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Wed, Nov 8, 2006 at 7:32:05 am PST

Good morning, lizards! Our job of saving the world just got a little harder, with the appeasement and anger party in control of the House (and possibly the Senate too).

Over at the New York Times “political blog,” they’ve picked a few comments from our open thread #4 to illustrate what they call “Sour Gripes,” and completely misrepresented the overall tone of that thread. (So what else is new?)

And the subliterate morons at Democratic Underground get right to the point: TIME TO IMPEACH!!

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1 Hazmat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:33:51am

Election hangover!

2 shug  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:34:10am

RINO's reap what they sow.

Now maybe we can get some real conservatives who will act like conservatives, and not like RINO Clinton-lite

Too bad the country has to suffer in the meantime

3 white rabbit  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:34:36am

You know the difference between us and them? I didn't wake up this morning and have a massive freak-out. It sucks, but life goes on.

4 Let's Roll  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:34:57am

I can't believe the only group that *stopped* amnesty for illegals -- the House GOP -- got booted. This is the start of something very bad I fear.

5 Hazmat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:34:58am

I just felt my taxes rise.

6 Right Brain  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:35:13am

The Republicans deserve this, but the country does not.

7 mbruce  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:35:45am

Our job is to get through the next two years, and to keep them from taking away the second amendment.

8 loppyd  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:35:47am

I said it on the dead thread and I'll say it again. It's time to buck up, regroup, recharge and go to the mattresses for '08.

9 PatriotLizardoid  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:36:03am

The first thing I'm doing at work today is redoing my W4 so more taxes get withheld. Ugh

10 mazeman  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:36:54am

Here's my blog post linking the election results, Britney Spear's divorce, and the victory for Islamists.

11 SpartanWoman  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:37:05am

They really never publish the vile remarks on the lefty sites do they?

To let the nation read the anti-Israeli, anti-semitic and just plain anti-American comments on those sites would hurt the causes they love most!

You're right Charles, the job is a little harder, now.

12 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:37:14am

I think that the Republicans need to say the following:

"It is now time for the Democrats to help unite the country by adopting Republican initiative without opposition. Otherwise, we will scream at them and call them petty and partisan."

It worked for the Dems

13 Cartman  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:37:39am

Man, I kept having some really bad dreams last night.

14 jgold  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:37:44am

Let's not get too upset- Reagan had much larger Dem majorities and he did okay.

Also most of the Dem pickups were very conservative donkeys and they will never do a Vietnam and stop funding the war. If they even think about it they will get killed in '08.

On a positive note here in California we actually elected a few Repubs to some executive positions- Gov, Lt. Gov., i think Sec. of State and Insurance Commish- that is a big positive for the party in the state.

I do think it is time to let Rummy go- Bush needs to do something to show he understands the nation is pissed at Iraq.

15 quercus albus  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:37:51am

Right Brain #6 - what you said.

Hold on, folks. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

/problem with diebold? what problem with diebold? dhimmi off/

16 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:37:53am

Just to really cheer folks up I should point out that today is the Anniversary of the Beer Hall Putsch.

Of course the kid-glove treatment given to the perps in this event had dire results ten years later.

Just as the Republican failure to prosecute traitors from the Vietnam era has now resulted in the domination of the Democratic party by the very same treasonous trash.

In government, being nice to the bad guys is not an option.

17 Hazmat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:37:55am

I see the Dow responded accordingly.

18 Shane  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:38:07am

It makes you wonder if they know what an impeachment is or what would be required to get an impeachment. Of course the first thing they will need is something to impeach him for. Desire for impeachment is not really a charge of impeachment.

19 mike(in)savage  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:38:10am

Strange, but I can't seem to get this image out of my head this morning.

20 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:38:24am

Hey!

How come zombie gets to be in the NYT and the rest of us don't?

My comments were plenty pessimistic and negative! I've been sucking on sour grapes all night!

21 mglazer  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:38:48am

Today the west got weaker and the east got stronger

Score this one for the terrorists

Well at least this gaurantees us 2008!

a dem congress for two years ought to be about the most the american people can handle

we'll see - westerners are gluttons for punishment

22 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:38:59am

If you want to see petty, look at what the petty victors have in mind -

List of investigations

23 DesertSage  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:39:01am

I don't want to hear any crying and whining!
Democrats cry and whine!
The GOP lost because they have become complacent! They haven't passed any meaningful bills in years.

Don't blame the MSM. Don't blame the Dems, lest we start sounding like them!

Let's just start today and move forward to a victory in '08!

24 rapnuc753  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:39:33am

Nothing is forever

These people can have all that hoopla they want.

I hope the republicans, those that have not offed themselves have learned something.

Sticking to core values means something.

My wife and I agree on a single point, they the 94 republicans turned into quasi democrats.

More bickering fighting and conflict on the horizon.

Good bring it on, that which does not kill me makes me - - - well you get the picture.

Nancy Pelosi> What a mental midget.

The others, they'll be gone soon as well.

2 years to train up non surrendering republican CONSERVATIVES.


rapnuc753

25 Cognito  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:39:34am

I can't stand it when somebody comes along and cherry-picks comments from LGF and holds them up, as though they represent one monolithic opinion. The only representative here is Charles, and he represents himself.

It's just bad journalism.

26 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:39:53am

I fucking hate Ross McGowan on KTVU "news". This morning, this lovely gem, came popping out of his mouth:

"Democrats gained many state Governorships, but California is still stuck with a Republican for another four years."

"Stuck" with Schwarzennegger? Did Ross not see the election results, where members of both parties overwhelmingly voted for the re-election of a wildly popular Governor? The only thing we seem to be stuck with is "reporters" like McGowan passing off their editorials as news. He also said that Pombo was "hurt by a visit from Bush, whose approval ratings are in the 20s". Every poll I've seen for the last two weeks straight have put Bush's approval ratings in the mid 40s. I guess month old polls can be recycled as "news" here in the Gay Area.

27 Stratergic Thinking  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:40:14am

Well this is another fine mess we've gotten ourselves into...


This doesn't look good for my retirement plan.

My predictions:

the tax cut roll backs will roll back the economy across the board. The stock market will take a hit.

our record indexes, low unemployment, and general economic growth will now go into suspended animation as people will turtle up waiting to see what will happen.

our border fence won't happen. We'll still be seeing southern hospitals closing under the load of illegals.


Bush's judges will never see the light of day. and there will be a future legislating from the bench like never before.

the Elephants need to start developing strong candiates across the board for the next go round.

28 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:40:30am
I said it on the dead thread and I'll say it again. It's time to buck up, regroup, recharge and go to the mattresses for '08.

Go to the mattress? Naughty.

29 mazeman  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:40:53am

#2

RINO's reap what they sow.

Now maybe we can get some real conservatives who will act like conservatives, and not like RINO Clinton-lite

How does one explain Santorum's loss?

30 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:41:14am

Here's a thought: Thank God the Republicans never pulled the trigger on the nuclear option in the Senate.

31 EtNorskTroll  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:41:16am

I'm moving to Mars...anyone want to join me?
I'll be starting a Webblog up there called "Little Green Men"...

Rocket will be leaving at noon. RSVP if you want to go with.

We'll have a great view of America and the rest of the free countries getting beat into submission by the Islamofascists.

/trying to make the best of a very bad situation

~Norsk Troll

32 Beagle  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:41:21am

This is a bit like what was attempted with HAMAS. It's easy to sit on the outside and urge destruction, but much more difficult to lead. It didn't work with HAMAS.

The global jihad will still be kicking in 2008 whatever anyone does. Rust never sleeps. The Democrats can grow up and face the new reality or continue to repeat platitudes from a different past era.

They say they're for "change." That's like being for gravity. Things always change. The question is whether leadership acknowledges the changes and reacts properly. The sahwa Islamia is creating sharia, dhimmitude, death, eroding secular law, government, and freedom all over the world. What are you going to do about it, Donks?

33 NiceLass  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:41:22am

So it's time for "change." The dems will change from infantile behavior to juvenille behavior.

34 E.T.  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:41:41am

I don’t think there will be impeachment. It would mean airing all of the Dems dirty laundry and hypocrisy since the war started. It would be devastating to them for the 08 elections.

35 Hazmat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:41:53am

Hamas Urges Muslims Around World to Attack U.S.

Others aren't waiting either.

36 red satellite  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:42:04am

May I take a moment to remind everyone who may be leading the Ways and Means committee? I'll give you a hint: he rhymes with MANGLE.

The Committee on Ways and Means is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over all taxation, tariffs and other revenue-raising measures, as well as a number of other programs including:

Social Security
Unemployment benefits
Medicare
Enforcement of child support laws
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, a federal welfare program
Foster care and adoption programs

This is the reality of what Americans did last night.

37 shug  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:42:19am

29 mazeman

How does one explain Santorum's loss?

colateral damage, unfortunately.

38 Arashi  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:42:21am

I gotta agree with Right Brain here on this one--the Republicans kinda screwed themselves over and, in a sense, deserve the loss, but the nation is going to suffer because of it. The only good part is that Bush will still have veto power if they try anything really "stupid."

Still, Pelosi...scary stuff, there.

39 Capt. Queeg  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:42:48am

Need to get back to the spirit of '94, folks. And we need a Communicator, and that sure ain't W.

40 friarstale  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:43:06am

well, it's nice the NYT led with a Zombie quotation

Congrats, Zombie

and it may just lead to chaos in January

41 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:43:11am

Time to put up a New York Times counter, under Reuters.

