In my country, ALL pools would be NUDE ONLY.

Nothing new here, they've been doing that in Seattle for years.

Zombie, even people with cottage cheese texture butt celluite?

The burqini covers everything except hands and feet

An instant classic! The burqini!

OT

More Winter Weather than I know what to do with watch. My icy cup runneth over!

Besides possible weekend ice storm North Texas (DFW? Not sure yet) and Oklahoma, we have near blizzard conditions possible early week in Chicago, and right on the razor's edge for monster snow in BOS per Canadian early next week.

GFS keeps storm a little further South and weaker, initially, so not as big a deal in Chicago, but again, BOS on the screaming edge of the rain snow line.

-23ºC with 40 knot winds in Winnipeg!

Now, I'm no statistics guy, and I have no idea what a standard deviation means in actual degrees Farenheit above or below normal from climatology, but every GFS ensemble member predicts greater than 1 SD below normal in 850 temps Tuesday afternoon, and that with cross polar airmasses, the surface temps are often actually cooler than the temps at about 1500 meters, well, I'm impress!

BTW- Mike C- 85% or more of the ensemble members at a week are greater than 2 SD below normal, centered near El Paso, TX, but a similar number are greater than 2 SD above normal just North of the Mongolian border in the once and future Soviet Union.

You want a pool? Pool your money and start a YICA.

Linky.

Note that this is a public, as in taxpayer-support pool.

"...and they’re quite depressed,” she said.

Going through life in a head-to-toe gunny sack can have that effect.

Behold the burqini

Woops! Guess that should be YMIA or YWIA

guaranteed suicide: if the gear doesn't drag the woman under then anyone attempting to save her ensures she will be put to death for unseemly public behavior with a man.

Very sensible. I predict a suicide fashion fad officially sanctioned by fatwa.

#3 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Zombie, even people with cottage cheese texture butt celluite?

No: as fascist dictator-for-life, I would force cellulite-possessers to use their own separate pool facilities. We'd refer to this system as "AA" -- appearance apartheid.

I suppose if the muslim community wants muslimae to have their own private swimming facilities then it is perfectly permissable most places to build one as a private sports facility.

Now if they want the PUBLIC to pay for it, then that is a different thing entirely... no $ for religious entities.

re:#9
There's a Karate burka too!

It really is difficult to explain why more women than men convert to Islam, which is actually true. I can come up with some politically incorrect answers, but maybe I'll refrain from stating them.

New reality show "Drowning for Dollars er dinars"

Entrepreneurs, sensing opportunity, move in to fill the demand for oppressive women’s swimming garb:

Sommehow I don't think this is the solution they had in mind.

#9 Killgore Trout
Behold the burqini

Little by little, those burqinis are becoming more like regular "one-piecer" bathing suits.

Let the Westernization and degradation of Islam continue apace!

You are funny, Charles!

#9 Killgore Trout
I find I am having trouble distinguishing between the slim fit and the modest fit...

#16 Fjordman: sado-masochism will probably explain most female conversions

It's been medically established at (I think) Leeds, UK, that Rickets is making a comeback because more and more people i.e. Muslims in tents, are not getting sufficient exposure to sunlight.

So that's the return of yet another disease that had been thought essentially ended here ... along with TB and sundry other things.

Send them all back.

So, when do the Kiwis come up with some fashionable stoning?

New Zealand MP: Some Stoning OK

Muslim MP Ashraf Choudhary will not condemn the traditional Koran punishment of stoning to death some homosexuals and people who have extra-marital affairs.

I am shocked. Muslims demanding Muslim culture in non Muslim lands? I am shcoked I tell you.

I want to live in a world where leftists compare Bush to Hitler (and anyone or anything else they don't like = Hitler); Where women are considered low class meat puppets; Where moral equivalences and imaginary grievances trump real oppression and suffering; Where fighting real oppression and evil is considered evil and ignoring real oppression is considered peaceful and caring;
Where liars are given MSM microphones and soft-ball questions and truth tellers are shunned and called "mean".

oh wait - we already do live in that world.

Naaz Shah of Christchurch said many Muslim women had no opportunities to exercise and were putting on weight as a result

Who believes this shit?!?! They can still use the sidewalks, right? It's not Australia's fault their husbands won't take them out for an evening constitutional...

Naaz Shah of Christchurch said many Muslim women had no opportunities to exercise and were putting on weight as a result, the Press newspaper reported today.

“They become medically unfit. Their health is affected and they’re quite depressed,” she said.

Girlfriend, the only health advice you need to worry about is, "Don't talk back to Mahmoud, beeyotch!"

Why are Muslims living in an infidel city like Christchurch? The name alone should be haraam to them. Same for Corpus Christi and any place beginning with "San" "Saint" and "Santa."

Now why is it that I only get a chance to post today on this thread? Do you suppose the Maker is trying to tell me something about my cellulite thighs?

/pass me the chocolate

how 'bout some concrete shoes to match the swimwear...

and oh so sorry about the shoe insult...ummm..not.

Can't really blame guys for seeing a market and exploiting it.

#21 J.D.
I think it's a joke. They're all "Sharia fit".

I am going to build the Islamic Olympic Swimming Team Memorial in which to house all the great Muslim swimmers.
/a vacant PODS building ought to suffice
//no Ted Kennedy is not eligible

Fjordman: sado-masochism will probably explain most female conversions

Like I said, I could probably suggest some answers to the riddle, but the feminists here would probably want to chop my testicles off.

Another example of the clever west coming up with a new form of torture. This is no doubt a variant of this method of torture.

In all, I still think we should call this sort of "make them fat" torture schmorgasboarding.

Did they go swimming while in their native countries?

Muslim women had no opportunities to exercise and were putting on weight as a result

Never heard of jogging?...or sit-ups?

In related news: female Muslim lifegaurds at Austrailian beaches will be wearing "burqinis" when saving lives.

It is a full-length lycra suit which is loose enough to preserve Muslim women’s modesty but light enough to enable them to swim and rescue flailing bathers from treacherous rips and undertows. It even comes with a built-in hijab, or head scarf, and will soon be produced in the distinctive red and yellow of the surf life saving movement.

“Normally I’d wear cotton trousers and a top but they get very heavy in the water. This meets our cultural requirements,” the 20-year-old student said as she patrolled the white sands of Cronulla.

The group’s trainer, Tony Coffey, 49, said the burqini made swimming more difficult compared with being dressed in a bikini or swimsuit.

