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Sat, Dec 9, 2006 at 7:52:46 am PST

It’s an absolute disgrace that the Washington Post is publishing hateful garbage like this, by Palestinian “journalist” Daoud Kuttab: Israel is a Liability for US.

Disgusting. The Washington Post should be ashamed. But I know they are not.

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1 ctrlL  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 5:54:13am

Sickening, Charles.

2 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 5:54:23am

WOE UNTA DEM!

3 ctrlL  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 5:54:53am

Okay, I hadn't read it yet.
/true confessions

4 j-damn  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 5:58:26am

The Jews were a liability for Europe in the 30s too, and look how well it turned out for those collaborators!

5 Terp Mole  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 5:59:16am

Racist Leftist idiotarians of the terror-connected ISM do a Senator "Grand Kleagle" Byrd today;

Black Agenda Report: “The n*****ization of Palestine”

...American dissent against the Israeli occupation has tended to avoid the obvious “n*****ization” process in Palestine.
---
Any “demographic problem” is completely racial: it presupposes the existence of two distinct types of human being, one deserving full civil rights and social privileges and the other an aggravating nuisance that must be got rid of, because this type is merely pretending to be human no matter how much education, property, or eloquence the person possesses. This is the hallmark of the “n*****ization” process.

There is a startling abundance of empirical evidence documenting Israel’s “n*****ization” of the Palestinians, from the various studies conducted by international human rights organizations to local Palestinian and Israeli monitoring groups, who document meticulously everything from daily torture in Israeli prisons, water theft and house demolitions, to racial profiling, harassment and physical assault at military checkpoints, collective punishment and the systematic use of “administrative detention” (imprisoning a person without charge or evidence) as a means of incarcerating a whole generation of rebellious Palestinian youth, in other words, those who have rejected the “n*****ization” process.

This will come as a surprise to Ethiopian Israeli Jews.

6 m  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:01:10am

#3 ctrlL
Not sure that I can. It's kinda early for hate and ignorance.

Okay, you know I had to.

Same guy also says

The Israelis made progress when Prime Minister Olmert agreed to a cease fire (despite refusing earlier) and then giving the cease fire a chance. His public offer of a Palestinian state, even though vague and unclear, also improves Israel's position. The Islamists in Palestine seem to be moving closer to a more tempered position, which is good for moderates Islamists and bad for radical Islamists.

He's delusional.

7 ec marm  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:01:31am
Hopefully, the way will open for a more sane U.S. foreign policy that takes into account what the rest of the world thinks.


Hopefully, the way will open for a more sane U.S. foreign policy that takes into account ignores what the rest of the world genocidal islamic fascists thinks want.
Fixed!

/Barack Hussein Obama, suppositional next President of the United States of America

8 haakondahl  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:02:30am

Israel a liability for the US. Horse Manure. That is like saying that children are a liability for a school, or that customers are liability for a business. A nation such as ours which prides itself on being moral and just, could find no higher purpose in this time or any other than committing itself to the defense of Israel.

This does not constitute a liability, except to those who feel no sense of right and wrong, of duty or propriety, or even of self-interest beyond the first, most primitive interpretation.

WaPo = Wobbly Post.

9 ibrodsky  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:02:55am

If only the US would let the Muslim scum destroy Israel, massacre its Jewish citizens, and establish an IslamoNazi dictatorship in its place, the world would live in peace and tranquility.

Yes, I can see that.

10 new_tommy  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:02:59am

Wow! Such informative and unique analysis from the Washington Post! It was the same old junk we hear from Palestinian activists on the internet every damn day. Clearly articles like this one are a good reason to get a subscription to the paper! Where else could we find stuff like this?

11 keelie  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:03:10am

#5

... and the recently imported Menassah Jews (from India) and the other Indian Jews...

I think the US would do Israel a favour by backing away from it. Israel, unleashed, would take care of a problem which should have been taken care of many years ago. No interference.

12 anthean  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:03:11am

Well, if the US goal is to suck up to the Arab world, then it is true, Israel is a liability.

But I see the US role in the world as something other than coddling Arab dictators and terrorist leaders.

Screw Daoud Kuttab, the WP, Jimmah, and Baker/Hamilton.

13 ChenZhen  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:03:24am

I didn't read anything that I would describe as 'hateful' in there.

14 ainteasybeinggreen  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:05:22am

Well Charles, "what the hell is wrong with WAPO" is simple: we are witnessing the beginning of the end. Revelations is the hardest Book of the Bible to understand but when read, I recognize that the rapture is soon to come. And since I am secure in my pre-trib beleifs I am going to TRY to stop figuring this world out. Praying Imams, gym jihad, wars and rumors of wars, Dhimmi Carter, Hillary. You name it, it all points to the end. But God will protect Isreal. No doubt about it. They are His Chosen. Yes i am depressed. How did you guess. But my hope is Jesus Christ.

15 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:06:00am

Please don't feed the troll.

16 ronaldusmagnus  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:06:03am

Well - it is labeled as an opinion piece...and it proves any idiot with a crayon can write an opinion and get it published in WaPo. (May well also prove that any idiot will publish it.)

From the article:

Hopefully, the way will open for a more sane U.S. foreign policy that takes into account what the rest of the world thinks.

So - we are to base our foreign policy on what France, Iran, Syria, North Korea, et al, think is in the best interest of the U.S.?

Good grief.

17 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:06:21am

Let me pose a question regarding the "liability"
status of any nation we deal with.
Other than Petroleum, what do the Islamic nations of the world bring to the table - pray
tell.

-S-

18 Chicken Kiev  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:07:06am

What's next? "The Jews are a liability not an asset to Europe. Heil Hitler."

