicle?

Kewlllllllll. Go IDF!

...all your fakes are belong to us...

The missile struck the vehicle after dark. The armored car was clearly labeled as a media vehicle, with signs on all sides, including the roof.

Hmmm...What good does labelling do after dark?

Also....what the heck is THAT?:

Both journalists were by the doors, covering an Israeli military incursion into the Shijaiya neighborhood of Gaza City, known as a stronghold of militant groups.

..Al-Reuters

The eyewitnesses said that the two camera operators were in a Reuters jeep heading to the area to cover the Israeli Army incursion into eastern Gaza City. They said that an Israeli helicopter fired two missiles at people gathering in the Sheja’eya neighbourhood in eastern Gaza City as the Reuters’ car drove past nearby.

?

Some odd things about the Reuters armored car:

Front view. The roof hole has the appearance of a tear in the sheet metal due to overpressure. There is rust damage all along front edge of roofline, and it looks more pronounced toward the passenger side (nearer the hole). This indicates the roof damage occured long ago.

Side view. The fender also looks bent up, as by percussion damage. But the ill-fitting hood does not. There's a black squarish thing just in front of door. Could it be a bracket for mounting something?

Door view. FORE GN PRESS !? Who writes this stuff?