LGF

 RetweetAn Eid Gift from Al Qaeda

Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 6:50:18 pm PDT

As Ramadan comes to its conclusion, the mujahideen send a holiday message to the Muslim world: Islamist Holiday Video Calls for Jihad and Slaughter of “Crusaders.”

This ten-minute video ( Link ), titled “Rise Up,” was posted on Islamist websites on October 22, 2006, and was described as “a gift for ‘Eid Al-Fitr.” Produced by an individual identified as “Abu Osama” (whose real identity is unknown), it calls on the Muslims to wage jihad against the “Crusaders.” A caption in the film explains that Abu Osama produced the film on the occasion of the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq.

The film begins with footage of horsemen under the caption: “O ye who believe! What is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter” (Koran 9:38).

Next, several Al-Qaeda leaders and commanders, including bin Laden, Al-Zawahiri, Al-Zarqawi and a number of unidentified young men (who may be field commanders or intended suicide bombers) call upon the Muslims to join the jihad. The following are excerpts:

Al-Zawahiri says: “I urge you, in [the name of] the duty of jihad, which is incumbent upon every Muslim, to hurry and pursue martyrdom in order to kill the Crusaders and the Zionists.” An armed individual calls: “[Oh] defenders of the faith, hurry and prepare [for jihad], this is no time for [internal] disagreement.” Another individual, sitting under a banner that reads, “Expel the polytheists from the Arabian Peninsula,” asks: “Are there no men in this nation?” and a masked individual declares: “Jihad is ancient, and the fate of [all] infidel leaders is one and the same: to be slaughtered.”

The video then shows a scene in which a man is beheaded. This is followed by another beheading, even more grisly, in which the severed head is waved in the air. (Both scenes, and another graphic scene, have been omitted from the version of the film posted here, but are available upon request).

Advertisement

771 comments

  • Comments are open and unmoderated, and do not necessarily reflect the views of Little Green Footballs.
  • Obscene, abusive, silly, or annoying remarks may be deleted, but the fact that particular comments remain on the site in no way constitutes an endorsement of their views by Little Green Footballs.
  • Posts that contain phone numbers, street addresses, email addresses or other personal information will also be deleted, as will posts that consist only of a variation on the word, "First!"
  • Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal.
  • Disagreement and debate are welcome, but insults and abuse are not, and may cause your account to be blocked.
  • REMEMBER: posting comments at LGF is a privilege, not a right. Abuse that privilege, and your account will be blocked.

Hide comments | Jump to bottom

1 sndpaper  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:51:27pm

Of their father, The Devil, Beelzebub, Satan, The Father of Lies...

2 Liz Ard  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:51:37pm

Pigs Heads Be Upon Them

3 christheprofessor  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:52:30pm

I think we should mail clips of the beheadings to CNN, al-Reuters, BBC, over and over again... Maybe then they'll get it.

4 sndpaper  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:53:55pm

...brute beasts, made to be destroyed.

5 mama winger  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:55:11pm

Nothing puts me in the holiday spirit more than the slaughter of Crusaders. But hey - that's just me.

6 Daisy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:55:34pm

#3 christheprofessor

But I wonder if they are aware enough to even know what 'the other side' of Al quaeda is?

Timely reminder (albeit a repeat of my repeat):

What does the word "Al-Qaeda" mean ? In Arabic, "Al-Qaeda" has a different meanings, among them “Base", "Ground", "Norm", "Rule", "Fundament", "Grammar". The exact meaning is dependent on the context in which it is used. It depends on the word which follows “Al-Qaeda” in the sentence. "Qawa'ad Askaria" is an Army Base, "Qawa'ad Lugha" stands for Grammar Rules (the Bases of Grammar).

"Qa'ada" is the infinitive of the verb "to sit". "Ma-Qa'ad" is a chair. "Al-Qaeda" is the base or fundament of something. "Ana raicha Al Qaeda" is colloquial for "I'm going to the toilet". A very common and widespread use of the word “Al-Qaeda” in different Arab countries in the public language is for the toilet bowl. This name comes from the Arabic verb “Qa'ada” which mean “to sit”, pertinently, on the “Toilet Bowl”. In most Arabs homes there are two kinds of toilets: “Al-Qaeda” also called the "Hamam Franji" or foreign toilet, and "Hamam Arabi" or “Arab toilet” which is a hole in the ground. Lest we forget it, the potty used by small children is called "Ma Qa'adia" or "Little Qaeda".

7 6patrick6  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:56:26pm

#4 chris - No, they'll never get it. Not even as the Islamaniacs hack their collective heads off with a dull saber. They are just too damn PC and too damn stupid to know any better, regardless of the overwhelming evidence in front of their very eyes.

8 6patrick6  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:56:48pm

OOps, #3 chris

9 Daisy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:56:59pm

Dear lizardios,

I'm off to watch an old (black & white old) movie w/my beloved .. good night all ..

10 scorched earth 138  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:58:46pm

Yes, islamoscum, I AM A CRUSADER, instead of a broadsword, I cary an M-16A2 or an M-4A1 carbine. I ride in an M1114 uparmored humvee instead of a charger... the choice is islam and my death or FREEDOM and your eradication... I choose your demise and damn your pedophile mohamad rasool al shaitan!

11 mama winger  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 4:58:50pm

Here's another holiday video. courtesy of mostoffensivevideo.com

IT'S RAMADAN, CHARLIE BROWN !

Watch it before they cut off your head. :)

12 ebbe  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:00:29pm

Don't the producers of that film know that "jihad" has NOTHING to do with violence?

In the ROP, jihad ONLY refers to perfecting the personality..

They can't fool us dhimmis with that video

13 6patrick6  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:00:39pm

Some ignorant radio news reporterette here in the city reported a bombing in an Iraqi shopping area today. She mentioned the Ramadan "holiday shoppers" were injured or killed in the blast...

I thought "Ramadan holiday shoppers"?

Obviously I missed something. Since when did Islam "exchange gifts" for Bombadan? All Ramadan means is "no eating or drinking" during the day, gorging themselves stupid at night, and bombing people 24/7.

14 christheprofessor  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:00:55pm

#6, #9 Daisy

Either way, it's full of sh*t...

#7 6patrick6

I'm afraid you are absolutely correct. Perhaps if they see one of their own family's head hacked off, it will open their eyes. But I'm not optimistic.

15 The flying Kiwi  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:01:09pm

OT our friend the Russians blustering against Israel.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

I particularly despise the bit where Spitoon claims that military action against Iran would spell disaster for the world. Doesn't seem to bother him that no action is going to spell disaster for Israel.

16 mama winger  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:01:20pm

#12 me

Oh my goodness, don't watch that video if impolite language makes you cringe! LOL!

17 johnCV  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:01:22pm

Hey Al, jihad this ya piece a shit!

And I wanna know why are all these guys named Al. Frikkin' morons can't come up with anything else?

/strange mood

18 sailordude  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:02:21pm
A caption in the film explains that Abu Osama produced the film on the occasion of the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq.

Those AQ dudes are really banking on the Dems winning the election, huh?

19 Kaintuck  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:03:00pm

I called my ole buddy Tom in Virginia today to ask him where he planned to be for Thanksgiving. He said at home with the wife and kids, and I told him thanks, because I was a'comin' down there to slug him in the nose. He was a bit perplexed by the idea until I explained that it was part of the "expected upsurge in violence around the religious holidays".

Then I remembered that it was the wrong religion, my head cleared and I told him he'd be fine.

20 galloping granny  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:04:43pm

And by their fruits shall you know them...

21 6patrick6  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:05:58pm

#14 chris - No, not even that will open their eyes. Look at the reporter that got beheaded two years ago. His father forgives the evil scum bastards that killed his son, and directs all of the blame and his animosity towards President BUSH! They'll never get it, ever.

Let them be the willing fodder for the caliphate. I'm not gonna give up without putting up a hell of a fight, and sending as many of them packing to Hell at the same time!

22 So?  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:06:39pm

Why don't they all commit hari-kari and leave us infidels alone.

Allah awaits thee with sushi in hand.

23 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:07:52pm

So I guess that whole nuclear attack on the U.S. during Ramadan didn't quite pan out.

/oh well, I'm sure another sky is falling rumor will surface soon

24 Fried Spam  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:10:16pm

Happy Holidays!

25 christheprofessor  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:11:37pm

#21 6patrick6

I'd like to think that Michael Berg (I believe that is the name) is just a complete moron. I think many libs are misguided by MSM misinformation but not necessarily braindead. Granted, that dipshit is beyond all hope, but...

26 NoSubmission  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:14:26pm

That's a LOT of singing. Wonder what they're saying...

27 Hucbald  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:16:05pm

Come and get me.

28 6patrick6  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:16:44pm

#21 chris - I hope you are right

29 ReverendYJ  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:17:34pm

When are we going to come to our senses and destroy that friggin' meteorite they pray to?

30 mich-again  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:21:57pm

Funny, when I see the phrase "Holiday video" I think of Burl Ives as a claymation snowman singing "Silver and Gold".

31 Deuce  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:22:06pm

I wonder if they will organize tours. Six day, five country holiday jihad (optional suicide bombing). Abu Osama Tours will provide the AK 47 and ammunition allowing you to shoot at Crusaders from the comfort and safety of your luxury hotel suite, while stringers for AP or Reuters provide complimentary photos or video. Halal meals provided.

32 Rain Patriot  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:22:21pm

At what point can we just go ahead and call ourselves crusaders? They're going to keep chanting it no matter what we do... Might as well cash in on it. Comes with a cool flag and everything.

33 jrdroll  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:22:25pm

Mark Steyn : Islamic ripoff:
Ahmadinejad urges Iranian baby boom to challenge west

Robert Tait in Tehran
Monday October 23, 2006
Guardian Unlimited

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

34 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:22:41pm

Some of us are ready...

[Link: images.search.yahoo.com...]

Warning: Not Islamist Friendly Nor Rated G

35 Kaintuck  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:22:56pm

#29 Rev

When are we going to come to our senses and destroy that friggin' meteorite they pray to?

Are you saying that gasp they're engaged in idolatry?

I thought that was agin' their religgin.

36 Elric66  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:22:59pm

OT

"Paris Syndrome" leaves tourists in shock

Mon Oct 23, 12:53 AM ET

PARIS (Reuters) - Around a dozen Japanese tourists a year need psychological treatment after visiting Paris as the reality of unfriendly locals and scruffy streets clashes with their expectations, a newspaper reported on Sunday.


"A third of patients get better immediately, a third suffer relapses and the rest have psychoses," Yousef Mahmoudia, a psychologist at the Hotel-Dieu hospital, next to Notre Dame cathedral, told the newspaper Journal du Dimanche.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

37 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:23:46pm
#29 ReverendYJ

When are we going to come to our senses and destroy that friggin' meteorite they pray to?

Why destroy it when we could easily confiscate it. The black three-piece meteorite, is a stationary target which their "religion" prohibits them from moving. It's located in an open air mosque and it's not far from the water. Any such operation is well within our military/paramilitary capabilities. I don't think a safe 45 minute air corridor over Saudi soil is too much to ask for.

/hang it in the Oval Office, let 'em pray to that five times a day

38 rickl  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:28:19pm

#11 mama winger

That was hilarious!

And no, I wasn't offended, even though I was a huge Peanuts fan back in my yout'. :)

39 Beagle  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:28:31pm

Notice the wording of 9.38:

go forth in the cause of Allah


That means violent jihad. So if you read the Qur'an remember "go forth in the cause of Allah" (among other expressions) means killing. The Qur'an is actually much more violent than the obviously violent passages.

40 shibumi  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:29:57pm

Hmmm...yesterday Bridges TV told Muslims to vote for Democrats.

Today, misc. Islamic jihadists threaten to slaughter "the crusaders". Islamic threats of that sort directly translate into votes for the Republican party. You know, the anti-jihad party.

They should coordinate their messages better.

Also... the Crusaders of yore were not polytheists.

If CNN can show snipers killing Americans, it can show behadings as well.

41 Live4Truth  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:30:08pm
“O ye who believe! What is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter”


Sound to me like a call for followers to go jump off a cliff: "Stop clinging to the earth, and jump into the hereafter!"

Don't they get sick of hearing this junk? Don't they eventually get the point that they want to tell these fuminating blowhards "will you give it a break, Omar! The 'infidels' aren't attacking us! They just want to be left alone! It is US who is constantly attacking THEM! If we were to stop attacking them, and just spent our days figuring out how to make our own cultures better places to live, then they'd leave us alone, AND we'd have a better place to live! And in peace! So, go get a real job, Omar, and stop telling us what you think Allah wants. You obviously haven't the foggiest idea."

42 Deuce  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:30:19pm

Why destroy it? Make duplicate meteorites out of obsidian and plant them at surruptitiously at sites in the Muslim world. Confuse the hell out of them.

43 rickl  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:31:07pm
#37 Killian Bundy

/hang it in the Oval Office, let 'em pray to that five times a day


Better yet, drop it in the Marianas Trench. Let 'em fish for it.

44 Bobblehead  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:31:54pm

#34 Amalie

Beautiful and deadly. Quite a winning combination.

45 mich-again  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:32:06pm

33 jrdroll

Ahmadinejad wants an Iranian baby boom? Why, Iran can't figure out how to care for kids they already have. link

Clue: Whenever Ahmadinejad opens his mouth, he's trying to drown out the tidal wave of bad press from the shithole gulag he calls home. (and especially when he yaps about mistreatment of Arabs by Israelis.)

46 easy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:36:12pm

Waaay OT

Romo replaced Bledsole. First play...interception.

Back-up QB's are the most popular guys in town.

47 LadyK  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:36:53pm

OT

I have a strict attendance policy in my classroom: you get a certain amount of unexcused absences, and then you fail. One kid was right on the limit. Today the student didn't show up, and then informed me that today was an "excused absence" because it was a Muslim holy day. Guess what will happen if I try to fail him.

I have no problem with my students observing their religion. But that's what the personal days are for. If he were so serious about his faith, why didn't he budget for missing today?

48 rorschach  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:37:13pm
...pursue martyrdom in order to kill the Crusaders and the Zionists.


Only problem...they're not that good at killing those "eve-il" crusaders. They are compelled to kill, though. So, they kill their own.

Now who is the great satan?

49 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:37:31pm
50 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:39:21pm

30 mich-again

OMG, that was the first Christmas special I remember! I was 3, and I bawled when I though the Abom. Snowman died.

51 ted  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:40:33pm

OT: Fabulous, brilliant must see Penn & Teller must see video on the conspiracy theorists:

Warning for the kiddies and work, some strong language ,but otherwise ok;

52 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:43:50pm

Ploome

I don't know it could be just me, but I don't feel the need to "understand" someone who enjoys cutting off other people's head for whatever their "stated" reason.

It is barbaric and horrific and tells me all I need to know. They can blather on about their "religion" being "the religion of peace" but to me it is nothing more than an attempt to hide their original intent.

53 westoner  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:44:56pm

Nothing says "Happy Ramadan" like dead Kafirs.

The Profit Big Mo himself (piggy poo be upon him) would be mighty proud.

54 afdad  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:46:40pm

#34 Amalie

I like your taste in swords! The rest isn't all that bad either! :)

55 Clemente  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:48:10pm

#11 mama winger -

Now that's funny...raisin' mah frosty-cold OE8 fo'ty in a toast to tha', ma'am!

56 Nastification Agenda  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:48:10pm

Restraining Order sought against wannabe "First Muslim in Congress." "Islam is peace" GWB:

[Link: www.startribune.com...]

...Alexander, 34, is asking Hennepin County to issue a restraining order against Ellison in a case that had been set for a hearing Monday but is now postponed until Nov. 20.

The conflict dates back to 2005. Alexander recently wrote a lengthy account of the connections between her and Ellison in the Wright County Republican and detailed them in a 90-minute interview with the Star Tribune on Saturday.

Alexander alleges that Ellison told her at the May 2005 DFL city convention that she would not be getting a job at Environmental Justice Advocates of Minnesota, a group with which he was affiliated. She says he called her a name and said, "You don't have the job. I can't control you."

Alexander said in her request for a restraining order that the following week he came to her Minneapolis home, at 1403 NE. Washington St., grabbed her and verbally abused her, then threatened her. Her request alleges that he also broke the screen door on his way out.

She said she called 911 and when police arrived she had a torn, bleeding cuticle. There is no police report, only a record of the 911 call.

Ellison says he has never been to her house and never assaulted her, although he knew Alexander was upset about not getting the job.
---

But Shariah says: the bitch needs 4 adult male witnesses to back up her story. I seem to recall the Muslimated H Rap Brown shot a cop to death in front of witnesses, and denied doing it.

57 Odinist  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:48:58pm

#51 ted

Thank you for the link- I haven't seen the full version yet!

Off to watch it now!

-Odinist

58 JnT  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:50:36pm

Happy Ramadan to all
And to all a good knife

59 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:54:31pm

44 Bobblehead

Have you ever noticed that these people are the deepest kind of coward?

They hide in some "safe" house and shoot their snuff video. So brave of them.

Cowards. Sleezy.. little ... cowards..

60 DistantThunder  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:56:57pm

And Peace on Earth Good will to Men - the Other (Superior) Religion.

61 countrygurl  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:58:08pm

Please see the petition sponsored by Bridgett Garbriel, founder of American Congress for Truth. Link provided below. Petition asks Congress to bar the establishment of madrassas in America. The site tells the reader why madrassas are bad, in case some cave dweller some where needs to be educated about the topic.

[Link: cedarmailer.com...]

Like the sound of Amerabia? No? then sign the petition.

62 mich-again  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:59:08pm

56 Nastification Agenda

Here's the first hit for Environmental Justice Advocates for Minnesota. hmmm a phone number for Keith Ellison.

63 bitsy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 5:59:20pm

Jingle bells
Al Qaeda smells
Mohammed laid an egg.

The jihad-mobile lost its wheels,
And the apostate got a-way!
HEY!

64 Boot Hill  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:00:03pm
upon request

I have a request.

could you please go F*** yourselves.

thank you.

(you'll notice I said please and thank you)

65 j-damn  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:01:05pm

"Yeah, come on, Achmed that tape was the bomb, let's 'rise up'!"
"I dunno, Mahmoud, they make you supply your own knife. Plus, I hear all that money they promise you for college, it's all loans! Plus, you never actually go to college to enroll--you just self-detonate in the dorm cafeteria!"
"That sucks, brother--let us instead to be playing the playstation and to be taking of the bong hits."

66 William  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:02:04pm

OT?

The treachery we see from Dhimmicrats today is nothing new:

The antipathy that congressional Democrats have today toward President George W. Bush is reminiscent of their distrust of President Ronald Reagan during the Cold War, a political science professor says.

"We see some of the same sentiments today, in that some Democrats see the Republican president as being a threat and the true obstacle to peace, instead of seeing our enemies as the true danger," said Paul Kengor, a political science professor at Grove City College and the author of new book, "The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism."

In his book, which came out this week, Kengor focuses on a KGB letter written at the height of the Cold War that shows that Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) offered to assist Soviet leaders in formulating a public relations strategy to counter President Reagan's foreign policy and to complicate his re-election efforts.

[Link: www.cnsnews.com...]

67 mich-again  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:05:08pm

And from Keith Ellison's website, keithellison.org, this BS statement..

We may not always agree about everything, and that's all right. We can always have a conversation that is respectful, productive and energizing.

Yeah b*tch. Even if I have to smack the shit outta you and bust up your house.

The Jesuits at U of D did a fine job with that student.

68 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:07:29pm

#34 amalie:

I like the sword, but I'll raise you a +80 Holy Defender, with special defenses and extra attacks, especially on the move.

Then again, you might prefer a Vorpal Blade.

69 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:08:04pm

What part of "Die, Infidel, die," (while holding a severed head) do people not understand?

It's as if some people think they can get a serial killer to quit if they "understand" him enough...

70 uradumone  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:08:31pm

I wish they'd quit talking and go ahead and do the deed so that we can go ahead and do ours.

71 brent  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:08:58pm

#11 Charlie Brizown

Ok, that was super-offensive, but I laughed myself stupid - not a long trip, to be sure.

See you in hell, you little animated playah hatuz...

72 Nastification Agenda  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:09:12pm

Meanwhile, dead Paleoliar, Edward Said, gets re-lionized, and brought back to earth.

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

[Link: www.jcpa.org...]

73 mich-again  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:09:39pm

59 Amalie

Since its SAT season, heres an analogy question that might just be on the test...

A Safe-House is to a Muslim as Mom's Basement is to a...

A) KosKid
B) Moonbat
C) 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist
D) All of the above

74 Isabella3  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:09:52pm

Murderers...they are so going to hell!
May God curse all Islamic terrorists & their pathetic, psychotic followers!

75 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:11:31pm

#66 william

WTF?

If that is correct their DAMN well better be an investigation.


Liberals are traitors.

76 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:11:38pm

68 lawhawk

Fantastic! I love it!

77 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:12:54pm

68 lawhawk

I'm spoiled, I want both. Can I have them?

78 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:14:34pm

#73 mich-again 10/23/2006 08:09PM PDT

59 Amalie

Since its SAT season, heres an analogy question that might just be on the test...

A Safe-House is to a Muslim as Mom's Basement is to a...

A) KosKid
B) Moonbat
C) 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist
D) All of the above

LOL ~

79 mich-again  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:15:28pm

I love to read news stories about how a safe-house was bombed.

In fact, I'd advise anyone to get the hell out ASAP if your host informs you that its a safe house.

80 RTLM  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:16:22pm

~OT

Here's end-of-Ramamdan gesture of submission from al Andaluz:
Spain-Morocco undersea tunnel back on the agenda

...a tunnel could be in operation by 2025, if both Madrid and Rabat showed sufficient political will.
81 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:19:07pm
The film begins with footage of horsemen under the caption: “O ye who believe! What is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter” (Koran 9:38).

I wonder, how many Muslim men watch this crap and get the Martyr Fever?

82 mich-again  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:20:06pm

80 RTLM

19 years to build a tunnel? The Palis could dig one in a few months.

83 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:20:46pm

If Allah were so powerful how come the Jihadists are having recruitment troubles?

84 mich-again  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:26:32pm

83 Amalie

I always wonder why it is the Jihad recruiters never seem to want to follow their own advice. Nope. They're always hiding out in their safe-caves telling others to go splodeydope for them.

85 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:28:25pm

Isn't it time to have a national referendum welcoming Al-Queda to take over Haavard and CNN? Hell, I'm rooting for it. We should all encourage it. I think CNN should put their lives in the headchopper hands and be done with us religious fanatical Christian types.

86 elandadem  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:30:01pm

The Crusader is a British tank.
Although it is the nice name for a Football Team.

87 Adrenalyn  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:30:07pm

well, why don't we have a violent celebration at Thanksgiving then

I'd like to give a nuke to a few moo slum cities, via air mail, coutesy of the US Navy, or the Air Force. Hell, let both of them in on the "giving".

We have thousands just sitting around NOT being a deterrent so why not open a can up in celebration.


Didn't General Patton have any sons ?
Don't we have anyone in the military with the stones to advise the POTUS of how we can win this war on terror. With bombs. Lots of little ones or just a few really big ones.

88 Percopius  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:31:07pm

#64 B-hill

Huh? Are saying Charles should go fuck himself? If your going to quote someone puts some quotes around it or atribute it to someone. I'm not sure of what your trying to say.

89 Bobblehead  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:34:34pm

These monsters who call the "faithful" to jihad remind me of the "do as I say not as I do" liberals. Why don't Al-Zawahiri, Bin laden and the rest of them get out there and sacrifice themselves for their twisted religion? Cowardly bastards..every single one of them.

90 easy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:35:35pm
The video then shows a scene in which a man is beheaded. This is followed by another beheading, even more grisly, in which the severed head is waved in the air. (Both scenes, and another graphic scene, have been omitted from the version of the film posted here, but are available upon request).

Beheading as a punctuation mark !

Beheading, always with the beheading.

And they think their god demands it.

91 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:35:38pm

Pig's head left at mosque site (France).

According to the article, "France has Europe's largest Muslim community, numbering about five million, and mosques are occasionally vandalised."

There is a notable absence of car bombings, beheadings, and mass murders directed Muslims though, which is more than can be said for those whom the ummah regards as enemies.

92 gymnast  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:37:09pm

#87, Adrenalyn. Patton had at least one son that saw service in Viet Nam.

93 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:37:35pm

#84 mich-again 10/23/2006 08:26PM PDT

83 Amalie

I always wonder why it is the Jihad recruiters never seem to want to follow their own advice. Nope. They're always hiding out in their safe-caves telling others to go splodeydope for them.

I've noticed this too. And their recruitment film sucks.

94 Mark1957  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:38:12pm

The Islamo-nuts just don't get it:

While they imagine a world with their precious Caliphate, many in the West are now getting increasingly comfortable imagining a world without Islam.

Just close your eyes and let yourself go...

Terrorism drops to almost zero, no whining, no seething, no "grievances," no Koran-in-the-Toilet stories, no burning cars in Paris, and the Israelis, at long last, turn the Middle East into a verdant, prosperous, agricultural paradise...

God, fantasizing about this is almost better than sex...

95 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:38:56pm
#86 elandadem

The Crusader is a British tank.
Although it is the nice name for a Football Team.

It was also the next generation self-propelled 155-mm howitzer

/until it got the axe

96 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:40:15pm

I volunteer to pay for one 1st class ticket to any violent member of Al-Queda to move into Ted Turner's neighborhood or near his home(s) up in Montana.

The only provision for the 1st class ticket is that Mr. Al-Queda has to "live" his religion to its purest.

Any volunteers out there Osama?

97 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:40:15pm

Bollywood Justice For Johny Jihadi

[Link: www.grapheine.com...]

98 Jihad Worrier  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:41:48pm

Slightly OT...

If they ever have a competition for stupidest man on the Internet, this guy has a chance:

The Caliphate and The New Republican Scare Tactic

Here's a pearl:

Non-Muslims have an honorable status in the Caliphate. They are referred to as dhimmi (people of contract), which means they are equal citizens with the Muslims and enjoy the full rights of citizenship. Unlike in Britain they are not given derogatory names like "ethnic minorities" or "immigrants", that implies they are 2nd class citizens and not really welcome. The rights of non-Muslims are enshrined in statutory Islamic Law (shariah) and cannot be reversed by legal precedent or the whims of any government. The Prophet Muhammad (saw) said: "Whoever harms a dhimmi has harmed me." Of course this is a 'Pro-Caliphate site.

If you visit the site check out the book advertising a book on Islam at the top of the page. It features this pitch:

Mecca and the Hajj: Lessons from the Islamic School of Hard Knocks

Tired of trying to Understand Islam by reading dry and scholarly tomes? This book takes you to the sacred heart of Islam, making certain you have fun along the way too.

Yee Ha!

99 Nastification Agenda  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:42:38pm

Sharia-Watch: Greek law allows Muftis to control family law. Eleven year old girl marries 22 year old man. German Court nullifies marriage. (auto translated French)

[Link: trans.voila.fr...]

100 Crusader Rabbit  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:42:42pm
Islamist Holiday Video Calls for Jihad and Slaughter of “Crusaders.”

Hard not to take that personal.

101 W-lover  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:43:16pm

{Bubb~alie~Wife}

My version was better...

What Really Happened to Rayra

102 aaron's rantblog  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:44:42pm

Arabic is read from right to left, so Eid is actually Die.

103 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:46:26pm

WWEBD?

/what would Ernest Borgnine do?

104 W-lover  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:47:40pm
Arabic is read from right to left, so Eid is actually Die.

Kinda like how "Die Bart, Die" is German for "The Bart, The"...?

105 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:47:50pm

101 W-Lover

{Dub-Lub!}

Oh Hahaha Hahahahaha! Still laughing.

/did you notice the interior design of that office.. the birdcage stand?


LOL

106 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:49:18pm

Who is for helping me cut a check to send some jihadis first class academia with citizenship for scholarship to Columbia U., California and Wisconsin?

Summa Cum Jihadi!

107 Bobblehead  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:49:32pm

#97 Amalie

First rate script and production values as usual.

I do wish Bombay TV would give us some new clips to work with though. LGF Studio and its related production companies needs some fresh material.

108 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:49:58pm

Whatever you do.. don't call Hillary.. "ugly"

ALBANY, N.Y. - Sen. Hillary Clinton's Republican challenger on Monday flatly denied telling a reporter that Clinton was unattractive when she was younger and suggesting she had had "millions of dollars" of "work."

[Link: msnbc.msn.com...]

109 rcris5  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:50:16pm

Indeed, die they will.

110 easy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:51:45pm

Adrenalyn

Didn't General Patton have any sons ?


Yes he did, I met him once. Lot of pain in his eyes.

Lots of little ones or just a few really big ones

.
You would be hard pressed to find anyone to fly those missions. They obey legal orders.

I'm being nice.

111 W-lover  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:52:30pm

One more for the road...

Dubs Presents

Nodrog in Love

112 gymnast  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:53:48pm

Major General George Smith Patton IV died June 27, 2004. As a Colonel in Vietnam he commanded the Black Horse Regiment, Won two DSCs (one step below the Blue Ribbon) and a purple heart. He was promoted to Major General in 1975 and commanded the 2nd Armored Calvary Division as had his father. He was every bit the the warrior his father was. See [Link: www.arlingtoncemetary.net...]

113 Jaxter  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:55:46pm

#97 Amalie

Shoooes! Loved it!

114 Catttt  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:59:17pm

Can't terrorists make videos without the mind-numbing male chorus soundtrack? They always sound like an old Soviet propaganda bits crossed with Gregorian chants.