“It’s the biggest hurdle they face. But we can’t do anything about it, it’s part of the deal. They just need more intensive training.”

(I posted this the other day but it fits this thread)

Pelosi Threatens Symbolic Vote on Bush Iraq Plan

...The Speaker said she would call the full House to order, and take two votes.

“I’ll ask those who oppose the president’s troop surge to raise their right hands,” she said, “and those who favor rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces to raise their left hands as well.”...

#29 Alouette:

Why are Muslims living in an infidel city like Christchurch? The name alone should be haraam to them. Same for Corpus Christi and any place beginning with "San" "Saint" and "Santa."

They'll get to that. Give 'em time.

Fjordmann

It may be that Muslim men being permitted to marry non-Muslim women, while Muslim women are not even allowed to glance at non-Muslim men, has something to do with it? So more women end up comverting.

Where could I find relevant numbers? Any ideas?

I don't know ... just taking a flying guess.

There are calls for special pool facilities to be set up for Muslim women so they can swim without compromising their religious beliefs.

gawddamn, what a bunch of backward people.

“ Bikini? Nein, Burqini ”
Ach du liber Gott! Mien Schnitzel!

#28 BH 1/11/2007 11:00AM PST

Naaz Shah of Christchurch said many Muslim women had no opportunities to exercise and were putting on weight as a result, the Press newspaper reported today.

“They become medically unfit. Their health is affected and they’re quite depressed,” she said.

Girlfriend, the only health advice you need to worry about is, "Don't talk back to Mahmoud, beeyotch!"

Funny, isn't it? They spend their lives locked in a black bag, live in fear that they might somehow tarnish the family "honor" or be traded away as payment because someone else did, have an endless number of children, live with mutilated genitals that prevent sexual pleasure and cause numerous medical problems... the list goes on and on...and yet it is the lack of exercise that is the cause of their poor health and depression!

#38 Ringo the Gringo 1/11/2007 11:02AM PST

Muslim women had no opportunities to exercise and were putting on weight as a result
Never heard of jogging?...or sit-ups?

In related news: female Muslim lifegaurds at Austrailian beaches will be wearing "burqinis" when saving lives.

Not even an initial fear of sharks has put her off.

“I figured I’d swim next to one of the fatter members of the club and hopefully they’d get eaten instead of me,” she said.

From your link

Years ago I would explain at length some esoteric or perfectly obvious point of civilized life to my young son in order to make him a better person.
I would carefully expound all the rules of proper behavior, as we have tried to do with the [bigoted word] oddities pictured in the link.
In both cases the reply was the same-
"What?"
If you need a pool of your own, go build one at your expense. Probably end up using it to drown your daughters anyway.

Other than the public factor:

There is nothing wrong with this

Muslim gymnastics = another oxymoron

#1 zombie:

In my country, ALL pools would be NUDE ONLY.

No.

No.

A thousand times "no".

Not a good idea. You, of all people, should know that. I'm thinking of some of the subjects featured in your photo exposés. Do you really want Inflated You-Know-What Guy to show up nude at the pool?

#40 bh

Damn, I would even move to San Francisco if it was declared haraam.

#35 Fjordman

Like I said, I could probably suggest some answers to the riddle, but the feminists here would probably want to chop my testicles off.

I don't know. Some schools of feminist thought insist that the societal pressure to maintain a Playboy-centerfold body is just another way women are suppressed by the establishment. The emphasis on looking like a pre-pubescent boy with big boobs, and the unnatural things women do to their bodies to look that way, are more constricting as the Victorian corset or the ancient Chinese foot-binding.

I can seriously see the relief a woman who has wasted her productive years trying to conform to the Western standards of feminine beauty can feel by donning the burqa. She'll be respected AND she doesn't have to do extra sit-ups, while a woman who gives up the self-torture for baggy jeans and sweatshirts is routinely mocked and belittled.

Here is a completely different perspective on this and other such controversies:

[Link: www.clothesfreeclub.com...]

(probably NSFW if there is a prohibition against naked bottoms at your worksite)

Isn't it dangerous to swim with all of that fabric?

#45 Elric66,

“I figured I’d swim next to one of the fatter members of the club and hopefully they’d get eaten instead of me,” she said.

Muslim humor.

It may be that Muslim men being permitted to marry non-Muslim women, while Muslim women are not even allowed to glance at non-Muslim men, has something to do with it? So more women end up comverting.

Well, but Christian or Jewish women don't have to convert to marry a Muslim, whereas Christian or Jewish men do. Shouldn't that actually make the number of male converts higher? I don't think that explanation is very good.

That's not a pool, that's a 100 by 40 urinal.

#49 OR
I am sending you the bill for the therapy I have to undergo now.
/pass me the brain floss

I seem to recall, a group we may have heard of, the Taliban, didn't allow women to go to the doctor...so...either it doesn't matter if they are unfit, or they can't see a doctor if they are, so long as the muslim men control things their way...

Let them build their own swimming pools with private (read:Saudi) funds. Then they can discriminate to their little bigoted, self-righteous hearts desire.

If they're using public pools at the same time as everyone else, I couldn't care less what they wear or don't wear.

Just don't pee in the pool.

Even if it doesn't make you look fat, it makes you look enslaved.

What happens when you fart in a Burqini?

#54 Ringo the Gringo 1/11/2007 11:07AM PST

#45 Elric66,

“I figured I’d swim next to one of the fatter members of the club and hopefully they’d get eaten instead of me,” she said.

Muslim humor.

I guess. Usually when they have quotes like that, they include that the person said it humorously.

Muslim women had no opportunities to exercise and were putting on weight as a result,

Well, well, well... first of all, Muslim women have never been a hit, That's why the Rape Sheik call up Muslim Youth to rape white meat.

Secondly, try to eat all day long Humus and Falafel, give a birth to one baby a year, and remain skinny

Does This Burqa Make Me Look Fat?

No. Your enormous ass takes care of that on its own.

#51 HeatherRadish:

The emphasis on looking like a pre-pubescent boy with big boobs

Just a partial defense of us hetero guys; you've got us (generally) on the big boobs preference, but relatively few men prefer wafer-thin "pre-pubescent boy" bodies, like those of high fashion models. That seems to be a self-punishment that women thought up all by themselves (or possibly with the help of gay men).