42 Shane  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:43:11am

To 14#

I would say you are dead wrong. They will do the Vietnam defunding. They still haven't taken responsibility for the million dead Vietnamese they abandoned. Do you really think they don't want the same thing to happen again? They want the death and destruction. They want the US to lose. Some of those people still mourn the loss of the USSR.

43 cblesz  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:43:16am

We cannot whine about it. We live in a democracy and the people have spoken. Unfortunately, the average American was unaware of who would be taking over critical posts:

Pelosi-speaker
Hoyer-majority leader
Dingell-energy and commerce
Hastings-Intelligence
Rangel-ways and means
Frank-financial services
Conyers-Judiciary
Waxman-Gov't reform

Truly frightening. The way I look at the election is people are unhappy with the war in Iraq. Let's face it, the war is not going well. We SHOULD have gone in there, but let's finish the job. In addition, the media helped in negative stories about the war and the economy. I for one am sick to my stomach. But, a lot of the Dems elected are conservative. Now, the Dems have some power...let's hear "their plan". I hope and prey that we do not cut an run and that the Dems realize that the Islamofascists will not stop trying to kill us until their flag flies over the White House.

44 mglazer  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:43:36am

Oh well

There goes the surging economy !

You wanted change from no terror attacks and a strong economy - well you'll get it alright

check out this toon:
[Link: www.townhall.com...]

and others
[Link: www.townhall.com...]

Al quaeda and osama are happy at the weak willed westerners

REpublicans let's use this setback to invigorate our base and retake 2008 with a huge bang!

45 DesertSage  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:43:43am

#30 Lizard by the Bay

Here's a thought: Thank God the Republicans never pulled the trigger on the nuclear option in the Senate.

Great point!
That means that the Republicans will be able to fillibuster anything the Dems throw at them.

46 GOPokie  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:44:00am

yes, the Repubs screwed themselves. Glenn Beck is talking about that right now. It sucks! wonder what's gonna happen at the next terrorist attack?

47 ShumBaayaMyLord  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:44:44am

One headache (indeed, risk to US and global security) that I foresee is that it will be tremendously harder, if not impossible, for the POTUS to replace Condi Rice--something that urgently needs doing. She and her puppet-master Philip Zelikow are not simply defeatists and suck-ups to the Islamic world, they are TDD (Twit Despite Doctorate) defeatists.

48 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:44:44am

If this Congress goes to war with the oval office and tries to impeach, I hope Bush takes a slash & burn policy on everything that comes out of Congress for the next two years. I hope to see vetoes on top of vetoes. I hope to see governmnet shutdown. I hope to see a defiant Commander in Cheif tell COngress to go to hell on matters of Iraq.

In other words, I hope that Bush has the stones to take these cretins on.

49 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:45:06am

Two years of endless turmoil, subpeonas, and investigations ahead. Plus gridlock.

50 MoleOnABull  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:45:13am

Goodmorning everyone!

Yey!

New thread.

Boo!

Dems have some control.

51 mglazer  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:45:16am

Here comes a democrat Military Draft

with an end to military funding

higher taxes for all

weaker economy

larger welfare and handouts across the board

impeachment


non stop capital investigations

That oughta help us take it all back in 2008!

52 Hazan-Khan-(Secret)-Apostate-In-Pakistan  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:45:33am

Well, the Democrat victory may at least lessen some of Mahathir's "horror and disgust":


Mahathir expresses "horror and disgust" at Saddam sentence

Kuala Lumpur: Malaysia's former prime minister Mahathir Mohamad on Tuesday expressed "horror and disgust" over the trial and sentencing of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to death.

"Firstly a court set up by his enemies has no right to try Saddam Hussein," said Mahathir, a member of the international committee for the defence of president Saddam Hussein.

He described the Iraqi high tribunal as a "kangaroo court" set up for the sole purpose of rendering a guilty verdict.

"There was no evidence that (ex-) president Saddam Hussein was involved in the killings of Shi'ites in 1982, yet the court found him guilty," he said.

Mahathir said if Saddam was guilty as charged, then US President George W Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair should be tried for the unlawful invasion and occupation of Iraq and the deaths of over 650 000 Iraqis.

Mahathir stepped down as Malaysian premier three years ago.

Saddam was sentenced to hang by the Iraqi high tribunal, which found him guilty on Sunday of crimes against humanity in the case of 148 Shi'ite civilians who were killed in revenge for a 1982 attempt on his life.

53 Cry of defiance and not of fear  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:45:37am

Would all the Lizards please move in a controlled, calm manner away from the cliff's precipice? You are blocking the path of the Lemmings.

Thank you.

All reasonable people know that mid-term election gains for 'opposition parties' are generally poisoned chalice victories. They have the choice to be obstructionist, and therefore blamed for the final years of the incumbent party, or if unable to assert their own programmes, then deemed unlikely to pass muster for the big job in a few years' time. Be grateful that the Dhimmis have placed themselves in the unforgiving spotlight. Re-group, rethink and recharge one's resources.

54 quercus albus  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:45:53am

#23 D Sage On that note, what are the issues that we would like to see Republican candidates take seriously. A beginning list

1- Fair Tax
2- LIMITED GOVERNMENT
3- Stopping illegal immigration (of course after two years, the ones here will not be illegal, but...

55 jwm  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:45:58am

Screw the house. Screw the senate. What we need are universities, television networks and major newspapers. The left's ideas would shrivel like vampires in a sunrise if they were exposed to honest debate in an open forum. As it is we have word of mouth, talk radio, and the blogosphere against the most sophisticated brainwashing system in the history of the world. We are like one guy with a paper megaphone against the sound system for an outdoor rock concert. In the meantime: NO WHINERS!

JWM

56 mglazer  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:46:39am

Hamas has their first man in US COngress thanks to the Minnesotan Somalians

Nice - how far off is democrat sponsored Sharia/facist UK like law in the USA?

57 csva  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:46:52am

"may you live in interesting times."?
Or something like that is I think an old curse in Chinese and maybe also from the mid-east. Now that I think of it...I think I heard Mark Steyn say it on Hewitts show a while back.

58 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:47:21am

Charles calls it the morning after. I call it the mourning after. But don't go blaming NJ for this one. This wasn't so much about Bush bashing as the media wants folks to believe. If it were, then blue state NJ would have tossed aside House GOPers. They didn't.

Something else was at play. Call it dealing with corruption, not getting out the vote, or simply having inadequate candidates, the GOP simply didn't close the deal.

That shouldn't be entirely unexpected in a second term midterm election. The party in power usually loses seats. It's what the Democrats intend to do with their newfound power that is worrisome.

Will they start the investigating and impeachment talk or are they going to govern responsibly.

If the Dems are smart, they'll put all that impeachment talk and investigative stuff on the back burner. If they don't, it will become a central issue in the 2008 election - one that the GOP should use to show that the Democrats are completely incapable of governing. They may like the power, but they're using it to score political points, not lead.

If the Senate goes to the Dems, watch for the left wing to become ever more strident. The siren call for impeachment will only grow if the Senate goes to the Democrats, because they think that they'll have the numbers to try.

59 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:48:45am

Supposedly the people voted for change. Well, if their taxes start going up, change is all they may have left.

I'm waiting for some of my dopey LLL relatives in NY State to start whining when their property taxes going up and major corporations flee the state en masse.

Then they'll wonder why I'm snickering while pointing at them.

60 Shane  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:48:46am

Maybe some good will come of it. Maybe nothing will get done but bitching and moaning and PR shots out of congress. This could be a good thing. Congress passing laws hasn't necessarily meant progress. Dead lock could be the vacation we need.

61 EtNorskTroll[deleted]  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:48:48am
62 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:48:52am

Actually it isn't so terrible.

Americans must remember that they have one ace in the hole that virtually every other Western nation lacks:

The Second Amendment

Your Founders saw clearly the need for this robust safeguard against tyranny. Just make sure that should the Dems ever try to get "British" on your asses (i.e., try to confiscate all firearms, as the British have done) that you exercise that sacred right and chase 'em off.

63 Arashi  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:48:56am

For the record--I'm not whining. Yes, it sucks, but I'm not about to go screaming for massive recounts. ;)

64 MoleOnABull  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:49:12am

#55

I'm in college right now, and you couldn't be closer to the truth.

65 friarstale  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:49:34am

51
agree
this sets us up for 2008

how fast will the Dems screw our country with higher taxes and screw the Middle East by withdrawing from Iraq, allowing Iran and Syria a free hand?

good-bye Lebanon
sorry

66 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:49:46am

Now, the question is will political bashers like Jon Stewart go after Dems not that they are more or less in control of almost everything but the oval office?

67 Wisenheimer  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:49:53am

Democrats win.

America loses.

Higher taxes. Surrender to Islamic totalitarianism. Death culture. Resentment as a philosophy.

The country has two years to wake up.

68 Geepers  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:50:17am

Look at the bright side.

Now we will finally get to hear the vaunted "Plan" and at last get the winning strategy they have for Iraq implemented.

In fact I think the President should go on TV and say just that: "I look forward to the Democrat controlled congress delivering a bill with their strategy to win the war Iraq."

EVERYDAY. UNTIL NOV7, 2008.

69 Arashi  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:51:32am

#68 - That made me grin. A light in the dark, that'll be. *g*

70 MoleOnABull  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:51:39am

#68

Yes, can't wait to hear it... if it comes

71 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:51:49am
The first car bomb that goes off in America will mean Republicans getting the House, Senate and WH in '08.

When the Dems tie out hands on the WOT and we get attacked here again, it will be interesting to see how they try to blame Bush for the attack.

Problem in Minnesota is that the liberals are now firmly in control of the state legislature and my try to repeal conceal and carry.

