world war 3 is just around the corner

Condi, they want you in a burka!

I'm not worried, Nancy Pelosi has got this handled.

It should be made perfectly clear that our relations with SA are strictly business. Their x-change students should stay home.

Nuts!

So is supposed to increase Saudi lying in support of Iraq 1 billion percent, amazing.

Mushroom cloud(s), coming soon.

Back to the old realism? Oil is under $50/barrel. Their spigots are up at least 3M bpd. Cheap oil is bad for Iran and bad for Hugo.

Bad part is Israel always pays a heavier price.

The Saudis are trying to strengthen Fatah, because Hamas is in bed with Iran. This isn't about Israel or Palestine, it's about WWIV, the war of the sunni axis and the shia axis, which is about to break loose in 5, 4, 3...

MSM's Word for the Day: Siege

College students flee a system under siege
[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

e2m,

War already started. We're just too polite to notice it.

This week, Saudi officials raised the issue in meetings with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during her visit to Riyadh. And last week, the Saudi ambassador in Washington, Prince Turki al-Faisal, pushed the matter in a meeting with leaders of the left-wing group Americans for Peace Now. Near the end of last year, the Saudis also conveyed their message to Vice President Dick Cheney and to senators who visited the region.

Check out all those names.

What do all these names have in common?

(1) Condi Rice
(2) Americans for Peace Now
(3) Dick Cheney
(4) Mystery Senators

Slaves and Dhimmis of their Saudi overlords. Not a one can be trusted on anything except the sell out of America.

If you are Jewish and living in Israel right now take it from this American...we are both so screwed. Prepare to be thrown off the cliff to appease our 7th century "friends".

In addition to attempting to line up Israeli and American support, Saudi leaders have been assuring the Palestinians that they would have wide Arab support for a final deal solution with for Israel, diplomatic sources said.

Can't believe the editors missed that one.

Wahabis funding Wahabis, Salafists, Jihadists, Takfirists...the numbers just keep growing. Even CNN had an article today about the number of radical Muslims in Britain. The article mentioned that a June 2006 poll for the Times of London indicated that 13% of Britain's estimated 1.3 million Muslims consider the July 7 London subway bombers to be martyrs. My calculator says that is 208,000 Jihadis in Britain!

Meanwhile, the Saudis are focusing their effort on convincing Hamas to accept the international community’s requirements that the militant group recognize Israel, renounce terrorism and accept previous agreements signed with Israel.

The deal is DOA. Back to sleep...

Well, now we know what the Saudis and the Lefties mean when they say "Peace": The total destruction of Israel.

OT: Judge Head has his on straight.

Officer facing court-martial denounces war
[Link: www.latimes.com...]

The nation's first Army officer to refuse deployment to Iraq urged the public in a statement Wednesday to "stop the war so that the death and sacrifices of American soldiers will not be in vain" after a major legal setback in his court-martial proceedings.

First Lt. Ehren Watada, who is based at Ft. Lewis near Seattle, faces six years in prison for failing to deploy to Iraq last year with his Stryker brigade and for criticizing President Bush and the war in statements to the media and at a peace convention.

The 28-year-old Honolulu native has argued that the war is illegal because Bush did not obtain proper authorization for it, and that Army rules and the Nuremberg principles adopted after World War II required Watada to disobey orders to participate.

On Tuesday, however, Lt. Col. John M. Head, the military judge in the case, rejected Watada's request to debate the legality of the war at his court-martial next month. Although Watada's attorney, Eric Seitz, had sought to open the question so the soldier could explain why he defied his deployment orders, Head ruled that the war's legality was a political question irrelevant to the charges at hand.

Head also rejected motions to dismiss charges of "conduct unbecoming an officer" related to Watada's criticism of Bush and the war.

Looks like our leaders have been bought off and whom do we turn to?

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

The plan calls for full recognition of the State of Israel and normalization with all Arab countries in return for an Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 border with slight border changes.

When Riyadh freezes over.

Until they allow me to enter S.A. with my Bible, and my Jewish Neighbor to enter with his Torah, there is no reason to give those corrupt despots anything more than the TRILLIONS of dollars that we have given them already for a product that we developed.

#15 Earth2moonbat,

I'm not so sure .. that's what they're saying in English .. what are they saying in Arabic?

The version adopted by the Arab League also called for solving the Palestinian refugee problem based on United Nations Resolution 194, a resolution that Israel vehemently opposes, on the grounds that it would open the door to millions of Palestinians settling in Israel proper. Then-prime minister Ariel Sharon was dismissive of the Saudi initiative when it was first unveiled. But Olmert, in a November 27, 2006, speech, gave the first public sign that Israel’s view was shifting.

Oh, shit. Lose Olmert. Now.

peace, a temporary absence of war

WHILE EVERYONE RELOADS

Ah yes, the Saudis... Let me see... They worship a mass murdering thug with sexual tastes that make Michael Jackson look like Pat Boone... and we're listening to them because of what exactly?

Following Olmert’s statement, Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni also raised the possibility of turning to the plan as a basis for moving forward. All Israeli officials stressed the need to make changes in the plan, mainly on issues relating to Palestinian refugees’ right of return.

Uhhh...Did we learn anything from the retreat from Gaza?

#13 rabidsquirrel,

Hoping you've had yet another smoke free day.

world war 3 is just around the corner

The Saudis are trying to strengthen Fatah, because Hamas is in bed with Iran. This isn't about Israel or Palestine, it's about WWIV, the war of the sunni axis and the shia axis, which is about to break loose in 5, 4, 3...

I truly hope both of you are right and WWW3 does start. I'm getting sick of the waiting.

Night all.