49 OR
He'd float upside down and the Sea gulls would land on them.

Hubba, Hubba, Hubba. This sound almost as hot a as a goat in a garter belt

The Birqini isn't new...just the name. It used to be called a loose wet suit!

Does This Burqa Make Me Look Fat?
No. Your enormous ass takes care of that on its own.

Damn you Kragar. I was just about to something along those lines.

#61 Peacekeeper

What happens when you fart in a Burqini?

Rotating title nominee.
There's coffee on my monitor now.

Six years ago I decided that I wanted to be able to swim regularly - for health and recreation - so I had a swimming pool built in my backyard.

#39 J.D. 1/11/2007 11:02AM PST

Pelosi Threatens Symbolic Vote on Bush Iraq Plan

...The Speaker said she would call the full House to order, and take two votes.

“I’ll ask those who oppose the president’s troop surge to raise their right hands,” she said, “and those who favor rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces to raise their left hands as well.”...

Glad to see they're spending their time so constructively. Taking time out to make votes that don't matter, on subjects they can't do anything about.

Just awesome. I'm so glad we have this new party to stop governmental waste.

#66 PK:

He'd float upside down and the Sea gulls would land on them.

Or: "Oh, there's the volleyball, it landed right over there next to that other one, hey, I'll pick it up and AIIIEEE!..."

This might be suitable for Islamic beach/poolwear.

I would have thought chasing around eight or nine little mohamadens would be good exercise and keep those fat burka clad behinds moving.

Muslim woman enjoys the beach.

It looks like my wife's wetsuit. Even comes with the "hoodie" for those cold surfs.

Muslim women also don't get enough sun.

Muslim women are screwed here, because we can't set up a little sun inside each burkah.

. Naaz Shah of Christchurch said many Muslim women had no opportunities to exercise and were putting on weight as a result, the Press newspaper reported today.

“They become medically unfit. Their health is affected and they’re quite depressed,” she said.

. And when they get depressed they really start to blow up.

#61 Peacekeeper
"Your Burkini may also be used as a floatation device."

65 OR

I will admit--you're probably right. I know my husband is...um...quite satisfied with my less-than-perfect physique.

But you can't convince the majority of women under a certain age that they are never going to look like the airbrushed model. They do ridiculous things to gain that temporary glory.

Annoys me to no end. Fjordman, I wouldn't be surprised by any of your thoughts on this, and would actually be glad to hear them.

/may have to move to lurk mode soon

Boobs. Yeah Boobs...but not on a boy.

There are calls for special pool facilities to be set up for Muslim women so they can swim without compromising their religious beliefs.

Fill the pool with crude oil. They can swim in that just fine.

JWM

Does This Burqa Make Me Look Fat?
No. Your enormous ass takes care of that on its own.

LOL!

The emphasis on looking like a pre-pubescent boy with big boobs

Very few of those "pre-pubescent boy" types have big boobs either, so in the end your stuck with a gaunt, sickly looking woman that looks like she just escaped from a Bosnian death camp.

I prefer Italian women precisely because they don't adhere to the wafer thin standard of beauty.

Minchia!

"No flesh is to be shown, except for the hand, feet and face," he said, although he acknowledges, "Islam is open to interpretation."

[from the article]

I FART in the general direction of the "Islam is open to interpretation" comment!

Isn't the opposite what we hear all the time from these idiots?

OR
It's sort of like how with alligators only their eyes potrude from the water.

Considering the difference between a minimal men's swimsuit
and nude swimming, one would think that such a garment would really take a lot of the fun out of a swim.

Hey! Get outta my sun!

#24 Fjordman

So, when do the Kiwis come up with some fashionable stoning?

I see them using there own custom made stones in a velvet lined box (Much like dart aficionados). Want to go in on a business?

#78 Cattt

Muslim women also don't get enough sun.

Muslim women are screwed here, because we can't set up a little sun inside each burkah.

If it's ultraviolet rays they want, I say we give it to them.

How would anyone know they were gaining weight under that tent?

My mom operates a home day care center and she used to keep the daughters of a former classmate of mine, who converted to Islam and donned the full hefty bag (in bright colors, not just black). She was kind of a big girl, and she had gastric bypass surgery to lose weight. As my mom said, "Why? Who's going to know?"

can we put cement in the pockets to help them become stronger swimmers ?

If you can get some of those "Stone the Devil" ride stones from
Haj PArk, that will work.
"Stone your friends neighbors and idolators".
Fun for the whole family.

I got my swimsuit from Mohammed's Secret.

Muslim women also don't get enough sun.

That part is actually true:

Although a few minutes of exposure to sunlight every day should take care of the problem, 90 % of the women still suffer from a lack of vitamin D. What does that indicate about how much these women are cut off from society?

Dirk

Why is she cupping her boob? She looks like she's about to have an accident, if you ask me.

#37 ROPMA

Did they go swimming while in their native countries?

Nope, all beach, no waves.

From Baywatch to Burkawatch. This show will tank.

Hey, if they want to fund their own swimming pool and do one sex only, then I have no problem. But if they want to kick me out of facility to comply with their religion, then they can take a hike. most especially if it is a publicly funded one.

Personally, I have never seen a batch of people who have less come to grips with not treating each other as baggage in my life.

#92 doppelganglander 1/11/2007 11:21AM PST

How would anyone know they were gaining weight under that tent?

My mom operates a home day care center and she used to keep the daughters of a former classmate of mine, who converted to Islam and donned the full hefty bag (in bright colors, not just black). She was kind of a big girl, and she had gastric bypass surgery to lose weight. As my mom said, "Why? Who's going to know?"

I would of asked why she converted.

I prefer Italian women precisely because they don't adhere to the wafer thin standard of beauty.

The Italian women I've known eat about twice a week...

#85 Dirk Diggler:

I prefer Italian women precisely because they don't adhere to the wafer thin standard of beauty.

Me, I'm Mr. Eclectic. A woman like Ms. Cucinotta will certainly cause me to, um, notice her (and indeed, she bears quite a close resemblance to my gf [breathing contented "life is good" sigh yet again]), but can also appreciate a long n' lean look as well.

But that's not what we're here to talk about.

I really, truly would have no problem with the "burquini", if it weren't for all the cultural baggage that comes along with it. This isn't just like seeing Amish women in their traditional garb and thinking, "well, not my bag, but whatever works for you"; it's a symptom of something much more troubling.