19 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:08:10am

Perhaps the Washington Post felt it was ok to do so in light of the baker report...

20 Chicken Kiev  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:08:39am

It's in a section of the WaPo called "PostGlobal."

That name alone gives me the willies.

"Post" has several different meanings...

21 uncle_monkey  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:09:05am
the frank talk of Jimmy Carter

(!?!?)

Is that why his aide finally threw up his hands in disgust and left?

22 mbruce  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:09:43am

This is what "nuanced" will get you.
Cowardly insanity and surrender, no more,no less.

23 Mike in Georgia  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:10:04am

OT Now this is interesting.
[Link: www.news.com.au...]

24 m  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:10:11am

#15 christheprofessor

Can we shoot spitwads at it? :

25 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:10:14am
26 Chicken Kiev  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:10:22am

Daoud Kuttab's web site:

[Link: www.daoudkuttab.com...]

27 ibrodsky  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:10:49am
So far we are a far cry from what is needed to put a real end to the misery caused by the injustice of the nearly 40-year-old occupation of Palestine.

I want to make sure I understand this... Arab/Muslim countries attacked Israel repeatedly with the goal of destroying it and driving its Jewish citizens into the sea (i.e., mass murdering them), and the Arab/Muslim countries lost. Tiny Israel captured some land from the aggressors (land they stole earlier) and holds that land as a military buffer.

Plus, the Palestinians have rejected multiple offers for a state they don't deserve.

Yet, this Palestinian low life claims the problem is Israel's "illegal occupation" of land captured from aggressors--land Israel has repeatedly tried to give back for peace.

These Muslims have certainly learned the lesson taught to them by their pedophile prophet. "War is deceit."

28 Ma Sands  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:10:56am

Not to worry, Charles...the article itself is so full of words of smokescreen on the falsity of the purported "hope" the enemy writer is "holding out"...very extremely thin smokescreen, at that... :)

29 mama winger  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:11:10am

From the link - notice the first couple of words:

Israel is a Liability for U.S.

Ramallah, Palestine - While the departure of Rumsfield and Bolton from the political scene, the bipartisan Baker and Hamilton report, and the frank talk of Jimmy Carter are all signs that Americans are finally beginning to realize that Israel is a liability and not an asset to their global interests,


I'm sorry - but where exactly is the country of Palestine?

30 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:11:35am

#24 m

Sure. In fact, I petard in its general direction...

31 new_tommy  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:12:26am

OT.

A comment from Hugh Fitzgerald:

James Baker has a clear sense of what is and what is not relevant. Asked by Senator Lieberman whether Iran might demand, as a price of agreeing to talks with the United States, a promise by the Americans to end its effort to prevent Iran from continuing pell-mell in its nuclear program, Baker replied with a fixer's suave assurance: "That's a very good question, Senator. We would simply make it clear that there is no connection between talking to Iran about Iraq and Iran's nuclear project." (Words not recalled verbatim, but to that effect).

Why, then, is there "no connection" between Iran's nuclear project, and any talks between Iran and the United States about Iraq? Because James Baker says so.

And why is there a necessary connection between the situation in Iraq, and what has come to be known to Bakerites of this world as the "Israeli-'Palestinian'" question, or still worse, becuase of the sinister reification involved, the "Israel/"Palestine" question, and Iraq? Because James Baker says so.

The Royal Fiat, or Firman, of the Texas Fixer. In one case, no connection at all because James Baker asserts no connecton. In the second case, a very important connection, because just like the Hitlerites who saw "the Jewish Question" as connected to everything under the sun, there are those in Washington -- and some of them are named James Baker (head of the Commission, who in his long career, in and out of government, with all his dealings with the Saudis and other Gulf Arabs, never sounded any alarms about Saudi attitudes, Saudi textbooks, Saudi use of oil revenues to fund mosques and madrasas world-wide, and lifted not a finger, in all of his years in and close to power, to push for the slightest effort to lower OPEC oil revenues, that might easily have been achieved beginning at the very beginning of OPEC's existence, or indeed at any time since), and Edward Djerijian (former State Department flunkey and "diplomat" who, in all his years of working in and about the Muslim Middle East, never understood, never felt the need to understand, the nature of Islam), now the head of the modestly-titled James Baker Center for Somethingorother (World Peace? Peace and An End To Poverty? World Peace, An End to Poverty, and Pie in the Sky in the Sweet Bye and Bye? I forget.), and special expert -- called in by Baker himself -- one Raymond Close, the former C.I.A. agent who has been up to his neck in Saudi dealings, at the latest, by 1977, when he resigned as Station Chief in Riyadh to go into business with two Saudis, at least one of them with Saudi intelligence connections, and, even though he was then found involved in the B.C.C.I. scandal, was apparently just fine as an "expert" as far as James Baker was concerned. (Not a single investigative journalist has seen fit to find out why Raymond Close was one of Baker's chosen "experts" for the Iraq Study Group, and it is doubtful that others on the panel knew much of anything.

James Baker doesn't have to explain anything. Iran's nuclear project is irrelevant to policy in Iraq. The Israeli refusal, or quasi-refusal, given Olmert, to speed up the pace of its chosen course of slow suicide through negotiation and surrender to devotees of Al-Hudaibiyya (say, did any Senator ask Baker about the Treaty of Al-Hudiabiyya? They didn't? Why didn't they, do you think? And do you think, if they had, he would have any idea what they were talking about? And do you think, since Baker spent years negotiating with assorted Arabs, traipsing back and forth, for example, to Damascus -- where he let slip information to Hafez al-Assad, in a fit of demonstrating just how much he knew, that led to the seizure and execution of two Israeli spies by the Syrians -- one more triumph of James Baker...