Charles wrote: The Saudis have been the main supporters of the Palestinian terror war against Israel, from its start. To treat them as honest “peace brokers” is some kind of nightmarish joke.

~~~

And look at the BBC Dospatch Uncover Reporter story...funding of these mosques and imams are done by whom? The Saudi. They are the true Puppet masters...Bush & Co. better wake up soon. Stop playing the oil game. WE have the technology, now all we need is the will.

...a quick Israeli return to the 1967 borders...

Would that be the borders before the first day, or after the sixth day? I'm just sayin.'

I wonder why they don't call them the 1948 borders? It would be more honest.

The Liberals are busy dismantling our will.

Liberals, Proudly Destroying American Within For Over Forty Years

In American foreign policy we stabbed our friends(Taiwan, Israel, Shah of Iran, King of Cambodia prior to Khmer Rouge) in the back on various occassions and placated our enemies(PLO, Sandinistas, gov. of Iran and now the Left wants us to placate the insurgency by pulling out.). Hence this is nothing new.

They will cry "Peace! Peace!", but there will be none.

Destruction will come upon them swiftly.

1Th 5:3 - Show Context

~Norsk Troll

#1 pegcity 1/18/2007 08:39PM PST

world war 3 is just around the corner

***Norsk Troll settles in with some popcorn***

#28

I'm not so much sick of waiting so much as I'm afraid waiting does us no good and helps them, because of the aging of Western society. We're going to have to develop some serious weaponry if we're going to have a Western society of 40 year olds fight a Muslim society of 20 year olds.

I think its all part of the plan to counter Iran. We concede A, B, and C to SA so they'll increases oil production and thus squeeze Iran into economic turmoil. Politics is ugly business. All you can hope is that your team is playing chess, not checkers.

So. how many still give BushCheneyRove Inc. the benefit of doubt in this epic war? I do. Only because I doubt anyone else could have done better in this mess and if you asked me who I'd rather have sitting in the oval office tonite, I don't know how I'd answer.

My best suggestion would be to make VDH the UN ambassador now that Bolton is gone. Please?

#27 Daisy:

Hoping you've had yet another smoke free day.

Yes I did. And thank you for remembering.

67 borders isn't peace.. it's the front line they could never capture.. thats why Arabs want it.

OT
Redford lands left hook, criticizes Bush policy

[Link: www.hollywoodreporter.com...]

Robert Redford came out swinging at the 2007 Sundance Film Festival's opening news conference Thursday, attacking the Bush administration for its politics as strongly as he dismissed film buyers who want his fest to serve as a market.

"Anyone with a rational mind and a sense of decency is being positioned as a lefty by the extreme right," he said, responding to an attendee who asked whether he thought Sundance selections were politically oriented to the left. "I believe in the tenets of democracy, and when they get pushed, it pisses me off," he said.

Redford maintained that Sundance films always have been politically diverse but said that "in light of what's happened in the past six years, we haven't adhered to snuffing attempts from the administration. ... (Documentaries) have become more of a truth to power in an environment where lying is treated like a political asset."
"I'm left-handed," he joked. "I'm not a very moderate person."

Redford's remarks were in sharp contrast to his mild-mannered opening-day appearance last year, but politics are now very much on his mind. He was accompanied by festival director Geoffrey Gilmore and film director Brett Morgen as they introduced this year's opening-night film, Morgen's Vietnam War-era documentary "Chicago 10."

Redford was in town for only a day before heading off to work on "Lions for Lambs," which he will direct and star in as a professor with two students in the war in Afghanistan. The politically themed omnibus film, featuring Tom Cruise as a U.S. senator and Meryl Streep as an investigative journalist, is the first project for the new Cruise- and Paula Wagner-run United Artists.

/They're diverse, if that means Left, more Left and Moonbat Left.

Im worried that i will be alive to see the utter destruction of israel in my lifetime. Does anyone have a "bright news" story about that nation of battlers?

Time to revive this scheme from the 30's and 40's I reckon.

"Following the Evian Conference, the London-based Freeland League (founded in 1935) proposed the purchase of seven million acres in the East Kimberley region of Western Australia (encompassing the properties of Connor, Durack and Doherty) as a farming settlement for a potential 50 000 refugees from Nazism. The League envisaged that a vanguard party of 500 to 600 ‘pioneers’ would construct homes, a power station, irrigation works, etc, pending the arrival of the main body of colonists.

Dr Isaac Nachman Steinberg (1888–1957) was sent out from London in 1939 to investigate the scheme’s feasibility and to enlist governmental and communal endorsement. A skilled emissary, he stayed in Australia throughout the war and later wrote a book on his experience, Australia: The Unpromised Land. Steinberg won the support of churches, leading newspapers, many prominent political and public figures (including Western Australian Premier J C Willcock) and a number of Jewish leaders.

The project came to nothing in the end, however, primarily because of concerns that the settlers would drift inevitably and in large numbers to the cities. Forty-seven per cent of the public opposed the scheme in a 1944 opinion poll and, in July of that year, Prime Minister Curtin formally rejected the proposal. Curtin’s decision had bipartisan political support."

What a missed opportunity for both Australia and the Jewish people.

The details are on this website about half way down the page.

[Link: www.naa.gov.au...]

A Prayer for Israel - Psalm 83

Psalm 83
A song. A psalm of Asaph.

O God, do not keep silent;
be not quiet, O God, be not still.
See how your enemies are astir,
how your foes rear their heads.

With cunning they conspire against your people;
they plot against those you cherish.
"Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation,
that the name of Israel be remembered no more."

With one mind they plot together;
they form an alliance against you-
the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites,
of Moab and the Hagrites,
Gebal, Ammon and Amalek,
Philistia, with the people of Tyre.
Even Assyria has joined them
to lend strength to the descendants of Lot.

Do to them as you did to Midian,
as you did to Sisera and Jabin at the river Kishon,
who perished at Endor
and became like refuse on the ground.

Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb,
all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna,
who said, "Let us take possession
of the pasturelands of God."

Make them like tumbleweed, O my God,
like chaff before the wind.
As fire consumes the forest
or a flame sets the mountains ablaze,
so pursue them with your tempest
and terrify them with your storm.

Cover their faces with shame
so that men will seek your name, O LORD.

May they ever be ashamed and dismayed;
may they perish in disgrace.

Let them know that you, whose name is the LORD—
that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.

It infuriates me no end that the Bush family, oilmen all, cozy up to the Saudis.

This relationship has compromised our fight against (radical?) islam from day one.

Many things have compromised our response, but certainly the kissy-poo between the oilmen and the saudis has been a big part of it.

And how can the Bush administration realy get the American people's support and loyalty, compromised as the administration is? We are not all stupid & even if some of us cannot articulate it, we feel it, and are not inspired by our 'leaders'.

Of course, the democrats take advantage of this weakness too.

And I guess we are still not in the dire straits usually necessary to call forth a real leader.

Good night all, will check back in the AM.

#35 EtNorskTroll
I know It has to happen and there is no stopping it but ...is there butter for that popcorn?

Let's give the Saudis what they've been giving their enemies for so long. A slow, painful death.

Scripture is being played out to perfection before our very eyes!

I hope and pray that all who will, get things right, with Him!

What about the status of the X? Is that still on the table?

And what of Iran's plans to launch an amphibious attack on Israel?

Condi must address these issues.

#41 thefrollikingmole

Im worried that i will be alive to see the utter destruction of israel in my lifetime. Does anyone have a "bright news" story about that nation of battlers?

It has been written for over 5000 years, that things will look very bleak for Israel in the end times.

It has also been written that Israel will survive!

Hey, I'm just reporting, if anyone doesn't like it, they'll have to take it up with the Creator!

#39 BingoBunny

67 borders isn't peace.. it's the front line they could never capture.. thats why Arabs want it.

This will be ignored as was the Saudi Peace Plan from a few years ago. Israel will balk at it. Still when Israel gives concessions, it just emboldens attacks against them.

#32 Ginn 1/18/2007 09:07PM PST
The Liberals are busy dismantling our will.

Liberals, Proudly Destroying American Within For Over Forty Years

~~~

BS. The Bush family has been licking Saudi ass for 40 years!

Israel to Use 'Code' to Prevent 9/11 Attacks
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

The "Code Positive" system uses a credit-card-sized device personally and exclusively issued to pilots that will enable them to identify themselves and assure security officials that they are in full control of their aircraft, according to Danny Shenar, who heads security at Israel's Transportation Ministry.

"Using this card, it will be possible to verify that the person flying the aircraft is indeed the person qualified to fly it," Shenar told Israel's Army Radio, according to Reuters.

"This system was developed to prevent aviation mega-terror over Israel, in the form of a plane coming through one of the borders and crashing into a target in Israel," he said. "The system should be operational by the end of the year."

Shenar added that it would be impossible for a hijacker to force a pilot to hand over identifying details, or otherwise pose as a legitimate member of the flight crew. "You can't bluff this system," he said.

An Israeli security official told Reuters that a deadline would be set for all airlines that travel to Israel to ensure their pilots had Code Positive.

"If they don't, their planes will not be allowed into our air space, and we will respond accordingly to any planes that don't turn back in time," the official said, referring to Israeli regulations allowing suspected enemy aircraft to be fired upon.

So. how many still give BushCheneyRove Inc. the benefit of doubt in this epic war? I do. Only because I doubt anyone else could have done better in this mess and if you asked me who I'd rather have sitting in the oval office tonite, I don't know how I'd answer.

You call the Saudis out. Tell them if they want to keep their oil fields then they better play by our rules. If not the oil fields fall to AmericaTM. If they scream about the injustice I point them to the 1,000s of dead Americans who lost their lives on 9-11. Then if the UN screams I point them to the 100,000s of dead around the world caused by Saudi Arabian money.

Life is a bitch. If we are the super power we claim to be...act like it. Most Americans would have agreed if Bush showed real leadership after 9-11. Alas he did not.

When are people going to hold those accountable for our dead! I guess oil prices are all that matter anymore. Those dead Americans are worth that. The Saudia Arabians are the reason we are in the mess. They have not been held to account. They are ones who are funding the Sunni in the Anbar province. They are the ones who funded the jihadi wars in Sudan and East Africa. They are the ones who are funding the majority of mosques in America and the west in general. They are the ones who wish to bring the 7th century back to life. Yes they are the ones who funded 9-11. Yet Bush does nothing. What does that tell you?

Makes me sick.

#53
I wonder, too.

#47
Xenophobic

#53 savage

Votes and power

#53 savage_nation

What do the libs gain by destroying this country?

Are you kidding me savage? You can't build a Socialist utopia when you have free market capitalism standing in your way.

Charles

is some kind of nightmarish joke.

Welcome to Jewish existence.

/Personal mad ranting and ravings on

Get rid of the combustion engine, and develop a different kind of cheap running machine. Forget about those stupid gas fuel thingabobs. No combustion engine, no Saudi oil. Surely, by now someone must have invented a different kind of energy source. Just image, causal like mentioning to the Saudis, 'we no longer need oil'. End of lot of problems. My daydream, ah, and it feels so good to think about the effects on the mid-east. ROFL.

/Personal ranting and rantings off

Not taking responsibility for speelling erors.

#53 savage_nation 1/18/2007 09:28PM PST

What do the libs gain by destroying this country? I've wondered about that for a very long time.

We are the major roadblock on the LLL's road to utopia, get rid of the US and the way to a better life lies open for all. (Didn't you get the memo?)

#53 savage_nation

What do the libs gain by destroying this country? I've wondered about that for a very long time.

One word,

power

#55 cbinflux
#47
Xenophobic

It's amazing how a people can simultaneously be the world's most insecure people AND the most arrogant. Or maybe not so amazing.

/not a shrink

#62 Da_Beerfreak

(Didn't you get the memo?)

