looks effective

I want one

Darn! You beat me to it, RTLM!

about darn time
but thanks, Israel!

God Bless Israel, and God Bless the United States Marine Corps.

*slurp*

Anyone have specs on this?

Out of Rochester, MN.

Mayo Researcher under investigation

Sreekumar Raghavakaimal, 46, 311 19th St. S.W., is under investigation for his purchase of potassium cyanide, a toxic chemical.

Link

Is it a hybrid?
We must reduce our carbon footprints.

Is it eco-friendly? We can't protect the troops at the expense of Mother Earth and Father Gore.

...as part of its ad compaign should include..."encased in each round of ammunition is a drop of pigs blood"...no 72 rasins for you ahmed...

Did someone call me?
That is a coool Jooo mooobile.

Do the vehicles use more fuel than Al Gore's house?

To Israel.

Hate to have to change the tires on that bad boy.

Now with rear fold-down seats to store extra dead jihadis.

Is there anywhere in the Muslim world that one percent of Israel's technological capabilities?

I thought so.

I rest my case your honor.

Why thank you Israel.

this is really gonna make the Leftist/Marxist/Kossists heads 'splode.

The secret to the run-flat tires is a week-old bagel inside each one.

Could I blow the latte-slurping, SUV-driving soccer moms off the freeway with this? Would it make them fear tail-gating me at 65 m.p.h.? Could I blow their shit out of the water instead of flipping them the bird?

Do they come with carbon credits?

So now everyone will hate Israel for supporting the American entity?

#17 Robert Schwartz
No relation to the infamous DavidJSchwartz?

Is someone making popcorn or is that the sound of liberal and their jihadi friends' heads exploding?

Thank you Isreal. I only hope that the administration that is busily negotiating your demise remembers just who is our friend in the Middle East.

Leave The Club at home.

CAIR is gonna love this for sure.

hmm...how will they spin it?

"Israeli machines being used to kill INNOCENT Iraqi civilians"

There are reasons civilians cannot get these things.

As a non-Jooo, but big time Jew lover - Israel ROCKS.
No greater friend anywhere in the world.
Dang, I'm going to have to start studying another language - Hebrew:) Any suggestions where to start?

Friends are great. Hope we acknowledge this publicly.

Can we paint a Star of David on the door, just to drive the islamists crazy crazier?

way cool our cops could use some of these

Amen #5.

Confuzed, you are a Hamisch.
(compliment in Yiddish Slang)

I think we'll start seeing these in quantity in about 4 months. The Humvees are simply not heavy enough. Here's another model. It's coyote ugly

Fire up those assembly lines !

24 carbon footprint

As a semi-expert on the shitty Schwartz, I don't think so at all.

#31 rabidsquirrel

Can we paint a Star of David on the door, just to drive the islamists crazy crazier?

Nah, it would cause heads to 'splode at the State Dept, which would have far worse consequences.

=^0

Thank you Israel- an ally in word and in action.

Semper Fi USMC!

Spiffy ride, I agree. But am I the only one (or maybe just the most recent one) to notice THIS?

The London daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat

The LONDON daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat?
The London DAILY Al-Sharq Al-Awsat?
The London daily AL-SHARQ AL-AWSAT?

So is that Arabic for "Guardian" or what?

I'd rather have one of those than a Hummer.

I want one too.

Thank you Israel. To hell with the enemies of freedom.

16 JWF

LOLOLOLOLOL!

That's sick. (I like that in a person.)

I am actually surprised (pleasantly) that the US military would use such a highly visible Israeli product in Iraq. I keep waiting for the 'clarification'.

Isn't that straight outta Stripes?

#37 Spiny Norman:

#31 rabidsquirrel

Can we paint a Star of David on the door, just to drive the islamists crazy crazier?

Nah, it would cause heads to 'splode at the State Dept, which would have far worse consequences.

I fail to see the downside. Sounds like an effective way to clean house at Foggy Bottom.

Does it come in red and have a cup holder?

#6 Noam Sayin'

Anyone have specs on this?

Golan Wheeled Armored Vehicle

/not particularly detailed though

I just went to Digg and all positive comments about this story is dugg under. Sheesh.

#21 MandyManners

Could I blow the latte-slurping, SUV-driving soccer moms off the freeway with this? Would it make them fear tail-gating me at 65 m.p.h.? Could I blow their shit out of the water instead of flipping them the bird?

Another perk would be finishing your left-hand turn with confidence as someone coming at you tries to "make the light".

It's a Jerusalem Cruiser!
/Semper Fi

I hear the mounted cannon can fire off 70 smokin' virgins in under 3 seconds!