72 friarstale  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:52:13am

still, I hope the Republicans fight like men posessed for all the close Senate seats

recounts, fraud-hunting, ballot-tossing, the whole nine yards

they might not even have to look very hard, just don't walk away

73 MoleOnABull  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:52:24am

#70

/sarc

74 realwest  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:52:26am

Said it on the Dead Thread and I'm saying it again: I'm absolutely astonished at how many Americans voted FOR candidates (Dems) with absolutely no idea of what the candidates stand for.
Exit polls indicated that most voters were concerned about corruption, economy, terrorism and Iraq. All we really know about the Dems (or at least all that they really have said so far) is that they want out of Iraq, that they want to dramatically increase the minimum wage and provide health care services more inexpensively. And oh yeah, roll back the Tax cuts that have the Dow at it's highest level ever and unemployment below 4.5% and they want to gut the Patriot Act.
I fear for our allies if we pull out of Iraq (especially Israel)but am heartened at how Hillary must be upset over a House Speaker Pelosi!

75 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:52:32am

#55 jwm

The Communists had a list of goals to implement Socialism here in America during the cold war. The Soviet Union may be gone, but that program lives on, and it is now almost complete. The commies have nearly 100% control of the media and schools. It is inevitable, under this scenario, that everything that has made this country great will be eliminated within our lifetimes.

We only think we won the cold war. But in 50 years this will be a Socialist nation, because the next generations of voters have been raised with the belief that Government is the answer to everything and Capitalism is evil. We already lost the most important fight (against communism). The fact that we will lose to Islamism really doesn't matter at this point.

76 irish19  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:53:04am

I like what Beagle said. The world has changed a lot since the 'rats were last in power. Their leadership has not. Pelosi talked about a new direction. I think it's backwards to 9/10. However, that ain't gonna happen and wishing won't make it so.
#7mbruce-welcome back. Feeling any better this morning? You were a wreck last night.

77 JKWEST  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:53:14am
what’s the problem ? the republicans didn’t carry the public.. big deal. Now the dems have a couple of years to show their stuff or blow it. The pendulum swings.. any student of politics knows this is just a shift…maybe for the good. we will survive. the country will get stronger because of this election and the world will be better.
Republicans and conservitives.. chill. It is not the end of the world.
Democrats and liberals…don’t get too cocky, just do right.

— Posted by chad christie

The only quote in that whole blog that actually made a little sense. And he has a nice upbeat attitude about what has happened. Reading this quote actually helped me out this morning. No, I'm not leaning left, don't worry guys..

78 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:53:52am

Fer cryin out loud, let's not hope for a new attack. Gahh. They're democrats, you know, fellow Americans, not martians.

79 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:54:10am

58 lawhawk

If the Senate goes to the Dems, watch for the left wing to become ever more strident. The siren call for impeachment will only grow if the Senate goes to the Democrats, because they think that they'll have the numbers to try.

On what grounds? It wasn't that long ago that they were saying that perjury "didn't rise to the level" of impeachment. What "high crimes and misdemeanors" are they going to charge him with? Saying "nukuler"?

80 subliminator  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:54:11am

to continue with similar thoughts from #53:

When the sun rises each day over Washington DC, two words are always kissed by sunlight (or like today, rain) on the East face of the Washington Monument. Laus Deo. Regroup, rethink, and recharge one's resources (thank you, Cry of Defiance).

81 SlapLeather  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:54:22am

The Morning After...

Isn't there a pill for this?

82 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:54:22am

#66 Dave the...

The MSM does lampoon the Democrats, but in a far more "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" poking fun manner than the scurrilous slander they typically aim toward conservatives.

Jon Stewart will make fun of Nancy Pelosi's bad hair day, but he will compare conservatives to Nazis (almost).

83 loppyd  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:54:26am

Geepers

In fact I think the President should go on TV and say just that: "I look forward to the Democrat controlled congress delivering a bill with their strategy to win the war Iraq."

EVERYDAY. UNTIL NOV7, 2008.

I'm with you. Better to be on the offensive at all times.

84 Dustoff-507  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:54:32am
But, a lot of the Dems elected are conservative.

Pardon me... Is there any proof of this?

NO.

What they say and what they do is two very different stories!

Remember that please.

85 Karagush  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:54:34am

#59 JWF
Kinda says it for me.
I do agree that the result of an attack here after this vote will prolly result in a turnaround in the general "ADD voter" 'tude.

"Wow!" they might think. "It really does matter who funds things! There IS a difference between Dems and R's!"

And then the Dems will not be able to pin sole blame for any attack on the republicans.

This might be better for 08.

But my Taxes are gonna suck

86 Green helmet guy  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:54:36am

#46 GOPokie:
"wonder what's gonna happen at the next terrorist attack?"


next terror attack and the democrats motion to join the caliphate!
ra'allas and burkas for all woohoo!

87 Owl  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:54:51am

what? no quotes from the owl? dern it, i was gonna be a STAR, baby. a STAR i tells ya.


oh well.

88 MoleOnABull  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:54:58am

#74

The crazy thing to me is that a lot of these "moderate Dems" that won... once they get to Washington they'll realize very quickly: you either toe the party line or you lose your career.

89 Powderfinger  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:55:13am

#68 Geepers

Now we will finally get to hear the vaunted "Plan" and at last get the winning strategy they have for Iraq implemented.

Exactly. Now they have to actually unveil that mysterious plan.

Thank God it's only 2 years.

90 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:55:18am

The Morning After

GOD I hate that song...

91 realwest  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:55:22am

#56 mglazer - Are you sure you mean HAMMAS? I thought they elected a Black Muslim to Congress?

92 maddogg  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:55:55am

If the Donks start all of that impeachment bullshit, they will put the GOP back in in "08 for sure. I am hoping GWB wakes up and smells the outhouse. If he will close the open borders and deport the illegals flooding our country, and get to prosecuting the war in Iraq, ie kill off the people who have a vested interest in civil war, he can get it all back in "08. If not, its sameoldsameold. I'm not so certain the American People don't have the stomach for a protracted battle, but they are tired of seeing little or nothing changing in Iraq. So am I. This is an opportunity for a big takeover for the GOP in '08, or a chance to move into obscurity.
No guts, no glory. (And screw Nancy Polosi, she is good for the GOP, hide and watch).

93 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:56:26am

#78 Peacekeeper

They're democrats, you know, fellow Americans, not martians.

I'm not so sure. They certainly seem to be acting like agents of foreign governments. And I'm sure they'll want the EU to ratify everything they do.

94 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:56:27am

Lawhawk's spot on. Incumbent GOPers in NJ all won. My congressman won with 62%. Mike Ferguson won the only close race for a GOP incumbent.

However, don't ever forget the Senate requires 67 votes for impeachment, and that will never happen. If the Democrats drag us through that, there will be blowback.

Anyway folks, as I tried to hammer home on the rather negative deadthread, stay positive.

95 Lousy-ana-Texan  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:56:42am

Does this mean I'm famous because the NY Slimes quoted me?

I hope not.

96 Cartman  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:56:44am

#43 cblesz

Unfortunately, the average American was unaware of who would be taking over critical posts:

Even more unfortunately, the average American doesn't even know who those people are.

97 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:56:52am

#78 Peacekeeper:

Hear, hear.


#79 E2M:

What "high crimes and misdemeanors" are they going to charge him with?

Oh, come on, didn't you get the memo? Torture! Illegal detention! War crimes! Transporting a hurricane across state lines for immoral purposes! Etc. etc.

98 Elric66  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:56:53am
#78 Peacekeeper 11/8/2006 07:53AM PST
Fer cryin out loud, let's not hope for a new attack. Gahh. They're democrats, you know, fellow Americans, not martians.

They are Americans but not really loyal

99 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:57:23am

Has anyone seen the movie Miracle, which is about the 1980 US Hockey team's vivtory over the Soviets in the Olympics? It's really a great film. It begins with an opening montage of the 1970s - Watergate, defeat in Vietnam, Russians in Afghanistan, the Iran embassy takeover. The 1970s were a disaster for Western Civilization - and that's not even taking in consideration the clothes & music of the 70's. I think that with last night's election, we've started to replay that sad era. Of course America will survive the 2006 elections - my concerns are what happens between now & mere survival. Our fellow Americans sent a message to our enemies last night - that we don't have the will to fight a long, hard war. (Though by any standard of history except our new post-modern standards, the Iraq war hasn't been long & costly - no offense meant to all who have lost someone in the war). We sent a message to any allies in the Middle East & the world at large that we won't stick our neck out for you. With hearings & possibly impeachment not too far off, we've sent a message to our enemies that we'll prosecute our own leaders for no other crime than fighting this war against them. I hope I'm wrong in my fears of a 70's revivial, but if trends continue & bell bottoms start to make a comeback, we're in big trouble.

100 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:57:51am

Where! WHERE?

101 Owl  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:58:29am

It's just bad journalism.

and isn't it always? even the most conservative of old media would rather lick a leftists boots than to report anything in favor of conservatives...

102 Arashi  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:58:57am

No one should be advocating an attack on America just because the Dems are in charge. *wince* It may be more likely if the Dems are majorly changing things in regards to national security and the like, but I still hope we don't have an attack.

103 J.D.  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:59:34am
Transporting a hurricane across state lines for immoral purposes!


Funny, but I can't laugh.
:(

104 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:59:50am
The MSM does lampoon the Democrats, but in a far more "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" poking fun manner than the scurrilous slander they typically aim toward conservatives.

Yep, the "critisim" the entertainment types give Dems is that they are disorganized.