32 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:13:30am

Other than founding that Internet thing, I don't know what his credentials are as a journalist. He obviously never took a Journalism Writing 101 course: he refers to Donald Rumsfeld, John Bolton, James Baker and Lee Hamilton by their surnames in the first reference. But, he refers to Jimmy Carter with both his given name and surname.

Now that I think about it, perhaps he did take such a course and his disrespectful references to the all but Jimmah were intentional.

33 solomonpanting  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:13:55am
So far we are a far cry from what is needed to put a real end to the misery caused by the injustice of the nearly 40-year-old occupation of Palestine.

Amen. What is needed is the total relocation of the faux Palis to Egypt and Jordan.

34 Chicken Kiev  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:14:08am

Daoud Kuttab is a propagandist who "writes" for many LLL outfits. He kindly sent this "email" to popular site Boing Boing about the terrrible IDF in August:


For about three hours on Tuesday, I was really concerned. My sister Grace and her four children were traveling from Jordan to see relatives in the West Bank using the northern Jordan-Israel crossing point. The source of my concern was a news item I saw on TV saying that a Hezbollah rocket had fallen on Bisan in northern Israel.

Bisan, literally on the other side of the border crossing that the family was about to reach, is now called Beit Shean and is 100 percent inhabited by Israelis. I was debating whether to ask them to turn back or or let them take their chances...

Grace and her family, United States citizens who live in Brooklyn, N.Y., were excited about visiting our relatives in the Palestinian town of Beit Jala...

For two hours, my sister and her children stood in the hot sun at Israeli passport control. She later told me that she could see smoke billowing not far from the border. Without an explanation, an Israeli police officer came up to my sister with her and her children's passport and told her that she was denied entry into Israel...

When she opened her United States passport, my sister, who was born and raised in Jerusalem, saw that she was no longer allowed to return to her birthplace...

It seems that there are constant attempts to shroud the Arab-Israeli conflict in military terms, political jargon or historical arguments. We must strive, despite this, to remember the human element in this conflict.

35 new_tommy  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:14:08am

Muslims are a liability to all of humanity, yet no one is seriously proposing getting rid of them.

36 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:14:32am
37 hiker  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:15:01am

The WaPo is well known for its anti-semitism and its contempt for Israel. Nothing new here.

38 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:15:39am

I hope I made sense. I've had very little sleep despite the Lortab for my abscessed tooth, my jaw is swollen, I feel warmed-over dog shit and the caffeine has not kicked in yet.

That said, I still cannot determine if the article is a newstory or is an editorial. Can anyone determine which?

39 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:17:23am

From the comment section:

WP is a liability for U.S.

Posted by: Yossi, Tel Aviv | December 9, 2006 11:01 AM

Couldn't have said it better myself...

40 ibrodsky  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:17:38am

35 new_tommy 12/9/2006 08:14AM PST

Muslims are a liability to all of humanity, yet no one is seriously proposing getting rid of them.

Not necessary. We just have to get rid of the evil ideology known as Islam.

41 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:17:51am

#32 MandyManners

Now that I think about it, perhaps he did take such a course and his disrespectful references to the all but Jimmah were intentional.

Should read: to all but...

PIMF.

/More caffeine, please--lace it w/ heroine.

42 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:18:52am

#38 Mandy Manners

I feel warmed-over dog shit

So, how does it feel? ;)

Seriously, I hope you feel better...

43 sngnsgt  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:19:04am

WaPo is trying to compete with the NYT for reading material in the bottom of my bird cage.

44 Carl in Jerusalem  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:19:23am

You might find it hard to believe, but the Jerusalem Post publishes Kuttab regularly.

45 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:19:55am

#29 mama winger,

I'm sorry - but where exactly is the country of Palestine?

Only on Hadrian's fake maps.

46 Ma Sands  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:25:20am

#14 ainteasybeinggreen

Take heart... :) “Then those who dwell in the cities of Israel will go out and set on fire and burn the weapons...and they will make fires with them for seven years." --Ezekiel 39:9 (Read the whole chapter.)

47 ec marm  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:25:40am

ChenZhen, love ya, really, but I gotta do this to you...

/Barack Hussein Obama, suppositional next President of the United States of America

48 new_tommy  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:26:22am

In another article he explains why we shouldn't criticize Palestinian death-cultist parents for brainwashing their children:

Some have even used racist undertones by attacking Palestinian mothers as being sub-human because, unlike normal mothers, they send their children to be killed. Such statements continued even after the damning pictures of a father trying to protect his 12-year-old son from being killed by Israeli gunfire.

I feel so much better now. That explains the whole shaheed thing right away...

49 Cognito  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:26:35am

38 Mandy,

I still cannot determine if the article is a newstory or is an editorial. Can anyone determine which?


It's neither, really. It's just a little blip the Post threw on their website that never made it near the actual paper. It's much closer to an online "letter to the editor" than anything else.

It contains no analysis, no reporting, no thought. It's of no real consequence.

50 Blackacre  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:26:51am
Daoud Kuttab is a Palestinian journalist propagandist.

Fixed that.

51 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:27:01am

#47 ec marm

Heh™.

52 ibrodsky  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:27:49am

One of the best posts in the WP comments section:

Brass tacks: The Arab-Israeli conflict is all about envy, the most craven of human emotions. The Jews built an oasis in the desert right under the Arabs noses. The Arabs will never forgive the Jews for this. That's right, lets blame the Jews for being industrious, forward thinking, and democratic. Lets pity the poor Arabs for being lazy, spiteful, and envious. Even a well evolved parasite knows better than to kill its host. The Palestinians have yet to grasp this. They will never win.

Posted by: Bob, Chicago | December 9, 2006 11:11 AM

53 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:28:24am

#48 new_tommy

Weren't they then killed by Pali gunfire?