Fjordman #16

It really is difficult to explain why more women than men convert to Islam, which is actually true. I can come up with some politically incorrect answers, but maybe I'll refrain from stating them.

#35

Like I said, I could probably suggest some answers to the riddle, but the feminists here would probably want to chop my testicles off.

You're so enigmatic today, my friend from Scandinavia; It seems you've got some big idea and wnat to make lots of money: new burqini?

What's wrong with boob cupping?

Less money for Qassam rockets = more money for swimming holes.

Also, are they demanding public money to build swimming pools that will then discriminate against the very people who paid for them? Do you really think they are going to allow burqini-less women to swim let alone women to swim with men at all? As always, let's add insult to injury.

Anything wrong with this?

#96 fjordman

This is a big problem also in Israel, where the Muslim and Ultra-Orthodox Jews also are very covered up all the time. They don't get enough sunlight on their skin.

Did anyone post a burkhini picture yet? They are too funny.

The burqini : Coppertone, et al, will protest.

#76 Peacekeeper

Thanks - quesadilla chunks are now embedded in my keyboard.

At least they won't have to buy a Holloween costume when its time for trick-or-treat.

Perhaps Saudi Arabia should foot the bill for this pool.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

Just remove I-S-M and it paints the picture perfect

[Link: www.townhall.com...]

Dirk

Wow. Time to retire Adriana as the LGF pin-up girl.

HeatherRadish

I can seriously see the relief a woman who has wasted her productive years trying to conform to the Western standards of feminine beauty can feel by donning the burqa. She'll be respected AND she doesn't have to do extra sit-ups

Respect? No. Contempt disguised as respect.

#107 NoSub

Good Lord, no!

OR
If that's your idea of attractive, get a load of this...

Wasn't "Burqini" an escape artist?

OT
. . .all the incentive I needed to stay the hell away from fast food and stick to my new years resolution. . .I was listening to Fox Cable news when they began reporting about this story:

Fast-food giants cater to Muslims

By Noreen S. Ahmed-Ullah
Tribune staff reporter
Published January 4, 2007

First, the new owner of a nearby Kentucky Fried Chicken began trying to lure shoppers in the heart of South Asian Devon Avenue. Then a Brown's Chicken and Pasta popped up a few blocks away.

It seemed a strange juxtaposition--all-American fast food, elbow-to-elbow with pungent cuisine from the other side of the globe.

But the secret ingredient both outlets offered was halal, the Islamic analog of kosher, a promise that the meat has been slaughtered and prepared in accordance with Islamic teachings.

How about some photos of Israeli women enjoying the beach.

#113 godfrey:

Time to retire Adriana as the LGF pin-up girl.

godfrey, I don't gratuitously insult your religion, now do I?

LOL! No sooner had I wrote "pictures" than SHAAZZZAAAM, the Lizard Grand Poobah provides.

Fjordman, let's hear it.

I'm not a feminist so I don't care. LOL.

Is it just me-or can anyone else still tell that she has quite perky ta tas? Burkhini shmurkini-hers look pretty real and fabulous.

/not that there is anything wrong with that

91 Lazarus

I suppose vitamin D supplements would help, but I think wearing normal 21st century clothes would work too.

High bone turnover in Muslim women with vitamin D deficiency

Setting and participants: 146 women living in an urban community in south-western Sydney with adequate opportunities for sun exposure.

...

Chronic vitamin D deficiency may lead to osteomalacia and/or osteoporosis, with an increased risk of fragility fractures.1 In Australia, with its multicultural population, a resurgence of vitamin D deficiency has been noted recently.

Oooo...sexy toes.

#96 Fjordman

Muslim women also don't get enough sun.

This one seems to.

I like that Burkini...

Behold the James Burker

Thye burquini itself is quite disapointing. From a free man's point of view, of course.

OR

You will be assimilated.

#125 E2M:

What is the context of that photo, any way?

Charles, you almost got it right:
Does this burqini make me look fatwa?

Do you think Sports Illustrated will do a burkini edition? Me neither.

Zulubaby, ok:

Western Feminism and the Need for Submission

Writer Lars Hedegaard in Denmark does not buy into the theory that women approve of Muslim immigration out of irrational naivety or ideological conviction. He thinks they simply want it, as he writes in a column entitled “The dream of submission.” He does notice, as I do, that women are more likely than men to support parties that are open for more Muslim immigration.

Why is this, considering that there is hardly a single Muslim majority area in the world where women enjoy the same rights as men? And Hedegaard asks a provocative question: Are women more stupid and less enlightened than men, since they in such great numbers are paving the way for their own submission? He comes up with an equally provocative answer: “When women are paving the way for sharia, this is presumably because women want sharia.” They don’t want freedom because they feel attracted to subservience and subjugation.

The English author Fay Weldon has noted that “For women, there is something sexually very alluring about submission.” And as Hedegaard dryly notes, if submission is what many women seek, the feminized Danish men are boring compared to desert sheikhs who won’t allow you to go outside without permission. Muslims like to point out that there are more women than men in the West who convert to Islam, and this is in fact partly true. Islam means “submission.” Is there something about submission that is more appealing to some women than it is to most men? Do women yield more easily to power?

They want to use their own money to build their separate facilities, as some posters have suggested? Fine. There are plenty of JCCs as models, although the JCC is often so awesome that non-Jews join (unlikely they will let kuffirs in.) Some entrepreneur sees a market? I'm all about free market economy, as long as it doesn't discriminate against any luny kuffir who wants to play by shariah rules.

But spend a penny of public money for this? No way. Talk about your camel's nose: they have already admitted that a female lifeguard's swimming ability is hampered by a burquini. I believe that the drowning victim's safety should outweigh the muslimah's sensitivities. She can find another job if a mainstream bathing suit is a problem to her. Don't put swimmers at risk, especially given that she's already tipped her non-altruistic hand.

And, once this becomes accepted, how long do you think it will be before they start demanding of the IOC [spit] that all women Olympians must don the burquini in order to level the playing field? You know damned well the IOC of Munich [in]fam[y] would only too happily comply.

$170 bucks!

Being oppressed is expensive.

#65 Occasional Reader

Just a partial defense of us hetero guys; you've got us (generally) on the big boobs preference, but relatively few men prefer wafer-thin "pre-pubescent boy" bodies, like those of high fashion models.

Hear, hear! Down with Anorexia!

Isn't New Zealand an island?