105 Buckeye Abroad  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:59:55am

87 percent of Jews vote Democrat

Democratic Party wins largest percentage of Jewish support since 1994. Elections expert: Jews voted for candidates good for Israel, but also focused on other issues.

106 Elric66  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:59:57am
#102 Arashi 11/8/2006 07:58AM PST
No one should be advocating an attack on America just because the Dems are in charge. *wince* It may be more likely if the Dems are majorly changing things in regards to national security and the like, but I still hope we don't have an attack.

I hope not but it will much more likely

107 Quintus_Arius  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:00:53am

For the most part, congress turned on the success of 'Lieberman Democrats'. The next two years will be interesting.

Some predictions:

- Bush won't be threatened with impeachment

- The Patriot Act will remain

- NSA Surveilance will remain

- Iraq will wind down, but with a large US air-base presence at the request of Iraqi gov't

- Social security issues will remain contentious

- Dems will not alter Bush stance on Iran/NK

- Taxes..no change until 2010

- Bush holds irreversible veto club

- Supreme Court (uh-oh)...

108 J.D.  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:01:13am

#105 BuckeyeAbroad
That's something I will never understand.

109 Arashi  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:01:26am

#106 - I think it will be much more likely as well, but I'm still hoping beyond hope that nothing happens.

110 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:01:41am

Here, the one incumbant Republican congressman who lost ran to the center. In another district, the lady ran to the right and won big time.

111 InfidelAl  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:01:47am

Okay we lost, time goes on. It’s useless to sit about, do nothing and cry more. It's just as useless to sit about, do nothing and say that '08 will be better.

We need action.

The dhimmicrats would not be near the political force without the crutch of the media. It seems like we need to be more aggressive in countering their crutch. Often times we read the completely biased reports the MSM puts forth as fact, complain about it amongst ourselves and that's it. That will not change their behavior.

Lizard by the Bay posted the following:

...Ross McGowan on KTVU "news". This morning, this lovely gem, came popping out of his mouth:

"Democrats gained many state Governorships, but California is still stuck with a Republican for another four years."


Well, here's the station's email
news@ktvu.com

Let them know what you think, albeit politely. Complaining amongst ourselves (a.k.a. Preaching to the Choir) isn't going to help us prepare for '08! Maybe, just maybe, with enough public pressure these outlets will tone down their rhetoric.

112 loppyd  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:01:53am

Peacekeeper

Go to the mattress? Naughty.

Obscure Godfather reference...

113 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:02:06am

97 Occasional Reader

Oh, come on, didn't you get the memo? Torture! Illegal detention! War crimes!

I'm not sure if that's serious, but I can actually see them doing that. And that would almost certainly blow up in their faces like an Acme detonator in Wyle E. Coyote's face.

Let 'em. If there's one thing this bunch has no shortage of it's arrogance and conceit. I want them to act boldly. They very well could turn things around in two years with enough bold action.

114 jgold  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:02:26am

#42

I'm not saying most dems don't want to cut funding for Iraq- but they don't have that great a majority so all of them must come on board. Guys like Heath Shuler and any Dem in the South for that matter will not go along with a de-funding of Iraq. The loonies like Hastings, Conyers, Kucinich, and Bernie Sanders will have there subpoenas and their day in the sun but if they don't find scandal then they will look like fools and they will get killed in '08. Pelosi has to be very careful and I don't think she can do it.

By the way even though I am a Repub my rep. Jane Harmon (that's Charles' rep as well) is getting screwed by Pelosi and this is her first mistake.

115 Endangered in Mass  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:02:29am

#8 Loppy D

What she said.

If you don't like the results, ask your self did I do everything I could( preaching to the choir doesn't count)? I know I didn't.


The maximum effective range of an excuse is 0 meters.

This ain't DU so let's focus on what we can do together to make this country better now.This ain't no pity party.

116 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:04:40am
Ahhh...car bombs in the morning: Smells like victory.


Holy f**king shit.

What possesses someone to type something like this.

117 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:06:32am

Oh, and I hope they like the idea of President Cheney. And if they impeach one or the other, in the interrim, the acting president needs to make Bob Dornan or Newt Gingrich VP, so that when the other is impeached, they have a president from hell to deal with.

Or how about Rush Limbaugh?

118 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:06:32am

Does the NY Times have any pieces on the six years of LLL griping and suggestions of assassination?

I didn't think so.

119 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:07:56am

#113 E2M:

but I can actually see them doing that

I think the hard-left crazies will try, but fail to get it on the floor. The Dem party higher-ups will realize it would be politically disastrous for them.

120 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:08:34am

Loppy
...nope. Better drop it right now PK.

121 loppyd  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:08:53am

Endangered in Mass

Check out Howie's column when you have a sec.

Jammie

Check your email.

Jeez, I sound bossy. LOL!

Have to get some work done before the day gets completely away from me.

BBL

122 jwpaine  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:09:08am

#49 Ward Cleaver

In government, gridlock is good. King Log is emminently preferable to King Stork.

123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:09:09am

Charles, we need a cleanup in aisle #61 BAD! If a lib said the same thing, we'd justly call him a traitor. Norsktroll makes us all look like, well, traitors.

124 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:09:35am

Occasional Reader
There's some bizarro hysteria here.

125 dll2000  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:10:02am

Points: The Dem's pulled a stealth strategy. Nancy Pelosi, et al were no where to be seen during this campaign.

Several of the gains were made by Democrats running as conservatives.

Much of the conservative base stayed home rather than voted for them because they were pissed off that there didnt seem to be much difference between the way they ran things and the way the Dems ran things.

Most people (almost all) in my county dont understand why we are fighting in Iraq, they just see handsome pictures of 18 and 19 yr. old boys deceased on the front page of the local paper. Every person I spoke to this month (I work in a very public place) was wondering what we are doing there and didnt want us to be there anymore. This was especially so for women and older men. These are people in an overwhelmingly Republican county mind you. Nobody here wants their boys to die for Iraqi freedom. They dont care, and see no benefit in it for us. They see it as a civil war and wonder why we are involved at all. This what they have been saying (loudly) for the last month.

The fence probably isnt going to be built. The European Socialists have followed a successful strategy of bringing in immigrants (mostly muslims) to vote for them in the face of decreasing popularity. In the long run thats going to ruin their society of course, but it has worked magnificently for them in the short run and thats all they really care about.

This strategy is being duplicated in the U.S. where poor Mexicans are being brought in by the thousands and indoctrinated in liberal orthodoxy in our schools. All of todays hard workes are tomorrows welfare cases and gang members (why work? you have no chance in white america), just like the Muslims in Europe. If this continues in the long run conservativism is dead in this country by sheer demographics.

126 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:11:22am

#119 Occasional Reader

I think the hard-left crazies will try, but fail to get it on the floor. The Dem party higher-ups will realize it would be politically disastrous for them.

I disagree. It's the crazies who will get the leadership positions. The moderates will be disenfranchised. The house demo leadership is far more radical than the rank-and-file. Does Pelosi strike you as a moderate?

Just watch. I predict that even if they try to resist the urge, they won't be able to.

127 Buckeye Abroad  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:11:36am

#108 J.D.

That's something I will never understand.

No worries, they're just as misinformed as the rest of the American electorate.

Ever ask a person why they vote democrat [or Republican for that matter]? The answers I get usually leave me speechless. Pointing them to a few facts makes them uncomfortable leading to defensiveness and then irrational anger. Bubble bursting doesn't make you popular.

128 realwest  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:11:39am

#116 Occasional Reader - What stupid MoFo said that? Out here? Gotta report that to Charles asap.

129 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:11:56am

The comeback victory of Joe Lieberman should be a sobering rebuke to all the bomb throwing marxists over at the Democratic Party.

130 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:12:28am

Zombie made the Times!

Congratulations to the Democrats. The power is yours. I hope you brought your "A" game.

Welcome to Gridlock 2007. Start with an impeachment, mix in special committee investigations, and top with jockeying for position in the 2008 run for the White House.

Here on the ground, it's time for letters to the editor, relentless blogging, and partnering with College Republicans for campus events.

131 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:13:41am

#19
Yeah, I have the same image in my head too. Unfortunately running from Iraq will have far worse consequences than embarassment for us and a bloodbath for our friends. It will encourage our enemy, like running from Somolia did:

* So much for fighting them with our military far away, we can look forward to a bloody fight on our own soil.

Also, once we're out of Iraq, Iran will rush in and fill the vacuum behind us with the results:

* An Iranian nuclear bomb will be a "faut accompli"- great news considering the war will be coming to our soil.

* Of course $5 a gallon gas will be cheap, but that'll probably be the least of our worries.

Oh, and don't forget to start saving up now to pay your taxes- might want to consider dumping some of those stocks that are tanking right now to take a capital loss.

On the bright side, at least having Webb in the Senate will provide an endless source of amusement - being a loud mouth, a drunk, and an idiot is the perfect combination for political fun. If anybody is running an over/under for his first drunken run-in with the Capitol Police put me in for $10 on February 20 - 24 2007.

Sorry for the long post, but I had to vent and there are some really good folks here. I'm new here and I think this is my first post on a "live" thread.

Cheers!

132 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:13:45am

Is this 1933 or 1974?

133 Arashi  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:15:10am

#130 - I'll gladly be on the college front, even if I'm not officially a Republican (more conservative than Republican, here). You don't know how much misinformation I hear being passed about as truth around here.

134 rtheyserius  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:15:11am
"This is what happens when a political party ignores, for the most part, its base." -- Laura Ingraham

I'm actually not too upset by the dems' win. We've got a two party system and democracy is alive and well in America.

The dems are Americans. I congratulate them on their win.