54 mama winger  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:28:58am

#45 BabbaZee

Good morning Babba. Great link - thanks! I am saving that one.

55 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:29:13am

#15 christheprofessor

We have a troll?

Why don't I ever get the Troll-Identification Memo?

56 USA  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:29:33am

Who needs Jews, anyway?

Nobel Laureates

57 cracker-crusader  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:30:05am

Does anyone else notice how the International Jihad Movement actually satisfies most of the criteria the Nazis ascribed to the Jews circa 1933?

A vast international conspiracy to control the world via the subjugation of key nation-states, a blood-thirsty (recall the PLO blood-licking incidents) and racist ideology aiming to subjugate the world's peoples through mass immigration and assilmilation, and an international finance movement aimed at controlling world markets by manipulating the oil supply.

HHHmmm...

58 lioness  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:30:07am

For any spiritually minded Lizards...

Joel 3:1-2

3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,

2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
KJV

59 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:30:17am

#54 mama winger
Zola died recently, may his name live forever!

60 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:30:18am

#55 Mandy Manners

See #47 ec marm's description and picture... Also note the photo on the wall...

61 new_tommy  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:31:15am

#48

pictures of a father trying to protect his 12-year-old son from being killed by Israeli gunfire.

Of course, I think he is referring to Lil' Mo.

62 m  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:31:20am

#49 Cognito

It contains no analysis, no reporting, no thought. It's of no real consequence.

Except for the confirmation it gives to other anti-semitic assholes in the world.

63 Cognito  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:33:05am

59 Babba,

Zola Levitt died? Well good gosh. I had no idea.

What a downer.

64 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:34:06am

#49 Cognito 12/9/2006 08:26AM PST


It contains no analysis, no reporting, no thought. It's of no real consequence.


It is Jew hate, made acceptable by virtue of it being posted there.
It is of MONUMENTAL consequence.

/You may not be interested in religious war nut you can bet your isolationist ass religious war is interested in you.

65 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:34:13am

#42 christheprofessor

HA! I just now caught that and wondered if anyone else had beat me to it. Glad to see that someone's operating on all four cylinders this morning 'cause I surely ain't.

Who needs an abscessed molar and subsequent root canal at Christmas?! Bah, I say. Bahfreakinghumbug.

Signed,

WAWW*.

*Whiney-Ass White Woman.

66 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:34:16am

nut?

BUT

67 right wing zephyr  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:35:01am

In these confusing times, there is one clarifying issue that decides your morality and likely your Judgement.


Do you support Israel? or not?

68 ChenZhen  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:36:04am

#47 ec marm 12/9/2006 08:25AM PST

Interesting toy you've got there.

69 Cognito  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:36:41am

64 Babba,

Um... I'm profoundly interested in religious war. But no, I don't think that little booger of a post at the Post's backwaters is going to have any real consequence in the world.

That's not to say the ideas the writer espouses are inconsequential; that's a whole different deal.

70 m  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:37:06am

#38 Mandy

I still cannot determine if the article is a newstory or is an editorial. Can anyone determine which?

By process of elimination- did you see any news in the story?

#64 BabbaZee~ thank you Babba! Perfectly put.

71 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:38:09am

#65 Mandy Manners

When I was about 23, I had braces on my teeth. I had an abscessed wisdom tooth, two of them impacted. So, I had all four removed at once by an oral surgeon. Had to use a hammer on them to get 'em out.

Still, I was enjoying the intravenous Valium so much that I told him to take out a few more (he didn't)...

72 mama winger  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:38:16am

Anti-semitic spew hosted by the Washington Post, leading newspaper from our nation's capital.

No consequence at all.

Words put out into the universe reverberate and have a causal effect. "And God said, Let there be light." And there was light.

73 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:38:19am

#69 Cognito 12/9/2006 08:36AM PST

OK.

You are a journalist. Think about this deeply.


WORDS

MAKE


WORLDS

74 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:38:21am

#49 Cognito

It's of no real consequence.

I beg to differ. There's a whole generation of Internet readers out there who did not grow up knowing the difference between reporting/editorializing as it was traditionally presented in paper papers. Might not they be inclined to take this twaddle as reporting, hence believe its objectivity? After all, if it's on the Internet...

75 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:38:45am

#72 mama winger
My GOD we are the same person, LOL

76 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:40:54am

#60 christheprofessor

Oh, dear. I still don't get it. But, I am particularly obtuse this morning.

77 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:42:21am

#76 Mandy Manners

Notice to whom #47 ec marm's post is directed...

78 Cognito  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:43:05am

Mama winger,

Mandy,

Babba,


Like I said,

That's not to say the ideas the writer espouses are inconsequential; that's a whole different deal.

All I'm saying -- and this is the beginning and end of it -- is that this one post, pooped out by a propaganda peddler, will ultimately drift away on the global flow of bad information. Unless, of course, we fixate on it.

79 do_not_spindle  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:43:32am

Seriously - What's the big deal? PostGlobal is like a combination of the Letters to the Editor, Op-Ed page, Sunday Opinion section, and a touch of the ombudsman column (arguably with all the bugs and none of the benefits of any of them). In their own words About PostGlobal:

PostGlobal is an experiment in global, collaborative journalism, a running discussion of important issues among dozens of the world's best-known editors and writers. It aims to create a truly global dialogue, drawing on independent journalists in the countries where news is happening -- from China to Iran, from South Africa to Saudi Arabia, from Mexico to India.

Open Mike (blog) night at the WashPo Improv? Seems like more a rant than a dialog, but they do call it an experiment. The Post's print edition still has better comics (Opus is channeling a Jean Shepherd short story and movie this Sunday) than the WashTimes and my son prefers the sport's coverage. The subscription remains safe - for now.