*looks frantically around desk*
Damn! I didn't get it either!

Well kiddies, it's snowing here, which means I'll have to get up early to shovel, clean the car off, and sit in nightmarish traffic because no one remembers how to drive in snow.

blech

G'night!

56 savage_nation 1/18/2007 09:32PM PST

It makes it loud and clear that King Abdullah or whoever is in charge in the KSA is the puppetmaster and George W. Bush is dancing at the end of the strings

.

Long live the King of the Saudis!

May he be most merciful to American dhimmis. Its good to know Pasha Georgie is leading us good dhimmis into the light of Allah and his prophet (peace be upon him) and our rightful place as his noble slaves.

:)

Lincoln is turning in his grave..

To treat the Saudi-pensioned State Department as honest brokers is a joke.

Brand new animation, Condi Brown.

Throw those who'd dhimmify and murder us MORE concessions, Condi. Enjoy your life in this world because your perfidious soul won't enjoy the next.

#62 Da_Beerfreak 1/18/2007 09:37PM PST

#53 savage_nation 1/18/2007 09:28PM PST

What do the libs gain by destroying this country? I've wondered about that for a very long time.

We are the major roadblock on the LLL's road to utopia, get rid of the US and the way to a better life lies open for all. (Didn't you get the memo?)

The Democrats want the U.S. to lose in Iraq. If we lose in Iraq the Democrats get more power. That's their only motivation.

So where is the vaunted Jewish lobby on this? That's right, they could not lobby themselves through wet toilet paper if their lives depended on it.

Dubya, wipe the oily Saudi smegma off your lip. It's unbecoming.

#44 ASD 1/18/2007 09:19PM PST

#35 EtNorskTroll
I know It has to happen and there is no stopping it but ...is there butter for that popcorn?

Yep!

That...and Garlic salt, too!

Tell ya' what, ASD: Accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour and I'll save you a place at the dinner table in His Kingdom. We'll have all the popcorn one could eat!
You're gonna die anyway, right? Might as well be with the King afterwards...He's quite a funny Person. Very loving, too.

Just a thought...

~Norsk Troll

'We in America understand teh beneovlence that lies at the heart of Islam.'

-Condo-fucking-leeza

An MD-10 cargo jet equipped with Northrop Grumman's Guardian anti-missile system took off from Los Angeles International Airport on a commercial flight Tuesday, the company said.

The FedEx flight marked the start of operational testing and evaluation of the laser system designed to defend against shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles during takeoffs and landings.

Adapted from military technology, Guardian is designed to detect a missile launch and then direct a laser to the seeker system on the head of the missile and disrupt its guidance signals. The laser is not visible and is eye-safe, the company said.

"For the first time, we will be able to collect valuable logistics data while operating Guardian on aircraft in routine commercial service," said Robert L. DelBoca, vice president and general manager of Northrop Grumman's Defensive Systems Division.

#75 savage_nation
the coup starts with levelling Foggy Bottom and lynching everyone at State who appeases the ROP.

#70 RTLM 1/18/2007 09:44PM PST

#62 Da_Beerfreak 1/18/2007 09:37PM PST
#53 savage_nation 1/18/2007 09:28PM PST

What do the libs gain by destroying this country? I've wondered about that for a very long time.

We are the major roadblock on the LLL's road to utopia, get rid of the US and the way to a better life lies open for all. (Didn't you get the memo?)

The Democrats want the U.S. to lose in Iraq. If we lose in Iraq the Democrats get more power. That's their only motivation.

But what do they want all that power for?
So they can build their utopia. After all the rest of us are too dumb to know what is really good for us.

75 savage_nation 1/18/2007 09:47PM PST

I think it's time for a palace coup by the Joint Chiefs of Staff

No way...all the good ones have been purged already. Its called early retirement or Alaska.

Man Holed Up in Home After Tax Verdict

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

A man who holed up in his house with armed supporters while being tried on tax evasion charges was convicted Thursday, along with his wife, of failing to pay federal income taxes for a decade.

Ed Brown has said he will defend himself against capture if necessary.

U.S. Marshal Stephen Monier said Thursday that members of his staff continued talking by telephone with Brown and had no plans to confront him. Brown said he expected federal agents to swarm his property soon.

"Live free or die," he said in a telephone interview, quoting New Hampshire's motto. "What else can I say?"

/Good luck with that...

#51 cbinflux 1/18/2007 09:27PM PST

Israel to Use 'Code' to Prevent 9/11 Attacks
[Link: [Link: www.newsmax.com...]...]

lets hope they share this technology with us, we need this and more to protect ourselves.

As for the saudis, I say make them pay, surely there are ways we can put the squeeze on them? It can not be for oil, but I have no idea what other reasons there would be that we "bow" to them when we should be kicking a**

#12 kepler2007 1/18/2007 08:49PM PST

Check out all those names.

What do all these names have in common?

(1) Condi Rice
(2) Americans for Peace Now
(3) Dick Cheney
(4) Mystery Senators

Slaves and Dhimmis of their Saudi overlords. Not a one can be trusted on anything except the sell out of America.

If you are Jewish and living in Israel right now take it from this American...we are both so screwed. Prepare to be thrown off the cliff to appease our 7th century "friends".

Great comment! But it is ConDHIMMI Rice, ok? ;-)

-- gunjam

#76 cbinflux

Got a link to that?

This looks like a pretty interesting movie.

[Link: www.foxsearchlight.com...]

Navigate through the timeline...I almost forgot about the raid at Entebbe.

#84 gunjam

#12 kepler2007 1/18/2007 08:49PM PST

Check out all those names.

What do all these names have in common?

(1) Condi Rice
(2) Americans for Peace Now
(3) Dick Cheney
(4) Mystery Senators

Slaves and Dhimmis of their Saudi overlords. Not a one can be trusted on anything except the sell out of America.

If you are Jewish and living in Israel right now take it from this American...we are both so screwed. Prepare to be thrown off the cliff to appease our 7th century "friends".

Great comment! But it is ConDHIMMI Rice, ok? ;-)

-- gunjam

People don't learn from history. War with Iran scares the crap out of me, but we might have to do it. Frankly the Bush admin. should have been broadcasting into Iran via the VOA pushing for a coup. Khomeini did a similar thing and he took over without firing a shot. The same thing could happen here. No need for war and the key to winning the war against Islamic fascism really is Iran and not Iraq.

#86 savage_nation

Truck 'em easy, brother. Greasy side down, shiny side up.

#81 cbinflux 1/18/2007 09:55PM PST

Brown said he expected federal agents to swarm his property soon.

It's probably not his property anymore...expect eviction soon.

Great post, Charles. I, personally speaking, have HAD IT with "our friends, the Saudis!"

I have linked to this post here.

#91 gunjam

Great post, Charles. I, personally speaking, have HAD IT with "our friends, the Saudis!"

I have linked to this post here.

I'm sick of the Saudis too. We deal with them as we need their oil. That is why there have been proposals as to figure out how to end our dependency on their oil and then say good-bye to them.

I once proposed ethanol, but that may be too costly to transport.

#88 Aegius 1/18/2007 10:04PM PST

People don't learn from history. War with Iran scares the crap out of me, but we might have to do it. Frankly the Bush admin. should have been broadcasting into Iran via the VOA pushing for a coup. Khomeini did a similar thing and he took over without firing a shot. The same thing could happen here. No need for war and the key to winning the war against Islamic fascism really is Iran and not Iraq.

Well said. Well said! -- gunjam

Did anyone listen to the last hour on Michael Savage tonight as this subject was covered and talked about at length. I missed who Savage interviewed, but my guess is it was the author of the article.

#2 pat 1/18/2007 08:40PM PST

Condi, they want you in a burka!

Uh... it seems she is ALREADY in a burkha -- a burkha over her cerebral processes. The woman seemingly cannot think a thought independent of the State Department Arabists.

It is as though she is an automaton.

Truly disgusting waste of an otherwise brilliant intellect.

-- gunjam

Minnesota Muslim taxi drivers could face crackdown

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

/No, seriously, we mean it this time!

#95 hepcat 1/18/2007 10:10PM PST

Did anyone listen to the last hour on Michael Savage tonight as this subject was covered and talked about at length. I missed who Savage interviewed, but my guess is it was the author of the article.

No, unfortunately, I missed his final hour. But i heard part of hours one and two.

He was ON FIRE.

Savage is a NATIONAL TREASURE!

-- gunjam

And last week, the Saudi ambassador in Washington, Prince Turki al-Faisal, pushed the matter in a meeting with leaders of the left-wing group Americans for Peace Now.

More Jimmucidal maniacs.

82 savage_nation 1/18/2007 09:55PM PST

#80 kepler2007

Aw crap!

Its called Bushites..