Why can't the Army have em too? I'd rather my son be in one of these.

I LIKE! At least for the sunday drives 'round town.

We'll have to wait and see if the US Military actually takes delivery of these vehicles since we haven't done any (reported) testing of the vehicles and would not be all that smart if we just tossed our brave into uncharted sandcruisers...I'm just sayin.

Is this the Israeli military that was defeated by Hezbollah last summer? the trucks sure didn't help them. moreover, i assume the Israelis are getting paid for these vehicles. unless i'm wrong, there is no need for thanks

#21 MandyManners

Could I blow the latte-slurping, SUV-driving soccer moms

See? You CAN take things out of context like they do with audio drops on the radio! ! !

#49 solomonpanting

Nice idea but, blowing someone off the road is different than transgressing the right of way.

Good equipment and good men can provide a leader with what he needs to remedy problems. However, our "leaders", in the U.S.A., don't appear to have what it takes to deal with tough problems.

You guys and your phony pro-Israel stance. Just goes to prove you are all really anti-semites.

or is that anti-semantic.

I don't know anymore.

#55 Durendal

moreover, i assume the Israelis are getting paid for these vehicles. unless i'm wrong, there is no need for thanks

Yeah, I never offer thanks to anyone after paying them for a job well done, either.

56 Sponge

Oh, me. Oh, my. You're lucky I wasn't sucking down some hot tea, dude. I'd've cussed you but good for that spew.

ROFLMAO!

OT,

How weak is this?

The empty head Couric was hammered in the comments (as noted here) and now they just happened to disappear.

We're supposed to believe a blog on cbs.com cannot handle 170 comments?

#55 Durendal:

Is this the Israeli military that was defeated by Hezbollah last summer? the trucks sure didn't help them. moreover, i assume the Israelis are getting paid for these vehicles. unless i'm wrong, there is no need for thanks

See the link in post #47. It evidently wasn't used in Lebanon.

#55 Durendal

i assume the Israelis are getting paid for these vehicles. unless i'm wrong, there is no need for thanks

I would hate to be your waitress.

How many Tiger Cubs will that thing carry?

#55 Durendal

Is this the Israeli military that was defeated by Hezbollah last summer?

Um, just how was Israel defeated? Did I miss the part where Hezbollah sacked Jerusalem or something?

/last I checked, Hezbollah was still clearing rubble where their infrastructure used to be

Durendal,

The israeli military wasn't defeated by Hezbollah. The Israeli Politicos were, and Rice helped.

Rice, at one time, was a leading contender for me as a presidenntial candidate. After how she is handling things at the state department, letting people speak out on behalf of the islamists in somalia for instance, and other state department fiascos, she has shown she can't be president, if for the reason she would throw Israel to the curb.

The Israeli Military, if allowed (just like the US Military) would never suffer a defeat. Instead the defeat is at home, by allowing the media and the rest of the world dictate who won, etc.

61 MandyManners 2/28/2007 07:18PM PST

56 Sponge

Oh, me. Oh, my. You're lucky I wasn't sucking down some hot tea, dude. I'd've cussed you but good for that spew.

ROFLMAO!

Thanks because I FORGOT to leave the /ducks and runs tag at the end of that one...

64 mama winger

ZING!

#55

Is this the Israeli military that was defeated by Hezbollah last summer? the trucks sure didn't help them.

Dumb leadership trumps good equipment.

#39 prosper

So is that Arabic for "Guardian" or what?

Arabic for "Der Sturmer"?

Hmmm, what does Google/Yahoo/AskJeeves say?

Maybe not. It seems to be a "liberal" (i.e. anti-Wahhabist) Arabic paper , but not everyone is convinced:

I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS! Al Sharq Al Awsat fff… fff… fff… fakes its liberalism? So says Mona al Tahawy, who lost her column as house liberal there:

The trouble with Asharq al-Awsat, beyond its disturbing acquiescence to Arab regimes, is that it claimed a liberalism that was patently false.

Before my ban, Asharq al-Awsat launched a Web site in English. Designed to show Western readers how liberal it was, the site suffered from Yasser Arafat syndrome. Just as the late Palestinian leader’s statements in Arabic and in English were sometimes contradictory, the newspaper in Arabic would abide by the red lines that govern criticism of Arab leaders while in English it ran roughshod over those very same lines.

A column I wrote tearing into the Egyptian regime for allowing its security forces to beat peaceful protesters and to sexually assault female journalists and demonstrators was spiked from the Arabic newspaper and Web site but appeared in its entirety on the English Web site.