115 gymnast  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 6:59:50pm

Well that address in #112 didn't work but #110, easy's link is to the site that I was trying to link to. It should not be missed.

116 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:00:47pm

Harold Ford Jr. on cover of Newsweek

Their not even trying to hide it anymore.

/media bias, what media bias?

117 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:02:27pm

They're

/preview mocks me

118 easy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:04:40pm

#103 Killian Bundy

While I'm doing bio's, Ernest Borgnine:

Borgnine enlisted in the Navy in 1935 serving on destroyers and submarine
chasers. He served his commitment until 1941, but after just three months of
being a civilian again, Pearl Harbor was hit by the Japanese and Borgnine
returned to active duty. Borgnine went to sea with the Navy -- helping to
guard the U.S. Atlantic Coastline during the height of World War II. He rose
to the rank of gunner's mate 1st Class. He left the Navy after the war in
1945, but he says he never forgot what he learned.
"Of all of my successes in life, including all that I've earned in acting,
being in the Navy is my greatest achievement," Borgnine told an audience at
the U.S. Navy Memorial in Washington, D.C. on Sunday, Oct. 17.
"The camaraderie and the work ethic is something that I always remembered
... and it's what got me through things the rest of my life."


Never met him though.

119 howyadoin  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:08:00pm

"The film begins with footage of horsemen under the caption: “O ye who believe! What is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter” (Koran 9:38)."

I am always struck at how the words of Truth are always so twisted. Those who follow Christ understand that we are not to "store up treasures here on Earth" nor are we to devote ourselves to this World. We are to live in it as "Salt" unto it. We are not to become so caught up in it that we loose sight of heaven.

Now, here's what these Islamists say they are supposed to do too deny "clinging heavily to the earth":

"Al-Zawahiri says: “I urge you, in [the name of] the duty of jihad, which is incumbent upon every Muslim, to hurry and pursue martyrdom in order to kill the Crusaders and the Zionists.” An armed individual calls: “[Oh] defenders of the faith, hurry and prepare [for jihad], this is no time for [internal] disagreement.” "

Now, spank me if I'm wrong, but, THAT'S not being "salt" to the world. (eh...spank me anyway!)

120 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:08:14pm

Al-Zawahiri says: “I urge you, in [the name of] the duty of jihad, which is incumbent upon every Muslim, to hurry and pursue martyrdom in order to kill the Crusaders and the Zionists.”


If that's what they want, let's nuke them.

It will come to that, if they mean what they say here.

121 Promethea  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:09:36pm

#6 Daisy . . .

This name comes from the Arabic verb “Qa'ada” which mean “to sit”, pertinently, on the “Toilet Bowl”.

This is great information!

From now on, everytime any of us writes "Al Qaeda" we should add in parentheses "The Toilet."

Hey "Osama." If you're not already dead, you're in "The Toilet."

122 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:11:25pm

T-Shirts not quite Da Bomb
[Link: cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com...]
[Link: www.terrortshirt.com...]

/Anything for a Yankee $.

123 x-ray  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:14:16pm

If the Jihadi mail ever does deliver their Holiday greeting I think this is the Happy Holidays greeting we should send back. The Peacekeeper LGM it has a nice holiday ring to it. Though since it is better to give than receive lets send our greeting first.

124 solomonpanting  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:15:24pm

Clothes Aren't the Issue

Last October, I listened to an online audio sermon by an American Muslim preacher, Sheik Yusuf Estes, who was scheduled to speak at West Virginia University as a guest of the Muslim Student Association. He soon moved to the subject of disobedient wives, and his recommendations mirrored the literal reading of 4:34. First, "tell them." Second, "leave the bed." Finally: "Roll up a newspaper and give her a crack. Or take a yardstick, something like this, and you can hit."

When I telephoned Estes later to ask about the sermon, he said that he had been trying to limit how and when men could hit their wives. He realized that he had to revisit the issue, he told me, when some Canadian Muslim men asked him if they could use the Sunday newspaper to give their wives "a crack."

Yet even those doing the 4:34 dance seem to realize that there's a problem. When I went back to listen to the audio clip later, the offensive language had been removed. And when I asked Estes if he had ever rolled up a newspaper to give his own wife a crack, he responded without hesitation.

"I'm married to a woman from Texas," he said. "Do you know what she would do to me?"

125 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:17:18pm

OT: British MoD bans TV news access to warzones

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

126 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:21:11pm
127 Harry Catbox  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:24:24pm

You will know they are Christians by their love...

128 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:26:47pm

#118 easy

Wow, that's a great story. I've always liked Borgnine (even as Mermaid Man on Sponge Bob Square Pants).

I'm glad that he was able to receive the honors from the Navy, since he's so proud of his time serving the country. Very nice.

129 lowandslow  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:29:03pm

Way OT

I was listening to Claptons From the Cradle and got to Motherless Child and was curious if I could find an early recording of Motherless Child Blues on the internet(which I did by Geechie Wiley & Elvie Thomas from 1931) but came across the original Mother's Children Have A Hard Time by Blind Willie Johnson (which Clapton also remade as Motherless Children on 461 Ocean Boulevard).
Anyway here it is if anyone is interested. My anti-Ramadan gift. I can't believe this is from 1927.
Mother's Children Have A Hard Time

130 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:30:03pm

#112

Then-Colonel Patton used a VietCong skull as a paperweight while he was in Vietnam.

I would probably not do that myself, but he had seen more of the VC's terrorism and brutality than I had.

Everyone here has seen the famous photo of SVN General Loan shooting a captured VC in the head during the Tet offensive in 1968. What is seldom mentioned is that this terrorist had just been caught in the act of butchering one of Loan's men and the man's whole family.
Loan was the National Police Field Force commander and was in the area to observe operations. Informed of the facts, he decided to administer some street justice. The photographer who recorded the scene, Eddie Adams, often said that he regretted taking the picture and felt that its endless publication out of context unfairly maligned Loan.
Eddie Adams died last year at the age of 71.
General Loan died in Virginia in 1998.

The dead terrorist was one Nguyen Van Lem, a VC operative who used the nom de guerre Bay Lop.

131 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:31:35pm

#126 goodbye_natalie

Oh maaannn what a howl! You GOTTA show that one to BabbaZee! It's a masterpiece!

NAMBLA subscription?!? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

132 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:33:14pm

107 Bobblehead 10/23/2006 08:49PM PDT


#97 Amalie

First rate script and production values as usual.

I do wish Bombay TV would give us some new clips to work with though. LGF Studio and its related production companies needs some fresh material.

It would be cool if everyone submitted the same clip with their own subtitles.. I would love to see how many different versions people come up with.

133 honest scrutiny  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:33:18pm

#98 Jihad Worrier
quoting timothy v. gatto:
... They are referred to as dhimmi (people of contract), which means they are equal citizens with the Muslims and enjoy the full rights of citizenship.

timothy gatto is so wrong. might i say, maroon?

134 The Duke  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:34:36pm

Hi Lizards ,

It's time to let the advertisers know that their products are being touted along with that Islamofacist supporting snuff video from CNN ...

If you are felling as pissed as I am about it you can contact the following companies and tell them how woderful they are , and how impressed you are about their companies and products being sewn together with CNN jihadist propaganda media ...

Here they are and remember these vompanies are all reachable with website email script pages...


Lexmark
Chase Manhattan Bank
Verizon
Essential 2

I've writeen a couple of them already ...I think ig they pull the plug on CNN a lot will have been acomplished in reducing CNN ad money ...in fact It woud be great if any company who advertises on CNN would be contacted and told what their advertising dollars are paying for .

135 ps2  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:34:43pm

I've seen "RISE UP" spray painted (stencil) on the sidewalks and walls in the city of Newark.

136 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:34:56pm

111 W-Lover

LOL ~

I loved it~

Thanks...

:D

137 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:37:13pm

Troll resurfaced on the CNN thread.

/in case anyone wants a shot

138 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:37:49pm

126 goodbye natalie

Standing Ovation!

That was fantastic...

139 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:38:27pm

#129 lowandslow

Wow, recorded in Dallas! I wonder if this was down in Deep Ellum? At the time, it was the blues area in Dallas.

140 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:38:40pm

Goodbye Natalie @ 126

And an INSTANT CLASSIC!

You got the talent, man..

:D

141 Promethea  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:39:39pm

#94 Mark 1957 . . .

While they imagine a world with their precious Caliphate, many in the West are now getting increasingly comfortable imagining a world without Islam.

I can definitely imagine this world. I can imagine that all those Christian areas that were forcibly turned to Islam can return to Christianity (the new, improved gentler version--not the Inquisition version).

I wish that Christian missionaries would actively try to turn Muslims to Christianity. Islam is just a pale, inane, nonsensical shadow of Judaism and Christianity. The reason I vote for Christian missionizing is that Judaism is not really a missionizing religion. However, it would be wonderful if all those former Jews returned to their original religion. People in Arab lands--you know deep in your hearts that Islam was forced on you.

142 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:40:57pm

#134 The Duke 10/23/2006 09:34PM PDT

Hi Lizards ,

It's time to let the advertisers know that their products are being touted along with that Islamofacist supporting snuff video from CNN ...

If you are felling as pissed as I am about it you can contact the following companies and tell them how woderful they are , and how impressed you are about their companies and products being sewn together with CNN jihadist propaganda media ...

Here they are and remember these vompanies are all reachable with website email script pages...


Lexmark
Chase Manhattan Bank
Verizon
Essential 2

Hi!

Thank you for this info and you are right. Our little emails can make a difference to a sponsor..

How will they know if we don't take the time to tell them?

143 Bill Amos  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:42:01pm

OT;Why the Hell is Fox doing this right before an election ?

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Simpsons' Halloween 'Horror' Could Hit GOP
By BILL REDEKER

Oct. 23, 2006 — It happens every year about now. "The Simpsons," that animated money-making satire on Fox TV, airs its "Treehouse of Horror" episode to coincide with Halloween — or at least as close to the holiday as possible, given the uncertainties of the World Series.

But this year the show is scheduled to air the first week in November, two days before the midterm congressional election, and it has caused more of a stir than usual.

A synopsis helps explain why.

The segment, titled "The Day the Earth Was Stupid," is a takeoff on Orson Welles' infamous 1938 radio broadcast, "The War of The Worlds."

Dig out your history books.

Welles' broadcast caused widespread panic back then, despite repeated assurances that it was fiction.

Back to the future.

In the Simpson's version, the confusion the radio broadcast created sets the stage for an invasion by Kang and Kodos, the lime-green aliens who have appeared in every Halloween, sorry — "Treehouse Horror" special. The parallels to the U.S. occupation of Iraq are not subtle.

After the aliens destroy Springfield, home to the Simpson clan, they talk about the invasion and the occupation that will follow.

"Well, the Earthlings continue to resent our presence," Kang says. "You said we'd be greeted as liberators!"

"Don't worry," says Kodos. "We still have the people's hearts and minds." In the show's characteristic over-the-top sarcasm, Kodos then holds up a brain and heart.

"I don't know," says Kang. "I'm starting to think 'Operation Enduring Occupation' was a bad idea."

Kodos disagrees. "We had to invade. They were working on weapons of mass disintegration."

As the two survey the smoking ruins of their town, Kang deadpans the last line of the segment. "This sure is a lot like Iraq will be."

The show's executive producer, Al Jean, has said he's not sure whether that last line will be broadcast. Some of the writers apparently want it cut.

"The debate is whether people already get it, and we're being too obvious," he told Radaronline, insisting there was no pressure from Fox. "They didn't have any objection to this, " he said.
The possibility of Fox objecting is not surprising, given the politics favored by Rupert Murdoch, Fox's corporate chairman. He's conservative, even though he has been described lately as "drifting left."

And, of course, there's the timing. The episode comes on the eve of the congressional elections, and it's been suggested that the show's liberal writers might be piling it on, or at least trying to influence some voters.

Jean finds that laughable.

"I'd like to take credit for being adventuresome, but I think we're expressing a viewpoint 69 percent of the country agrees with," he says. He also points out that Simpson episodes are written and produced a year in advance.

If nothing else, the publicity surrounding the episode is bound to ensure lots of viewers. And that, after all, is the bottom line in broadcasting. Ratings. Advertising. Money. It's something Rupert Murdoch understands very well.

144 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:44:39pm

#125 Jewels

Duly fwd'ed to W -- and Chas.

145 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:44:44pm

It's time to kick the troll over on the CNN thread.

146 pink freud  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:52:00pm

OT, but not really

great big brass ones ...

[Link: www.nandotimes.com...]

147 x-ray  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:55:19pm

#135 ps2

I've seen "RISE UP" spray painted (stencil) on the sidewalks and walls in the city of Newark.

Wouldn't it be funny if someone were to spray paint the silhouette of that mud flap chick right next to that:)

148 RTLM  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:57:29pm

#135 ps2

I've seen "RISE UP" spray painted (stencil) on the sidewalks and walls in the city of Newark.

That's not good.

The enemy keeps breeding a bearing while the US maintains a average birthrate of around 2 births per couple.
Europe is basically without reproduction, at 1 birth per couple. Russia (surprise) is worse. Mark Steyn has a new book and he's telling us it's the end of our world.
He says it's all about people power.

Go make some babies people!

149 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:59:00pm

#146 pink freud

Man, do I miss the Nando Times. I read it every day for several years. A lot of news, but not a lot of slant. I was pretty bummed when they announced they were shutting down.

150 yehoshua  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 7:59:50pm

Have you seen the face of evil?
Have you looked at Condoleeza Rice?

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

151 Carolyn  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:00:04pm

Just heard on Headline News that a US soldier in Iraq has been grabbed by these bastards.

152 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:08:36pm
#148 RTLM

That's not good.

Muslims are like 2% of the U.S. population. It'll take them centuries to breed themselves into the majority.

/Spanish will be the official language long before Sharia is the law of the land

153 pink freud  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:09:47pm

149 ward:

yes, but the remaining photo gallery is an excellent compilation ...the historical perspective is especially poignant at times

154 dead sea squirrel  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:11:09pm

You know why this video wasn't released until the end of Ramadan, don't you? Because it's a sin for a Muslim to masturbate during the fast.

155 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:12:15pm

If only the Fwench Gendarmes had men like this Senior Citizen
Man, 68, teaches teen robbers a lesson[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

OMAHA, Neb. - Two robbers who thought they had an easy mark in a 68-year-old Omaha man were surprised on Sunday. Police said Earnest Coleman was sitting in his car outside an Omaha grocery store when a young man jumped into the passenger seat with a gun and demanded Coleman's money.

Coleman responded by grabbing the robber and his gun, and exchanging blows. A second robber came to Coleman's window and hit the elderly man, police said.

Undeterred, Coleman pulled that man into the car and began to hit him, too. The two robbers then ran away — without Coleman's money and without the gun.

Police are reviewing surveillance footage from security cameras, a spokesman said.

The robbers appeared to be [yutes] teenagers, Coleman said.

156 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:16:10pm
The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come. When in a state of security he does not forget the possibility of ruin. When all is orderly, he does not forget that disorder may come. Thus his person is not endangered, and his States and all their clans are preserved.


Confucius

157 reader  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:19:30pm

Jihad Worrior #98,

He gets the center square in the ring of stupidity.

158 RTLM  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:19:55pm

#156 cbinflux

Words to live by.

159 Nastification Agenda  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:24:41pm

And a Ramadan gift to Muslim hand-choppers and abusers of women: negotiated surrender.

[Link: www.adnkronosinternational.com...]

Taliban is Al-Qaeda and vice versa. Taliban is as guilty of the 9-11 atrocities as is al-Qaeda. Negotiating with Taliban spits on the graves of the 9-11 war dead.

160 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:28:33pm

On Topic
Anger as Muslim festival stops trial
TANYA THOMPSON
SOCIAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT (tthompson@scotsman.com)

LEADING Scottish lawyers have condemned a sheriff's decision to halt a trial yesterday after Muslim witnesses refused to give evidence because they were celebrating the end of Ramadan.

Jamie Weir, 17, of Motherwell, is accused of assaulting Nasir Ahmed by hitting him with a glass bottle in an attack last April. But as the hearing was due to start at Hamilton Sheriff Court, it was revealed that witnesses had refused to turn up.

The fiscal depute, Angus Crawford, said the witnesses, all Muslims, were unwilling to attend court during the festival of Eid. He asked for an adjournment until the festival was over. Sheriff Daniel Scullion adjourned the trial until 17 November.

[Link: news.scotsman.com...]

161 reader  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:29:45pm

Killian Bundy #152,

Glenn Beck tonight said that England soon would be 20% Muslim. I'm thinking, how did it jump from 3 million, or 5%, to almost having 12 million Muslims? That has to be at least a generation away, if not at least two (50 years). Maybe he's confusing England with France or Belgium.

Here in the U.S., I know we're at 1%, at probably a little under 3 million, even though it is growing rapidly, thanks to immigration, illegal and legal.

162 Catttt  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:33:32pm

155 cbinflux

Cool. You just never know.

Look at this woman, and then tell me whether you'd guess that when she was in her 80, she fought off two thugs, who'd broken into the house where she was staying. One fled, and the other died of blunt force trauma to his head.

Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living! - Mother Jones (Labor Organizer and fiesty tough as an old boot Irishwoman)

163 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:35:20pm

OT
Scots Muslim charged for alleged 'terror' websites

A YOUNG Muslim man charged with terrorism offences was allegedly using websites he set up to demonstrate how to make and use firearms and explosives, court papers revealed yesterday.

Mohammed Atif Siddique, 20, who was arrested in an anti-terrorism dawn raid on 13 April at his family's home in Alva, Clackmannanshire, is charged with using websites to distribute publications that could encourage acts of terrorism, as well as other terrorism-related offences.

Siddique, who claimed he was a member of al-Qaeda and threatened to carry out a suicide attack, was excused his first public appearance at a pre-trial hearing at the High Court in Glasgow yesterday.

[Link: news.scotsman.com...]

164 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:37:45pm
#159 Nastification Agenda

And a Ramadan gift to Muslim hand-choppers and abusers of women: negotiated surrender.

Looks to me like they're dealing to keep them in Pakistan, pulling back from the border in ezchange for promises that the Taliban will quit attacking into Afghanistan.

Probably won't work, but hey.

/in the end we have to deal with them on some level or kill them all and we can't very well kill them all

165 RTLM  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:37:46pm

152 Killian Bundy

Populations are there for Muslims. They just need mobility.
We need fortified borders.

And baby-making is fun...

166 x-ray  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:39:01pm

169

But Osama Saeed, Scottish spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain, said: "This is like asking a Catholic to come in on Christmas Day."


No this is like asking a Catholic to come in the month of December. Which they do and witnesses show up

The more I hear the islamo excuse machine the more I think they’ve all gone to Ted Kennedy School of obfuscating the issue. Drunken and insane but utterly effective on moonbats.

167 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:40:02pm

#159 NA
There should be no Taliban in Afghanistan, no Nazis in the U.S. or Europe...

Kill them all until they UNCONDITIONALLY SURRENDER AND DISBAND and then BAN the organizations that Lost The War

168 carridine  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:41:06pm

#162 Cattt: Okay, this is part of my 'fight like hell for the living!'

Solomonia nailed it when he talked about the fauxtographers' "...delusions, their insularity, their siege mentality, their guild consciousness, their omerta...and their hatred for blogs (and bloggers!) and any of their fellows who dare step out of line

169 x-ray  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:41:13pm

PIMF #166 x-ray should refer to #160 cbinflux

170 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:43:47pm

#161 Reader

...thanks to immigration, illegal and legal.

AND their birthrates. 7:0.7 means that they control the votes soon enough.

171 carridine  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:44:45pm

#162 cattt: "...died of wounds to the head..."

GET ON! Serves him right! Thieving thug!

172 republic  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:45:17pm

Hey, I thought that CAIR has been saying that islam is a religion of peace?

This must just simply be a few of the 100's of millions around the world who practice islam, and call for death to anyone who isn't.

/sarc

It's interesting, that CAIR claims that there are only a few who are "extremists, like in all religions", when these "extremists" number near a billion.

islam is the religion of pieces, truly evil in every way!

/SPIT

DONT TREAD ON ME!

173 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:45:55pm

#166 x-ray

So, if this precedent prevails, they'll be shutting down the courts for at least two month each year (Ramadan - EID)

174 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:46:46pm

I sent this as a letter to my mother tonight. She'sa reasonable dem, but a bit blinded:

something that's not often addressed in our elections is that due to ideology, the democrats are demographically losing out for about the last 12 years. but then if you don't breed replacements, this sort of thing is going to happen. On some instinctual level, I think the Democrats realize this, but haven't any idea what to do about it.

Not a criticism, merely an observation.


And I've got many other reasons for not voting for the National Democratic party, which handed the keys to the inmates in the insane Asylum. We've got an unworthy pack of loons and weasels for leadership, and Advisors.

'Screaming' Howard Dean: Sorry, loss me after his 2004 'YEEEAAARRRGH' speech. I prefer my politicos a bit more stolid.

Ted 'The Hutt' Kennedy will be forever elected in MA, kinda like Senator Jesse Helms back in the day. He's good at bloviating, but really not much else. That and there was that little exchange of letters with the KGB back during the Reagan Administration that will raise eyebrows.

Nancy Pelosi seems to be stuck somewhere in the sixties, which might be okay for California, but would be sheer death for the national level. Better to keep her under observation. Party whip or not, she's said some pretty weird things recently that will spook voters

John 'I served in Vietnam' Kerry has been exposed as an artifical construct so synthetic on contrived that many people recoiled in horror at first sight when he stepped on stage with his forced 'reporting for duty speech'. That and other Vietnam Vets consider him a toad for his little exposition back in the 70's. He's a done deal. Stick a fork in him.

Al Gore: Y'know, back when Al was just the Veep and left office, he was okay, but as he's aged he's become strange. While wanting to protect the environment is respectable and nothing to be ashamed of, his use of junk science and fire and brimstone rhetoric has turn off a lot of people except the Gaia Crowd. He's now like the nutter uncle you have to keep an eye on to make sure he doesn't hurt himself. Kinda nice to be around, but when he starts muttering, he becomes disturbing.

Hillary Clinton: Reminds me a bit to much of Kerry because of the naked ambition I've seen in her eyes, and her Gold Plated comment, "We know what is best for you." set off warning alarms. With respect to Sen Clinton: No, she doesn't and I'll manage my own life without her sticking her nose in thank you very much.

And lastly, a major reason I cannot pull the lever for the Dems on the national level just right now: James Earl Carter. As much as I can respect working for peace, JC has become churlish and mean-spirited over the last decade with some of the gags he's pulled. His open support of domestic enemies (Fatah, Hamas, Hugo Chavez, and Castro, and Iran) has never sat well with me. Frankly, I think he needs to be like many currently retired presidents. Unobtrusive and otherwise ignorable. He want's to run a charity? Fine. but it's no longer his place to try to influence foreign policy. He had his chance. And that didn't turn out so well.

(con't)

175 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:47:11pm

The one shining star the Dems might have is in the form of Barak Obama. Bright, Personable, and well spoken. And more to the point, he speaks to the other side of the isle like an adult. But, he's got a few things that could be problems, none of which are his fault:

1. Relative lack of experience: this can always be overcome with a bit of seasoning, but I fear the DNC will push him out before he's ready and burn him out in something he's really not prepared for. and don't think it can't happen.

2. An Apostate of Islam: I know this sounds odd, but if he needs to go overseas to a ME country, were the death penalty for Aposty is mandatory...you can see where this is going

3. Tainted by Association with the listed above: You migth say this is unfair (it is), but to be frank, we've got too many frothing loons int he party and it's supporters. And hanging around people like this tends to warp the brain after a time. Barak would do himself some good to put some distance between himself and the pack of mixed nuts.

The Dems have been taking the loss of Camelot 2.0 (The Clinton Administration) transfer over to Gore in 2000 a bit too hard. We sat for nearly two months waiting for an election to go through because some people are sore losers, which severely irritated me. And so we've been subjected to unrelenting venom and mud slung at a man who happened to be Texan, perhaps a bit on the dim side in some respects for nearly the past seven years. Why. Because he was Republican and didn't do things the Dem way of doing things. Particularly on and after 9/11.

Who the hell cares at this point? He's a lame duck president. He will be gone in two years. And people are still running against him? Why exactly? He can feel free to ignore a party that has been adrift for sometime, befreft of any new ideas since the New Deal. Which I think irritates them to no end. Because it reminds them their ideals have been rejected twice in the last decade at the presidental level. And they cannot stand it.

Instead of taking the engineers disposition and asking 'why are our ideas not working?' and looking at the trends with cold blooded analysis and changing to adapt, The Dems have responded with paranoid conspiracy theories, vile personnal attacks, and other legalistic shennanigans that have relegated them to back bench status for the last few years. This is called Cognitive Dissonance in some quarters. In any event, it has earned them nothing but my contempt.

Oh yes, I've seen that they want to run an impeachment trial of President Bush. Sorry, no. Not during war time. I remember how bad things sucked after Nixon and the late 70's. I'll be damned If it let that happen again. Just let Bush disappear like a greasy sizzle on a griddle and the country will be a lot better for it.

176 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:47:20pm
#165 RTLM

Populations are there for Muslims. They just need mobility.
We need fortified borders.

And baby-making is fun...

You'll get no disagreement from me.

/especially about baby-making

177 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:47:25pm

When you give it any thought at all, you realize that this really is the religion of degenerate fools. And I include the burkha clad clitless in that net.

178 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:48:01pm

soo...too harsh?

179 Merrick Wanta Registratia  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:49:38pm

(without reading the rest of the comments) Ah, how cute. Maybe I can dress up either as a moonbat(wearing a placard saying Bush lied my brain died) or a Jihadi. It is always fun, let's party like it is 1309 "yawn". Maybe Mr. Bigglesworth and Dr. Rovel can send in some sharks with friggin' hair lasers to decimate Nancy Powers and the Jihadi Circus Team(AKA the F-team).

180 RTLM  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:49:42pm

KB,
Heh

181 x-ray  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:51:04pm

#173 cbinflux
Ya think the Sharia court shuts down for 2 months, Christmas (when they are trying a Christian) or any other day? Hell no, mobs never take the day off since they don't work.

They are allot like the stoners we have here in the states:)

182 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:51:48pm
183 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:52:19pm

#162 cattt

I KNOW that woman!

[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...]

184 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:54:49pm
185 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:54:58pm

"STOCKS HIT NEW HIGH. ECONOMY IN COMPLETE DEPRESSION, PELOSI TELLS CBS"

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

186 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:56:15pm

#183 cont'd
[Link: looneytunes.warnerbros.com...]

187 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:58:01pm

#174 Jewels (AKA Julian)
Don't do that again. Too much reading. And your boy Carter is so stupid that a rabbit called him hare-brained.

188 RTLM  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:59:29pm

178 Jewels

( soo...too harsh?

An LLL Mom (in my case) is a lesson in departed frustration.

Her and my LLL Stepfather attend their "book groups", teach 8th graders, hold little group-think-get-to-gethers and NPR, 60 minute & CBS themselves non stop.

THen attempt to team lecture me on the current events.

I make it a point to consume large quatities of alcohol while maintaining an even and low level keel while at home in Denver. I'm a lot bigger than them so I need to self-moderate.

No, not too harsh.

189 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 8:59:57pm

#187 pat

SO, are you saying that was a letter only a Mother could love..?

190 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:00:02pm

#187 pat

JC is hardly my boy. I think he's a complete asshat. But I'm trying to break my mothers Illusions of Carter gently.

191 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:02:12pm

#189 cbinflux
Yes

192 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:02:38pm

#190 Jewels

Send Hallmark (TM)

193 flagpony  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:02:57pm

Was wolf blitzer in the video?

194 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:03:35pm

U.S. Department of Peace, legislation pending.

/stop Speaker Pelosi!

195 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:04:45pm

#191

Well then it's especially sad; it pissed her off too. The poor woman's questioning her parenting skills...

/Jewels, Shame on you!

196 RTLM  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:04:50pm

Good nite all.

197 carridine  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:04:55pm
198 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:05:19pm

Cbinflux

I do that anyway. But I'm the only conservative (relatively speaking) in the immediate family. mother is a democrat senator (in any other state she'd bea republican). Dad's a Statist asshat. So she's the only one I can talk to on this.

*sigh*

199 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:08:21pm

Jewels

You'll never win that one.

It is a shame that Rebublicans are (not so) yesterday's Democrats. Values are eroding...

200 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:11:03pm

#198 Jewels (AKA Julian)
Well, I can sympathize a bit there. My mother had very sharp claws. A bit of wine at the Holiday table, and all were fair target. She would call the dog slow witted.

201 The Duke  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:14:38pm

Amalie 142:

Great ! There should be a grassroots action to inform the sponsors of CNN that we don't appreciate CNN's Trash brand of Islamofacist propaganda , nor the products they are advertising on their websites and TV programming ...

Hit em where it hurts the most , the best way to switch off terrorists is to take their cash flow ...HARD !