The followers of an insane cult within the Republican party. They worshop all and everything related to his highness Pasha George W. Bush. Nothing Bush can do is wrong and anyone who questions his lordship is called "A Bad American". A good Bushite is called a "Good American". Also anyone who says the problem is with Islam itself is called a "Islamophobe".

The only good thing is I have yet to be called a liberal. At least I can still hold my head high...however I have been called all the others even after I cited great quotes from Teddy Roosevelt about being critical of the president is the most patriotic thing an American can do when deserved. The Bushites then called Teddy disloyal and a bad American. Jeeze!

No wonder he left the Republican Party!

All right, enought of this. I think the question we all need to be asking is: Whrere the hell is the supertanker thread?

Charles, you got some 'splainin' to do...

These boots are made for walkin'
So that's just what I'll do.
These boots are made for walkin'
And I'm gonna walk all over Jews

#101 Me

PIMF: Pretty sure I meant 'enough' not 'enought'.

I blame the bourbon.

#101 Me again:

Also, not sure about 'Whrere '. Think I might have meant 'where'.

Iron Fist rule obviously not in effect tonight.

#98 gunjam

On second thought, the interview was more on how the Saudis have influenced the State Dept. greatly and have a huge lobbying effort in place which is gaining support all over Washington DC.

I got left behind on the burkhini dead thread. Can I submit "Darwinian Bitchslaps O' Doom™" as a rotating title candidate?

#95 hepcat

I can't listen to Savage for long. He's an ARROGANT blowgut who is patently dishonest about his past.

Is the thread dead?

*gently nudges thread...no response*

Hellooo?

*gently shakes thread...again no response*

/reaches for defibrillator paddles...

#105 hepcat 1/18/2007 10:21PM PST

On second thought, the interview was more on how the Saudis have influenced the State Dept. greatly and have a huge lobbying effort in place which is gaining support all over Washington DC.

Okay... thank you... good to k now...

I guess that is above and beyond the nationwide web of saudi-financed, jihad-preaching wahhabist mosques, right?

nothing to see here... just move along.

-- gunjam

If the Saudis want peace they should make peace. The Pals have shown that they are unable or unwilling to make peace. If, has been suggested by pundits everywhere, making peace with Israel is extremely important to the "moderate" Arabs now then they should lead the way.

If the Saudis make peace then they can force the Pals to do so as well. I don't see the Pals moving first.

I won't be holding my breath.

#107 cbinflux 1/18/2007 10:24PM PST

I can't listen to Savage for long. He's an ARROGANT blowgut who is patently dishonest about his past.

The LORD knows Michael Savage is far from perfect, but his is a genius virtually unrivalled in the media today.

-- gunjam

Flying Pigs!
Jailed Cleric must pay £1m legal aid bill, judge orders
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Jailed Cleric must pay £1m legal aid bill, judge orders

* Accused of lying about his finances
* House will be sold to raise £300,000

Abu Hamza al-Masri, the preacher jailed last year for inciting murder, was ordered yesterday to pay his defence costs of more than £1 million.
The Islamic fundamentalist pleaded poverty, but a judge at the Old Bailey gave him only 21 days to pay the money after an action brought by the Legal Services Commission (LSC) to claw back funds granted to him in legal aid.

Lord Justice Hughes said that Abu Hamza may not be able to pay, but his judgment would allow the commission to seize his assets. Abu Hamza, 48, betrayed no emotion when the judge rejected his account of his financial circumstances as “inadequate and indeed false”.

[Link: images.thetimes.co.uk...]

#100 kepler2007

You're full of crap kepler!
I don't like everything Bush does, but I do think he's a decent person.

Am I a Bushite?

Is being a Bushite some kind of pejorative now?
Bush has made a lot of mistakes, but he has also done a lot of good things too. Need I remind you that we have NOT been attacked since 9/11?

Am I a Bushite?

Whatever Bush is, he's 100 times better than anything the Lefties have to offer! Would you have preferred Kerry?

Am I a Bushite?

You can take your "Bushite" crap and stick it up your ass!

#85 sihlus

Sorry, NewsMax.

#113 DesertSage:

You can take your "Bushite" crap and stick it up your ass!

At the very least 'Sage, give him the "Olbermann" treatment. You know you want to, and I haven't heard any Shakespeare quotes in a while...

84 gunjam 1/18/2007 09:59PM PST

Great comment! But it is ConDHIMMI Rice, ok? ;-)

No problem.. :)

As long as Bush is Pasha Bush or Pasha Georgie :)

88 Aegius 1/18/2007 10:04PM PST

People don't learn from history. War with Iran scares the crap out of me, but we might have to do it. Frankly the Bush admin. should have been broadcasting into Iran via the VOA pushing for a coup. Khomeini did a similar thing and he took over without firing a shot. The same thing could happen here. No need for war and the key to winning the war against Islamic fascism really is Iran and not Iraq.

I really wish it were that easy. I still think the best thing we can do is induce a civil war between Shia and Sunni. It will keep them busy with each other.

(1) Give us time to regroup and save the west from invasion.
(2) waste Jihadis that would be used against us non-muslims.
(3) Maybe it will reform Islam from within once they get tired of killing each other.
(4) Pulling out of Iraq gives us a free hand to deal with the Iranian nuclear program. As long as we stay we can't becuase we would lose Shia support. Lets kill Sadr (waste a few more) declare victory and get out.

The fact is we can't fix other countries problems until we can fix our own. Hell we can't even defend our own borders. What kind of war can we win if we can't even do that right. We need to get on a war footing for the long haul. Iraq is worth losing if it means winning the war against Islamic expansion. In the end it is only a small battle in a larger war. The first step is we have to name the enemy. Then how do we defeat the enemy. Bush has done neither. I view the enemy as Jihad and Sharia theology within Islam. I take a Robert Spencer view of things. I agree that this war does not even start until we get rid of the pc fear of naming names.

#107 cbinflux
I somewhat agree. But Savage is hot and cold , but when he interviews, he usually gets some real good people. Today was that day. And lately he's had Aaron Klein reporting from Israel, who is excellent.

19. Do you personally want the Iraq plan President Bush announced last week to succeed?
Yes No (Don’t know)
16-17 Jan 07 63% 22 15
Democrats 51% 34 15
Republicans 79% 11 10
Independents 63% 19 17

pdf

Until the US declares war on Saudi Arabia, the so-called war on terror will remain a joke. Saudi Arabia remains the major dessiminator and supporter of terrorism, from London to Los Angeles.
It's a shame that Bush just doesn't get it.

OT: Thought Mac users here would like this pic

[Link: www.innoq.com...]

/Is it too early in the week for a drinking thread?

#120 karmic_inquisitor:

/Is it too early in the week for a drinking thread?

I can definitively answer that question. The answer is no, it is most definitely not too early, either in the day, or the week.

I like easy questions.

A drinking alone thread?

Anybody. Bueller? Bueller?

#107
I agree with you.
Michael Savage, born Michael Weiner, is a Jew who never speaks about his origins. For this reason, he is beneath contempt.

Dry Run in L.A. (video)

CNN LOS ANGELES, California - The Los Angeles Joint Terrorism Task Force is investigating an incident involving an unidentified man who spilled a vial of mercury inside a subway station just before Christmas and then disappeared after reporting it to authorities.
A statement released by the task force Wednesday evening shows a picture of the man taken from a frame in a surveillance video. The caption reads: "Wanted for questioning in connection with unexplained activity."

The response time was 8 hours.

BREAKING NEWS...

Aide to al-Sadr Arrested

#124 RTLM:

The response time was 8 hours.

8 hours? For mercury?

Good to see they have their priorities straight.

**peeks at top of page. Shakes head**

Still no supertankers.

Listening to Johnny Cash..."Ragged Old Flag". Drinking bourbon. Not smoking.

Life, for the moment, is good.

#115 rabidsquirrel

LOL...if it keeps acting like an imbecile, then it will get the Shakespeare treatment.

And talking to myself. Can't forget that.

I was hoping for a beach with frost - been getting sub-freezing temps here lately in beach side OC

brrr dammit !

#129 DesertSage:

Hi Sage. Welcome back to the rabidsquirrel talks to himself thread. Alas, no supertankers tonight.

#131 RTLM

It was a lot warmer today. My oranges didn't freeze.

#131 RTLM:

I was hoping for a beach with frost - been getting sub-freezing temps here lately in beach side OC

brrr dammit !

Strange winter, it is. Here in Ohio we were just getting used to highs in the 50's when seasonal weather once again reared its ugly head.

Ohio is a funny place.

And rabidsquirrel, quit talking to yourself.

:')

113 DesertSage 1/18/2007 10:30PM PST

#100 kepler2007

You're full of crap kepler!
I don't like everything Bush does, but I do think he's a decent person.