Every journalist working in the Middle East has had to pull punches, no matter who they work for — Arab papers, American papers, British papers. When it’s not the Saudi royal family, it’s a Hariri or an Emad Eddin Adib or a Rupert Murdoch or a Conrad Black, or indeed a Sulzberger. Of course with the Saudis it’s chronic and non-negotiable. But hey, come on Mona Al Tahawy, they gave you a place to start and now I’m sure you’ll do fine in the IHT and elsewhere. I look forward to reading your devastating columns on Saudi Arabia, perhaps?

One good question in the column though: how do your reach Arabs with a liberal message (if you are a liberal columnist/thinker/broadcaster etc.) when the press has so many red lines? Since these regimes are not changing their ways anytime soon, I suspect the answer will be partly TV (as Al Jazeera has already done) and, for a smaller but quickly growing audience, the internet, which is capable of being much more transgressive than TV.

So they're the ones own "our side".

Maybe.

Ok, how many g/km of CO₂ does that thing put out? Will it meet Kyoto?

56 Sponge

Oh, me. Oh, my. You're lucky I wasn't sucking down some hot

AND, you keep leaving the DOOR WIDE OPEN! ! !

8^P

Whatever the men & women can get over there to help them & further protect them is good stuff

...and I want two of those for myself!

#72 Earth2moonbat
Damn, we forgot about the carbon footprint. Maybe ManBearPig could loan us some carbon credits.

#21 MandyManners

Could I blow the latte-slurping, SUV-driving soccer moms off the freeway with this? Would it make them fear tail-gating me at 65 m.p.h.? Could I blow their shit out of the water instead of flipping them the bird?

Mandy, we Yanks and Brits have far more in common than a shared history. You wouldn't believe how much what you've said there resonates :)

Seriously... These Golan vehicles. I don't suppose our British lads could have a few of them to replace just about everything our idiot government gave them to ride in, seeing as anything bigger than a firecracker is enough to completely fuck the lads riding in them?

Tony?... Tony?... Anybody there?.

Do we have a new llort? After getting that Nazi banned from digg, I guess we should be expecting a few here.

I smell some 'Schwartz' and not the good kind.

# 17

no, but the Beeb wrote a big article 3 days ago how Islamic art patterns were mathematically wayyy ahead of their time. Centuries! I wonder how long they cooked that one? And it's not even a remote possibility, that those patterns were done based on math ...

#62

I made comments to this video and I am sure several other people did, CBS never posted them.

Thank you, Israel, and God bless.

Totally co-o-o-l. I dare these "I'm the only one on this country road so I can hog both sides of the double yellow line" ego-maniac New York-transplants-in-CT to stray into my side of the road when I'm driving one of these!

Looks like we got two in one thread.

From Killian's link:

The 15 ton vehicle is designed to carry 10 fully equipped troops, providing effective protection from small arms, mines and IEDs, as well as RPG threats.

I can picture it, now...

"Dirka, dirka. RPG, dirka!"

*PHISSSsss.*

*poof*

"Oh, shit. We just pissed them off with that one."

66 Killian Bundy and 64 mama winger

How the fuck did I miss out on that?!

#55 Durendal

Who told you that Israel was defeated? CNN? MSNBC? Matt Lauer? Nassrallah?

#79,

Even so. The architecture seen in use today throughout the islamic world is pretty much a ripoff of Byzantine architecture. Nothing new.

#45 rabidsquirrel

I fail to see the downside. Sounds like an effective way to clean house at Foggy Bottom.

Good point. Sadly, the Arabists at State have friends in high places and seem to be able to turn the most ardent Israel supporter into a brain-dead puppet overnight.

They are the Borg. There's no other explanation. . .

_{Or . . . they could also have "files" that would've made J Edgar Hoover jealous.}

68 Sponge

I prefer the *rad* but, I don't know if others here have heard of it.

#87 MandyManners 2/28/2007 07:26PM PST

68 Sponge

I prefer the *rad* but, I don't know if others here have heard of it.

And to top it off, you STOLE my 69 post...hehehehehe.

#84 Mandy

Nothing much gets past you. dear. :)

73 Sponge

I've just gotta ask the question. Why wasn't this type of vehicle made available to our troops a long time ago, through the efforts of the US DOD? We had to wait for our great friends the Israelis to help out? It just doesn't add up, in the sense that the problem regarding IED-vulnerable vehicles should have been handled a long time ago, IMHO. In any event, I'd like to second and third our collective thanks to Israel for this gesture.