:-)

202 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:15:45pm

Keith Ellison could be first Muslim elected to US Congress
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Poised to become the first Muslim elected to the US Congress, Keith Ellison has become a media magnet.
But on the campaign trail, the bespectacled populist downplays his religion and tries to focus on his progressive platform.
Ellison has weathered sharp attacks on his character, questions about his political past and criticism over his sloppy personal and financial affairs.
He is not afraid to take aim at US policies and has demanded an immediate pullout of American troops from Iraq.
Barring a political meltdown, Ellison is expected to win a seat in the House of Representatives in the November 7 election.
Though he's fasting for Ramadan and proud of his religion, the 43-year-old attorney says it's the media who have made it a big deal.
Rather, he calls for peace in Iraq, for greater US reliance on renewable fuels and for a universal, government-paid health care system.
"We need to care about the common good," Ellison recently told cheering students in St. Paul, the capital of Minnesota.
Still, his campaign headquarters are flooded with about 30 calls a day from the US and international media drawn to the story of a black Muslim running for office in the predominantly white Midwestern state of Minnesota.
Despite all the attention, pundits say Ellison's religion and race are not expected to impact the election significantly.
"His policy positions and ideology are the most important considerations for most voters," Pearson told AFP. "But that's not to say his religion is not an issue."
Many who won't vote for him because he is a Muslim would not have anyway because of his liberal Democratic views, she said. There also are others who see his past association with Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam, as a sign of anti-Semitism.
Ellison insists his involvement with Farrakhan was limited to an 18-month period when he helped organize the 1995 Million Man March on Washington which aimed to encourage black men to better their communities.
Today, Ellison bills himself as a moderate Muslim who wants to build coalitions with all religions and races.
He's won the support of the National Jewish Democratic Council and a prominent Minneapolis Jewish newspaper, even though his main opponent, Republican Alan Fine, is Jewish.
At St. Paul Central High School, where Ellison spoke recently, Curtis Bakken was among young Democrats who see Ellison's religion as a plus.
"With everything going on in the Mideast," Bakken said, "it's really great that we could have someone who could relate, a Muslim in office."
Ellison says he became involved in politics in college after hearing about apartheid, and he converted from Catholicism to Islam. He denies claims that his supporters include those with links to terrorist organizations.
"My campaign is about peace," Ellison told AFP in Minneapolis. "My campaign is diametrically opposed to terrorism."
203 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:17:36pm

I'm dreading Thanksgiving. I sense another round of Bush bashing on the horizon. While I think the man can be legitimately criticised for many things, the family tend to go for the sound bite accusation and vitrol. And I'm old fashioned (read, fair to my opponents)

*sigh*

204 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:22:24pm

#203 Julian

Then invite Pamela as your quest. I am serious. This girl loves to confront the slow.And she knows how to use a knife and fork, a napkin, and can serve wine.

[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

205 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:24:35pm

Lieberman blasted on all sides at debate
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Hecklers interrupted the debate at times, and some chanted "Lieberman Protects Cheney." They were escorted from the theater.
206 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:25:00pm
#202 cbinflux

Keith Ellison could be first Muslim elected to US Congress

Take it to the bank, barring a miracle, it's a done deal, no matter how unqualified and sleazy he is. For some bizzare reason, he has the state DFL endorsement, that entitles him to a coronation, not a competetive election.

The Minnesota 5th (Minneapolis) hasn't elected a Republican since WWII. It's the bluest part of the deep blue sea.

/we're talking can't swing a cat without hitting at least three moonbatici

207 fluffy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:26:04pm

#203 Jewels

I'm dreading Thanksgiving.

I plan to announce: "Don't start; I might finish it."

Last Christmas my brother-in-law slammed on the brakes before going over the cliff. He was inches from stating that President Bush had caused Katrina with his magic hurricane machine.

208 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:27:32pm

Jewels

In a calm and loving voice, remind them that you will likely be seeing to all of their needs at the nursing home.

If they fail to heed your advice, start making a list of their favorite (absolutely hated) foods and music... the nurses always appreciate those notes.

209 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:29:08pm

#206 kb

He'll get the feel-good kumbayuh vote there. They're the VAST majority.

210 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:31:28pm

"Huh?"

*Norsk Troll looks up*

"I'm sorry, I wasn't paying attention...what did they say in the video?"

*Norsk Troll puts his head back down*

"I was busy cleaning my Maw Deuce, here..."

211 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:31:43pm
#207 fluffy

He was inches from stating that President Bush had caused Katrina with his magic hurricane machine.

You mean HAARP?

/hurricanes, earthquakes, no problem, the button sits on Cheney's desk

212 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:31:57pm

#204 pat 10/23/2006 11:22PM PDT

#203 Julian

Then invite Pamela as your quest. I am serious

How Freudian is that?

:D

213 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:32:14pm

Jewels
So much advise. So little turkey.

May I suggest you bring some high end Tequilas, salt, Margarita mix, and a blender? A bit of sashimi. And the dog.
And tell mom that you joined the NRA and just bagged a deer.

214 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:33:36pm

212 Amalie

So, you have awaken.

215 Tasty Beverage  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:34:09pm

#190 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Is your family Jewish? Introduce your folks to the works of Bernard Lewis. I know you're familiar with him but they might not be. Lewis is actually quite the Lib, but his studies of islam caused him to "look twice" -- non-moonbats who have studied islam in depth tend to discount Lewis because he's a bit of an apologist -- but that's irrelevant because we're talking about waking up the people who don't know anything about islam.

I've found that Bernard Lewis's works like What Went Wrong are key to clue-ing in moonbats at first...Lewis lights the flame of uncertainty in their minds, but gives the requisite praise (in Lib-minds) for the Turd World faith. Then he delves deeper and explains partly why the "faith" causes trouble. If the Lib reader then wants to truly find out what causes this "trouble", you can point them in the direction of Robert Spencer (The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam, and then The Truth About Muhammad), Sergei Trifkovic, and Andrew Bostom (among others).

If your parents need even more enlightenment, introduce them to the works of Bat Ye'or, so they may learn about the plight of Jews as dhimmis under Sharia. I could go on and on with the list of reading material.

216 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:34:42pm

#211 Killian Bundy

Science!

217 fluffy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:35:05pm

#211 Killian Bundy

You mean HAARP?

Rove!

218 MSMediacritic  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:35:24pm

#203 Jewels (AKA Julian) 10/23/2006 11:17PM PDT

Try this:

"I'm sure that the secret plans the Democrats have for making the world into a paradise would work, but they are just going to have to whine until they can figure out how the Republicans steal elections."

219 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:35:47pm
#210 EtNorskTroll

"I was busy cleaning my Maw Deuce, here..."

Um, what's your address?

/I think the ATF would like to have a word with you

220 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:36:22pm

TB

My parents havea Copy of P.I.G. that I loaned my dad. My dads a lib, but not a fool. But in many respects Still ideologically blind

221 MSMediacritic  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:37:48pm

#207 fluffy

Last Christmas my brother-in-law slammed on the brakes before going over the cliff. He was inches from stating that President Bush had caused Katrina with his magic hurricane machine.

I'm sorry, there's no way he could be right about that. You see, I had borrowed the magic hurricane machine for a couple of weeks to see if it could be adapted to steal elections.

222 Amalie  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:39:01pm

214 Pat

Yes, the prince finally hacked his way through and gave me that kiss..

223 cbinflux  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:39:06pm

Pakistan tries to shed Khan proliferation stigma
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Pakistan wants to put the "sordid chapter" of proliferation by nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan behind it and build civilian nuclear ties with the United States, a senior military official said on Monday.

He added, however, that for "reasons of national sensitivity," the father of Pakistan's nuclear bomb could not be made available for direct questioning over his sale of nuclear parts and secrets to states including Iran, Libya and North Korea.

"We look forward to life beyond that episode," said the Pakistani official in a briefing on Pakistan's nuclear safeguards to a small group of reporters in Washington at which he requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Khan admitted in 2004 to operating a worldwide network that proliferated nuclear technology. He was placed under house arrest in Islamabad and avoided more severe punishment.

The Pakistan government has refused to allow U.S. investigators to have direct access to the disgraced scientist and says it has shared all information about Khan's network. The United States says it would like answers to a number of other questions.

Islamabad wants access to nuclear technology similar to what the United States has offered Pakistan's rival India under a landmark 2005 U.S. civilian nuclear deal being debated by the U.S. Congress, the official said.

The U.S. offer of civilian nuclear technology to India should "not be country specific, but should provide a level playing field for Pakistan as well," said the official, who said Islamabad had ambitious nuclear power plans to fuel economic growth for its nation of 150 million people.

The official used a power-point presentation to outline institutional and policy safeguards on nuclear technology that Pakistan has imposed since its 1998 nuclear bomb test and since the unraveling of the Khan network.

Despite an image as a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism, the official said most Pakistanis were moderate and "not closet revolutionaries." There was no danger of radical Islamists taking over Pakistan through violence or elections, he said.

224 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:39:08pm

*wonders if he should wear his 'Ask Uncle ZOG' shirt to thanksgiving*

225 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:39:16pm

Killian Bundy

Aw shucks, Killian~!

I'm not stingy! I've got enough for everyone...

heh.

~Norsk Troll

226 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:45:08pm

#222 Amalie

I merely suggest that while the men folk are admiring Pamelas attributes and debating skills, that Jewels might engage his mother in discourse

A way to bring a son closer to mom, so to speak. (Altho in my experience, this has sometimes backfired. Did I mention my mom would call a dog dimwitted?)

227 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:47:41pm
#225 EtNorskTroll

I'm not stingy! I've got enough for everyone...

Well, maybe I'm rusty on my understanding of Federal gun laws, but I don't think civilians are allowed to own automatic weapons.

/boy, if I'm wrong, I want an MP5

228 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:48:03pm

#226 pat

Fortunately, My mother is of the old civilized discourse school. Padre, OTOH...

I won't even start on my brother. it give me a headache thinking on his level

229 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:50:25pm

Oh, man.

An MP5 is sweet. Got to shoot one in Nevada, once.

Really, really fine weapon.

Whelp! This Norwegian Troll is pretty tired. Gonna call it a night.

Blessings, everyone.

ZZZzzz

230 Tasty Beverage  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:50:54pm

#220 Jewels (AKA Julian)

My parents havea Copy of P.I.G. that I loaned my dad. My dads a lib, but not a fool. But in many respects Still ideologically blind

But have you asked if they've read it? And then followed up with questions about what they think will happen with people who believe like that?

I'm not trying to be an asshole, just curious, since you have intimate access to people who are trying to avoid the truth about islamic imperialism. If they've read those books, then don't they realize the muslims truly believe what their "book" instructs them to believe? -- i.e., "Slay the infidel wherever ye find him" and "Take not the Jews and Christians for your friends, for they are friends and helpers of each other. Verily, he who befriends them is one of them." -- do your parents know about these islamic commandments? What do they make of them?

/nytol, I'll check tomorrow for fun responses.

231 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:53:08pm

#227 Killian Bundy
It is a bit State by State. First you must have a Fed permit. Then all States but one require you to be a collector. Some only allow antiques. One State allows ownership in general. But why bother? Waste of ammo and sites. Sniper is far more deadly.

232 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 9:55:36pm

TB:

My da was raised ian Cathlic school (and rails against them ever since), so he understands they mean it. My mother...Child of the Enlightenment, if you get my drift. it's an alien concept for her

233 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:00:12pm

Jewels, I will leave on this truly depressing note. Copy it for your mother without the source attached. At leaste your father will get it.

[Link: www.spectator.org...]

234 pat  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:01:18pm

Amalie
Nite.

235 Tasty Beverage  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:02:32pm

#232 Jewels (AKA Julian)

My da was raised ian Cathlic school (and rails against them ever since), so he understands they mean it. My mother...Child of the Enlightenment, if you get my drift. it's an alien concept for her

I get it. You're fighting an up-hill battle. Good luck to you.

/going for real now

236 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:06:26pm
#231 pat

Sniper is far more deadly.

You got that right.

/and then there's the world record 2,430 metre shot

237 Trumanite  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:08:22pm

202 cbinflux 10/23/2006 11:15PM PDT
Keith Ellison could be first Muslim elected to US Congress
[Link: news.yahoo.co...]

Heard it was wrong for Muslims to masturbate during Ramadan.

Apparently it's OK for them to get their ass licked during Eid.

There are, of course, a couple of things Powell was evidently too busy administering deep analingus to mention about "bespectacled, eloquent, coalition building populist" Ellison (aka Keith Hakim or Keith X Ellison or Ellison-Muhammad), e.g.:

From the time of his emergence as a public figure in Minnesota, Ellison has served as the local leader and spokesman of a hate cult, an associate of Minnesota's most vicious gang leader following his gang's murder of Minneapolis police officer Jerry Haaf, and a supporter of cop killer wannabe Kathleen Soliah/Sara Jane Olson following her apprehension by the FBI in St. Paul in 1999.

238 The Other Les  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:31:38pm

# 37 Killian Bundy

Why destroy it when we could easily confiscate it. The black three-piece meteorite, is a stationary target which their "religion" prohibits them from moving. It's located in an open air mosque and it's not far from the water. Any such operation is well within our military/paramilitary capabilities. I don't think a safe 45 minute air corridor over Saudi soil is too much to ask for.


Move it to Las Vegas. The folks there know how to safely handle large crowds. And extract money from them.

/What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

239 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:35:07pm

*considers purchasing battlefield 2142 to blow off steam*

240 The Other Les  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:36:20pm

# 56 Nastification Agenda

Alexander said in her request for a restraining order that the following week [Ellison] came to her Minneapolis home, at 1403 NE. Washington St., grabbed her and verbally abused her, then threatened her. Her request alleges that he also broke the screen door on his way out.


I grew up on Washington Street. The family home was about five blocks to the North.

241 Render  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:42:27pm

Y'all might try doing a websearch for "machinegun shoot."

Especially Knob Creek.

Sniper vs machinegun? The snipers are just the foreplay, when its mad minute time, full auto is where its at.

The previous record long distance sniper shot was made by Marine Carlos Hathcock using a Browning M2 .50cal MG with a scope mounted on it.

===

#239 Jewels

Had you thought about Day of Defeat instead? It's much cheaper.

1200RPM,
R

242 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:44:29pm

Render

there is that. But BF 2142 is sooo shiny :D

243 freedomplow  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:49:03pm

Michael J. Fox

Every generation is searching for their fountain of youth.

The government cannot save you!

Stop acting like it can.

244 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:52:14pm
#241 Render

Y'all might try doing a websearch for "machinegun shoot."

So, can I legally own an MP5?

/'cause I'll go out and buy one

245 Render  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 10:58:06pm

[Link: dssg.hlstatsx.com...]

Shiny huh? I guess so...

As you can see, I blow off a lot of steam with DoD. Dssg has a handful of players in 2142, the jury remains out.

I was one of those who was real unimpressed with BF2. The premise was great, the playability wasn't bad, the historical/reality factor was horrible.

There is a fine line between simulation and arcade shoot em up.

I tend to lean heavily toward the simulation side.

...and I love the MG-42.

RIP,
R

246 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:04:56pm

how about the MOH series of FPS's?

247 Render  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:06:36pm

#244 Killian

Yeah. Depending on your state and local laws, as well as your ability to qualify for and afford the federal tax stamp.

Knob Creek is just one of a dozen or so full-auto shoots held around the country.

Seen all kinds o crazy chit at some of those shoots.

A '67 El Camino painted camo and mounting a twin .50 in the bed, (American technical?).

A company that makes full auto scale model MG-42s out of chopped up Ruger .22 rifles.

The 5.56mm mini-guns used in Predator and Terminator2.

A triple 5.56mm mini-gun mount.

After all, this is still America, where its a tradition to fill the air with lead when in combat.

CUZ
WE
CAN,
R

248 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:08:46pm

MoH = Medal Of Honor

249 Render  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:11:49pm

#246 Jewels

MOH wasn't bad, but the heavy weapons were unmoveable deathtraps. MOH was/is a better game as a single player. DoD doesn't have a single player option.

I switched to DoD as soon as I found out I could pick up the MG and move it somewhere else on the map.

MOBILE
CLAYMORE,
R

250 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:14:10pm

needing sleep

251 Render  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:19:25pm

Sleep?

Good idea.

1,300 people lurking and we're babbling about fps games in a deader than dead thread...

Don't see any fruitcups around either.

PHOOEY,
R

252 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:21:55pm

Have you guys played TacOps 4?

A higher echelon than first person shooter.

/the demo is impossible to win, last time I checked, all Warsaw Pact, all the time, but that was version 3

253 Mike C.  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:23:22pm

# 244 K B

You can only legally own automatic weapons made before 1986 (1987 ? I forget which.) This was a little addition to federal law designed to eventually make it prohibitively expensive for most people to even consider owning a full auto weapon. So if you have your eye on something newer than that, forget it.

254 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:24:58pm
#251 Render

Don't see any fruitcups around either.

Ain't no fruit cup for over half an hour yet.

/you don't get it 'till its time

255 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:24:58pm

Al Sadr, aka "Tater," and his army of retards and bandits, the "Tater Tots," are the source of the massive violence in the Baghdad area.
They are Iranian tools and Malaki shields them. This appears to be changing, since US and Iraqi troops have had a couple of confrontations with the Tots recently.
Maybe Malaki has had the law laid down: Hang Saddam and fry the Tater and we might think about leaving. Not one day sooner.

257 littleoldlady  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:25:58pm

I didn't want to interrupt the BoyTalk with fruitcup.

Besides, you're 35 minutes too early...

258 Sprite  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:36:14pm

Jewels and Fluffy,

You still here?

I have a similar problem. Tonight I received an email from one of my moonbat brothers, extolling the 'eloquence' of the brother-of-Pat Tillman letter on the eve of the elections, asking all in the family to pass it on.

My entire family and their inlaws are All moonbaticci.

In the past I've provided many educational links regarding Islam and news on the WOT, including most prominently LGF. In response I receive anti-Bush, anti anti tirades. They gang up.

Tired now. It is so hard to live with a large family of moonbats, even though they all live in five states other than my own.

If there were one, quintessential piece I could find to shut them up - or at least open up their brains, I would be most grateful..

I know, I know. Even that wouldn't be enough.

How very sad, indeed.

Night Lizards.

259 Mike C.  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:39:35pm

Well, I gotta get back to the meeting, so somebody else will have to open.

260 littleoldlady  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:40:35pm

Rich! I'm gonna be RICH!

261 littleoldlady  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:42:00pm

Oh. Um...we'll miss you Mikey!

262 Spiritualized  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:43:08pm

"Palestinians" crapping on their own doorstep shocker!

Palestinian gunmen kidnap AP photographer in Gaza

GAZA (Reuters) - Palestinian gunmen kidnapped a Spanish photographer working for the Associated Press news agency in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, the AP in Gaza and Palestinian security sources said.

263 Killian Bundy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:43:52pm
#258 Sprite

In response to your question of a couple days ago . . .

/yes, I'm a licensed attorney

264 Sprite  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:46:25pm

#263 Killian,

Thanks. Thought so..

265 fluffy  Mon, Oct 23, 2006 11:46:30pm

#258 Sprite

If there were one, quintessential piece I could find to shut them up - or at least open up their brains, I would be most grateful.

If only...

My wife has her head on straight. I wouldn't marry her brother. ;)

266 Sprite  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:01:04am

#265 fluffy,

Thank God for your wife :) !

I find it maddening. These people, my family, all with advanced degrees..doctors, lawyers and etc., who are so entrenched in their myopic hatred that they apparently can't find one minute to actually research and learn about our real enemy.

How can I help to protect my own family when they choose, instead, to be blind?

Bah. It's beyond tragic to me.

In the last face to face argument I had with them last Spring, one brother said, "Sprite", You're so smart, how can you not see?

Ah, pathetic irony..

267 littleoldlady  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:01:14am

/Mikey mode on

Good morning Dead Thread.

Damn meetings.

/Mikey mode off

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruit cup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

/Miguel mode on

Good night and God Bless!

/Miguel mode off

//I'm exhausted!

268 fluffy  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:06:42am

#266 Sprite

How can I help to protect my own family when they choose, instead, to be blind?

You answered your own question.

I think the relative security and incredible prosperity that shelters us also blinds a lot of us. CNN and the NY Times don't really want to live under sharia, but they simply can't conceive of a radical change. France or Belgium could end up as a tragic object lesson for a lot of us.

269 shaken  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:11:36am

Just wondering when Al-Zawahiri is going to rush to martydom? It's got to be his turn pretty soon, no? I am getting concerned for his place in paradise.

270 MSMediacritic  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:21:47am

First time I've ever been up late enough to get fruitcup.

271 littleoldlady  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:23:30am

MSMediacritic,

Bon appetit!

/pardon my french

:-)

272 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:38:13am

Carpet Crawlers

/please don't make me meke sense of it all

273 Sprite  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:38:53am

#268 fluffy,

Well, I responded and then my computer froze. Just got back and I'm too tired to reconstruct.

So I'll just say good night for now :)

Sleep well/wake well, All.

And thanks for taking on multiple duties tonight, lol :)

274 waitaminnit  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:41:52am

Says "Howdy" as he carries in a 2 inch thick Pineapple upside down cake and a bowl of whipped cream. Puts them down on the buffet table, quickly fills a coffee cup full of the life giving fluid, takes a sip, says,"Thanks all for the enlightenment." Then heads back out the door to Lurksville, singing "409"

275 MSMediacritic  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:45:10am

#271 littleoldlady 10/24/2006 02:23AM PDT

Thanks, but all the same I'd rather be asleep.

276 littleoldlady  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 12:57:42am

waitaminnit,

Cake? I started my diet yesterday and today you bring CAKE?!

/umm! yummy! I'll restart tomorrow...

#275 MSMediacritic,

Yeah, me too. :-( But now I have to get to work.

Good day, ALL!™

277 Mike C.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:07:38am

Damn - the early shift is falling apart again.

278 MSMediacritic  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:13:38am

Now it is time for me to go to sleep.

Just got everything working.

Night all.

279 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:15:40am
#277 Mike C.

Damn - the early shift is falling apart again.

Yeah, well you were AWOL yesterday.

/pay the Piper

280 Mike C.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:22:51am

# 279 K B

I worked until 11 PM - so shoot me.

281 kabu  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:24:11am

oh.. like we have on christmes. so tuchy. send comments on BBC.COM at HAVE YOUR SAY, and show the mainstreem media they only full themself!

282 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:35:56am

kabu

Where are you posting from?

283 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:36:18am

Killian Bundy,

You up early? Or still here from last night?

284 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:39:15am
#280 Mike C.

so shoot me.

Happiness is a Warm Gun

/Hey Jude

285 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:44:43am

Good morning, Lizards.

286 NoSubmission  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:46:56am

Palestinian gunmen kidnap AP photographer

JERUSALEM - Palestinian gunmen kidnapped an Associated Press photographer in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, grabbing him as he walked out of his apartment and whisking him away in their vehicle, a witness said.

Emilio Morenatti, 37, the photographer, was heading out of his apartment for an AP car, where Majed Hamdan, an AP driver and translator, was waiting. Hamdan said four gunmen grabbed his keys and phone and told him to turn away, pressing a gun to his head and threatening to harm him if he moved.

287 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:50:27am

(In unison) Good morning teacher!

288 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:53:43am

Mornin' All!
Hey Geeps!

289 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:54:34am

#287 BenZacharia

I'm giggling at the mental picture of iguanas sitting bolt upright with their hands clasped on their desks...

BTW, my high school students do say, "Good afternoon, Ma'am." I never asked them to use "ma'am" (that wouldn't fly in PA); I just mentioned how much I loved the "ma'am" when one of them happened to say it.

290 Mike C.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:56:06am

# 284 K B

Thanks, I guess, but the connectivity out here in the boonies doesn't allow things like watching video.

291 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:57:24am

"When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris."

"Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants."

"Outer space exists because it's afraid to be on the same planet with Chuck Norris."

292 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:58:10am

I prefer to susbtitute "Jack Bauer" for Chuck Norris...

293 Joel  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:02:49am

#292 Goddessoftheclassroom
I would prefer Chuck Norris. Kiefer Sutherland is a moonbat in real life.

Back on topic - thanks for the "gift" but I would prefer another day of alternate side of the street parking being suspended for "Eid."

294 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:02:50am

Well, off I go to do my part towards the continuation of American civilization...have a great day, Lizards!

295 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:03:38am

Morning idigscotch&scotchburiesme.

Where ya at this AM?

Cold and cloudy here in Central Ohio.

296 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:04:47am

Joel, I just saw your message. I must emphasize that I couldn't care less about Kiefer Sutherland. It's the CHARACTER, Jack Bauer, I adore.

I do have an unfortunate habit of falling for fictional characters. We won't even discuss Mr. Darcy.

297 Joel  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:07:52am

#296 Goddessoftheclassroom
Actually then I would rather have Dirty Harry (not the current wimpy Clint Eastwood who makes romantic dreck movies with Maryl Streep such as Bridges of Madison County), facing down terrorists. Or how about the Charles Bronson character from Death Wish?

298 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:09:01am

Mark Styn is on DR. Bennett's Show for any who choose to enjoy.

299 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:11:59am

#293 Joel 10/24/2006 04:02AM PDT

#292 Goddessoftheclassroom
I would prefer Chuck Norris. Kiefer Sutherland is a moonbat in real life.

Is he really? I don't follow entertainment news.

300 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:13:01am

Now we know what the BBC is fighting so hard to keep the public from knowing. (As if we needed them to admit to the blatant bias we see everyday.)

BBC admits: We are biased on religion and politics


Internal corporation memo on ‘impartiality’ summit leaked to British media exposes truth on BBC bias

An internal memo, recently discovered by the British media, revealed what the BBC has been trying to hide. Senior figures admitted in a recent 'impartiality' summit that the BBC was guilty of promoting Left-wing views and anti-Christian sentiment.

Most executives admitted that the corporation’s representation of homosexuals and ethnic minorities was unbalanced and disproportionate, and that it leaned too strongly towards political correctness, the overt promotion of multiculturalism, anti-Americanism and discrimination against the countryside.

Lovely.

One senior BBC executive admitted to the ‘Daily Express’, "There was a widespread acknowledgement that we may have gone too far in the direction of political correctness. Unfortunately, much of it is so deeply embedded in the BBC's culture, that it is very hard to change it."


It would be hard to do? Awww, you poor baby. Well if it might be hard, don't worry about sweety, just keep watching your company go down the toilet.

301 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:18:09am

Geepers #295
Still at home just a short drive from Anchorage, AK. 26 Degrees and so dark still I couldn't tell ya but no stars so probably cloudy.
( Goddesoftheclassroom, Please don't grade my grammer this early in the morning. ) :)

302 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:24:29am

idigscotch&scotchburiesme (#301),

Anchorage eh? You are up early.

303 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:24:31am

Geepers #300
Is there any serious effort in Great Britain/England to abolish that tax they have to pay to support that beast BBC? I pity the common people that are being led by the nose to their own demise.

304 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:30:02am

3 carriers groups and 3 MEUs headed for, or already in, the Persian Gulf. The entire gulf doesn't allow enough room for the regular deployment configuration for 1 carrier group. Gettin' a little crowded in the pond.

OOOH Mahdi! Come out and play!

.

305 songbird  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:30:36am

Good Morning, Lizardoids, from Overcast and Rainy Las Cruces, New Mexico!

306 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:30:57am

Geeps #302
Ghhaaa... Been up for 2 1/2 this morning, but I normally wake right around now. Definately a morning person I is. :)

307 scaramouche  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:32:52am

From the November issue of First Things:

So what is the name of the enemy? A lot of candidates have been proposed and employed in the last five years: Islamic fundamentalism, Islamofascism, Islamic totalitarianism, Islamism, terrorism, or simply extremism. Islamism, as distinguished from Islam, is used by many scholars, but it is a subtlety that will elude most people. Fundamentalism is an American Christian phenomenon with a very specific history that has nothing to do with Islam. Terrorism is a means employed by the enemy, but it does not name the enemy. And extremism is a generalized pejorative naming nothing in particular. References to fascism and totalitarianism have a fine hawkish ring, and there are indeed some parallels between what we faced in Nazism and communism and what confronts us now, but the dissimilarities are much greater, beginning with the role of religion in the new challenge. So what is the name of the enemy? I suggest that the most accurate term is Jihadism. The definition is not difficult to understand: Jihadism is the religiously inspired ideology that it is the moral obligation of all Muslims to employ whatever means necessary in order to compel the world’s submission to Islam. Those who support that ideology are Jihadists, and that is exactly what they say they believe. They describe themselves as Jihadists, and there is no reason why we should impose upon them a name—fascist, fundamentalist, etc.—from our Western and distinctly non-Islamic history. It will be objected that in the Qur’an, jihad can also mean peaceful spiritual struggle. That is true, as it is true that those Muslims who believe jihad means peaceful spiritual struggle are not the enemy. “Jihadism.” Say it five times and it comes easily. It has the additional merit of being accurate. It is good to see that this terminology is gaining some traction in our public discussions.

308 Mike C.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:36:40am

BenZ

3 carrier groups ? Got a link for that one ?

309 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:37:42am

songbird #305
Born and raised in Albuquerque and spent a four year stint in Silver City prior to joining the Air Force, but then that was 27 years ago. Send me some cyber chilies, to heck with this fruit cup biddnes.
/ducks from littleoldlady's wicked left hand curve

310 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:38:58am

Four battle groups have taken up positions off Iran.

311 songbird  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:42:18am

#309 idigscotch...

Cyber chiles on their way and mental brain waves of the memory of chiles roasting in the autumn!

It's been a good and bad year for chiles. I got one of the last amazing batches before Hatch got flooded this year.

We've had more than our yearly allotment of rain for a true desert in the past month alone!

312 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:44:06am

Mike C.

Debka, I know. &

Jerome Corsi

And posts I'm siftting through on Mil blogs.

313 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:47:21am

Mike C.

The straight poop from the US Navy!

Look at the deployments.

314 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:50:58am

So I guess you'd call this our first snowfall eh BenZacharia?