On reflection - I amend my comment about PostGlobal being all bugs and no benefits - posts like Kuttab's are a great example of the irrationality (Israel Derangement Syndrome?) we're dealing with, stripped bare of the political and diplomatic double-speak.

80 missouri boy  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:44:32am

#40 ibrodsky 12/9/2006 08:17AM PST

We just have to get rid of the evil ideology known as Islam.

Absolutely!
Islam is evil and the world will not be at peace as long as there is islam. Killing islam does not have to mean killing muslims. Destroying everything "holy" to islam will radically change it and its followers.

just one man's opinion.

81 mama winger  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:45:03am

#75 Babba

#72 mama winger
My GOD we are the same person, LOL

Hahaha! When we get to heaven, we are going to have a party!

Maybe we can get our own LGF corner! Wouldn't that be FUN ?!?!? All of us together - can you imagine? :)

82 m  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:45:05am

#78 Cognito
It's not one post... take a look at all of his posts. If you don't see how giving credence to this shyster is consequential I don't know what to tell you.

83 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:45:42am

#79 do_not_spindle

PostGlobal is an experiment in global, collaborative journalism,

That's precisely the problem -- it is not journalism, it is propaganda, pure and simple, passed off to unsuspecting rubes as objective journalism.

84 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:46:28am

#71 christheprofessor

BTDT in spades, CTP. In between extracting teeth before braces to extracting wisdom teeth to about 13 root canals to a bone graft in my jaw, I've had more oral surgery than you can shake a stick at. (The braces' bands around my teeth really screwed them up.)

85 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:48:00am

#77 christheprofessor

Sorry. The filaments in the light bulb above my head are still warming up. Maybe after the next cuppa', they'll light up.

86 ec marm  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:48:23am

ChenZhen, admit it, it did make you laugh. Just a little? Give me five, I want to add something to it, just for you.

87 Cognito  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:49:23am

82 m,

I don't know the guy's other posts. I only know the one at hand, and it's the only one I'm addressing in my comments.

But like #79 Spindle said, this guy is hurting his cause as much as helping it, because his material is so small and obvious that it reveals something about his thinking. Only the most already-devout sharer of his ideas would look at it and say, "Oh my. Good work."

The sane of the world will find another message: "So that's the agenda." Just like so many people here do.

88 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:49:43am

#78 Cognito

True, it's just one "article" but, many drops of water made the Grand Canyon. That doesn't mean any were neglible.

89 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:50:14am

#84 Mandy

Damn, woman! That's a lot of work!

I've been lucky (knock on wood -- knock, knock, knock) -- other than what I described and cavities, I haven't had any problems with my teeth...

90 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:51:28am

#85 Mandy Manners

Hang in there, it'll happen...

91 mama winger  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:51:46am

Up is down

bad is good

spew is neutral

92 SaneInMN  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:52:17am

87...

The sane of the world will find another message: "So that's the agenda." Just like so many people here do.

I agree, but "The sane of the world" are becomming an endangered species.

93 Cognito  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:52:41am

83 christheprofessor,


PostGlobal is an experiment in global, collaborative journalism,

"Collaborative journalism," is of course a euphamism for "cheap content."

And of course you get what you pay for -- I'd say this case illustrates the continued need for professional journalists, striving for objectivity. And hopefully a new generation of them who don't follow the older generation's ideology.

94 mama winger  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:54:41am
I'd say this case illustrates the continued need for professional journalists,


Yes. That's what we need. More of those.

95 thecapitalist  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:55:39am

This might be a little bit off-topic. The Washington Post printed this today about the Mark Foley case. The article title is (how surprising?) 'Committee Says GOP Left Foley Unchecked'. Then you read on and come to this startling and interesting piece: Democratic aides are also criticized, for shopping around inappropriate Foley e-mails to media outlets as far back as November 2005, apparently for political gain.

96 ec marm  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:56:04am

ChenZhen, here you go!

97 IowaInfidel  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:56:22am

#5 Terp Mole

Speaking of "n*****ization", check out how the paleos are treated by their fellow arabs/muslims. Scroll down about halfway to the section titled "Treatment in Arab Countries".

/yeah, I know it's Wikipedia...

98 Cognito  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:56:59am

94 mama winger,

I'd say that comment of mine makes much more sense in context.

99 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:57:34am

#93 Cognito

Agreed. I'm afraid, though, that the only three questions on a J-school admissions application are:

1. Do you want to change the world?

2. Do you want to see Western Civilization fail?

and

3. If the answers to #1 and #2 above are both "Yes," are you willing to lie, cheat, steal, and/or fabricate in pursuit of your agenda?

100 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:58:26am
101 m  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:59:34am

#87 Cognito

I don't know the guy's other posts. I only know the one at hand, and it's the only one I'm addressing in my comments.

Take a look down the sidebar of the story linked...

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102 ilan toren  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:59:50am

Daoud Kuttab is an occasional contributor to the Jerusalem Post. So if an Israeli paper gives hims column space how can I expect the Washington Post to be more Israeli than them.

103 Cognito  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:00:01am

99 Christheprofessor,

I agree, starting with the notion that J-school is a big fat waste of time. Journalism in most of its forms is a trade that requires apprenticeship, not multiple degrees.

That said, there are many forms of journalism, and not all of them are pure evil...

104 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:00:04am

#95 ec marm

Not to be confused with ACLUistic, meaning anti-American...

105 SaneInMN  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:01:21am

In order to become a professional journalist, one only needs to be paid for their publications. There are no national standards to uphold, no bar exams, boards, what have you. However, I believe a professional journalist is someone who comes from a backround outside of journalism schoool, is a competent writer, and subsequently establishes his or herself in the journalism trade. People such as Michael Ledeen, Hugh Hewitt, and Andy McCarthy come to mind.