Oof. I hope Rafael makes better transports than websites. 60 trucks for a cool $37,000,000. Now the marines only need 3940 more ;)

#55 Durendal
WTF? Clarify yourself please.

don't feed the anti semitic troll. better to run them over

#13 tfk

I second that. Teddy had the Chamber of Commerce, immigration lawyers, and everybody else who makes a buck off these lawbreakers write the legislation.

Are his Daddy's rum-runner buddies from Prohibition days still buying votes? What in tarnation keeps this worthless pile of cholesterol and booze in office?

Amnesty for 20 million+ illegal aliens means not only Mexican murderers and dope dealers get a free pass - so do islamofascist terrorists, their financiers and supporters.

This isn't anything - raphael systems coming next. Anytime a bomb comes on the next gen, it disintegrates the matter, like a shield. Absolutely amazing, got a link from Israel on this, will try and grab it. Back in a few.

# 65

"The 15 ton vehicle is designed to carry 10 fully equipped troops, providing effective protection from small arms, mines and IEDs, as well as RPG threats."

I'd say, that's about 30 Tiger Cubs with snack.

#91 Cartman

In any event, I'd like to second and third our collective thanks to Israel for this gesture.

Make that four. God bless and keep Israel.

Bad. Ass.

/Black Market for these?
//20 Million?

71 Spiny Norman

Thanks for educatin' me there. It just startled me a bit to see an Arabic-language paper based in London. I guess it shouldn't have, but I thought "Londonistan" was just a joke.

Egad. What happened? Pot shipment busted?

76 Wishbone

Isn't Tony out by the end of May?

I've just gotta ask the question. Why wasn't this type of vehicle made available to our troops a long time ago, through the efforts of the US DOD?

Methinks, honestly, that the Humvee w/ extra armor outperforms this vehicle in a LOT of ways, not mentioning the fact that it probably weighs in lighter. BUT, I don't know the specs of both, so I'm just speculating.

#34 Carbon footprint. Thank you.
Can I refer to myself as that without causing trouble (offending any Jews or Israelis)?
Example - I'm Hamisch and proud. Sounds like a good t-shirt idea.

Anything and everything I can do, I do, to help Jews and Israel.
I'm still scarred from occasional nightmares after having visited the concentration camp (dachau) outside Munich in the 80s.

The picture of the mother holding a child in arms while holding hands of a child (2) going to gas chamber strengthens me to no end with the will to fight evil.

Nazis and radical mos share many same philosophies, including idols.

I also buy Israeli military stuff and wear it around town just to p*ss off liberals. I buy stuff here.

#79 mainah

no, but the Beeb wrote a big article 3 days ago how Islamic art patterns were mathematically wayyy ahead of their time. Centuries! I wonder how long they cooked that one? And it's not even a remote possibility, that those patterns were done based on math ...

They didn't need to be: they were done like that because it looks good... That's all! There's no need to overlay modernist interpretation on medieval art. Sheesh. How self-indulgent can you get? What kind of research grant are they angling for?

97 mainah

But, some of the Tiger Cubs are still in booster seats.

#86 Spiny Norman:

They are the Borg. There's no other explanation. . .

You must assimilate...and give the Palestinians a state.

America (and Israel), F*** Yeah!

#106 Mandy

Be glad he's still in the Tiger Cub stage. Wait till it's an entire Pee- You Pee-Wee football team.

looks like an unbreakable matzoh. i love it.

Dirka, Dirka, Dirka...Muhammed Jihad!

Surprise, COCK BAGS!

(M2 BMG locked on)
CHUHNK CHUHNK CHUHNK CHUHNK CHUHNK CHUHNK CUHNK

But Charles, the Israelis turned Gaza into a prison for muslims.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Irish bishops: Israel has turned Gaza Strip into a 'large prison'

By The Associated Press

A group of Irish Roman Catholic bishops on Tuesday called into question Ireland's commercial ties with Israel, saying Israel has made the Gaza Strip "little more than a large prison" for Palestinians.

"Where there is evidence of systematic abuse of human rights on a large scale, as in the Occupied Territories, there are questions that must be asked concerning the appropriateness of maintaining close business, cultural and commercial links with Israel," said auxiliary Bishop of Dublin Raymond Field.

I thought Gaza wasn't "occupied" any more?

Comments #55 and #59 stink. I think I smell something.

#85 Earthwirm

The architecture seen in use today throughout the islamic world is pretty much a ripoff of Byzantine architecture. Nothing new.

As you know, it's not just the architecture that Islam claims as its own. It's the whole human experience.

Folks, don't say that Islam is not represented in Star Trek. THE BORG IS ISLAM. IT DESTROYS ALL FOR ASSIMILATION. IT HAS NO CREATIVE POWER.