Not enough beach for ye?

#122 WriterMom;

Burkhini shmurkini-hers look pretty real and fabulous

I agree, actually, she looks quite cute. Pity she's wearing a symbol of medieval oppression.

writermom

Don't they realize the burqini is irrelevant? Eros overcomes. Covering things tickles the imagination. What the mullahs conceal, the imagination supplies.

This has nothing to do with modesty. It has everything to do with power.

Hubba hubba! Obviously Zombietime will be getting a lot more attention from now on.

#117 saywhat? 1/11/2007 11:28AM PST

OT
. . .all the incentive I needed to stay the hell away from fast food and stick to my new years resolution. . .I was listening to Fox Cable news when they began reporting about this story:

Fast-food giants cater to Muslims

I read about this a couple of weeks back, about the same time the British papers were reporting anger from Christian parents of children whose school had been serving up undisclosed halal to everyone for a number of years.

I don't pay much attention to Paul, but as I recall his New Testament statement releasing Christians from Old Testament dietary restrictions covers everything except blood and meat sacrificed to other gods. Seems to me that since allah is absolutely not the same as G_d, that halal should be absolutely forbidden to Christians. No Kentucky Fried for me...

The Protocols of the Daily Kos...
AIPAC circumvents lobby reforms.

Sad to see Al Gore associated with this group (AIPAC - ed). I can't believe he supports any of their agenda anymore.

As for all the loop holes for non-profits...now is the time to let Congress know that our country's interests need to come first. The intimate association with Israel needs to be revised. The USA needs to become a fair broker in the Middle East, or we can be assured the continuing wars there will bankrupt our country. Kiss the middle class goodbye...

The Koskidz are all in favor of non-profit organizations, unless they're run by the Jooos.

#130 Occasional Reader

Well, when I was in the magic kingdom, this bag lady accousted me in the hallway, and insisted that I go into this room...

Ask Zombie, that's where it's from.

#16 Fjordman

It really is difficult to explain why more women than men convert to Islam, which is actually true.

Same reason why murderers in prison attract a lot of female fans.

Earth2moonbat, a NSFW warning would be good

131 THX-42 1/11/2007 11:33AM PST

Charles, you almost got it right:
Does this burqini make me look fatwa?

LMAO! perfect.

now i'm thinking of a commercial...

"I could really go for a Fatwa, today!"

WriterMom

Word on the street is that she stuffs.

OR,

But that's not what we're here to talk about.

I really, truly would have no problem with the "burquini", if it weren't for all the cultural baggage that comes along with it. This isn't just like seeing Amish women in their traditional garb and thinking, "well, not my bag, but whatever works for you"; it's a symptom of something much more troubling.

I ran into some Amish women when I was in Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry last summer. Personally I think those outfits that they have are a major turn-on. Conservative definitely, but the outfits I saw were colorful. They're nothing like the burka or assorted Islamic prison garb.

I was tempted to use my Amish pick up lines ("Are thee up for some plowing?") but I decided against it.

This has already happened in parts of the UK, where some local councils have instituted Muslim-only swimming hours:

But the nearby Croydon Mosque has defended the introduction of Muslim-only swimming sessions at the council pool.

A spokesman said: "Muslims are not allowed to show intimate parts of their body. This is non-negotiable. Muslims have as much right to go swimming as anyone else."

A spokesman for Croydon Council said: "We are keen to ensure sporting facilities in the borough are accessible to the whole community. "We appreciate that certain religious groups, such as Muslims, have strict rules on segregation for activities including sports, so in response to requests from the local community, we have been running these sessions at Thornton Heath Leisure Centre for the past year, with a women-only session on Saturday evening and a male-only session on Sunday evening. These have been successful and well attended.

"Croydon is not unique in offering such sessions to minority communities, many local authorities do the same. We are not giving preference to any one group but simply taking practical steps to create access to all."

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Once again we see the same pattern of behaviour from Muslims all over the world. A slow push for special treatment, all the while disguised as a call for equal treatment, until Muslims are established as a superior, a privileged, group. It's not just swimming pools, it's the banning of pork soup in France, it's American children being made to recite Islamic prayers while Christianity is banned from schools, it's Orianna Fallaci being prosecuted for criticising Islam in Italy. It's dhimmitude.

No more concessions to Islamic sensibilities. California girls, not Caliphate girls.

130 Occasional Reader

I think it's pron. In any case, I wish I had a dollar for every time it's been linked here.

I can tell she has breast! quick stone her before she starts a rape frenzy!

/death cult mentality off

#123 Cattt
Interesting.

#148 Dirk Diggler:

I was tempted to use my Amish pick up lines ("Are thee up for some plowing?")

I'd have gone with something about "helping me raise my barn", but to each his own.

Her FEET are showing! Isn't she up for a stoning now?

#149 Old Gobbo 1/11/2007 11:37AM PST

Once again we see the same pattern of behaviour from Muslims all over the world. A slow push for special treatment, all the while disguised as a call for equal treatment, until Muslims are established as a superior, a privileged, group. It's not just swimming pools, it's the banning of pork soup in France, it's American children being made to recite Islamic prayers while Christianity is banned from schools, it's Orianna Fallaci being prosecuted for criticising Islam in Italy. It's dhimmitude.

Thats what Ive been warning about. It will only get worse as they get bolder and a large deomgraphic.

the Lizard Grand Poobah

LOL! WriterMama, that's perfect.

#154 OR,

LOL.

126 taxfreekiller

I once believed the same thing but, I've come to believe that these women go along with their oppression, particularly in the West.

#131 THX-42

OMG.

WAY TOO FUNNY! BWAHAHAHAHAA!

Old Gobbo (#149)

Once again we see the same pattern of behaviour from Muslims all over the world. A slow push for special treatment, all the while disguised as a call for equal treatment, until Muslims are established as a superior, a privileged, group. It's not just swimming pools, it's the banning of pork soup in France, it's American children being made to recite Islamic prayers while Christianity is banned from schools, it's Orianna Fallaci being prosecuted for criticising Islam in Italy. It's dhimmitude.

Hammer meet nailhead. Exactly and very well put.

#159 MandyManners 1/11/2007 11:41AM PST

126 taxfreekiller

I once believed the same thing but, I've come to believe that these women go along with their oppression, particularly in the West.

They have to. They know Western culture and reject it. They are willing victims. Its like premptive Stockholm Syndrome.