315 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:51:39am

Ships Underway

Carriers:
USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) - Philippine Sea
USS Enterprise (CVN 65) - Persian Gulf
USS Nimitz (CVN 68) - Pacific Ocean
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) - Mediterranean Sea
USS Ronald Reagan - Pacific Ocean

Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG):
USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) - Persian Gulf
USS Nashville (LPD 13) - Persian Gulf
USS Whidbey Island (LSD 41) - Persian Gulf

Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG):
USS Boxer (LHD 4) - Indian Ocean
USS Dubuque (LPD 8) - Indian Ocean
USS Comstock (LSD 45) - Indian Ocean

Essex Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG):
USS Essex (LHD 2) - South China Sea
USS Juneau (LPD 10) - South China Sea
USS Harpers Ferry (LSD 49) - South China Sea

Amphibious Warfare Ships:
USS Tarawa (LHA 1) - Pacific Ocean
USS Saipan (LHA 2) - Persian Gulf
USS Wasp (LHD 1) - port visit, Copenhagen, Denmark
USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Bataan (LHD 5) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Cleveland (LPD 7) - Pacific Ocean
USS Shreveport (LPD 12) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Ponce (LPD 15) - Atlantic Ocean
USS San Antonio (LPD 17) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Ashland (LSD 48) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Pearl Harbor (LSD 52) - Pacific Ocean

Aircraft (operational): 4000+

===
Relevant ones are Indian Ocean, Persian Gulf and the Mediterranean Sea. Although the Pacific ones can go either way, China Sea or Indian Ocean/Persian Gulf.

That's one hell of a show of force.

.

316 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:51:56am

songbird #311
One of my earliest memories of roasting chiles, I was probably 6 and my job was to peel the skin once they were cool enough to touch. Dad roasted em in hot oil. Had to go take a leak and he forgot to warn me to wash BEFORE touching my self. Yikes!

317 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:52:59am

#314 Geepers 10/24/2006 04:50AM PDT

So I guess you'd call this our first snowfall eh BenZacharia?

It's snowing?

Had 2 squalls up in Marion 2? weeks ago.

318 Logic  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:53:23am

I couldn't even make it through the first two minutes of that hideous wailing "music"! There is something that I truly believe: that there is pure evil in this world and we have the inborn instinct to recognize it and repute it. Watch and listen to the true nature of this ideology - and recognize it for what it is, not what others try to convince us it is.

319 Elric66  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:55:02am

Keifer is a moonbat? Say it isnt so!

320 Sharku  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:55:54am

#319 Elric66

Kiefer learned very well from his old man.

321 EnochCain  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:55:58am

I do not understand how people talk about cutting and running from Iraq...there is no running from these animals...they are everywhere and leaving Iraq will only embolden them.

322 daughter of patriots  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:56:10am

OT:15 year old Scot's school boy killed by ROPers:

THE murdered schoolboy Kriss Donald may have tried to douse flames on his body by rolling in mud, a court heard yesterday.

He had suffered numerous stab wounds, but it appeared he was still alive when he was set alight, a witness said. His mud-caked and badly burned body was found 50 yards from the spot where it was believed he had been attacked...

She said: "At that time, there had been a lot of rain, and there was water and mud at the side of the Clyde path. He may have tried to extinguish the flames by rolling in the mud."

Mrs Ramage said she had also examined a burnt-out Mercedes car, which had been set on fire in a lane near the Hillhead underground station...

Imran Shahid, 29, his brother Zeeshan Shahid, 29, and Mohammed Faisal Mushtaq, 27, deny abducting Kriss, 15, in Pollokshields, Glasgow, bundling him into a car and murdering him at the Clyde walkway on 15 March, 2004.

At a trial in 2004, Daanish Zahid, 22, was convicted of the murder and jailed for life and ordered to serve at least 17 years before he could apply for parole. A fifth man, Zahid Mohammed, 22, pleaded guilty to a role in the abduction and to attempting to pervert the course of justice by giving a false statement to police. He was jailed for five years.

323 storagemanager  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:56:12am
in which the severed head is waved in the air. (Both scenes, and another graphic scene, have been omitted from the version of the film posted here, but are available upon request).

Oh the love of Islam...

324 Mike C.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:56:30am

BenZ

Uh-oh. They don't usually do such things for nothing.

Anyway, time to head out for dinner, so back later.

325 Elric66  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:56:41am

Have fun Euros. Opposing Iraq and being good Dhimmis isnt enough it seems.

Taliban plotting attacks in Europe: commander
Posted: 23 October 2006 2318 hrs


Photos 1 of 1

An Afghan militant

Related News

• NATO troops deployed in west Afghanistan after factional fighting kills 32

• Taliban kill eight labourers working for US base: police

• Suicide attack on NATO kills two children, injures three soldiers

• NATO airstrike kills eight civilians in Afghanistan

• British troops pull out of Afghan district





LONDON : Afghan militants are planning to launch deadly attacks on civilians in Europe in revenge for the 2001 invasion by US-led forces, a Taliban commander said on Sky News television on Monday.

Mullah Mohammed Amin said resurgent militants had built up stockpiles of weapons and were bent on vengeance against "the foreign invaders".

The Taliban, overthrown by the invasion, now wanted to export terror to the West, he said.

"It's acceptable to kill ordinary people in Europe because these are the people who have voted in the government," he said.


[Link: www.channelnewsasia.com...]

326 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:57:55am

Logic #318
The abomination that causes desolation.

327 Elric66  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:59:12am

#320 Sharku 10/24/2006 04:55AM PDT
#319 Elric66

Kiefer learned very well from his old man.


God, he must hate Jack Bauer. Though it would explain his CAIR piece during Season 4

328 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:59:49am

BenZacharia,

That's one hell of a show of force.

Oh come on now, that's just propaganda. Everyone knows we're so over-extended fighting for survival in the Iraqi quagmire that we couldn't possibly do anything about Iran.

Senator Biden told me so just Sunday.

329 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 2:59:53am

Mike C.

Yeah, sh1t on a shingle! Somebodies gonna get hurt, 'cuz ArmniDinnerJacket thinks this is the way to bring on the Mahdi, bring on the funk.

.

330 Elric66  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:00:49am

Look out Euro, they are not happy about honest debate.


European Muslims worry about frank new Islam debate
Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:29 AM BST
By Tom Heneghan, Religion Editor

PARIS (Reuters) - Britain's heated debate about Islamic veils reflects a growing frustration with Muslims in Europe that risks further isolating these minorities rather than integrating them, leading European Muslim activists say.

The new tone in Britain, which Muslims on the continent long saw as a model of tolerance where criticising minorities was politically incorrect, marks a watershed in the way Europeans talk about Islam, they told Reuters.

Islamist radicalism, ethnic segregation and clashes of values must be discussed openly, they agreed, but the increasingly polarised debate squeezes out moderates on both sides.


Former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw sparked off the British debate this month by saying the full facial veils some Muslim women wear hindered integration. Some Muslim leaders called his remarks offensive and accused him of whipping up Islamophobia.

"Intolerance is growing in Europe," said Dalil Boubakeur, president of France's Muslim Council, who saw the new mood as a response to security fears and the radicalisation of a small minority of Muslims who do not accept European values.

[Link: today.reuters.co.uk...]

331 3 wood  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:01:45am

Good Morning Lizards.

BP profit falls 4% on flat production, taxes.

BP plc on Tuesday reported a 4% profit decline, hurt by flat production, weaker refinery output and rising taxes.

The rising oil prices and retail margins helped to compensate for higher taxes. Taxes on profit from continuing operations rose to 40% from 34% as Britain raised taxes for oil and gas pumped out of the North Sea.
Production was virtually flat compared to a hurricane-impacted quarter last year, at 3.82 million barrels a day.
The company cut its 2006 production outlook to 3.95 million barrels a day, compared with previous guidance between 4 million and 4.1 million barrels.
Production during the quarter was hurt by Prudhoe Bay, Alaska after the need to fix a pipeline there, as well as the impact of asset sales. Repairs in Alaska hurt production for the quarter by 27,000 barrels a day.

But I thought the mean, evil oil companies (and Bush and Rove) were manipulating oil prices to reap obscene profits? Funny how we are not hearing much from those conspiracy theorists on this anymore.

332 songbird  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:03:31am

#316 idigscotch...

Ha Ha Ha

Nothing like learning to respect the mighty chile the hard way!

333 BenZacharia  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:04:30am

TTFN

334 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:05:40am

Well, I'm a bit under the weather and operating on little sleep, but my mood is upbeat after the thrashing the NYG laid on the hapless Cowboys last night.
JINTS FINALLY IN 'TOP' FORM: ALONE IN 1ST PLACE AFTER BASHING ’BOYS

My only regrets are Lavar Arrington is gone for the season after finally showing up and they should have put up 50 on the scoreboard.

The Giants sacked Cowboys quarterbacks six times and prompted Parcells to bench Drew Bledsoe for the second half after he threw a brutal second-quarter interception. His replacement, Tony Romo, threw three more, the last of which was returned 96 yards for a clinching touchdown by rookie cornerback Kevin Dockery. Big-mouthed Cowboys receiver Terrell Owens (6-98) started slowly, finished strongly and did have a touchdown catch early in the fourth quarter, but wasn't a game-breaking factor.

"They outplayed us, they out-coached us, they out-did everything," Parcells said. "I am ashamed to put a team out there that plays like that."

Question for Plowboy fans. How's that T.O. thing working out?

335 TMF  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:10:29am

If THIS doesnt scare your ass into the voting booths on 11/7, nothing will.

Anyone have any advice on tax shelters (legal, of course :P)? We're about to get hit- hard!

336 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:10:52am

AP photographer kidnapped in Gaza.

Makes you wonder why they'd kidnap someone on their side?

337 Elric66  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:13:05am

#336 JammieWearingFool 10/24/2006 05:10AM PDT
AP photographer kidnapped in Gaza.

Makes you wonder why they'd kidnap someone on their side?

Easier to kidnap willing hostages.

338 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:13:28am

Gee, you'd almost think they were not on our side:

NY TIMES EDITORIAL

Trying to Contain the Iraq Disaster

Published: October 24, 2006

Today we want to describe a strategy for containing the disaster in Iraq as much as humanly possible. It is hardly a recipe for triumph.

Which makes it a strategy for defeat.

They really do think we're stupid don't you?

339 Elric66  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:16:02am

#338 Geepers 10/24/2006 05:13AM PDT
Gee, you'd almost think they were not on our side:

NY TIMES EDITORIAL

Trying to Contain the Iraq Disaster

Published: October 24, 2006

Today we want to describe a strategy for containing the disaster in Iraq as much as humanly possible. It is hardly a recipe for triumph.


Which makes it a strategy for defeat.

They really do think we're stupid don't you?

You have to be stupid to be a moonbat and since its mostly moonbats that read the NYT, they are writing to the choir.

340 baier  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:16:13am

I have the quote of the day. This is about the kidnapping of the AP photographer in Gaza.


Ghazi Hamad, spokesman for the Hamas-led Palestinian government, condemned the kidnapping, saying it "damages the reputation of the Palestinian people."

Yes...it's the kidnappings that damages the reputation on the Palestinian people...not the genocidal aims, the anti-semetic anti-christian rants, not the killing of people in the streets without trials, it's the kidnappings stupid.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

341 Miss Trixie  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:18:18am

♪ Good morning {LGF} ♪ Just poppin' in to say hello and then back to work. Awful busy this week but that's good IMO.

:)

342 Elric66  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:18:34am

CAIR alert


Hamas for Hipsters
By Joe Kaufman
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 24, 2006

Today, in what can only be seen as a sinister farce, Ahmed Rehab, the Executive Director of CAIR-Chicago, will be addressing the student body of Minnesota State University Moorhead as its fall keynote speaker for 2006. According to CAIR-Chicago’s website, the speech will include a discussion about 9/11, an event which CAIR is currently being sued over.


When viewing the CAIR-Chicago site, one comes away with the impression that the group is nothing more than a hip, modern youth movement. The colorful animated pages, the fancy three-piece suits, the corporate images, the happy smiling faces – all of this lends to this false image. But the reality is something entirely different.

CAIR or the Council on American-Islamic Relations was created by three leaders of a front for Hamas called the Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP). One of those leaders, CAIR’s current National Executive Director Nihad Awad, has, in the past, publicly stated his support for Hamas. As well, CAIR has solicited money for two Hamas-related charities that were shut down by the U.S. government in December of 2001, the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) and the Global Relief Foundation (GRF). Both groups had leaders that were also CAIR officials. One of those leaders, Ghassan Elashi, earlier this month, was sentenced to seven years in prison.

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

343 storagemanager  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:18:54am

New bumper sticker...Lose your head for Islam...Gotta love those wacky Mussslimbs

344 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:19:05am

#126 goodbye_natalie 10/23/2006 09:21PM PDT
Gordon's family...


OHMAHGAWD

that was GREAT!

Good job, GN~

345 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:19:50am

Good Morning Y'All.
How many times can you vote?

But there's a reason that Democrat partisans are more interested in raising the specter of Jim Crow than in protecting the integrity of the voting process. And here's a clue: While the Missouri Supreme Court was preparing its decision earlier this month, the Kansas City Star and St. Louis Post-Dispatch ran front-page stories about the thousands of fraudulent voter registrations submitted by Acorn, a national left-wing group financed in part by organized labor.

According to the Star, Acorn's voter registration drive generated some 35,000 applications, "but thousands of them appear to be duplicates or contain dubious data." The report went on to note that "[n]ear the top of the fishy list would be a man named Mark who apparently registered seven times over a three-day period using his mother's home address and phone number." Mom told the paper he hadn't lived there in six years.

Acorn and its affiliates have been among the most active and vocal opponents of voter ID laws in Missouri and nationwide. Now we know why.


The Don't Show Me State
The liberal assault on voter ID laws.

346 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:20:07am

On-air breakdowns are fascinating. Too bad nobody is around to witness it.

Olbermann Unglued in October: GOP is 'Leading Terrorist Group' in America

347 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:20:57am

Good Morning Y'all from a freezing (29 degrees, booming all the way up to 53) Charlotte. Blue skies and sun but frickin' COLD!How is everyone?

348 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:22:09am
349 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:22:49am
Victory isn’t always about winning,” said Rep. Pelosi. “Those of us who went to college know that sometimes when the going gets tough, the tough drop out. Who among us hasn’t experienced the exhilaration of walking out of the registrar’s office after dropping a course you were failing. America deserves to have that feeling again.”

Democrats Unveil Iraq War Strategy: ‘Drop the Course’

350 Elric66  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:24:31am

349 Geepers 10/24/2006 05:22AM PDT

“Victory isn’t always about winning,” said Rep. Pelosi. “Those of us who went to college know that sometimes when the going gets tough, the tough drop out. Who among us hasn’t experienced the exhilaration of walking out of the registrar’s office after dropping a course you were failing. America deserves to have that feeling again.”


Democrats Unveil Iraq War Strategy: ‘Drop the Course’

My god, what a fucking loser. If we had these people in charge in WW 2, we would be speaking German today.

351 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:24:52am

#338 Geepers - I bet that's what they tell the big boys about the circulation drops: they're stupid people out there! LOL!
Since I won't go near the NYT, what's their strategy for Iraq?

352 Miss Trixie  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:25:29am

{realwest} *smooch*

Cold drizzly rain here and I can't warm up my hands.

:(

353 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:26:10am

Storage, loose your head for Islam, hahahhaa

"Evil still stalks the planet.
Its ideology may be nothing more
than blood lust;
no program more complex
than economic plunder
or military aggrandizement.
But it is evil all the same.
And wherever there are forces
that would destroy the human spirit
and diminish human potential,
they must be recognized
and they must be countered."
~ Ronald Reagan

354 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:27:59am

realwest (#351),

There are lots of ways to lose, so I didn't get past when they admitted that up front.

355 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:28:29am

#348 JammieWearingFool - How 'bout them Giants?!
Didn't get to see the game, just know we beat Dallas by two touchdowns!
BBIAM - gotta get some HOT COFFEE NOW!

356 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:29:00am

Elric66 (#350),

It's a joke. Check the link. :-)

357 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:29:00am

Morning realwest,

Wow, it's colder down there apparently. high 30's here right now.

Well, my prediction of 27-21 was off base yesterday. I was being too generous to Dallas.

The defense, in particular the frontline, played very well, and now they've learned to hold onto the interceptions.

Was getting a little antsy as guys went down, and losing Arrington for the year doesn't help. But they're moving in the right direction and have three straight at home coming up.

I sense a wee bit of dissention in Dallas. Nice to see T.O. shut up for a couple minutes after dropping that fourth-down pass. Not sure exactly what that routine was when he caught his TD pass, but he appeared to behallucinating and swinging at imaginary demons.

358 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:29:11am

Mornin' Real, better get yer boodanzas on.

359 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:31:19am
...The Founders recognized that secrecy and fast action in respect of foreign and security policy can be vital to the national interest, which is why they vested such powers in the president. That point has been too often lost during President Bush's attempt to prosecute the war on terror. Despite the administration's briefings of key lawmakers, including Ms. Harman, on programs like the warrantless terrorist surveillance operation, Democrats have called for even more "cooperation" with Congress. It's now beginning to look like such secrets aren't necessarily safe even with the intelligence committee. Democrats' caterwauling about Mr. Bush's alleged obsession with imperious secrecy will ring hollow until they come clean about their own willingness — and ability — to keep important state secrets.

Ms. Harman is a relatively strong player among the Democrats, but Hamilton, as always, understood the phenomenon that we are witnessing today in the broadest sense. Federalist 70, which was issued in the Packet and addressed to the People of New York, was about the idea of a vigorous executive branch. And in it he put his finger — or pen — on exactly the nature of the fault of the Democrats today. "Men often oppose a thing," he wrote, "merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike. But if they have been consulted, and have happened to disapprove, opposition then becomes, in their estimation, an indispensable duty of self-love."


Self-Love of the Democrats
If they would only be serious.

360 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:39:44am

When I'm Empress of the Universe, he shall be my Consort.

Have a good day, fellow lizards.

361 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:40:44am

Look at THIS shit:

Andrew Sullivan

Iraq is no Vietnam – it's far worse than that

V, it turns out, is not for vendetta. It’s for Vietnam. In the long, bitter debate before the Iraq war it was always war opponents who brought the V-word up. Many of us who never lived through that nightmare shrugged it off. It was another baby-boomer neurosis, we thought. America had fought and won wars since then, notably the first Gulf war. America had liberated Afghan Muslims and protected Bosnian Muslims, without the “quagmire” so many warned about. It became a point of pride for war supporters to deny outright any Vietnam comparison as preposterous.

So it made news when last week the president himself confirmed that the analogy had some bite. He was asked about a recent analogy from Thomas Friedman, a columnist, who had compared the current moment in Iraq to the 1968 Tet offensive when Vietcong guerrillas in the south and North Vietnamese troops launched a joint attack and prompted a collapse in morale in the American heartland. “He could be right,” George W Bush said. “There’s certainly a stepped-up level of violence and we’re heading into an election.”

The president didn’t mean, mind you, that the United States was losing. He was reiterating what has long been a common view among neoconservatives: that the Tet offensive was a military failure for the Vietcong, which was crushed, but a profound PR success for the communist North. The lesson neoconservatives drew was that America will not falter, as it did in Vietnam.

“The full context was that the comparison was about the propaganda waged in the Tet offensive,” the White House explained later. “The president was reiterating something he’s said before — that the enemy is trying to shake our will.”

Consider it shaken. The polls suggest plummeting support for the war and deep discontent with the president and Congress. And the reason, it must be conceded, is similar to the reason in the Vietnam war. The US is now in a classic counter-insurgency war, just as it was in Vietnam. Its superior firepower is of no use in such a situation, just as carpet-bombing Vietnam and Cambodia couldn’t turn the Vietnamese population into allies of a foreign intervention.

[SNIP]

Read the rest HERE (if you can stand it)

362 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:42:09am
“Victory isn’t always about winning,” said Rep. Pelosi. “Those of us who went to college know that sometimes when the going gets tough, the tough drop out. Who among us hasn’t experienced the exhilaration of walking out of the registrar’s office after dropping a course you were failing. America deserves to have that feeling again.”

PELOSI'S A LOOOSSSERRR.

363 3 wood  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:42:55am

#357 Jammie

Congrats on the Giants win last night.

I sense a wee bit of dissention in Dallas. Nice to see T.O. shut up for a couple minutes after dropping that fourth-down pass

By this afternoon that drop will be the QB's fault.

364 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:45:35am

Why No One Steals Russian Nukes

Old Russian (Soviet era) nuclear warheads aren't getting onto the black market because you may be able to steal them, but getting them to work is much more difficult. Russian nukes are more high maintenance than most, and after as little as six months without tinkering and replacement of worn parts, the bombs no longer work. There's also a problem with the PAL (Permissive Action Links) codes. Without the PAL, you can't get the nuke to detonate. But more critical are the electronics and batteries, most of which are custom made, and the tritium booster material, which is always rapidly losing its unique ability to "boost" the initial reaction that makes the radioactive material explode.

So you can't just get one and light the fuse?

365 Bard  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:47:56am
366 AMER1CAN  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:48:14am
367 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:50:00am

Thomas Sowell is now at National Review.

...But elections are not about which politicians get to keep their jobs, though the media cover the news as if the political horse race is the issue. Elections are about the fate of 300 million Americans and the future of this nation.

That fate hangs grimly in the balance as two irresponsible regimes in North Korea and Iran seek to gain nuclear weapons. Neither leader of these regimes can be deterred by threats of nuclear retaliation, as the Soviet Union was deterred.

Both are like Hitler, who was willing to see his own people decimated and his own country reduced to rubble rather than quit when it was obvious to all that he could not win. If you can imagine Hitler with a few nuclear weapons to use to vent his all-consuming hatreds in a lost cause, you can see what a nuclear North Korea or a nuclear Iran would mean for America and the world.

It is obscene that our media should be obsessed with some jerk in Congress who wrote dirty e-mails to congressional pages — and was forced out of Congress for it — when this nation faces dangers of this magnitude.

It would be worse than obscene for some voters to cut off their nose to spite their face by either staying home on election day or actually voting a blank check from America for a party with a decades-long history of irresponsibility on national defense.

Even today, Democrats are arguing for more talks with North Korea and Iran, as if talk is going to stop such regimes from going nuclear, any more than talks with Hitler in the 1930s deterred him.

This is no longer about hawks and doves. It is about ostriches who bury their heads in the sand — and about those voters who are prepared to give a blank check to ostriches.

Blank Check from America?
Beyond hawks and doves.

By Thomas Sowell
I'll bet on the Republicans across the board.

368 Dave Bender  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:50:08am

IMHO THIS (see link below) is a better Charlie Brown Islamic parody. Not nasty, like the one way up top of this thread, and closer to the style and content of the shows we all (at least in the US) grew up with:

Charlie Brown: Jihad Christmas
[Link: betbender.blogspot.com...]

Dave
[Link: betbender.blogspot.com...]

369 Junior  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:50:36am

Good Morning Lizards!

Gorgeous 38 degrees here in Tallahasee, FL. Going for a high of 70 with blue skies.

OT:
Thanks to the Pops, Now We're Talkin'

One thing that is interesting is that while the Muslim leaders denounce violence, they do say there is a place for it. And the example they use?

As the Muslim signatories note, Jesus himself violently turned the moneychangers out of the Temple precincts.

Ya, I see a CLEAR comparison between that and slicing some heads off. Anyway...

As to RealClearPolitics - love the site! Here is a quick rundown:

Corker(R) up in TN on Ford(D) by 2%
Burns(R) losing to Tester(D) in MT by 3%
Talent(R) losing to McCaskill(D) by 3%
Allen(R) up on Webb(D) in VA by 4%
Kean(R) closing in NJ on Menendez(D), only down by 3% now
DeWine(R) getting hammered in OH by 8%

370 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:50:56am

It's not the nukes, it's the uranium...


There have been no confirmed reports of missing or stolen former-Soviet nuclear weapons, but there is ample evidence of a significant black market in nuclear materials. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has reported more than a hundred nuclear smuggling incidents since 1993, eighteen of which involved highly enriched uranium, the key ingredient in an atomic bomb and the most dangerous product on the nuclear black market.


LINK

371 righthanded  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:51:43am

TALK ABOUT A GIFT.. IS THIS AN OCTOBER SURPRISE?

IT LOOKS LIKE MOHMAMMED ATTA WAS TRAINED IN IRAQ BY SADDAM:

Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
By Con Coughlin
(Filed: 14/12/2003)

Iraq's coalition government claims that it has uncovered documentary proof that Mohammed Atta, the al-Qaeda mastermind of the September 11 attacks against the US, was trained in Baghdad by Abu Nidal, the notorious Palestinian terrorist.

Details of Atta's visit to the Iraqi capital in the summer of 2001, just weeks before he launched the most devastating terrorist attack in US history, are contained in a top secret memo written to Saddam Hussein, the then Iraqi president, by Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, the former head of the Iraqi Intelligence Service.

The handwritten memo, a copy of which has been obtained exclusively by the Telegraph, is dated July 1, 2001 and provides a short resume of a three-day "work programme" Atta had undertaken at Abu Nidal's base in Baghdad.

In the memo, Habbush reports that Atta "displayed extraordinary effort" and demonstrated his ability to lead the team that would be "responsible for attacking the targets that we have agreed to destroy".

The second part of the memo, which is headed "Niger Shipment", contains a report about an unspecified shipment - believed to be uranium - that it says has been transported to Iraq via Libya and Syria.

Although Iraqi officials refused to disclose how and where they had obtained the document, Dr Ayad Allawi, a member of Iraq's ruling seven-man Presidential Committee, said the document was genuine.

"We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," he said. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."

Although Atta is believed to have been resident in Florida in the summer of 2001, he is known to have used more than a dozen aliases, and intelligence experts believe he could easily have slipped out of the US to visit Iraq.

Abu Nidal, who was responsible for the failed assassination of the Israeli ambassador to London in 1982, was based in Baghdad for more than two decades.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

LOOKS LIKE IRAQ IS A PART OF THE WAR ON TERROR!

372 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:51:53am

Good Morning, Lizard Nation!

So I see that the Big Tuna gave Drew "Deer in the Headlights" Bledsoe the hook last night...

Alls I gots to say is thank the laaawd that Billecheck decided to stay with TB for the Super Bowl back in 02. The rest, as they say, is history.

373 righthanded  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:52:29am

TALK ABOUT A GIFT.. IS THIS AN OCTOBER SURPRISE?

IT LOOKS LIKE MOHMAMMED ATTA WAS TRAINED IN IRAQ BY SADDAM:

Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
By Con Coughlin
(Filed: 14/12/2003)

Iraq's coalition government claims that it has uncovered documentary proof that Mohammed Atta, the al-Qaeda mastermind of the September 11 attacks against the US, was trained in Baghdad by Abu Nidal, the notorious Palestinian terrorist.

Details of Atta's visit to the Iraqi capital in the summer of 2001, just weeks before he launched the most devastating terrorist attack in US history, are contained in a top secret memo written to Saddam Hussein, the then Iraqi president, by Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, the former head of the Iraqi Intelligence Service.

The handwritten memo, a copy of which has been obtained exclusively by the Telegraph, is dated July 1, 2001 and provides a short resume of a three-day "work programme" Atta had undertaken at Abu Nidal's base in Baghdad.

In the memo, Habbush reports that Atta "displayed extraordinary effort" and demonstrated his ability to lead the team that would be "responsible for attacking the targets that we have agreed to destroy".

The second part of the memo, which is headed "Niger Shipment", contains a report about an unspecified shipment - believed to be uranium - that it says has been transported to Iraq via Libya and Syria.

Although Iraqi officials refused to disclose how and where they had obtained the document, Dr Ayad Allawi, a member of Iraq's ruling seven-man Presidential Committee, said the document was genuine.

"We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," he said. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."

Although Atta is believed to have been resident in Florida in the summer of 2001, he is known to have used more than a dozen aliases, and intelligence experts believe he could easily have slipped out of the US to visit Iraq.

Abu Nidal, who was responsible for the failed assassination of the Israeli ambassador to London in 1982, was based in Baghdad for more than two decades.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

LOOKS LIKE IRAQ IS A PART OF THE WAR ON TERROR!

374 Junior  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:53:25am

Oops... that first link in #369 is supposed to say "Thanks to the POPE, Now We're Talkin'"

It's early, just took my first sips of coffee...

375 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:54:51am

#357 JammieWearingFool - Help! I don't get a newspaper delivered and haven't registerd for the Post; we lost Arrington for the YEAR? Any other serious injuries? How did Tiki and Eli do?
And yes, it's fucking colder down here (wind chill is 22 degrees) than it is up there!
Damn, I thought I moved to the SOUTH!

376 TMF  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:54:54am

#338 Geepers

Funny, I dont think I ever recall the NY Times referring to Sadaams murderous 300,000 people in mass graves rampant torture terror regime as a "disaster"

Yeah, only when we got there did it become a disaster.

Sadly, there are more than a few idiots (educated and not) who believe their bilious lies

377 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:55:27am

Corker should look into the sources of Ford's campaign money.

378 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:55:59am

BabbaZee (#361),

The polls suggest plummeting support for the war and deep discontent with the president and Congress. And the reason, it must be conceded, is similar to the reason in the Vietnam war. The US is now in a classic counter-insurgency war, just as it was in Vietnam. Its superior firepower is of no use in such a situation, just as carpet-bombing Vietnam and Cambodia couldn’t turn the Vietnamese population into allies of a foreign intervention.

Wow. Now that's some sting of logical fallacies Andrew's got going on there.

And at the end of the day they sit around slack jawed that their invisible pink unicorn theory didn't play out.

Andrew says:

Many of us who never lived through that nightmare [of Vietnam] shrugged it off.