ISLAM IS THE BORG.

#95 ibu guru

Amnesty for 20 million+ illegal aliens

Watch it. You may get in trouble for such strong language.

Bill would mandate nicer term for illegals

It looks like a quality fighting vehicle but give me an EM50 Urban Assault Vehicle and I'll take Tehran.

America (and Israel), F*** Yeah!

Only til Jan '09, I'm afraid.

#104
Hamisch — Down to earth. A real person.
Rhymes with "sammich" I think.
: )

88 Sponge

I'm sorry. Is that a lucky number?

#91 Cartman

I've just gotta ask the question. Why wasn't this type of vehicle made available to our troops a long time ago, through the efforts of the US DOD?

Buffalo Armored Vehicle

Cougar Mine Protected Armored Patrol Vehicle

/made in the USA and already being deployed

Can I get in line to own one of those? It's sweet. I could totally run over Bay Area Hippies with that bad boy. Awesome, man, awesome.

#113 snakespit
Yep, read my 78 and 82.
Check the "born on dates".

#119 MandyManners 2/28/2007 07:39PM PST

88 Sponge

I'm sorry. Is that a lucky number?

Well, that depends on the wife's mood, I guess...

#113 snakespit

I think I smell something.

It could be my tuna sandwich.

89 mama winger

So much flies past me that I am often left utterly dumb-founded. I just sometimes look good.

How are you doing tonight?

#122 carbon footprint 2/28/2007 07:41PM PST

#113 snakespit
Yep, read my 78 and 82.
Check the "born on dates".

I chose to ignore and glossed over. Still numb from the schwartzing of last week.

Actually Cuba is also making very advanced vehicles too:

Why didn't these vehicles come from our own DOD? Well, Trent Lott needed his railroad to nowhere, Ted Stevens and Rep. Young needed their bridge to nowhere, and heavens knows New Orleans needs billions more federal dollars to maintain its status as murderous snakepit.

#7

Hindu name, but who knows...

P.S. to anyone reading my previous comment, please do not take that to mean that I intend upon killing anyone. It's a joke. Oh, it's a bad joke, but it's a joke.

By the by, I still want one of those armored vehicles. They look really cool. And for me, completely pointless. Much like a soccer Mom driving a Hummer.

Mmmm, tuna...

#126 Sponge
Me too.
Off to the new thread.

127 ted 2/28/2007 07:42PM PST

Actually Cuba is also making very advanced vehicles too:

[Link: [Link: www.youtube.com...]...]

HA! Watch out Boyscouts...your soap box derby competition is HERE! !

hehehehehe.

125 mandy manners. Remember our emails last week? My husband's group will get that equipment I was upset about some time this winter. Hey, 10 years is a long time, but better late than never, right?

/actually 20 years behind the civilian fleet, but hey, it is the government.

When does GM start selling the civilian version?

Looks like something a moonbat might drive.

#102 MandyManners

He's supposed to be. As each day goes by though, he's being undermined more and more by his own cabinet. They're far from happy that he did the right thing with standing with the US, inasmuch as he's still a socialist twit beyond that. They really got their knickers in a twist when it was revealed that Blair was asking for the UK to base some of your future "Son of Star Wars" anti-ballistic defense systems on British soil. They're already revolting over the upgrading of our Trident systems.

I swear, if this lot remain in power, they'll get us all bloody killed.

Already had the Buffalo for a couple of years,
[Link: www.defendamerica.mil...]

And if you want to get really wierod, thirty years ago
[Link: www.15thengineer.50megs.com...]
just for clearing miles of jungle and city blocks...

Seriously, there is only so much boiler plate one can bolt onto to a jeep. The mission calls for a hell of a lot less than Abrams, and a bit less than the Bradleys. There is a gap to be filled.

At least the US Marines are doing the right thing. Sadly, Israel has too much experience in weaponry..but that experience has given the world so much...yet the US refused to order the TROPHY , and instead, gave Raytheon the contract. Raytheon is light years behind, and even though the TROPHY is not 100 % perfect, it is the best out there, and it was needed for so long. Now? I wonder if Raytheon will have its' version ready in this decade.

If NBC of all the MSM did this special report? Reading it can raise B/P.

#120 Killian

Those vehicles are sweet, but I'm willing to bet they are few and far between, and are used to transport just a fraction of our troops on recon or S&D missions. I may be wrong. Won't be the first time.

Did someone say manbearpig?

#125 Mandy

How are you doing tonight?