Well good for him. Lots of decent people were not made to be president either.

Am I a Bushite?

Is being a Bushite some kind of pejorative now?
Bush has made a lot of mistakes, but he has also done a lot of good things too. Need I remind you that we have NOT been attacked since 9/11?

Well he should get a cookie!

Lets Review shall we...

(1) No Borders
(2) Port Deals with the enemy
(3) Osama and Friends still alive in Pakistan
(4) Nothing done about Pakistan aiding Osama and Taliban (and still doing it)
(5) Saudi Arabia funding Islamic expanson around the world and nothing done
(6) Bush allows 20,000 saudi students into country each year without vetting (fast tracking)
(7) Bush puts our troops in impossible situations with idiotic rules of engagement in Iraq. He does not allow our commanders to wage war as it was meant to be.
(8) Iranian Nuclear program
(9) North Korean Nuclear Program
(10) Slave trade continues in Sudan by Islamic madmen
(11) Puts pressure on Israel for stupid road map to no where
(12) gives money to Abbas and Fatah
(13) gives money to Islamic groups to overthrow Syrian government (Hello Georgie the group wants an Islamic government).
(14) Calls Islam a ROP
(15) Has sit downs with CAIR
(16) Does not name enemy
(17) Many more...

Am I a Bushite?

Whatever Bush is, he's 100 times better than anything the Lefties have to offer! Would you have preferred Kerry?

No argument from me. I am no democrate. Still there are things higher then GW. It called being American. Maybe he and you should figure that out. He is not a king. Also it would be nice to stop erecting the "Democrate straw man" for all this man's failures.

Am I a Bushite?

You can take your "Bushite" crap and stick it up your ass!

Notice the rage from the Bushite. No logic. No Plan. Just dam you!

#135 DesertSage:

And rabidsquirrel, quit talking to yourself.

You're just jealous cause the voices are talking to me :-)

Foriegn and Domestic enemies to boot. Here is our potential new president. Blocking the recording of his words: Let's here him talk more about government transparency.

Here more info on the Messiah.

#135
That's the bourbon talkin'.

#87 DesertSage 1/18/2007 10:03PM PST

This looks like a pretty interesting movie.

[Link: [Link: www.foxsearchlight.com...]...]

Navigate through the timeline...I almost forgot about the raid at Entebbe.

One of my vendors some years ago was a para who made the Entebbe trip.

#139 cbinflux:

That's the bourbon talkin'.

Nonsense. The bourbon talks in a distinctly evil voice. I was talking to the little gremlin on my shoulder. He's not evil, just "morally ambiguous".

Here is another stong source about Obama's moral values.

Here's what an averted terror attack looks like in Israel.
video - rated R

I guess it's about that time. The VIMH (voices in my head) and I need to be at work in about six hours, so I best be heading for bed.

'Nite all. Remember...it's Friday. At least one thing is right in the world.

141 rabidsquirrel

Awhile back I was 'under the whiskey bottle' (rye) myself and was unclear. My apologies. Have not met up with you since.

You LIke JCash?

Sunday Morning

#136 kepler2007

Well, it's back...so here goes-

Notice the rage from the Bushite. No logic. No Plan. Just dam you!

So I am a Bushite? And I build dams?

No rage her buddy. I just don't like being called names (yes, you're using Bushite as a pejorative) because I voted for someone and I want him to succeed.
You on the other hand want him to cut and run from Iraq so he can go and blow up Iran. I don't see things that way. I was a Marine, and once a Marine always a Marine. We started something in Iraq. No matter why we started it or who voted for it, we're there. As a Marine, I fight to the end...period! There can be only one victor...us! I don't care if we're there for ten years, I don't want to leave until that country is stable and can sustain itself...period! And that means if we have to kill every single son-of-a-bitch there and nobody's left to fight. At least it will be stable.
I don't give a flying fuck if the whole country says it's not worth it to stay there, I'll be the last motherfucker to condone leaving that Godforsaken place. If that makes me a Bushite, well then I guess I'm a Bushite. I could really give a shit less what you say. You're nothing but an irritating pimple to me.

I started listening to Michael Savage, locally, in 1996. I just don't like the all-outburst, all the time schtick. I'm a Lee Rodgers, Rush Limbaugh fan. I'm rather glad Savage/Weiner had his contract dispute with KSFO and is now on another station.

As for sub-$50 oil, it's a Jewish plot! Fucking Jews. Seriously, that cuts my Zionist World Hegemony fund dividend. I need to buy a custom corset for my girlfriend and that costs $. Oh well, I 'spose I could sell my Bar Mitzvah kiddush cup...

#146 DesertSage

There can be only one victor...us! I don't care if we're there for ten years, I don't want to leave until that country is stable and can sustain itself...period!

Yes Sir!

Geeze, seems like there are a few nattering nabobs of negativity hanging out here nowadays. I wonder what some of you would have said about Roosevelt and Churchill doing business with Stalin to defeat Hitler. How about the decision by Roosevelt, to focus our resources on the European Theater instead of the Pacific Theater? The Japanese attacked us after all, not the Germans.

Mumble, mumble, sigh

#146 DesertSage
#148 Scotch

There can be only one victor...us! I don't care if we're there for ten years, I don't want to leave until that country is stable and can sustain itself...period!

Yes Sir!

Amen

What part of "This will be a long war" did they not understand?

#149 Bordm

Election day was a watershed day of negativity. Made me sick and it has not really stopped since.

Yes. Mumble, mumble, sigh...agreed

#145 Scotch
You LIke JCash?

Sunday Morning

Didn't hear the "Smell of Someone Fryin' Chicken" in those lyrics. I guess if you sing it enough times it goes on its own.

Man In Black

#150 Bordm

Bet they all tune in to american idol though...

#152 RTLM

Ah Cool!

Ring Of Fire:))

Al Wanker, "At the most, she should be flogged."

/What's good for the goose will get the gander killed.

Well, g'nite all.

If Kepler comes back, I'm sure one of you will take care of it.
It has a list of complaints, but it has no solutions. It's just like a Democrate [sic].

All right. The sleep thing isn't working. I'm back.

Scotch: Personally, I prefer this...

One Piece at a Time...

'Nite 'Sage. The thread is in good - if slightly inebriated - hands.

What part of "This will be a long war" did they not understand?

But it doesn't have to be, we have the technology.

Over 1300 people on line. Speak up folks. I hate talking to myself. I'm not that interesting.

#159 Dan G:

But it doesn't have to be, we have the technology.

What is that supposed to mean?

/Don't say "nuke them"

#157 rabidsquirrel

One of my favorites!

Ohio? N, E, W or S?

#162 Scotch:

Ohio? N, E, W or S?

Southwest. Just south of Dayton.

#153 Scotch

Yeah, they have the patience to spend however many weeks watching some “reality” show or night time soap opera. But if a war is not concluded in a timely manner and to their satisfaction they want to cut and run. They want quick results for problems that have been going on for about a century or more. Make no mistake; we have reached the point in history where these issues must be resolved no matter the cost. I guess most of them never heard or read about the Hundred Years War, for example.

#164 Bordm:

Yeah, they have the patience to spend however many weeks watching some “reality” show or night time soap opera. But if a war is not concluded in a timely manner and to their satisfaction they want to cut and run. They want quick results for problems that have been going on for about a century or more. Make no mistake; we have reached the point in history where these issues must be resolved no matter the cost. I guess most of them never heard or read about the Hundred Years War, for example.

Actually, I'm surprised that they have enough patience to even wait a week between episodes of "24", or "American Idol", or whatever the hell America is watching these days. I swear, it seems that fully half of our adult populace is afflicted with ADD.

#163 rabidsquirrel

Got family scattered all over sw ohio. Lived in cambridge until I was ten.

Folsom

#166 Scotch:

Between yourself, RTLM and me, I think we could institute an unofficial late night "Man in Black" thread.

164 Bordm

They know the guy that invented the 100mg carb before 'standard oil' bought him out.

Bet they can tell you all you wanna know about hollywood scum too.

They can also spout every isolationist theory known to man in about one minute of a world political discussion.

#159 Dan G.

But it doesn't have to be, we have the technology.

I'm not sure if the Trojans used that line defending Troy, but I'm pretty sure the Spanish generals uttered it when they launched the Armada against England. If I remember correctly Maxim said his gun would make war unthinkable or some such nonsense. The point is technology is not some kind of end all solution. If it was easy, some one would have already solved the problems. :-)

#167 rabidsquirrel

'Cash' all around for my friends

Give My Love To Rose

Another personal favorite

#171 rabidsquirrel

Got that album:))

How 'bout this?

All right gentlemen. It's been real. But now I really have to go to bed. Need to be at work in a little over 5 hours.