I don't have any confidence in what they'll do, but what the heck, let'em have a whack at it.

...and pay attention.

135 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:15:34am

110 Dave The RINOS didn't give people any reason to vote for them. I'm thinking of DeWine and Chaffee in particular.

Santorum lost big as a conservative, but I think it was his extremely outspoken social conservatism that cost him. Americans are conservative people, but we also don't like being lectured to about private behavior.

136 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:16:03am

#123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Not only that, I disagree with his assertion of cause-and-effect. I think that it's quite plausibie that such a thing would have the opposite effect, as the donx would claim that it was due to the incompitance of the administration.

They are trying to create a self-fufilling prophesy of failure, and then blame it on the administration, just like they did in Vietnam. It worked for them then, and they pine for it again.

137 shortboard surfer  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:16:14am
#116 Occasional Reader

Ahhh...car bombs in the morning: Smells like victory.

Holy f**king shit.

What possesses someone to type something like this.

Islam.

138 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:16:34am

#132 PK

It's 1974. See my comments in #99.
Of course, 1974 wasn't all bad - The Flyers won the Stanley Cup & Momma Victory Monkey gave birth to me that year!

139 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:17:21am

132 peacekeeper Can we just pretend it's 1850? I always wanted a couple of mules. But I get to keep modern medicine, OK?

How are your horses doing? I bet they look all fuzzy with their winter coats.

140 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:18:06am

I posted this earlier when I was confident the Repubs held the Senate...


The Democrat House and James Baker's Iraq Study Group

While, from what best I can tell, based on the title of James Baker's Princeton thesis, he wrote about a dispute between two Labour MPs with similar names about whether labor unions should be allowed to strike during war time (as opposed to the internet rumor that his thesis argued the modern state of Israel was a mistake), as a guest on Bill Bennett's radio show said, every major Mid East foreign policy failure of the Reagan and Bush 1 administrations had Baker's finger prints on it, and Baker seems to view Israel as part of the problem.

Per 'Morning in America', both Donna Brazille and Paul Begala have been on TV in recent days, saying the Democrats eagerly await the results of Baker's 'Iraq Study Group', and there is suggestion that perhaps Baker himself, reputed to be one of the top leakers in Reagan's cabinet, may have leaked the information that is causing Democrat optimism.

Clearly, the expectation is that the ISG will call for a cut and run, although obviously not by that name.


I also believe the election of the leftist (without Sharon) Kadima government was probably perceived as a sign of weakness by Israel's enemies, and may have led to Hamas and Hezb'Allah's aggression/kidnappings. The election of the Dems to control the House is clearly a sign of a lack of resolve. Will Iran merely respond by increasing support for the chaos in Iraq, or will they go even farther? Who can guess how North Korea, China or Venezuela may react?

Speaking of Iran, after the new House is sworn in in January, any military solution to Iran's obvious program to develop nukes will become much harder. Expect frequent oversight hearings, designed to tie up the time of Rumsfeld and the Pentagon's top brass, and perhaps force them under oath to disclose elements of planning. Recall also Rangel's threat to force Bush out of Iraq by cutting back on funding for that. That can clearly be applied to Iran as well.

On the bright side, assuming the Dems overreach, the House may change back in two years, and the Senate probably stays Republican. While the Snowe/Hagel/Collins/Specter RINOs (and the ever unpredictable McCain) may block truly constitutionally conservative judges from being appointed, at least (it appears) the Dems won't control the Judiciary Committee.


Plus Lincoln Chaffee is out of the Senate.

141 joan  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:18:12am

This outcome reflects with great accuracy the landscape of our culture and society. We've got our work cut out for us, just to strengthen the things that remain. I fully expect that with help from their media allies, with access to the levers of power, the left will be shaping our future. Oh brave new world

142 Stringart  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:18:19am
to illustrate what they call “Sour Gripes,”

That's fair. After the last election, they ran stories about all the moonbats crying that they were moving to Canada; the moonbats who threatened armed insurrection and the countless moonbats who couldn't get out of bed, unless it was to go to a shrink.

Oh, wait...

143 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:21:00am
144 mattm  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:21:28am

I beleive the fighting between the far left, left, and middle-of-the-road dems will be the beggest problem they will face. They will have the cut and run NOW crowd and the impeachemt crowd, butting heads with the dems trying to advance the less radicial agenda. This will most likley prevent them from any major damage. The Lamont loss showed tham that far left ideas won't fly even in the North East.

145 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:21:47am

I hate to be all depressing, but if the Dems do get the Senate, it greatly increases the chances Iran builds the bomb (see reasons I gave in dead thread), which increases greatly odds US or Israeli city gets nuked.

146 SlothB77  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:23:01am

even the Time pays homage to Zombie.

147 timmy[deleted]  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:23:31am
148 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:25:48am

105 buckeye abroad Aargh. Why on earth would they? How could Jews honestly believe that electing the party of Pelosi, Hastings, Conyers, Rangel, Jessie "hymietown" Jackson, et al would be good for them?

Robert KKK Byrd? The Klan is only slightly less hostile to Jews than blacks, as I recall.

149 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:25:53am

Is Timmy a froll or a troll?

150 lurking faith  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:26:29am

#90 BabbaZee

Sing it backwards - maybe it'll destroy the evil succubus!

151 jwpaine  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:27:36am

The American Spectator nails what happened in "Renewing the Contract"

excerpt:

In assessing last night's results it is important to note that it was not a defeat for conservatism; it was a defeat for Republicanism, or at least, what Republicanism has come to represent. In the past 12 years, Republicans went from the party that promised "the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public's money" to the party of the Bridge to Nowhere; it took control of Congress on a pledge to "end its cycle of scandal and disgrace" and went down in defeat as the party of Tom DeLay and Mark Foley.

Having abandoned its core principles, the Republican Party had nothing to run on this year, so its campaign strategy centered on attacking Nancy Pelosi -- a questionable tactic given that, according to some polls, more than half of the country had never even heard of her.

152 rapnuc753  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:27:48am

I always go to history to learn important lessons.

George Washington, down to 3000 sick weary ill equipped poorly armed hungry troops.

Bad weather, losses, generals inside his own camp selling him out.

Less than 10 percent of the nation supports an armed revolution.

What ya gonna do? Cross the river? The evil cold nasty snow covered and its snowing Delaware River? Then what march with no shoes or foot coverings, leaving a trail of blood in the snow?

So guess what he did? Yeah!

Cross the river. Snuff Hessians. Start the ball rolling. re-equip fight battle on and eventually defeat the most poweful military in the world. Thats tenacity folks.

Folks we dont' yet know the meaning of the concept of 'hurting' and I hope we never do.

Go forward, with all speed and take no prisoners.

I was shocked at what happened last night being a naturally ebullient type, but then again I sort of didn't listen to my gut.

Cunningham, Ney DeLay, those powerhouses had dirty laundry. We paid for it.

If you're not a conservative you're not of use to me. Thats my new rule.

By the way, my heart was broken when Duke Cunningham went to prison, a genuine war hero who listened 'to the voices,' and was destroyed.

You never give up NEVER you never stop reloading until you're out of ammo then you use the weapon as a club.

Make them fear you but respect you as well.

1 year 364 days and counting (down)

rapnuc753

153 gentile_infidel  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:27:49am

Anyone got any ideas for a conservative '08 presidential candidate now that Santorum is gone and possibly Allen? Are we stuck with only Rudy and McCain?

154 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:28:05am

#147:

Thank you for proving Charles' point about DU.

Now:


CLEANUP IN AISLE 147


#143 Iron Fist:

It kinda smacks of Mike al Moor

More than kinda, I'd say.

155 gbl  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:28:22am

Before the Dems get too giddy they should analyze very carefully who was elected to office.

1) It was not the far left leaning Democrat, rather a very moderate Democrat.

Lieberman is an excellent case in point winning against a "Kos" supported candidate.

Same sex marriage amendments were nixed (this is not a liberal victory)

The topic Ms. Pelosi should ask is if she can rally support to be picked as speaker or will the Dems select someone more moderate. (Of course the MSM will spin this as "progressive political debate" rather than a "divided party".

If the "left" looks at this as a mandate for their views, again they should look at amendments passed (conservative views) and who was elected.

Well the Dems have taken the house. Congratulations! Now where's your plan?

156 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:29:32am

Gosh timmy, how proud your mother must be. And thanks for coming to visit today! It's great to see what quality of people inhabit the other side of the ideological divide.

157 Cartman  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:30:22am

I’m curious to see what Rush will have to say today about the election results. I’m positive one of his central themes will be that the Republicans alienated their conservative base, as many Lizards have noted here this morning. I’d like to know what his take is on conservative voters who stayed home or even voted Dem as a form of protest. I personally know of at least three acquaintances who did just that, and frankly it sickens me. I’m willing to guess that if within my small sphere of reality that I know folks who did that, many others across the fruited plain did the same yesterday. I guess when one is confused as to the consequences of one’s decisions, one tends to do stupid things. Cut off the nose, to spite the face.

158 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:31:02am

TIMMAH!

159 dll2000  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:31:09am

#147 timmy

Who's the racist homophobe nazi? I think your post speaks to your level of discourse. Keep going through life wishing for socialism and appeasement - you just may get it one day. Unfortunately for you, its always the native useful idiots who die first.

160 shortboard surfer  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:31:19am

#149 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Is Timmy a froll or a troll?



How about an ass-holl?

161 legalbgl  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:31:36am

[Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com...]

My take on the elections. Higher taxes, no change in Iraq, hard times for Ford and GM.

162 realwest  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:31:42am

#149 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades
Timmy is neither froll nor troll, just an asshole.