#155 PalsyClown

Her FEET are showing! Isn't she up for a stoning now?

A foot fetishist would have a blast at a Muslimified beach.

Fat and Islamic?

Get a bike!

/uhn.. nevermind.

#149 Old Gobbo 1/11/2007 11:37AM PST
This has already happened in parts of the UK, where some local councils have instituted Muslim-only swimming hours:

Muslim only? That's different than having one night a week reserved for men/women only.

I'm sure they have test drove the biquini but how do they keep the cloth from clinging when wet? How do they keep the him of the top from floating up? What would happen if you jumped in the pool and it forced the top up?

Yes but what about the string burquini?

Mandy, that's really good.

did you say 'blast' on purpose?

#29 Alouette
Why are Muslims living in an infidel city like Christchurch? The name alone should be haraam to them. Same for Corpus Christi and any place beginning with "San" "Saint" and "Santa."

So if we rename it ChristKansas or Santa Kansas City will they stay the f**k out of my state? It's got my vote...

The cost effective solution for New Zealand is to let the muslims swim only at night.

How the hell do you swim in that?

The whole point of a swim suit is minimal fabric so that you can actually move through the water.

Say, is that 28-year-old bother who has love affair with horse aware of this?

Get a load of her aqeedah! And what an adab!

#135 loppyd

$170 bucks!
Being oppressed is expensive.

Jesus Christ! Thats a lotta money.

For $50 my wife bought a cute little 2-peice in the Victoria's Secret catalog...one pull of the string and it falls apart.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

I think a Burquini should be made with gin and vermouth...wrap up the olive in cheese cloth before you drop it in...L'Chaim!

Time for The Weight Watchers Burqa Association to chime in...

Read the beach blanket burqa testimonials...

Super Size My Burqa

#167 right wing zephyr

No, I didn't. I reckon I had a Freudian moment.

just for the record I think I was the first to typo burqini to burquini. Not that I want credit, just so that KSK, doesn't get thought of as an early afternoon drinker.

Perhaps they can just start filling bathtubs with Mecca Cola and swim in that.

#177, it was still good

FLOwers!

Nah, they'd get buubles in their Muezzins...

Lets give them their own planet--- ship em all to Mars. : )

Maximu§

Lucky you. :)

The bikini I bought at VS fell apart. The quality of their clothing isn't great.

I buy mine at surf shops now...

#11 savage_nation

Please, don't call anyone "cockroach" not even members of the ROP -- The Rwandan Hutu extremists called Tutsis "cockroaches" as they were exterminating them.

The nazi pigs called Jews "vermin", another word to avoid.

We're in the facing reality business, not the extermination business, although I admit that a nuclear Iran will probably give us no rational choice.

And lets not give the nutters a rope to hang us with.

Remember, the world is watching.

It doesn't cover enough of the face

#165 jooly 1/11/2007 11:44AM PST

#149 Old Gobbo 1/11/2007 11:37AM PST
This has already happened in parts of the UK, where some local councils have instituted Muslim-only swimming hours:

Muslim only? That's different than having one night a week reserved for men/women only.

I'm sure they have test drove the biquini but how do they keep the cloth from clinging when wet? How do they keep the him of the top from floating up? What would happen if you jumped in the pool and it forced the top up?

I wonder when we get to reinstate the 'whites' and 'coloreds' drinking fountains and restrooms again?

I heard Hamas just launched a swimsuit line for women.

The bikini I bought at VS fell apart. The quality of their clothing isn't great.

Tested to destruction? Will we be reading this in COnsumer Reports?