Scotch, RTLM, others...have a good one. 'Nite to all my scaly friends.

#172 Scotch:

Perfect song to end the night on. Thanks for sharing some damn fine tunes, my friend.

Buenos Noches.

173 rabidsquirrel

Dang. It's two there.

Midnight here

Count sheep or something;))

#175 Scotch:

Dang. It's two there.

ummm, it's three here. 3:12.

MSM Word for the Day: Siege

Australian Muslims feel under siege
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

SIEGE MENTALITY

Like many migrants in Sydney, Muslims have grouped together for support, living in a handful of southwestern suburbs. One is nicknamed "Little Lebanon" due to the proliferation of Arabic signs and Muslim women shoppers in hijabs and scarfs.

But this limited interaction between a small community and the rest of Australia has seen them categorized simply as Muslims, no matter where they were born. No other ethnic group, such as Vietnamese or Greek, is grouped by religion.

/Uh, what about "The NATION of Islam"?

176 rabidsquirrel

Doh!

Don't count too many sheep then...

Hell to be hung over at work on Friday

#179 RTLM:

Hell to be hung over at work on Friday

All right. Two things are readily apparent:

1) I haven't yet gone to bed.
2) I've been drinking heavily.

In regard to the second, you've inspired me. As I make a living in consulting - and given the fact that I'm between contracts right now (AF client) - I may just work from home this morning. After all, I was planning on working on the new contract proposal anyway later this morning (and taking off tomorrow afternoon). Does it really matter if I do it from the office or from home?

#168 Scotch

They can also spout every isolationist theory known to man in about one minute of a world political discussion.

Yeah, isolationism has worked out so well for us in the past. Why look at all the good it did between 1914 and 1918, oh er that’s a bad example. How when we did not get involved in Europe’s problems oh say..like when Hitler sent the Condor squadrons to Spain until the Japanese dragged us in after Pearl Harbor, that sure proved something about isolationism didn’t it? Oh that’s another bad example. Let’s see, the Barbary Pirates? Nope! Surely isolationism has worked at least once in history. I just can’t seem to think of a single example, must be my lack of edumacation (sic) or my lack of ability to spot nuances in the historical geopolitical theories spouted by modern day Chamberlains and Quislings.

#180 PIMF:

(and taking off tomorrow this afternoon).

At this time of the morning, it's occasionally difficult to remember what day it is. Bourbon makes it even harder.

#179 RTLM

Hell to be hung over at work on Friday

I'd much rather Friday than Monday.

Canada sends more oil to the US than Saudi Arabia does. Can we start dictating US foreign policy too?

#181 Bordm

Agreed. Yup. Cannot add to that. But 'supposedly' smart people make those proposals every dang day.

/lives in lib land

Rabbid Squirrel

Waylon

Sorry you can't sleep.

/did some time at FFO

#184 Johnny 100 Pesos:

Canada sends more oil to the US than Saudi Arabia does. Can we start dictating US foreign policy too?

Not just yet. First, you have to start blowing shit up. Then, you have to "give" millions of dollars to our universities to establish "Nothern Studies" programs, hire former Foggy Bottom leeches as lobbyists, and fund Canadian centers of hate (mosque equivalents) in the US.

Our friends the Saudis, the main financiers of the global jihad,

Amen, Charles.

But to synthesize it even further, it all comes down to this:

Will the world chose,

1. Love and Light/the Divine, or

2. allah/satan?

The Divine will prevail. Period. And y'all can pontificate about strategy 'til the end of times but nothing will change it.

Love and the Divine are Check & Mate(ys).

#185 scotch:

Sorry you can't sleep.

Happens every time I quit smoking. #$#@#$# nicotine withdrawal is killing me.

Again.

#181 Bordm

nuances = loonylibland

/we are cavemen bordm! ;))

Nite all - resuming the quest to sell a treadmill and pair of dumbbells to every human being in EDT upon wakefulness.

Here's a heavy read from American Thinker:
Soft People, Hard People

There is an immutable truth of human nature: When soft people clash with hard people, the soft are vanquished. That is, unless they become hard. Every time an action designed to preserve western civilization is taken or even proposed, a great internecine battle ensues. We capture combatants on the battlefield and then spend millions in legal fees debating whether to adjudicate their cases in civil or military courts. We rightly scrutinize Imams making a scene at an airport and then spend millions more arguing about so-called "racial profiling." And it's incessant. Every act nowadays, from singling out illegals for deportation and the suspicious for scrutiny to getting swatted by "Tigger" to a six-year-old boy giving a girl a peck on the cheek, is met with hand-wringing and a disproportionate reaction. And far too often litigation results, costing us valuable resources. They are laughing. Why do you think the Mexican government distributed literature instructing its citizens on how to best violate our southern border? Why did Islamists issue advice on how to play the victim card in the American legal system? They don't tolerate such under their dominion, but they know about our lawsuits, protests, pandering politicians and capitulating clergy. They know the game. They know us. And they don't really think we're barbaric or unjust.

They think we're weak and stupid.

Overwhelming Greed
Eastern promise turns to western delight

[Link: news.search.yahoo.com...]

When UBS, the Swiss bank, sold $750m worth of Sharia-compliant bonds for Khazanah Nasional Berhad, the Malaysian government’s investment arm, it was assumed that Muslim investors had bought most of the bonds.

Not so. Non-Islamic investors also scrambled to purchase the issue, which was the largest convertible bond issued in Asia in 2006.

For no apparent reason, I give you...

weebl and bob

Radicals vs. moderates: British Muslims at crossroads
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

At a recent debate over the battle for Islamic ideals in England, a British-born Muslim stood before the crowd and said Prophet Mohammed's message to nonbelievers is: "I come to slaughter all of you."

"We are the Muslims," said Omar Brooks, an extremist also known as Abu Izzadeen. "We drink the blood of the enemy, and we can face them anywhere. That is Islam and that is jihad."
Anjem Choudary, the public face of Islamist extremism in Britain, added that Muslims have no choice but to take the fight to the West.

"What are Muslims supposed to do when they are being killed in the streets in Afghanistan and Baghdad and Palestine? Do they not have the same rights to defend themselves? In war, people die. People don't make love; they kill each other," he said. (Audio slide show: Preying on Britain's young Muslims)

But in the same debate, held on the prestigious grounds of Dublin's Trinity College in October, many people in the crowd objected.

"These people, ladies and gentleman, have a good look at them. They actually believe if you kill women and children, you will go to heaven," said one young Muslim who waved his finger at the radicals.

"This is not ideology. It's a mental illness."

#184 Johnny 100 Pesos

Canada sends more oil to the US than Saudi Arabia does. Can we start dictating US foreign policy too?

Nah, If the Canuks get too uppity, we'll just sent the kids from South Park to deal with you, again. ;-)

'Blowing people up is quite cool'
Young Muslims are easy prey, Qadir told CNN, because they believe the British government crackdown has scapegoated them because of their religious beliefs. The youth also can empathize with those who castigate the Bush administration.

There are some who believe "blowing people up is quite cool," Qadir said.

Qadir asked them why that was justified.

"The answers that I got back is: When a bomb goes off in Baghdad or in Afghanistan and innocent women and children are killed over there, who cares for them? So if a bomb goes off in America or in London, what's wrong with that?" he said.

Qadir is trying to get mosque leaders, many still practicing the tribal traditions of Pakistan, to communicate with the younger generation. But he says it is an uphill battle when radicals like Choudary dominate the debate, getting their faces -- and their message -- out in the public.

"Our scholars ... are not coming out of their holes -- their mosques and their holes -- to engage with these people. They're frightened of that," Qadir said.

#194 Bordm:

Nah, If the Canuks get too uppity, we'll just sent the kids from South Park to deal with you, again. ;-)

Is our 51st state getting restive?

#190 RTLM

Damn straight thoughts and a damn good post.

Thank You.

The Right's Real 'Enemy at Home'
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

In the classic 1956 science-fiction film Forbidden Planet, Doc Ostrow discovers what destroyed the ancient, hyper-advanced civilization of the Krell: "monsters from the id." Having scaled the heights of civilized refinement, the Krell were brought down by the unexpected return of a more primitive and violent side of their psyches.

This might be how conservatives are beginning to feel about The Enemy at Home, a new book by one of their own, Dinesh D'Souza. According to the publisher's description of D'Souza's book:

Whenever Muslims charge that the war on terror is really a war against Islam, Americans hasten to assure them they are wrong. Yet as Dinesh D'Souza argues in this powerful and timely polemic, there really is a war against Islam...by the American cultural left, which for years has been vigorously exporting its domestic war against religion and traditional morality to the rest of the world...
Islamic anti-Americanism is not merely a reaction to US foreign policy but is also rooted in a revulsion against what Muslims perceive to be the atheism and moral depravity of American popular culture...