163 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:32:52am

#138 BDVM:

Of course, 1974 wasn't all bad

Are you kidding me?

The horror.

The horror.

164 GregInSeattle  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:34:07am

Bush still has his veto power, and will now have to use it a little!

165 3 wood  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:35:32am

#61

Stop it.

That is beyond the pale.

166 Geepers  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:36:29am

It worked for the Bonkeys.

We need to employ some Lefty street theater tactics.

We need to get people to follow Nancy and Harry around continually repeating:

"Da Plan. Da Plan."

in a Herve Villechaize voice.

167 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:36:51am

163 OR ROFLOL Yeah, I remember the 70's. Bad girls, talkin bout your sad girls

I do still love the Village People. I looked up their videos on you tube. They may have been the first group to get they flamboyant entertainer thing down pat. I found one clip where they were obviously singing live too. They could all sing.

Contrast with today's "stars" like Ashley Simpson...

168 lurking faith  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:37:49am

#152 rapnuc753

I'm proud to be in the same blog with you.

169 Right Side  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:38:12am

#54 quercus albus:

On that note, what are the issues that we would like to see Republican candidates take seriously.

Given the Foley mess and the Abramoff mess and what the exit polls said, Step One must be to make sure that Republican candidates are squeaky-clean ethically. And if there are any more congressional Republicans with bribery or sex scandals in their closets that haven't been uncovered yet, now is the time for them to resign, not two weeks before Election Day 2008.

That should have been a no-brainer, but for some reason it isn't.

The GOP leadership should invite back Dick Armey, Newt Gingrich, Larry Kudlow and the other architects of the succcessful 1994 Contract With America to draft a "Contract With America II" that Republicans can run on in 2008.

Dick Armey has said that the GOP focused too heavily on social-conservative issues and not heavily enough on cleaning up its ethical act and on implementing comprehensive reforms. He is right.

And in that context, can we please take the whole Intelligent Design/Creationism bullshit off the table already? Conservatives make themselves look really stupid when they fly in the face of the overwhelming majority of scientific opinion. Darwin's theory of evolution is as proven a scientific theory as can be. If you go for a Ph.D. in genetic engineering, or molecular biology, or any other aspects of modern medicine or biology, if you work for a biotech company doing advanced genetic engineering, that is the theory you will learn and that is the theory you will use. In peer-reviewed major scientific journals, at least 99.9% of the articles are evolutionist. Period. Game over.

170 Willfully Right  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:38:26am

Not a good day, but we've had bad days before. However, I fear for two things: funding for the troops and a crack down on the internet. Maybe I'm a tad paranoid but I'm sure the left sees the internet blogosphere as a threat and they may try and go after it via regulations, etc. Hmmm, any thoughts on that?

171 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:38:29am

#164 GregInSeattle

Bush still has his veto power, and will now have to use it a little!

But he won't... all in the name of reconciliation.

172 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:39:10am

Michelle Malkin posted her gag reel on HotAir today.

173 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:41:43am

#163 O.R.

I know, I know, like I said earlier the 1970s were a disaster for Western Civilization. The only 3 good things about that decade (during which I'm convinced God was working on "Earth - Plan B") were my birth, Star Wars & the Flyers' Stanley Cup victories.

174 Bill Dalasio  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:42:36am

29 mazeman, 37 shug,

Sorry, but I can't agree about Santorum. He lost because he's pretty weak candidate. Even when he has a good point on the issues he completely botches the explanation of the point. He plays well with conservatives because they generally get the point he's trying to make. Unfortunately, Joe Sixpack or Jane Soccermom can only follow the argument he actually does make. I'll give an example: gay marriage. The argument he seemed to be trying to make is a reasonable one - if the state lacks the authority to forbid gay marriage, by what standard does it have the authority to forbid incestuous, polygamous, or even bestial unions. Unfortunately, what he ends up delivering is a comparison of homosexuality and bestiality.

175 Dustoff-507  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:42:43am

Hey now, I liked the 70's (-:

176 splendid confusion  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:43:44am

What's a froll?

177 Buckeye Abroad  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:44:07am

#148 funky chicken

Why on earth would they?

Don't know. Why do blue-collar friends at the range vote for a party that wants to disarm them and raise their taxes to pay for it? [Last time I asked, was that the shop steward told them too.]

Robert KKK Byrd? The Klan is only slightly less hostile to Jews than blacks, as I recall.

Keep thinking of another democrat, Al Sharpton, and his incitement to murder a decade ago.

1995: When the United House of Prayer, a large black landlord in Harlem, raises the rent on Freddy's Fashion Mart, Freddy's white Jewish owner is forced to raise the rent on his subtenant, a black-owned music store. A landlord-tenant dispute ensues; Sharpton uses it to incite racial hatred. "We will not stand by," he warns malignantly, "and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Sharpton's National Action Network sets up picket lines; customers going into Freddy's are spat on and cursed as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms." Some protesters shout, "Burn down the Jew store!" and simulate striking a match. "We're going to see that this cracker suffers," says Sharpton's colleague Morris Powell. On Dec. 8, one of the protesters bursts into Freddy's, shoots four employees point-blank, then sets the store on fire. Seven employees die in the inferno.

Al Sharpton always reminds me of Charles Manson who had an interest in race [wars] as well.

178 doppelganglander  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:45:22am

Looking on the bright side, once again it's been proven that the system works -- we have a peaceful election, power changes hands, nobody dies. Hopefully, Republicans get the message and come back with real conservative values in '08. Meanwhile the Dems may discover that their freshmen really are more conservative than the leadership, and they may not be able to pass anything too insane. However, this will embolden the terrorists and I won't be the slightest bit surprised to see an attack on U.S. soil in the next 2 years.

179 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:46:51am

#150 lurking faith 11/8/2006 08:26AM PST
#90 BabbaZee


Sing it backwards - maybe it'll destroy the evil succubus!


ROTF
I CAST THEE OUT, PELOSI!

180 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:48:36am

#170 Willfully Right 11/8/2006 08:38AM PST

Not a good day, but we've had bad days before. However, I fear for two things: funding for the troops and a crack down on the internet. Maybe I'm a tad paranoid but I'm sure the left sees the internet blogosphere as a threat and they may try and go after it via regulations, etc. Hmmm, any thoughts on that?


Total agreement, one day the enforcers of the Whores of Gramsci will indeed try to shut us down. That I am certain of.

181 mbpaul  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:49:36am

I'm glad they didn't use my really, really, really stupid posts. I'm very sorry for last night.

182 THX-42  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:50:01am

Two words: Buy Ammo...

Because when the first nukes hit our blue cities, there will be another "blue wave" of Volvos heading for our small towns and farms and demanding to get whatever is in our fields and pantries. The fable of the grasshopper and the ant has just become reality.

183 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:51:35am

#182 THX-42
Amen Daddy

184 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:51:55am

147
Ah, gracious in victory.

185 Peacekeeper  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:52:56am

The world isn't going to end, it will only smell like it did.

186 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:52:59am

I CAST THEE OUT, #147~

187 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:55:10am

#178 doppelganglander

Hopefully, Republicans get the message and come back with real conservative values in '08.

That's unbelievably ironic, but probably true that in many, pobably most, of the seats that flipped, the donk ran to the right (or at least it looked that way through the smoke and mirrors) of the pub. But that being the case, it'll make them vulnerable, when in '08, they have to represent the party that cut and run and went on a radical left agenda, which I'm convinced the house leadership won't be able to resist.

188 THX-42  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:55:22am

One more morning after thought: 2 heartbeats away from Commander in Chief - Nancy Pelosi!

Yeah, that makes one run right out there and re-up for the military's next new front for freedom: handing out condoms and clean needles in Haiti...

189 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:56:54am

#147 [deleted] 11/8/2006 08:23AM PST

It worked!~

190 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:57:00am

{BabbaZee!}

{Peacekeeper!}

Greetings!

191 Gin Blossom  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:57:04am

178 doppelganglander 11/8/2006 08:45AM PST

Looking on the bright side, once again it's been proven that the system works -- we have a peaceful election, power changes hands, nobody dies. Hopefully, Republicans get the message and come back with real conservative values in '08. Meanwhile the Dems may discover that their freshmen really are more conservative than the leadership, and they may not be able to pass anything too insane. However, this will embolden the terrorists and I won't be the slightest bit surprised to see an attack on U.S. soil in the next 2 years.

I was thinking the very same thing, but hopefully, no more attacks on US soil.

We had a peaceful election and power will change hands which kind of negates the Bush-Halliburton rules the world conspiracy. It also proves that Bush is not installed inside a fortress in Washington and that he probably was not behind 9/11. That the Zionist Cabal that has Bush as its puppet, may in fact, be just another moronic conspiracy.

So I wonder, yesterday's election has poked some rather large holes into how many LLL conspiracies about the BushMcChimphitler Fascist Imperialist Empire?

192 poncho512  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:58:06am

Life is good even in the face of loss. We live in the greatest country in the world. I have little to complain about.

193 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:58:21am

{ChiBLUE!}

how's my girl? Kiss the Mutt for me.

194 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:58:43am

#192 poncho512
Amen. Twice.

195 rapnuc753  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 6:59:32am

#168 Thanks Lurking Faith for the compliment.

Oh, one more historical reference. Look up what some of the papers said about Abraham Lincoln and his presidency, ALL EAST COAST RAGS! Guess who was leading the way? Yep, the New York Slime.

This man who took us through a horrid civil war, his abuse was ten fold what they have said or implied to George Bush. Some people hate other people who love freedom.

rapnuc753

196 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:00:07am

Hey Babba...