106 mama winger  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:01:29am

Sweet, Babba . . . thanks :)

107 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:03:01am

#103 Cognito

No disagreement. I can't imagine what would be taught in a grad J-school that isn't or couldn't be covered in an undergrad program.

Oh, wait. I know - they have to remove any future journalists prediliction for honesty, objectivity, and ethics...

108 SaneInMN  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:03:39am

95...

Yeah, the AP story ran a title similar to that, and than the first paragraph went on to say the committee found that Republican's committed no criminal misconduct.

109 brenda  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:04:13am

This is an obnoxious piece for sure, but as far as I can tell, it is not printed in the actual newspaper. So there is less of an imprimatur from the Post.

Many MSM have outlying blogs for fringe material, probably to test for reaction. Ahem.

110 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:05:06am

#78 Cognito

1 makes 2 makes 3 makes 4 makes thousands

You sound like a 1935 European intellectual.

111 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:06:12am
112 ec marm  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:06:19am

#104 christheprofessor

Not to be confused with ACLUistic, meaning anti-American...


Excellent point! I never noticed that. Good catch.

113 Cognito  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:09:31am

110 Babba,

If I sound like a 1935 European intellectual, then... that's a little weird.

Again: I'm not saying the ideas are inconsequential. But words only carry the importance their readers lend them. And I lend none at all to this guy's "work" at this blog.

That's my only point. I find the "work" to be lightweight. Just because somebody says a thing doesn't make it important.

114 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:10:16am

oy.

115 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:10:48am

#89 christheprofessor

I reckon I got the bad-tooth gene. I hope the kid didn't get it 'cause I foresee a future in which dental procedures will not be covered by insurance. As it is, I'm already saving up for the braces I just know he'll need.

116 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:11:54am

#90 christheprofessor

Thanks! The second cuppa' is kicking in as I type.

117 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:13:43am

#112 ec marm

Funny how people's minds work differently -- the very first time somebody posted that word, ACLU was the first thing that jumped out at me...

#114 Mandy Manners

Seems like most companies don't offer dental as part of the employee's paid coverage anymore, either (let alone the kids'). I paid for dental for years, then decided that I'd paid for far more than they'd likely cover for me, so I dropped it.

118 ec marm  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:14:46am

#104 christheprofessor
All fixed! Thanks.

119 christheprofessor  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:18:40am

#118 ec marm

Heh™. You might add ", anti-Israeli, anti-Christian, anti-freedom, and pro-tyranny."

120 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:19:39am

#87 Cognito

One of the first things my professor told us in J-School was that we should write to an 8th-grade mentality. I don't think most 13 year olds can discern objectivity from agenda.

121 Muadib  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:27:13am

Israel is an asset to anyone that believes in living free.

Palestine is a contemptuous fabrication.

122 ec marm  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:37:38am

CTP

Works for me.


(Accidentally posted on another thread)

/Barack Hussein Obama, suppositional next President of the United States of America

123 Spiny Norman  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:41:25am

#121 Muadib

Israel is an asset to anyone that believes in living free.

You would think that should be obvious. The navel-gazing Left, however, is blinded by their adolescent infatuation with "primitivism" ... the Death Cult being only their latest crush.

124 ChenZhen  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 7:47:28am

#96 ec marm 12/9/2006 08:56AM PST

Wow. Hope that didn't involve too much effort. I'm not even feeling particularly trollish today. Maybe you should save something for later on?

125 credit man  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 8:03:49am

Washington Post Article: Isreal a Liability

There is a strong affection for the fundamentalist christain for Isreal. Dhimmi (rhymes with Jimmi)crats know this. They also hate Geo Bush. Thus using the connection of Isreal with the fundamentalist christain they can start a wedge issue. The issue: If we cut the ties with Isreal we will have peace from the Muslims.

I am in sympathy with those that see this as the overall problem. (The real problem is that the Jews are still breathing.) The deep down lack of self-esteem problems with Muslims are all stemming from this Isreal-Palestine situation. This is probably Horsh*t because just being in the Isreali population, the Muslims can out-breed the rest of the populations and take over Isreal's government.

126 realwest  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 8:05:07am

#44 Carl in Jerusalem - no disrespect intended to you or to the State of Israel, for whom I've always been a great friend, but that fact that the Jerusalem Post publishes this idjit regularly doesn't surprise me at all.
I don't think ANYTHING about Israeli politics could surprise me any more. I just can't figure it out.
Course, I can't figure out US politics all that well, either, but that's for a different post.

127 realwest  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 8:09:36am

#101 {m} I know it wasn't your intent, but I went to and read those links and now I'm nauseous!

128 Catttt  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 8:14:10am

Mr. Kuttab - don't hold your breath.

First, don't EVER assume that Americans will turn their backs on Israel. We may be the only country not to do so, but that won't change this fact. Earlier this year, a Gallup poll found American support of Israel has gone up, while support for Palestinians, always low, has gone down even more.

Also, don't assume that President Carter's or Mr. Baker's well-known anti-Israel bias in any way reflects or will change the majority opinion in Congress.

The new head of the House International Relations Committe next year will be its ranking Democrat member, Rep. Tom Lantos. Rep. Lantos is the only holocaust survivor in Congress. He is a staunch (to say the least) supporter of Israel.

The new Speaker of the House, Rep. Nancy Pelosi, and many other Democrats, spoke out against President Carter's new anti-Israel book. She is staunchly pro-Israel. In 2005, she said this:

There are those who contend that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is all about Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. In truth, the history of the conflict is not over occupation, and never has been; it is over the fundamental right of Israel to exist.