If the barrel price keeps falling, Canada and corn will be out-of-business again.

According to many prognosticaters from time immemorial, we have until 2012 until it all comes down.

It ain't gonna be pretty between now and then. Learn to grow food. Learn to save seeds. Learn to preserve foods..

And talk to the Divine.

#200 Sprite

According to many prognosticaters from time immemorial, we have until 2012 until it all comes down.

Dude, we're not Mayans.

#189 Scotch

Ugh like cave,
cave warm and dry,
oops, moonbats in cave,
Ugh can't find club,
ahaa, Ugh find club,
no more moonbats in cave,
Ahhh, cave warm and dry,
Ugh like cave!

Time's up here.

Hope rabbidsquirrel counted the last of the sheep hopping the fence.

Night all.

Teens Not Terrorists: Muslim Girls Get a Voice in Muslim Girl Magazine
[Link: ww1.prweb.com...]
[Link: prweb.com...]

American teen Muslim girls are much like teen girls everywhere – so says a recent nationwide study of Muslim girls aged 14-18 years. The study was conducted on behalf of Muslim Girl Magazine , a new bi-monthly glossy magazine launched this month to give 400,000 American Muslim teen girls a lively and uniquely relevant perspective on contemporary living.

Most representations of Muslims in the media are negative.

"Our study showed that these girls go to public school, watch a little too much television, read teen magazines, surf the Internet, use Google, enjoy YouTube, play video games, shop a lot, talk on the telephone and spend time just hanging out," says Faye Kennedy, VP at execuGo Media, the publisher that commissioned the study. "In short, they are pretty much like most other American teenagers." The study also highlighted some likely differences: for example, they get news at Al Jazeera, socialize at IslamiCity and count among their top hobbies, Qur’an study.

The research confirmed Kennedy’s hunch: teen Muslim girls in America would love a lifestyle magazine that does what no other teen girl magazine has done for them – give them a means of enjoying contemporary life within the values they love. Over 90% of the panel, when shown the initial concept, indicated that they liked it, thought it was what they need, would read it and would recommend it to their friends.

Ausma Khan, PhD, writer, human rights lawyer and activist, liked the concept so much that she left a teaching position at Northwestern University to become Editor in Chief. "Most representations of Muslims in the media are negative," she says. "Muslim Girl Magazine challenges those perceptions by telling the stories of Muslim teens who are proud to be American and who contribute to American society in so many positive ways. This is a chance for their voices to be heard. Our editorial mandate is to ‘enlighten, celebrate and inspire’ them."

#202 Bordm

Ugh like cave, woman all mine!

Sleep well;))

#201 Spiny Norman:

That has got to be the most misinterpreted "prophecy" ever. It's not about the end of the world. For the Mayans, it was all about one cycle ending, and another beginning.

#201 spiny

Dude, we're not Mayans.

We don't have to be. The Mayans knew all about us, without even realizing it was us.

#203 scotch:

Hope rabbidsquirrel counted the last of the sheep hopping the fence.

Unfortunately, no. The bastards are sitting next to me, siphoning off sips of my bourbon. They must be unionized.

'Nite scotch!

#186:

Been there, done that. Only with us it is the French.

G'Nite Scotch

Oooh. It's late and rabbidsquirrel has those sheep by the legs now;)))

/gonna be a helluva day tomorrow

//like I am much better*grin*

#209 Johnny 100 Pesos:

Been there, done that. Only with us it is the French.

touché .

Georgia recruits recruiting
W.D. Mohammed Lady Caliphs muslim high school basketball

Sr from Oregon wrote:

Sickening and disturbing sight. Gorgeous black women pretending to be Arabs and Asians. Are we blacks destined to seek masters for our slave minds? Do these girls know that more Black people have been enslaved, oppressed, castrated, raped, poked and beaten in the name of Islam than any other religion? Do they know Muslim Arabs STARTED slavery of Black africans 2000 years before the atlantic slavery?

Do they know that Muhammed was slave owner who banned everything from beer drinking to ham salad sandwiches but ENCOURAGED slavery but accepting as `gifts' teenage Black girls whom he then `took'? have they heard about Juwariyah? Do they know that Muhamed ensnared a young black man; pretended to adopt him got him a wife and then took the boy' wife as his own?

Oh how I cry for ignorance of my people. If they want to worship some cruel God why not go back to our roots and worship AFRICAN gods?

#209 Johnny 100 Pesos

Only with us it is the French.

Hey don’t blame that problem on me! My ancestors migrated from Nova Scotia to Louisiana in the late 1700's, when the British kicked them out. I’ve lived in snow country and the swamp. I’ll take the swamp, I’d rather sweat then shiver any day!

#201 Spiny Norman,

It wasn't just the Mayans I refer to, Spiny.

squarepeg,

I do believe you know about what I speak.

G'night, Lizards Fair.

And if it all comes down...

and you haven't learned how to grow food, save seeds and preserve food, come to my house. I have.

My nic is blue for you.

Mayans ? Damn, but these threads get strange sometimes.

#214 Bordm

I love the Cajuns, Canada's loss was America's gain. And whenever I hear someone calling the french surrender monkeys, I always think, say that to a Cajun, and he'll kick yer derrier.

Of course, folks like you are closer related to the French conquerers of Napoleons time, then to anyone in France today.

This guy has to be off his meds:

Israeli nuke strike against Iran turned back

At least, I hope he is!

Lucky for me I discovered my Inner Peasant years ago!

/now if I could just get the deer to stop walking away with my pepper plants...

#217 Mike C.

I suppose they do in your world. You did say you were an athiest?

I doubt you've saved seeds or any such thing, eh? End times, bah, eh? If you die...you're just dead, eh?

#220 lol,

You always make me laugh... :)

# 221 Sprite

My comment was directed at the fact that Mayans are an unusual topic. If want a fight, go beat yourself up. Or at least find somebody that is interested.

Meanwhile, a response to the AMS decertification issue that blew up the other day (global warming.)

#218 Johnny 100 Pesos

Er, my sir name is very unusual, one of my cousins located some of our relatives still in France. When he returned from “visiting” them, he proclaimed that our ancestors had obviously made the right decision in migrating. I have been known to call the French much worse then surrender monkeys. I'm a Texan! Er, American (of Acadian French ancestry).

What eats bulldozers for lunch ?

A damned big machine, thats what.

#223 Mike,

Where did you get the impression I wanted a fight? I was the one welcoming people to my house, and that included you.

The Mayans and prognosticators over the millenia have all dialed into the year 2012 for the end of what we know to be for this existence on Earth...and the beginning of a new world. But it has to do with God/the Divine, Mike C.

I am spiritual...and I gather from your posts that you are not. Nonetheless, please learn to grow food, save seeds and preserve food...

Or simply come to my house. And if you do, I won't be into fightin' you then, either.

The Saudi scum setting themselves up as "peace" negotiators in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in between rewarding the families of Palestinian suicide killers of Jewish civilians with wagon loads of cash and denying entry of Jews into Saudi Arabia?

You couln't make it up.

Two good posts with lots of links RE the PRC ASAT test over at Defense Tech.

And good morning, dead thread.

Cool, I'm watching "Naughty but Nice" on TCM, it was made in 1939 and Ronald Reagan in the cast.

OY!

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

May God tap you on your shoulder, Mike C. Don't worry, it's a very good thing.

That is my prayer.

Good night, ALL.

Jordan acknowledges Israel lost summer war with Hizbullah and announces it wants to go nuclear, for peaceful purposes HERE... naturally...

Episcopal knife fight.

I don't see how the diocese can lose this one in court.

A Plausible Plan B for Iraq.

Mike C. thanks for the link.

# 235 big L

Which one ?

Krauthammer one was great.

littleoldlady

It sounds like a possibility to me, but then I'm no expert in such matters. If there's something wrong with the basic idea, somebody will have to explain it to me.

Mikey,

I have no clue what will or will not work in Iraq. What I like about the article is it at least puts forth another idea.

#88 Aegious,

Frankly the Bush admin. should have been broadcasting into Iran via the VOA pushing for a coup. Khomeini did a similar thing and he took over without firing a shot. The same thing could happen here. No need for war and the key to winning the war against Islamic fascism really is Iran and not Iraq.

I think the Bush admin. is pushing for a coup in Iran, we have no clue what is going on in that regard because it would blow the operation if it is indeed going on. I agree, I think that is the preferred way. If it can't be done, or it fails we must go in and take care of Iran.