Sad day eh? We move on.

No Bullshit Party in 2008?!?

I'm ready to run... My call is in to my local Republican Party leadership expressing my desire to run.

197 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:01:37am

#196 tfc3rid

Yep.

What's going to happen is going to happen, now it will just happen faster.

198 Prester John  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:01:42am

So you analytics out there, was this a matter of people actually changing their votes or people just staying home?

Inquiring minds want to know and don't have the time to check for themselves.

The worst part of this? How many GIs will be killed and maimed in Iraq because the jihadist feel emboldened to ratchet up the violence even more because they think a Dem Congress and force W's hand on a withdrawal?

199 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:02:46am

Amen Babba...

I hear ya...

I pray, real hard... We shall see... It saddens me that my local party did not want a candidate like me this year because I was 'too conservative'.

200 Gin Blossom  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:03:00am

195 rapnuc

History was kinder to Lincoln than his own MSM. Which makes me wonder, was Booth partially swayed by what was written in those rags?

201 jwpaine  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:03:50am

Even though it's generally conceded that the Repubs lost because they abandoned the Contract With America, I'm not sure they'll gain much by "returning" to that contract; who's going to trust them?

I think the Repubs in Congress did irreparable damage to their party during the past 12 years.

202 ChicagoBlue  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:04:42am

#193 BabbaZee ~

I'm hangin' in there ~ my family has had a real rough time, lately.

Wheee, I will gladly kiss the Mutt!

You, my friend, are a wonderful antidote to all that ails me!

203 Gin Blossom  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:04:48am

Morning Everyone!

Life goes on. I still love this great country of ours. Like Charles posted, our job just became a little bit harder.

I'm ready!

204 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:05:00am

#199 tfc3rid
Too conservative, huh?
Unbelievable.
Judgement cometh, as TFK says, clop,,,clop,,clop,,,clop...

205 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:06:16am

Thanks, ChiBlue~


#203 Gin Blossom
Me too, loins girded, sword polished, ready to ride.

206 Gin Blossom  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:07:20am

205 Babbazee

Now that's what I'm talking about!

:D

207 Willfully Right  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:07:56am

#192 poncho512

I appreciate your attitude, and heartily agree that we live the greatest country on the planet. It's the times we're living in right now that gives me pause. It doesn't take much to screw it up for all of us and the Dems are poised to do just that. I hope not but I don't have a lot of faith in them. Please, Dems, prove me wrong!

208 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:08:51am
209 Bourgeois Reactionary  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:09:17am

The Republicans held their own here in Alabama, where just 20 years ago the GOP started winning statewide office. Bob Riley won big running on "the Three E's: ethics, economy, education".

Right on Right Side. Where did the GOP Congress expect the bridge to nowhere to lead? Newt Gingrich won yesterday; I expect him to come out swinging.

#152 rapnuc753 - an edged weapon doesn't need reloading

210 Gin Blossom  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:12:56am

208 Babbazee

Aragorn: Hold your ground, hold your ground. Sons of Gondor, of Rohan, my brothers. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of woes and shattered shields, when the age of men comes crashing down, but it is not this day. This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you *stand, Men of the West!*

211 grumpy old codger  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:15:27am

Well, it's apparent now that there needs to be a change in direction, especially when one thinks of all the lead stories in today's blog.
First, we should apologize to everybody for everything. Then pull our troops out of all overseas bases. Then write a check as reparations for anything we may have done or will do. Then expel all international organizations from the continental US, seal the borders and nuke the hell out of ALL the trouble spots on the world. This last step should be done well before the check clears.

212 BabbaZee  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:16:45am

Behold, the Babbanap approacheth.

See yez later

213 Gin Blossom  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:18:09am

Babbazee

Nothing has changed for me, my purpose still remains true and clear. My resolve steady, and true. As does yours, Babbazee.

As does yours.

214 loppyd  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:20:02am

Drudge reporting White House to make "Significant Announcement" @ 1:00 PM EST.

Things that make you go hmmm.

215 scrapiron  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:20:55am

I'm a little bummed out but, I think that conservativism won last night. None of the (D)'s ran on being liberal and offered nothing, which was what we where getting with the RINO's, Bush included.

I voted for Bush twice but, I was very diappointed with him. I voted for the (R)'s last night in my state, Minnesota and we did ok, even if we lost the state senate.

The Senate will most likely go (D) but, at this point who cares. We need to get back to our conservative roots and principles. I hope to see Armey, Gengrich and other true conservatives come back in to help lead the party back to majority.

scrap

216 GregInSeattle  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:24:28am

The good news: We won't have to hear the "stolen elections" crapola anymore. At least until the next Republican win.

217 Greg  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:28:56am

#214 loppyd

Hope it is the beginning of the Iranian bombardment and dismemberment along with the NORKS...

...but considering how milquetoast and kumbaya GW has been and still is...

What a country...no leadership...like fighting WW2 and instead of a Churchill or a Eisenhower we have Grover Cleveland or Warren G. Harding...

218 Lousy-ana-Texan  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:29:38am

poncho512

Life is good even in the face of loss. We live in the greatest country in the world. I have little to complain about.


Well said.

219 splendid confusion  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:33:50am

#182 TXH-42

Have you been watching "Jericho" on Wednesday nights? That's basically the plot line--big cities nuked, small Kansas town surviving on local farmer's corn crop and a train full of supplies crashed on tracks outside of town.

220 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:33:56am

I still can't buy into the blowout Casey and Rendell both had in PA. 2/1 ratios? Sheesh...

Yes, the Dems are talking nicey-nice right now but what happens when they take control in a few months is another story we'll have to wait and see on...

221 Tairos  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:35:01am

Oh my god, I was in the NYT! My day is made!

222 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:35:51am

Correction; 3/2 ratios... yargle...

223 BarCodeKing  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:39:46am

Crossposted from Recycled Sip

There's an old saying that "it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

A majority of the minority of the American electorate that actually votes has spoken and removed all doubt.

The Democrats have promised a "NewD irection for America." Congratulations, voters. You're screwed. I'm screwed. We're all screwed. All of us.

I'm going to get a bumper sticker next year that will say "Don't blame me; I voted Republican." For those of you who didn't vote or who voted for Democrats, you deserve what is going to happen to you in the next couple of years.

Here are a few things you can expect:

1. Your taxes will go up. The Democrats will claim, "Oh, we're only going to raise the taxes on the rich who aren't paying their fair share." A number of people who thought that they were middle-class are going to be shocked to learn that the Democrats have decided that they are "rich" and thus deserve to pay more in taxes. Well, open up your wallets, you kulaks! "For the Greater Good!" (which will be Hillary!'s campaign slogan in 2008, since "Peace! Land! Bread!" has already been used.)

...

Read the whole thing at Recycled Sip

224 realwest  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:42:06am

#182 THX-42 - Nice post. Buy more Ammo, AMERICANS from "Blue States" may be coming our way and need our help.
I'm not sure about all Blue States, but I know that NYS has sent hundreds of billions of dollars to the US Treasury over the years more than it ever received back in the way of federal funding or programs. Those "extra" billions of dollars helped pay for a lot of Red State programs and highways and education and etc. Completely aside from the fact that most blue states have at least 40+% "red" voters, they are all Americans.
I always thought we were, too.

225 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:42:14am
226 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:46:09am

216 GregInSeattle

The good news: We won't have to hear the "stolen elections" crapola anymore. At least until the next Republican win.

Wanna bet? If they don't get the senate because of either of the close elections in Montana or Virginia, that's exactly what they'll screaming. And even if those go their way, they'll still say that they were robbed in Conneticut, or wherever.

227 mbpaul  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:46:36am

How do you delete posts. I want to delete all the really stupid things I said last night. Leave up my apoplgies but take down all the rest.

228 mbpaul  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:48:44am

I went bonkers last night and I want to take down my stupidity.

229 doppelganglander  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:53:24am

Those comments were the worst the NYT blog could come up with? Let's take a little trip down memory lane, circa 2004, and see what was said at DU or Kos.

230 loppyd  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:53:48am

RUMSFELD STEPPING DOWN...ON FOX NOW

231 RoughRider  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:55:50am
RUMSFELD STEPPING DOWN...ON FOX NOW

If only he'd have done that a month ago...

232 adam henry  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:56:18am

hooray! rumsfeld was a moron.

233 linlithgow  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:59:01am

Unfortunately the President is salivating, thinking he can get amnesty passed; the media are also jumping on that bandwagon saying that hardline anti-illegal immigration candidates lost because of it; completely ignoring the fact that supposedly the GOP lost seats because of scandal and the war, and the six year curse. Somehow, conveniently, it doesn't apply to hardline anti-immigration candidates, even though Senators who were wimpy on illegal immigration, like DeWine and Chafee, got the boot big time.

Got an email from NumbersUSA saying that all is not lost, things just got harder, and the Dems would welcome a chance to embarass the president on something, and perhaps not securing the borders will be it.

According to Rush, Rumsfeld is gone, and that's the big announcement. Hope that's not right; even if you think it's the right thing to do it shows fear, which brings me to Ronaldus Magnus Reaganus.

Unfortunately, President Bush, as much as I like him sometimes, has never been a Ronald Reagan. Reagan could be firm without being hateful, where as sometimes I think the President feels if he's too hardcore he will seem mean and too partisan. Reagan was never concerned with that, only with doing what was right.

234 linlithgow  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 8:00:52am

If Rummy had stepped down last week, we might have at least gotten some VOTES out of it and narrowed the Dem margin in the House! Boy am I pissed!