The burqini covers everything except hands and feet, and includes a hijood, named after the traditional Muslim hijab to cover the head.

~~~

This is definitely a sick world. Have they designed a baby burqini the baby slips can slip into immediately as it comes out of the mother's vagina? We wouldn't want any male doctor's oggling a female muslim newborn, it might offend Allah.

SICK MFers!

#183 loppyd

Lucky you. :)

The bikini I bought at VS fell apart.

Uhh...

“Ahiida” represent the following qualities;

Freedom – The freedom to choose to participate in any sporting activity. By providing suitable specialized sports wear, for the active Muslim female, that will give her the freedom to choose in either starting or to continue in any sporting activities and keeping active

Riiight.

#89 NoSubmission

"Hey! Get outta my sun!"

A more widely used phrase is "get outta my son."

but but but... her hands and feet are exposed... I must rape her!...I have no self control! It is my right as a holy Muslim man to rape her.

/Australia’s controversial mufti Sheik and friends

#184 mardukhai 1/11/2007 11:51AM PST

#11 savage_nation

Please, don't call anyone "cockroach" not even members of the ROP -- The Rwandan Hutu extremists called Tutsis "cockroaches" as they were exterminating them.

The nazi pigs called Jews "vermin", another word to avoid.

We're in the facing reality business, not the extermination business, although I admit that a nuclear Iran will probably give us no rational choice.

And lets not give the nutters a rope to hang us with.

Remember, the world is watching.

There is always a rational choice. Its kill or be killed. Islam started the war, only one side can win.

Wow! Add a pair of standard issue combat boots and I'm hooked. What a babe.

#139 godfrey

Of course it has to do with power. It has to do with warped ideas of sexuality and control, that Muslims are unwilling to face. Like the 9/11 highjackers who drank themselves silly watching strippers before their 'glorious' act to Allah. Like having relations with young boys-whether they want it or not. And, like considering non-Muslim women "meat" ready for attack (see Malmo, etc..) and like splicing women's genitals (see Islamic world). Never mind the idea of the raisins waiting for them if they kill enough Jooos and Infidels.

It's all STAN's work.

#183 loppyd

Lucky Me?

My little Vixin opened up a credit account with VS! You don't want to see the monthly bill that rolls in.

Ah well, whatever it takes to keep you girls happy. Actually, I like to buy my sandels and shorts at surf-shops also.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

#183 loppyd

Victoria Secret's lace-topped, thigh-high stockings are awesome. They don't slip down and they don't sag but, the elastic doesn't dig into the skin and leave an impression. And, the material is ultra-smooth.

Lets give them their own planet--- ship em all to Mars. : )

What do you have against Martians? Especially now that NASA may have killed some of them?

NATO says kills 150 insurgents in Afghanistan

Grammatical errors aside, that is very good news. But wait,

The Taliban rejected the NATO report as "baseless and false" and said no fighters had been killed. "Only civilians were targeted," a Taliban spokesman, Mohammad Hanif, said by telephone.

Why of course, civilians, in a convoy of donkeys carrying weapons & ammunition across a mountain pass from Pakistan in January. And kittens, too. Or maybe it was a wedding party.

Loppy you had a wardrobe malfunction? If I had been there I would have lent a hand...

...and then... after I rape her... her life will be forfeit and she must die in shame; buried up to her waist and stoned to death.

/Australia’s controversial mufti Sheik and friends

199 MandyManners

Victoria Secret's lace-topped, thigh-high stockings are awesome. They don't slip down and they don't sag but, the elastic doesn't dig into the skin and leave an impression. And, the material is ultra-smooth.

I find that hard to beleive. Could you offer some proof, post some pictures perhaps?

why cant these islamo-nazis build their own damn pools?

they war to be seperate, fine, build it yourself you fat, lazy bastards

#184 mardukhai

I agree. Comment #11, savage nation-I didn't see it before, but I think it's inappropriate. As much anger as anyone feels, these are still humans who are indoctrinating other humans in their descpicable death cult.

#200 Fjordman 1/11/2007 11:56AM PST

Lets give them their own planet--- ship em all to Mars. : )

What do you have against Martians? Especially now that NASA may have killed some of them?

I have two words to get us out of that mess:

Manifest destiny.

stay off our planes. Stay out of our grocery stores. And get the heck out of our pools.

/of course when our blood is not halal to you, we can talk

#202 Peacekeeper

How do you know a hand would have sufficed? I don't recall any female lizards revealing anything about their cup sizes...

199 MandyManners

I love VS thigh highs & other unmentionables...

It's their clothing line that sucks. IMHO.

I hereby declare this the "Victoria Secret's lace-topped, thigh-high stockings" thread. (hat tip: MandyManners)

Both hands, if necessary. No sacrifice too great.

Chyron (#186)

I wonder when we get to reinstate the 'whites' and 'coloreds' drinking fountains and restrooms again?

Exactly. There is a world of difference between "freedom to" and "freedom from." Freedom to wear whatever asinine garb you want in the water, as long as it doesn't endanger someone else, is fine. Freedom from having to share the water with men or non-co-religionists is not fine. When does the muslimah "lifeguard" decide to let a man drown because she cannot touch him or let him touch her during a rescue?

Once again, we wonder where the feminists are now. If it was not okay to exclude women from all aspects of public life (voting, police force, fire department, military...) it is not okay to exclude men, or non-muslims, or non-little-brown people from any aspect of public life. Of course, this flies in the face of the entire [il]liberal agenda.

I can still make out the shape of boobs in the photo- ergo, that burqini is hara'am.

OT

North Sea Gas Explosion Disaster watch!

Okay, so now Muslimas have apartheid pools. I'm almost afraid to ask, but why, since they are swimming only with each other, must they look like humanoid dolphins whilst swimming?

And Fjordman .. please do tell. What's with the higher rate of female conversion to the religion of the Flipper-Wear swimsuits? Any castration will only be virtual. :) The bathing suits alone are enough to convince me to stay away. It's hard enough finding something I love in a pretty 2 piece, never mind a burkini!

#210 Elric66

Calling humans these names is wrong. Period.

To comment #11, we can now add, in spades, #210.

Both should be deleted.

#214 Peacekeeper

You're a prince. Amazing what you will do for the cause.

PK

My hero. ;-)

I nominate Peacekeeper for most strikingly funny on this incredibly funny thread.

Mandy comes in second. It's a close second.

Flowers!

#218 Elric66
Buh-bye.

#219 WriterMom 1/11/2007 12:01PM PST

#210 Elric66

Calling humans these names is wrong. Period.

Sorry but when you dont display any sort of humanity, you kinda lose the status as human. Hell, just read their terror handbook and what they think of kaffirs. Screw them.

#218 Elric66

Listen-I like you and you post interesting stuff. But that kind of language attracts very serious scrutiny from Charles, and rightly so. It's bannable-so you should probably make a choice now if you want to continue using that kind of language-or risk being banned.

#210 Elric66

Members of death cults are not human. I do agree that we shouldnt call them cockrackes. Its an insult to the cockroaches around the world.

Just a word to the wise. Charles made it very clear a couple nights ago that he doesn't appreciate that kind of talk. You've flirting with the stick.

#224 Killgore Trout 1/11/2007 12:04PM PST

#218 Elric66
Buh-bye.

Bye bye. :-)

tax free killer-- you nearby?

That's right.

I know some men (maybe sexist), that would pay good money to force some Western women to wear outfits like that at public places.

Nothing quite as emetic as seeing a 300lb. woman in a bikini or a thong with layers of fat hiding other layers of fat.

If the women of Mo really do want to stay in shape, let the Infidel men treat them like "ladies", as in the rare art of chivalry.

Koran

#227 Earth2moonbat 1/11/2007 12:05PM PST

#210 Elric66