Iraq, Iran, saudi arabia, Syria etc.. etc.. They all need to be dealt with, but Islamic fascism is huge. I don't think there is one country that needs to be hit to solve the problem because there are too many countries/terrorist groups out there.
Regardless, I am glad Saddam is gone. At least we don't have to deal with him and have him as a threat right now on top of Dinner jacket.

Maybe the reason why we won't go after 'The jacket", and may wait until a nuke is set off, is because Bush is hogtied now by the libs thanks to the conservatives who wanted to 'show the GOP a lesson' and not vote. All the libs could do in the past is filibuster, now they will rule and the GOP will not filibuster. They will allow the libs to turn our country into a socialist country.

Oh yeh, and I don't know which is worse, Socialism, communism or Islamofascism. Either way you look at it, all 3 of those are a real possibility for the U.S. when the libs seal their victory with Barrack obamma yo'mamma in 2008.

A Fox News poll indicates: One-third of Dems apparently wish for the failure of an American military mission against al Qaeda, radical Islamist militias, and death squads, and for the slaughter in Baghdad to continue unabated. 15 percent of Dems aren't sure whether that's what they want. Via Powerline.

Muslims outraged over 24

Muslims, where is your outrage over the arabs who started this war by killing Americans during the Clinton years? Why aren't you mad at them for giving you a bad reputation? Where is your outrage by some of these mosques that have been uncovered and how they speak of Christians and Jews? Because of that, we DO HAVE A FEAR of Muslims.. Sorry, but we don't know people's hearts and yes we will always have that doubt in the backs of our minds when we see arabs or muslims. I admit I do. I don't like even thinking that way about Muslims, and I am mad that these terrorists have caused me to take a double take when I see a Muslim somewhere. But it isn't because of 24! It is because of the Isalmofascits who have ruined it for you and for me!

Windybon:

Now that is sobering, but not shocking.

OT - Christian Amanpour is doing a two-parter on CNN called The War Within Saturday and Sunday night. The program examines Muslim extremism in Britain.

Maybe the tide is turning, and the mainstream news finally gets it. Within the last couple months Glenn Beck, Fox, the BBC, and now CNN proper have all aired shows dedicated to showing Muslim extremism. I'm most interested in watching to see if they interview "moderate" Muslims, and what these moderates have to say about the extremists. Tivo...set.

Wow, lots of angst here... over the reality of reality. Face it folks, you (as an American) are not independent of other nations' influence.

The US is a debtor nation with an incredible amount of IOU's held elsewhere... those "elsewhere"s all needing Saudi oil as much or more so than the US.

Furthermore, any talk of independence from Mid-east oil (at least in the near term) is just plain fantasy.

Welcome to the real world. There is a sign over the Statue of Liberty (perhaps you missed it.) It reads: "Welcome to the US, home of the world's best military, for hire, inquire within."

"Welcome to the US, home of the world's best military, most greedy politicians for hire, inquire within."

Fixed that for ya.

The prospect of "Star Wars" between China and the West loomed last night after Beijing used a ballistic missile to destroy a satellite in space. Chinese rocket blows up Weather satellite 4 foot wide...
It suggests that the Chinese have developed a major new capability that underscores the communist regime's desire to use its military might as well as burgeoning economic power to expand its influence.

And this:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sought to create a special committee Thursday in an effort to jump-start long-delayed government efforts to deal with global warming and produce a bill by Independence Day.

Hell,
Let the Chinese knock out our Satellites, and we won't have to worry about seeing the global warming weather patterns...

I feel so much safer with her in power..

Good morning, Lizards.

#249 ibmkeyboard

That makes me furious.

First others tie our military's hands behind their backs; now they want to do the same to our economy.

# 249 ibm

Check out the two top threads at Defense Tech.

China is another reason we can't afford to have these defeatest libs in power.

I agree the world has watched how we have reacted to 9/11. They feared at first.. We were strong.. Now that the libs and the MSM have weakened us with their endless anti-war, anti-Bush rhetoric our enemies who have wanted to be the superpower are emboldened. China is one of them and believe me they will do anything, work with anyone to accomplish their goals. Russia, syria, N.Korea and Iran are in cohoots. I wonder if China may be in on something as well. Who knows. The point is that we are seen as VERY WEAK now and that is why I could see the mushroom cloud hitting sooner than later. I keep hoping not, but with the libs at the helm and if Obamma wins we are in trouble.

ibmkeyboard,

EXCELLENT points.

The Saudis are our friends. Really.

ibmkeyboard,
Oh yes and the libs have all the answers with make believe issues like global warming, since we caused it. That would be an easy one to fix, blame us and get rid of SUV's.. Yet they dont' have any answers to China, or Terrorism or anything of substance.
The libs solution is to share our power with China for crying out loud! They don't think it is 'fair' that we are a superpower.. ANd we put them in charge?

Mike and Revka and good morning lizards from the Global warmed Piedmont of NC Ice palace...
Mike

China has shown it can destroy a satellite in orbit. What could the U.S. do to stop Beijing, if it decided to attack an American orbiter next? Short answer: nothing.
it takes about 20 minutes to fire a ballistic missile into space, and have its "kill vehicle" strike a satellite at hypersonic speed -- over 15,000 miles per hour -- in low-earth orbit. That's far too quick for anything in the American arsenal to respond, in time. There's "no possibility of shielding" a relatively-fragile satellite against such a strike.

Mike I havent read all the info..But it mentions possible Laser
defense..But we should use that monies to stop Global warm...shit...

If the damn Chinese blow up my Dish Network I will kick some Chinese Ass...yo

House of Bush is owned by House of Saud? LGF is agreeing with Michael Moore's premise in F911.

Oh, and thanks to Mr. Bill Clinton for giving the funking Chinese this funking technology..

Was Bill a Democrat?

RIP Art Buchwald. His farewell column is in the dead tree media, I haven't found it online yet.

For some reason my mind keeps turning to food. I know I have not eaten all the eclairs I always wanted. In recent months, I have found it hard to go past the Cheesecake Factory without at least having one profiterole and a banana split.

For my money, his annual Thanksgiving column (with Kilometres Deboutish) is one of top ten pieces of American humor writing.

# 260 JiV

I grew up reading his stuff, and think I even still have a few of his books around here somewhere.

TEHRAN, Jan. 18 — Iran’s outspoken president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, appears to be under pressure from the highest authorities in Iran to end his involvement in its nuclear program, a sign that his political capital is declining as his country comes under increasing international pressure.

Just one month after the United Nations Security Council imposed sanctions on Iran to curb its nuclear program, two hard-line newspapers, including one owned by the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, called on the president to stay out of all matters nuclear...

New York Times
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad does appear to have other matters at hand.

# 257 ibm

If the damn Chinese blow up my Dish Network I will kick some Chinese Ass...yo

Arr your channels are berong to us.

#36 venividivici

Isn't this what Mark Steyn's been on about in his columns, in articles like this [Link: www.suntimes.com...] and this [Link: www.suntimes.com...] ? 39% of Saudi Arabia's population is 15 or under, two thirds of Iran's population was born in 1979 or later, whilst the median age in the UK is 46, and expected to rise to 52 in the next 20 years - so half the population by 2027 (essentially the non-Muslim population) will be 52 or over. Its the same for other Western countries, so how can Dad's Army be expected to stand up to young virile Muslims - many of which already live here.

Hear, Hear,
Art Buchwald...RIP

His tennis game was legendary..LO

BabbaZee alert:
Keffiyeh-gate: Was Matt Lauer Wearing a 'Palestinian Support Scarf' this Morning?
Posted by Mark Finkelstein on December 9, 2005 - 09:12.

Call it 'Keffiyeh-gate.'

Was Matt Lauer wearing a Palestinian support scarf this morning?

Alright, I can already hear some folks out there chuckling at the notion.

But before you dismiss this as the product of the over-active mind of an MSM-bias hunter, consider:

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

Correction to #264

The other link should have been:

[Link: www.opinionjournal.com...]

#266 ec marm
I need a bigger picture - could be just an innocent hounds tooth check.

ec marm - you suk, look at the date of that earlier post, idjit
Jan. 19, 2007 4:15 | Updated Jan. 19, 2007 4:18
US chain pulls 'anti-war' keffiyehs
By MICHAL LANDO, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT
NEW YORK

Urban Outfitters, a popular American clothing store, on Thursday halted sales of a range of keffiyehs, the traditional Arab headdress, which it had been marketing this month as fashionable "anti-war woven scarves." A manager at an Urban Outfitters on 6th Avenue in New York City close to the West Village, who wished to remain anonymous, said the item had been the "number one selling scarf."

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Mike C.
LOL

Dear,
We had 2000 channels last night and now the only funking thing I can get is CBS...Dan Rather Awards re-runs..

ibm

2000 channels, and nothing on, I'm sure.

#269 ec marm
no one at UO sent me a reply, LOL...