235 Greg  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 8:05:56am

Hooray...Rummy is gone...make a recess apointment and put in a stone cold killer as War Secretary (as it should be called)...somewhat to prosecute the war to it finish, declare victory and get the fook out!

More kumbaya coming from Bush I am afraid, though...you can see it in his eyes...no steel and blood there...

236 deadbackpacker  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 8:19:12am

Hey did anyone else see that green glow in the southwest last night? It was the big green light for all the illegas to come on over, because amnesty is on the way shortly!

237 linlithgow  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 8:22:49am

He is very defensive...

I can't believe someone asked him if Cheney would stay! He's an elected official.

I can't believe that President Bush said that he might negotiate a minimum wage increase! Good Lord...

Deadbackpacker - you're right on; I can hear the sound of suitcases shutting and water bottles are being grabbed off the shelf.

238 deadbackpacker  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 8:23:31am

Went to the caucus site and posted my reply to their BS about us lizards

First of all voting is neither a privledge nor a right, it is a responsibility. That means studying the issues and candidates, not listening to the lies spread by both parties through TV commercials. The whole basis of a republic like ours lies with EDUCATED voters, not midless zombies parroting what they heard on television. In my opinion that is what the posters at LGF were trying to say. If you disagree with the fact that voters need to be educated, then I guess the repulic is lost anyway.

— Posted by deadbackpacker

This is how I feel about voting, and I believe most posters here feel the same!

239 deadbackpacker  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 8:30:23am

#237 linlithgow

As I read the Detroit Free Press, the liberal Detroit paper, the first article on the op-ed page was about how we can now compromise on immigration. In their mind compromise means give the illegals, amnesty, guest worker programs, and easy paths to citizenship. They also said that immigration doesn't lower American workers wages, hell they have started th BS already.

240 Clutch  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 9:09:19am

Greetings from the reddest state in the union! (GA)

Am I disappointed in the turnout of the election and Rumsfeld's resignation? Hell yes!

Am I depressed, gonna sit in a s#itty diaper and sulk and whine and go all defeatist? F*CK NO! While not happy about the results, I am not going to let the fact that the Bonkeys have regained a (hopefully) temporary two-year majority get me all depressed. What this means to me is that NOW is the time to do some real house (and senate) cleaning. Roll up the sleeves, spit on your hands and get down to the hard job of reclaiming the Republican Party from the milksops that got us to this place. We have two years to get tougher, get smarter and get going! We need to learn how to get bare-knuckle nasty, since that's the way the Bonkeys fight; let's put a rock in our fist the next time they want to start something (i.e. the Studds case should have been shouted from the rooftops everytime they tried to bring up Foley). Yeah, it'll be hard with the MSM actively working against us, but let's use the tools that we have; cancel your subscriptions to the MSM propaganda outlets, make 'em hurt. Let's use the Bonkey tactics of contesting elections and not cave in some damn fast, make 'em fight HARD for the seats they steal! Don't let the support for the troops in harm's way falter; keep the pressure on the elected Bonkey officials to support our men and women who protect our freedoms. We must WIN in Iraq before we can bring our troops home; not withdrawn like the cowards want but in VICTORY! And let those of US right here rededicate ourselves to support the troops more now than ever; with prayer, with our wallets, with our time. We may have lost this skirmish and we gave up ground, but this is not defeat! This is not the end of the battle! You mewling nancy-boys claiming it is, buck up, grow a pair and a spine AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! This is a time of war and wars are a series of disasters followed by victory. We will win in the end, we will prevail! Do not give up hope and never ever, ever surrender to despair. WE. WILL. PREVAIL!

241 Radiator251  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 9:13:36am

The people who want Bush impeached are the same people who blame Cheney for controlling the government. Do they really want him as president if Bush gets ousted, or are they just complete morons?

242 scrapiron  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 9:15:28am

Well, my suspicions are confirmed. I always thought Bush was a RINO and now I know it.

His press conference was nothing but a concession to the Democrats. I expect to see more spending and kowtowing in the next 2 years.

Is there a real conservative party out there? I would like to join.

scrap

243 scrapiron  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 9:17:33am

Clutch,

Thanks for the post. I need help. I'm disparing right now.

scrap

244 idigscotch&scotchburiesme  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 10:15:35am

Any AZ lizards got a read on why J.D. Heyworth (sp?) lost?

245 Roger  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 10:25:00am

#228 mbpaul

Charles looked out for you! He deleted as you requested.

There will be a lot of fun over the next years. There are factions in the Democratic party which will have a go at each other. The islamists will get over anxious and eventually over ask for concessions and jizzyah tax from the Dems. Many more things we're not thinking of this instant.

246 Clutch  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 10:28:04am

Chin up, scrapiron, ol' chum, don't let the bas+ards grind you down!

And now, a little musical inspirational message from an unlikely source, The Clash, from 1977's excellent London Calling, "I'm Not Down":

"If it's true that a rich man leads a sad life
N' that's what they from day to day
Then what do all the poor do with their lives?
Have nothing to say on judgment day?

I've been beat up, I've been thrown
Out but I'm not down, I'm not down
I've been shown up, but I've grown up
And I'm not down, I'm not down

On my own I faced a gang of jeering in strange streets
When my nerves were pumping and I
Fought my fear in, I did not run
I was not done

And I have lived that kind of day
When one of your sorrows will go away
It goes down and down and hit the floor
Down and down and down some more
Depression
But I now there'll be some way
When I can swing everything back my way
Like skyscrapers rising up
Floor by floor, I'm not giving up

So you rock around and think that
You're the toughest
In the world, the whole wide world
But you're streets away from where
It gets the roughest
You ain't been there...

247 neocon hippie  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 10:28:38am

While we are headed toward uncertain times, I think it may be better that the defeat was gotten out of the way now. Two more years of the same kind of stagnation and carping may well have led to an even bigger blowout in '08 including the presidency. We dodged a major bullet in '04 and that was far more important.

248 yah  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 10:38:42am

I am gratefull...that the NYT didn't publish some of the posts full of vulgarties for the whole world to see.

249 EtNorskTroll  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 11:04:54am

#102 Arashi
#116 Occasional Reader
#143 Iron Fist
#165 3 wood

No one should be advocating an attack on America just because the Dems are in charge. *wince* It may be more likely if the Dems are majorly changing things in regards to national security and the like, but I still hope we don't have an attack.

Nor do I.

EVER.

So that there is no confusion about what I wrote: I did not wish/advocate or hope that America is attacked.

If anyone took it that way, I apologize. Yep. It was poorly worded and I should have read it over a few more times before posting it.

(in your face, John Kerry~!)

However, I do mean to point out an obvious truth: our enemies are watching us as a society and how we vote.

Now that we *cough* have elected a weak party that has historically refused to defend itself, its allies and its country, you can expect the attacks to increase EXPONENTIALLY.
Did anyone notice what the first words out of Hamas' filthy mouths were the very next day after the Dem's won? "We will now start attacking Israel again".

Wow. Wonder where they got that hubris?

I do not wish increased attacks on our troops in Iraq, but the REALITY is that they are going to.

Those are just facts. I lived in the Middle East for a while. I have a little glimpse into how people from the ME think.

Believe me when I say it: this is a victory in their minds.

Complete and total.

Now we, as a people, are going to pay the price. Not wishing it, mind you.

Just pointing it out.

250 EtNorskTroll  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 11:05:37am

Just to make sure that EVEYRONE saw this:

#102 Arashi
#116 Occasional Reader
#143 Iron Fist
#165 3 wood

No one should be advocating an attack on America just because the Dems are in charge. *wince* It may be more likely if the Dems are majorly changing things in regards to national security and the like, but I still hope we don't have an attack.

Nor do I.

EVER.

So that there is no confusion about what I wrote: I did not wish/advocate or hope that America is attacked.

If anyone took it that way, I apologize. Yep. It was poorly worded and I should have read it over a few more times before posting it.

(in your face, John Kerry~!)

However, I do mean to point out an obvious truth: our enemies are watching us as a society and how we vote.

Now that we *cough* have elected a weak party that has historically refused to defend itself, its allies and its country, you can expect the attacks to increase EXPONENTIALLY.
Did anyone notice what the first words out of Hamas' filthy mouths were the very next day after the Dem's won? "We will now start attacking Israel again".

Wow. Wonder where they got that hubris?

I do not wish increased attacks on our troops in Iraq, but the REALITY is that they are going to.

Those are just facts. I lived in the Middle East for a while. I have a little glimpse into how people from the ME think.

Believe me when I say it: this is a victory in their minds.

Complete and total.

Now we, as a people, are going to pay the price. Not wishing it, mind you.

Just pointing it out.

251 sngnsgt  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 11:52:27am

Those damn machines, it was those damn Diebold machines!

/sarc

252 snowtravel  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 1:31:50pm

#225 buzzsawmonkey 11/8/2006 09:42AM PST

Not that the exultant leftoids will notice--or, if they notice, they won't admit it--but the fact that their abysmal army of the night has managed to wrest the government away from the Republicans shows that their endless bitching and whining and paranoid ranting for the last six years about "King George," incipient fascism from the Republicans, suspension of elections, election fraud, etc., are all the utter crock we knew they were.

One might hope yesterday's election would occasion an opportunity to reevaluate the extreme positions and animus that too often characterizes comments here. Why alienate so much of the electorate?

"Saving the world" indeed.

253 Solomon2  Wed, Nov 8, 2006 3:04:50pm
Some people are praising the Democrats today for their "restraint". That's incorrect. The Democrats simply weren't prepared for the size of their victory...

Moping & Hoping

254 sngnsgt  Fri, Nov 10, 2006 3:12:44pm

It's going to get worse before it gets better.


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