So how exactly does that qualify you to make a valid assessment as to the comparative failure you see each to be? Moron.

379 Spiritualized  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:56:39am

The AP photographer that's been "kidnapped" is a whore for the Paleonazis:

Kidnapped AP Photographer Granted Access to Witness Terror Preparations in Past

(IsraelNN.com) AP photographer Emilio Morenatti, who was reported kidnapped Tuesday in Gaza, was trusted by PA terrorists who in the past offered him an inside view of Al-Aksa Brigades terrorists preparing for attacks against Israeli civilians and IDF soldiers.

Israellycool sums up best:

This is an obvious palestinian PR stunt. The palestinian "government" have a foreign press photographer/journalist kidnapped, and then "secure" his release. Upon release, the kidnapped subject thanks the palestinian government for their tireless efforts and expresses support for the palestinian cause. Forced conversion to Islam is an optional extra.

380 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:57:13am

#367 J.D.,

This is no longer about hawks and doves. It is about ostriches who bury their heads in the sand — and about those voters who are prepared to give a blank check to ostriches.

Another sane mind in a sea of lost causes. Sowell continues to be one of my two or three favorite journalists.

I will say this. On the outside chance the Repubs lose both houses of Congress, I am going to make it a point everyday to document every Dimocratic failure loud and clear. In otherwords, payback is hell and I'm going to make as many lib's life as miserable as possible - and I'm not going to be nice about it.

381 TMF  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:57:15am

righthanded

October 2003 surprise maybe- which is when that article is from

My guess is that that was looked into and not confirmed, or we'd be hearing about it (on Rush, but not in the MSM of course)

382 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:57:24am

This thread has broken down.
:(

Was it me?

383 American Jewess in Jerusalem  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 3:59:33am

I would love to see France's tourist industry collapse out the bottom. Does anyone have any information on whether their tourist traffic has been affected by all the violence?

384 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:01:38am

#378 Geepers

So how exactly does that qualify you to make a valid assessment as to the comparative failure you see each to be? Moron.


Hahahaaa that was almost verbatim my exact thought when reading that line.

385 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:03:10am

#383 American Jewess,

I would love to see France's tourist industry collapse out the bottom.

You're nicer than I am. There's my opinion of hairy armpits, Jacque Chirac, and cowardice.

386 cbinflux  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:05:43am

#377 mandy

You know something..?

387 Spiritualized  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:06:12am

Tourist numbers down in gay Paris after riots

Paris - The recent urban riots in France have dealt a blow to the country's important tourism sector, notably by scaring off United States tourists who would normally go to Paris for end-of-year festivities, industry groups have said.

The Christmas-New Year season was looking "clearly awful" because of the "negative image given to France with the recent events in the suburbs," said Michel Barraud, head of a tourist coach excursion company called Paris-Vision.

388 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:06:21am

#379 spiritualized:

You missed the best tidbits from that story:

Ghazi Hamad, spokesman for the Hamas-led Palestinian government, condemned the kidnapping, saying it "damages the reputation of the Palestinian people."

"The government will take all steps to ensure his release," Hamad said.

Fawzi Barhoum, a Hamas spokesman, said the kidnapping "contradicts our culture and our morals and our religion." He said the Islamic militant group called on the kidnappers "not to harm Emilio and release him immediately."

Damages the reputation of the Palestinian people? As opposed to the dozens of suicide bombings of restaurants, stores, buses, and markets?

The government will take the steps necessary to ensure his release? After a conversion and a good talking to because he didn't get Haniyeh's good side.

Contradicts the culture, morals, and religion? I spy taqiyah! If this was truly against their culture, morals, and religion, there wouldn't be suicide bombers, terrorists who kidnap journalists, and engage in mass casualty attacks to force submission to Islam.

389 akak  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:06:28am

spiritualized!

I saw AP and thought embedded Pally reporter...move on

390 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:06:38am

Mandy,

“Victory isn’t always about winning,” said Rep. Pelosi. “Those of us who went to college know that sometimes when the going gets tough, the tough drop out. Who among us hasn’t experienced the exhilaration of walking out of the registrar’s office after dropping a course you were failing. America deserves to have that feeling again.”

Is that quote a joke? Nancy Pelosi didn't really make an analogy comparing losing a war with dropping a college course, did she?

I've said it before, if you want Democratic poll numbers to plummet get Democratic "leaders" talking.

391 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:06:59am
392 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:07:32am

BabbaZee (#384),

"I know nothing about the subject."

An interesting appeal for authority isn't it?

393 TMF  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:07:35am

BabbaZee

Lets see, sully- in your mind less than 3,000 combat casualties is worse than 55,000 combat casualties?

Ohhh-kay

What a self-deluded, angry little man.


If the dimmies take over as a result of these grotesque distortions, (see e.g. "worst economy since Hoover, Michael J Fox bullshit over stem cells) lies (see eg: no ties b/t Iraq and terrorism, its Bush's fault NORKs have a nuke), hit-jobs and MSM criminal partisanship, then our country may well be lost.

394 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:08:50am

Oh look, righthanded's article on that is from 2003 too...

395 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:09:07am

BabbaZee
Mornin'Toots!
/did i get that in before the dreaded 400 comments?

396 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:09:49am

#358 BabbaZee Morning Babba - I've only got two pair of them and I'm already wearing both! LOL! Place was built for the usual mild weather - central air/heat from ceiling ducts - by the time the "hot" air gets to my head it's "warmish" and by the time it gets to my feet it's only slightly warmer than it is outside!
How are you doing today?

397 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:09:50am
October 24, 2006 -- FOR those who follow political news, there are now two kinds of time: Mainstream Media Time and Blog Time.

If your clock's set to Mainstream Media Time, you believe for a certainty that the Democrats are poised to win 20 to 40 seats in the House of Representatives, thereby taking control of that body for the first time in 12 years. You also think Democrats are on the cusp of winning six Senate seats to take control of that chamber as well.

Those of you on Mainstream Media Time believe the American people are fed up with Republicans, that GOP voters are depressed and won't turn out and Democrats are loaded for bear and will go to the polls even if five feet of snow fall on Election Day.

Your evidence is largely made up of poll data indicating wild discontent with Congress, with Democrats posing severe challenges to scores of Republican incumbents while Republicans are hardly nipping at any Democratic incumbents' heels.

If your clock is set to Blog Time, you believed all that at the start of last week. By last Thursday, however, those of you on Blog Time began to discern a change: Suddenly, things weren't quite so bad for Republicans or quite so great for Democrats.

Blog Timers adduced this not from major evidence, like big polls, but from small data points - trees rather than forests. ...

... If the bloggers get it right this time, this really will be yet another crisis point for Mainstream Media Time - a point at which their most loyal consumers will be compelled to wonder why they're bothering to pay attention to writers and editors whose sense of America is so completely out of whack. Especially if there is another force out there that ate the mainstream media's lunch.

If, however, the bloggers are getting it wrong, this will be the first major blow in their wildly successful rush this decade to dominate the way political news is made, reported and consumed.


BATTLING PREDICTIONS

398 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:10:28am

Morning lizards. How's things? What's new?

399 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:11:26am

393 TMF

Self deluded angry little man indeed!

GOD forbid that the Gramscian Whores should take power!

And even if they do...
It aint over till it's over.

400 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:12:04am

realwest,

Try the Star-Ledger sports at nj.com; no real registration. Plenty of stories there.

Anyway, yes Arrington tore his left Achilles and is gone for the year. He made two big plays and was having his finest outing in blue. Had a safety on Bledsoe and later deflected a pass on a flea-flicker that likely would have been a TD or long gain to the bigmouth Owens.

Osi Umenyiora was also injured with a hip flexor but may only miss a game or two. Tiki was hurt momentarily, but came back and didn't appear to have any lasting effects.

Manning had two TD passes, one a 50-yarder to Burress on the opening drive, another to Shockey in the third quarter. They picked off four passes, the last one run back 96 yards late in the game to wrap it up.

Bledsoe was yanked at halftime and Tony Romo does not appear to be the solution for the reeling Cowboys.

401 cbinflux  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:13:09am

Iranians told to beat West by making more babies just to terrorize us
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Iranians were today instructed to produce more babies as part of their nation's struggle against the West.

The Islamic state's hard-line president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said he wanted the country's 70 million strong population to almost double in an effort to ensure the country's "dominance".

Iran, named by President Bush as one of the three "Axis of Evil" powers and subject to intense pressure over its alleged nuclear weapons programme, has previously been held up by the United Nations as an example of how to control a burgeoning population.

Yet today Mr Ahmadinejad told a meeting of government ministers and deputies that Iran could use its oil wealth to expand its population by another 50 million.

Mr Ahmadinejad, a father of three, said that he wanted to overturn the current policy that discourages Iranian couples from having more than two children.

He said: "Western countries have problems, and since they have a negative population growth, they are worried and scared that if our population grows we may dominate them."

He added: "I am against saying that two children are enough. Our country has a lot of capacity. It has the capacity for many children to grow in it. Iran even has the capacity for 120 million people."

The president also suggested that he was ready to decrease the working hours of married women or women with children to make it easier for them to have more children. He said he was not against women working but believes they can work part-time while being paid full-time to allow them to spend more time with their children.

His appeal for a baby boom has alarmed critics who say the country would not be able to cope. Despite Iran’s oil wealth, many ordinary people need several jobs to make ends meet. Inflation officially stands at 10 per cent but is thought to be twice that high while unemployment, officially around 12 per cent, is probably twice as high among young people.

The reformist newspaper Etemad-e-Melli said that his remarks were "ill-considered".

It added: "He stresses the necessity of population growth and the triumph of Iran over western governments, ignoring the fact that what leads to such triumph is not population size but knowledge, technology, wealth, welfare and security."

One Iranian businessman said: "This guy (Ahmadinejad) says a lot of things without thinking them through." An economist added that Mr Ahmadinejad’s call was a publicity-seeking gimmick to distract attention from the government’s economic failures.

402 American Jewess in Jerusalem  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:13:15am

#322 daughter of patriots

Excuse me? The Muslim pigs set a 15 year old boy on fire after stabbing him multiple times, and one of them can apply for parole in 17 years and the other one only gets a 5 year sentence?

Bye bye, Britain. You be dead.

403 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:13:44am

#395 idigscotch&scotchburiesme
Hanta Yo, Chief Longname


#396 realwest
I used to be Warmish till the conversion, LOL!

#392 Geepers
Sully must be Gordon. Love me, daddy!

404 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:13:48am

Dirk Diggler (#390),

It's Scrappleface.

405 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:15:36am

#401 cbinflux

Rabbi Khahne used to tell a story of how one of the most prominent Imams in all of the Umaah told him:

We will birth you out of existence (Israel) and Europe too. Give us 30 years.

That was in 1970 or so.

406 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:16:20am

#400 JammieWearingFool - Thanks my friend am going there now.

407 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:16:30am

Morning galloping granny

408 Kenneth  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:16:37am

#361 BabbaZee

Good moring BZ,

Re: Look at THIS shit: Andrew Sullivan

So Sully has discovered, that although the Iraq War bares no resemblance to the Vietnam War in any military or ideological sense, the "enemy" does want the US to lose, and is capable of manipulating the media, & therefore they are the same, only worse.

What an insightful mind, that Sullivan has: Our enemy wants us to lose! Wow, why didn't Bush see that coming?

409 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:17:26am

At PajamasMedia...ZUCKER UNCENSORED - THE TAXMAN AD
Funny.

410 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:19:45am

realwest,

Good piece here.

Six sacks. Four interceptions. Blown assignments. There was LaVar Arrington, blasting through the line of scrimmage untouched with the Cowboys pinned on the 1-yard line, dragging down Bledsoe in the end zone for a safety. This was the $35 million linebacker's finest -- and, as it cruelly turned out after his torn Achilles' tendon later in the first half, final -- moment with the franchise this season.

The Cowboys didn't block Arrington on that play, just like they couldn't block Michael Strahan on another busted play in the first half, or rookie Mathias Kiwanuka on the moment that ended any ideas of a comeback.

This time, Kiwanuka buried Romo as he threw a pass toward nobody but Giants defensive linemen, with big Fred Robbins picking it off. "It's a long season," Romo said. "You don't have to put us in the cellar just yet. This team has a lot of heart. We'll turn this around."

It's up to Parcells to make that happen, and he has more working against him than with him. There is Owens, of course, that time bomb still very much ticking, jawing at Bledsoe on the sideline and making sure he kept that forced grin on his face long enough for the ESPN cameras to catch him.

Parcells used the phrase "it's been interesting" to describe coaching Owens, but with the team set for adversity, the league might soon get the moment it's been awaiting since he signed in Dallas -- the first Tuna-T.O. dust-up. Owens is the last player you want on your side in a rough spot, and now the Cowboys have hit one.

Now the old coach has the headaches with T.O., a quarterback controversy and an offensive line that can't block, all while the Giants are poised to start pulling away. Yes, things change with every snap in the NFL, but if this is indeed his final season, it could be a long and trying one for Parcells.

"They outplayed us, they outcoached us, they out-everything-ed us," Parcells said. "Poor performance. I don't know how else I can say it."

He didn't have to say more. The look on his face said everything.

411 cbinflux  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:19:51am

#405 bz
The plan is working, Europe first. They will use democracy (the vote) to kill us and it.

God save us from The Planet of the (6th Century) Apes.

412 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:20:00am
#396 realwest

#358 BabbaZee Morning Babba - I've only got two pair of them and I'm already wearing both! LOL! Place was built for the usual mild weather - central air/heat from ceiling ducts - by the time the "hot" air gets to my head it's "warmish" and by the time it gets to my feet it's only slightly warmer than it is outside!
How are you doing today?

Well THAT was some smart engineer that designed that. "Hot air rises" is elementary school chemistry, LOL.

One thing you might do, realwest, is cover the inside of your windows in plastic. You can buy a whole roll of plastic or just use clear trash bags if your windows are small enough. Masking tape. That helps a lot (I once lived in a house here in New England that had a very leaky bay window - like living in a wind tunnel!)

Another thing you can do is go get yourself a space heater. Honeywell makes a very nice one that allows you to choose how much heat you want it to put out. You can also use it just as a fan. Not very expensive, but very reliable and safe - doesn't cost all outdoors to run either.

If you have ceiling fans, reverse the blades and then keep them running. That will push the heat down towards the floor.

Bake! Having the oven on warms up a lot of the house.

Socks - they say if you keep your head and feet warm the rest of you won't feel the cold. Pretty true.

413 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:22:29am

Sorry if this is a repeat...

Duncan Hunter bitchslaps Wolf Blitzer over CNN's airing of Sniper Video

Snippets:

Wolf Blitzer interviewed Hunter, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, and CNN military analyst Gen. David Grange, but if the general was brought in to debate Hunter, it backfired. Grange ended up agreeing with Hunter that the U.S. media helps the insurgents: "they are winning the information warfare front. You can argue that our -- our -- the media in the United States supports that somewhat."

Hunter argued that the people have never been more able to go find images of gruesome death in an American war: "Well, first, Wolf, the American people aren't made out of cotton candy. They understand, when you see 2,791 battlefield deaths, that people are killed, and they are killed in bad ways. This is the first generation of Americans that could actually go online and watch an American be decapitated, have his head cut off by al-Zarqawi, as they watch. So, I would say that, contrary to what you are saying, this is a war in which more brutality is shown than probably any other.

"But the point is that -- that this one killing of one American doesn't really tell any statistic. Of -- of the people killed in Iraq, 524 of our Americans have been killed in accidents, mainly automobile accidents. Now, you don't show automobile accidents, because it's not sexy. It's not violent. It doesn't draw a big audience. Showing the impact of a single bullet, a single shooting doesn't tell you anything. If you isolated one American going down on Omaha Beach at Normandy, what would that tell the American public?"

Ziiing!

414 SaneInMN  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:22:31am

Anytime a turd like Gordon comes over and starts fuming about how W is responsible for the world not comming together against terrorism, mention this...

From the Jawa Report...

[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

The World Gave Us Four DaysNot including the British, of course, who have, for the most part, been staunch allies. The rest of the world gave us four days of support following the al Qaeda terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. It was a dead heat between the French and the Russians over who would squirt in their pants first.

This story from the September 15, 2001 issue of the Guardian documents the cowardice (and, as we learned later, the Europeans and Russians were motivated by venality as well) and how Tony Blair immediately rose to meet the historic challenge:

Tony Blair is unequivocal that Britain should participate fully in the expected US military action. He told a packed Commons, recalled to emergency session yesterday: "Murder of British people in New York is no different in nature from their murder in the heart of Britain itself. In the most direct sense, therefore, we have not just an interest, but an obligation to bring those responsible to account."

But France signalled that it would not automatically support military action. "Our humane, political and functional solidarity [with the US] does not deprive us of our sovereignty and freedom to make up our own minds," the French prime minister, Lionel Jospin, maintained. [spoken like a true, mincing nancyboy. Enjoy your Islamist riots while Paris burns, pussies.-Bluto]

Russia, which initially offered enthusiastic support, was adamant that it would not participate in any "revenge'' attacks. The Russian defence minister, Sergei Ivanov, said there was no chance of the US being allowed to launch attacks from the former Soviet republic. [The Russians found out what was what when Islamists butchered their children in Beslan three years later.-Bluto]

One of the reasons that several European foreign ministries are growing anxious is that the possibility is gaining credibility of a second Gulf war against Iraq to finish off the job begun in 1991 by toppling the Iraqi president, Saddam Hussein.

Of course, the UN oil for food scandal explained all too clearly why these greedy bastards were "growing anxious."

Anyway, I just thought you might like to be reminded that "Nous Sommes Tous les Américains" (We Are All Americans) lasted exactly four days.

415 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:22:35am
Sully has discovered, that although the Iraq War bares no resemblance to the Vietnam War in any military or ideological sense, the "enemy" does want the US to lose, and is capable of manipulating the media, & therefore they are the same, only worse.

What an insightful mind, that Sullivan has: Our enemy wants us to lose! Wow, why didn't Bush see that coming?

Is it pledge week yet over at The Daily Squish?

416 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:22:45am

#408 Kenneth

Our enemy wants us to lose! Wow, why didn't Bush see that coming?

LOL
Good Morning

Sully must have a mind like a steel sieve to keep coming up with brilliant insights of that caliber!

417 Manzanita and Sage  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:23:05am

OT - Quick question why would the Palestinians kidnap an AP photographer, Emilio Morenatti? Isn't that like biting the hand that feeds you?

This incident is being reported on Fox's website.

I do hope he is found safe and sound, but I don't get the target.

418 3 wood  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:23:13am

#375 realwest

Help! I don't get a newspaper delivered and haven't registerd for the Post; we lost Arrington for the YEAR? Any other serious injuries? How did Tiki and Eli do?

Arrington's left achilles is toast.

Tiki got hit pretty hard, I think some Cowboys were trying to help him retire immediately. But he carried 27 times for 114 yards, a 4.2 average. Manning threw 12/26 vor 189. 2 td's, 1 pick and 2 sacks. Stranahan owned the Dallas O-line. They got 6 sacks and 4 picks on the 2 statues called Dallas QB's.

419 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:25:30am

#411 cbinflux
I know it. He knew it.
The Islamic Beast
rides the Gramscian Whore
straight into the Caliph fate.
It's why they killed him first.


Jihad in America:
The Killing of Rabbi Kahane

420 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:26:18am

#417 Manzanita and Sage
It's a propaganda set up.
Most of these "journalist kidnapping" are agit-prop ops.

421 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:27:06am

I know zero about football but I will say this, Tiki is mmm mmm good.

422 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:27:38am

And this is the best part:


Blitzer tried to wrap the segment up by suggesting it’s beyond the pale for a congressman to question the credibility or patriotism of CNN: "In your letter, you suggest that CNN reporters no longer be allowed to be embedded with U.S. military forces in Iraq. We have several of our reporters all the time embedded, literally risking their lives, very courageous reporters, whether Michael Ware. John Roberts is embedded with the U.S. Army in Iraq right now. And -- and we have -- we have -- we have been doing that for three-and-a-half years. Are you at least open to this notion that good people, like you and General Grange, can disagree on this, without questioning the -- the credibility, the patriotism of CNN?

Hunter replied: "I think the question I asked when I saw this, Wolf, is, does CNN want America to win this thing? And, if I was a platoon leader there, as I once was, and I had a -- and I had a news organization which had shown, had -- had taken film from the enemy, showing them killing one of my soldiers, and they asked if they could be embedded in my platoon, my answer would be no.

"I go back to the -- to the -- the days of guys like Joe Rosenthal, who filmed the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima, and Ernie Pyle, who was a soldier's reporter, the guys who were on our side -- even though they reported the rough and the tough of the war, they were on our side. You can't be on both sides. And I would say, if I was that platoon leader, I would say, absolutely not. Take CNN out of there. You can't be on both sides.

Blitzer concluded: "I will give you a -- just a quick second to wrap it up, General Grange."

Grange agreed with Hunter: "Well, as a platoon leader in Vietnam, I would have said the same thing. I agree with you on that -- or even in Iraq today. My -- my concern is the power of information warfare, and how they use it. And I -- and I look at opportunities that we can turn around on the enemy, because they are winning the information warfare front. You can argue that our -- our -- the media in the United States supports that somewhat."

423 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:27:38am

#410 JammieWearingFool - Thanks my friend! Wished I'd watched that game now. Damnit. But seriously thanks for the "summary" and the links!
Now if we only had anohter bye week coming up...!

424 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:27:45am

loppyd,

Happy 20th Anniversary tomorrow

It's seared, seared into my memory.

425 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:27:52am

The daily squish, LOL

hey where'dyallgo?

426 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:29:51am

VDH.
Read the whole thing.

...Stung by the dishonesty of “body counts” in Vietnam, and worried that in postmodern warfare, Westerners are not only not supposed to die, but also should not kill, our own forces release no figures on how many enemy terrorists they have killed. The result is that the narrative of almost all the mayhem coming out of Iraq is bifurcated into either how many Americans were killed, or how many “Iraqis” perished—a sure method to convince the reader that the entire enterprise is a complete disaster in which we are mere sitting ducks, whose presence alone leads to Iraqis dropping dead like flies.

Where does all this lead? Not where most expect. The Left thinks that the “fiasco” in Iraq will bring a repudiation of George Bush, and lead to its return to power. Perhaps. But more likely it will bring a return of realpolitik to American foreign policy, in which no action abroad is allowable (so much for the liberals’ project of saving Darfur), and our diplomacy is predicated only on stability abroad. The idealism of trying to birth consensual government will be discredited; but with its demise also ends any attention to Arab moderates, who whined for years about our support for the House of Saud, Pakistani generals, Gulf autocrats, or our neglect of the mayhem wrought by Islamists in Afghanistan. We know now that when the United States tries to spend blood and treasure in Afghanistan and Iraq that it will be slandered as naïve or imperialistic.

...


More Rubble, Less Trouble?

427 Kenneth  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:30:09am

Running from Iraq
Don't imagine it will reduce the jihadist threat.
by Reuel Marc Gerecht

An excellent thoughtful essay on the costs of quitting Iraq,

The Iraqi Sunni community has no grand ayatollahs and clerical structure of the Shiite kind to moderate and block its violent young men. Assuming the Shiites don't conquer the Sunni triangle, the Sunni community by itself will not spare us the sight of triumphant jihadists taking over American bases and planting their flags for all to see, courtesy of Al Jazeera's satellite coverage. Try to recall an image of the mujahedeen winning in Afghanistan in 1989. You can't--there were few photographs of that distant war. But every man, woman, and child in the Muslim world will be flooded with vivid, lasting images of America's flight from Iraq.

428 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:31:36am

#412 galloping granny - THANKS! This is a really nice apartment complex (when it's not freezing) and we're in a ground floor (reale estate brokereze "garden") apartment - think I'll go for the space heaters!

429 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:32:06am

Oh dear, get ready for it:

Another expeditionary strike group will imminently enter the Persian Gulf where it will join the Enterprise, Eisenhower and Iwo Jima strike groups.

Add to this a "maritime interdiction exercise" scheduled for October 31st

That totals to the means, motive and opportunity for the biggest war crime since the last unprovoked invasion by these war criminals.

Or so says card carrying member of the Loon Party, LondonYank

430 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:32:26am

Morning Babba -

#405 BabbaZee 10/24/2006 06:15AM PDT

#401 cbinflux

Rabbi Khahne used to tell a story of how one of the most prominent Imams in all of the Umaah told him:

We will birth you out of existence (Israel) and Europe too. Give us 30 years.

That was in 1970 or so.

Well then - they have already failed in the endeavor. And there are a whole bunch of factors that the islamic world ignores:

* many of their children (worldwide) are born into abject poverty

* women in the islamic world do not always receive proper medical care during pregancy, birth, postpartum - and some of them none at all

*women in most islamic societies are expected to perform as brood mare, birth 8, 10 or more children. Not good for women that are already undernourished - or the children they carry.

* the islamic world has taken to viewing vaccinations as an imperlialist Jewish plot to kill them all. They are not having their children vaccinated.

* for various reasons, there is a fairly substantial deviation in the ratio of women to men throughout much of the islamic world. Oddly enough, rather than see that they are deficient, they view our 1:1 ratio as "having an excess of women."

That's one threat I would not worry about just yet.

431 hayseed  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:32:59am

good morning all from a cloudy cool sw ohio

432 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:33:24am

from the article:

'Produced by an individual identified as “Abu Osama” (whose real identity is unknown), it calls on the Muslims to wage jihad against the “Crusaders.”'

Once again, in order to perpetuate hatred for christians, one must go back to something that happened hundreds and hundreds of years ago.

How far back do we need to go to find evil in islam? why, not BACK... but forward... to the end of the article/video:

"The video then shows a scene in which a man is beheaded. This is followed by another beheading, even more grisly, in which the severed head is waved in the air."

now time to say something that is too often unsaid:

Remember, non-christian Americans... the Christian is your greatest friend.

The next time you are going to verbally snipe a christian (Christians are nazis, etc), be silent.

The next time you are going to mock a christian (Christians are just a bunch of do-good prudes), perhaps compliment them instead.

verbally sniping, hating or mocking christians only places you in company with islam. and YOU, as much as we, are their targets to convert or kill.

Remember, while a christian will think you're going to hell, and pray for you...

a muslim, like the one who made this video, will think you're going to hell and wish (and try) to send you there.

433 ggt  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:33:52am

Good Morning Lizards! It is bright and brisk in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicago.

Can't stay on-line this am. Hope you-all are well.

434 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:34:18am

Babba Zee,

Tiki also has a twin brother who plays for Tampa. Tiki is married to a very energetic Korean-American girl. I've sat behind her at a couple of games.

3 wood--It appears the Nov. 12 Giants-Bears game will indeed be moved to primetime. Now that some teams are stumbling (Philly, Seattle), this shapes up to be a huge game, assuming they both win out until then. But there are many strong teams in the NFC right now.

NYG will be pretty heavy favorites the next two weeks and need to avoid a letdown. I hope they realize there's a chance to do some good things this year.

435 3 wood  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:37:05am

#417 M & S

I do hope he is found safe and sound, but I don't get the target.

I predict he will be released in a day or two in perfect health, extolling the kindness and loving care extended to him by his buddies, er.. I mean his "captors".

436 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:37:26am

#422 loppyd

Grange agreed with Hunter: "Well, as a platoon leader in Vietnam, I would have said the same thing. I agree with you on that -- or even in Iraq today. My -- my concern is the power of information warfare, and how they use it. And I -- and I look at opportunities that we can turn around on the enemy, because they are winning the information warfare front. You can argue that our -- our -- the media in the United States supports that somewhat."

WOW! I guess a couple of old generals really laid Wolf (his name is SO apt1) right out in lavendar and old lace. Good for them for telling it like it is!

437 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:38:25am

#413 {loppyd} - Thanks for that report! I'd like to have more than bitch slapped ALL of CNN but...
Anyway, do you know if there is gonna be a transcript of the interview?
Oh, and how are you this fine winter autumn day in Mass.?!

438 DesertSage  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:39:21am

Even though Nancy Pelosi and the Dems will try to raise taxes, the good news is President Bush still has the power of veto.

The American people will not stand for the ecomomy going down the toilet.

Two years of Lefty control of congress will be enough of a wake up call for the American people to see the error of hiring the Demonrats...

439 Junior  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:40:16am

#434 JammieWearingFool
But there are many strong teams in the NFC right now.

It doesn't matter, AFC will win again. Any of the top teams in the AFC could beat any of the top teams in the NFC (IMHO). Denver, Baltimore, New England, Indi, Cinci and even SD.

There isn't one NFC team better than any of those 6.

Wait, Chicago would be the only team with a chance... a chance... and that's b/c of their defense.

I'll tell you what, a Denver vs. Chicago SuperBowl would be a nice 6-3 doozy. Those two defenses are unbelievable.

441 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:42:57am

#430 galloping granny


* many of their children (worldwide) are born into abject poverty

* women in the islamic world do not always receive proper medical care during pregancy, birth, postpartum - and some of them none at all

*women in most islamic societies are expected to perform as brood mare, birth 8, 10 or more children. Not good for women that are already undernourished - or the children they carry.

* the islamic world has taken to viewing vaccinations as an imperlialist Jewish plot to kill them all. They are not having their children vaccinated.

* for various reasons, there is a fairly substantial deviation in the ratio of women to men throughout much of the islamic world. Oddly enough, rather than see that they are deficient, they view our 1:1 ratio as "having an excess of women."

They don't care about any of that,
only we care about things like that,
they are using their wombs like bombs

They are interested in sheer numbers not the condition of those numbers because they intend for the majority of those numbers to be shahid - martyrs - before they are ever born.