129 Right Side  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 8:28:04am
PostGlobal is an experiment in global, collaborative journalism, a running discussion of important issues among dozens of the world's best-known editors and writers. It aims to create a truly global dialogue, drawing on independent journalists in the countries where news is happening -- from China to Iran, from South Africa to Saudi Arabia, from Mexico to India.


And therefore, PostGlobal will suffer from the same mental illness that the U.N. suffers from: Because all countries are treated equally, the insane can outnumber the sane. (Whereas in a real mental hospital, the patients aren't allowed to wrest control of the place from the doctors, even though the patients outnumber the doctors.)

If every one of the 190 countries on Earth gets an opportunity to express its point of view in PostGlobal, the overwhelming majority of these points of view will be anti-democratic, anti-American, anti-Western, and anti-Semitic. Because that's exactly what the majority of nations now believe. (At least officially.) They're petty dictatorships, often corrupt.

130 ec marm  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 8:30:49am

#124 ChenZhen

Wow. Hope that didn't involve too much effort. I'm not even feeling particularly trollish today. Maybe you should save something for later on?


Not too much effort. I thought the GW Bush dart board was a nice touch, don't you think?

You're not trollish today? The day after Cindy McNutjob filed impeachment papers on the President? I think we're starting to get to you, you think? After all, and I'm going to whisper this here, even Ronald Reagan was once a democrat.

131 leftout  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 8:34:26am

Whooo, love that song Presence of the Lord
Once again an Australian "gets it"

Watch how quickly the US succumbs to terrorism. If the US abandons Israel the US won't last much longer either...
As an Australian I thought that the US was the last sane powerful country to stand up and not appease terrorism. It looks like that is all changing very very quickly.

Posted by: Melanie Pereira, Melbourne, Australia | December 9, 2006 01:46 AM


All Western countries have their left, right, and center. If the left wins the day, civilization will will succumb to the lowest elements of brute human emotion and conduct; and not the contrary, as liberals think.

132 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 8:45:06am

OT on all the threads

HAPPY SATURDAY LIZARDS !

3000 more centrifuges announced by Iamadinnerjacket.

religion of nukes

133 stuiec  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 9:13:32am

Hmm...

So far we are a far cry from what is needed to put a real end to the misery caused by the injustice of the nearly 40-year-old occupation of Palestine.

So he dates the occupation to 1967?

Something tells me he's going to get a 2 AM knock on the door by the fellows in black balaclavas and green headbands demanding to know why he didn't say "the nearly 60-year-old occupation of Palestine."

People get hauled out and shot in Gaza for less egregious deviations from the Palestinian party line.

134 Bearster  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 9:19:06am

It would be much easier to fight for civilization, without the fifth column known as the "mainstream media".

Anyone who refuses to see that Islam is a death cult, anyone who refuses to see that Israel is a civilized Western country, and anyone who refused to learn that appeasing murderers will get you killed, is either dishonest or else wants civilization to be destroyed.

135 Muadib  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 9:51:28am

#123 Spiny Norman

My primitivism period came and went during my seventeenth year of life. A dark time for me. These days, I have no patience for adults that cling to sophomoric idiotarian philosophies.

136 Spiny Norman  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 11:12:17am

#135 Muadib

While searching for a quote for another commenter at Tim Blair's blog, I found this beautifully succinct explanation for the West's wrong-headed affair with touchy-feely multiculturalism:

William Rose Benét, scholar, essayist, and founder of the Saturday Review, defined primitivism as
"a persistant tendency in European literature, art, and thought since the 18th century to attribute superior virtue to primitive, non-European civilizations… Later primitivism expanded to include among the objects ot its enthusiasm the violent, the crude, undeveloped, ignorant, naïve, non-intellectual or sub-intelligent of any kind, such as peasants, children and idiots."

It’s interesting how many of these words — other than “violent” — apply to Henry David Thoreau. Montaigne was a naïf and Rousseau a screwball, but it’s Thoreau who’s actually taught in our schools. And it is into the wet, dense muck of Walden the Roderick Nash, Edward Abby, John Davis, Christopher Manes, and the party of ten loud women have dipped their wicks.

Thoreau took the bad ideas and worse ideals of the primitives, added the pitiful self-obsession of the romantics, and mixed all of this into trancendentalism, that stew of bossy Brahmin spiritual hubris.

The trancendentalists were much devoted to taking the most ordinary thoughts and ideas and investing them with preposterous spiritual gravity. They saw the divine in everything, even in long, boring lectures about how everything is divine. Any random peek into the essays of Ralph Waldo Emerson will show you the method by which “Don’t Litter” has been turned into an entire secular religion.

-- P.J. O'Rourke, All the Trouble in the World

So we can blame Rousseau, Montaigne, Thoreau, Emerson and generations of nincompoop wackademics who see them as prophets for the crisis in which Western Civilization finds itself.

137 _remembertonyc  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 11:16:37am

I didn't read all of the posts in the thread, so if this has already been said, I apologize for being repetitive:

The Washington ComPost is a piece of shit

138 Ronnie Schreiber  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 12:48:20pm
#59 BabbaZee 12/9/2006 08:30AM PST

#54 mama winger
Zola died recently, may his name live forever!

Baruch Dayan HaEmett
- Blessed be the true Judge.

Levitt should be remembered in the manner in which we remember Korach. Though my guess is that Korach knew more about Judaism than Levitt.

#63 Cognito 12/9/2006 08:33AM PST

59 Babba,

Zola Levitt died? Well good gosh. I had no idea.

What a downer.