One of the worst days of my life. My daughter fell and broke her leg on the ice this morning, and I found her laying in a snowdrift.

When I finally got her to the hospital, the medicine they gave her for pain nearly stopped her heart and we almost lost her there for a minute.

She's home with me now and resting Thank God. What a craphole of a day.

86 Spiny Norman & 107 rabidsquirrel & 114 MandyManners

GMTA for sure.

Talking about homegrown vehicles...
Can't find any details if these are being used by Aussie forces OS but I have had the privilege of driving the fire truck version of these around Bendigo, back in my CFA (Country Fire Authority) days.
Awesome machine with the water tank having a chamber inside it so if the truck was on fire, you could retreat into the chamber until the front went over.
Pitty the government said they were too safe and didn't roll them out...

This is moving quicker than a hooker at a Southern Baptist picnic.

123 Sponge

Nevermind. I took the time to think.

*furiously blushing*

SAY NO MORE, DAMMIT.

PLEASE?

The Golan is very stylish. Form and function.
We're buying 60 of them.

Mama Winger -
Wow, sorry. Thank goodness she's OK. Rest assured, you'll be getting prayers (whether you want them or not) from around the world.

#148 Confuzed

Thank goodness she's OK.

Yes - I am so grateful she didn't lose consciousness and had her cell phone with her when she fell. She was able to call me (screaming) and I drove as fast as I could and found her in the snow.

Now her husband gets the great joy of doing all the household chores for the next 8 weeks! :)

142 mama winger

Oh, my goodness. I don't know what to say. I'll keep ya'll in my prayers and thoughts.

Please, make sure that you take care of yourself.

Goodness, gracious, sake's alive.

(((mama winger)))

#150 Mandy

I am tempted to throw 2007 under the bus and skip right ahead to 2008. :)

Oh well,,,

she's going to be OK - I can't ask for more.

Thanks.

#67 Earthwirm

The israeli military wasn't defeated by Hezbollah. The Israeli Politicos were, and Rice helped.

i'm not sure if i acknowledge the difference. sorry if i don't get excited when the israeli cavalry shows up when they can't even keep their own home in order.

139 NY Nana Infuriating, isn't it? I've tried to get my husband to leave the military for many years because of this crap. Lots of the top generals are going to retire and move into cushy jobs with Ratheon, Northrup Grumman, etc.

It's a bit analogous to the state department folks retiring and going to work for Saudi Arabia. It's dirty, dirty, dirty...I honestly had high hopes for a GOP government. It was screamingly obvious during the Clinton admin that our military wouldn't get anything. That's one reason I'm so upset at the GOP now. I knew the donkeys were bastards, but finding out the GOP are only slightly better has been very upsetting.

Remember this article any time you hear some news guy interviewing some retired general about how awful Rumsfeld's pentagon was.

Sixteen months ago, commanders in Iraq began asking the Pentagon for a new system to counter RPGs and other anti-tank weapons.

Last year, a special Pentagon unit thought it found a solution in Israel — a high-tech system that shoots RPGs out of the sky. But in a five-month exclusive investigation, NBC News has learned from Pentagon sources that that help for U.S. troops is now in serious jeopardy.

Created in 2001 by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, OFT acts as an internal “think tank” for the Pentagon and is supposed to take a more entrepreneurial — and thereby less bureaucratic — approach to weapons procurement and other defense issues, and to get help to troops in the field more quickly. OFT officials subjected Trophy to 30 tests and found that it is “more than 98 percent” effective at killing RPGs.

That plan immediately ran into a roadblock: Strong opposition from the U.S. Army. Why? Pentagon sources tell NBC News that the Army brass considers the Israeli system a threat to an Army program to develop an RPG defense system from scratch.

The $70 million contract for that program had been awarded to an Army favorite, Raytheon.

Trophy’s supporters inside the Pentagon are more blunt. As one senior official told NBC News, “This debate has nothing, zero, to do with capability or timeliness. It’s about money and politics. You’ve got a gigantic program [FCS] and contractors with intertwined interests. Trophy was one of the most successful systems we’ve tested, and yet the Army has ensured that it won’t be part of FCS and is now trying to prevent it from being included on the Strykers” that OFT planned to send to Iraq.

For families of soldiers like Denny Miller, any delay in getting help to the troops is unthinkable.

As Miller’s mother, Kathy, put it, “Do they have children over there? Do they have husbands or wives over there? They need to sit back and look at it maybe from a different angle. I just think it's ridiculous!”

The Pentagon is now trying to interest the Marine Corps in testing Trophy. But because of Army opposition, there are currently no plans to send the system to Iraq.