The Human wave, like Iran and Iraq used against each other during their war...

They are born to be cannon fodder.
And women mean absolutely zero in Islam except that they can carry these bombs.

442 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:43:38am

#425 BabbaZee

I'm here, just catching up..Wasssup?

Is the Spleen of Zion enjoying her morning?

443 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:44:05am

#434 JammieWearingFool

Babba Zee,

Tiki also has a twin brother who plays for Tampa. Tiki is married to a very energetic Korean-American girl. I've sat behind her at a couple of games.

There's TWO of them?
GOD IS great!

444 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:44:29am

Poll on Fox -

Catch 'Your World' at 4 p.m. ET for more on this topic:
What impact on the economy would a Democratic sweep on Election Day have?

a. Positive
(9%)
5,212

b. Negative
(84%)

45,535

c. No impact
(5%)
2,613

d. Don't know
(2%)
1,084

54,444 total votes

445 stranded conservative  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:44:29am

Another Eid carol from CNN:

Slashing through the foes,
Infidels and such,
Fall upon their necks,
till blood pours all so much

Never mind that we
would be the first to go
as long as we can see
that Bush is overthrown

Oh, it's ok, it's just fine,
we don't mind a bit,
Can't you see we're CNN,
and honor ain't worth spit,

It's ok, it's just fine,
we don't mind a bit,
Can't you see we're CNN,
and honor, ain't, worth, spit!

446 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:44:39am

WriterMOM!

Oh Great Irritable Bowel of Zion, how goes the Jewhad?

447 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:44:43am
448 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:45:09am

realwest,

For future reference, a couple other good sites are here and here. They have some video clips, but all you need to do is put on ESPN to see the damage.

449 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:45:43am

The Europeanization of the Democratic Party

Ronald Reagan famous declaration that he “did not leave the Democratic Party. It left me” can be made more contemporary. The Democratic Party has not only left behind many of its old principles and ideals, it now seems to be in the process of losing its moorings and leaving America entirely. We are witnessing the Europeanization of the Democratic Party, with potentially dire implications for one of the most reliable and loyal group of supporters of the Democratic Party: America’s Jewish community.


G'Mornin'

450 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:46:12am

#446 BabbaZee

A pox, a hex and INFRARED HAIR BEAMS TURNED UP TO 11 on my co-worker who cheerfully shouted from a nearby cubicle OOOH IT'S EID TODAY.

So what!?

451 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:46:34am

Good morning LGF Friends! Brrr it's cold here on the Wisconsin -Illinois border. And my furnace does not seem to be working. It blows air, but it's not hot air, which is what I was actually looking for. I think my pilot light may be out, but I can't find it. So I have my oven on. Brrr

Other than that I'm good - how 'bout you'uns? :)

452 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:48:22am

#450 WriterMom

Here give her my EiD blessing:

May the fleas of one thousand camels infest her hairy dark portions. May a hirsute odiferous Imam be summoned to extract her uterine djinns.

453 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:48:45am

OK-Tout ensemble! Repetez apres moi:

ZEES EES NOT AN EENTIFADA, NON NON!

454 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:49:03am

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

VALERIE PLAME, JOE WILSON READY TO "QUIT" WASHINGTON

455 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:49:05am

morning hayseed and mamma

456 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:49:10am

*sigh*

457 3 wood  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:49:57am

#434 Jammie

It appears the Nov. 12 Giants-Bears game will indeed be moved to primetime. Now that some teams are stumbling (Philly, Seattle), this shapes up to be a huge game, assuming they both win out until then. But there are many strong teams in the NFC right now.

NYG will be pretty heavy favorites the next two weeks and need to avoid a letdown. I hope they realize there's a chance to do some good things this year.

All you have to do to beat the Bears is blitz Grossman a few times, he panicks and throws it into triple coverage. Then they can't score offensively and the defense can't do it all.

458 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:50:28am

#452 BabbaZee

May the fleas of one thousand camels infest her hairy dark portions. May a hirsute odiferous Imam be summoned to extract her uterine djinns.

Contact Hallmark immediately. You should be writing greeting cards for a living. :)

459 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:51:41am

#452 BabbaZee

What's your point?

:P


I would add, may the combined sweat of 10,000 niqab wearers be the perfume that graces your days and may you enjoy the highest Islamic standards of male-female relationships for all eternity, particularly where your 'honour' is concerned.

460 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:51:47am

Junior, it may be early, but can I have some of what you're smoking? Baltimore and Cincinnati are better than anyone in the NFC? Keep dreaming.

It doesn't matter, AFC will win again. Any of the top teams in the AFC could beat any of the top teams in the NFC (IMHO). Denver, Baltimore, New England, Indi, Cinci and even SD.

461 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:51:55am

#453 WriterMom
It's the Frenchifada

462 Roger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:52:10am

#40 shibumi

Also... the Crusaders of yore were not polytheists.

According to islamic teaching and the koran, the Crusaders of yore were polytheists if they believed the Trinity concept. The koran describes the disciples of Jesus of the Gospels as the first unbelievers in allah by this form of polytheism. Make no mistake about what the inscriptions on the Dome of the Rock are all about.

463 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:52:49am

JammieWearingFool

Good Morning, Jammie!

Some wounds never heal...

464 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:52:49am

#429 Geepers
I thought they were going to try get their shit together over there. Gullible Kossacks make asses of themselves. is working it's way off the rec list to make room for more hysteria and conspiracy theories.

465 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:52:56am

#452 BabbaZee

Actually, come to think of it-there are these fantastic ZIONIST ISRAELI mini endoscopy camera pills that might also be useful in your curse.

466 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:53:29am

Good morning felloe Liozards from a ch8illy and blustery NYC... Feels like Winter and the morning sky sure said Winter...

I've receoverd from the devastating loss my beloved New York Metropolitans suffered at the hands of the Red Birds and will not dicuss them further until April...

So, nothing going on in the World, eh? No war, lots of peace love and happiness!

Love my Senatorial candidates assessment of Shrillary... She was ugly... WOW... At least he didn't call her a lesbian, or is that still coming?

467 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:54:04am

#431 hayseed

Good morning! I want to thank you again for that beautiful song you sent my way over the weekend. I spoke to Little Winger yesterday and he was just about to grab a laptop and listen to it. I told him how much support he gets from people like you here at LGF, and he was quite humbled.

Thank you. :)

468 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:54:11am

#461 BabbaZee

Mais, non!

469 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:54:44am

From one of my son's college buddies...Impeach Bush or Fight Terrorism?

by Jason D. Fodeman

Do not be sidetracked by the latest “October surprise.” The bottom line on the 2006 election is whether the American people will vote to support the aggressive pursuit of terrorists across the world or succumb to the demagogues who want to direct energy, resources and security to their ultimate goal of impeaching President Bush. To put control of Congress in the hands of the “terrorism be damned, it’s time to get even” crowd could result in a catastrophe for this nation. Despite years of conflict in which survival of the civilized world is the prize, thanks to liberals and their media enablers many in the public think this war is optional. ...
470 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:55:24am

loppyd,

VALERIE PLAME, JOE WILSON READY TO "QUIT" WASHINGTON

Your link caused me to unleashed a yawn so hellacious that I think I pulled a muscle in my neck.

I hope you're happy.

471 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:55:24am

#460 JammieWearingFool

Junior, it may be early, but can I have some of what you're smoking?

Oh me too, me too!
~~~


Mamma,

Hallmark doesnt want me...!

I once tried to market "Unfortunate Cookies"
with fortunes in them that said all sorts of insane things. Also sick cards like "congratulations on your divorce" and "Congratulations on your loss, the old rat bastid finally went down for the dirt nap, Condole you, my ass, lets drink"
Things like that.
No one wanted them, LOL!

472 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:55:55am

{realwest}

Sorry your freezing your tushie off down south!

It's kind of a dreary morning here in MA. I've already been to the airport and back and made it to the office at 8:30.

I will be in need of a Babba [CLUNK] Nap later.

473 Rune  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:56:41am

Yeah ok. So Crusader by Saxon isn't the absolute pinnacle of western music tradition – but hey Os-dude, no reason to get your burka all in a twist over that. Don't you have some goats to know in a biblical way anyway or some women to smack around a bit? - or one of all those fun things you do when bored...

Crusader, Crusader, please take me with you
The battle lies far to the East
Crusader, Crusader, don't leave me alone
I want to ride out on your Quest

I'm waiting, I'm waiting, to stand by your side
To fight with you over the sea
The're calling, they're calling, I have to be there
The Holy Land has to be free

Fight the good fight (*)
Believe what is right
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, Lord of the Realm

We're marching, we're marching to a land far from home
No-one can say who'll return
For Christendom's sake, we'll take our revenge
On the pagan from out of the East

We Christians are coming, with swords held on high
United by Faith and the cause
The Saracen heathen will soon taste our steel
Our standards will rise 'cross the land

(Repeat *)

To battle, to battle, the Saracen hordes
We follow the warrior king
Onward, ride onward, into the fight
We carry the sign of the cross

Warlords of England, Knights of the Realm
Spilling their blood in the sand
Crusader, Crusader, the legend is born
The future will honour your deeds
(Repeat *)

Saxson, Crusader

474 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:56:48am

For anyone who needs a blessing, or wants to pass one along, here is the song hayseed sent me.

"Somebody's Praying" by Ricky Skaggs

475 Junior  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:57:29am

#460 JammieWearingFool
Junior, it may be early, but can I have some of what you're smoking?


No, I'm almost out.

OK, delete those two teams. My main point is the strength of the AFC. The NFC, overall, is weak (comparably). MHO

I'd love to see a Denver/Chicago SB personally.

476 shimra  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:58:11am

Geez, I thought holidays meant overeating and falling asleep bloated on the couch. But hey, that's just me.

477 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:58:36am

galloping granny

The beauty of it is the general was there to debate Hunter but ended up siding with him. Wolfie must have had his panties in a twist!

478 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:59:24am

Madrid (CNA) -- The Spanish daily La Razon is denouncing a Catholic publishing company that has agreed to publish text books for Islamic religion classes that will be offered in public schools in Spain. The Santa Maria Foundation, which is operated by the Marianist religious order, has assumed the project of publishing Islamic text books through its publishing group "SM," with the support of the Union of Islamic Communities of Spain (UCIDE -- Spanish abbreviation). The first textbook, which has been released to reporters, is called, "Discovering Islam."...

According to reporter Alex Navajas of La Razon, "In countries like Saudi Arabia or the Sudan, if you are caught with a Bible, you are sentenced to death…Surely the Islamists in Spain are not as fanatical as the Saudis or the Sudanese. But that's not what this is about. The problem is that SM, whose 'identity is inspired by Christian values'," has fallen prey to "the most severe form of relativism and syncretism."

"That is, there is no difference between promoting the Christian faith or the Islamic faith because, in the end, all religious are equal since all of them lead to God. So, let them publish the Book of Mormon, which is just nonsense, or come to an agreement with the Jehovah's Witnesses, who own one of the most powerful publishing companies in the world," Navajas said.
[Link: www.aina.org...]

479 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:59:30am

#471 BabbaZee

I once tried to market "Unfortunate Cookies"
with fortunes in them that said all sorts of insane things. Also sick cards like "congratulations on your divorce" and "Congratulations on your loss, the old rat bastid finally went down for the dirt nap, Condole you, my ass, lets drink"
Things like that.
No one wanted them, LOL!

Are you kidding me?!? I would have bought tons of those cards, just for my ex alone!

Corporate thinking! Bah!

480 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 4:59:31am

Loppy I'm like Ahab in Moby Dick:

"I don't fall asleep, I die."

go go go go go go [CLUNK]

481 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:00:32am

#479 mama winger
I figure the Lord wants to keep me poor to preserve my good nature, LOL!

482 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:00:41am

that your should be you're

And it's one of my biggest pet peeves...

Oh the shame!

483 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:01:14am
#441 BabbaZee 10/24/2006 06:42AM PDT

#430 galloping granny


* many of their children (worldwide) are born into abject poverty

* women in the islamic world do not always receive proper medical care during pregancy, birth, postpartum - and some of them none at all

*women in most islamic societies are expected to perform as brood mare, birth 8, 10 or more children. Not good for women that are already undernourished - or the children they carry.

* the islamic world has taken to viewing vaccinations as an imperlialist Jewish plot to kill them all. They are not having their children vaccinated.

* for various reasons, there is a fairly substantial deviation in the ratio of women to men throughout much of the islamic world. Oddly enough, rather than see that they are deficient, they view our 1:1 ratio as "having an excess of women."

They don't care about any of that,
only we care about things like that,
they are using their wombs like bombs

They are interested in sheer numbers not the condition of those numbers because they intend for the majority of those numbers to be shahid - martyrs - before they are ever born.

The Human wave, like Iran and Iraq used against each other during their war...

They are born to be cannon fodder.
And women mean absolutely zero in Islam except that they can carry these bombs.

I agree with you BabbaZee about why these children are being born. However, as much as the PC crowd would like us to believe otherwise, all children are not born equal.

Lots of those kids are going to die long before they are old enough to chase a tank throwing stones or sneak into a crowd with a bomb. Just because of their life circumstances. Children born to mothers who have multiple births in quick succession without adequate nutrition or medical care are far and away more susceptible to anything that comes down the pike and die in much larger numbers.

This huge population with little or no productivity/economy except oil means that much of the muslim world is ripe for famine. They cannot, will not or simply do not out of sheer laziness, produce enough food to feed even themselves.

They are refusing to have their children immunized in big swathes of the muslim world. That is very important. The muslim world is home to a number of diseases that have long vanished from the US - if they were ever here. Typhus, cholera, various and sundry "fevers," malaria --- all endemic to much of the moslem world. And they still have the usual stuff - measeles, mumps, tetanus, diptheria. We saw last year the havoc wrought in our own midwest among a group of people that had not been immunized. Unimmunized children that live in poverty in crowded and often dirty conditions are far more susceptible.


Huge chunks of the African population are infected with AIDS - and that includes the moslem population of Africa. The absolute #1 key to reducing or eliminating AIDS is monogamy. Not multiple marriages. Not "temporary" marriages. Monogamy, preferably life-long monogamy. "Monogamy" is only an obligation for women. It does not matter how monogamous a woman is if her mate is not monogamous.

In other words, they have well and truly set themselves up for judgement by the hand of G_d by way of famine & disease.

484 stranded conservative  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:01:49am

Ahmed, the jihad wannabe,(wannabe)
had a very shiny gun, (lots of polishing)
and if you ever saw it,(saw it)
you would turn around and run, (like the French)

all of the other jihadis, (Hamas)
used to laugh and call him names,(like goat-boy)
they never let poor Ahmed (Ahmed)
join in their jihadi games (like the flaming tire leap)

Then one hot dry Eid eve,
Abu Mazel came to say, (Abu Mazel says!)
Ahmed, with your gun so bright,
Won't you lead the suicide-bombing tonight?

Then all of Hamas loved him (to pieces)
And they paid his mother cash (how much?)
Ahmed, the jihad wannabe, (wannabe)
He'll go down in history! (the obituaries)

485 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:02:29am
In other words, they have well and truly set themselves up for judgement by the hand of G_d by way of famine & disease.

From your key board to the Kingdom of Heaven, Granny.

486 hayseed  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:03:07am

mama winger how old is your furnace

487 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:04:39am

Dirk Diggler

Maybe this will wake you up.

Sheehag's Legal Threat Led CNN to Censor Me, Author says

Sheehan stated during the interview that her anger was based on several statements in the book, including a claim that after her son's death, "Cindy had become addicted to online chat rooms of a pornographic nature."

The book also asserts that Sheehan exchanged "hundreds of explicit emails and instant messages" with a married man.

488 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:06:04am

#429 Geepers

Finally, it occurs to me that a hot

war in the Middle East would provide ideal cover for sweeping flawed or rigged midterm election results

under the White House carpet and denying calls for investigation of election irregularities

.
The hand of Rove has it's fingers in many pies!
Bwahahaha!

489 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:06:09am
In a nation where mosques have sprung up alongside churches and synagogues, where Muslim women are free to wear the hijab (or not), and where education and job opportunities range from decent to good, the resentments that can breed extremism do not seem very evident in the Muslim community. Since 9/11, however, concern is rising among Muslim-Americans that they are becoming targets of bias and suspicion - by law enforcement as well as fellow citizens. It's a disquieting trend, say the young Muslims - one that might eventually help radicalism to grow.


Christian Science Monitor
Comment on CSM article by Robert Spencer

490 Rune  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:06:24am

#449 Killgore Trout

We are witnessing the Europeanization of the Democratic Party, with potentially dire implications for one of the most reliable and loyal group of supporters of the Democratic Party: America’s Jewish community.

I'm not American but I should imagine they're banking on gaining that other group of supporters: Muslims.

Incidentally Wikipedia reports that the new Democratic hope and possible President candidate and not least somewhat unfortunately named, Obama (with the even more unfortunate middle-name: Hussein) is a former Muslim, now convert to Christianity. Wonder how this is gonna sit with the Muslims?

491 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:06:53am

#484 stranded conservative

Very good.

Beats the shit out of that autistic dada babble poetry by whoever that shit head was who got banned last week.

492 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:06:58am

Babba

I can relate, Sistah.

Years ago I had a sleep study done and it revealed that I enter my REM stage almost instantly upon falling asleep.

493 coz  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:07:21am

Good morning all!

Global warming still MIA here in western Illinois.

494 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:07:33am

I was gonna say good morning to a whole bunch of y'all til I realized I could never remember all the names! But anyway, I've taken off my gloves just to say:

GOOD MORNING {LGF}!


Oh and tfc3rid - I don't want to hear any bitching and moaning about how cold you are - I'm 650 miles SOUTH of you and when I first posted the temp here in Charlotte area was 29 with a wind chill of 22!


;')

495 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:08:10am

#487 loppyd
Beard story , she's as gay as the day is long..the 70's bad man hair is the tell.
;~P

496 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:08:29am

But...but I thought it was a done deal?

GOP Holds narrow lead in must-win Senate races

Rove you magnificent bastard!

497 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:08:51am

Killgore Trout (#464),

After bitching on and on about stupid kos kidz buying into any and every crap theory that makes Bush look bad Eternal Hope springs this nifty bit of logic:


That is the same sort of thing George Bush wants to do to you -- If you want to date someone of the same sex, join a peace group, or visit a Mosque, George Bush wants to listen in. Then, he will put you on a no-fly list and assume you are a terrorist.

But remember, don't buy into those other asinine conspiracy theories you idiots.

498 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:08:53am

#492 loppyd
I think I'm in REM when I'm awake, hahhahhaha

499 Peacekeeper  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:10:00am

REM was agreat band.

500 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:10:16am

Babba

I can't argue with you there...

I've never gotten a glimpse of her shoes which can be very illuminating as well.

501 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:11:03am

#487 loppyd

Cindy had become addicted to online chat rooms of a pornographic nature

CindyH8sBush: What R U wearing?
*ding*
Chavez4Life: A giant papier mache head.
*ding*
CindyH8sBush: That's so hot!

502 shug  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:11:58am

430 galloping granny

Morning Babba -

#405 BabbaZee 10/24/2006 06:15AM PDT


#401 cbinflux

Rabbi Khahne used to tell a story of how one of the most prominent Imams in all of the Umaah told him:

We will birth you out of existence (Israel) and Europe too. Give us 30 years.

That was in 1970 or so.

Well then - they have already failed in the endeavor. And there are a whole bunch of factors that the islamic world ignores:

* many of their children (worldwide) are born into abject poverty

* women in the islamic world do not always receive proper medical care during pregancy, birth, postpartum - and some of them none at all

*women in most islamic societies are expected to perform as brood mare, birth 8, 10 or more children. Not good for women that are already undernourished - or the children they carry.

* the islamic world has taken to viewing vaccinations as an imperlialist Jewish plot to kill them all. They are not having their children vaccinated.

* for various reasons, there is a fairly substantial deviation in the ratio of women to men throughout much of the islamic world. Oddly enough, rather than see that they are deficient, they view our 1:1 ratio as "having an excess of women."

That's one threat I would not worry about just yet.

So what you are saying basically is that Charles Darwin was on to something with that whole Natural selection/evolution thingie

503 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:12:00am

PK!

REM peaked with Eponymous, IMHO.

That "Losing my Religion" video is nightmarish.

504 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:12:41am

Loppy

YES! THE SHOES, THE SHOES!
You are just so smart, girlie.


{PEACEKEEPER!}

~~~
Mahdi Madness
By William R. Hawkins
Washington Times 10/24/06

What is happening in Sudan is usually described as a humanitarian disaster. But the campaign of genocide against black Africans by Arab militias should be seen as part of the larger struggle in the Middle East.

The UN Security Council has approved a more robust peacekeeping force to replace the outgunned African Union. President Omar Hassan al-Bashir, however, has rejected UN intervention, claiming his troops would fight against any deployment. This has led to calls for NATO, which is now in charge of Afghan operations, to fight its way into Darfur.

Sudan has long been a bloody frontier between Islam and Black Africa, haunted for centuries by Arab slave traders. The British Empire signed a convention with Egypt in 1877 to outlaw slavery in Sudan. After the British took control of Egypt in 1883, progress was made freeing slaves there, but London decided to withdraw from Sudan. The British governor of the Sudan, Sir Charles "Chinese" Gordon, who opposed withdrawal, was killed in 1885 when an Islamic messiah claiming to be the "Mahdi" captured Khartoum. Slave traders who had gone into hiding flocked to the Mahdi's standard, eager to see the British withdraw.

According to both Sunni and Shi'ite traditions, the Mahdi will arise shortly before the day of judgment and transform the world into a perfect Islamic society. The Prophet Muhammad is reported to have described the Mahdi's appearance: "The black banners will come out of the east, and they will slaughter you in a way that no nation has ever done before."

[SNIP]

Read it HERE

505 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:13:08am
#494 realwest
Oh and tfc3rid - I don't want to hear any bitching and moaning about how cold you are - I'm 650 miles SOUTH of you and when I first posted the temp here in Charlotte area was 29 with a wind chill of 22!

Good heavens, realwest! I am more than 1000 miles NORTH of you and when we got out of bed shortly after dawn the temp was 40 F.

506 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:13:11am

#501 KillgoreTrout
Oooo. Nothing says sexy like a giant papier mache head.

507 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:13:33am

Maybe she's online with Scroticus Maximus, LOL!

508 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:13:36am
Dad stands trial over daughter's mutilation

By LATEEF MUNGIN
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 10/22/06

A father stands accused of the unthinkable: brutally cutting his daughter's genitals.

The girl was only 2.

Khalid Adem is accused of circumcising his 2-year-old daughter with scissors.

Monday, activists from all over the world will be focused on a Gwinnett County courtroom as Khalid Adem, accused of cruelty to a child and aggravated battery for allegedly circumcising his daughter, goes on trial...


[Link: www.ajc.com...]

509 stranded conservative  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:14:04am

#491 BabbaZee

Thanks, I'm a music teacher and after a certain number of years some Christmas songs are just begging to be rewritten. : )

510 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:14:10am

Descent Into Madness

The problem of our days can be simply summed up: it no longer matters what is true, it only matters that you believe it with fervor and defend it fanatically- the greatest issues of our times are the product of people not standing up for the truth unvarnished.

The report that the BBC values diversity, PC and Islam over reality and truth leaves the single largest news service in the world unable to speak frankly about the greatest sociological change in 2000 years of European history. Two, perhaps 3 million Muslims live in Britain; the single greatest protector of the public, the press, insists on NOT covering the single biggest story of their age. The whole point of the press is to discuss what is happening, placing issues outside of discussion creates willfull blindness; that is never a good thing.

In the US, we have a President who has silently let his enemies, political domestic ones and international existential , completely take the war to his house and he issues but the faintest of defenses.

Thousands of Americans have died, as in no longer pay taxes because they achieved the other certainty, as the direct result of Iran openly attacking our people and institutions in Iraq and throughout the world. I said thousands and the problem is those psychos have a taste for our blood and are gearing up to be able to kill millions.

In 1937 you could watch the newsreels and see the Luftwaffe practicing in Spain with nice new planes and the seemingly endless lines of soldiers marching. You could shove your head in the sand or pretend that the Germans could never want another war (after all, the entire elite of Western Europe AGREED war was unthinkable after the Great War) or you could speak out and warn that Hitler was Hitler, Nazism is Nazism and sooner or later those troops and planes were going to go somewhere. But with Stalin building the powerful new worker's paradise in Russia, Germany would never DARE start a war. Germany just hada few grievances. And the Jews, who cares about the Jews? Hitler may be a little over the top about them but he doesn't REALLY mean all that claptrap.

Expressing differing opinions did not get you invited to many dinner parties in 1938; but history now recognizes these leaders as saviors of freedom.

So where are we today?

Globalist expansionist totalitarian country? Check!
Psychotic millenialist leader? Check! [bonus points for alliance with other psychotic tinpot murderous dictators]
Expanding militarism with growing ability to project global power? Check!
Sideshow wars where the real enemy boxes with the half-hearted west? Check!
Small democracy being pressured to give up territory in the vain hope it will appease the rising radical totalitarians? Check!
Isolationist forces fighting to keep the US from the fray? Check!

All of my 1939 criteria are met. Are yours?

The dark clouds on the horizon are not your imagination; we are on the verge of a very big war.

Bush will either be Churchill and stop Iran or Chamberlain consigning millions to die.

He is the only man who can pull the West out of the crash dive, spare the Jews our second holocaust in 60 years and crush the sun source of terrorism, Iran, before the world's biggest barbarians get the biggest bombs.

Worrisome is Bush's silence towards Iran's attacks against our soldiers in Iraq- strong men tell the truth and face the enemy head-on. Poker players can overplay their hands, when they get called they lose everything. When we do not call things as they are, then the enemies' rhetoric has the same value as yours. Indeed, we in the West bend over backwards to accommodate the very people espousing the very ideology of the Ayatollahs; Hitler was always happy to hand you the gun if he knew you'd blow your brains out.

So I look at the naval build up, all I can do is pray that Bush will not falter and that he possesses the will to win. Because if he doesn't, I suggest stocking up on food and iodine tablets, you will need them.

511 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:14:38am

Killgore Trout (#501),

CindyH8sBush: What R U wearing?
*ding*
Chavez4Life: A giant papier mache head.
*ding*
CindyH8sBush: That's so hot!

LOL.

512 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:15:34am

Killgore Trout

LOL!

Good thing the boss is in court this morning. :)

513 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:16:41am

#487 {loppyd) - As much as I dislike Cindy Shehag, after reading the article about the book those two women wrote, I found myself wondering about why, even if it were true, they would put it in a book about her. Sorta an "attack" type approach. I do hate dislike Cindy and hate CNN, but I think CNN made the right call (probably by accident) on that.

514 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:17:24am
515 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:18:11am

#490 Rune
tapping into the muslim vote is only a minor concern with the American left. Liberals in this country have long idolized the Europeans. No offense, but I think it would be a huge mistake to duplicate European solcialism and multiculti-ism here. The american public wouldn't stand for it; $8 per gallon gas and %15 unemployment is not a viable election platform in this country.

516 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:18:19am

Buenos días--

This one goes out to the Canadian lizardoids--

Mark Steyn on how Canada's "orchestrations are beginning to sound the way our costumes look, and it's about time".

517 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:18:30am

#510 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
Hail, AG
Excellent post

The Road to Madness

518 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:19:11am

Babba and Loppyd,

If it's shoes and you two loverly ladies, I can only think of one pair.

[Link: www.wizardofozcostumes.com...]

519 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:20:07am

#486 hayseed

mama winger how old is your furnace

My home was built in '99, so not that old. I have it serviced every other year, this is my off year. I guess it should have been my on year. LOL!

Son in law is coming over after he gets off work today, and I'm very well insulated here. I usually don't have to turn on my heat full time till November, which is pretty good for Wisconsin. I really just need to take the chill out of the air this morning.

520 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:20:22am

#501 Killgore Trout - ROTFLMAO!

521 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:20:37am

Nothing New Under The Sun Department

Dumpster-diving "Dylanologist" A.J. Weberman has "translated" the lyrics to two songs to "prove" that Dylan compared Israel to Nazi Germany.

522 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:21:02am

#518 Widow'smight

...I don't think we are in Kansas anymore!

523 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:22:40am
524 NoSubmission  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:23:10am

#501 Killgore Trout

ROTFL!

525 The Other Les  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:23:14am

# 401 cbinflux

Iranians told to beat West by making more babies just to terrorize us


We can manufacture bullets faster than they could pop out martyrs.

Heck, we can crank out Mark 82 bombs with guidance packages faster than theycould pop out martyrs.

526 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:26:20am

realwest

I would counter that if CNN gave her airtime to promote the lies in her book they should give those who oppose her ample time.

I don't know if she was a guest on CNN, but I'd be willing to bet a small sum.

527 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:26:43am

#491 BabbaZee

Who got banned? I miss all the good stuff.

528 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:27:25am

#513 realwest

I would respectfully disagree with you on that one. Normally I would say a person't private life is private. But Ms Sheehan has made her trade and built her credibility on the role of grieving mother. Really, she has no other claim to fame.

She was literally no one till her son was killed in Iraq. She only got heard because she protrayed herself as sainted mother devastated by the loss of her son. I believe the lifestyle she is leading is in direct contradiction to that image, and is fair game.

Just my opinion, as one of thousands of military moms who never gets asked to appear on CNN.

529 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:27:49am
ps

tfk for one is sick of the "ones of terror of islam" Kill them all and soon, tfk does not care one bit who it is that does the job, just get on with it, they are worse than
bed bugs, reduce them to dots on a computer screen and hit the delete button thats all from me.