Yimach sh'mo v'zichrono

Besides being pretty nuts (to the point of being institutionalized at times, I've been told), Zola Levitt promulgated intellectually dishonest distortions of Judaism in order to satisfy his own psychoreligious needs and keep the dollars flowing in to his ministry from Christians.

Sorry guys, but "Messianic Jews" are promoting a deception. It is deeply offensive to suggest that Jews need to become Christians in order to be "completed" as Jews.

Shavuah tov to all MOTs

139 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 12:50:32pm
140 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 12:58:10pm
141 Ronnie Schreiber  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 1:05:59pm
song_and_dance_man

Hey Bob,

How are Peter, Maria and the grandkids doing?

142 Muadib  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 1:10:54pm

#136 Spiny Norman

Blame them and/or those that can't balance idealism with basic survival skills.

143 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 1:13:22pm
144 Ronnie Schreiber  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 1:23:32pm
Peter is granted through falsified and quite mythical history the wrong office, his direct descendant not really being whom he thinks he is.

Wrong Peter. This one's real name is Pesach.

145 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 1:30:13pm
146 The Monster  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 1:37:02pm

And does the WaPo not even have copy editors anymore? Who the hell is "Rumsfield"? If you can't get simple facts such as the spelling of the name of the Secretary of Defense right, your credibility goes to hell in a hurry.

147 PostWatch  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 2:27:22pm

As noted above, this item appears in PostGlobal. It isn't in the Washington Post newspaper--it's a product of Washington Post Newsweek Interactive; the part of WPNI that I'm most familiar with at PostWatch is, of course, washingtonpost.com, which publishes all of the newspaper's content and much, much more, including live chats with Post reporters and public figures, a separate stable of blogs by people like Dan Froomkin and Jefferson Morley (yeah, most if not all on the left), and a bunch of other stuff. The main thing is, there's overlap in content but WPNI has a separate staff and reports to a different boss than the journalists at the Post.


As for PostGlobal, it's an Op Ed feature, and includes featured comments by invited bloggers, including me (I've only provided an item once so far). PostGlobal issues questions on a regular basis, and then panelists and bloggers and commenters respond. It's supposedly moderated by David Ignatius and Fareed Zakaria, but their presence appears to be a light one.

The item Charles objects to is just one response to the question "If the American era in the Middle East is ending, as argued by some analysts, what is likely to replace it? Chaos? Self-determination? Iranian hegemony? A new caliphate?" The column, of course, is nonsense, but it's not "The Washington Post" that should be ashamed, if indeed anybody should be ashamed other than the author. Another column on the same topic by a Haaretz writer concludes the U.S. isn't exactly going away (it's a pretty lame question anyway). However, not to snow anyone, it would not surprise me if PostGlobal had a net anti-American tilt.

148 big L  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 3:52:25pm

16-ronaldusmagnus- good grief indeed!
It makes me nauseous to think that in reder to be collegial with the rest of the world we have to be paella-eating surrender pollos.

What is it wth the lefties that makes Euro thinking so attractive? It must be because it is easy and like looking in a mirror.
CAW, CAW- two Mynah birds sitting on a perch.

149 Alouette  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 4:55:44pm

Why should the "Washington Compost" be ashamed to publish the seething dreck of Daoud Kuttab when he is a regular contributor to the JERUSALEM POST.

150 neverquit  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 5:06:43pm

Well, you know, it's always the Mossad...

The U.S. invaded and destroyed Iraq in order to humiliate and divide Muslims – Arabs in particular –, protect Israel’s Zionist expansion and control Iraq’s natural wealth.

To destroy Iraq as an independent nation, the U.S. initiated the criminal campaign of “De-Ba’athification”, which implied the liquidation of anyone associated with the Ba’ath Party as well as anyone with anti-Occupation nationalist views. “De-Ba’athification” is simply a murderous campaign for inciting violence and destroying the Iraqi society. Together with the Israeli Mossad, U.S. Special Forces, the pro-Occupation militias and death squads have embarked on deliberate campaign of assassinations and ethnic cleansing.

So, you see, the Arabs, and the entire Muslim world are just innocent peace brokers in the world...(sarcasm)

151 BabbaZee  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 5:55:46pm

#138 Ronnie Schreiber

I didn't agree with everything Zola said.
I don't agree with everything anyone ever says...
as to whether he was crazy who knows, I didn't know him, I can't testify.

Certainly you could find plenty of peopl who would call me crazy too. Doesn't mean I am.

Do I think all "messianic Jews" are horrible people with terrible agendas?
No.

I do think "Jews for Jesus " is a misguided and foolish conversion organization,
but Zola was not a "Jew for Jesus" member...
so I never looked at him that way.

Would I join a "messianic Jewish congregation"?
No.

But I have no desire to join any congregation.
I am, have been and will alway be outside all organized religion.

I take things from all sides and filter them through Torah and through my personal views.

Zola had some good programs and some good articles.

Take it for what it's worth or don't take it, makes no never mind to me. I liked him, I wish him well, and I do hope his name lives forever.

I have zero religious axe to grind other than against Islam.

152 Muadib  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:01:27pm

150 neverquit

Ghali Hassan is nuts!

153 surfer dude  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 6:33:36pm

Ah yes...once again we have the same old, "the ememy of one of my country's strongest allies is my friend" routine.

AKA "treason"

But wait, the WaPo is neutral isn't it?

154 Ban Draoi  Sat, Dec 9, 2006 9:32:46pm

The Compost can take their Judenhass and shove it. It's beginning to look, feel, and sound like 1938 all over again.

It is when I see crap like this that I remind myself "when you see these things, look up for your redemption draws near."

And I remember the fun chapters of Ezekiel 38 and 39 where the dingdongs who are threatening Israel come face to face with the original "bottled sunshine" courtesy of the One Who made it in the first place.


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