More info:

Mayo Clinic Researcher Under Federal Investigation

According to the F.B.I the combination of olive oil and cyanide is mentioned in the Mujaheddin poisons handbook as a way to make cyanide more toxic to touch.

Link

golly, on that happy note I think I'm going to bed

Mama, I'm glad your daughter is OK. Tell her to milk the injury for all it's worth :-)

151 mama winger, my ISP cannot contact others here unless Charles again fixes something.

Please, feel free to e-mail me.

(I've had about 16-18 broken bones.)

Does it come in a convertible?

Looking around a bit it appears that these are initial low rate production units. The military is evaluating several vehicles from different suppliers. This is one the RG-31 (which I think is a South African design) is another. Original contract for 148 of those was April 2005 and I did see a reference to one being damaged in May 2005 in Iraq so it seems we have had limited numbers of these types of vehicles in the field for a while.
Here is the list of companies that supplied vehicles for evaluation:
[Link: www.army-guide.com...]

153 funky chicken

'Dems dat got, git.

ALL leadership positions in ALL societies pass onto those who are groomed to accept them.

that thing got a hemi?

Wait- why is LGF reporting this- I thought we were anti-Semitic?

/sarc off

Way to go! Love to see my two fave countries working together like this! Wait- I don't mean to say I don't like Canada (when under Harper), but y'know what I mean!

FUCK! I would love to take that thing down to Fort Worth tomorrow. LOL

Wonder if we can get a civilian version of this thing. Should be nice, spacious and maneuverable. But probably not cheap.
For those interested, manufacturer's brochure is here. And more information is here. Yes, all in English.

#160 campfreddy
Better. Cummins turbodiesel. Very nice.

Thank you Israel!

For those looking at smaller versions, there is also Wolf. Smaller, lighter, faster, but not as armored. Here and here.

This just might cause the libs as Kos/HuffPo/Du to seeth and whine.

The US Army always gets it right eventually. They have just have to try all the wrong ways first.

The US and Israel should have had a mutual defense pact since May 15, 1948. But thank you, Israel, for the aid.

#115 Lively

More obfuscation. Actually the MSM, pro-illegal alien organizations, and PC term illegals "immigrants" already, even tho illegals are here in violation of the law, and many readily admit they came to get money and have no intention to remain. They aren't "immigrants."

I'd rather call a spade a spade.

The Golan is one of about 8 different vehicles that are being used in an evaluation of something called MERP (Mine Explosive Resistant Platform - I think). As another poster mentioned, they need something between the HumVee and the Stryker. Businesses in the US, Israel, Australia and South Africa are involved in the project and supplying vehicles. One of them, GPV, is less than an hour from here in suburban Detroit.

As for the business with the Trophy system, unfortunately there is corruption and inside dealing with military procurement. A local company producing a purpose built light armored vehicle lost out to a company owned by a former marine colonel that sells a glorified ATV that has minimal protection.

Israel, don't show this to Pelosi. She may want one on her own...cause she is 2nd in line you know..to the presidency and must be protected at all costs.

142 mama winger 2/28/2007 07:48PM PST

When I finally got her to the hospital, the medicine they gave her for pain nearly stopped her heart and we almost lost her there for a minute.

So glad things came out alright for her.

BADASS!

I'm sure Neil "no Joo bullets" Abercrumbie D-HI will have to say something about this. I don't know how we can have one Congressman a Medal of Honor recipient who gave an arm for this country, and another who is a raving, wooly-headed hippy scumbag. when will Hawaii wise up and throw that bum out?

#127 ted 2/28/2007 07:42PM PST
Actually Cuba is also making very advanced vehicles too:

Is Iowahawk doing videos now?

Looks like the perfect vehicle to navigate the dangerous fwy's of Los Angeles.

@ Cartman. Gentlemen, this is a brand new vehicle, jointly built with an American company. The USMC just ordered sixty of them...They just arrived...get it? As in brand new. Check this site out.
[Link: www.defense-update.com...]

Yay!
And it's sad that beauracracy keeps our government from producing our vehicles that are stronger than a tin can.
They bought some of those South-African vehicles too. Last I heard they were still "testing" them. As if a country that has a land mine problem doesn't know what they're doing when they make armored vehicles. O.o
Anyway, whatever helps our guys stay safer is good news.

Maybe they have some missile-proof choppers for my man?

#114 MandyManners 2/28/2007 07:38PM PST

#85 Earthwirm

The architecture seen in use today throughout the islamic world is pretty much a ripoff of Byzantine architecture. Nothing new.

As you know, it's not just the architecture that Islam claims as its own. It's the whole human experience.