You should run for office on the "Kill them All" platform tfk. And "Worse than Bedbugs" makes a catchy slogan and really illustrates the seriousness of the problem.

You're a shoe-in.

530 hayseed  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:28:15am

519 mama winger with a newer house your furnace probably does not have a pilot light.i had the glow plug go out on mine a few years ago. same result no heat.

531 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:28:49am

Widow'sMight

Sexy Dorothy looks like a porn star...

532 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:29:38am

Writermom

I'm sorry, I dont even remember his name

he came on the dead thread one morning and kept spam posting the same unfathomably terrible poem over and over again

then when he was told that was rude to do
he got nasty, and posted even more poems from the bipolar nether regions west of the back of beyond

Then...thwack.
Bye bye, Nameless!

533 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:29:57am
Parents fly in African village elders to circumcise their young daughters
HUNDREDS of young girls in Britain are suffering genital mutilation at the hands of women paid to come to Britain by their families.


Warning, explicit descriptions
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

534 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:30:05am

#510 Ayatollah Ghilmeini- Great Post, especially the opening: "... it no longer matters what is true, it only matters that you believe it with fervor and defend it fanatically- the greatest issues of our times are the product of people not standing up for the truth unvarnished."

BTW -Anyone know why there's no hue and cry in Britain about the BBC?

535 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:30:13am

#530 hayseed

Dumb question time: what's a glow plug, and how will I know it when I see it?

536 shug  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:31:21am

I am writing an article entitled Great Islamic Inventors of the last 500 Years

So far this is all I have...
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

this is tougher than I thought

537 Elric66  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:32:20am

513 realwest 10/24/2006 07:16AM PDT
#487 {loppyd) - As much as I dislike Cindy Shehag, after reading the article about the book those two women wrote, I found myself wondering about why, even if it were true, they would put it in a book about her. Sorta an "attack" type approach. I do hate dislike Cindy and hate CNN, but I think CNN made the right call (probably by accident) on that.


She made her life public and lied about her son and how she became an "anti-war" moonbat. I feel no pity for her

538 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:33:12am

Loppyd,

I didn't look that far, but now you say that... Think your BF is going to buy you that outfit?

Is it cold up there this morning sunshine? When does the Daylight savings time thingy change? Walking my Golden at 5:30 is getting rough, it doesn't get light until 6:45!

539 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:33:22am

#527 WriterMom

Who got banned? I miss all the good stuff.

XMangel was the name I think. The "poetic justice" of being banned was what he received.

540 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:33:47am

#536 shug

Hey shug! I was thinking of you the first game of the Series in Detroit. Too bad,that one. I think I saw you in the stands though. Were you the guy in the jacket cheering? You know, next to that other guy in the jacket cheering?

I thought I recognized you.

541 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:34:01am

#538 Widow's Might
The 29th.

542 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:34:34am

EC Marm

XMangel Yes that was it

543 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:34:57am
544 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:35:01am

realwest...

I love the cool weather... s long as it's not cold... Now 29 in Charlotte? Holy cow!

545 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:35:09am

#529 Geepers - Morning Geepers! I think you may have perhaps exaggerated the "bedbug" part of TKF's post and missed the "tfk for one is sick of the "ones of terror of islam" Kill them all and soon,...". As far as I'm concerned killing Islamic Terrorists as many and as soon as possible is sound policy.

546 DesertSage  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:35:22am

shug

I am writing an article entitled Great Islamic Inventors of the last 500 Years

1) explosive suicide belt


...see, it's not that hard. :')

547 J.D.  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:35:58am

IED

548 shug  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:36:04am

540 mama winger.

game one and cheering sort of don't go together. Not much to smile about that night ;)

we were cheering at game two though...or was that shivering?


still, never ever thought I'd live to see the day I was at a Home game 1 in Detroit, so it was fantastic!

looking forward to game 6-7 if necessary.!

549 williwonka  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:36:07am

# 401 cbinflux

"Iranians told to beat West by making more babies just to terrorize us"

If we have to watch them being made that is, indeed, unspeakable terror.

550 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:36:25am
#502 shug 10/24/2006 07:11AM PDT

430 galloping granny

Morning Babba -

#405 BabbaZee 10/24/2006 06:15AM PDT


#401 cbinflux

Rabbi Khahne used to tell a story of how one of the most prominent Imams in all of the Umaah told him:

We will birth you out of existence (Israel) and Europe too. Give us 30 years.

That was in 1970 or so.

Well then - they have already failed in the endeavor. And there are a whole bunch of factors that the islamic world ignores:

* many of their children (worldwide) are born into abject poverty

* women in the islamic world do not always receive proper medical care during pregancy, birth, postpartum - and some of them none at all

*women in most islamic societies are expected to perform as brood mare, birth 8, 10 or more children. Not good for women that are already undernourished - or the children they carry.

* the islamic world has taken to viewing vaccinations as an imperlialist Jewish plot to kill them all. They are not having their children vaccinated.

* for various reasons, there is a fairly substantial deviation in the ratio of women to men throughout much of the islamic world. Oddly enough, rather than see that they are deficient, they view our 1:1 ratio as "having an excess of women."

That's one threat I would not worry about just yet.

So what you are saying basically is that Charles Darwin was on to something with that whole Natural selection/evolution thingie

Absolutely - but let me qualify that. I am one of the not-as-rare-as-you-think breed of scientists that do not find a religious belief in a Creator and belief in "natural selection" mutually exclusive. While I will admit there are very few of us that will get up in public and say this - tantamount to professional suicide - many of the biologists/microbiologists/biochemists that I have spoken with on this subject over the years feel the same. It is almost impossible to understand the workings of life on the micro-cellular level without a sense of majesty that cannot be abscribed to life magically appearing out of soup.

I am a scientist. I am also a very creative individual. I knit & sew & decorate cakes & quilt & draw - and more. I have never once made exactly the same thing twice.

My vision of G_d the Creator is "Wow, I really like this flower. Wonder how it would look if I changed the color, made it bigger..."

Does that mean that Darwin is wrong? Of course not. Species do change or disappear over time. Sometimes one part of creation affects another part of creation negatively.

Look at the bubonic plague, the Black Death that wiped out about 25% of the world's population in a very short period of time. The micro-organism that causes it is part of Creation - and not so different than you on the cellular level. Twenty-five percent seems atrocious, doesn't it?

Years ago I wrote a paper about why we had not AIDS vaccine. In that paper I predicted that we would find people who had some natural immunity to HIV. (That is the case with nearly all disease.) In the years since, that has come to pass. Caucasians do not contract HIV as readily as those of African, Latin or Asian descent do. And there are many well-documented cases of people that have been repeatedly exposed to HIV but even over many, many years never contracted the disease. A big chunk of those people appear to be descended from Britons who survived the Black Death.

551 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:37:28am

#530 hayseed - Morning to ya! What the heck is a "glow plug"?

552 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:38:13am

NO SANCTUARY
Music by: Chris DeGarmo, Lyrics by: Geoff Tate

There's a certain feeling
Known to all who hear the sound
The call of morning rising
You're in a mystic space
Can't you feel the force embrace, the chill of the wind
As it names you

Oh, can't you see the lies in front of you
Your journey ends so far, and still the distance
Spins round and round you
Now you cry - give me sanctuary
You scream but no one listens
Again you cry - give me sanctuary
Until the end I'll fight and die, to be free
Oh! No sanctuary

You're walking halfway in
But crawling halfway out
There's a void in your mind that you cling to
You feel lost in time, you've got no words to rhyme
No more charms, no more spells to protect you

Oh can't you see the lies in front of you
Your journey ends so far, and still the distance
Spins round and round you
Now you cry - give me sanctuary
You scream, but no one listens
Again you cry - give me sanctuary
Until the end I'll fight and die
Oh I've got to be free

553 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:39:13am

That self-censorship thing... it ain't just the BBC. From No Pasarán:

En France, la plupart des journalistes ont intériorisé des règles qui se fixent et qui font que les choses dérangeantes, on n'en parle pas

(In France, most journalists have internalized the rules that say that disturbing things must not be spoken about)

Ah, and BabbaZee, here is your French opera for this morning... click on Disc 1, Track 6, "Au fond du temple saint".

554 Kirly  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:40:51am

People! Help! I need a joke! A good, clean joke for passing around via email at work. I've appointed myself the morale monitor and I neglected to bring one from home! Heeelllp! You don't realize how much these unhappy souls need to smile!

555 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:41:02am

Shug - Although I am rooting for the Cardinals, I wouldn't mind seeing Detroit win either. Two good Midwest teams - what's not to like?

556 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:41:05am

Mama Winger
The first thing I would look at is your thermostats - It/They may have an A/C - Heat switch that you have to change. I just replaced all of mine last year and they have that feature. It's worth a look.

557 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:41:17am

O.R

Thanks for that Steyn nugget. Stephen Harper really has been amazing so far. I like him, and Peter MacKay. The Canadian 'establishment' is freaking out about the new non-neutral positions of the government.

558 shug  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:41:28am

550 galloping granny

thank you for that post. I really enjoyed it

It is almost impossible to understand the workings of life on the micro-cellular level without a sense of majesty that cannot be abscribed to life magically appearing out of soup

In my life I have also discovered that the more knowledge of science I gained, the more I understand just how little I really know about all of it.

I cannot fathom, no matter how perfect the conditions and the amount of time, that the current human species and life as we know it simply evolved from nitrogen, lightening and the odd meteorite.

even knowledge of an enzymatic process to create a neurotransmitter and it's receptor allows one to get a good joke...amazing stuff

559 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:41:47am

realwest (#545),

If you say so.

Which is the beauty thing in writing in such "full of shit" nonsense code for liebury save US ALL now speechifing bullcraptacular prohetizing.

It can mean anything you want it to.

I sure as shit don't expect the tax free one to ever explain what that crap means.

done

560 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:42:10am

#550 galloping granny
To me Darwin describes a mechanism, not a cause, and it is this misapplication of his concept, or I could say the incorrect definition of the established terms, that I view as a problem.

561 shug  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:43:06am

55 mama winger

agreed.
What's bad for the networks is good for baseball!

a Yankees /mets free world series

HOORAY!

562 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:43:39am

#554 kirly

Clean joke? Here's one:

Granny's Carpool


A state police officer observed a car puttering along the highway at only 22 m.p.h. He turned on his lights and pulled the car over. Approaching the vehicle, he noticed that it contained five old ladies, two in the front seat and three in the back, and that all the old ladies were wide-eyed and white as ghosts. The driver, obviously confused, said, "Officer, I don't understand. I was going exactly the speed limit. What's the problem?"

"Ma'am," the officer replied, "You weren't speeding, but you should know that driving slower than the speed limit can also be a danger to other drivers."

"Slower than the speed limit? I'm following the posted speed exactly!"

The officer, trying to contain a chuckle, explained "22" was the route number, not the speed limit. Embarassed, the woman smiled and thanked him for pointing out her error. Before letting her go, however, the officer asked, "Is everyone in the car okay? Those women seem awfully shaken, and they haven't made a peep this whole time."

"Oh, they'll be all right in a minute, officer. We just got off Route 119."

563 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:44:37am

#559 Geepers

craptacular

ROFL. I love it.

It's infidelicious!

564 Elric66  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:44:44am

#552 BabbaZee


Queensryche rocks!

565 shug  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:44:56am

554 Kirly

This was voted world's funniest joke in 2002


Two hunters are out in the woods when one of them collapses. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The other guy takes out his phone and calls the emergency services.

He gasps: "My friend is dead! What can I do?" The operator says: "Calm down, I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead." There is a silence, then a gunshot is heard. Back on the phone, the guy says: "OK, now what?"

566 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:44:59am

Kirly,

The polish guy walks in on his wife with another man and shouts: "What are you doing?!"

And she say: "I told you he was stupid."


Oh wait, ...

567 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:45:03am

#556 EC Marm

Yup. Did that. But thanks!

568 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:45:20am
Ah, and BabbaZee, here is your French opera for this morning... click on Disc 1, Track 6, "Au fond du temple saint".


OR
that was some hilarious segway from Queensryche The Warning to that, LOL!
My poor cat.

But I'll tell you this, I liked it.

569 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:46:04am

Widow'sMight

;-)

Daylight savings is this weekend...Sat night we fall behind. I hate getting up when it's dark out, too.

570 Kirly  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:46:32am

Thanks mamawinger!

I've heard that one before but these unhappy folks may not have!

571 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:47:26am

#557 WriterMom--

a) I forget, are you Canadianish?

b) Do you agree on Steyn's take that the previous government was squeamish about allowing those Princess Pat snipers to accept an American medal because they didn't like the public being reminded that Canadian soldiers in combat actually, you know, kill people?

572 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:47:46am

#564 Elric66
:~P

573 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:49:23am

#568 BZ:

But I'll tell you this, I liked it.

I do, too. Ever see Gallipoli? That track is what the decent Aussie officer is listening to on his Victrola the night before the climactic "over the top" order, in full knowledge that he's probably going to die the next day.

574 shug  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:49:24am

554 kirly

one more

A priest and a rabbi are sitting at a bar.
The rabbi pulls an apple out if his pocket and begins eating it. He gets to the end and eats the entire core.

The priest asks him why he ate the apple fore.

The rabbi says " In my religion, we believe that eating the core makes a man wise"

The priest says " Well I could use some added wisdom, I wish you had another apple"

The rabbi pulls an apple out of his jacket and offers to sell it to the priest for 10 dollars. The priest buys the apple and begins eating it

As the priest swallows the last of the apple core he says " Hey Rabbi wait a minute, I could have bought an entire bag of apples with that 10 dollars"

"See" says the rabbi, " you're smarter already"

575 hayseed  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:49:41am

535 mama wimger...551 real west..in a sealed combustion furnace it is a electric coil that ignites the gas. mama winger unless you know how to remove the panel were your gas valve is it's best to let your son in law do it. what is the maker of your furnace.

576 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:50:22am

I think the Red Sox sweeping the Cardinals in the 2004 World Series made for pretty good TV.

577 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:51:15am

Good Morning {All Y'all}

I've been trying to catch up on the dead thread. Y'all post too fast...

Babba Zee

"congratulations on your divorce"


I actually bought a card like that. If I recall, the sentiment went something like,
"When he comes crawling back to you, telling you how sorry he is..."
(open card)
"Agree with him!"

My girlfriend loved it.
:D

578 Rune  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:51:24am

#550 galloping granny
To me Darwin describes a mechanism, not a cause, and it is this misapplication of his concept, or I could say the incorrect definition of the established terms, that I view as a problem.

Darwin speaks of some form of divine creation in The Origin of the Species. It's been many years since I read it so I might be a little off here, but in a central sentence he imagine all species tracing their lineage back through the ages to the first created instance of life. Of course Darwinism itself should not be constrained to merely what it's master said, but Darwinism only deals with evolution of existing species – it has absolutely nothing to say about wherefrom the first lifeform arose.

579 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:51:30am

#560 BZ:

To me Darwin describes a mechanism, not a cause

True, nor did he even purport to describe a cause.

580 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:51:46am

#573 Occasional Reader
Holy shitsky, you're right.
/ I love that movie.

581 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:52:04am
582 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:52:07am

#575 hayseed

what is the maker of your furnace.

I'll go check - bb

583 de La Valette  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:52:14am

www.engadget.com...] target="_blank">

Were you looking for one of these, Charles.

584 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:52:47am

shug (#574),

A priest, a rabbi and a minister walk into a bar, and the bartender asks, "Is this some kind of joke?"

585 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:52:57am

579 Occasional Reader

True, nor did he even purport to describe a cause.

Tell it to the Gramscian Whores, they seem to not "get" this part...!

586 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:53:45am

#571 O.R

a) Oui, oui-I am Canadian...posting from lovely, liberal Toronto!

b) Yes-I think that is pretty accurate. There is very little collective memory, or pride in the past accomplishments of the Canadian military. That is starting to change under Harper, but even so-there are a lot of 'cut and run' voices here regarding the Canadian military presence in Afghanistan.

The Trudeaupian 'peacekeeping' myths refuse to die.

587 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:53:53am

#583 de La Valette
Ooo do you need the secret invisibility filter to see that?

LOL!
;~P
/I think you're link didn't make it to the post

588 PISSED  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:54:02am

564 Elric66

#552 BabbaZee


Queensryche rocks!


Just dropped in to see what's goin on and had to give a double thumbs up to Queensryche : )

589 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:54:22am

Loppy that You're is fah yez. LOL!

590 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:54:31am

510 AG,

Your first two paragraphs are spot on, and if you would be talking to the Euroweenies without the US around, I could agree with the rest.

Iran has limited capability to hit any US mainland target right now and do substantial damage to our country. They are surrounded by Far Superior US Military Forces, and we can also launch Bombing raids from the US. At any time, we could just shut off the Strait of Hormuz and there goes all there Gasoline coming in, and their income going out. Strategically, they have no chance against us.

The Europeans are in a much worse situation. They have allowed radical Islam to change their culture and idea of Nationhood to the point that only the British have the capacity to strike back. They should be the ones getting nervous, but their Multi-culture BS is so bad, they can't even understand the Evil their facing.

Iran's real game is in the ME, and the Arab sheiks need to worry. If they would strike Israel with a nuclear weapon, I'm sure Israel would pummel Iran. Even a Dumbocrat President wouldn't stop Israel.

Iran is playing the only cards they have, trying to get higher Oil prices and spreading terrorism.

Once the Dumbocrats and Rhinos who are so afraid of the Enviro-mental cases realize we need to get our own oil, the Iranians won't be able to hurt our country economically.

The Euros and other Muslims need to worry, our troops in the ME would be endangered, but those of us in the US should be fine.

FOR NOW

591 shug  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:54:36am

OT

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Though poor and minority neighborhoods suffered the brunt of Katrina's fury

I disagree completely with that statement.
What utter race-bating BS.

592 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:54:43am

Yo, PISSED.

593 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:55:57am
tfk does not give a big shit what anyone thinks

I love you just for that.

594 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:55:58am

We need to keep this handy.

The Great Communicator

595 jonturner  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:56:07am

OT, but a welcome relief from the horrors of Islamic snuff films...

FARK, Photoshop this: It's Clinton's Fault

596 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:56:18am

OK OK, I've got a joke.

A Gramscian Whore, Cindy Sheehan and Susan Sarandon walk into a bar...

heee hheee

597 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:56:43am

shug...

Don't drag my Metsies into it... It's not like we are in the playoffs every year! We are NOT the Yankees...

I'm love having other teams in the series... As far as I go, anybody but the Yankees in the WS is fine with me...

598 PISSED  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:56:50am

Hey Babba Zee!

599 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:57:29am

#585 BZ:

Tell it to the Gramscian Whores

Not believing in god(s)/supernatural creation is not the same thing as being a Gramscian Whore. The two are often associated, I agree, but they are independent phenomena.

600 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:58:21am

AHHHAAA

ROOONNNIIIEEE!

601 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:58:42am

#575 hayseed

I can't find a name on it. It has a lot of stickers - some of them in french. Maybe that's the problem right there.

My son in law is an electrician apprentice, so he should be able to figure it out for me. thanks for your help though!

602 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:58:52am

WriterMom

I recently red a book that took place in Centralia then Toronto. The author (Moonbat tendencies) made Toronto out to be quite the liberal city...lots of openly gay characters being openly gay all over the city. I guess I never knew...

603 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:58:53am
Though poor and minority neighborhoods suffered the brunt of Katrina's fury

So this was a racist/classist hurricane! Clearly we need to give sensitivity training to future hurricanes.

604 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:58:58am

#599 Occasional Reader
You are a rare breed OR. Face it.

605 shug  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:59:07am

597 tfc3rid

nothing against the fans in Queens. Salt of America.

I just happen to be on an anti Fox-Sports kick at the moment and am happy to see their ratings suffer a little bit for lack of an East Coast team.
that's all

606 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:59:10am

#567 mama winger
OK - Next step. Find your furnace. Trace the wires from the furnace to the wall. Most likely there is a "throw off" or emergency switch mounted on the wall that the wires from the furnace lead to. Are the switches in the "Up" position? (If someone serviced something in that area they may have thrown the switch off and forgotten to turn it back on) If it has been turned off, turn it on and count to twenty(If it doesn't ignite it is most likely programmed to shut fuel source after 15 to 20 seconds - safety feature). If you don't hear ignition, turn switch back off and call for service. Your source of ignition is not functioning. Could be a transformer, or plugs, etc.

You also may have a second emergency throw switch in the house, check that switch, also. (They usually have red cover plate)

607 PISSED  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:59:35am

596 WriterMom .

---and a suicide bomber goes to meet his virgins--- hahahahahha

608 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 5:59:44am

#596 WriterMom 10/24/2006 07:56AM PDT
OK OK, I've got a joke.

A Gramscian Whore, Cindy Sheehan and Susan Sarandon walk into a bar...

heee hheee


It's a gay bar, right?

609 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:01:38am

#594 Geepers - Thanks! Just added that to my favorites!

610 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:01:50am

#586 WriterMom:

There is very little collective memory, or pride in the past accomplishments of the Canadian military

I had a startling conversation once with a nominally very well-educated, quite "elite" Canadian, who was certain that Canadian troops had fought bravely at Dieppe... in World War One. I could not convince him that he was off by a digit.

611 shug  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:02:03am

633 OR

Katrina: The Name just screams Bundist!

Runsfield and Rove created the Perfect Nazi storm specifically to kill poor blacks in New Orleans.

It would have been all too perfect, until the storm mistakenly veered to the east and took out Trent Lotts house as well as lots of white southerners in Mississippi and Alabama.

/oops

612 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:02:13am
#578 Rune 10/24/2006 07:51AM PDT

#550 galloping granny
To me Darwin describes a mechanism, not a cause, and it is this misapplication of his concept, or I could say the incorrect definition of the established terms, that I view as a problem.

Darwin speaks of some form of divine creation in The Origin of the Species. It's been many years since I read it so I might be a little off here, but in a central sentence he imagine all species tracing their lineage back through the ages to the first created instance of life. Of course Darwinism itself should not be constrained to merely what it's master said, but Darwinism only deals with evolution of existing species – it has absolutely nothing to say about wherefrom the first lifeform arose.

Actually, that quote is from BabbaZ. But you're right. When I first took biology in high school we were taught both "versions" - but back then any mention of religion in public school was not quite so verbotten. It is politics that has put Darwinism in the ridiculous position of being The One True Answer to something it really never addressed.

I think our society - and science - is much the poorer for it. Many fail to realize that over time nearly every scientific theory, once considered "gospel", has been overturned or substantially modified. That includes even Einstein.

613 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:02:35am

shug...

Geez... During the entire NLCS I though that the Foxies were openly rooting for the Cardinals... At least, Joe Buck, McCarver and Luis Gonzalez were in the booth...

I remember growing up as a kid and watching Mets games bradocast here in NY with Tim McCarver and that he was really the best color guy around but he has really sunk lately...

614 mama winger  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:02:48am

#606 EC Marm

OK - will do. If that doesn't work, I'll wait for Son in law. I knew he would come in handy someday.

615 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:03:42am

Good morning REALWEST...

So it's getting cold in your part of the country...

It's been that way for a month is Washington state. Where I LIVE... LOL

Welcome to winter buddy.

616 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:05:26am

#612 granny:

It is politics that has put Darwinism in the ridiculous position of being The One True Answer to something it really never addressed.

Gotta say... I went to public school, and don't recall Darwinism ever being proferred as the answer to the question of the ultimate origin of life.

617 Geepers  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:05:48am
they are all evil , 90% of the Congress and Senate, same same, lib evil and money evil and evil is as evil does thats all

Tell you what oh tax free one, head down to your Congressman's or Senator's campaign headquarters and keep repeating "they are evil, they are evil" until you get some "attention".

Than you can post about how you don't:

give a big shit what anyone thinks

And if you want to respond to this, you can answer; do I get the right to not give a big shit what anyone thinks?

618 cbinflux  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:06:15am

Did Charles leave a Pedal-Plan with anyone..?

Is he missing in action, or just sleeping in..?

Server down again..?

/APB. Anyone seeing a Lizard on a racing bike, please call in and HOLD for the Lt. That is all.

619 scoreboard44  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:06:46am

Anybody bought the book "America Alone" yet and read it?

I don't read much anymore, but this looks intriguing.

620 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:07:00am

Before the Storm
Queensryche

Red gates of iron cast their
Black shadows on this land

Dividing souls... far below

The gathering winds the armies watch
Are rising from the west
Foretelling news... of freedom's hand

In secrecy they've infiltrated
All of our strongholds
Controlling more... year after year

So we've let this happen all along
Believing what's been said

Our leaders cry... we have no one to fear

We watch the sun rise, and hope
We watch the sun rise, and hope
That it won't be our last

Before the storm
Before the storm
Before the storm
Before the storm

Is it late to try, must we all die
Our system awaits tests
Freedom by choice...
is it for all men, best

So we wait in fear the atom split
Our hearts in two be torn

Learn from the past... before the storm

We watch the sunrise, and hope
We watch the sunrise, and hope

That it won't be our last

621 PISSED  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:07:13am

Since this seems to be joke day

heres one i heard the other day,


So a pair of jumper cables walks into a bar

and jumps up on the stool, and orders a beer

the bartender looks sternly at him and says:

" Alright, Ill serve ya but,

-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Don't start anything"

(loppyd this was from the 466 at the end of rt 1 in danvers : ))

622 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:08:06am

#616 Occasional Reader
Cause we're OLD now.
that was a Looong time ago, LOL
Things are different today.

623 Peacekeeper  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:08:37am

Darwinism may not be associated with the origin of life, BUT it is often associated with it's end:

Pancake Pantry Thief 1992 Darwin Award Nominee

(1992, Tennessee) Nashville's Pancake Pantry restaurant is well known throughout the music industry, not only for its great pancakes, but for its star-studded clientele as well. It is not uncommon for the Pantry's sidewalk to be littered with long lines of customers waiting for breakfast and the chance to see a famous country star dining there. The man involved in this story may linger longer in our memories than the average country singer's career.
It seems one of the Pancake Pantry employees, noting how successful the place was, thought it would be a perfect place to rob. Early one morning, he climbed on the roof and reached the exhaust chute that hangs over the Pantry's large flat grill. Upon inspection, the perpetrator realized that he couldn't negotiate the tight passage fully dressed. He
disrobed and slid down the exhaust chute naked. This was the last thing he ever did.
Imagine the surprise of the opening crew for the restaurant that morning! As they prepared for the morning's breakfast, they were horrified to find a pair of legs dangling just inches from the griddle.

What happened to our would-be villain? It seems that the chute was so tight, there was no room for error. As he slid down the chute, he slipped and caught his own arm under his chin, where he stuck. He died by suffocating himself.

Paul Bordenkircher says, "I share this story not because I heard it third-hand, or even second-hand. I report it because I saw the it on local TV news, including a full video of the grisly discovery hanging above the Pantry's famous griddle."

Submitted by: Paul Bordenkircher

Reference: WSMV TV

624 PISSED  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:11:26am

620 BabbaZee

now i gotta break out the queensryche CD's

for the truck : )

625 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:11:38am

PISSED

(loppyd this was from the 466 at the end of rt 1 in danvers : ))

You stalkin' me? :)

Are you on the North Shore?

626 cbinflux  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:11:43am

#430

Note to Spain, France, England... Galloping Granny says to quit worrying.

/With all due respect, it's hard to predict dates on major earthquakes and caliphates, but I don't think it's so far off. If the chads had hung the other way, Gore or Kerry would have already surrendered us(a) to the U.N.

627 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:14:43am

#624 PISSED
When I listen to The Warning or Deep Purple 'Burn" I ALWAYS drive too fast, LOL!

628 PISSED  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:14:47am

625 loppyd

NO Stalker here, just noticed you mentioned your office in Newburyport,

I'm on the North Shore tooo :)

629 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:15:34am
#626 cbinflux

#430

Note to Spain, France, England... Galloping Granny says to quit worrying.

/With all due respect, it's hard to predict dates on major earthquakes and caliphates, but I don't think it's so far off. If the chads had hung the other way, Gore or Kerry would have already surrendered us(a) to the U.N.

No, I did not say to quit worrying, sit back and do nothing. I said that the stragey of simply out-birthing us was one that will sooner or later backfire in a very big way.

Abnormal population movement - rightly termed by many "invasion" - has nothing to do with that.

630 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:15:58am

#622 BZ:

Things are different today.

I very much doubt that today in public schools they are teaching that Darwinian evolution (strictly defined) started life. I would imagine it's the same "primordial soup/formation of amino acids" etc. theory I'm familiar with. (Of course there are similarities here to Darwinism, in the sense that the more successfully self-replicating long-chain amino acids "survived", etc.)

631 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:17:45am

PISSED

No worries...I was razzing you.

North Shore rules!

So I saw a couple of funny bumper stickers while in Boston yesterday:

FREE 'EM ALL DEVALL

DEVALL PATRICK - NOT YOUR ORDINARY MARXIST

632 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:18:26am

#623 PK:

Pancake Pantry Thief 1992 Darwin Award Nominee

Sorry but to my mind, there can be one, and only one, "pancake"-associated Darwin Award winner.

633 cbinflux  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:19:28am

#591 shug

That was a laser-guided hurricane that W sent in, with Cheney and Rumsfeld calling it in.

Check Farrakhans in-depth and definitive work on the subject.

634 PISSED  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:19:51am

#627 BabbaZee

The Warning was freshman year at Northeastern

my other fav is Empires.