Members of death cults are not human. I do agree that we shouldnt call them cockrackes. Its an insult to the cockroaches around the world.

Just a word to the wise. Charles made it very clear a couple nights ago that he doesn't appreciate that kind of talk. You've flirting with the stick.

I am sorry that I think so lowly of jihadists. Must be a human failing.

E2M

DUDE... say something next time..

That pic is down right dangerous.

I'm at work! LOL

I wrote off just about everything from Victoria's Secret during my ongoing 10 year battle to get them to offer any decent bra in my size. I'm quite sure there's a reasonable market among Asian women who have had boob jobs. I, for the record, am/have had neither.

I only buy their thongs, now.

Mandy

How can I get to Allah if you keep making me think of lace-topped stockings? You are torturing me! This is an outrage! You must be stopped!

elric

Take a walk outside. Get some fresh air.

The best thing about the photo is the sappy Paris Hilton smirk on the model's face, as she poses in what looks like a space suit from a French Sci-fi movie.

Hiya WriterMom, did you get my Email okay?

This is the reason I've come to object strongly to the "Islam is not a relion" thing. Once you redefine religion to not include Islam it's a very short leap to redefine "human" to not include Muslims.
let's not go there.

Now I need a cold shower.

#225 Elric66

Jihadi's murdered my brother-in-law, so I believe I am qualified to speak on the subject. The terrorists who pulled the trigger were quite human and quite well versed in jihadi talk. The Islamonazis are human criminals as were their German heroes.

Humans making despicable choices.

Note to self.

Calling jihadists names is harem.

Got it

I only buy their thongs, now.

Oh, the womens! Will their torments never cease?!

And Fjordman .. please do tell. What's with the higher rate of female conversion to the religion of the Flipper-Wear swimsuits? Any castration will only be virtual. :)

In short: Islam means submission, and submission is simply sexually and mentally more attractive to women than it is to men. Western women spend their days trying to castrate their own men, and end up with someone they don't sexually desire. Feminism is rubbish, and is one of the primary causes of Western weakness.

Just a vote... If I have one...

Elric screwed up, he's confident in his beliefs and that is an admirable trait. I think he should be given a 2nd and 3rd chance. If he hasn't already had them.

OT

Who the hell is Beckham and why is the media having orgasms over him(her/it) coming to America?

Even more pressing question is why should I care?

#236 TalkinKamel

KAMEL KAMEL KAMEL

I have been meaning to e-mail you, I was thinking of you today. I have lots to catch you up on...especially things about WriterSon and school, and WriterDad's upcoming trip to LA...

I will write you a proper epistle tomorrow :)

If those women are feeling fat then why don't they do something like laugh in public. That is a sure way to lose about 8 pounds very quickly.

Wow, they're only about 120 years behind in bathing suit technology. That's pretty darn good considering they're about 1,000 years behind in everything else.

space suit from a French Sci-fi movie.

I have a pool. I am responsible for the relative safety of anyone in it.
I wouldn't let anybody swim in that.
Wade maybe.

It's bannable.

I agree. Nice word you've created, BTW.

Elric66: you're welcome to write whatever you like -- if you start your own blog. When you post comments like that, it causes trouble for me (fair or not) and I am not interested in taking the heat for things I don't say or believe.

Elric66

I'm getting really sick of you. You contribute nothing and sound like a Klansman.

204 Kenneth

8-D

#244 right wing zephyr 1/11/2007 12:08PM PST

Just a vote... If I have one...

Elric screwed up, he's confident in his beliefs and that is an admirable trait. I think he should be given a 2nd and 3rd chance. If he hasn't already had them.

I allready made the note to myself, no calling the jihadists names.

#245 Totally Sirius

He is a fantastic soccer player. You never saw the movie "Bend It Like Beckham"? He also married Posh Spice. Major tabloid fodder in the UK. But other than the flash-he's a super athlete.

223
No ass kissing! It's bannanable!

#252 Cattt 1/11/2007 12:10PM PST

Elric66

I'm getting really sick of you. You contribute nothing and sound like a Klansman.

Note to self. Calling others Klansmen is ok. Got it. Allready got called a Nazi I guess thats a step up. :-)

I've been to the Middle East, there are lots of fat ugly Muslim women; it must be due to their lack of swimming pool facilities.

#212 loppyd

True. I just buy the slinky things from VS.

Banannable

#254 Elric66:

no calling the jihadists names.

If that's the lesson you've derived here, it's probably no use trying to explain why you're wrong.

Anyway.

Let's all get back to the lace-topped stocking/frilly see-through teddy talk. Now, where were we?

#243 fjordman

Hi there-can I recommend an excellent writer to you. Check out Barbara Kay's columns in the National Post. She simply tears feminism new ones in most of her colums. She's wonderful.

#234 Mommydoc

I only buy their thongs, now.

Nice one, I just sprayed taco salad all over my keyboard.

Looks like those people in the episode of the original Star Trek,Kirk was kidnapped,where the whole planet was overpopulated with these Teletubbie look-alikes.

Islamotubbies?

veeshir

Not a bad point. Think of the progress they could make if they made sure to make those burqinis of a very lightweight fabric with nice drape. I recall seeing burqas that are more like transparent veils. A sign that the covering is token. That's progress, at least. A loosening of the psychosexual grip.

257 Elric66

I didn't call you a Klansman. I said you sound like one. Stop sounding like one, and I won't think you do.

#165 Jooly

Muslim only? That's different than having one night a week reserved for men/women only.

It's not just men/women only, though. It's men/women wearing Islamic-approved swimming costumes only. It's done at the behest of Muslims, and it is de facto Muslim only, in just the same manner that a naked-only swimming hour would in practice be restricted to nudists, even if it was phrased in more inclusive terms.

213 Occasional Reader

LOL! I should've seen that coming.

True. I just buy the slinky things from VS.

Don't they pinch?

#240 song and dance man!

You are well named, sir. Wonderful job :)!

LMAO!

I was thinking of a walk. But this is much more cathartic.

/banannable

Oh yeah! These freaking Muslims are going to take over the world with an abomination like the burqini.

The Musslemen ain't seen rage until they try to take away our women's bikinis and force them into a burqini.

#239 WriterMom

Humans making despicable choices.

And who need to face consequences for thier choices.

Just like the sympathy for Saddam was misplaced, so is sympathy for anyone who makes these kinds of choices. In a sense, you could say that they forfeit their right to certain claims of humanity, but the one aspect of humanity that they can't walk away from is accountability.

#223 right wing zephyr

@--->

#255 WM

OK its a soccer player.

That doesn't answer my question:"Why should I care?"

Is being a soccer hooligan mandatory?

Entrepreneurs, sensing opportunity, have moved quickly to fill the demand for oppressive women’s swimming garb:

That's great!

Anyone want to help my start up company?
'Stoning Rocks'...like 'Prayer Rocks' or 'Pet Rocks' only these rocks have nice little [bigoted word] sayings on them...just to help get your fatwah on.

Why am I repulsed by that picture? Those creepy, dead eyes I guess.

It reminds of that old joke, under a picture of, I dunno say, this chick, "Somebody, somewhere is sick of her sh*t".

Although Melissa is smokin'hot. The complete opposite of the hag in a (bikini) bag.

Oh, the feet, the feet!

Is it just me, or does the lady in the pic at the top of the thread bare a resembalance to Squidward?

#258 WarBicycle

Impossible. How can there be FAT MUSLIMAS when they don't get enough food because of the NASTY JOOOISH OCCUPAYSHUN?

@right wing zephyr

Actually I first typed bourquini before I realized that this would sound too French and if there's something the French do well it's racy underwear.

#266 Cattt 1/11/2007 12:13PM PST

257 Elric66

I didn't call you a Klansman. I said you sound like one. Stop sounding like one, and I won't think you do.