Folks, don't say that Islam is not represented in Star Trek. THE BORG IS ISLAM. IT DESTROYS ALL FOR ASSIMILATION. IT HAS NO CREATIVE POWER.

ISLAM IS THE BORG.

Actually, forget Star Trek and look to Stargate SG1:

Islam is not the Borg, Islam is the Ori, with their Book of Origin.

Does it come with a carpool lane sticker like the Prius?

Infidel and Zionist? Brilliant!

#172 Highrise 2/28/2007 09:17PM PST

Israel, don't show this to Pelosi. She may want one on her own...cause she is 2nd in line you know..to the presidency and must be protected at all costs.

On hers they could put the reactive armor on the inside >:) hehehehehhee...

Thank you Israel. You are the best.

looks like safety is key, but if it's fear factor then this would make an imperssion

Yes!
So that more soldiers don't suffer such horrific wounds as this Marine did in Iraq. While disfirgured, he lived and he came home to wed his sweetheart.
[Link: archive.reduxpictures.com...]

#15 jammiewearingfool

Now with rear fold-down seats to store extra dead jihadis.

You made me laugh so hard this morning, I almost choked!

#29 confuzed

Yes, there is a great website at [Link: www.learn-hebrew.co.il...]

Good luck!

#142 mama winger

Good golly! I'm so glad that she is okay now and is on the mend. How frightening! Poor thing. Well, I guess on the bright side, the snowdrift she was laying in should have helped keep the swelling down some until you found her and got her to the hospital. Still, not a pleasant experience, to say the least. Sending her a complete refua shlema.

Islam is not only the Borg, its members also comprise the Orcs. They just keep cranking them out, by the thousands, ugly, evil, soul-less mud people programmed to do only one thing -- kill.

#188 American Jewess in Jerusalem
Thank you very much, I'll check that site out.

#188 WOW, THANKS again, that's really a nice site, I already bookmarked it.
That site is sweet, the sound and the text, all organized according to topics. Why can't other languages be designed like this for learners?
I'm going to study and when the Moonbats are about to snap as they're getting destroyed in an argument, I'll give a dose of some Hebrew to rub it in:)

#190

...and there Minarets are like Mordor with the eye of Sauron as the crescent.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The Easterling Army is the modern day Hamas and Hezbollah.

Visit your local HebeVee dealer today!

Thanks Israel, a friend indeed!

will it come with this

[Link: military.discovery.com...]

I'll bet the Jews are behind this.

#55 Durendal 2/28/2007 07:14PM PST

Is this the Israeli military that was defeated by Hezbollah last summer?

Defeated? I think not. Do you get your news from Dail Kos?

The London daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat reports that Israel will supply the U.S. Marines in Iraq with specially equipped armored “Golan” vehicles which are specifically suited for urban warfare and can sustain attacks by RPGs and road mines.

Now that would give our troops too much of an advantage, and would be unfair to the poor terrorists.

It's the Zionist conspiracy in action again.

/leftie

#55 Durendal

FOAD

Our troops in Afghanistan could also use them.

Very cool vehicle.

Thanks, Israel.

John: "They got one big gun. They got a couple-a tanks. They got a hundred Bourishnicoffs running around in Ichiwan outfits."

Russell: "Yah, what do we got?"

John: "We got? What do we got? What are you talking about? We got one heavily armed recreational vehicle, man."

Cool lookin vehicle!

And, we haven't purchased any of these yet...why?

I guess we wouldn't want to offend muslim sensibilities by supporting the zionist economy.

this kind of pisses me off... israel has had this vehicle and JUST NOW we're buying some? what, israle never offered before? we didn't know they had this type of specialized vehicle (doubtful)? where the hell did the disconnect come in, with our closest ally in the ME, when it appears' to me that had we been purchasing these things from day one (when we realized our humvee was inadequate troop protection) we could have not only saved MANY american soldiers' lives but could have waged a more effective urban warfare campaign?!

it also occurs to me how coincidental it is that this deal is now surfacing at a time when the democrats are playing the "troops don't have proper protection" card...

what other military equipment can the US purchase to to improve troop protection?

#200 upstatenyr said: Our troops in Afghanistan could also use them.

Our Canadians in Afghanistan are now using the RG-31 Nyala from South Africa, after we lost guys to IEDs in Iltis (don't ask) and Mercedes G-Wagen. Even with up-armoured G-Wagens, I understand out guys don't go outside the wire in anything less than the LAVs or the Nyala.

[Link: www.sfu.ca...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Truly they are better allies than we are.

Also better than we deserve.