Add on Pearl jam TEN

Bush SIXTEEN STONE

Triumph ALLIED FORCES

now the truck willbe rockin gotta bust all these out for the weekend !

635 hayseed  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:20:09am

mama winger also check to see if the gas vavle is open. should be a shut off on the out side of the furnace

636 cbinflux  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:22:11am

#629 GG

IF the rising population stays there, it will correct itself. If it comes here (US and EU) it will vote us DEAD.

It's coming here thanks to wrong-headed pols

637 cbinflux  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:23:08am

p.s.
Charles is apparently found and safe...

638 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:23:37am

#634 PISSED
The Warning is one of those rare "after my time" metal albums that I love.
But all the albums you listed are good.
Triumph Allied Forces happens to remind me of alot of things, LOL!

1982.
/It was a verry good yeaaar, LOL!

639 PISSED  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:23:48am

#631 loppyd

I cant believe that people would even think about voting for him---

Kerry Healy is gettin mine : )

640 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:23:52am
#616 Occasional Reader

#612 granny:

It is politics that has put Darwinism in the ridiculous position of being The One True Answer to something it really never addressed.

Gotta say... I went to public school, and don't recall Darwinism ever being proferred as the answer to the question of the ultimate origin of life.

Don't know how long you've been out of school, but things have changed substantially. According to the "science" now taught in schools, life evolved ala Darwins theory from a giant miasma.

641 loppyd  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:28:22am

PISSED

Add on Pearl jam TEN

That was my junior year of college. Changed everything for me musically.

642 PISSED  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:28:29am

640 galloping granny

miasma.

Thats the excuse my wife uses when I'm feeling frisky ; )


sorry couldnt resist

643 Peacekeeper  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:28:47am

Somehow I knew I couldn't use the "P" word without her being invoked.

644 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:29:56am

#640 granny:

According to the "science" now taught in schools, life evolved ala Darwins theory from a giant miasma.

Okay, as opposed to...?

(I don't really think of the primordial soup idea as Darwinism, but as noted above, it's analagous; and at least when I went to school, this was postulated as a theory, not as proven fact)(oh, and it makes sense to me)

645 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:32:52am

#580 BabbaZee

Holy shitsky

646 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:36:00am

#602 loppyd

It is quite liberal, with a very huge Gay Village near the downtown. However, there is the VRWC local chapter and we are a group of at least 20 lizards who meet for lunch.

#610 O.R

{sigh} At least he knew Canadians fought in a world war.

647 annelid[deleted]  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:37:56am
648 PISSED  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:38:53am

#638 BabbaZee

1982 was a great year for me tooo

original release for the warning was 1984

i was freshman / sophmore

I spent 81/82 partying at univ of mich.

then got serious and started at NU in '82

I would go back in a heartbeat to those days knowing what i know now!

649 galloping granny  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:39:16am
#644 Occasional Reader

#640 granny:

According to the "science" now taught in schools, life evolved ala Darwins theory from a giant miasma.

Okay, as opposed to...?

(I don't really think of the primordial soup idea as Darwinism, but as noted above, it's analagous; and at least when I went to school, this was postulated as a theory, not as proven fact)(oh, and it makes sense to me)

These days children are taught that theories ARE facts.

650 BabbaZee  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:42:25am

#648 PISSED
Yep Warning was ABMT (after babba's metal time), 1984.
That was not such a good year, LOL!

Gotta go
be well and kick ass, Lizardia.

651 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:42:40am

For the origins of life in the universe, I'd say the theory of Panspermia takes the cake. At least as far as giggle-inducing names.

652 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:44:26am

#613 tfc3rid

Geez... During the entire NLCS I though that the Foxies were openly rooting for the Cardinals... At least, Joe Buck, McCarver and Luis Gonzalez were in the booth...

Sitting here in STL thats actually kind of funny. Around here the general opinion is that Joe Buck is going out of his way not to appear pro Cardinal and thus was pro whoever their opponent was/is. As for McCarver, not many can stand his schtick and his good ol' country boy carriage seems contrived at best. When we woke up the next morning to see the Chavez catch shown over and over w/o any shots of the Molina homer to actually win the game it just cemented the opinion of a pro-east coast bias on the part of the networks.

NMM

653 Peacekeeper  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:44:30am

A meer coincidence?

21 February 2004, Ottawa, Canada) Ameer, a second-year engineering student at Carleton University, was celebrating his 20th birthday with friends in his 11th-floor apartment when they embarked on a spitting contest. His two friends had already made their marks. Ameer thought he could use his engineering skills to improve his performance. A quick mental calculation of trajectory, projectile velocity, and wind speed indicated that winning required more than a simple "stand and spit" technique. Ameer took a running start, flew over the balcony railing, and plunged to his death.
"It was purely accidental," said Ottawa police, "momentum carried him beyond." The building's security guard heard the thud. "He was one of the smartest guys I ever met in my life," the guard said. "He had a maturity beyond his age."

Spitting contest deaths are becoming a trend. In 1999, a 25-year-old soldier in Alabama won the first Darwin Award in this category in 1999, using the same techinque and achieving the same result. 23-year-old Bartosz of Mt. Prospect, was nominated for falling 20 feet onto his head in December 2005. Bartosz is remarkable for having fallen over an apartment railing without running start. But Ameer clearly trumps his competitors with his 11-story fall.

LINK

654 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:44:53am

651 OR

you're just giggling because it has the word "pan" in it.

and the suffix "ia". . . the most humorous of all suffixes.

655 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:45:48am

When I'm in charge of the science curriculum in the nation's classrooms, Panspermia will be taught as fact.

(Also, that the universe is boobular-shaped)

656 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:47:52am

I graduated cum laude with a degree in Panspermia Studies.


[snirk]

657 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:48:23am

WriterMom,

You don't mean this Centralia, do you?

Somehow, I don't see a large gay community in the PA Coal regions.

[Link: www.offroaders.com...]

658 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:48:53am

ok. . need to go take some of my blood and stick it in a machine.

then go to lunch.

659 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:51:00am
ok. . need to go take some of my blood and stick it in a machine.

Paying your federal income tax quarterly?

:P

660 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:55:23am

#658 Lance:

need to go take some of my blood and stick it in a machine

The matzoh-maker? Lance, we done told you a hundred times, we only want the blood of gentile children... sheesh, get it right, willya?

661 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:56:12am

(I'm using "we" since I was made an honorary joo some time ago on this blog)

662 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:56:35am

NMM,

#659, I guess you're over your jet lag from your trip to Iowa.

I remember watching the 7th game Mets vs Cards and watching the relief pitcher for the Mets begin to fade in his second inning (8th). I was trying to tell Willie Randolph he was tiring, and you could see that in Scott Rolen's AB. Rolen was hammering his fastball way foul.
No mention from Buck/McCarver of that HUGE mistake of letting him in there when Billy Wagner was ready. Plus, the Cards were getting to the bottom of their order. It was obvious that Mets picture was not used to throwing that many pitches in a game.

But, what do I know?

663 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:56:51am

#656 O.R.

I had to interrupt my studies.

664 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 6:59:11am

#663 nmm:


Sorry to hear that, but at least you didn't graduate prematurely. That can be both messy and embarrassing.

665 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:00:06am

NMM,

I had to interrupt my studies.

Was that the "Kuwaitus Interruptus" Middle East policies you were studying?

666 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:01:04am

#619 scoreboard44

I'm gonna borrow it from a fellow lizard. They aren't selling it in Canada!

#657 Widows'might

I haven't got a clue about Centralia. I was talking about Gaytown here in Toronto, Canada. But-I'm sure the PA coalminers would be a big hit if they came to visit!

667 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:02:55am

#664 O.R

HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHA

668 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:04:29am

WriterMom,


I haven't got a clue about Centralia. I was talking about Gaytown here in Toronto, Canada. But-I'm sure the PA coalminers would be a big hit if they came to visit!

Just goofing on ya my dear! As long as you have Beer in Toronto, I'm sure they'd find something to do.

669 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:06:42am

Beers for Queers!

Free Palestine!

Bring Down BigMoonbat!

Yes-there is lots of beer here. At one student slosh pad not far from me, they have .50 cent draught night-the students get completely tanked. In Ontario the drinking age is 19.

670 Occasional Reader  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:11:58am

#669 WriterMom:


Were it not for cheap, plentiful Canadian beer, I might not be here. My parents (who are both from near the Canadian border) met at a LaBatts kegger somewhere in Ontario.

671 m  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:12:22am

WTH?

Alabama candidate campaigns on cleavage

MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Loretta Nall, the Libertarian Party's write-in candidate for governor of Alabama, is campaigning on her cleavage and hoping that voters will eventually focus on her platform.

"It started out as a joke, but it blew up into something huge," said Nall, a 32-year-old with dyed blond hair.

Her campaign is offering T-shirts and marijuana stash boxes adorned with a photo of her with a plunging neckline and the words: "More of these boobs." Below that are pictures of other candidates for governor — including Republican incumbent Bob Riley and Democratic Lt. Gov. Lucy Baxley — and the words: "And less of these boobs."

[snip]

Early in her campaign, she talked about how her misdemeanor arrest for marijuana possession in 2002 led her to start the U.S. Marijuana Party.

Then she entertained readers of her campaign Web site with lots of information about her personal life, including a discussion of why she doesn't wear panties.

672 Obi-wan  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:13:42am

{LIZARDS}!

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!

673 m  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:18:14am

Hey {Obi}! How are ya?

Hahahahaha:
Police find naked man stuck in window

FORREST CITY, Ark. - Authorities say a would-be burglar's plot was foiled when he got stuck — naked — in the window of a house. The man was caught before he could take anything from an apartment he was allegedly trying to rob, Forrest City police said.

Dennis Reed Jr., 19, was arrested Saturday when police found him stuck between an air conditioning unit and a window frame of the apartment, police said. Reed was nude when police found him.

Reed told police that he was forced at gunpoint to break into the apartment by a subject he only knew by his first name.

Officers and emergency personnel initially tried to free Reed, but were unsuccessful. Reed was finally freed after the fire department's rescue squad rescue personnel entered the apartment and removed the air conditioner.

Reed was charged with residential burglary and taken to the St. Francis County jail, police said.

674 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:18:45am

O.R.

Sorry to hear that, but at least you didn't graduate prematurely. That can be both messy and embarrassing.

Actually everything worked out OK. I got some individual counseling. It took an extremely long time for me to graduate and it was a very satisfying experience.

:D

NMM

675 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:18:58am

#670 O.R

Ahhh...the miracles of creation beer. Actually, I had a delicious Israeli beer just last week (sob, sob). My sister-in-law made this feast and had put Macabi beer in the freezer for a few hours before dinner. One of their friends, who barely speaks English was trying to have a conversation with me in the Sukkah...

It was all about: Me dreeenk, me happy, me no dreeenk, me also happy.

676 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:19:41am

#673 m

Well-that's better than finding a window stuck in a naked man!

677 Obi-wan  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:22:10am

#673 {m}

Doing great as always! How's by you?

678 m  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:28:45am

#676 WriterMom

Well-that's better than finding a window stuck in a naked man!

!

#677 Obi-wan

Doing great as always! How's by you?

That's fantastic! I'm doing pretty good, I reckon :D~ I'm still working on "great" though :D

679 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:29:44am

#676 Writermom

Well-that's better than finding a window stuck in a naked man!

Yick! I hope O.R. posts an Adriana Lima pic quick to cleanse the mental image of your post...anything to get Richard Gere outta there!

;)

NMM

680 Obi-wan  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:29:55am

#678 m

Keep striving, darlin'. Its out there.

681 m  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:40:35am

NMM~ I'll hook you up! Pay no attention to the rest of them... those are for me :D

682 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:43:04am

M,

That's fantastic! I'm doing pretty good, I reckon :D~ I'm still working on "great" though :D

Me thinks you are very modest my dear!

Hallo for Obi

683 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:43:47am

God Bless you {m}!

684 Obi-wan  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:44:44am

#682 Hallo for [widow'smight].

685 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:47:57am

Please, please go to this website

[Link: agentramos.blogspot.com...]

and download the "presidential pardon" form for the two border patrol agents who were recently sentenced to hard time for pursuing a confirmed repeat Mexican drug smuggler as he hot-footed toward the border.

These two agents haven't gotten their pay for 19 months while they've spent all savings on legal fees. Agent Ramos's family had to sell their home.

The damned federal prosecutor gave the Mexican drug smuggler immunity so he could testify against the border patrol guys.

Since then the Mexican drug smuggler got caught smuggling again.

Oh--and the Mexican drug smuggler is suing for violation of his "civil rights." Um, you're not a US citizen, puta.

686 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:48:55am
687 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:49:22am

684 Obi-wan - Morning to ya! Just got finished with a couple hours of chores.
I don't get it. I moved 650 miles SOUTH of NYC and it's colder here today than it is there!
WTH?

688 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:53:08am

back from lunch.

blood still red.

689 m  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:54:14am

#682 {Widow'smight}!
Hey sweetie!

#683 {newmelleman}!

God Bless you {m}!

Oh he did~!
*polishes nails*
;-)

I'm kidding people!

690 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:54:57am

Lance

back from lunch.

blood still red.


Maybe you should clarify that those two statements are unrelated.

691 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:55:20am

NMM,

I'm suprised you missed my 665 post on your earlier reported problem. Maybe you were talking about being interrupted when throwing Quoits, I don't know. I think the Latin term would be "Quoitis Interruptus".

692 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:58:08am

690 redstate

heh. well, apart from chronologically, they are not related.

693 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 7:59:42am

redstateredneck
Happy belated birthday! I wanted to get you one of these, since at your age sleep is so important, but I couldn't afford it. Maybe one of these would help you get around while your leg mends.
;)

694 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:01:40am

693 UFO

I thought that, to help her get things while her leg mends, I'd send these over.

695 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:03:34am

#691 Widow

:)

I miss all kinds of things...


"You missed seeing the stack of clean laundry on your way to the refrigerator...why didn't you put it away?"

"You missed the fact that you are supposed to lift the lid?"

"You missed the DON'T in 'I don't like to watch professional sports'?"

...I could go on.

:D

NMM

696 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:04:17am

Lance
The link says "Forbidden".
?

697 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:05:04am

UFO TOFU,

How's your daughter?

698 aussiemagpie  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:06:40am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Just a quick hello to you all - I've been crook with a rotten cold so I've been lurking not posting , not wanting to breathe germies all over you all :-)

Now as it's after 3am I'd better hop into bed with my tissues

See you all tonight!

699 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:09:04am

NMM,


"You missed seeing the stack of clean laundry on your way to the refrigerator...why didn't you put it away?"

Even I know you don't put clothes in the refrigerator, you put them on the stairs!

/hoping the Mrs don't ever meet each udder

700 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:12:07am

Widow'smight
Thanks for asking, I won't know until 8:30 am this Sunday. I believe she was supposed to relocated to a support group in area not frequented by her old friends, which would probably be a good idea. However her mother is set to pick her up that day, even though I offered, so it sounds like right back into the same environement. At this point, after raising/try to raise six kids, I just don't know what more to do.

701 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:13:18am

696 UFO

eh, was blocked on my end, but the thumbnail was a group of partially clad male models, just for redstate.

702 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:15:09am

Widow

/hoping the Mrs don't ever meet each udder

You got that right.

*shudder*

I've listened to a few "manrants" this season when the moms forgot I was around.

NMM

703 m  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:26:12am

#698 aussiemagpie

Hey {Aussie}! Bye {Aussie}! Feel better soon!

704 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:26:34am

UFO TOFU,

Hang in there guy. I know from my own personal experiance that I can't just fix everything in my family's lives like I can fix the house.

Here's wishing you strength to endure the additional challenges ahead, and the patience to wait out this mess. Also, I wish you the tenderness and understanding you'll need once you have a chance to wrap those arms of yours around her.

I hope this story from the New Testement will give you comfort as you face this new challenge. God Bless


"There was a man who had two sons. The younger of them said to his father, 'Father give me the share of his property that will belong to me.' So he divided the property between them. A few days later the younger son gathered all he had and traveled to a distant country, and there he squandered his property in dissolute living. When he had spend everything, a severe famine took place throughout that country, and he began to be in need. So he went and hired himself out to one of the citizens of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed the pigs. He would gladly have filled himself with the pods that the pigs were eating; and no one gave him anything. But when he came to himself he said, 'How many of my father's hired hands have bread enough and to spare, but here I am dying of hunger! I will get up and go to my father, and I will say to him, "Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you; I am no longer worthy to be called your son, treat me like one of your hired hands."' So he set off and went to his father. But while he was still a far off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion; he ran and put his arms around him and kissed him. Then the son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you; I am no longer worthy to be called your son.' But the father said to his slaves, 'Quickly, bring out a robe--the best one--and put it on him; put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. And get the fatted calf and kill it, and let us eat and celebrate; for this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' And they began to celebrate.

705 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:26:55am

Irony alert!

The third part of the consulted mexicans, 34% considers that the Central American immigrants take jobs from Mexicans. On the other hand, 46% think that they obtain jobs that the Mexicans do not want. 38% consider that it is more probable that the Central American immigrants get involved in criminal activities than the Mexicans.


[Link: silentrunning.tv...]

706 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:28:34am

Widow'smight
Thanks, I appreciate that more than you know.

707 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:31:02am

#705 UFO

As Shaggy would say...ZOIKS!

NMM

708 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:31:32am

UFO TOFU,

You are very welcome, we've all had to face big obstacles in our lives, and the DDT folks always seem to say the right things to me.

709 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:34:08am

705 UFO

thanks, i emailed that to my SiL.

she is SLOWLY leaving the Dark Side (i.e. liberalism)

710 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:35:25am

Damn I have to go back to work without seeing if my cyber gift got a rise out of redstate. Check back with you all later.

I don’t know much about art, but I do enjoy good photography.

711 realwest  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:35:30am

#703 {m} Hi ya sweetie! How are y'all? When ya get a chance, check your e-mail, please.

712 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:58:10am

DRAT! I've missed TOFU.

713 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 8:59:59am
I thought that, to help her get things while her leg mends, I'd send these over.


Ooh, Lance, that must have been somethin'
NASTAY!

714 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:07:49am

713 redstate

hey... just thinking about your... umm... comfort.

*grin*

715 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:10:50am

Scarlett,

How ya doin on the day after Boithday?

Thought I'd send you a song for today.

There Ya Go

Starting over again is a bit like dancing
You just need someone to lead and take it slow
So lay your head on my shoulder
Let me hold you close, that's it
There you go
There you go, you're doing fine
Take each day like a step, one at a time
Put one foot in front of the other
And the next thing you know
That's it
There you go

Every day is like a new beginning
One door opens, while another starts to close
But just slip your arms around me
Cause life's a dance, don't know
That's it
There you go
There you go, you're doing fine
Take each day like a step, one at a time
Put one foot in front of the other
And the next thing you know
That's it
There you go

I know how it feels to have your heart crossed
Like the wings of the butterfly
But you gotta try
So just hold on tight

Put one foot in front of the other
And the next thing you know
You're dancing
There you go
That's it
There you go

716 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:14:23am

Thanks, {widow's}
I'm doin' all right, but I have to go to therapy in a little while.

717 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:18:21am

Scarlett,

You poor Baby! Hope you get all fixed up soon, how ya goin to keep the PACK in line? You prolly gave up on keeping Hubby in line, but it appears you have him right where you want him.

718 m  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:20:15am

#710 UFO TOFU
That's plum purty.

#711 {realwest}~gotcha! :D

Hey {Redstate}! What's the haps?!

719 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:23:07am

{m}

Hey {Redstate}! What's the haps?!


Kind of quiet around here this afternoon, but I'm not complaining!

720 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:27:00am

quiet is not always bad.

but it makes for a slow work day.

721 Daisy  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:33:38am

#121 Promethea

"Hey "Osama." If you're not already dead, you're in "The Toilet."

Perhaps even if he is dead .. albeit a very hot toilet :)

722 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:38:00am

Hey, Daisy

Welcome to the DDT; we're kind of the toilet of LGF!
;-)

723 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:39:21am

#722 {redstate}

"Potty Mouth" fits us as well!

:D

NMM

724 m  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:40:59am

Okay guys~ I'll be tied up the rest of the day so I had better get my goodbyes in now~

*sniff*

I'll miss {youse guys}!

725 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:41:09am

Scarlett,

How Bout

Daisy, Daisy give me your answer true
We're half-crazy waitin till you get off the lieu (sp?)

726 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:42:28am

#724 {m}

I'll be tied up the rest of the day so I had better get my goodbyes in now

Whoo Hoo, you go m! Leaving work early?

:)

NMM

727 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:42:41am

A drunken man walks into a biker bar, sits down at the bar and orders a drink. Looking around, he sees three men sitting at a corner table.

He gets up, staggers to the table, leans over, looks the biggest, meanest, biker in the face and says: "I went by your grandma's house today and I saw her in the hallway butt naked. Man, she is one fine looking woman!"

The biker looks at him and doesn't say a word. His buddies are confused, because he is one bad biker and would fight at the drop of a hat.

The drunk leans on the table again and says: "I got it on with your grandma and she is good, the best I ever had!"

The biker's buddies are starting to get really mad but the biker still says nothing. The drunk leans on the table one more time and says, "I'll tell you something else, boy, your grandma liked it!"

At this point the biker stands up, takes the drunk by the shoulders looks him square in the eyes and says..

"Grandpa,... Go home, you're drunk!"

728 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:43:56am

724 m

"I'll be tied up the rest of the day so I had better get my goodbyes in now."

Get in the office, close the door and wait for me... I'll be there in a minute.

729 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:55:23am

*crickets*

730 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 9:58:09am

Lance,

You a bad widow boy.

How's the Temp out there, it's kinda chill-weee here.

731 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:02:29am

730 Widow

heh.

it is kind of nice here. cool, but nice.

Holy Crap!

news report on the radio. two ambulance companies and some hospital are being investigated for "Patient dumping"

they bring 'unwanted' patients to a 'rough part' of town and leave them there.

what horrible people.

732 Miss Trixie  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:04:04am

Hellooo?

733 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:06:43am

hi Miss Trixie.

there's a new lady at work who, for some reason, reminds me of you.

734 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:07:48am

What's shakin' {Miss Trixie}?


*wait*


NMM

735 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:08:05am

Hey, {Miss Trixie}
What's up, chickie?

736 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:14:12am

Miss Trixie,

You Orangatang?

737 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:17:48am

Its like the good witch was calling for all of the munchkins to 'come out, come out, wherever you are' but then she ran off.

738 Miss Trixie  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:20:42am

Hello ellybelly. Busy busy busy today and I don't mind. Can't stay for more than a couple of minutes so I'll say goodbye for now and see you all tomorrow.

xoxo

739 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:23:34am

#736 Widow

You Orangatang?

Heh, reminds me of one of my favorite Disney songs from those video tapes the kids used to watch a few years ago.


Now I'm the king of the swingers
Oh, the jungle VIP
I've reached the top and had to stop
And that's what botherin' me
I wanna be a man, mancub
And stroll right into town
And be just like the other men
I'm tired of monkeyin' around!

Oh, oobee doo
I wanna be like you
I wanna walk like you
Talk like you, too
You'll see it's true
An ape like me
Can learn to be humen too

Gee, cousin Louie
You're doin' real good

Now here's your part of the deal, cuz
Lay the secret on me of man's red fire

But I don't know how to make fire

Now don't try to kid me, mancub
I made a deal with you
What I desire is man's red fire
To make my dream come true
Give me the secret, mancub
Clue me what to do
Give me the power of man's red flower
So I can be like you

You!
I wanna be like you
I wanna talk like you
Walk like you, too
You'll see it's true
Someone like me
Can learn to be
Like someone like me
Can learn to be
Like someone like you
Can learn to be
Like someone like me!


:)

NMM

740 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:27:44am

^^^addendum

My PC here doesn't have sound but it appears that you might be able to listen to the song here.

741 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:31:38am

I thought this was the down & dirty thread, not the Disney ditty thread!
:D

742 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:32:49am

NMM,

My Pc doesn't have speakers here at woik, and I miss all the Audio stuff.

Sometimes, I think I'm as hairy as King Louie.

How are the weather conditions for tonight's ballgame?

743 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:33:13am

741 Red

they're balancing out my 728

744 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:34:21am

Scarlett,

Now that you're here, I guess it's Beauty and the Beasts.

745 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:34:43am

#741 redstate

Disney is very subliminal...

"king of the swingers"

"red flower"

"lay the secret on me"


...I'll bet you buy lots-o-stuff without even realizing it was because of the beefcake spokesperson!

sheesh, I gotta explain everything.

LOL

NMM

746 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:36:13am

"Beauty and the Beast... but if anyone else calls you beast, i'll tear their lungs out."

-Joker

747 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:36:34am
I guess it's Beauty and the Beasts


Either that or Lady & the Tramp(s)!

748 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:36:47am

#742 Widow

From memory only, the weather for tonight's game should be clear skies with temps at gametime in the low 50's, high 40's. Probably be into the 30's before its over. They are already predicting a rainout for tomorrow and perhaps even on Thursday.

NMM

749 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:38:12am
...I'll bet you buy lots-o-stuff without even realizing it was because of the beefcake spokesperson!


Hunh-unh; I really do like I Can't Believe it's not Butter!

750 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:38:49am

NMM,

"lay the secret on me"

Does that mean your pits stink, or is that some way of telling the bride you want sumpin?

751 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:41:44am

I'm off to therapy, but I'll be back in about an hour.
If y'all leave before me, good night & be good.

752 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:42:03am

#750 Widow

:D

lay = (obvious)

secret = as in 'secret weapon', ie love missle, etc.

on me = give it to me baby

:D :D :D

NMM

753 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:43:13am

Scarlett,



Either that or Lady & the Tramp(s)!

How bout Snow White and the Several Dweeps.

754 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:45:20am

since there's just three of us:

Two Dips and a dad.

(which one of you two gets to be Dad?)

755 newmelleman  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:47:28am

Meeting.

BBIIC

(be back if I can)

NMM

756 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:48:37am

NMM,

secret = as in 'secret weapon', ie love missle, etc.

Maybe you could use the 007 gig on NMW, like you need her to help save mankind or sumpin.

How bout "One-eyed Hoagie" deliveryman is knocking at your door Baby.

757 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:51:25am

Lance,

(which one of you two gets to be Dad?)

I'm the oldest, pick me, pick me.

I forgot to tell, as of Saturday, I'm a GREAT-Uncle. My sister's daughter-in-law had a widdle boy. I am getting old.

758 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 10:54:47am

Yay Widow!

If it makes you feel younger, i'm only 27, and I'm a great-uncle.

and he turns 2 in February.

759 W-lover  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:03:09am

Hiya Fellas!

This isn't an all boy thread, is it?

760 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:07:06am

Princess W,

It was temporarily, but the musty air has been replaced with a sweet fragrance now.

761 W-lover  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:08:39am

Is this thing on?

762 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:12:57am

not anymore

763 LanceKates  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:14:07am

not anymore is to the 'this isn't an all boy thread'...

not to the 'is this thing on?" part.

764 W-lover  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:15:10am

My co-work said he thought of me while reading Get Fuzzy today...

Maybe it's the pictures of Paris under my mat that I stomp on while singing "AMERICA!..."

765 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:20:26am

Princess W,

Did you buy any stock in Puke-joe or Renault yet? Those "Youths" are averaging like 100 cars a night. Couldn't they just find some old scrap wood if they wanted to have a campfire?

766 W-lover  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:23:10am

Widow-

Funny- I was just telling someone today about the fwench cars...

I'm too much of a franco-phobe to buy any fwench stock...just wine.

Sorry- but the wine makers love Americans.

767 W-lover  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:29:23am

Dang! I hate doing these legal descriptions!

*sigh* I'll be running late tonight and by the time I get home, you boys will be gone. It was fun while it lasted...

768 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:30:16am

Princess W,

There are many French Companies that have plants in the US. Nestles and Michelin come to mind. Actually, I think Foreign-owned Companies employ about 10 million Americans.

Not much of a wine drinker, but I do like Beer once in awhile. Canadians make good beer, and Microbrews are pretty good. We have the Country's Oldest Brewery (Yuengling) in the area.

I still drive my 94 S-10 Blazer around, and I also have an F250 truck. Our family has all Amurcan cars. They work fine.

How's the weather in MN?

769 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:36:03am
770 Widow'smight  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 11:37:58am

DDT,

See ya tomorrow.

771 m  Tue, Oct 24, 2006 1:11:38pm

#769 taxfreekiller

tease


This entry has been archived.
Comments are closed.

^ back to top ^

log in
Name:
Pass:

Register Forgot Your Password? My Account Re-send Confirmation (To log in, cookies must be enabled in your browser!)

► LGF Headlines

  • Loading...

► Top 10 Comments

  • Loading...

► Bottom Comments

  • Loading...

► Recent Comments

  • Loading...

► Tools/Info

► LGF Hits

► Slideshows

► Resources

► Never Forget

► Statistics

► Tag Cloud

► Contact

You must have Javascript enabled to use the contact form.
Your email:

Subject:

Message:


Messages may be published in our weblog, unless you request otherwise.
Tech Note:
Using the Contact Form

► News/Opinion

  • Loading...

More Partners

Compare Electricity Prices in your area. Texas Electricity is deregulated; you have the right to choose Texas Electric Rates from among many Texas Electric Companies.

Don't crush that dwarf, hand me the pliers.

Follow Lizardoid on Twitter
Follow Charles on True/Slant

All-New BN Kids Store! Inspiring curious minds everyday.

 Frank says:

Never stop until your good becomes better, and your better becomes the best.

Harry Potter Books - New in Paperback!